[05:25] <nixternal> anyone have success with the Oxygen-style LaTeX template on kde.org/kdeslides?
[05:26] <daSkreech> kdeslides?
[05:26] <nixternal> ya, presentations
[05:27] <robotgeek> someone should do their thesis work using that template :)
[05:27] <nixternal> heh
[05:27] <nixternal> I can't get it to work correctly
[05:28] <robotgeek> thank god for latex, my thesis formatting was done in 15 minutes
[05:28] <nixternal> I am trying to learn it
[05:28] <daSkreech> nixternal: not Kpresenter?
[05:28] <nixternal> kpresenter is garbage
[05:28] <robotgeek> nixternal: get vim-latexsuite, it is very useful
[05:28] <daSkreech> totally agree
[05:29] <nixternal> I am using Kile
[05:29] <daSkreech>  in fact I keep asking the Koffice team to break down and cry fr help
[05:29] <robotgeek> also, openoffice to latex convertor helps you cheat on tables :)
[05:55] <nixternal> booyah! I got it
[05:56] <robotgeek> nixternal: got what?
[05:56] <nixternal> it had \definecolor{oxygenblue}{HTML}{236eaf}
[05:56] <nixternal> so I converted that to
[05:56] <nixternal> \definecolor{oxygenblue}{RGB}{35,110,175}
[06:26] <daSkreech> Mez!
[06:26] <manchicken_> Okay, who's a perler?
[06:26] <manchicken_> err, pythoner?
[06:28] <robotgeek> manchicken: i write some from time to time
[06:28] <manchicken> I'm having some problems with importing.
[06:29] <manchicken> I've got a path, resolvconf, and then resolvconf/ui.  I'm having a hard time importing a module in resolvconf/ui from another module in the same path.
[06:32] <robotgeek> manchicken: I am not sure how to debug this, but python documentation says module search paths are locatd from sys.path
[06:33] <robotgeek> http://docs.python.org/tut/node8.html
[06:47] <Mez> daSkreech, ?
[06:47] <daSkreech_> Sup?
[06:47] <nixternal> didn't you hug me once :)
[06:47] <nixternal> congrats on the new job btw!
[06:47] <daSkreech_> You just really busy so I catch MeZtime when I can
[06:49] <Mez> ty nixternal
[06:49] <nixternal> manchicken: are you trying to load the ui file?
[06:49] <manchicken> Naw, I'm working with pure-python modues
[06:49] <nixternal> or are you trying to load a seperate py file
[06:50] <manchicken> Separate py file.
[06:50] <manchicken> It's weird, because it doesn't really seem to be working like the docs say it should be
[06:51] <nixternal> how do you have it right now?
[06:51] <daSkreech_> Mez: about the wiki and forum I
[06:51] <Mez> ... what about them?
[06:52] <daSkreech_> am in a little net flux now I'll get back to maintaining them once it settles
[06:52] <daSkreech_> should be by Tuesday next week
[06:52] <daSkreech_>  why were they down the other day?
[06:53] <ScottK> manchicken: If you start python, import sys and then print sys.path you'll be able to see what the actual Python path is.
[06:53] <nixternal> manchicken: from resolvconf.ui import whatever
[06:53] <nixternal> does that only work if you have a blank __init__.py in the ui dir?
[06:53] <ScottK> manchicken: Also you can insert things into sys.path just like any other list.
[06:55] <ScottK> usually init.py isn't blank, but I haven't written one, so I can't tell you what goes in one normally.
[06:55] <nixternal> import resolvconf.ui.module_you_want_to_import
[06:55] <nixternal> a blank init.py just references anything in the directory it is located in
[06:55] <nixternal> s/anything/everything
[06:55] <manchicken>     from netweaver.resolv.resolvconf import ResolvConf
[06:55] <manchicken> ImportError: No module named netweaver.resolv.resolvconf
[06:56] <manchicken> I get that, but there is a netweaver/resolv/resolvconf.py with a ResolvConf class defined within it
[06:56] <ScottK> Ah.
[06:56] <manchicken> And the path actually looks right.
[06:56] <nixternal> manchicken: try adding a blank __init__.py in each directory just to see if that works...you can always remove it
[06:57] <nixternal> it works for me(TM) on a project I am working on
[06:57] <manchicken> Weird.
[06:57] <manchicken> That helps
[06:57] <ScottK> Good night all.
[06:58] <nixternal> I know the __init__.py files are used to make Python use directories containing packages
[06:58] <nixternal> using it that way, you can do 'import netweaver.resolv.resolvcomf.ResolvConf
[06:59] <nixternal> g'nite ScottK
[07:15] <manchicken> nixternal: Okay, do you know how to call the super-classes init?
[07:16] <nixternal> what is the name of the superclass?
[07:17] <nixternal> super(class_name,self).__init__()
[07:17] <nixternal> I believe that is how you do it
[07:24] <manchicken> I found a way to do it.
[07:24] <manchicken>         myself = super(ResolvConfUi, cls).__new__(cls, binder)
[07:25] <nixternal> ahh, OK
[07:58] <manchicken> This is a crazy error message
[07:58] <manchicken> RuntimeError: underlying C/C++ object has been deleted
[08:25] <DaSkreech> http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/
[03:02] <never|FrOSCon> Riddell: ping
[03:06] <_Sime> oh, FrOSCon, that's why everyone is so quiet
[06:55] <danimo> hi
[06:55] <danimo> Riddell: ping?
[07:03] <nixternal> danimo: great book btw!
[07:04] <danimo> nixternal: tnx!
[08:49] <TheInfinity> argh. linux does not like hfs+ any more :/
[11:30] <fdoving> grrr.. apparmor sucks.
[11:30] <fdoving> killed my printing.
[11:44] <Riddell> known issue
[11:55] <ryanakca> Riddell: ping, did you get my email (for egroupware)?
[12:13] <Riddell> ryanakca: yes, will get to it soon
[12:13] <ryanakca> Riddell: thanks :)