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Karti!es | chollo12:35
ubotuchollo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:35
chollotanks12:36
zgmf-x20ahmm.. hey maybe a solution, but not sure if it can be done.  can i upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 with either the alternate or live cds?12:38
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zgmf-x20acan i upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 with either the alternate or live cds?12:39
drifzgmf-x20a: not sure where BluesKaj threw realtek into air..but I'd look for intel based12:40
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zgmf-x20adrif: aight let me do a search on that, but hey do you knoe if i can do a straight upgrade with the 7.04 cd??12:42
lorenzlist12:42
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zgmf-x20adrif: also, the netwrok into is for the wireless ...  not the hard wired, which im trying to fix first12:43
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drifzgmf-x20a: then look for 3945ABG and 4965AGN12:44
zgmf-x20adrif: yes i will, but im not concerned with wireless at the moment, the most impt thing is the hardware internet connection12:45
zgmf-x20aerm hardline i mean12:45
drifzgmf-x20a: I guess you could add you 7.04 cd as repository and do dist-upgrade.. not sure if it works or is safe though12:45
zgmf-x20ahmmm yah me netiehr....12:45
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drifzgmf-x20a: I'm not quite following your driver needs there..12:46
zgmf-x20alol.  basically, i need to get unknown device 1969:1048 (rev b0) up and running somehow12:47
drifzgmf-x20a: which is network device?12:47
drifzgmf-x20a: your LAN is Attansic L1 gigabit and WLAN either 3945ABG and/or 4965AGN - what else do you need?12:48
Dave132how do I deal with the items in the lost and found?12:48
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Angeluswhat options i must use to open konqueror as a web browser instead of file manager?12:48
yottais there any way to get  konsole to use a PCF font.12:48
Raleskjust run simply konqueror, methinks > Angelus12:48
drifAngelus: it functions as both..just add http:// and it's web browser12:48
drifAngelus: on the address bar12:49
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martinezwelcome12:50
yottaI wanna use ProFont in konsole... I suppose I could use the ttf verison12:50
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martinezquestion: many diffrences between alternate & desktop?? because i perform to install...12:51
drifmartinez: one difference is the installation environment I think - desktop is graphical and alternative ins't - helps troubleshooting some cases12:52
zgmf-x20adrif: lol, i dont need to use wireless right now, i need the ethernet controller up and running12:52
zgmf-x20adrif: ok so i found the solution but not sure how to do it12:52
drifzgmf-x20a: lol to yourself..LAN is ETHERNET controller not WLAN12:53
Angelushmm strange thing, when i try to use Konqueror with Amsn to open the hotmail emails, it keeps loading, but with other webrowsers like opera and firefox it works fine12:53
mariooliveirahello  how do i install firefox. i download firefox and  untar it to /opt/firefox/ folder12:53
drifzgmf-x20a: ethernet and network controller - same thing12:53
zgmf-x20adrif: ok.  lol.  so, how do i install this :atl1 driver in kernel >=2.6.2212:53
zgmf-x20a?????????12:53
Dave132how do i delete the items in lost and found?12:53
drifzgmf-x20a: try modprobe12:54
martinezdrif: and which is better?12:54
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zgmf-x20adrif: i have no idea what that is12:54
zgmf-x20alol12:54
drifwhere did you find abou this :atl1?12:54
drifabout12:54
zgmf-x20ahttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_F3SC12:55
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martinezdrif: maybe another question, can i easy install alternate or it's pain of head?12:55
zgmf-x20adrif: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_F3SC12:55
drifmartinez: both should be quite similar12:55
drifzgmf-x20a: try in console 'sudo find / -iname '*atl1*'12:56
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drifzgmf-x20a: so we can locate if it's already there or do we need to download it from somewhere12:56
titancompuIs it possible to increase the swap size of my partition without reformatting?12:56
zgmf-x20anothing happened12:57
driftitancompu: yes, you can either create additional swap partition and activate it - or create simple swap files on any partition12:57
zgmf-x20adrif: input the code, asked me for password and went straight back to prompt12:57
drifzgmf-x20a: ok, so there's no atl1 driver around12:57
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drifzgmf-x20a: but you gave your password, right?12:57
titancompuHow would I go aobut creating the simple swap files?12:57
zgmf-x20adrif:yup gave the password12:57
drifzgmf-x20a: ok, then find didn't find anything12:58
zgmf-x20adrif: and went striaght back to prompt12:58
drifzgmf-x20a: yup, understood that earlier12:58
zgmf-x20adrif: cool, so how do i install the driver??12:58
zgmf-x20aand where do i find something like that?12:58
drifzgmf-x20a: go to adep manager (if using kde) and search for atl12:58
drifadept12:59
zgmf-x20ai cant, remeber?  no internet connection on the laptop12:59
zgmf-x20adrif: i am currently on my desktop, fyi12:59
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driftitancompu: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile (<-you can pick the location here) bs=1024k count=256 (that would create swap file size of 256MB)01:00
driftitancompu: you need to yet active it though01:00
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zgmf-x20adrif: found it....  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=18492101:01
drifzgmf-x20a: which comp has network connection?01:01
zgmf-x20adrif: can you help me install it though?01:01
drifzgmf-x20a: good01:01
drifzgmf-x20a: we'll see what I can do about it01:02
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zgmf-x20adrif: putting it on usb key and putting it on the laptop, one sec01:02
drifzgmf-x20a: is that source code?01:02
intelikeyhowto mount an nfs dir ?01:03
drifintelikey: mount 192.168.1.40:/mountdir/mountdir /mnt/mynfsdir (that's bare format, you can use options: see 'man mount')01:04
zgmf-x20adrif: ok, how do i install this file???01:04
intelikeydrif thank you.     one other thing, does that have to be configured in fstab on the other box ?01:04
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drifzgmf-x20a: copy it somewhere and extract with tar xvzf yourtarfile01:05
drifintelikey: nope, just exist on /etc/exports01:05
drifintelikey: on the server side01:05
intelikeyk thanks.01:06
drifintelikey: remember to use exportfs -a after adding/modifying that file01:06
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drifzgmf-x20a: after that cd to dir and 'sudo make install'01:06
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intelikeydrif ???  -bash: exportfs: command not found01:07
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zgmf-x20ahow do i cd to the home folder???01:07
drifintelikey: are you sure you have nfs-server installed then?01:07
drifintelikey: on which machine you ran exportfs then?01:08
zgmf-x20asry man, never really install anything this way drif01:08
drifzgmf-x20a: cd /home/yourusername or cd ~01:08
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drifzgmf-x20a: after that cd to the directory tar xvzf just created for you01:09
intelikeyoh  installing     nfs-user-server     oops   ;/01:09
drifintelikey: hehe ;)01:09
drifintelikey: why not nfs-kernel-server?01:09
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intelikeydrif userspace is prefered in this particular applaction01:10
zgmf-x20adrif: that didnt work....  argh.... i need to pay someone to make me a program that converts tar files to simple installer files01:10
driftitancompu: still here - remember to swapon /yourswaplocation to active it01:10
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drifzgmf-x20a: didn't work? be more decriptive01:11
drifintelikey: ok01:11
intelikeyzgmf-x20a what app is it ?     you did search the repos didn't you ?01:11
drifzgmf-x20a: it's driver - and he's not able to access repos atm01:11
drifsorry that was for intelikey01:11
intelikeyok  just catching up\01:11
driftab-habit accident :D01:11
zgmf-x20adrif: lol.  ok, so i actually doubleclicked the file, then pressed the extract button in ark.  it made a folder in my home folder.01:12
drifzgmf-x20a: but you still need to open up terminal window to compile it01:12
zgmf-x20aso then i typed cd /home/zgmf-x20a01:12
zgmf-x20ain terminal01:12
drifzgmf-x20a: yes, but you still need one cd01:12
zgmf-x20aand then typed sudo make install01:12
zgmf-x20a......  one cd?01:12
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-ronpaululz:#kubuntu- lol g, join ##ronpaul and stop the JEWISH MACHINE visit http://ronpaul.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #kubuntu SUCKS01:12
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hydrogenlawl01:13
drifzgmf-x20a: it extracted the package on your home level?01:13
hydrogenthat was exciting01:13
hydrogenhmm01:13
drifzgmf-x20a: usually it creates directory which has same name as the package - to keep things organized01:13
hydrogenwhen running gwenview I get a segfault01:13
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zgmf-x20adrif: ermm i told it to extract there, well, it was the default extract location01:13
zgmf-x20alol, yes it did do that01:13
drifzgmf-x20a: well did the sudo make install work?01:14
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zgmf-x20aafter i typed the sudo make install it said "make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop."01:14
drifzgmf-x20a: and you're 100% sure you don't have to enter one more directory level?01:15
zgmf-x20adrif: ummmmm no,....  lol01:15
intelikeyzgmf-x20a extracting the content of a tar archive into your home dir will simply make a new subdir in your home with the content in there.   you will have to cd into the subdir to build the source01:15
zgmf-x20ayes, the theory i understand, i just dont know how to get there01:16
drifzgmf-x20a: just humour me and do 'cd atl1-2.0.7-linux.2.6.20'01:16
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drifzgmf-x20a: and after that try 'sudo make install' again01:16
intelikeydrif no configure needed ?01:17
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drifzgmf-x20a: just humour me and do 'cd atl1-2.0.7-linux-2.6.20' (sorry first had typo)01:17
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drifintelikey: nope01:17
zgmf-x20ait bashed it, ok one sec let me retype01:17
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drifzgmf-x20a: you can also type cd atl1 (and press tab to complete rest)01:18
intelikey!tab | zgmf-x20a01:19
ubotuzgmf-x20a: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.01:19
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Angeluscan somone tell me how to set konqueror to open in home page01:19
intelikeyand  ls   (that is lower case L S)  to list the content of any dir01:20
drifAngelus: as default?01:20
Angelusyeah01:20
zgmf-x20adrif: ummm.... ok, so i did that, then i did sudo make install, and it came up with a very long list of errors01:20
Angelusi want, when i open konqueror the homepage comes up01:20
intelikeyAngelus set the default home page in the konq config01:20
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drifAngelus: Settings->Configure Konqueror->Home URL:01:20
Angelusyeah i setted that drif01:21
Angelusbut still01:21
drifAngelus: still?01:21
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Angeluswhen i open konqueror it open in that Welcome to konqueror01:21
intelikeyAngelus in konq's menu   configure it and set the home page as you like.      it works01:21
Angeluspage01:21
Angelus:/01:21
intelikeyhome page != startup page01:21
Angelusno man01:22
zgmf-x20adrif: so i pressed cd, and am back to zgmf-x20a@zgmf-x20a-laptop:~$01:22
Angeluswhen konqueror starts01:22
Angelusthat Welcome to konqueror page comes up01:22
intelikeyyes man.  it's in the same settings.01:22
intelikeylook again01:22
drifzgmf-x20a: pressed cd?01:22
zgmf-x20adrif: ptypeing cd doesnt bring me anywhere, just to the exact same prompt01:23
intelikeycd alone always takes you to your home dir01:23
drifzgmf-x20a: did I say to type _just_ cd? no.01:23
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zgmf-x20ayah, thats where i am01:23
zgmf-x20adrif: lol.01:23
drifzgmf-x20a: I said cd atl1 (and press tab) _then_ enter01:23
zgmf-x20ayah i did that last time01:24
zgmf-x20athen at this point i typs sudo make install01:24
drifzgmf-x20a: what can you see with ls?01:24
drifzgmf-x20a: one line is enough info01:24
intelikeyummm use konq and enter the folder and use the "open a konsole here" command in the menu01:24
zgmf-x20adrif: , do you want me to type them all out?01:24
zgmf-x20adrif:01:25
zgmf-x20aok01:25
drifzgmf-x20a: yes? could you say it01:25
zgmf-x20athe first liune says:  atl1_ethtool.c  atl1_hw.c  atl1_main.c  CHANGELOG  README01:26
drifzgmf-x20a: ok, you're in right directory now01:26
drifzgmf-x20a: 'sudo make install'01:26
Angelusdrif: what i want to set is the startup page of konqueror01:26
zgmf-x20adrif: SAME THING AS LAST TIME, CRAZY LONG LIST OF ERRORS01:26
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zgmf-x20aoops01:27
zgmf-x20asry abt caps01:27
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rjuneanybody know where I could find termcap for fiesty?01:27
xstWhen I play videos with Kaffeine the image is completely garbled while the sound is OK. How can I fix this?01:27
Biovorewmv?01:28
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zgmf-x20axst: vlc media player, and your set01:28
rjunexst: do you have the w32 codec package instlled?01:28
xstrjune: Don't know01:28
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xstrjune: How can I check it?01:28
rjunethen you probably don't. you have to manually install it01:28
xstwhat is it called?01:28
drifzgmf-x20a: just in case 'sudo apt-get install fakeroot build-essential linux-kernel-devel'01:28
zgmf-x20adrif: apt get?  but i have no internet?  well lets try it and see01:29
intelikey:::  tty24 [root@~]  ls /var/cache/apt/archives/01:29
intelikeyls: /var/cache/apt/archives/: Permission denied01:29
drifzgmf-x20a: sorry I keep forgetting01:29
intelikey?01:29
drifzgmf-x20a: do you have cd?01:29
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drifzgmf-x20a: it acts as an repository as well01:29
drifzgmf-x20a: installation cd01:29
drifintelikey: what are you doing? :)01:30
intelikeynfs mount there01:30
xstrjune: I already have installed the "w32codecs" package but the image is still garbled01:30
Biovorewmv01:30
Biovore?01:30
drifintelikey: ehm?01:30
zgmf-x20adrif: yah that said couldnt find package fakeroot01:30
rjunexst: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/ <--- that should help01:30
intelikeyhow can root have permission denied   ???01:30
drifzgmf-x20a: ok, don't write that then01:31
zgmf-x20adrif: and yes, i have all of them, which should i use?  7.04 alt or desktop?01:31
drifzgmf-x20a: the one you installed from01:31
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zgmf-x20adrif: that was the 6.10 desktop01:31
rjunexst: I don't remember all the details of it, but as I remember, when I ran into that problem it was either codec, or changing players01:31
drifzgmf-x20a: that then01:31
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zgmf-x20adrif: ok, its in, now what??01:32
drifzgmf-x20a: apt-get line again..01:32
drifzgmf-x20a: it didn't prompt for cd earlier?01:32
zgmf-x20anope01:33
drifzgmf-x20a: strange..01:33
drifzgmf-x20a: does 'sudo grep -i cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list' output anything?01:33
zgmf-x20adrif: nope that last one didnt output anything.  also, the apt-get line said the exact same thing as last time01:36
drifzgmf-x20a: have you modified sources.list then?01:36
zgmf-x20ait said "E; couldnt find package fakeroot"01:36
drifzgmf-x20a: I did say don'01:37
drifzgmf-x20a: I did say don't write it (fakeroot) then01:37
zgmf-x20adrif: nope, i havetn modifed anything, it is a fresh install as of abot a few hours ago01:37
drifzgmf-x20a: fresh install should have those deb cdrom: lines as default..01:37
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drifzgmf-x20a: atleast I've always had to remark those lines afterwards not to get prompts for cd all the time01:38
zgmf-x20adrif: ummm... i dont know what to tell you..  ary man, and i REALLY appreciate the help on this one01:38
drifzgmf-x20a: so try just 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'01:39
drifzgmf-x20a: probably same error :-\ we need to add those cd-repositories to sources.list next..01:39
zgmf-x20ayah, it was the same error01:39
drifzgmf-x20a: a sec01:40
zgmf-x20adrif: no problem01:40
drifzgmf-x20a: I'll have fire up my kitchen pc which I recall has 6.10 installed :D01:40
zgmf-x20adrif: lol, cool thanks man01:42
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drifzgmf-x20a: do you know how to edit text files+01:42
drifzgmf-x20a: if you have kde there's Utilities->Kate01:43
zgmf-x20adrif: noooo, i dont man, ive never had to deal with these sorts of issues b401:43
intelikeyhmmm nfs is extreemly slow on a 1m/s lan01:43
zgmf-x20aive worked with kate only once before01:43
drifzgmf-x20a: actually start it with pressing alt+f2 and then type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'01:44
drifzgmf-x20a: it prompts for password because we need root privileges to edit the file01:44
zgmf-x20adrif: ok, im there01:45
drifzgmf-x20a: ok, I'll give you the lines to add soon01:47
zgmf-x20adrif: awesome, sounds good01:48
drifzgmf-x20a: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted01:48
drifzgmf-x20a: add that line and save the file01:48
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drifzgmf-x20a: then 'sudo apt-get update'01:49
drifzgmf-x20a: and keep the cd inserted01:49
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drifzgmf-x20a: any progress?01:51
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drifintelikey: 1MB/sec on 100 LAN?01:52
intelikeydrif what 100 lan ?01:53
drifintelikey: speed..01:53
intelikeydrif what 100 lan ?01:53
drifintelikey: could be gigabit as well01:53
intelikeycould be 1m as well01:53
dr_Willis1000000000000000000000000000gb. :)01:54
intelikey:)01:54
dr_Willis10E+10 gb01:54
intelikey10^4001:54
drifintelikey: could be..but I doubt that is any ethernet standard..01:55
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zgmf-x20adrif: nope it didnt work, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded01:58
zgmf-x20adrif: sry abt the wait there01:58
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drifzgmf-x20a: which line?02:00
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drifzgmf-x20a: and what do you mean didn't work..02:00
drifzgmf-x20a: you need to say _what_ didn't work - especially after such pause in things02:01
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intelikeyi'm applying unionfs to merger more than one mount onto /var/cache/apt/archives    is there anything i should consider in this process ?02:02
zgmf-x20adrif: fair enough.  ok, this is what i did, i added the line #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted" at the end of the list in kate02:04
zgmf-x20adrif: then i went to console and typed "sudo apt-get update"02:05
drifzgmf-x20a: what #deb????02:05
zgmf-x20ano # sign?????02:05
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drifzgmf-x20a: 02:47.32 < drif> zgmf-x20a: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted02:05
drifof course no02:06
drifI'm wondering where you get that from..02:06
zgmf-x20adrif: sry, i saw all the other debs had the # sign in front02:06
drifzgmf-x20a: don't improvise ;)02:06
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zgmf-x20adrif: lol, sorry02:06
zgmf-x20adrif: ok, typed it in this time, and it is a long list of errors.02:08
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drifzgmf-x20a: just for future reference - _usually_ # in front of lines make it void02:09
zgmf-x20abut at the bottom it sayas " please ust apt-cdrom to make this cd-rom recognized by apt.  apt-get update cannot be used to add new cd-roms02:09
zgmf-x20adrif: oooo really, just like html?02:09
zgmf-x20aic ic02:09
drifzgmf-x20a: 'sudo apt-cdrom add'02:09
zgmf-x20adrif: ok, it mounted the cd rom02:11
drifzgmf-x20a: now you can add that # in front of our previous deb cdrom: line02:11
zgmf-x20adrif: then at the end unmounted the cdrom02:11
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Pupenoany ideas how to make a make (as in Makefile) rule where the output doesn't have an extension?02:12
drifzgmf-x20a: well, yes - but more like in c/c++ and other similar programming languages - html doesn't recognize # as remark/comment chracter02:12
zgmf-x20adrif: problem.  ok, so i clicked on the kate window which is still open, and it says the file has be modified by another program, what should i do????02:12
drifzgmf-x20a: close it and 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' again02:13
zgmf-x20adrif: actually, when i mounted the cd in terminal, it says that it wrote a new sources list02:13
drifzgmf-x20a: ok, then we'll try skipping it02:13
drifzgmf-x20a: do just 'sudo apt-get update'02:14
drifbut if you get errors we need to edit /etc/apt/source.list to get rid of'em02:14
UnluckyMikeI switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, when I set up my nvidia card I used "nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite --render-accel --allow-glx-with-composite --depth=24" for some reason kdm acts wierd and the background is really big and scrolls around. Any ideas??02:14
drifsources.list I mean02:14
zgmf-x20adrif: it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded again02:16
Arwenw00t, fortune command :-)02:16
Arwenit, in of itself, is enough reason to use Linux :-)02:16
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drifUnluckyMike: you need to edit Virtual directive on /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:17
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drifUnluckyMike: it's set larger than your current resolution02:17
UnluckyMikedrif: thanks02:18
dr_Williskubuntu and ubuntu should be able ot use the identical xorg.conf file.  on the same box. ;)   Sounds like your screen res is set wrongly however.02:18
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drifzgmf-x20a: try installing those fakeroot and build-essential02:19
UnluckyMikeits wierd because I use the same settings for both02:19
dr_Willisi always kepe backups of my working xorg.conf for systems :) so i can compare the different ones that disrtos make.02:19
drifdr_Willis: good practice, I do that also02:19
UnluckyMikeIve never had a problem with xorg, but I have a memory stick packed full of other config files02:20
dr_Willisits nice that many disrtos now get my widescreen correct.. but sad that not ALL of them do so.02:20
dr_Willisxorg config files have been getting simpiler as time goes on it seems. :)02:20
dr_Willisi rember the old huge xf86 config files02:21
drifzgmf-x20a: what line are you executing btw?02:21
zgmf-x20adrif: cool i will try that.  unfrotuantely i ahve to get my ass in gear here and get ready for a dinner i have to attend.  thank you again SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much for your help in this,  im going to keep plugging away at it tonigt when i get back and tomorrow until i can get it fixed.02:21
drifzgmf-x20a: because you never mention those..just 'didn't work' or other vague information..02:21
UnluckyMikein which order does xorg read first from the conf file?02:21
drifzgmf-x20a: no offense though ;)02:21
zgmf-x20adrif:well tonight i wont be able too, but i have saved the convo and will follow it thru tonight / tomorrow02:21
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dr_WillisUnluckyMike,  could check the 'startx' script. It may give that info. :)  i think its xorg.conf, then the older one. then an olderone-4 or similer.02:22
zgmf-x20adrif: lol, none taken at all, i know i need to be more descriptive with that stuff02:22
drifzgmf-x20a: you do that :) remember to 'sudo apt-get update' - from those output lines you pasted me it seems you tried 'sudo apt-get install'-line instead02:22
drifzgmf-x20a: last lines should be like Fetched XX in Xs (speed)02:23
drifzgmf-x20a: after update02:23
zgmf-x20adrif: yes ive seen that b4 using the terminal.  ok i will try that out tomorrow and hopefully get this bad boy up to speed.  the thing is im going to japan in like a month and NEED to get the laptop ready for departure!!!02:24
zgmf-x20adrif: well anyways, gotta get moving here.  take care and thanks for everything once again02:24
zgmf-x20a:)02:24
zgmf-x20ahave a good one, ttyl02:25
drifzgmf-x20a: laters, and you're welcome02:25
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UnluckyMikethanks dr_Willis, everything seems to be in order now02:27
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J-Wreckdoes KDE have an equivalent to GNOME's session-manager?02:29
drifUnluckyMike: was it something else than Virtual directive+?02:29
UnluckyMikexorg.conf had the default resolution set higher than it should02:30
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drifUnluckyMike: wouldn't that affect monitor?02:30
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dr_Willismine was set lower then it should. :)02:31
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UnluckyMikedrif it just made my monitor scroll02:31
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drifUnluckyMike: so you didn't change Virtual at all?02:31
UnluckyMikeyeah it was virtual02:32
UnluckyMikeit was set to 1920 1200 instead of 1440 90002:32
drifUnluckyMike: just wondering what I said wrong then in the first place :D02:32
UnluckyMikei was kind of out of it, watching midgets fight with cops on tv...02:33
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drifUnluckyMike: well, just in future reference - respect the help..02:34
drifUnluckyMike: none of us get paid here :D02:34
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jordi_where are the deb files allocated?02:35
jordi_those one downloaded by apt02:35
drifjordi_: /var/cache/apt/archives/02:36
jordi_ok Thanks!02:36
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dr_WillisGotta love downlaoding a game at 22k/s...  only 720:23 remaining! :)02:43
dr_Willisthats what.. 10 hrs.. :) heh02:43
drifdr_Willis: well, if that is consistent speed it's not bad after all..02:43
hydrogenthats nothing02:44
hydrogenopera told me that I had 1223 days left on a download02:44
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drifhydrogen: did you go on with it? ;)02:44
dr_Willisdrif,  heh.. gotta love 'beta testing' that forces you do use their update software02:44
hydrogenof course!02:44
hydrogeni'm down to 22 hours02:45
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drifdr_Willis: which game is that?02:46
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dr_Willisdrif,  tabula rasa beta02:52
dr_WillisBought the preorder. and it dident have  serial #.. i should of made it start downloading then. :) had to take it back to the store to get a different boxed set02:53
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drifdr_Willis: ah, that new garriot production02:54
drifdr_Willis: I wonder how long it will take until someone redirects us to -offtopic ;)02:55
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dr_Willisgiven that we are averaging about 4 min between replies.. and no one else is talking.....02:58
CPrompt^anyone use Pandora or Last.FM?02:58
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megalomaniacanyone able to answer why i can connect to this server but not others?03:10
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underdog5004megalomaniac, your dns server is down?03:11
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Theresaintelikey: well, i messed around last night and didn't get much further. the purge of all foomatic stuff didn't change anything.  Other ideas?03:11
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megalomaniacnope...thats not it....03:12
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megalomaniacthe only way i was able to previously connect to irc server was thru a hotlink in msn chat which i bookmarked in konversation03:13
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hydrogenyou are boring.03:14
drifBearcat: what's the prob then?03:14
aguitel03:14
Bearcatdrif: i'l give you the short story, them more details as you ask. (thanks)03:14
drifBearcat: ok03:15
Bearcatdrif: i'm setting up linux for a friend. Thier HP C3180 scans just fine with my laptop and the latest live cd.  On thier machine which started as a 6.06 version the scanner can not be found. sane-find-scanner finds it, but scaninmage -L and kooka don't.03:16
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Bearcattheir machine is upto date.  I have examined udev, sane and compared them to my machine and havent found the differnece. I have --purged all foomatic files too03:17
Bearcati have to get this back to them and embarrassed after persuading them to go with linux over XP03:17
intelikeyBearcat ummm copy your configs to their box ?    or the configs from the live CD  ?03:18
Bearcatintelikey: i've done some of that03:19
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Bearcati've done that with udev, and sane. Any more to look at/03:19
Bearcat?03:19
intelikey /var/lib/sane* ?   <shrugs>03:20
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drifBearcat: so 6.06 livecd finds scanner and hdd installed doesn't?03:20
intelikeydrif i thimk it is'nt 6.603:21
Bearcatdrif: yeah, so it *has* to be a config issue.03:22
Bearcatintelikey: you know, i haddn't even though tof /var stuff *face paws*03:22
drifBearcat: why not newer version on hdd?03:22
Bearcatdrif: both their pc and mine are now the same version. I'm guessing it's config files left over from 6.0603:22
intelikeyBearcat and as i said yestergo  if you upgrade 6.6 you can't then config/setup the scanner   has to be setup before the update.   so the live CD "should work" and the updated installed "not work"     aren't bugs fun.03:24
drifintelikey: what's 6.6?03:24
intelikey!lts03:24
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.03:24
drifintelikey: I thought it's 6.06..03:24
intelikeyit is.   6.6 == 6.06 == 06.06 == 2006.0603:25
intelikeyyear dot month code03:25
drifintelikey: I beg to differ :D what's 6.10 then? older?03:25
intelikeyyear dot month code03:25
drifah, ok03:25
drifI'm still too fixated with usual version naming scheme03:26
intelikey"differ all you want, just don't get between me and the blood wine"03:26
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Bearcatintelikey: *nods*  alright i'l copy all config files over that i can find that i think might be remotely pertainant03:30
drifBearcat: have you tried using scanimage -d straight from results sane-find-scanner reports?03:30
Arwen<Arwen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIFCV2spKtg <-- This is just plain awesome03:31
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intelikeygzip: stdin: not in gzip format03:49
intelikeyErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages03:49
intelikey  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)03:49
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drifintelikey: hm?03:51
Bearcatdrif: here. sorry bouncing from pc tp pc03:52
Bearcatdrif: no i haven't03:52
drifBearcat: I'd suggest that03:53
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Bearcatdrif: wht is the '-d' looking for? A device in /dev?03:54
drifnice, katapult bugged out and practically killed my GUI-interface..keyboard not reacting and mouse can't press all buttons03:54
drifBearcat: yup, dev03:54
drifBearcat: which sane-find-scanner reports03:54
Bearcatdrif: sane-find-scanner tells me "found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP] , product=0x5611 [Photosmart C3100 series] ) at libusb:005:005"  What am i looking for in dev?03:55
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intelikeyheh...  Running 'tzconfig' to set this system's timezone.03:56
intelikeyYour current time zone is set to /dev/null03:56
intelikeyDo you want to change that? [n] :03:56
drifBearcat: anything more with -v?03:56
Bearcatintelikey: ohh! you are a "timeless" classic03:56
drifBearcat: or even -v -v03:56
drifintelikey: I'm just wondering some of those pastings you make..asking for something or just amuse us?03:57
intelikeyamusing  mostly03:58
drifintelikey: -offtopic? ;)03:59
intelikeycertenly the last one wasn't asking for any help03:59
drifintelikey: I know, but that previous one...gzip stdin etc.03:59
Bearcatdrif: it looks at /dev/usbscanner[0-15]  and /dev/usb/scanner[0-15] . It says "failed to open (invalid argument)" for all of them.03:59
intelikeyyeah i don't think that's on my box    so anyone to whom it may concern might want to look into that03:59
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drifintelikey: look into what? you never include anything concrete.. like question or description what you're upto there..04:00
intelikeydrif if the output wasn't obvious   that was from an apt-get update   so the updated package database is the error genorator04:00
Bearcatdrif: so, this may be a udev prob then.04:01
drifBearcat: check sane-usb04:01
intelikeysomeone forgot to gzip the database04:01
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hitmanWillyor bz2'd it by mistake :P04:02
drifintelikey: would it kill to include those remarks as well?04:02
drif:D04:02
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intelikeyhitmanWilly no that would have failed altogather.04:02
hitmanWillyyeah, probably, not a major expert on apt here :)04:02
Bearcatdrif: i've looked through that and created a custom config file in /etc/sane.d04:02
drifBearcat: also, have you compared lsmod outputs on both machine?04:03
Bearcatdrif: ahh, good idea04:03
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Bearcatdrif: well, if sane-find-scanner finds the scanner what else is there to do?04:04
intelikeydrif sorry,  thought that was obvious by the text i posted.    i'll try to remember to specify at least the command the i'm posting about in the future04:04
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intelikeyerrrr well i did post it in the future didn't i ???04:04
drifBearcat: it's just usb device which got recognized.. not necessarily having driver loaded?04:05
intelikey me grammer is like me spelling    them is both bad04:05
Bearcatdrif: ahh. Thanks04:05
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drifflaccid: how many plums of sugar?04:10
intelikeyis genii here ?04:10
flaccid0.504:11
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intelikeyis that more or less than 1/2 ???04:12
flaccidlol im on windows and i just replaced the de facto non free apps with free open source ones and shabam the computer has cpu/resources to use heh04:12
drif..and after those words, suddenly 'word' is no longer among us04:13
flaccidw3rd!04:13
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soccermike1337I have an UBUNTU related question, and since no one in #ubuntu will answer, ive come here, to the closest relative (to my knowledge)04:16
flaccidplease ask04:16
soccermike1337is it normal to take over 10 minutes for the ubuntu installer to load?04:16
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flacciddepends on the computers spec. on older systems thats possible04:16
Biovorewell it does take a bit..  dependingoln your computer..04:16
soccermike1337:-/04:16
drifsoccermike1337: not really04:17
soccermike13371.83 GHz core 2 duo04:17
soccermike13372 gigs ram04:17
drifsoccermike1337: nope04:17
Biovoreyeah.. shouldn't04:17
soccermike1337weird04:17
flaccidyour bottleneck is probably something else04:17
soccermike1337bottleneck?04:17
drifis it clearly still doing something?04:17
Biovoresoccermike1337: Try the alternate installer if your having problems..04:17
soccermike1337not that i can tell04:17
soccermike1337alternate?04:17
drifsoccermike1337: =hindering your system down04:17
flaccidthe problem thats causing the slowness04:17
Arwenin computers, a bottleneck is the weak part in a system that's inhibiting the rest of the system04:17
flaccid!alternate04:17
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal04:17
soccermike1337oh04:17
Arwene.g. your CPU being too slow to feed your video card data04:17
soccermike1337:-/04:18
Arwene.g. your hard drive being so slow your 500000MHz RAM is being wasted04:18
soccermike1337oh04:18
soccermike1337thats probably it04:18
soccermike1337my hd is only 5400 rpm04:18
soccermike1337im gonna check the cd real quick for defects04:18
flaccidarnt we talking about the optical drive loading here, not hard disk?04:18
Biovoresoccermike1337: http://ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/feisty/  <-- alternate installer at bottom.. It basicly the debian text based installer..  Works quicker.. Its what I use..04:19
soccermike1337yeah04:19
drifthat's quite unusual rpm these days - but I dont believe that's the prob04:19
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soccermike1337ok... well if i use the text installer, is it harder to resize my windows partition?04:19
Biovore5400 rpm.. probably on a laptop then..04:19
drifsoccermike1337: of course if it's laptop then it's very normal04:19
soccermike1337yes i am04:19
drifBiovore: yeah04:19
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flaccidthe problem is more likely the optical drive or whats being loaded off the installer or it doesn't like a piece of hardware04:20
soccermike1337ok.. 10:19, pressed enter on Ubuntu graphics safe mode04:20
Biovoresoccermike1337: well you can resize in the text installer. But the menus are a bit more confussing..04:20
rekorderhello04:20
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flaccidalternate cd will probably have no problem if the problem is related to X04:20
soccermike1337:-/04:20
soccermike1337it seems ive had it running on this laptop before though04:20
soccermike1337because i had to fetch a driver for it04:21
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Bearcatthanks all04:23
drifBearcat: did it work?04:24
Bearcatbe back later04:24
Bearcatdrif: nope04:24
sFEARswhat's the apt-get command to reinstall?04:24
Bearcatbut now a scanimage -L takes a minute or two to complete04:24
intelikeyapt-get install --reinstall blah04:24
flaccidsFEARs, sudo apt-get install --reinstall package04:24
Bearcatalright i'm gonna copy over udev and etc stuff04:24
sFEARsthank you04:25
soccermike1337:-/04:25
Bearcatadn hope i don't break this system04:25
sFEARsstill having massive trouble by the way04:25
soccermike1337well i found ubuntu 5.10 cd04:25
soccermike1337how hard is it to upgrade to 7.x04:25
sFEARsi fix one thing & break two others in the process04:25
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flaccidsoccermike1337, much quicker to d/l the feisty alternate cd than upgrading from that over the net04:25
drifsoccermike1337: not hard - although I personally discourge anything other than clean installs04:25
soccermike1337i dont think that its going to work though04:26
soccermike1337:-/04:26
flaccidsoccermike1337, have you tried it?04:26
soccermike1337no04:26
soccermike1337but i know the 5.10 disc works04:26
flaccidthere is no X on the altnernate cd04:26
flaccidhave you ever tried an alternate cd on the system..04:26
intelikeyupgrade 5.10 > 6.6 > 6.10 > 7.4  ?????  yuvh04:26
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intelikeyyuch too04:26
soccermike1337nope04:27
soccermike1337i guess ill try04:27
Arwenintelikey, try with a fresh install? :-P04:27
intelikeyArwen no not that string.   dialup precludes my testing that.04:27
Arwenheh'04:28
intelikeyit would take until 9.10 releases to finish that upgrade process04:28
soccermike1337ill probably need someone to walk me through the text based one though04:28
flacciddialup is not cool :p04:28
Arwendialup on Linux is even worse :-\04:28
Arwenwinmodems :-\04:28
flaccidi think there is a text-based install guide somewhere04:28
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intelikeyArwen heh real modem here  :)04:28
Arwenheh04:29
Arwenmine used to have a really unstable intel driver. but then came the upgrade and voila, proprietary software didn't update.04:29
intelikeyheh   yeah.04:29
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soccermike1337-downloading alternate cd-04:32
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sFEARsanyone know what the mp3 library is?04:34
Biovore!mp304:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:34
sFEARs<~~ trying to convert from windows04:34
flaccid!codecs04:35
flaccidubotu?04:35
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intelikeyhow to measure network traffic that isn't flowing through the box doing the checking   ?04:38
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Biovoreintelikey: you on a switch or a hub?04:38
flacciddoing the checking?04:38
flaccid!snmp04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:39
flaccid!ethereal04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ethereal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:39
Biovoresnmp only works if you got a switch that supports it..04:39
intelikeyBiovore i can't tell ya   seeing that's i'm still network illiterate04:39
drifsuggest some good wiki which is available from repo?04:39
soccermike1337!codecs|flaccid04:39
soccermike1337!codecs |flaccid04:39
soccermike1337lol04:39
Biovorewell on a switch you can't see the other trafic.  but on a hub you can.. (hubs have colutsion lights on them)04:39
ubotuflaccid: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:39
soccermike1337there it is04:40
soccermike1337lol04:40
Biovoresnmp -- simple network managment protocol..04:40
flaccidso you need a managed switch that supports snmp or a hub that you can sniff on04:40
intelikeyBiovore well this [box]  has lights on it.  i can see that there is traffic passing through it...04:40
intelikeyand to which cable04:41
intelikeybut don't know how much traffic   nor what kind04:41
Biovorewell in a switch box A sends traffic to the switch and the switch sends it to box B.. In a hub.. box A sends traffic to the hub.. the hub just sends it out to everyone connected to the hub..04:41
intelikeyah   i have a switch then04:42
flaccidyou still get collision domains on a switch but. a switch is buffered a hub isn't04:42
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intelikeybut i think it's a small switch  only 9 eth ports and a  T socket04:43
Biovorelinksys?04:43
navetzhow do i get spellcheck with openoffice?04:43
Biovorenetgear?04:43
intelikeyno name04:43
Biovorenavetz: F7 I think..04:43
Biovoreintelikey: there are a couple of ways of doing it.. but its not easy..04:44
flaccidalthough i continuously get told that you can snmp an unmanaged switch04:44
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navetzBiovore: it doesnt recognize my language or something, it wont find any errors and i know they are there04:44
Biovorenot sure.. not a open office expert..04:45
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intelikeyLC_ALL=C command04:46
intelikeyoh ignore that.04:46
intelikeyit's a cute little bastard switch that a local school pitched in the dumpster,   works perfectly as far as i can tell.04:48
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NickPrestanavetz, this happened to me the first time I started usign OOo. Give me a minute to find the solution again...04:50
navetzNickPresta: man thanks alot! this has been killing me04:50
NickPrestanavetz, may I PM you?04:50
steven_hi04:51
NickPresta!hi | steven_04:51
ubotusteven_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:51
navetzNickPresta: yes04:51
navetzNickPresta: it says im unregistered04:52
NickPresta!register | navetz04:52
ubotunavetz: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration04:52
NickPrestaat any rate, I will create a Pastebin post for you04:52
navetzNickPresta: ok sweet thanks :)04:53
milesdebian > ubuntu ?? [confirm/deny] 04:53
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NickPrestanavetz, http://pastebin.ca/67082204:55
navetzNickPresta Thanks !04:56
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Biovorehmm I noticed that having the PS3 kubuntu disk in the drive here that it totaly hoses up the umount in the gui.. :-/04:57
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[Ramy] hi all, after making some testing for pidgin IRC built-in client, I was banned from #ubuntu, may because I was logging in and out , allot. how I can repair that ?04:57
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sFEARsi have no idea Ramy04:58
intelikey[Ramy]  time.04:59
intelikey[Ramy]  unless you tic'd off an op  you should be debanned in a few minutes04:59
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NickPrestaand [Ramy]  #test for testing04:59
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NickPrestaor [Ramy]  just join any channel you want (ex. #RAMYSCHAN)05:00
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intelikeymodem resets are so much fun.....    NOT05:02
[Ramy] intelikey I have being banned for 48 hours :(05:02
intelikey[Ramy]  hmmm then try   #ubuntu-ops   see if you can resolve the issue05:03
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intelikey[Ramy]  i was banned from there for 6 months05:03
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intelikeytold an op he was wrong about    sudo -i  and  sudo su -   having different end results...05:04
intelikeyguess one should never correct an op05:04
robotgeekintelikey: hmm, really05:05
intelikeyit's no joke.   though i may be famous or infamous for them05:05
robotgeekintelikey: what does sudo su - do specifically05:07
intelikeysame as   sudo -i    specifficly05:07
intelikeyit just runs   su -     as root05:08
intelikeysu -     switches users (to root because no user was specified)  and the dash makes it a login shell05:09
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intelikeywhen people ask howto blah  if someone answers with one way i like to provide some other was of reaching the same point (if there is one, and in linux there usually is)05:10
intelikeys/was/way/05:10
intelikeyseems that  #ubuntu is not the place for that practice though.    and an un-named op said i was wrong that the second command wasn't what the fellow wanted,  i just pointed out that the two commands are equal in the end result   although   sudo -i  does use less resources and thus is faster   the differance is un-noticable even on a slow machine05:13
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intelikey </rant>05:13
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robotgeekintelikey: okay. i dont go in there, it is too stressful :)05:14
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NoobSaucedoes anyone know of any good video cameras that work out of the box in ubuntu/kubuntu? I don't care about quality, or anything - just out of the box support05:15
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fitoria_can i install pidgin on kubuntu?05:16
robotgeekNoobSauce: you mean, like camcorders?05:16
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NoobSaucerobotgeek: yeah05:16
robotgeekNoobSauce: sorry, no idea. wiki might have something05:16
robotgeek!hardware05:17
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:17
NoobSauceI don't care about quality, I don't care about price - just something that works, and is preferably not in some bizarre shape/size05:17
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NoobSauceI looked through that page, but I don't think there are video cameras listed, just regular cameras (that take pics)05:17
robotgeekNoobSauce: though, most of these cameras come with firewire, so it might just work?05:18
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NoobSaucerobotgeek: What's so special about firewire supported cameras? How is it different from usb in terms of hardware support?05:18
gustavo_oi05:18
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NoobSaucerobotgeek: I would think it makes no difference... unless I'm unaware of something... I don't have much experience with firewire stuffs05:18
robotgeekNoobSauce: nothing special, firewire was much faster than USB105:19
gustavo_hi05:19
fitoria_can i instal pidgin on kubuntu?05:19
robotgeekfitoria_: sure you can.05:19
robotgeekfitoria_: you have tried kopete though, right?05:19
fitoria_yes05:20
swiftnomadhello. I have compiz fusion and I'm having a bit of trouble. apt-get It says libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig status: Upgradeable Request: No change but when I upgrade it.. it's still around and it says: Requested: BRAKE (upgrade) than when I press apply I get an error:05:20
swiftnomadThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would brake packages.05:21
swiftnomadPress OK. and it's still around and compiz fusion dont let me use any themes or apply them. nothing.05:21
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swiftnomad!fitoria_ yes you can install it but you need to compile it yourself.05:22
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robotgeekswiftnomad: well, the commit would break packages, so it is not committing :)05:23
robotgeekerr, upgrade05:23
robotgeekgustavo_: can we help you?05:24
swiftnomadI have upgraded it but and its still their.05:24
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swiftnomadrobotgeek.. I am requesting the upgrade and it say's it's still their when I try to upgrade again.05:25
robotgeekswiftnomad: it wont upgrade because upgrading will break your box. are you on feisty?05:25
swiftnomadyes. kubuntu.05:26
swiftnomadso I cannot get compiz-fusion on this?05:26
robotgeekswiftnomad: how did you try to install it?05:26
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swiftnomada tut I seen when I googled it. their was a perl install script.05:27
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swiftnomadI needed to back location/of/shell.sh05:27
swiftnomadbash**05:27
robotgeekswiftnomad: can you give me a link?05:27
swiftnomadsure.05:27
swiftnomadI'm looking for it. =X05:30
robotgeekheh05:30
swiftnomadI cant find it. I been playing around trying to install this and get it running05:32
robotgeekswiftnomad: okay, please open up a shell05:33
swiftnomadopen05:33
swiftnomadit's opened05:33
robotgeekswiftnomad: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/05:34
swiftnomadI'm their.05:35
robotgeekswiftnomad: see what files are present there, "ls -l"05:35
swiftnomad005:36
swiftnomadswiftnomad@swiftnomad-desktop:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ ls -l05:36
swiftnomadtotal 005:36
robotgeekswiftnomad: okay. "cd .."05:36
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robotgeekswiftnomad: paste the contents of sources.list to a !pastebin05:36
swiftnomadok05:37
swiftnomadhttp://pastebin.ca/67085405:38
robotgeekswiftnomad: hmm, could you paste the contents of sources.list (kate sources.list) and paste (http://rafb.net/paste) it05:39
swiftnomadsure.05:39
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swiftnomadhttp://rafb.net/p/6RFHjL80.html05:41
flaccidautomatix *oh no*05:42
swiftnomadgoogle earth. =)05:42
swiftnomad=P05:42
flaccidwhats your problem sorry05:42
robotgeekswiftnomad: which packages are not getting upgraded?05:43
swiftnomadI have compiz fusion and I'm having a bit of trouble. apt-get It says libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig status: Upgradeable Request: No change but when I upgrade it.. it's still around and it says: Requested: BRAKE (upgrade) than when I press apply I get an error:05:43
swiftnomadThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would brake packages.05:43
swiftnomad Press OK. and it's still around and compiz fusion dont let me use any themes or apply them. nothing.05:43
flaccidre-generate your sources.list or remove all the extra repos05:43
swiftnomadlibcompizconfig-backend-kconfig05:43
flaccid!libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig05:44
flaccid!info libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig05:44
ubotuPackage libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:44
swiftnomadI dont know how to do that.05:44
robotgeekisn't there a channel for effects?05:44
swiftnomadI'm not to sure.05:44
robotgeekswiftnomad: apt-cache show libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig05:44
flaccid!sourc-o-matic | swiftnomad05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourc-o-matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
flaccid!source-o-matic | swiftnomad05:44
ubotuswiftnomad: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:44
robotgeekswiftnomad: uggh, i meant apt-cache policy libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig05:45
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intelikeywhat does the degree sign look like ?05:45
flaccid!offtopic05:46
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:46
flaccid:p05:46
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intelikeywhat does the degree sign look like ?    anyone ?     or what key combo to generate it ?05:46
swiftnomadHere is what your asking for geekrobot05:46
swiftnomadhttp://rafb.net/p/kR2ziP82.html05:46
flaccidgoogle.com ?05:46
robotgeekintelikey: it looks like a small 'o' superscripted05:47
intelikeyyeah that's it.  but you didn't show me...05:47
intelikeyi just need to copy and paste it..05:47
flacciderr google05:47
robotgeekswiftnomad: thanks05:48
swiftnomadmhm yeah I'm in Kubuntu05:48
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flaccidsweet05:48
swiftnomadI can still use this Ubuntu sources.list generator and not mess anything up?05:48
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flaccidswiftnomad, i would re-generate, then add the repos you require for that package only05:49
flaccidie. no automatix etc.05:49
robotgeekintelikey: 05:49
flaccidthen let us know your new error if you get one05:49
swiftnomadwhy no automatix ??05:49
flaccid!automatix05:50
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:50
robotgeekswiftnomad: if you remove the ppa repository, i think it might work.05:50
swiftnomadhow do I remove it?05:50
flaccidquestion is did you want the tuxfamily or ppa package05:50
robotgeekswiftnomad: just add a # in front of those lines, then try again05:51
flaccidafter you save do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade05:51
swiftnomadok.05:51
swiftnomadany spaces?05:52
flaccidnegative05:52
flaccidspaces are allowed in front of the # which is a comment05:52
swiftnomadso in the URI but it wont let me press OK05:52
robotgeekswiftnomad: that is becuase you are not editing it as root, (which is a good thing)05:53
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flaccidwhat wont let you press ok? you need to use sudo or kdesu to be able to edit and save the file05:53
swiftnomadok05:53
robotgeekit might be simpler to manage repositories from adept05:53
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swiftnomadyeah in Software Sources I cannot edit it with the # infront of URI05:55
voradamsanyone able to help with a knetworkmanager wpa question?05:55
swiftnomadand I wouldnt know how to edit it from adept05:55
flaccida # makes that line a comment ie. it doesn't get included05:55
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flaccidso you want to comment out ppa or tuxfamily repos or manage via kdesu adept05:56
flaccid!repos | swiftnomad05:56
ubotuswiftnomad: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:56
flaccid!adept05:56
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:56
flaccidnice little howto^05:57
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swiftnomadstill not letting me edit it. and in shell I'm root.05:58
swiftnomadlet me just delete it.05:59
robotgeekswiftnomad: delete what?05:59
swiftnomadppa.dogfood05:59
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voradamsThe belkin usb wireless adapter works out of the box on kubuntu 7.04, device shows up under knetworkmanager, and can see my router. however, when i try to pass my credentials to the roter, it seems to bomb out. anyone know wpa or knetworkmanager enough to help as i got no love from the main ubuntu forum06:00
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robotgeekswiftnomad: okay06:00
flaccidswiftnomad, what is the actual error and editing with which editor?06:01
robotgeekvoradams: what chipset is it using, (lsusb -v) & (lsmod)06:01
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voradamsidproduct 0x0102, rt73 chipet06:03
swiftnomadwhat do you mean? I dont get no error. I just cannot apply themes  and when I run ccsm Its the settings manager and its just like 4 menus and I cant do anything.06:03
flaccidi thought we are trying to fix repos swiftnomad06:04
flaccidwhat are you trying to edit sources.list with06:04
swiftnomadwell- ok. that. It says:06:04
voradamsrobotgeek: it sees the router fine, iwconfig shows all the right values06:04
swiftnomadThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would brake packages.06:04
flaccidthat was from apt-get update06:05
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swiftnomadI didn't try. geekrobot was asking to see it.06:05
flaccidhave a look at the output and see which repos had problems06:05
swiftnomadI dont know how.06:05
flacciderr06:05
swiftnomadn00b. I know.06:05
robotgeekvoradams: wpa has not worked on my laptop, sorry06:05
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flaccidswiftnomad, so which extra repos do you actually need in sources.list06:06
voradamsafraid of that, the webpage says security has not been tested....06:06
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swiftnomadnone really. I enjoy the automatrix because I use google earth alot... and I just want a better theme than the one I have now..06:07
flaccidtheme for what?06:07
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flaccidyou don't use automatix for google earth..06:08
flaccid!googleearth06:08
ubotuGoogle Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository06:08
swiftnomadkde. with compiz-fusion you can use emerald06:08
flaccid!compiz-fusion06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:08
flaccid!compiz06:08
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:08
swiftnomadok thanks.06:09
flaccidswiftnomad, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion its ppa06:11
swiftnomadyeah?06:11
hydrogenhow do I find out what package a file belongs to06:11
swiftnomadOk. Ill add that.06:11
flaccidso you need to comment out the tuxfamily entries06:11
flaccidthat is what is conflicting06:12
hydrogenor better yet06:12
hydrogenanyone seen06:12
hydrogenldconfig: /usr/lib/libexslt.so.0.8.13 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.06:12
flaccidhydrogen, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libs/libxslt1.106:14
flaccidhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=libxslt1.1&version=feisty&arch=i38606:15
hydrogenerr06:15
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flaccid!info libxslt1.106:17
ubotulibxslt1.1: XSLT processing library - runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.20-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 212 kB, installed size 448 kB06:17
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hydrogenno06:17
hydrogenlibexslt06:17
hydrogennot libxslt06:17
hydrogenoh06:17
hydrogensame package06:17
hydrogenit turns out06:17
flacciddid you look at the package list...06:17
flaccidindeed06:17
hydrogenahh06:18
hydrogenthis isn't going to end well06:18
flacciddang06:18
hydrogeni decided to remove it and reinstlal06:18
hydrogento try and fix06:19
hydrogenand apparently half of my system depends on it06:19
hydrogenso adept is being nice and removing half of my system06:19
flaccidyou could do a force purge then install it perhaps06:19
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flaccidah need cli for this kind of thing iirc06:19
jombeedoes anyone know anything about php?06:19
flaccidjombee, yes06:19
hydrogenand it doesn't give me a way to cancel06:19
flaccidhydrogen, kill it06:19
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hydrogenits most of the way done.. I'll let it finish and then reinstall06:20
hydrogenits mostly kde that its removing06:20
flaccidok then06:20
hydrogenwell06:20
hydrogenand python06:20
hydrogenand adept06:20
hydrogenand meh06:20
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bzradHi guys.  I mount /home via hda3... and i recently copied the directory, removed partition.. and moved my files back on.  I went to login, and it said something about dchopserver, and reading a network list.. and i chown'd my home directory.. and now I try to login, and it just kicks me right back to login screen w/out errors.. any idea?06:21
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flaccidbzrad, perhaps try sudo chown `whoami` ~/home/`whoami`06:21
flaccidchown -R `whoami` ~/home/`whoami`06:22
hydrogenehh06:22
hydrogen~/home is going to do weird things :)06:22
hydrogenlike not work06:22
flaccidyeah06:22
flaccidgood point06:22
drif:D06:22
bzradflaccid I already did chown -R wastedfluid *06:22
bzradin my home directory.. wastedfluid is my username.06:22
intelikeybzrad   df -h     and remember 5% reserver by default06:22
bzradhold on, i'll run that now.06:23
drifbzrad: but not the directory itself?06:23
drifbzrad: quite crucial step..06:23
flaccidbzrad, failing that goto a tty kill kdm then run startx and see problem06:23
bzradok, i'll do a console login.. hold on06:23
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yurimxpxmanwhat's the command to add a line to a file? I remember it had echo in it..06:24
intelikey#offtopic http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3917606:24
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intelikeyecho "blah" >> file.name06:24
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bzradflaccid;  I went into console login.. logged in, typed "kill $(pgrep kdm) - and now i'm just at an empty s creen w/ one line flashing.. nothing happening.06:25
intelikeyyurimxpxman if it's system file and you are not root    echo "blah" | sudo tee -a file.name06:25
yurimxpxmanintelikey: btw, that script doesn't work for me06:25
yurimxpxmanintelikey: thanks!06:25
intelikeyyurimxpxman no ?  hmmm06:26
yurimxpxmanintelikey: (by script, I mean the CPU temp one)06:26
bzraddrif; i know I own directory permissions because of ls -l06:26
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intelikeyyurimxpxman yes.  sorry a space in the wrong place...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3917706:27
bzradi think i'm just going to do another fresh install since this is obviously not working.06:27
yurimxpxmanintelikey: yeah, I found it06:27
yurimxpxmanintelikey: but it still doesn't work06:27
yurimxpxmanintelikey: gives me the unknown character symbol in konsole06:27
bzradflaccid;  now I can't even console login.. it returns me to the login screen.06:27
bzradok, fresh install time.. no big loss.  thanks anyways06:28
intelikeyit's a "console" script  if you use unicode konsole it should work06:28
intelikeybzrad06:29
drifhe's gone06:29
yurimxpxmanintelikey: btw, what's wrong with `cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature` ? :-)06:29
intelikeywell.   i would have told him that he just proved it was ownership/permissions06:29
intelikeydrif yeah i know.06:29
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intelikeyyurimxpxman the format.  it's ugly.06:30
drifintelikey: I had same hunch06:30
yurimxpxmanintelikey: what format does yours show?06:30
drifintelikey: nowadays people just don't like the battle anymore ;)06:30
intelikeytty3 [greg$~]  ./temp06:30
intelikey50C06:30
yurimxpxmanintelikey: ah, I see06:31
drifbtw, what could be wrong when I have nothing at thermal_zone on this machine?06:31
intelikeydrif yeah.   M$ slothfulness has really set in.06:31
intelikeydrif module not inserted for the sensors06:32
drifintelikey: few days ago I accidentaly misused usermod and revoked my admin rights :D had only kdesu session of adapt manager around..06:32
drifintelikey: so, logical solution would have been reboot and editing etc files manually..06:33
yurimxpxmanintelikey: I'm using utf8 and it doesn't work..06:33
drifintelikey: but no :D I just fired up another pc and set up repository and made 'fake' .deb to obtain my rights back :D06:33
intelikeydrif yeah.  booting to single user mode would have given you a root shell  from which you could have added your root jr. account to the adm/admin groups.06:34
flacciddang bzrad just had to go back to the tty again and run startx ah well06:35
drifintelikey: but using what password?-o06:35
yurimxpxmandrif: it doesn't require a password06:35
intelikeydrif none06:35
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drifintelikey: and besides I had no real chance to reboot the machine at that moment - had software running06:35
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yurimxpxmanintelikey: do you want a screenshot of this bug in your script?06:36
drifintelikey: so it was more convenient way to me06:36
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intelikeyyurimxpxman ok i'll concent that konsole is borked as far as ascii chars from printf ...  you could drop the `printf ...`  section06:36
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intelikeyyurimxpxman it's not a "bug in my script"   maybe a bug in konsole...06:37
intelikeydrif what ever works    is always the "right way"06:37
drifintelikey: yup06:37
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flaccidwhatever works is the wrong way06:38
drifflaccid: based on what?06:38
flaccidwindows works...06:38
flaccidneed i say more06:38
intelikeyflaccid still has a sore knee06:38
intelikey...  :)06:38
drifhehe06:38
flaccidno you have a sore foot coz i have metal knees06:38
flaccid:p06:39
intelikeyoh    my bad...06:39
intelikey:)06:39
intelikeynow who's off topic   btw06:39
drifflaccid: spending a lot of your time on your knees? :D evolution surely has its ways06:39
yurimxpxmanintelikey: doesn't work in xterm, either.06:40
intelikeyok.  i'll fire up a gui and look at it...      kids...06:40
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flaccidwhy am i always the easy target06:41
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yurimxpxmanintelikey: doesn't work in my virtual terminal, either :P06:41
intelikeyyurimxpxman what char set you using ?06:41
yurimxpxmanintelikey: utf806:42
intelikeyunicode does not produce the correct ascii  on that.   you are right about that.  but no errors.06:42
yurimxpxmanintelikey: I switched to greek and it worked :P But it still doesn't show my temp. Your script isn't portable :(06:43
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intelikeypastebin it06:43
yurimxpxmanintelikey: what does `cat cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature` give you?06:43
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yurimxpxmanintelikey: mine says: temperature:             40 C06:44
intelikeyyeah i'm running a little hoter  5006:44
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intelikeyi still think it's not "my" script   i think you edited it.06:44
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3917806:45
intelikeyis that what you have ^ ?06:45
yurimxpxmanintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35089/06:45
intelikeyno   see.06:45
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yurimxpxmanintelikey: I have no idea what your paste is06:46
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3917906:47
intelikeythat  ???06:47
intelikeyoh  heh different   sorry.06:47
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Zaelorehello06:47
Zaelorecan anyone help me with something?06:47
intelikeymaybe.06:47
drifZaelore: just ask the question - no need to ask permission06:47
ZaeloreI want to kill a process in kubuntu06:47
yurimxpxmanintelikey: now it works. you changed something06:47
yurimxpxmanZaelore: killall appname06:48
yurimxpxmanZaelore: or push ctrl+alt+esc and click the window06:48
Zaeloreit's not a gui app06:48
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yurimxpxmanZaelore: then type: killall appname06:48
drifZaelore: although be very careful with that yurimxpxman's latest tip06:48
intelikeyyurimxpxman yes when you said it errored   i fixed it  and repasted it.   ^ way up there    but you didn't get the fix you edited it your self and kept telling me that "my script was at fault"      like   duh.06:49
ZaeloreI was using parted earlier to look at a disc and play with it now it seems to be running in the background and I can't restart it06:49
intelikey<intelikey> yurimxpxman yes.  sorry a space in the wrong place...> yurimxpxman yes.  sorry a space in the wrong place...06:49
intelikey            http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3917706:49
yurimxpxmanZaelore: if you don't know the process's name, you can use the `top` command06:49
Zaeloreit's name is 'parted' and I know it's pid too06:50
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Zaeloreif I do ps aux | grep parted06:50
yurimxpxmanZaelore: you could type: `killall parted` or `kill [pid] `06:50
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ZaeloreI get root      8583  0.0  0.2   4396  1692 ?        D    00:36   0:00 parted06:50
yurimxpxmanZaelore: you may have to run it with sudo06:50
Zaeloreyeah I've tried that too06:50
yurimxpxmanZaelore: yes, run: `sudo killall parted`06:50
yurimxpxmanZaelore: what does it do?06:50
drifZaelore: kill -9 858306:51
intelikeyZaelore sudo  kill -9 858306:51
intelikeyZaelore or  sudo kill -15 858306:51
Zaeloreok tried that it didn't work06:51
yurimxpxmang2g06:51
Zaelorethanks for the help06:52
Zaelorewhat does -9 do?06:52
intelikeyZaelore pstree   and see what it's parrent is  sudo killall <parrent>06:52
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drifZaelore: it's KILL signal06:52
drifZaelore: man kill06:53
drifZaelore: to find out more06:53
intelikey-9 and -15 are signal switches to the kill command   term and kill06:53
intelikeyi.e. more force.06:53
Zaeloreapperantly it's parent is init06:53
Zaelorewhich sounds important06:54
intelikeyyou'll not kill that.06:54
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Zaeloreyeah06:54
intelikeyso if you can't kill the process it's self (and that would mean something is wrong) then you are in for a reboot to kill it06:54
Zaeloreyeah06:55
Zaelorethat is probably what I will do06:55
intelikeyand the (something wrong) would likely be  i/o errors06:55
drifZaelore: there's slight chance the resource is so locked up it won't reboot cleanly though..06:55
wershow do I change the screen size on kubuntu? on tribe 5, the desktop was too big that only about 2/3 of the desktop was seen on my screen06:56
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intelikeydrif i'd say high probability06:56
Zaelorewould that matter much?06:56
drifintelikey: I didn't want to sound over dramatic ;)06:56
drifZaelore: well, not sure but you might need to power off from switch - if it happens to lock up06:57
intelikeydrif it's even possable that it will require kernel side  hot keys to reset   alt+sysRQ+u/b06:57
intelikeyheh i was typing that as you were.06:57
Zaelorek06:57
Zaelorereboot will probably fix it06:57
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intelikeyreboot will probably get you out of the hung app.06:58
intelikeyas to fix...      S:06:58
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Zaeloreon a more mundane topic, do you know how to get wireless internet to work comming out of sleep? on an ibook g406:59
drifintelikey: kernel side hotkeys btw?06:59
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intelikey alt+sysRQ+u/b06:59
drifintelikey: meaning..06:59
intelikeythe alt key   plus   the  sysRQ key  plus   U  and then  B06:59
drifwhat the heck is sysRQ key?06:59
Zaeloreyeah wtf is that07:00
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intelikeynormally found sharing the print screen key07:00
drifah, true07:00
drifnever used it as such purpose :D I recall07:00
intelikeytest that key combo if you like     :)07:00
drifintelikey: not right now ;)07:00
intelikeyand well see you in how ever long it takes to boot07:00
drifintelikey: what's the difference between u and b?07:00
intelikeyu emergancy umount fs's   b boot07:01
NoobSauceanyone know of good video cameras (like camcorders) that work straight out of the box in ubuntu?07:01
intelikeyr reset keyboard    e exit all processes07:01
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se7en^Of^9is there a way to extract iso's07:01
intelikeythere are some others   i just don't know them all07:02
flaccid!webcam07:02
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:02
drifintelikey: reset keyboard sounds bit vague when its non-responsive :D07:02
flaccidnot really any straight out of box07:02
intelikeyse7en^Of^9 mount it07:02
se7en^Of^9intelikey: :) sorry stupid question ...07:02
drifse7en^Of^9: you can uses as loop devices07:02
drifuses=mount07:02
intelikeymount -o loop filename.iso /mount/point07:03
intelikeytranslate that  ^07:03
inaetyhello when i try to start a java program called alice.org i get this in the konsole and it...just stops afterwards http://pastebin.com/m1f15f27307:03
nixternalinaety: sudo update-alternatives --config javac07:04
flaccidbind07:04
nixternalinaety: and then select the sun java compiler and not the gcj one07:04
intelikeydrif non-responsive can be misleading too   it may mean one key accepted every x seconds due to overloaded io buffer  in which case the hotkey would take priority   so believe it or not it often works.07:05
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inaetynixternal: usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/javac ?07:05
nixternalthat will do it07:06
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inaetynixternal: i still get the error07:06
nixternalwith the libgcj.so?07:06
inaetyyeah07:07
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nixternalsudo update-alternatives --config java07:07
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nixternaland select the sun java one07:07
inaetynixternal:  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java07:08
inaety?07:08
nixternalyup07:08
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nixternalis this the alice program for 3d designing stuff?07:08
Zaeloremy computer crashed = )07:09
inaetynixternal: thanks a lot! it worked07:09
nixternalinaety: woot!07:09
yurimxpxmanZaelore: got it yet?07:09
nixternalOK, so it was already compiled then :)07:09
yurimxpxmanZaelore: you might have to login as root (not sudo) to do it07:09
yurimxpxmanZaelore: I've had that problem once before07:09
inaetynixternal: thanks i appreciate it07:09
nixternalno problem07:09
drifnixternal: any clues why mine says 'unknown option' for --config=java?07:10
Zaelorethe parted problem is fixed07:10
yurimxpxmanZaelore: how'd you do it? reboot?07:10
intelikeyhey hey hey...  i think that's a pci nic in that old box   i can use it in this one...   then i can expand the small lan by using this box as a gateway to the gateway...     errr ummm that does work doesn't it ?07:10
nixternaldon't do --config=java, do --config java07:10
nixternaldrif: ^^07:10
drifnixternal: sorry :D07:10
Zaelorewell I got this new usb disc drive07:10
nixternaltis alright07:10
Zaeloreand I was messing around with parted with it07:10
Zaeloreand I unmounted it somehow and got parted to hang like I told you earlier07:11
Zaeloreit may have been not completely 'unmounted' but it was as far as I knew07:11
drifnixternal: thanks, that actually migh have solved one prob my friend had earlier07:11
drif+t07:11
Zaeloreand I pulled the drive out of my computer07:11
Zaeloreand then I was talking to the kernal07:11
Zaeloreor something07:11
yurimxpxmanhehe07:12
Zaeloreit was weird and I couldn't find the print screen key07:12
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Zaeloreso I typed zf and it died07:12
intelikeyZaelore classic   :)        yeah i/o errors   kernel don't like loosing hardware he's talking to ...07:12
Zaelorelol07:13
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yurimxpxmanintelikey: I'd still submit a bug report, though. It should be able to recognise that the hardware was pulled07:13
intelikeyyurimxpxman bug the kernel team.  not ubuntu   it's kernel side.  i/o  errors07:14
yurimxpxmanintelikey: that's what I meant07:14
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yurimxpxmanZaelore: you should report it on the LKML07:14
Zaelorewhere do I submit a bug report to the kernal team?07:15
afiestashi, in gutsy will be posible configure wpa+static ip with a gui ? (now i'm using feisty with wlassistant)07:15
yurimxpxmanZaelore: http://www.lkml.org/07:15
intelikeyyurimxpxman means the ubuntu folks "can't fix that"  the kernel developers are the ones who will have to change it if it gets changed.     linux kernels "do not like to loose mounted fs's" period.07:16
yurimxpxmanZaelore: create a new gmail account and sign up for the linux kernel mailing list, then send them a message07:16
yurimxpxmanZaelore: read the lkml faq07:16
Zaeloreis it bad to use an existing account?07:17
yurimxpxmanZaelore: yes, because you'll get about a thousand e-mails a day from that list :-)07:17
yurimxpxmanZaelore: or you may wish to just e-mail the list and request that all replies be CC'd to you07:18
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yurimxpxmanZaelore: the address is linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org07:19
yurimxpxmanZaelore: make sure you use a mail client in GNU/Linux and not Gmail, or else your e-mail will go to the bit bucket07:19
Zaelorei'm still a little confused about whether I will be wanting replies or not07:20
yurimxpxmanZaelore: just request the replies to be CC'd to you. That way, you'll only get responses about your message. You'll want to read the replies to make sure they don't need more info07:21
Zaelorewhy is it bad to use gmail?07:23
|biovore|gmail is ok for crud mail..  Don't use it for secure stuff..07:24
yurimxpxmanZaelore: the list's server rejects all mail except those delivered by a GNU/Linux mail client. Stuff like hotmail and e-mails from win32 clients are ignored.07:24
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=== intelikey imagines the kernel team replying that it's not the kernel it's the app that didn't conform to standards that wouldn't release the i/o and the parted folks saying there is nothing wrong with parted it's designed to not release i/o until it exits so it doesn't destroy the disk...
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yurimxpxman|biovore|: I'd hardly consider the LKML to be sensitive information07:25
Zaelorewell I made a new gmail account07:25
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intelikeyand in the mean time we have to put up with full system lockup ....07:25
|biovore|well google spam filters block hotmail and yahoo because of spam problems..07:25
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yurimxpxman|biovore|: no they don't..07:26
|biovore|I thing gmail to hotmail and yahoo has the same problems..07:26
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|biovore|hehe07:26
yurimxpxmanintelikey: how do you function..?07:27
yurimxpxmanintelikey: you can't even order things online without e-mail :P07:27
arunintelikey: you don't email?07:28
intelikeyyurimxpxman pretty regularly   and you ?07:28
intelikey:)07:28
intelikeyarun  no07:29
yurimxpxmanintelikey: pretty reguraly what?07:29
intelikeyarun i stopped a few years back.07:29
intelikey<yurimxpxman> intelikey: how do you function..?   <intelikey> yurimxpxman pretty regularly   and you ?  <<<<  it's  a joke....07:29
intelikeyand a bad one.07:30
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arunintelikey: how do you communicate? don't you need to use email where you work?07:30
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yurimxpxmanarun: intelikey has no life outside freenode. He's a human bot :-)07:31
intelikeyarun heh  i accatually cant use email at work    so  no.   it's all hard copy  and mostly hand delivered.07:31
yurimxpxmanintelikey: where do you work?07:31
intelikeyyurimxpxman lol    that may be close to true...   lol07:31
yurimxpxmanmcdonals? :P07:31
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dsmith_hello07:32
yurimxpxman:-)07:32
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intelikeyyurimxpxman i really can't talk about that.   for the record i gather and distribute information,  and that's all i can say.07:32
dsmith_anyone run compiz?07:33
yurimxpxmanintelikey: aha. I've done super-secret work before, too, but it wasn't exactly the legal kind.. :P07:33
yurimxpxmandsmith_: I've played with it, but I don't believe _anyone_  uses it permanently07:33
intelikey:)   then i'm probably not the guy to tell that too..  lol07:34
Zaeloreuh oh he works for the fbi07:34
dsmith_hmmmm well since beryle has merged what is currently being used?07:34
dsmith_Zaelore: Nah, he's a compnay man for sure..07:34
yurimxpxmandsmith_: beryl is the new toy, but, again, I don't believe anyone actually uses it all the time07:35
mendreddsmith_: compiz-fusion.. (#compiz-fusion)07:35
dsmith_mendred: thx07:35
mendredyurimxpxman: ur looking at one who uses it all the time :)07:35
yurimxpxmandsmith_: or #beryl would be better07:35
dsmith_I've run beryl07:35
yurimxpxmanmendred: why..?07:35
dsmith_kinda buggy07:35
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mendredyurimxpxman: expo and scale plugins mostly..very convenient07:36
mendredand plus the gutsy compiz seems very stable and fast07:36
mendredon kde07:36
mendredso why not07:36
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megalomaniacthanks...07:38
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intelikeyyeah but it didn't answer07:38
megalomaniacanyone know the linux equivelent to winrar?07:38
intelikeyjust checking your "* yurimxpxman/#kubuntu is actually using konversation atm"07:38
yurimxpxmanmegalomaniac: ark07:38
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intelikey!rar07:39
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free07:39
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dsmith_!7zip07:39
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression07:39
yurimxpxman!dsmith_07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dsmith_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:39
intelikeyoh my poor little server is so bawged down...07:39
megalomaniacthaks a lot....07:40
yurimxpxmanintelikey: you're speaking to a person who hosts ssh & apache and uploads torrents at the same time on a 384kbps upload.. yikes07:41
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intelikeyyurimxpxman dialup here    still care to compare notes ?07:42
yurimxpxmanintelikey: what do you host?07:42
intelikeymyself07:42
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intelikey:)07:42
intelikeyjust a gateway   but it's in the process of apt-get dist-upgrade    right now.  so it's boged07:43
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intelikeyswamp'd07:43
intelikeyno only in the dmz07:44
intelikeyinfact you shouldn't have found any open ports out there07:44
yurimxpxmanintelikey: didn't try. I just tried 8007:45
intelikeyand i don't run apache07:45
intelikeycherokee07:45
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yurimxpxmanNickPresta: why?07:46
intelikeyyou also need to remember what i have spent on computers     $0.0007:46
yurimxpxmanintelikey: why?07:46
intelikeynot sure how much lag  so   why what ?07:46
yurimxpxmanintelikey: I thought FBI agents made a pretty good living :P07:47
intelikeythey probably do.07:47
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NickPrestayurimxpxman, sisters are downloading a movie or something else stupid. I'm seeding a Kubuntu DVD image. My sisters and I are all logged into IM, I'm on XChat, plus my HTTP server. Congestion =(07:48
yurimxpxmanNickPresta: I have a solution for you: stop seeding the movie :-)07:48
NickPrestayurimxpxman, I will tell my sisters that in the morning, yes. =)07:48
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Zaelorekill their download07:48
Agent_bobi'm only 11 years old.07:49
drifNickPresta: throttle that torrent transfer a bit..07:49
NickPrestait isn't a big deal since everyone else is asleep. I'm in the only one awake...07:49
wastedfluidhi guys.  Is /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux the scripts for hibernate+standby in KDE?07:49
NickPrestadrif, I've told them countless times about upload slots, max connection, max upload, etc. They're stubborn. heh07:49
Agent_bob"irc, where men are men,  and women are men,   and children are..."07:49
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drifAgent_bob: your colleagues?07:50
NickPrestawastedfluid, it appears so. Try `cat /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-reboot-linux`. It looks like it...07:50
wastedfluidNickPresta: thanks.07:50
wastedfluidjust implementing s2disk, and s2ram..07:51
Agent_bobdrif  :)   in a sense i suppose07:51
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yurimxpxman..but can't put his away message on because it already is :-)07:51
Agent_bobdrif you can probably google that quote.  i don't recall who's it is...07:52
NickPrestawastedfluid, try the 'hibernate' package. It might do what you want...07:52
NickPresta!hibernate07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
NickPrestawastedfluid,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/hibernate07:52
wastedfluidNickPresta: No thanks.  I know for sure s2disk works.07:52
drifAgent_bob: I'm familiar with that quote.. "..fbi agents"07:53
Agent_bob!hybernate07:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hybernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:53
wastedfluidI've never been successful with anything other than s2disk.. from 6.06 up.07:53
wastedfluidbut, thank you anyway.. I appreciate it.07:53
Agent_bobwell NickPresta there used to be an infonode on that...07:53
drifshould consider sleep I guess07:53
wastedfluidI should, to07:54
wastedfluidtoo* - ack!07:54
Agent_bobdrif shalom,   and sleep well07:54
NickPrestawastedfluid, try this too: http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2007/02/11/fixing-software-suspend-hibernate-with-uswsusp-in-ubuntu-feisty-and-edgy/07:54
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wastedfluidOh, NickPresta.  I've already installed uswsusp.. that is the s2disk.07:55
drifAgent_bob: thanks :)07:55
NickPrestawastedfluid, oh. heh.07:56
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wastedfluidhehe. ty though.07:56
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wastedfluidthanks again, Nick.07:58
wastedfluidGood day.07:58
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intelikeyif init runs a script that calls  apt-get   where will the output be ?07:59
intelikeytty0 ?08:00
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intelikeytty8 ?08:00
intelikeyi'd like to check the progress   but don't want to phisically go to the box...   isn't that sad...08:01
flaccidnot really08:01
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intelikeyyou only say cause you are the same way...  :)08:02
flaccidtrue08:02
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intelikeywow.   hot debate in ##linux    windows -vs- the unstable unsuable super-expensive *nix world.   heh08:15
intelikeyor actually a troll getting picked apart...08:15
intelikeyso anyone know, if init runs a script that calls:  apt-get dist-upgrade -y  :where will the output be ?   so i can check up on it, every few hours...   ?08:20
flaccidum check all tty?08:23
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drifintelikey: why not redirect output(s) to file?08:23
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intelikey-:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 228.723 seconds08:27
intelikeysorry.08:28
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gnyffelCan anyone think of why aptitude insists that the linux-restricted-modules-generic has 2.6.20.15.14 as a dependency, despite 2.6.20-16 being available?08:39
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dhqhow do i monitor incomin connections08:39
drifdhq: netstat08:39
drifdhq: or what do you mean precisely08:39
dhqdrif, i mean bluetooth connections08:39
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dhqhow di i monitor  bluetooth connections08:43
dhqhow do i monitor  bluetooth connections08:43
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SteamMachineHello World!08:44
standahello everybody08:46
flaccid!info kbluetooth08:47
ubotuPackage kbluetooth does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:47
flaccid!bluetooth08:47
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup08:47
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dhqis there anyway i can use my pc as a headset for my cell via bluetooth08:54
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drifdhq: yup, we once accidentaly (wasn't our purpose at the moment) paired up cellphone and laptop08:55
driflaptop's soundcard to be more exact08:56
dhqdrif, how do i do it08:56
drifdhq: hard to say right away, I don't have any bluetotth devices in my linux setup08:56
dhq:(08:56
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dhqdrif, can you link me if you have any idea08:58
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drifdhq: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=2604523208:59
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drifdhq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=bluetooth&titlesearch=Titles09:00
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gundam_rx78nt1Hello, I have installed Kubuntu on my laptop and the login screen is scrolling off the screen when I move my mouse in any direction past the screen. I think that it is virtually expanded and I want to change it so it can display the page with the correct resolution. Any pointers?09:01
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drifgundam_rx78nt1: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and match your "Virtual" with your real resolution09:02
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gundam_rx78nt1Ok, let me try that.09:03
paritoshis there a way to recover your /var. i lost it when i tried to mount it on a separate partition.09:03
driflost it?09:03
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paritoshi mean...like you have to copy the stuff from the original /var to the new partition right?09:03
paritoshthe permissions got messed up during that process09:04
paritoshnow some programs can't write to their directories, so my system is kind of broken in some ways09:04
combowhat should i do if some of programms i want to install need 'libdaaf2-0'? where can i get this ?09:04
jake<ubotu> my adept crashes09:05
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jake<uboto> help please.09:06
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paritosh?09:06
drifjake: "he" is a bot..09:06
drifjake: it does sometimes..use apt-get or aptitude istead?09:07
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jakeyah. but he detecting the word adept crash09:07
jakehe gave the right command before09:08
paritosh!ubotu09:08
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:08
paritosh!ubotu adept crash09:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:08
jakemy adept says i cannot modify it, it says some other app running09:09
combo!libfaad09:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libfaad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:09
jakehelp guys please09:09
jake!adept09:10
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:10
combojake: reboot system cuz adept is using by some else apps09:10
drifjake: sudo lsof /var/cache/apt/*09:10
drifjake: to see if something is already accessing it09:10
jakei did it but nothing happens09:11
drifno output?09:11
jake! adept crashes09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept crashes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:11
NickPrestawhat are you trying to figure out?09:11
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NickPrestaadept crashed?09:11
NickPresta!adept09:11
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:11
NickPresta!adeptfix09:12
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:12
NickPrestathat's it...09:12
jakeyes!! this is what im looking for! thanx09:13
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MrBougohiho09:14
MrBougois it possible to set up an alias that is usable with sudo?09:15
uubualias for a command?09:15
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MrBougoyup09:16
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uubuwhat would you like the command to do?09:16
MrBougoi set up an alias09:16
MrBougobut i cant use it with sudo09:17
MrBougoits not about a specific alias09:17
jakeanybody here guys using a vmware?09:17
MrBougobut if i set up aliases, i cant use them with sudo09:17
uububy alias do you mean symlink?09:17
jakei installed vm player09:17
MrBougojake: a vmware hostink kubuntu or a kubuntu with vmware?09:17
MrBougoa bash alias uubu09:17
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jakeyes09:18
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jakei wanna install windows to my kubuntu09:18
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uubuhow are you setting the alias, MrBougo09:19
MrBougoalias <something>="<omething else>"09:19
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uubumight i suggest #bash09:20
uubuwhat is the actual problem with the alias you made09:20
MrBougoi'm on it09:20
MrBougothe channel is pretty empty09:20
MrBougooh wait09:20
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phoenixzI just did a full upgrade from within adept manager, and now I don't see the hibernate option anymore in the shutdown screen.. why is this, and how do I get hibernate back?09:21
gundam_rx78nt1drif: that didn't work. It changed the resolution on the login screen but it also changes the desktop resolution to the same resolution as the virtual setting. I have an nvidia chipset card.09:21
MrBougookay uubu09:21
MrBougothey suggested me to mak a scipt09:22
uubuwhat is the actual problem. what is the actual alias you tried to set... i dont know the problem yet09:22
jakeMrBougo where do i get vmware server?09:22
uubujake: http://vmware.com09:22
uubu!vmware > jake09:23
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paritoshhow do you find what process writes to a directory in /var09:23
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uubuLinux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux09:29
uubuoopsy09:29
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combo!streamtuner09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about streamtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
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combowhat was command to install ntfs-configure so i can make ntfs partion writable ? :] 09:45
combo!pastebin09:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:46
flaccid!fuse09:46
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems09:46
flaccid!ntfs-3g09:46
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions09:46
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comboflaccid: yes, i have 3g but also need something else to configure that09:47
combo!ntfs09:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:47
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flaccidit says it on that page: Enable the universe repository and install the ntfs-config package. See Installing Software.09:48
flaccid!info ntfs-config09:48
ubotuntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB09:48
combo!secpolicy09:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about secpolicy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:49
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nobbimoin moin09:59
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danyahello .. I need some help .. I don't know whats wrong with my system .yesterday I cou;dnt log into gnome till now ..whenever I choose gnome desktop nothing appears on the desktop .. anyone ?10:01
danyaI'm on feisty 64-bit10:01
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Lynouredanya: You might get better help on that on #ubuntu if your kde login works fine10:02
danyaLynoure : thanks10:02
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NickPresta!hardware10:06
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport10:06
NickPrestagood ubotu10:06
NickPresta!botsnack10:06
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!10:06
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MrBougohello, it' me again :p10:09
MrBougoit's*10:09
Assidoh crap10:10
NickPresta!hi10:10
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:10
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MrBougowhen i write my bash script, i try to execute it10:10
MrBougoisnt it supposed to work without using the "sh" command?10:10
NickPrestaassuming you havea shebang10:11
NickPrestaand its +x10:11
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MrBougoa shebang?10:11
pagMrBougo, chmod +x yourscript  and  ./yourscript10:11
NickPrestahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%2910:11
pagmake sure you're in the right directory10:11
MrBougoyup10:11
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NickPrestaso #!/bin/sh and then chmod +x script. then ./yourscript10:12
MrBougooh, that's called a shebang10:12
MrBougoi didnt know10:12
NickPrestahashbang/shebang10:13
gundam_rx78nt1how and where do I change the login screen resolution? I have on my grub menu.lst file vga=0x317 and whenever I change my virtual resolution on my xorg.conf file, it changes the desktop resolution. Please help me.10:13
pagI'd reccomend #!/bin/bash  since ubuntu has a 'nice' feature to point sh to dash10:13
NickPrestapag, yes. I forgot to mention that since I updated the symlink (stupid dash).10:15
carbonfreezeits best to call with /usr/bin/env bash for platform friendlyness10:17
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NickPrestaif your script is posix compliant, you might as well use /bin/sh as /bin/sh is supposed to point to a posix compliant shell.10:19
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NickPrestawell, I'm off to sleep. Goodnight #kubuntu10:25
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|marco|italiani?10:52
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|marco|italiani?10:53
|marco|????10:53
pag!it10:53
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:53
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MrBougooh, kubuntu-it exists too?10:54
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MrBougo!de10:54
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:54
MrBougo!nl10:54
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl10:54
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MrBougo!ubotu10:56
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:56
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MrBougo!it | |marco|10:56
ubotu|marco|: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:56
MrBougohe didnt understand10:57
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MrBougobye11:01
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comboalways after start-up there is a adept-manager informing me that i have to upgrade libfaad2-0. and i'm always upgrading it :/ how can i stop that ?11:13
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guitarherohi11:13
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pagcombo, disable one of two conflicting repos11:15
combopag: how to do that, master ? :)11:15
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pagcombo, it's hard to say... could you pastebin the output of " apt-cache policy libfaad2-0 "11:17
combopag: ok11:17
combopag: done :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35092/11:18
pagcombo, what's that "http://ubuntu.cafuego.net feisty-cafuego/all" repo? anything important?11:19
combopag: let me see...11:20
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combopag: i have this repo from forum... don't know actually what is this... but not necessary :P11:21
combodelete this repo ?11:21
germainefrench room pls11:21
pagcombo, comment it - there's no need to delete anything :)11:21
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pag!fr | germaine11:21
ubotugermaine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:22
germainety ubo11:22
pagcombo, iow: prefix lines related to thet repo in sources.list with #11:22
germaineubo i have some  problem for install yahoo messenger11:22
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combopag: done :)11:23
pag!ubotu | germaine11:23
ubotugermaine: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:23
combopag: thanks a lot :D11:23
pagcombo, does it work now?11:23
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paggermaine, why are you trying to install Yahoo messenger - try using Kopete instead11:23
combopag: reboot and then we'll see that11:24
pagcombo, don't reboot. just " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade "11:24
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linoleum_hi guys, I m kurently using ubuntu, but I m doing an apt-get install kde at the moment ... is there any way , to use kde4 instead of the normal kde 3.5 ?11:25
paglinoleum_, please see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php11:25
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paglinoleum_, and in my personal opinion; you should've installed kubuntu-desktop instead of kde11:26
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combopag: now it works! no more this stupid adept manager update :D11:27
linoleum_pag, tkx for that. Why shoud I installe kubuntu-desktop instead of KDE ? I m a gnome user, I just want to try KDE for 1 week, and if possible, kde 4 too . I wish to have both desktop envirmenemt, but keep the ubuntu base11:27
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dhqflash doesnt seem to be working on my pc11:28
dhq!flash11:28
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash11:28
combohow can i edit KDM themes?11:29
comboi mean how to change login theme ? :] 11:30
combo...if downloaded some new stuff11:30
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dhqflash doesnt work for me :(11:31
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germainewhy it is impossible of  to go in room with kepete11:32
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germainekopete11:32
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paglinoleum, sorry that took so long: kubuntu-desktop is a usable enviroment, with good programms chosen for you, while kde is just a package that contains pretty much everything kde-project has created11:36
pagcombo, install kdmtheme -package11:37
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pag!doesntwork | dhq11:38
ubotudhq: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.11:38
combopag: :)11:39
dhqpag, well firefox doesnt display flash it crashes11:39
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combopag: '-package' option is unknown11:40
pagdhq, does other browsers work?11:40
combomaybe without '-package' ? :)11:40
pagcombo, sudo apt-get install kdemtheme11:40
comboright :] 11:40
combodone already, thanks11:40
MilhousePunkRockcombo: System Settings, Appearance, KDM theme manager, add theme11:41
MilhousePunkRockcombo: Install new theme, to be precise11:41
dhqpag, konqueror works to some extent11:41
pagdhq, which ubuntu version and arch are you running?11:42
dhqfiesty11:42
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comboMilhousePunkRock: uhh... now i see u wrote that cuz i've just wanted to ask how to install new themes :D thx for answer ;)11:47
combo- i couldn't find that11:47
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wershave anyone here tried cnr?11:50
wersit seems to be operating now11:50
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comboMilhousePunkRock: to change KDM theme - as u said - i have to click on Administration Mode... and there is no such button :|11:56
combo...so i can't change KDM theme :] 11:56
MilhousePunkRockcombo: You need to scroll down a bit, it's probably not on the screen (for whatever reasons)11:56
comboMilhousePunkRock: crap! can't find that11:57
pagcombo, or use " kdesu systemsettings " it'll open Sys.Set.s with Admin priviledges11:58
combothere is no scroll option anywhere11:58
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combopag: try that11:58
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MilhousePunkRockcombo: Otherwise try kcontrol11:58
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combopag: it works :)11:58
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combook thanks for help guys11:58
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phanatikhaaaaaalllooo wer ist hier deutsch, kennt sich mit beryl und xgl aus und kann mir helfen?12:00
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pag!de | phanatik12:01
ubotuphanatik: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:01
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NaugasHi! How do I install locales separately for use of native characters?12:05
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NaugasFound it mentioned here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WriteSupportForNTFS - but I can't find much more...12:07
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Naugas...like what install it "separately" is? I've installed swedish through adept manager.12:08
Naugasor maybe not... :\ only for kde it seems like.12:09
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ksivajiis it possible compile gtk programming with12:11
ksivajican i compile gtk program using gcc12:11
ksivaji!gtk12:12
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI12:12
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combo- where are defaultly saved KDE wallpapers ?12:12
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comboi meant where are defaulty KDE wallpapers ? :}12:14
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combocan someone tell me where are deafult KDE wallpapers ? which folder ? :] 12:19
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runleveltenksivaji: yes. combo: kdeprefix/share/wallpapers iirc12:19
runleveltenie: /usr/share/wallpapers12:20
ksivajirunlevelten  http://pastebin.com/d3149dadd      see this12:21
comborunlevelten: THXXXX :)))12:21
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runleveltenksivaji: most errors compiling are through dependency problems.12:23
runleveltenksivaji: You fulfil dependencies for compilations not with the normal packahes, but the dev ones12:23
runleveltenso blah-devel, blah_devel, blah-dev :)12:24
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ksivajirunlevelten i cant get you gtk is new for me12:24
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runleveltenWell it's general advice. You're missing gtk development files, which will be in the repos12:25
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ksivajirunlevelten but how to locate tthat fiile12:28
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runleveltensudo apt-cache search gtk | grep dev and install the one that fits your current gtk version12:31
phayzi'm trying to enabled the 'artwiz' (bitmap) fonts.  after installed the deb package, i ran the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" and restarted X12:31
phayzmy problem is that these fonts are not visible to kde apps and i don't understand why12:32
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phayzbbiaf12:34
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solarwaveris anyone knows why when i play a game computer shutdown12:44
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phayzsolarwaver: can you find any relevant messages in the various system's logs - /var/log? - e.g. /var/log/messages12:45
ksivajisolarwaver it happen only when you play games or all the tome ?12:45
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ksivajitime*12:45
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phayzsolarwaver: are you running the game under the X or from the console?12:46
solarwaverfrom the x12:46
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phayzsolarwaver: in that case you should check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for relevant messages12:48
solarwaveris something with the nvidia glx12:48
solarwaver?12:49
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phayzsolarwaver: has this problem started recently or has it "always" happened?12:50
solarwaverit always happen12:50
combo_do u use guarddog perhaps ? :}12:50
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solarwaverwhat is guardog?12:50
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combo_!guarddog12:51
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).12:51
combo_- can't configure in guarddog FrosWire connection :] 12:51
phayzsolarwaver: are you sure you're using the correct nvidia driver for your card?12:51
solarwavernvidia glx?12:52
phayzsolarwaver: there are about three different nvidia driver packages available from (k)ubuntu, i believe12:54
phayzsolarwaver: did you use "restricted-manager" to install the proprietary nvidia driver?12:55
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solarwaveri use adept12:57
solarwaveri have a nvidia geforce 4 mx440 128m12:58
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solarwaverand i intall nvidia glx12:58
solarwaveri must restart stem after that?12:59
phayzsolarwaver: i'm not an expert in this area, sorry12:59
phayzsolarwaver: after this installation, you should at least have restarted X12:59
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solarwaverwhat is the 3 packages?12:59
phayzsolarwaver: is it possible to disable the use of glx in the game you're trying to play - just as a test?01:00
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phayzsolarwaver: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx-legacy01:00
solarwaverwaiut a minuteto restart01:00
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solarwaverhello01:03
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phayzsolarwaver: hello 2 u  :)01:05
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solarwaverhi pahyz01:05
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solarwaveruntil now it is not playing anything01:06
richardcan someone give me the command to fix adept if its screwed01:06
runlevelten!adeptfix01:06
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:06
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combo_- is GUARDDOG launching at start-up automaticly ?01:08
richardcheers obotu thats the one i was looking for! =)01:08
phayzsolarwaver: sorry for the delay - i don't know what else might be going wrong01:09
phayzsolarwaver: maybe google for the message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?01:09
phayzsolarwaver: also, check that you're using the correct nvidia-glx-XXX package but checking the list of drivers and cards on nvidia's web site01:10
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solarwaverhow i change color depht01:14
solarwaver?01:14
janahello, what's the status bcm43xx-fwcutter?01:14
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janabecause it doesn't work01:15
solarwaverhow i change color depht?01:16
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janahow do i install bcm43xx firmware because it doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/m7d1e358801:18
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nosrednaekimjana: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40599001:19
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phayzsolarwaver: to force a specific color depth, add a line to your /etc/X11/xorgc.conf file's "Screen" section - "Defaultdepth XX", where XX is the depth you want01:22
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Q-collectiveHello all, could anyone point me to a nice wireless howto for a broadcom card?01:24
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nosrednaekimQ-collective: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40599001:26
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phayzsolarwaver: sorry but i've got to go for the night01:27
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Q-collectivenosrednaekim: thank you, I have a broadcom 57xx card though and that howto is written for 43xx cards, does that matter?01:29
nosrednaekimQ-collective: to tell you the truth IDK... i've never read it :)01:29
nosrednaekimlet me see01:29
Q-collectivehehe01:29
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flaccid!wireless01:30
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:30
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flaccidwhich modem broadcom exactly01:31
nosrednaekimQ-collective: no, it probably does not.01:32
nosrednaekimQ-collective: wait a second.... the 57xx is ETHERNET.01:32
flaccidhttp://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netxtreme_server.php ?01:33
Q-collectiveNetwork controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)01:33
Q-collectivethat's what lspci says to me01:33
Q-collective:>01:33
nosrednaekimQ-collective: I thing thats a 43xx01:33
nosrednaekim*think01:34
Q-collectiveok01:34
germainewhy when i click  joint a room   i am not in an room01:34
combo_why frostwire cannot connect to the network ? :|01:34
germainei have gaim01:34
germainei must donwload some plugins01:34
germaineor no01:35
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solarwaveri have a nviadia geforce 4 mx440 128mb which driver is the best the lecasy or the glx?01:35
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nosrednaekimgermaine: whats the problem?01:35
nosrednaekimsolarwaver: glx01:35
nosrednaekimbut not glx-new01:35
germainethe probleme is  gaim   when i click joint a room  impossible  to get01:36
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germainearizona:1  i click and nothing01:36
runleveltenfor what protocol?01:36
runleveltenYahoo?01:36
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germainei do not know01:36
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runleveltenYou don't know... what service you have signed up for...01:37
runlevelten?01:37
solarwaverthe lecasy one for the old nvidia cards right?01:37
flaccidQ-collective, here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDell01:37
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nosrednaekimyay flaccid!!01:37
flaccidQ-collective, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/139001:38
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solarwavernosrednaekim the driver for the older nvidia cards?01:38
germainerun i do not know01:39
germainei have just donwload01:39
solarwavernosrednaekim the driver for the older nvidia cards?01:40
nosrednaekimsolarwaver: the geforce 4 are very odd, they are not supported by the legacy driver, and are not supported by the newest drivers. Use the mvidia-glx package01:40
nosrednaekimsolarwaver: please do not repeat yourself, it is rude.01:40
gorgonizeris there an easy way to add pata_via driver to the kernel without having to rebuild it?  If not, what is the best methodology of rebuilding a Kubuntu kernel?  I have rebuilt Gentoo/Debian kernels, is it a similar process?01:41
nosrednaekimgorgonizer: it is very similar(probably identical) to Debian's01:41
solarwaverok01:41
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nosrednaekimgorgonizer: but you can probably just build a module, but I guess it depends on the function.01:42
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gorgonizernosrednaekim: cheers for that, how would I build just the module?01:43
nosrednaekimgorgonizer: probably just go get the source, unzip it, an run "make" and "make install"01:43
nosrednaekimgorgonizer: the source will have instructions01:44
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germaine#  netstat -laputen01:45
gorgonizerthanks for the assist!!01:45
germainesome  are close_wait01:46
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combo_what is ALT+SPACE shortcut actually ? i have some window with 'catapult' ?!01:58
fdovingyou can launch apps from it.01:58
combo_fdoving: every app ?01:58
fdovingstart typing for example 'konq' and you'll get Konqueror.01:58
fdovingcombo_: every app in the menu.01:58
combo_WOA!01:58
combo_such great!01:58
combo_:D:D01:58
fdovingyou can also enable other things.01:59
combo_so what is shortcut for minimize window then ?01:59
fdovinglike 'spell someword'01:59
combo_i used for all my life ALT+Space+N01:59
combo_:] 01:59
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combo_fdoving: programmers made GREAT job! xD01:59
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solarwavernosrednaekim where can i find the mvidia-glx02:00
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solarwaver?02:00
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fdovingcombo_: you can try alt+f5 to minimize.02:00
combo_fdoving: and where can i change it ?02:01
combo_ok, found that :)02:01
fdovingcombo_: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts02:01
solarwaveris anyone knows what package i use for nvidia GeForce 4 mx 440 128 mb?02:02
combo_fdoving: thanks for explanation02:02
fdovingyou're welcome.02:02
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gorgonizersolarwaver: I would imagine nvidia-glx, rather than the legacy or new ones..02:04
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solarwaverthe nvidia-glx is for the new ones?02:05
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solarwaveris working with sudo?02:06
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Q-collectivehmm02:08
sehehmmm u 2 :D02:09
Q-collectivendiswrapper is giving me an error02:09
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Q-collective$ sudo ndiswrapper -l02:09
Q-collectivebcmwl5 : invalid driver!02:09
Q-collective:\02:09
seheQ-collective: are you malqos from last nite?02:09
Q-collectiveno02:09
seheQ-collective: mmm same erorr02:09
Q-collectiveah02:09
seheQ-collective: i'd wage a google on it, since it is probably more NDIS related than *ubuntu02:10
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seheQ-collective: he had same message with same driver02:10
werner_guten tag02:10
sehehi werner_02:10
sehe!de02:10
Q-collectivesehe: alright02:10
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:10
seheQ-collective: if it is a broadcom NIC, you may be able to use fwcutter (i use it)02:11
sehe!find fwcutter | Q-collective02:11
ubotuq-collective: Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter02:11
solarwaveri install nvidia-glx with sudo apt-get install its ok?02:11
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sehesolarwaver: go ahead02:11
sehesolarwaver: it's your pc, init?02:11
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solarwaverwhat r u mean?02:12
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sehesolarwaver: no, what do *you* mean. You ask whether it is ok to install something.02:13
sehesolarwaver: of course it is. What is your *question*? Any worries?02:13
solarwaverit doesn't play anything02:13
sehesolarwaver: it?02:13
solarwaverubuntu i mean02:14
sehesolarwaver: games? what?02:14
sehe!doesn't work | solarwaver02:14
ubotusolarwaver: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.02:14
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solarwaverthe games of ubuntu scorched 3d , nexuiz , tec doesn,t play02:15
Q-collectivesehe: I cannot install bcm43xx-fwcutter02:15
Q-collectivehttp://pastebin.com/m10589eec02:15
seheQ-collective: i use fwcutter myself, i never did like to use NDIS. Still relies on proprietary (windows , ugh) drievrs02:15
seheQ-collective: that's a broken link in debian packages. Unfortunate02:16
seheQ-collective: i don't have the package file, you might find it in a package repo02:16
sehesolarwaver: so you need better graphics drievrs, ic. Is your card nvidia?02:17
solarwavertes02:17
solarwaveryes02:17
Q-collectivesehe: then where do I put it?02:17
seheQ-collective: anywhere, run 'dpkg -i <packagefile>' to install (or rightclick menu in konq)02:18
sehesolarwaver: looks like you should install the nvidia stuff indeed.02:18
sehe!nvidia | solarwaver02:18
solarwavernvidia Geforce 4 mx440 12802:18
ubotusolarwaver: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:18
FSHero!NFS02:18
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.02:18
runleveltenThere is no such error as "Doesn't Play".02:19
sehehttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/bcm43xx-fwcutter02:19
seherunlevelten: thanks for sharing :)02:19
seheQ-collective: ^^02:19
Q-collective:)02:19
runleveltensehe: You're welcome.02:20
gorgonizerrunlevelten: cheers, that made me laugh :)02:20
sehehehehe all back at cruising speed aren't we :) lol02:20
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seheQ-collective: i don't exactlt know how fwcutter is supposed to work with the driver modules, but I remember, the driver was in the standard kernel, all I needed is run 'bcm43xx-fwcutter from the console.02:22
seheQ-collective: apparently it is only there to avoid legal issues (firmware may be proprietory)02:22
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Q-collectiveheh02:24
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Q-collectivenow it gives me a dephell ;_;02:24
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seheok i see i linked to unstable02:24
sehemaybe find a stable .deb02:25
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Q-collectiveright02:25
seheQ-collective: or follow the directions in this page to download directly from berlios (and compile it yourself) http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/HOW_TO_install_the_Broadcom_bcm43xx_Driver_in_Debian_Linux_and_enable_WPA_Encryption02:26
Q-collectiveah, thx02:26
sehei think http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/bcm43xx-fwcutter could work a bit better02:27
seheQ-collective: really, there is a problem with the package, so you might report it as a bug02:27
sehe!bug02:27
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:27
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Q-collectiveyeah, that's the package that is giving me troubles02:28
Q-collectiveso yeah, I'll report it, later on02:28
seheQ-collective:  ok. seems like the only alternative is berlios (see howto^^). Unless of course you get NDIS to work after all02:29
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fdovingdoes anyone have compiz working with kde-window-decorator on gutsy02:34
fdoving?02:34
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sehefdoving: i don't but try #ubuntu+102:34
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combo_can someone help me with codecs? i installed them via AUTOMATIX but it looks there is something missin' :|02:48
combo_[ ** AUTOMATIX v2 of cuz ] 02:48
sehecombo_: it looks like... what do you see that leads you to that idea?02:48
combo_i see an image buit defromated in one of my *avi movie02:49
combo_and there is no subtitles in it02:49
pag!automatix | combo_02:49
ubotucombo_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)02:49
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sehe!codec | combo_02:49
ubotucombo_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:49
combo_sehe: i though that a-matix installs EVERY necessary codecs. :S02:50
sehecombo_: seems installation went fine. could be known limitations of the particular (nonfree) codecs. Have a look at their respectivce websites02:50
combo_sehe: ok02:50
sehecombo_: nothing wrong with automatics, pag is right in pointing out limited warranty02:50
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combo_craaaaap! under totem THAT movie works fine... mplayer doesn't work same like my favourite Kaffeine :] 02:54
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combo_is this depended on movie player ?02:54
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sehecombo_: actually engine used. Kaffeine, e.g. can work with xine engine, kaffeine engine etc.02:55
combo_sehe - correct, on Kaffeine i'm using Xine engine02:55
combo_so... because of engine it doesn't work :] 02:55
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sehecombo_: i'm not into multimedia so I don't know which does what best02:55
sehe!doesn't work | combo_02:55
ubotucombo_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.02:55
sehehahaha02:55
combo_sehe: ok, i'll play with it :)02:55
combo_sehe: :)02:56
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sehecombo_: thanks for letting us know bout the cause !02:56
combo_sehe: doesn't work = the image is deformated02:56
sehecombo_: I know :) i was just quipping (see 'hahaha' ^^?)02:56
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combo_sehe: ok ] :->02:57
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jason__10Morning03:06
seheafternoon :)03:06
jason__10Im sort of still in bed.... 14:0703:06
sehehaha have a coffee03:07
jason__10great Idea lol03:07
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jason__10demonstrates my tiredness, Did i close the window or get kicked?03:09
sehei fink you closed it03:09
jason__10:)03:09
sehectrl+q becomes a habit (like coffee)03:09
jason__10yup, so sehe, what do ya use kubuntu for?03:09
sehesehe: well, do you have a while03:10
jason__10lol03:10
jason__10I mean, work or play, or both] 03:10
sehewokr and play03:10
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sehemy webserver + mailserver are on ubuntu03:11
jason__10thats good. What work do ya do?03:11
jason__10ahh03:11
sehemy desktop (development machine) and laptop (office machine) are kubuntu03:11
sehei'm a software developer03:11
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jason__10Nice one03:12
seheyup03:12
jason__10I want to be a remote technician03:12
meson10i have a Kubuntu installed..and need fedora to be installed as well03:12
pag!offtopic | jason__10, sehe03:12
sehe? as in 'harmony remote' or 'remote'03:12
ubotujason__10, sehe: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:12
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meson10is it feasible that i dont loose my kubuntu from booting after that?03:12
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sehepag: we know... nobody was talking03:12
stdinsehe: that's not the point now is it?03:13
sehemeson10: yes. although in my experience it is easier th other way round (ubuntu has a friendlier installer with better 'cooperative' partitioning03:13
jason__10sehe:  I want to use Kubuntu to remote support people who are having trouble, with its in built KDRC or with TSclient03:13
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sehejason__10: ic. doesn't pay very well i'm afraid03:13
stdinmeson10: as long as you install to a separate root dir then it should be fine03:14
meson10sehe: i already have kubuntu installed, when i install fedora..i will loose the kubuntu boot-loader right?03:14
jason__10sehe:  hmm03:14
sehestdin: what do you mean?!03:14
meson10stdin: yes.....i ..but will have a common /homehave a sepearte root03:14
Jisaonot necessarily, meson10.03:14
sehestdin: you mean boot partition?03:14
stdinsehe: just because no one was talking is no excuse to go off topic03:14
JisaoYou can install the mbr in the partition instead of the mbr, then chainload fedora.03:14
sehestdin: ic. i'm not to sure that this is clear to the asker tho03:14
meson10Ok..i explain it in a jist.03:14
stdinmeson10: that should be ok,03:14
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meson10i have sepearet /home.... and a /03:15
sehestdin:  ic - i'm relying on my own judgement for lack of IRC experience. No problem in the future03:15
meson10i have a spare 30 GB..with windows on it03:15
meson10i need fedora to be installed on 30 Gb..with the same /home03:15
meson10thats feasibel right?..with both fedora+kubuntu loading?03:16
stdinsehe: that's why we have the offtopic channel, some people won't ask because they don't want to interrupt general chatter03:16
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jason__10Isn't going off topic okay when you are talking generally? im using kubuntu now, and I want to chat to other kubuntu users to see what they use it for and at the same time help other users with queries.03:16
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meson10sorry i got terminated03:16
sehestdin: yeah that makes sense. i'm a single-channel user atm still have to make the leap to multi-channel :D03:16
stdinjason__10: no, general chatter (even relating to kubuntu) which is not support related goes in #kubuntu-offtopic03:17
runleveltenjason__10: there's #kubuntu-offtopic :D03:17
jason__10stdin: ok03:17
jason__10sorry i didn't realise this was the support channel.03:17
stdinjason__10: see the topic :p03:17
sehemeson10: as long as you can handle the partitioning yourself ;) i suppose that would be ok03:17
jason__10yeah its printed small on my client03:17
sehemeson10: be careful when mixing diferent versions of KDE though!03:18
sehemeson10: because the kde config resides in ~/.kde per user, and may not work across versions03:18
JisaoSpeaking of support, is there a place with strong x.org knowledge and Kubuntu? X crash on my hardware with anything else than debian testing and I want to use Kubuntu more regularly.03:18
meson10sehe: Oops....this one is pretty updated..[kubuntu] 03:18
jason__10Jisao:  doesn't sound good to me03:18
JisaoSo I have to figure out what causes the crash.03:18
sehemeson10: i suppose i must say 'major' releases03:19
meson10sehe: Ok.03:19
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jason__10see you soon,03:19
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sehemeson10: also, a good backup never hurts03:19
sehemeson10: regulars if you can have it03:19
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runleveltenYeah, I've been using kde for years, and I never just paste in the user's .kde directory.03:19
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runleveltenThrough harsh lessons learned. :\03:20
maverickhow can i execute a "*.run" file?03:20
seherunlevelten: i suppose progs will try to remain backwards compatible. as in v2 will run off v1 config, but not vice-versa03:20
maverickfound it03:20
sehemaverick: k03:20
runleveltenYeah. The odd program has borken the configuration horribly, leaving it unusable.03:21
seherunlevelten: meson10: and the catch is, new versions will (always?) silently update the configs to the newer format03:21
runleveltenYou could totally switch them using scripts though.03:21
seherunlevelten: switching would however mitigate the sharing benefit03:22
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seherunlevelten: think of mail folders, amarok stuff03:22
runleveltenindeed, and I think you can change that path anyway.03:22
JisaoI find that keeping data on a separate partition allows me to have many homes, the data is always available on the extra partition, and no configuration problems in the respective /home(s)03:23
sehemeson10: you may just start of using a separate home, and see if stuff works by *cloning* the $HOME dir instead of using it directly. That way, you can back out without needing to have a backup03:23
runleveltenWell I paste in the amarok, kmail, kwallet configs etc.03:23
runleveltenA script could probably ln them very easily.03:23
sehemeson10: my advise: use backups and just go for it03:23
seherunlevelten: cpio | cpio-l is your friend03:23
meson10sehe: i cannot afford to lose data, my entire work on kdevelop4 resides here03:23
runleveltenWhat I do is move the .kde directory.03:24
seherunlevelten: ?03:24
meson10sehe: so, i need a running kubuntu at any cost.03:24
seherunlevelten: as in let it be recreated03:24
runleveltenprior to running a new KDE I move the directory, let the new KDE do its thing then reuse configs as I want them.03:24
sehemeson10: i'd say: backups. I hear you wish to share the homes. Just try it out :)03:24
sehemeson10: if it is not worth the odd complication, donot bother03:25
runleveltenAgain, probably not even necessary now, but I have had KDE apps break files and stuff.03:25
runleveltenwhen just reusing the configs directly, because of radically diff versions03:25
seherunlevelten: I never take extra precautions when upgrading. When downgrading/sharing however, i do03:26
seherunlevelten: and may i mention the backup habit once more. it is a safe safety net03:26
runleveltensehe: Precisely. I find that you're best off prepared for 100,000 problems when you didn't need to be, than surprised by one you weren't prepared for03:27
runleveltenwell, maybe not 100,000, :)03:27
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sehemy going rate is one a week03:28
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sehehardly ever need my backups tho03:28
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AhmedShaheenI want to install amarok-realplayer engine in Amarok03:32
seheAhmedShaheen: is there a problem?03:32
AhmedShaheenhow can I do that03:32
AhmedShaheenI search for a package or Lib but found nothing03:32
seheare you sure it is a feature of amarok then?03:32
hydrogenyou probably need to do it manually AhmedShaheen03:32
hydrogenit doesn't appear that kubuntu packages the amarok-helix engine03:33
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hydrogenerr03:33
hydrogenor maybe its in amarok-engines03:33
sehehydrogen:  nope can't find it03:33
AhmedShaheeni'll try again using amarok0engines03:33
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runleveltendon't search for what you think the package may be called. You'll almost always be wrong.03:34
seherunlevelten: are you talking to anyone in specific03:34
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AhmedShaheenI installed a package called amarok-engines03:35
seheany luck?03:36
AhmedShaheenbut I didn't found any thing changed in the amarok engine lists03:36
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hydrogenah03:36
hydrogenits a meta package03:36
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hydrogenthat installs only availible engines03:36
hydrogenwhich happens to be only xine on kubuntu03:36
hydrogenyour going to have to build from source03:36
AhmedShaheenwhere is the source package03:37
hydrogenamarok.kde.org03:37
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stdinAhmedShaheen: you can also try asking in #amarok03:38
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FallenHitokirihow can I convert postscript file to pdf?03:38
seheFallenHitokiri: ps2pdf03:39
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FallenHitokirisehe: in which package is it?03:39
llutzgs-common03:39
FallenHitokirithanks03:39
AhmedShaheenHydrogen : Do you mean that I must compile and install amarok package itself ?03:39
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hydrogenAhmedShaheen: yes03:40
AhmedShaheenaha03:40
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AhmedShaheenand then I'll find the amarok-helix engine ?03:41
hydrogenif you have installed the helix headers03:41
hydrogenand configure amarok with the --enable-helix option03:41
hydrogenI think thats right.. do a ./configure --help03:42
AhmedShaheenok03:42
FallenHitokirips2pdf segfaults (core dump) :( and if I try to print a pdf with the preinstalled pdf-printer I only get a "Abnormal process termination"03:42
AhmedShaheenI'll try03:42
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maverickdoes anyone know "TRUE COMBAT ELITE" game?03:49
BluesKajAhmedShaheen, the amarok engine is called xine-engine , which is also used for audio by the kaffeine player03:49
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AhmedShaheenBluesKaj : Thanks , but my problem is playing Realmedia files this amarok03:50
AhmedShaheenI installed Realplay & Helix03:50
AhmedShaheenI give xine the codecs path for Realmedia03:51
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AhmedShaheenbut xine still not playing realmedia filesd03:51
AhmedShaheenfiles*03:51
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BluesKajusually the helix player runs by itself , not in amarok , from my experience , realplayer is very proprietary03:52
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AhmedShaheenI used  the realplayer engine in amarok before when I was using Fedora03:53
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BluesKaj!helix03:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:53
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AhmedShaheenok thanks all03:55
runleveltenBluesKaj: Helix is open source.03:56
runleveltenie: the basis of RealPlayer on Linux :)03:56
BluesKajyes, but realplayer rm files are coded by realcodecs03:56
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AhmedShaheenyes, but helix can't play realmedia files03:57
Dr_LinkSo. How long does the Kubuntu LiveCD (one free disk) usually take to be distributed?03:57
AhmedShaheenalso Realplayer can play MP303:57
Dr_LinkI'm in the US, living in South Carolina.03:57
runleveltenAhmedShaheen: I remember discussion of issues with amarok-helix - consider checking that up before you chase it down.03:57
stdinDr_Link: few weeks03:57
fairesDoes anyone knows how to able soundkonverter to encode mp3 files?03:57
Dr_LinkAssuming about 4-6. right?03:57
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fairesDo I have to install other libs, or something alike?03:58
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runleveltenAhmedShaheen: I play all that stuff without amarok-helix.03:58
runleveltenI have RealPlayer, mind you - it's good software on Linux, NOTHING like on windows.03:58
AhmedShaheenrunlevelten : what's wrong I have made ?03:58
Dr_LinkSomehow, all of the ISOs I do end up being unbootable. I could only get an Ubuntu ISO going. Kubuntu and Fedora? nope. :(03:58
runleveltenalso03:58
runlevelten!mp303:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:58
BluesKajwell, anyone trying deal with realplayer and it's progeny is in for grief using windows or linux IMO :P03:58
runleveltenBluesKaj: Superstition.03:59
runleveltenRealplayer is absolutely fine on Linux and has been for years.03:59
runleveltenNo spying, no nasties in startup - it really isn't like the rightly lambasted windows version.03:59
BluesKajok, if you like real-stuff03:59
runleveltenI wouldn't touch it on windows, and I've actively banned it as an admin on windows.04:00
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runleveltenConversely, I've been using it to view BBC news on linux for many years.04:00
BluesKajII've stayed away from realplayer etc for yrs due it's agressive nature on windows i guess04:00
runleveltenOf course, why wouldn't you? It's horrendous on windows.04:01
BluesKajYeah, when is the BBC gonna wake up :)04:01
runleveltenWell to be fair, for years Real was the only real cross-platform and performant streaming solution.04:01
BluesKajI do like the BBC  RSS feeds tho04:01
runleveltenThey could have used windows media, but used real instead.04:02
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BluesKajwonder if konq will play BBC video ?04:02
runleveltenFrom a support perspective, I'd have to inform people, realplayer's reputation on windows doesn't inform you about the linux software.04:02
runleveltens/inform/tell04:03
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fairesSorry, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, but my soundKonverter still doesn't accept mp3 as "output format"04:04
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fairesDoes someone knows what esle can I try?04:05
BluesKajwatching BBC using kaffeine/windows media plugin04:05
pagfaires, you have lame installed?04:05
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runleveltenfaires: you need lame04:05
fairespag: I do think so, but let me check04:05
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fairesduh, I hadn't... :(04:06
fairesSorry04:06
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fairespag runlevelten: thanks a lot...04:06
stdinfaires: I think it also needs ffmpeg04:07
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vordme34Hello, I'm new to Kubuntu and I have a weird problem with adept_installer. It worked fine till now but it says that it's locked .. probably a conflict with apt-get or aptitude?04:07
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runlevelten!adeptfix04:08
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:08
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vordme34thnx guyz!04:08
runleveltennp :)04:08
runlevelten!botsnack04:08
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:08
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BluesKajhehe :)04:09
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solarwaveris anyone knows i set opengl04:10
solarwaver?04:10
BluesKajrunlevelten, BBC seems gives us the option (international visitors) to use the windows media option 9kaffeine04:10
BluesKajerr kaffeine04:11
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runleveltenBluesKaj: Possibly to be the only option soon, since the BBC became Microsoft salespeople.04:12
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BluesKajWow , runlevelten...pushing MS eh04:13
comboWTF?! i installed ATI drivers from here (http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide); it shows 'Direct Rendering: YES' but it doesn't work anyway :|04:14
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solarwaveris anyone knows i set opengl ?04:14
runleveltenThey're promoting it by requiring it to view content the viewers have already paid for. Disgusting and corrupt, and will hopefully be averted.04:14
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runleveltenNot by the Director General though, since he enjoys being wined and dined by Microsoft in the USA^w9 fact-finding too much.04:15
BluesKajsimilar to the print mags  PC Magazine & PC World content is 99% MS ..very little mention of Linux in either , on which I have let the subscriptions run out.04:15
runleveltenI don't care. In my country, TV watchers line the pockets of the BBC and pay for their programs, or go to prison.04:16
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runleveltenAnyway.04:16
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BluesKaj??04:16
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BluesKajit's that corrupt ?04:16
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runleveltenBluesKaj: You have to pay a TV license by law to watch programs on your telly. The money funds the BBC.04:17
runleveltensolarwaver: what you need help with?04:17
stdinstdin@#kubuntu:~$ cat BluesKaj runlevelten | sudo tee -a #kubuntu-offtopic04:17
BluesKajthe CBC here is gov't funded as well, by our taxes ..and it uses windows media as well04:18
solarwaveris anyone knows i set opengl ?04:19
runleveltensolarwaver: what do you mean by "set opengl"?04:19
germainehey run   i have donwload flash_player_9_linux.tar  on my desk  how to make   the files is in code source04:20
solarwaveri have a nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 128 do u know why i can't play 3d games?04:20
germainei must the decompressed04:20
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runleveltengermaine: right click and choose "extract here"04:21
runleveltensolarwaver: can you do glxinfo | grep endor04:22
BluesKajgermaine , there is a how to here04:22
BluesKajhttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash04:22
solarwaveri do that in console?04:22
BluesKajyes04:22
BluesKajoops04:22
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solarwaveri do and it said me "mising on display04:24
solarwaveri do and it said me "mising on display" what is that?04:24
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solarwaverrunlevelten i do and it said me "mising on display" what is that?04:27
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solarwaverrunlevelten it show me that04:28
solarwaverlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:28
solarwaverXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:28
solarwaverXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:28
solarwaverError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual04:28
solarwaverXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:28
solarwaverXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:29
solarwaverXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:29
solarwaverXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:29
solarwaverXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:29
solarwaverXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:29
solarwaverbash: grependor: command not found04:29
solarwaveru know how i can fix it?04:29
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giladHi, I've got a problem I cant wach DVD on my newly installed Kubuntu. anyone knows how to fix it?04:29
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runleveltennot grependor,04:29
Ahmuckis there a way to adjust sound levels in kubuntu?04:30
runleveltenbut never mind that04:30
Ahmuckbeyond the mixer?  the mixer is really a low level adjustment04:30
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solarwaverrunlevelten i do it now04:30
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runleveltencan you do: grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:31
solarwaveri do it now u keep tell me04:31
arunhello runlevelten04:32
runleveltenhi arun04:32
solarwaverit show  me that04:32
BluesKajgilad, install, libdvdcss2 and libxine-extracodecs04:32
ArwenWhy am I getting 24MB/s sustained read/write on my Ubuntu partition but 50MB/s sustained read/write on my Windows partition?04:32
solarwaver Driver          "nv"04:32
ArwenI keep hearing about how ext3 is superior to NTFS, so what's the deal?04:32
runleveltenRight, so you don't have nvidia drivers installed.04:33
runlevelten!nvidia04:33
giladBluesKaj: do it via apt get ?04:33
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BluesKajgilad, and to cover all the bases install w32codecs as well04:33
solarwaveri have passed nvidia glx04:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:33
BluesKaj!codecs04:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:33
solarwaveri have see that04:33
chx_hi. i have an xmodmap , i put it into /etc/XX/Xmodmap but keys specified there do not work under KDE. Where could I put a script so it's used?04:34
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soulriderhello04:34
runleveltensolarwaver. Install "restricted-manager" using adept.04:34
arunis there  a gnome equivalent to korganizer?04:34
giladBluesKaj: i'll try - thanx!04:34
solarwaverok04:34
soulriderim trying to update my kernel but initramfs wont configure because i dont have enough space in my partition. is there a way for me to remove my RUNNING kernel so i can configure the new one ?04:34
solarwaveri do it now and then?04:34
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runleveltenIt's done?04:35
runleveltensolarwaver: You have definitely installed it and finished, yes?04:35
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BluesKajgilad, make sure your multiverse universe sources are uncommented in the sources.list04:35
runleveltensolarwaver: right, now press alt F2 and type restricted-manager04:35
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pagsoulrider, chroot from livecd maybe?04:36
soulriderpag: i got a working gentoo installation04:36
contradiction-pihi, i have a really bizarre problem with kde on kubuntu 7.04. whenever i go to the System Settings->Monitor & Display and change the resolution, it says that the settings have been changed, and if i'd like to keep them, but it hasn't actually changed the resolution. so, now i'm stuck at 640x480. how do i actually change the res?04:36
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soulriderpag: the problem seems to eb i dont ahve enough space for my current kernel AND the new one at the same time04:36
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soulriderpag: when i dpkg --configure it, do the files generated and that are to be copied remain somewhere? i could boot into gentoo, remove this kernel and forcefuly copy the new one... although it seems like a bad idea04:37
soulriderhola tombar__, otro de uruguay :)04:37
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pagsoulrider, hmm... I dunno then - sounds too complicated for me :/04:37
pag!fixres | contradiction-pi04:38
ubotucontradiction-pi: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:38
soulriderpag: and how about removing the running kernel? =/ or will that lead to even more issues?04:38
solarwaverrunlevelten i do it04:39
giladBluesKaj: I'm sorry but I'm kinda new at this how do I uncomment the multiverse universe sources?04:39
BluesKajsoulrider, perhaps you should make a choice which distro to use exclusively :)04:39
runleveltensolarwaver: what did you do, exactly?04:39
soulriderBluesKaj: i want both :P04:39
solarwaveri pass restrected manager04:39
runleveltenpass?04:39
solarwaveri install it with adept04:39
runleveltenWhat do you mean by that?04:39
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runleveltenRight, and now did you run it?04:39
soulriderBluesKaj: i thought a 32mB partition was gonna be enough for /boot, i never had problems with other distros =/04:40
runleveltensolarwaver: right, now press alt F2 and type restricted-manager04:40
BluesKajgilad, my advice is to use source-o-matic for your sources.list04:40
pagsoulrider, my guess is, that it'll lead to major problems, but I don't really know a thing about kernels, so don't listen to mee too carefully ;)04:40
BluesKaj!source-o-matic | gilad04:40
ubotugilad: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:40
solarwaveri do it but it said that the prog isn't found04:40
runleveltenthen you didn't install it.04:40
soulriderpag: i can probably make things work in gutsy now... but whats the fun in running an old kernel? :P04:41
solarwaveri have to do restart?04:41
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soulridersoulrider: no04:41
runleveltensolarwaver: what language do you speak really?04:41
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gilad10x04:41
solarwavergreek,english04:41
runleveltenAha.04:41
runlevelten!gr04:41
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes04:41
runlevelten:)04:42
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soulriderill try my luck in #ubuntu =/04:42
[cellfrog] Hi04:42
solarwavercome on i hate greek in os04:42
[cellfrog] lol04:42
runleveltenWell OK. You don't have to restart04:42
runleveltenYou need to check the box next to the app name in adept or synaptic, then apply your changes.04:43
aruncan openoffice open .ksp documents?04:43
arun(kspread)04:43
runleveltenSimply selecting it _without_ checking the box will do nothing.04:43
runleveltenIs that what you've been doing?04:43
tsdgeosarun: i think it can not, but you can make kspread save to opendocument04:43
[cellfrog] Is there a net tools suit for linux ?04:43
[cellfrog] graphical ?04:44
runlevelten[cellfrog] : Is there ever. What are you trying to do?04:44
runleveltensolarwaver: copy and paste this into konsole: sudo apt-get install restricted-manager04:45
[cellfrog] Runlevelten: is there ?04:45
runlevelten[cellfrog] : there are gazillions of network tools. What are you trying to do?04:45
solarwaverin synaptic it show me installed and in adept04:46
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runleveltenthen run it.04:46
[cellfrog] runlevelten: i ment an all in one ? Thats why i mentioned suit !04:46
runleveltenOh, you meant "suite"04:47
runleveltenI didn't get that, sorry.04:47
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runlevelten[cellfrog] : well, what are you trying to do?04:47
solarwaveri do it on the console and it show me that04:47
[cellfrog] :D04:47
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[cellfrog] sorry !04:48
solarwaver/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:69: GtkWarning: could not open display04:48
solarwaver  warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)04:48
solarwaver/usr/bin/restricted-manager:243: Warning: invalid (NULL) pointer instance04:48
solarwaver  xml = gtk.glade.XML("/usr/share/restricted-manager/manager.glade")04:48
solarwaver/usr/bin/restricted-manager:243: Warning: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed04:48
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waylandbill_[cellfrog] : it depends what you want as to what tool to use. The tools are all there, ping, tracert, dig, nslookup... etc...04:48
runlevelten!flood04:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:48
solarwaversorry04:48
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solarwaverwhat now?04:48
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solarwaver?04:49
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[cellfrog] waylandbill_:  wanted all that you mentioned plus more all in one gui app.04:50
runleveltensolarwaver: It's hard to know what's borken without knowing what you've done, and without you really being able to explain it to me... might I respectfully suggest #ubuntu-gr?04:50
malqoswhen i write this: sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf  ,  i dont  know why something like  this happend- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35116/  i dont know why this driver doesnt install04:51
malqos:(04:51
Trist_anI have a trouble wih kmail04:51
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waylandbill_[cellfrog] : a front-end? I don't know as I don't use one. The right tool for the right job works just fine, so I don't need a front-end to these tools.04:52
Trist_anit seems that if someone is not in my address list his name is changed to Unkwown, the date to 1970-01-01 and I can't read the mail04:52
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waylandbill_[cellfrog] : if you do some research on networking and specifically the linux tools, these tools will become second nature and you wouldn't have a need for a gui front-end to them either.04:54
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voln_hello, i have trouble with my mp3 library. I uplod mp3 to my flash pleer and order of tracks is not same like in kubuntu04:55
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ArwenGah, my hard drive is 97% full. This isn't good.04:55
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JCDGvoin,explain yur problem again, and tell wich program yu use04:56
voln_in kubuntu 1,2,3,4 in pleer 3,4,104:56
voln_kubuntu04:56
voln_I'm tranfering trough krusader04:56
timhi04:57
timim looking for some help please04:57
timive got a dell inpiron 1300 and can't for the life of me get the wireless working any one know how to04:57
[cellfrog] Waylandbill_: ok.. :/04:57
contradiction-piubotu: whenever i followed the first directions in http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, it says that dpkg-reconfigure was not found04:58
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malqosi would like to install  driver using ndiswrapper but when i write in terminal sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf i see this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35116/04:58
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malqoswhy?04:58
malqoshow can i install  this?04:58
pagmalqos, remove the ~ from the path04:59
pvdwlaptopcan i upgrade my install to kubuntu from a sidux/debian install ?04:59
timwell i followed a set of instrutions which told me to uninstall bcm45xx and form then on i cant even get the WL card to turn on04:59
timyes you can upgrade it04:59
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timall you need ot do is download the kde counter parts for unbuntu05:00
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malqosok05:00
timthe only difference of unbuntu and kubuntu is that the kunbuntu runs with the kde desktop and has different packages installed for stuff like networking05:01
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piertracy chapman buddy guy05:01
malqospag: still the same sudo ndiswrapper -i/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf05:01
timcan any one help me with a bcmwl5 problem?05:01
pagmalqos, so the following: sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled\ folder/bcmwl5.inf05:02
pags/so/do05:02
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timnah that dosnt work ive tried05:02
timthe bcmwl5 is being awkard with me05:03
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malqosthank05:03
malqosits working05:03
malqos:)05:03
greenkoboldthe respository "http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg" is off today?05:03
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timso can any one help with a dell laptop problem05:05
lotrois there a tool where i can adjust the pitch of a song in mp3 format05:07
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malqosand right now i have to copies some filest to this catalog /etc/ndiswrapper but i cant because i dont have permission. how can i copies some file  there?05:08
pvdwlaptopsudo05:11
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jordihello, I upgraded my kubuntu 6.06 LTS a few days ago since a long time and a problem with kdebase-data package raised. Does anybody had the same problem or know somwthing about it?05:14
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jordinow I can't install anything cause there arae some dependencies unresolved05:15
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jordiI've tried to install the .deb file with dpkg but dpkg says there is an error with the .deb file05:17
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jordithe problem causes some other issues like my hard-drive becoming a read-only file system05:18
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jordiAnybody has an idea about what's happening?05:19
tsdgeosjordi: can you paste the error you get exactly?05:20
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jordiis in catalan05:21
tsdgeosi have no problem with that05:21
hydrogenexport LC_ALL=C05:21
hydrogenand then get the error again05:21
jordiok05:21
tsdgeosor do what hydrogen says and others will understand it too :D05:22
tsdgeosbesides for pasting05:22
tsdgeosuse http://rafb.net/paste/ please05:22
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tsdgeosor some other paste service05:22
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jordidpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :005:22
jordidebconf: no s'ha pogut iniciar la interfcie: Kde05:22
jordidebconf: (DISPLAY problem?)05:23
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jordidebconf: s'est provant ara la interfcie: Dialog05:23
jordi(S'est llegint la base de dades ... hi ha 127053 fitxers i directoris installats actualment.)05:23
jordiS'est preparant per a reemplaar kdebase-data 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (fent servir .../kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb) ...05:23
jordiS'est desempaquetant el reemplaament de kdebase-data ...05:23
jordidpkg: s'ha produt un error en processar /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb (--unpack):05:23
jordi no es pot fer stat sobre ./usr/share/applnk/.hidden/battery.desktop (que s el que s'anava a installar): Input/output error05:23
jordidpkg-deb: el subprocs paste fou finalitzat pel senyal (Broken pipe)05:23
jordiS'han trobat errors en processar:05:23
jordi /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb05:23
jordiE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:23
jordithis is part of the output05:23
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jordiI'm sorry, i diddn't see the link05:24
tsdgeos;-)05:24
tsdgeosjordi: do you have enough free space?05:25
jordiYes05:25
jordiNow i can't reproduce the error because the drive is read-only05:26
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jordiI will restart05:28
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malqoshow can i copy files this file: /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.sys to /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5 using cp?how should look like the whole line?05:32
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jordisudo cp /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.sys /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl505:33
jordiI think this is the way05:34
malqosthanks05:34
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malqosjordi: cp: cannot stat `/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled': No such file or directory05:34
malqoscp: cannot stat `folder/bcmwl5.sys': No such file or directory05:34
pagmalqos, sudo cp /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled\ folder/bcmwl5.sys /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl505:35
jordior have to remove the blankspace between untitled and /folder05:36
jordimalqos, I think pag is the right way ;)05:37
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malqosyes05:38
pag"/path/to/directory with spaces/blaah" works too05:38
malqosits working05:38
malqosthanks05:38
pagand using tab-completion saves an effort :)05:38
pag!tab05:38
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:38
jordiyes, is a very useful tip!05:39
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malqosi need this because i install wifi and when i did that and write ndiswrapper -l i get: bcmwl5 : driver installed / device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) / drivername : invalid driver!05:40
malqoswhy drivename is invalid driver?05:40
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solarwaverwhy restricted manager doesn't play?05:45
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Darkyi want to start a second Xserver session with xfce05:55
DarkyI tried "startx -- :2 xfce"05:55
Darkycan anyone help me?05:55
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solarwaverwhy restricted manager doesn't play?05:56
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germainewho know swiftfox05:58
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wastedfluidhey.. i'm new to kde. I have found .kde/autostart, but where can I put a file to be ran as root?  trying to modprobe ndiswrapper.. if not, my wireless card doesn't work.05:59
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Darkywastedfluid: put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules06:01
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wastedfluidDarky; hold on, let me look.06:02
anhey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?06:02
anhey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?06:02
wastedfluidDarky; Wow.  much thanks.06:02
anhello? anyone?06:03
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ubuntuhallo06:04
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Liekei still cant install kxdocker!06:07
pagLieke, tried compiling it already?06:08
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anhey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?06:10
Liekecompiling?06:11
malqos_am i on good way to install wifi on my computer? when i write this iwconfig a get: - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35126/06:11
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Liekepag, i'm realy noob in kubuntu06:12
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BluesKaj an, there is a power save mode i believe in system settings/monitor & display06:12
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anblueskaj,thanku ,ill check it out06:13
siouxhi06:13
pagLieke, http://pimpyourlinux.com/linux-feature-review/kxdocker-review/ <- those look like a fine insructions06:13
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BluesKaj!compile | Lieke06:13
ubotuLieke: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:13
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siouxis there a italian kubuntu version?06:14
Arwen!it06:14
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:14
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anblueskaj, u mena laptops&power?06:15
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siouxhey kubuntu-it does not exist06:16
solarwaveris enyone knows restricted drivers manager?06:16
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BluesKajan , k-menu/sytem settings/monitor&display/power saving06:17
Arwensioux, yeah, it's a redirect. There doesn't seem to be enough kubuntu-it users to merit a separate channel06:17
sioux :-S06:18
BluesKajsolarwaver, sudo apt-get install restricted-manager06:18
anblueskaj,i got it ,it had been already enabled06:18
BluesKajan, suspend , as one does in windows?06:19
BluesKajdunno , maybe someone else knows06:19
siouxkubuntu seems have the fetures to intall all languagge except italian!06:20
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anyea,i remember ubuntu has this function ,but i cant find it in kubuntu when i log out the system06:20
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malqos_am i on good way to install wifi on my computer? when i write this iwconfig a get: - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35126/06:20
BluesKajsioux, that's odd ...there must be an italian version06:21
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siouxhow is possible add more language to kubuntu?06:21
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llutzsioux: sudo aptitude install language-pack-it kde-i18n-it06:22
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sioux:-)06:22
willwritenowcan i use amsn with kubuntu ?06:22
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willwritenowdapper drake ?06:22
pagwillwritenow, sure you can06:22
willwritenowwhich im do you prefer ?06:23
pagwillwritenow, but I warn you: amsn *is* ugly06:23
willwritenowgaim ? amsn ? or anyother ?06:23
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tsdgeoskopete06:23
pagwillwritenow, I prefer Kopete - it has multiprotocol support and it integrates well with KDE06:23
BluesKajsioux, look in system/settings/country/regional&language06:23
willwritenowdo you know kopede does not support foreign chars.06:23
tsdgeoswillwritenow: you are joking, right?06:24
willwritenoweven i m using english chars it does not let me to login cause at my pass there is some foreign words :)06:24
willwritenowno really i m not joking.06:24
willwritenowi have kubuntu ( english ) ..06:24
tsdgeoswillwritenow: which protocol?06:24
willwritenowmsn06:24
tsdgeoswillwritenow: have you filed a bug?06:24
arunwhat is the /opt folder meant for?06:24
ArwenOPTional software06:25
willwritenowno .. now i m trying to find amsn06:25
Arwenstuff that's installed by the user06:25
pag!info amsn dapper | willwritenow06:25
arunah.. thanks Arwen06:25
ubotuwillwritenow: amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB06:25
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tsdgeoswillwritenow: can i know exactly which foreign chars do you use? no need to tellme the full pwd06:25
willwritenowi with upper case.06:26
tsdgeosI ?06:26
willwritenowwith dot.06:26
tsdgeosturkish?06:26
willwritenow:)06:26
willwritenowhow do you know ?06:26
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tsdgeoswell, i got some patch for fonts i mantain to add that characters from a turkish dude06:27
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willwritenowwhere are you orinally from ?06:27
tsdgeoscatalonia06:27
willwritenow*originally06:27
willwritenowi see..06:27
tsdgeos06:27
tsdgeos:D06:27
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willwritenowehhehe :) yeap that's it :)06:28
llutz i06:28
willwritenow:)06:28
willwritenowllutz:  :) where re u from ?06:28
llutzgermany06:28
willwritenowu also worked about turkish chars before ?06:29
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llutzno never, i just was wondering where to find that cahr (never had seen it before)06:29
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willwritenowtsdgeos:  how do you find updated librarys for kubuntu packages ?06:29
willwritenowllutz:  so how did you type it ?06:30
tsdgeoswillwritenow: you update from daper to something else06:30
llutzkcharselect did the job (copy/paste)06:30
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tsdgeoswillwritenow: i'm trying to setup a dummy account at hotmail and if i put a  it tells me the password has not valid characters06:30
willwritenowtsdgeos:  i mean i cant find some libraries easily.. i think thats because of the sourse.list file.06:31
willwritenowtsdgeos:  u dont need to do that :) .. maybe thats coz of my luck :)06:31
willwritenowllutz:  good job :)06:31
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willwritenowanyone knows how to find good libraries for packages to add in sources.list file. ??06:36
pag!easysources | willwritenow06:37
ubotuwillwritenow: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:37
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willwritenowthank you ubotu .. will check it now..06:38
willwritenowpag what do you mean with easysources ?06:38
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pag!ubotu | willwritenow, maybe that'll explain what I mean06:39
ubotuwillwritenow, maybe that'll explain what I mean: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:39
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Liekeyes i compiled pag06:39
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willwritenowahaha :)06:39
willwritenowgod .. :) i luv bots :)06:40
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Liekepag, it still ain't working06:40
Liekewillwritenow: , wy?06:40
willwritenowas you see if that would not help .. none of the human beings are helpin :P06:41
pagLieke, ok.. I'm out of ideas then.. sorry.06:41
Erwini just got in. what's the problem?06:41
Liekeallright, pag thnx for helping anyway ^^06:42
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LiekeErwin, i cant install kxdocker06:42
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runlevelten!info kxdocker06:43
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB06:43
willwritenowopss i have another question .. is it possible to use guarddog at kubuntu ?06:43
runleveltenwhy can't you install it?06:43
Liekebecause it chrashes06:43
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runleveltenInstallation crashes, or kxdocker crashes?06:44
_wintermute_anyone running glx with an i810 chipset06:44
Liekekxdocker06:44
_wintermute_or should i uninstall glx and go with aiglx06:45
runleveltenAh, so you can install it. :) Now, did it crash always, or only after you configured it?06:45
runleveltenand also, did it crash immediately the very first time you ran it?06:45
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Liekeyes, runlevelten, it chrashed the first time06:45
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combo- can someone help with :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35124/ :: no acceleration :(06:45
pagrunlevelten, iirc the packaged version has some major flaws, that prevent it from even launching correctly06:46
runleveltenLieke: have you tried kooldock?06:46
Liekeno06:46
runleveltenWell try that instead first :)06:46
Liekewhat's kooldock?06:46
runlevelten!info kooldock06:46
ubotukooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB06:46
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soulriderhello06:47
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Daisuke_Laptopapparently i did something unpleasant.06:47
soulriderDaisuke-Ido,  :(06:47
Liekealright06:47
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Daisuke_Laptopbecause now my only options for cpu speed are 2.00ghz and 1.60ghz06:47
runleveltenpag: to be honest, kxdocker is unstable anyway, so I doubt it's a big hit if the package is borked, heh06:47
Daisuke_Laptopit *claims* i have stepping from 800mhz to 2.0 ghz06:48
Daisuke_Laptopbut nooo06:48
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willwritenowheyy Do you use any firewall on kubuntu ?06:48
pagrunlevelten, yup :)06:48
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pag!firewall06:48
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:48
willwritenowthanx again pag..06:49
runleveltenthe packager probably saves people the bother, ha.06:49
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pagwillwritenow, default settings should be ok for most of the users :)06:49
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Liekerunlevelten, i installed kooldock, but how do i have to open it? i have to go to the edge of the bottom of my screen and click on my right mouse... eum nothing seems to happen :s06:49
runleveltendid you run it?06:50
soulriderguys, im trying to enable bash colors for all users, it works fine, except i have to do source /etc/profile everytime I open a new terminal to see the colors. is there any way for me or any other user to not have to type this ?06:50
willwritenowi also wanna use guarddog..06:50
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Liekeoh it works!06:50
Liekejoepie ^^06:50
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runleveltenHeh, in front of me I have kiba-dock, ksmoothdock, kooldock and kxdocker. Which to play with?06:51
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runleveltenSupport question, honest.06:51
Liekerunlevelten, do i still have to install kxdocker now?06:51
runleveltenLieke: Nope.06:52
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pagrunlevelten, isn't Kicker an option? :)06:52
Liekeand how do i remove my old docker?06:52
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runleveltenkicker's functional. scaley docky things are for playing with :)06:52
pagrunlevelten, but to your question; if you want to play: kiba-dock  if you want something more or less usable: ksmoothdock :)06:53
runleveltenI don't use the dock even on OS X really, but I've never tried kiba-dock.06:53
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Daisuke_Laptopavant-window-navigator06:55
Daisuke_Laptopquite lovely06:55
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pagDaisuke_Laptop, does it work well with KDE?06:56
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Daisuke_Laptopeh06:56
Daisuke_Laptopdefine "work well"06:56
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paritosh1010adept keeps saying another package managing software is running06:56
runleveltenFor a dock: shows shortcuts. Shows running applications. Allows arbitrary apps/windows to be "docked" in it.06:57
Daisuke_Laptopfor the most part06:57
Daisuke_Laptopi didn't have any problems06:57
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runleveltenlike alltray, so when you close the app with the windec close button it just minimises to the dock.06:57
pagDaisuke_Laptop, somehow I just had a memory that AWN looked awful and didn't recognise most of the apps :O06:58
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runleveltenYeah, I had a memory of it being very 2d and pixellated.. sort of gnomey.06:58
paritosh1010adept keeps saying another package manager is running. maybe its the adept-updater, so i closed the adept manager and used the adept-updater. same thing. how do i close these things??!!06:59
paritosh1010i even restarted06:59
pag!aptfix | paritosh101006:59
ubotuparitosh1010: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:59
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paritosh1010pag: thanks07:01
paritosh1010pag: does that mean some package is broken?07:01
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ubuntuhello07:02
pagparitosh1010, nope.. it usually just means that adept doesn't work as expected07:02
paritosh1010pag: it gave an error couldnt install tomcat5.5 before it crashed07:02
paritosh1010pag: something like could not commit charges07:02
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pagparitosh1010, those errors come once in a while - you'll have to get used to them (or dump the adept; it's a smart choise :)07:02
pagparitosh1010, did " sudo dpkg --configure -a " return any errors?07:03
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paritosh1010pag: yeah07:03
paritosh1010Errors were encountered while processing:07:04
paritosh1010 tomcat5.507:04
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pagparitosh1010, pastebin the whole output ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )07:04
paritosh1010!pastebin07:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:04
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paritosh1010http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35139/07:05
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noniHello07:07
pagisn't JDK a java-thingy?07:07
paritosh1010pag: yeah07:07
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nonii cant get myth installed backend....07:07
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pagparitosh1010, you have java installed and configured?07:07
pag!java | paritosh101007:07
ubotuparitosh1010: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:07
paritosh1010pag: yeah, well i installed it after tomcat07:07
paritosh1010so i should try installing tomcat again?07:07
pagparitosh1010, try removing tomcat and installing it again07:08
paritosh1010pag: ok. thanks07:08
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paritosh1010pag: why does it keep saying there was an error committing charges07:11
Liekehow do i change the pictograms of kooldock?07:11
greenday_hey i m using automatix and it was stopped while it was installing java for firefox :) another bug. - cant say " accept " and its waiting :)07:11
paritosh1010pag: changes*07:11
NickPresta!automatix07:11
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)07:11
pagparitosh1010, try sudo dpkg -r tomboy07:11
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paritosh1010pag: it isnt installed07:12
paritosh1010tomcat u mean?07:12
pagparitosh1010, yeah, sorry :P07:12
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paritosh1010pag: synaptic is less buggy07:13
Liekehow do i change icons of kooldock?07:13
pagparitosh1010, yup. and apt is rock solid :)07:14
paritosh1010apt is cl though isnt it?07:14
pagLieke, umm.. right click -> edit?07:14
pagparitosh1010, yes it is :)07:14
greenday_hey i have installed firefox by using automatix but cant work it :( ..07:14
greenday_any commands for firefox to work ?07:15
Liekeyes, but does the image can be .jpg?07:15
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BluesKajgreenday_, type firefox in the konsole07:15
pagLieke, .jpg doesn't always work.. try .png instead07:15
Lieketnx pag :)07:15
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greenday_BluesKaj: its says " command not found " also automatix says " firefox was installed " ..07:16
BluesKajrelogin greenday_07:16
ArtimusHas anyone used Guarddog before?  I've always used iptables by hand.  Any "gotchas" for an advanced iptables user?  My Kubuntu box isn't plugged in at the moment, I'll be trying it out tonight.07:16
BluesKaj!automatix | greenday_07:17
ubotugreenday_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)07:17
Liekepag, doesn't work neither :(07:17
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BluesKajgreenday_, firefox is in the adept pkg manager, that's how you should install it07:18
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pagLieke, dunno then.. I'm not familiar with docks :\07:18
Liekenvm ^^07:18
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greenday_BluesKaj:  thanx .. now i m trying to install it again by using pkg manager.07:19
greenday_btw i dont prefer automatix .. .07:19
BluesKajyou don't need automatix07:19
greenday_it has some options like installing java support .. etc for firefox.. coz of that i hv used it.07:20
greenday_but problems :)07:20
BluesKajyou can install java with adept too07:20
greenday_'ll try :)07:20
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elvirolo2hi all07:25
combothe active partition is called primary, isn't it ? :] 07:25
elvirolo2i have a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG wifi card, and it used to be detected (as eth1) but now it isn't anymare07:26
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paritosh1010pag: how do you clean an unclean installation07:27
pagparitosh1010, huh?  sudo apt-get remove --purge packege  ?07:27
joey382what's the easiest way to recursively download all of the files on a romote server? when I ftp my server and mget it only gets all the files without getting the sud directories07:27
joey382sub**07:28
paritosh1010pag: well, sudo apt-get install keeps saying theres stuff to install. but sudo apt-get remove foo says foo isnt installed07:28
arunI have downgraded one of my packages (ttf-dejavu). Ubuntu keeps telling me to upgrade it, can i disable the upgrading alerts just for this package?07:28
pagparitosh1010, care to pastebin the output of both?07:29
pagarun, apt-get hold package  maybe?07:29
paritosh1010pag: ok. its finally worked. sorry :D07:29
arunpag: you sure?07:30
pagarun, nope.. (and there's not such option :( )07:30
pagarun, maybe some dpkg's option?07:31
arunpag: ah alright.. so is there any way i can hold it?07:31
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elkinspooles, install?07:31
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Daisuke_Laptopit's official, i'man idiot, thank you.07:32
pagarun, there's dpkg --force-hold  but I'm not sure if that's the one07:32
arunhmm07:32
BluesKajDaisuke_Laptop, who called you an idiot ? :)07:33
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arunthanks pag07:34
EnnuiHello all...I have a question.  I'm trying to set up file sharing.  I have samba installed, but when I go to the sharing system settings applet it still says I need to install the smb and nfs servers.  Is that another package?  I can't seem to find it.07:35
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maverickenemy territory...anyone played it?07:38
Daisuke_LaptopBluesKaj: i did.07:39
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Daisuke_Laptopwas wondering why i couldn't switch power management modes.07:39
Daisuke_Laptopi was on AC power.07:39
Daisuke_Laptopanyway, i'm gone for now07:39
BluesKajEnnui, smb server is aka samba , you can ainstall samba andd smb client with adept or synaptic or apt if you wish07:40
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BluesKajDaisuke_Laptop, uhhm...ok :)07:41
EnnuiThanks blues...actually I just found the answer before you said it...I did an upgrade to feisty and this was a known issue.  You have to use apt as adept doesn't uninstall everything you need...then you can resinstall it.07:42
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BluesKajwell, time to wax the vehicle ...bbl07:42
phoenixzHi there, I just tried to install KDE4 base with adept manager, but it wont, it tells me there is a problem, and after that, I see KDE4 base and KDE4 admin as BROKEN.. How can I get some more info on it, why did it fail, etc?07:43
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phoenixzOr.. How can I find out WHY trying a to install package in adept manager fails? It only tells me that it fails, and then that its BROKEN.. but it does not tell me why..07:44
Lynourephoenixz: Those are not even in standard feisty repositories, I think...07:44
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phoenixzLynoure, dunno.. but the point is: I try to install it, and adept manager says there is "an error".. thats like a windows message, something went wrong.. okay, great, but WHAT went wrong? if I know that, I might be able to fix it07:46
phoenixzLynoure, no flame intended by the way..07:46
mdrwhats the linux equivalent ipconfig /release /renew07:47
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phoenixzmdr ifdown eth0; ifup eth007:47
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llutzmdr: sudo dhclient3 <iface>07:48
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d03boywireless assistant is sucking07:51
d03boyit wont connect to my wep ap07:51
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knulfinecan someone give me the link for the german chan07:52
knulfine?07:52
llutz!de07:52
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:52
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Lynourephoenixz: I meant that it's really hard to help you without knowing where your packages are from. I don't know how to get adept to be more verbose, but apt-get and aptitude have verbose flags, I think07:53
phoenixzLynoure, Ah, then I can try those07:53
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Level15dumb question...08:07
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Level15my ktorrent's info bar (the thing below showing me the files, peers, etc) for each torrent disappeared... any idea how to get it back?08:07
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drifLevel15: did you happen to resize it?08:09
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Level15drif i thought so, but no, it's not down there hiding...08:09
phoenixzI just installed KDE4 with adept manager, but it does not show up in my login screen.. What package do I have to install do that I can select KDE4 in my login screen?08:10
drifLevel15: I'd still try - it took me several tries before it catched/snapped the right position08:11
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Level15drif: hm, ok, i'll try it a little bit more...08:11
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drifLevel15: screen capture might help to estimate your situation08:13
phoenixzDo I have to configure something special to use KDE4?08:14
Level15drif: ok, sec08:14
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Level15!pastebin08:15
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:15
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amnesiac_hackershi poenix08:18
drifanyone here with HP w2207 sitting on desk?08:18
amnesiac_hackersnot me diff08:19
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amnesiac_hackersdamn somebody stole my nick08:19
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logixoulhow do I disable the folder entering zoom-feedback in konq?08:20
phoenixzAnyone here who could help with getting KDE4 to work? I already installed it, but how can I login with KDE4??08:20
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c0demonkeysout of here see ya all later08:22
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intelikeynetwork hardware issue    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3918908:23
intelikeynetwork hardware issue    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3918908:23
intelikeyanyone know what i missed ?08:23
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Level15intelikey: sure it's eth1? try ifconfig -a08:24
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drifintelikey: what makes it eth1?08:25
intelikeysorry ?   doesn't that assume /etc/network/interfaces is configured ?08:25
intelikeydrif the fact that i'm talking to you on eth0  ???08:26
drifintelikey: or did you grep those lsmod and lspci?08:26
phoenixzAfter my last adept full upgrade, firefox won't start anymore.. Anything I can do to find out why?08:26
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intelikeyonly two eth  one onboard and one card   i'm talking on the onboard and i assume the card is eth108:26
Bauldrickktorrent is really slow have ports open what else?08:27
intelikeyleve|15 OK I see what -a is supposed to do...  and no it's not listed.08:28
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BluesKajBauldrick, check the DL rate settings08:28
drifBauldrick: bad trackers?08:28
logixoulGuys, how do I disable the effect on opening a folder in Konqueror?08:29
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3919008:29
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Bauldrickblues > I had set max up/download the wrong way round?!! still not very quick though08:30
megalomaniacon one machine i have this problem on another i dont:08:30
megalomaniacwhile compiling i receive this message: checking version of gcc... 4.1.2, bad08:30
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megalomaniaci need gcc3.3 which has been installed...08:31
megalomaniacdo i need a pointer somewhere08:31
phoenixzAnyone who could help me with a dead firefox after a full upgrade with adept?08:31
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Level15phoenixz: what do you get after yourun firefox on konsole?08:32
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phoenixzLevel15, tried it.. nothing.. just type firefox, enter.. and then nothing.. the cursor just waits on the the next line08:34
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Level15hey, anyone got a kde update yesterday and now ktorrent doesn't show some info down?08:34
intelikeysounds like it's opening off screen08:34
phoenixzintelikey, You are talking about FF?08:35
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intelikeyis there a ff itom in the task list    yes   maximize it08:35
Level15phoenixz: i'd recommend you check for stalled firefox processes, kill them if necessary, then run it again. if it doesn't work, try moving your .firefox dir to .firefox.old and run again08:35
phoenixzLevel15, Already done that.. kill -9 `pgrep firefox`08:35
Level15phoenixz: what about damaged profile?08:36
phoenixzLevel15, and moving the .firefox dir is like loosing everything, bookmarks, plugins, etc?08:36
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phoenixzLevel15, How could I check that?08:36
intelikeyphoenixz yes ^08:36
Level15phoenixz: yeah08:36
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phoenixzIs there a way to see what caused the problem?08:37
brycewCan someone please help me with mounting my external hard drive?08:37
Lynourephoenixz: yes, but if it helps, you can move them back bit by bit08:37
Lynourephoenixz: yes, there are ways, but most find them confusing. Ever used strace?08:38
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phoenixzLynoure, Nope.. but there is always a time to start :)08:38
intelikeys/l trace08:38
phoenixzbut let me start with just moving files then..08:39
nosrednaekimbrycew: yep.. just say the problem08:39
megalomaniacbrycew : use the mount command in terminal08:39
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brycewI'm trying to use what I was told the original time..... sudo pmount /dev/sda1 and it usually pulls it up, but today its saying mount point auto does not exist :S08:39
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evgenhi all08:40
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llutzbrycew: create it then and don't use sudo with pmount08:41
Lynourephoenixz: I'm a bit tired to explain it (getting late here), but basicly, start firefox with   strace -s 100 -f firefox   and see where it gets stuck  (pastebin if needed)08:41
brycewso just go pmount /dev/sda1?08:41
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logixoulGuys, how do I disable the effect on opening a folder in Konqueror?08:41
BluesKajlogixoul, 'effect' ?08:42
brycewUsing "pmount /dev/sda1" informs me that "only root can mount /dev/sda1 on auto"08:42
logixoulBluesKaj: the icon quickly zooms in before entering the folder08:43
phoenixzLynoure, actually.. just moved the .mozilla dir.. and it still doesnt start.. Guess the install is damaged or someting08:43
llutzbrycew: so you have a fstab-entry for sda1?08:43
Lynourephoenixz: that's more reason to trace, not less, but you can opt to reinstall first, if you feel like it08:43
brycewllutz: I don't even know what that is lol08:43
phoenixzLynoure, I'll try that, would be easier08:43
Lynourephoenixz: tracing is not difficult, intepreting the results can be08:45
phoenixzLynoure, That, I do know :)08:45
jordi__How do I do to have klipper started everytime I switch on my machine?08:45
logixouljordi__: open klipper and quit it. You will be asked if you want it to autostart08:46
Arwenon Linux, I can create an ISO from a CD by just using dd, right?08:46
BluesKajlogixoul, try system settings/appearance/advanced/set effect08:46
jordi__ok logixoul, I've done it. Now i will reboot and inform about;-)08:47
brycewThe other day I asked in here why my pmount wasn't mounted everytime I started up my computer, I had to run the pmount command to get my external hard drive to register everytime I start up.  Asked how I could get it mounted everytime and someone told me to go to "System Settings" and then to "Disk & Filesystems", click "USB Partition" and mount it in the "media/sda1", enable, save, and it will run everytime I start my computer.... But I08:47
brycewshutdown yesterday, started up today adn now I can't get my external hard drive to open no matter what :-S08:47
logixoulBluesKaj: nope, that's just the colorization08:47
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BluesKajgotta go ...bbl08:47
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logixoulsee ya BluesKaj08:48
phoenixzLynoure, Reinstall did it.. I'll try that strace some time later... Thanks!08:49
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brycewCan someone please help me with my External Hard Drive problem???08:50
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logixoulbrycew: Just state the problem!!!08:50
Lynourephoenixz: it's quite fun. Using it is a bit like having an ant terrarium. =)08:50
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phoenixzLynoure, by god, why didn't you say so before? :)08:51
brycewI cannot get my external hard drive to open up using the mount command... I was told to oepn it using "pmount /dev/sda1" so I can listen to my music on it, but it's saying mount not found :S08:51
Lynourephoenixz: well, nothing stopping you from using it on whatever, but programs that hang are by far most satistying :)08:53
jordi__hey logixoul, the klipper issue is resolved, precious innformation!!! :-))08:53
logixoulhehe :)08:54
phoenixzLynoure, I'll be sure to use that more on problematic programs yeah08:54
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logixouljordi__: btw, you didn't really need to reboot - you could've simply logged out and then in ;)08:54
jordi__Sure, one more experience in my life08:55
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brycewCan someone Please help me with my above question?08:56
cloakable!patience | brycew08:57
ubotubrycew: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:57
logixoulbrycew: what's the EXACT error msg?08:57
intelikeybrycew being usb it's probably not sda this time   try sdb108:58
brycew"mount point does not exist" but every other day I've been able to use the command and now it doesn't work :S08:58
brycewintelikey: device "pmount /dev/sdb1/" does not exist.08:59
intelikeybrycew ok     cat /proc/partitions08:59
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intelikeydon't flood    just look for a sd   something in there09:00
logixoulbrycew: there's difference between /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb1/ - use the former.09:00
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intelikeyah good eye logixoul09:00
brycewdidn't work logixoul09:00
logixoul8)09:00
logixoul8(09:00
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brycewintelikey: I did the command you said... gave me a list of things09:01
logixoulbrycew: same error msg?09:01
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intelikeybrycew yes look through the list    find the partition you want and mount it09:02
brycewintelikey: Nope... it gave me .... "Major minor #blocks name" with a list of different partitions? below.09:02
brycewthere's an sda and sda109:02
intelikeyok sda1 is the partition09:02
intelikeynow   ls /media09:02
intelikeythat's   lower case L S09:03
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intelikeyis there any sda1 in there ?09:03
brycewwouldn't I type ls /media/sda1?09:03
intelikeyno09:03
intelikey ls /media09:03
brycewyes there is sda109:03
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intelikeyok    pmount /dev/sda1 /media/sda109:04
intelikeywhat does that say ?09:04
brycewtype all that in there, space between sda1 /media?09:04
intelikeyyes09:04
brycewIt says the following:...09:05
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brycew"Warning: device /dev/sda1 is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored."......."mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on auto"09:06
intelikeyok looks like fstab is hosed     pastebin your /etc/fstab09:06
intelikey!pastebin09:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:06
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ShelingEvening, all.09:07
brycewso what exactly do I do then?09:07
intelikeyyou can display it with     cat /etc/fstab      then copy and paste into a pastebin page09:07
brycewok09:07
intelikeythen give us the url it gives you   so we can view it.09:08
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brycewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35155/09:08
brycewThat's really cool intelikey thanks for telling me about that pastebin lol09:08
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intelikeybrycew ok line eleven  reads "/dev/sda1  auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0"  should be  "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0"09:09
ShelingCan I bother someone for some advice / instructions on how to get any kind of internet radio software working on KDE?09:09
intelikeybrycew kdesu kate /etc/fstab      and fix it09:10
Sheling(Apologies for interrupting)09:10
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intelikeySheling just ask and if anyone present can answer they will09:10
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template_editor   ?09:10
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ShelingCool - thank you.09:11
logixoultemplate_editor: I can't read what you wrote09:11
flexi-specit was in russian09:11
logixoultemplate_editor: try English09:11
logixoulah09:11
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template_editorbugaga you should not see that gg09:11
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brycewintelikey: It opened a new window, "fstab [modified]  - Kate" and ran a whole bunch of commands (or something) in my terminal after I typed it.09:11
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ShelingIn short, I've been on KDE for 8 months, and love it. But have been invited to DJ for an online station that uses SAM to a Shoutcast server. I've tried Darkice, IceCast and Muse - I don't know enough to know where I'm going wrong, and I refuse to shift back to XP just for this one single purpose (and live without Amarok!)09:12
template_editoranybody know how i can patch kde on frebsd?09:12
intelikeybrycew ?09:12
intelikeykdesu kate /etc/fstab09:12
intelikey???09:12
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brycewYes, I typed that in just like that09:13
ShelingIf someone wants to field this in a side channel or over Skype, I'd be hugely grateful.09:13
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flexi-spec<template_editor> are u kidding?09:13
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brycewNow the last line in the terminal says "kbuildsycoca running..." and a new window popped up called "fstab - kate" with a bunch of text in the window that I can modify09:13
Distro^Junkiewell so far so good for installation of 7.1009:13
Distro^Junkiedoing updates right now09:14
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template_editor<flexi-spec> 09:14
intelikeybrycew and it did what ?   it should have opened a dialog asking for password  "or not"   and then opened the editor "kate" with the fstab file loaded into it09:14
Lynouretemplate_editor: ask on #kde or #freebsd if you are not kidding, this channel is for kubuntu support09:14
brycewYes, it did just that.09:14
logixoulor #kde-freebsd :)09:15
brycewintelikey: It did it all... now I have that kate window open09:15
blekoshi, is there an equivelant for acdsee?09:15
flexi-specor #anime )))09:15
logixoul:p09:15
template_editoror may be #kde-frebsd-ktulhu-question ?09:15
intelikeybrycew and you corrected the mistake in line 11 ?09:15
logixoulblekos: ShowFoto, Digikam, GwenView, Kuickshow09:15
brycewOK... doing that now09:15
logixoulblekos: http://osalt.com09:16
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blekosthnx09:16
brycewOK... copy and pasted over the line that was wrong... what do I do now, save?09:16
logixoulnp09:16
Distro^Junkieanyone here running 7.10 test 5 ?09:17
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intelikeybrycew yes save and exit09:17
NickPrestaDistro^Junkie, #kubuntu+109:17
Distro^Junkiebrb09:17
NickPresta!gutsy | Distro^Junkie09:17
ubotuDistro^Junkie: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+109:17
intelikeybrycew and pmount should now work09:17
Distro^Junkiethanx NickPresta09:17
bauerHowto install libXext on my pretty new ubuntu ?-)09:17
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NickPresta!info libXext09:18
ubotuPackage libxext does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:18
brycewintelikey: so now I type in pmount /dev/sda1/ and it says error, device does not exist.09:18
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intelikeybrycew yes...                   ok now back to my own issue...09:18
template_editorlinux suxx ,windows forever, bye loosers09:18
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logixoulhaha09:19
drifyeah long live vista and prosper..lol09:19
NickPrestahow sad...09:19
logixoulwe didn't see THAT coming... ;)09:19
drifI think vista has done us favour :D people from right and left are fleeing to *nix direction09:19
llutzdrif: that's not a favour09:20
brycewintelikey: OK... I got the external hard drive pmount to show up on the desktop, but when I click the icon it says "Unable to enter file:///media/sda1.  You do not have access rights to this location"09:21
intelikeybrycew ok it's vfat or ntfs ?09:22
brycewintelikey: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're asking.09:22
Distro^Junkiebrycew: what format is the windows partition in ?09:22
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Distro^Junkieis it ntfs or fat32 ?09:23
brycewI think ntfs?09:23
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Distro^Junkieif you did a default install for xp then it would be ntfs09:23
brycewYes, I did Distro.09:24
intelikeybrycew edit the fstab again and make line eleven look like this   "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto user,users,atime,noauto,rw,dmask=022,fmask=133 0 0"09:24
brycewintelikey: I guess it's ntsf then :D09:24
Distro^Junkieok that's what intelikey was wondering09:24
brycewOK... I'll try again lol09:24
Distro^Junkiesometimes we forget to speak layman terms in here so the newbies can understand09:24
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ShelingIs there anyone active at the mo who live streams to a server at all?09:25
intelikeythen umount it and mount it again  should give everyone read access and you only write access   but if it's ntfs you probably don't want to be writing to it without ntfs-3g09:25
intelikey@ brycew  ^09:25
intelikey!info ntfs-3g | brycew09:26
ubotubrycew: ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB09:26
brycewHow do I unmount?09:26
Distro^Junkieumount09:26
brycewty09:26
intelikeyDistro^Junkie yeah that's what i said09:26
Distro^Junkienp09:26
BluesKajdrif, even the outgoing editor of PC Magazine slammed vista for it's dumb architecture and lack backward compatability with previous windows apps..he actaully said he was seriously considering Linux.09:26
Distro^Junkielol he must not of seen it09:26
intelikey</shrugs>09:27
Distro^Junkieas long as he fixes it thats kewl09:27
Distro^Junkiewe all one big community of family09:27
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Distro^Junkiewe the anti windows family lol09:27
intelikeywe is all L-users here mate09:28
brycewintelikey: I am sorry if I'm frustrating you... I'm new to all this... If helping me is interupting something you're trying to do, I can wait for help from someone else... I really do appreciate your assistance this far tho!09:28
BluesKajnot anti windows , just pro Linux09:29
intelikeythat sounds like the "but what do i do now"  should be the next line    lol09:29
Distro^Junkielol09:29
intelikeybrycew and you're not bothering me.09:29
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Distro^JunkieBluesKaj: yea I still use windows for the wife but slowly converting her09:29
brycewintelikey: I umount and pmount it again.... Now the icon opens up from the desktop but it doesn't show anything from my external hard drive in it.  It's blank :-S09:29
intelikey</blinks>09:30
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elvirolohi all09:30
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intelikeyi yih yih yih,, yih       umount it again   and issue   mount /media/sda1    (not pmount)09:30
brycewok09:31
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ubuntufanhello09:32
brycewWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!09:32
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elviroloi have two kubuntu boxes, and i'd like to share files via nfs between them ... the server is configured but i don't know how to st up the client09:32
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brycewintelikey: Thank you sooooo much!!!  You got it running for me :D09:32
intelikeybrycew you finished with me now ?09:32
intelikeybrycew you are quite welcome.09:32
BluesKajDistro^Junkie, congrats ...don't think I'll ever convince wifey to switch to linux...she likes her pc the way it is :) . But, we're an older retired couple and she's not real technically oriented.09:32
llutzintelikey: pmount usually doesn't need any fstab-entry09:32
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intelikeybrycew and that should be permanant.09:33
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brycewintelikey: Yes, I'll stop bugging you lol Your services are no longer needed ;)09:33
intelikeyllutz yeah  but he had an entry,   hosed  but it was there.09:33
Distro^JunkieBluesKaj: I'm almost on my way to a brand new macbook though with the wife09:33
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llutzintelikey:  i know, but don't know WHY he had it .)09:33
brycewSo whenever I want to open up my external hard drive from this point on, will it always be on the desktop or do I have to run the mount /media/sda1 command?09:33
BluesKajnice Distro^Junkie...09:34
intelikeyllutz i don't know why he wanted pmount when a proper fstab and the user can mount it with mount...09:34
intelikeyit's just one more char to type.09:34
intelikeyno special benifit...09:34
llutzintelikey: questions over questions...09:34
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brycewis there a difference between pmount and mount?09:34
intelikeyis that a question llutz   :)09:35
ubuntufanhello, can you please help me install kde?09:35
elvirolocan anyone help me?09:35
intelikeybrycew yes  but for your particular use there just use mount09:35
drifubuntufan: install or configure after installation?09:35
BluesKaj!ask | elvirolo09:35
ubotuelvirolo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:35
brycewSounds good, thank you!09:35
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intelikeynp09:35
ubuntufaninstall09:36
drifubuntufan: because the basic install is as easy as 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'09:36
ubuntufani see it works sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop09:36
drifyes09:36
DirrtysI just started using konversation...how can I hide joins and parts?09:36
intelikeymount is on every linux system   pmount is on most.   if possable i always try to use and reccomend the more general/basic app09:36
ubuntufanand after that .. at the login screen i select kde ?09:36
drifubuntufan: yup09:37
ubuntufanor at startup ?09:37
ubuntufanat the boot loader09:37
intelikeylogin09:37
drifubuntufan: before each login you can decide09:37
brycewCool, thanks :)09:37
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ubuntufanaha, you mean where i enter my password... right?09:37
drifubuntufan: and username09:37
adrianaHi09:38
ubuntufanyes...09:38
llutzpmount (1)           - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user09:38
ubuntufanok thanks man09:38
albertmkI want to play my DVD (movie) in Kubuntu. Whats a good program for that?09:38
adrianathere are spanish here?09:38
intelikeyman mount    mount - mount a file system09:38
brycewOK... another question, but not directed towards Intelikey, you need a break LOL09:38
NickPresta!dvd | albertmk09:38
ubotualbertmk: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs09:38
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drifalbertmk: vlc is one possibility09:38
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albertmkvlc? isnt it just a wmv player?09:39
intelikeyhardly09:39
drifalbertmk: it plays variety of formats09:39
albertmkall right :)09:39
intelikey!info vlc09:39
brycewNow that I've got my external hard drive up and running.... I want to load some songs onto my memory card for me cell phone / mp3 player.  How do I open up a memory card so I can drag and drop songs in so I can use them on my mp3 player?09:39
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB09:39
NickPrestaI like Mplayer and Kaffeine for DVD playback09:39
BluesKajVLC prolly plays more formats than any other media player in existence09:40
ArwenI use MPlayer for everything :-\09:40
ArwenBluesKaj, and yet it can't do subtitles09:40
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intelikeyvlc doesn't need propritary 'corrupt code' for most formats.09:40
albertmkyes, it works09:40
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intelikeybut someone said vlc was ugly09:41
cholloquien me puede decir un server en espaol09:41
BluesKajArwen, I don't watch a lot of movies on my pc09:41
NickPresta!es | chollo09:41
ubotuchollo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:41
intelikeywhen i do watch a movie on here it's with vlc in a console using svgalibs   no xorg/x11 needed09:41
BluesKajintelikey, for those who want eyecandied media players ...i have just one suggestion ..09:42
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intelikeyand it's not console   is it ?09:43
intelikey:009:43
BluesKajnope :)09:43
Arweneye candy media player?09:43
Arwenwha09:43
Arwen?09:43
intelikeyArwen skins bells and whistles09:44
brycewHow do I view what's on a memory card for my mp3 player?  I want to transfer songs so I can listen to it on my mp3 player.09:44
BluesKajif the frame is more importanr than the content , then i have nothing to say09:44
NickPrestabrycew, you can mount it as a memory card or mount it as a media device in Amarok or something similar09:44
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brycewwhat would be the mount command that I would run?09:45
conrad__anyone know what to do if firefox crashes every time i download something?09:45
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llutzBluesKaj: in most movies, the frame is more interesting than the content :)09:45
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NickPrestabrycew, I would think your memory card would be auto-mounted. The `mount` command should do it. Let me check the man pages...09:45
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BluesKajhehe, llutz...was waiting for that one :)09:46
intelikeybrycew does depend on the format of the fs    sudo mount /dev/<device> /media/<mountpoint> -o <options>         <<< that's the generic syntax  translate all within <>09:46
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intelikeyllutz here here !09:46
intelikeyor dito09:46
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intelikeyor what ever is aproprate09:46
brycewNickPresta:  lol Thanks :D09:46
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BluesKajbrycew, what's your pc , if you don't mind my curiousity ?09:47
NickPrestabrycew, yes. You don't need to know the mount type in most cases, I just discovered. So a simple `mount /dev/DEVICENAME /media/MOUNTPOINT` should suffice09:48
intelikeybrycew and being new to linux let me introduce you to the manual pages for the commands you use.    in the konsole type;   man intro09:48
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bauerhow do i get the KDE headers installed ?09:48
intelikeybrycew that's a short read on how manual pages and the pager work.09:48
brycewintelikey: Thanks... looking into it now :)09:49
Arwenbauer, apt-get install kde-dev I think09:49
intelikeybauer sudo apt-get install kde-dev      ?09:49
intelikeynot sure about the package name09:49
brycewNickPresta: Thanks, going to try that in one sec.09:49
llutzbauer: install kde-devel09:49
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Arwenyeah, kde-devel09:49
bauerArwen, intelikey , llutz  Thx :o)09:49
combohow can i remove all ATI drivers (XGL, fglrx and the rest of AIGLX) so i can try to install them once again ? :] 09:50
ArwenXGL isn't a driver. AIGLX too.09:50
intelikeybrycew then afterwards if you need info on the mount command   you type     man mount      and either use the  /<string> search feature or the navigation keys and look up what you want.09:50
comboi've just tried many kind of drivers but all of them sux :] 09:50
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comboArwen: ok, i don't know how to call them09:50
comboi just want to REMOVE them at all!09:50
combocan u help ? :S09:51
intelikeybrycew and there are man pages for most commands    and mount is on most linux installations.09:51
NickPrestacombo, you can fire up Adept and search for them and remove them. You can also use the console: `sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE`09:51
intelikeyerrr not mount.  man09:51
Arwenyou can't remove AIGLX, but apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx xserver-xgl will get rid of the other two09:51
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brycewintelikey: Thanks... wrote it all down in my notebook for the future :D reading this intro right now09:51
intelikeyok lesson is over,  school is out.09:52
combook thanks, i'll try that :)09:52
NickPrestaI wish I would've kept notes on what I learnt when I was new to GNU+Linux. It would've saved me time searching Google and such.09:52
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brycewI've got about 30 pages in this notebook full with stuff already and I've only been on linux 5 days :S09:53
NickPrestaheh. That's good. Check out the command `apropos` if you haven't already09:54
NickPrestait's invaluable09:54
brycewSo to mount my memory card, I can do it by mounting the "name"?  Example, mount /dev/scandisk right?09:54
combocan i delete all XORG ? i mean xorg-input, xserver-xgl, xserver-xorg-core, e.g. ? :}09:55
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combothere are many of this stuff09:55
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capiiraif you don't need a graphical gui then yes09:55
comboor this is bad idea ? :}09:55
capiirayou will end in the shell by deleting xorg09:56
combocapiira: graphical gui? i just want to uninstall all my drivers so i can install them again09:56
combocuz i have to big mess with them :] 09:56
capiiraby deleting xorg you will in th shell09:56
capiirawithout gnome/kde09:56
combocapiira: so - as i can see - it's very baaad move :}09:56
brycewNickPresta: I typed apropos and it told me apropos what?09:56
drifNickPresta: appropos <word>09:57
combocapiira: so how can i delete fglrx shit ?09:57
drifsrry :D09:57
drifI meant bryce..09:57
drifsigh09:57
capiiradont know i never owned a ati09:57
comboi was trying first to install AIGLX then fglrx09:57
comboand then XGL or something09:57
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capiiraalways avoided it :D09:57
comboam not sure :/ what should i do ? :|09:57
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capiirayou cant install AIGLX09:57
combocapiira: why avoid? ;>09:57
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capiiraits part of xorg09:57
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combocapiira: why cannot?!09:58
brycewlol thanks drif09:58
comboi had AIGLX before ;P09:58
capiiramaybe you enabled and disabled it09:58
capiirabut not uninstalled09:58
BluesKajcombo, what ati card do you have ?09:58
comboBluesKaj: ATI Radeon 960009:58
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comboi have NOT too much knowledge 'bout that topic :/09:58
AngelusBluesKaj: do you know some good identd program , i want to use it for IRC to give ident reponse, i already tried pidentd and oidentd but no luck09:59
BluesKajand what are trying to do09:59
comboactually i DON'T have ANY knowledge ... 've been trying to do that with some HOW-TOs :/09:59
NickPrestawell, you have to see what it's device name is. Open up KControl (`kcontrol`) and go to Disk & Filesystem. It should tell you what various things are.  My CD burners are /dev/hda and hdb. My USB card reader is /dev/sda and sdb09:59
combobut doesn't work09:59
NickPrestato brycew of course09:59
BluesKajAngelus, why are you trying ident ?09:59
brycewOK... I'll give that a shot NickPresta!09:59
Angeluscause i want to ident on IRC10:00
Angelus:/10:00
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BluesKajdo you mean register your nick , Angelus ?10:00
Angelusno10:00
Angelusidentd dude10:00
comboBluesKaj: i want to remove all AIGLX and fglrx stuff so i can install it clearly again - this time only file: 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'10:00
capiiramaybe your router is blocking the port10:00
Angelussee this >n=demon@10:00
Angeluson my whois10:00
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Angelusthats the ident10:00
combohope it'll work10:00
Angelusif i give ident response that n= will go away10:01
capiira113 is blocked10:01
capiiraport forward it10:01
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BluesKajcombo, if you have the patience , you might try this tutorial ; http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty10:01
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capiirayou can't ident if 113 is blocked10:03
BluesKajsorry Angelus , you lost me10:03
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Angelusok :o10:03
DagonITI just installed Kubuntu 64 and apparently broke adaptec. How do I fix it?10:03
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brycewNickPresta: It's not showing me anything for the memory card.  I'm not even getting any popup when I push in the duo adapter scandisk thingy.... Nothing showing up in the Disk & Filesystems? :(10:03
NickPrestabrycew, is this memory card going into a card reader or directly to a USB interface?10:04
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brycewNickPresta: The memory card is placed into a little converter thingy that I place into the slot on my laptop (sorry I'm not very technical or word savvy here lol)10:06
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NickPrestain the Disk & Filesystems window, you don't see anything that says "Removable USB Disk ..." or anything like that?10:07
brycew<<< Memory Stick Duo Adapter >>> with memory card inserted, then I insert the adapter into the computer, if that makes any better sense lol10:07
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brycewNickPresta: I do, but it's only showing my external hard drive.10:07
NickPrestahmm okay.10:08
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GuyFromHellHow can i set up ipw4945 on feisty?10:10
GuyFromHelloh nvm just found it ;)10:10
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brycewI've searched everyone on google.com/linux for mounting a memory card, but no success :S10:12
NickPrestawhich laptop do you have?10:12
brycewNickPresta: Compaq Presario R300010:13
BluesKajbrycew, do you have flash installed10:14
BluesKajand are you using kubuntu 64 biy distro ?10:15
BluesKajbit10:15
brycewBluesKaj: I believe so... not certain tho... I performed all the updates and downloads as I browsed the net, I think one requested me to download flash if that's what you're referring to.10:15
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brycewkubuntu 7.0410:15
drifbrycew: no, do you have flash inserted - I believe that's wat he asked10:15
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drifor..10:16
BluesKajTexas Instruments PCI-1620 Cardbus PCMCIA with Ultramedia flash reader10:16
brycewNo I don't think I do then :S10:16
rustalotI got a new laptop (a Dell Inspiron 1420 ) and when I try to do start or install, it goes to a shell and gives me an error about 'can't access tty, job control turned off'10:17
rustalotthe shell is Debian BusyBox v1.1.3 Built-in shell (ash)10:18
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BluesKajbrycew, lsb_release -a .. will tell you which version of kubuntu you are running ...I suspect some of your probs are related, if it's the 64bit version10:21
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brycew7.0410:22
brycewBluesKaj: 7.04 Feisty10:22
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BluesKajoops wrong cmnd , i guess10:23
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BluesKajbbl...gotta set up the BBQ10:24
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AzzcoCan anyone recomend a IM that has decent filetransfer on linux (I'd like if if can be used with kopete)10:32
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NickPrestaAzzco, what do you mean a decent IM?10:33
NickPrestaYou said Kopete. The other big IM client is Gaim/Pidgin.10:33
AzzcoMainly a Im that anyone could consider to use10:33
NickPrestaGaim/Pidgin10:33
AzzcoWell I meant the protocol10:33
NickPrestaoh.10:34
Azzcosorry if that was unlcear10:34
NickPrestawell, I don't think any are particularly good. It would probably be better to find a site that you can upload files to and distribute the link...10:34
AzzcoOkay in a swedish ubuntu site they talked alot about jabber being so good but I haven't had the time to try it out10:34
Azzcoonly tried google talk once (jabber based I think) and it didn't seem so good..10:35
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johnny_Hi10:39
CPrompt^hello10:40
NickPresta!hi10:40
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:40
johnny_Cool with Kubuntu10:40
johnny_Thanks10:40
johnny_Automatix2 is fucking good10:40
NickPresta!automatix10:40
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)10:40
CPrompt^it screws up some stuff johnny_10:41
johnny_Like what?10:41
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CPrompt^don't try to do a dist-upgrade with it installed.  it will crash10:41
johnny_No, I won't upgrade my distro with it.10:41
johnny_But many cool programs10:42
CPrompt^no real need for it anyway.  that's what adept is for ;)10:42
BluesKajAzzco, MS messenger works well in kopete ...used a few times with no probs10:42
johnny_Right.10:42
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johnny_The new aMSN is very good10:42
NickPrestajohnny_, automatix may be fine for now, but remember !automatix10:42
AzzcoBluesKaj: I'm having serius problems with file transfer on MSN all files I get are corrupt..10:42
NickPrestaAzzco, I've never had that problem using MSN on Pidgin/Gaim10:43
coreymon77johnny_: never use automatix!10:43
johnny_Hm. Why not just upload it to www.sendspace.com for free?10:43
BluesKajwhoa Azzco , that's bad ...din't know that10:43
AzzcoI'd really like to stay with kopete :( I've themed it nicely and gotten used to it10:43
coreymon77johnny_: it breaks systems10:43
johnny_So people can download afterwoods10:43
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coreymon77johnny_: apt does the exact same thing and does not brea systems10:44
AzzcoI've only expereienced corrupt file transfers kopete client to kopete10:44
johnny_Autsomatix breaks systems?10:44
coreymon77yes10:44
coreymon77!automatix10:44
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)10:44
coreymon77see10:44
coreymon77johnny_: just use apt, or adept, or aptitude10:44
johnny_OK, I get it.10:45
coreymon77johnny_: good10:45
johnny_But I use it for some installations10:45
coreymon77johnny_: dont10:45
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coreymon77johnny_: just use apt10:45
AzzcoWhy is those programs so popular..10:45
johnny_Is it som bad?10:45
johnny_so10:45
coreymon77johnny_: yes10:45
Angelushello10:45
Angeluscan somone help me with the folowing errorplease ? http://rafb.net/p/nsdlvI66.html10:45
johnny_Hm. I thought it was very good10:45
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coreymon77johnny_: use it if you want to, but youve been warned10:46
CPrompt^johnny_ : i have never found a program that I couldn't install on Kubuntu.  At least one for linux anyway.10:46
coreymon77johnny_: if it breaks your system, dont come crawling to us, we wont help you10:46
Angeluscan somone help me with the folowing errorplease ? http://rafb.net/p/nsdlvI66.html10:46
johnny_Well, I have uset Linux for less than a year....10:46
BioVorEAngelus: cd: 1: can't cd to ../tools  <-- build script can't cd into that directory..10:46
AngelusBioVorE:10:46
coreymon77johnny_: just use apt instead10:46
Angeluswhat can i do about it?10:46
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BioVorEno clue.. your building it..10:46
Angelushmm10:46
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Angelusits cedega's source10:47
Angeluswinex10:47
Angelus:/10:47
johnny_Yes, but I do. Autsomatix for smoe updates10:47
johnny_some10:47
johnny_Sorry10:47
BioVorEand.. you expect CVS to build all the time..10:47
Angelus:o10:47
Angeluswhy not?10:47
BioVorESomeone could be add stuff to it..10:47
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Q-collectivehey all, can I have some packages in unstable while staying mainly in stable for the rest of the system? In Gentoo there is this concept of package.* lists that mask or unmask stable/unstable packages at will. But I can see that this would be more troublesome with a binary distro which is linked against a certain versioned set of libraries10:47
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AngelusO_o10:47
BioVorECVS is what the developers use.. Some could be 1/2 written10:47
johnny_Shit.10:47
brycewHas anyone ever used "usbutils" debugging USB?10:48
BioVorELook for nightly builds10:48
AngelusBioVorE: does kubuntu has any package of a sucesfull build of winex?10:48
johnny_I have problems with connecting too a USB extern harddrive10:48
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BioVorEno.. winex is comercial..10:49
Q-collectivecedega*10:49
SanneQ-collective: usually it's mostly troublesome and better to backport unstable sources to stable.10:49
brycewJohnny, you ever figure out the problem?10:49
BioVorEthe source you download isn't the full thing..10:49
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Angelusyeah but its CVS its free10:49
Angelus:/10:49
Angelusoh10:49
BioVorEthere are close source parts10:49
Q-collectivecvs cedega is crippled10:49
johnny_No. I can get small USB-drives too function, but not as big as 250 GB10:49
ArwenCVS cedega doesn't have the DRM emulation code10:50
AngelusBioVorE: does something free like Cedega exist?10:50
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Q-collectivebesides, wine has improved a lot in the past two years10:50
brycewI am trying to download pictures from my memory card, I cannot get it to read onlinux :(10:50
BioVorEwine.. the free version..10:50
Q-collectiveso, go for wine10:50
Angelusbeside wine :S10:50
Arwenwine isn't the "free version"10:50
ArwenWINE is WINE10:50
Q-collectiveAngelus: what is wrong with wine?10:50
BioVorEwww.winehq.com  I think..10:50
Angeluscause when i wined War Craft 3 it worked very very slow10:50
Angelus:/10:50
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BioVorEyup.. sounds like wine.. works like crap imo10:51
Q-collectiveAngelus: you have your drivers properly setup?10:51
johnny_This is a support channel?10:51
BioVorEtry #wine10:51
Q-collective#winehq10:51
Angeluswhat drivers Q-collective?10:51
Q-collectivevideodrivers10:52
brycewIf I want to open a directory, I would type command "cd usbutils-0.72" correct?10:52
Q-collectivewhat else10:52
Q-collectivebrycew: correct10:52
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brycewit keeps telling me "No such file or directory" but I just downloaded it and extracted it to the kdesktop, but doesn't pull up in the terminal.10:53
johnny_Hmm.. Well anyway, I really like Linux, even after my short time on it.10:53
BioVorE!cave10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
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BioVorEwrong chan10:53
Q-collectivebrycew: try to use tab-completion, you may be mistyping it10:53
johnny_I guess10:53
Mr_Sonomajohnny_, yes this is a support channel. but automatrix is not a supported app10:53
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brycewQ-collective: what do you mean tab-completion?10:53
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johnny_No, I just tested this app for first time, the irc10:54
Q-collectivebrycew: try to type Q-<tabkey> in this irc channel10:54
Q-collective;)10:54
Bauldrickive allowed port 6881 through my router  but kubuntu seems to be blocking it (iptables?)10:54
johnny_So I did not know what it was10:54
AngelusQ-collective: do i have 3D accel like this http://rafb.net/p/Xb7LZf20.html ?10:54
brycewQ-collective: gotcha!  This works in the terminal as well for names?10:54
brycewnames / applications10:54
johnny_I get the sam probleme with same port and a router10:55
Q-collectivebrycew: it works for commands, locations, etc10:55
johnny_ON aMSN10:55
Bauldrickjohnny?10:55
johnny_yes?10:55
_aaanick dac10:55
Bauldricksolution10:55
brycewSo in other words... type... " cd usb <tab> and it will finish the rest of the application name?10:55
johnny_I don't have it10:55
Q-collectiveAngelus: glxgears is not a good app to show that10:55
BluesKajbrycew, the terminal assumes you have the file in /home/yourname.  that's prolly why the konsole doesn't see it10:55
Q-collectiveAngelus: try glxinfo | grep direct10:56
_aaanick _dac10:56
Bauldricklol !! ok10:56
brycewBluesKaj: So what do I need to do in order to change that?10:56
AngelusQ-collective: there's a difference beetween Direct Rendering and 3D accel10:56
Q-collectiveis there?10:56
Angelusyeah10:56
Q-collectivesince when? ;)10:56
Angeluseven on cedega , there are 2 tests, direct rendering and 3D accell10:57
BluesKajcd to /home/desktop or move the file into yout /home/yourname directory10:57
BluesKajyout=your10:57
johnny_How to mount a usb hardrive?10:57
Q-collectivekubuntu should mount it10:57
Mr_Sonomauh plug it in?10:57
johnny_It don't10:57
johnny_Yes, plug in.10:57
johnny_But can't see it10:58
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johnny_It won't mount10:58
brycewBluesKaj: When I downloaded it from the internet, I downloaded "usbutilis-0.72.tar.gz" and extracted it to my kdesktop, so wouldn't that mean it's already in "/home/myname/"?10:58
Q-collectiveok, open a konsole and type sudo dmesg to see what is wrong10:58
johnny_Ok10:58
Q-collectiveafter you plugged it in10:58
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Q-collectiveAngelus: so, what is the difference then?10:59
szollosyghey10:59
BluesKajno, you brycew , you have to tell what ever browser you're using to DL to the /home/myname10:59
johnny_vmmon: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.11:00
Angelusi dunno Q-collective, but i never passed cedega's 3D accell but Direct rendering i always passed it11:00
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johnny_ ppdev0: unregistered pardevice11:00
Sannebrycew: usbutils is in the ubuntu repository, you can install it via adept/synaptic/apt11:00
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johnny_Thanks11:00
Q-collectiveAngelus: then I guess cedega doesn't make a difference between direct rendering and mesa rendering11:00
johnny_usbutils?11:01
Q-collectivewhich indeed is a difference11:01
szollosygis there someone who is willing to help me install compiz fusion on kubuntu fiesty with an ATI X1100? please?11:01
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brycewSanne: Ok, I'm going to give it a shot that way, thanks for the suggestion!11:01
jason__10Hello11:01
Q-collectivedo the fglrx drivers play nice with compiz goodness these days?11:01
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brycewSanne: It says it's already installed :S11:03
Sannebrycew: you're welcome :). It's the recommended way to install software, because it's already compiled for your system. Otherwise you'd have to compile it yourself, and the package manager wouldn't know about it. So better first search if an app is in the repositiries.11:03
Sannebrycew: oh! so you have it :)11:03
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jason__10anyone here a linux administrator?11:04
knightzwhy?11:04
Q-collectiveanyone with their own computer?11:04
Q-collective:-)11:04
knightzwhy?11:04
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Q-collectiveknightz: that was an answer to jason__10 btw11:05
brycewThat was refreshing to scream and cry lol11:05
jason__10im just wandering about what sort of qualifications if any they have11:05
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Q-collectivebrycew: just plug the camera in?11:05
runleveltenWhy don't you just plug your digital camera in?!11:05
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jason__10Q-collective: I mean for a company,11:06
debiani386hi every111:06
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knightzf-qualification..... is not skillz11:06
brycewBecause I only have a memory card for it.11:06
Sannebrycew: some devices use non standard protocols that may not be supported by Linux.11:06
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jason__10like does any one get paid for their linux knowledge11:06
debiani386jason >> i do :P11:06
jason__10hi debiani38611:06
jason__10:)11:06
runleveltenjason__10: Yes.11:06
debiani386hi jason11:06
BioVorEI know people.. I do sometimes..11:06
jason__10debiani386: thanks for updating the site11:06
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debiani386jason >> your welcom11:06
debiani386welcome **11:07
jason__10BioVorE: and runlevelten I would like to get paid for using linux :)11:07
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Q-collectivejason__10: there are the RedHat qualifications, they're just about the industry standard in the linux world11:07
brycewSanne: Do you know what a "SanDisk" Memory Stick Duo Adapter is?  I've my memory card in it, placed into my laptop and it won't read the card... Is this specifically only for windows OS or no?11:07
debiani386jason >> i also recommended this stie to some of my friends11:07
runleveltenfor using?11:07
runleveltenheh11:07
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debiani386jason >> i told them if they have any computer problems, go to that site and we will help11:07
jason__10brycew:  It should work, i think you will have to manually mount it tho, you tried?11:07
jason__10debiani386:  OK excellent11:07
coreymon77debiani386: what ste?11:07
coreymon77debiani386: you mean this channel?11:08
debiani386core >> stimulus.newsit.es11:08
coreymon77oh11:08
brycewjason__10: I've tried everything and I'm about ready to scream lol11:08
runleveltenI use a memory stick pro duo plugged into my phone, so I can't vouch for bothering with pooter card slots.11:08
jason__10coreymon77:  its mine and debiani386's site11:08
coreymon77brycew: whats the matter11:08
jason__10brycew:11:08
jason__10do you have a yahoo , msn or aim account?11:09
brycewI use this memory card for my phone as well.... it's a digital camera, phone, palm pilot, etc.... it's a 100 gig memory card and works perfect with windows but soon as I try to work it in here, I get nothing.11:09
runleveltenHang on, I think I upgraded and it's now a micro m211:09
brycewjason__10: I have all of them11:09
runleveltenwhat phone do you have?11:09
runleveltenbrycew: ^11:09
jason__10add properganja_j to yahoo11:09
brycewrunlevelten: the one I'm using right now is w810i11:09
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runleveltensony ericsson? Will work as a USB mass storage device, and the memory card will be mounted as a second device.11:10
runleveltenk800s, w800s (and the 10s and is)11:10
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brycewrunlevelten: yes, sony ericsson11:10
Sannebrycew: sorry, I'm not familiar with those devices. But I see you already got better help :)11:10
runleveltenAssuming you're using Kubuntu, that is.11:11
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brycewrunlevelten: I'm using kubuntu 7.0411:12
brycewSanne: Thanks a million!11:12
jason__10brycew: do can I chat to you on yahoo?11:12
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pontiacrun whats up11:12
runleveltenWell I'd put it in the phone and plug the phone in using the data cable that comes with them :)11:13
runleveltenhi pontiac :)11:13
pontiacrun you from usa11:13
brycewI can't find the data cable :(11:13
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runleveltenOh no :(11:13
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brycewI know! lol11:13
pontiaci remove  my kubuntu 8611:14
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pontiactoo hard11:14
brycewI think I found some help tho... :)11:14
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runleveltenSee, they expose a nice simple usb mass storage device, so your camera + memory stick will work with digikam, amarok, picasa etc.11:14
runleveltenand be seen as two separate devices.11:14
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passhello, anybody knows how to configure a vivo (video in video out) card with kubuntu?11:15
runleveltenAlso, the sony ericsson phones talk vcs, so you can sync up events from korganiser with the calendar on the phone.11:16
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runleveltenand vice versa11:16
passrunlevelten - hello11:16
runleveltenIt ain't quite syncml, but it makes the phone much more useful.11:17
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runleveltenpass: hello11:17
passrunleveltenn: got a clue on how to configure a vivo card to work with linux?11:18
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runleveltenwot sort of vivo card?11:20
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passrunlevelten: leadtek geforce 4 ti 440011:21
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runleveltenLast I was aware of, people were using rivaTV, but don't quote me on that as it's not something I encounter often11:22
runlevelten!vivo11:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vivo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:23
runlevelten!rivatv11:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rivatv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:23
passah i C, rivatv is no longer working with newer drivers11:23
passsuppose there was another way..11:23
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runleveltenAre you sure? On a card that old?11:25
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t00nahello11:26
t00nais there a KDE way to figure out what kind of RAM i have?11:26
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passrunlevelten: thx man, i'll figure it out somehow...11:27
runleveltenthere are a couple of 4ti's supported here, it seems http://rivatv.sourceforge.net/status.html11:27
passye i am looking a that now11:27
fusspilsI have 2 WIFI cards installed and they show up as eth1 and eth2.  I installed the hostap drivers, rebooted but they still show up as ethx.  Can I force ONE card to use the hostap drivers?11:27
passi will try it anyway11:27
passthx man11:28
runleveltenworth a shot, innit?11:28
runleveltennp, but I wish I was more help with that.11:28
passit's old rusty hardware, wasn't expecting much11:28
passvivo is something hard to get here11:28
passin linux i mean11:28
runleveltenStill, it's nice old rusty hardware. Lot of respect for the 4 tis11:29
t00nahello?11:29
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runleveltent00na: what do you mean "what kind of ram"?11:31
Kartirunlevelten: I think he may mean DDR2 800 etc (but I might be wrong!)11:33
t00naKarti is correct.11:33
Cannoliwht would cause linux games to run slow on a 512mb ati 1650?11:33
t00naI can't figure out how to crack this case open...11:33
Cannoli:S11:33
BioVorEt00na: try a bigger hammer11:34
t00na:D11:34
sparrI installed w32codecs and now mplayer can play everything i want, but xine still cant.  No xine means no kaffeine.  Help?11:34
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runleveltent00na: you can look in case or in the BIOS to find that the quickest.11:34
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runleveltenCannoli: lack of 3d support?11:35
Cannoliwht u mean?11:35
hitmanWillysparr, libxine-extracodecs11:35
Cannolido i need a driver for my card or something?11:35
KartiDoesn't the live cd have a memory test on it, as well11:35
runleveltenwhat does glxinfo | grep endor get you?11:35
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runleveltenin a konsole11:35
runleveltenCannoli: yes, you'll probably need to install the ATi drivers to play games.11:36
Cannoliand those are available through the add and remove programs?11:36
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runlevelten!ati11:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:36
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Cannoliah ic11:37
Cannolity11:37
Cannoli :)11:37
hufi#kubuntu-de11:37
runleveltennp :)11:38
hitmanWillysparr, or set up kaff to use mplayer for the backend11:38
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runleveltenspeaking of 3d, it's time for me to get some clan practise in. Later all.11:41
sparrhitmanWilly: im not getting an option for anything other than xine for the kaff backend.  and i dont like kaff anyways.  im tempted to just uninstall it11:42
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Cannolithe tutorial says i have to get to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager11:46
Cannolihow would i do that11:46
Cannoli?11:46
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Cannolianyone?11:51
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tuxedo_hey i am new to this linux stuff  this thing any good?11:52
Cannolihellz yea11:52
VSpikeShould a font a 8pt size appear the same actual size in all screen resolutions?11:52
Cannolii started abt a week and a half ago11:52
Cannoliim not going back to windows11:53
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moyeri have a problem11:53
tuxedo_haha you know any good places for games11:53
moyeri cant view linux drive i get this error11:53
CannoliVSpike: i dont think screen rez does anything to the fonts11:53
Cannolias far as i know11:53
moyerhal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99911:53
moyeri cant view windows partition rather.. sorry11:53
mrksbrdtuxedo, when u first start, it will be very frustrating, when u get used to it there's no limit on what u can do on this os11:54
Cannolituxedo_: in linux, theres an option called add and remove programs, and it acts as a downloader for every avail program for linux, including tonnnneess of games11:54
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Cannolimrksbrd: do u knw how i might be able to get to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager?11:54
VSpikeCannoli: that's what I thought too11:55
tuxedo_alright sweet  thanks guys  i do like os11:55
mrksbrdu need to do re-down load the app?11:55
Cannolino11:55
Cannolii need to open it11:55
VSpikeCannoli: sudo restricted-manager11:56
Cannolii cant find it to run it11:56
mrksbrdu using GNOME?11:56
VSpikeCannoli: scratch that... kdesu restricted-manager11:56
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Cannoliyep i just did that. thanx vspike11:56
Cannoli!gnome11:56
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.11:57
migloHi all! Does someone know a channel about tv recording? does someone have experience with that?11:57
Cannolino im using kubuntu11:57
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VSpikeI can't make any application print photos properly, which is incredibly annoying11:57
mrksbrdnot sure in kubuntu, what are u trying to add???11:57
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VSpikewhat's the state of the free nvidia driver like at the moment?11:59
VSpikeHow functional is it?11:59
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debiani386the nvidia driver is still a bit glitch12:00
debiani386glitchy*12:00
debiani386I use an ati, but the people on the ubuntu support list are having problems with Beryl and there using the new opensource nvidia driver12:01
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BioVorE!nvidia12:02
VSpikenew opensource driver? you mean latest release of it, or an actual new effort?12:02
Cannolihahah12:02
Cannolii just got wine12:02
CannoliXD12:02
mrksbrdcannoli, try a prog called automatix12:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:02
Cannolifor wht?12:02
debiani386spike >> according to the mailing list, it was the latest release12:02
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ubuntus12:03
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VSpikeCannoli: seriously, don't try automatix12:03
BioVorE!automatix12:03
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)12:03
VSpikeBioVorE: I have the binary drivers installed thanks - just wondering how functional the free ones are12:04
Cannoli:O12:04
Cannoliit breaks ur system?12:04
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Cannoli!toolbar12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about toolbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
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Cannolihow do i open my little tool abr again12:05
VSpikedebiani386: I'm not actually using any effects, or playing any 3d games.  I do have some occasional stability problems with the X server though, and I'm wondering if they are related to the binary driver12:05
Cannolithe one on the bottom of my screen12:05
Cannoliwhich tells time and stuff12:05
VSpikeCannoli: kicker12:05
Cannoliah ic12:05
Cannolithanx12:05
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Cannolik imma go take a nap12:05
Cannolig'night12:05
sparrwhy do people use kaffeine?  i cant find anything to like about it, and it annoys me in so many ways.12:06
VSpikeI was thinking about trying the free one for a while to see if its more stable, but it depends how usable it actually is12:06
drifsparr: me neither, although I did watch dvb broadcasts with it12:06
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sparrgoddamnit12:08
sparri had kmplayer working12:08
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sparrnow mplayer plays outside the kmplayer window12:08
sparrwtf?12:08
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chollohi12:22
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brycewHow do I find a usb connection?  It's not popping up when I connect the cord.12:23
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chollosorry pero por enesima vez cual son los canales en espaol12:25
chollopara guardarlos12:25
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BioVorE!es12:25
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:25
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VSpikebrycew: suggest you do tail -f /var/log/messages and then plug it in again and look for useful stuff12:27
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brycewVSpike: What exactly am I looking for that is useful?  Nothing new popped up once I plugged it in again.12:30
jason__10brycew:  we're still here we think we have your solution have you decided not to go ahead?12:30
brycewJason__10 tried messaging you guys and never got a response... figured you guys left :( I'll look you up on yahoo again.12:30
VSpikebrycew: anything relating to usb12:31
jason__10ah sorry probably a yahoo prob12:31
VSpikebrycew: did you not see a bunch of messages appear when you plugged it in?12:31
brycewNope, I saw a bunch of messages before I plugged in12:31
VSpikebrycew: sounds like a non-functional port or device then, I think.. not sure though12:32
brycewHmmm... maybe I'll plug it into my other usb port :)12:32
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VSpikebrycew: try "dmesg | grep -i usb"12:32
ubuntufanguys .. please help!12:33
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ubuntufanhow can i acces a windows partition ?12:33
draikDoes anyone have XMAME-X installed? I can't seem to play of the games in the archive of ROMs which I have downloaded.12:33
draikubuntufan: Do you know how to mount a drive?12:34

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