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asac | damn ... getting up at 7 to visit public offices isn't fun if you went to bed at 3am :) | 10:26 |
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bluekuja | asac: :) | 11:01 |
asac | hey | 11:01 |
bluekuja | how is life going around here? | 11:02 |
asac | did the police take your drivers license :) | 11:02 |
asac | ? | 11:02 |
bluekuja | lol | 11:02 |
asac | for me things are fine. | 11:02 |
bluekuja | I was lucky they didnt find me | 11:03 |
bluekuja | :P | 11:03 |
bluekuja | anyway everything went fine | 11:03 |
bluekuja | asac: did you see this mail: | 11:04 |
bluekuja | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2007-August/000314.html | 11:04 |
bluekuja | this make me crazy | 11:04 |
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bluekuja | asac: usually ppl on august leave for vacation | 11:05 |
bluekuja | so does not do any activity | 11:05 |
bluekuja | but maybe it's not clear for everyone | 11:05 |
asac | well ... he cannot know | 11:06 |
bluekuja | so he shouldnt talk | 11:06 |
asac | we usually don't do much holiday | 11:06 |
bluekuja | yeah, because you're one of the project managers | 11:06 |
bluekuja | and you follows mozilla directly | 11:07 |
asac | i don't see anything offending in it | 11:07 |
asac | really | 11:07 |
asac | its just that so many people vanish and just stop | 11:07 |
asac | that its a valid question to ask | 11:07 |
bluekuja | in my opinion he loves to talk too much | 11:07 |
bluekuja | I never put any word in others stuff | 11:08 |
asac | keybuk is a reasonable person ... everybody has his weaknes though | 11:08 |
bluekuja | I speak only for me and for open discussions | 11:08 |
bluekuja | asac: he was scottk | 11:08 |
asac | ah | 11:08 |
asac | ok | 11:08 |
asac | sorry misread | 11:08 |
bluekuja | asac: he did it already with: | 11:09 |
asac | well just answer and get over it ... its a public mailing list so nobody can really stop others from posting things | 11:09 |
bluekuja | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2007-July/000240.html | 11:10 |
bluekuja | and | 11:10 |
bluekuja | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2007-July/000244.html | 11:10 |
asac | yeah ... but he has no word ... some people just want to be over-critical | 11:10 |
bluekuja | yeah, but you know how I'm done | 11:11 |
bluekuja | I get crazy when I see stuff like that | 11:11 |
asac | you cannot prevent technical hybris people to be in a project | 11:11 |
bluekuja | true thing | 11:11 |
asac | think about this as a challenge ... you really have to learn how real life is | 11:11 |
bluekuja | ye, nice hint | 11:11 |
bluekuja | I hope this will end up in a good way | 11:12 |
bluekuja | too many noise | 11:12 |
asac | there are always people that are assholes or want to piss at you ... the average in ubuntu is on top of the world though | 11:12 |
asac | yes ... i cannot tell why this noise happened ... i think its because you peered with a lot of people in the past | 11:12 |
bluekuja | yea | 11:13 |
bluekuja | only because a +0.5 | 11:13 |
asac | and if peer with lots of people chances are high that you bump into someone who has an attitude that isn't really what you want | 11:13 |
asac | yeah ... which wasn't good as well ... i mean ... i think matt (or someone) asked to give clear + 1 or -1 ... and then he answered well "i give 0.5" | 11:14 |
bluekuja | yea | 11:14 |
asac | a bit childish ... either he should stand up to his opinion and give a -1 | 11:14 |
asac | or a +1 | 11:14 |
bluekuja | in fact | 11:14 |
bluekuja | he had no motivation for a -1 | 11:14 |
bluekuja | he asked me in pm | 11:14 |
asac | maybe he hat ... but didn't have the guts to publicly state his opinion | 11:15 |
bluekuja | to have lionel's mail | 11:15 |
asac | s/hat/had/ | 11:15 |
bluekuja | with his response, lionel sent a +1 | 11:15 |
bluekuja | so he had no more chance | 11:15 |
bluekuja | but he gave a +0.5 after 1 month of inactivity | 11:15 |
bluekuja | I don't more mind about this really | 11:17 |
asac | i would just answer to that mail with "i was on vacation" ... and get back to normal life | 11:18 |
bluekuja | a friend sent a mail already | 11:19 |
bluekuja | :) | 11:19 |
bluekuja | when I was away | 11:19 |
asac | then its already clarified ... no need to put time into answering his email | 11:20 |
asac | just ignore it then | 11:20 |
bluekuja | yea | 11:20 |
bluekuja | asac: I will finish vacations on this sunday | 11:21 |
bluekuja | then I restart school | 11:21 |
bluekuja | and I will have really less time to be here | 11:21 |
bluekuja | but I guess one hour per day | 11:21 |
asac | thats good | 11:22 |
bluekuja | yea, at least I can check/answer mails | 11:22 |
bluekuja | fix bugs on my packages | 11:22 |
bluekuja | and nothing more | 11:23 |
asac | how is your new relationship going? | 11:23 |
bluekuja | asac: is not going good with the new gf | 11:24 |
bluekuja | ^^ | 11:24 |
bluekuja | lol | 11:24 |
bluekuja | you had the same idea | 11:24 |
bluekuja | and I posted a msg about it just before you | 11:24 |
bluekuja | :D | 11:24 |
asac | hmm ... i am sorry ... but you are young ... so plenty of time to find the right one | 11:24 |
asac | hehe | 11:24 |
asac | yeah funny | 11:24 |
bluekuja | yeah | 11:25 |
bluekuja | but I hope everything will return to its right placer | 11:25 |
bluekuja | *place | 11:25 |
asac | you will see ... there are times of dark ... and times that are bright | 11:25 |
bluekuja | yeah true, you have tons of experience | 11:26 |
asac | at some point you will wonder "why the hell is everything going so well" | 11:26 |
bluekuja | lol | 11:26 |
bluekuja | I hope it will happen | 11:26 |
asac | bluekuja: school ... last year? | 11:27 |
bluekuja | asac: should be last year | 11:28 |
bluekuja | :/ | 11:28 |
bluekuja | got some problems this year | 11:28 |
bluekuja | e.g I stopped to study | 11:28 |
bluekuja | not really stopped | 11:29 |
bluekuja | but I didnt want to spend hours on books | 11:29 |
bluekuja | a great error | 11:29 |
bluekuja | now I'm 18 and will have 2 more years of school | 11:30 |
bluekuja | damn me | 11:30 |
bluekuja | asac: you know, when you're young, you love to spend time with friends et all instead of books hehe :) | 11:32 |
asac | yes i know | 11:34 |
asac | i didn't do anything at home ... anyway i managed to be one of the best | 11:35 |
asac | the trick is: use the time you are in school | 11:35 |
asac | contribute to classes ... | 11:35 |
bluekuja | yeah | 11:35 |
bluekuja | that's important | 11:36 |
asac | the time in school is wasted otherwise ... and chatting with friends during classes isn't really that great either | 11:36 |
bluekuja | lol | 11:36 |
bluekuja | chatting with friends is really common here | 11:36 |
asac | better do a lot of things in school ... you won't need to do homework then | 11:36 |
asac | bluekuja: its common everywhere | 11:37 |
bluekuja | yup | 11:37 |
asac | you can even do it ... but contribute to the classes ... listen ... try to find it interesting ... then learning is much easier | 11:37 |
asac | its not easy ... but being able to find something interesting even though its boring is really a great advantage | 11:38 |
asac | ok working on something ;) | 11:39 |
bluekuja | asac: have fun :) I'm leaving for the sea | 11:39 |
bluekuja | will be back on sunday | 11:39 |
bluekuja | (sunday --> vacations end) | 11:40 |
bluekuja | take care alex | 11:40 |
bluekuja | ;) | 11:40 |
gnomefreak | everything under code tag in your LP home page is borked (your == im sure everyone but atleast for me this happens) | 11:40 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak, huh? | 11:40 |
asac | bluekuja: yeah ... just one more thing about school: there is a way to be good in school but still be the coolest guy in your class | 11:41 |
asac | :) | 11:41 |
bluekuja | asac: :D | 11:41 |
bluekuja | you're a pro man | 11:41 |
bluekuja | :) | 11:41 |
gnomefreak | bluekuja: go to your code tag in LP than click on one of the branches it will oops | 11:41 |
asac | gnomefreak: they probably roll-out a new lp build | 11:41 |
gnomefreak | asac: i just asked if it was known but yes that is most likely the cause | 11:42 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak, yup | 11:42 |
bluekuja | confirmed here | 11:42 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak, is for build build 4759 | 11:43 |
bluekuja | out this night | 11:43 |
bluekuja | 22-23 august | 11:44 |
gnomefreak | huh? | 11:44 |
bluekuja | with ppa support | 11:44 |
bluekuja | et all | 11:44 |
asac | bluekuja: where do you see that its out this night? | 11:44 |
bluekuja | asac: was reading a friend's blog | 11:44 |
bluekuja | who follows it | 11:44 |
asac | url? | 11:44 |
bluekuja | asac: is italian | 11:44 |
bluekuja | :) | 11:44 |
bluekuja | italian planet | 11:44 |
bluekuja | http://planet.ubuntu-it.org/ | 11:45 |
bluekuja | first post | 11:45 |
bluekuja | maybe rewell posted a mail | 11:45 |
bluekuja | in launchpad beta testers | 11:46 |
bluekuja | I forget to check mail | 11:46 |
asac | gnomefreak: do you see personal package archives in mozillateam? | 11:46 |
bluekuja | but I guess that's it | 11:46 |
asac | gnomefreak: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam | 11:46 |
asac | i won't see it as i am not admin afaik | 11:46 |
bluekuja | asac: who is dfarning? | 11:47 |
gnomefreak | asac: yes its called active personal package archive | 11:47 |
asac | bluekuja: dfarning became ubuntu-member and then just left and was never seen again | 11:47 |
bluekuja | oh^^ | 11:47 |
asac | bluekuja: e.g. just to show you that things that scottk claims really happen | 11:47 |
bluekuja | yeah | 11:48 |
asac | gnomefreak: please set one up for us then | 11:48 |
asac | cool ... on ~asac i can see it as well | 11:48 |
asac | nice | 11:48 |
bluekuja | asac: yeah | 11:48 |
bluekuja | is for everyone | 11:49 |
bluekuja | I tested it on beta | 11:49 |
bluekuja | before | 11:49 |
bluekuja | and it rocks | 11:49 |
asac | yes ... i know ... wasn't sure if its all set up alrady | 11:49 |
bluekuja | it builds packages for amd64 and i386 | 11:49 |
gnomefreak | hmmmmmmm | 11:49 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak, ? | 11:50 |
asac | i think the https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart is still outdated as it still refers to beta et al | 11:50 |
gnomefreak | asac: what would sound good for an explaination for it | 11:50 |
asac | mozillateam testing/preview and bleeding-edge packages :) | 11:51 |
gnomefreak | k | 11:51 |
bluekuja | asac: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/2007-August/001998.html | 11:51 |
asac | gnomefreak: we can change description later ;) | 11:51 |
gnomefreak | https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive | 11:52 |
asac | bluekuja: hmm so its still beta? | 11:52 |
bluekuja | asac: yup | 11:52 |
asac | gnomefreak: ok ... we just have to remember not to upload anything that we don't have a bzr branch | 11:52 |
asac | because it might be wiped at some point | 11:52 |
bluekuja | I think every team member | 11:53 |
bluekuja | will be notified | 11:53 |
bluekuja | with uploads | 11:53 |
bluekuja | asac: you'll receive an ACCEPTED mail | 11:53 |
asac | bluekuja: yeah ... lets see how it works out | 11:53 |
bluekuja | as alwais | 11:53 |
asac | gnomefreak: wanna try? | 11:53 |
gnomefreak | yes i will | 11:53 |
asac | push -trunk ? | 11:53 |
bluekuja | :D | 11:54 |
gnomefreak | asac: is it up to date | 11:54 |
asac | Ubulette: is your branch in a decent state or shall we cherry-pick things to mozillateam branch and upload that to ppa ? | 11:54 |
asac | Ubulette: trunk branch | 11:54 |
asac | gnomefreak: let me see if Ubulette pushed something to mt branch | 11:55 |
asac | yesterady | 11:55 |
asac | oh code.lp.net is broken :) | 11:55 |
gnomefreak | i cant see them | 11:55 |
gnomefreak | asac: read above :) | 11:55 |
asac | yeah... now i see the point ;) | 11:55 |
asac | gnomefreak: ok ... lets push something small to test | 11:56 |
asac | https://code.launchpad.net/~fta/nspr/nspr.ubuntu.trunk | 11:56 |
asac | gnomefreak: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/ ... tarballs are there | 11:57 |
gnomefreak | ok give me a few | 11:58 |
asac | branching still works ... apparently only web-frontend is broken | 11:58 |
bluekuja | asac: I think package removal is active now | 11:59 |
bluekuja | e.g removing a package inside a ppa archive | 11:59 |
asac | gnomefreak: maybe fix version ... append ~mt1 ... and target for gutsy for now | 11:59 |
asac | bluekuja: yeah ... good to know ;) | 11:59 |
bluekuja | yup | 11:59 |
bluekuja | ) | 11:59 |
bluekuja | :) | 11:59 |
asac | at least one can wipe broken things | 11:59 |
gnomefreak | is this tarball set to use bzr-build? | 11:59 |
bluekuja | yup | 11:59 |
asac | yes | 11:59 |
gnomefreak | damn | 11:59 |
gnomefreak | k | 12:00 |
bluekuja | :D | 12:00 |
asac | just branch ... fix changelog (commit) | 12:00 |
bluekuja | asac: how is weather there? | 12:00 |
asac | 20 degree ... partly cloudy ... in short: semi-sucks | 12:00 |
bluekuja | I went to cracow and bratislava some days ago | 12:00 |
bluekuja | and was pretty good | 12:00 |
bluekuja | here is bad | 12:00 |
bluekuja | raining now | 12:01 |
bluekuja | :/ | 12:01 |
asac | yeah ... cracow is poland nowadays | 12:01 |
bluekuja | yup | 12:01 |
asac | they are not that close to the see ... so they have dryer summer ... and colder winters | 12:01 |
asac | s/see/sea/ | 12:01 |
bluekuja | I'll come to hamburg | 12:01 |
bluekuja | so we can meet up | 12:01 |
asac | bratislava is slovakai? | 12:01 |
bluekuja | yup | 12:01 |
asac | ok ... how is the city? | 12:02 |
asac | worth visiting? | 12:02 |
bluekuja | central part of the city is really nice (old castle et all), other parts sux (people have no money there) | 12:02 |
asac | wanted to go to prague at some point ... but maybe thats already too mainstream and so i consider bratislava | 12:02 |
asac | yeah ... just want to look at the old central city | 12:03 |
bluekuja | that's nice | 12:03 |
bluekuja | the | 12:03 |
bluekuja | *then | 12:03 |
bluekuja | :) | 12:03 |
bluekuja | prague rocks too much | 12:03 |
bluekuja | I went there 2 years ago | 12:03 |
asac | well ... i think i will do both | 12:03 |
asac | maybe one can stay longer in prague | 12:03 |
asac | just have been there switching trains ... | 12:04 |
bluekuja | asac: I was talking with a slovakian friend about money/month for works there | 12:04 |
asac | yeah probably 500 EUR if you are lucky :) | 12:04 |
bluekuja | 300 euroes | 12:04 |
bluekuja | *euros | 12:04 |
bluekuja | per month | 12:04 |
asac | yes ... thats less | 12:04 |
bluekuja | it's nothing | 12:05 |
asac | however if you have 1k you can probably live pretty well there | 12:05 |
asac | while you would die here | 12:05 |
bluekuja | yup | 12:05 |
bluekuja | anyway stay longer in prague | 12:05 |
bluekuja | it's the best | 12:05 |
asac | go to romania ... they have even less | 12:05 |
bluekuja | yup | 12:05 |
bluekuja | asac: girls there are the nicest ever | 12:05 |
asac | right ;) | 12:06 |
asac | though its dangerous that way :) | 12:06 |
bluekuja | yup | 12:06 |
gnomefreak | asac: Step 4: As there is no override system, you have to upload you package to the right/desired component. In debian/control, use this syntax Section: universe/devel. does that mean i have to use universe/devel? or can i use anything | 12:06 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak, use every section | 12:06 |
bluekuja | you assume is good | 12:06 |
bluekuja | e.g universe/sound | 12:06 |
bluekuja | just use that syntax | 12:06 |
asac | gnomefreak: no idea where nspr belongs to | 12:07 |
gnomefreak | so it has to be universe? | 12:07 |
asac | maybe look what apt-cache show shows you | 12:07 |
asac | gnomefreak: probably | 12:07 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak, yea | 12:07 |
gnomefreak | asac: libs | 12:07 |
asac | though unsure | 12:07 |
gnomefreak | ok | 12:07 |
bluekuja | it doesnt matter | 12:07 |
asac | gnomefreak: you can try | 12:07 |
asac | gnomefreak: but stick to universe for mozillateam packages | 12:07 |
asac | i don't want to pretend that they are suppported ;) | 12:07 |
asac | gnomefreak: what does howto say ... how to upload? dput ... dupload ? | 12:08 |
bluekuja | asac: dput | 12:09 |
bluekuja | or dupload | 12:09 |
bluekuja | same | 12:09 |
bluekuja | for ppa | 12:09 |
gnomefreak | dput i think | 12:09 |
asac | yes was just curious what is named in howto | 12:09 |
bluekuja | got no name | 12:09 |
bluekuja | they say "upload" | 12:09 |
asac | ok | 12:09 |
bluekuja | so you have to use your personal uploader | 12:09 |
bluekuja | I guess | 12:09 |
asac | right | 12:09 |
asac | bluekuja: is upload through anonymous ftp ... or authenticated ssh/sftp ? | 12:10 |
bluekuja | asac: mm | 12:11 |
bluekuja | I really don't know | 12:11 |
asac | bluekuja: how did you upload? | 12:11 |
bluekuja | I added a new host on dput.cf | 12:11 |
asac | (you told you tested on dogfood) | 12:11 |
bluekuja | and pushed | 12:11 |
asac | bluekuja: you still have the dput.cf entry? | 12:12 |
bluekuja | yea | 12:12 |
asac | i guess its anonymous ftp if you don't know though | 12:12 |
bluekuja | [ppa] | 12:12 |
bluekuja | fqdn = upload.dogfood.launchpad.net | 12:12 |
bluekuja | incoming = ~bluekuja/ubuntu/ | 12:12 |
bluekuja | login = anonymous | 12:12 |
bluekuja | anonymous | 12:12 |
bluekuja | yea | 12:12 |
bluekuja | :) | 12:12 |
bluekuja | asac: I'm leaving | 12:13 |
asac | gnomefreak: good thing is that you can push with distribution "dapper" -> it will be build for dapper ... | 12:13 |
bluekuja | yup | 12:13 |
asac | bluekuja: ok bye | 12:13 |
asac | cu | 12:13 |
bluekuja | asac: cu on sunday! | 12:13 |
bluekuja | have fun with ppa | 12:13 |
bluekuja | :) | 12:13 |
asac | gnomefreak: you can take the above dput entry and adapt it | 12:14 |
gnomefreak | asac: UNRELEASED; change that to? | 12:14 |
asac | e.g. s/bluekuja/mozillateam/ | 12:14 |
asac | gnomefreak: thats the distribution i was talking about | 12:14 |
asac | so if the package is ment for gutsy ... use gutsy | 12:14 |
asac | feisty ... feisty | 12:14 |
gnomefreak | k | 12:14 |
asac | and so on | 12:14 |
asac | lets build nspr for gutsy though | 12:14 |
asac | gnomefreak: append ~mt1 to the version ubulette choose | 12:15 |
asac | then commit changelog with: debian/changelog: upload of version XXXX to gutsy ppa | 12:15 |
asac | however lets wait for Ubulette to tell us if its ok to push to mt branch | 12:16 |
asac | but i think it its | 12:16 |
asac | gnomefreak: is there a way so we can recover what was in the old archive? | 12:17 |
gnomefreak | that entry is wrong | 12:17 |
gnomefreak | asac: no | 12:17 |
asac | e.g. all the dapper packages we did once? | 12:17 |
asac | damn | 12:17 |
asac | not a big problem because so far 1.5.0.x security maintenance appears to work out well | 12:17 |
asac | gnomefreak: which entry is wrong? | 12:18 |
asac | 12:12 < bluekuja> [ppa] | 12:18 |
asac | 12:12 < bluekuja> fqdn = upload.dogfood.launchpad.net | 12:18 |
asac | 12:12 < bluekuja> incoming = ~bluekuja/ubuntu/ | 12:18 |
asac | 12:12 < bluekuja> login = anonymous | 12:18 |
asac | 12:12 < bluekuja> anonymous | 12:18 |
asac | that one? | 12:18 |
asac | ups | 12:18 |
asac | its just | 12:18 |
asac | 12:18 < asac> 12:12 < bluekuja> [ppa] | 12:18 |
asac | 12:18 < asac> 12:12 < bluekuja> fqdn = upload.dogfood.launchpad.net | 12:18 |
asac | 12:18 < asac> 12:12 < bluekuja> incoming = ~bluekuja/ubuntu/ | 12:18 |
asac | 12:18 < asac> 12:12 < bluekuja> login = anonymous | 12:18 |
asac | gnomefreak: but i think the server is different now | 12:18 |
gnomefreak | it is that is why i said the entry is wrong | 12:19 |
gnomefreak | im looking for correct info | 12:19 |
asac | ok fine | 12:19 |
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gnomefreak | ppa.launchpad.net is where you upload | 12:22 |
asac_the_2nd | ok thanks | 12:22 |
gnomefreak | atleas that is how i see it | 12:22 |
asac_the_2nd | yeah ... just try | 12:22 |
asac_the_2nd | you probably cannot do anything seriously wrong | 12:23 |
asac_the_2nd | otherwise its a bug in ppa | 12:23 |
gnomefreak | asac: do you have command for bzr bd to sign and just build source? | 12:25 |
asac_the_2nd | yes | 12:25 |
asac_the_2nd | bzr bd --merge --builder='debuild -S -sa' | 12:25 |
asac_the_2nd | (personally i use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa' | 12:25 |
asac_the_2nd | ) | 12:26 |
asac_the_2nd | but debuild should be better | 12:26 |
asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: if its not you in changelog you have to provide -k as well | 12:26 |
asac_the_2nd | bzr bd --merge --builder='debuild -S -sa -kgnomefreak' | 12:26 |
gnomefreak | bzr bd --merge --dont-purge --builder='dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -k3C1C3C2A' . | 12:27 |
asac_the_2nd | this bcm43xx wifi chip is stable as well ... the stress test is still running ... 6GB traffic through WPA2 ... just using network-manager | 12:27 |
asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: looks good | 12:28 |
asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: you can provide your email as well instead of your keyid | 12:28 |
gnomefreak | we shall see brb need more tea | 12:28 |
asac_the_2nd | basically if it shows up with | 12:28 |
asac_the_2nd | gpg --list-keys gnomefreak | 12:28 |
gnomefreak | oh wtf | 12:28 |
asac_the_2nd | then you can just use gnomefreak | 12:28 |
asac_the_2nd | i can just use -kasac@d | 12:28 |
asac_the_2nd | or -k asac@debian.org | 12:28 |
asac_the_2nd | as long as list-keys has a distinct match with what you provide as -k ... it should work | 12:29 |
gnomefreak | it doesnt matter its already failed | 12:29 |
asac_the_2nd | like? | 12:30 |
gnomefreak | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/188439 | 12:30 |
gnomefreak | looks like tarball | 12:30 |
gnomefreak | but i could be off | 12:30 |
asac_the_2nd | yes ... be sure the tarball is in tarballs | 12:31 |
asac_the_2nd | next to your branch | 12:31 |
asac_the_2nd | did you download it? | 12:31 |
asac_the_2nd | Looking for ../tarballs/nspr-trunk_4.7.0~cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz | 12:31 |
asac_the_2nd | that should exist | 12:31 |
asac_the_2nd | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/ | 12:32 |
gnomefreak | oh i think i forgot the s on tarballs | 12:32 |
asac_the_2nd | hehe | 12:32 |
gnomefreak | nope | 12:33 |
asac_the_2nd | well the tiny details that bite us day in day out | 12:33 |
gnomefreak | thats fine | 12:33 |
asac_the_2nd | if you are in branch | 12:33 |
asac_the_2nd | does | 12:33 |
asac_the_2nd | ls ../tarballs/nspr-trunk_4.7.0~cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz | 12:33 |
asac_the_2nd | show up the tarball? | 12:33 |
gnomefreak | i know i put it in there | 12:34 |
gnomefreak | gnomefreak@GutsyGibbon:~/nspr/tarballs$ ls | 12:35 |
gnomefreak | nspr-trunk_4.7.0~cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz | 12:35 |
asac_the_2nd | what is nspr? | 12:35 |
asac_the_2nd | just a dir ... or the branch? | 12:35 |
gnomefreak | just a fir | 12:35 |
gnomefreak | dir | 12:35 |
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gnomefreak | so im not building it in my home dir | 12:35 |
asac_the_2nd | well .. try the ls in the branch | 12:35 |
gnomefreak | ls in the branch? | 12:35 |
asac_the_2nd | you cd in the branch | 12:36 |
asac_the_2nd | then try ls as above | 12:36 |
asac_the_2nd | (12:33:23 PM) asac_the_2nd: ls ../tarballs/nspr-trunk_4.7.0~cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz | 12:36 |
gnomefreak | gnomefreak@GutsyGibbon:~/nspr/work/nspr.ubuntu.trunk$ ../tarballs/nspr-trunk_4.7.0~cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz | 12:36 |
gnomefreak | bash: ../tarballs/nspr-trunk_4.7.0~cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz: No such file or directory | 12:36 |
asac_the_2nd | yes | 12:36 |
asac_the_2nd | you are too deep | 12:36 |
asac_the_2nd | do you see that? | 12:36 |
asac_the_2nd | work? | 12:36 |
asac_the_2nd | you need the branch next to the tarballs dir | 12:36 |
gnomefreak | ah ok | 12:36 |
asac_the_2nd | ;) | 12:36 |
jeromeg | hello | 12:37 |
asac_the_2nd | hi | 12:37 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg: how did it work out? | 12:38 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: i builded the package without the patch | 12:38 |
asac_the_2nd | you just left without letting us know | 12:38 |
gnomefreak | i put tarballs outside of work and it should go inside it | 12:38 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: yep I was borred cause I had forgot to debuild -S -sa ... | 12:38 |
asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: i have all my branches in ~/ubuntu_bzr/ | 12:38 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: but the bug is still here without the patch | 12:38 |
asac_the_2nd | and a tarballs like ~/ubuntu_bzr/tarballs/ | 12:39 |
asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: so either move your branch one level up ... or move tarballs one level down (inside worK) | 12:39 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg: strange | 12:39 |
gnomefreak | i did already let me work on this other error now | 12:39 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg: you still have the build-tree ? | 12:39 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: yep | 12:40 |
asac_the_2nd | please go to build-tree/mozilla | 12:40 |
asac_the_2nd | and post output of: quilt applied | 12:40 |
jeromeg | in fact I don't know exactly what you mean by build-tree | 12:41 |
jeromeg | I build with pbuilde | 12:41 |
jeromeg | rr | 12:41 |
asac_the_2nd | well is your pbuilder chroot wiped now? | 12:41 |
asac_the_2nd | then you cannot look ... build tree is the source tree after the build has finished | 12:42 |
jeromeg | I think it's automatically cleaned after each build | 12:42 |
jeromeg | to keep it clean | 12:42 |
asac_the_2nd | yes ... then we cannot look ;) | 12:42 |
asac_the_2nd | for testing you should pass the option to not delete it after build | 12:42 |
jeromeg | I've just commented the patch in debian/patches/series | 12:42 |
asac_the_2nd | or don't buld in pbuilder at all | 12:42 |
jeromeg | debuild -S -sa | 12:42 |
jeromeg | and build | 12:43 |
jeromeg | and test | 12:43 |
asac_the_2nd | yes ... but i want to double check ... as the patch is almost certainly the problem | 12:43 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: I can give you the .deb or .dsc ? | 12:43 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg ... the diff.gz | 12:43 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: ok I'll put everything on line | 12:44 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg: i just need the diff.gz and the dsc+changes | 12:44 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg: i think we forgot to drop bz343360-feed-flat-chrome-fix.patch | 12:45 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: http://vv.guelf.free.fr/ubuntu/firefox/ | 12:46 |
asac_the_2nd | sorry for that | 12:46 |
asac_the_2nd | i was confused by my own confusing patch naming | 12:46 |
jeromeg | I think I dropped this one | 12:46 |
jeromeg | going to check | 12:46 |
asac_the_2nd | +flat-chrome-fix.patch | 12:47 |
asac_the_2nd | then thats the missing? | 12:47 |
jeromeg | ok I should have dropped the two patches ? | 12:48 |
asac_the_2nd | no idea ... i am testing now | 12:48 |
jeromeg | I can do it if you want | 12:49 |
jeromeg | I have some time | 12:49 |
asac_the_2nd | yes maybe try to drop that as well | 12:50 |
jeromeg | ok | 12:50 |
jeromeg | i'm on it | 12:50 |
asac_the_2nd | at best keep your pbuilder so you can later test more easily | 12:50 |
asac_the_2nd | e.g. without a rebuild | 12:50 |
jeromeg | ok | 12:50 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg: while you build | 12:51 |
asac_the_2nd | please clean error console in firefox (Tools -> Error Console) | 12:52 |
asac_the_2nd | then reproduce the bug | 12:52 |
asac_the_2nd | and see what shows up there | 12:52 |
asac_the_2nd | please post it | 12:52 |
jeromeg | here or to the bug report ? | 12:52 |
asac_the_2nd | for now here | 12:52 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg: in the error there should be a link to the source line that failed | 12:53 |
asac_the_2nd | when you click on it you should get there | 12:53 |
asac_the_2nd | maybe post that as well (e.g. -5 + 5 lines | 12:53 |
jeromeg | ok | 12:53 |
asac_the_2nd | but please to pastebin :) | 12:53 |
jeromeg | yep | 12:55 |
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jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: I was thinking, after that do you want me to test with only the second patch dropped ? | 01:00 |
asac_the_2nd | no ... both | 01:01 |
gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: how will dput decide to upload to PPA instead of revu. ~/.dput.cf isnt used for revu but ther eis a dput config that has revu as default | 01:02 |
asac_the_2nd | actually i hope that the first patch can be applied in the end ... but to track down we can drop both | 01:02 |
asac_the_2nd | dput NAME file.changes | 01:02 |
asac_the_2nd | e.g. NAME == ppa | 01:02 |
asac_the_2nd | or whatever you put i [] brackets in dput.cf | 01:02 |
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gnomefreak | Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com): | 01:04 |
gnomefreak | but i dont understand why it didnt default to revu since the main dput config file has revu as default | 01:05 |
gnomefreak | well it says it was uploaded | 01:06 |
gnomefreak | waiting for LP page to update with this info to see if it is correct | 01:07 |
gnomefreak | thought it should have used ppa.launchpad.net instead of uload.ubuntu.com | 01:07 |
asac_the_2nd | yeah | 01:09 |
asac_the_2nd | shouldn't do any harm ... as your key is not in the MOTU/main keyring yet | 01:10 |
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jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: http://pastebin.com/m4f5568a9 | 01:19 |
asac_the_2nd | yes its still the same | 01:22 |
asac_the_2nd | maybe dropping the other patch fixes it | 01:22 |
asac_the_2nd | otherwise i would have to look more closeyly ... .e.g where is the shorthand 'Cc' defined? | 01:22 |
asac_the_2nd | why isn't it defined for us | 01:23 |
jeromeg | ok | 01:25 |
jeromeg | can I do anything else ? | 01:26 |
asac | wait till the build finishes for now | 01:26 |
asac | if the build tree is still there we can take a closer look | 01:26 |
jeromeg | ok | 01:30 |
gnomefreak | i hate dput now | 01:38 |
gnomefreak | asac: it seems with ppa.launch[ad.net when using dput it uploads it to ubuntu archive | 01:39 |
gnomefreak | i asked in #launchpad waiting for answer on why | 01:39 |
asac | wierd | 01:41 |
gnomefreak | changing the ppa.lp.net to dogfood it tells me its already been uploaded | 01:42 |
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gnomefreak | * "upload.dogfood.launchpad.net" becomes "ppa.launchpad.net". | 01:42 |
asac | gnomefreak: hey its hot ... its beta ... dont be pissed. Lets be happy that ppa will work soonish :) ... i am out for lunch though :) ... catching the a bit sun available atm. | 01:43 |
gnomefreak | so i assumed it was correct | 01:43 |
gnomefreak | asac: have fun | 01:43 |
asac | gnomefreak: thanks let me know what #launchpad answers | 01:43 |
asac | maybe its correct? | 01:43 |
gnomefreak | dont know what i pasted was from lp list though | 01:43 |
gnomefreak | asac: seems to be a bug | 01:48 |
gnomefreak | asac: ok looks like its uploaded but LP hasnt refreshed the team ppa page nor the build page | 02:13 |
gnomefreak | oh and once PPA is stable it will drop all packages that are uploaded atm | 02:14 |
gnomefreak | i also have a personal PPA ;) | 02:14 |
asac | yah | 02:17 |
gnomefreak | ill be back a bit later have some things to attend to | 02:22 |
jeromeg | asac : bad news, still doesn't work with the two patches dropped | 02:25 |
asac | crazy | 02:28 |
jeromeg | maybe the patch has to be modified ? | 02:29 |
jeromeg | the packages/dsc/diff/changes are at the same adress | 02:31 |
asac | jeromeg: no ... its completely open to me why this happens then | 02:36 |
asac | please try something | 02:37 |
asac | let me look it up first though | 02:37 |
asac | jeromeg: where was your error paste? | 02:38 |
asac | nm ... found it | 02:38 |
asac | jeromeg: can you please open error console ... clear (so you see what happens) | 02:39 |
asac | and then in the textbox put: | 02:39 |
asac | Components.classes["@mozilla.org/browser/shell-service;1"] .getService(Components.interfaces.nsIShellService_MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH) | 02:39 |
asac | and hit return ... or press evaluate | 02:39 |
asac | what happens? | 02:39 |
asac | jeromeg: is it still the same error at all now? | 02:40 |
jeromeg | I'm having a look | 02:41 |
jeromeg | asac : same error message | 02:42 |
asac | ok try above | 02:44 |
jeromeg | an error message results | 02:45 |
asac | you should get [xpconnect wrapped nsIShell...] | 02:45 |
asac | as output | 02:45 |
jeromeg | but it won't let me copy it | 02:45 |
asac | are you sure you didn't miss a thing? | 02:45 |
asac | e.g. a typo or something? | 02:46 |
asac | let me try | 02:46 |
jeromeg | doesn't seem to be a typo | 02:46 |
asac_the_2nd | yes | 02:47 |
asac_the_2nd | i see it as well | 02:47 |
jeromeg | the error message ? | 02:47 |
asac_the_2nd | yes ... that the shell service component doesn't exist somehow | 02:48 |
jeromeg | it could explain the bug ? | 02:48 |
asac_the_2nd | for sure | 02:48 |
jeromeg | do you want me to do something else , | 02:49 |
jeromeg | ? | 02:49 |
asac_the_2nd | no ... just post to the bug that the @mozilla.org/browser/shell-service;1 apparently is not resolvable and copy the statement above ... say that it fails | 02:50 |
jeromeg | ok | 02:51 |
jeromeg | and I add the first error message or no ? | 02:51 |
asac_the_2nd | yes thats good as well | 02:53 |
asac_the_2nd | jeromeg: when i get an idea whatelse it might be i will let you know | 02:54 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: ok thx for your help | 02:55 |
jeromeg | asac_the_2nd: is that ok : bug 131743 ? | 02:59 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 131743 in liferea "liferea-add-feed does nothing in firefox" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131743 | 02:59 |
asac | jeromeg: "Thank you for your bug report. I can reproduce this, I'm marking this as triaged." | 03:06 |
asac | --> triaged would mean that we already have an evaluation on how to fix the problem | 03:06 |
asac | :) | 03:06 |
jeromeg | asac : this was for the liferea bug | 03:07 |
asac | interesting the triaged state was dropped | 03:07 |
asac | stupid me ... got confused by new interface | 03:08 |
jeromeg | asac : then I put liferea to Invalid as it was a problem with firefox, and added a firefox bug task | 03:08 |
asac | right | 03:08 |
jeromeg | asac : ah ok :) | 03:08 |
asac | but liferea isn't invalid :) | 03:08 |
asac | atm | 03:08 |
asac | there is a second target (on top) | 03:08 |
asac | fixed | 03:08 |
asac | jeromeg: fix the upstream bug as well | 03:09 |
asac | aeh invalidate i mean ;) | 03:09 |
jeromeg | asac : yeah ok, as it had been invalidated upstream I thought it would be automatic | 03:09 |
asac | ah | 03:09 |
asac | no idea | 03:09 |
asac | :) | 03:09 |
asac | i did it explicitly now | 03:10 |
asac | sorry for confusion ;) | 03:10 |
jeromeg | no problem | 03:10 |
jeromeg | I got to go now | 03:10 |
jeromeg | see you | 03:10 |
asac | cu | 03:10 |
asac | stay tuned | 03:10 |
asac | jeromeg: ^^ | 03:10 |
jeromeg | ok | 03:10 |
asac | bye | 03:10 |
jeromeg | byze | 03:11 |
jeromeg | *bye | 03:11 |
asac | gnomefreak: ppa still broken? | 03:12 |
asac | i guess we have to wait until ppa dev returns | 03:12 |
gnomefreak | asac: not sure i got reject email so im trying to fix it atm | 03:12 |
asac | gnomefreak: what does reject tell you? | 03:12 |
gnomefreak | asac: we are talking about it in #launchpad | 03:12 |
asac | k | 03:12 |
gnomefreak | asac: tells me cant find mozillateam in Lp but i think i have a clue | 03:13 |
asac | i am not in there ... and i better keep it that way ... I already get soaked in too much discussions | 03:13 |
asac | gnomefreak: clue ... good news ;) | 03:13 |
gnomefreak | i will let you know if i fix it | 03:14 |
asac | thanks ... i will not look in the channel for an hour or so ;) ... i have to get something done | 03:15 |
gnomefreak | thats fine it may be a while before i know if it works anyway | 03:19 |
gnomefreak | ok think i figured it out with a bit of help uploaded once again lets see how it goes :) | 03:40 |
gnomefreak | asac: https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive | 03:52 |
gnomefreak | they are building binaries atm use view build records to see them | 03:52 |
asac | gnomefreak: rock ... do the same for nss :) | 03:58 |
gnomefreak | k but you know next week we will have to redo everything | 03:59 |
gnomefreak | ok i need links for nss not for tar but for the bzr files | 04:01 |
asac | look at ~fta code.lp.net | 04:01 |
asac | there is nss-trunk | 04:01 |
asac | gnomefreak: ok forgot that it is so soon | 04:02 |
asac | @schedule berlin | 04:02 |
ubotu | Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 23 Aug 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 14:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 17:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 17:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 21:00: Technical Board | 29 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 04:03 |
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shirish | hey guys, what's up? | 06:27 |
shirish | Ubulette: you up m8? | 06:48 |
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gnomefreak | asac_the_2n1: nss and nspr are complete what else did you want up therE? | 07:42 |
asac | gnomefreak: well for now ... just those ... and maybe try a thunderbird 2.0 backport for feisty | 07:42 |
asac | :) | 07:42 |
gnomefreak | asac: one problem with that | 07:43 |
asac | i am not sure if we had standalone nss/nspr in our preview archive though | 07:43 |
gnomefreak | can we mix feisty and gutsy for same repo? | 07:43 |
gnomefreak | we did | 07:43 |
gnomefreak | if not we need to make another team for feisty | 07:44 |
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gnomefreak | i cant keep a frigging connection :( | 07:52 |
gnomefreak | although what we could do is use my personal PPA for feisty, i can try to build the new nss nspr that we just did for gutsy on feisty(if possible) than build tbird2 off that unless you have better idea | 07:54 |
asac | gnomefreak: no we can | 08:07 |
asac | its not mixing | 08:07 |
asac | the apt archive can deal with multiple distributions | 08:07 |
asac | (at least from what i know) | 08:07 |
gnomefreak | if all else fails ask :) | 08:10 |
gnomefreak | ill let you know the outcome | 08:11 |
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Ubulette_ | hmm, was i talking alone ? | 08:14 |
gnomefreak | i didnt see you talking | 08:16 |
gnomefreak | asac: ok tbird2 for feisty built on what version of nss nspr? | 08:21 |
Ubulette_ | <Ubulette> hi | 08:21 |
Ubulette_ | <Ubulette> oh, you experimented ppa | 08:21 |
Ubulette_ | <Ubulette> great | 08:21 |
Ubulette_ | <Ubulette> and with nss/nspr :) | 08:21 |
Ubulette_ | <Ubulette> there's a flaw though... | 08:21 |
Ubulette_ | <Ubulette> i need to rename both source pkgs as src endup in universe, and debs in main | 08:21 |
Ubulette_ | * Disconnected (Connection timed out). | 08:21 |
Ubulette_ | too bad ppa are limited to i386 and amd64 :( | 08:22 |
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gnomefreak | the names would need to be changed if officially released but not as of now | 08:22 |
Ubulette | look at the ppa, it's already messed up | 08:22 |
gnomefreak | Ubulette: it will be more important for next week since the uploads to PPA will be gone when PPA is released | 08:23 |
gnomefreak | Ubulette: im looking at it what is wrong with it? | 08:23 |
Ubulette | https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive | 08:24 |
gnomefreak | hmmmmm | 08:24 |
gnomefreak | why did debs end up in main | 08:24 |
Ubulette | there's main and universe | 08:24 |
Ubulette | i guess it's because of the name | 08:25 |
gnomefreak | i doubt it | 08:25 |
gnomefreak | how would name do it | 08:25 |
gnomefreak | i see it | 08:26 |
gnomefreak | i forgot to add universe/libs to the binaries when i changed it for source | 08:26 |
gnomefreak | Source: nspr-trunk | 08:26 |
gnomefreak | Section: universe/libs | 08:26 |
gnomefreak | ackage: libnspr4-0d | 08:26 |
gnomefreak | Section: libs | 08:26 |
Ubulette | oh | 08:27 |
gnomefreak | fixing it now | 08:27 |
asac_the_2n1 | Hi Ubulette | 08:29 |
Ubulette | asac_the_2n1, hi | 08:29 |
asac_the_2n1 | is the main / universe thing fixed now? | 08:30 |
asac_the_2n1 | i see them in universe | 08:30 |
Ubulette | btw, mozilla bug 393281 is a wontfix | 08:32 |
ubotu | Mozilla bug 393281 in HTML: Parser "blank page when visiting a page with a syntax error in it" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393281 | 08:33 |
gnomefreak | asac: it will bewhen im done | 08:34 |
asac_the_2n1 | Ubulette: yes ... appears to be non-trivial | 08:34 |
Ubulette | don't really care about this page, it's broken anyway. | 08:35 |
asac | :) | 08:36 |
Ubulette | went there as it's the "Seine" river crossing paris that overflowed (?) every century | 08:36 |
Ubulette | last time was in 1910.. and it's raining everyday | 08:36 |
Ubulette | getting close to the next flood... | 08:37 |
asac | well seine appears to be a really quite river then | 08:43 |
Ubulette | at the moment, yes ;) | 08:45 |
Ubulette | do you want me to push my nss/nspr trees to m-t ? | 08:46 |
asac | Ubulette: have i really been such a moron to push those branches to firefox instead of nspr and nss projects? | 08:50 |
asac | oh i haven't pushed them at alll ... yes please do | 08:50 |
Ubulette | ok | 08:50 |
Ubulette | what name should I give them ? | 08:51 |
Ubulette | i renamed all my branches as it was a mess | 08:51 |
asac | just ubuntu.trunk ? | 08:51 |
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asac | common practice is not to repeat the project name in the branch name | 08:51 |
gnomefreak | this is getting old | 08:52 |
gnomefreak | anyway nspr fix is uploading | 08:52 |
asac | so nspr.ubuntu.trunk is redundant because its maintained in the nspr project anyway | 08:52 |
Ubulette | would be nice to have project name as a 1st column on lp code. | 08:52 |
asac | same for nss | 08:52 |
asac | right ... for the way ubuntu uses it that might be better | 08:52 |
Ubulette | I know that but read the whole page.. you'll end up with several ubuntu.trunk | 08:52 |
gnomefreak | why do you come up with this stuff after i upload | 08:52 |
asac | but lp is designed for upstream projects as well ... which probably use a more distinct name | 08:52 |
asac | gnomefreak: he? | 08:53 |
gnomefreak | name not being right for what i can tell (i was disconnected for the first half) | 08:54 |
asac | gnomefreak: we could say that the upload today was an upload and deserves a changelog entry ... however, since it gets wiped anyway from ppa next week, we still have the option to just keep branch open without checkpointing the changelog entry | 08:54 |
gnomefreak | correct | 08:54 |
asac | gnomefreak: Ubulette wasn't here today when we did the upload | 08:54 |
asac | gnomefreak: if you want your changelog entry in, you could push as well | 08:54 |
asac | i am fine with any way ;) | 08:54 |
gnomefreak | i had to add changelog entries | 08:54 |
gnomefreak | that wasnt a choice i had | 08:55 |
Ubulette | ? | 08:55 |
asac | gnomefreak: you had to target the then topmost entry | 08:55 |
asac | it was still set to UNRELEASED | 08:55 |
Ubulette | why did had to add anything ? | 08:55 |
Ubulette | oh | 08:55 |
gnomefreak | i set them both to gutsy i thought | 08:55 |
asac | yes you should have just documented all in the currentl UNRELEASED changelog entry ... which exists to fill it up during development | 08:55 |
Ubulette | ppa is not supposed to end up in gutsy, right ? | 08:56 |
asac | then on upload you close that dev cycle by committing it with distribution you upload to | 08:56 |
asac | Ubulette: what do you mean? | 08:56 |
Ubulette | it's just populating a personal repo | 08:56 |
asac | yes | 08:56 |
gnomefreak | asac: that would have worked with first upload but none after that | 08:56 |
asac | gnomefreak: yes right | 08:56 |
asac | or maybe it would have worked | 08:56 |
gnomefreak | too late now that can be fixed next week | 08:56 |
asac | you would have to remove the .upload file and hope that launchpad didn't see the last upload | 08:56 |
gnomefreak | this week is pretty much play with it and see it work | 08:57 |
asac | yes ... so letss just push Ubulette's branch ... then do it proper next week ;) | 08:57 |
gnomefreak | right | 08:57 |
asac | e.g. add all changelog info ... target, commit upload | 08:57 |
asac | Ubulette: so just push your branches ;) | 08:57 |
asac | to mt | 08:58 |
Ubulette | i wanted to get rid of -trunk in src name (as it's not used in deb names)... | 08:58 |
asac | code | 08:58 |
asac | Ubulette: thats a bad idea | 08:58 |
asac | Ubulette: it will finally prevent us to have two versions in the archive at the same time | 08:58 |
Ubulette | current state is bad anyway | 08:58 |
gnomefreak | current state isnt bad afaict | 08:58 |
gnomefreak | what is bad about it | 08:58 |
asac | yes ... in fact its pretty good ... you can just upgrade to new libnspr and ffox2 still work | 08:59 |
Ubulette | section doesn't matter. better version will be prefered, no ? | 08:59 |
asac | what is better? | 08:59 |
asac | higher? | 08:59 |
Ubulette | y | 08:59 |
asac | then yes. | 08:59 |
asac | until we upload to real universe this isn't a big problem ... isn't it? | 09:00 |
Ubulette | right | 09:00 |
asac | and then we can maybe trick apt by just using a lower version :) | 09:00 |
gnomefreak | everything atm are little changes to make nothing big | 09:00 |
asac | and making firefox-trunk/paradiso directly depend on that lib with = | 09:00 |
Ubulette | hmm | 09:01 |
asac | Ubulette: no idea if apt-get will downgrade the lib though when you explicitly install firefox-granparadiso | 09:01 |
asac | but i thin it will | 09:01 |
asac | only open point is how gnome-app-insatll will behave | 09:01 |
asac | will it always remove paradiso? | 09:01 |
asac | on each and every upgrade? | 09:01 |
asac | thats an open point to figure out | 09:01 |
gnomefreak | shit | 09:02 |
gnomefreak | oh nevermind | 09:03 |
Ubulette | I really think it's too early for next week. | 09:03 |
gnomefreak | not really it works fairly well | 09:03 |
asac | Ubulette: what is too early for next week? what happens next week? | 09:04 |
Ubulette | so far, it seems ff2 and ff3 are happy, what about other stuff using those two ? | 09:04 |
asac | Ubulette: new libnspr and libnss should not break abi as you know :) | 09:04 |
asac | otherwise its upstream grave bug we should communicate | 09:04 |
gnomefreak | fairly well == as expected | 09:04 |
asac | gnomefreak: what did you test? | 09:04 |
gnomefreak | asac: what did i test? | 09:05 |
asac | 21:03 < gnomefreak> not really it works fairly well | 09:05 |
asac | 21:04 < gnomefreak> fairly well == as expected | 09:05 |
gnomefreak | PPA | 09:05 |
asac | ah | 09:05 |
Ubulette | though it was a tribe thing... maybe not | 09:05 |
Ubulette | t | 09:05 |
Ubulette | thought | 09:05 |
asac | what has tribe todo with what we try in ppa ? | 09:06 |
asac | or do you mean we should upload trunk packages for real next week already? | 09:06 |
gnomefreak | they are uploaded waiting for build to start | 09:08 |
Ubulette | ppa is okay as it's isolated anyway (now and later too). tribe is different, i think we're not ready for system nss/nspr in ff or ff-gp | 09:08 |
Ubulette | needs to be tested 1st | 09:08 |
Ubulette | as moz guys will probably get mad at us if we do that for ff2 | 09:09 |
Ubulette | -as+and | 09:10 |
asac | Ubulette: right ... needs evaluation + discussion | 09:11 |
asac | but in ppa we can do initial evaluation and see how it works out | 09:11 |
asac | Ubulette: we use system nss/nspr for firefox2 already (but maybe i just misread) | 09:12 |
Ubulette | yes but not cvstag ones | 09:13 |
Ubulette | i mean, e use released ones | 09:13 |
Ubulette | we | 09:13 |
asac | right ... but universe is something unsupported and if users only get that when the explicitly want paradiso then this might be okay | 09:13 |
asac | given that after removing paradiso all cleansup automatically | 09:14 |
asac | but i see the point | 09:14 |
asac | and i am at least as concerned about that as you are ;) | 09:14 |
asac | (i hope) | 09:14 |
Ubulette | :) | 09:14 |
Ubulette | hmm, ftbs for trunk today. | 09:21 |
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Ubulette | hmm, ftbs for trunk today. | 09:21 |
Ubulette | bz390451_master_password_lost.patch has been rejected. Seems committed, at last :) | 09:21 |
Ubulette | I'll give it a try | 09:21 |
gnomefreak | hmmmmm they dont even have a source tarball for 2.0 | 09:22 |
Ubulette | ? | 09:24 |
gnomefreak | asac_the_2n1: why doesnt mozilla release source tarballs with nightlys? | 09:25 |
Ubulette | I do :) | 09:26 |
gnomefreak | how do you make a source tarball without the source | 09:27 |
gnomefreak | need upstream source to make upstream source tarball | 09:27 |
Ubulette | I fetch cvs | 09:27 |
gnomefreak | ah that is one way | 09:27 |
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asac | yeah | 09:44 |
asac | better don't look back | 09:44 |
asac | you will run away in tears | 09:44 |
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Ubulette | asac, did you open a bug for installer_shouldnt_skip_strip_if_disable_strip_configured ? | 09:47 |
asac | where? | 09:50 |
asac | upstream? | 09:50 |
asac | no i wanted to submit a good patch right upon opening the bug | 09:50 |
Ubulette | feel free :) | 09:54 |
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shirish | Ubulette: any update on today's build & do you guys have that PPA now? | 10:21 |
Ubulette | hi | 10:22 |
Ubulette | <Ubulette> hmm, ftbs for trunk today. | 10:22 |
Ubulette | <Ubulette> bz390451_master_password_lost.patch has been rejected. Seems committed, at last :) | 10:22 |
Ubulette | rebuilding now | 10:22 |
Ubulette | lol | 10:22 |
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shirish | asac, asac_the_2n1 Ubulette anybody has any idea when today's build would be out? | 10:51 |
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Ubulette | 2nd try: | 10:52 |
Ubulette | <Ubulette> <Ubulette> hmm, ftbs for trunk today. | 10:52 |
Ubulette | <Ubulette> <Ubulette> bz390451_master_password_lost.patch has been rejected. Seems committed, at last :) | 10:52 |
Ubulette | <Ubulette> rebuilding now | 10:52 |
Ubulette | should be done soon | 10:52 |
Ubulette | shirish, got my answer for pidgin ? | 10:53 |
shirish | Ubulette, yup about the monotone, I had played with monotone | 10:53 |
shirish | the only problem or stuff is you need to make a database before, a little bit of groundwork, not too hard but also not so easy for noobs | 10:54 |
shirish | in that respect svn is very noob-friendly. | 10:54 |
Ubulette | as i said, it's not something my bot is ready for. maybe later | 10:56 |
Ubulette | I'll think about it but if it's only for 1 project, I'm not sure | 10:56 |
Ubulette | btw, I've modify my mini dists, ddebs are now fully integrated | 10:57 |
Ubulette | -y+ied | 10:57 |
shirish | Ubulette,: understood, would be looking forward for that, it would be very nice if it also understood montone :) | 10:57 |
shirish | ah, cool | 10:57 |
Ubulette | trunk built.. pushing to repo | 10:58 |
Ubulette | 3.0a8pre+cvs20070823t1203+bbot | 10:58 |
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shirish | Ubulette: thanx | 10:59 |
Ubulette | done in 3562 sec | 11:01 |
Ubulette | woow. 1h | 11:01 |
shirish | wtf adium is not in the repos, isn't it one of the good ones (multi-protocol IM) apart from pidgin? | 11:03 |
shirish | ubotu Adium | 11:04 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about adium - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 11:04 |
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shirish | bah, me bad it seems Adium is a good IM but only for Macs :( | 11:08 |
Ubulette | lol | 11:08 |
shirish | http://www.adiumx.com/blog/2007/05/pidgin-200.php | 11:09 |
shirish | there is also centericq but the interface isn't appealing at all, guess have to struggle on pidgin in reduced functionality way as well as on xchat | 11:10 |
Ubulette | i kind of like xchat | 11:11 |
bnovc | looking for an irc or aim client | 11:11 |
shirish | bnovc: looking for multi-protocol IM client, like pidgin, pidgin has been behaving badly after some updates | 11:12 |
bnovc | shirish: i see. what kind of problems in pidgin? | 11:12 |
shirish | bnovc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/134347 | 11:12 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 134347 in pidgin "[Gutsy] pidgin doesn't shutdown gracefully" [Undecided,New] | 11:12 |
shirish | as well as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/134366 mores serious than the other. | 11:13 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 134366 in pidgin "[Gutsy] Pidgin freezes" [Undecided,New] | 11:13 |
asac | shirish: why would one shutdown pidgin? | 11:13 |
asac | ok | 11:13 |
shirish | asac: shutdown as in quit I meant | 11:13 |
asac | for me it works well | 11:13 |
asac | should be protocol specific | 11:13 |
asac | have you tried to not use some protocols to see? | 11:13 |
asac | or maybe you have some spurious extension enabled? | 11:13 |
shirish | asac: no all by the book, I did do pidgin-dbgsym maybe that could be the reason? | 11:14 |
bnovc | pidgin works really well for me | 11:14 |
bnovc | asac: sorry i kind of disappeared after asking about helping earlier this week, got more busy than i expected but will try to contribute something this wkend | 11:14 |
asac | no problem :) | 11:15 |
asac | do as much as you can do | 11:15 |
shirish | does installing -dbgsym make the application more heavier (in a sense they get called all the time) or only when one uses gdb or something like that? | 11:15 |
asac | not more ... otherwise your contribution is more likely to not last long :) | 11:15 |
shirish | asac: any ideas? | 11:16 |
asac | ... howevr .. some contribution is needed to let you feel the fun of all this ;) | 11:16 |
asac | shirish: only when you run with debug | 11:17 |
asac | shirish: its not that the mozillla is build with --enable-debug ... which would make things slower as more checks are performed and debug output is dumped to console | 11:17 |
asac | but with just dbgsym installed ... shouldn't make a difference | 11:17 |
shirish | asac: then have no idea, both these bugs were happening before but as a one off thing, but now consistently. :( | 11:18 |
asac | maybe just coincident | 11:19 |
shirish | asac: the pidgin --d I did deliberately so could catch whatever was happening, after it didn't respond 3-4 times in a same/similar fashion. Then used -d flag/swithc | 11:19 |
shirish | switch | 11:19 |
asac | i really have no idea about pidgin | 11:20 |
asac | only thing i can say is that you should try to disable all extensions you use | 11:20 |
asac | and if that doesn't help try t disable accounts until you find the problem | 11:20 |
shirish | asac: will try, maybe i can isolate the problem area, but not right now, its 3 a.m. maybe tomorrow morning with a strong cup of chai/tea ;) | 11:21 |
shirish | take care everybody, asac Ubulette bnovc | 11:21 |
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asac_the_2n1 | Ubulette: still awake? | 12:29 |
asac_the_2n1 | asac_the_2n1: just wondered if you managed to do a simple make install with trunk xulrunner ... so we can evaluate upstreams intentions | 12:30 |
Ubulette | with trunk ? not yet | 12:42 |
asac_the_2n1 | ok | 12:50 |
Ubulette | in fact, i can as i've already prepared both the chroot and orig.tgz | 01:11 |
asac | Ubulette: just take a glance how the structure produced by current upstream make install looks like ... so not even a to really package it ;) | 01:14 |
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