=== ShackJack [n=nate@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === iblicf [n=iblicf@125.34.24.109] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:23] Anyone know when tribe 5 will be hitting the repos?... No lovin' on an aptitude full-upgrade... === voidmage [n=voidmage@r45h90.res.gatech.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === happytiger [n=happytig@2607ds3-fb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:36] ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection [01:36] ?? [01:36] Anyone [01:36] I do have restricted modules install [01:37] modprobe ip3945 just cant seem the the wirelss card anymore? [01:39] dmesg gives ...[ 42.320000] bridge-eth1: peer interface eth1 not found, will wait for it to come up === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fraction [n=frax@c-024de155.137-6-64736c13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:50] ick, apparmor breaks my printer === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ysth1 [n=ysth@67-42-107-226.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ion [n=ion@70-59-226-160.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:02] gah! X11 display corruption! evil! [02:03] this apparmor makes me nervous, secure is nice but I wanna do loads of tests before I use it on my servers === ajmorris_ [i=utkeaw@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jonathan__ [n=emet@c-24-127-196-82.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:12] AnRkey, Arwen: File bugs, that's why apparmour is turned on now; so you can find what breaks and tell us :) === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [i=ufyqyw@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Arwen [i=anon32@wikipedia/anon32] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:20] RAOF, i plan to do just that, I have 5 test machines at work. === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:23] Arwen: Excellent! [02:23] eh? [02:23] Whoops. s/Arwen/AnRkey/ [02:24] I'm having a little problem I just upgraded to gutsy and now I can't login to my OS, GTK+ is complaining about it running under setuid setgid [02:26] Arwen, just smile and wave :) [02:27] RAOF, you work on apparmour? === kylem [n=kyle@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === der0b [n=s0d_0ff@c-66-31-142-244.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:31] AnRkey: No, not at all. I just know that we've got it enabled so that people can knock the edges off it :) === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:32] when suse started with apparmour it broke allot of my servers at work [02:32] so thats why i say it makes me nervous [02:32] i will make sure to "knock the edges" right off :D === iblicf [n=iblicf@125.34.30.30] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:33] our box's are hit allot by script kiddies and my denyhosts daemon works overtime to block them === Arwen [i=anon32@wikipedia/anon32] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:33] if we get apparmour running nicely it will make my boss and me happier [02:33] If it breaks too much stuff it won't be enabled on release. Ideally, however, it'll be fixed so we can enable it. === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jpwhiting [n=jeremy@71-219-74-95.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:46] hi all, I've got a semi-broken gutsy install, and I'd like to switch back to the latest feisty kernel and nvidia-glx-new versions [02:46] is this possible? [02:47] eh, yes. Kind of,. [02:47] you could download the feisty debs and install them, or you could add feisty repositories and then set them to have a very low pin priority. [02:47] I come from gentoo a year or so ago and could build my own kernel if needed [02:47] or you could build your own kernel (probably the best answer here) [02:48] not sure I can build a kernel with initrd etc, like production ubuntu kernels though... [02:49] with gentoo I'd build monolithic ones and get the stuff in I need on like the 3rd or 4th try ;-) [02:50] which is fine with me, just wonder if it will get in ubuntu's way when gutsy is released... [02:50] I've never had much luck mixing production kernels with my own built ones... [02:50] bipolar: is that you? [02:51] Arwen: how hard is it to use the feisty repos with lower pin? [02:52] not that hard, but it's messy and not a good long-term solution [02:52] ah [02:52] pinning is explained somewhere in the debian manual [02:53] k, thx, I'll try that I think, as this should just be until gutsy is released I hope [02:53] bipolar: ping [02:54] Is ipw3945 broken??? with latest kernel ?? [02:55] jpwhiting: yo [02:55] bipolar: haven't seen you in ages [02:55] (you don't come to #kde4-devel much anymore... ) [02:55] I'm having a little problem I just upgraded to gutsy and now I can't login to my OS, GTK+ is complaining about it running setuid or setgid (from the .xsession-errors ) [02:55] jpwhiting: busy as a one armed paper hanger [02:56] (hope I don't get flamed for mentioning the "other" desktop in a ubuntu channel) [02:56] yeah [02:56] what can I do to fix it? [02:56] jpwhiting: i'm about 80% into a complete replacement of our I.T. infrastructure [02:56] ah, nice [02:56] I get a blueish screen and just the mouse [02:56] yeah, that explains it [02:56] jpwhiting: which include all linux workstations :) [02:57] running windows in vmware for 'legacy apps' [02:57] ah [02:57] we'll be windows free in a year [02:57] excellent [02:57] I've been working 16+ hour shifts for almost a week now. [02:58] I'm the only guy here :\ [02:58] can anyone please help me? :S [02:59] bipolar: at a school? or where? [02:59] that stinks I was an I.T. department before [02:59] for a small company [02:59] <15 employees [03:00] 16 workstations, plus home workers [03:00] ah === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:00] about 40 employees [03:01] what kind of company is it? [03:01] security [03:01] burg, fire, etc [03:01] cool [03:03] so the servers are mission critical, and must be fully redundant and up 24/7 [03:03] ah [03:03] raid and all that jazz then? [03:04] How about VMs with failover, and such? [03:04] jpwhiting: more then that. [03:05] well, yeah [03:05] :) [03:05] 2 servers, redundant power and raid. then drbd to mirror between them. [03:05] and heartbeat to failover services automaticly [03:05] ups and generator [03:06] even hot swap redundant fans === khoa [n=khoa@pool-68-163-24-185.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:07] any idea why i'm getting no SSL library found when trying to use pidgin under gutsy [03:07] i'm trying: "sudo apt-get install libnss-dev libnspr-dev" to fix this but both of these packages are not in the gutsy repository? [03:08] bipolar: crazy cool [03:09] anyway, nice to see ya again, it's bath time though, so I'll be away for a bit [03:09] furthermore, and kinda as another question, after updating tribe4->tribe4 today, by gnome version is still showing 2.19.6 is this correct? [03:10] yes' [03:13] jpwhiting: :) === klick [n=klick@ip72-213-209-245.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:14] hey all, can anyone tell me how to choose which services like apache pureftpd ircdd start at boot? I see services under system settings but it seems that only controls the current status not the boot status === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ysth1 [n=ysth@67-42-107-226.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === apples_ [n=xiaden@cpe-74-77-105-201.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === phil_pi [n=dphil@000-229-037.area3.spcsdns.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:26] trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy tribe 5, "update-manager -d" finds 0 updates. do i need to add gutsy repositories to the sources list? i recall doing that to upgrade breezy to dapper and dapper to feisty. === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === apples_ [n=xiaden@cpe-74-77-105-201.buffalo.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [03:27] phil_pi: maybe you need -c and -d both [03:28] tried that, still nothing [03:28] all it checks is the standard feisty repositories [03:29] I remember trying 2 or 3 different things before getting it to work, but that was quite a while ago [03:30] maybe --dist-upgrade too? [03:31] hmm, will try that and browse the man page [03:32] ok, that found packages suggested by ubuntu-desktop which isn't installed (17 new like bittorrent, evolution, etc.) [03:35] You need the latest version of the update-manager on feisty to upgrade to gutsy. [03:35] yup, got it === Kousotu [i=Invincib@adsl-68-79-20-236.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:35] i read somewhere that updates appear first for high priority customers === Ahadiel [n=Ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:36] might have been an interview with mark shuttleworth [03:37] phil_pi: when you're on gutsy, you'll be getting plenty of updates, plenty often :) [03:37] yes [03:37] was on feisty tribe 4 [03:38] seems like feisty updates slowed to a trickle when development of gutsy got serious [03:39] phil_pi: you can enable proposed updates [03:40] Toma-: you mean the feisty-proposed checkbox in update manager? [03:40] yes [03:41] tried that and got 10 updates to things like cdrecord [03:41] yes? [03:41] or backports if you want new versions of things === jkimball4 [n=jerrid@wsip-70-165-105-40.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:41] yeah, now i'm up to the bleeding edge of feisty ;) [03:41] backports ... hmm [03:43] Is it possible to use Beryl or Compiz themes through appearances preferences? [03:43] anyone got any ideas on how I could disablemy touchpad without affecting my mouse? [03:43] if all else fails i could do a fresh install from cd [03:45] phil_pi: no matter what switches you use, you don't get an option to upgrade distributions? [03:47] Kousotu: I know how to do it under KDE :/ [03:47] lol [03:47] know how to doi it fromthe core? === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:48] Kousotu: do an apt-get search for synaptics [03:48] you'll find what you're looking for there [03:48] gsynaptivs? [03:48] it gives an error === ion [n=ion@70-59-226-160.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === roe [n=roe___@216-164-160-36.c3-0.eas-ubr10.atw-eas.pa.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:50] what gives an error? [03:50] ysth1: right, i don't get the option to upgrade to a new distribution [03:52] phil_pi: is it possible you overlooked it for one of the variations of parameter? [03:53] sudo update-manager -c -d --dist-upgrade [03:54] g*d, python is ugly [03:54] (IMO) [03:54] maybe i'll burn a copy of the gutsy install cd and add it to the repositories with the "add cd" button [03:54] that might kick it into gear [03:56] wow fixed it by changing /etc/timezone [03:56] to Europe/Berlin [03:57] now dist-upgrade continued === AlinuxOS [n=alinux@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:59] ysth1: might learn python soon [03:59] phil_pi: are you running it with the flags and selecting Check? [04:00] yep === matysek [n=matysek@83.Red-81-39-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:00] nuthin happens [04:00] try with -p too? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:00] -p ? no man page available [04:01] --help lists a bunch of switches [04:01] -p --preprocessor string string indicates which preprocessors to run [04:02] update-manager --help [04:02] --proposed === jkimball4 [n=jerrid@wsip-70-165-105-40.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:03] there are no upgrades available for your system [04:04] "If you upgrade from feisty, please make sure that you have update-manager 0.59.23 from feisty-updates installed. Then run "update-manager -d". [04:04] Thats what the Tribe5 wiki page says === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:04] doesn't find the update [04:05] verified the version, tried all the flags [04:05] will try adding the install cd to the list of sources [04:05] I'd just go through the sources.list at this point. [04:06] sources.list is all feisty stuff [04:06] should i just change them to gutsy? [04:06] I think thats better than adding the CD [04:07] not sure what the correct path in the apt line should be for gutsy [04:10] anyone got any ideas on how I could disablemy touchpad without affecting my mouse? [04:11] Kousotu: the usual way to configure touchpad is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but I think there's a GUI gonfiguration tool you can install, available since feisty [04:12] they don't work [04:12] I tried them [04:12] ok [04:12] alogwith xorc [04:12] org* [04:12] phil_pi: This is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/f56c0dc01 === chrisle [n=chris@e178086221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:13] I guess it could be consolidated a little bit, but it works [04:13] great, that looks similar to a list posted on a forum thread [04:13] i'll add the lines for gutsy and leave feisty in there as well (for a first try) [04:14] phil_pi: sounds egdy :) [04:14] err, edgy [04:14] lol [04:16] to upgrade to gutsy on my machine the wiki page for tribe 5 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe5?action=edit) says to run update-manager -d [04:16] it finds nothing to update [04:17] i ran a sudo update-manager and it then finds it [04:17] gonna edit it [04:18] actually the lines for gutsy are the same as feisty, so i'll just replace the one word [04:18] I think sudo is assumed. phil_pi: were you sudoed? === vDub [n=michael@adsl-69-208-83-47.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:18] yes [04:19] i sudo for admin tasks === vDub [n=michael@adsl-69-208-83-47.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@129.120.244.105] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:20] can someone help me upgrade Ubuntu from 7.04 to the latest test version of 7.10? [04:21] the page doesn't offer much help. I tried to run the command update-manager -d like it said, but all it did was open the update manager and tell me my system was up-to-date [04:21] I can try [04:21] ok, that one I never figured out what to do about [04:21] vDub: working on that issue myself [04:21] *lol* [04:21] no luck yet === jpwhiting2 [n=chatzill@71-219-74-95.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:22] i just manually edited sources.list to change feisty to gutsy, about to try it === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:22] *shudder*, have fun [04:22] ok, I got nvidia kernel module and sound working with kernel from when I was on feisty [04:22] still says up to date [04:23] but X dies saying it can't load the nvidia kernel module... :( [04:23] though the nvidia kernel module is definitely loaded, lsmod shows it [04:23] do I need to somehow downgrade my X also... :( [04:24] I'll probably just remove 7.04 and install the test version of 7.10 instead. :-P [04:25] something's happening ... === ion [n=ion@70-59-226-160.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:25] i think i broke my wireless with today's kernel update =( [04:25] phil_pi - it work? === jpwhiting2 is now known as jpwhiting [04:26] it said it's up to date, but then i clicked the "check" button and it's downloading a new list of packages [04:26] taking a few minutes [04:26] phil_pi - if it works, let me know what all you did so I can repeat it. :-) [04:27] 586 updates available [04:27] phil_pi: up to date just means up to date as of last check === ^jonathan^ [n=emet@c-76-109-183-212.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:27] not all updates can be installed, it's recommending to run a partial upgrade [04:28] here goes nothing ....... [04:28] I managed to get something.. [04:28] nm... [04:28] wasn't what I was hoping for [04:28] does ubuntu support ppc still? [04:29] !ppc [04:29] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [04:29] we just handed out like 20 feisty cds at an activity fair, and we had a couple questions about ppc [04:30] vDub, here's what did it. edited /etc/apt/sources.list, replaced all feisty with gutsy, run the update-manager -c -d ... click on "check" button in GUI, it finds 586 updates [04:30] cool, thanks [04:30] about to try the partial upgrade & see what breaks :) [04:30] caveat emptor [04:30] "a community port" means *not* "fully supported"? [04:31] I gotta wait for these two updates to finish downloading and installing and then I'll go ahead and try that [04:31] ysth1, yes [04:31] it'sthe motherlode [04:31] too bad [04:31] better shut down apps like irc ... === phil_pi [n=dphil@000-229-037.area3.spcsdns.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ysth1 is sure there was a way to get update-manager to do it === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:33] won't be where there's a feisty to try on till Monday, though. === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.16.213] has joined #ubuntu+1 === roe_ [n=roe___@216-164-160-36.c3-0.eas-ubr10.atw-eas.pa.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:38] anyone else notice a high load average after the recent updates? [04:38] now that you mention it, yeah. My CPUs are hovering at 3-5% [04:39] oh wait, that's just aMule. Never mind. [04:39] I am idling at 2.0 load average, and I have everything but top, and xchat closed [04:39] I even turned off compiz, and just running metacity [04:39] (Metacity takes more CPU than Compiz :-)) [04:43] question: networking is broke in gutsy for me, so i went back to feisty. can i chroot update gutsy? === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:43] yes [04:44] "connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com...." and it never connects =( [04:44] or not === RAdams [n=ronadams@cpe-75-185-244-79.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:49] I need some help connecting my Palm Lifedrive via USB on Gusty Tribe 4 === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:56] this worked a week ago before I applied updates [04:57] anyone know if I can downgrade x package to previous version? === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF0D51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] jpwhiting: you can right click a package in synaptic and force a version [05:00] ugh, synaptic, haven't touched that thing in years === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] adept or aptitude? [05:01] plus I have no X at the moment... [05:01] aptitude or apt-get would be better... [05:01] jpwhiting, one moment... [05:01] !pinning | jpwhiting [05:01] jpwhiting: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto [05:02] jpwhiting, Can you connect to anything? [05:02] sure [05:02] I'm using another computer currently for irc, etc. [05:02] so I can go check out pinning [05:03] Jordan_U, beat me too it [05:03] *to [05:03] :P [05:03] jpwhiting, Try the Canadian mirror, the U.S. one is notoriously unreliable [05:03] why? [05:03] I use the us one all the time [05:03] and have no issues lately [05:04] if I hit anything I'll switch though [05:04] :) [05:04] jpwhiting, So do I, and it stops working for me a lot, and many times people will come into #ubuntu saying apt-get no longer works, they switch to the canadian mirror and no problems [05:06] jpwhiting, Oh, sorry, I was confusing you with pwnguin === masquerade [n=mirashii@c-71-200-21-140.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:07] :) [05:07] Well, this was an interesting round of kernel updates. === ysth1 waits patiently for -11 [05:09] ysth1, sounds like a good idea, it took some magic to get -10 working enough for me to even get on IRC === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:13] -10 worked just great for me, except for no sound === jdt [n=jdt@58.172.11.96] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:14] hi, I have noticed that when trying to start more than 2 firefox instances, it hangs. Does anyone else experience this? [05:14] ah, I have no idea what package to pin or anything [05:15] anyone else experienced nvidia drivers not working on latest kernel? [05:15] you can recreate what I am experiencing simply by starting 3 firefox's, Im just wondering whether I should consider filing a bug. [05:15] jpwhiting, I've heard a few cases lately [05:15] actually, maybe the nvidia driver isn't the problem, as sound also doesn't work either [05:15] jpwhiting: I have a NVidia Geforce Go 7700 card, not experiencing any troubles. [05:16] jdt: k [05:16] I have onboard ati video, and am using a 7300 GS pci-e card === vanberge [n=vanberge@c-71-205-77-31.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:16] I've had issues with this motherboard (busses, or something) before though... [05:17] jdt, no issues opening firefox 2,3,4 times [05:17] I personally didn't have any issues with my video, dunno if sound works yet, I had issues with networking and all kinds of other stuff at first but its been resolved [05:17] anyway, I have it close to working by telling grub to use the old kernel [05:17] can anyone tell me - on the gutzy alpha, is there a 'simple' way to enable restricted formats? i know with edgy they made it easier. i think i just had to check a box or something. [05:17] sound works, the nvidia driver loads, etc. [05:17] roe_: Thanks, seems like it must just be me then :) [05:17] Yeah, I have no sound. :) [05:18] but starting x doesn't work and Xorg.0.log just says it couldn't load the nvidia kernel module [05:18] I am experiencing a +2.0 average load continuously, for no apparent reason === RAdams [n=ronadams@cpe-75-185-244-79.cinci.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:18] roe_: does top show trackerd near the top? [05:18] I run kde, but had trackerd a nautilus file monitor using half my cpu the other day [05:19] my cpu is almost idle [05:19] oh, that is weird then [05:19] so is my diskusage, and my ram is onlyy 27% used [05:20] but my load average is 2.17 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:27] anyone know if it's safe to downgrade back to feisty? [05:27] i.e. replace gutsy with feisty in sources.lst, and update, dist-upgrade [05:27] or does that not work for some reason? [05:27] jpwhiting: I would expect major pain, but perhaps I'm a pessimist [05:29] jpwhiting: I dont think that would work but you could give it a shot. BACKUP first [05:29] :) of course [05:30] let us know how it works out [05:30] will do [05:30] might be a day or so, (lots to back up... :) [05:31] but if I can get this computer going again with the right drivers, etc. I'll be in heaven I think === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-102.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:37] Anyone sorted out the sound issues on -10 yet? === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF0D51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] might be a stupid obervation, but why would you be running gutsy on a machine with "lots to backup === IcemanV9 [n=jwvehrs@adsl-75-21-214-87.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] roe_: 1) music, 2) video, or 3) pr0n [05:38] ah, I forgot about 3 [05:39] everyone doesn't have a raid server for 3? [05:39] I mean...um, what pr0n [05:40] masquerade: I heard: TheInfinity: i know this prob from santa rosa platform, thats why i ask. and this bug is already reported, patches are out - i dont know why it is not updated until now === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1CEFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ameyer [n=cheesebo@adsl-75-49-219-179.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === michael [n=michael@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ahadiel [n=michael@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-165-173-119.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ahadiel [n=Ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:26] Where is the GUI for configuring X? [06:26] I can't find it =/ [06:26] (Tribe 5) === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ameyer is now known as binaryhermit === binaryhermit [n=cheesebo@adsl-75-49-219-179.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.23.61] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ameyer [n=cheesebo@adsl-75-49-219-179.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.23.61] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.23.61] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:47] hi all, no activity? [06:48] http://www.bash.org/?310390 [06:51] not at all [06:52] ;) [06:52] Ahadiel: i think you have to install it yourself. it's like diplayconfig-gtk or something [06:52] pwnguin, found it, and it was installed by default === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrsno [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs3-0-0-cust868.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnficca [n=johnficc@c-71-231-198-109.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:56] what is the right dpi for a screen that is 1024x768 [06:56] my dpi is set to 96 but the font on my window borders looks to small [06:57] and then its to big when I log out and then back in === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:01] man h264 playback is brutal on the cpu === se7en^Of^9 [n=se7enofn@125-24-155-216.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:02] it maxes out one of my cores =( [07:02] has anyone gotten sound working again? [07:03] mine wasn't working, then I unmuted it in alsamixer [07:05] hmm mine won't modprobe correctly === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.177.157] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === daurnimator [i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:18] name for next realease: http://www.thinginabag.com/images/content/ubuntu-hungry-hippo.jpg [07:19] Hahaha, that'd be wonderful [07:21] I'm now using an older Athlon XP laptop while my Core Duo laptop is being serviced. [07:22] I like some HP stuff, but somebody must've been drunk, or worse, when designing this thing. [07:22] It idles at 70 C, and upon load, it'll hit up to 87 or even 90 C. [07:22] Yet the fan doesn't turn on until 75. Crazy. 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[07:26] Bad default. === daurnimator [i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [07:33] Hmm, hwdb-gui freezes on 'video'. === PWill [n=paul@d149-67-61-247.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-88-221.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ahadiel [n=Ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chrisle [n=chris@e178069244.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088D787.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf141.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [i=mcwg@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emonkey-p [n=emonkey@adsl-84-227-48-163.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-88-221.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Assid [n=assid@unaffiliated/assid] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:24] hrmm [08:24] the new compiz package update seems a bit slower.. my benchmarks just fell === contrast83 [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:25] Greets, everyone... [08:25] Has anyone here had any success compiling Fusion from GIT on Gutsy? [08:26] contrast83: c-f is part of gutsy [08:27] Assid: I know, but using the packages gives me hard locks, which I never got when compiling on Feisty. [08:27] hrmm [08:28] I'd rather compile anyway, to be honest. More up-to-date. (Yes, I realize this isn't always necessarily a good thing. :-) [08:28] contrast83: [08:29] contrast83: Have you filed a bug? [08:29] ? [08:29] upto date ? your still using 0.52 [08:29] RAOF: No, because I wasn't sure how to get any useful information when it's hard-locking like that. [08:30] Assid: There's more to CF than core. ;-) [08:30] contrast83: Well, even filing a "it locks hard" bug can be useful, and developers can suggest ways to get useful info. === IcemanV9 [n=jwvehrs@adsl-75-21-214-87.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Christo] [08:31] contrast83: Also, hard locks sound like "I try to metacity --replace with the nvidia 100 series drivers, and it hard-locks" ;) [08:31] yeah.. everytime i get a crash.. i let it report.. the more bug reports they get the better the quality of the software with me [08:31] Assid: That's why you're running gutsy :) [08:31] sometimes if im doing nothing.. i try to crash it for the sake of it [08:31] rather do it when im doing nothing .. thjen when im doing something productive [08:32] RAOF: only thing i dont like.. is some reports are huge.. last coredump was 9.6MB :( [08:32] Soft! I've submitted a 200Mb core :P [08:32] dude.. i have a 128kbit connection during the day [08:33] RAOF: Nope, it just happens in the middle of doing hardly anything when CF is running. Nothing in particular seems to trigger it. [08:33] Ah. That's what the "reduced info" thing is for :) [08:33] didnt ask me this time [08:33] contrast83: Eh. You're the first person I've heard complain about that. [08:33] although i want to report a bug report this time.. i dont knwo what to do [08:33] contrast83: Ooooh... Browsing the internet with gnash? [08:34] the new update that got rolled out now.. the one with compiz seems to be mightly slow.. compiz benchmarks says 260fps.. normally i get 400 odd [08:34] contrast83: A handy hint is "Compiz + nvidia + any other opengl app = badness" [08:34] RAOF: I know. I've yet to find anyone else who's experienced it, which is another part of the reason I haven't filed a report... === Assid totally agrees with RAOF.. i cant run glxgears when compiz is running [08:35] contrast83: then vote for that bug.. [08:35] Assid: Xgl. It works around *all* of nvidias badness :) [08:35] RAOF: Ermm... CF + OpenGL apps haven't given me any problems at all, really. Some may not perform quite as well with CF running, but that's it - no crashes or anything. [08:35] RAOF: isnt xgl slower or something? [08:36] Assid: Faster, generally. [08:36] different people give me different views :( [08:37] RAOF: so why isnt xgl default? [08:37] Also, you should soon be able to install my new, improved (and actually buildable) xgl package, with bonus xsession files! [08:37] Assid: Because it breaks some stuff. Also, it's never been released. [08:37] Assid: And when I say "some stuff", basically what I mean is wine :( [08:37] never released ? so how do you use it? [08:37] *officially* released [08:37] Well, we take a snapshot of git. [08:37] hrmm i do use wine.. quite often [08:38] Assid: ATI, i assume? [08:38] It's still possible to use wine, it can just be a little more effort. [08:38] contrast83: nvidia 6600GT [08:38] RAOF: more effort ? [08:39] from my understanding, Xgl's mainly used on ati cards whose drivers don't allow for direct rendering under X [08:39] Assid: "DISPLAY=:0 wine " [08:39] contrast83: Some of that statement was correct :/ === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:39] RAOF: that being? [08:39] RAOF: why cant it default to the current display on its own? [08:40] Assid: Because the current display is actually :1 [08:40] contrast83: That Xgl is mainly used on ATI cards :) [08:40] err.. so why 0 then ? [08:40] Assid: Because Xgl is :1, and the underlying X server is :0. So you *can* run wine on the underlying X server, bypassing Xgl. === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:41] hrmm.. k [08:41] okay so what do i do.. im confused now === Assid ponders on whether to change th xgl [08:42] contrast83: So, for fglrx users, Xgl provides Composite & GL_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, using only the 3d accel that fglrx provides. [08:43] RAOF: i thought DRI was in there also (among Composite and GL_EXT_texture_from_pixmap)? [08:43] contrast83: For nvidia (or intel, or open-source ati, or whatever) users, Xgl provides *working* Composite & t_f_p ;) [08:43] contrast83: Nope. Xgl requires OpenGL acceleration, and in return makes everything else work. [08:43]