[01:18] <terlmann> does anyone like my submission for the gutsy backgrounds ?
[03:45] <alex-weej> NO
[11:25] <lapo> hi
[03:24] <lassegul> hi guys. im lassegullvgstrre2 from the wiki, posted early version of a thingy called borders, and working on a retrobuntu wp. Im wondering, are we having any succsess with getting a palette made?
[03:26] <lassegul> *for gutsy
[03:36] <kwwii> lassegul: I am working on defining a few colors as we speak
[03:36] <kwwii> lassegul: look at the pics at the top of the page, they define the colors pretty well
[03:37] <kwwii> brown, brown, brown, and a yellowish brown and orangish brown :-)
[03:38] <lassegul> i never knew that :)
[03:40] <lassegul> that damianvila guy is talented. I never liked that the colour themes got brighter from warty to edgy. His dark red brown thing is way cool
[03:46] <kwwii> yepp
[03:47] <troy_s> greets all
[03:47] <kwwii> btw...the defualt artwork is not really up to a vote
[03:47] <kwwii> just to clear that point p now ;-)
[03:47] <kwwii> hi troy_s
[03:49] <lassegul> yeah, I got thatb but I was hoping that we could get active enough to make that happen i gutsy+ (hungry hippo) tho.
[03:49] <kwwii> lassegul: but I intend to include any images that are liked well enough in a community wallpaper package
[03:49] <lassegul> kwwii: cool
[03:50] <troy_s> main problem is that apparently we can't even get off the ground running when there are two templates already to follow.
[03:50] <troy_s> there isn't a single image on that wiki that is even close to the breezy / hoary walls.
[03:51] <lassegul> troy_s: true. like the one with the mountains and the lame effects. But some of these just needs more work to  be good.
[03:52] <troy_s> well not if shuttle starts out of the gate with a distinct and very clear goal.
[03:52] <lassegul> troy_s: i dont follow...?
[03:52] <troy_s> and yes, quite frankly i am sick to death of fecking wallpapers that aren't anything more than plugin and canned effects.
[03:53] <troy_s> i could name five to ten art directors that would not only throw your resume in the garbage but also publically flog your work at the first sight of canned effects / plugin usage.
[03:54] <lassegul> troy_s: glass is half empty,eh?
[03:55] <troy_s> lassegul: Not at all.
[03:55] <lassegul> troy_s: could i send you a .png for feedback?
[03:56] <troy_s> lassegul: And what I was trying to get at is that kwwii very clearly states the goal at the top of the wiki page.
[03:56] <lassegul> something unique...
[03:56] <troy_s> lassegul: I believe that was handed down from 'on high' and that means that he was probably very particular with the request.
[03:56] <kwwii> hehe, even if I fscked up the names on the pics :p
[03:56] <troy_s> lassegul: You can send me whatever you wish.
[03:56] <troy_s> kwwii: Yeah lol.
[03:56] <kwwii> troy_s: funnier still is that I even tried to fix it once :p
[03:57] <lassegul> troy_s: youve got an email adress?
[03:58] <troy_s> kwwii: The good news is that you found both and published them
[03:58] <troy_s> kwwii: Although Dapper's wallpaper is simply shite compared to those two.
[03:59] <kwwii> yeah, I was thinking about removing it
[03:59] <kwwii> (and the file names)
[04:00] <troy_s> kwwii: JunkAssDesigns work or whatever his name is.  Chris?
[04:00] <lassegul> kwwii: i think the warty is a little flat but its colours are really something
[04:00] <kwwii> I only included it because it does have the right kind of colors
[04:00] <troy_s> kwwii: The damn colours are the only weak part in both of those.  Not so much the base, but the fact that shuttle is completely oblique on palettes.
[04:00] <kwwii> can't remember his name although I did meet him in person
[04:01] <troy_s> kwwii: I think it was Chris, but I can't be certain.
[04:05] <troy_s> kwwii: I think if you can sneak steal cheat a triplet or quad colour scheme into the mix with the brown as a base, we could call that a win.
[04:06] <troy_s> lassegul: you sending that?  i have a nasty bit of turnaround before call today (tomorrow)
[04:09] <kwwii> troy_s: not sure if adding anything other than browns/yellow/orange will be useful in creating a pic that will be accepted
[04:10] <troy_s> kwwii: More of the same then I assume.  It's a hideous state of affairs.
[04:12] <lassegul> troy_s: im sorry, im not a native english speaker. what do you mean?
[04:12] <troy_s> Ok.  Got to jet.  Out for now.
[04:12] <troy_s> night guys
[04:12] <elkbuntu> btw, my mother was annoyed that "the pretty tree thing with the logo snowflakes"(her words) wasn't an provided option, hehe
[04:12] <troy_s> (or morning)
[04:13] <lassegul> troy_s: bye
[04:13] <troy_s> elkbuntu: Largely because it is again -- more evocative.
[04:13] <elkbuntu> troy_s, yes. explain that to a user though
[04:13] <troy_s> elkbuntu: It is pretty easy to turn a mainstream user's attention simply by embracing something that communicates SOMETHING.
[04:14] <troy_s> elkbuntu: You don't need to -- your mainstream user will know those things.  As should anyone calling themselves a designer or what not.
[04:14] <troy_s> Once again, the cornerstones of all successful design:  Audience and Communication
[04:16] <lassegul> kwwii: whats the audience and what do we want to communicate?
[04:16] <lassegul> *who's
[04:17] <kwwii> the person who gets to pick the pic, so to speak is sabdfl
[04:17] <kwwii> and he knows exactly what he wants
[04:18] <kwwii> that is why I posted to the other pics, as he wants something along those lines
[04:21] <lassegul> kwwii: are you working on anything now?
[04:21] <kwwii> lassegul: yepp, I am working on several things (and several other projects)
[04:22] <lassegul> kwwii: ok. you have a worklog, portfolio or something?
[04:23] <kwwii> lassegul: of everything I have done artistically you mean?
[04:24] <lassegul> kwwii: no, ubuntu-wise. Ive obviously seen the edgy thing (which i presume you made?), but have you done any other ubuntu stuff that didnt go official?
[04:24] <kwwii> well, I have done several kubuntu releases
[04:24] <lassegul> im sorry for unclear english
[04:25] <kwwii> and I did feisty for ubuntu, not edgy
[04:25] <lassegul> kwwii for feisty? What did you do?
[04:25] <kwwii> pretty much everything
[04:26] <lassegul> the ubuntu logo at usplash is really nice. Thats the thing that really blew me off, just by adding a little backlight to it, looked great.
[04:27] <lassegul> blew me off is very wrong use of words
[04:28] <lassegul> anyways, if you made it, i just wanted to say, it looks great.
[04:38] <lassegul> kwwii: you know who made that ubuntu chocholate wp?
[04:39] <kwwii> lassegul: nope
[04:44] <lassegul> kwwii: but you dont like the one made by damianvila? I thought it was nice?
[04:45] <kwwii> I think it is nice too, but I do not think it has what it takes to be default
[04:48] <lassegul> but i thought this wasnt a contest for which wp that was going to be default?
[05:52] <nothlit> elkbuntu: theres an ubuntu pretty tree thing with falling CoF's?
[05:52] <elkbuntu> i cant remember what it was called. it was on the cd with dapper
[05:53] <elkbuntu> mum didnt like it when we reinstalled her machine with feisty and it wasnt there
[06:04] <lassegul> elkbuntu: think it was dawn of ubuntu? something like that...
[06:11] <elkbuntu> ah yes
[06:15] <nothlit> oh that one lol
[06:38] <jeromeg> hello
[06:39] <jeromeg> does someone know where I can find a higher resolution of the last wallpaper on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/GutsyIdeas ?
[06:46] <lassegul> I dont know, but all you have to do is find the photo, add some rippleeffect in Gimp, and add the logo, turn opacity to 20%, and with 3% opacity write ubuntu at the bottom. It practicly makes itself
[06:49] <lassegul> im having some trouble with inkscape. I have a fairly strong computer with a X2 4200+ CPU and 2 gig ram. But inkscape becomes terribly slow with just 10 transparent objects. And the export time is also really slow. anyone know anything about this?
[06:49] <jeromeg> lassegul: but I can't find the original picture :)
[06:49] <jeromeg> lassegul: I had this problem with compiz on
[06:50] <lassegul> jeromeg: i think im going to try out xara
[06:50] <jeromeg> lassegul: it's nice too
[06:50] <lassegul> jeromeg: that ranting above about it practicly makes itself was sarcasm, im sorry if i wasnt clear :)
[06:51] <jeromeg> lassegul: :)
[07:21] <lassegul> what do you guys think of the new borders on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/GutsyIdeas
[07:38] <nothlit> they don't look bad, i'd prefer something less generic :P
[07:46] <nothlit> lassegul: i think a more organic approach will work better with ubuntu
 im having some trouble with inkscape. I have a fairly strong computer with a X2 4200+ CPU and 2 gig ram. But inkscape becomes terribly slow with just 10 transparent objects. And the export time is also really slow. anyone know anything about this?
[10:46] <troy_s> lassegul: Yes -- compile from SVN and you will have that problem fixed.
[10:46] <troy_s> lassegul: Inkscape moves at a _tremendous_ pace -- there are many many features added from the last version.
[10:48] <troy_s> lassegul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HowToCompileInkscape
[10:49] <troy_s> lassegul: That should get you going down the path.
[12:22] <lapo> hi