[01:10] 2 questions [01:10] how do i tab in emacs? [01:11] pressing tab does nothing [01:11] and how do i tell emacs that i'm writting c++ code? [01:11] no idea, never touched the thing. [01:11] huge GNU that thing is. Intimidating. [01:11] hehe ok [01:11] found an emacs channel [01:11] yeah i agree [01:12] but i don't think i'll fully understand programming till i understand compiling more [01:12] the lower the level the more i'll learn i think [01:12] so, use vim or scite. Much simpler text editors, with all the power you need. [01:13] true [01:13] but so many people recommend emacs [01:14] really? [01:14] im +1 to scite [01:14] and nano is nice [01:15] cool [01:15] for quick config editing and mousepad is good for copying from or something that needs a lot of scrolling [01:15] i do like wscite === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.3.28] has left #xubuntu [] [01:16] nano is like mousepad. Simple and pleasant. Also not for code. [01:16] lol PHUCK THAT [01:16] scite it is [01:16] i forgot about all those commands lol!! [01:18] i said [01:18] nano is good for config editing === pcfascist [n=pcfascis@74-33-84-241.dr01.jrdn.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:18] nothing about coding [01:19] you did? ok. :( [01:19] I still like SciTE for that better. Has highlighting. === T` [n=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-20-85.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === expose [n=nobody@82.139.196.236] has joined #xubuntu [01:54] Totally off-topic, but i just had to share this gem: "The lady was using a power strip to plug her computer and other devices into. Windows was completely frozen, and she was unable to shut down the machine by using the power button. She mentioned the power strip, so I told her to flip it off. She said, "Ok, I gave it the finger. I feel better."" [01:54] lol [01:54] I'll go back into lurkhood now :-)) === kekk follows === Jester45 points Balaams_Miracle to #xubuntu-offtopic incase he didnt know about it === Balaams_Miracle didn't know about it yet, now he does :-) === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] Something on-topic then, is there a way to get my numlock turned on by default? Because doing it manually (or forgetting to do it) is getting very boring.... [02:00] indeed, was just wondering that earlier [02:03] My BIOS turns it on by default, but once the Linux kernel boots, it turns it off. [02:05] And therein, my friend lies the problem. Once the OS is booted and ready for use, it's off. So i want the not do that anymore, if possible :-) [02:06] no idea [02:06] there is an app to turn on the number lock === djupp [n=djupp@84-72-101-182.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [02:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock [02:08] That seems rather silly to me, an app to turn a setting (numlock) on after Linux has turned it off bny default. IMO, all that's needed is change the default behaviour [02:08] Ah, thankjs. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === Balaams_Miracle cna't tpye. [02:10] unlike windows, linux does not allow itself to be spoon-fed junk from the system bios [02:11] vidd, i know. But i would at least expect to be able to change the default numlock status from within Xfce. [02:12] just follow the guide i gave ya [02:14] This is silly. If this setting can be changed from within Gnome (without the need to install anything extra!), why can't it be changed from within Xfce? [02:14] !latex [02:14] tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX [02:15] because xfce != gnome [02:16] besides (i think) gnome comes with numlockx [02:17] If it does, then the guide is very flawed. Why try installing an app if it should already be present on the system? [02:18] i dont use gnome, so im not 100% sure === rhavenn [n=rhavenn@byte-inet.bytenetworking.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:18] and xubuntu does NOT have numlockx by default [02:19] my ubuntu doesn't have it [02:20] then i have no idea how gnome turns the numlock on === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [02:35] can i assign a hotkey to my xfce applications menu like how the windows button launches the start menu in windows? [02:36] yup... [02:36] applications -> settings -> keyboard settings [02:37] go in the shortcuts tab, and add a new "theme" [02:37] hmm ok i'll try it === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu [02:38] crap [02:38] so how would i find the file for the application menu [02:39] its.. the xfce menu === rathel_ [n=rathel@c-24-9-186-226.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:46] zials: YOUKNOW WHERE I CAN FIND THAT? [02:46] sorry about the caps [02:46] what's the matter? [02:46] it should be on your panel [02:47] if not, you can add it [02:47] right click panel -> add new item -> select "xfce menu" from the list [02:47] he wanted a keyboard shortcut for it, no? [02:47] [ctrl] [esc] should bring it up [02:47] it's already ^Esc [02:48] yeah [02:48] never managed to get it to respond to just Super though. [02:48] i already have the applications menu [02:48] is something not showing in the menu? [02:48] i'm in the keyboard settings menu [02:48] i want to press a button to get the applications dropdown list to show up [02:48] yea, go in the shortcuts tab [02:49] but when i try to add a key in the shortcuts tab [02:49] it tells me to browse for an application [02:49] It never works with just one button. Works with two though. (^Esc) [02:49] yea, so in the "themes" box, click "add" at the bottom [02:49] i want to open the applications menu [02:49] im there [02:49] now, the list of shortcuts should be accessible, right? [02:50] Regarding shortcuts, why doesn't '/bin/bash' work with Ctrl+Alt+T? [02:50] no [02:50] it browses for files [02:50] kekk: try `Terminal`. [02:50] no dice [02:50] Mine has xfce4-popup-menu already mapped to Control+Escape [02:51] oh, I got it now, thanks cellofellow [02:51] kekk: I have Terminal mapped to ^M-t. (^ is ctrl, M is menta, alt.) [02:51] meta* [02:51] menta? [02:51] meta? [02:52] oh, ok [02:52] the Meta key is on normal PC keyboards Alt. [02:52] It's on other layouts a different name. [02:52] yep, I get it [02:52] Just comes from the UNIX background of the softwares. [02:53] ^M-Home opens Thunar at my ~/ dir. [02:53] well, I'm gonna go zone out for a little while. === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-124.mammothnetworks.com] has left #xubuntu [] [02:53] hmm, when I try to map the xfce4-popup-menu and press the super, it shortcuts it to super+super_l.. [02:54] zials: http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6596/screenshotbb4.png [02:55] laserbeak43 - you input "xfce4-popup-menu" for the applications menu shortcut [02:55] you'll see that its already mapped to control + escape [02:56] laserbeak43, can you help me with beryl? I don't have desktop icons nor can't find a way to change the background picture [02:56] once you hit "ok" it'll ask you to hit the key that you want to assign the command to... [02:57] zials: cool [02:57] thanks [02:57] \damn [02:57] the windows icon wont work [02:57] i wanted to makeit usefull [02:57] kekk: [02:57] i really dont know what to tell you [02:57] ok, no problem [02:58] all i did was install it from synaptic [02:58] and it worked [02:58] mhmm, do you have a menu key? (some keyboards have it next to the windows key) [02:58] although [02:58] i know if you download icon files(i dont know how or where) [02:58] i know you can load them into beryl [02:58] i'll look for the option [02:58] oh yes [02:58] no, no need to, I'll try to find it myself [02:59] zials: you mean the right click key? [02:59] does that do nothing in linux? [02:59] see if it does anything o.o [02:59] you sure? [02:59] nah it isnt doing anything [02:59] u sure kekk? [03:00] yep, laserbeak43 [03:00] yea, the right-click one, its what I use... never found a use for it (my windows keys are set to compose key) === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:04] kekk: settings manager>general settings>main tab>icon option> browse button [03:04] zials: thanks a lot :) [03:04] no problem ;) [03:05] thanks, laserbeak43, I'll try that [03:06] hmm doesnt seem to work unless the mouse is hovered over the taskbar [03:06] oh well you cant have it all.... [03:07] I don't find the option O.o [03:07] what version you using? [03:07] did you know that beryl is obsolete? [03:07] it's been replaced [03:07] compiz-fusion, yeah === laserbeak43 is too lazy to find the updated software [03:07] yeah that's it [03:07] I actually just wanted to try it out [03:08] i'm gonna remove beryl and get compiz-fusion [03:09] I didn't think I would be able to get 3d stuff on my machine but I'm happy I got it working :) [03:09] yeah :) [03:09] it's suprisingly easy on the system [03:10] too bad my laptop is too sucky and can't have any 3d stuff :( [03:10] and it's 4 am so I'm gonna hit the sack, night === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B96C8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] night === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu [03:18] zials: re 8 hours ago, I tried gparted from the xubuntu alternate cd, but it still didn't see any partitions [03:19] o.o [03:19] do you think the gparted live cd would give better results? [03:20] always a possibility [03:20] homa_rano, what are you trying to do? [03:21] vidd: I have a laptop that I'm trying to set up double booting windows and xubuntu, but gparted on the livecd sees the drive as all unallocated space, despite "sudo fdisk -l" correctly seeing the 4 partitions [03:22] when you ran gparted on the alt cd... did you choose "manually configure partitions"? [03:23] yes, it too did not see any partitions [03:23] yet I can still run windows on its partition, and windows sees the blank one I'm leaving for xubuntu [03:26] i dunno [03:27] it's a tad frustrating === Knightlust [n=dax@122.2.246.215] has joined #xubuntu [03:33] hmm, it seems this bug is known in gparted [03:33] and the gparted livecd doesn't have it [03:33] time to burn another cd-r! === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-124.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === tripppy [i=polarisx@c210-49-97-52.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === rici [n=rici@201.230.61.127] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-177-45.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === burner [n=burner@c-67-172-157-202.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === DocPheniX [n=im@ip72-198-216-11.om.om.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:35] so for some od reason [04:35] my machine would autopartition [04:35] but its kicking butt and taking names after manual partitioning [04:35] lol === riochico [n=ubuntu@p548200A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@11-165-89-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu [04:44] /leav [04:44] /leave === riochico [n=ubuntu@p548200A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #xubuntu [] === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.119.174] has joined #xubuntu === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-100-11.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:01] Need help to install my scanner! On Mandriva it was detected as some USB device but I had to pick up driver manually. But here nothing shows. How to see list of my USB devices in the system??? [05:02] i think lsusb [05:02] i will look [05:02] Jester45: yes === Jester45 is a good guesser [05:02] i figured it was ls* [05:03] wow [05:03] retour: there might possibly be some sane or xsane libraries you need to install, its something i believe mandriva installs by default [05:03] i never noticed i got like 8 things [05:03] lol [05:04] Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04a5:2040 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) Prisa 620UT. Ok it returned this now how to manually pick driver for it? I have Xsane installed but it quits with error [05:05] retour: honestly sane devices are a pain to configure most times .... i am trying to think of a front end for its configuration [05:06] hmm it wasnt under Mandriva? It gave me detected device and option to go with manual config - all with good graphic hmm wizard [05:06] should I install everything I find related to scanners and scanning? === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-254-209.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD is now known as The-Kernel [05:09] retour: well, you might need to install a sane library that works with your scanner ... i would search google for the make and model of your scanner along with the keyword sane or xsane [05:11] thanks a million maxamillion! === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.200.101.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.200.101.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has left #xubuntu [] === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.119.174] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B979E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-100-11.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-100-11.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-100-11.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === ThatLazyGuy [n=DaLazyGu@pool-151-205-125-166.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:28] how can i change the default program that opens zip files === pcfascist [n=pcfascis@74-33-84-241.dr01.jrdn.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu === The_Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-254-209.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-124.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:29] I had a question that I totally forgot. [07:30] oh, yes. Which is faster, a 12x DVD drive, or a 40x CD drive? === laserbeak43 [n=laserbea@c-69-243-81-81.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === dev1 [n=ilyas@213.179.235.139] has joined #xubuntu [08:24] Hi all! I need to configure xubuntu-desktop and then deploy it on many pcs. The question is: howto close all xfce setting (right click on panel, etc) from users? [08:24] Or there is a tool like Kiosk for KDE? [08:27] dev1: i have no true idea, but i'm assuming that you could create a custom user or there already is a user with very restricted privelages? [08:29] personal bin dir for example? === Ben_Cs [n=chatzill@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [08:29] hello [08:30] my comp (feisty) today stopped loading gnome. installed xfce - loads fine. gnome still wont load. weird no? same files/resources. still xfce loads and gnome doesnt... [08:30] ??? === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu [08:38] dev1: no idea... [08:38] but i'm sure it can be done [08:38] Ben_Cs: pretty weird yeah [08:39] most of my software is gnome based [08:39] what does terminal say when you try to load gnome? [08:41] well, gdm loads fine. [08:41] then after logging in [08:41] stuck on beige screen, with white small square in cornel [08:43] damn gnome. will run kde and xfce instead then [08:44] laserbeak43: the annoing thing about xfce is that it's empty on xubuntu install and it's feature full on Ubuntu install and then xubuntu-desktop install. [08:44] it's like: it gets all the nice things only from gnome... [08:46] heh [08:47] Ben_Cs: that sucks... sorry to hear that, unfortunately i'm too much of a newb to be of any real help [08:47] speaking of being a noob [08:47] codeblocks is frozen [08:48] and when i run 'kill codeblocks' i get a message saying 'bash: kill: codeblocks: arguments must be process or job IDs' but i forgot how to veiw the processes [08:49] ahh the process manager :P [08:50] hm === Ben_Cs [n=chatzill@212.150.114.161] has left #xubuntu [] === jaxon_ [n=jaxon@221.127.202.182] has joined #xubuntu === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-58-30.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === jaxon__ [n=jaxon@221.127.201.238] has joined #xubuntu === Akuma_ [n=martin@218.81.96.141] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === Sulle [n=sulle@ti511210a080-10257.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === grumpymole [n=warren@c211-28-135-80.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === faemir [n=faemir@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === mecannotread [n=josef@202.93.40.230] has joined #xubuntu === mynyml [n=martin@218.81.96.141] has joined #xubuntu === mynyml [n=martin@218.81.96.141] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@11-165-89-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === mecannotread [n=josef@202.93.40.230] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-58-30.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === cy__ [n=dont@unaffiliated/cy/x-000000001] has joined #xubuntu [11:52] hello [11:52] hello, i installed ubuntu feisty yesterday.. now i want the terminus bitmap font within konsole (kde terminal) .. but i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1864eb81 .. anyone know how to solve this? === hhlp [n=hhlp@232.Red-81-35-155.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === loswillios [n=hbt@unaffiliated/loswillios] has joined #xubuntu [12:23] hi [12:24] I have a question regarding the windows-key (super-key) [12:24] I want to call the xfce-menu with it [12:26] but everytime I configure it in xfce-settings, it becomes Super+Super_L [12:26] and doesn't work. === ciro314 [n=chatzill@43.Red-83-41-53.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu [01:05] i installed ubuntu feisty yesterday.. now i want the terminus bitmap font within konsole (kde terminal) .. but i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1864eb81 .. anyone know how to solve this? === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-142-136.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-244-197-227.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-244-197-227.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === ubuntu [n=jl@221.126.91.117] has joined #xubuntu === ubuntu [n=jl@221.126.91.117] has left #xubuntu [] === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-244-197-227.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp183-185.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === voln [n=voln@ppp85-141-229-252.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === asriazh [n=asriazh@p57A8DFB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@217-159-183-194-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === pcfascist [n=pcfascis@74-33-84-241.dr01.jrdn.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu === MagicFab [n=MagicFab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === Pres-Gas [n=PresGas@74-130-18-146.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === Thunderman [n=phillip@cs135209.pp.htv.fi] has joined #xubuntu [04:24] Hi, can I install Xubuntu with floppys :D [04:26] heh.. xfce isn't that lightweight :P === laserbeak43 [n=laserbea@c-69-243-81-81.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === xBill [n=dario@p5494CCB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Thunderman [n=phillip@cs135209.pp.htv.fi] has joined #xubuntu [04:39] Can I install Xubuntu with floppys? [04:43] Thunderman: no, there's no supported way to do that. [04:43] maybe with a floppy and an internet connection [04:43] but dont ask me how to do that... [04:44] I have also internet connection so is it possible? :) [04:44] the xubuntu install image is almost 700mb. you would need tons of floppies. [04:44] If I just boot it wih floppy and then download from internet [04:44] Thunderman: i take it that the computer you have doesn't have a cdrom drive? [04:45] I have CD-RW drive but i can't copy files [04:45] i would take the hard drive that you want to install to, put it in a more capable computer... [04:45] Now I have Debian (GNome) wich is too heavy for my computer [04:46] ... install xubuntu onto it there, and then put it in the regular computer you're going to use. [04:46] Thunderman: so don't use gnome? you can easily install xfce on debian too... [04:46] How? :) [04:46] or fluxbox, or a zillion other lightweight window managers [04:46] apt-get install xfce4 ? [04:46] pleia2: yeah, that would work. [04:47] apt-get install xfce4 [04:47] It's now downloading it [04:47] :) [04:47] Thanks :) === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-121-24.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === Thunderman [n=phillip@cs135209.pp.htv.fi] has joined #xubuntu [04:53] It's still a Gnome :/ [04:53] Thunderman: when you log in, did you choose xfce from the gdm login screen? [04:53] I forget where you choose, "session" or something [04:53] No I didn't :D [04:54] So Ctrl + Alt + Backspace? [04:54] a simple logout will bring you back === faemir [n=faemir@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Thunderman [n=phillip@cs135209.pp.htv.fi] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:02] Now I'm using XFCE === tlc [n=scu77@211.109.58.77] has joined #xubuntu === tlc [n=scu77@211.109.58.77] has left #xubuntu [] [05:03] Thunderman: great! fluxbox is nice too if you find xfce too heavy [05:04] I saw that there is also "Metalitiy" and "WMfe" or something like that [05:04] THey could be more lighter than this :/ But is the Fluxbow and openbox so pretty than XFCE, Gnome and KDE? :D [05:06] windomaker isn't bad either, but no, not as pretty as xfce, gnome and kde :) [05:06] Of course i want also pretty, not just Light ;) === test3r [n=tester@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:08] So what's the ~ time until they release 7.1 ??? I noticed it's in v.Tribee4 now === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-243-61-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu [05:10] test3r: in october [05:10] that's why it's called 7.10 [05:11] is there a way to preload openoffice with xubuntu somehow? === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177962068.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [05:18] Yeah just make a custom bootable disk. also dont forget to redo your manifest === Balaams_Miracle [n=balaam@g175073.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #xubuntu [05:26] I almost forgot I have some other irc clients to test out - bb === michaelpo [n=presario@60.53.35.82] has joined #xubuntu === test3r [n=test3r@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:32] nice. i got xchat up and going. === ubuntu [n=jl@221.127.203.28] has joined #xubuntu === ubuntu [n=jl@221.127.203.28] has left #xubuntu [] [05:35] I tried to change sources list (/etc/apt/sources.list) but it was write protected, how could I install nVidia legacy drivers? === michaelpo [n=presario@60.53.35.82] has left #xubuntu [] === test3r [n=test3r@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === test3r [n=test3r@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:41] holy niceness batman! it looks ALOT like mirc [05:43] much much better than stupid gaim. seems lightweight. === WaxyFresh [i=WaxyFres@204.181.128.27] has joined #xubuntu [05:44] i need a link to a netboot floppy for xuuntu,please? [05:45] hmmm id help you out, but ive never heard of a boot floppy for *buntu. [05:46] :( [05:46] doesnt mean it doesnt exist, though. Good luck! [05:46] ANY method that dosent need a cd? [05:47] !install [05:47] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate [05:48] sup sheep =) [05:50] I could install ubuntu and then download XFCE and then install nVidia legacy drivers easily? === DocPheniX [n=im@ip72-198-216-11.om.om.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === cy__ [n=dont@unaffiliated/cy/x-000000001] has left #xubuntu ["DIIEDIEDIEDIE"] [05:57] thats not a nice quit msg === KlrSpz [n=johng@66-193-248-206.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:59] ok so i read you can install xubuntu-desktop and get the xubuntu pkgs, but synaptic is saying it doens' texist [05:59] KlrSpz > you prob have to change your repos === loswillios [n=hbt@unaffiliated/loswillios] has left #xubuntu [] [06:04] hrrmm [06:05] If you have an existing Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Edubuntu installation, it is possible to install Xubuntu and retain your current installation. To do so, just go into Synaptic (or Adept if you use Kubuntu) and install the xubuntu-desktop package. There you are! Next time you login, you can choose Xubuntu from the Session menu on the login screen. [06:05] doesn't say anything about repos [06:07] !info xubuntu-desktop [06:07] xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.29 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB [06:08] ? wtf does that mean [06:09] KlrSpz: that means that the xubuntu-desktop package is in the main repository for feisty and is not installed by default [06:09] yeah, but it's not finding it when i search for it, and select "All Available Applications" [06:09] KlrSpz: use synaptic [06:10] KlrSpz: not that funny application installer === M_42 [n=chatzill@h201.233.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:10] Does anyone here know how to force a LCD to turn its blacklight off? [06:11] thought that was synaptic [06:11] how do i get to that? [06:11] oh nm voudn it === M_42 [n=chatzill@h201.233.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has left #xubuntu [] === KlrSpz [n=johng@66-193-248-206.static.twtelecom.net] has left #xubuntu [] [06:36] So - when you are changing distros like KlrSpz was, there, and he's coming from another Desk Manager, is that part of the steps he found online, probably? Because when he reboots he's gana have to dump to TTY and hak a file, yes? [06:38] err, you can choose which desktop environment to log on to in kdm/gdm? or what do you mean? [06:39] Well - I'm saying after he has two installed, after installing the xubunu-desk pack, he will have to tell GDM (probably) to switch itself off and tell kernel to use XFCE raw instead, Im guessing. [06:40] I wonder how one switches over the desk manager [06:41] buncha poop if u ask me he should gut it and start with 704 live cd hahahahaha [06:41] 704 xubuntu i mean [06:46] why switch gdm off? [06:46] xubuntu uses gdm [06:47] OK! I forgot. So maybe the setting is in GDM itself . You could tell GDM to use the xubuntu-desktop instead of what it Was using perhaps (the Ubuntu desk core which I forgot what its called) [06:48] Yeah, the session can be chosen there in the logon screen === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu [06:49] oh wow!!!!!!!!! that shows up in There, huh? Neato. on my laptop I pimped out my login screen, changed the icon next to the prompt box and added a sound even [06:49] all with the auto-menu thats inside of Applications. it was quick painless. === Eagle_101 [i=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu [06:50] Very slick. Windows doesn't have anything I've found that lets you alter their login screen. They prefer to have their logo prominently displayed I suppose === cheesebo1 [n=Home@71-87-214-16.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:05] hi [07:05] i need http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o but links dead [07:06] where else can i get it? === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu [07:15] cheesebo1 - I think vidd has it hosted at -> http://vidd.us/downloads/index.php?path=deb/ [07:17] thank you === kek [n=kristjan@213-219-94-130-dsl.mus.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === kek is now known as kekk === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-124.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-111-73-224.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-124.mammothnetworks.com] has left #xubuntu [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === The_Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-246-115.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === KlrSpz [n=johng@66-193-248-206.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:16] anyone know of any decent docs about compiling the compiz-fusion from git on ubuntu? [08:17] http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=1985 === expose_ [n=nobody@82.139.196.236] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32 [n=Guest@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu === The_Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-246-115.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === The-Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-246-115.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === KlrSpz [n=johng@66-193-248-206.static.twtelecom.net] has left #xubuntu [] === _boogie_ [n=boogie@p548A0972.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === _boogie_ is now known as boogie === The_Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-254-96.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === boarder-winterma [n=boarder-@p508DCF77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === faemir [n=faemir@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.186.205] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === expose_ [n=nobody@82.139.196.236] has joined #xubuntu === moredhel [n=faemir@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Legendre [i=legendre@chef.nerp.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:25] hi hi.. which repo contains ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 ? [09:29] !ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 [09:29] hmm... 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After successfully installing ubuntu and upgrading and adding a whole bunch of apps, I realized I wanted to use xubuntu. I have installed xubuntu desktop and removed ubuntu-desktop, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to remove the rest of the gnome components [10:49] Anyone have any idea? If I try to remove gconf, for instance, it tells me that xubuntu-desktop uses it and it will be removed as well. [10:50] wouldn't it be easier to mark down what you added and do a new install of xubuntu? or is bandwith a problem? I don't have any more ideas, sorry [10:51] I guess that wouldn't be so bad - I guess I'll do that [10:52] Thanks for the help [10:52] heh, no problem [10:52] good luck === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL212-29.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #xubuntu === grumpymole [n=warren@c211-28-135-80.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-243-46-133.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL212-29.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === cheeseboy [n=greg@71-87-214-16.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === clefia [n=clefia@60.52.123.61] has joined #Xubuntu [12:28] how do i tell package to install depencies anyway? [12:28] Hi. I've just restarted Xubuntu 7.04 to find all my panels failing to load [12:29] pidgin: Depends: pidgin-data (>= 1:2.1.1) but it is not going to be installed [12:29] how i force it? [12:29] other than manually installing 1 by 1 === faemir [n=faemir@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-243-15-210.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu [12:33] how do I get my panels back? [12:34] i can't even open the panel settings via 'Settings Manager' === Balaams_Miracle [n=balaam@g175073.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #xubuntu === Eagle_101 [i=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] Why do I lose my Panels once in a while after restarting Xubuntu feisty? I can't start 'panel manager' === Eagle_101 [i=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu === The_Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-254-96.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === Eagle_101 is now known as eagle-101