[12:43] How do I change the primary e-mail address associated with my GPG key? [12:45] gpg --edit-key [12:46] use 'uid' to select the one you want as primary, 'primary' to set it as such, then 'save' === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-359-1-78-2.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] Oof, still confused. Muddling through the man page now. [12:51] The deal is I used to have tonyyarusso@earthlink.net as the address, then later added the @ubuntu.com one, and thought it was first. Tried to build a package and got an error that I couldn't sign it, secret key not available. === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] err, meanwhile, which file does pbuilder use for it's apt sources? === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:55] tonyyarusso: nothing cares which ID is primary for signing packages. Are you sure that the plain text form of your name matches? [12:56] /etc/pbuilderrc [12:58] broonie: Not necessarily? [12:58] I'm dealing with key 1C948BF4, if you want to take a look. [12:59] You need to check it matches what's in the changelog entry (and so on) unless you're explicitly supplying the key to sign with. === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.99.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] It does match that, yes [01:03] What happens with "gpg --edit 'Anthony Yarusso '"? [01:04] broonie: The current info is displayed and I'm left with a Command> prompt. [01:04] Says "Secret key is available", btw [01:05] Right, that's what I was trying to check. [01:05] Were you attempting to build with pbuilder and have pbuilder do teh sig by any chance? === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-104-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] Yes. [01:07] Actually, wait. [01:07] Ah. debsign on the built output should work; I've never tried to get pbuilder to do what you want. [01:08] I was _going_ to move on to pbuilder, but actually got the error when running 'sudo dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot' [01:08] Don't use sudo. [01:08] Just run dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot [01:08] a) you shouldn't do the non-root bits of the build as root [01:09] b) running as root ought to make gpg not find your keyring. [01:11] oh, duh [01:12] a) that's what fakeroot is for [01:12] b) clearly my key isn't in root's home directory [01:12] broonie: Mental lapse - I knew that on some level :P [01:12] (ie, I've taken a break from packaging since April, so I'm just now remembering) [01:12] Thanks! [01:13] I still have no idea why pbuilder is downloading from the Canadian mirror though - weird [01:13] Check /etc/pbuilderrc, it says which mirror to use. [01:14] when you change stuff in your pbuilderrc you need to use --override-config (i think) when you next update [01:14] that could be it [01:14] Chances are that I did create it with that mirror [01:15] Can't remember what the default is but with Debian it's the ever helpful ftp.jp.debian.org :P === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-182.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kmos_ [n=gothicx@249-164.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] Gah. Still have problems with no sudo nonsense. [01:37] dpkg-source: building kompozer in kompozer_0.7.10-0ubuntu1.dsc signfile kompozer_0.7.10-0ubuntu1.dsc [01:37] gpg: skipped "Tony Yarusso ": secret key not available [01:37] gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available [01:38] Oh, doh [01:38] that's not the same name as your key [01:38] Cleartext mismatch "Anthony" vs "Tony" === tonyyarusso sighs [01:38] silly people [01:38] you'd think you'd know your own name :) [01:39] is there a way, given a .debdiff, to generate the resulting .dsc and .deb? [01:39] bryce: apart from applying the debdiff with patch, and rebuilding the source & binary packages? [01:39] ajmitch: you'd think :P Problem is, I never go by it, but was told my key needs to be "proper" === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] ajmitch: yeah [01:40] bryce: I think doing the build normally is your only option [01:40] tonyyarusso: -k might make your life easier :) [01:40] ah ok === Frogzoo_ [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-359-1-78-2.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-ed2e7ab506fb2676] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fabo [i=fabo@fon38-2-82-225-46-230.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmm [n=bram@cc400801-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] I can't comment on REVU currently (password=None) but I've done an upload for the boswars package and that should pop up there in the near future. [02:49] Will it still get there if my password isn't working? [02:49] As long as your key is in the revu keyring, yes. [02:49] And, you should also be able to retrieve your password. [02:51] TheMuso: Are you up for reviewing new packages? [02:51] TheMuso: password retrieval returns "None" as password, but my upload has made it: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=42 [02:51] There are a couple that I advocated earlier that I think are in good shape. [02:51] bmm: If you have a comment you want posted, I'll be glad to post it for you. [02:51] ScottK: Just hilight me with the package names, and I'll see if I can get to them later. [02:52] ScottK: no comment on my upload so far ;-) [02:52] Got an issue with another package I want to see if I can address at this point. [02:52] TheMuso: did you see my sound complaint earlier? since you are listed as admin now for the sound stuff and crimsun is in hiding, oh man I had to bug you :D [02:52] nixternal: I am admin of the audio team, but it doesn't mean I am the alsa guy. [02:53] i thought crimsun proposed Hobbsee to take over alsa stuff? :) [02:53] hehe, well then, get to pointing :) [02:53] TheMuso: mustang http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=36 and reverend http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=33 [02:53] superm1: I don't think so. [02:53] ScottK: No need for URLs, just package names is fine. [02:53] TheMuso: OK. Those are there too. [02:53] ScottK, well at least as a joke crimsun had one evening, hence the :) at the end [02:53] ok [02:53] OK === tonyyarusso starts spewing profanity.. [02:54] Maybe nixternal will review and upload them in the meantime. === nixternal joins in with tonyyarusso [02:54] TheMuso: I'm going to sleep now, but if you are going to be up for some time to come and have the time, feel free to review boswars http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=42 [02:54] I can't remember my GPG key passphrase [02:54] Uh oh [02:54] ScottK: sitting in class right now [02:54] Yes, and? [02:54] TheMuso: keep up the good work and thanks for the info. [02:54] Bye [02:55] I can't upload, I don't have intarweb access :) [02:55] Ah. [02:55] You advocate and I'll upload then. [02:56] that was a joke btw, I wouldn't be here talking if I didn't have access now would I :) [02:56] Understand. Just feeling pushing. [02:56] There's no way to recover that is there? [02:56] you know, instructors need to replace "Hello World" with something new [02:56] tonyyarusso: It wouldn't be a very secure system if you could. [02:57] ScottK: exactly [02:57] :( [02:57] I swear, out of the 25+ coding classes I have taken, everyone starts out with Hello World, and no matter the language, it is stupid! [02:57] nixternal: "omghi2u!"? [02:57] haha ya! [02:57] Luckily, I did have the foresight to save what I need to revoke it. [02:57] Yes. That's good. [02:57] s/"Hello World"/"Windows Sucks"/ [02:57] nixternal: Goodbye, cruel world? :) [02:57] that is what I have done for everyone [02:58] damn stickers on the lid of my lappy give me away everytime though [02:58] printf("Welcome to The Foo Bar! May I take your order?"); [02:59] hehe [02:59] I have to admit, this instructor is the first I have seen use "foo" and "bar" in his examples [03:00] Older instructor? Or maybe a true hacker in disguise. [03:01] This is fun. Fix the bug (maybe) run the script, crush the database for a couple a minutes to get the data, discover I didn't fix the bug, rinse, repeat. === tonyyarusso goes into full-bore thinking mode to jog memory [03:05] Someone needs to hit pulseaudio with a "please don't thrash the soundcard when idle" stick. Having it enabled increases my power usage by 10%. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=dax@122.2.246.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] wahoo, it works === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asantoni [n=alb@216.221.76.221] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye!"] === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] anybody know how to get wide screen resolutions in feisty? [04:38] same way you get any other resolutions [04:38] Not very helpful, but I just enabled them in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :) [04:39] heh [04:39] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [04:39] LaserJock: You probably have an intel card or something, right? [04:39] it is an intel card [04:39] i don't type that fast [04:39] and its 800x480 resolution [04:39] right now I get 640x480 [04:40] 800x480? i have only seen that on toshiba laptops [04:40] LaserJock: You may need that 810resolution package, or something. [04:40] LaserJock, does System -> Administration -> Screens and Graphics not do it? === Lure [n=lure@12.10.190.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] 915resolution it is called. [04:40] bryce: On Feisty? [04:41] I think [04:41] RAOF, oh Feisty [04:41] bryce: no, it only gives me 640x480 [04:41] nevermind, yeah for Feisty -i810 + 915resolution is the std approach [04:41] is it a toshiba laptop? [04:41] no [04:42] there is a Feisty backport of the -intel 2.x driver around someplace [04:42] bryce: Incidentally, displayconfig-gtk looks awesome. [04:42] Intel ClassmatePC [04:42] oh [04:42] that might not use the i810 driver [04:43] it's an Intel 915 card === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] RAOF, cool [04:44] RAOF, I just hope it doesn't bork up people's xorg.conf too badly [04:44] bryce: I'll see how it handles nvidia + multiple monitors tonight :) [04:44] :-) [04:44] what's what? [04:45] It's a pity that nvidia decided that the "refresh rate" field was their plaything, thought. [04:45] ok so I just install 915resolution and it then? [04:45] RAOF: disable dynamic twinview [04:45] we should do that by default in restricted-manager, actually [04:45] Amaranth: But I kinda want the ability to plug in monitors and it just work [04:46] Amaranth: Doesn't disabling dynamic twinview break that? [04:46] they should support xrandr :P [04:46] i dunno [04:46] no, you need the -intel 2.x driver to get xrandr support [04:46] I might test tonight. If it still works, +1 to disable by default! [04:47] nvidia is waiting for xrandr 1.3, iirc [04:47] LaserJock: If you have xserver-xorg-video-intel driver installed, you shouldn't need 915resolution. If you have -i810, then yes, 915resolution should help. [04:47] bryce: nvidia supports xrandr, just not 1.2 [04:47] ah [04:47] Amaranth: ???. What's going to change in 1.3? [04:47] something with multiple GPUs or something [04:47] i dunno exactly [04:48] btw, Xorg is going to put their xrandr 1.2 stuff for -ati soonish. I'm hoping we can get a UVF exception for that for Gutsy [04:49] Yay. Leaving only us poor nvidia users without it. [04:49] minghua: any disadvantage to using -intel? [04:49] Oh, and people who have crazy old cards [04:49] gutsy should dump xserver-xorg-video-via in favor of xserver-xorg-video-openchrome [04:50] bryce: you want to pull from git for the ati driver? [04:50] Well, you've got the Xorg maintainer in here, make a pitch :) [04:50] sn9_: for what reasons? [04:50] sn9_, does it break on any older cards though? [04:50] -via doesn't support older cards, anyway [04:50] that's what -savage is for [04:51] Amaranth: no, in talking to them I think they'll put out a release with the xrandr stuff merged into head === ScottK likes my Intel embedded graphics and their open source drivers. === RAOF is envious of ScottK, right up to the point he wants to play a game. [04:51] -openchrome actually makes via work decently [04:51] It would be a long wait. [04:52] no other driver can say the same [04:53] has -openchrome even been packaged for ubuntu? [04:53] yes [04:53] i packaged it earlier this summer [04:53] its in universe [04:53] hmm, is it in universe? [04:53] gutsy-only, alas [04:53] LaserJock: What I heard is that -intel doesn't support some i8xx cards as good as -i810, but since you have an i915 card, it should be a problem. [04:54] shouldn't? [04:54] i have seen -intel fail on i9xx cards [04:54] LaserJock: Right. Shouldn't. [04:54] aha, so it is [04:54] so we have -via, -openchrome, and -unichrome now. :-) [04:55] sounds like we need a driver Thunderdome [04:55] i like the idea of making openchrome default and having the other two available myself :) [04:55] LaserJock: But I have very limited knowledge on these things, so you may want to seek advice from more experienced people. :-) [04:55] superm1: sounds sensible [04:55] superm1: I'm not familiar enough with the pros / cons of each driver to have an opinion yet [04:56] bryce, well the openchrome provides xvmc [04:56] whereas the other two don't [04:56] i was under the impression older cards didn't work with openchrome, but if for via its the same situation, that's not a big deal [04:56] bryce: i can paste a link to a flamewar that bares all info [04:57] superm1: Any reason it can't be backported to Feisty? [04:57] okie [04:57] ScottK, not that i know of [04:57] beyond attempting a build :) [04:57] Since it's a NEW package there's no regression risk. [04:57] As long as it builds and doesn't catch the computer on fire, I'll approve a backport. [04:58] You might try dapper-backports too. [04:58] well i'll do a test build on it [04:58] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2005-December/011757.html [04:58] bryce: I don't think they plan on doing a release with it now, they're just pulling the randr-1.2 branch into master [04:58] they made a 6.8 branch for the current driver [04:59] oh, hrm [05:00] bryce: so should -intel work on a 915GMS ok in Feisty? [05:01] LaserJock: one way to find out... [05:02] the intel driver has some issues [05:02] LaserJock: ymmv. I recall there were a variety of issues when kyle was looking at it with dell [05:02] i believe it's because totem/gstreamer is stupid and picks the first Xv output offered which is the texture based one [05:02] but that only works with EXA so it fails [05:02] agd5f: I'd definitely be up for pulling that into gutsy if the branch is merged into the official release. that'd be great [05:02] bryce: awesome. === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] ScottK, yea it builds clean on feisty [05:03] but that only seems to break if you use compiz so i get blamed :P [05:04] superm1: File the bug in feisty-backports if it installs. [05:04] Amaranth: the announcement to the xorg lists talks of a 6.7.191 [05:04] i never had totem working decently -- i always just installed mplayer [05:04] bryce: aren't we on 6.7.193 now? [05:04] ok ScottK [05:04] 6.6.193 [05:05] won't build on dapper however without changes [05:09] btw, for the -avivo driver there's a UVF exception request needing MOTU attention: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-avivo/+bug/133647 [05:09] Launchpad bug 133647 in xserver-xorg-video-avivo "Please sync xserver-xorg-video-avivo (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Medium,Triaged] [05:12] ScottK, https://bugs.launchpad.net/feisty-backports/+bug/131776 that bug was already opened. It built and installed fine for me, but my via hardware is out of commision so i'm not able to test it. i anticipate the person who attempted to test it in that bug may have had an unsupported chipset for openchrome, but don't know for sure [05:12] Launchpad bug 131776 in feisty-backports "please backport xserver-xorg-video-openchrome" [Undecided,Incomplete] === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] anyway, gotta run to dinner. cya === LongPointyStick [n=mystery@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guest22 [n=brendt@c-76-26-103-132.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ytojack [n=ytojack@218.15.103.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] bryce: Do you have an opinion on backporting openchrome? [05:35] superm1: Please comment on the bug that you installed it and it works and that the hardware the other guy has may not be supported? [05:36] well ScottK "works" is a matter of opinion, but i'll add some comments [05:36] Sure. === LongPointyStick waves to ScottK [05:40] High there LongPointyStick. [05:40] Hi even [05:41] 8 days until new package freeze. Let's get reviewing. [05:41] meh === LongPointyStick has uni and such [05:42] Details. [05:42] Maybe nixternal will do some... [05:42] His classes are over for the day. [05:43] gatos tv-out support has just been relicensed. time to integrate? [05:43] If you can get it done in 8 days. [05:43] it's just a patch [05:44] Ah. More time for that then. === ytojack [n=ytojack@218.15.103.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] hmm, so there is like 20 packages on REVU [05:48] are those ones that people have uploaded since REVu got brought back up? [05:49] LaserJock: they must have been [05:49] everything else got ditched, due to possible contamination [05:49] looks like it, the oldest looks like it's from the 19th [05:50] maybe we should periodically have an "accident" ;-) [05:50] hehe :) [05:50] indeed! [05:50] whenever the queue gets too large [05:51] once it hits so many uploads it just turns of apache for 24 hrs [05:51] *off [05:51] that'd be nice [05:57] Several of the ones that are there were uploaded on the old review and worked on by some of the more motivated so they are in relatively good shape. [05:57] So far I've looked at 3, and advocated all three (one after some minor corrections). [05:58] One has even been uploaded already. [05:58] oh nice! [05:59] I think mok@bioxray.dk will be a MOTU before (or maybe shortly after) Gutsy releases. His stuff is good. [06:00] Actually, LaserJock might like mustang as it's a very sciency package. [06:01] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=36 [06:03] ScottK: sure [06:03] It's looking for a second advocate. [06:05] morning [06:05] geeze I haven't done a review in some time [06:06] Morning ajmitch. [06:06] LaserJock: It's a small package. === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] Yeah, mustang looks clean and sweet. [06:09] ScottK: maybe the tarball could be renamed to reflect it's been repacked [06:10] It's supposed to unpack into packagename-version.orig. IIRC there's a dpkg-buildpackage bug that does you the favor of renaming the dir so you can't tell. [06:11] Let me double check on that one. [06:12] well, I would think you would do a dfsg [06:12] Yeah. It's named correctly in the tarball. [06:13] Except it wasn't repacked for dfsg removal. [06:13] that's what is often done [06:13] sure it was [06:13] It was repackaged to add license text. [06:13] oh [06:13] The license was in the file headers, but the full copy wasn't there. [06:13] it says it was repackaged to remove the PDB files because they have no copyright [06:13] Grumble. Yeah that too. [06:13] Good point. === ScottK agrees [06:14] Well I missed that one. [06:15] Are PDB files copyrightable? They are just data. [06:15] He was being conservative. [06:15] well, that's what I would wonder [06:16] I don't think it's clear cut [06:16] Agregations of data are copyrightable in their arrangement, so it's not clear. [06:16] the Blue Obelisk group is working on that kind of stuff [06:17] The canonical (pun intended) reference database for US Code (the law) is copyright because of the indexing developed by the company that puts it out. You can't properly cite a case without their index reference. [06:17] personally I think it should be fine, but I guess if you want to really be safe it's better to not have stuff that's has no copyright info [06:18] His first package got bounced by pitti for licensing, so I think he's being really careful. [06:18] yeah [06:18] ScottK: well, what do you think? should he use dfsg ? [06:18] Agreed. We can always add PDB files back later if needed. [06:18] he added a cool script that downloads some PDB files for testing [06:19] Debian uses "ds" suffices which stands for "Debian source" on some repackaged upstream tarballs. [06:19] I think I'm ok with it as it is [06:19] he clearly states in copyright that it's repacked [06:21] I think it's OK. [06:21] dsfg might be better, but it's not required. [06:22] The part that's clear in the repacked tarball best practices is unpacking to pakcagename-version.orig and it does that. [06:22] ok, I'm going to advocate and upload [06:22] Coo. [06:22] Cool even. [06:23] Reverend http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=33 is also a bit sciencey (not as sciencey as mustang) and looking for a second advocate. [06:23] Maybe minghua would have that one .... [06:25] ScottK: Sorry, don't know python packaging at all. And I would rather not advocate packages without building and testing it in gutsy (which I can't do now). [06:25] Reverend? :-) [06:26] Yeah. It's some kind of bayesian classifier thingy [06:27] "named after Rev. Thomas Bayes. [06:27] ah [06:28] I'm not very comfortable with people adding copyright stuff to orig.tar.gzs [06:28] ScottK, there is an error in the license on reverend [06:28] it'd be nice is upstream's would get it right :-) [06:28] Urgh. [06:28] er nvm [06:28] i read it wrong [06:29] Not urgh then. [06:29] i thought he was claiming LGPL in one place and GPL in another :) === superm1 needs to read closer before blurting out loud [06:31] ummm [06:31] What'd I miss? [06:31] if the app is LGPL and the packaging is GPL, what is the resulting .deb? === ScottK thought that was OK, but .... [06:32] well, they are compatible licenses [06:32] Code is LGPL and that's what gets installed. [06:32] the .deb it self would be GPL. [06:32] just an interesting thought [06:32] Yeah. [06:32] I don't know why he did it that way, but it seemed fine. [06:32] if I copyright the packaging I use the same license as the code === ScottK too. [06:33] It keeps things clean. === ScottK - for some reason - ponders putting packaging under a "can't be used by Automatix" license. I wonder if that would hold water. === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === soulrider__ [n=mauro@r190-64-142-103.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] ScottK, wouldnt. that would violate the Open Source Definition, for one. [06:36] So it goes in multiverse then. === tudenbart [n=willi@xdsl-81-173-175-157.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] ScottK: it'd almost be worth it ;-) [06:40] That's what I'm thinking. [06:41] ScottK: thx [06:41] You're welcome. It seemed like your kind of thing. [06:41] ScottK: I know this, I work with doko on them [06:41] Ah. Good to hear. [06:41] seriously, if we had source packages and .debs built and then run lintian/linda on both [06:42] it seems like that would help [06:42] I agree. [06:42] I can see using ppa as a back end. [06:42] Or maybe even jdong's backport builder thingy. [06:43] so if we had a webgui [06:43] I don't know enough about how it works. === ajmitch shudders [06:43] that gave like links to lintian/linda output [06:43] Yeah. [06:43] maybe even a () with the list of errors/warnings [06:44] I think it's about time for me to get to bed. [06:44] So good night all. [06:45] night === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tudenbart is now known as dothebart === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.141.36.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@pc-84-203-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@12.10.190.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:53] wow [07:53] the upload queue now has the whole source package === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-f3fa487722932798] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff19c100-129.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] hi motus [08:11] I see revu's mostly back === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-149-196.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff19c100-129.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-57-164.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena_ [n=caravena@pc-84-203-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F76EE5.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] good morning === Havis_ [n=Havis@adsl-d99.84-47-55.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-57-164.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-80-50.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-57-164.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-57-164.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Baby [n=miry@195.37.62.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gizmo_ [n=gizmo@p578b708f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] can somebody tell me if motu-uvf was OK with bug 129043? [09:39] Launchpad bug 129043 in democracyplayer "democracy-player has a new version and a new name, please upgrade package in Gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129043 [09:40] Hobbsee was, but it's not entirely obvious from her comment on the bug. === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-57-164.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] I reassigned to motu-uvf again [09:41] just to be sure === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] Good morning! === norsetto [n=norsetto@host225-159-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:49] morning all and then some === sn9_ [n=danielg4@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us] has left #ubuntu-motu ["This] === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-57-164.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdthood [n=jdthood@x100.decis.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kkubasik [n=kkubasik@pool-71-178-242-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kkubasik [n=kkubasik@pool-71-178-242-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving."] === oracle2025 [n=oracle@85-127-189-2.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-182.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] StevenK: I hope you agree with what I have written in bug 77000? [10:37] Launchpad bug 77000 in kino "Kino is very old in Ubuntu - several upstream versions with important bugfixes and lots of improvements has been released, please package ver. 1.0.x" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77000 === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-182.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:48] norsetto: don't even need 1.1.1, we have gtk+ 2.11.x [10:51] Amaranth: good point indeed === pygi [n=mario@155-134.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-359-1-132-65.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Havis__ [n=Havis@adsl-dyn207.91-127-187.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Havis [n=Havis@adsl-dyn135.91-127-174.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-184-60.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] morning all === bmm [n=bram@cc400801-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] Any MOTU: I found some tabs in my copyright file, so I've replaced them with spaces. So I will have to to a new upload of boswars to REVU, but because it's pretty large, is there somebody who would like to comment on http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=42 ? === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jono [i=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:41] norsetto: What you said in 77000 is fine === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:45] bmm: just a quick look on it: can you have boswars and boswars-gl installed at the same time? [11:45] geser: yes, the only thing I chose is to give the menu items the same name, so it might be weird to have that [11:46] geser: but there isn't any technical reason not to allow it. [11:46] ok [11:46] the binary is the same for both? [11:47] geser: No, one is compiled with OpenGL support, the other without. Or do they look the same? [11:47] I ask because both Desktop files have "Exec=boswars -d /usr/share/games/boswars" [11:48] geser: then that's a problems.... I'll take a look. [11:49] geser: that's a bug, I'll fix that now. Sorry for that. [11:50] please also remove config.log in the clean rule [11:51] geser: ok, that's another bug :-) [11:51] that's all I've found on a quick look at the diff.gz [11:52] geser: then I should read my own diff.gz more :-( [11:52] geser: I'll do another upload after testing the new menu for the gl package. Thanks for looking! === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F73875.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] uscan (watch system) thinkgs that pre2.4 is a never version than 2.4. Is that my fault (can I do anything to fix this)? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === toutouff [n=nicolas@gov91-1-82-234-90-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bueroman [n=setanta@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] bmm: dpkg --compare-versions 2.4 '>' 2.4~pre && echo true [12:31] bmm: in debian/watch: opts="uversionmangle=s/pre/~pre/ [12:32] POX_: thanks! [12:32] if "pre" is before "2.4" (as in your example), move it to the end === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisle [n=chris@e178086221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@host129-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix is now known as fredix_away === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP files some UVFes just to keep the MOTU-UVF team awake :) === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Prezu [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === simu_ [n=simon@dhcp-99-12.vpn.unibe.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Prezu [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] hi I need advocates for my package on revu: rotoscope === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisle [n=chris@e178086221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dharrigan [n=david@host12.williamhill.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] coNP: I don't think ScottK needs that; when he was here yesterday it must have been 4am for him :-) [01:07] coNP: sorry, what do you mean? [01:07] Oh, the UVFes [01:07] norsetto: ^^ === coNP is getting tired :) [01:08]