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DaSkreechsehe: alt+space -> ctrl+C12:35
sehemalqos: i'd say try settings:/LookNFeel/ , Icons or Themes12:35
terrestrei love katapult12:35
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seheDaSkreech: good tip ty12:35
terrestrespell and calculator rock in katapult jaja12:35
albertmkDaSkreech, same here...12:35
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valentin13GA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 110M / GeForce Go 7300 (rev a1)12:36
DaSkreechalbertmk: oh try alt+space -> spell -> <spacebar> --> type words12:36
sehemalqos: you might have to create a theme containing the trash icon, but there should be ways to cahnge the single icon12:36
DaSkreechjohn777: decided what you are asking about yet?12:36
valentin13driver name12:36
terrestrealt + space 12312:36
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seheDaSkreech: i assumed john777 was pretty obvious and shallow question -> satisfied12:37
albertmkyay12:37
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DaSkreechsehe:  I'm with you but if he actually needs help I'd like to see if I can give it12:37
anatoliy.12:38
DaSkreechassuming that john777 is a he :)12:38
seheDaSkreech: I mean I don't go to @sales-microsoft and ask 'Is Vista worth my money' :D12:38
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terrestre!kubuntu12:38
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE12:38
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SubOneI just started a Krdc session with a friend and my screen resolution just went to like 640x480 and scrolls when i move my mouse to the borders of the screen... how do i fix it?12:38
DaSkreechsehe: Seeing as how he doesn't know what kubuntu is he may need help out of here and to where he is actually going12:38
terrestre!kde12:38
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.12:38
DaSkreech!windows12:39
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents12:39
terrestreguajajaja12:39
terrestreubotu its so funny12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about its so funny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
terrestrelol12:39
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SubOnecan someone answer my question, i can barely see anything12:39
seheDaSkreech: obviously. I *have* answered the question (a bit more cnstructiveley than, er, some others :)) so i'll wait if there are more question s12:39
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DaSkreechSubOne: are you on the computer with the bad resolution now?12:40
SubOneyes12:40
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DaSkreech!resolution12:40
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:40
DaSkreechSubOne: That URL might help12:40
SubOneDaSkreech: I don't want to restart X though...12:40
DaSkreechOh wait12:40
seheSubOne: reconnect the session. YOu probably tried to 'move' a fullscreen window. Things get a little messy with (1) krdc (2) fullscreen (3) move (alt+drag) (4) beryl12:40
DaSkreechKrdc12:40
DaSkreechHmm12:40
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DaSkreechlisten to sehe :)12:41
jenny_what is the terminal command to delete wine12:41
SubOnesehe how do i stop krdc from goign fullscreen, this happens everytime12:41
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jenny_apt-uninstal wine?12:41
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seheSubOne: I usually run Krdc in a separate X terminal without window manager in fullscreen. That way, all my keyboard events get ahndled by the remote session and I don't confuse the screen drawing12:42
ELMANIFICOwho is from BG?12:42
sehejenny_: sudo apt-get remove wine12:42
jenny_thanks12:42
SubOnesehe I closed it, but my res is still messed up12:42
seheSubOne: that might be a bit complicated for your purposes...12:42
SubOne?12:42
terrestreim the only guy that use more aptitude than apt-get?12:42
ELMANIFICOwhy i can not enter in another chanel?12:43
seheSubOne: ok.. I have seen that happen with some gnome eductional games. There wasn't a solution except to logon again12:43
jenny_is it possible to somehow partition and put windows (yuck) on the computer to let my mother run juno?12:43
seheELMANIFICO: what do you do to try?12:43
SubOnesehe, i dont get how krdc can change my res, but i cant?12:43
sehe'/join #channel'12:43
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m4v3r1ckterrestre: there's any difference between apt-get and aptitude? I'm seriusly asking12:44
ELMANIFICOam, i clik "FILE" after that i clik "join chanel"12:44
seheSubOne: i suppose it shouldn't. It never did with me. It could be a bug. Like I said, I know of some gnome games that have that effect12:44
seheELMANIFICO: what IRC client?12:44
albertmkWhen I type "apt-get install x", it sometimes also install y packets too. If I type "apt-get remove x", will it also remove y?12:44
terrestreyeah, aptitude make a more large dependecies checking12:44
sehealbertmk: no12:44
SubOnesehe, well do you know how to stop it from goign fullscreen when i start it, so this doesnt happen again?12:45
albertmk:(12:45
albertmkthats bad12:45
sehealbertmk: you'll have to do 'sudo apt-get autoremove' to remove any 'unused' dependecies12:45
seheSubOne: yes, there is an advanced option *before* starting, to choose fullscreen mode or not12:46
ELMANIFICOstandart for kubuntu .I have linux kubuntu and i have option for irc ,but i can't join in to BG chanel12:46
terrestre!aptitude12:46
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide12:46
terrestre!aptitude > m4v3r1ck12:46
SubOnesehe: one of these?: krdc -caption "%c" %i %m %u12:46
seheSubOne: uhoh seems like it might not12:46
albertmkso it is highly recommended to use aptitude instead of apt-get ?12:46
seheSubOne: no not captions12:46
SubOnethats my run line12:47
terrestre!apt-get12:47
seheSubOne: where do the params come from then>12:47
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sehe!apt12:47
m4v3r1ckterrestre: gotcha12:47
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:47
SubOnesehe: those were what was in the kmenu when it was installed12:47
ELMANIFICOtanks,and goodnight12:47
terrestreapt-get its more powerfull,12:48
seheSubOne: oh well ok. I use 'krdc' (Alt-F2) :)12:48
DaSkreechjenny_: What's Juno?12:48
seheSubOne: you get a dialog...12:48
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SubOnesehe yes12:48
terrestrei dont know why in howto only use apt-get12:48
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DaSkreechELMANIFICO: Where is the BG channel?12:49
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SubOnesehe i tried setting the res to 1024x768... no help i guess i gotta logon again12:49
seheSubOne: fraid so12:50
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jenny_DaSkreech: its a retarded dial up email internet program that my mother cant live without *sigh*12:50
colkhisHow can I run xdm instead of kdm? I dont have this option at login.12:50
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terrestre!xdm12:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:50
DaSkreechjenny_: It's an ISP/12:50
DaSkreechor a mail client?12:50
terrestrei dont know xdm12:51
jenny_www.juno.com12:51
jenny_it does email and internet12:51
terrestrelol12:51
DaSkreechcolkhis: Just replace it12:51
terrestrejenny_: ? jajaja12:51
sherwini need help with KPPP12:51
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jenny_terrestre: what is jajaja?12:51
DaSkreechWhy do you want XDM?12:51
m4v3r1ckjenny_: hahaha in spanish I suppose12:51
DaSkreechI assume it's a good reason :)12:51
jenny_I absolytely cannot get get juno to run unless I use Linspire but I will not do that.12:52
sherwinmy modem dials out and gets that "handshake" tones, but i get an error from KPPP "Timeout expired while waiting for the ppp interface to come up"12:52
jenny_it doesnt support wine either12:52
terrestrei thought that jenny_ was a spam12:52
seheDaSkreech: probably for LTSP-like purposes with standard xdmcp caps12:52
DaSkreechjenny_: Use Gparted and make a 4 Gig partition for Windows12:52
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jenny_i am not a spam. i am a cranky woman who has to get this program to work one way or another12:52
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terrestrethe programa juno?12:53
colkhisDaSkreech: Which configuration file says what the default dm is?12:53
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colkhisDaSkreech: No good reason really :). Just testing something.12:53
sehecolkhis: i'd recommend kdm over xdm. It has a larger feature set, and needless to say runs KDE nicely12:53
jenny_i'll have to buy windows wont i, there is no "skeleton version" that will take less space? its only going to be used for running juno12:53
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DaSkreechsehe: No it doesn't :-P12:54
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jenny_my stubborn mother refuses to use the better email programs12:54
seheDaSkreech: *sigh* please explain what doesnt12:54
DaSkreechthe DM has no influence on how the desktop or window manager runs12:54
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DaSkreech it may integrate more nicely12:54
SubOnesehe: even if i set it to 1024x768 (my current res) is still meses it up12:54
colkhissehe: I know. I am using it all the time. Just wondering how theoretically it can be replaced for one session.12:54
terrestrejenny_: mm wine doesnt work?12:54
seheDaSkreech: than that might be what i meant :D12:55
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jenny_no, juno will not work with wine (per juno tech support)12:55
DaSkreechcause you can have a seamless KDM -> kDE splash -> KDE desktop transistion12:55
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sehecolkhis: That's a bit counter to the nature of a DM. I'd say it can;t12:55
DaSkreechcolkhis: Oh one session that's easy12:55
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DaSkreechinstall xdm and I should ask to be set as default say no12:55
sehecolkhis: You can use KDM to launch a gnome session though. Hit Alt-T in the logon screen12:56
AzzcoHi, file transfer in kopete with gtalk doesn't work does it? =(12:56
DaSkreech then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start12:56
runleveltenDon't bother asking tech support whether stuff will work with wine, as 90% of the time they don't have the first idea and/or say no as a matter of policy12:56
jenny_I figure if I cant get wine or linux to work it then I will have no other choice but to put windows back on my computer12:56
seheOr any other installed desktop session type12:56
jenny_I couldnt get wine to work anyways12:56
DaSkreechjenny_: Safe assumption. I'm taking it you have no Windows install CD?12:56
jenny_not anymore I dont12:56
jenny_actually thinking back it came preinstalled on the computer when i bought it (of course huh)12:57
DaSkreechjenny_: Well ask your mom for the asking price of Vista :) that should get her to convert rigth quick12:57
jenny_i do not want to pay to put that crap back on my computer if I can avoid it12:57
runleveltenIs this the music download software?12:57
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colkhissehe: I don't have gnome installed. I so have xdm though. But no option for it on the login screen. (using kubuntu7.04).12:57
runleveltenjenny_: Is this the music download software?12:57
seheSubOne: you might search synaptic for 'rdp' and select one of the other available clients. Most will use 'rdesktop' as the backend, but you may have more luck12:57
jenny_no, i deleted juno when i switched to linux so it will be ME paying it12:57
DaSkreechcolkhis: you do know that XDM IS the login screen right?12:57
albertmkomg, Vista doesnt work12:58
SubOneis rdesktop not what i want then?12:58
DaSkreech!doesnt work12:58
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.12:58
albertmkCant even play damn StarCraft on Vista!!!12:58
sehealbertmk: lol that seems a redundant remakr12:58
runleveltenYeah, it's Vista. It's not *supposed* to "work".12:58
jenny_run: no its an email program that also lets her go online. And doing juno online via the internet (FF) isnt the same12:58
seheSubOne: rdesktop *is* what you use. It is the CLI12:58
jenny_different lay out, different features, etc12:58
SubOneok12:59
SubOnesehe ill look for another, ty12:59
seheSubOne: however, the GUI clients like krdc are easy to use12:59
terrestrejenny_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1195979 <--- something like that?12:59
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jenny_I wonder if there is some way around having to BUY it12:59
SubOnesehe, yeah but it breaks my res12:59
colkhisDaSkreech: May be, but from that login screen I can start KDE session and failsafe mode. I can not get the xdm with ugly green windows and grey background.12:59
seheSubOne: mmm nasty12:59
DaSkreechcolkhis: I don't think you know what you are asking for :)12:59
sehecolkhis: you mean like. twm?!01:00
DaSkreechcolkhis: You want X without the KDE?01:00
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runleveltenI'm looking to see if I can download a trial or something to try in wine01:00
SubOnesehe: also ever since i first started using it, now my login screen resoultion is all messed up when i first turn on the computer01:00
colkhisyes i guess that's what I want01:00
sehecolkhis: that's as simple as 'sudo X :1'01:00
jenny_terre: that is the program she wants to run however I am not able to get wine to run it (never could seem to figure it out no matter how much confusing jargon i read)01:00
DaSkreechjenny_: Did the computer come with a CD?01:00
seheSubOne: ok ic01:00
jenny_I have the compaq system restore cd01:00
DaSkreech>_<01:00
SubOnesehe: I don't know how to fix it01:00
seheSubOne: Try to restore a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf then01:00
DaSkreechthat will wipe the whole drive01:01
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sehe!x | SubOne01:01
ubotuSubOne: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:01
sherwinneed some help with a dialup connection... anyone game?01:01
SubOnesehe: Krdc edits the xorg.conf?01:01
raylu!ask | sherwin01:01
ubotusherwin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:01
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DaSkreechcolkhis: the command that sehe gave should do you right01:02
sherwini need help configuring a dialup connection. The error i keep getting from KPPP is something regarding timeout waiting for ppp interface to start01:02
seheSubOne: I shan't think so, but maybe some things interfered resulting in .... bla. At least, kdm *reads* xorg.conf, so it makes sense to look there01:02
jenny_i dont want to have to start from scratch all over again, thats how i got in this jam in the first place. there has GOT to be a way to keep kubuntu and get a free kind of windows that is only "windows enough" to just run this one program01:02
jenny_Its very frustrating01:02
DaSkreechjenny_: what does she use Juno for?01:02
sehecolkhis: after that use 'DISPLAY=:1 xterm&' e.g. to start applications01:02
jenny_da: email01:02
DaSkreechI guess you could get Windows 9801:03
DaSkreechIt's small and old01:03
jenny_da: free?01:03
colkhissehe: thanks. I think thats what I wanted.01:03
runleveltenYou could always run it in a vm if you felt the need to.01:03
sehejenny_: i suppose you can find it 'free'01:03
sehecolkhis: cheers01:03
runleveltenAt least then you could protect it with a decent OS.01:03
jenny_da: going to do a google search for free win 9801:03
sehejenny_: in case you need a key, it's '3555 -5555' (or more 5's as needed)01:04
runleveltenIt wants me to "sign up" before I can get the client. That sucks.01:04
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jenny_sehe: a key? what?01:04
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sehejenny_: Windows asks a key when installing. Win98 being *oooold* no real key is needed. 355555... it he 'default' key to use01:04
seheit he = is the *01:05
runleveltenDid you try installing the linspire package?01:05
sehe!info linspire | sehe01:05
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jenny_run: I thought linspire would be replacing kubuntu if i downloaded it01:05
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tombaranyone here that frequently plays wow via wine is expiriencing problems after last kubuntu update?01:06
seheomg! it's 1am i should be in coma01:06
DaSkreechsehe: Please don't help with warez01:06
runleveltenIf there's a juno package for linspire it will probably install on kubuntu01:06
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DaSkreech I was more thinking asking a friend if they had a copy01:06
sehecheers kind ppls i have had a good time01:06
sehecya01:06
DaSkreech !vm01:06
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications01:06
DaSkreechjenny_: ^^^01:06
DaSkreechthat may help your woes a lot btw01:06
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seheDaSkreech: i venture that you could even obtain win98 'free' from microsoft, where it not that they want to avoid the suggestion that they'd still support it01:07
jenny_i dont know what that stuff is01:07
jenny_i barely know what im doing with kubuntu (switched from windows)01:07
seheDaSkreech: I can, for a fact, download it for free from MSDN, and the key (355555) is mentioned in the PUBLIC area01:07
terrestrefor qemu you need a dual core01:07
jenny_i dont have a dual core01:07
seheDaSkreech: thanks for good company :)01:08
DaSkreechsehe: You will never get old Software free from windows01:08
jenny_i'm confused01:08
DaSkreech they will tell you very blatnantly how bad it is and what a mistake it is to run it and point you at new working secure perfect softwre01:09
DaSkreechjenny_: Sorry01:09
DaSkreechjenny_: Those are Virtual machines. A computer program that pretends to be a operating system01:09
tombaranyone here that frequently plays wow via wine is expiriencing problems after last kubuntu update???01:09
runleveltenhttp://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?product_id=1213001:10
runlevelten:\01:10
DaSkreechYou run it and it simulates a Computer starting up. YOu can run it in a window with a whole new Operating systme01:10
DaSkreechtombar: #winehq01:10
jenny_da: really? so i dont have to feed the devil by paying for windows?01:10
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DaSkreechjenny_: You can install it and install windows inside01:10
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jenny_da: i can install windows in it for free?01:11
tombarty DaSkreech01:11
DaSkreechjenny_: nope still gotta pay :) but it makes your maintence and overall life easier01:11
runleveltenIf you have a windows license, yes.01:11
jenny_dont suppose there is an apt-get install free fake windows?01:11
jenny_:)01:11
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runleveltenwine.01:11
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scheater5Isn't virtualbox in the repos?  Then you could just "sudo apt-get install virtualbox" - which is darn close to "install free fake windows"01:12
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DaSkreechjenny_: :-) We are trying to wean you off as much as possible why give drugs to a druggie?01:12
DaSkreechscheater5: Except you still have to buy windows01:12
scheater5DaScreech: very true.01:12
jenny_da: you dont have to because i have no intention of using it. It is for my mother who will only use juno for email and absolutely refuses to use any other email program and isnt happy with the online juno01:13
runleveltenjenny_: you know you can press tab to complete names.01:13
scheater5jenny: and you've had no joy with wine?01:13
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jenny_runlevelten: thanks for that tip, i will be sure to remember that01:13
jenny_scheater5: not one little bit01:14
runleveltenWell a VM program will do the job just dandy.01:14
terrestrebut juno its available for linespire01:14
jenny_terrestre: if i download linspire it will replace kubuntu right?01:14
rayluthat depends on how you install it01:14
runleveltenand as mentioned, I'm pretty darn sure that if you lay your hands on that deb we can try and get it running on kubuntu for you.01:14
raylubut i wouldn't recommend linspire01:14
jenny_deb?01:14
raylu.deb files are debian packages01:15
terrestredeb like .exe in windows01:15
jenny_oh01:15
runleveltenthe linspire version of juno.01:15
terrestre.deb = .exe01:15
rayluer...no they're not, terrestre01:15
scheater5If it's available for linspire, in theory isn't the source avaiable, and therefore it's "available" for ubuntu, too - you just have to compile it.01:15
runleveltenNo, they're really not at all.01:15
terrestrei now01:15
terrestrei mean01:15
scheater5raylu: there's close enough for this discussion.01:15
terrestrei know01:15
runleveltenscheater5: No.01:15
terrestrerunlevelten: go ahead to the explanation to jenny_01:16
scheater5Juno proprietary, they just released an executable for linspire?01:16
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runleveltenjenny, those debs are like the "Installshield" thingies you download, but a whole lot smarter and better.01:16
jenny_i dont know how to download linspire in a manner that will not replace kubuntu01:16
raylumake a new partition for it01:16
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runleveltenor install it in a vm.01:17
scheater5jenny: sounds like you're after a dual boot.01:17
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jenny_scheater5: yes01:17
terrestrei dont know linespire01:17
jenny_its my last hope of making juno work and making her happy01:18
scheater5terrestre: I wouldn't recommend it, but it isn't horrible.01:18
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terrestrebut if you already have linespire, kubuntu can put pretty easy to a dual boot01:18
jenny_terrestre: i dont have linspire01:18
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jenny_terrestre: i know where to download it online01:18
jenny_terrestre:  but i'd scream if i did it wrong and wiped kubuntu. i have never partitioned before01:19
scheater5so, then, jenny, what is your setup now.  What are you running on the computer that you want juno on?01:19
terrestrelinespire its debian base too01:19
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jenny_scheater5: my set up? I have Kubuntu (but not KDE)01:19
scheater5thats...interesting.  So a kubuntu install, and then you uninstalled kde?01:20
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jenny_scheater5:  no, i had a friend put it on for me from his computer on the east coast while i watched01:21
scheater5Well, at any rate, I guess that's irrelevant - so you have the entire harddrive in one partition, and kubuntu takes up all of it?01:21
jenny_scheater5: i believe so yes because its the only thing running01:21
scheater5Do you know what kind of filesystem the partition is?  ex2, ex3, xfs, etc?01:22
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jenny_let me ask the fella who put it on for me brb01:22
DaSkreechscheater5: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=119597901:22
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DaSkreechscheater5: see if that helps01:23
terrestrehow i can get that deb to linespirte?01:23
scheater5What am I looking at here, DaSkreech?  Doesn't that say there's a deb for juno somewhere?01:24
DaSkreechscheater5: There is01:24
DaSkreechOn the Juno site01:24
terrestrebut we need a account01:24
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terrestrehttp://www.linspire.com/products_linspire_whatis.php <-- lol01:24
DaSkreechhttp://www.juno.com/support/faq/fgtg04.html01:24
DaSkreechterrestre: That's great!01:25
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DaSkreechThey have KDE as a plus over Ubuntu :)01:25
scheater5I would assume Jenny has an account if his mother is already using it.  That kind of makes all this talk of installing other OS's and distros moot.  All jenny needs is that deb01:25
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DaSkreechscheater5: jenny_ is female01:25
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scheater5I didn't know, so I used the neutral him.01:26
DaSkreechThat's cool just letting you know01:26
scheater5Thanks.01:26
jenny_scheater5: I had tried downloading the linspire set up but it couldnt find a something or other to run it and told me i had to install internet explorer01:26
runleveltenThat's what I'm thinking, get the deb, try and drop it on kubuntu - probably find it works fine01:27
scheater5Well, jenny, it would seem that we have come up with something simpler.  And runlevelten just beat me to it.01:27
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jenny_drop it on kubuntu?01:27
scheater5lol - install it01:27
jenny_let me try that again because last time it said what i said it said before01:28
runleveltenIt's aptable as well I assume. Anyone got access to a Linspire sources.list?01:28
jenny_what about using frespire instead? i dont want to pay01:28
jenny_i'm broke01:28
scheater5not a bad idea - I don't, but I bet there's one floating around somewhere, like a linspire forum.01:29
runleveltenI did actually suggest that a way up there ^^^, but nobody listens to me.01:29
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zabadappquestion: i get over 90% "wait" (in top) while copying a dvd (with dma on) ... the same happened while copying to an usb-memorystick ... anyone know where to look?01:29
terrestrewhat do you downloaded from juno?01:29
jenny_terrestre: it was the link that said Juno Linspire Set Up01:30
scheater5While freespire is an option, I highly suggest you just download the .deb and install it.  "dpkg [path to file] .deb"01:30
jenny_scheater5:  I dont know what that means either01:30
jenny_sorry about my ignorance guys01:30
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runleveltenjenny_: no probs01:30
zabadapp(or right-click --> "install")01:30
runleveltenDo we actually have the deb then?01:31
runleveltenanyone?01:31
scheater5No worries - and who said they found a link to the deb?  If they're not around I'll find it.01:31
scheater5I think it was DaSkreech - you still around, man?01:31
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terrestrewhat is the name of the thing that you downloaded01:31
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DaSkreechscheater5: In a manner of speaking01:31
jenny_terrestre: be right back, i have to check01:32
scheater5Did you ever actually lay your hands, metaphorically speaking, on that deb?  Or do you have a link?01:32
runleveltenAha! I have a tarball of it.01:33
DaSkreechhttp://www.juno.com/support/faq/fgtg04.html01:33
DaSkreechI have that01:33
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DaSkreechrunlevelten: URL?01:33
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terrestreWe also support a Linspire (Linux) version of Juno. For more information, please visit the main Juno page.01:34
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LogicalDashWhen I save my session in KDE, the Tomboy tray icon isn't preserved. What could be going wrong?01:34
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runleveltenRight, I just need to get into something a little more kubuntu and get this juno thing working. BRB01:34
jenny_she has juno platimun01:35
scheater5Linspire is debian based, right?  So the file is .deb?  Which means, assuming all dependencies are met, we can just throw it on kubuntu?01:35
jeffmitchellhi all, does anyone here know how to make apache open automatically on startup? (via the command line?)01:35
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DaSkreechLogicalDash: Tomboy doesn't respect KDE sessions01:36
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DaSkreechscheater5: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=119597901:37
LogicalDashDaSkreech, any easy way I can just make it run on startup then? Maybe .bash_profile or something?01:37
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ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.01:37
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LogicalDashDaSkreech, thanks!01:38
jeffmitchellubotu: but if i only have a CLI?01:39
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LogicalDashjeffmitchell, ubotu is a robot01:39
jeffmitchellopps01:39
Doctor_Nickthe shame was too much01:39
DaSkreechjeffmit.. damn!01:39
jenny_whats this? http://www.juno.com/support/faq/fgp01.html01:39
DaSkreechjenny_: Btw please write juno and thank them very much for supporting Linux01:40
terrestrelol01:40
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scheater5Well, someone there apparently got it to work with mepis, but that page no longer exists.  So, it seems that all you have do to is meet the dependencies (which it seems is merely java) and then install the deb01:40
terrestrei think that him dont have the .deb01:41
terrestredont has the juno for linespire01:41
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scheater5I was getting there!  Apparently somewhere in that juno site is a deb for linspire that works out of the box with ubuntu, I just can't access it because I can't sign into the juno site.  But that's what seems to be true, judging from that forum posting DaSkreech sent me.01:42
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DaSkreechjenny_: you will have to login on the site to get the deb01:42
DaSkreechI have to go01:42
DaSkreech My country is under lock down and night is coming01:42
underdog5004I've got a scripting question, anyone ready for it?01:43
terrestrewhat country DaSkreech?01:43
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, shoot01:43
drifDaSkreech: which country is that?01:43
DaSkreechjamaica01:43
terrestreooh01:43
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drif:-\01:43
jenny_i did. i am under her log in now. i was able to download the linspire set up before, but when i went to use wine i thought it would work better with windows because of something someone else told me in another chat program so i deleted that and downloaded the juno set up for windows. i just deleted that and am trying to find the download for linspire. i found it but now it wont let me access it because he has juno platinum. what a mess01:43
scheater5Well, that sucks.  Peace, DaSkreech.01:43
zabadappunderdog5004: yes01:43
runleveltenI'm just trying to build the juno deb for kubuntu now.01:44
scheater5runlevelten: I think jenny just said she got it installed, and was now having trouble signing in01:44
underdog5004hitmanWilly, ok, I've got a server with...movies on it. Occasionally, I'll scp a movie to my desktop. I also do rsync backups from my desktop to my server. I want to build a list (easy with ls) of files in my movies dir on my server, and have my desktop parse that and look for/exclude matches that are found on my desktop:/home/me/Desktop/01:44
underdog5004lol01:44
DaSkreechrunlevelten: Please give me the URL for the tarball you have I think it's spurious01:44
jenny_i'm hoping that i dont have to delete her juno platimun in order to download the linspire just to see if it works because if itdoesnt then i'll never hear the end of it01:44
DaSkreechscheater5: No she said she had the deb and deleted it01:44
runleveltenI've just logged out of the system where I got it DaSkreech01:45
DaSkreechjenny_: No fear of having to do that :)01:45
scheater5DaSkreech: Ah - I retract that statement then.01:45
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, man diff, that should get you started :)01:45
underdog5004ok, thanks01:46
DaSkreechunderdog5004: and ls -101:46
underdog5004why -l?01:46
DaSkreechthat's a one not a l01:46
underdog5004oh01:46
DaSkreechI knew you were going to do that :)01:46
underdog5004ha ha01:46
runleveltenRight, I have the startup screen.01:46
underdog5004I see the output is different, thank you01:46
sparrwhen i install/upgrade kde it asks if i want windows or kde style hotkeys and window behavior.  specifically if i want one or two clicks to open files/programs.  where can i change that?01:46
DaSkreechBye all see you when I get home and have a bath01:46
jenny_i'm going to email juno and askthem to send me the linspire dec01:46
jenny_deb01:46
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runleveltenjenny_: I have the linux client running here on kubuntu, but no way to test it as I have no account. You want I should chuck you what I have?01:47
DaSkreechjenny_: again thank them for supporting LInux. let them know you have issues but thank them for showing the consideration01:47
DaSkreechNight!!01:47
runleveltenJuno: Signup - I want to create a new account | I already have an account: Member ID01:48
runleveltenetc01:48
scheater5Alright all, it's about that time for me.  PEACE01:48
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jenny_to the fellas leaving: thanks for helping me, i really do appreciate your time!01:48
runleveltenjenny_: PMing you.01:49
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jenny_runlevelten:  it wont let me PM because i am not registered01:50
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runleveltenok, type /msg nickserv register and follow the instructions01:51
jenny_where do i type that?01:51
runleveltenanywhere01:51
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runleveltenie: anywhere in your irc program01:51
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jenny_can i type it in here where i am typing now01:51
runleveltenyeah01:51
jenny_i dont understand what it just spat out at me01:52
jenny_[Notice]  -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>01:52
runleveltenOK, let me find a non-work server for you to download from then.01:52
runleveltenI can't give out a work one on main.01:52
jenny_ [Notice]  -NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information01:52
elite101hey (althou i feel dumb for saying this) can i make a HDD into a ISO image? like 9660? i have a windows cd but its wrecked and my HDD has it on there so i was wondering if u can partition a HDD so that it will boot up the isoimage?01:53
runleveltenyou just type /msg nickserv register yourchosenpasswordhere01:53
elite101dont flame on me but maybe it might work?01:53
jenny_ [Notice]  -NickServ- The nickname [Jenny_]  is already registered01:53
runleveltenhang on.01:54
elite101u need this01:54
elite101 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>01:54
goodhabitAdept manager - is front-end for aptitude? Or apt-get? Or...?01:54
elite101type in ur password in the <>01:54
elite101jenny, type  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password> and fill in the pasword01:54
elite101jenny_, ^01:54
drifelite101: I believe the main prob is that your dvd media isn't writable as such.. like hdd or flash-disk is and might cause some probs with normal windows installation01:55
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elite101mhm? well i dont see why?01:55
jenny_ /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <Patrick>01:55
elite101i can try it?01:55
jenny_?01:55
elite101ohhh lol01:55
elite101:) thans01:55
runleveltenjenny_: download http://www.edsgenericforum.com/hotlinks/juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz01:55
elite101nice password01:55
runleveltenlet me know when that's done01:55
elite101lol linespire?01:57
elite101:S01:57
runleveltenjenny_: You done man?01:58
runlevelten:|01:58
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underdog5004which program would I use to strip "/path/to/my/files" from a file several hundred times?01:59
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:59
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underdog5004rajkalyan, please stop02:00
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underdog5004thank you, rajkalyan02:00
jenny_runlevelten: it said The process for the http://www.edsgenericforum.com protocol died unexpectedly.02:00
drifunderdog5004: awk/sed?02:00
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jenny_elite101: re: my password, be nice02:01
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runleveltenjenny_: Would you mind hurrying it up if you want this sorted... it's kind of 1am here..02:02
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jenny_runlevelten: it said The process for the http://www.edsgenericforum.com protocol died unexpectedly. so now i dont know what to do02:03
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elite101lol password i can bee as mean as possible if i knew ur email and stuff i can raid everything with that password ;) but im not like that so no worry it was just a slip of the rist :)02:03
runleveltenpaste it into firefox or something then http://www.edsgenericforum.com/hotlinks/juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz02:03
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rajkalyan>-)02:04
jenny_ok02:04
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drifjenny_: wget "http://www.edsgenericforum.com/hotlinks/juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz" - would that work better?02:04
runleveltenchoose save to disk02:04
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jenny_oh god the computerx crashing02:05
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drifhm..02:06
runleveltenNo feedback on whether you've got it yet?02:06
runleveltenRight, I'm going to have to go, so here are some instructions someone else can walk you through.02:07
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runleveltenYou need to untar the download, then you need to do: sudo cp -dpR marlin_build_juno-6.2 /opt/juclient02:07
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runleveltenthen you need to do /opt/juclient/runclient.sh02:08
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runleveltenif you keep those instructions so you can paste them back, people will be able to understand and help.02:09
runleveltenI really must go to bed, as I have to be up for 6 am02:09
runleveltenShe went.02:09
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runleveltenFor goodness' sake.02:09
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Hueydoes using the low-latency kernel affect qemu performance?02:10
runleveltenjenny_:02:10
runleveltenYou need to untar the download, then you need to do: sudo cp -dpR marlin_build_juno-6.2 /opt/juclient02:10
jenny_POS computer02:10
runleveltenthen you need to do /opt/juclient/runclient.sh02:10
runleveltenif you keep those instructions so you can paste them back, people will be able to understand and help.02:10
runleveltenOK?02:10
jenny_i dont know what that means02:10
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jenny_what is untar02:10
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runleveltenjenny_: I'll tell you in a sec. Just make sure you copy that stuff to a file.02:11
jenny_how02:11
runlevelten Now, if you right click on the download and select "extract  extract here" it will create a folder.02:11
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zabadapprunlevelten:  paste it lika a one-liner! sudo wget x && untar y && cp yada && z.sh  .. or something like that02:11
AzzcoWill hibernate work on a desktop, or is it just for laptops?02:11
jenny_i need the thing that wouldnt load again02:12
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runleveltenhttp://www.edsgenericforum.com/hotlinks/juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz] 02:12
jenny_i'm about to cry02:12
runleveltenhttp://www.edsgenericforum.com/hotlinks/juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz02:12
jenny_page not found02:12
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jenny_it made "Ark" come up02:13
demonsporkon the live disk, is there any way to install the Kubuntu system without it installing GRUB on the HDD?02:13
jenny_i dont know what i am looking at02:13
runleveltenRight, well as long as you've kept the instructions and do them (with help where necessary) you should be good to go, at least until the signing up phase.02:13
drifdemonspork: I believe it asks user for permission before doing that02:14
runleveltenzabadapp: Indeed - however, it's just this second, on my way to bed 4 hours later than I'd hoped, heh02:14
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runleveltenjenny. Right click.02:15
runleveltenNot click.02:15
drifAzzco: I see no reason why hibernate wouldn't work with desktops also02:15
demonsporkat which step?02:15
demonsporkdrif02:15
jenny_on what02:15
drifdemonspork: in the end - last thing after installation02:15
runleveltenon the file you downloaded.02:15
Azzcodrif: it wouldn't work for me on my last motherboard and thoguht it was only for lappys02:15
jenny_i downloaded something when "ark" came up?02:15
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jenny_i havent been able to find the linspire deb again02:16
runleveltendrag the link and drop it on your desktop, or open it in firefox and choose save as... etc02:16
jenny_linspire juno deb i mean02:16
posingaspopularhelp! my k-menu/panel disappered02:16
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runleveltenjenny_: that is the same thing as what you are downloading from that url, packaged differently.02:16
Azzcoposingaspopular: Alt+F2 kicker02:17
elite101lol i did the same thing ;) ^02:17
jenny_runlevelten: ya lost me with drag the link and drop it on your desktop02:17
posingaspopularAzzco: that didnt work02:17
jenny_i see ark with a file name outline02:17
demonsporkdrif, is there a way to install GRUB like the system installer installs it, but from an already installed Ubuntu/Kubuntu system?02:18
runleveltenJenny: just paste the following in a console:02:18
drifdemonspork: yes02:18
demonsporkdrif, so it will install, detecting all the other OSes just like it does initially?02:19
Azzcoposingaspopular: do it in terminal and check for errors02:19
drifdemonspork: ah, not sure about that actually- you might need some manual editing of menu.lst02:19
elite101hey i was wondering if its possible to partition a HDD to pretend its an ISO? so i can boot of it and install the os to another HDD???02:20
jenny_i have konsole open02:20
posingaspopularERROR: kicker is already running!02:20
Azzcoposingaspopular: killall kicker then ;)02:20
posingaspopularah now it's back02:20
AzzcoGood ;)02:20
posingaspopular0.o02:20
runleveltenwget http://www.edsgenericforum.com/hotlinks/juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz && tar -xvzf juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz && sudo cp -dpR marlin_build_juno-6.2 /opt/juclient && /opt/juclient/runclient.sh02:20
posingaspopularand it just disappeared02:20
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AzzcoDo you have any weird settings like disappear after x seconds?02:21
elite101will winrar run in wine?02:21
drifelite101: yes02:21
Azzcoelite101: why would you want that?02:21
posingaspopularAzzco: yea i had it disappear after 2 sec. i disabled it now and im going to leave it that way02:21
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elite101cuz arc doesnt like .rar02:21
AzzcoMy Ark kinda does02:21
demonsporkelite101, I think all you would have to do is literally copy all the files off the ISO live disk and onto the HDD, then you will need to use a bootloader on a disk or something and boot the system02:21
elite101it tells me02:21
elite101ic02:22
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elite101but u see its not a "live cd" *prepare to plug ur ears* its windows xp02:22
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demonsporkwon't work then02:22
drifelite101: winrar is mentioned under 'platinum' list - so it should work very well under wine02:22
demonsporkelite101, try #windows and ask that question02:22
drifelite101: apt-get install unrar02:22
runleveltenthen you can start testing.02:22
drifelite101: after that ark handles .rar02:23
drifelite101: sudo apt-get install unrar02:23
elite101wow02:23
jenny_testing?02:23
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runleveltenFor the shortcuts, you can create ordinary kde ones or you can drag the one out of /opt/juclient02:24
demonsporkjenny_, he is trying to boot the windows Installer from a hdd02:24
demonsporklol02:24
jenny_it asked for a password so I entered the systems password02:24
jenny_then it said DM set to off02:24
jenny_and i am back at jenny@oco02:24
runleveltenthat's the one - you needed that to copy to /opt02:24
jenny_what is a hdd?02:24
elite101Hard diskdrive02:24
runleveltenyeah, juno seems to have dippy focus.02:24
runleveltenLook behind your windows.02:24
elite101its a square kinda solid metal "thingy" u put files and windows/linux/mac on02:25
elite101;)02:25
jenny_oh hard drive02:25
drifelite101: a safe then?02:25
jenny_runlevelten: i looked behind my windows but i dont see anything02:25
runleveltenjenny_: testing because 1) I couldn't test drive it through having no account and 2) I'm going to bed any minute now, heh :)02:25
runleveltenjenny_: it depends on java, btw.02:26
runlevelten!java02:26
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:26
jenny_thats why i was offering you her log in info02:26
runleveltenyou were? Was that in pm because I wouldn't have seen that02:26
jenny_I dont know if its ok to tell her here or not02:27
zabadappeww ... don't give out such stuff02:27
runleveltenNo, main is far too indiscrete02:27
drifjenny_: couldn't you register your nick?02:27
jenny_thats what i thought02:27
jenny_we left that behind02:27
jenny_there were problems that i copied and pasted02:28
drifjenny_: if it was taken /nick newone - even for temporary reason02:28
jenny_i have to be as fast as possible so i can get this done before he has togo to bed02:28
elite101err wine isnt working? what kind of wine doesnt open up .exe :S02:28
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elite101i click on an exe it says open program with?02:28
drifelite101: wine yourexe.exe02:28
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elite101:P02:28
drifjenny: now you took me bit too literally ;)02:28
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elite101what do i open it with there is like 5diff wines02:28
drifsorry, newone that is..02:29
newoneconfused again02:29
newoneno blonde jokes please02:29
drifnewone: that was command to change your nick02:29
newoneso i need to do what now?02:29
runleveltenelite101: you type wine yourexe.exe02:29
AzzcoHelp some apps doesn't work anymore! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34954/02:29
drifnewone: and newone was supposed to be something you choose02:29
newonei have to register to PM to swap info to... ?02:29
drifnewone: yes02:29
drifnewone: is kinda safety measure..02:30
runleveltenyeah, otherwise people abuse it, you see02:30
drifit's02:30
elite101!wine02:30
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:30
runleveltenit's sad, but blame nasty people :(02:30
elite101!flash02:30
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:30
newoneso i type into here:   /nick newone02:30
newone?02:30
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newoneor /nick and then a new name>02:31
drifnewone: you can replace that 'newone' with anything you want..02:31
elite101wine still doesn work im typing in or renaming the exe....... yourexe.exe it still doesn work02:31
drifnewone: /nick you_new_nickname02:31
drif+r02:31
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runleveltenright jenny - I have to go to bed. You will find that you need java to run juno - so if you get some help with that first, you should be good to go soon.02:31
elite101do i type in the name of the exe: yourexe?02:31
Patricks_Girlok now02:31
drifelite101: you don't need to rename your exe...but I'm no clairvoyant..02:31
Patricks_Girli have to download java?02:31
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elite101ohh02:32
drifelite101: the printer, the girl or your advices? :D02:32
elite101what do i need to do02:32
runleveltenI will be around tomorrow evening (Europe time) and will help you if I see you02:32
elite101lol forget about the girl02:32
Patricks_Girlit tells me im not registered yet02:32
Patricks_Girlagain02:32
drifrunlevelten: I can try continuing from here though..it's 3:33am but I'm in no real hurry02:33
goodhabitWho can paste in private for me a part of xorg.conf, what describes mouse? Please.02:33
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elite101i need help with wine xD02:33
runleveltenokeydokey drif. You know what's being done right?02:33
drifrunlevelten: I've been around and not around..you can quickly run me through02:33
Patricks_Girli only wish i could express my gratitude appropriately for not only suffering my ignorance but your amazing patience02:33
runleveltenthat tarball may run fine, but bits may need pulling out and putting in the right places.02:34
elite101how do i get ARC to work with ,rar? or how can i get wine to work with winrar? if u wanna help me pick the easier topic <------please02:34
Patricks_Girlim not sure what a tarbar is02:34
elite101tarball02:34
drifelite101: did you run 'sudo apt-get install unrar' ?02:34
intelikey!rar | elite10102:34
ubotuelite101: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free02:34
elite101no02:34
elite101k i will02:34
Patricks_Girlbrb rr02:34
runleveltenjenny has downloaded it, untarred it and copied the whole contents to juno's usual app directory02:34
drifelite101: if you need advice - please take it as they come ;)02:35
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elite101sorry its just i needed the winrar to work up ther ^02:35
runleveltenno symlinks in bin, the icons aren't copied out yet, she needs to sign in and check what works, java will need to be installed02:35
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demonsporkARRRG, GRUB INSTALLED WITHOUT ASKING ME!!!02:35
elite101:P02:35
intelikey!grub | demonspork02:35
ubotudemonspork: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:35
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runleveltenPatricks_Girl: No problem at all - if I had more time I'd stick around.02:35
intelikeydemonspork that's normal02:36
runleveltenNight all.02:36
elite101sudo apt-get install java-jre6-bin02:36
drifrunlevelten: nights02:36
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demonsporksomeone told me I would have an option somewhere02:36
drifelite101: direct your advices.. to make this seem less confusing, ok?02:36
runleveltenOh drif, the program is run with /opt/juclient/runclient.sh02:36
Strogol#join kubuntu-br02:36
elite101lol02:36
intelikeydemonspork remember whom ?02:36
runleveltenand she's done:02:36
runleveltenwget http://www.edsgenericforum.com/hotlinks/juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz && tar -xvzf juno_6.2.0b5-5.0.0.50.linspire0.3.tar.gz && sudo cp -dpR marlin_build_juno-6.2 /opt/juclient && /opt/juclient/runclient.sh02:36
runleveltennight \o/02:37
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elite101thanks drif, it worked :)02:37
demonsporkI dislike that the default scrollback in xchat is 30002:37
drifdemonspork: change it? :D02:37
demonsporkI changed it02:37
intelikeyyeah.   it's too short.02:37
drifPatricks_Girl: around?02:38
demonsporkbut I already lost who gave me the incorrect information02:38
demonsporkhow do I change the Image displayed in the GRUB menu?02:38
Strogolspeak Portuguese??02:38
drifdemonspork: it was me - but for my defence I can honestly say it hasn't ever installed grub against my will02:38
BluesKaj!pt | Strogol02:38
ubotuStrogol: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:38
Patricks_Girlok back02:39
intelikeydemonspork well i hate it for you.  but it does happen.    and see the infonode on !usplash02:39
elite101that kinda sucks? not portaguese kubunut?02:39
elite101kubuntu*02:39
drifPatricks_Girl: re, runlevel went to get some zzz02:39
elite101lol02:39
demonspork!uspash02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uspash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
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mguezuraga Is there a way to improve font display on lcd screens? (like cleartype on windows)02:39
demonspork!usplash02:39
elite101i ran outta disk space for the .rar file :(02:39
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork02:39
Patricks_Girli wish i could bake y'all cookies for this02:39
AzzcoHelp I get strange errors!02:40
Azzcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34954/02:40
intelikeyPatricks_Girl you can  :)02:40
elite101:P yum02:40
drifPatricks_Girl: you could try /msg NickServ register password (and this time, replace 'password' with your decision;)02:40
intelikey!botsnack02:40
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:40
Patricks_Girlok, i typed into the konsole what he told me to type into it02:40
elite101:P02:40
intelikey!opsnack02:40
ubotuChocolate!  And Peanuts!02:40
Patricks_Girlmy decision?02:40
elite101:) im alergic02:41
elite101JK02:41
zabadappmguezuraga: yes, sort of "cleartype" is available ... just enable it in font prefs window02:41
drifPatricks_Girl: you expect me to start suggesting passwords now? :D02:41
Patricks_Girloh the password i decide on02:41
elite101whats the command to remove program? sudo apt-get remove...02:41
Patricks_Girlderrr sorry lol02:41
drifelite101: yup02:41
elite101really?02:42
intelikeysho' is02:42
drifelite101: apt-get --help02:42
drifelite101: man apt-get02:42
mguezuragazabadapp: thanks02:42
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elite101lol02:42
elite101true02:42
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Patricks_Girlit said no such nick/channel02:42
hitmanWillyok, got pulled out for a few minutes, back now, sorry if i left anyone hanging02:42
Patricks_Girli must have typed something wrong02:43
drifPatricks_Girl: a sec02:43
mguezuragazabadapp: antialiasing?02:43
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zabadappmguezuraga: yes, antialiasing and "use sub-pixel hinting"02:43
drifPatricks_Girl: try it again, this time check the typing02:44
drifPatricks_Girl: /msg nickserv register yourpasswordhere02:44
Patricks_Girlok it worked02:44
Patricks_Girlcool beans bro02:44
Patricks_Girlthanks02:44
Patricks_Girlnow what02:44
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mguezuragazabadapp: ok, thanks again02:44
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hayamixd02:45
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hayamianyone knows about znes?02:46
hayamizsnes? xD02:46
intelikey!info zsnes02:46
ardchoille!info znes02:46
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)02:46
ubotuPackage znes does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:46
Patricks_Girlthank you to everyone who has been helping me!02:46
BluesKajhayami, xine ...maybe ?02:47
hayamioo that explains why the zsnes is not stable on feisty02:49
hayamiit falls a lot and break the system O.o02:49
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intelikeyhayami no.02:50
msuiterIs there an options menu that sets up Kubuntu to look similar to a Mac?02:50
hayamino?02:51
hayamithen man why my laptop crashes when i start it?02:51
houmalaI dont know what its called but when i setup desktop I selected a choice that makes me have the cursor on the window to be able to work in it. How do I change it so the cursor does not have to be in the windows??02:51
intelikeyhayami no. that's not what you thought.   the package "znes" does not exist.   both were searched for.02:51
hayamisometimes, and my lap is not powerfull but i don't complain02:51
hayamicheck friend02:52
msuiterhoumala, what window manager are you using?02:52
zabadapphoumala: you got "focus follow mouse" ?02:52
hayamihttp://www.zsnes.com/02:52
houmalakde02:52
hayamiit's an emulator02:52
intelikeyhayami why it crashes, i don't know.  but the bot answer is not why.02:52
hayamiit's made for linux too friend02:52
intelikeyyou are not reading what i'm writing.02:53
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houmalahow do I get rid of "focus follow mouse" ??02:53
intelikey<intelikey> !info zsnes02:53
intelikey<ardchoille> !info znes02:53
zabadapphoumala: system settings --> window behavior --> (drop down) click to focus02:53
hayamii used to have it02:53
hayamion mylap02:53
hayamiand it runs the game02:54
houmalathanks02:54
hayamibut in certain time it crashes02:54
zabadapphoumala: ...but focus follow mouse is superior, try it for a while and you might like it :-)02:54
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ardchoilleintelikey: lol02:54
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msuiteron Ubuntu I ran "sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop" and the first time I loaded the KDE desktop it presented me with three choices for the way that my desktop would look, KDE Default, Mac style, and some other option.  I did not get that menu this time, is there anywhere to select those options?02:55
intelikey"sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop" <<<< will fail.02:56
msuiter?02:56
msuiterfail at what?02:56
intelikeysyntax error.02:56
msuitersorry02:56
msuiterI forgot to type the "install" into that line02:56
BluesKajthe word is .. install02:56
intelikeyyep02:56
msuiteranyway, is that menu available?02:56
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ardchoillemsuiter: kcontrol > Desktop > Behavior ?02:57
intelikeymsuiter ok back to the question.   kde-first-time  or some such   firsttimewizard    i don't know the name...02:57
intelikeybut you can run it,  if you can find it...02:58
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msuiterthank you for telling me it exists, and wasn't just my imagination or me getting different distros mixed up02:58
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intelikeyfind /usr/ -iname *first* 2>/dev/null03:00
msuiterI tried "locate *first* and it gave me nothing but .xml, .m3u, .png, .m3u and .svgz files03:01
ardchoillemsuiter: find is much more versatile03:01
msuiterlocate served my purposes fine here03:02
intelikeymsuiter and it may be an xml file   idk.03:02
intelikeynot having kde installed here i can't look for it for you.   but as you were informed, kcontrol can achieve the same end.03:03
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zabadappmsuiter: don't know if it works on kubuntu but ... http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php03:03
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intelikeyi do kinda like the first time wizard my self.03:03
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ardchoilleBaghira does indeed work on kubuntu and it's in the repos03:05
hitmanWillyhey anyone wanna do me a favor and /join #linux-noobhelp, just set up the chan and want to make sure all my admin options are set right03:05
msuiterintelikey, do you think you could find it on your machine?03:05
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intelikeymsuiter not without installing kde03:06
msuiterah03:06
msuiterwhat system are you on?03:06
intelikeyintelikey03:06
msuiter...03:06
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vbgunzanyone aware of how Konquerors web profile breaks the "view mode (tree)" if you view in anything other than "icon mode"?03:08
vbgunzis this addresses, fixed, on the todo?03:08
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Xera^Is the 8800 GTX PCI-E working well in Kubuntu yet? :)03:09
intelikeyXera^ i have no idea,  google.com/linux might be a better place to ask that Q03:10
Xera^ok03:10
ardchoilleXera^:  You might also look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:10
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intelikeyassuming it's up do date,  yes.03:11
ardchoilleTrue03:11
dec_can someone help me understand how to set key bindings for compizconfig settings manager03:11
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vbgunzanyone aware of how Konquerors web profile breaks the "view mode (tree)" if you view in anything other than "icon mode"?03:12
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vbgunzHOLY CRAP03:14
vbgunzheh03:14
vbgunzI never thought I get it fixed, found a webpage that got it fixed in a jump03:15
vbgunzanyone know how I can ALWAYS get the google toolbar to show up, no matter the profile? web browsing, file management?03:15
dec_just installed compiz-fusion and cannot get it to rotate in the cube anyone know how or what I am doing wrong03:16
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ardchoilledec_: You might ask in #ubuntu-effects03:17
dec_always wondered how do I get to #ubuntu-effects03:17
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ardchoilledec_: type "/join #ubuntu-effects" in your irc client03:18
BluesKaj!google | vbgunz03:18
ubotuvbgunz: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux03:18
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dec_I can type that in konversation03:18
vbgunzBluesKaj: I am over google, what you find, I didnt find?03:18
BluesKajthe linux search helps alot03:19
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ardchoilledec_: konversation? Just click on the link --> #ubuntu-effects03:19
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vbgunzBluesKaj: the google toolbar is for the web. it comes with Konqueror BUT only shows up when using the webbrowsing profile. it doesn't show up when using the file browser. I am searching but cannot find the answer :/03:20
BluesKajsorry i can't answer your question , but google-linux might help you find the answer03:20
vbgunzheh03:20
nosrednaekimvbgunz: eh... that is so anoying.. my dad spent like 30 minutes trying to get that working.03:21
vbgunznosrednaekim: your dad get it working?03:21
vbgunzput your dad on the line :)03:22
nosrednaekimnope.. thats the sad part03:22
nosrednaekimthe happy part is I did recently see the option.03:22
nosrednaekimbut I can't remeber what/where it was03:22
vbgunzheh, I would really like it to show up no matter what. this way, I need to search something it can be right there03:23
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nosrednaekimvbgunz: i'm pretty sure it was in the main settings menu for konqueror.03:24
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vbgunzi'll check once more03:25
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nosrednaekimok..good luck.03:26
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BluesKajyes , that's acomplaint I have about konq ...the options are spread around in so many different areas and the subtitles don't seem to make any sense to me03:28
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BluesKajvbgunz,  perhaps this can help .. ' mv ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc.old ' ...the command reverts konq back to it's original setting ...I used it and I have the google search bar in "File management" mode.03:32
vbgunzBluesKaj: wow03:33
BluesKajI can't take credit ...one of the heavy hitters here gave me the command :)03:33
vbgunzI would hate to do that. I tool up what nosred... said and found something I am willing to work with... basically, I'll just need to type "gg:search phrase" in the location bar, and google handles it03:33
BluesKajwell, that's pretty cool too , vbgunz :)03:34
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vbgunznow I am looking to remove the toolbar as it has another shortcoming compared to the location bar... I basically cannot hold down ALT when submitting a query through the google toolbar AND have the window open in a new tab, whereas in the location I can ;)03:35
vbgunzI am looking to disable it03:35
vbgunzheh, I just completely removed the search from itself03:37
vbgunzthat seemed to work just fine03:37
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BluesKajvbgunz, does flash run ok on your konq ?03:38
vbgunzyeah, no problem03:38
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BluesKajhmmm, strange that flashplugi-nonfree doesn't work on mine03:39
vbgunzone of my biggest issues in switching was, in web mode, then switching to file mode in konqueror, mangled my icons to show up in icon mode instead of tree mode. I found a fix for it though, hidden away03:39
MarcChow do I troubleshoot a DVD not being mounted when I put it in the drive?03:39
Biovoreflash works fine in konqueror here..03:39
CPrompt^MarcC : what happens when you put a CD in the drive?03:40
BluesKajcould you guys , check the plugins in konq to see which one it's using ?03:40
vbgunzI just wish I could get live bookmarks the way firefox handles them03:40
MarcCCPrompt^: whirring sound from the drive, then nothing...double-clicking the cdrom and cdrom0 folders in /media doesn't show anything either.03:40
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CPrompt^MarcC : I have one of those.  It happens in Windows too though,  I think the drive is going dead.03:41
vbgunzlibflashplayer.so found in my firefox folder03:41
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MarcCCPrompt^: uh...it's brand new...the whirring noise is the normal disk spinup03:41
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CPrompt^MarcC : ah.  so CD's and DVD's both just sit there.  hmmm...03:42
ardchoilleMarcC: kcontrol > Peripherals > Storage Media  ?03:42
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CPrompt^what about fstab?  does it show anything?03:43
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MarcCCPrompt^: I looked in KControl and it's mounting at /dev/scd0 ... I navigated there, right-clicked and opened with VLC and the disk plays fine... :-/ how do I get it to show me the "what to do now" dialog when it finds the disc? It used to do that.03:44
intelikeyMarcC nope.  not mounting at /dev/    that's the device node not the mountpoint03:45
CPrompt^ah!  I think that you are going to have to mount the drive somewhere.  something like /dev/scd0 /media/dvd03:45
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MarcCseems like it used to automount and put an icon on the desktop...how do I re-enable? :)03:46
CPrompt^MarcC : you should be able to open fstab and find the part about the dvd and change it03:46
MarcCdevice node...good to know, seems to work in a pinch :D03:46
mrksbrdhow do i get my USB Drive from Root ownership to User Ownership??????????03:46
CPrompt^MarcC : something like :03:46
CPrompt^/dev/scd0     /media/dvdrecorder   subfs      auto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 003:46
MarcCCPrompt^:03:47
MarcC/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 003:47
MarcCUUID=06cd7835-43d0-4f33-9d47-5d0d38bbf62a /boot ext3 nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 003:47
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CPrompt^hmmm......looks like the dvd is being mounted at /media/cdrom0.  but when you go to that, there is nothing there?03:48
intelikeymountpoint == /media/dvdrecorder      next line mountpoint == /media/cdrom0    last line ignored, it's system startup dir03:48
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MarcCCPrompt^: affirmative, although this is an encrypted DVD...but it's playing OK03:49
MarcCintelikey: was that for me? I don't want to miss something important03:49
CPrompt^MarcC : you may need libdvdcss2.  I think that's what it's called03:49
MarcCCPrompt^: yeah, that's how I'm playing the DVD now, I think03:49
intelikeyMarcC just information that you can use in your efforts.03:49
CPrompt^oh right...03:50
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MarcCintelikey: thanks :) don't really understand the info though03:50
MarcCI love Kaffeine's Volnorm effect...wish I had that in VLC03:51
CPrompt^MarcC  : wonder if you can try to mount it somewhere different?  /media/dvd ?03:51
intelikeyMarcC the fstab syntax   first field == device    second field == mountpoint    third field == fs type    fourth field == mount options03:51
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MarcCintelikey: so "scd0" tells you "dvd recorder?"03:52
intelikeytells us the device  yes.03:52
MarcCdang, need to learn that code :)03:52
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intelikeyand   /media/cdrom0   tells us where to look for the mounted fs that is on the device03:53
MarcCI like that it let me use the node as a file though...that's pretty sick03:53
intelikeysick ?03:53
MarcCok, I'm going to try another disc later, see if the DVD encryption has something to do with the no-files-showing problem.03:53
CPrompt^intelikey : groovy...cool...good stuff ;)03:53
kdepepohi, I messed up my system by trying to install unstable (please forgive). Is it save to re-install 7.04 from cd without losing /home data?03:53
CPrompt^kdepepo : nope :)03:54
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intelikeykdepepo sure.03:54
CPrompt^really?03:54
MarcCI'm sure you could backup your /home and just copy it over the new one after a fresh install?03:54
MarcCI've heard people saying they did that03:54
intelikeykdepepo yeah  as long as home is seperate form /   it's fine.03:54
kdepepoits not separate :(03:55
CPrompt^oh...well...we didn't say anything about backing up LOL03:55
intelikeykdepepo then backup  first.03:55
intelikeykdepepo i could reinstall on that system   i'm not sure you can...    (without data loss i mean)03:56
MarcChow do I add an "open in root konqueror" item to my service menus?03:56
kdepepouh oh... okey... I am new to kubu, on suse I know there is an option to re-use existing home03:57
intelikeykdepepo no such options here   and the process would involve using the console in the middle of the install process to prepair the root fs without formating it...   if you think you are up to that we'll give it a shot  but i would advise making backups first if you possably can.03:58
kdepepoif you are patient enough to explain I will try anything03:59
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kdepepotyping this from a sep. pc04:00
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kdepepothe other is just booting04:00
intelikeylets first try a compatability test on that assumption,  then i'll know how patient i am.      switch to a console and tell me what is mounted on /var/lock     :)04:00
kdepeposorry, its still booting from cd04:01
kdepeposhall I abort?04:01
intelikeyno don't abort04:01
kdepepookey boot finished, x11 on vt7, console on vt104:02
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intelikeykdepepo ok can you mount your installed system ?04:04
kdepepowait04:04
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kdepepoto which directory? /mnt/ ?04:05
intelikeycd /mnt04:05
intelikeyoh which not shitch  sorry04:05
intelikeyyeah mnt is fine04:05
intelikey:)04:05
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kdepeposurgery on a live patient, okey sdb3 mounted rw on /mnt04:06
intelikeycd /mnt04:07
intelikeyrm -r `ls | grep -v home`    <<<  that command is going to delete everything not in your home/ dir.04:08
kdepepohm04:08
intelikeyif that's a problem.  bail out now04:09
kdepepowill have to check other dir's first04:09
intelikeyk04:09
intelikeyanything that need preserver can be copied or moved to home/saved/     like configs in /etc or what not04:10
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intelikeyin my case  scripts and data in usr/local/bin04:11
kdepepowell I hope i can remove etc, because config was messed up after upgrade04:11
kdepepointernet didnt work...04:12
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kdepeposomething is wired... recursive dir doesnt work04:13
intelikeyls04:13
intelikeythat's lower case LS04:13
intelikeyls -r04:13
intelikeyls -R04:13
intelikeyoops04:13
kdepepotried both04:13
kdepepoit just doesnt recurse04:14
intelikeymaybe it's a busybox ls being on the live CD04:14
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intelikeywith busybox apps you never know what switches will/wont work.04:15
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intelikeyand then there are net splits...04:15
ardchoillekdepepo , intelikey  try the "tree" app :)04:15
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intelikeyon the live CD ?04:15
kdepeponot installed :)04:15
ardchoilleOh, I doubt it's on the livecd04:16
intelikey^04:16
kdepepoIm stupid.... i can just go to x11 and use konqui:)04:16
joseph1110216hey u guys. if i install windows xp on an external hard drive and plug the external hard drive into a  computer running linux, will the computer give me a dual boot option?04:16
intelikeykdepepo find should be there     find ./ -type f04:16
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ardchoillejoseph1110216: Not until you set up /boot/grub/menu.lst to do that04:17
joseph1110216wat do u mean?04:17
intelikeyjoseph1110216 no.  just plugging a drive in doesn't affect grub04:17
kdepepoI think its best to rename "home" ?04:17
ardchoille!grub04:18
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:18
intelikeykdepepo if you want.  i know of no reason for it  but safety first.04:18
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intelikeykdepepo you'll still want to nuke everything except "what ever name you give" home04:19
kdepepoyeah im just checking tmp etc first....04:19
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intelikeykdepepo if you had http setup (any web server)  you will probably want to save the html files from /var/www   also04:21
kdepepoactually, it doesnt recurse becuse i need to sudo ls :)04:21
joseph1110216if grub can recognize by default that my comp has 2 Os  in it and gives me a dual boot option, then can it also recognize a third Os, one which is on an external hard drive?04:21
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kdepepointelikey, okey04:21
Biovorejoseph1110216: probably want to just boot of the external HD04:21
intelikeyjoseph1110216 yes04:21
joseph1110216oh ok how do i get it to boot off external, and u who said yes, are u sure?04:21
ardchoillejoseph1110216: The boot options are dictated by your menu.lst file.. if the third OS isn't in the menu, then it won't be a boot option.04:22
ardchoille!grub | joseph111021604:22
ubotujoseph1110216: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:22
joseph1110216hey intelikey04:22
intelikeyjoseph1110216 yes grub looks for bootable partitions and trys to set them up automaticlly    as many as it finds.04:22
joseph1110216u sure?04:22
ardchoillejoseph1110216: You can't just plug in a 3rd OS and expect to be able to boot from it without altering grub04:23
joseph1110216so it will even find the one on my external hd04:23
intelikeyit doesn't always succeed but it does try04:23
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joseph1110216true but wont grub check for it anyway?04:23
kdepepointelikey, what about grub config? something to save here?04:23
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joseph1110216its job is to look for hd's04:23
intelikeykdepepo grub will be reinstalled   but you can copy /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst  if you like.04:24
kdepepointelikey, okey04:24
intelikeyjoseph1110216 grub "only" looks for fs's at install  or reinstall   iirc04:24
joseph1110216ok04:25
intelikeyso if you are having issues understanding that   then everything above that is moot04:25
kdepepointelikey, well... root is empty except "home-bak"   *tears*04:25
intelikeykdepepo ok exit it.  and umount /mnt04:26
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intelikeykdepepo when umounted...    start the installer  (ubiquity)   and proceed as normal until the partitioning section.04:27
kdepepookey wait04:27
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kdepepogee suse people arent that patient, thank you so far!04:29
intelikeyubuntu people aren't either...04:29
intelikey:)04:29
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kdepepoi tried repairing manually but having only suse experience I only made it worse ...04:31
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intelikeyubuntu on the live CD  what can we do for you ???04:32
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kdepepointelikey, okey... i am at partition selection... selected "manual"04:35
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intelikeygood   choose your partition but don't change anything   only select it and move on  to the "formating section"04:35
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intelikeythere you will have the option to deselect the format check box on the / partition    you can let it format swap (assuming you have swap)04:37
kdepepoactually looks quite simple... it has a "format?" option, which i did -not- selet04:37
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sFEARshello04:37
intelikeylook closele   and make sure it will NOT format anything except swap04:37
intelikeyclosely04:37
intelikeyclosly  ?04:38
intelikey</sp!>04:38
kdepepowait a sec04:38
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intelikeyoh i wrote one,  im just too lazy to use it...04:38
ardchoillehahahaha04:39
intelikey#Closely /Closely/, adv. 1. In a close manner. 2. Secretly; privately. [Obs.] 04:39
intelikeyThat nought she did but wayle, and often steepe Her dainty couch with tears04:39
intelikeywhich closely she did weepe. Spenser.04:39
intelikeyi wrote a script to do that tooo04:39
intelikeyi need to disable it's output to the channel though.04:40
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sFEARsanyone think they can help a newbie that thinks he knows what he's doing?04:41
intelikeysFEARs not me.04:41
intelikeyi stay as far from that type as possable04:42
kdepepointelikey, it doesnt allow me to format swap... hope its okey.04:42
ardchoillesFEARs: Quite hard to help someone who thinks they already know04:42
intelikeykdepepo ok  go for it and see04:42
sFEARscan't make it too easy on you04:42
ardchoillelol04:42
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sFEARsall i know is that it's not doing what i want it to04:43
sFEARsand all i keep hearing about this linux thing is you can get it to do whatever you want it to04:43
ardchoillesFEARs: Please specify. Is this software? Hardware? Web browser? Desktop env?04:44
sFEARs3 problems04:44
sFEARswhen i boot up i get an error. Could not initialize HAL!04:45
sFEARswhich i've figured out means that i can't see what's on my usb flash drive04:45
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ardchoille!hald04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
sFEARswhich could also explain why i'm having some recording issues with a usb hardware mixer04:45
sFEARswhich is my main problem i want to get fixed04:45
intelikeykdepepo status ?04:46
sFEARsi've installed jack & the alsa drivers04:46
sFEARscan hear output thru the usb but can't seem to get it to record04:46
sFEARsand since the last two reboots when i start amarok it says it couldn't find audio drivers04:46
kdepepointelikey, i was thinking to just ditch suse and install kubuntu into the suse partition04:47
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intelikeykdepepo  is the installer failing ?04:47
sFEARsis hald hal?04:47
kdepepointelikey, sorry I didnt start yet ...04:47
intelikeyhald==hal daemon04:47
intelikeykdepepo well kick it off and lets see how well you've done.04:48
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intelikey"you never know until you cry"04:48
intelikeyerrr    try04:48
intelikey:)04:48
ardchoillelol04:49
kdepepointelikey, it says "no root file system specified"04:49
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intelikeykdepepo i told you to select that at the "formating stage"    you have to tell it where but don't let it format.04:50
kdepepoah okey04:50
kdepepogot it04:50
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kdepepothe installation summary says it will format swap anyway... okey04:52
intelikeyok04:53
intelikeylet it format swap  but nothing else     right ?04:53
kdepepoyep04:53
droachanyone ever heard of those kbyte zipits04:53
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kdepeposorry im slow :)04:54
intelikeyit's ok.   i rode the short bus to school04:54
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intelikeyas if my spelling didn't already say that....04:56
kdepepoi think i was overreacting and in panic...04:56
intelikeyso where are we now kdepepo04:57
intelikey?04:57
kdepepo57% :)04:57
intelikeyok the hand holding is over.   congrats.04:58
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kdepepothank, owe you a beer04:58
sFEARsis it possible to restart drivers?04:58
sFEARsmaster reset or something?04:58
intelikeysFEARs modprobe -r blah && modprobe blah04:59
sFEARswtf?04:59
intelikeyman modprobe04:59
sFEARsi'm surprised i know how to get to a console window05:00
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intelikeyoh man...  i just found some extreemly ugly code,    and about as malicious as a raddle snake05:00
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sFEARsit was proally in my boot sector05:00
sFEARsif i wasn't so paranoid i wouldn't think that something like that could be giving me all these problems05:01
sFEARshowever, i am05:01
intelikeydo not test this code,  it is deadly to a system.     #echo "$(sudo perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=] =>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/"-;;s;;$_;see')"05:01
sFEARswhat? type that in console?05:01
intelikeybelieve it or not that will   sudo rm -r /05:01
Arwenintelikey, weird05:02
intelikeyArwen yeah and no joke05:02
sFEARsi'm guessing that's delete root?05:02
ArwenI've seen it before, stupid perl :-\05:02
ArwensFEARs, yes05:02
intelikeysFEARs yep and all that's in it05:02
sFEARsmight have to try that before i throw the laptop out the window05:02
kdepepolooks like a story :)05:02
sFEARsknow a good place to get some tech support?05:03
sFEARsi try to look things up on google.. it tells me to edit some file05:03
intelikeysFEARs for the questions you have asked eariler ?05:03
sFEARsbut it doesn't tell me how to edit the file05:03
sFEARswhy amarok can't find audio drivers for start05:04
sFEARsand how to get my usb flash drive to automatically show up on the desktop05:04
intelikeysFEARs to edit any system file     kdesu kate /path/to/file.name05:04
intelikeysFEARs for non-system (local user's home dir)  leave the  kdesu  off05:05
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sFEARswhat's the shortcut combo for a run box?05:05
intelikeyyou can use the    alt+f205:05
sFEARsctrl+alt+f1.. is the screen that brings up a terminal window as opposed to a console window05:07
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intelikeybackwards05:08
sFEARsok05:08
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intelikeyctrl+alt+f1 drops you to tty1  (console)05:08
intelikeykonsole is a terminal emulator for kde    not to be confused with   console05:09
sFEARsok05:09
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sFEARsso if theres a process running in a console window.. how do you stop it05:10
sFEARsto get back to a command prompt05:10
intelikey^c05:10
intelikeyctrl+C05:10
intelikey^c05:10
sFEARsok05:10
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sFEARscommand prompt? is that correct?05:10
intelikeymore or less.   we let that slide most of the time.05:11
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intelikeyit's actually a shell prompt05:11
sFEARscool05:11
arun!md5sum05:11
ubotuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more05:11
sFEARsctrl+c didn't work05:11
sFEARsbitchx is trying to connect to a server05:11
sFEARsit's not working05:11
intelikeysFEARs /quit05:11
intelikeyin the bx app05:11
sFEARscool.. worked05:12
arunhey intelikey.. i'm actually going to try out ubuntu.. first time i'm using gnome :) i installed gnome over kubuntu, and i liked it quite a bit.05:12
intelikeyand no bx ignores ^c   you are correct about that05:12
intelikeyarun cool05:12
arunbtw, how do i find out what the MD5 sum is for a particular version of (k)ubuntu05:12
intelikeyon the download page05:12
intelikeythe md5'r's are there too05:13
arunaaah05:13
arungot it05:13
intelikeyiirc there is even a howto on using the md5'r05:14
kdepepointelikey, rebooting ... *drumroll*05:14
arunyeah i got that05:14
arunit's good05:14
aruntime to back stuff up :)05:14
intelikeykdepepo ******************************* **05:14
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arunintelikey: what's your favourite DE05:15
sFEARsmv ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc ~/.Trash05:15
intelikeyblackbox   i guess    i'm a minimalest but not to an extreem05:16
sFEARsi'm assuming ~/ is short for something05:16
joseph1110216anyone here knw how to increase the diskspace dedicated to my virtual os in vmware?05:16
sFEARsthat's pointing to where my hidden kde folder is?05:16
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intelikeysFEARs yes your home dir05:16
intelikeysFEARs ~ and $HOME   always expand to the users home dir    normally   /home/sfears      or the like05:17
roverclyde1 + 2 = 405:17
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sFEARsok05:17
intelikeyroverclyde hmmm    did i miss something ?05:17
roverclydeyou didn't get the memo?05:18
intelikeyguess not.05:18
roverclydeit's the new math05:18
intelikeyoh the offtopic one ?   yeah i got that one  :)05:18
roverclydek + ubuntu = awesomeness!!!05:20
intelikey[ $((1+2)) = 4 ]  && echo `rm -r ~`05:20
intelikey:)05:20
arunanyone here used bluefish?05:20
intelikeyarun i started it one time.  long time ago,  so basicly   ! i05:20
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kdepepointelikey, looks like my home-bak is still there :) thanks!05:21
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BluesKajnite all, sacktime for me05:21
arunintelikey: how is it05:21
intelikeykdepepo of course it is...   :)    and your'e welcome...05:21
dewittthe data base is lockout in adept, can't excute updates or change anything05:21
intelikeyarun was lacking,  back then,  that was in 2002 i think.05:22
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ubotudewitt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:22
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kdepepo:)05:23
intelikey:)05:23
ArwenUbuntu music?05:23
kdepepoafrican music05:23
intelikey!info ubuntu-sounds05:24
ubotuubuntu-sounds: Ubuntu's GNOME audio theme. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6 (feisty), package size 2265 kB, installed size 3308 kB05:24
arunwill stuff like koffice and kontact work well in gnome?05:24
intelikey!info kubuntu-sounds05:24
ubotuPackage kubuntu-sounds does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:24
intelikeyooops05:24
kdepepothe only thing i forgot to backup is the repo-list...05:24
intelikey!repos05:24
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:24
intelikeykdepepo check that out   ^05:24
sFEARsis there an easy way to reset program to default05:25
sFEARsor do you just have to reinstall them05:25
kdepepoyeah, but added some unusual ones.... compiz git etc, have to readd them all05:25
intelikeysFEARs depends on the app05:25
sFEARsamarok05:25
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NickPrestasFEARs, reset amarok to default? What do you mean?05:26
intelikeysFEARs something like    rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok05:26
intelikeymake sure it's not running first05:27
dewittbetwen the commands is that dashes and a space05:27
sFEARsi'm not sure what i mean05:27
sFEARsbut i don't think i changed anything.. and all of a sudden it says drivers unavail or something05:27
intelikeydewitt you like     rm -r $HOME/.kde/share/apps/amarok         better ?05:27
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sFEARsdelete the whole folder & download again?05:28
intelikeydewitt oh      sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a05:29
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intelikeysFEARs no dl.05:29
sFEARsdpkg..05:29
sFEARsno dl05:29
sFEARsisn't that what rm05:29
sFEARsremove?05:29
sFEARshaha05:29
intelikeythe app is not there,  only your personal configs for the app05:30
sFEARsohh05:30
sFEARsdpkg.. i've used that before05:30
sFEARsi'll try it05:30
sFEARswhen i removed the amarokrc file & tried to open amarok again it didn't do anything05:30
intelikeysFEARs and use the tab key in case i typoed.05:31
intelikey!tab05:31
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:31
sFEARsat least i dind't get an error though05:31
sFEARsso which one should i try first05:31
sFEARsrm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok?05:31
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intelikeyyeah05:31
kdepeposFEARs, are you sure you quit amarok? it usually stays at the task bar panel05:32
sFEARsgood call05:32
ItsaBoyhello all, are there any emulators that can install exe files?05:32
NickPresta!wine | ItsaBoy05:33
ubotuItsaBoy: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:33
ItsaBoyok sweet thank you :)05:33
NickPrestaalthough Wine Is Not an Emulator ;)05:33
intelikeywine is wine is not an emulator05:33
ArwenOn a Pentium 4 HT system, I've got a process using up 68% CPU. Which considering both CPU 0 and 1 are really the same, is... >100%? Is this a bug in the monitoring software?05:33
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intelikeyArwen probably,   or an undocumented feature  :)05:35
roverclyde1+3=605:35
Arwenintelikey, or the software is really efficient ;)05:35
intelikeyor that05:35
sFEARsalright.. did that, same problem.. but only when i try to select alsa as the output plugin05:35
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sFEARsmabey i need to do something with alsa?05:35
intelikey[ $((1+3)) = 6 ]  && echo `rm -r ~`05:35
ArwenNew and improved Windows Beachhouse: So efficient, it can use more resources than you have!05:36
intelikey!sound | sFEARs maybe a look on the "trubble shooting" page05:37
ubotusFEARs maybe a look on the "trubble shooting" page: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:37
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sFEARsubuntu- system/prefs/sounds?05:38
sFEARsi have no enable sound system in there05:38
sFEARsenable software sound mixing05:39
sFEARsis checked05:39
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sFEARssorry this is the room i got dropped into05:40
sFEARswasn't quite paying attention to that05:40
sFEARsi could swith over05:40
sFEARsswitch*05:40
sFEARsi get the same error05:40
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sFEARsdpkg -clean alsa drivers?05:43
sFEARs<~~~ coder05:43
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josiah!mp305:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:45
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roverclydeubuntu + 1 = hot fun in the summertime05:46
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ubuntu_im using the  kubuntu live cd and i need hlp installing05:51
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kdepepoat which stage?05:53
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dewittgot adept back thanks05:55
ubuntu_in prepare partitions when i choose my partition it says file system doesnt have expected sizes for windows 2 like it. cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 20017 (39957 expected); size of fats is 79 sectors (157 expected)05:55
ubuntu_plz hlp05:56
kdepepo_ do you want to replace windows or install side-by-side05:56
ubuntu_install side by side05:57
ubuntu_which is y i choose manuel 2 choose the partition that i made05:57
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kdepepoif you made a separate partitition for kubuntu format it using ext3 filesystem05:58
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ubuntu_nvm i did it05:59
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Bearcati;m loosing my mind folks, and i could use some help.06:01
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klobsterdang, you beat me to it06:01
intelikey:)06:02
Bearcati'm trying to get a scanner working on a friends computer that works on my laptop. I have entered the product/vendor in a config file in /etc/sane.d/, copied over udev files all sorts of stuff.06:02
roverclydewhat do you need help with bearcat?06:02
Bearcatthanks06:02
Bearcati told them "you'll like kubuntu, stay away from Vista." this is making us all look bad! For the sake of Linux itself you must help me get this working!!!06:03
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Bearcat<.<  >.>06:03
level1Hi, why is it that kubuntu package manager breaks apt whenever you try to install something without the dependencies?  Shouldn't it just give up before it breaks anything?06:04
level1you have to run apt-get -f install to correct it06:04
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Bearcat*gurgle gurgle...*06:04
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intelikeyBearcat what version and scanner ?06:04
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Bearcathey intelikey, i only have 8 lives left..06:05
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Bearcatintelikey: it's a HP C3180 all-in-one06:05
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Cannolihey all06:05
intelikeyok and which version of ubuntu ?06:05
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Bearcatintelikey: uh.. the latest one..uh..7.06?06:06
intelikey7.0406:06
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intelikeyhmmm let me look06:06
Bearcatintelikey: if i apper the idiot, it's cause i'm a sourcemage user where things are different and less automatic.06:07
intelikeyBearcat have the foomatic-db-gimp-print & foomatic-db-gutenprint packages been upgraded on that system ?06:08
Bearcatintelikey: this computer began it's life as a 6.04.  I note that in my /etc/sane.d there is a hotplug dir and there is not one on my kubuntu laptop. I have moved that dir just incase it;s causing confusion. (hotplug is depreciated i believe)06:08
Bearcatintelikey: i donno06:09
Bearcatintelikey: let me check06:09
intelikeyoh yuch   6.6 has a bug in the security update of the foomatic database   that will probably be the issue.06:09
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Bearcatintelikey: oh!06:10
intelikeyyou might    apt-get remove -P foomatic*  && apt-get install cupsys       "might" fix it...06:11
intelikeybackup the configs first06:11
intelikeyand yes i know that will take several things with it....     sorry i can't do you better.06:12
Bearcatfootmatic-db-gimp-print is not installed and foomaticdb-glutenprint is at 5.0.0.9906:12
Bearcat(gimp is not installed)06:12
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intelikeyyeah but the database for the driver is borked      check the bugs   on launchpad06:13
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intelikeyfor the foomatic bug06:13
intelikeyit was in breezy and they fixed it, then dapper released and first security update to the driver database they reintroduced the same old bug06:14
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Bearcatha06:14
intelikeyyeah get this.   it hasn't been fixed sense...   and that's the  LTS release06:15
Bearcatugh06:16
intelikeythe bug is not in the fiesty release  so that's why yours works and his/her's doesn't06:16
Bearcatintelikey: i entered that command and it doesn't like the -P06:16
intelikey--purge  ?06:16
BearcatEneloop: Command line option 'P' [from -P]  is not known.06:16
Bearcateneloop?06:17
intelikey-p  maybe  ???     it's one of those.06:17
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Bearcatsame result06:17
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intelikeyapt-get --purge remove <packagename>06:18
intelikeypropper syntax   ^06:18
intelikeyit does work i use it in a script06:18
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Bearcatapt-get --purge remove  foomatic*  && apt-get install cupsys     tells me it can't find the package foomatic06:20
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Bearcatis it ignoring the *  ?06:21
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rekorderdo we know what gconf-editor is?06:22
yintelike!info foomatic-db-gutenprint06:22
ubotufoomatic-db-gutenprint: OpenPrinting printer support - database for Gutenprint printer drivers. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.0.99.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 44680 kB06:22
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sFEARsi look something up... and it tells me a million times to open gconf-editor and check some boxes06:23
sFEARsit would be nice to know how to open gconf06:23
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Bearcatintelikey: is it sufficient to select all foomatic* in the adept manager, right click and choose "purge"?06:24
melvinhow can I install & use the nvidia drivers?06:25
Bearcatintelikey: and in case it matters, the printer portin works fine, the scanner does not.06:25
sFEARshow can i tell which version of kubuntu i'm using?06:25
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sFEARsand i used to think i knew how to use a computer06:27
Biovorelsb_version -cs  I think will give you the version..06:27
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sFEARsdidn't work06:28
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kdepepolsb_release -r06:28
sFEARsthanks06:29
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melvin!nvidia|melvin06:30
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dknighthi people06:45
dknightneed help06:45
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aruni am re-partitioning my hard drive. i want to remove a few partitions, should i do it manually or through the partition utility in the ubuntu installation process?06:48
Bearcatthanks  folks, I'll hammer at this sommore tomorrow06:49
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dknighti've installed kubuntu but during installation it didn't ask the root password and now i "lost" it06:49
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dknightso i cannot install programs and drivers06:49
dknightwhat i have to do?06:49
arundknight: do you have your user password?06:51
arunthe one you log in with?06:51
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dknighti log with my standard user06:52
dknightnot as root06:52
dknightbut i need root passw06:52
arunyes06:53
dknight:(06:53
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arunthat should work06:53
dknightis there a default root password?06:53
dknighti have my user password06:53
dknightbut this one doesn't work for accessing as root06:54
dknightor in the console the command "su -"06:54
dknightit says "authentication failed"06:54
Cannoli!media06:55
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:55
dknightif i type my main user pw06:55
Cannolidang06:55
Cannoliwhts a good music player?06:55
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Cannolior all around playuer?06:55
Cannolilike winamp for linux?06:55
dknightmplayer is the best06:55
Cannolikk06:55
dknightbut vlc and kaffeine are also good ^^06:55
Cannoliarent those all movie?06:55
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zambouliehow do you execute .bin files?06:56
blackchaosIm trying 2 connect 2 a server via konversation and i get this06:57
blackchaosYou look like a bot. Be sure to fill in your nick/ident/realname properly06:57
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blackchaoswat does this mean06:57
zambouliei cd'd into the dir06:57
zamboulieand now i wanna run a .bin file06:57
zamboulieive done it before but now i forget06:57
blackchaoscan sum 1 plz hlp06:58
Cannoli~mp306:59
Cannoli!mp306:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:59
zamboulienobody??06:59
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melvinzamboulie: you have to give it permission to run: chmod +x filename.bin07:00
melvinzamboulie: then you execute it: ./filename.bin07:00
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ronald__with linux clients and linux servers running sshd, how can i get any given client's devices mapped on any given server?07:01
ronald__preferably without any GUIs07:01
zamboulieaaah07:01
zamboulieforgot the ./07:01
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arunCannoli: Amarok07:05
arundknight: your user password should work to install programs, etc if you're the only user07:06
Cannoliive tried07:06
Cannoliit keeps freezing07:06
Cannoli:(07:06
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arun!lamp07:09
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)07:09
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blackchaoscan sum 1 hlp me plz07:16
blackchaosplz07:17
ronald__what's the problem?07:17
blackchaosoh ok07:19
blackchaosim trying 2 connect 2 a server but it tells me that i look like a bot 2 plz fill out my nick,identity,realname properly07:19
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blackchaosand i do have it set properly07:20
blackchaosplz hlp07:21
ronald__blackchaos: i have no idea what you are talking about07:21
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ronald__blackchaos: if you are talking about an IRC server you are trying to connect to, you could provide the address so then at least more help can be provided. people aren't mind readers here.07:23
blackchaoskk hold on07:23
blackchaosthe server is07:24
blackchaosirc.dashhacks.com07:24
TaladanChances are....07:24
ronald__try: http://dashhacks.com/ and click on "Chat Now!"07:24
ronald__er, s/Now/Here/07:25
TaladanYou need to go into where ever your particular client stores its nick, identity, realname and other settings....07:25
TaladanAnd I'm just guessing here,07:25
Cannolirawr07:25
TaladanFill that stuff out07:25
Cannolii cant get .mp3 files to play07:25
Cannoli!mp307:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:25
MinusSevenI have a USB Keyboard. When I boot up Fedora 7, the Num Lock, Caps Lock & Scroll Lock LED's are on.07:26
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msuiterwhat is the command line to launch the KDE window manager?07:27
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ronald__msuiter: echo 'startkde' > .xinitrc then startx07:27
Taladanmsuiter: is your default wm KDE?07:27
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ronald__with linux clients and linux servers running sshd, how can i get any given client's devices mapped on any given server?07:28
msuiterI just need a single command to start the kde window manager because I need to tell the compiz crash handler what to launch when it crashes07:28
msuiterTaladan07:29
Taladanprobably just 'startx'07:29
ronald__on windows, i was able to get a windows client's CD-ROM drive to work with the server and stream windows server sound to windows client07:29
ronald__it'd be neat if there was a single point of contact similar in linux07:29
Taladanronald__: You want any given ssh client's keys on any given server?07:29
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ronald__Taladan: i didn't say anything about keys07:30
Taladanronald__: I know, but I'm trying to figure out what you mean by 'mapped to'07:30
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ronald__Taladan: see if the windows example makes sense. that's basically what i'd like with linux clients and linux servers07:30
msuiterTaladan, that isn't it, X is starting, I am running KDE, but I need to know how to revert back to the KDE window manager if Compiz decides to crash07:30
Cannoliawww yea07:31
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CannoliXD07:31
Taladanmsuiter: no idea...I disabled Compiz about 20 minutes after I tried it out the first time07:31
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ronald__msuiter: the KDE window manager is kwin. you might need to consult the man page for update-alternatives07:31
Cannolithts u taladan07:31
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ronald__msuiter: Compiz might have modified the symlinks in /etc/alternatives07:31
ronald__Taladan: did the windows example make sense?07:32
msuiterronald__, but I could run    kwin --replace to change back to use it at any moment?07:32
msuiterwoohoo07:32
Taladanronald__: sortof, but I don't think that ssh is the way to handle it...there's servers out there that will stream media to your network, and do it securely (though I don't see any real reason to encrypt mp3's/oggs on a home network)07:32
msuiteryes I can07:32
msuiterI just did it07:32
ronald__wonderful07:32
ronald__Taladan: but i'm not just saying for audio. i mean _any_ client device. mouse, keyboard, speakers, cd-rom drives, removeable drives, etc.07:33
msuiterhow do I run 2 commands simultaneously in a terminal?07:33
ronald__msuiter: command1; command207:33
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Taladanronald__: Sounds like you want something like LDAP or a thin client solution setup.07:33
ronald__Taladan: why the added complexity? windows can do it without all that07:34
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ronald__Taladan: i definitely do not want a thin client solution07:34
TaladanActually, windows just doesn't tell you what it's doing when it does it07:34
ronald__that's true. i assume everything is being passed through RDP though07:34
TaladanIf you're going to do that on a network of any size on windows, you're doing it through Active Directory which is their abortion of LDAP.07:34
ronald__i don't have any openldap / active directory setups going on07:34
ronald__this is just for a home network though07:35
ronald__very small home network07:35
Taladan*nods*07:35
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ronald__well, small is relative. about 8 computers (old and new, so there's a mishmash of technology)07:35
TaladanWhat I'd probably do is use NFS to share media/files out, and then if you want to control the desktop, just use krdp or something similar.07:35
ronald__will NFS handle devices as well?07:36
rc-1whenever i run a program i get http://pastebin.com/m7cd0fb51 :( no idea what do do help plz07:36
ronald__can i mount -t iso9660 /mnt/some_computer_1/dev/cdrom /some_computer_1_mounted_as_local_on_server ?07:37
TaladanI don't think so ronald__, but then again, I've never tried to use a device through NFS...devices in linux are just another file.07:37
ronald__Taladan: not really. i've sort of been spoiled by plan9 which is why i'm asking if it's possible to do in linux ;)07:38
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TaladanI know that there are ways to mount other systems to a directory location on your drive...might look at sshfs...that would allow you to access the mounted points just like ssh'ing into the systems.07:38
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Taladantakes a little bit of setup, but again - not something I've had to set up on my own, just stuff I've read about.07:39
msuiter!fusion-icon07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fusion-icon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:39
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ronald__Taladan: hmm, i hope i'm not picky your brain too much here, but would i be able to use something like sshfs or cifs or any of those network file system drivers to utilize audio / video devices?07:39
Taladanyou mean like x11 forwarding?07:40
Taladanhonestly don't know...haven't delved that far into it07:40
ronald__Taladan: yes! something like that07:40
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ronald__Taladan: to put it more concretely, let's say there's client1 and server1. if client1 wanted to play music on client1 using server1's audio card, would i need to load a kernel module on the client1's terminal as well as server1's? it seems rather wasteful07:41
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TaladanI know that you can forward your xserver in linux, I've done it before, but it's been years.  X is simply another 'server' service that can be sent to any machine with proper credentials07:41
ronald__right, X was built with networking in mind07:41
ronald__you can tunnel X with SSH07:41
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ronald__(which by the way, is why i prefer directfb for non-networked lightweight GUI setups (oxymoron?))07:41
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Taladanronald__: I know that what you're talking about /is/ theoretically possible, but I've never played with doing it myself.07:42
ronald__Taladan: okay, well thanks a lot :)07:42
Jack333man this is pissing me off07:42
Jack333youtube randomly like stalls for a second07:42
Jack333like 3 or 4 times in a single video07:42
ronald__Jack333: is that a connection issue or a plugin issue?07:43
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Jack333its gotta be a youtube/firefox issue07:44
Jack333the video is fully loaded07:44
Jack333and it still screws up, its SO annoying07:44
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TaladanI've gotta fiddle with my kubuntu install and get flash working on it properly.  Still haven't taken time to try and voodoo it into submission again since I reinstalled.07:45
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dougiedid you install the mplayer plugin07:46
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Taladanno, I was trying to get the gnash plugin to work properly, but it seems to hate youtube and all other videos like that.07:47
pioneergood morning07:47
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elite101omg u guys are going to kill me :(07:47
Blackleoi can me help for the terminal of root __07:48
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elite101well im running windows xp :(07:49
elite101and talking on mIRC wich sucks very badly07:49
TaladanWe're not going to kill you.07:49
elite101lol07:49
elite101it feels weird lol i click on things only once07:49
TaladanXP might, but hey, freedom of choice and all that ;)07:49
elite101and they dont open up07:49
elite101lol i forget to doubble click07:49
dougiesound like your in the wrong place07:50
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elite101lol07:50
elite101well technically07:50
elite101user: Elite101 orginization: LinuxJunk ;)07:51
elite101junky*07:51
Daisuke_Laptoptop o' the mornin' to ye07:51
elite101lol 1:52 am07:52
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Daisuke_Laptoppretty close to the top then07:53
Daisuke_Laptopsame time here07:53
Daisuke_Laptopand the worst part: i have class in 7 hours07:53
Taladana saturday morning class?  Ew07:53
elite101ahh school xD07:54
elite101:P07:54
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Taladanwell, with an associates07:54
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arunHow do I check the size of a file/directory through Konsole?08:02
dougiels -l08:03
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Lynourethat does only works for files, for directories du -sh directory   works better08:05
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arunhey Lynoure, long time08:08
arunso du -sh <path> ?08:08
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iarwain_hiya, does anyone know a wireless manager who logs in automatically to the wifi upon boot?08:10
dougieknetworkmanager08:11
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arundoes knetworkmanager work with gnome08:13
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Jack333can i auto detect windows shared folders frmo within ubuntu08:18
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makuseruhow do i make a two part rar archive?08:26
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klaushallo08:40
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terrestregerman?08:42
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LoneShadow!themes08:46
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy08:46
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carbonfreezeanyone running kubuntu tribe? i'm having an issue where KDE is no longer handling removal storage devices (USB). Normally, I would get a popup from KDE complaining about a new device being inserted but I have not seen it since 7.04 -> tribe4 upgrade. the device gets nodes created in /dev and I can mount it manually. KDE storage hander service appears to be running (according to kcontrol). I'm not seeing anything abnormal in dmesg08:55
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Cannoli!notepad09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about notepad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
Cannoli!note09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about note - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
Cannolidamn09:12
Cannoliwhts the linux version of notepad?09:12
hangthedjkate?09:12
goodhabitCannoli: ^) it depends...09:14
goodhabitkwrite ?09:14
carbonfreezekwrite/kate/gedit/emacs/scite...09:14
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goodhabitemacs & kate now really...09:14
goodhabit^)09:14
Cannolihah perfect09:14
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Cannoliyea im using kate now09:14
Cannolithanx09:14
Cannoli:)09:14
goodhabitThey r "heavy:09:15
Cannoli"S09:15
Cannoli:S09:15
hangthedji love kate09:15
Cannoliheavy?09:15
carbonfreezeAlt+F2 enter kwrite09:15
goodhabitHeavy - mean more-more powerful than notepad.09:15
Cannoliah ic09:15
goodhabitKwrite is like notepad.09:15
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Cannoliyea09:15
goodhabitBut everybody using kate, kate is very good.09:15
addaxhow can i do to tell to ssh that go through an especific net device? (sorry my english)09:16
carbonfreezeeh, you could use zile or micro-emacs if you want fast loading. nano is fast too09:16
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hangthedji'm particulaly fond of Joe09:16
Cannolicept i cant get divx web player working09:16
Cannoli:(09:16
carbonfreezeyeah JOE is nice. runs good with 16mb RAM09:17
carbonfreezewould be nice if kubuntu and suse would steal eachothers improvements09:17
Cannolican anyone get any vids to work on stage6.divx.com?09:17
carbonfreezeex: I would like to see fast package management in suse; and something like yast in kubuntu09:18
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GoodHabitaddax: maybe with routes?09:18
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carbonfreezeCannoli: did you install proprietery codecs? IIRC divx works fine using mplayer-plugin for firefox09:18
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Cannoliiircs?09:19
Cannoliiirc?09:19
carbonfreezeIf I remeber correctly...09:19
Cannoliuh oh09:19
Cannolidont think i did09:19
addaxGoodHabit: happend that i have 4 net device (eth1, eth0, vmnet8 and vmnet1). i want that ssh go to an especific one09:19
Cannolilemme check though09:19
GoodHabitCannoli: $sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg09:19
GoodHabitaddax: I dunno actually, but i think what u can do it using route.09:20
addaxGoodHabit: tell me more09:20
Cannolidone09:20
Cannolirestart firefox?09:20
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GoodHabitCannoli: Use konqueror. )09:21
GoodHabitKonqueror is very good browser.09:21
Cannolii noticed09:21
GoodHabitVery good, better than firefox 100%.09:21
Cannolii just installed firefox for tht divx fdunction09:21
CannoliOH SNAP09:22
GoodHabitaddax: Sorry, but i cannot give for you more information, cuz i have 1 network interface ) Try to read man page for route09:22
Cannolithanx!!!!09:22
Cannoli:)09:22
GoodHabitkonqueror - man:route09:22
addaxGoodHabit: and example could be "route add 10.0.0.1 -gw eth1"?09:24
CannoliGoodHabit: when i hit play09:24
Cannolithe divx window dissappears09:24
hangthedjCannoli: what site are you on?09:25
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Cannolistage6.divx.com09:25
Cannoliapperently it works with firefox and the mplayer-plugin09:25
Cannolii tried it but it didnt work09:25
hangthedjfor konqueror, you have to add the .divx extention.09:25
Cannoliwhere?09:25
hangthedjfor firefox, you have to edit the options in mplayer.09:25
hangthedj-plugin09:25
combo- koffeine doesn't show subtitles :/ what am i supposed to do ?09:26
hangthedjCannoli: hold on let me think, i did this awhile ago, and it took along time for me to get it working in konqueror, even longer on firefox.09:26
Cannolikk09:26
GoodHabitcombo: R u choosed subtitles on bottom button?09:26
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comboGoodHabit: they are choosen automaticly09:27
comboas i can see09:27
comboalso sub. has same name like movie09:27
Cannolii got it09:27
combosometimes it shows but mainly not :] 09:27
Cannolihangthedj: i got it. its in file associations in konquror09:27
Cannoliembedded tab and select the mplayer plugin09:28
Cannolithanx  for your help :)09:28
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hangthedjright, Cannoli: to get it to work for me, on Konqueror, i had to use the Kaffeine-Xine plugin.09:29
Cannoliah ic09:30
Cannolidoes it make a difference?>09:30
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hangthedjwhatever works works ;)09:31
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hangthedjon my computer though, it does look nicer in firefox.  but thats just one site.09:32
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Cannoliic09:32
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Cannoliyea i just tried it09:32
Cannolislowed down everything09:32
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Cannolilike lagged my entire pc09:32
Cannoli-_-09:32
carbonfreezei prefer mplayer-plugin w/ firefox compared to the kaffeine plugin; although both have their issues09:34
hangthedjhas anyone installed that new beta of flashplayer 4 linux?09:35
carbonfreezeeh, i used flash 9 awhile back, worked fine for me09:35
hangthedjits like flash 9 beta 3200 or something, they said there was better support for linux i guess.09:36
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carbonfreezewhat annoys me are the sites which say I don't have flash 9, but its installed and works fine on other sites.09:37
hangthedjmaybe thats one of the fixes, i haven't installed it cause flash works fine now. and i don't wanna break it.09:38
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neusoncehey guys i dont hav a kubuntu  issue i have SUSE issue but they dont have they guys to help, its with a sound card. anyone to help ?09:42
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adydasdoes beryl log?09:43
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addaxanybody have used qemu?09:52
terrestre!compiz | drif09:52
ubotudrif: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:52
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GoodHabitaddax: It is much easier to use virtualbox.09:52
terrestrethats howto work well09:53
terrestre!emerald | drif09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
addaxit's for school work09:54
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combo!codecs09:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:56
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comboif 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse' can't be installed cuz it needs libfaad2-0 which is not gonna be installed, what should i do ?09:58
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combo-> how to install codecs?!10:00
combodon't u watch movies, guys??10:00
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terrestrehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats -  <--- just follow thats instruction10:02
terrestrecheck your ubuntu version first10:02
comboterrestre: ok10:02
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pagcombo, enable all repos - including multiverse10:02
combopag: how to enable? cuz there is always error: 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse' needs libfaad2-0 :/10:03
pag!repos | combo10:04
ubotucombo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:04
pagcombo, if that doesn't work, check your /etc/apt/sources.list10:04
comboisn't this enough: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34970/ (that's my sources.list file)10:05
combo???10:05
combopag: but i'm trying your solution, first10:06
combowhen i'm clicking ADEPT menu there is only one option: QUIT so i can't manage repositories :/10:06
pagcombo, are you running feisty?10:07
pagand are you trying adept_manager or adept_installer10:07
combono - my mistakte - there is10:07
combopag: yeap - feisty10:07
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combopag: in manage repos. all option enabled10:07
pagcombo, you have pretty many unofficial repos in yur sources.list - are you sure they don't have any "customised" versions of needed packages with wrong depencies?10:09
pagcombo, I'd try to disable all unofficial ones, and see if the installation will be ok10:09
comboi read this on forum.ubuntu.pl and there is written that it should works as well10:09
combopag: ok10:10
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comboi have not too much knowledge 'bout that so be my guest ;)10:10
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JackPhilcould I chang the key binding of ksynaptics?10:13
JackPhilC-M-P10:13
combopag: and how's going on ? :)10:14
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comboi have to install those stupid codecs cuz i don't have subtitles in kaffeine while watching movies :{10:14
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pagcombo, a little tired after yesterday, but otherwise I'm great :) ( #kubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to have this discussion though)10:15
pagcombo, uhm.. what's wrong with subtitles? are they 'hard-coded' or in a seperate file?10:15
combono - they have same name, same place (in same directory) - there is written that the subt. are loaded but can't see them :/10:16
comboi've been trying everything10:17
pagdo they work in ie. mplayer?10:17
combodidn't try10:17
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comboi love kaffeine... but what is interesting - yesterday they worked :] 10:18
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combotoday when i wanted to watch a movie it crashed10:18
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combobut i guess it might be codecs fault cuz i've not installed them :}10:19
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comboand i can't install gstream! :[10:19
comboi can use AUTOMATIX easily but i don't want to trash my new system anymore :] 10:20
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malqoshow can i install jave 1.5.0?10:20
malqosjava10:20
malqos1.5.010:21
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adydasok im stumped.. afaik ive installed beryl perfectly.. beryl manager runs but when i select the beryl from window manager the screen flicks and then i check it out to find still kde..10:22
adydaswhere do i start to diagnose this, xorg.log?10:22
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GoodHabitadydas: Sorry, can u repeat what is problem with beryl?10:22
adydaswell the beryl manager runs fine10:23
adydasbut when i select beryl from the window manager option the screen flicks and has no chance10:23
adydasberly hasnt loaded but nor has it errored10:23
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adydasit has worked on another install with the same hardware so i know it can work i just dont know why or how to tell why its not working this time around.10:23
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GoodHabitSo u read instructions about beryl installation?10:23
GoodHabit*Configuring10:24
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Cannoliis it possible to get a matrix screesaver for linux?10:24
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GoodHabitCannoli: It is possible10:25
Cannolihow might i be able to acquire one?10:25
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Cannolicause the matrix falling makes a sick screen saver10:26
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neusonceGUYS what version of alsa dose kubuntu 7.4 use ?10:27
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pipaddax, Hello10:30
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combocan splash-screen be an animated *.gif image ? :)10:30
neusonce!asla10:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:31
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adydasGoodHabit: yes, but that fails to say what to do when it fails to work with no signs of why10:31
Cannoli!sudo10:32
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:32
adydascombo: try http://kde-look.org10:32
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doug_does anyone here know anything about initng?10:34
comboadydas: thx10:34
adydasiniting?10:34
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doug_no it's like init10:34
adydaswhats  up?10:34
doug_but its faster boot-up speed.  initng is a program10:35
GoodHabitadydas: Make it like described at beryl-wiki on homepage of beryl-project.10:35
adydasberyl wiki wont load10:35
adydassome message about being back later as some ones tagged it with garbage and it needing some TLC10:35
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Dogghttp://www.streetracers.de.tp/?wid=912810:41
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edulixhi10:44
edulixI have a core 2 duo, which iso image should I download? i386 or amd64?10:44
edulixbecuase core 2 duo is 64 bits (AFAIK)10:45
pagedulix, both will work - i386 is probably easier10:45
edulixpag: but then why it's called amd64?10:46
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edulixI don't really understand what has this to do with amd if it also works in intel10:46
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pagedulix, iirc amd did the 64bit trick first, so arch is called that way10:47
edulixahh ok10:47
pagedulix, x86_64 is the vendor-independed way to refer to 64bit - both are used and mean the same thing10:48
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unique311compiz fusion guide?10:59
unique311can't seem to get compiz working with kubuntu10:59
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ksivaji!geisty11:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about geisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:03
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ksivaji!guisty11:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:04
MilhousePunkRockunique311: Try #ubuntu-effects11:04
MilhousePunkRockksivaji: Are you looking for Feisty or Gutsy?11:04
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ksivaji!Gutsy11:05
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+111:05
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unique311thanks MilhousePunkRock11:05
unique311you the same MilhousePunkRock on #maemo11:05
MilhousePunkRockunique311: I don't think so, but my nick is registered on freenode11:06
MilhousePunkRockunique311: I am the same on #amarok though ;)11:06
unique311ok11:06
MilhousePunkRockunique311: That's just a plain "milhouse" over there... ;)11:07
unique311plain..11:07
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unique311might be related if thats your last name.11:07
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ksivajiMilhousePunkRock can i download gusty11:09
MilhousePunkRockunique311: My middle name is PunkRock! ;)11:09
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MilhousePunkRockksivaji: If you dare, you can, but support and discussion is only in #ubuntu+111:09
ksivajiMilhousePunkRock you mean it is unstable11:10
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MilhousePunkRockksivaji: It's under heavy developement, things will break once in a while...11:11
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ksivajiok ok11:11
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jakehi guys please help me to fix my adept11:21
damiangday11:21
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damiancan someone please help me resize an active partition11:22
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pagjake, could you describe your problem?11:23
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contrast83damian: your best bet would probably be to use a gparted live cd. someone correct me if there's an easier way.11:25
jakewhen i open the adept it say i11:25
jake cnnot modify check if other application are running11:26
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pagjake, well are there other adept-apps running? ie. Updates?11:27
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jakenope. it happens to me before and some body give me a command like fixing the adept11:28
pag!aptfix | jake11:28
ubotujake: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:28
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jakethanx pag. ubotu's command is whaty im looking for. i appreciate your help so much11:29
pagnp :)11:29
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jakeanyway anybody here guys using vmware?11:31
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llp78I need some help with a 1gb usb pen only showing up as 560mb in kubuntu - the space is being used but i cant see any files on the pen11:37
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llp78should I format the pen and if so how?11:37
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edulix/j #vbox,#vmware11:38
edulixups11:38
MilhousePunkRockllp78: Is it partioned or something?11:40
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llp78MilhousePunkRock: no partition on it - all I want is too get the 1gb back11:41
MilhousePunkRockllp78: If it's vfat, it should work out of the box... Do you plan to share it with windows machines? If not, you could format it to ext2/311:42
llp78MilhousePunkRock: i do need to use this pen on linux and kubuntu11:42
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llp78MilhousePunkRock: how do I format the usb pen?11:42
runleveltenWhat other things have/are you using the pen for?11:43
dimhello all, is synaptic used only in gnome? or can it also be installed and used in kde too?11:43
runleveltenworks fine in KDE11:43
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runleveltenI've used it in KDE for years, without issue11:43
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dimrunlevelten: i am just downloading it with aptitude but it is now installing some gnome libraries, is it supposed to be so?11:44
runleveltenWell, except for the odd crash/failure to install issues synaptic used to have anywhere, heh :)11:44
MilhousePunkRockllp78: Just like any other device, "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdxy" where x is the device and y the partition... Could be sda1, for intance, check "sudo dmesg" to find out11:44
runleveltenIt will install its deps yeah. It's no biggy though11:45
dimrunlevelten: ok, thanks. otherwise I thought it is downloading for the gnome :-)11:45
runleveltenIt'll just load them while you're package managing, that's all11:45
runleveltenIt doesn't hurt to have the foundation of both for special cases like synaptic, imo11:46
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arunOk so I'm repartitioning my hard drive.. should i allocate 15GB for / and the rest for /home ?11:48
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arun??11:49
arunis 15GB too much for / ?11:49
MilhousePunkRockarun: Sounds good to me11:49
arunhey MilhousePunkRock11:49
MilhousePunkRockHello arun11:50
arunis 15GB too much for / ? is it enough?11:50
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MilhousePunkRockarun: Depens on your needs, for a regular desktos system, that is enough, you could even make it smaller... I dont think it would hurt to have it bigger than you need it though...11:51
arunMilhousePunkRock: alright, thanks :)11:51
arunthis is the first time i'm using a /home partition11:51
arunwhen gutsy comes out, can i do a clean install and not worry about stuff stored in /home?11:51
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MilhousePunkRockarun: Right...11:52
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arunalright11:53
arunsorry if i sound a bit dim-witted heh11:53
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bart_need help, my adept manager is running in locked mode it says that another program is running.. how do i close the other program?11:55
pag!aptfix | bart_11:56
ubotubart_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:56
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cathI have a slightly annoying problem with knetworkmanager. Running feisty on an old toshiba laptop, my xircom cardbus network card is always disabled on startup, and I have to manually enable it with knetworkmanager on the panel. Is there any way to automate enabling the card?12:04
bart_thanx12:04
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cath__so quiet in here12:10
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wolfgerit echoes12:17
wolfgergood morning, cath12:17
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cath__hi. it's 8.17pm here, but good morning to you12:17
wolfgerother side of the world... 6:18 AM here12:18
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runleveltenAh, oz eh? Well hello :)12:19
cath__I have a slightly annoying problem with knetworkmanager. Running feisty on an old toshiba laptop, my xircom cardbus network card is always disabled on startup, and I have to manually enable it with knetworkmanager on the panel. Is there any way to automate enabling the card?12:19
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wolfgerI'm sure there is, but I haven't figured it out yet. I haven't been able to get my Xubuntu LiveCD to enable my work laptop wifi at all, much less at startup.12:21
cath__I find xubuntu a little rough around the edges, esp compared to kubuntu12:22
wolfgerit is12:22
wolfgerbut the work laptop isn't exactly a powerhouse machine...12:22
wolfgerand I rarely use it outside of work... I just want to not have to boot into Windows on those rare occasions I need the laptop for personal reasons12:23
cath__same here. I've installed xubuntu and kubuntu on this laptop, but it doesn't make as much difference as I thought it would. Desktop starts up a little quicker, but that's about it12:23
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wolfgerhere at the home base, I installed Ubuntu, gave it an honest effort for about a week and a half, and then I just couldn't stand GNOME any more. :-)12:25
wolfgerinstalled "kubuntu-desktop" package last night :-)12:25
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wolfgerI keep thinking about going back to a Fluxbox desktop, which I used to love, but I've got power to spare on this desktop PC, and KDE is prettier.12:26
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uncoolguyhey all12:38
vprintsin gutsy the compiz -replace loose destroys window decorations12:38
uncoolguyanybody wanna help me with an audio issue on a toshiba satellite a205-s470712:39
vprintshow to get them back ?12:39
Jack333how can i see my windows shares in kubuntu12:39
cath__uncoolguy: just state your problem and see if anyone bites12:40
uncoolguyI did .... I have no audio12:40
uncoolguyand that's an issue12:40
uncoolguyhaha12:40
cath__has it ever worked, or new install?12:40
uncoolguynew install of kubuntu .... works fine on vista (dualboot machine)12:41
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uncoolguyI couldn't get it to work when I tried compiz either, or sabayon12:41
wolfgerjack333, are your windows shares mounting, do you know?12:41
wolfgerdesktop icons for those partitions, maybe?12:42
uncoolguya friend recommended I try kubuntu, as that's what he runs now (with XP pro virtualized interestingly enough, and he said that it's much more stable haha)12:42
Jack333i have a crapload of computers with shared folders, isnt there a way to autodetect them12:42
bart_how do i install vlc?12:42
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stamenhi12:43
stamenhow to read UDF burned file12:43
Jack333bart_ sudo apt-get install vlc12:43
wolfgerjack333, not sure, exactly. I don't have any windows shares currently (did on previous distro), but Ubuntu autodetected everything I have....12:43
stamenit is a movie, but burned on UDF, and now I can't see it on the DVD12:43
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wolfgerI would imagine it would auto-detect NTFS partitions as well12:44
uncoolguyalso having problems with beryl, the ctrl+alt+arrow keys don't rotate the cube like they did in compiz and/or sabayon12:44
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stamenno errors were displayed, and the file is the, but when I insert the DVD I can't see the file, it's like it is not recorded12:44
stamenwhat to do12:44
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bart_jack333: thank you12:45
Jack333np12:46
uncoolguyhmmm12:46
uncoolguyI can't remember what I set the root password too12:46
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uncoolguy:(12:46
uncoolguyhaha12:46
Jack333lol12:46
uncoolguythought I did, but it won't accept it12:46
uncoolguythat's not good12:46
Jack333hahaha12:46
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uncoolguyis there a way to look it up?12:47
uncoolguyand/or change it?12:47
cath__uncoolguy: how did you log in?12:48
arunCan someone please help me with partitioning? I am trying to partition as: 40GB Windows XP partition, 30GB FAT32 shared partition, 512mb swap, 15GB as / and the rest as /home  . how do i do this? I am trying, but as soon as i create a total of 4 partitions (including swap), it allocates the rest of the space as 'unusable'. What am I doing wrong?12:48
uncoolguylogged in as user12:48
uncoolguyI was trying to run alsaconf12:49
uncoolguybut it says I have to run it as root12:49
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cath__uncoolguy: and you have a password, right? that should be the "root" password12:49
uncoolguybut when I hit su, which is how I was told to run something as root in terminal, but when I type in the password I use to log on, it says Authentication failure12:50
cath__sudo <command>12:50
uncoolguyhmmm12:50
uncoolguyok12:50
uncoolguywell that worked, but it doesn't run alsaconf12:51
bart_jack333: how do make vlc my defualt player, and how do i install mp3 support for amarok, it hangs before it can install mp3 support12:51
arunanyone?12:51
Jack333duno sorry12:51
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bart_how do make vlc my defualt player, and how do i install mp3 support for amarok, it hangs before it can install mp3 support12:51
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bart_jack333: np12:52
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uncoolguyanybody know why my audio might not be working12:53
uncoolguyToshiba satellite a20512:53
uncoolguyHDA Intel soundcard12:53
cath__uncoolguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&page=63 might be of help to you12:54
uncoolguythanks cath__12:54
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cath__bart_: you can set default apps from konqueror settings12:54
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jobbe_hey12:55
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jobbe_I'm running gutsy atm and I noticed that gtk applications stopped working (firefox, gimp etc). I get this error: http://www.pastebin.ca/670044 with every gtk app. any ideas on this?12:57
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cath__bart_: also, I install mp3 support, etc, with medibuntu packages. http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com read the repository howto01:04
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jabbahallo01:13
jabbaist es eigentlich problemlos von feisty auf Gutsy Gibbon zu wechslen?01:13
jabbaalso einfach source.list auf gutsy anpassen und dann dist-upgrade?01:13
jabbaoder gibts da evtl sogar ne ankeitung zu?01:14
jabbaoh sorry01:14
jabbashould write in english01:14
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jabbais there a problem to upgrade from feisty to gutsy? Or just simply changing sources.list entries to gutsy and then do a dist-upgrade with aptitude01:15
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bart_cath__: thnax01:22
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uncoolguyhey quick question ..... following the installation of this audio driver that alsa-project put up, and in there is a command that doesn't work, and I'm not sure what's wrong with it01:30
uncoolguyit says cp /downloads/alsa-* .01:30
uncoolguybut when I type that, it says .... cp: cannot stat '/downloads/alsa-*': no such file or directory01:31
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ubuntu_hehehe01:31
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uncoolguyso then I thought maybe I had to download something? but I can't find links for whatever I'm supposed to be downloading01:32
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uncoolguyanybody have any ideas?01:32
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uncoolguywhat does the cp command do?01:33
drifcopy files01:33
cath__uncoolguy: that's a copy command. you're probably trying to copy something that is not in that location "/downloads/"01:33
uncoolguyok01:34
cath__type cp --help for details on the command01:34
uncoolguyI'll figure it out01:34
uncoolguythanks01:34
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runlevelten!man01:34
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal01:34
drifuncoolguy: do you have download directory at root level?01:34
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AzzcoHwo do I play encrypted DVDs?01:37
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cath__Azzco: medibuntu packages make it easier to install.  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com01:38
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runlevelten!dvd01:39
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:39
monteleoIs there an easy way to install Compiz in Feisty?01:40
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Azzcorunlevelten: I've allready installed libdvdcss2 but I still get an error in kaffeine01:40
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cath__Azzco: does kaffeine play any videos?01:41
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Azzcocath__: yes most DVDs I have it's been able to play01:42
AzzcoI get erros with libdvdread and libdvdnav in terminal though...01:43
AzzcoBoth installed01:43
cath__Azzco: you could try uninstalling libdvdcss2, then install from medibuntu packages01:43
AzzcoI have it from medibuntu..01:43
cath__is this feisty?01:43
AzzcoYupp01:43
passoh ye finally got my lm-sensors running01:45
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cath__have you tried the seveas ones? the medibuntu one works perfectly for me, but it's probably at least worth trying the other01:46
Azzcocath__: Okay I'll get back in a sec then01:46
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nosrednaekimhow is everyone doing today?02:03
seheabsent?02:03
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mb9999g'day, anybody here?02:09
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mb9999Does anybody know how to set up a shared printer which is attached to a windows 98se box? Anybody?02:10
uncoolguywhen I try and run a ./configure for my hda-intel card, it comes up with an error that the C Compiler cannot create executables, what do I do?02:11
seheshould be possible to browse for 'sambe' printer in 'kcmshell printers'02:11
sehemb9999: or use settings:/Peripherals/02:12
uncoolguyI checked the .log file, and it almost seems like there isn't a compiler02:12
sehesamba*02:12
mb9999I'll give it a go, cheers02:12
uncoolguy?02:12
seheuncoolguy: be sure that you have all build dependecies? do you have build-essentials?02:12
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sehemb9999: maybe check that the printer is 'shared' on the win-box. Do you have filesharing working already?02:13
uncoolguyI have no idea, I was sent a link for comprehensive sound problems for intel cards02:13
mb9999apparently. I can see the share in the winbox, but not on the linux box02:13
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sehemb9999: ok, check that filesharing is enabled on the network adaptor02:13
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sehemb9999: (win box)02:14
mb9999It is02:14
Azzcocath__: No progress with the sevea package either (was helping a guy over MSN with something else)02:14
seheuncoolguy: i tend to *not* follow links to 'comprehensive sound problems' :D02:14
uncoolguystarted reading that and in there there's a link for alsa files, I was in process of installing drivers for that, but when I get to the command ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-sequencer=yes ; make ; make install02:14
uncoolguyit comes up with that error02:14
mb9999I can browse the network share and printer share through the network settings on the win98 box, but when I try to see them on the other machine, no dice.02:14
melomanehi , how can i install nvidia driver?02:15
uncoolguysehe: well it was cath__ that sent me the link02:15
sehe!nvidia | melomane02:15
ubotumelomane: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:15
seheuncoolguy: i was joking. it seemed you 'found' problems at the link :D02:15
uncoolguyright .....02:16
uncoolguyanywho02:16
sehemb9999: looks a lot like (1) file sharing over TCP disabled (2) maybe firewall interfering02:16
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uncoolguyI guess I don't understand what the problem is02:16
sehemb9999: can you access the win-box at all from ubuntu?02:16
uncoolguyreading the log file is about as informative as the BOD in windows02:16
mb9999good question. I'll check the firewall settings02:16
pass!repeat repeat02:16
nosrednaekimuncoolguy: no compiler? run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repeat repeat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
melomaneubotu: i am new in kubuntu, ur link is for gnome not kde02:17
uncoolguyok, I'll try that02:17
uncoolguythanks02:17
pass!ubotu ubotu02:17
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:17
nosrednaekimmelomane: there are kubuntu instructions on there I believe.02:17
uncoolguywell it's installing something now, so maybe that will help02:17
pass!abuse ubotu02:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about abuse ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:17
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pass!repeat | repeat02:17
seheuncoolguy: ok as i don't know what problem you have been working on with cath__ i'll step back02:17
uboturepeat: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience02:17
pass!patience02:18
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:18
sehepass what is your question, m8?02:18
melomanei dont have the pack of nvidia driber02:18
sehe!repositories | melomane02:18
ubotumelomane: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:18
passjust messing around with the bot02:18
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uncoolguysehe: I appreciate your help. Thanks!02:18
sehepass: please do that on pms (query the bot)02:18
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pass!patience | sehe02:19
ubotusehe: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:19
passok02:19
mb9999It was a firewall issue on the 98box. Thanks guys (I only have a couple of hours before I leave the country & leave my mum to kubuntu's tender mercies) Much thanks again!!02:19
sehe!info nvidia-kernel-common | melo02:19
ubotumelo: nvidia-kernel-common: NVIDIA binary kernel module common files. In component restricted, is optional. Version 20051028+1ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 112 kB02:19
pass!pms02:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:19
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pass!private message02:20
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.02:20
sehepass: /query ubotu02:20
sehepass: you might need to register if you havent yet02:20
sehe!register | pass02:20
ubotupass: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration02:20
passthanks sehe02:20
sehepass: anytime :D02:20
nosrednaekim:)02:21
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sehemb9999: good to hear02:21
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sehe!info restricted-manager | melomane02:23
ubotumelomane: restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB02:23
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sehe#off-topic: (in loving memory of pass) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=pms02:24
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sehepmsL02:25
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nosrednaekimpms means something other than PM's.....02:25
sehenosrednaekim: that's why i sent ppl to the 'disambiguation' page :)02:25
stdinsehe: don't use away messages02:25
nosrednaekim:)02:25
sehestdin: why - is that a policy?02:26
stdinyep02:26
stdin!away02:26
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines02:26
sehestdin: ok didn know. i thought it rather spiffy :D otoh, i'm not really away now, am i02:26
stdinsehe: have a read of the guidelines page, it goes in to some (graphic) detail why away messages aren't good :)02:27
sehestdin: never mind, i was convinced already02:28
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sehestdin: i can't find the option to disable away messages in konversation... any clue?02:30
stdinit's in your identity settings02:30
sehethx02:31
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Delphinusraid 1 question02:33
Delphinus2 400g drives setup with raid1 using nvraid02:33
seheDelphinus: software/hardware/ide?02:33
Delphinusfakeraid02:33
seheok02:33
seheDelphinus: not much of an expert, but do ask :D02:33
Delphinusi've got win xp sucessfully installed02:33
Delphinus:D ty02:34
seheDelphinus: on fakeraid? or beside it02:34
Delphinususing the nvidia drivers.... windows sees it as 1 drive02:34
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Delphinuswhen i boot off kubuntu it see's 2 separate drives (due to fakeraid)02:34
sehe*huh* nvidia && raid ===> { empty set } in my brain02:34
Delphinushow do I install kubuntu onto these drives as raid102:35
seheDelphinus: hang on02:35
Delphinusi've been reading heaps of tutorials, but they all just say install linux then blah blah with dmraid02:35
Delphinussehe: ty02:35
seheDelphinus: i'm looking for a tutorial i found on this (related?) for gentoo02:35
Delphinuscool02:35
seheyeah it dmraid-based as well. no luck? dmraid -a no info?02:36
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Delphinusno i haven't installed yet02:36
Delphinusi'm wondering do i just install on 1 drive02:36
seheDelphinus: i think it is the way to go.02:36
stdinDelphinus: I found this if it helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto02:36
Delphinusor use software raid to clone linux stuff to both drives02:36
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Delphinusand dmraid to access the fat partiitons02:36
Delphinusand will nvidia raid spit the dummy when I boot back into windows02:37
seheDelphinus: dmraid should be able to 'detect' the raid-array and configyre software raid just like in windows02:37
Delphinusafter installing linux in non raid mode?02:37
seheDelphinus: don't - i repeat - don't install linux in non-raid02:37
seheDelphinus: in fact, don02:37
seheDelphinus: in fact, don't acces the drive in non-raid02:37
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Delphinuswhat ya mean?02:38
Delphinusi guess other option is grab a 1gig usb stick, put that in and install boot stuff on that02:38
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Delphinusand leave it in permanently02:38
seheDelphinus: it is the same as raw partition access, but worse. It'll mitigate all benefits of raid in the first place, and has the potential to screw your drives02:38
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Delphinusso... configure raid1 across both drives when doing install?02:39
seheDelphinus: if the drive is raid, logically the 'single' physical drives are not valid volumes at all02:39
seheDelphinus: is possible using dmraid (or similar). I'd have a look at the page that stdin sent02:39
Delphinusyup reading that02:39
seheDelphinus: i'm not, but i expect that it explains how to install, configuring raid first02:40
Delphinusbut it just says:02:40
DelphinusInstall dmraid02:40
Delphinus    *02:40
Delphinus      Boot the Ubuntu CD and select Start or Install Ubuntu02:40
Delphinus    *02:40
Delphinus      Go to System > Administration > Software Sources and add the universe software repository.02:40
seheDelphinus: prepare to do some grub-tuning as well (maybe need to create special stage 1.5 binaries to access the raid volume)02:40
Delphinusthat seems to say that you do that at your GUI desktop after installing02:40
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seheDelphinus: just do it off the live cd. The live CD is (like the name implies) a live (k)ubuntu environment02:41
Delphinusoh so not the alternate?02:41
seheDelphinus: so yes, a certain amount of double work is in order: first configure dmraid in the live CD to be able to install, then configure raid for grub to be able to boot the new install02:41
Delphinusrighto02:42
seheDelphinus: the alternate, probably. Follow the guide :D02:42
seheDelphinus: it's like bootstrapping02:42
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Delphinusleast i'll learn lots ;)02:42
seheDelphinus: If you had installed linux first using software raid, and tried to install XP later, it would have been the same but the other way round. (Apart from the fact that XP probably doesn't support taht)02:43
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risnot sure about the tribe 5 kdm colour scheme02:43
seheDelphinus: The simplest approach is (most often taken route) (1) intall on separate physical arrays/single drives02:43
Delphinussehe: last comment you mean the 2 os's?02:44
sehe(2) install on *hardware* raid. Some forms of IDE-raid (with bios support) are supported on both  XP and linux02:44
seheDelphinus: yes (the 2 os-es)02:44
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seheris: i think we might miss the rest of a converstaion, or please state the question again02:45
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Delphinusthankyou very much for your comments sehe, I'll see what happens :D02:45
seheris: btw, if you mean to discuss KDE-look in gutsy, see #ubuntu+102:46
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seheDelphinus: well and good luck. You are in for a challenge02:46
Delphinuslol yup!02:46
rissehe: excellent - didnt know about that channel02:46
sehe!on-topc | ris02:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about on-topc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:46
seheanytime, ris02:47
valentin13hey sehe02:47
sehe!on-topic | ris02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about on-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:47
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sehe(i carnt bloddy type :D))02:47
sehe!off-topic | ris02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:47
seheok i quit... :D02:47
valentin13sehe give me french room02:47
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nosrednaekim!fr02:49
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:49
sehe!off-topic is <alias> offtopic02:49
valentin13this fucking french room is ded02:51
valentin13dead02:51
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nosrednaekim!ohmy02:54
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:54
uncoolguyok, one more question ....02:54
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seheyup02:55
uncoolguywhen running the ./configure for the alsa-lib, it gets all the way through until it gets to /usr/src/alsa/alsa-lib-1.0.14a/includ/sound .... then it comes up with a /bin/bash: ver.tmp: Permission denied and everything from there out has errors because of the permissions on that one file02:56
uncoolguybut I'm running it as root02:56
Angelusdoes kubuntu have a firewall?02:56
seheAngelus: yes and no02:57
stdin!firewall | Angelus02:57
ubotuAngelus: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).02:57
Angelushow can i disable it?02:57
seheAngelus: yes, it has iptables support (kernel). No it is not 'configured' by ddefault (like on XP SP2+)02:57
Angelusit is enabled02:57
Angelusby default02:57
stdinAngelus: it does nothing by default02:57
seheAngelus: nothing to disable. Unless you *enabled* it02:57
Angeluscause firefrost detected it02:57
Angelus:/02:57
sehe!find firewall02:57
ubotuFound: arno-iptables-firewall, kmyfirewall02:57
Angelus*frostwire02:58
Angelusdetected it02:58
seheAngelus: possibly your ISP?02:58
stdinAngelus: maybe it's detecting your router (if you have one)02:58
seheAngelus: depending on your router :D02:58
Angelusah02:58
Angelusi see02:58
uncoolguywhy would I not have permissions on that directory? when running as root02:58
Angelushow can i disable the routers firewall O_o02:58
Angeluslol02:58
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Angelusit doesn have an aoption for it :/02:59
seheAngelus: any 'hop' to the internet may be responsible for some 'filtering'. Many ISPs do some protocol filtering on SMTP. Some even block direct internet access to yor port 2502:59
stdinAngelus: you generally can't, you'll have to do some port forwarding02:59
seheAngelus: like I said, it could be the ISP. Nobody sais it *is* the router.02:59
Angelusoh02:59
Angelusi see02:59
stdinyeah, some ISPs just disable some ports altogether03:00
Angelusyeah but even torrents slowed down when i got the router03:00
uncoolguyare you referring to e-mail?03:00
seheAngelus: do you know an internetbased port scanner? See e.g. http://grc.com (find 'shields-up')03:00
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nitesh!register03:00
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:00
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seheAngelus: it should be clear from the ISPs tech details page though03:00
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seheAngelus: I use it to verify my 'exposure' sometimes.03:01
uncoolguyI work for the local ISP, and I know that we don't allow port forwarding03:01
sehegrc ^^03:01
uncoolguyI would assume most are like that03:01
seheuncoolguy: what does an ISP mean by port forwarding?03:01
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seheuncoolguy: I think we (Angelus et al) are talking NAT from router to internal network host03:02
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Angelusyeah03:02
Angeluswhen i hadn't the router i speeded up my torrents a bit03:02
Angelusbut as soon as iv got the router03:02
Angelusthe speed got down again03:02
stdinif an ISP doesn't let you forward ports from your own router, it's time for a new ISP :p03:02
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sehestdin: I don't see (in my DSL situation) how an ISP could prevent that.03:03
Angelusyeah03:03
Angelusan isp cant prevent you from forwarding ports on your own router03:03
stdinsehe: neither do I, unless the ISP provide the router and lock it down03:03
sehestdin: the router would be horribly insecure if the ISP could see it's settings, and NAT is designed to be completely transparent, is it not?03:03
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Angelusdough it can block the ports from their site03:03
uncoolguywell as far as what we filter it's going to be for email ..... so for example if you have email through sbcglobal and you're trying to sned email through our internet service, it won't allow it because you're still connecting through our service to somebody else's email service03:03
sehestdin: just buy another router ($40?)03:03
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seheuncoolguy: well that's email routing. rather unrelated to IP routing03:04
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stdinsehe: indeed, but I've heard of some where you have to use their provided hardware03:04
uncoolguyI thought we were talking email?03:04
sehestdin: *shock*03:04
uncoolguymy mistake03:04
seheuncoolguy: no problem03:04
uncoolguytrying to get techs to go check on this FAA circuit before I get another call on it03:05
uncoolguyfunny how the FAA thinks they're more important than everybody else isn't it? :P03:05
uncoolguyhaha03:05
seheAngelus: but to get back to business. Can you think of any appliance that would cause traffic to be filtered?03:05
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Angelushmm03:05
Angelusno03:05
Angelus:S03:05
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Angelusi think my isp filters everything03:05
Angeluslol03:05
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seheAngelus: nah not likely. YOu wouldn't have much fun of internet then :D03:06
seheAngelus: for one thing, IRC works03:06
Angeluswell03:06
stdinsome ISP don't block things like torrents, but they do throttle it03:06
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seheAngelus: Also, torrents are 'unique' in the sense that you'll have to allow inbound traffic. I have had to configure a maaping (NAT) in my router to enable torrent from my laptop:03:07
Angelushow can i do that?03:07
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BluesKajHowdy All :>)03:08
seheI was looking for my config, but it's gone (don't use torrents too often). Also, modern appliances might automatically create temporary NAT mappings (using uPNP)03:08
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seheAngelus: what ports seems to be blocked, btw?03:09
Angelusi dont have blocked ports03:09
Angelusits a matter of speed03:09
Angelus:/03:09
Angelusthe torrents slowed down as hell03:10
Angeluslike 10kB/s03:10
seheok you mentioned frostwire reported 'stuff'. What is the stuff?03:10
Angelusah03:10
Angelusit detected a firewall03:10
sehe!info frostwire | sehe03:10
Angelusbut the most i mworried about is torrents03:10
seheAngelus: Ic , frostwire is the torrent client, and it says it detects a firewall03:10
Angelusi use torrents alot03:10
Angelusno03:10
seheAngelus: It means, it detects a router and missing NAT mappings :)03:11
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Angelusi dont use frostwire for torrents03:11
Angelusi use to download songs03:11
Angelusfor torrents i use Utorrent03:11
Angelusthe windows one03:11
Angelus;p03:11
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stdinjust a reminder: technical support on torrent software is aloud, discussion of it's less than legal uses is not03:12
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seheAngelus: so... what is forstwire03:12
sehealoud = allowed ? :D03:12
stdinsehe: yeah :P, too many thing happening in too many channels :p03:12
seheAngelus: i carnt find a package for it03:12
Angelusfor what sehe?03:13
seheAngelus: to get info. The bot didn have any03:13
Angelusfor frostwire or utorrent?03:13
BluesKajsehe , you have to port map TCP port number on the router listed in the torrent client download section , for example ktorrent uses 6881 as the std TCP port and it listens for trackers on 4444 UDP port03:13
sehe!find frostwire03:13
Angelushmm03:13
ubotuPackage/file frostwire does not exist in feisty03:13
stdin!frostwire03:13
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:13
Angelusi didnt install it from the package manager03:13
Angelusi usually install things from their site03:13
seheAngelus: that settles the matter:) Tx03:13
BluesKajfrostwire is a terrible client03:13
Angeluswhat settles the matter?03:14
Angelus:o03:14
seheAngelus: so, I'd refer you to the Limewire FAQ03:14
Angelussehe:03:14
Angeluslol03:14
Angelusyou're not understanding me03:14
seheAngelus: ^^^ for info that settles my grey matter03:14
seheAngelus: I'm following your own clue that 'frostwire detects a firewall'03:14
Angelusi dont want help on frotwire , i just named frostwire to tell you that im firewalled, what i need help on is torrents, because they're downloading hell of slowly03:14
Angelus:p03:14
seheAngelus: if the clue is irrelevant, please let me know why03:15
seheAngelus: like i hinted above, don't assume 'you must be firewalled' because some bloddy app cannot detect your routing config :D03:15
Angelusunderstood?03:15
Angelusyeah but the question is03:15
Angeluswhy are my torrents downloading slow?03:15
stdinAngelus: it could be your ISP throttling you torrent downloads, a lot do that.03:15
Angelusi fawarded the port of uTorrent program03:16
seheAngelus: i ment to suggest that the message only indicates that you have some NAT to configure on your router03:16
Angelusnot really03:16
seheAngelus: using the router?03:16
Angelusi think its all from the router03:16
Angeluscause they slowed down after iv go the router03:16
Angelus:/03:16
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seheAngelus: only one way to find out, really... Eliminate the router and compare03:16
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Angelusthey used to be slow before because i had too much upload, but then i reduced upload nad they got fast, but after i installed the router they got slow again03:17
seheAngelus: not likely that the ubuntu box has a firewall issue unless YOU configured one :D03:17
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Angelusi dont think it matters if im downloading torrents from a windows program on linux i think ey?03:17
Angelusi wined it03:18
Angelusbut on their site it says it compatable with wine03:18
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sehewining never helps (much like whining lol)03:18
Angeluslol03:18
seheAngelus: compatible doesn't imply anything on performance, imho03:18
BluesKajutorrent works well on wine , but why bother ktorrent is better IMO03:18
seheBluesKaj: i think that is not the point. A lot of torrent clients are better!03:19
Angelusyou think it could be because im using utorrent?03:19
Angelusu torrent rocks03:19
ubuntu_oi03:19
BluesKajutorrent is great on windows , yeah ...ktorrent is better on kubuntu03:19
Angeluswhy is it better?03:19
BluesKajless ahssle03:20
Angelusif it works fine on wine :S03:20
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BluesKajhassle03:20
ubuntu_hehe03:20
BluesKajwell fine use wine  :)03:20
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Angelusso you think ktorrent will work better03:20
Angelus?03:20
Angelusif yes, i'll use np03:20
seheI use bittornado :D Runs in a screen session on my router box. No problems, I can just shut down my desktop and go to bed03:21
BluesKajwhy are you bothering with kubuntu if you won'y use it's apps , Angelus03:21
AngelusO_O03:21
Angelusi use its apps BluesKaj :S03:21
BluesKajdo ya miss windows that much ?03:21
seheBluesKaj: no need to escalate / generalize?03:21
Angelusno BluesKaj03:21
Angelusits only 1 application i use03:21
Angelusonly utorrent03:21
Angelusthe rest everything from kubuntu's03:21
Angelus:S03:21
seheBluesKaj: ow come on, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=AdHominem03:21
BluesKajwell then , have fun03:22
AngelusBluesKaj: relax dude03:22
Angelus:o03:22
Angelusim not shotting you with a 9mm03:22
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Angelusi just wanted and advice03:22
Angelus:/03:22
sehehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Ad_hominem03:22
Angeluslol03:22
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seheAngelus: well, you got advice already03:23
Angelusnot about ktorrent03:23
Angeluscause as soon as i asked03:23
valentin13i have some proble03:23
Angelushe nealry kllled meh03:23
Angelus:/03:23
seheAngelus: minor point, ain't it03:23
valentin13probleme03:23
Angeluslol03:23
Angelussehe: should i start using ktorrent ?03:23
Angelusand remove utorrent?03:23
Angelusdoes it work better?03:23
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seheAngelus: well... i do feel you exaggerate... and I stood up, didn I LOLOL03:23
Angeluscould it be the matter of slow torrents?03:23
valentin13* Beryl system compatiblity check                            *03:23
valentin13**************************************************************03:23
valentin13Detected xserver                                : NVIDIA03:23
valentin13Checking Display :0.0 ...03:24
stdin!paste | valentin1303:24
ubotuvalentin13: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:24
valentin13Checking for XComposite extension               : passed (v0.3)03:24
Angeluslol!03:24
seheAngelus: yes and no: Ktorrent might just be smarter about routing (try it?)03:24
valentin13Checking for XDamage extension                  : passed03:24
valentin13Checking for RandR extension                    : passed03:24
Angelusah ok03:24
valentin13Checking for XSync extension                    : passed03:24
valentin13Checking Screen 0 ...03:24
Angelusi'll give a try tonight then03:24
valentin13Checking for GLX_SGIX_fbconfig                  : passed03:24
Angelus:p03:24
valentin13Checking for GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap        : passed03:24
valentin13Checking for non power of two texture support   : passed03:24
valentin13Checking maximum texture size                   : passed (4096x4096)03:24
valentin13my beryl is not working03:24
sehestdin: LOL I have valentin13 on my ignore list for a day now03:24
marcus_hi all, does anyone know of linuXexploit_crew and damage they may cause?03:24
stdinvalentin13: use the pastebin to paste large posts03:24
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Angeluscause i can only download torrents after 23:00 sehe03:24
valentin13sehe behave kid head03:25
Angeluscause my isp have a limit, 12GB per 30 days, if i go over that my connection gets monitored03:25
valentin13i am not your best friend03:25
Angelusbut the limit doesnt count beetween 23:00 and 07:0003:25
seheAngelus: nice. rush hour :)03:25
Angelusi wish i could download 24hours03:26
Angeluslol03:26
sehemarcus_: sounds horrific :) doesn't ring a bell03:26
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seheAngelus: you can - it'll probably cost a bit more I hope03:26
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BluesKajAngelus & sehe , I was pointing out that ktorrent is superior to utorrent on Kubuntu ..and we encourage ppl here to use Linux applications when possibble ...we don't encourage using windows apps despite the fact that wine is available03:26
marcus_mmmm put the wind up me, some vandals from brazil03:26
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sehemarcus_: I'm sorry, that is gibberish to me03:27
AngelusBluesKaj:  i know dude, but you were like getting emotional about it03:27
Angelus:/03:27
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MilhousePunkRocksehe: Pinning cdparanoia was a piece of cake with the wiki article you (?) linked me...03:27
marcus_put the wind up me ( australian for scared me a lot)03:27
BluesKajoh really Angelus , are you a psychiatrist ?03:27
seheBluesKaj: And I think the more relevant point is that we were investigating performance; the tools are a given.03:27
sehemarcus_: ah sure... i'm Dutch you know :D03:28
Angelusno BluesKaj lol03:28
marcus_lol03:28
Angelusdoesn't matter , you got mad at me :/03:28
seheAngelus: you don't know that, because you'd have to be psychic then03:28
marcus_p'raps I should be asking an ubuntu crew, even though i use kubuntu03:28
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BluesKajmad? , just giving advice03:29
Angelusyou were like "do miss that windows so much ? then have fun with it!!"03:29
AngelusO_O03:29
Angelusthats givint advive?03:29
Angelus:o03:29
Angelus*advice03:29
seheAngelus: BluesKaj: it is obvious that words have been misinterpreted,. The truth is in the middle. Drop it?03:29
valentin13glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"03:29
valentin13direct rendering: Yes03:29
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marcus_sehew, I need to find the file that the logs of attempted passwords are filed03:29
sehe(*** or perhaps research the usage of /query... ***)03:29
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Angelusok  ok03:30
custardspewerhello, how to install fusion-icon in kubuntu03:30
sehemarcus_: you cannot see  the attempted passwords themselves (for obvious security reasons)03:30
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sehemarcus_:  but the auth log is in /var/log/auth.log03:30
valentin13glxgears03:30
seheCheers everyone, I'm having one myself03:30
marcus_sehe, yes, but I am wondering about floods filling my hdd03:30
marcus_ty m803:31
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valentin13sehe is a virtual computer or an humans03:31
sehemarcus_: floods? you mean something is physically filling the drive space?03:31
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marcus_this is my fear after google searching this group of nasties03:31
sehemarcus_: use any 'du' - like tool to see *where* it accumulating (sudo du -sh /*)03:31
marcus_ty, I shall return03:32
sehemarcus_: or use kdirstat03:32
sehe!info kdirstat | marcus_03:32
ubotumarcus_: kdirstat: graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4-3 (feisty), package size 272 kB, installed size 880 kB03:32
marcus_brilliant thank you, I now have a lead03:32
sehemarcus_: once you find the file(s)/dir(s), you can find the process responsible using 'lsof'03:32
Angelussehe: if i use ktorrent, will i be able to continue downloading my torrents from when utorrent left? or i have to start over:/ ?03:32
seheAngelus: i suppose so. torrent is quite an open 'protocol'03:33
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stdinAngelus: ktorrent can import partially complete downloads03:33
Angelusah ok03:33
Angelusgood03:33
seheAngelus: just try it on a backup copy of the torrent dir :D03:33
sehemarcus_: on another note, how do you suspect 'intruders' are coming in?03:34
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Angelussehe im gona jump to something else, i wanna copy a dvd with AVI files, what type of project should i choose from K3B?03:35
marcus_sehe I was researching a chinese classic book, and I recieved a black page saying I had been hacked by this group03:35
sehe!find k9 | Angelus03:36
ubotuangelus: Found: libpisock9, k9copy, libmagick9, libmagick9-dev03:36
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sehek9copy should do the job i think03:36
Angelusk9copy is for ISO03:36
Angelus:/03:36
Angelusthey are AVI Files03:36
Angelusim trying to copy a series03:36
seheAngelus: really... that's not what i remember03:36
AngelusDigimon Season 103:36
Angelus:p03:36
sehe!info k9copy | sehe03:36
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stdinAngelus: devede can turn avi in to a dvd03:36
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Angelussehe: and its not 1 avi file, they are an avi file every episode03:37
Angelusso i must burn multiple avi's on 1 dvd03:37
Angelusis it a data project?03:37
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sehesry, i have to throw in the towel here :) (I don't burn, i'll have plenty time for that after i die)03:38
BluesKaj!tovid03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
kondeDrakulanyone know if i can share 2 pc with usb cable ?03:38
Angelusok03:38
Angelusgonna ask my fathr03:39
BluesKajTovid is worth checking out for transcoding avi to dvd03:39
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marcus_sehe, I have forgotten how to use irc properly, but I was taken to a web page which is accessable through google search, saying linuXploit_crew had hacked my system03:40
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sehemarcus_:  ok... unknown to me, and google doesn't know it either03:41
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sehekondeDrakul: in principle yes. It is not too common03:42
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sparrmy tablet PC has a serial connection for its wacom tablet screen that Just Works thanks to wacomdrv and discover(?) voodoo.  but it stops working when the computer hibernates (suspend to disk?).  i am hoping this can be fixed by re-initializing the serial connection.  any ideas or suggestions?03:42
sehekondeDrakul: perhaps try to google for 'usb null-modem'03:42
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kondeDrakulsehe , what is null- modem?03:42
Angelussehe: do you know a program that is able to convert from avi to mpeg2?03:42
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urlihola03:42
sehekondeDrakul: it is what you wnat03:42
sehekondeDrakul: it is what you want03:42
urlialguien habla espalol03:42
sehekondeDrakul: it is a direct serial link03:42
sehe!es03:42
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:42
kondeDrakulsehe ok03:43
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seheAngelus: not directly. I'd have to search03:43
Angelushm03:43
Angelusmaybe nero linux03:43
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seheAngelus: ok now you are inviting BluesKaj to jump on you (rightfully this time)03:43
Angeluslol03:43
Angeluswhy ?03:43
AngelusO_o03:43
Angelusnero linux is for linux03:44
marcus_sehe, if I gavve you the url, would you be interested in giving me your opinion?03:44
Angelusnot a windows app03:44
Angelus:o03:44
stdinAngelus: nero for linux is poor quality and has few features at all03:44
Angelusoh03:44
Angelusi see03:44
seheit is a very weird suggestion showing that you don't appreciate the vast availability of higher qualitity tools in linux *especially* on encoding, recoding, decoding and ripping03:44
seheAngelus: *i know it's not a win app* it just shows a non-gnu, non-kde background :D03:45
Angelussehe: is just that i dont know of any other tools then k9copy and k3b03:45
Angelus:S03:45
sparrAngelus: mplayer/mencoder03:45
seheAngelus: i'd just sit down and search synaptic for 'avi', 'mpeg' en 'recode'03:45
Angelusok03:45
Angeluslol03:45
stdins/synaptic/adept/03:45
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BluesKajAngelus , check out " Tovid "...it has both cli and gui capabilities and works very well.03:46
Angelusok thanks BluesKaj03:46
Angelus:p03:46
custardspewerhello, how to install fusion-icon in kubuntu03:46
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sehestdin: i'm suggesing synaptics because it will find more packages? (not too sure)03:46
urlihola03:46
urlicomo estan todos03:46
stdinsehe: no03:46
urlialguien habla espaol03:46
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sehe!es03:47
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:47
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sehestdin: ok i must have misinterpreted my first experiences (first day of ubuntu :D))03:47
sparrcan kde shade a window, unshade it on hover, and *NOT* re-shade it when i click something in the window?03:47
stdinsehe: they both search the same repositories03:47
elpezhello... how do i know which is my current kde version?03:48
BluesKajAngelus, there's tovid chat on freenode as well , altho not always full of ppl they are very helpful if you can catch them :)03:48
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stdinelpez: open any KDE app, Help > About KDE03:48
elpezthanx03:48
GoodHabitHello. I need a help. I have internet vith PPTP VPN. I have cofigured in terminal, but looking for GUI for VPN. I found KVPNC, it works, but only latest version of offsite. Where can i get a package or can somebody cr8 it from sources? Help please.03:49
marcus_sehe ;  ht*p:/www.swop4g.org/ is the page concerned, I would value your opinion03:49
Angelushope its not big03:49
Angeluscause there's only source code03:49
Angelusand my pc compiles slow03:49
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marcus_oops http:/w*w.swop4g.org/03:50
sehemarcus_: i c. the page is there... when do you get it?03:51
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marcus_this afternoon, about 8 hours ago03:51
marcus_was searching info about a book03:52
sehemarcus_: what was the action that brought the page?03:52
seheok. in google web search or ?03:52
marcus_I was searching fo a classic chinese book03:52
marcus_yes03:52
marcus_google03:52
seheok - this probably *does* mean that someone has been hacked, but most likely *not you*03:52
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seheIt is likely that you clicked a google result, that sent you to a website, that has been hacked03:53
marcus_mmm this is good news for me, do you mean that if I was hacked i would not have been presented with the page?03:53
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sehemarcus_: no, i just mean that the page is not on your machine (i can access it), so there is reason (imho) to assume that something *on your system* must have sent you there03:54
sehemarcus_: if some website sends you there, it'll just be *shown* in the browser, no harm done03:54
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marcus_thank you sehe, and I am pleased to have met you and visited this room for the first time, I shall come again and look forward to saying hi once again, peace and good will to you m8 :-)03:55
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sehemarcus_: anytime03:56
marcus_:-) b4n03:56
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BluesKajmarcus_,that site looks like a sick joke , to get google users worried03:56
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seheBluesKaj: I'd be worried if that page replaced my homepage LOL03:57
BluesKajno kidding03:57
BluesKajprolly some antilinux MS windows guys :)03:58
seheBluesKaj: dunno, don't see much reason to conclude that. For once we don't know the exact chain of links that led to the page.03:59
seheBluesKaj: It is very possible that some person's linux-hosted website *got* compromised, and redirects to the page03:59
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seheBluesKaj: the page (seemingly) being in it's own domain bodes badly for the attack-strength04:00
BluesKajpretty simple html page , no links04:00
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seheBluesKaj: You cannot see *what* redirected to that URL and *how*04:01
seheBluesKaj: no-one can rule out a hacked (win/linux hosted) website in the chain of links04:01
seheBluesKaj: ironically you'd have to hack into swop4g.org's webserver and inspect the log for reerrers hahahah04:02
seheBluesKaj: indulge me04:02
BluesKajprolly a google hackjob04:02
seheBluesKaj: or a prank, like you said - seems if it is a google-ranking-hack that google removed it from the index, as googling for linuXexploit_crew returns nil04:03
sehek guys, my daughter is awake, some nontech attention required04:03
sehecya around04:03
BluesKajthere's a  script that will redirect searches after certain keywords are entered , bringing pages such as that one to the top of googles list04:04
marcus_lol, I thought I had left this room, but am glad to see your follow up opinions...04:04
marcus_ty04:04
marcus_byby sehe04:04
sehemarcus_: see you next time04:04
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marcus_thank you BluesKaj04:04
marcus_I feel relieved04:05
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marcus_all the best from perth australia to you BluesKaj04:05
marcus_by 4 now04:05
BluesKajwell, we have to be vigilant marcus_04:05
marcus_surely04:05
marcus_:-)04:06
BluesKajbye from Ontario Canada04:06
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marcus_be well, and thank you once more :-)04:06
marcus_q04:06
BluesKajhave a good evening :)04:06
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: Ontario is a city? I thought it was a province04:07
GoodHabitCan somebody tell me how to install compiz-fusion on kubuntu? is it possible?04:07
marcus_forgotten irc... lol anyhow bye all... I shall, and you also04:07
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nosrednaekimGoodHabit: yep, its possible.04:07
nosrednaekim!compiz04:07
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:07
BluesKajyup, it is a prov , small town you prolly never heard of in onta rio04:07
stdinGoodHabit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion04:07
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GoodHabitWhere i can find right config for nvidia, with enabled various options?04:11
GoodHabitXorg.conf i mean.04:11
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Angelustmp/ccAcQwBL.s: Assembler messages:04:12
Angelus/tmp/ccAcQwBL.s:59: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `ldmxcsr'04:12
Angelus04:12
Angeluswhats this error?04:12
nosrednaekimGoodHabit: #ubuntu-effects04:13
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MarkChow do you change the kmenu icon?04:27
MilhousePunkRockMarkC: Replace the icon in /usr/share/icons/default.kde/<needed size>/kmenu.png04:28
MarkCthanks.04:29
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MilhousePunkRockMarkC: And watch the permissions, needs to be readable for everyon04:29
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ricardohi04:40
ricardoi really need help04:40
nosrednaekimask away04:41
ricardoi installe kubuntu yesterday, and cuz im kinda curios i started to see the partition configuration04:41
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ricardoand i cant access a partition that is really important to me04:41
ricardoi tried to fix it, but it say that i cant use that partition point, or things like that04:42
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nosrednaekimricardo: ok, is this a windows partition?04:42
ricardoyes..its a ntfs04:42
nosrednaekimricardo: and you can't see it when you browse in konqueror to "/media"?04:43
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ricardoi can, but i cant access to it, and it looks like a disk but without the green thing and i cant mount it04:44
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ricardowhen i tried to mount it appear a box saying mount: el dispositivo especial /dev/disk/by-label/sda1 no existe04:45
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rafelhallo ricardo04:46
nosrednaekimricardo: try this run "kdesu konqueror" and then go to /media and try to mount it04:46
nosrednaekimricardo: excuse me, but what does "dispositivo" mean?04:46
nosrednaekimI got the rest of the error04:46
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stdinnosrednaekim: device04:47
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ricardoits working thanks ... thanks so much....its mean a lot to me...my work its there.04:48
ricardothanks04:48
ricardobut i have to do it everytime i start the pc?04:48
nosrednaekimricardo: you just ran that konqueror as root user... onl he has permissions to that device.04:49
nosrednaekimricardo: also notice that you cannot write to that partitions04:49
MilhousePunkRockricardo: Check the fstab entry for the windows drive...04:49
MilhousePunkRock!ntfs3g | ricardo04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:50
MilhousePunkRock!ntfs | ricardo04:50
uboturicardo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:50
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ricardoyes i cant write on them04:50
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MilhousePunkRock!ntfs-3g | ricardo04:50
uboturicardo: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:50
stdin!ntfs-3g04:50
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ricardoi tried to install ntfs 3g but i cant cuz i dont have some libraries, im new on kubuntu04:51
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stdinricardo: you install it with adept04:51
MilhousePunkRockricardo: That is some reading to do, but in the end, your windows partition will just be another folder...04:51
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ricardoyes i use adep and konsole to install it04:52
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milosmarichi, how can I upgrade from Edgy to Feity from DVD?04:53
MilhousePunkRockstdin: Does ntfs-3g depend on something from multiverse?04:53
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milosmaricI have slow internet conection, so i can't download more than few MB04:53
MilhousePunkRockmilosmaric: I think if you boot from the DVD, one of the options is upgrade system04:53
stdinMilhousePunkRock: I don't think so04:54
stdinMilhousePunkRock: or else it wouldn't be in main04:54
milosmaricI've tried it, but it gives me only the option to instal whole sistem04:54
MilhousePunkRockstdin: Why would ricardo fail to install it then?04:54
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stdinMilhousePunkRock: without the apt-get/dpkg output I can't say04:55
MilhousePunkRockmilosmaric: Else you can add the DVD to your sources.list and do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" I think04:55
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sparri think i have finally found my first preference for gnome over kde...  accessibility options, vis a vis on screen keyboard, are much more available04:55
ricardoso what cant i do?04:55
stdinmilosmaric: you put the DVD in and mount it, then do: kdesu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade04:56
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stdinmilosmaric: actually it needs to be gksu, so you need to install that04:56
ricardoyes gnome is more easy to use04:56
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nosrednaekimsparr: there is a kde keyboard for that... forget what its called04:57
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nosrednaekimricardo: do you want write ability to that partition?04:58
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hambobohow do i delete ubuntu from my computer04:59
sparrnosrednaekim: i cant find it, either04:59
sparrnosrednaekim: best ive found is xvkbd04:59
ricardoit would be great cuz its a big partition and have a lot of free space05:00
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nosrednaekimsparr: that may be it...05:00
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nosrednaekimricardo: hmm ok. you id try to install ntfs=-3g right?05:00
ricardoyes05:00
nosrednaekimdid you try to follow any tutorial?05:01
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ricardoyes forma  page that i found on google and from ubuntu page...but it still saying that i dont have some libraries05:02
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ricardomaybe if i install the libraries but i dont know where to find it to install them05:02
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nosrednaekimricardo: you are running 7.04 right?05:03
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ricardoyes 7.0405:03
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Arwenisn't that just apt-get install ntfs-3g?05:03
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rayluricardo, what are you trying to do?05:05
martijn81kai!05:05
milosmaricstdin: when I enter that (with correct patf to DVD) i get this message:05:05
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milosmaricX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15405:06
milosmaric  Major opcode:  14305:06
milosmaric  Minor opcode:  305:06
milosmaric  Resource id:  0x005:06
nosrednaekim!paste05:06
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milosmaricFailed to open device05:06
rayludon't worry about that, milosmaric05:06
nosrednaekim!x error05:06
milosmaricX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15405:06
milosmaric  Major opcode:  14305:06
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:06
milosmaric  Minor opcode:  305:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
milosmaric  Resource id:  0x005:06
nosrednaekimricardo: when does it report the missing libraries?05:06
milosmaricFailed to open device05:06
milosmariccan't load DistUpgradeViewGtk (No module named pygtk)05:06
milosmaricX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15405:06
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milosmaric  Major opcode:  14305:06
ricardothis05:06
milosmaric  Minor opcode:  305:07
stdin!paste | milosmaric05:07
ubotumilosmaric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:07
milosmaric  Resource id:  0x005:07
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milosmaricFailed to open device05:07
milosmaricX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15405:07
milosmaric  Major opcode:  14305:07
milosmaric  Minor opcode:  305:07
milosmaric  Resource id:  0x005:07
milosmaricFailed to open device05:07
milosmaricstdin: when I enter that (with correct patf to DVD) i get this message:05:07
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martijn81!pastebin | milosmaric05:07
ricardoCreando rbol de dependencias05:07
ricardoLeyendo informacin de estado... Hecho05:07
ricardoTal vez quiera ejecutar `apt-get -f install' para corregirlo:05:07
ricardoLos siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:05:07
ricardo  j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Depende: j2re1.4 pero no va a instalarse05:07
ricardo  odesk: Depende: libssl0.9.7 pero no va a instalarse05:07
ricardoE: Dependencias incumplidas. Intente 'apt-get -f install' sin paquetes (o especifique una solucin).05:07
milosmaricstdin, raylu: yes, but program won't start05:07
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milosmaricstdin: when I enter that (with correct patf to DVD) i get this message:05:07
raylu...05:07
martijn81!pastebin | ricardo05:07
uboturicardo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:07
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milosmaricvrong message :)05:07
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nosrednaekimricardo: ok, do you have all your repositories enabled?05:07
stdinmilosmaric: do not paste large posts here05:08
raylumilosmaric, what command are you using?05:08
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ricardoi dont know...how i can see that?05:08
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milosmaricraylu: gksu sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade05:08
nosrednaekimricardo: open up adept_manager-> adept->manage repositories05:08
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rayluhrm; afk, sorry :P no idea what's wrong05:09
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milosmaricstdin, raylu: after that command I get that large message, and program won't start05:09
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hambobohow do i remove ubuntu (can question mark..)05:09
stdinmilosmaric: apparently you need "python-gtk2" too05:09
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milosmaricstdin: ok, i'll instal it05:10
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ricardoi will restart my pc cuz its slow...and my connection star to fail..ill be back in 5 min05:10
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nosrednaekimok05:10
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hambobohow do i remove ubuntu05:11
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nosrednaekimhambobo: just don't use it :)05:11
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hambobomy parent dunno how to select window xp05:12
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nosrednaekimhambobo: oh.. you want to restore the windows bootloader?05:12
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hamboboi guess05:12
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stdinkai: having connection issues ?05:13
malcolmbanyone know how I can change my system tray from displaying a single row of items to the way the quick launcher displays them?05:13
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nosrednaekimhambobo: can you get into windows?05:14
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hamboboyea but i dont like the automatic boot of ubuntu05:14
nosrednaekimmalcolmb: make the panel just a little bit higher I think.05:14
nosrednaekimhambobo: oh.. it doesn't show you an option to get into windows?05:14
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hamboboit does05:15
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malcolmbnosrednaekim: thanks'05:15
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milosmaricstdin: I again got the same message05:16
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nosrednaekimhambobo: ok... so you want it to automatically boot windows instead? and give an option for ubuntu?05:16
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hamboboyea05:16
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GoodHabithambobo: Ur problem is solved?05:17
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_Shade_how do i use strigi? just playing around with gutsy and have no idea how does it work?05:17
hambobonot really05:17
Palican i use in kopete thunderbird contact list (no kaddressbook)?05:17
ricardoim back05:17
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nosrednaekimhambobo: ok, just a secon.. thats pretty easy to do05:17
hambobothanks05:17
ricardonosrednaekim: i have to do the same to mount the ntfs partition that you help me to mount05:18
nosrednaekimricardo: what?05:18
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GoodHabithambobo: In file /boot/grub/menu.lst u need to count tittle's. If windows is x, so change  default   to      x-105:19
GoodHabitSo^05:19
GoodHabitTittle Windows is 5th05:19
nosrednaekimhambobo: run this command "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"05:19
GoodHabitSo u must set default option in that file to 405:19
hambobok05:19
GoodHabitThat's all05:19
ricardoremember that u help me to mount a ntfs partition....with the konqueror as a root....well to mount it again i had to do the same05:19
nosrednaekimGoodHabit: but if he updates his kernel.. it will change the numbers all around.05:20
ricardoand i cant access as a normal konqueror05:20
nosrednaekimricardo: ah.. right.. ok05:20
volni can't see partition with winxp in my kubuntu...Where can I get it?05:20
ekrengelis there a way to have a window open up on a certain spot on your screen everytime you open it?05:20
ekrengellike if i opened a terminal window05:20
ekrengelto have it in the same place everytime05:20
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GoodHabitvoln: What FS have that partition?05:21
nosrednaekimricardo: so... you need to enable all the repositories05:21
volnntfs05:21
ricardohow i do that?05:21
GoodHabit$sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g05:21
GoodHabitand enjoy )05:21
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pulaskigood morning all05:21
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hamboboi probably did update kernal05:22
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_Shade_can i purge old kernel header package if i installed the new kernel?05:22
volni thought that was without this apps...05:22
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nosrednaekimricardo: its in adeptpackage manager05:22
ben__hi05:23
nosrednaekim_Shade_: yes, you can05:23
Palican i use in kopete thunderbird contact list (no kaddressbook)?05:23
nosrednaekimPali: don't think so... but there is a way to import your thunderbird contact list into kaddressbook05:23
ricardowhere...i open adept but i dont know whre05:24
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hambobonosrednaekim: i put the command in but it says password, is it my password for getting on ubuntu05:24
nosrednaekimhambobo: yeah05:24
valentin13hello room05:24
hambobothanks05:24
valentin13frenchy is back05:24
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hambobolol05:24
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hambobonot round..05:24
hambobofound*05:24
Palinosrednaekim: i use thunderbird and i wont synchronize icq,aim, foto, ... to my contacts05:25
nosrednaekimhambobo: whats not found?05:25
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hambobothat command05:25
valentin13i wish to go in french room  how i  make05:25
ubuntu_crap! i'm trying to install kubuntu for all the day and always have GRUB INSTALL (hda0) FAILED... i'm bagging for help!05:25
nosrednaekimricardo: inside adept, on the menubar adept-> manage repositories05:25
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stdinubuntu_: (hd0) not (hda0)05:25
milosmaricstdin: I added DVD to repositor. and now I'm upgradeing it. It said that it will use 400+MB for instalatio, is that good?05:25
ubuntu_stdin: yes hd005:26
ubuntu_sry05:26
nosrednaekimvalentin13: typr this in " /join #ubuntu-fr"05:26
valentin13ty05:26
stdinmilosmaric: sounds normal05:26
nosrednaekimhambobo: what command?05:26
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pulaskiI need to find the approprate file to add dir to my $PATH variable so it is effective when I open an xterm.  The man bash Invocation section is confusing. Does anyone know what file kubuntu 7.04 uses for this purpose?05:26
ricardook then what should i do...i found it05:27
milosmaricsrdin: ok, I'll tell you is it working when it winish, thanks any way :)05:27
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ubuntu_always on 94% same FATAL ERROR; what am i supposed to do ? :|05:27
hambobokdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst05:27
volnafter installation ntfs-3g can I move files bigger that 4 ggb to winxp?05:27
nosrednaekimricardo: there should be a list of repositories, check them all, except for "sources"05:27
Palinosrednaekim: exist module for kaddressbook for use .mab type? (Kaddressbook use vcf and binary)05:27
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nosrednaekimPali: just export the thunderbird one to vcard and import it into kaddressbook05:28
ricardothe 2 list are empty...05:28
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nosrednaekimhambobo: are you running kubuntu or ubuntu?05:28
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hamboboubuntu05:28
ubuntu_can someone help me with that 'grub install (hd0) failed' ??05:29
nosrednaekimhambobo: support for that is on #ubuntu. but lol.. its ok. run "gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"05:29
Palinosrednaekim: and extension for thunderbird, use vcf file?05:29
ubuntu_i'm using kub. for a long time but this is first time when i'm receiving such alert05:29
nosrednaekimPali: I guess05:29
ricardothe list of repositories is empty...how can i fill it?05:30
hambobohow do i go to the ubuntu channel05:30
nosrednaekimricardo: no, just the first tab that says "Kubuntu software"05:30
ricardook05:30
nosrednaekimhambobo: "/join #ubuntu"05:30
hambobooh05:30
ricardowhat i do there?...05:31
nosrednaekimhambobo: but don't bother.. I can help you here05:31
pulaskiCan I set up ~/.profile and add a line like "$PATH=~/bin export" and merely add the dir to the value of my existing $PATH variable?05:31
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nosrednaekimricardo: check all the boxes05:31
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hamboboi cant use the number sign..05:31
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ricardook... then?05:31
nosrednaekimhambobo: don't worry about it. I can help you here... just for future note.05:31
hambobook05:31
nosrednaekimhambobo: so did you run that command?05:32
hamboboyea05:32
hambobobut it so confusing05:32
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nosrednaekimricardo: now, on the main page of adept, run "update"05:32
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nosrednaekimhambobo: :)05:32
edemilsoncomo acessar o canal , irc brasil?05:33
stdin!br05:33
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:33
ubuntu_can someone help at last or not?! :] 05:33
nosrednaekimhambobo: scroll down until you don't see anymore # signs.05:33
nosrednaekimubuntu05:33
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nosrednaekimI guess not05:33
ricardook05:33
_Shade_does gutsy have compiz-fusion on its repos, or just the older version?05:33
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ubuntu_didn't u hav a grub install failed fatal error ?05:33
nosrednaekimit has compiz-fusion05:33
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bagolightciao a tutti05:34
bagolightbye05:34
ricardothen it should work? right?05:34
_Shade_nosrednaekim: so all you have to do to get it work is to install compiz-kde, right?05:34
nosrednaekimhambobo: somewhere down there there should be a section entitled "windows" or such.05:34
nosrednaekim_Shade_: I guess...05:34
nosrednaekimdunno really05:34
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pulaskiHow can I permanently add ~/bin to my $PATH?05:36
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nosrednaekimpulaski: google it...05:37
nosrednaekimhambobo: see where i'm talking about?05:37
pulaskiok nosrednaekim thank you for responding05:37
hamboboyea05:37
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malqoshi, i  have dell latitude d600 and how i  can configure wifi?knetworkmanager doesnt see any wireless network.i dont know why. when i had windows i just turn on wifi and everything was  ok.what can i do?05:37
nosrednaekimhambobo: ok, now do you see the top ubuntu section?05:38
nosrednaekimshould be just about 10-20 lines about the windows section05:38
hambobo2.6.20- 16- generic05:38
nosrednaekimmalqos: what is the chipset?05:38
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samkornhi -- I'm having trouble booting my kubuntu livecds -- attempting to boot either 32- or 64-bit Feisty or the latest Gutsy tribe release hangs on "Starting Bluetooth Services" --- it just gives "[143.625958]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed."05:39
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_Shade_malqos: have you tried to install ndiswrapper?05:39
hambobosamkorn: did u check cd for defects(question mark)05:39
nosrednaekimhambobo: right... now, grab the wholewindows section, cut it, and paste it  just above that top ubuntu option.05:40
malqosno05:40
malqosi dont have windows05:40
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samkornhambobo: yes -- and checked the MD5 sum before burning the image05:40
malqosi just have ubuntu 7.0405:40
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malqosnosrednaekim: what is chipset?05:40
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samkornhambobo: and I used the 32-bit one successfully on another computer (a desktop rather than a notebook)05:41
nosrednaekimmalqos: run this command "lspci" and pastebin the result.05:41
hambobosamkorn: lol i just a beginner ask nosrednaekim05:41
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srbakerfolks05:42
hambobodo i copy the other OS with windows xp to the top05:42
nosrednaekimsamkorn: file a bug report... that is most definately a bug.05:42
srbakeri'm having some issues with konq05:42
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srbakerit seems to often forget to load CSS05:42
srbakerironically, pretty much reliably forgets to load CSS on planetkde.org05:43
nosrednaekimhambobo: yeah,right above the ubuntu option... not to the very top of the file05:43
srbakerbut in other places less reliavbly05:43
malqosnosrednaekim: how i can put whole this in one line?05:43
nosrednaekimdon't save the file yet though05:43
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nosrednaekim!paste | malqos05:43
ubotumalqos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:43
samkornnosrednaekim: I wonder, because Mandriva also fails to work while Knoppix does (I really want Kubuntu, though...)05:43
BaubalI just installed 6.06 on a Dell Optiplex 745.  Did not detect network card.  Card is a Broadcom 57xx.  What is the easiest way to get the nic working?05:43
nosrednaekimsamkorn: might want to try the alternate installer.05:44
nosrednaekimsamkorn: or use fiesty05:44
nosrednaekim!broadcom05:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:44
srbakeranyone?05:44
malqosnosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35006/05:44
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samkornnosrednaekim: two of my attempts have been Feisty, but I will try the alternate installer05:44
hambobowont let me paste before ubuntu05:45
Baubalnosrednaekim: ya, I am stuck with the broadcom I hate to say05:45
nosrednaekimhambobo: ok.. did that? pastebin the whole file please.05:45
nosrednaekimhambobo: why not?05:45
hamboboi pasted on the empty space after `end defult options`05:46
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nosrednaekimok.... and...05:47
nosrednaekimany error?05:47
hamboboit after ubuntu 2.6.20- 1605:47
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hamboboi`ll just go to ubuntu05:49
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nosrednaekimhambobo: ummm could you pastebin that file please?05:49
nosrednaekimhambobo: no no... they're not going to be able to help you any more than I can with this05:50
hambobopastebin?05:50
nosrednaekim!paste05:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:50
hamboboooh05:51
hambobodid05:51
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KaiHey, I said ban me forever >:(05:51
hambobolol05:51
nosrednaekimhambobo: link to your paste?05:51
malqosnosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35006/-what do you thing about this?05:52
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hambobodo i save the menu.lst05:52
nosrednaekimhambobo: not yet... give me the URL to your paste please05:52
nosrednaekim!broadcom | malqos05:53
ubotumalqos: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:53
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hambobourl..05:53
hamboboor do i paste here05:53
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mb9999Hi all. Question: How do I configure k3b to rip audio cd's as mp3 as opposed to ogg, etc? I have installed liblame etc, but can't seem to find it in the save options05:54
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nosrednaekimhambobo: when you pasted there it gave you a page, copy the website title, or URL05:55
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robewald|homeI got a problem connecting a via wlan. I get arp requests from B to A but the replies from A to B never arrive at B. Iptables is empty and I just don't know where to look05:56
malqosi had to go thanks i will check this later05:56
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stdinmb9999: when you click "Start Ripping" you can choose05:56
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mb9999stdin: Nope. Loads of other options, but not mp305:57
nosrednaekimrobewald|home: arp?05:57
hambobopasted where05:57
nate_hey, so sorry to just jump in and ask questions, but anyways, I have a 1680x1050 (widescreen) monitor, and it won't let me go above 1280x102405:57
nosrednaekim!paste | hambobo05:57
ubotuhambobo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:57
ralphCan someone tell me how to get around the bcm43## microcode errors during boot up? I have read much but it only tells me how to install the driver after I am up and running.05:57
stdinmb9999: have you installed the "lame" package (not just liblame)05:57
nate_when i go into xorg.conf, it has 1680x1050 listed for all color depths, however05:57
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mb9999lame and liblame. It's very strange...05:57
nosrednaekimralph: is it failing to boot?or is it not working?05:57
stdinmb9999: and probably toolame too05:58
nosrednaekimnate_: what driver?05:58
[Ramy] how I can hide my ip on ubuntu ?05:58
nate_ahh yes, drivers05:58
nosrednaekim[Ramy] : from whom>05:58
mb9999hehe05:58
hambobowats syntax for05:58
nosrednaekimhambobo: don't worry about that.05:58
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nosrednaekimthats iff you are posting some kind of program or such05:58
robewald|homenosrednaekim: arp (address resolution protocol) if you use tcpdump -i eth1 then you see your traffic. there you can see the arp packets, so physical connection is OK.05:58
ralphnosredmaekim It is failing to boot. Just keeps throwing the error code.05:58
hambobohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35010/         sorry i so dumb...05:59
mb9999as in the libraries? I'll give it a go (the shotgun approach is always the best :)05:59
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nosrednaekimralph: ok.05:59
nosrednaekimhambobo: its ok :)05:59
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ben__im trying to get windows games to run on linux05:59
[Ramy] nosrednaekim I want to hide it when I use my ADSL, forums, games, and IRC ?05:59
ben__can anyone help please05:59
nosrednaekim[Ramy] : don't think you can do that very easily without going through a proxy05:59
nosrednaekimben__: wine.06:00
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stdinben__: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games06:00
nosrednaekimhambobo: ok.. close that without saving. make sure you don't save it.06:00
ben__it wont work i d/l the game with ktorrent06:01
mb9999stdin: still no joy06:01
nosrednaekimhambobo: and then open it up again and paste it again06:01
hamboboi forgot command06:01
stdinmb9999: have you restarted k3b after installing them ?06:01
ben__wine wont run it06:01
nosrednaekimben__: thats why we have dual boots.06:02
hamboboben_: wine only works with SOME programs(slash)games06:02
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ben__i run dual boot to the game asks for a no cd crack i think i have d/l it but i dont know what to do next06:02
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mb9999yes06:03
mb9999have raw,wav,ogg,amiga(fer christs sake!), etc. No mp3 :(06:03
mb9999I can't use shell commands 'cause it's for my mother - I'm going out of the country again this afternoon for a year...06:04
donatoppp06:04
robewald|homeso is there anything in kubuntu which could block network packets besides iptables?06:04
nosrednaekimrobewald|home: question... is this an atheros chipset?06:04
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ben__ nosr can u help me with trying to get this game to run on xp please?06:05
stdinmb9999: try installing sox, seems that it uses that for some06:05
stdin!windows06:05
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:05
nosrednaekimben__: on XP? no lol. I haven't run XP in over 4 years06:05
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hamboboben_:i have xp i could prbably help u06:06
ben__4 years lol well i dual boot the game wont work here so xp will have to do06:06
mb9999already have.06:06
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hamboboben_: u running xp pro, etc.06:06
ben__hamboo do u use kopte can i add u log into xp and c if u can help?06:06
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hamboboben_: i could download it06:07
ben__wat the game or the patch?06:07
ben__id  rather talk on kopte or messenger lol06:07
hamboboben_: i dunno wat is kopte06:07
hambobou have xfire06:07
ben__messenger on ubuntu mate06:08
hamboboi have gaim06:08
ben__wats xfire?06:08
hambobonvm06:08
ben__thats cool this will work i fink06:08
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mb9999ah well. thanks for trying. I'll mess again in an hour (time permitting)06:08
nosrednaekimhambobo: did you repaste that file?06:08
Angeluswill .deb files for the debian distribution work on kubuntu?06:08
nosrednaekimAngelus: generally, yes06:09
stdinAngelus: some06:09
AngelusOK06:09
Angelusthankz06:09
hamboboi think so06:09
ben__hamboobo wats ya addy?06:09
nosrednaekimhambobo: link please?06:09
hambobok06:09
hambobohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35010/06:09
hamboboben_: i getting kopte06:09
ben__ok mate06:10
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nosrednaekimno no.... your new one... after you closed the file without saving and then repopened it.06:10
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hamboboforgot command06:10
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ben__but im gonna have to reboot to xp anyway to try and get this game working06:10
nosrednaekimhambobo: :) "gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"06:10
eagles0513875ben__:  what game06:10
ben__eagles footbal manager 2007 eagles06:11
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eagles0513875what kind of video card u have06:12
hambobodo i paste the normal men.lst06:12
eagles0513875hambobo: use pastbin06:13
nosrednaekimhambobo: yes06:13
ben__eagles my spec is fine i d/l it of torent i need to replace something with a no cd crack and the game will work.... its that i cant do06:13
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eagles0513875ben__: all you do is copy the crack into the same folder and replace the file that it asks u to replace06:13
saylarhey guys06:13
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hambobohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35017/06:14
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ben__eagles i think i have the crack on my desktop but its not working06:14
martijn81anyone knows what the name is of this K-menu? http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/bianca-2.2/kde/2/12.png06:14
eagles0513875ben__: go to gamecopyworld.com06:14
eagles0513875try there06:15
nosrednaekimhambobo: thats not the whole thing..06:15
ben__thats where i got it mate06:15
eagles0513875ben__: thats interesting06:15
LeeJunFanwhat's the name of the file manager with split view, etc?06:15
Kaiben__ maybe you should pay for the game?06:16
nosrednaekimkonqueror?06:16
KaiBecause that is the moral and legal thing to do maybe?06:16
ben__well i d/l it and it says when i click on it which programme would i like to open it with i have 7 zip and it doesnt do anything] 06:16
nosrednaekimdophin?06:16
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ben__kai why pay when torrent gives it me for nothing06:16
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stdinmartijn81: probably kbfx06:16
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saylari got a problem with my soundcard (creative audigy 2). i had to replace my motherboard with a new one, i'm using the old system and everything is working except the soundcard. any ideas what could cause the problem?06:16
LeeJunFannosrednaekim: no, it was something more like DoPus was on the Amiga.06:16
Kaiben__: Because that is the moral and legal thing to do maybe?06:16
nosrednaekimben__: cause then you don't have to bug us trying to be your support for a game that you didn't buy for an OS we don't like06:17
ben__dnt be silly its immoral the ammount they charge06:17
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Kaiben__: How is it immoral to charge high prices? You don't need the game06:17
jason__10hello fellow ubuntus06:17
jason__10Does any one know how to test the fan on my laptop?06:17
ben__maybe not immoral just damn greedy06:18
JCDGin the bios, you can see if the fan is working06:18
jason__10excellent, thanks mate06:18
jason__10brb06:18
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nosrednaekimhambobo: I need the WHOLE menu.lst... not just that part.06:18
Kaiben__: All the people involved in the development and publishing of the game are greedy?06:19
JCDGu'r welcome06:19
hambobooops..06:19
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Kaiben__: Or do some of them actually deserve to get paid for their work?06:19
hambobohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35019/06:19
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ben__kai im guessing your some kind of programmer well i love torrent it stops me having topay for anythng06:20
stdinben__: discussion of illegal activities is not permitted in this channel, take it elsewhere.06:20
ben__films games06:20
nosrednaekimhambobo: ok thanks :)06:20
hamboboi don like torrents06:20
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uncoolguyanybody know why in my hardware profile it would say that my laptop is a desktop?06:21
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LeeJunFannosrednaekim: krusader - the filemanager I was trying to remember.06:21
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nosrednaekimahhh.. ok06:22
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wastedfluidhi guys.  I need to run "modprobe ndiswrapper" on startup at root level.. where can I put that?  apparently, .kde/autostart is user level06:22
uncoolguyI have several devices that are not working, (i.e. webcam, audio, not sure display adapter is working properly, as I can't find where to change the resolution) and was wondering if maybe there was some connection06:22
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uncoolguyalso, beryl isn't working06:24
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uncoolguyI can't change desktops06:24
nosrednaekimhambobo: ok, backspace EVRYTHING in that file and paste the contents of this into it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35020/06:24
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jason__10hello im back, no fan infomation on my bios unfortunately06:25
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jason__10i have a silver laptop and theres a darkened mark on the casing i think its due to heat, i dont over heat but i dont think the fan is running. Any help? ive tried modprobe fan06:26
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nosrednaekimjason__10: no clue.06:26
nosrednaekimjason__10: is it a dell?06:26
jason__10nope its an advent06:26
nosrednaekimoh,06:26
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jason__10Is there a way to test the fan in linux?06:27
wastedfluidjason__10: I don't know bud.  I have a silver laptop, and I have a darkened spot from where I took a sticker off.  Did you remove a sticker or anything?06:27
nosrednaekimhambobo: did that?06:27
hamboboyea06:28
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jason__10wastedfluid:  nope, but it is developing to a larger mark gradually, it might be from where my hand rests, but it does feel like a hot spot if you know what i mean06:28
hambobobut it shows the number 106:28
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wastedfluiddude06:28
nosrednaekimhambobo: what does?06:28
wastedfluidnow that you mention it, it's also where my right hand rests.. lol06:28
JCDGhttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/06:28
jason__10same lol06:28
wastedfluidit's EXACTLY where my right hand rests..06:28
hambobohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35023/06:28
jason__10lol06:29
wastedfluidWell, my laptop is not hot right there..06:29
wastedfluidThe only two spots I'd imagine it can pretty hot is going to be your processor, and your harddrive..06:29
wastedfluidIs it hot underneath that spot?06:29
jason__10i have no evidence of a run running tho it doesn't overheat. I am concerned tho06:29
wastedfluidIt's cool to the touch where my 'dark spot' is.06:29
Slikehi, is there a way not to show connected usb drives on the desktop?06:29
jason__10lol06:29
wastedfluidI wouldn't be, if it's not warm to the touch where it's getting 'dark'06:29
wastedfluidinstall lm sensors..06:29
nosrednaekimhambobo: thats after you pasted?06:29
wastedfluidand grab a reading from that.06:29
jason__10Slike:  Usually my drives pop up automaticlly06:30
dapjerhi all i hope some one can help me( ive bought an entire new pc without OS but i boot the install cd (5.10) it runs and suddenly stops and says at the end (0)"kenel panic" trie to kill idle or so06:30
hambobou said backspace everything06:30
nosrednaekimhambobo: oh... thats the only thing that wouldn't backspace?06:30
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jason__10dapjer:  I would reccomend using a different boot cd06:30
hambobothere was nothing after i backspaced but when i pasted..06:30
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dapjerwith one its a p406:30
dapjerpentium 406:30
nosrednaekimhambobo: thats the only thing that pasted?06:31
dapjerjason__1006:31
jason__10dapjer:  I would try and use the latest Kubuntu or Ubuntu release, Feisty Fawn06:31
dapjeri also tried 6.0606:31
jason__10feisty is 7.0406:31
jason__10i think06:31
hambobotrue06:31
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dapjeri know but i dont have a install cd of that06:31
Slikejason__10: i'd like to prevent that behaviour, I don't wish to see any device on my desktop06:31
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jason__10Slike:  oh I see06:31
nosrednaekimhambobo: odd odd odd...06:32
nosrednaekimhambobo: gedit may be having "problems"06:32
wastedfluidslike; if you supply a mount point for the device, it won't appear on your desktop.06:32
jason__10Slike:  you using Kubuntu?06:32
nosrednaekimhambobo: close that document without saving.06:32
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Slikekubuntu 7.04 (as a kind of a test....i'm more into gnome generally spoken)06:32
nosrednaekimhambobo: and then run "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" in the command line06:32
jason__10Slike: go into system settings and choose behaviour, under behavior there is a tab for Device icons, untick the ones you want06:32
jason__10Mounted removable medium!06:33
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hamboboit says a warning after i put the command06:33
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jason__10Slike:  let me know if it work06:34
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hambobohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35024/06:34
sumonhi06:35
jason__10does anyone here know any IRC vulnerabilities? sometimes I worry about being hacked. ONce I was using XChat and i was being kicked with a message "expolited client"06:35
jason__10hi sumon06:35
jason__10whats up06:35
sumonhi, just testing my internet connection06:35
jason__10lol well done it work06:36
jason__10I love using Kubuntu, im sort of obsessed with Linux.06:36
sumonha ha, no man... all my tools ate working exept the browser and rss reader06:36
nosrednaekimhambobo: dunno... just close it and run that second command I just gave you06:36
jason__10Im sort of in a dream at the moment of starting my own company doing remote support, although Im still studying. Any body interested in helping?06:36
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sumonjust configured the internet connection06:36
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jason__10ahh sumon your browser isn't working?06:37
sumonwhat kind of company?06:37
jason__10sumon:  a remote support company06:37
sumonya, jason, i am using kubuntu06:37
jason__10sumon: how long have you been using linux?06:37
sumonremort support? technical?06:37
jason__10yea06:37
jason__10Aimed at home users, windows and ubuntu distros06:38
nosrednaekim!off-topic06:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
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nosrednaekim!offtopic06:38
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:38
jason__10nosrednaekim:  oh yeah sorry,06:38
sumoni used to use redhat 5, then have been in and out with linux, i am a pro user, but used windows as primary06:38
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nosrednaekimhambobo: you do that?06:38
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Slikethx jason__10, they're gone now :)06:39
hambobouh06:39
nosrednaekimhambobo: sorry this is taking so long... I've never had to do this before06:39
jason__10Slike:  Thanks 10 points to me!06:39
hambobono worries i know how hard it is06:39
hambobowell i did do gksu06:39
sumonanyone has any idea, why my konqueror is not findin internet connection?06:39
nosrednaekimhambobo: close gedit, then run, from a terminal "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"06:39
Slikejason__10, you should change your nickname to jason__20 then :P06:40
sumonalso mr Akregator is doing same06:40
jason__10Slike:  I like to help, if you have any other probs you'd like to solve, maybe I can test remote connection with you06:40
jason__10lol06:40
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uncoolguy"sudo nano /boot/grub/men.2nd" "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.3rd06:40
uncoolguyhehe06:40
sumonbut everything else is ok06:40
BaubalI need to apt-get install a package from an Ubuntu 6.06 CD, whats the line in sources.list that I need to add? :)  (need to install make package to compile ethernet driver)06:40
Arweninsert the CD, type "apt-cdrom"06:41
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BaubalArwen: ty kindly06:41
Slikeok, thanks jason__10. kde has changed quite a lot since the 2.x series :p06:41
uncoolguykdizzle foshizzle06:41
sumonhello...06:41
jason_20Slike: to be honest I havnt been using it that much, but im going along with Linuses word thats KDE is better06:42
jason_20sumon:  you still there06:42
sumonya06:42
sumoni am thinking, i am connected with PPP over gprs06:42
jason_20sumon:  did you get any of my Personal messages?06:43
sumonbut my browser is not getting net connection06:43
sumonpersonal?06:43
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sumonnope06:43
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jason_20firefox?06:43
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jason_20sumon: well I was gonna say email me jaybyers@aol.com if you wanna talk off topic later06:43
sumonok sure06:43
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sumoni am unregistered, so they are not allowing private messages06:44
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nosrednaekimhambobo: got that?06:44
jason_20oh i see06:44
stdinjason_20: you do know that you just broadcast your email address to the channel and also this channel is logged on the www?06:44
hambobok06:44
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sumonha ha06:44
Angeluscan anyone tell me again how can i specify Gentoo-like cflags in a source code?06:45
sumonjason_20 is doomed06:45
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nosrednaekimhambobo: ok, backspace that whole file again in nano :)06:45
jason_20sumon:  its ok i have loads of email accounts lol06:45
BaubalArwen: apt-cdrom worked like a charm.  Just wanted to say thank you :)06:45
BluesKajdin't think ppl still still used AOHell :)06:45
jason_20and not too many idiots look through the ubuntu logs06:45
stdinjason_20: it's crawled by google :p06:46
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sumonjason_20 count the bots06:46
AngelusBluesKaj: do you know how to specify Cflags in a source code?06:46
hydrogenAngelus: its an environment variable06:46
sumoni write bots for a living06:46
hydrogenthat make looks for06:46
Angelusi want to compile -O3 -march=athlon-xp -pipe06:46
sumonbots can do anything06:46
Angelushow am i gonna do that? hydrogen?06:47
hydrogenor you can pass it to gcc on the command line06:47
ArwenAngelus, um... -O3? why?06:47
BluesKajAngelus, nope , dunno what Cflags are :(06:47
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jason_20sumon: really?> thats cool, i spoke to a bot for a while the other day, i think it exploited me :(06:47
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jason_20sumon: I was testing it to see what its purpose was06:47
Angelusdo you know how hydrogen06:47
Arwen-O3 takes longer to compile than -O2 and runs slower :-\06:47
sumonhe he06:48
ArwenAngelus, export CFLAGS = blah blah blah06:48
Angelusah06:48
Angeluspl06:48
Angelus*OK06:48
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sumonbut i never wrote bad bots06:48
nosrednaekimhambobo: did that?06:48
jason_20sumon:  are you using FIrefox as a broswer?06:48
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eeveedoes anyone know how to get feisty fawn to be more laptop battery-friendly?06:49
AngelusAngelus@Darkness:~/Desktop/samba-3.0.25c/source$ export CFLAGS = -O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe06:49
Angelusbash: export: `=': not a valid identifier06:49
Angelusbash: export: `-O2': not a valid identifier06:49
Angelusbash: export: `-march=athlon-xp': not a valid identifier06:49
Angelusbash: export: `-pipe': not a valid identifier06:49
hydrogenno spaces...06:49
stdin!paste06:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:49
hydrogenadd quotes..06:49
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sparrwhen my computer returns from standby i am prompted for my password.  how can i disable that, OR how can i run an onscreen keyboard when that happens (i already have a keyboard in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup to use for logging in via kdm)06:49
Angelusah06:49
Angelusok06:49
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nosrednaekimsparr: you got guidance-powermanager running?06:50
stdinAngelus: like: export CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe"06:50
sparrnosrednaekim: i dont think so.  i have kpowersave06:50
Angelusstdin:  i have to do that before every compile right?06:50
jason_20eevee:  My laptop works exactly the same as in windows, but my battery is poor, I would reccomend checking your bios first for powersaving modes etc, and then you can look at the laptop applet for other settings06:50
hambobonosrednaekim: i deleted everything06:50
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stdinAngelus: no, export means that it will be remembered for that session06:50
jason_20Slike:  you still there? i don;t think I can send PM's06:50
nosrednaekimsparr: oh..hmm... not sure how to do it in there... I think there is a setting for it though.06:51
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stdinAngelus: so unless you exit, you don't06:51
nosrednaekimhambobo: ok, paste that stuff.06:51
Angelusstdin: yeah so when i close Konsole it will not be remembered06:51
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adeniciohow can i change my ip adress?06:51
stdinAngelus: right, unless you put that in your ~/.bashrc file06:51
Angelusalso will ./configure CFLAGS=" " work ?06:51
jason_20so what Irc room does Shuttleworth chat in ;)06:51
eeveeso my acpi thing reads "ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=false"06:51
stdinAngelus: yeah, that will too06:51
eeveei'm guessing i should change false to true06:51
Slikejason_20, still alive and kicking :)06:51
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hydrogenerr06:52
jason_20Slike:  good good!06:52
hydrogenpassing cflags to configure doesn't really help06:52
elite101hey06:52
Slikearen't your registred at freenode, jason_20?06:52
nosrednaekimeevee: hmm don't know what that will do :) try it06:52
hydrogenit needs to be in the environment of the command that spawns gcc06:52
jason_20Slike:  no im not a regular user, although its great06:52
adeniciohow can i change my ip adress? elite10106:52
hambobothe command06:52
stdinhydrogen: configure put's it in the Makefiles06:52
jason_20What benefits other than IM's do you get for being regged?06:52
Angeluswhere can i write then in .bashrc stdin?06:52
hambobonothing to paste except command06:53
NickPrestajason_20, you get to have your username registered...06:53
stdinAngelus: anywhere, but at the bottom is good06:53
jason_20uh hu06:53
nosrednaekimhambobo: i'm sorry, I have to go.06:53
hambobok06:53
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: can you help him put his windows as the default boot option?06:53
nosrednaekimthanks.06:54
Slikejason_20: what do you mean by "being regged" (english is not my main language)06:54
elite101adencio, sorry what?06:54
AngelusCFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe"06:54
AngelusCXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"06:54
Angelusi wrote that06:54
elite101adenicio, sorry what about ur ip?06:54
Angelusin the bottom of the file06:54
jason_20I cant see a register link, "registered" Slike06:54
Angelusgood like that stdin?06:54
stdinAngelus: yep06:54
Slikejason_20, if I only remembered how I registred.....06:54
jason_20lol06:54
Slikeit just happened to me i suppose, or my memory is like cheese :P06:55
stdin!register06:55
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:55
jason_20lol, Slike where you from? or to keep on topic, what languages do you use on your kubuntu setup06:55
jason_20thanks stdin06:55
Slikei'm using english everywhere, but irl i speak dutch (belgium)06:56
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Angelusthanks stdin06:56
jason_20ok heres a good question, when opening a http link and konqueror opens, when using konqueror as a web broswer when you click a link it always asks to save the page how do you get that to stop, if you know what I mean06:56
jason_20Slike:  oh ok cool06:56
Angeluswill this show the "-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe" when compiling like in gentoo stdin?06:57
stdinAngelus: should do, make normally echos the commands it runs06:57
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NickPrestajason_20, I don't know what you mean. Konqueror doesn't ask me to save every page I visit...06:58
jason_20erm, its not my default browser, but when I do use it everytime I click a link rather than loading it it tries to save the file or open with an application.06:59
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arunIt looks like I made a mistake by installing Ubuntu06:59
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arungah06:59
jason_20arun:  what went wrong?06:59
BluesKajarun, you can install kubuntu-desktop07:00
arunjason_20: nothing went wrong, i don't like gnome :\07:00
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Slikegnome's cool in its own way ;)07:00
NickPrestajason_20, well it depends on the link. Konqueror opens up specific files with specific applications... Go into Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Associations07:00
jason_20arun:  its actually very easy to install kde and remove gnome, I done it lol07:00
adeniciohow can i change my ip adress? elite10107:00
arunyes, it is very cool in some ways, but it's not nearly as customisable as kubuntu07:00
jason_20NickPresta:  ok mate will give it a try07:00
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Slikearun: it is, but you have to know how :)07:01
arunBluesKaj: should I install kubuntu-desktop or just do a clean re-install?07:01
adeniciohow can i change my ip adress? stdin07:01
BluesKajkubuntu is ubuntu with KDE or kubuntu-desktop07:01
NickPrestaI find gnome has taking "simplicity" too far. It has the world's fastest growing menu. You would think like-applications would be grouped together but apparently not...07:01
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Slikearun: install kubuntu-desktop, there's no reason why you should start all over07:01
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stdinadenicio: that's up to your ISP, why do you want to?07:01
arunI have the Kubuntu feisty fawn cd, should i just do a re-install07:01
BluesKajinstall kubuntu-desktop07:01
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jason_20arun:  i know you didnt ask me, i'll be honest I done both, I installed kubuntu-desktop but ended up with a fresh install because i had problems removing all the gnome files, to cut a long story short, i had to reinstall Gimp, firefox and all the nice easy programs that I use07:02
BluesKajarun , the difference is just the desktops , gnome for ubuntu , kde  for kubuntu07:02
arunBluesKaj: how is that better than re-installing?07:02
adeniciostdin: because a web site know that i exceed the limite of download and im shor they saw that by my ip07:02
jason_20i mean I ended up using the live cd and starting fresh07:02
adenicio!isp07:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:03
BluesKajuhmm , not better , just less time consuming , arun07:03
adeniciostdin: isp?07:03
stdinadenicio: Internet Service Provider, the company who you pay for the internet07:03
arunBluesKaj: not really, i just installed ubuntu 4 hours ago.. not saved anything in here. plus i have my home directory backed up from my previous kubuntu installation, so i can get my old settings back07:03
jason_20BluesKaj:  not to be an arse, but it was better for me as I didnt want left over files from gnome, and apt-get remove made me re-install a lot of applications which were configured for gnome07:04
BluesKajreinstall if you must...but personally i don't see the point of it07:04
arunalright :)07:04
adeniciostdin: that su***07:04
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stdinadenicio: tough :)07:04
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adeniciostdin: but i cant change the last number of my ip?like for my psp i put it 10 my pc 9 and my sis laptop 1107:06
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stdinadenicio: that's your internal IP, not the external IP07:06
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jason_20does anyone else have problems in firefox crashing after watching a flash file07:07
jason_20like youtube07:07
stdinsometimes07:07
adeniciostdin: oh ok and witch the websites does detect?07:07
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stdinadenicio: always the external one07:08
BiovoreThe close source flash has bugs.. :-/07:08
jason_20Biovore: does gnash do the same job without bugs?07:08
BiovoreI don't thing gnash supports all the things the comercial flash does..07:08
stdinjason_20: gnash is still buggy, and can't play version 9 flash07:09
BiovoreAnd it my still be bugy..  But atleast we can fix gnash...07:09
jason_20yeah07:09
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Biovoreso for flash crashing complains.. please file with adobe.. (makers of flash)07:09
adeniciostdin: wat are flash?07:09
debianhi all07:10
stdinadenicio: flash, like in youtube...07:10
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debian<< im new here07:10
debian<< and i like debian/debian bases oses07:10
gnomefreak.mode #kubuntu -b07:10
NickPresta!hi | debian07:10
ubotudebian: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:10
debianhi nick07:11
debianthanks ubotu07:11
jason_20does anyone have any problems I can look at remotely on kubuntu so I can test the Krdc?07:11
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Arwendebian? in #kubuntu? never!07:11
mtfuchsdoes usplash meanwhile support typing in luks passwords during the boot process whithout stopping usplash?07:11
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Biovorejason_20: I use krdc here between kubuntu box's and redhat machines all the time..07:11
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soulriderhello07:12
debian<<im using konversation07:12
jason_20Biovore:  how do you set up a krdc server or do you use vnc?07:12
debianhi soulrider07:12
Biovorejason_20: I use krdc most of the time now..07:12
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Biovorejason_20: You need to create in invination on the machine you want to connect too.. then connect to it from another machine..07:13
soulriderdamn, i just came from my neighbors house adn they bought their 6 or 7 yr old GTA 3 =/07:13
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jason_20Biovore:  I want to use TSclient or Kdrc to remote assist people without any background knowledge, for example someone has a problem in XP or ubuntu, I want to connect and get around firewalls or NAT routing at the moment Im using Hamachi. Can you think of a better solution?07:13
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debian. o (i think a 6 or 7 yr old is too young for GTA)'07:14
mtfuchsdoes usplash meanwhile support typing in luks passwords during the boot process whithout stopping usplash?07:14
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debian. o (but then i started playing quake 3 at the age of 15)07:14
jason_20Biovore:  I want to setup a connection without having to explain lots of stuff to the server user.07:14
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soulriderdebian, i always played violent stuff, but i think thats way too much for him, i in fact doubt he has the motor skills to even correctly play it :P07:16
evri2can anyone help me with flv videos?07:16
evri2i cannot seek07:16
debiansoul > :P07:16
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adeniciostdin:oh i have a prob with mine i install real player to view streams on the web site http://www.hentai-streaming.com/beat_angel_escalayer_01.php  it say imposible to conect to the server (http://ks34096.kimsufi.com/~hentai/Rv/Rv/Beat_Angel_Escalayer_01.rv) that error is with firefox.with konkeror it doesnt play at all and it says nothing.but when i go on youtube the 2 of them work.the first time i install real player it on07:17
adeniciothe web site (http://ks34096.kimsufi.com/~hentai/Rv/Rv/Beat_Angel_Escalayer_01.rv) was playing but not with real player07:17
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Biovorejason_20: Press Alt-F2 and type in kcontrol..  Select Internet & Networking then Desktop Sharing.07:18
Biovorejason_20: check the allow univited connection box and set a password..07:18
Biovorethe remotely connect to that box from another..07:19
paritoshi get the following errors if i try to open a gui app using sudo: 1. could not find MIME type application/octet-stream. 2.malformed url: file:///var/lib.....07:19
Biovoreuse rdp protocol07:19
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paritoshwhat might be the problem? anybody?07:19
paritoshim using kde. this has started occurring only recently.07:19
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Biovorewhat app?07:20
paritoshkate/konqueror07:20
debianparitosh >> did you try kdesu?07:20
debianinstead of sudo?07:20
paritoshhappens with all of them07:20
debianits what i usually use07:20
paritoshdebian: no, will do. hold on07:20
Biovoreyeah.. kdesu kate..  works here..07:20
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jason_20Biovore: cheers, the thing i sometimes have probs with is that I cannot get a correct IP address for the server because of firewalls and stuff like that07:21
paritoshdebian: yeah it worked.07:21
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jason_20Biovore:  so i use hamachi to join a vpn07:21
paritoshdebian: sudo worked earlier. what changed?07:21
jason_20paritosh:  did you change any locales or purge anything?07:21
Biovorejason_20: ok.. so your network setup is very obvuscated then..07:21
paritoshjason_20: yeah07:22
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debianparitosh >> dont know, may be an update had a bug or something like that? or you need to udpate?07:22
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debianupdate**07:22
ErtainEvery time I try to open a web link in Konqueror, a dialog pops up and asks which application to open it up in (the defualt is Konqueror WB).  I try the Konqueror WB, but it doesn't open.07:22
debianbut i usually perfer kdesu07:22
paritoshdebian: i recently used localepurge and changed my locale too07:22
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jason_20Biovore:  I was on a wireless network that used NAT and a firewall, i didnt realise about port forwarding at the time. but sometimes it would to complicated for the user to fiddle with port forwarding etc07:22
Biovoreparitosh: might have worked on older version..  mine type data is stored in user directory.. root dosn't have a any mime data..07:22
paritoshBiovore: ok07:23
jason_20paritosh:  same happened to me before, it would work and then it wouldn't, the first thing I learned is not to lacalepurge07:23
paritoshjason_20: ok07:23
mtfuchsdoes usplash meanwhile support typing in luks passwords during the boot process whithout stopping usplash?07:23
jason_20mtfuchs:  I have no idea what a LUKS password is sorry mate07:24
debian. o (oh ok, so root doesnt have any mime types and localepurge doesnt help)07:24
debian. o (learn something every day)07:24
jason_20debian:  lol07:24
paritoshanother problem-cant open my servers home-page. it says this: /var/lib/tomcat5/work/Catalina/localhost/_/org/apache/jsp/index_jsp.java (Permission denied) in the server error. its apache/tomcat07:24
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jason_20debian:  I read on a site to speed up ubuntu do a localepurge but all that happend was I broke my sudo lol07:24
Biovoreparitosh: change the permissions on the file to +x and owned by the webserver..07:25
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debianjason >> oh so localepurge will speed up ubuntu ok07:25
debianbut it causes glitches07:25
debianwith sudo07:25
adeniciostdin: how do i get the flash to work again?07:26
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paritoshBiovore: ok, or the whole folder?07:26
stdinadenicio: make sure you have flashplugin-nonfree installed07:26
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jason_20debian:  I believe so07:27
jason_20debian:  a not so worth it Tip, unless ofcourse you know what your doing07:27
adeniciostdin: it's not in adept  flashplugin-nonfree07:28
debian<< i just know some of the "basic" commands, so i guess localepurge would not be a good idea for me07:28
jason_20debian: It wasn't for me either :P07:28
jay_To those who know: I have a locked database and cannot upgrade.  What process can I kill to unlock the adept upgrader?07:28
stdinadenicio: you need multiverse installed, if you are on 64bit you need to use the instructions from the help pages07:28
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stdin!aptfix| jay_07:28
stdin!aptfix | jay_07:29
ubotujay_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:29
jay_Thanks, Will try07:29
rayluwoah that was slow07:29
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stdinabout time ubotu07:29
danyahello .. I want to know how can I put a security code for my wireless network ?07:29
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rayluconfigure it on the router07:30
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sparrall of my kde apps want to use the same wallet, "kdewallet", is there any way to change that?  i want some to use a password-less wallet, and others to use the normal kdewallet07:30
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danyaraylu : thnks :)07:30
rayluo.007:30
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debianbrb need more coffee07:30
nuxilgreetings all07:30
raylusparr, kwalletmanager07:31
adeniciostdin: i tink multiverse is allready insatll07:31
debianhi nulix07:31
debiannuxil **07:31
rayluadenicio, it's a repository07:31
nuxili got a big problem.. i need to get my serial "com" port working.. i cant get it to work.. does any one got the time to help me getting it up and running?07:31
rayluer...what's connected to the serial port?07:32
sparrraylu: i can make new wallets, and move the saved data around, but that doesnt change which wallet the apps want to open07:32
babuspidy can anyone help me with configuring the sound devices for skype in ubuntu07:32
raylusparr, oh...i have no idea then :P07:32
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nuxilmy mobo is a asus a8n32 sli delux .. i dont know how well its supported.07:32
debian im gonna try something07:32
debiangrr07:32
debiandidnt work07:32
nuxilbut i guess it should be posseble07:32
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debiand07:35
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debiank i think i got it now07:35
debianwoot i idid07:35
phpcode!chmod07:36
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux07:36
debiannow it looks like  a freggin terminal07:36
sparri hate FHS07:36
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debiand07:36
sparrthe change from /mnt to /media makes no sense to me07:36
debianol cpm'ish looking terminal now07:37
stdinsparr: what change?07:37
sparrstdin: when debian adopted FHS07:37
stdinsparr: /mnt is for permanent/network mounts, /media is for removable media, there was no change, just an addition07:37
sparrno07:38
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stdinyes07:38
stdin:p07:38
sparrmnt is explicitly for Temporarily mounted filesystems.07:38
sparrnot permanent07:38
sparrFHS does not provide a place for permanent mounts07:38
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sparrdoes my mp3 hard drive belong in /mnt or /media?  what if its hot swappable?07:39
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debiansparr >> it gets mounted to /media07:39
debianor atleast it does with me07:39
sparrand if its not hot swappable?07:39
NickPrestaI think it is safe to say that with the amount of freedom in GNU-Linux, you have the choice of mounting your devices and storage where ever the heck you want :)07:39
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debianusually everything i mount gets mounted to /media07:39
stdinspar: swappable in /media, permanent I guess would be whatever you want07:39
debianpermanent or not07:40
Arweneh? mounts should go to media? I always figured mnt made more sense.07:40
ArwenNot that it really matters.07:40
sparrNickPresta: yes, but now i get complaints from FHS zealots when i seek help and have things mounted in the "wrong" place07:40
debianyou can mount drives to what ever folder you wnat07:40
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debiani think the mnt and media07:40
debianare there for variety07:40
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debiansome may choose mnt over media because its what theyve been using for centuries07:40
debianor the newbies may choose media because its a new addition07:41
hambobojoin #ubuntu07:41
debianor its what everything gets automounted to07:41
sparrbefore FHS, i had /media for music/movies/etc (the other kind of "media") and i kept a few drives mounted there07:41
stdinsparr: I tend to mount permanent things things to a place in / and USB devices in /media via pmount07:41
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sparrbut now that debian has adopted FHS, my flash drives end up there too07:41
hambobohow i join into the ubuntu channel07:41
stdinsparr: not that it really matters anyway07:41
stdinhambobo: click on #ubuntu <07:41
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hambobothanks07:42
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jason_20see you all another time ubuntu buddies07:43
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debiani wonder how you get that custom message when you exit the irc chat07:49
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hambobohow do i get windows into defult os07:50
Erwinwho wants windows as default?07:51
debianwhy would you want windows as the default?07:51
hambobomy parents07:51
debianoh07:51
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Erwinwhy not learning them linux?07:51
debianedit your /boot/grub/menu.lst07:51
sparrwhy would you want windows at all?07:52
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hamboboit gksu something..07:52
hamboboi need command07:52
debianim afraid im not gonna be able to help you out cause i dont have windows installed on here07:52
hambobonvm07:53
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debiangksu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst07:53
stdinkdesu, not gksu07:53
debianor kdesu07:53
Erwinand then just copy the windowpart above the ubuntu one07:53
debiangksu if you are using grub or have grub installed..however its best ot use kdesu07:53
angelhi07:53
debianhi angel07:53
Erwinhi angel07:53
NykoesHi, could someone help ? Got a sound probleme here.07:54
angelhow can i run paltalk on ubuntu knowing that i installed it successfully??07:54
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spazhello07:54
Erwinhello spaz07:55
spazi just upgraded from feisty to gutsy and now i can't boot the 2.6.22-10 kernel included by default07:55
Erwinnykoes: what's the problem/07:55
spazit spews out nothing but "read outside of bounds" errors (something like that, actually)07:56
spazi never had these problems with 2.6.20 or less...07:56
spazany idea how to fix that?07:56
NykoesErwin : First i wanna know why i could always have sound even if i mute everything with Kmix ?07:56
spazand yes, i know i shouldn't use beta software or so, but i had the same problems when i compiled my own kernel07:57
spaz-_-07:57
stdinspaz: try asking in #ubuntu+1 that's the gutsy support channel07:58
spazokies07:58
spazthanks07:58
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NykoesErwin : Everything is muted but the sounds always work. Any idea ?07:58
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Angelushello07:59
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Angelusi compiled samba from source07:59
guillermohi?07:59
Angelusbut when i go to file sharing from Kcontrol its saying i dont have the SMB SERVER installed07:59
Angelus:/08:00
ErwinNykoes: The only thing at the moment i can think of is a sound server problem08:00
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Erwinbut i'm not sure08:00
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angelhi08:01
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Erwinhi again angel08:01
mahdihow can i add repositories in kubuntu? everywhere i search is about ubuntu08:01
stdin!repos08:02
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:02
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debian. o (man this sure beats yahoo chat...)08:04
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Erwinyawhat08:05
seanpcrowe|hey peeps...08:07
debianhey sean08:07
seanpcrowe|can i mount a network drive from a w2k box in kubuntu on my lappy?08:07
seanpcrowe|(when i try to watch a movie stored on my server kubuntu trys to download the whole thing before playing)08:08
debiansean >> i believe so, ive done it before..but its been a while08:08
seanpcrowe|(it just plays when i am on windows on my lappy)08:08
seanpcrowe|does what i say make sence debian ????08:08
debianyes08:08
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seanpcrowe|can u point me in the direction to go debian ?08:09
debianaccording to kubuntu, kubuntu is not treeting your windows server a s a drive, so it has to download the file08:09
debianthen play it08:09
debianwell ive never done this on kubuntu08:09
debianbefore08:09
debianbut on regular ubuntu i have08:09
seanpcrowe|debian, yes that is exactally the problem (finally someone understands lulz)08:09
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seanpcrowe|can u rememebr what u done when u done it in ubuntu?08:10
debianon regular ubuntu, go places>Connect to server...08:10
debianthen, on service type, select Windows Share08:11
debiantype in the IP of the verver, teh share, and the folder you want to share08:11
debianand the domain name08:11
debianthen name the connection08:11
debian (username is optional)08:11
debian(use username if you "password protected" your windows server)08:11
debianthast how you do it on regular ubuntu, ive never doen it on kubuntu08:12
debiani usually remotely connect to the server computer though08:12
debianremotely as in VNC08:12
Erwini'm starting up my kubuntu box and check it now08:12
seanpcrowe|kk guys...08:13
seanpcrowe|thx...08:13
debianyw08:13
seanpcrowe|=)08:13
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Angelushello i compield and installed samba from source, but when i go to kcontrol and file sharing its says SMB and NFS servers are not installed . any help pleasE?08:16
NykoesGot another problem, i cant have sound under KdeTV or Kradio, it seems that analogic sound is muted somewhere, any ideas ?08:19
BluesKajAngelus, did you check in system settings/advanced/system services ?08:21
BluesKajNykoes, i hate to state the obvious but have you checked kmix and or alsamixer08:22
Angelusand what should i do from there BluesKaj?08:23
BluesKajcheck if samba is listed and running08:23
Erwinsean: did you check local network? if your drive is in there it has to go well.08:24
Angelusno its not BluesKaj08:24
Angelus:s08:24
Angelushow should i start it?08:24
coreymon77Angelus: is it listed?08:24
Angelusno its not listed08:24
Angelus:s08:24
seanpcrowe|local network Erwin ???08:24
NykoesBluesKaj : Yes,  i already check at those 2 mixers, everything is up and nothing muted :/08:25
seanpcrowe|where are you refearing to??08:25
Angeluswhat should i do08:25
Angelus?08:25
seanpcrowe|i usually browse via "remote places" Erwin08:25
Erwindo you have a network or is your lappy dualboot08:25
BluesKajNykoes, which soundcard ?08:25
BluesKajAngelus, just install samba from the cli08:26
Erwini have the problem that i'm working on a dutch version08:26
NykoesBluesKaj : under Kmix, it is wrote : Intel ICH508:27
Angeluswhat BluesKaj?08:27
AngelusO_o08:27
Angelusfrom cli ?08:27
debianwell i gtg l8r all08:27
BluesKajAngelus, also I recommend smb4k samba browser08:27
seanpcrowe|Erwin, yeah my lappy is dual boot... my home server box has only w2k...08:27
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Angelusi have smb4k08:27
Angelushehe08:27
Angelusbut i didnt understand you08:27
Angeluswhat do you mean install samba from cli08:28
Angelus?08:28
BluesKajAngelus, in the terminal ' sudo apt-get install samba '08:28
Angelusno08:28
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Angelusi want to use the one i compiled08:28
Angelus:s08:28
Erwinbut you do have the oppertunity to set up a connection in the 'remote places' do you08:28
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BluesKajterminal=konsole=cli=commandline interface ...they are all the same the "shell"08:29
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seanpcrowe|Erwin, no... samba just automatically was able to see my network drives...08:29
seanpcrowe|(but there not mounted, and i think thats the problem of not being able to stream)08:30
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arun!info ttf-dejavu 2.7-208:31
AngelusBluesKaj: any help to use the one i compiled?08:31
ubotuttf-dejavu: Vera font family derivate with additional characters. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14-2 (feisty), package size 3361 kB, installed size 6280 kB08:31
Erwinand the're not in fstab/08:31
BluesKajAngelus , do you have samba in your /home folder ?08:31
Angelussamba is installed in /usr/local/samba BluesKaj08:32
seanpcrowe|fstab Erwin ?08:32
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Erwinopen /ets/fstab in an editor and you wil see al your mounted drives08:33
BluesKajok, is there a readme and makefile in /usr/local/samba , Angelus ?08:33
Erwini mean ETC/fstab08:33
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Angelusno BluesKaj08:33
BluesKajinstall ?08:33
BluesKajfile08:34
Angelusneither08:34
Angelusthis is not the source directory08:34
Angelus:s08:34
seanpcrowe|kk Erwin ...08:34
Angelusits were "make install" installed the files08:34
Angelus:/08:34
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hambobohow do i set up my keyboard08:34
Erwinwhat the $%^^$&%^$& does kk mean08:34
seanpcrowe|ok...08:34
seanpcrowe|lol08:34
BluesKajAngelus, ./configure wouldbe the first command after compiling08:35
hambobowhen does nosrednaekim go on08:35
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AngelusO_o08:35
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AngelusBluesKaj: ./configure is before compiling -_-08:35
BluesKajbut you have to be in the samba dir08:35
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Angelusim not understanding you08:36
Angelusi already did ./configure make and make install08:36
hambobohow i set my keyboard08:36
hamboboso i can use slash08:36
BluesKajyeah ok, Angelus ...sorry that was a poor choice of words08:36
BluesKajafter downloading08:36
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Angeluscould this be because i installed in /usr/local instead of /usr?08:37
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BluesKajok, Angelus ,then you may have to reboot to get the samba daemon to run08:37
tattersin kubuntu gutsy where is the new gui for X located?08:37
erwin_sean: Erwin got now erwin_08:38
Angeluscould it be BluesKaj because i installed in /usr/local?08:38
Angelus:s08:38
zabadapphambobo: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout08:38
BluesKajno Angelus , as long as you were able to config and make etc in the same dir08:38
Angelusok08:38
Angelusi'll give a reboot then08:38
Angelusbrb08:38
hamboboi using ubuntu08:39
hambobonvm got it08:39
sparrhow can i disable the password prompt when returning from standby?08:39
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hamboboi still cant use slash08:40
zabadappsparr: maybe change LOCK_SCREEN=true to false in /etc/default/acpi-support08:41
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slow-motionhallo08:42
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sparrzabadapp: that file rocks, thanks!08:44
sparrzabadapp: so many changes to make08:44
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zabadappsparr: yes, I know ... POST_VIDEO=false (disable warm boot of video card on resume) was what I needed to get suspend to work at all ...08:46
sparrzabadapp: my tablet loses stylus support on hibernate, so im going to set hibernate mode to 'platform' so it does a system shutdown08:47
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AngelusBluesKaj: i rebooted but nothing08:48
AngelusBluesKaj: can i send you a screen shot ?08:48
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BluesKajAngelus, have you tried running smb4k ?08:48
Angelusyeah08:48
Angelusits giving me an error too08:48
Angeluswhen i try to mount08:48
zabadappsparr: hmm, I have a Wacom Intuous (A5) and it works after resume08:49
AngelusBluesKaj08:49
zabadappsparr: but then I don't use hibernate, only suspend to ram08:49
Angelusmount error 1 = Operation not permitted08:49
AngelusRefer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)08:49
sparrmine is a serial wacom tablet08:49
sparrand mine works after suspend (of any sort)08:49
Angelusthats the error from smb4k08:49
zabadappsparr: ok, mine is usb08:50
BluesKajAngelus, open konq in file management mode and search/locate samba08:50
sparrzabadapp: can you tell me what HIBERNATE_MODE is in your acpi-support ?08:51
Angelusyeah im there BluesKaj08:51
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BluesKajlocate:samba in the address bar08:52
zabadappsparr: "shutdown"08:52
sparrthanks08:52
sparrim going to see if i can get hibernate working by restarting some 'services'08:53
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Angelusyeah BluesKaj im in samba's directory08:53
Angelusin /usr/local/samba08:53
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sparri need to make friends with powertop and get my wakeup count down, my system is burning far too much power08:54
albertmkProblem: I "apt-get install eclipse" and it is not in my desktop. I have to type "eclipse" on the terminal to open it.08:54
BluesKajAngelus, my samba is in /var/lib/samba08:54
sparralbertmk: have you looked in the menus?08:54
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albertmksparr: it is not in the menus08:54
albertmkyou mean in K Menu?08:55
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sparryes08:55
AngelusBluesKaj: but yours wasnt compiled from source and installed08:55
albertmkit is not, unfortunately08:55
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sparrso..  add it?08:55
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phoenixzHi there, when in adept manager, I select "Full upgrade", will it upgrade just upgrade the packages that can be upgraded, or will it also completely upgrade to a new vresion of kubuntu?08:57
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BluesKajAngelus, why are you so hung up on using a compiled version? ... the latest samba is in the repos and it works well. I use it regualrly with smb4k samba browser08:57
malqosi have problems with my wifi08:57
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AngelusBluesKaj: its not the latest08:58
Angelus;p08:58
malqosmy routher is turn on but my computer dosent see it08:58
malqoswhy08:58
Angelusthe latest is .2508:58
malqos?08:58
Angelusin adept itss .2408:58
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