[12:39] <DaSkreech> is there a link form kdesu -> kdesudo ?
[12:43] <Riddell> no, a dpkg redirect
[12:47] <DaSkreech> so they will be no kdesu?
[12:48] <Riddell> you can run kdesu.distrib or apt-get remove kdesudo
[12:49] <DaSkreech> ok
[12:50] <DaSkreech> Just worried about the hundreds of walkthroughs that say kdesu suddenly having a non working command
[12:51] <Riddell> why would it be non working?
[12:52] <DaSkreech> I thought that kdesudo was replacing kdesu
[12:53] <Riddell> yes, in /usr/bin/kdesu
[12:58] <DaSkreech> ah ok :)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> is there a kde app in repos to remove the DRM for a .wma
[01:11] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: I don't know there is a windows program for that.
[01:12] <gnomefreak> there is?
[01:23] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: No I don't think that there is a windows program that does that. the new wmf is pretty well encrypted
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ok ty i have idea run to library take out the cd and use soundjuicer
[03:01] <ryanakca> Riddell: Hmm. When you wake up, mind loging into egroupware and telling me if there's anybody else who needs an account (I've got all the kubuntu-members)? I'm sending you username/pass/etc...
[03:40] <ryanakca> bug 439357
[04:12] <nixternal> what about it?
[04:12] <nixternal> :)
[06:09] <manchicken> Is mvo normally on kubuntu-devel or ubuntu-devel or neither?
[06:10] <ScottK> manchicken: I've seen him on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-bugs.
[06:10] <manchicken> I don't see him now...
[06:10] <manchicken> I hear he was wanting to do a package manager in Python that would use common code between Kubuntu and Ubuntu.
[06:11] <manchicken> I should probably pick up python sooner or later.
[06:13] <manchicken> Or is Ruby the language that all the cool kids are using for KDE4 stuff?
[10:31] <mhb> hi folks
[10:58] <allee> morning.  Anyone known show to see which 'events' media managers sees?  (Me tries to figure out how to start kdeblueooth when BT stick is inserted)
[11:00] <mhb> hello yet again :o)
[11:03] <allee> hi mhb
[11:03] <Riddell> allee: it listens to hal, kdebase/kioslave/media/mediamanager/halbackend.cpp
[11:03] <allee> Riddell: isn't there a tool to monitor kde's media manager events?
[11:07] <Riddell> allee: you could try asking ervin
[11:10] <allee> ah #solid
[11:10] <allee> Riddell: thx
[11:24] <allee> Riddell: ervin told me that there will be no media-manager events.  So either listen to hal directly or listen to bluez dbus events.   Would be a little autostart script python that waiting in background for device insert/removal be acceptable/makes sense for gutsy?
[11:44] <allee> python-bluez in universe :(
[11:55] <Riddell> allee: that would make sense sure
[11:55] <Riddell> we can get things promoted if they are needed
[11:57] <allee> Riddell: mhm, k.  I've currently looking into dbus-x11 (not installed by default, but in main) if it can be done via scripting too.  Thx for info
[12:05] <gnomefreak> anyone know what " text " in C is? i know */ text /* is comment but not sure what the " are for
[12:06] <allee> Tonio_: kbt autostart on bt insert/remove: ervin told me that there no media manager events for it in KDE3.  So the options are small python-bluez (universe) script autostarted waiting for insert/unplug. Alternatively maybe shell script?;  Listen to hal events (argl ;).  Not sure if I can find more time this weekend.
[12:08] <allee> Tonio_: independently please consider  'Exec=hciconfig | grep -q . && kdeblueooth'  works around disturbing warning when no BT device is available
[12:08] <allee> bye
[12:38] <mhb> today is a bad day for IRC
[12:40] <Hobbsee> mhb: oh?
[12:42] <mhb> Hobbsee: irssi keeps reconnecting all the time (not sure why, it's fine usually) and the fabbione logs are dead, too
[12:42] <Hobbsee> mhb: ahh
[01:36] <vprints> does guidance share code with displayconfig-gtk ?
[02:53] <ris> i hope by release, gutsy is going to decide whether it's going to be blue-green or blue-purple, because hovering on the border or having a mix of the two is quite ugly
[02:53] <ris> case in point - new kdm in tribe5
[02:55] <Riddell> ris: I think artists kwwii is away for the weekend
[02:56] <Riddell> you can discuss it on ubuntu-art mailing list or on irc with him on monday
[02:56] <ris> Riddell: tch, cowboy
[02:57] <vprints> Riddell, does guidance share code with displayconfig-gtk ?
[02:59] <Riddell> vprints: yes displayconfig-gtk uses the guidance backend
[03:01] <vprints> will guidance also get the Home / Office/ ... / settings grouping in gutsy ?
[03:04] <Riddell> vprints: unlikely, it would need someone to work on it
[05:30] <nixternal> Jucato is coming back!!!
[05:31] <nosrednaekim> where was he? I noticed he hasn't been around.
[05:33] <nixternal> he took a little break
[05:41] <nixternal> robotgeek: dude, those transparent screens are cool
[06:13] <tmske> what's the default search program in kubuntu gutsy, tracker or strigi?
[06:14] <ScottK> strigi
[06:14] <ScottK> tracker is a Gnome program for eating up all your CPU time.
[06:14] <tmske> :-)
[06:17] <nixternal> hehe
[06:17] <jjesse> afternoon :)
[06:17] <nixternal> all strigi needs is a nice user friendly ui...other than that, it is pretty good actually
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> excellent observation.....it is afternoon.
[06:17] <nixternal> howdy jjesse
[06:18] <nixternal> not here it isn't
[06:18] <nixternal> still have 40+ minutes :)
[06:18] <jjesse> silly central time zone people
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> yeah,,,
[06:18] <nixternal> Chicago Standard Time!
[06:18] <jjesse> i'm sure that's what it stands for
[06:18] <nixternal> hehe
[06:18] <nixternal> it is now!
[06:22] <nixternal> jjesse: you gonna be helping out on some kde4 doc work?
[06:22] <jjesse> nixternal: sure is there a lot to do?
[06:22] <nixternal> oh ya
[06:22] <nixternal> Phil and I are starting to discuss it a bit and you aren't around which is odd :)
[06:22] <jjesse> nixternal: ok
[06:23] <jjesse> nixternal: i've been swamped w/ work
[06:23] <nosrednaekim> I can help with docs..
[06:23] <jjesse> nosrednaekim: #kde-docs :)
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> ok
[06:31] <tmske> is the kbfx version of kubuntu gutsy compiled with strigi support?
[06:58] <jjesse> so those jerks at dell limit my laptop to 3.2 gig via something in the hardware even though i can purchase 4 gigs of RAM
[07:00] <nixternal> that is cool
[07:01] <jjesse> yeah too bad i bought the extra memory before I new i would never bee able to use it
[07:06] <OculusAquilae> Hi
[07:07] <OculusAquilae> Is anybody working on the backup system Keep?
[07:12] <jjesse> i'm doing some work on the documentation
[07:14] <OculusAquilae> jjesse: of Keep?
[07:16] <jjesse> OculusAquilae: yes
[07:18] <OculusAquilae> jjesse: are you in contact with JRe, I would like to do porting to kde4 and so on
[07:18] <jjesse> OculusAquilae: i posted somethings on the bug in regards to this on kde's bugtracker but haven't had further contact
[07:18] <jjesse> do you have an email address?
[07:19] <OculusAquilae> jjesse: I wrote the the address in the about page
[07:20] <jjesse> about keep page?
[07:20] <OculusAquilae> yes
[07:21] <jjesse> ok i'll contact him
[07:21] <OculusAquilae> I wrote an E-mail already
[07:21] <OculusAquilae> no answer till now
[07:22] <OculusAquilae> jjesse: the web page: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/keep/
[07:22] <jjesse> OculusAquilae: thanks
[07:23] <jjesse> is there a way i can tell the version of a kubuntu disk when i forget to label it besides booting from it? :)
[07:24] <OculusAquilae> jjesse: I think if you put it into a running system it shows it (or is it a development release?)
[07:25] <jjesse> i htink it is a development release and currently booted into xp
[07:26] <OculusAquilae> Hm, I don't know if dev releases now their build date
[07:28] <jjesse> cleaning out laptop bavg for my trip
[07:29] <jjesse> found 2 kubuntu cds, 2 blank dvd-r and a vista businness edition install ;)
[07:34] <TheInfinity> strange collection ...
[07:37] <jjesse> yeah, well my cd case has visio 2007, office 2007, win 2k3, sql 2005, 3 games, 2 music cds and 3 kubuntu installs
[07:37] <jjesse> oh yeah, plus xp pro and win2k pro
[07:37] <jjesse> life of a consultant
[07:38] <jjesse> plus in my bag i have 3 2 gig usb sticks and 2 120 gig usb drives
[07:39] <OculusAquilae> jjesse: I try to write to JRe via Jabber