[01:11] <PriceChild> xero keeps doing something... then apologising afterwards saying "yeah sorry i shouldn't have done that"... even if it wasn't particularly bad...
[01:11] <PriceChild> He seems like he's trying to be a lil naughty
[01:12] <ompaul> so give him a little ban
[01:13] <PriceChild> he's had one from #ubuntu and decided to move onto -offtopic... I'd rather see what happens... I'm sure it won't be long.
[01:13] <ompaul> a mute would be a good start and tell him no debate 10 mins and every line of text he sends you gets him more 
[01:17] <PriceChild> here we go...
 Seriously, what is gnaa?
[01:57] <PriceChild> nalioth, you still around?
[01:57] <nalioth> PriceChild: usually
[01:57] <PriceChild> xero9364 must be a troll after that last random comment... :O
[01:58] <nalioth> you've been watching him
[01:58] <PriceChild> oh wait.... /lastlog shows previous discussion
[01:58] <PriceChild> an hour ago...
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Mez: No lock file to be seen now - must have been cleared by the reboot :(
[06:05] <Mez> tonyyarusso, still there?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Mez: yep
[06:23] <Mez> is gpg wprking no ?
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Nope
[06:51] <ubotu> IcemanV9 called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:56] <jenda> morning
[11:29] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:14] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:49] <ubotu> Pici called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:51] <Gary> mneptok, ping
[03:35] <ubotu> runlevelten called the ops in #kubuntu
[03:36] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i remember that nick from somewhere
[03:39] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: seems like a right pain in the neck
[05:16] <nalioth> !ping
[05:16] <ubotu> host not found
[05:16] <Pici> hmm
[05:16] <nalioth> interesting.
[05:16] <Pici> I guess op doesnt forward here but ops does?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:29] <nalioth> again, we see the ML being used for non ML topics
[05:30] <nalioth> i've told all involved to "ask seveas".  how hard is that?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> nalioth: people are morons, and dont read.
[05:30] <Hobbsee> nalioth: we have at least 2 people today trying to win the "i dont read" award
[05:34] <Zelut> Seveaz: ping
[05:42] <Zelut> nalioth: wtf
[05:43] <nalioth> Zelut: wtf what?
[05:44] <Zelut> nalioth: I think you approached that the wrong way
[05:44] <nalioth> Zelut: probably.  i feel the irc mailing list should not exist
[05:44] <Zelut> nalioth: well that is understandable, mainly I've just seen complaints and whining threads on there
[05:45] <Zelut> nalioth: but when we've tried multiple other methods to no avail we have to keep trying.
[05:45] <nalioth> it is discomforting that the information i provided last week re #ubuntu-louisiana did not make it to you guys, but the ML is not the way to go
[05:46] <Zelut> we've got three of us that have asked just as many ops with nothing done.
[05:47] <nalioth> how many of those ops were members of the (proposed) irc council or seveas?
[05:47] <Zelut> not that you're not doing your job--I'm sure you've got protocol--but go about "reminding us" differently.
[05:47] <nalioth> just because they're ops, doesn't mean they have a clue as to what you want
[05:48] <Seveas> nalioth, Zelut: I've seen pm's from people but they were sent while I was away and when I was back they weren't here
[05:48] <nalioth> Zelut: here he is, ask him now.
[05:48] <Zelut> Seveas: would memoserv be a better solution for that?
[05:49] <Seveas> Zelut, or coming here :)
[05:49] <Seveas> anyway
[05:49] <vorian> I'm apologize nalioth and Seveas.  I wasn't trying to stir up controversy. 
[05:49] <Seveas> I just got back from a planning meeteing, I'll be giving an ubuntu presentation for a few hundred people in november :)
[05:50] <Seveas> #ubuntu-louisiana is currently not registered. Was it dropped by the original owner or freenode staff?
[05:51] <nalioth> Seveas: it is registered
[05:51] <Zelut> Seveas: when I've done a 'access #ubuntu-louisiana list' it shows reg'd by speeddemon8803.
[05:51] <nalioth> Seveas: do you wish it to be owned by [whomever]  ?
[05:51] <nalioth> Zelut: has not asked his question yet
[05:51] <Seveas> ah, made a typo before
[05:52] <Seveas> nalioth, he's done so before
[05:52] <nalioth> Seveas: name the owner, and i'll make it so
[05:52] <Zelut> Seveas: we'd like it to be owned by axxium
[05:53] <Seveas> <bad star trek impersonation coming up>
[05:53] <Seveas> make it so!
[05:53] <Seveas> <apologies to all star trek fans>
[05:54] <nalioth> done
[05:55] <Seveas> thanks nalioth 
[05:56] <nalioth> can we vote to can the mailing list?
[05:56] <Hobbsee> ooh, yes please
[05:57] <Seveas> I see no reason to do that
[05:57] <Hobbsee> oh wait, that's right, Seveas cant hear me anyway.
[06:33] <Seveas> nalioth, still here?
[06:35] <Seveas> doesn't look like it
[06:35] <Seveas> !staff
[06:35] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:36] <nalioth> Seveas: yes?
[06:36] <seanw> Wjhat's up?
[06:36] <seanw> Oh, nalioth can handle it
[06:36] <Seveas> nalioth, aarghhh, do you need a !staff to show up? ;)
[06:36] <Seveas> nalioth, please cloak coNP with an Ubuntu cloak
[06:36] <nalioth> Seveas: no, you need a bit more patience
[06:36] <Seveas> nalioth, yeah, people keep saying that
[06:37] <nalioth> 2 minutes is a little quick
[06:37] <Seveas> Don't know why, I always wait 5 seconds :)
[06:37] <nalioth> cloaked
[06:38] <nalioth> Seveas: thought for your brain bucket:  some GCs hit me with a PM cloak request and it gets done when i see it
[06:48] <Pici> Can an op please take care of kmindi|ibm-t20 in #ubuntu. He/she/it seems to be saying 'hi folg' every 2 minutes since :25
[07:21] <ubotu> In ubotu, Pici said: tribe is <reply> If you are running a Tribe(alpha) version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the latest Tribe of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[07:23] <PriceChild> !tribe
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <PriceChild> Hmm I'm sure there's another factoid about that... *looks*
[07:24] <Pici> Theres !herd and !final, but they both reference Feisty.
[07:24] <Pici> I just switched it around for Gutsy and made it more applicable to a non-final release.
[07:25] <PriceChild> I'll update "final" then
[07:26] <Pici> For whatever reason there where herd1,herd2 .. etc factoids for feisty.
[07:27] <ubotu> In ubotu, PriceChild said: no final is <reply> If you are installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[07:27] <PriceChild> grr
[07:27] <PriceChild> Right so that's ok isn't it?
[07:27] <Gary> are installed?
[07:27] <PriceChild> whoops
[07:27] <PriceChild> fixed
[07:27] <Pici> Sounds good to me.
[07:30] <jenda> PriceChild: what's up with #ubuntu-luisiana ?
[07:30] <nalioth> jenda: it's been solved
[07:30] <PriceChild> jenda, looks like its not refistered...
[07:30] <jenda> ok
[07:30] <PriceChild> did you spell it wrong?
[07:30] <jenda> PriceChild: louisiana, sorry
[07:30] <jenda> hehe
[07:31] <jenda> CoC, nalioth, Coc :)
[07:31] <nalioth> jenda: it's fixed / solved / taken care of / no longer a problem 
[07:31] <nalioth> it's irritating to me, cuz i told them last week how to get it taken care of
[07:33] <jenda> o
[07:33] <jenda> *ok
[07:34] <nalioth> ... and now we're in for 3 more weeks of responses to an issue that had no need to see the ml at all
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[07:50] <Gary> erm, wrong channel, sorry :p
[07:50] <nalioth> Gary: you have title to land?
[07:50] <Gary> dessert I meant
[07:50] <nalioth> Gary: or are you off on your spelling today?
[07:50] <Gary> I kan speel rite
[08:22] <ubotu> Norrel called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:22] <ubotu> fyrestrtr called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:01] <ubotu> Pici called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:17] <ubotu> Arwen called the ops in #ubuntu+1
[10:31] <Seveas> !ops
[10:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:31] <ubotu> Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[10:31] <Seveas> What do y'all think of pici as op?
[10:32] <ompaul> go for it
[10:32] <PriceChild> +1
[10:32] <nixternal> -4
[10:32] <Amaranth> +1
[10:32] <nixternal> ;)
[10:32] <PriceChild> I suggested him a week ago or so
[10:32] <PriceChild> :P
[10:32] <Seveas> ah
[10:32] <Seveas> missed that
[10:32] <nixternal> -6 now that PriceChild recommended him
[10:32] <PriceChild> You were away
[10:32] <PriceChild> What do you all think of de-op'ing nixternal?
[10:32] <PriceChild> :P
[10:32] <nixternal> +1
[10:32] <nixternal> :)
[10:32] <Seveas> +1000
[10:32] <nixternal> ouch
[10:33] <PriceChild> btw new series of "The IT Crowd" on channel 4 in uk right now woooooo :D
[10:33] <Seveas> PriceChild, who responded last week?
[10:33] <Seveas> and what was the response?
[10:33] <Seveas> :)
[10:34] <Seveas> haha
[10:34] <ompaul> nixternal, NO CAN MAKE NOISE
[10:34] <ompaul> :)
[10:34] <PriceChild> I didn't like doing anything without you aruond.... seen as you're still really in charge... because of that I don't think we really discussed it much but there were a few other suggestions from nalio.th iirc
[10:34] <nixternal> orly
[10:36] <Seveas> PriceChild, shame... no need to wait for me -- I'm fine with others proposing/voting for ops
[10:36] <ubotu> MrObvious called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:36] <Seveas> PriceChild, given that I'm so damn unavailable that only makes sense
[10:38] <gnomefreak> stormx seems to have his good days and bad
[10:38] <Seveas> scary, he's in ##trangle :)
[10:39] <Seveas> (pici)
[10:39] <ompaul> would one of you like to explain to MrO that !ops is not a stick to beat people with - better to ask them to be polite in polite company?
[10:43] <ompaul> perhaps as a pm
[10:43] <PriceChild> Will do ompaul 
[10:45] <ompaul> we want people to know it is nice to be nice
[10:51] <ompaul> Seveas, want to try him out in -offtopic to see how he handles the grief for a bit
[10:51] <PriceChild> baptism of fire
[10:51] <Seveas> hehe
[10:51] <ompaul> PriceChild, no, I think that he does not have to do anything other than ping one of us for support in there
[10:51] <Seveas> hi Pici 
[10:52] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks for cutting me off in my prime :P
[10:52] <Pici> Oh hey, I'm back.
[10:52] <ompaul> to it appears
[10:52] <ompaul> so it appears
[10:52] <Seveas> Pici, what do you think about being an operator?
[10:53] <Pumpernickel> It's too late for us, but you can still escape.  Save yourself!
[10:53] <ompaul> wonders about his lag
[10:54] <Pici> Seveas: I think that if I was asked, I would definitly accept and that it has been my hope as a supporter of Ubuntu and the Ubuntu support channels to eventually be able to climb into that role.
[10:54] <Seveas> Pici, want to try if you can manage being an op in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:54] <Pici> Seveas: Sure.
[10:54] <PriceChild> Good reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[10:55] <Seveas> -ChanServ- [Pici]  has been added to the access list for #ubuntu-offtopic with level [10] 
[10:55] <ompaul> Seveas, tell ubotu
[10:55] <Seveas> and please read that document PriceChild linked to, it's a good read indeed :)
[10:55] <ompaul> Pici, which irc client do you use
[10:55] <Pici> I will, I'm looking at it right now.
[10:55] <Pici> ompaul: irssi.
[10:56] <ompaul> ahh one of the dark side :)
[10:56] <Seveas> !ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/
[10:56] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, Seveas said: !ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/
[10:56] <Seveas> meh
[10:56] <Seveas> @login
[10:56] <Seveas> !ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/
[10:56] <PriceChild> :)
[10:56] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[10:56] <ompaul> PriceChild, you got something for irssi for Pici ?
[10:56] <PriceChild> Yeah
[10:56] <PriceChild> one second...
[10:57] <ompaul> Pici, PriceChild will sort you out with some scriptz for operators 
[10:57] <ompaul> makes life easy
[10:57] <Pici> ompaul: I figured ;)
[10:58] <PriceChild> hmm I've lost my copy
[10:58] <Pumpernickel> auto_bleh?
[10:58] <PriceChild> yeah
[10:58] <PriceChild> just found one on google though
[10:58] <Pumpernickel> Ah, good.
[10:58] <Pici> No more irssi for PriceChild?
[10:59] <PriceChild> http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/auto_bleh.pl_
[10:59] <PriceChild> nalioth, should know where the latest version is when he comes back.
[11:00] <PriceChild> I think that is the latest one though.
[11:06] <Seveas> tsk tsk
[11:06] <mneptok> O:)
[11:06] <Seveas> Gossip time
[11:06] <Seveas> !ops
[11:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[11:06] <ubotu> Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[11:06] <Seveas> Gary for op?
[11:07] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, gary for op?
[11:07] <PriceChild> I'd be happy with that
[11:07] <mneptok> +1
[11:07] <ompaul> yeap gazzak as he used to call himself
[11:07] <gnomefreak> whos gary?
[11:07] <Amaranth> Who?
[11:07] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, gazzak
[11:07] <PriceChild> Amaranth, ^
[11:07] <Amaranth> oh
[11:07] <Seveas> been around in -offtopic since ever
[11:08] <Amaranth> no vote from me, i don't have an opinion on him either way
[11:08] <gnomefreak> sounds good to me
[11:08] <ompaul> +1
[11:08] <ompaul> nalioth, ?
[11:08] <PriceChild> Pici, how weak :)
[11:08] <PriceChild> He's away I think ompaul..
[11:08] <ompaul> ahh
[11:08] <ompaul> so I see
[11:08] <PriceChild> I've pinged him enough with no response :P
[11:08] <ompaul> Seveas, do it
[11:08] <ompaul> I think the others are happy
[11:09] <ompaul> elkbuntu, ?
[11:09] <PriceChild> She's bedded
[11:09] <ompaul> jenda, ?
[11:09] <ompaul> jrib, ?
[11:09] <jrib> ompaul: ?
[11:09] <ompaul> the subject is gary for op 
[11:09] <PriceChild> I think we should get hobbsee and elkbuntu to suggest at least one from the other side of the world...
[11:10] <Seveas> good idea
[11:10] <jrib> don't really know gary, but fine with me from what I've seen
[11:10] <Pici> Is it just 'time for more ops' or is someone planning on leaving? Or.. something else?
[11:10] <ompaul> Pici, there are more needed
[11:10] <PriceChild> Pici, I'm sorry we're not authorised to tell you that.
[11:10] <PriceChild> awww ompaul :(
[11:11] <Seveas> Pici, someone's leaving
[11:11] <ompaul> PriceChild, I could tell him the truth then I would have to kill you :)
[11:11] <Seveas> (yay, full confusion!)
[11:11] <PriceChild> pirates!
[11:11] <Pici> Now my brain hurts.
[11:11] <ompaul> Yaaaaa!"
[11:11] <ompaul> Seveas, can I ask gary back at this stage ?
[11:11] <ompaul> more like may but what the hell
[11:11] <Seveas> he's been idle for hours
[11:12] <ompaul> well he is invited
[11:12] <Seveas> twice then :)
[11:12] <Seveas> --- You're inviting Gary to #ubuntu-ops (simmons.freenode.net)
[11:12] <ompaul> * You've invited Gary to #ubuntu-ops (simmons.freenode.net)
[11:18] <Gary> hello
[11:18] <gnomefreak> hello
[11:18] <Pici> Hi Gary!
[11:19] <jrib> welcome Gary 
[11:19] <Gary> Hi Ya
[11:19] <ompaul> ohh look tis gazzak
[11:19] <ompaul> :)
[11:19] <Gary> :-)
[11:19] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, benn92647 said: ubotu to is a sexybot
[11:19] <ompaul> hi there youngfella
[11:19] <jrib> wait Gary == gazzak?  that changes things
[11:19] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:19] <Gary> jrib, lol
[11:20] <gnomefreak> brb this PPA crap is getting to me
[11:20] <ompaul> Seveas, Oi!
[11:20] <Gary> did you have a question for me?
[11:21] <PriceChild> If midnight_abuse comes back then he needs to change his quit message IMO
[11:21] <Stormx2> Hmm, what did she do?
[11:21] <ompaul> Gary, there is one if only Seveas would get his brain together
[11:21] <Stormx2> Oh, I see.
[11:21] <ompaul> Seveas, .. ping
[11:22] <ompaul> that was me - will it get his attention
[11:22] <ompaul> Gary, he'll be back in a sec methinks
[11:23] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[11:23] <ompaul> PriceChild, methinks you should ask it given Seveas not being here (again)
[11:23] <ompaul> he said so at the start of this whole convo
[11:23] <gnomefreak> LMAO at who should ask
[11:24] <PriceChild> Gary, How do you feel about operating?
[11:24] <ompaul> gnomefreak, well I won't - for being not close enough to ubuntu - like I am close but not close enough
[11:24] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:24] <Gary> well I was gonna cut and paste Pici's answer, but Tom said plagiarism is bad :-)
[11:24] <PriceChild> haha
[11:25] <ompaul> haha
[11:25] <Gary> but my feeling is the same
[11:25] <Pici> Hey, now I dont feel bad for taking so long ;)
[11:25] <ompaul> great
[11:25] <PriceChild> Gary, incase you haven't read it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[11:25] <PriceChild> Gary, the idea is we let you in on #ubuntu-offtopic like Pici and see how you do for a little while :)
[11:25] <Gary> read em and try to follow em when I got ops in -uk
[11:26] <ompaul> smart alec :)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> so Pici and Gary == ops?
[11:26] <PriceChild> hehe are we allowed to change our opinions ompaul?
[11:26] <Pici> Scary, isnt it?
[11:26] <ompaul> PriceChild, you can
[11:26] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, of -offtopic for the time being.
[11:26] <ompaul> but then you have to argue with Mark S
[11:26] <jrib> -offtopic is harder to op though
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[11:26] <ompaul> jrib, I for one would not expect them to "own" it
[11:27] <ompaul> we are there
[11:27] <gnomefreak> has offtopic been that bad lately? ive been gone for a while
[11:27] <PriceChild> It was nasty last night... quite a lot against me.
[11:27] <ompaul> but they could do a little to get people to calm down
[11:27] <PriceChild> managed to get away without access thguoh
[11:27] <Gary> I've not seen it that bad, but a bit of abuse as normal
[11:27] <ompaul> PriceChild, sorry I was not able to stay more than was there
[11:27] <Pici> Its been a bit hectic lately.
[11:27] <gnomefreak> same trouble makers?
[11:28] <ompaul> hopefully I had been a little bit of help
[11:28] <Pici> Not really, just random people coming in.
[11:28] <ompaul> gnomefreak, na, we had to mode +m it a couple of times
[11:28] <jrib> well, in #ubuntu it's pretty clear cut, in -offtopic it's usually !o4o stuff where people tend to get more heated
[11:28] <ompaul> in the last couple of days
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:28] <ompaul> gnomefreak, care to give it a bit of gnome love :)
[11:29] <PriceChild> I loved that bit when I said that war was !o4o... then they said it wasn't and explained it was a political discussion :P
[11:29] <Pici> imo, the rules have been a bit relaxed lately, and that has allowed people to get way offtopic.  
[11:29] <ompaul> and then leads from the armchair behind
[11:29] <jrib> PriceChild: heh
[11:29] <ompaul> Pici, yeap but try a mute before a remove
[11:29] <ompaul> :)
[11:29] <Gary> I have been there when some highly dubious convo's have been in progress though
[11:29] <ompaul> Pici, and don't be surprised if you are beaten to the trigger
[11:29] <PriceChild> Its probably going to be reeeeeeeeally quiet the next few nights :P
[11:30] <PriceChild> #kubuntu-offtopic can be a bit.... meh....
[11:30] <Pici> A mute is just +b while they're still in channel? or do I need to read up on freenode modes some more/
[11:30] <jrib> Pici: prefix the ban with a % for a mute
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Pici: its a different mode
[11:30] <PriceChild> Pici, mute is +q, or a +b with nick prefixed with %
[11:30] <Pici> Okay
[11:30] <PriceChild> s/nick/username/
[11:30] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:31] <gnomefreak> mute for ten minutes 
[11:31] <Gary> I like Seveas's chanserv.py
[11:31] <jrib> Pici: you have the auto_bleh script for irssi?
[11:31] <Pici> jrib: I do.
[11:31] <PriceChild> hmmm its a Friday
[11:31] <jrib> Pici: /aq    does mute
[11:32] <ompaul> PriceChild, yeap kubuntu just had another one of those
[11:32] <Pici> I also grabbed a whole bunch of irssi aliases from Aaron Topance's blog that I remember seeing that should help too.
[11:32] <PriceChild> ompaul, the +1 is in -devel
[11:33] <ompaul> PriceChild, saw that
[11:33] <PriceChild> was a little offtopic and random earlier but hasn't done much
[11:33] <gnomefreak> why is he doing that
[11:33] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[11:33] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it is friday 
[11:33] <PriceChild> gone now
[11:33] <gnomefreak> true
[11:33] <ompaul> pm them and no answer what can I say
[11:33] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: yeah he left without saying anything (good thing)
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ompaul: oh you saw that than
[11:34] <Gary> is there a list of all ubuntu* channels someplace?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !channels
[11:34] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[11:34] <ompaul> Gary, the ones that matter to this channel are in there
[11:34] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:34] <ompaul> gary there are lots of other ones
[11:34] <ompaul> but they are not run by the -ops
[11:34] <Gary> woo, I can't be in all of them :p
[11:34] <PriceChild> millions of locos, little ones like -server, -adults etc.
[11:34] <rob> woohoo, 5 minutes away from gutsy :)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> rob: warning: i worked on alot of packages for gutsy so expect breakage ;)
[11:35] <rob> Gary, if needs be I can allow you to join more channels then the limit
[11:36] <rob> gnomefreak, sure, I expect only the best from you :)
[11:36] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:36] <Pici> ooh...
[11:36] <Gary> I might try to join all the "Support and Talk" channels rob 
[11:36] <PriceChild> hehe when i requested the channel limit removal the staffer gave me a right grilling :)
[11:36] <rob> gnomefreak, its ok, if I run into something I can't fix I'll just reinstall, I have backups of everything important 
[11:36] <gnomefreak> :) rob 
[11:37] <gnomefreak> no fears everything works fairly well atm
[11:38] <Pici> eww
[11:38] <Gary> pardon gnomefreak 
[11:38] <rob> PriceChild, you didn't ask me then :) But yes, usually we have a look at what channels you need to be in and work something out before giving it out, but as an Ubuntu op I already know you need to be in a fair few.
[11:38] <Gary> not like that Pici :p
[11:38] <Pici> Oh.
[11:38] <PriceChild> yup :)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Gary: i have like 8 chroots that i run and all are using dchroot but dchroot has been having issues
[11:39] <Gary> gnomefreak, is that spanish?
[11:39] <rob> gnomefreak, dchroot having issues in gutsy?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> rob: yeah i think its that
[11:39] <Pici> Gary: Whew. I thought I was the only one that was confused.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> rob: corrupt sources.list(or atleast wont connect to net when trying update or upgrade
[11:39] <gnomefreak> schroot is not a problem i have heard
[11:40] <rob> gnomefreak, I hate what they have done with sources.list.d
[11:40] <gnomefreak> i remove it most of time :)
[11:40] <rob> gnomefreak, have you looked in there for the extra apt lines?
[11:40] <rob> ah
[11:40] <gnomefreak> no it is only affected when using GUI to add repos afaik
[11:41] <gnomefreak> atleast that was the issue in feisty that mvo and i worked on for a while 
[11:41] <rob> oh, well lucky I rarely use gui tools for package management :)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> me too
[11:41] <gnomefreak> just to remove kernels
[11:43] <PriceChild> second time lucky :)
[11:44] <Gary> ooow, I feel loved
[11:44] <Gary> thank you by the way folks
[11:45] <gnomefreak> now that means we have 2 more people we can kick/ban for fun? ;)
[11:45] <rob> Seveas, would you like Gary cloak updated? I take it he is a member too?
[11:45] <Seveas> rob, he is not
[11:45] <Gary> rob, no I am not, but I do want to be
[11:45] <gnomefreak> rob: i dont think he is (maybe wrong
[11:45] <rob> yay, need to reboot, hopefully I'll be back in a minute
[11:45] <Seveas> rob, this is a way to become member :)
[11:46] <rob> wow, non-member op. Am I dreaming this?
[11:46] <Gary> Seveas, yep
[11:46] <Gary> you can member me if you like :-)
[11:46] <PriceChild> i wasn't a member when i became an op/mod
[11:46] <rob> Seveas, I thought it was the other way around
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> rob: I didnt get my membership until a bit later.
[11:46] <Seveas> rob, we have more non-member ops
[11:46] <rob> oh, well never mind me..
[11:46] <rob> :)
[11:46] <PriceChild> hehe :)
[11:46] <PriceChild> Its all good
[11:46] <Gary> gnomefreak, they kick and ban me for fun anyways
[11:46] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, its that little one.... with the little line on it :P
[11:46] <rob> ok, hopefully I'll brb.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> oh goodie 
[11:47] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: next to the enter key
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: I using the intl kbd
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> Oh, found it
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> '
[11:47] <gnomefreak> on a US board atleast
[11:47] <PriceChild> woo :)
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> Alt+the regular key
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> RightAlt that is
[11:47] <PriceChild> that's a bit wierd :s
[11:48] <Gary> I can do a  :-)
[11:48] <tonyyarusso> Not sure where that is - hold on
[11:48] <tonyyarusso> 
[11:49] <ompaul> ej
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> ffgf
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> jhfv
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> :)
[11:49] <Gary>  bless
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> Knowing where that  is could be handle on (rare) occasion.
[11:50] <ompaul> {[] }\ejnJ&J&>N
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> Just my 2
[11:50] <Gary> I can't find a copyright symbol on this mbp
[11:50] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, hehe you'll have forgotten both of those in an hour... i'm willing to bet on it :P
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: proll
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> y
[11:52] <rob> well, so far so good
[11:52] <rob> network manager is broken, but god bless ifconfig and dhclient
[11:53] <Gary> rob, is this the latest gutsy?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> rob: system>apperance
[11:54] <Gary> gnomefreak, copy these?   :-)
[11:54] <gnomefreak> system>prefference>appearance
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Gary: there used to be key combos werent there?
[11:55] <rob> ah thanks gnomefreak, I hate looking though those long menus
[11:55] <gnomefreak> atleast on aim maybe 5 years ago there was
[11:55] <gnomefreak> rob: anytime :)
[11:55] <Gary> I wish the install was better on the new macbook pros
[11:56] <Gary> if I offer chocolate, do you think the dev's would make it work nice?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Gary: the intel macs?
[11:56] <ompaul> Gary, no, beer, coffee, pizza and some more might help some :)
[11:57] <gnomefreak> if you are using mac cds to install (good luck as we moved them to port instead of fully supported
[11:57] <Gary> gnomefreak, yeah, the new santa-rosa ones, the install can be done, but it's a pain, plus I failed on getting wifi and audio working, and then the nvidia driver failed
[11:57] <gnomefreak> audio is borked atm for alot of users and so is n-m
[11:57] <gnomefreak> nvidia easy
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> Anybody interested in owning one of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_SX-64 ?
[11:58] <Gary> I did get the gpu working, but then later it kinda died, and I was sadly in a real mood, so the machine got wiped - I do that a lot
[11:59] <Gary> there are mac cd's?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: i have C64 in my attic
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Gary: for the G procs
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: we're sitting on this one now, trying to sell it
[11:59] <Gary> ahhh, mine is a intel one
[12:00] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: find me a free g4 mac and ill buy the C-sx 64 :)
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> heh
[12:00] <Gary> but I am running gutsy on the big pc, and woo, it's good
[12:00] <gnomefreak> atleast i think the g4 was latest
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> We have a monitor, external floppy drive, joysticks, numeric keypad, and a bunch of software as well.
[12:03] <gnomefreak> rob: is cs down?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> been giving me trouble the last 2 days
[12:03] <rob> no, working fine here
[12:04] <Gary> nickserv is dead to me too
[12:04] <rob> might be a bit of lag we are currently getting hit by a spambot network
[12:04] <gnomefreak> its not taking any of my invite requests not info commands
[12:04] <Amaranth> !envy
[12:04] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:06] <rob> wow. Appearances is pretty cool :)
[12:06] <PriceChild> I'm not getting anything from cs either :S
[12:08] <Gary> PriceChild, it's lagged bigtime
[12:09] <PriceChild> have they been spamming it with registrations perhaps
[12:09] <gnomefreak> for 2 days
[12:10] <gnomefreak> oh i see it is lagging bad
[12:10] <gnomefreak> maybe yesterday was a fluke than
[12:14] <rob> I think the lag in services has fixed itself up, seems to be working good now
[12:20] <gnomefreak> !info libnss3-dev gutsy
[12:20] <ubotu> libnss3-dev: Development files for the Network Security Service libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 3.11.5-3 (gutsy), package size 232 kB, installed size 1364 kB
[12:27] <gnomefreak> yay done finaloly
[12:32] <PriceChild> Grr missed him
[12:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:34] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: it looks like he changed it
[12:34] <gnomefreak> or client died
[12:34] <PriceChild> none of the nicks joining looked much like it and nothing on /who so he'll probably be back