[01:25] <cornell> Ok... first time, it crashed, tried again.  Seemed to go normally (left out second capture card (ASUS))
[01:28] <cornell> And it rebooted into myth fe !!
[01:29] <cornell> Hit watch tv, with the remote, it worked !!
[01:29] <cornell> Well... it's silent
[01:31] <superm1> cornell, great that it worked :)
[01:31] <superm1> figure out what is reason for it to be silent?
[01:32] <cornell> Well...  remote isn't working fully.
[01:32] <foxbuntu> superm1, how soon do you need that GTK theme bug fixed?
[01:33] <cornell> Before I address silence, I want to configure lvm, then load the db with my recordings
[01:33] <superm1> foxbuntu, if yo ucan this week
[01:33] <superm1> weekend
[01:33] <foxbuntu> superm1, I will give it a shot...tonight I am burnt out though
[01:34] <foxbuntu> got a paid day to go screw around...our team at work went out to Red Robin for lunch, then to some Nascar Sim thing at the big mall, then out bowling then out to the driving range
[01:34] <superm1> foxbuntu, also not addressed there the checkboxes need to be fixed too
[01:35] <foxbuntu> can you post a screen shot of what you mean? I don't have a VM up right now
[01:36] <cornell> superm1: Got a question... I'm looking at /var/lib/mythtv/recordings and there's an nfslockfile.lock.  When I configure the lvm, it will be mounted at /var/lib/mythtv.  It's recordings directory will ... supercede the actual one.  Will that cause trouble with the nfslockfile.lock?
[01:37] <superm1> foxbuntu, sure
[01:37] <superm1> No
[01:37] <superm1> cornell,
[01:37] <superm1> it will be made automatically again
[01:38] <superm1> foxbuntu, http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmythbuntuconteq1.png
[01:38] <cornell> But is something using it?  By stomping on it will something get... locked while unlocked?  i.e. can't lock cause it's unlocked, can't unlock cause it's locked?
[01:38] <superm1> stop the backend process before start
[01:38] <superm1> sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop
[01:38] <foxbuntu> superm1, what do you want them to be?
[01:38] <superm1> and things will be fine
[01:38] <superm1> foxbuntu, anything more readable
[01:38] <cornell> Me? stop backend?
[01:38] <superm1> yes cornell
[01:39] <superm1> cornell, before you mount the new LVM
[01:39] <foxbuntu> superm1, alright, I will come up with something
[01:39] <superm1> foxbuntu, but you see what i mean right?
[01:39] <foxbuntu> superm1, yeah, the colors are a little too close together
[01:39] <superm1> foxbuntu, maybe actually making a "check"
[01:39] <superm1> in the box
[01:39] <superm1> would work better
[01:40] <superm1> in addition to the light blue
[01:40] <superm1> i don't know
[01:40] <superm1> compare against how other gtk themes might do it for better ideas
[01:40] <superm1> but ideally going to generate alpha 4 early next week
[01:40] <foxbuntu> ok
[01:40] <superm1> one more thing in ubiquity needs fixing and mythtv 0.20.2 needs to come out
[01:40] <cornell> Presumably "start" will start it again, superm1
[01:40] <superm1> cornell, yea
[01:40] <foxbuntu> I can drop a check in pretty easy I think
[01:41] <foxbuntu> The background for firefix is going to be a little harder to track down
[01:41] <cornell> Can I delete the files in recordings?
[01:41] <foxbuntu> firefox*
[01:41] <superm1> tgm4883, did you end up needing them for some plugins of yours?
[01:41] <superm1> cornell, that's up to you :)
[01:42] <tgm4883> no, but I was reading on the cron page, aparrently it does some daily cleanup too
[01:42] <cornell> k, thanks, superm1
[01:42] <superm1> tgm4883, interesting.
[01:42] <tgm4883> it shouldn't be too much of a problem as I can do 1 daily cron job from my control panel
[01:43] <tgm4883> but it's supposed to be set to access cron.php as a web browser and thats what im asking my host right now
[01:44] <cornell> mmm lvm not found,  apt-get install lvm2, right?
[01:44] <tgm4883> i did end up intragrating gallery2 into drupal though
[01:44] <superm1> cornell, sounds right
[01:44] <superm1> tgm4883, how's it work/look?
[01:44] <superm1> well?
[01:44] <tgm4883> superm1, well, we'll see when I get it configured more
[01:44] <tgm4883> it wasn't too much setup though
[01:45] <cornell> oopos, should do sudo apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade first, right?
[01:45] <tgm4883> you do have to setup both drupal and gallery2 fully, then integrate them with a drupal module
[01:45] <tgm4883> and 2 databases
[01:45] <superm1> cornell, i wouldn't worry about that right this moment
[01:45] <superm1> there will be tons of updates
[01:45] <cornell> k
[01:45] <superm1> make sure $things are working for you as is
[01:46] <superm1> tgm4883, so what is the advantage of gallery2 over the image module?
[01:46] <foxbuntu> well superm1 I am off to be uber lazy, as I feel like I got the crap knocked out of me today
[01:46] <foxbuntu> catch you later
[01:46] <superm1> k
[01:48] <tgm4883> superm1, not really sure yet, i assume more powerful features, but I was going to setup a test case on both and see which works better for me
[01:49] <tgm4883> I did see this, and it doesn't list that many more features.  As long as I can do what I want with the built in image module I will go with it, I just wanted to be ready for the test
[01:49] <tgm4883> http://drupal.org/node/65599
[01:51] <cornell> Ok... lvm vgcfgrestore worked... pvscan shows the pv's, vgscan says it found it.  What's it called?  I'm trying /dev/vg, nada
[01:51] <superm1> try /dev/mapper/*
[01:51] <superm1> and you might need to activate it using vgchange
[01:52] <cornell> Ah... vgchange
[01:54] <cornell> Did that... Complains about no entry for device-mapper, ending with 0 logical volumes in volume group now active
[01:54] <cornell> lvscan now shows inactive /dev/vg/myth
[01:55] <cornell> It also complains of /proc/misc: No entry device-mapper
[01:56] <marC-->  Anyone know if there is a help channel for LinuxMCE?
[01:56] <tgm4883> well I have to use the cron-curl.sh script as my host doesn't have wget
[01:56] <tgm4883> so I hope it works, as I don't know how to test that
[01:58] <cornell> sudo lvm vgchange  -a y vg ends with 0 logical volumes in volume group now active
[01:58] <cornell> Sorry, said that before ;-(
[01:59] <tgm4883> marC--, afaik, no there is not
[02:00] <tgm4883> superm1, what about a bit torrent tracker module?
[02:00] <tgm4883> http://drupal.org/project/bittorrent
[02:01] <cornell> superm1:  I did restore vgscan pvscan lvscan and vgchange... results in: http://cornell.pastebin.com/m668d73a8
[02:02] <superm1> tgm4883, that looks really sweet
[02:02] <superm1> that would really streamline hosting there if we could use something like that
[02:02] <tgm4883> superm1, i'm also looking at image and image assist modules.  So we can put images in stories
[02:02] <tgm4883> we can test these
[02:02] <tgm4883> on the test site :)
[02:03] <tgm4883> http://drupal.org/project/img_assist
[02:05] <superm1> tgm4883, that sounds pretty neat too
[02:05] <superm1> i like both of these
[02:05] <tgm4883> superm1, you said you had a recent iso right?
[02:05] <superm1> tgm4883, i generated one yesterday
[02:05] <superm1> locally, since we dont have hosting for iso's atm
[02:05] <superm1> until Daviey or foxbuntu give up the login info to their servers
[02:05] <tgm4883> want to make a torrent of it and i will install both those modules on the test site?
[02:06] <superm1> well ubiquity is broken for it, so i dont want to make a torrent of it until at least that is fixed
[02:06] <superm1> just make a torrent of anything though
[02:06] <superm1> a folder filled with backgrounds or something
[02:07] <superm1> but yes install both modules on the test site
[02:07] <tgm4883> ok
[02:07] <superm1> cornell, you have to reboot after installing lvm2 i think
[02:08] <superm1> because device mapper support isn't activated yet
[02:10] <cornell> DIdn't think of that...
[02:10] <cornell> (Which is why you're "super" ;-) )
[02:10] <superm1> you might also be able to modprobe the device mapper module, but i dont remember its name
[02:10] <superm1> rebooting will load the module
[02:10] <superm1> and run the init script
[02:13] <cornell> The stop?
[02:16] <cornell> And then the restore vgscan pvscan lvscan and vgchange ?
[02:16] <superm1> huh?
[02:16] <superm1> there is an init script that initializes lvm stuff i thought
[02:19] <cornell> Apparently there is.  After the reboot, (and your "huh?") I did a ls -la and it's there ;-)
[02:20] <marC--> anyone happen to know if ubuntu-mythtv will work well with a WINTV 1600 ?
[02:22] <tgm4883> marC--, has hauppauge released their linux drivers for it yet?
[02:22] <superm1> marC--, http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/support_hvr1600.html
[02:22] <tgm4883> superm1, it doesn't look as if the bit torrent module works
[02:22] <tgm4883> :(
[02:23] <tgm4883> it puts the whole site in a mess
[02:23] <superm1> tgm4883, just give it some work, make it work
[02:23] <tgm4883> look at mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com
[02:23] <tgm4883> i'm looking at the offending line, but i don't know whats wrong with it
[02:23] <tgm4883> foreach($bparsed as $key => &$value) {
[02:23] <cornell> Now, mount says: /dev/dm-0 on /var/lib/mythtv type ext3 (rw)
[02:23] <cornell> Should I use /dev/dm-0, or /dev/vg in fstab?
[02:24] <superm1> yuck tgm4883
[02:24] <superm1> cornell, matter of opinion again :)
[02:24] <cornell> k
[02:24] <marC--> tgm4883: I take that as a no
[02:25] <tgm4883> marC--, actually i dont know, check the link that superm1 posted
[02:25] <superm1> marC--, see the bottom of the page
[02:26] <superm1> no linux support yet
[02:26] <marC--> sucks
[02:26] <tgm4883> superm1, sec, I may have fixed it
[02:32] <cornell> mmm... /dev/vg/myth is owned by root, should be mythtv, right?
[02:34] <superm1> cornell, not the device
[02:34] <superm1> the place its mounted
[02:35] <cornell> Ah
[02:41] <cornell> BTW... in /etc/fstab,  /dev/vg didn't seem to work, /dev/dm-0 seems to
[02:41] <cornell> Course, I could've fat fingered something ;-)
[02:44] <superm1> @schedule chicago
[02:44] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Chicago: 24 Aug 07:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 10:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 10:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 14:00: Technical Board | 29 Aug 15:00: Edubuntu | 30 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[02:45] <superm1> yikes... 7am
[03:07] <cornell>  Dang....  The mysqldump has drops....  I'm trying to edit it...  it's bogged down the editor
[03:07] <superm1> use a better editor :)
[03:07] <cornell> gedit
[03:08] <superm1> i'm a fan of geany personally lately
[03:08] <cornell> Standard with ubuntu ;-)
[03:09] <cornell> I want to get rid of the drops and the creates, just keep the inserts
[03:11] <cornell> geany is better than gedit?
[03:11] <cornell> Dang... gedit is still hung, and it's got my unsaved notes ;-(
[03:12] <superm1> well i love geany
[03:12] <superm1> for an all around editor
[03:13] <cornell> And it's in synaptic ;-)
[03:19] <cornell> ok.... geany opens the file with 315 lines...  It's 36M ??
[03:22] <superm1> eh?
[03:25] <cornell> The file that's got gedit hung is 36M...  When I open it in geany... its 315 lines...
[03:26] <superm1> 315 long lines
[03:26] <superm1> probably
[03:26] <cornell> RIght, just got that, it's not wrapping
[03:26] <superm1> gedit does the same thing, but horribly with too long of lines
[03:29] <cornell> mmm  but all the inserts seem to be on one line, no lf at the end of each insert... strange
[03:35] <cornell> But now... I"m wondering...  I got rid of the drops and all, from the old database, because some of the tables were defined differently... but this dump is from the new, why not just run it.  It's only the recorded* tables
[03:40] <superm1> shouldn't hurt....
[03:40] <superm1> *shouldnt*
[03:45] <cornell> Wow, gedit just came back, and I saved my notes ;-)
[03:46] <cornell> Now... installed, hooked up lvm, loaded database.  next... sound
[03:47] <cornell> Oh... and create another user for mysql
[03:47] <superm1> personally, sound would have been top priority to me
[03:47] <superm1> but thats me
[03:51] <cornell> mmm... watch tv... it's already using all available inputs?  But it's not recording anything.  I haven't configured the second card, but the first one... should be available.
[03:53] <superm1> you imported things
[03:53] <superm1> perhaps schedules?
[03:55] <cornell> Well... the recorded* are all... past tense.
[03:55] <cornell> Beside, if it was recording something... wouldn't it show up in watch videos/all programs, top of the list, no?
[03:56] <superm1> well check the log then
[03:56] <superm1> and see whats up
[03:56] <cornell> And it's response to the remote is sluggish.
[03:57] <cornell> log... backend log, or one I don't know how to find ;-)
[03:57] <superm1> backend log
[03:58] <cornell> mmm... this probably isn't to good: ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.
[03:59] <cornell> A trip to mythtv-setup sound about right?
[04:01] <superm1> yea
[04:03] <cornell> Well, my time is up...
[04:03] <cornell> Thank you much, superm1
[04:03] <cornell> TTFN
[04:03] <superm1> see ya cornell
[04:03] <superm1> sounds like you're close again :)
[04:11] <cornell> Sorry about the quick punch out, the little woman comes home from work between 9 and 10, and then I have to quit.  I don't know until the little one rings the doorbell.
[04:11] <cornell> Thanks again, superm1
[04:12] <superm1> ah
[04:42] <superm1> laga, here?
[04:42] <superm1> the weekly build script should now work from both fixes and trunk
[05:59] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, there is also a digg plugin
[05:59] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, i had that on last time
[05:59] <superm1> but didnt this time
[05:59] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[06:00] <tgm4883_laptop> i put in an email to the bittorrent dev, hopefully he has some insight on the issue
[06:00] <superm1> good
[06:01] <tgm4883_laptop> I also had an idea of putting a form for people to email about what they think of mythbuntu
[06:01] <superm1> well i dont that will be necessary
[06:01] <tgm4883_laptop> or maybe a google map where people input their location and it gives us a map of all users
[06:01] <superm1> i think the forums
[06:01] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[06:01] <superm1> would do
[06:01] <tgm4883_laptop> what about ^, it's kinda neat on some sites
[06:02] <superm1> well i've never seen that under heavy usage
[06:02] <tgm4883_laptop> whoops
[06:02] <superm1> mapping things like that
[06:02] <tgm4883_laptop> i mean http://www.frappr.com/ddwrt
[06:02] <tgm4883_laptop> for instance
[06:02] <superm1> we can already do that actually
[06:02] <superm1> from the logs
[06:03] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, i think there is a drupal plugin too if we want
[06:04] <superm1> any luck with the image upload plugin
[06:04] <superm1> for inline stuff
[06:04] <tgm4883_laptop> i haven't tested it yet, it's on their though
[06:04] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll test it right now
[06:04] <superm1> k
[10:31] <DaveMorris> are our packages build with the debug symbols turned in yet?
[10:31] <superm1> they are built with debug symbols
[10:32] <superm1> ddebs are auto available
[10:32] <superm1> in the event of  a crash
[10:32] <DaveMorris> you know of any guides where I can take a stack trace from apport and produce the stuff upstream want?
[10:32] <superm1> there were a few on wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <superm1> that explain how to do it
[10:33] <superm1> i don't have a link off hand
[10:33] <DaveMorris> I'll have a look see then
[10:33] <superm1> speaking of which: laga : if you can get the changes for -fixes in today, it'd be most appreciated.  it would appear they just tagged the 0.20.2 release
[10:34] <superm1> so sometime tomorrow will go through and submit the UVFe
[10:34] <superm1> i had to clean up quite a bit of stuff that changed because they backported a few things from trunk
[10:34] <superm1> but the things build right now with the -fixes bzr branches, just need the loving on the type of build done
[10:35] <superm1> in any which case though
[10:35] <superm1> DaveMorris, we're going to do SRUs
[10:35] <superm1> or try to at least
[10:35] <superm1> if the SRU process fails us, then i'll push them to PPA
[10:45] <DaveMorris> SRU?  PPA?
[01:08] <cornell_work> Morning DaveMorris.  Used the livecd last evening to do a new install.  Seems to've gone much better.  The process... actually crashed the first time, but the second went well.
[01:08] <cornell_work> The first time, I'd specified that I wanted to configure both cards.  The second time, only one.
[01:09] <cornell_work> Watched TV, silent.  Hooked up the lvm, restored the database, watched recordings, silent.
[01:10] <cornell_work> The remote got installed during the installation.  I think that earlier this week, with my very first try, I'd failed to properly interpret the "checkbox" for including the remote.  Those fancy button things, I can never tell which way is "on".  What's the matter with an empty box vs a box with a check in it?
[01:11] <cornell_work> By quitting time, I had only to get the sound working (probably play with alsamixer) and the response to the remote seemed sluggish.
[01:13] <cornell_work> I press a remote button and wait a second or two, or 10 for a response.  I did find out I could run irw via an ssh terminal, so I could watch the mythtv for the button response, and the workstation for it's, more ... raw, primitive... button response.  irw shows virtually instantaneous, and correct, responses.
[01:14] <cornell_work> I'm thinking... A) hauupauge.lircrc is big, containing the instructions for many devices, perhaps editing out all but the 350.  And/or B) check that the lircrc is in the right place and linked from the right place.
[01:15] <cornell_work> Anyway... that's how I spent my evening...  (Oh, and I bogged down gedit with a file that was too large, took about an hour for it to close it, superm1  suggested geany as an editor, so far so good ;-) )
[02:08] <DaveMorris> my remote seems sluggish
[02:08] <DaveMorris> I'm considering buying a wireless keyboard and using that
[02:48] <cornell_work> Do they have small wireless keyboards?  I'm close to the machine and can use it's wired keyboard, but that makes 3 keyboards on my desk ;-(
[02:51] <hugol1> cornell_work:  use a bluetooth remote
[04:58] <hugol1> hi
[04:58] <hugol1> whats the comand to create the mythtv database?
[04:58] <hugol1> I had mysql installed and the mythtv installation didnt create it
[04:59] <laga> sudo apt-get install mythtv-database
[04:59] <laga> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[04:59] <hugol1> thanks laga
[04:59] <hugol1> mythtv-database is a dependencie right?
[05:00] <hugol1> so it should have been installed
[05:01] <hugol1> laga, mythconverg was just created and its empty
[05:02] <hugol1> can I just create manually it automatically and give acces to the mythtv user and thats it?
[05:02] <laga> um
[05:02] <laga> it's supposed to be empty
[05:02] <hugol1> well that wasnt my best english but you got it
[05:02] <hugol1> XD
[05:03] <laga> no, i didn't.
[05:03] <hugol1> oh
[05:03] <hugol1> XD
[05:03] <hugol1> I mean that I run the command dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[05:03] <hugol1> and it created the user mythtv and the empty database mythconverg
[05:03] <hugol1> if I do this manually it will be ok as well right?
[05:04] <hugol1> if I set the user mythtv to be able to manage mythconverg....
[05:05] <laga> yes, should be OK as well.
[05:05] <laga> basically, look at at mc.sql is doing
[05:06] <laga> and please don't complain here about broken database stuff when you do it manually
[05:07] <hugol1> ok
[05:23] <laga> superm1: here?
[05:30] <laga> superm1: looks like -Os is not recommended for mythtv
[05:31] <laga> superm1: line 2772 and following in trunk's configure:
[05:32] <laga> # not all compilers support -Os
[05:32] <laga> #test "$optimize" = "small" && check_cflags -Os
[05:32] <laga> # disabling -Os for now (2007-01-31) since it has build problems after ffmpeg sync [12645] 
[05:32] <laga> test "$optimize" = "small" && check_optflags -O2
[05:32] <laga> superm1: this doesn't have to apply to -fixes, though
[05:38] <laga> all this reading about gcc flags makes me want to use gentoo again
[05:43] <tgm4883> laga, or anyone, can you do me a favor?
[05:44] <tgm4883> I need someone to test out the drupal torrent plugin.  Basically go to http://mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com/ and download the PNW Contest torrent
[05:44] <laga> legal download?
[05:44] <tgm4883> yea
[05:45] <tgm4883> it's just pics i put together for my loco team contest
[05:45] <tgm4883> I took all the pics
[05:45] <laga> Access denied
[05:45] <laga> You are not authorized to access this page.
[05:45] <tgm4883> it's of the pacific northwest
[05:45] <laga> let me log in
[05:45] <tgm4883> hmm
[05:45] <superm1> laga, i'm here
[05:45] <laga> tgm4883: wait, is that mythbuntu.org?
[05:45] <tgm4883> no
[05:46] <tgm4883> the test site for mythbuntu.org
[05:46] <tgm4883> laga try it now
[05:46] <laga> superm1: i don't see an obvious way to build just ffmpeg with optimizations while leaving the rest unoptimized
[05:46] <tgm4883> superm1, you can try it too
[05:47] <superm1> laga, hm that's not good.
[05:47] <superm1> how is it being handled by other packages i wonder then
[05:47] <superm1> like j-rod's
[05:47] <superm1> and Cardoe's
[05:48] <laga> superm1: i need to investigate the build system more properly
[05:48] <laga> superm1: cardoe is the gentoo maintainer. the users can recompile themslves
[05:48] <laga> superm1: i'll check for the rpms
[05:48] <superm1> ah that's right laga
[05:49] <laga> i'll bug j-rod..
[05:50] <foxbuntu> superm1, I have the check boxes fixed on the GTK2 Theme...just gotta figure out how to handle the colors with the FG and BG
[05:51] <superm1> foxbuntu, good
[05:52] <tgm4883> can someone check this torrent so I know if everything is working right?
[05:53] <laga> tgm4883: it's "stalled" here, but that could be my firewall
[05:53] <tgm4883> ok
[05:53] <tgm4883> anyone else?
[05:53] <tgm4883> http://mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com/node/39
[05:53] <laga> superm1: see #mythtv
[05:54] <tgm4883> laga, I guess the key is that you connected to the tracker
[05:54] <tgm4883> I have comcast and apparently they are causing some problems with bittorrent now
[05:54] <superm1> well the torerent downloaded and connected to the stracker
[05:54] <superm1> but there is not a single person on it
[05:55] <tgm4883> ok
[05:55] <tgm4883> so it's working, but a problem with my stuff somewhere
[05:55] <tgm4883> but it's working per the site
[05:55] <tgm4883> which is good
[05:56] <superm1> tgm4883, i'll trust its "working" once i'm connected to someone and start getting something :)
[05:56] <tgm4883> well maybe I should send the archive to laga and he can serve you :)
[05:56] <tgm4883> stupid comcast
[05:57] <tgm4883> I need to figure out where the tracker info is on the site
[06:01] <superm1> tgm4883, oh neat with image assist
[06:01] <superm1> it imports from the image module
[06:01] <superm1> or and upload
[06:01] <tgm4883> superm1, is it working?
[06:01] <tgm4883> I can't see the pic, thats why im asking
[06:02] <superm1> well kinda
[06:02] <superm1> i edited the torrent node
[06:02] <superm1> but it wont let me do a full edit
[06:02] <superm1> unless i attach the torrent
[06:02] <superm1> so i guess it's 'not' working then
[06:02] <tgm4883> ah
[06:02] <tgm4883> well you should be able to use image assist on any content type
[06:03] <tgm4883> i do have a few up their, but non show the pics
[06:03] <tgm4883> I am making progress though, as now you can tell the pics are supposed to be their.   Before it was just giving me the code
[06:03] <superm1> well once it's working it looks like a pretty sweet module
[06:04] <tgm4883> yea its pretty cool
[06:04] <tgm4883> once it starts working
[06:05] <tgm4883> oh btw superm1, i was asking some questions over in #drupal-support, and somebody said they liked the design of the site.  So I just thought I'd pass that on to you
[06:05] <superm1> tgm4883, you need to find a setting to make sure these things dont post to the front page too necessarirly
[06:06] <superm1> awesome :)
[06:06] <tgm4883> well that would be the promote to front page thing right?
[06:06] <superm1> Yes
[06:06] <superm1> so you'll need to make sure for the 'torrent' node type
[06:06] <superm1> that doesnt happen
[06:07] <tgm4883> superm1, mythbuntu.org uses php4 or php5?
[06:07] <superm1> 5
[06:07] <tgm4883> ok
[06:07] <tgm4883> that was my problem yesterday, my host defaults to 4
[06:08] <superm1> do they have both though?
[06:08] <tgm4883> yea
[06:08] <tgm4883> so it was just a quick override in .htaccess
[06:11] <superm1> keescook, what was that command again to compare two version numbers to make sure one is newer?
[06:11] <superm1> i'm about to prepare the mythtv UVFe since 0.20.2 was tagged last night
[06:11] <tgm4883> I also found at least 1 thing I can't do because im not the administrator
[06:11] <superm1> what's that?
[06:11] <tgm4883> database upgrade
[06:11] <keescook> superm1: dpkg --compare-version ?  checking
[06:11] <superm1> keescook, yup that sounds right
[06:11] <keescook> versionS
[06:12] <keescook>        dpkg --compare-versions ver1 op ver2
[06:12] <keescook>               sion: lt-nl le-nl ge-nl gt-nl. These  are  provided  only
[06:12] <superm1> and explains why i couldn't find it by ls /usr/bin | grep compare
[06:12] <keescook> yeah, sneaky hidden options.  ;)
[06:14] <superm1> keescook, okay it appears to pass.  for the UVFe and SRU's i'm going to list it as 0.20.2-ubuntu1 since there are no "added" fixes by the +fixesXXX,  and then in the future if we adapt anything else from -fixes make it 0.20.2+fixesXXX-0ubuntu1
[06:14] <superm1> just did it as like this:
[06:14] <superm1> if dpkg --compare-versions 0.20.2-0ubuntu1 lt 0.20.2+fixes12345-0ubuntu1
[06:14] <superm1> then
[06:14] <superm1>         echo "its less"
[06:14] <superm1> else
[06:14] <superm1>         echo "its more"
[06:14] <superm1> fi
[06:15] <keescook> yeah, I think that's right
[06:18] <laga> superm1: i found a way to change the optimizations used in debug mode, i think.. let's see
[06:23] <laga> yeah, i can come up with something.
[06:24] <superm1> laga, awesome!
[06:28] <laga> when do you need it? today?
[06:29] <superm1> laga, if its going into the UVFe yes
[06:29] <superm1> otherwise it can go into a small upload
[06:30] <laga> i'll see what i can do. it should be simple..
[06:30] <laga> i can immediately give you a ugly patch which just changes default behaviour...
[06:30] <laga> i'd rather make it configurable, though
[06:31] <superm1> well the other worry will be the performance consequences
[06:31] <superm1> hopefully there should be only positive :)
[06:31] <laga> mythtv itself won't have any optimizations then. only ffmpeg will have them
[06:31] <laga> if i remember the discussion in #mythtv correctly.. a few weeks ago
[06:32] <superm1> didnt you put it in blueprint on LP
[06:32] <laga> yes
[06:33] <laga> thanks for reminding me
[06:36] <laga> time to get a fresh -fixes checkout :)
[06:36] <superm1> laga, actually
[06:36] <superm1> let me push my change here
[06:37] <superm1> it tags it as 0.20.2
[06:53] <superm1> laga, grab revision 9
[06:53] <superm1> its got the tagging support
[06:54] <laga> i won't need to build a package right now
[06:54] <superm1> don't run it though.  it appears i did something wrong :)
[06:54] <superm1> okay
[06:54] <superm1> i just ran it and it seems to have rm -rf `pwd` somehow.
[06:55] <laga> awesome :)
[06:57] <superm1> ah rm -rf $(CURDIR)/$(BASE)  when $(BASE) wasn't defined yet :)
[07:04] <superm1> okay that's fixed
[07:04] <superm1> so if you check out the latest -fixes bzr branch
[07:04] <superm1> its all good
[07:05] <laga> ./configure --compile-type=apport
[07:05] <laga> let's see if this works
[07:05] <superm1> ooh compile-type apport?
[07:05] <superm1> sounds fun
[07:08] <laga> libavcodec is now building with -O3. let's hope the other libs built without it ;)
[07:10] <superm1> laga, if things work here, i say that you use a dpatch for now to patch configure, and then push this patch upstream, in case any other distro packagers end up adapting apport
[07:11] <laga> other distros have the same problem, so it could be renamed to "package" or something
[07:11] <laga> i want to take upstream a look first
[07:11] <laga> i don't wanna be yelled at for breaking the build system :)
[07:12] <superm1> ah good point
[07:12] <superm1> release-type=packages
[07:12] <superm1> or somethign to that effect
[07:13] <laga> it was surprisingly easy to add
[07:20] <superm1> laga, +15 dexterity for solving this :)
[07:21] <superm1> laga, and i got the translation stuff in place now for mythtv packaging on launchpad.  so if you want to have at the german one: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/mythtv/+pots/pkg-mythtv
[07:22] <laga> heh
[07:23] <laga> superm1: i think i already translated the german one
[07:23] <laga> ah, whatever, i'll just copy & paste the strings
[07:23] <laga> someone should clean out the cruft in those files
[07:23] <superm1> well this way its automated
[07:23] <superm1> well mostly
[07:23] <superm1> its automated there, i just need to import it into the packaging regularly
[07:23] <laga> what about ubiquity?
[07:24] <superm1> ick.  yea forgot about that.  those need to be cleaned
[07:24] <superm1> but they are on LP already i believe
[07:25] <laga> did you build a new livecd?
[07:25] <superm1> Not yet.
[07:25] <superm1> i need upstream ubiquity to do a release
[07:26] <superm1> with all of my  changes these last few days
[07:26] <superm1> there was a lot
[07:26] <superm1> they're going to try to tonight
[07:27] <laga> good.
[07:27] <hugolp> hi
[07:27] <hugolp> I reinstalled my backend and got a different pasword. Now my frontend in other computer wont load
[07:27] <hugolp> how do I change the pasword?
[07:28] <laga> 16:50 < laga> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[07:29] <hugolp> no, I mean the pasword in the front-end
[07:29] <hugolp> that way too?
[07:31] <laga> yes
[07:31] <laga> unless it's set in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[07:32] <hugolp> ok
[07:33] <hugolp> I dont have the directory ~./mythtv
[07:33] <hugolp> and when I do dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database it sais that package its not installed
[07:34] <hugolp> Im in the computer with only the front end
[07:34] <hugolp> I reinstalled the backend in another computer and got a new pasword for the database
[07:34] <hugolp> so this computer with only the front-end wont load mythtv
[07:34] <laga> hugolp: i'm sorry.
[07:34] <laga> hugolp: use dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[07:34] <hugolp> Im trying to change the pasword but dont find where
[07:34] <hugolp> ok
[07:34] <laga> spend too much time in the sun today
[07:35] <hugolp> sounds good to me
[07:36] <hugolp> ok, that worked but the front-end wont come up
[07:36] <hugolp> I have to kill it or it just wont do nothing
[07:36] <superm1> laga, will this easily be portable onto mythplugins too
[07:40] <superm1> keescook, were you at the motu meeting today?
[07:40] <keescook> superm1: sorry, wasn't
[07:40] <superm1> keescook, i'm wondering what this means: <ScottK> You got a blanket UVFe at today's MOTU meeting.
[07:41] <superm1> that mean mythtv/mythplugins are then exempt from UVFe?
[07:41] <keescook> hunh, no idea
[07:41] <laga> superm1: um
[07:41] <laga> plugins. right.
[07:42] <laga> superm1: the way it's done now... mythplugins *should* build with -g and with -O0, eg compile-type=debug
[07:42] <superm1> laga, i heard something along the lines of mythweb is off by default on builds.  since we --enable-mythweb, i dont think it will affect us
[07:42] <superm1> so i'm double checking
[07:42] <laga> superm1: aren't we just cp'ing mythweb?
[07:42] <superm1> *mythweather
[07:43] <laga> i got a patch the other day because mythweb contains .svn dirs.. on trunk, though. dunno if it applies to -fixes
[07:43] <laga> http://tikei.de/mythweb-remove-svn-dirs.diff
[07:43] <laga> here's the patch, haven't even looked at it yet
[07:51] <superm1> keescook, okay i poked around with it.  all mythbuntu-* and ubuntustudio-* packages are exempt from UVFe's
[07:51] <superm1> mythtv/plugins aren't
[07:52] <laga> cool
[07:54] <tgm4883> superm1, can you test this http://mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com/node/44
[07:54] <tgm4883> and laga too
[07:56] <laga> "stalled"
[07:56] <laga> the firewall, i think ;)
[07:56] <superm1> no peers or seeds
[07:57] <tgm4883> superm1, could you seed?  I sent you the file in an email
[07:57] <tgm4883> i think there is something up with my firewall and such
[07:58] <superm1> okay i'm seeding
[07:59] <tgm4883> laga, are you receiving?
[08:00] <laga> nope
[08:00] <tgm4883> :(
[08:00] <laga> i'm not a very good tester
[08:00] <laga> let's see
[08:00] <tgm4883> apparently me neither
[08:01] <tgm4883> aparently the web site sees the three of us though, 1 seeder 2 leechers
[08:01] <tgm4883> http://mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com/bt/list
[08:04] <tgm4883> superm1, can i get the backup of the site again?  I'm going to kill the test site and database and start with something that I haven't been messing with and changing random settings for days
[08:04] <superm1> tgm4883, yea same URL
[08:04] <tgm4883> :)
[08:04] <laga> i do get a "!" in my client so something is likely wrong here
[08:05] <superm1> tgm4883, look at logs, i PMed it to you didn't i?
[08:05] <tgm4883> perhaps
[08:09] <tgm4883> the channel logs?
[08:11] <laga> if your PMs show up in the channel, something is wrong
[08:12] <tgm4883> what logs then?
[08:12] <superm1> well pm logs
[08:17] <superm1> keescook, for the SRU's, i fear we won't be able to easily get two MOTUs to test across dapper,edgy,feisty
[08:17] <superm1> unless I can count for one of them
[08:20] <tgm4883> unless it's kept somewhere online, it's not in any of my logs
[08:20] <superm1> tgm4883, let me check my cron job for the url then
[08:21] <superm1> how did i get it to you before?
[08:21] <tgm4883_laptop> probably pm, but i didn't have my feisty machine set to log convos
[08:21] <tgm4883_laptop> i checked the channel logs, but they aren't up to date yet
[08:21] <tgm4883_laptop> !logs
[08:21] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[08:24] <superm1> laga, did you see this on the 0.20.2 feature list: "Reduced mythfrontend memory consumption by up to 75% depending on theme and resolution."
[08:25] <laga> superm1: yes.
[08:25] <superm1> that's quite exciting to read
[08:25] <laga> superm1: that would be gbee's fixes. they went in some time ago
[08:26] <superm1> my frontend will thank him then
[08:26] <superm1> once these are in feisty-proposed
[08:27] <laga> i didn't know you were running "stable" stuff, i thought you used your own -fixes packages :)
[08:27] <superm1> well i do
[08:27] <superm1> but i'm going to test the proposed stuff
[08:27] <superm1> since it needs to be done for the SRU
[08:30] <superm1> laga, i'm going to go ahead and file the UVFe as is, since this won't affect the decision by motu-uvf whether 0.20.2 gets in, but we'll put the rebuilding debug stuff in the upload
[08:33] <laga> k
[08:33] <laga> http://laga.ath.cx/compile-type-apport.diff
[08:33] <laga> ^^ preliminary patch
[08:46] <superm1> laga, ah looks easy enough
[08:46] <superm1> (Arbeitskopie)
[08:46] <superm1> is that current?
[08:47] <laga> "working copy"
[08:47] <superm1> ah
[08:47] <laga> i was too lazy to s/apport/package/, though
[08:48] <laga> i'll mail it to mythtv-dev later
[08:51] <laga> superm1: do we already have forums at mythbuntu.org?
[08:51] <superm1> laga, no.  they will be on ubuntuforums
[08:51] <superm1> after alpha5
[08:51] <superm1> or at least at beta announce
[08:52] <laga> ah, i was just going to porpose a partnership with mythtvtalk.com, but we already have a partner :)
[08:53] <laga> superm1: congratulations :)
[08:53] <superm1> thx :)
[08:53] <tgm4883> ohhhh, motu badge mmmmmm
[08:54] <superm1> tgm4883, oh do i need to give you access on your server again :)
[08:54] <tgm4883> nope
[08:54] <tgm4883> i have access now ;)
[08:54] <tgm4883> gave myself access
[08:54] <superm1> oh modifying SQL eh?
[08:55] <tgm4883> phpadmin
[08:55] <superm1> right
[08:55] <laga> gotta love that ssh exploit
[08:55] <laga> ;)
[08:55] <tgm4883> just made me the first user
[08:55] <superm1> laga, did yours tests come up okay on the -fixes branch
[08:55] <superm1> with that patch?
[08:55] <superm1> as in things compiled sanely and such
[08:55] <tgm4883> then I wanted to see if someone could get the passwords, but you can only request a new password, not view your current password
[08:56] <superm1> keescook, i'm going to prepare the SRUs now and send them up to RELEASE-proposed, regarding packaging, I should just use the packaging that was present in the older release, correct?
[08:58] <laga> superm1: i haven't really tested that patch. heh. i'll try a build
[08:58] <laga> (i can't really test because my mythtv is trunk)
[08:58] <superm1> grab the new bzr branch and you should be able to do it all at once
[08:59] <laga> you talking to me?
[09:01] <superm1> yes
[09:01] <laga> already building. ;)
[09:01] <superm1> ok, you grabbed the new source with the tagged release right?
[09:02] <laga> nope
[09:02] <laga> -fixes
[09:02] <laga> should be the same
[09:02] <superm1> well i mean the new bzr branch
[09:03] <laga> no
[09:03] <laga> can do that later
[09:03] <superm1> woah neat, i'm part ubuntu-qt and all the bug triaging stuff now too
[09:03] <laga> sounds like "lots of email" ;)
[09:04] <superm1> oddly enough thats not the first thing i thought
[09:04] <superm1> but i think i need to add some more t-bird filters
[09:04] <superm1> you don't even want to see what t-bird looks like for me nowadays
[09:04] <laga> i'm a pessimist, y'know ;)
[09:05] <superm1> well this means i can finally adjust bug priorites
[09:05] <superm1> priorities
[09:06] <laga> that's cool then
[09:09] <laga> i hope the new backtraces won't be misleading
[09:09] <laga> eg if only half of the libs can be trust to be sanely debuggable.. :(
[09:10] <superm1> well i dont think it will be if this gets adapted by others like fedora and such
[09:14] <laga> i'll wait for the feedback on mythtv-devc
[09:15] <superm1> so should i go ahead with the upload and add this in next week then?
[09:15] <superm1> or wait today
[09:15] <laga> better wait
[09:16] <superm1> well now that i have upload rights, its easy enough to add though :)
[09:17] <laga> true enough
[09:18] <laga> i'll go for a walk first.. although it's dark outside ;)
[09:19] <superm1> okay i'll be around for an hour or two
[09:19] <superm1> i'd just like to get this on the buildds asap :)
[09:20] <laga> i'm afraid of breakage, TBH
[09:22] <superm1> okay then as soon as the UVF is approved i'll just upload without your change
[09:22] <superm1> we'll test with your change this next week
[09:22] <superm1> and then upload an ubuntu2 revision containing it
[09:23] <laga> sounds good
[09:23] <tgm4883> superm1, you got mail
[09:24] <tgm4883> can you try downloading the torrent first, and it that doesn't work try seeding it as I also sent you the pic
[09:24] <superm1> woah tgm4883 its like your psychic.  i do have mail!
[09:55] <keescook> superm1: yes, older packaging as much as possible.
[09:56] <superm1> keescook, ok
[09:56] <drunken-wallaby> hi together. I've a little problem with my hauppauge pvr-150 using feisty. the problem is, that i've kind of jittering image when watching live-tv. according to dmesg the card is initialized correctly, though. the card itself is working fine, since i don't have any of these problems watching tv using windows. anyone has a clue for me what to try? I'm kind of clueless....
[09:56] <keescook> sounds like they've included some build changes, so we need to keep an eye on it
[09:57] <keescook> superm1: will mythplugins need to be rebuilt given the 0.20.2 bump in the SRUs?
[09:57] <superm1> yes
[09:57] <superm1> there is a new ABI version
[09:57] <superm1> keescook, yes there are a few build changes, that need to be carried in from the gutsy packages
[09:57] <keescook> is it just a rebuild, or does mythplugins need patches?
[09:58] <keescook> I don't think it makes sense to do a dapper SRU -- that's a huge step
[09:58] <superm1> well dapper had a backport
[09:58] <keescook> ah, okay
[09:58] <superm1> so perhaps just another backport for dapper
[09:58] <keescook> yeah
[09:58] <superm1> but SRU on edgy and feisty
[09:59] <superm1> mythplugins needs the new version too afaik.
[09:59] <superm1> because of the ABI change
[09:59] <keescook> okay, yeah, reading that now too.  wow, what a lot of churn.  :P
[10:00] <superm1> yea this is going to be big :)
[10:04] <superm1> keescook, do i have to subscribe to technical board's mailing list to post to it do you know?
[10:05] <keescook> versioning is going to be fun.  each release will need it's own version.  i.e.  0.20.2-0ubuntu0.6.10  0.20.2-0ubuntu0.7.04 etc
[10:05] <keescook> superm1: I'm not sure; I don't think so
[10:05] <superm1> okay then i'll fire this off
[10:05] <superm1> oh yikes your right
[10:05] <superm1> didn't consider that
[10:06] <superm1> so it can't just belike 0.20.2-0ubuntu1~proposed1
[10:14] <superm1> keescook, do you have an edgy box you'll be able to test it on?  I've got a feisty i will be able to
[10:17] <keescook> superm1: I have no edgy boxes, but I can do something in vmware
[10:17] <superm1> okay likewise
[10:18] <keescook> yeah, 0.20.2-0ubuntu0.6.10~proposed1  0.20.2-0ubuntu0.7.04~proposed1
[10:20] <superm1> okay well i'll prepare these packages then for the sru
[10:20] <superm1> see what i can turn up
[10:20] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, were you even able to download that other torrent I sent you?  I have another seed now so it might be worth testing
[10:21] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, yea i downloaded it but forgot to open deluge
[10:21] <tgm4883_laptop> opening the bt client usually help ;)
[10:21] <superm1> well it says i'm seeding fine
[10:22] <tgm4883_laptop> whoa
[10:22] <superm1> woah?
[10:22] <tgm4883_laptop> now we have 6 seeders according to the tracker, but I still can't download it
[10:22] <superm1> well no i cant either
[10:23] <superm1> i deleted the file and opened back up the .torrent
[10:23] <superm1> and same thing
[10:23] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[10:23] <tgm4883_laptop> strange
[10:30] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, the site is showing 5 seeders for that torrent.  The thing is, I only gave the complete file to 3 people (myself included)
[10:31] <superm1> lol
[10:31] <superm1> interesting.
[10:31] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, and when you were seeding, it showed 6
[10:31] <tgm4883_laptop> so somehow 3 other people got the file
[10:31] <superm1> maybe we're both broke
[10:31] <superm1> but laga isn't?
[10:31] <tgm4883_laptop> could be
[10:32] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[10:34] <tgm4883_laptop> weird, the third says no downloads from him either
[10:36] <tgm4883> nope, not me
[10:36] <superm1> keescook, we can't introduce a NEW binary package here can we...
[10:36] <superm1> because mythtv-transcode-utils has a few things that need to be moved appropriately then
[10:36] <keescook> superm1: I think we should focus on minimal change...
[11:07] <superm1> keescook, i'm gonna have to run for the evening.  i'll upload those when i return late tonight if there is a +1 on the bug.  I've got the SRU for feisty and edgy mythtv packages made, need to go over it once more and do it for the plugins yet though
[11:07] <superm1> i'll catch up with you later
[11:10] <keescook> superm1: okay, cool.  cya
[11:22] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, when you get back, check to see if you have the torrent
[12:12] <laga> superm1: mail sent to mythtv-dec
[12:12] <laga> v
[12:12] <laga> stupid fingers
[12:12] <laga> gah, stuck in moderation queue
[12:42] <cornell> AAARGH!!
[12:43] <laga> ?
[12:43] <cornell> I configured the one card, the Hauppauge 350 ...  the capture card setup has one card, type PVR-x50,probed info ASUS!!!
[12:43] <laga> huh?
[12:45] <cornell> The card at /dev/video0 is supposed to be the PVR350.  video2 is supposed to be the ASUS.  When I installed, I configured one card, the 350.  I couldn't watch tv, checked the capture cards, the one card configured has type 350, but the probed info says it's the ASUS.
[12:45] <laga> what does dmesg say?
[12:47] <cornell> Don't know quite what I'm looking for... but there's a bunch labeled ivtv0:  Ending with: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350, card#0
[12:47] <cornell> Care to see it?
[12:49] <cornell> dmesg | egrep ASUS has two lines, one is: [   32.142364]  CORE cx88[0] : subsystem: 1461:c111, board: ASUS PVR-416 [card=12,autodetected] 
[12:49] <cornell> And the other doesn't say autodetected.
[12:49] <laga> [   27.031646]  ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG (4 MB)
[12:49] <laga> ^^ my ivtv says that
[12:50] <cornell> Mine says: [   35.368520]  ivtv0: Registered device video2 for encoder MPEG (4 MB)
[12:50] <cornell> And a bunch of other registerd devices.
[12:50] <laga> true
[12:50] <laga> hum
[12:51] <cornell> Ok... so it IS dev/video2?
[12:51] <laga> well, video2 is the 350 then.
[12:51] <laga> yeah
[12:51] <laga> what's video1, btw?
[12:52] <cornell> Can I paste 5 lines here?
[12:52] <laga> pastebin would be better
[12:53] <laga> people in here tend to read the backlog and it's a bit annoying if there's much noise
[12:53] <cornell> K...  well it's right in front of the ivtv, so I'll pastebin it all
[12:53] <cornell> Well... not ALL ...
[12:54] <cornell> http://cornell.pastebin.com/m10016864
[12:57] <cornell> Anyway...  I guess I should make the card type for the ASUS
[01:03] <galatas> no hay ninguno este canal
[01:04] <cornell> Ok
[01:05] <laga> galatas: ?
[01:05] <galatas> este cnal es en espaol?
[01:05] <laga> no, es en ingles
[01:06] <galatas> pero hablas espaol por lo que veo
[01:07] <cornell> laga: In connect source to input... do I want to Fetch channels from listins source?
[01:07] <tgm4883_laptop> no hablas espanol
[01:08] <laga> galatas: mi espanol no es bueno
[01:10] <galatas> como hago para entrar en un canal en espaol