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PriceChildxero keeps doing something... then apologising afterwards saying "yeah sorry i shouldn't have done that"... even if it wasn't particularly bad...01:11
PriceChildHe seems like he's trying to be a lil naughty01:11
ompaulso give him a little ban01:12
PriceChildhe's had one from #ubuntu and decided to move onto -offtopic... I'd rather see what happens... I'm sure it won't be long.01:13
ompaula mute would be a good start and tell him no debate 10 mins and every line of text he sends you gets him more 01:13
PriceChildhere we go...01:17
PriceChild<xero9364> Seriously, what is gnaa?01:56
PriceChildnalioth, you still around?01:57
naliothPriceChild: usually01:57
PriceChildxero9364 must be a troll after that last random comment... :O01:57
naliothyou've been watching him01:58
PriceChildoh wait.... /lastlog shows previous discussion01:58
PriceChildan hour ago...01:58
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tonyyarussoMez: No lock file to be seen now - must have been cleared by the reboot :(04:58
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Meztonyyarusso, still there?06:05
tonyyarussoMez: yep06:23
Mezis gpg wprking no ?06:23
tonyyarussoNope06:24
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ubotuIcemanV9 called the ops in #ubuntu06:51
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ubotuJordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu11:29
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ubotuJordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu12:14
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ubotuPici called the ops in #ubuntu02:49
Garymneptok, ping02:51
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uboturunlevelten called the ops in #kubuntu03:35
gnomefreakHobbsee: i remember that nick from somewhere03:36
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Hobbseegnomefreak: seems like a right pain in the neck03:39
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nalioth!ping05:16
ubotuhost not found05:16
Picihmm05:16
naliothinteresting.05:16
PiciI guess op doesnt forward here but ops does?05:16
Hobbseeyes05:17
naliothagain, we see the ML being used for non ML topics05:29
naliothi've told all involved to "ask seveas".  how hard is that?05:30
Hobbseenalioth: people are morons, and dont read.05:30
Hobbseenalioth: we have at least 2 people today trying to win the "i dont read" award05:30
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ZelutSeveaz: ping05:34
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Zelutnalioth: wtf05:42
naliothZelut: wtf what?05:43
Zelutnalioth: I think you approached that the wrong way05:44
naliothZelut: probably.  i feel the irc mailing list should not exist05:44
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Zelutnalioth: well that is understandable, mainly I've just seen complaints and whining threads on there05:44
Zelutnalioth: but when we've tried multiple other methods to no avail we have to keep trying.05:45
naliothit is discomforting that the information i provided last week re #ubuntu-louisiana did not make it to you guys, but the ML is not the way to go05:45
Zelutwe've got three of us that have asked just as many ops with nothing done.05:46
naliothhow many of those ops were members of the (proposed) irc council or seveas?05:47
Zelutnot that you're not doing your job--I'm sure you've got protocol--but go about "reminding us" differently.05:47
naliothjust because they're ops, doesn't mean they have a clue as to what you want05:47
Seveasnalioth, Zelut: I've seen pm's from people but they were sent while I was away and when I was back they weren't here05:48
naliothZelut: here he is, ask him now.05:48
ZelutSeveas: would memoserv be a better solution for that?05:48
SeveasZelut, or coming here :)05:49
Seveasanyway05:49
vorianI'm apologize nalioth and Seveas.  I wasn't trying to stir up controversy. 05:49
SeveasI just got back from a planning meeteing, I'll be giving an ubuntu presentation for a few hundred people in november :)05:49
Seveas#ubuntu-louisiana is currently not registered. Was it dropped by the original owner or freenode staff?05:50
naliothSeveas: it is registered05:51
ZelutSeveas: when I've done a 'access #ubuntu-louisiana list' it shows reg'd by speeddemon8803.05:51
naliothSeveas: do you wish it to be owned by [whomever]  ?05:51
naliothZelut: has not asked his question yet05:51
Seveasah, made a typo before05:51
Seveasnalioth, he's done so before05:52
naliothSeveas: name the owner, and i'll make it so05:52
ZelutSeveas: we'd like it to be owned by axxium05:52
Seveas<bad star trek impersonation coming up>05:53
Seveasmake it so!05:53
Seveas<apologies to all star trek fans>05:53
naliothdone05:54
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Seveasthanks nalioth 05:55
naliothcan we vote to can the mailing list?05:56
Hobbseeooh, yes please05:56
SeveasI see no reason to do that05:57
Hobbseeoh wait, that's right, Seveas cant hear me anyway.05:57
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Seveasnalioth, still here?06:33
Seveasdoesn't look like it06:35
Seveas!staff06:35
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)06:35
naliothSeveas: yes?06:36
seanwWjhat's up?06:36
seanwOh, nalioth can handle it06:36
Seveasnalioth, aarghhh, do you need a !staff to show up? ;)06:36
Seveasnalioth, please cloak coNP with an Ubuntu cloak06:36
naliothSeveas: no, you need a bit more patience06:36
Seveasnalioth, yeah, people keep saying that06:36
nalioth2 minutes is a little quick06:37
SeveasDon't know why, I always wait 5 seconds :)06:37
naliothcloaked06:37
naliothSeveas: thought for your brain bucket:  some GCs hit me with a PM cloak request and it gets done when i see it06:38
PiciCan an op please take care of kmindi|ibm-t20 in #ubuntu. He/she/it seems to be saying 'hi folg' every 2 minutes since :2506:48
ubotuIn ubotu, Pici said: tribe is <reply> If you are running a Tribe(alpha) version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the latest Tribe of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.07:21
PriceChild!tribe07:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:23
PriceChildHmm I'm sure there's another factoid about that... *looks*07:23
PiciTheres !herd and !final, but they both reference Feisty.07:24
PiciI just switched it around for Gutsy and made it more applicable to a non-final release.07:24
PriceChildI'll update "final" then07:25
PiciFor whatever reason there where herd1,herd2 .. etc factoids for feisty.07:26
ubotuIn ubotu, PriceChild said: no final is <reply> If you are installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.07:27
PriceChildgrr07:27
PriceChildRight so that's ok isn't it?07:27
Garyare installed?07:27
PriceChildwhoops07:27
PriceChildfixed07:27
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PiciSounds good to me.07:27
jendaPriceChild: what's up with #ubuntu-luisiana ?07:30
naliothjenda: it's been solved07:30
PriceChildjenda, looks like its not refistered...07:30
jendaok07:30
PriceChilddid you spell it wrong?07:30
jendaPriceChild: louisiana, sorry07:30
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jendahehe07:30
jendaCoC, nalioth, Coc :)07:31
naliothjenda: it's fixed / solved / taken care of / no longer a problem 07:31
naliothit's irritating to me, cuz i told them last week how to get it taken care of07:31
jendao07:33
jenda*ok07:33
nalioth... and now we're in for 3 more weeks of responses to an issue that had no need to see the ml at all07:34
nalioth<sigh>07:38
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Garyerm, wrong channel, sorry :p07:50
naliothGary: you have title to land?07:50
Garydessert I meant07:50
naliothGary: or are you off on your spelling today?07:50
GaryI kan speel rite07:50
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ubotuNorrel called the ops in #ubuntu08:22
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ubotuArwen called the ops in #ubuntu+110:17
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Seveas!ops10:31
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok10:31
ubotuSeveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops10:31
SeveasWhat do y'all think of pici as op?10:31
ompaulgo for it10:32
PriceChild+110:32
nixternal-410:32
Amaranth+110:32
nixternal;)10:32
PriceChildI suggested him a week ago or so10:32
PriceChild:P10:32
Seveasah10:32
Seveasmissed that10:32
nixternal-6 now that PriceChild recommended him10:32
PriceChildYou were away10:32
PriceChildWhat do you all think of de-op'ing nixternal?10:32
PriceChild:P10:32
nixternal+110:32
nixternal:)10:32
Seveas+100010:32
nixternalouch10:32
PriceChildbtw new series of "The IT Crowd" on channel 4 in uk right now woooooo :D10:33
SeveasPriceChild, who responded last week?10:33
Seveasand what was the response?10:33
Seveas:)10:33
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Seveashaha10:34
ompaulnixternal, NO CAN MAKE NOISE10:34
ompaul:)10:34
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PriceChildI didn't like doing anything without you aruond.... seen as you're still really in charge... because of that I don't think we really discussed it much but there were a few other suggestions from nalio.th iirc10:34
nixternalorly10:34
SeveasPriceChild, shame... no need to wait for me -- I'm fine with others proposing/voting for ops10:36
ubotuMrObvious called the ops in #ubuntu10:36
SeveasPriceChild, given that I'm so damn unavailable that only makes sense10:36
gnomefreakstormx seems to have his good days and bad10:38
Seveasscary, he's in ##trangle :)10:38
Seveas(pici)10:39
ompaulwould one of you like to explain to MrO that !ops is not a stick to beat people with - better to ask them to be polite in polite company?10:39
ompaulperhaps as a pm10:43
PriceChildWill do ompaul 10:43
ompaulwe want people to know it is nice to be nice10:45
ompaulSeveas, want to try him out in -offtopic to see how he handles the grief for a bit10:51
PriceChildbaptism of fire10:51
Seveashehe10:51
ompaulPriceChild, no, I think that he does not have to do anything other than ping one of us for support in there10:51
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Seveashi Pici 10:51
ompaulSeveas, thanks for cutting me off in my prime :P10:52
PiciOh hey, I'm back.10:52
ompaulto it appears10:52
ompaulso it appears10:52
SeveasPici, what do you think about being an operator?10:52
PumpernickelIt's too late for us, but you can still escape.  Save yourself!10:53
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PiciSeveas: I think that if I was asked, I would definitly accept and that it has been my hope as a supporter of Ubuntu and the Ubuntu support channels to eventually be able to climb into that role.10:54
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SeveasPici, want to try if you can manage being an op in #ubuntu-offtopic?10:54
PiciSeveas: Sure.10:54
PriceChildGood reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines10:54
Seveas-ChanServ- [Pici]  has been added to the access list for #ubuntu-offtopic with level [10] 10:55
ompaulSeveas, tell ubotu10:55
Seveasand please read that document PriceChild linked to, it's a good read indeed :)10:55
ompaulPici, which irc client do you use10:55
PiciI will, I'm looking at it right now.10:55
Piciompaul: irssi.10:55
ompaulahh one of the dark side :)10:56
Seveas!ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/10:56
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, Seveas said: !ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/10:56
Seveasmeh10:56
Seveas@login10:56
Seveas!ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/10:56
PriceChild:)10:56
ubotuI'll remember that Seveas10:56
ompaulPriceChild, you got something for irssi for Pici ?10:56
PriceChildYeah10:56
PriceChildone second...10:56
ompaulPici, PriceChild will sort you out with some scriptz for operators 10:57
ompaulmakes life easy10:57
Piciompaul: I figured ;)10:57
PriceChildhmm I've lost my copy10:58
Pumpernickelauto_bleh?10:58
PriceChildyeah10:58
PriceChildjust found one on google though10:58
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PumpernickelAh, good.10:58
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PiciNo more irssi for PriceChild?10:58
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PriceChildhttp://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/auto_bleh.pl_10:59
PriceChildnalioth, should know where the latest version is when he comes back.10:59
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PriceChildI think that is the latest one though.11:00
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Seveastsk tsk11:06
mneptokO:)11:06
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SeveasGossip time11:06
Seveas!ops11:06
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici11:06
ubotuSeveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops11:06
SeveasGary for op?11:06
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PriceChildgnomefreak, gary for op?11:07
PriceChildI'd be happy with that11:07
mneptok+111:07
ompaulyeap gazzak as he used to call himself11:07
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gnomefreakwhos gary?11:07
AmaranthWho?11:07
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PriceChildgnomefreak, gazzak11:07
PriceChildAmaranth, ^11:07
Amaranthoh11:07
Seveasbeen around in -offtopic since ever11:07
Amaranthno vote from me, i don't have an opinion on him either way11:08
gnomefreaksounds good to me11:08
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ompaul+111:08
ompaulnalioth, ?11:08
PriceChildPici, how weak :)11:08
PriceChildHe's away I think ompaul..11:08
ompaulahh11:08
ompaulso I see11:08
PriceChildI've pinged him enough with no response :P11:08
ompaulSeveas, do it11:08
ompaulI think the others are happy11:08
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ompaulelkbuntu, ?11:09
PriceChildShe's bedded11:09
ompauljenda, ?11:09
ompauljrib, ?11:09
jribompaul: ?11:09
ompaulthe subject is gary for op 11:09
PriceChildI think we should get hobbsee and elkbuntu to suggest at least one from the other side of the world...11:09
Seveasgood idea11:10
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jribdon't really know gary, but fine with me from what I've seen11:10
PiciIs it just 'time for more ops' or is someone planning on leaving? Or.. something else?11:10
ompaulPici, there are more needed11:10
PriceChildPici, I'm sorry we're not authorised to tell you that.11:10
PriceChildawww ompaul :(11:10
SeveasPici, someone's leaving11:11
ompaulPriceChild, I could tell him the truth then I would have to kill you :)11:11
Seveas(yay, full confusion!)11:11
PriceChildpirates!11:11
PiciNow my brain hurts.11:11
ompaulYaaaaa!"11:11
ompaulSeveas, can I ask gary back at this stage ?11:11
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ompaulmore like may but what the hell11:11
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Seveashe's been idle for hours11:11
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ompaulwell he is invited11:12
Seveastwice then :)11:12
Seveas--- You're inviting Gary to #ubuntu-ops (simmons.freenode.net)11:12
ompaul* You've invited Gary to #ubuntu-ops (simmons.freenode.net)11:12
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Garyhello11:18
gnomefreakhello11:18
PiciHi Gary!11:18
jribwelcome Gary 11:19
GaryHi Ya11:19
ompaulohh look tis gazzak11:19
ompaul:)11:19
Gary:-)11:19
ubotuIn #ubuntu, benn92647 said: ubotu to is a sexybot11:19
ompaulhi there youngfella11:19
jribwait Gary == gazzak?  that changes things11:19
gnomefreaklol11:19
Garyjrib, lol11:19
gnomefreakbrb this PPA crap is getting to me11:20
ompaulSeveas, Oi!11:20
Garydid you have a question for me?11:20
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PriceChildIf midnight_abuse comes back then he needs to change his quit message IMO11:21
Stormx2Hmm, what did she do?11:21
ompaulGary, there is one if only Seveas would get his brain together11:21
Stormx2Oh, I see.11:21
ompaulSeveas, .. ping11:21
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ompaulthat was me - will it get his attention11:22
ompaulGary, he'll be back in a sec methinks11:22
PriceChild@btlogin11:23
ompaulPriceChild, methinks you should ask it given Seveas not being here (again)11:23
ompaulhe said so at the start of this whole convo11:23
gnomefreakLMAO at who should ask11:23
PriceChildGary, How do you feel about operating?11:24
ompaulgnomefreak, well I won't - for being not close enough to ubuntu - like I am close but not close enough11:24
gnomefreakah11:24
Garywell I was gonna cut and paste Pici's answer, but Tom said plagiarism is bad :-)11:24
PriceChildhaha11:24
ompaulhaha11:25
Garybut my feeling is the same11:25
PiciHey, now I dont feel bad for taking so long ;)11:25
ompaulgreat11:25
PriceChildGary, incase you haven't read it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines11:25
PriceChildGary, the idea is we let you in on #ubuntu-offtopic like Pici and see how you do for a little while :)11:25
Garyread em and try to follow em when I got ops in -uk11:25
ompaulsmart alec :)11:26
gnomefreakso Pici and Gary == ops?11:26
=== ompaul buys Gary a virtual coffee chicken and chips
PriceChildhehe are we allowed to change our opinions ompaul?11:26
PiciScary, isnt it?11:26
ompaulPriceChild, you can11:26
PriceChildgnomefreak, of -offtopic for the time being.11:26
ompaulbut then you have to argue with Mark S11:26
jrib-offtopic is harder to op though11:26
gnomefreakok cool11:26
ompauljrib, I for one would not expect them to "own" it11:26
ompaulwe are there11:27
gnomefreakhas offtopic been that bad lately? ive been gone for a while11:27
PriceChildIt was nasty last night... quite a lot against me.11:27
ompaulbut they could do a little to get people to calm down11:27
PriceChildmanaged to get away without access thguoh11:27
GaryI've not seen it that bad, but a bit of abuse as normal11:27
ompaulPriceChild, sorry I was not able to stay more than was there11:27
PiciIts been a bit hectic lately.11:27
gnomefreaksame trouble makers?11:27
ompaulhopefully I had been a little bit of help11:28
PiciNot really, just random people coming in.11:28
ompaulgnomefreak, na, we had to mode +m it a couple of times11:28
jribwell, in #ubuntu it's pretty clear cut, in -offtopic it's usually !o4o stuff where people tend to get more heated11:28
ompaulin the last couple of days11:28
gnomefreakah ok11:28
ompaulgnomefreak, care to give it a bit of gnome love :)11:28
=== ompaul calls the troops to action
PriceChildI loved that bit when I said that war was !o4o... then they said it wasn't and explained it was a political discussion :P11:29
Piciimo, the rules have been a bit relaxed lately, and that has allowed people to get way offtopic.  11:29
ompauland then leads from the armchair behind11:29
jribPriceChild: heh11:29
ompaulPici, yeap but try a mute before a remove11:29
ompaul:)11:29
GaryI have been there when some highly dubious convo's have been in progress though11:29
ompaulPici, and don't be surprised if you are beaten to the trigger11:29
PriceChildIts probably going to be reeeeeeeeally quiet the next few nights :P11:29
PriceChild#kubuntu-offtopic can be a bit.... meh....11:30
PiciA mute is just +b while they're still in channel? or do I need to read up on freenode modes some more/11:30
jribPici: prefix the ban with a % for a mute11:30
gnomefreakPici: its a different mode11:30
PriceChildPici, mute is +q, or a +b with nick prefixed with %11:30
PiciOkay11:30
PriceChilds/nick/username/11:30
=== gnomefreak uses /at nick
gnomefreak:)11:30
gnomefreakmute for ten minutes 11:31
GaryI like Seveas's chanserv.py11:31
jribPici: you have the auto_bleh script for irssi?11:31
Picijrib: I do.11:31
PriceChildhmmm its a Friday11:31
jribPici: /aq    does mute11:31
ompaulPriceChild, yeap kubuntu just had another one of those11:32
PiciI also grabbed a whole bunch of irssi aliases from Aaron Topance's blog that I remember seeing that should help too.11:32
PriceChildompaul, the +1 is in -devel11:32
ompaulPriceChild, saw that11:33
PriceChildwas a little offtopic and random earlier but hasn't done much11:33
gnomefreakwhy is he doing that11:33
gnomefreakhmmmm11:33
ompaulgnomefreak, it is friday 11:33
PriceChildgone now11:33
gnomefreaktrue11:33
ompaulpm them and no answer what can I say11:33
gnomefreakPriceChild: yeah he left without saying anything (good thing)11:33
gnomefreakompaul: oh you saw that than11:33
Garyis there a list of all ubuntu* channels someplace?11:34
gnomefreak!channels11:34
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines11:34
ompaulGary, the ones that matter to this channel are in there11:34
gnomefreak:)11:34
ompaulgary there are lots of other ones11:34
ompaulbut they are not run by the -ops11:34
Garywoo, I can't be in all of them :p11:34
PriceChildmillions of locos, little ones like -server, -adults etc.11:34
robwoohoo, 5 minutes away from gutsy :)11:34
gnomefreakrob: warning: i worked on alot of packages for gutsy so expect breakage ;)11:35
robGary, if needs be I can allow you to join more channels then the limit11:35
robgnomefreak, sure, I expect only the best from you :)11:36
gnomefreak:)11:36
Piciooh...11:36
GaryI might try to join all the "Support and Talk" channels rob 11:36
PriceChildhehe when i requested the channel limit removal the staffer gave me a right grilling :)11:36
robgnomefreak, its ok, if I run into something I can't fix I'll just reinstall, I have backups of everything important 11:36
gnomefreak:) rob 11:36
gnomefreakno fears everything works fairly well atm11:37
=== gnomefreak wonders how hard it would be to take all my chroots off dchroot and move to schroot :(
=== Gary stack overflows
Picieww11:38
Garypardon gnomefreak 11:38
robPriceChild, you didn't ask me then :) But yes, usually we have a look at what channels you need to be in and work something out before giving it out, but as an Ubuntu op I already know you need to be in a fair few.11:38
Garynot like that Pici :p11:38
PiciOh.11:38
PriceChildyup :)11:38
gnomefreakGary: i have like 8 chroots that i run and all are using dchroot but dchroot has been having issues11:38
Garygnomefreak, is that spanish?11:39
robgnomefreak, dchroot having issues in gutsy?11:39
gnomefreakrob: yeah i think its that11:39
PiciGary: Whew. I thought I was the only one that was confused.11:39
gnomefreakrob: corrupt sources.list(or atleast wont connect to net when trying update or upgrade11:39
gnomefreakschroot is not a problem i have heard11:39
robgnomefreak, I hate what they have done with sources.list.d11:40
gnomefreaki remove it most of time :)11:40
robgnomefreak, have you looked in there for the extra apt lines?11:40
robah11:40
gnomefreakno it is only affected when using GUI to add repos afaik11:40
gnomefreakatleast that was the issue in feisty that mvo and i worked on for a while 11:41
roboh, well lucky I rarely use gui tools for package management :)11:41
gnomefreakme too11:41
gnomefreakjust to remove kernels11:41
=== mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Pici] by ChanServ
=== mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Gary] by ChanServ
PriceChildsecond time lucky :)11:43
Garyooow, I feel loved11:44
Garythank you by the way folks11:44
gnomefreaknow that means we have 2 more people we can kick/ban for fun? ;)11:45
robSeveas, would you like Gary cloak updated? I take it he is a member too?11:45
Seveasrob, he is not11:45
Garyrob, no I am not, but I do want to be11:45
gnomefreakrob: i dont think he is (maybe wrong11:45
robyay, need to reboot, hopefully I'll be back in a minute11:45
Seveasrob, this is a way to become member :)11:45
robwow, non-member op. Am I dreaming this?11:46
GarySeveas, yep11:46
Garyyou can member me if you like :-)11:46
PriceChildi wasn't a member when i became an op/mod11:46
robSeveas, I thought it was the other way around11:46
tonyyarussorob: I didnt get my membership until a bit later.11:46
=== jrib is not a member
Seveasrob, we have more non-member ops11:46
roboh, well never mind me..11:46
rob:)11:46
PriceChildhehe :)11:46
=== tonyyarusso cant find his apostrophe key now
PriceChildIts all good11:46
Garygnomefreak, they kick and ban me for fun anyways11:46
PriceChildtonyyarusso, its that little one.... with the little line on it :P11:46
robok, hopefully I'll brb.11:46
gnomefreakoh goodie 11:46
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: next to the enter key11:47
tonyyarussoPriceChild: I using the intl kbd11:47
tonyyarussoOh, found it11:47
tonyyarusso'11:47
gnomefreakon a US board atleast11:47
PriceChildwoo :)11:47
tonyyarussoAlt+the regular key11:47
tonyyarussoRightAlt that is11:47
PriceChildthat's a bit wierd :s11:47
=== tonyyarusso wanted to be able to make things like , for no apparent reason
GaryI can do a  :-)11:48
tonyyarussoNot sure where that is - hold on11:48
tonyyarusso11:48
ompaulej11:49
tonyyarussoffgf11:49
tonyyarussojhfv11:49
tonyyarusso:)11:49
Gary bless11:49
tonyyarussoKnowing where that  is could be handle on (rare) occasion.11:49
ompaul{[] }\ejnJ&J&>N11:50
tonyyarussoJust my 211:50
GaryI can't find a copyright symbol on this mbp11:50
PriceChildtonyyarusso, hehe you'll have forgotten both of those in an hour... i'm willing to bet on it :P11:50
tonyyarussoPriceChild: proll11:51
tonyyarussoy11:51
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robwell, so far so good11:52
robnetwork manager is broken, but god bless ifconfig and dhclient11:52
=== rob wonders where the font config tool went
Garyrob, is this the latest gutsy?11:53
=== gnomefreak wants to know how to make trademark and copyrite symbols :(
gnomefreakrob: system>apperance11:54
Garygnomefreak, copy these?   :-)11:54
gnomefreaksystem>prefference>appearance11:54
gnomefreakGary: there used to be key combos werent there?11:54
robah thanks gnomefreak, I hate looking though those long menus11:55
gnomefreakatleast on aim maybe 5 years ago there was11:55
gnomefreakrob: anytime :)11:55
GaryI wish the install was better on the new macbook pros11:55
Garyif I offer chocolate, do you think the dev's would make it work nice?11:56
gnomefreakGary: the intel macs?11:56
ompaulGary, no, beer, coffee, pizza and some more might help some :)11:56
gnomefreakif you are using mac cds to install (good luck as we moved them to port instead of fully supported11:57
Garygnomefreak, yeah, the new santa-rosa ones, the install can be done, but it's a pain, plus I failed on getting wifi and audio working, and then the nvidia driver failed11:57
gnomefreakaudio is borked atm for alot of users and so is n-m11:57
gnomefreaknvidia easy11:57
tonyyarussoAnybody interested in owning one of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_SX-64 ?11:58
GaryI did get the gpu working, but then later it kinda died, and I was sadly in a real mood, so the machine got wiped - I do that a lot11:58
Garythere are mac cd's?11:59
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: i have C64 in my attic11:59
gnomefreakGary: for the G procs11:59
tonyyarussognomefreak: we're sitting on this one now, trying to sell it11:59
Garyahhh, mine is a intel one11:59
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: find me a free g4 mac and ill buy the C-sx 64 :)12:00
tonyyarussoheh12:00
Garybut I am running gutsy on the big pc, and woo, it's good12:00
gnomefreakatleast i think the g4 was latest12:00
tonyyarussoWe have a monitor, external floppy drive, joysticks, numeric keypad, and a bunch of software as well.12:00
=== mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v rob] by ChanServ
gnomefreakrob: is cs down?12:03
gnomefreakbeen giving me trouble the last 2 days12:03
robno, working fine here12:03
Garynickserv is dead to me too12:04
robmight be a bit of lag we are currently getting hit by a spambot network12:04
gnomefreakits not taking any of my invite requests not info commands12:04
Amaranth!envy12:04
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!12:04
=== gnomefreak just sent self invite again and will let it sit a while see if it is lagging
robwow. Appearances is pretty cool :)12:06
PriceChildI'm not getting anything from cs either :S12:06
GaryPriceChild, it's lagged bigtime12:08
PriceChildhave they been spamming it with registrations perhaps12:09
gnomefreakfor 2 days12:09
gnomefreakoh i see it is lagging bad12:10
gnomefreakmaybe yesterday was a fluke than12:10
robI think the lag in services has fixed itself up, seems to be working good now12:14
gnomefreak!info libnss3-dev gutsy12:20
ubotulibnss3-dev: Development files for the Network Security Service libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 3.11.5-3 (gutsy), package size 232 kB, installed size 1364 kB12:20
gnomefreakyay done finaloly12:27
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PriceChildGrr missed him12:32
gnomefreaklol12:34
gnomefreakPriceChild: it looks like he changed it12:34
gnomefreakor client died12:34
PriceChildnone of the nicks joining looked much like it and nothing on /who so he'll probably be back12:34

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