[02:09] <cornell> Hi tgm4883
[02:09] <cornell> or ... HI tgm4883_laptop
[02:09] <cornell> ;-)
[02:11] <superm1> troy_s, did you see the xubuntu usplash recently?
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> hi cornell
[02:15] <cornell> Got a cable plugged into the ASUS card.  I can see it Watch TV, but no sound ;-(
[02:15] <cornell> Can't seem to switch to the hauppage card.
[02:17] <tgm4883_laptop> watching live tv?
[02:17] <cornell> Right.
[02:17] <tgm4883_laptop> are you using the guide or just changing channels?
[02:17] <cornell> And I've  no sound when watching recordings.  (previously recorded)
[02:17] <cornell> Using the remote to change channels
[02:19] <cornell> Also tried the ssh -X doesn't seem to work.
[02:19] <cornell> uh-oh
[02:19] <cornell> live tv just froze
[02:19] <tgm4883_laptop> use the guide and select a channel
[02:20] <cornell> my ssh (normal) isn't responding :-(
[02:21] <cornell> rebooted
[02:22] <cornell> Logged in as me
[02:22] <cornell> Started frontend
[02:23] <cornell> master backend isn't running
[02:23] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, what are your two tuners again
[02:24] <cornell> Starting frontend again... cannont connect to backend...
[02:24] <cornell> Dang... every step forward, two back :-(
[02:24] <cornell> Hauppage 350 and ASUS
[02:24] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, well start the backend from the script
[02:25] <cornell> Did
[02:25] <cornell> No error messages
[02:25] <cornell> then started frontend... can't connect
[02:25] <tgm4883_laptop> and it's still not started?
[02:26] <cornell> ps aux says it's running.  Before frontend said it wasn't running.  Now it says it can't connect
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> so it's running or not?
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> what does the log say?
[02:29] <cornell> It's running, according to egrep, and the terminal that started it.  Where's it's log?
[02:29] <cornell> Or mysql's log?
[02:29] <cornell> ls -la
[02:29] <cornell> Sorry
[02:29] <cornell>  /var/log ?
[02:30] <tgm4883_laptop> mythtv backend log?
[02:30] <cornell> Found mythtv and mysql directories in /var/log, is that them?
[02:30] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[02:31] <tgm4883_laptop> /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[02:32] <cornell> At 1730 it finished recording that 70's show... who told it to do that?
[02:33] <cornell> Um... log ... last thing it says is New DB connection (1), connected to data base 'mythconverg' at host local host, running as the master server.  Then two other New DB connection's connected to database 'mythconverg' at host localhost.
[02:34] <cornell> before that Some comments about liveTV recording, when I was switching about.  You'd suggested changing channels
[02:36] <cornell> Just for g&g, I started mythtv-setup.  Window came up asking if it's ok to close the backend process.
[02:36] <cornell> ;-)
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> nothing looks out of the ordinary
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> want to pastebin say the last 100 lines?
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> !pastebin
[02:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:38] <cornell> Just the last 100? and may I use my pastebin?
[02:39] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[02:39] <tgm4883_laptop> use pastebin for that
[02:40] <cornell> http://cornell.pastebin.com/m29fdd398
[02:40] <cornell> bbiab, the little one needs me
[02:43] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, you want to take a  look at this?
[02:44] <superm1> umm.
[02:44] <tgm4883_laptop> if your busy thats cool
[02:44] <superm1> never seen such things prior
[02:44] <superm1> i'm at a loss for an answer here
[02:45] <tgm4883_laptop> lolthats what I said
[02:52] <cornell> I'm special that way...  My problems aren't normal ;-(
[02:52] <superm1> cornell, what tuner?
[02:52] <cornell> I'm guessing that would be the ASUS.
[02:53] <tgm4883_laptop> and a 350
[02:53] <cornell> And I'm wondering if the 1730 entries are from when I tried switching the cards, some one had said the Y or C cards.
[02:54] <cornell> Yes, I've a 350.  Last evening, myth switched from the hauppauge to the ASUS.
[02:54] <superm1> so which one is /dev/video0 theren?
[02:54] <superm1> then
[02:54] <cornell> Don't know why.  It was right after I installed the lircrc.
[02:54] <superm1> and perhaps didt they accidently flip
[02:55] <cornell> I'm thinking that video0 is 350...  lspci doesn't say.  How else can I confirm
[02:56] <cornell> lspci --> http://cornell.pastebin.com/m1abc104c
[02:57] <cornell> Can't start mythtv-setup...  Won't run with backend running.  Won't kill the backend, there isn't one running.
[02:57] <cornell> ;-(
[02:58] <cornell> Rebooting
[02:59] <superm1> well dmesg shows you likely
[02:59] <superm1> which is which
[02:59] <cornell> k
[03:01] <cornell> from dmesg:Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350, card #0
[03:01] <cornell> Is that what we want?
[03:04] <cornell> ps aux shows two backend entries, one the egrep and one /usr/bin/mythbackend belonging to mythtv.  So backend is running
[03:05] <cornell> mmmm
[03:05] <cornell> ?????
[03:06] <cornell> mythtv-setup started... looking at capture cards... /dev/video2 is card type MPEG-2encoder card (PVR-x50, etc...  Probed info: ASUS PVR-416
[03:06] <cornell> That don't sound right
[03:08] <cornell> video0 is card type Analog V4L capture card... probed info Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350
[03:09] <cornell> Shouldn't the card type match the probed info?
[03:09] <superm1> well i'm wondering if you are hitting the annoyance
[03:09] <superm1> of them switching back and forth
[03:10] <superm1> experiment by rebooting 2 or 3 more times
[03:10] <superm1> and see if they show up the same
[03:10] <cornell> Well but... um...  ok.
[03:11] <cornell> Now, backing out, it says, twice, card 0 (type ) is set to start on channel 2, which does not exist.  Do you want to fix these problems.
[03:11] <cornell> Yes or no?   Just hit no and go ahead and reboot?
[03:11] <superm1> well don't mind those problems.  if the cards are set wrong
[03:11] <cornell> K
[03:11] <superm1> because your just going to reboot and come back in to look again
[03:13] <cornell> Want to see the dmesg?
[03:15] <cornell> Ok.... now  video0 card type Analog V4L capture card, probed ASUS, video 2 card type MPEG-2 (PVR-x50, probed.... ASUS
[03:16] <cornell> And, from dmesg: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350, card #0
[03:17] <superm1> okay so same as last time around
[03:17] <cornell> Rebooting
[03:19] <cornell> BTW, I went into mysql manually before, seeing it the users got screwed up.  select * from user.  There's an entry, forget the user, but the domain is some domain I've never heard of.  That doesn't seem right.
[03:19] <superm1> debian-sys-main?
[03:20] <superm1> debian-sys-maint
[03:20] <cornell> No...  I saw that one, figured it was ok
[03:20] <superm1> Yea it is
[03:21] <cornell> pgasus.imbrandon.com
[03:21] <cornell> And it's root !
[03:21] <superm1> as a user?
[03:21] <cornell> In the user table
[03:22] <superm1> that was from the build host
[03:22] <superm1> i have no idea how thta would have gotten in though?
[03:22] <cornell> Looks like the password's mine, so they can't get in with it.
[03:23] <cornell> video0 is Analog V4L, Hauppauge, video2 is MPEG PVR x50, ASUS
[03:23] <cornell> SHould I just delete these and create them again?
[03:23] <superm1> well just set the type of them appropriately
[03:23] <superm1> dont need to delete them
[03:24] <cornell> Ok... recollection says that the ASUS is an Analog V4L SO I'll set that
[03:25] <cornell> video device video2, Audio device /dev/dsp
[03:25] <cornell> Audio sampling None (?)
[03:25] <cornell> Default input Tuner1
[03:25] <cornell> VBI device empty
[03:25] <cornell> Sound right?
[03:25] <superm1> just make sure it matches the autoprobe
[03:25] <jams> superm1-  good work with the lirc-generator  it's an easy way to get started with new remotes
[03:26] <superm1> jams, you gave it a shot?
[03:26] <jams> a quick one, but yeah i did look at it
[03:26] <cornell> Audio sampling rate of none?
[03:27] <superm1> jams, yea that's the goal for it.  its not meant to be a permanent solution for the problem currently, but until the standardized namespace is done
[03:27] <superm1> it will do the trick
[03:27] <jams> i see you even added the options i was goint to suggest =)
[03:27] <superm1> to turn on and off different apps?
[03:27] <jams>  -l and -L
[03:27] <superm1> ah
[03:27] <cornell> Ok, changed.  Try watching TV?
[03:28] <superm1> yup cornell
[03:28] <superm1> hopefully better this time round
[03:28] <jams> i almost overwrote my own configs
[03:28] <superm1> well that's why it renames the old ones
[03:28] <cornell> Same messages about card 0 (type ) si set to start on Channel 2
[03:28] <superm1> go back in and make sure channel 2 exists then
[03:29] <jams> it's good work
[03:29] <jams> also glad it's in python =)
[03:29] <superm1> yea, i've started to really like python
[03:29] <jams> far to many apps are tainted by perl
[03:29] <superm1> since thats all i've coded this summer in
[03:29] <cornell> COuld not connect to the master backed server
[03:29] <superm1> that's what the control centre and the live autostart are too
[03:29] <cornell> :-(
[03:29] <superm1> cornell, check and see if it started in the backend log again
[03:29] <superm1> and if not why
[03:30] <jams> live autostart?
[03:30] <superm1> jams, its an app for configuring a mythbuntu frontend to run off a cd, but its able to save settings to a flash drive
[03:30] <superm1> so your "live frontend" can start immediately
[03:30] <jams> ah
[03:30] <superm1> if you plug the flash drive in
[03:31] <cornell> Looks like, superm1, Three DB connections, first one says starting up as the master server.
[03:31] <superm1> cornell, then try the fe again
[03:31] <cornell> k
[03:33] <cornell> Ok... terminal says trying to connect to backend server: 192.168.1.27, timed out. ummm it's timing out in .001 second.  Isn't that kind of quick?
[03:33] <superm1> did your ip change?
[03:35] <cornell> Me...nope  Same Ip.  (already did an ifconfig.  mmm I was going to say ipcop agrees, but I can't connect to it :-(
[03:36] <superm1> well nmap your ip the (192.168.1.27)
[03:36] <superm1> and make sure the backend is listening on it
[03:36] <cornell> Ah... nonstandard port...
[03:37] <cornell> nmap my ip?
[03:37] <superm1> you changed the port?
[03:37] <superm1> apt-get install nmap
[03:37] <superm1> and then nmap IP
[03:38] <superm1> shows ports open
[03:38] <cornell> No... ipcop... the web console, doesn't use 80.  ipcop says mythtv's on 27 also.
[03:38] <cornell> It also seems I've some uninvited guests.
[03:38] <cornell> But ipcop config's anotherquestion.
[03:39] <superm1> try restarting the frontend process?
[03:39] <superm1> perhaps
[03:39] <cornell> ok...nmap 192.168.1.27... Not shown 1695 closed ports.. ssh open http open.  That's it
[03:40] <superm1> so no mythtv on it
[03:40] <superm1> did you change the port number
[03:40] <superm1> or did you change its listening behavior
[03:40] <cornell> Did not change any mythtv ports
[03:40] <superm1> double check them
[03:40] <cornell> Actually\, haven't changed any ports
[03:40] <superm1> in the general page
[03:40] <superm1> because if nmap is saying its not listening
[03:40] <superm1> but the backend log shows it running
[03:40] <superm1> that is the most logical place to look
[03:42] <cornell> Happen to be in mythtv-setup... host address backend setup, ip addresses are right, explicit, server runs on port 6543, shows status on 6544, port master runs on 6543
[03:45] <tgm4883_laptop> how do you download a file over ssh?
[03:45] <superm1> well maybe you've gone mad then?
[03:45] <superm1> i mean you have been speaking to tgm4883_laptop a lot haven't you?
[03:46] <superm1> :)
[03:46] <superm1> tgm4883, sftp or scp
[03:46] <cornell> My input connections all list none?
[03:46] <cornell> superm1: do the ports look right?
[03:46] <superm1> yes those are right
[03:46] <superm1> cornell, you do need to set input connections
[03:46] <cornell> Thought so... perhaps changing the capture cards lost the connections
[03:47] <cornell> Scan of for channels or Fetch channels from listings source...  Don't do either?
[03:48] <superm1> zap2it right?
[03:48] <superm1> fetch
[03:48] <cornell> Right, ok
[03:49] <cornell> Umm.... how do I press the button?  HIghlight and press enter?
[03:50] <superm1> space maybe?
[03:50] <cornell> Shouldn't it be saying something?
[03:50] <superm1> not neces
[03:50] <cornell> Highlight and space... tried that.
[03:50] <superm1> could show up in the terminal behind
[03:50] <cornell> How do I know it's done?
[03:50] <superm1> you'll have channels there :)
[03:51] <cornell> Where
[03:51] <cornell> Starting channel?
[03:52] <cornell> FInished there (I think) went to channel editor... channels are there.
[03:54] <cornell> SHould I scan them?
[03:54] <superm1> no need
[03:54] <superm1> should be good to go now
[03:55] <cornell> oooh... lots of card 0 etc messages.
[03:56] <cornell> I'm not running mythfilldatabase
[03:57] <cornell> Watch tv... black screen
[03:58] <superm1> plug in the cable?
[03:59] <cornell> Black screen which takes a long time to get out of.
[03:59] <cornell> Yes, at least it was
[04:02] <cornell> Yup
[04:03] <cornell> Well... gotta go
[04:04] <cornell> Thanks much for your help...
[04:04] <cornell> Perhaps, tomorrow, I should just try installing again.
[04:04] <cornell> What do you think?
[04:04] <cornell> And, if so, from livecd or alternate?
[04:04] <superm1> well if you try installing again
[04:04] <superm1> i say wait ~1 week
[04:05] <superm1> because we'll have a brand new alpha out
[04:05] <superm1> with schedules direct support
[04:05] <cornell> k
[04:05] <superm1> and a few other fun things
[04:05] <cornell> Schedules direct support?
[04:05] <superm1> www.schedulesdirect.org
[04:06] <cornell> Replacement for Zap2it?
[04:07] <cornell> (registrations closed)
[04:07] <cornell> ;-(
[04:07] <superm1> yes
[04:10] <cornell> Tell me when I can register ;-)
[04:10] <cornell> TTFN
[04:10] <cornell> NIght all
[04:10] <cornell> And thanks much
[04:10] <cornell> And you think re-install might be a good idea?
[04:11] <cornell> LIvecd or alternate?
[04:11] <cornell> in a week
[04:12] <superm1> well if yo udont solve this by then
[04:12] <superm1> won't hurt
[04:12] <superm1> but we'll chat more tomororw
[04:12] <superm1> or so
[04:16] <superm1> troy_s, did you see this recently? http://evalicious.com/xubuntu.png
[05:54] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, were you able to build the iso today now that the kernel can be updated?
[05:54] <superm1> Yes
[05:54] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[05:54] <superm1> ubiquity is a mess though
[05:54] <superm1> i've spent most of the day on it
[05:54] <tgm4883_laptop> not sweet
[05:54] <superm1> fixed most of it
[05:55] <superm1> but there is still a big annoyance left with it
[05:55] <superm1> that you can't disable pages anymore
[05:55] <superm1> with the way things changed upstream
[05:55] <superm1> or at least i can't find a good way to do it
[05:55] <tgm4883_laptop> well let me know when i need to start seeding alpha 4
[05:55] <superm1> well 0.20.2 needs to be released first :)
[05:55] <tgm4883_laptop> oh yea :)
[05:55] <tgm4883_laptop> i forgot
[05:57] <tgm4883_laptop> hopefully i will get my wireless and sound back after this update
[05:58] <superm1> i haven't updated my laptop yet to it
[05:58] <superm1> i'm a bit wary to do so right now
[05:58] <superm1> because of all these other things that need to be pushed up yet
[05:58] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, holding off on production systems is a good thing
[05:59] <tgm4883_laptop> I just use my laptop for work, nothing important :)
[06:02] <superm1> oh crap.  i've got some work to do tonight too
[06:02] <superm1> man i wish there were more hours in a day
[06:02] <superm1> i really wanted to have this ubiquity stuff sorted out
[09:45] <pretender> im getting the sound pausing or choppy every 30 second or so mythtv can anyone help.    Im running sempron 3000+ 512 ram and a nvidia 5200 with a pvr 150 tuner
[01:09] <cornell_work> Morning all
[01:11] <cornell_2> Morning all
[01:12] <cornell_2> DaveMorris...  I worked some more on it, with the help of tgm4883 and superm1.  And it's going bad to worse.  They helped me go through the settings and did manage to help get my backend back to running properly, well connecting to it anyway.
[01:13] <cornell_2> I'm thinking of just re-installing.  superm1 suggested waiting a bit, apparently there's a new alpha scheduled for next week.  I'm thinking maybe I should go ahead if just for the practice.
[01:14] <cornell_2> And wondering if I should use the livecd or alternate cd.
[01:14] <cornell_2> Any opinions, anyone?
[01:31] <romern> hello,
[01:34] <romern> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 LTS, need to know if i need to install again a new ubuntu 6.06 using the same CD to setup MythTV?
[01:34] <laga> um
[01:34] <laga> why?
[01:37] <romern> according to documentations it seems, am confused.
[01:37] <laga> why would you have to reinstall?
[01:40] <romern> I'm not sure but the instructions seem to point to another install. Shall I just proceed to install mythTV with 1st Installation?
[01:41] <laga> sure. although ubuntu 6.06 comes with an old version of mythtv
[01:46] <romern> thanks anyway
 troy_s, did you see this recently? http://evalicious.com/xubuntu.png
[04:28] <troy_s> Yeah I did.  Overkill tacky.
[04:42] <DaveMorris> superm1: mythbuntu uses fluxbox dosent it, how big is this compared to xfce?
[04:42] <laga> it uses openbox
[04:43] <troy_s> Hrm... didn't know that.  Interesting.
[04:43] <DaveMorris> openbox then, you know what the size difference is?
[04:44] <laga> DaveMorris: use apt-cache show to find out
[04:44] <DaveMorris> I was just thinking if we had room for xfce instead of openbox it'll feel more like Gnome - which IMO more ubuntu users are used to
[04:44] <laga> bah
[04:45] <laga> personally i wouldn't care
[04:47] <troy_s> DaveMorris: What was the decision to go with openbox over fluxbox?
[04:47] <DaveMorris> I joined after they had already chosen openbox
[04:47] <troy_s> Or laga on that.
[04:48] <tgm4883> It does bug me that I have to double click on the things on the desktop when it looks like I should have to single click
[04:49] <laga> tgm4883: that should be easy to fix
[04:50] <tgm4883> laga, other than that, it's functionality is fine
[04:50] <tgm4883> i think it's the mouse pointer
[04:50] <tgm4883> for the record, I prefer the double click
[04:51] <tgm4883> it's the little things like that, the mouse pointer turns to a hand and I feel I should have to single click
[05:20] <cornell_2> No opinions about installing livecd versus alternate cd?
[05:21] <laga> if you don't know the difference it won't matter i suppose
[05:32] <tgm4883> i think i prefer the alternate cd
[05:33] <cornell_2> Well, I kinda used the livecd, got screwed up, probably because I interrupted in the middle ;-)  And there's a nice wiki page going step wise through the alternate CD.
[05:34] <tgm4883> well if your going to use the guide, use the cd that comes with it.  I prefer the alternate cd just because I don't need the live env during install
[05:59] <hugolp> hi
[05:59] <hugolp> can anybody tell me wheres the txt file created in the mythtv instalation with the pasword?
[05:59] <laga>  /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[06:00] <laga> if you have to change it, use sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[06:00] <hugolp> thanks laga
[06:04] <tgm4883> laga, you should give a warning with that.  If you do things like that instead of manually changing text files, they tend to work correctly
[06:04] <laga> tgm4883: that sucks, huh?
[06:05] <tgm4883> ye
[06:05] <tgm4883> yep
[06:05] <tgm4883> It just doesn't feel like it's mine unless I break it
[06:05] <laga> heh
[06:53] <cornell_2> Well... tgm4883, in that case... my mythtv is definitely mine... cause it be broke
[07:18] <tgm4883> that superm1 is sneaky
[07:27] <laga> blah
[12:36] <cornell> Well... installing from the livecd, again.  For practice ;-)