[03:03] <Brian___> edubuntu is good for collage :-p
[03:43] <ti-grrr> i loaded edubuntu today on a server that used to be a k12ltsp. i have noticed that it seems alot slower than k12ltsp. are there any tips?
[04:30] <sbalneav> Evening all
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[08:57] <sbalneav> night all
[12:46] <Nubae> hello
[12:47] <Nubae> I'm trying to enable usb disks and pendrives on a ltsp system (on the terminals) using a script I found at the ubuntu wiki... but it says its for 4.2, and doesnt seem to work
[12:48] <Nubae> is there a easy way to do this?
[12:56] <Nubae> anyone?
[02:43] <Nubae> invoke-rc.d: initscript dbus, action "start" failed. <-- I get this error with dbus, and I cannot seem to fix it... anyone run into this problem?
[02:43] <Nubae> this is in a chrooted ltsp env.
[02:46] <aalib> hey dude
[02:47] <Nubae> hi aalib
[02:47] <aalib> i need help!!
[02:47] <aalib> big help!
[02:47] <Nubae> well me too... dont think anyone is around...
[02:47] <Nubae> tell me your problem and I'll tell you mine :-)
[02:48] <aalib> hehe
[02:48] <Nubae> (02:42:58 PM) Nubae: invoke-rc.d: initscript dbus, action "start" failed. <-- I get this error with dbus, and I cannot seem to fix it... anyone run into this problem?
[02:48] <Nubae> (02:43:26 PM) Nubae: this is in a chrooted ltsp env.
[02:48] <aalib> got problems with my ati drivers
[02:48] <Nubae> hah, well there I can help you
[02:48] <Nubae> just went through that
[02:48] <Nubae> with ltsp?
[02:48] <aalib> itsp???
[02:49] <Nubae> LTSP
[02:49] <Nubae> terminal server
[02:49] <aalib> btw im N00b itseems
[02:49] <Nubae> ahh... ok
[02:49] <Nubae> so, normal edubuntu install then?
[02:49] <aalib> jst ubuntu 7.04
[02:49] <Nubae> why u here on edubuntu then?
[02:50] <Nubae> anyway... u need the fglrx driver to install ati on ubuntu in most cases
[02:51] <aalib> hw do i do dat
[02:51] <Nubae> well, can u get to X at all?
[02:52] <aalib> nopes?
[02:52] <aalib> X?
[02:53] <Nubae> hehe, ok, best bet is to check one of the many how tos in ubuntuforums.org
[02:53] <aalib> cheking
[02:54] <Nubae> gotta run
[04:33] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:34] <sbalneav> ogra: Hey, I added a check to ltsp-update-image to check and see if proc's mounted.
[06:11] <dv310p3r> Hello
[06:11] <dv310p3r> I am looking for some help with edubuntu
[06:12] <dv310p3r> Anyone?
[06:28] <sbalneav> dv310p3r: What's your problem?
[06:47] <dv310p3r> I have installed Edubuntu after running the Live CD first, and it doesn't seem to be the same thing. The live CD was perfect for my kids, but the actual install is void of all the apps that the Live CD had.
[06:47] <dv310p3r> I want to run something that the kids can use without having to log in.
[06:48] <dv310p3r> Right now, i am installing the Add On cd, but everytime I try to add something, it has a conflict of some sort or another.
[06:54] <dv310p3r> Anyone there?
[07:04] <dv310p3r> Bueller?
[07:13] <sbalneav> dv310p3r: You need to install the second cd
[07:13] <sbalneav> edubuntu got so big, it wouldn't fit all on one cd, so all the educational apps got put on the second cd.
[07:13] <Nuba1> hey sbalneav... working on a weekend :-)
[07:14] <sbalneav> Hello Nuba1
[07:14] <Nuba1> we talked the other day... I have a massive issue with hald and dbus
[07:14] <Nuba1> they're broken in the chroot environment
[07:15] <Nuba1> seems circular problem cause I cant remove or install stuff to a big extent without getting back to the same point
[07:15] <sbalneav> Well, we've done no work on hald and dbus in the chroot.  It doesn't surprise me it doesn't work.
[07:16] <Nuba1> oh
[07:16] <sbalneav> In fact, one of the major things that holds us up is that dbus isn't network aware.
[07:16] <Nuba1> oh and how would I connect a usb drive then?
[07:16] <Nuba1> pen drive
[07:16] <sbalneav> The way we do it now.
[07:16] <sbalneav> pen drives work fine in edubuntu.
[07:17] <Nuba1> hmmm... well thats what got me into this mess, trying to get a pendrive on the local system to work
[07:18] <sbalneav> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
[07:18] <Nuba1> ok... I went through a similar wiki... but I'll do this one too
[07:19] <Nuba1> I've probably messed up my local apt-get now with this hald and dbus issue... can I remove them somehow and get back to the default
[07:20] <sbalneav> You, of course, made a backup copy of your chroot before you started playing with it?
[07:20] <Nuba1> well... ummm
[07:20] <Nuba1> god... I was gonna make a backup when everything was working properly 8-)
[07:21] <Nuba1> so... install a copy of edubuntu on another disk and copy over chroot?
[07:21] <sbalneav> mv /opt/ltsp/ /opt/ltsp.mucked_up
[07:22] <sbalneav> ltsp-build-client
[07:22] <Nuba1> ok, thanks a lot
[07:22] <sbalneav> And, once you've got a clean chroot created...
[07:23] <Nuba1> back it up :-)
[07:23] <sbalneav> a quick cp -r /opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp.pristine saves a lot of waiting.
[07:23] <Nuba1> yeah can see the benefit in that now :-/
[07:24] <Nuba1> so, XGL is not supported at all under LTSP?
[07:24] <sbalneav> No, trying to do fancy graphics over the wire just isn't a good idea.
[07:25] <sbalneav> Well, off to the beach for the day.
[07:25] <Amaranth> large textures over the wire == ouch
[07:25] <Nuba1> enjoy, thanks a lot
[07:25] <sbalneav> I'll be afk 'till tonght