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| bryce | keescook: there's only one issue left before I will be comfortable turning bulletproof-x mode on. There is a bug in gdm where it doesn't recognize after it starts FailsafeXServer, that it's in a failsafe mode, and it keeps attempting to restart X every minute | 01:40 |
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| bryce | keescook: I created a trivial demo of the bug and sent it to the gdm devel list, so am hoping to get a solution to that within a few days. Guess we'll see. | 01:41 |
| keescook | bryce: ah, does that need to be taught to gdm or upstart? | 01:41 |
| bryce | gdm | 01:41 |
| keescook | cool | 01:41 |
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| bryce | I dug through the gdm source code and followed how it handles the FailsafeXServer option. I don't grok all the forks and display detection logic goo, but it feels like it's missing a couple checks for d->failsafe_server... I'm just not certain where those checks fit | 01:42 |
| bryce | I get the impression this is a gdm option that hasn't been much used | 01:42 |
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| bryce | wow - displayconfig-gtk made first-mentioned-feature in this piece: http://news.com.com/Ubuntu+prepares+Gutsy+Gibbon/2100-7344_3-6204359.html | 01:44 |
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| keescook | bryce: xorg uploaded. :) | 01:46 |
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| bryce | awesome, thanks | 01:47 |
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| keescook | no problemo | 01:57 |
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| bryce | new bulletproof-x photos: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/BulletProofX/ | 03:50 |
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| ion_ | Nice! | 03:55 |
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| tepsipakki | who | 04:17 |
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| tepsipakki | -> | 04:20 |
| mjg59 | tepsipakki: Loss | 04:20 |
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| mneptok | psi | 04:20 |
| mneptok | pak | 04:20 |
| mneptok | ki | 04:20 |
| tepsipakki | mjg59: hah! | 04:21 |
| tepsipakki | sorry | 04:21 |
| tepsipakki | ha | 04:21 |
| tepsipakki | h | 04:21 |
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| tepsipakki | bryce: really? so maybe just upload the server then? | 04:24 |
| tepsipakki | bryce: uploaded | 04:29 |
| tepsipakki | ..and accepted | 04:33 |
| tepsipakki | -> | 04:33 |
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| Mulder | what's the rationale behind not creating /dev/parport0 by default in feisty and possibly gusty and above? | 04:47 |
| ion_ | mulder: Do you have a parallel port? :-) | 04:48 |
| Mulder | ion_, yes. | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | ion_: what kind of question is that? ;-) | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | lots of people have parallel ports | 04:49 |
| Mulder | i cant think of many machines that dont | 04:49 |
| ion_ | laserjock: There are PCs with no parallel ports. | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | ion_: sure some don't | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | ah, I misunderstood your question | 04:49 |
| ion_ | mulder: Anything interesting about parport in the dmesg output? | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | I was thinking you were saying that parallel ports where obsolete and nobody uses them | 04:50 |
| Mulder | nothing interesting, just the usual detected parport thing | 04:50 |
| Mulder | i mean it's not a big deal, i can just mknod a parport0 character device file myself | 04:50 |
| ion_ | mulder: Ok, so the parport module is loaded automatically on startup, right? | 04:51 |
| Mulder | but it just seems odd to me it doesnt get created by default | 04:51 |
| Mulder | yes | 04:51 |
| Mulder | the system will even create lp0 | 04:51 |
| Mulder | heh | 04:51 |
| Mulder | i figured it was a design feature? | 04:52 |
| Mulder | maybe part of some /dev simplification projcet i dont know about heh | 04:53 |
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| ion_ | mulder: dmesg | grep parport_pc | 04:54 |
| ion_ | mulder: For instance, here it prints [ 34.380000] parport_pc 00:0a: reported by Plug and Play ACPI | 04:54 |
| Mulder | brb | 04:55 |
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| Mulder | no output from the parport_pc module even though it's loaded. there is only output from parport module | 04:58 |
| ion_ | mulder: Ok, perhaps theres some kind of an ACPI/PNP problem. Is the port enabled in the BIOS settings? | 05:00 |
| Mulder | should be | 05:01 |
| Mulder | parallel port is picked up in windows | 05:01 |
| Mulder | by the tone of the discussion it sounds like it shouldnt be doing this heh | 05:06 |
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| Mulder | that's good to know at least, heh. thanks | 05:11 |
| ion_ | mulder: You probably should report a bug. Mention that parport_pc is loaded automatically but it doesnt recognize the port and that the port works in Windows, and attach the output of sudo lshw and dmesg. | 05:11 |
| Mulder | ah | 05:11 |
| Mulder | I have no idea how to file a bug report | 05:11 |
| Mulder | launchpad i'm guessing? | 05:12 |
| Mulder | there we go, bug report section in launchpad | 05:14 |
| ion_ | mulder: ubuntu-bug -p linux-image-$(uname -r) should open the correct webpage. | 05:15 |
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| Mulder | excellent thanks | 05:29 |
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| manchicken | Anybody know if there are stable apt bindings for Ruby or Python? | 06:22 |
| manchicken | The python-apt package seems to be marked unstable on sourceforge. | 06:23 |
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| manchicken | Although I guess it is in the main repo... | 06:25 |
| RAOF | And gnome-app-install uses them. | 06:25 |
| manchicken | Gotcha. | 06:26 |
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| sbalneav | Hello. Trying to squash Bug #134572. How do I tell pbuilder to build the binaries so they have the debugging info in, so I can gdb the results? | 08:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 134572 in nbd "Segfault" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134572 | 08:39 |
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| stgraber | I have just done a Wiki to Ical converter for GutsyReleaseSchedule, for those of you who'd like to test, it's at : http://www.stgraber.org/download/ubuntu/release-ical/ubuntuical.php | 11:35 |
| RAOF | Hm. You know what would be cool? A google calendar. | 11:39 |
| highvoltage | ew. | 11:39 |
| coNP | You can use this in Google. IIRC | 11:39 |
| RAOF | Yeah, I know. | 11:39 |
| RAOF | It can be imported, at least. | 11:40 |
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| realist | I have the ubuntu iCal imported/synced to google calendar, works a treat | 11:46 |
| realist | (Especially since you can sync that with thunderbird/lightning) | 11:46 |
| RAOF | realist: Can you sync (as in watch for changes?) | 11:47 |
| RAOF | On the other hand, the number of changes are going to be minimal :) | 11:47 |
| realist | RAOF: google watches for changes on via iCal I believe | 11:49 |
| RAOF | Cool | 11:50 |
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| Utnubu | hi all | 12:45 |
| Utnubu | Can anyone tell me why powernowd is still used when there are great kernel scaling governors? | 12:46 |
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| Utnubu | I am experimenting with powertop and powernowd seems to be one of the big tick consumers | 12:50 |
| Utnubu | and ondemand works fine without powernowd | 12:51 |
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| RAOF | Utnubu: Wow, you must have a highly-tuned system. On my x86-64 laptop powernowd is responsible for <1% of all wakeups | 12:52 |
| Utnubu | Not highly tuned but powernowd was one of the first places | 12:53 |
| RAOF | I suppose my lack of tickless may influence this. | 12:53 |
| Utnubu | It seems fine now except that hpet isn't activated | 12:53 |
| Utnubu | RAOF: Afaik powertop makes not much sense without tickless. | 12:54 |
| RAOF | You can still get useful data. It's just that you've lost one of the big optimisations. | 12:55 |
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| Utnubu | It really seems to help with energy saving but on my Sony laptop one thing is missing without recompiling the kernel. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/117327 | 12:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 117327 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "Sony TX series and possible many other Sony laptops couldn't use the lowest brightness setting" [Undecided,New] | 12:58 |
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| Hobbsee | RAOF: oh neat, powertop has suggestions now | 01:06 |
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| elena_g | Hello, my Audio Device is: "00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)", and I can't get working my microphone for skype or Ekiga... | 01:07 |
| Hobbsee | elena_g: support is not here, please see the /topic | 01:08 |
| RAOF | Hobbsee: Yeah, has for *ages*. | 01:08 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: i havent run it since it first got synced. | 01:08 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: are htey any good? | 01:08 |
| elena_g | Hobbsee, sorry then :) kiss! | 01:09 |
| RAOF | Not terribly for me, but that's because the biggest optimisations are out-of-bounds, I think. | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | right | 01:10 |
| RAOF | Hobbsee: The biggest suggestion it doesn't give is "kill pulseaudio". Pulseaudio uses somewhat more than 10% of my total power when it runs. | 01:14 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: right, yeah. you could use arts.... | 01:14 |
| === Hobbsee ducks | ||
| RAOF | Or just ALSA, my card actually has a mixer :) | 01:15 |
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| norsetto | !support | 01:38 |
| ubotu | the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org | 01:38 |
| norsetto | !jdongcrack > hobbsee | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | !jdong | norsetto | 01:39 |
| ubotu | norsetto: jdong is Hobbsee: jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! | 01:39 |
| norsetto | is the > not working? | 01:40 |
| norsetto | !jdong > hobbsee | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | norsetto: that is too | 01:40 |
| norsetto | ok, so its an IM | 01:41 |
| norsetto | !jdong > norsetto | 01:41 |
| === norsetto search for interesting factoids .... | ||
| norsetto | !search * > norsetto | 01:45 |
| ubotu | Found: fawn, ops-#xubuntu-offtopic, usetab, music players, kde docs, prefix, grubrepair, debchroot, swat, ttys | 01:45 |
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| dzs | how would the /etc/apt/source.list line "deb http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/ lazarus-stable universe" translate into an URL, please? | 03:36 |
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| tseliot | dsz: ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/lazarus/ | 03:38 |
| Chipzz | dzs: this is not the right channel for this kind of questions | 03:38 |
| Chipzz | tseliot: no | 03:38 |
| Chipzz | dzs: but if you want to know, run apt-get update while runnig some kind of sniffer? | 03:39 |
| Chipzz | urlsnarf from dsniff will be helpfull | 03:39 |
| StevenK | apt-get has a --print-uri or --print-uris option. | 03:39 |
| Chipzz | StevenK: I think that only works for packages | 03:40 |
| StevenK | Chipzz: "This also works with the source and update commands." | 03:40 |
| StevenK | From apt-get(8) | 03:41 |
| dzs | i dont want to know how to use apt-get. i dont use ubuntu | 03:41 |
| Chipzz | StevenK: oh, it does | 03:41 |
| dzs | and what could be the right place to ask then how dpkg internally resolves the sources.list into URLs? | 03:41 |
| tseliot | Chipzz: I thought the repo was browseable | 03:41 |
| StevenK | dzs: http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/dists/lazarus-stable/universe, I think | 03:41 |
| Chipzz | dzs: it's not dpkg that does it, obviously | 03:41 |
| StevenK | lazarus-stable/binary-<arch>/universe, actually | 03:42 |
| dzs | StevenK: you rock. thanks! | 03:42 |
| Chipzz | StevenK: you're correct | 03:42 |
| Chipzz | StevenK: err no :) | 03:42 |
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| Chipzz | http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/dists/lazarus-stable/ ;) | 03:42 |
| StevenK | Right. :-) | 03:43 |
| Chipzz | http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/dists/lazarus-stable/universe/binary-i386/ :) | 03:43 |
| StevenK | Ahh | 03:43 |
| norsetto | but if he wants the package, isn't that in pools? | 03:43 |
| Chipzz | norsetto: the layout of a repository can vary wildly | 03:44 |
| StevenK | It doesn't have to be. Depends on what Packages.gz says. | 03:44 |
| norsetto | ok, I assume they use the Debian layout | 03:44 |
| norsetto | its pool actually :-) | 03:44 |
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| frafu | Hello, Could anybody please check whether at-spi-registryd is running at gdmlogin (= plain login screen)? I would like to know whether it is a problem in ubuntu or only a problem with my setup. Thanks in advance. | 04:31 |
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| IntuitiveNipple | Anyone know which gnome start-up script is likely to handle the Log-In sound (settings are in ~/.gnome2/sound/events/gnome-2.soundlist) but using inotifywait & lsof I can't capture the process that is accessing it | 07:10 |
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| Q-FUNK | howdy! for bug #130620 what is the correct procedure? | 07:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 130620 in myspell-lv "Please sync myspell-lv (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130620 | 07:25 |
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| evand | If anyone that can sponsor an upload to main has a free momeent and would like to do me a favor, the mythbuntu team would like to see ubiquity 1.5.12 uploaded by the end of the weekend so they don't have to use a PPA: | 08:21 |
| evand | http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/upload/ubiquity_1.5.12_source.changes | 08:21 |
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| plopix | I am trying to backport python-qt4 from gutsy to feisty using pbuilder. python-qt4 has an unmet dependency to libqt4. Is it possible to include a successfully backported libqt4 package in a pbuilder run to satify the dependcy for python-qt4? | 08:46 |
| nixternal | plopix: what is the unmet dependency version? does it have something like (>= 4.3)? | 08:56 |
| nixternal | libqt4 in feisty is 4.2.1 I believe | 08:56 |
| plopix | nixternal: yes. | 08:58 |
| nixternal | change the >= 4.3 to 4.2 and it should fix your problems...err, actually no it probably won't | 08:58 |
| plopix | and it tells me that it has unsatified depdencies | 08:58 |
| nixternal | I think the python-qt4 is also 4.3 in gutsy, so you would have to backport all of the libqt4 packages as well | 08:59 |
| plopix | thats what I wrote, I think ;) | 08:59 |
| nixternal | ya you did :) | 09:01 |
| nixternal | maybe if I learned how to read :) | 09:01 |
| plopix | what I do not know is, how to tell pbuilder to use some local packages | 09:01 |
| beuno | plopix: maybe just install the backported library and save the pbuilder enviroment? | 09:01 |
| beuno | open it up with --save-after-login | 09:02 |
| nixternal | plopix: pbuilder allows you to use an alternate repo (ie. locally) and build hooks | 09:02 |
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| plopix | the pbuilder howto says, that can use --othermirror "deb file:///bla/bla feisty" for that purpose | 09:16 |
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| moyogo | ArneGoetje: ping | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | Don't want to report this as a Bug if it is meant to happen, but the printer applet stays in the task bar after the print job has finished. Is this normal behaviour or should I bug report it? | 11:15 |
| dobey | it's probably normal behavior, but not desirable behavior | 11:16 |
| davmor2 | dobey: Bug it is then. | 11:16 |
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| supervillain | Hi, does any of the gutsy applications where compiled with xcb? | 12:07 |
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| davmor2 | Is there any technical reason why 'libburn' is no longer install with brasero? | 12:27 |
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| pygi | davmor2, libisofs was dropped as well | 12:29 |
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