=== glatzor [n=renate@p57AEE3D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:39] is there a link form kdesu -> kdesudo ? [12:43] no, a dpkg redirect [12:47] so they will be no kdesu? [12:48] you can run kdesu.distrib or apt-get remove kdesudo [12:49] ok [12:50] Just worried about the hundreds of walkthroughs that say kdesu suddenly having a non working command [12:51] why would it be non working? [12:52] I thought that kdesudo was replacing kdesu [12:53] yes, in /usr/bin/kdesu [12:58] ah ok :) [01:06] is there a kde app in repos to remove the DRM for a .wma [01:11] gnomefreak: I don't know there is a windows program for that. [01:12] there is? [01:23] gnomefreak: No I don't think that there is a windows program that does that. the new wmf is pretty well encrypted [01:25] ok ty i have idea run to library take out the cd and use soundjuicer === Gladiator [n=Gladiato@85.102.91.247] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-67-36-62-55.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Gladiator Megul ! [03:01] Riddell: Hmm. When you wake up, mind loging into egroupware and telling me if there's anybody else who needs an account (I've got all the kubuntu-members)? I'm sending you username/pass/etc... === mdark [n=Sea@60.20.51.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-085.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:40] bug 439357 === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] what about it? [04:12] :) === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-102.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jonathan@adsl-67-36-62-55.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:09] Is mvo normally on kubuntu-devel or ubuntu-devel or neither? [06:10] manchicken: I've seen him on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-bugs. [06:10] I don't see him now... [06:10] I hear he was wanting to do a package manager in Python that would use common code between Kubuntu and Ubuntu. [06:11] I should probably pick up python sooner or later. [06:13] Or is Ruby the language that all the cool kids are using for KDE4 stuff? === glatzor [n=renate@p57AEFDDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@122.2.246.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@194.95.66.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg|nb [n=me@194.95.66.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg|nb is now known as frosconlogger === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-52-22.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@194.95.66.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-102.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-102.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === d3ce1t [n=srg@144.Red-88-2-126.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-253-171.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi2g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:31] hi folks === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F213A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:58] morning. Anyone known show to see which 'events' media managers sees? (Me tries to figure out how to start kdeblueooth when BT stick is inserted) === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] hello yet again :o) [11:03] hi mhb [11:03] allee: it listens to hal, kdebase/kioslave/media/mediamanager/halbackend.cpp === Hobbsee waves [11:03] Riddell: isn't there a tool to monitor kde's media manager events? === allee waves back === allee ponders if a service desktop file with mimetype */*; Will do the trick ... [11:07] allee: you could try asking ervin === freeflyi2g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:10] ah #solid [11:10] Riddell: thx === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:24] Riddell: ervin told me that there will be no media-manager events. So either listen to hal directly or listen to bluez dbus events. Would be a little autostart script python that waiting in background for device insert/removal be acceptable/makes sense for gutsy? === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-170-86.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:44] python-bluez in universe :( === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:55] allee: that would make sense sure [11:55] we can get things promoted if they are needed [11:57] Riddell: mhm, k. I've currently looking into dbus-x11 (not installed by default, but in main) if it can be done via scripting too. Thx for info === freeflyi2g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee wishes kdbus hang all the time :( [12:05] anyone know what " text " in C is? i know */ text /* is comment but not sure what the " are for [12:06] Tonio_: kbt autostart on bt insert/remove: ervin told me that there no media manager events for it in KDE3. So the options are small python-bluez (universe) script autostarted waiting for insert/unplug. Alternatively maybe shell script?; Listen to hal events (argl ;). Not sure if I can find more time this weekend. === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@250.Red-83-44-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:08] Tonio_: independently please consider 'Exec=hciconfig | grep -q . && kdeblueooth' works around disturbing warning when no BT device is available [12:08] bye === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:38] today is a bad day for IRC === Arby [n=richard@82.152.178.205] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] mhb: oh? [12:42] Hobbsee: irssi keeps reconnecting all the time (not sure why, it's fine usually) and the fabbione logs are dead, too [12:42] mhb: ahh === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@200.Red-81-39-193.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === frosconlogger [n=me@194.95.66.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi2g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vprints [n=kasutaja@213-35-242-149-dsl.end.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:36] does guidance share code with displayconfig-gtk ? === Zerlinna [n=mirjam@C6fd9.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Gladiator [n=Gladiato@85.102.91.247] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-163.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick is now known as Hobbsee === frosconlogger [n=me@194.95.66.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F213A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@pdpc/supporter/active/stdin] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi-m [n=czessi@194.95.66.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387DE2A.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ris [n=ris@cpc4-bedn1-0-0-cust277.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:53] i hope by release, gutsy is going to decide whether it's going to be blue-green or blue-purple, because hovering on the border or having a mix of the two is quite ugly [02:53] case in point - new kdm in tribe5 [02:55] ris: I think artists kwwii is away for the weekend [02:56] you can discuss it on ubuntu-art mailing list or on irc with him on monday [02:56] Riddell: tch, cowboy [02:57] Riddell, does guidance share code with displayconfig-gtk ? === ris realises he should get rid of all his feisty cds before they become outdated [02:59] vprints: yes displayconfig-gtk uses the guidance backend === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.84.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel === d3ce1t [n=srg@144.Red-88-2-126.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] will guidance also get the Home / Office/ ... / settings grouping in gutsy ? 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I noticed he hasn't been around. [05:33] he took a little break === d3ce1t [n=srg@144.Red-88-2-126.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === frosconlogger [n=me@194.95.66.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:41] robotgeek: dude, those transparent screens are cool === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F213A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:13] what's the default search program in kubuntu gutsy, tracker or strigi? [06:14] strigi [06:14] tracker is a Gnome program for eating up all your CPU time. [06:14] :-) [06:17] hehe [06:17] afternoon :) [06:17] all strigi needs is a nice user friendly ui...other than that, it is pretty good actually [06:17] excellent observation.....it is afternoon. [06:17] howdy jjesse [06:18] not here it isn't [06:18] still have 40+ minutes :) [06:18] silly central time zone people [06:18] yeah,,, [06:18] Chicago Standard Time! [06:18] i'm sure that's what it stands for [06:18] hehe [06:18] it is now! [06:22] jjesse: you gonna be helping out on some kde4 doc work? [06:22] nixternal: sure is there a lot to do? [06:22] oh ya [06:22] Phil and I are starting to discuss it a bit and you aren't around which is odd :) [06:22] nixternal: ok [06:23] nixternal: i've been swamped w/ work [06:23] I can help with docs.. [06:23] nosrednaekim: #kde-docs :) [06:24] ok [06:31] is the kbfx version of kubuntu gutsy compiled with strigi support? === Hobbsee is now known as LongPointyStick === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@194.95.66.31] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:58] so those jerks at dell limit my laptop to 3.2 gig via something in the hardware even though i can purchase 4 gigs of RAM [07:00] that is cool [07:01] yeah too bad i bought the extra memory before I new i would never bee able to use it === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@60-223-dsl.kielnet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:06] Hi [07:07] Is anybody working on the backup system Keep? [07:12] i'm doing some work on the documentation [07:14] jjesse: of Keep? [07:16] OculusAquilae: yes [07:18] jjesse: are you in contact with JRe, I would like to do porting to kde4 and so on [07:18] OculusAquilae: i posted somethings on the bug in regards to this on kde's bugtracker but haven't had further contact [07:18] do you have an email address? [07:19] jjesse: I wrote the the address in the about page [07:20] about keep page? [07:20] yes [07:21] ok i'll contact him [07:21] I wrote an E-mail already [07:21] no answer till now [07:22] jjesse: the web page: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/keep/ [07:22] OculusAquilae: thanks [07:23] is there a way i can tell the version of a kubuntu disk when i forget to label it besides booting from it? :) [07:24] jjesse: I think if you put it into a running system it shows it (or is it a development release?) [07:25] i htink it is a development release and currently booted into xp [07:26] Hm, I don't know if dev releases now their build date [07:28] cleaning out laptop bavg for my trip [07:29] found 2 kubuntu cds, 2 blank dvd-r and a vista businness edition install ;) === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:34] strange collection ... 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