=== khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-151-206.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:26] An honest question: do you guys think that people really know that Linux (or any other "free" software) exists as an alternative to their proprietary systems? [01:27] !offtopic [01:27] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:28] Arwen, yeah, definitily a good question for -offtopic. :D [01:29] meh, nobody's talking right now === atlas95 [n=atlas@84.6.197.69] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:32] so what exactly was the point of changing -386 to the default boot kernel? [01:32] they didn't [01:32] -generic is === TheDebugger [n=unknown@bas1-montreal02-1096726211.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:33] lies [01:33] i upgraded yesterday, and i get a surprise -386 kernel installed and defaulted === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [01:33] and wireless broke === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip56508163.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jack_Sparrow [n=jack@adsl-69-105-139-194.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [01:35] May I have a link to dowload Gutsy...? [01:36] !gutsy [01:36] Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:37] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download [01:37] pwnguin, reinstall the generic one [01:37] s-x-u: I got that... but is a link available? [01:37] probably just an apt failure [01:37] Thanks === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:38] Arwen: its already installed, and -386 purged. just curious what the point of that whole affair was [01:39] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/ [01:39] like I said, it was probably a failure in dependency handling [01:39] this one sorry [01:39] it didn't happen to me === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:40] s-x-u: NP... Getting the Alt now.. === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === goodhabit [n=goodhabi@87.252.246.17] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sonicadvance1 [n=Sonicadv@72.24.183.243] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:42] Oi, is Tribe 5 of Gutsy Stable enough for normal use? :P === rexy [n=rexy@s5591754c.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:44] since upgrade to gutsy, when i rotate my desktop with xrandr it doesnt resize, so i have a large black rectangle on one side === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:44] Sonicadvance1, works fine here but I haven't tested any unusual use circumstances === TheDebugger [n=unknown@bas1-montreal02-1096726211.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [01:45] I see, I tested Gutsy before there were any Tribe releases, was pretty unstable then :P === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:46] Sonicadvance1: it depends also on your hardware i think have gutsy running without problem [01:46] Hello. How i can update my feisty to Gutsy? === deobfuscate [n=deobfusc@85-125-160-158.work.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:47] It's a terminal command goodhabit [01:47] sudo update-manager --help [01:47] update-manager -d [01:48] TY! [01:48] aren't I such a good friend? [01:48] or change your repository list [01:48] Anyone know when tribe 5 comes out === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:48] How i know have i gutsy repo on my mirror? [01:49] *Or not. === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:49] goodhabit: ubuntu.com/testing you need to update update-manager first [01:49] jrib: About learning how-to update-manager i understood. [01:49] man, gpg is kicking my ass [01:50] And how i can know have my remo it? [01:50] goodhabit: what do you mean? [01:50] gpg --send-key key-id <-- what is a key id? [01:51] jrib: I have a mirror of repo on local network. How i can know, have that repo gutsy repo too? [01:51] On have not. ) [01:51] pwnguin: your name works, like 'jason' === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:52] pwnguin: technically though keyID is that 8 character hexadecimal string attached to your key I think [01:52] are there any backports for gutsy yet from the .23 kernel tree? [01:52] jrib: that sems more logical [01:53] deobfuscate: yesterday? [01:55] heh === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:55] release schedule bookmarked and downloading [01:55] How is it === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:59] Is it safe to update tu Gutsy now? [01:59] no [01:59] ot [01:59] it'll be "safe" when it's released === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:00] I mean +|- safe, I have used testing, unstable debian, ~ unstable (beta) distro Gentoo. And they was working ok with me. [02:01] Is it really unsafe? [02:01] No. Hardly. [02:01] Cuz release is soon. [02:01] Tribe 4 worked with a couple issues for me, tribe 5 seems fairly solid. === Ahadiel [n=michael@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:03] And about repo, Sorry for questions-repeating, but how can i know, have i necessary (and recomended) ) files at my local mirror? === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === burner [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 === burner_ [n=burner@c-67-172-157-202.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sonic1 [n=Sonicadv@72.24.183.243] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rexy [n=rexy@s5591754c.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fsckr [n=rich@pool-71-100-42-63.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chowmeined [n=will_@76.28.132.206] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:34] What do I do with all these bugs I keep finding? [02:34] chowmeined: see if they've been reported and if not report them bugs.ubuntu.com [02:34] (and fix them if you want :)) [02:35] im not sure i know how, but ive already found 4 in the installer [02:35] i dont even have it installed yet === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:36] not sure i know how to fix them* [02:36] I was kind of kidding about fixing them, reporting them is a big help [02:36] ok, ill go report them (if they dont already exist) [02:36] chowmeined: great, thanks! === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:38] chowmeined: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs might be helpful [02:39] thanks [02:40] hmm, that was was already reported back for feisty.. its still in gutsy [02:40] that one was* === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.220.58.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:40] yeah one that plagues me was too :/ [02:41] the manual partition editor takes like 5 seconds to refresh every time you add/modify a partition with it [02:41] in the installer === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [02:42] anything useful in the logs? [02:42] its just how it was designed... [02:43] that part needs to be rewritten to put all the partition settings into a data structure, and then when they click next to batch perform all the operations at once [02:43] sleep(3600^random()); P? [02:43] has displayconfig worked for anybody? [02:43] no it rescans the partition tables every time you change an option [02:43] like if you want to change a partition from ext3 to xfs.. or add a partition to the list of ones you want.. it rescans every time (doesnt actually do it until later) but rescans anyways [02:44] it doesnt make any changes then, so that would seem a bit pointless === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:45] exactly === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === carla [n=carla@ool-4576861a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma-- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === iblicf_ [n=iblicf@125.34.31.11] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:00] hello, can someone help me with ubuntu? i just installed it. when i reboot my laptop it tells me to choose between ubuntu kernel generic or windows xp. when i clik on ubuntu generic, it takes me to a command screen. from there i don't know what to do besides entering my user name and password. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:02] any help? [03:03] advice? [03:04] what command should i type to enter the system? [03:04] you (probably) want #ubuntu - this channel is for testing the development version === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:09] Can someone test the "device database" tool? It gets stuck at "video" for me. === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === HaaS [n=Hercules@201.8.225.186] has joined #ubuntu+1 === HaaS [n=Hercules@201.8.225.186] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-085.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-32-40.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ptn107 [n=phil@12.86.38.202] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kduboi1 [n=kevin@adsl-76-232-157-254.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:53] what is the difference between the libwnck18 and libwnck22 packages? === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [03:55] one is newer === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:56] yeah, but why did they change the package name instead of the version? it breaks the installs of lots of eyecandy... === hrp2171 [n=chatzill@70.134.84.153] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:58] hello, i would like to update my 7.04 to gutsy over the net. where do i find out info on what to put in sources.list [03:58] nevermind, apparently both can exist peacefully on the same system... [03:59] not the final but the interim release [03:59] hrp2171: you can get a cd, or do update-manager -d, i think (i might be wrong...) [03:59] basically i want to keep up with devel releases up until final and so on === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip56508163.direct-adsl.nl] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:08] neat. my custom gnome launcher is broke === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-32-40.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Assid [n=assid@unaffiliated/assid] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:12] hrmm [04:13] opengl + compiz on nvidia = hell === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mister_roboto [n=jrk@216-80-50-172.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@216-164-162-139.pa.subnet.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-102.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gourdin [n=adept@dau94-8-88-166-31-178.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === phil_pi [n=dphil@000-208-556.area3.spcsdns.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu+1 === elmargol [n=elmargol@host3-61-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rexy [n=rexy@s5591754c.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Yasumoto [n=Yasumoto@unaffiliated/yasumoto] has joined #ubuntu+1 === phil_pi [n=dphil@000-208-556.area3.spcsdns.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === rexy is now known as rexsum === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rexsum is now known as rexy_ === jscinoz [n=jscinoz@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === teajay [n=ethernop@209-102-151-213.dsl.gulftelephone.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mamefan [n=mgrant@67-40-119-90.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:25] Hello, anyone feel nicely enough to help me with a problem? [04:25] depends on the problem [04:25] hehe [04:25] yeah [04:26] I'm getting two errors while trying to upgrade to Tribe [04:26] Is there any support for Artec T14A USB HD Tuner? [04:26] teajay, they are? [04:26] warning: could not initiate dbus [04:26] current dist not found in meta-release file [04:26] updating to tribe ? your updating via apt ? [04:26] I've been doing some searching to no avail [04:26] update-manager [04:26] hmm, that one again. Sorry, no clue what the deal is with it. [04:27] Another guy was getting that earlier. [04:27] not sure.. as far as i know.. apt should update without any issue [04:27] if you're feeling lucky, you can change "feisty" with "gutsy" in your sources.list and force a dist-upgrade [04:27] actually thats what i did [04:27] You could always go the brute way and sed -i /etc/apt/sources.list -e 's/feisty/gutsy/g' and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade [04:27] did that work? [04:27] That should work without any issues, it worked perfectly for me. [04:27] ok [04:27] me too [04:28] That method got me to gutsy without too much trouble. [04:28] !sources [04:28] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource [04:28] !easysource [04:28] source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic [04:28] can cause issues / need fixing if you have a lot of hacked/local packages [04:28] there.. that one [04:28] thanks [04:28] i'll give that a shot === Assid goes back to coding php [04:29] Assid: dont use easy source please as it hasnt been kept up since edgy/early feisty [04:29] Any advice on the Artec T14A USB HD tuner? I'd really like to get it working in Linux so I can ditch the Windows partition. [04:29] really? [04:30] actually i had got my hands on someones sources.list [04:30] the nick at the moment however escapes me [04:30] you know.. we need some better suport for synching stuff.. like mobile phones and stuff [04:30] its painful to do it in linux [04:31] i mean look at mac's isync .. and ofcourse i cant really compare windows 3rd party cause thats what people mainly develop for [04:32] but seriously tho, it gets painful to sync it === Ahadiel [n=michael@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:33] mamefan: not sure [04:34] hrmm [04:34] http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main libc6-dev 2.6.1-0ubuntu1 [04:34] is what it's downloading from now [04:35] so I guess im updating to Gutsy [04:35] Grading sorry === ysth1 [n=ysth@67-42-107-226.tukw.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Mulder [n=mulder@124-197-28-188.callplus.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF2447.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:36] will gusty have /dev/parport0 created automagically? === flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-181-89.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:42] Mulder, is that for a paralell port? [04:42] yes [04:42] just curious [04:42] the character device file isnt created by default in feisty [04:42] i could just mknod it myself [04:42] but i'm curious as to why itwas even removed [04:43] no idea, i know nothing about paralell ports under linux, i was just curious [04:43] ah ok [04:43] sorry man :-( [04:43] no problem [04:44] Mulder, this is in tribe 5 right [04:44] oh i havent got gutsy installed [04:44] am just wondering if this behaviour is being inherented in gusty [04:44] heh === Mulder uses feisty [04:44] oh [04:45] inherited [04:45] maybe ask in #ubuntu-dev [04:45] ah [04:45] Bah, it's too bad there's no way to see the speed of a copy operation while it's going. [04:45] they might know a bit more about future plans [04:45] KDE does it, but GNOME doesn't. [04:45] SeveredCross, there is in kde [04:45] yeah. [04:45] F0r [04:45] For "simplicity's sake" [04:45] SeveredCross, strace it [04:45] A non-geek user will be like wtf im not downloading something [04:46] Yeah. [04:46] if it's not memory to memory copying, it will call read/write calls that will show up in strace [04:46] I'd really just like to see it because I'm curious about the throughput of my external HDD. [04:46] Mulder, yeah but to calculate what they mean on the fly in your head, come on [04:46] SeveredCross, search synaptic for HD burnin or something [04:46] does the plugin finder even work? === MKR [n=pithypun@h78.199.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:47] well, no heh but it's a good thing to keep in mind if you ever suspect the program has crashed [04:47] chowmeined: atm it is broken [04:47] Well, I always do cp -v [04:47] oh [04:47] so much for that [04:47] we were testing it this morning [04:47] i use grsync [04:47] Oh, I forgot about rsync. [04:47] That's good. [04:47] nah [04:47] chowmeined: i am unable to reproduce the complaints so its not on all systems [04:47] not rsync [04:47] grsync [04:47] Same idea. [04:47] :- [04:47] yeah [04:48] I did totally forget about it. [04:48] night [04:49] WTH it skipped a bunch of stuff... [04:49] rsync: readlink "/media/sda6/music/Iron & Wine" failed: Input/output error (5) [04:49] Is it because of spaces in the path? === kduboi1 [n=kevin@adsl-76-232-157-254.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Ahadiel [n=michael@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:54] Fuck it, I'll just put up with the lack of information. [04:55] I feel like even Ctrl-C is missing some files. [04:56] Oh fuck, I'm getting I/O errors on the disk...Shit. [04:57] !ohmy | SeveredCross [04:57] SeveredCross: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [04:57] Also, yes. You would appear to be in trouble :) [04:57] Not more bad sectors..This would be my second failing drive. [04:58] I wonder if it's just a hosed NTFS partition... [04:59] Maybe. Booted into windows lately? [05:00] Not since I deleted my Windows partition. [05:00] ^_^ [05:00] I should've converted that partition when I still had space to shuffle things around. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] Now ntfsresize won't let me resize, so I had to go out and buy an external HDD. [05:00] Good thing I did, if this one is dying like my first one did, I'll need it. [05:00] Oh. You've got an ntfs partition you can't repair the errors on. Hm. [05:01] I've booted up Win XP inside qemu and ran chkdsk still no dice. [05:01] chkdsk says it can't write to a readable spot. [05:01] So I think either the partition is badly hosed or the drive is going. [05:02] Can you mount partitons inside qemu? Cool. === RAOF didn't actually know that :) [05:02] Yep. [05:02] You can pass them as physical disks. [05:02] You have to be root, but you can just pass something like -hdb /dev/sda5 [05:02] And it'll look like a physical disk to qemu. [05:02] Aaaaaaah. Right. [05:04] Wow. I can't believe I'm only getting 9 MB/s transfer rate. [05:05] Internal HDD to external HDD, USB2.0 [05:05] The external is a 3.5", 7200 rpm drive. === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-32-40.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jscinoz_ [n=jack@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:21] hey guys [05:21] How can i reinstall gtk? [05:22] apt-get install --reinstall [05:23] what is the main gtk package? [05:23] libgtk2.0 [05:23] cheers [05:23] libgtk2.0-0* [05:24] alright running the command now, lets see if it works === anderbubble [n=janderso@c-24-15-96-229.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:25] I've got an HP LaserJet 1000 installed and configured, but Cups won't print a test page: "Printer not connected: will retry in 30 seconds..." === |Assid| [n=assid@59.165.14.35] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex_mayorga [n=osito@189.156.196.251] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:29] gah didnt work, when i try to log in i get "GTK Warning: this process is currently running setuid or setgid" and then it logs me out, what can i do? [05:31] hello, anyone can help me to get back running after 2.6.22-10 broke gnome? [05:32] after I log into gdm the desktop tries to load and then crashes back to gdm === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:32] I get to see the panels up and down for a couple of seconds, thanks in advance === noir [n=noir@pool-72-65-109-4.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:36] Where is the applications menu icon stored in gutsy, i tried replacing distributor-logo.svg and its not changing. === jscinoz_ [n=jack@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === anderbubble [n=janderso@c-24-15-96-229.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === RAdams [n=ronadams@cpe-75-185-244-79.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:41] Does anyone have sound working in Pidgin on Gusty Tribe 4? === chalcedny [i=llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chalcedny [i=llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [05:42] I do, not sure on what tribe I am right now, though === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:42] alex_mayorga, did it work out of the box for you? [05:43] Wow, this here old laptop only has 72 wakeups per second. === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:44] When I'm on my Core Duo system, I get in the 600s, at least. [05:44] DanaG, it's a deep sleeper [05:44] :D === noir [n=noir@pool-72-65-109-4.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [05:44] And a re-frickin-diculously hot-running laptop. [05:44] it idles at 70 C and hits up to 89 at load. [05:44] lol [05:45] And the fan doesn't turn on until 75. [05:45] George Foreman Laptop Grille [05:45] patent it [05:45] RAdams, yes, luckily :) [05:45] I like some HP stuff, but this cheapo laptop is a 'you get what you pay for' kind of thing. [05:45] alex_mayorga, what is the sound method? automatic? [05:46] and are you using (default) for the event sounds? [05:46] 600s in what? [05:46] It's an Athlon XP 1400, yet they try to cool it with a tiny heatsink about the size of a pack of gum. [05:46] @ DanaG [05:46] riaki: (23:43:54) DanaG: Wow, this here old laptop only has 72 wakeups per secon [05:46] 600 or so wakeups on the Core Duo machine. Currently, it's being sent in for service, which is why I'm using he old laptop. [05:47] or as I like to call it === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:47] the LapToaster 5000 XC [05:47] I named this system 'amaterasu'. [05:47] RAdams, Intle 82801CA-ICH3 (Alsa mixer) [05:47] DanaG, how fitting ^^ [05:47] This old laptop is a Pavilion ZE1210. My good laptop is a Gateway M685. [05:48] The Gateway has the love-it-or-hate-it behavior of always leaving the fan on when connected to AC power. [05:48] RAdams, and in Pidgin it's Automatic [05:48] alex_mayorga, using custom Sound command or just "ALSA" from the popup box? [05:48] oh [05:48] ok [05:48] ty [05:48] np [05:48] tinkering brb [05:48] I'm glad, all the laptops/desktops i've set up jsut worked. [05:48] I need a better hostname for the good laptop; my current hostname 'm685' is rather, er, unimaginative. [05:48] any idea of my new problem on my laptop? [05:50] found the problem [05:50] alsa isn't working :| [05:50] NVidia nForce3 - IEC958 [05:50] test tone is silent [05:50] but I hear sound in the system, rhythmbox, etc [05:50] :| [05:51] I tried hwdb-gui on this laptop, and it stalled when showing the caption "Video" but showing the question from Audio. [05:51] s/ when /, / [05:52] can anyone take a look, please https://answers.launchpad.net/gnome-desktop/+question/12139 === Vivisector [n=sholden@ip68-11-232-57.br.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:54] alex_mayorga: please post the contents of your most recent gdm log [05:54] /var/log/gdm [05:54] put it in pastebin.org [05:54] or the pastebin that floats your boat :) === Solarion [n=solarion@cruftix.physics.uiowa.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:56] Obviam marinus := := := O:= := := := [05:56] Oops. [05:56] Sorry! [05:56] aren't we all [05:57] is the new xorg-video-ati xrandr 1.2 support going to be pulled in to gutsy, or do wa have to wait for gutsy+1? [05:58] gstreamer-properties only gives a test tone when the output is set to either Automatic or ALSA with the Default card selected... but not with my nVidia nForce3 device selected... the only sound card I have. How odd. [06:00] anyone know where pidgin's sound files are stored? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:03] I want them to replace esd with pulseaudio already... :/ [06:04] RAdams, /usr/share/sounds/purple i think? [06:04] rikai, checking [06:04] makes sense, since the libary for pidgin is named libpurple. === jscinoz_ [n=jack@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:04] *library === RAdams gives rikai a gold star [06:04] lol, second one today. :D === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1E9BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:06] Solarion: I believe that the xorg maintainer wants to pull the xrandr 1.2 driver. And you can help by testing it! [06:06] Alright, I asked before and no one even bothered to reply, i have aserious problem which results in be being unable to login to X properly. Basically whenever i login from GDM, i get an error stating something about Gtk running setgid or setuid. I am then dropped back to GDM. I'm currently typing this from BitchX, as i obviously cant login. How can i fix this problem? [06:07] jscinoz_: can you post the output of your most recent gdm log? [06:07] /var/log/gdm [06:08] one second [06:08] jscinoz_: It's been awhile, but as I recall you can send that log as an email using pine [06:08] pine? let me install it [06:09] "pine has no installation candidate" [06:09] >.> [06:09] It was another distro, most likely [06:09] and aside from that GDM is fine, its my actual session that fails [06:10] something about Gtk using setuid or setgid [06:10] oh wait [06:10] I saw something on that [06:10] sec === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CydeSwype [n=ian@adsl-76-244-163-233.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:12] Radams? === pwnguin_ [n=jld5445@camaro.cis.ksu.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:13] hey gang. working on getting sound restored. can someone point me to a good intro to debugging sound? not sure if it's a gutsy issue or not (not bug ticket in launchpad) [06:13] !audio [06:13] jscinoz_: I'm looking for it [06:13] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [06:13] CydeSwype: hda_intel? [06:13] alright [06:13] RAOF: believe so, modprobe will tell me right? [06:16] jscinoz_: do you have lynx installed, or another text-based browser so you can view a low-fi post from the ubuntu forum? [06:16] I found what I had seen [06:16] RAOF: aplay lists hda intel. i take it that's a known issue then? [06:17] Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. [06:17] This is not a supported use of GTK+ [06:17] tyes Radams [06:17] yes* [06:17] is that the error, jscinoz_ [06:17] ok [06:17] one moment [06:17] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=520698 [06:17] tyes [06:17] hang on [06:18] RAdams, any chance I see the same? [06:18] btw, sound was working on previous kernel (-9) [06:18] ill try the things it says on that [06:18] I'll have a hard time managing to extract the logs :s I'm yet a bit n00b :) [06:18] Cydwype, my sound also died with .10 [06:19] CydeSwype: You'd be interested in bug #131368 [06:19] Launchpad bug 131368 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "Dell 1420n audio not supported under Gutsy" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131368 [06:19] RAOF: perfect. thanks! i'll subscribe [06:19] CydeSwype: I'm just testing that proposed fix at the moment. [06:20] (It takes a while to rebuild l-u-m) [06:20] Radams, what am i looking for in that thread? [06:21] most of that refers to ATI, im using an nvidia card [06:21] which was working fine until yesterday, when i tried to update my alsa-drivers from source and one of them messed with gtk somehow [06:23] jscinoz_: the update you ran likely contained a gtk+ program attempting to run under setuid, which is a no-no. Hence, the crash [06:23] so how can i fix it? [06:23] Can you remove the driver patch? [06:23] already have [06:23] and i've tried reinstalling libgtk2.0-0 from console, no luck [06:26] >_< [06:28] any ideas RAdams? [06:28] RAOF: I'd be glad to help test [06:28] jscinoz_: let me think about it. removing the driver patch should have done it... you might need to reconfigure several packages... >.< [06:29] what commands? [06:33] and to think simply because of the .10 kernel killing my sound, i've now hosed GTK... [06:34] jscinoz_: post in the gusty tribe 4 forum as well, in case someone there thinks of an idea [06:35] i highly doubt elinks will let me post in a forum.. [06:36] theres got to be a way to return GTK to its normal state somehow [06:38] jscinoz_ sorry, forgot you don't have another system. I'll post it for you. what's your forum name? [06:38] I'll post under my name and mention yours [06:38] jscinoz not to sure if i have an acct [06:38] i think i do though [06:38] RAdams, what output did you ask before? [06:38] alex_mayorga: /var/log/gdm [06:39] inside are several logs. the most recent one is the one we need to look at === crackerbox [n=owner@74-135-34-212.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:40] the new printing system looks great [06:40] is there a back port of it for fesity? [06:41] just thinking if it says GTK is running setgid or setuid, is there a way to remove those from the process? [06:41] jscinoz_: dpkg-reconfigure libgtk2.0-0 (TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK) [06:42] it might bork your gtk even further... gtk is crotchety [06:42] but it might also work [06:42] :| [06:42] talright [06:42] hango n [06:43] done, ill see what happens when i log on this time === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:43] no change. [06:45] jscinoz_: can you type a forum post for me to paste into ubuntu forums? I'll give you a link to the lo-fi thread so you can read what people post [06:45] alright hang on a min [06:46] anyone here running gutsy on x86_64? [06:46]