[02:33] <ryubahamut> Hello there, can someone assist me with downloading xubuntu through jigsaw?
[03:56] <atarinox> anybody know a program for burning .cdi images?
[03:56] <Jester45> umm
[03:57] <DocPheniX> cdi images are handled by discjuggler
[03:57] <DocPheniX> its a windows only application
[03:57] <DocPheniX> as far as im aware they dont have a linux version
[03:57] <atarinox> oh ok...
[04:00] <Jester45> you can use wine
[04:00] <Jester45> and some windows apps to convert/use it
[04:01] <Jester45> idk why people use non standard formats
[04:01] <atarinox> think ill just sort it out on my windows box
[04:01] <atarinox> looks like there's a free trial of discjuggler
[04:03] <DocPheniX> cdi is a great format, it has unique uses
[04:03] <DocPheniX> it might work in wine
[04:03] <DocPheniX> ive never tried
[04:17] <javier> hello
[04:17] <javier> need some help with xubuntu
[04:17] <javier> anybody there?
[04:19] <vidd_laptop> what kind of help?
[04:19] <javier> I don't know how to remove a pendrive from xubuntu
[04:20] <javier> kingston - datatraveler
[04:20] <vidd_laptop> ?
[04:20] <vidd_laptop> pull it out
[04:20] <vidd_laptop> it will auto-umount
[04:20] <javier> but the light on the pendrive is on
[04:21] <Jester45> xubuntu is not windows you dont have to eject it
[04:21] <vidd_laptop> or add the disk mount applet to the panel and make the call to unmount it there
[04:21] <Jester45> just wait for data to stop traveling and pull it out
[04:21] <Jester45> OR
[04:21] <Jester45> open it in the terminal
[04:21] <javier> just unmount... no need for light on pendrive off ?
[04:22] <Jester45> type sudo umount -l /path/in/thunar
[04:22] <Jester45> probly /media/disk
[04:22] <Jester45> javier, as long as your not transfering data to it just pull it out
[04:22] <Jester45> once again linux != windows
[04:23] <Jester45> windows makes you do things that you shouldnt have to
[04:23] <javier> ok, I thought (as in windows) that first you have to turn off the pendrive
[04:24] <Jester45> like defrag your harddrive, reboot to install programs, reboot to make the system speed up, reinstall every 3 months
[04:24] <javier> ahh yes, defrag is a nightmare
[04:24] <Jester45> just make sure your not copying thigs to it
[04:25] <javier> ok so first unmount, the just pull it out
[04:25] <javier> thank you jester45
[04:25] <Jester45> you CAN defrag linux but its experimental software and linux will only frag to 5% a most like on servers normal desktops dont even get that high
[04:25] <Jester45> you dont even have to umount
[04:25] <Jester45> it will auto umount
[04:26] <javier> ahh so there is no cache ?
[04:26] <Jester45> nope
[04:26] <Jester45> see
[04:26] <Jester45> its better
[04:27] <javier> ok, I'll try now
[04:32] <javier> Jester45! "Cannot unmount Volume an application is preventing the volumen KINSTON from being unmounted"
[04:33] <javier> "Unable to unmount KINGSTON Unknow Error"
[04:33] <javier> got that  :(
[04:47] <vidd_laptop> nalioth, how long after i take down the tor server will it be before my bot can work again?
[04:47] <nalioth> vidd_laptop: which IP is blocked?
[04:47] <vidd_laptop> umm....
[04:47] <vidd_laptop> 216.155.0.100
[04:54] <twb> on the feisty live cd, what provides gdm-cdd.conf?  dpkg -S doesn't know.
[04:57] <nalioth> vidd_laptop: the kline has been removed.  if tor is detected, it'll snap back in place quicker than a school yard bully gives a wedgie
[04:59] <vidd_laptop> nalioth, if tor gets back on my server...someone will be losing privileges faster then kline!
[04:59] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[04:59] <vidd_laptop> tyvm
[05:05] <jgamio> hello wich app shoul i use to make a vcd with 3 movies ?
[05:05] <twb> Ah, it's an alternative
[05:09] <Jester45> nalioth, whats wrong with tor and freenode
[05:10] <nalioth> Jester45: nothing at all
[05:11] <Jester45> then why do they force people running the server to use the hiddenservice
[05:13] <Jester45> i just figured that they needed a lot more bandwidth on the tor network and vidd's 2 servers both have 100mbit and we only used a bit of it
[05:14] <Jester45> mostly running a irc bot and now torrents
[05:27] <laserbeak43> hi anyone know of a nice c++ sockets tutorial?
[05:31] <m0u5e> will a more complete composite manager be built into xubu gusty?
[05:31] <Jester45> more complete? what is it missing
[05:31] <Jester45> i would hope for a faster one
[05:31] <maxamillion> m0u5e: i don't follow? ... Xfce4.4 has a *very* complete composite manager
[05:31] <m0u5e> yeah that would be nice
[05:32] <maxamillion> Jester45: it is fast if you have the right drivers for your graphics card
[05:32] <Jester45> but... it doesnt use opengl to make it faster
[05:32] <Jester45> i di
[05:32] <Jester45> do
[05:32] <m0u5e> yeah, i was hoping they'd openGL it :D
[05:32] <maxamillion> the 4.4 composite manager will offload to the graphics card through overloading mesa just like it should
[05:32] <Jester45> full accelerated and 2.5x overclocked
[05:33] <maxamillion> but once again ... you need the right drivers
[05:33] <m0u5e> im using a i845 card... -_-;
[05:33] <m0u5e> its just slow when i resize w/ transparancy
[05:34] <m0u5e> or move large windows
[05:34] <m0u5e> will the composite manager ever integrate compiz like features into it?
[05:35] <m0u5e> like a window organizer when you go to the corners of the screen? :)
[05:35] <Jester45> i found that mine is slow when i use beryl and 75% transparent mplayers staked
[05:35] <maxamillion> m0u5e: no, that's not the kind of compositing window manager xfwm4 is
[05:35] <laserbeak43> really?
[05:35] <Jester45> but... i would REALLY love to have xfwm have an option to only decorate
[05:36] <laserbeak43> beryl is suprisingly fast on my laptop
[05:36] <m0u5e> Jester45: yeah... my computer definitely slows down when im using transparent mplayer
[05:36] <Jester45> so that compiz so do the cool stuff and fast
[05:36] <laserbeak43> oh transparent mplayer
[05:36] <laserbeak43> havent tried that
[05:36] <Jester45> its quite good
[05:36] <m0u5e> laserbreak43: try using a transparent mplayer running h.264 media... if your laptop can do it... send it me O_O;
[05:36] <maxamillion> beryl is dead ... you should be running compiz fusion by now
[05:36] <laserbeak43> audacious reminds me of winamp
[05:36] <Jester45> you can full screen a movie and watch it while watching other things
[05:36] <laserbeak43> so i like that :)
[05:37] <m0u5e> i use audacious :)
[05:37] <maxamillion> i can understand not running it while it was under development, but they released
[05:37] <m0u5e> compiz-fusion has been released?
[05:37] <laserbeak43> m0u5e: lol h.264 whats that? been hearing a lot about it
[05:37] <m0u5e> i thought it was still alpha? :X
[05:37] <laserbeak43> Jester45: that sounds cool
[05:37] <m0u5e> laserbeak43: new encoding technology? its meant to replace divx, xvid, etc
[05:37] <Jester45> laserbeak43, its higher compressed video codec compared to xvid
[05:37] <m0u5e> err its my apple and someone, dont remember who
[05:38] <m0u5e> steep cpu requirement though
[05:38] <maxamillion> m0u5e: yeah, they released 0.5.2 almost 3 weeks ago
[05:38] <maxamillion> m0u5e: i think there is a third party repo with a ubuntu package with it already
[05:38] <Jester45> i would guess 2x or more cycles for the same video
[05:38] <Jester45> but much smaller file
[05:38] <laserbeak43> m0u5e: u running 64-bit?
[05:38] <m0u5e> laserbeak43: no, lol old p4 2.8ghz
[05:39] <laserbeak43> oh yeah
[05:39] <laserbeak43> my school financial aid got me this dual core comp
[05:39] <laserbeak43> so that's probably why it runs smoother
[05:39] <laserbeak43> my p4 2.4 prolly couldnt handlle all this
[05:39] <Jester45> anyone know where to look to see what DNS server your using
[05:40] <laserbeak43> yeah
[05:40] <m0u5e> do you know the 3rd party repos w/ compiz fusion 0.5.2?
[05:40] <laserbeak43> in the network manager
[05:40] <laserbeak43> right/
[05:40] <laserbeak43> ?
[05:40] <Jester45> on a server
[05:40] <m0u5e> Jester45: does ifconfig give you that?
[05:40] <laserbeak43> m0u5e: try #compiz-fusion
[05:40] <m0u5e> laserbeak43: thx
[05:41] <maxamillion> laserbeak43: what's the graphics card? ... i've seen beryl run on a 333mhz machine with 192mb of ram because it had a 64mb nvidia card with the latest drivers so all the 3d was offloaded to the graphics card... only took about 30mb extra of system ram
[05:41] <Jester45> humm
[05:42] <laserbeak43> really?
[05:42] <laserbeak43> cool
[05:42] <laserbeak43> i have an old radeon 9700 or something like that in my 2.4ghz machine
[05:43] <laserbeak43> this lappie just uses integrated intel graphics
[05:43] <m0u5e> maxamillion: compiz is slow on my machine though :(
[05:43] <maxamillion> laserbeak43: hmmm... ATI isn't so good, intel might work if you get the opensource graphics drivers and you have enough ram
[05:43] <m0u5e> laserbeak43: yeah, the i8xx chips are a little slower
[05:43] <laserbeak43> i'm runnign beryl now
[05:43] <Jester45> ati is greate
[05:43] <laserbeak43> and it's really smooth
[05:44] <laserbeak43> ati sucks balls for linux
[05:44] <Jester45> nope
[05:44] <maxamillion> laserbeak43: actually the ATI *might* work, but you need to get the ati drivers working right
[05:44] <maxamillion> laserbeak43: oh ... nvm
[05:44] <maxamillion> lol
[05:44] <laserbeak43> i pulled the card out and used my onboard grapics
[05:44] <Jester45> all you need is to get 3d accell and then rovclock -c 400 -m 80
[05:45] <Jester45> or a higher -c
[05:45] <m0u5e> Jester45: know anyways i can squeeze a little more juice out of my i845 card?
[05:45] <Jester45> nope
[05:49] <m0u5e> lol
[05:49] <m0u5e> do you think theres any chance for xubuntu to openGL xfwm?
[05:50] <maxamillion> m0u5e: xubuntu doesn't maintain xfwm, xfce does ... go to www.xfce.org and put in a feature request
[05:50] <m0u5e> oh yeah haha -_-;
[05:50] <laserbeak43> no opengl in xfce?
[05:51] <laserbeak43> it still kicks butt
[05:51] <m0u5e> blah, if i use compiz do i have to use metacity?
[05:51] <laserbeak43> the 3d is nice
[05:51] <m0u5e> i cant use xfwm?
[05:51] <m0u5e> or will it be slower then metacity?
[05:51] <maxamillion> m0u5e: compiz replaces metacity
[05:51] <laserbeak43> i use and recommend xfce
[05:51] <maxamillion> m0u5e: are you familiar with the difference between a window manager and a desktop environment
[05:51] <maxamillion> ?*
[05:52] <m0u5e> maxamillion: huh?  yeah/ wait i thought metacity was the window manager?
[05:52] <m0u5e> for compiz
[05:52] <maxamillion> m0u5e: no
[05:52] <maxamillion> m0u5e: compiz is a window manager, metacity is the default window manager for the gnome desktop environment
[05:53] <m0u5e> maxamillion:  okay okay i got confused then
[05:53] <maxamillion> m0u5e: http://www.xwinman.org <--- check there for more info
[05:53] <m0u5e> thx
[05:53] <maxamillion> np
[05:53] <Jester45> arrg
[05:53] <Jester45> use compiz+emerald
[05:54] <Jester45> got your windowmanager and decorator
[05:54] <Jester45> thats why i would like xfwm to support decorating only
[05:54] <laserbeak43> holy crap
[05:54] <Jester45> so that xubuntu could have the fancy enable desktop effects like ubuntu
[05:54] <laserbeak43> i just pused super and n and super and m and all the colors are inverted
[05:55] <DocPheniX> how does one easily switch from say xfce to fluxbox and then back again via menu options on xubuntu?
[05:56] <laserbeak43> shutdown x
[05:56] <laserbeak43> then type whatever command it is that starts up the window manager :P
[05:56] <DocPheniX> yeah im aware of that way
[05:56] <laserbeak43> prolly not much of an answer though :)
[05:57] <DocPheniX> but im looking for a more automated way that i could have as a menu option in xfce's menu and in fluxbox's menu
[05:58] <Jester45> make a script to do it
[05:59] <DocPheniX> well considering this is my first dedicated system and am still fairly a n00b to linux
[05:59] <DocPheniX> thats doubtfull
[05:59] <DocPheniX> unless you have a link to a tutorial, saying make a script isnt very helpfull, just some constructive critisism.
[06:00] <Jester45> its quite simple
[06:00] <Jester45> open  mousepad copypaste #!/bin/bash  to the first line
[06:01] <Jester45> then every line after that is a new command that would be ran in a terminal
[06:01] <Jester45> so an example could be upgrades
[06:02] <DocPheniX> right. im not completly retarded. i understand how a script works, i unfortunately do not have a very good knowlege of the linux commands, etc.
[06:03] <Jester45> #!/bin/bash <newline> echo "upgrade time" <newline> sudo apt-get update <newline> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:03] <Jester45> btb
[06:03] <Jester45> gtg
[06:07] <laserbeak43> how do i update my repo for boost 1.34.1?
[06:07] <laserbeak43> later Jester45
[06:51] <m0u5e> hmm i got compiz working, but my window decorator is gone -_-;
[06:51] <m0u5e> how do i get compiz to use my default xubuntu window decorator :X
[06:53] <maxamillion> m0u5e: you need to set it to autostart with "compiz --replace" (if i remember correctly, its been a while since i have ran it)
[07:04] <m0u5e> maxamillion: it doesnt work when i do it from ctrl+alt+f2, but when i do compiz --replace through the terminal, it works
[07:04] <m0u5e> just without window decorations
[07:06] <m0u5e> okay ill try that
[07:07] <laserbeak43> hi
[07:08] <laserbeak43> how do i set a path for some library files that i've downloaded?
[07:15] <Acanar> Ubuntu has the nice network applet that detects my wireless network, does Xubuntu have something similar?
[07:16] <laserbeak43> yeah
[07:16] <laserbeak43> xfwm does
[07:16] <Acanar> how do I start it?
[07:17] <laserbeak43> applications>system>network
[07:17] <laserbeak43> what kind of wireless card you have ?
[07:17] <Acanar> it detects my wireless card but doesn't offer up my SSID (its brodcast)
[07:18] <Acanar> its a D-Link AirPlus. It worked on Ubuntu
[07:18] <Pumpernickel> Xubuntu doesn't have the kind of management tool you're talking about.
[07:18] <Pumpernickel> Wifi-radar is decent, and installable from the repos, though.
[07:19] <laserbeak43> oh ok
[07:19] <Acanar> Pumpernickel: thanks, I'll have to plug in an ethernet cable and install it
[07:30] <laserbeak43> damn
[07:31] <laserbeak43> recordmydesktop never renders
[07:56] <jaxo1> any reason why the sound should suddenly disappear...? thanx
[08:05] <tarntow> i m always having the sound suddenly disappearing...apart from restarting...is there something else that can be done to rectify the problem...it does happen a lot....thank you
[09:39] <m0u5e> hmm now that i have compiz-fusion enabled, a lot of my shortcut keys arent working anymore, and i cant start up XFCE settings managers
[09:39] <m0u5e> -___-;
[09:49] <Pumpernickel> It handles shortcuts independently - you'll have to set them up again.
[09:52] <m0u5e> gar
[09:53] <m0u5e> do you know what application xubuntu uses to capture screenshots?
[09:54] <Pumpernickel> The screenshot panel plugin, usually.
[09:59] <m0u5e> do you know how to configure work places? compiz fusion is screwing with the # of workplaces i have -_-;
[09:59] <m0u5e> and can i get it to have 2 rows, so its like 2x2? :)
[10:10] <BrendanM> Hey, so I added the wavelan panel applet, and then I made it invisible when disconnected (despite the warning that it could be hard to remove) but then my wireless adapter's name changed, and so now the applet is always invisible
[10:10] <BrendanM> my question is how do I remove it from the panel despite it being invisible? I assume there's some text file somewhere, right?
[10:31] <m0u5e> how do i change the number of workplaces xubuntu has manually, it no longer changer the # correctly (i think it has something to do with compiz-fusion)
[11:08] <scizzo-> m0u5e: you are using beryl or something?
[11:08] <scizzo-> m0u5e: because in that case its beryl that sets the ammount of spaces...
[11:09] <m0u5e> scizzo: im using compiz-fusion
[11:09] <m0u5e> scizzo-: how would i change it then :D
[11:11] <scizzo-> hmm
[11:12] <scizzo-> I am not sure really
[11:12] <scizzo-> havent toyed that much with it
[11:12] <scizzo-> seems like there are ways to get it interacting with metacity and gnome but can't really say much for xfce...
[11:12] <scizzo-> sorry
[11:16] <scizzo-> sorry I can't be of more help
[11:22] <m0u5e> scizzo-: i figured it out, thx though :D
[11:23] <m0u5e> scizzo-: now just trying to figure out how i can get my compiz to auto restart in the event of a crash -_-;
[11:23] <m0u5e> scizzo-: do you happen to know how to detatch an application from the terminal?
[11:23] <m0u5e> scizzo-: that would be so useful for me to know... is it possible?
[11:26] <scizzo-> m0u5e: you mean start it from logging in?
[11:27] <scizzo-> m0u5e: you can use the startup applications to do that
[11:28] <m0u5e> scizzo-: err no i mean if it crashes half way through a session, i already have it auto started
[11:36] <scizzo-> hmmm have no idea...haha
[11:44] <adrian_m> Hello!    i am having trouble after installing Xubuntu.  More exactly:  after installation i am unable to boot the OS  ( grub error 17 : cannot mount selected partition )
[11:45] <adrian_m> does anyone have any idea what could cause this error ?
[11:57] <scizzo-> adrian_m: did you do the partition table yourself or something?
[12:02] <LikeVinyl> hi guys, how to can select multiples icons and move?
[12:02] <LikeVinyl> it's impossible?
[12:14] <adrian_m> scizzo-:  yes, i've used the manual partitioning  because i  have other os-es installed  : windows xp  and mandriva linux
[02:21] <adrian_m> Are there any known problems with the package repositories, currently ?   I'm getting many errors when trying to update the lists of packages.
[02:29] <scizzo-> hmm I dont get any errors
[02:31] <adrian_m> i've tried to select different servers  (in the graphical  Source Manager)
[02:31] <scizzo-> what error do you get then?
[02:32] <adrian_m> i don't have the  errors in front of me.  Somethinglike :     Failed:    http://..mirror_name/feisty    Release    Translation_EN
[02:34] <adrian_m> this happens afte ri sleect a new server,  and  it  suggests  that  the list of packages should be reloaded.  And if you  check on the "details"  you can see what is it doing .
[02:34] <scizzo-> hmmm
[02:34] <scizzo-> what happens when you in a terminal runs: sudo apt-get update
[02:34] <scizzo-> ?
[02:35] <adrian_m> the same
[02:36] <scizzo-> exact error?
[02:36] <scizzo-> I mean can you paste the whole line here?
[02:36] <adrian_m> i'll reboot  to xubuntu again , so that i can give the exact message .  Just 1 minut e..
[02:45] <adrian_m> i've run   apt-get  update    again .  Here are the exact messages : http://pastebin.com/d22178a09
[02:45] <adrian_m> apt0--get   says  "Ign" , not "Failed"
[02:47] <scizzo-> seems like you have loads of links
[02:47] <scizzo-> and that the GPG is not really happy
[02:49] <adrian_m> i have checked main,universe,restricted, multiverse and updates
[02:51] <adrian_m> where can the gpg  public key be obtained from ?
[02:51] <scizzo-> you should uncheck a few instead
[02:51] <scizzo-> so that you can see when the links go through
[02:53] <adrian_m> http://pastebin.com/m47b022cc    ....  these are the messages  when  selecting only "main"
[02:55] <scizzo-> hmmm
[02:55] <scizzo-> I would reconfigure the links completely
[02:55] <scizzo-> so that you get it from a country instead of just the archive link
[02:56] <adrian_m> i'd like to fix the pgp  key first
[02:57] <scizzo-> shouldnt matter if you change the repos
[02:57] <adrian_m> i thinkthe keys are  added with apt-key.   but  where  can they obtained from ?
[02:58] <scizzo-> just use other repos
[02:58] <scizzo-> the key like that should not complain....
[02:58] <scizzo-> seems like it was using one link before then it was edited to not use the same link and then it started to complain
[02:59] <scizzo-> changing those repo links are not really something you just do.....you need to understand them to actually start changing in them...
[02:59] <adrian_m> i did  not edit any links manually
[02:59] <adrian_m> i'm usimng the graphical "Software sources"
[03:01] <scizzo-> ok....exit that program and start a terminal....then resize it so its really big
[03:01] <scizzo-> run the command: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <scizzo-> paste the output in pastebin
[03:02] <adrian_m> http://pastebin.com/d16c0d979
[03:04] <scizzo-> type: ls -l /etc/apt/*
[03:06] <adrian_m> http://pastebin.com/d4372f3d1
[03:08] <adrian_m> i think  i'll leave  my problem  for next  week
[03:08] <adrian_m> thanks for your time scizzo
[03:09] <scizzo-> you should really consider to change the sources I belive
[03:09] <scizzo-> start from new sources in the sources.list file
[03:09] <scizzo-> and then hope for the best.. :P
[03:10] <scizzo-> as a example: mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup1
[03:10] <scizzo-> cp /etc/apt/sources.list.original /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:10] <adrian_m> i've been changing the sources many times .  (not directly but with teh graphical tool)
[03:11] <adrian_m> thanks for your advices
[03:11] <scizzo-> apt-get update
[03:11] <adrian_m> bye ..
[03:11] <scizzo-> later
[03:21] <cheeseboy> whats the command to restart my network?
[03:56] <cheeseboy> anmyone here decent with networking?
[03:56] <pleia2> cheeseboy: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:57] <cheeseboy> pleia2: got that but how do i ftp to my xbox using a crossiver cable
[03:57] <cheeseboy> crossover*
[03:58] <tuxcrafte1> hello guys
[03:58] <cheeseboy> hi tuxcrafte1
[03:58] <tuxcrafte1> i wanted to do some gusty testing of xubuntu
[03:59] <tuxcrafte1> and i tried creating a usb stick netinstall
[03:59] <tuxcrafte1> but it is not working
[03:59] <tuxcrafte1> http://pastebin.ca/669186
[03:59] <tuxcrafte1> that are the instructions i created
[03:59] <tuxcrafte1> does anybody see what i am doing wrong?
[04:00] <cheeseboy> what error you get?
[04:01] <cheeseboy> or it not boot at all ?
[04:03] <tuxcrafte1> cheeseboy: it hangs at MBR FA:
[04:03] <tuxcrafte1> my pc supports usb 1.x boot devices
[04:03] <tuxcrafte1> i have tested that
[04:04] <cheeseboy> tuxcrafte1: whats your syslinux.cfg look like?
[04:04] <tuxcrafte1> cheeseboy: you can see it in the pastebin
[04:04] <tuxcrafte1> the two echo lines
[04:05] <tuxcrafte1> how wait
[04:05] <tuxcrafte1> i see a error
[04:05] <tuxcrafte1> sudo bash -c "echo 'DEFAULT linuz' > /media/disk/syslinux.cfg"
[04:05] <tuxcrafte1> linuz should be linux
[04:05] <tuxcrafte1> new test
[04:06] <cheeseboy> 'DEFAULT linuz'
[04:06] <cheeseboy> ya what i was about to say
[04:10] <tuxcrafte1> http://pastebin.ca/669197
[04:10] <tuxcrafte1> cheeseboy: still the same problem
[04:16] <cheeseboy> tuxcrafte1: what about vmlinuz
[04:17] <tuxcrafte1> cheeseboy: there is no vmlinuz file in the new netboot dir of the cd
[04:17] <tuxcrafte1> i think its been replaced with linux
[04:17] <tuxcrafte1> they are about the same filesize
[04:17] <tuxcrafte1> sudo cp ./install/vmlinuz /media/disk
[04:17] <tuxcrafte1> sudo cp ./install/initrd.gz /media/disk
[04:17] <tuxcrafte1> thats for normal
[04:18] <tuxcrafte1> and this is for netboot
[04:18] <tuxcrafte1> sudo cp ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz /media/disk
[04:18] <tuxcrafte1> sudo cp ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux /media/disk
[04:18] <tuxcrafte1> at least that is what i make out of it
[04:18] <cheeseboy> so is kernel linux in sys cfg file?
[04:18] <cheeseboy> "kernel linux"
[04:19] <tuxcrafte1> DEFAULT linux
[04:19] <tuxcrafte1> is in there
[04:19] <tuxcrafte1> i dont know about kernel linux
[04:21] <cheeseboy> try putting kernel linux
[04:22] <tuxcrafte1> cheeseboy: ok
[04:22] <tuxcrafte1> instead of DEFAULT linux?
[04:22] <tuxcrafte1> or append it
[04:23] <cheeseboy> um
[04:23] <cheeseboy> try both
[04:23] <tuxcrafte1> yes i see
[04:23] <tuxcrafte1> i picked a example file
[04:24] <tuxcrafte1> default is used for the labels
[04:24] <tuxcrafte1> and i dont have tose
[04:24] <tuxcrafte1> those
[04:25] <cheeseboy> kk
[04:28] <tuxcrafte1> cheeseboy: still same problem
[04:28] <tuxcrafte1> however i stiil have that stupid U3 system on my disk
[04:28] <tuxcrafte1> it cant be removed under linux
[04:28] <tuxcrafte1> i have t find a windows pc
[04:29] <cheeseboy> does the U3 remover tiol run in wine?
[04:29] <cheeseboy> tool*
[04:29] <tuxcrafte1> dont use wine
[04:30] <tuxcrafte1> but don't count on ti
[04:30] <tuxcrafte1> it does not work under vmware windows xp
[04:30] <cheeseboy> mine has U3 but i still boot it
[04:31] <tuxcrafte1> hum ok
[04:32] <tuxcrafte1> have to try it
[05:28] <tuxcrafte1> i have to leave
[05:45] <kaslkavich> hello
[05:46] <cellofellow> hi there
[05:48] <kaslkavich> hi cellofellow
[05:51] <kaslkavich> /que
[06:00] <cheeseboy> can someone help me with networking please
[06:00] <cheeseboy> ?
[06:01] <cellofellow> cheeseboy: what's up?
[06:01] <cellofellow> need to know what's wrong before we can fix it.
[06:02] <cellofellow> Wired or wireless?
[06:03] <cheeseboy> both
[06:03] <cellofellow> what's the matter then?
[06:03] <cheeseboy> i have wireless internet working now and i want to share with xbox by a wired connection
[06:04] <cellofellow> so, you want to act as a router for the xBox?
[06:04] <cheeseboy> yes
[06:04] <cellofellow> hmmm
[06:04] <cheeseboy> i made a cross over cable
[06:05] <cellofellow> that sounds a little bit complicated. I don't think there is a simple wizard for that like in Windows, but it can be done.
[06:05] <cellofellow> Ok, that's good.
[06:05] <cellofellow> I think you need to set up iptables to act as a NAT, and you need DNSMasq to forward DNS requests.
[06:05] <cheeseboy> :/
[06:06] <cellofellow> Look up iptables NAT or IP Masquerade (same thing) with Google.
[06:06] <cellofellow> dnsmasq is a snap to set up.
[06:06] <cellofellow> it will even do dhcp.
[06:06] <cheeseboy> for you maybe
[06:06] <cellofellow> and you can easily bind it to just one address.
[06:06] <cellofellow> no, really, with dnsmasq, you install it, turn it on (which happens at install anyay) and use it.
[06:07] <cellofellow> iptables on the other hand...
[06:07] <cellofellow> !iptables
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:07] <cellofellow> it's used in all linux-based routers, like linksys.
[06:08] <cheeseboy> so apt-get install dnsmasq then im done :/
[06:08] <cellofellow> after you set up the firewall
[06:09] <cellofellow> which is iptables
[06:09] <cheeseboy> :/
[06:09] <cheeseboy> i dont need a firewall
[06:10] <cheeseboy> all ports open is fine w/ me
[06:10] <cheeseboy> Starting DNS forwarder and DHCP server: dnsmasqdnsmasq: failed to create listening socket: Address already in use
[06:10] <cheeseboy>  (failed).
[06:10] <cheeseboy> invoke-rc.d: initscript dnsmasq, action "start" failed.
[06:10] <cheeseboy> :(
[06:10] <cellofellow> you don't have to use it to block, just to divide your network into a subnet so that the linux box acts as a gateway.
[06:10] <cellofellow> do you already have a dns server?
[06:11] <cheeseboy> i might im not sure
[06:11] <cellofellow> that would explain failing because the port was already used.
[06:11] <cheeseboy> i am running a site off this pc
[06:12] <cellofellow> I think BIND can forward DNS requests like dnsmasq can, but I'm not sure.
[06:12] <cheeseboy> i think im running bind
[06:12] <cellofellow> Those are the only two big DNS servers. Nice about dnsmasq is it includes an easy-t-use dhcp server too.
[06:12] <test3r> ooooooo month left Tribe5  *drool*  Should I Dare?
[06:12] <test3r> anyone know just how unstable unstable is? hahahahahah
[06:13] <cellofellow> enough to stand on its own two feet, but possibly trip.
[06:13] <cheeseboy> so what do i do?
[06:13] <cellofellow> this is close but not *precisely* what you want. http://www.howtoforge.com/nat_iptables
[06:14] <cellofellow> you'll have to think a little when it comes to working out IP addresses and the like.
[06:14] <cellofellow> Oh, and you don't REALLY need dnsmasq, you can point the DNS address in the xbox to you main router or something.
[06:14] <test3r> isnt there tools that do the iptables rules For you?
[06:14] <cellofellow> I just use my ISP addresses.
[06:15] <cheeseboy> i miss window's wizard :(
[06:15] <cellofellow> test3r: there are, but I think they are focused more on PC firewalls than a network NAT.
[06:15] <test3r> In fact - I KNOW there are tools out there that will set the majority of rules youd want in place.  Whether or not you are doing crazy custom rules is the question, then
[06:15] <test3r> oh OK yeah I have no exp witha NAT
[06:16] <cellofellow> http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php this looks good
[06:16] <cheeseboy> you sure you would rather walk me through it ? <3
[06:17] <cellofellow> I've never set up a gateway.
[06:17] <cellofellow> I just know what programs you use for it.
[06:17] <test3r> lol. let US know how, bud!
[06:18] <cheeseboy> (12:03:34 PM) cheeseboy: i have wireless internet working now and i want to share with xbox by a wired connection @ test3r
[06:18] <cellofellow> cheeseboy: don't mess with the settings on the wireless, just do the stuff with wired. I think the most you'll have to do is set an internal IP like 192.168.1.1
[06:19] <cellofellow> (if your wireless gets 192.168.0.* addresses, use 192.168.0.1, etc.
[06:19] <cellofellow> )
[06:19] <cellofellow> I mean 192.168.1.*
[06:19] <cellofellow> blah
[06:19] <cheeseboy> wireless is 192.168.1.*
[06:19] <cellofellow> so, use 192.168.2.*
[06:19] <cellofellow> on the wired
[06:19] <cellofellow> * = 1
[06:19] <test3r> cello is correct, cheese. get it going wired first. SAMBA can b a nightmare. ive gotten files to share on that but printer wouldnt go all the way i could see my job in the winblows printer que (the job sent via wifi from my linux laptop) but it wouldnt print
[06:20] <cellofellow> he's already got wireless. He wants to set up a gateway for his xbox.
[06:20] <test3r> and im telling him getting winblows to play nicely is hard
[06:20] <test3r> try it wired
[06:21] <cellofellow> test3r: avoid using samba for printing when possible. Windows 2000 and newer can use IPP which plays very nicely with CUPS.
[06:21] <cheeseboy> test3r: winblow is actually easier and i dont want to run 100 ft cord through my house
[06:21] <test3r> yeah my cups uses the samba automatically. can i tell cups to use some IPP thing? is that in the repos?
[06:22] <cellofellow> just cause windows has some stupid wizard to set up a gateway (Internet Connection Sharing) doesn't make it any better.
[06:22] <test3r> cheese > its only easier because of the wizard yes
[06:22] <test3r> cheese > winblows sucks.
[06:22] <cellofellow> test3r: you need to set up the Allow/Deny stuff in cupsd.conf, and then you can print to http://yourbox:631/printers/yourprinter with Windows.
[06:23] <cheeseboy> auto eth0
[06:23] <cheeseboy> iface eth0 static
[06:23] <test3r> nonono cello the printer is connected via USB to the win box. im trying to share the printer on network and print to it via WIFI with my laptop which is running Xubuntu704
[06:23] <cheeseboy> as far as i can get X(
[06:24] <test3r> and winblows will put my doc in its printer que. then it just sits there. the printer even "warms itself up"
[06:24] <cellofellow> test3r: my copy of W2K has an option in the Network Services under Add/Remove Programs -> WIndows Components. Something like Print Services for UNIX, makes it so that Windows will server IPP as well, not just client it.
[06:25] <test3r> omg ur kidding. im looking for that Right Now then
[06:25] <cheeseboy> im stuck
[06:25] <cellofellow> cheeseboy: stuck where?
[06:26] <cheeseboy> /etc/network/interfaces
[06:26] <cheeseboy> what exactly do i put?
[06:27] <cellofellow> which tutorial you reading?
[06:27] <cheeseboy> none
[06:28] <test3r> cello > in XP it is under "Add/Rem Windows Components"  then "Other Network and File Sharing Services" and the only thing it installs in that group is, you guessed it, that "Print serv for UNIX".   YOU KICK BUTT, cello!!!! Nobody knew the answer. TY! I'll pass it on when needed.
[06:28] <cellofellow> try this one. Looks easy, uses GUI. (You can use the Network admin tool to do most of the IP stuff.)
[06:28] <cellofellow> http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[06:28] <cellofellow> test3r: cool. IPP printers are snap to set up in the Printer configurator.
[06:29] <cellofellow> test3r: you should try either using the RAW driver, or the driver for the printer. Not sure if Windows will drive it or just pass the driven data straight to the printer.)
[06:30] <cheeseboy> <3 gui
[06:32] <test3r> cello > so I should still change some config on the Linux Laptop then to use this IPP instead of referencing the printer through CUPS how it trying to do?
[06:33] <cellofellow> test3r: you add a printer to cups with an address like http://thewindowsbox/printername or something similar. (Read the Windows UNIX thing docs to find out exactly what the address is.)
[06:33] <cheeseboy> greg@cheeseboy:~$ sudo ifup eth0
[06:33] <cheeseboy> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[06:33] <cheeseboy> ??
[06:34] <test3r> OK yep that parts done, & gold. I think I just needed that bizzarrrrr winblows thing injected. Why it wasnt in the FIRST PLACE we will never know (short of Not Everyone Neds It)
[06:34] <test3r> well here goes nothing ill try printing from Inkscape in just a sec
[06:35] <cellofellow> cheeseboy: use the Applications->System->Networking tool. Always works for me in wired connection settings.
[06:35] <cheeseboy> donnt have that
[06:35] <cellofellow> cheeseboy: what desktop you using?
[06:36] <cheeseboy> fluxbox
[06:36] <cheeseboy> come here cause its not crowded :-P
[06:36] <cellofellow> cheeseboy: you still have the xubuntu stuff? If so, the command is `gksu network-admin`.
[06:36] <test3r> lol
[06:37] <cheeseboy> i did pxe install
[06:38] <cellofellow> ummm
[06:38] <cellofellow> brb
[06:39] <cheeseboy> kk
[06:48] <test3r> damn somehow i muxxed up my CUPS when I was playing with it trying to get it to go. I'll sort it out tho. it'll b a min though.
[06:52] <test3r> do u think it would b easier to just re-install the CUPS packedge in syaptic and just re-add the printer ??? o wait- I remember there is an HP wizard CLI wizard to use I bet I have to do that
[07:11] <cheeseboy> help
[07:11] <cheeseboy> ive been trying for hours
[07:12] <cheeseboy> starting to hate *buntu
[07:14] <j1mc> cheeseboy: what's the problem?
[07:14] <j1mc> !ask
[07:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:14] <cheeseboy> (12:03:34 PM) cheeseboy: i have wireless internet working now and i want to share with xbox by a wired connection
[07:14] <j1mc> you want to share a wifi signal from ubuntu with an xbox?
[07:15] <cheeseboy> i get internet from wifi on pc
[07:15] <cheeseboy> i want to send internet through wired connection to xbox
[07:17] <j1mc> hrm... there must be a way to do it, but i'm not sure how.  do you have a router?
[07:17] <cheeseboy> j1mc: understand?
[07:17] <j1mc> yes, i understand
[07:17] <cheeseboy> i have a router but its down stairs so i want to use crossover cable
[07:18] <j1mc> cheeseboy: have you searched the forums at all?
[07:18] <cheeseboy> i searched google
[07:18] <cheeseboy> and look @ some forum stuff
[07:19] <test3r> null modem? to xbox?
[07:20] <test3r> geez louise, you sure picked an ez one =)
[07:20] <cheeseboy> :/
[07:20] <cheeseboy> no
[07:21] <test3r> hey in my world OK i got the linux laptop to send the doc, win is showing the doc in que, printer gets ready, and everything just SITS there
[07:21] <cheeseboy> modem goes to router wireless internet gets sent from router to my room the on the reciving pc i sdend its internet wwired to xbox
[07:21] <test3r> laptop saying connected to local host.  the printque looks normal except fo the fact that it says "Size : 64K/5MB"
[07:22] <test3r> if you had linx on the PC running, you can forward that
[07:22] <test3r> you have buntu on the pc?
[07:23] <cheeseboy> yes
[07:23] <test3r> init a new ATH
[07:23] <test3r> make ATH1
[07:23] <test3r> set it do broadcast AP
[07:23] <test3r> ok? then make ap name
[07:23] <cheeseboy> test3r not wireless wired
[07:23] <test3r> set xbox to connect to your newly being made ap
[07:23] <cheeseboy> X(
[07:23] <test3r> ok same thing
[07:23] <test3r> connect wire
[07:23] <test3r> make eth1
[07:24] <test3r> setup broadcast or such. then connect
[07:24] <cheeseboy> how
[07:24] <test3r> cept on wired its not broadcast what is the equivilent?
[07:24] <cheeseboy> i dunno
[07:24] <test3r> is not ez. it took me a yr to do with my wifi card inside my laptop.
[07:25] <test3r> once you Get it though, you will be with a skill that is rediculous
[07:25] <cheeseboy> its so much easier on windows
[07:25] <test3r> wait tho
[07:25] <test3r> why cant xbox get wifi internet?
[07:25] <test3r> it has no wifi inside it?
[07:26] <cheeseboy> it has no wireless card
[07:26] <test3r> carp.
[07:26] <cheeseboy> so i want to share with pc im on now
[07:26] <test3r> mmmmmmmm, yeah id say hot wire the thing with a long cat5 cable =(  either that or you need Two ethernet card in the PC
[07:27] <test3r> er
[07:27] <test3r> no
[07:27] <cheeseboy> i have all the supplies X(
[07:27] <test3r> wifi is going IN to the pc.  OK so you need a card capable of some Raw ish.
[07:27] <cheeseboy> i have done this from windows
[07:27] <cheeseboy> so i have everything i need
[07:27] <test3r> you can prob maek the code in perl to do it auto
[07:27] <cheeseboy> i can't
[07:28] <test3r> i mean once u learn the cmnds it will take
[07:28] <test3r> put them in file names THING.pl
[07:28] <cheeseboy> X( i need the commands
[07:29] <test3r> wish i could help ya There, but I havent did that yet. like i said it took a yr for me to do that with a wifi card - but im doing it special too
[07:29] <test3r> what i CAN do is tell you
[07:29] <test3r> what you should b looking for
[07:29] <test3r> which is "setup ETH1 broadcast" or the like
[07:30] <test3r> !eth1 broadcast
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth1 broadcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <test3r> !eth1
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <test3r> !eth host
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth host - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <test3r> !host on eth
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about host on eth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <test3r> it will actually be on ETH0 on your box because the WIFI is your internet connection supply so you say
[07:31] <test3r> so your internet IN is prob tied to ATH0 or the equivilent for your card
[07:31] <test3r> but it Wont be eth for your wireless i know that much
[07:32] <cellofellow> you want to have the wireless, which should be either wlan0 or wifi0, or maybe both, the the "outside" address of the NAT, and the ethernet (eth0) be the inside address.
[07:33] <test3r> a addy to a NAT? why is that needed? to GET the internet connecting in?
[07:33] <test3r> wifi0 is a BASE driver
[07:33] <test3r> dont alter that
[07:33] <test3r> lol
[07:34] <test3r> (these are the things i learned in that yr.)
[07:34] <test3r> alter ath0
[07:34] <test3r> not wifi0
[07:35] <test3r> it will depend on your card that is installed.  Cheese > type "iwconfig"
[07:36] <test3r> tell me what devices it is showing up and a little first line it says bout them
[07:51] <cheeseboy> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[07:51] <cheeseboy> ra0       RT61 Wireless  ESSID:"dd-wrt"  Nickname:"dd-wrt"
[07:53] <test3r> ok so the ra0 looks to be where it is getting the "Line-In" on. and it can see the eth0. that's what you need to setup as sending Out to the xbox obviously
[07:54] <test3r> ifconfig  should tell you a ton more info. dont tell us all that because I still wont know wht to do
[07:54] <test3r> but im sure Someone out there has done it b4
[08:38] <test3r> OK so I can Samba mount my shares on my winblows box through my wifi
[08:38] <test3r> and CUPS claims it can see my printer connected to that win box too
[08:39] <test3r> so how do I get this sucker to do anything besides send the first 64K to my print spooler and die out?
[08:39] <test3r> I installed the UNIX print extension too inside of windows box
[08:42] <test3r> btw - if I hook the printer to the USB port it works fine. Im just wanting to do it through my wifi and samba
[08:47] <test3r> ah HA
[08:47] <test3r> i have to disable bi-directional printing
[08:47] <test3r> ?
[08:50] <test3r> OMG ITS GOING!
[08:50] <test3r> =O    =D
[08:50] <test3r> leet! Im printing Inkscape VECTORs made in Linux that I opened in FIREFOX and sent to Print
[08:50] <test3r> through my freekin WIFI
[08:51] <test3r> and its got a big giant ugly line down the middle that shouldnt b there hahahahahahahaha thats OK though its a Start!
[08:52] <The-Kernel> ?!
[08:54] <test3r> I printed Inkscape VECTORs made in Linux that I opened in FIREFOX and sent to Print through the wifi in my house using my laptop running linux
[08:54] <test3r> the printer? is connected via USB to a windows box that happens to b on my network
[08:55] <test3r> =)
[08:57] <cheeseboy> why can i start dhcp3-server ?
[08:57] <test3r> OK cheese ima have a smoke and then help u sort out that stuff
[08:57] <test3r> ah Ha thats what you need to b using? start a dhcp on eth0?
[08:58] <test3r> ok brb.  dont forget to run "man dhcp3-server" if you ditnt already
[09:05] <cheeseboy> im being to think its impossible
[09:06] <test3r> dont give up when you're done you will know That much more
[09:06] <test3r> and not only that - what we're doing Here, applies to any distro
[09:06] <test3r> so youd b doing this on anything. and it would prob b harder too.
[09:06] <test3r> OK so I remember now.  yes you need to start a dhcp client on eth0
[09:06] <cheeseboy> ive tried every method i could find
[09:07] <test3r> people have to do this when they manually have to setup their network cards
[09:07] <test3r> yours was autodetected
[09:07] <test3r> so u skipped all this see
[09:07] <cheeseboy> ?
[09:07] <test3r> there is a Ton of info out there about it
[09:07] <test3r> its just as simple as starting a net connection
[09:08] <test3r> only it will be a slightly odd one
[09:09] <test3r> I think you MIGHT want to make a subnet on your eth0 ? It came up on my first search
[09:10] <test3r> once you learn how to "turn that on" you can add it into your net config file and it will do it on boot
[09:11] <test3r> i have done this in my laptop
[09:11] <cheeseboy> i have tried it all
[09:11] <cheeseboy> doesnt work
[09:11] <test3r> you made a subnet broadcast out of your ethernet card?
[09:11] <test3r> set your xbox to connect to that weird subnet mask?
[09:11] <test3r> you did that already?
[09:12] <test3r> also -
[09:12] <cheeseboy> i used normal 255 one
[09:12] <test3r> you ARE using a twisted cat5, yes?
[09:12] <cheeseboy> yes
[09:12] <test3r> kus ur going from two devices that
[09:12] <test3r> OK.
[09:12] <test3r> =)
[09:12] <test3r> jUUUUUUUUUst cheking.
[09:13] <test3r> then you are SO close!
[09:13] <test3r> keep tinkering it!
[09:13] <test3r> also it wont happen right away either.  take a sec step bak think of things try other way of search
[09:14] <cheeseboy> na i give up
[09:14] <test3r> ive been trying to get my print to work thru my wifi for ..... mmmm....  4 months?
[09:14] <test3r> bah   =9
[09:14] <cheeseboy> print through wifi is easy
[09:14] <test3r> then where were You when i asked just a sec ago for help?
[09:14] <test3r> Here I am helping You.
[09:15] <cheeseboy> waiting for my help
[09:15] <test3r> ..
[09:16] <cheeseboy> so all i do is use cups gui select my printer then it works
[09:18] <test3r> I'm PRETTY sure I had to do more than that. But whatever you say- it's working now so I aint selectin anything.
[09:26] <test3r> !dhcp
[09:26] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[09:26] <test3r> i'd check there.    =)))
[09:27] <test3r> aw dang it its not a link on the bunt site
[09:27] <test3r> !dhcp3-server
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcp3-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <test3r> lol.
[09:30] <rathel> I've got a networking problem here, I don't think it's necessarily a linux problem, It was working just fine until today, I am plugged into a switch and the light on the switch for this computer keeps flashing off than on. It's not like the activity flash. You can ping any computer on the switch or anything, this has happened before, and it fixed itself, Just wondering what causes that and how do I fix it without waiting for it to fix
[09:30] <rathel>  itself? lol
[09:33] <test3r> cheese > Actually, have you tried using that "dhclient" it mentions?
[09:34] <test3r> rathel > have you tried turning the power off on the switch, waiting 30 sec, and power back in?
[09:34] <test3r> rathel > this might turn off when you try, btw
[09:35] <rathel> test3r, I think so maybe I didn't wait long enough, let me try again.
[09:35] <rathel> It's off.
[09:37] <rathel_> Didn't fix it, but it did bump my other network config.. lol
[09:41] <test3r> =x
[09:41] <test3r> perhaps the net card on the device using that port on the router is bad
[09:41] <test3r> the ethernet card?
[09:41] <test3r> try the device on a different port. etc
[09:41] <rathel_> nah It's the switch I've got 3 devices plugged into it.
[09:43] <test3r> ok leave switch on and take cable out of that port for 30 sec
[09:43] <test3r> see if light remains same pattern
[09:43] <rathel_> Okay, I removed all 3 cables.
[09:43] <Merchelo> what kind of switch is it, what make? what model?
[09:43] <test3r> =O    lol all we needed was the one that was blinking but thats OK.
[09:44] <rathel_> lol it's an old D-Link DSS-5+
[09:45] <rathel_> test3r, They where all blinking... :P
[09:45] <Merchelo> if you traceroute to the internet on the computer on the affected port, how far does it go?
[09:46] <rathel_> Dunno I'm not using the switch for the internet, my internet is wireless it's just hooking up my 3 computers so I can watch videos with ease.
[09:47] <rathel_> I have a weird setup here. :X
[09:47] <test3r> then try to ping 19216801
[09:47] <test3r> and 02
[09:47] <test3r> etc
[09:47] <rathel_> I've noticed this computer I'm on is the only light that's flashing completely off than on.
[09:48] <rathel_> The other ones are flashing but they're not going completely off.
[09:48] <Merchelo> is eth0 up on your machine?
[09:49] <Merchelo> as in can you even ping the router?
[09:49] <rathel_> Yes sir, I'm still pinging to 10.0.0.102: Destination Host Unreachable.
[09:49] <Merchelo> and ifconfig tells you ...
[09:50] <rathel_> My windows computer that is also on the switch, shows the network enabled and stuff but it cannot ping or anything.
[09:51] <rathel_> I think I just need a new switch.. lol ifconfig is all okay. I didn't change anything from yesterday, and it all was working, I mean this has happened before and fixed it self in like a 24hour period from when I noticed.
[09:51] <test3r> 10?????  why is it on 10?
[09:51] <test3r> people with confusing kustom chit asking me for help  <3
[09:51] <Merchelo> rathel_, arp -a says ?
[09:51] <test3r> ;p    =D
[09:51] <rathel_> because my other network I'm connected to is 192.168.0.* makes it easy for me.
[09:52] <rathel_> It doesn't say anything for the IP I'm having trouble with. it lists my other IPs.
[09:53] <rathel_> arp -a does.
[09:54] <Merchelo> rathel_, traceroute from the machine in trouble, to another machines ip on the swicth, not the switch itself, and see how far it goes
[09:56] <rathel_> lol How do you traceroute again? =x
[09:57] <rathel_> Unknown host... and on Windows says Request timed out.
[09:58] <Merchelo> in windows it's tracert in command.com, and in linux it's just traceroute
[09:59] <rathel_> lmao I just realized I have to install traceroute here, so old on a lil bit.
[10:00] <rathel_> Just came up with  1  Falcon.local (10.0.0.100)  3004.319 ms !H  3002.494 ms !H  3003.937 ms !H
[10:00] <Merchelo> hmm ok
[10:01] <rathel_> and Windows does "Request time out" over and over.
[10:01] <Merchelo> tbh rathel_ there are a lot more people in ##linux who would be able to help you out more, i say this, as i am now going to get some beer and consume it
[10:02] <rathel_> Merchelo, okay, thanks anyways, I'm sure it'll fix itself over time like it has in the past, it's just weird is all.
[10:03] <xjkx>  2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linu
[10:03] <xjkx> Is there a newer version?
[10:05] <Merchelo> xjkx, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade to get the newest one, then uname -a to get the version
[10:06] <Merchelo> and to think i spend my days working on windows server 2003 all day :(
[10:33] <Pelo> evening folks
[10:47] <jcs7778> Hi all, Im using the the alternate install cd to install xubuntu onto one of my systems and the installer seems to stop at 47% at the point where it says configuring anthy...  This happened yesterday and i thought it might have just been a weird one time glitch and resolved to re try it today. It has been at configuring anthy for about two hours which seem wrong. The hard drive is working hard and so is the cd drive. I had in the
[10:47] <jcs7778> past successfully installed debian with xfce, but ide prefer using xubuntu if only i could get it to install
[10:49] <Pumpernickel> Unless you need the japanese language support, you can switch to a console and kill that particular process.  The installation will continue with the next package.
[10:51] <jcs7778> no I don't need japanese language package
[10:51] <jcs7778> how do i jump out to a terminal
[10:51] <jcs7778> ?
[10:51] <Pumpernickel> ctrl + alt + F2
[10:54] <jcs7778> how do i kill the process, just kill anthy?
[10:55] <Pumpernickel> ps aux | grep -i anthy
[10:56] <Pumpernickel> And then just kill that one.
[11:02] <jcs7778> that output a few things, I've tried to kill all the process that it output but they all give me kill: illegal number:
[11:08] <test3r> cheese > did you get that xbox to connect? did you try 'dhclient' at all to make the eth0 ?
[11:09] <cheeseboy> no and yes
[11:09] <test3r> =(  I wonder what the heck is stopping it???  Maybe the xbox isnt made to handle a direct connected twisted cat5 like that
[11:10] <cheeseboy> yes iit is
[11:10] <test3r> has anyone did it in a blog, or such?
[11:10] <test3r> hmmmm OK
[11:19] <test3r> on a hunch - have u tried a Non twisted ? I know it shouldnt work but would it hurt anything ?
[11:20] <test3r> also do u have nmap installed ? that could at least see it on there if it will respond
[11:28] <flyback> hey cheeseboy :P
[11:28] <flyback> it's psufan
[11:35] <test3r> PRO TIP:  Do not use your laptop as a tire-stop while changing your oil.
[11:36] <flyback> hello?
[11:36] <flyback> well I tried, I will just have to walk you thru the issue some other time when we are both around
[11:43] <cheeseboy> flyback u get my pm?
[11:43] <flyback> no
[11:44] <flyback> remind me what we talked about before cause I can't remeber
[11:44] <cheeseboy> my psu blew up
[11:44] <cheeseboy> so i was tryn to get 20 pin psu to fit 14 pin
[11:45] <flyback> ugh
[11:45] <flyback> didn't you tell me at the last minute you fixed it?
[11:45] <cheeseboy> yes
[11:45] <flyback> you were lucky
[11:46] <flyback> if you put +5 where +3.3 is you shoul dhave blown stuff
[11:46] <cheeseboy> ya
[11:46] <flyback> you need to get a dmm
[11:46] <cheeseboy> its all good now im on it now
[11:46] <flyback> ask for one for xmas runt :P
[11:46] <flyback> oh how did you get linux loaded?
[11:46] <cheeseboy> netboot
[11:46] <flyback> ah so you did listen :)
[11:47] <flyback> how many of those do you have?
[11:47] <flyback> and how well do they run linux
[11:47] <flyback> I bet better than windows
[11:47] <cheeseboy> 2
[11:47] <cheeseboy> linux is faster
[11:47] <flyback> you know about efnet?
[11:47] <cheeseboy> the irc net?
[11:48] <flyback> yes
[11:48] <cheeseboy> what about it?
[11:48] <flyback> that's where I am the most
[11:48] <flyback> feel free to idle in #computers
[11:49] <cheeseboy> kk
[12:32] <gerro> hey everyone how the xubuntu going?
[12:33] <j1mc> xubuntu is ok.  :)  how are you?
[12:35] <gerro> ah just messing with this new lcd monitor, its rather awesome. Lower res but larger screen and faster refresh rate.
[12:36] <gerro> fonts are flickering kinda weird think its either double buffering, font caching, redrawing fonts or someone mentioned page flipping whatever heck that is
[12:36] <gerro> jlmc: hey you know of any nice xfce tweaks involving the panel?
[12:38] <j1mc> gerro: sorry, gotta go.
[12:39] <gerro> jlmc: ok well hope to see you around
[12:39] <j1mc> thanks, gerro :)
[12:49] <gerro> Balaams_Miracle: yo