[01:07] <ubotu> cafuego called the ops in #ubuntu
[01:19] <Amaranth> !howto-#ubuntu-effects
[01:19] <ubotu> To install Xgl/AIGLX and Compiz use: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[01:24] <rob> bah, desktop affects is still borked on my pc :(
[01:24] <PriceChild> what card?
[01:24] <rob> nvidia
[01:25] <PriceChild> which one?
[01:25] <PriceChild> restricted manager should get them all going now...
[01:25] <rob> 7600 GS
[01:26] <rob> it was borked in Feisty and is still borked in Gutsy
[01:26] <rob> what happens is that the window manager disappears when you enable it (ie the thing around each window)
[01:26] <PriceChild> window borders?
[01:26] <PriceChild> but the rest of the effects work?
[01:27] <rob> yup, I haven't tested the rest of the effects
[01:27] <PriceChild> add:
[01:27] <PriceChild> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[01:27] <PriceChild> to section "Screen" in your xorg.conf
[01:27] <PriceChild> then restart x and try again
[01:27] <PriceChild> I think its also valid in section device
[01:28] <rob> ok, let me take a look brb
[01:29] <PriceChild> arwen just joined -offtopic...
[01:30] <rob> nope still borked
[01:30] <rob> wow, xchat has lastlog reply now, nice :)
[01:30] <PriceChild> what does compiz spit out from terminal when you launch it? - and shall we move to #ubuntu-effects to stop spamming here? :)
[01:31] <rob> ok
[01:35] <ubotu> bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu
[01:36] <Gary> PriceChild, was arwen trolling?
[01:36] <PriceChild> I don't think so.... but its always "hmmm"
[01:38] <PriceChild> hmm that guy was definite troll after pm
[04:08] <mneptok> !staff
[04:08] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[04:09] <mneptok> flooders in #ubuntu
[04:09] <mneptok> keeping them aroung until you can k: g:
[04:14] <ubotu> Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu
[04:15] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu
[04:15] <vorian> I can help if you guys need
[04:15] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu
[04:18] <nalioth> mneptok: one R or the other r please
[04:19] <mneptok> nalioth: i only set +R
[04:19] <nalioth> mneptok: but #ubuntu was +r before you did so
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> Someone better at bash than me see weedalot in #ubuntu and -unregged
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> Isn't that some sort of infinite loopy thing?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> mn`is there a reason why you and the other guy are spamming in -devel?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> mneptok: ^^^
[04:24] <Tm_P> hi kids
[04:24] <nalioth> mneptok: are you a closet spammer?
[04:25] <mneptok> gnomefreak: i was mocking him
[04:27] <gnomefreak> mneptok: even you know spamming is bad and in -devel channels are even worst ;)
[04:30] <gnomefreak> nalioth: can we remove easysource factiod since afaik Seveas hasnt kept it up for a while
[04:30] <mneptok> gnomefreak: be sure to point that out to Keybuk next time he has a 3 hour conversation about his pilot's license in -devel :P
[04:31] <gnomefreak> why keybuk? its Seveas site and he maintains it or atleast used to
[04:31] <gnomefreak> oh that
[04:32] <gnomefreak> mneptok: offtopic and spamming are different
[04:32] <mneptok> mneptok: his offtopic was 3 hours. my "spamming" was 4 lines.
[04:32] <gnomefreak> spamming is a good way to get banned were as offtopic we dont ban often
[04:32] <mneptok> gnomefreak: if you'd like to argue that mine was more disruptive, i'll gladly laugh at you :)
[04:33] <gnomefreak> mneptok: i just asked why you were doing it. 
[04:33] <mneptok> damn. i don't get to laugh at you. :/
[04:33] <mneptok> O:)
[04:34] <mneptok> gnomefreak: *i'm* an op in -devel
[05:56] <lexko> hello, just wondering why I was banned from #ubuntu
[05:57] <nalioth> lexko: you didn't get any clues?
[05:57] <lexko> i just logged onto the irc server and tried to join #ubuntu and i was told by the irc client "(You Are Banned)"
[05:58] <lexko>  Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[05:58] <nalioth> lexko: you're ident name is keeping you out
[05:58] <nalioth> bleh
[05:58] <nalioth> n=kurt is what is keeping you out
[05:58] <lexko> why is that?
[05:59] <nalioth> because of a troll named kurt
[06:00] <lexko> any tips on how I can change that? I dont see a setting for it in xchat. I'm guessing it's just using the account running the irc client
[06:00] <nalioth> look in the 'real name' field
[06:00] <lexko> it's set as lexko
[06:01] <nalioth> somewhere it has "kurt"
[06:01] <nalioth> lexko is a nick
[06:01] <lexko> you would think :P
[06:01] <lexko> i have lexko entered as both
[06:01] <elkbuntu> user name
[06:02] <elkbuntu> you'll need to reconnect to freenode for it to change on the server
[06:03] <lexko> it has always been set to lexko though
[06:03] <lexko> kurt is the linux account i am running this from
[06:04] <elkbuntu> lexko, so in XChat > Network List the 'User Name' field does not have 'kurt'?
[06:04] <lexko> no. lexko : lexko
[06:05] <elkbuntu> just do me a favour and reconnect to freenode .. Server > reconnect
[06:05] <lexko> k
[06:05] <elkbuntu> then no, it cannot be 'lexko' in the 'User Name' field
[06:07] <elkbuntu> you are using global details right? you didnt click on 'edit' for Ubuntu Servers and put details in there as well?
[06:09] <elkbuntu> idiot
[06:10] <lexko_> i've tried it both ways now: global and local. The only thing I cant hink of is that it is somehow pulling my account name into the string
[06:11] <elkbuntu> xchat is not made like that
[06:27] <lexko> this is getting silly. by the way the xchat source code does looks like it pulls a name by default using g_get_real_name 
[06:28] <lexko> recommend any other clients with  builtin identd?
[06:28] <nalioth> lexko: log in to another account?
[06:32] <elkbuntu_> lexko, /whois elkbuntu and /whois elkbuntu_ and you'll see that xchat is not to blame. All i did was change my 'User Name' and started a new server tab
[06:34] <lexko> i got in this time
[06:35] <elkbuntu> what did you have to change?
[06:35] <lexko> well it is NOT a solution. I logged in using a different account "n=notkurt"
[06:36] <elkbuntu> lexko, pray tell.. are you a. using ubuntu and b. using the xchat provided in the repositories?
[06:36] <lexko> yes :P
[06:36] <lexko> and yes
[06:36] <elkbuntu> xchat, not xchat-gnome?
[06:36] <lexko> er xchat-gnom
[06:36] <lexko> ahh
[06:37] <elkbuntu> that is likely your problem
[06:37] <lexko> okie doke....so if I go ahead and install xchat I should be good to go...and then file a report w/ chat-gnome?
[06:38] <elkbuntu> lexko, yep
[06:38] <lexko> thanks
[07:18] <mneptok> nalioth: there's GAIM/Pidgin ...
[07:29] <elkbuntu> mneptok, please 'finish' karlos
[07:32] <effie_jayx> yeah,,, mneptok ... finish him!
[07:33] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  any special fatality :D??? 
[07:45] <elkbuntu> oh shit. the channel ban list is full
[07:47] <elkbuntu> btw, karlosII is a ban evader
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: which channel?
[07:50] <elkbuntu> #ubuntu
[08:02] <elkbuntu> that should give us some breathing space
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> ...we filled it with the +L?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu, effie_jayx: Either of you familiar with packaging from SVN able to handhold a little in -motu?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> (nobody's awake :( )
[08:06] <effie_jayx> sorry... svn is not my cup of tea yet :(
[08:22] <elkbuntu> * #ubuntu n=prince S0106001485e91e9e.ed.shawcable.net irc.freenode.net Rabiddog H :0 KarlosII
[08:22] <elkbuntu> * #ubuntu n=prince S0106001485e91e9e.ed.shawcable.net irc.freenode.net Whateva H :0 KarlosII
[09:45] <Seveas> gnomefreak, source-o-matic is still maintained...
[10:06] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ah ok last i looked it didnt look like it was
[10:35] <Amaranth> !worksforme
[10:35] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[10:45] <elkbuntu> Seveas, we need to go through and decide which bans to keep and which to let go. we ran out of ban list space today
[10:45] <ompaul> elkbuntu, on which channel?
[10:45] <elkbuntu> ompaul, #ubuntu
[10:46] <ompaul> elkbuntu, short story long - take out anything that is there more than two months and see how you do then
[10:46] <elkbuntu> ompaul, i removed all of mine that were more than a month old
[10:46] <ompaul> leave the specials that are there from the net split
[10:46] <ompaul> there are some choice ones in there
[10:47] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, they are prime beef for removal :)
[10:47] <ompaul> if they are older than two weeks
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: getting on it - a sec
[10:48] <elkbuntu> yep. the fellow that was ban evading was KarlosII btw. was telling newbies to use some fandangled script, and trolled when he was told why it was bad
[10:49] <ompaul> mutes are interesting
[10:49] <ompaul> I think a lot of mutes are okay 
[10:49] <ompaul> if we get caught I will be back in a few hours and can start putting some in again
[10:50] <elkbuntu> so i removed him, he came back in, called everyone who said not to use the script 'noobs', so i banned him. got PM'd 'KarlosII> so u want to play games', he obviously reset his router or something and then brought in two others, rabiddog and whateva when that was removed. i missed them joining because i was trying to make some ban list space
[10:52] <ompaul> Hobbsee, about to rip out your mutes in the ubuntu list channel needs ban space 
[10:53] <elkbuntu> anyway, dinner
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> That ought to take care of mine
[10:54] <elkbuntu> ompaul, btw, is #ubuntu at the max for ban list limits?
[10:54] <Hobbsee> ompaul: go for it
[10:54] <ompaul> elkbuntu, afik yes
[10:54] <elkbuntu> geez
[10:54] <elkbuntu> i'd hate for us to get much bigger then, tbh
[10:55] <ompaul> take out -readtopic in july 
[10:55] <ompaul> that should give you enough space
[10:55] <ompaul> I have to go
[10:55] <rob> there is probably a lot of stale bans though
[10:55] <ompaul> rob, yeap
[10:56] <rob> some are from May, they all need to go pretty much
[10:56] <ompaul> looking at it for a quick hit get about 50 out of there
[10:56] <ompaul> rob, be careful anyone in the sagan list with nick@ is more than likely there for very good reason 
[10:56] <rob> ompaul, yep I know
[10:56] <ompaul> as you would :P
[10:57] <ompaul>  *!*@*SOME-ip I would use ban tracker to work out why such a ban 
[10:57] <ompaul> anyway I am off food needed
[10:58] <rob> @btlogin
[10:58] <gnomefreak> did one of you guys catch the spam in #ubuntu?
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> nope
[10:59] <rob> klined :)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> on ok
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> Looks like a good chunk of *!*@IP bans are Seveas' remaining.
[11:01] <gnomefreak> we can use a clean on bans soon
[11:01] <gnomefreak> >400 in #ubuntu atm
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> eep
[11:13] <rob> okay, I've cleaned up a lot of old stale isp host bans (good chance they are dynamic ip/hosts), could use more cleanup still though but should get us though for a while
[11:16] <rob> does anyone realise http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi is down?
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> rob: yes - new url
[11:16] <rob> hmm, might want to fix the bot then :)
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> rob: https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/ Update your bookmarks
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> yeah, that true
[11:19] <rob> hmm my AMD64 and 32 bit firefox pages are coming a long nicely :)
[11:19] <rob> on the wiki
[11:22] <gnomefreak> !bot
[11:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:38] <jenda> ompaul: ?
[12:58] <bony> hi i am unable to log in to #ubuntu channel what is the problem?:
[12:58] <bony> what could be the problem?
[01:01] <PriceChild> Hi bony, one second please.
[01:02] <PriceChild> bony, you have been banforwarded into #ubuntu-read-topic, please read the topic there for a description of the problem :)
[01:03] <bony> dose that mean i am not allowed to log into ubuntu?
[01:04] <PriceChild> wasn't me!
[01:19] <bhuvan_> PriceChild, thanks for the help :-)
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Seveas: -1 for gazzak ops.  hard to abuse him that way.
[01:43] <elkbuntu> lol
[02:53] <Gary> Hobbsee, :'(
[03:55] <ompaul> Gary, she gone :P
[03:55] <Gary> phew
[03:55] <Gary> :-)
[03:56] <Gary> it's quite quiet today
[03:57] <ompaul> Gary, please tempt thee not the fate of IRC :)
[03:57] <Gary> oops, oh yeah
[03:57] <ompaul> !ops - anyone actually object to me going in and ripping out the *!* that are over a month old in #ubuntu?
[03:58] <ompaul> de bot sayz nuddin
[03:58] <ompaul> !ops
[03:58] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:58] <ubotu> ompaul called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[03:58] <ompaul>  anyone actually object to me going in and ripping out the *!* that are over a month old in #ubuntu?
[03:58] <ompaul> still trying to leave the specials
[03:58] <Hobbsee> ompaul: should be OK
[03:59] <ompaul> Hobbsee, lets get three people other than me to agree with me ;-) so you are one 
[03:59] <ompaul> ahh don't leave her there on her own :)
[04:00] <Gary> ompaul, can you set GC cloaks?
[04:00] <ompaul> where you gc for?
[04:00] <ompaul> and I can 
[04:00] <Gary> can Venko get a @colchester-lug/member/Venko cloak please?
[04:00] <ompaul> or is it yours 
[04:01] <ompaul> ohh this one I know already
[04:01] <Gary> :-)
[04:01] <ompaul> Gary, done
[04:02] <Gary> thanks sweetheart
[04:06] <elkbuntu> ompaul, no objection
[04:07] <ompaul> elkbuntu, thanks now all I wants is one more :)
[04:07] <ompaul> I wantz it
[04:39] <ompaul> jenda, ^^back to say !ops 
[04:40] <ompaul> all I wantz is a +1
[04:41] <nalioth> +1 for what?
[04:46] <Gary> having a tidy up of old bans in #ubuntu 
[05:13] <elkbuntu> did anyone else get ctcp version requests from frafu?
[05:13] <elkbuntu> nalioth, ompaul?
[05:13] <Pici> Not I.
[05:13] <elkbuntu> i did. twice
[05:24] <nalioth> not i, elkbuntu 
[05:27] <elkbuntu> apparantly he did it accidentally while looking at my details :-/
[05:29] <nalioth> um-hum
[05:31] <Gary> elkbuntu, you have a stalker :p
[05:32] <elkbuntu> i have several
[05:32] <elkbuntu> aoirthoir and \sh fall into that general category
[05:33] <Gary> awww, I only have nice stalkers, I do cuteness vetting
[05:58] <jenda> ompaul: no objection here
[06:15] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, see PM
[06:36] <PriceChild> *Loves BBQs*
[06:37] <PriceChild> first bit of decent weather since what... june?
[06:38] <LongPointyStick> Dear $worldingeneral.  I am terrible at calling people back, or sending people SMS's back.  The time i usually think to do such things is 2am local time, and I dont think you'd appreciate a phonecall at that time, if you're anywhere near australian timezone.  that is all.
[06:42] <ompaul> LongPointyStick, at least you remember, and then are considerate :-) this you can always claim
[06:43] <LongPointyStick> oh, only from time to time
[06:43] <LongPointyStick> i expect people to know this, and not get irate when i dont reply to them.
[06:50] <ompaul> okay may I ask a favour
[06:50] <ompaul> I have a large list of bans - should I do it as one blot and we mute the channel for 15 or so seconds 
[06:51] <ompaul> or advise them that it is about to happen
[06:51] <ompaul> and it is going to annoy for a second
[06:51] <ompaul> or three with a minute warning 
[06:51] <Gary> just mute it, safer?
[06:51] <Gary> with a "sorry, just housekeeping" message
[06:51] <ompaul> hmm 
[06:51] <ompaul> elkbuntu, ?
[06:51] <ompaul> jenda, ?
[06:52] <ompaul> PriceChild, ^^ as per Gary 
[06:55] <Gary> looked good
[06:55] <elkbuntu> yeah... a quick mute with a warning is probably better
[06:57] <nalioth> ompaul: mute the channel? for what purpose?
[06:57] <ompaul> done
[06:57] <Gary> how many cleared bans was that ompaul 
[06:57] <ompaul> nalioth, so the conversations would not be lost or interfered with while the large list of unbans took place
[06:57] <ompaul> Gary, I just selected them and let it roll
[06:58] <nalioth> ompaul: i don't see that being a problem
[06:58] <nalioth> it's not like it's done hourly or daily
[06:58] <ompaul> nalioth, I did a *large* amount 
[06:58] <ompaul> :)
[06:58] <nalioth> i saw it
[06:58] <ompaul> anyway there was  a housekeeping warning before it twice
[07:00] <ompaul> Gary, 59 or 60
[07:01] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, NOTiSEC said: ubotu: This is about Ubuntu
[07:23] <mrmonday> any ops around?
[07:23] <nalioth> mrmonday: nope
[07:24] <mrmonday> oh ok
[07:24] <nalioth> mrmonday: what's up?
[07:25] <mrmonday> someone needs to set guard on for #ubuntu+2
[07:25] <mrmonday> I joined it and it has +if #ubuntu+1
[07:25] <mrmonday> which aren't enforced
[07:25] <mrmonday> as chanserv isn't there
[07:46] <ubotu> r00723r0 called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:49] <PriceChild> I added the Council approval to the CC Agenda again.
[08:50] <PriceChild> I'd like some steel toed boots
[08:51] <PriceChild> I've got some really old german paras boots which are capped with something... not steel though, and they're waterproof about 3,4 inches above ankles so great for hiking
[08:51] <nalioth> toe caps or toe taps?
[08:51] <PriceChild> hehe
[08:51] <PriceChild> shh nalioth :)
[08:52] <nalioth> huh?
[08:52] <PriceChild> caps.
[08:52] <nalioth> are the boots with caps on top (toe caps) or taps on the bottom ?
[08:52] <PriceChild> nevermind... guess i miss-understood :)
[08:52] <PriceChild> on top
[08:53] <Gary> PriceChild, I have some, work ones, makes me look all butch
[08:53] <nalioth> because the germans have had both types
[08:53] <PriceChild> hehe
[08:53] <PriceChild> Gary, and you don't look butch without them?
[08:53] <PriceChild> wow
[08:55] <Gary> nalioth, I used to go to a military boarding school, we used to have a great armoury, with loads of kit, plus I drove a challenger II main battle tank at age 11 :-)
[08:55] <PriceChild> I've always wanted to own a tank.
[08:56] <nalioth> Gary: no wonder the British military is the way it is . . . 
[08:56] <PriceChild> hehe :)
[08:56] <Gary> oi
[08:56] <Gary> my dad used to be in the REME
[08:57] <PriceChild> reme?
[08:57] <Gary> royal electrical & mechanical engineers - the armys RAC
[08:58] <Gary> nalioth, I also work on a military garrison :p
[08:58] <nalioth> Gary: you do?
[08:58] <Gary> I get to see army men all day :-)
[09:48] <ubotu> In ubotu, sehe said: !TIMTOWTDI is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=TIMTOWTDI
[10:40] <PriceChild> Evening gnomefreak.
[10:54] <gnomefreak> good evening PriceChild