[12:35] <Karti> !es | chollo
[12:35] <ubotu> chollo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:36] <chollo> tanks
[12:38] <zgmf-x20a> hmm.. hey maybe a solution, but not sure if it can be done.  can i upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 with either the alternate or live cds?
[12:39] <zgmf-x20a> can i upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 with either the alternate or live cds?
[12:40] <drif> zgmf-x20a: not sure where BluesKaj threw realtek into air..but I'd look for intel based
[12:42] <zgmf-x20a> drif: aight let me do a search on that, but hey do you knoe if i can do a straight upgrade with the 7.04 cd??
[12:42] <lorenz> list
[12:43] <zgmf-x20a> drif: also, the netwrok into is for the wireless ...  not the hard wired, which im trying to fix first
[12:44] <drif> zgmf-x20a: then look for 3945ABG and 4965AGN
[12:45] <zgmf-x20a> drif: yes i will, but im not concerned with wireless at the moment, the most impt thing is the hardware internet connection
[12:45] <zgmf-x20a> erm hardline i mean
[12:45] <drif> zgmf-x20a: I guess you could add you 7.04 cd as repository and do dist-upgrade.. not sure if it works or is safe though
[12:45] <zgmf-x20a> hmmm yah me netiehr....
[12:46] <drif> zgmf-x20a: I'm not quite following your driver needs there..
[12:47] <zgmf-x20a> lol.  basically, i need to get unknown device 1969:1048 (rev b0) up and running somehow
[12:47] <drif> zgmf-x20a: which is network device?
[12:48] <drif> zgmf-x20a: your LAN is Attansic L1 gigabit and WLAN either 3945ABG and/or 4965AGN - what else do you need?
[12:48] <Dave132> how do I deal with the items in the lost and found?
[12:48] <Angelus> what options i must use to open konqueror as a web browser instead of file manager?
[12:48] <yotta> is there any way to get  konsole to use a PCF font.
[12:48] <Ralesk> just run simply konqueror, methinks > Angelus
[12:48] <drif> Angelus: it functions as both..just add http:// and it's web browser
[12:49] <drif> Angelus: on the address bar
[12:50] <martinez> welcome
[12:50] <yotta> I wanna use ProFont in konsole... I suppose I could use the ttf verison
[12:51] <martinez> question: many diffrences between alternate & desktop?? because i perform to install...
[12:52] <drif> martinez: one difference is the installation environment I think - desktop is graphical and alternative ins't - helps troubleshooting some cases
[12:52] <zgmf-x20a> drif: lol, i dont need to use wireless right now, i need the ethernet controller up and running
[12:52] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ok so i found the solution but not sure how to do it
[12:53] <drif> zgmf-x20a: lol to yourself..LAN is ETHERNET controller not WLAN
[12:53] <Angelus> hmm strange thing, when i try to use Konqueror with Amsn to open the hotmail emails, it keeps loading, but with other webrowsers like opera and firefox it works fine
[12:53] <mariooliveira> hello  how do i install firefox. i download firefox and  untar it to /opt/firefox/ folder
[12:53] <drif> zgmf-x20a: ethernet and network controller - same thing
[12:53] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ok.  lol.  so, how do i install this :atl1 driver in kernel >=2.6.22
[12:53] <zgmf-x20a> ?????????
[12:53] <Dave132> how do i delete the items in lost and found?
[12:54] <drif> zgmf-x20a: try modprobe
[12:54] <martinez> drif: and which is better?
[12:54] <zgmf-x20a> drif: i have no idea what that is
[12:54] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[12:54] <drif> where did you find abou this :atl1?
[12:54] <drif> about
[12:55] <zgmf-x20a> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_F3SC
[12:55] <martinez> drif: maybe another question, can i easy install alternate or it's pain of head?
[12:55] <zgmf-x20a> drif: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_F3SC
[12:55] <drif> martinez: both should be quite similar
[12:56] <drif> zgmf-x20a: try in console 'sudo find / -iname '*atl1*'
[12:56] <drif> zgmf-x20a: so we can locate if it's already there or do we need to download it from somewhere
[12:56] <titancompu> Is it possible to increase the swap size of my partition without reformatting?
[12:57] <zgmf-x20a> nothing happened
[12:57] <drif> titancompu: yes, you can either create additional swap partition and activate it - or create simple swap files on any partition
[12:57] <zgmf-x20a> drif: input the code, asked me for password and went straight back to prompt
[12:57] <drif> zgmf-x20a: ok, so there's no atl1 driver around
[12:57] <drif> zgmf-x20a: but you gave your password, right?
[12:57] <titancompu> How would I go aobut creating the simple swap files?
[12:57] <zgmf-x20a> drif:yup gave the password
[12:58] <drif> zgmf-x20a: ok, then find didn't find anything
[12:58] <zgmf-x20a> drif: and went striaght back to prompt
[12:58] <drif> zgmf-x20a: yup, understood that earlier
[12:58] <zgmf-x20a> drif: cool, so how do i install the driver??
[12:58] <zgmf-x20a> and where do i find something like that?
[12:58] <drif> zgmf-x20a: go to adep manager (if using kde) and search for atl
[12:59] <drif> adept
[12:59] <zgmf-x20a> i cant, remeber?  no internet connection on the laptop
[12:59] <zgmf-x20a> drif: i am currently on my desktop, fyi
[01:00] <drif> titancompu: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile (<-you can pick the location here) bs=1024k count=256 (that would create swap file size of 256MB)
[01:00] <drif> titancompu: you need to yet active it though
[01:01] <zgmf-x20a> drif: found it....  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=184921
[01:01] <drif> zgmf-x20a: which comp has network connection?
[01:01] <zgmf-x20a> drif: can you help me install it though?
[01:01] <drif> zgmf-x20a: good
[01:02] <drif> zgmf-x20a: we'll see what I can do about it
[01:02] <zgmf-x20a> drif: putting it on usb key and putting it on the laptop, one sec
[01:02] <drif> zgmf-x20a: is that source code?
[01:03] <intelikey> howto mount an nfs dir ?
[01:04] <drif> intelikey: mount 192.168.1.40:/mountdir/mountdir /mnt/mynfsdir (that's bare format, you can use options: see 'man mount')
[01:04] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ok, how do i install this file???
[01:04] <intelikey> drif thank you.     one other thing, does that have to be configured in fstab on the other box ?
[01:05] <drif> zgmf-x20a: copy it somewhere and extract with tar xvzf yourtarfile
[01:05] <drif> intelikey: nope, just exist on /etc/exports
[01:05] <drif> intelikey: on the server side
[01:06] <intelikey> k thanks.
[01:06] <drif> intelikey: remember to use exportfs -a after adding/modifying that file
[01:06] <drif> zgmf-x20a: after that cd to dir and 'sudo make install'
[01:07] <intelikey> drif ???  -bash: exportfs: command not found
[01:07] <zgmf-x20a> how do i cd to the home folder???
[01:07] <drif> intelikey: are you sure you have nfs-server installed then?
[01:08] <drif> intelikey: on which machine you ran exportfs then?
[01:08] <zgmf-x20a> sry man, never really install anything this way drif
[01:08] <drif> zgmf-x20a: cd /home/yourusername or cd ~
[01:09] <drif> zgmf-x20a: after that cd to the directory tar xvzf just created for you
[01:09] <intelikey> oh  installing     nfs-user-server     oops   ;/
[01:09] <drif> intelikey: hehe ;)
[01:09] <drif> intelikey: why not nfs-kernel-server?
[01:10] <intelikey> drif userspace is prefered in this particular applaction
[01:10] <zgmf-x20a> drif: that didnt work....  argh.... i need to pay someone to make me a program that converts tar files to simple installer files
[01:10] <drif> titancompu: still here - remember to swapon /yourswaplocation to active it
[01:11] <drif> zgmf-x20a: didn't work? be more decriptive
[01:11] <drif> intelikey: ok
[01:11] <intelikey> zgmf-x20a what app is it ?     you did search the repos didn't you ?
[01:11] <drif> zgmf-x20a: it's driver - and he's not able to access repos atm
[01:11] <drif> sorry that was for intelikey
[01:11] <intelikey> ok  just catching up\
[01:11] <drif> tab-habit accident :D
[01:12] <zgmf-x20a> drif: lol.  ok, so i actually doubleclicked the file, then pressed the extract button in ark.  it made a folder in my home folder.
[01:12] <drif> zgmf-x20a: but you still need to open up terminal window to compile it
[01:12] <zgmf-x20a> so then i typed cd /home/zgmf-x20a
[01:12] <zgmf-x20a> in terminal
[01:12] <drif> zgmf-x20a: yes, but you still need one cd
[01:12] <zgmf-x20a> and then typed sudo make install
[01:12] <zgmf-x20a> ......  one cd?
[01:12] -ronpaululz:#kubuntu- lol g, join ##ronpaul and stop the JEWISH MACHINE visit http://ronpaul.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #kubuntu SUCKS
[01:13] <hydrogen> lawl
[01:13] <drif> zgmf-x20a: it extracted the package on your home level?
[01:13] <hydrogen> that was exciting
[01:13] <hydrogen> hmm
[01:13] <drif> zgmf-x20a: usually it creates directory which has same name as the package - to keep things organized
[01:13] <hydrogen> when running gwenview I get a segfault
[01:13] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ermm i told it to extract there, well, it was the default extract location
[01:13] <zgmf-x20a> lol, yes it did do that
[01:14] <drif> zgmf-x20a: well did the sudo make install work?
[01:14] <zgmf-x20a> after i typed the sudo make install it said "make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop."
[01:15] <drif> zgmf-x20a: and you're 100% sure you don't have to enter one more directory level?
[01:15] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ummmmm no,....  lol
[01:15] <intelikey> zgmf-x20a extracting the content of a tar archive into your home dir will simply make a new subdir in your home with the content in there.   you will have to cd into the subdir to build the source
[01:16] <zgmf-x20a> yes, the theory i understand, i just dont know how to get there
[01:16] <drif> zgmf-x20a: just humour me and do 'cd atl1-2.0.7-linux.2.6.20'
[01:16] <drif> zgmf-x20a: and after that try 'sudo make install' again
[01:17] <intelikey> drif no configure needed ?
[01:17] <drif> zgmf-x20a: just humour me and do 'cd atl1-2.0.7-linux-2.6.20' (sorry first had typo)
[01:17] <drif> intelikey: nope
[01:17] <zgmf-x20a> it bashed it, ok one sec let me retype
[01:18] <drif> zgmf-x20a: you can also type cd atl1 (and press tab to complete rest)
[01:19] <intelikey> !tab | zgmf-x20a
[01:19] <ubotu> zgmf-x20a: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:19] <Angelus> can somone tell me how to set konqueror to open in home page
[01:20] <intelikey> and  ls   (that is lower case L S)  to list the content of any dir
[01:20] <drif> Angelus: as default?
[01:20] <Angelus> yeah
[01:20] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ummm.... ok, so i did that, then i did sudo make install, and it came up with a very long list of errors
[01:20] <Angelus> i want, when i open konqueror the homepage comes up
[01:20] <intelikey> Angelus set the default home page in the konq config
[01:20] <drif> Angelus: Settings->Configure Konqueror->Home URL:
[01:21] <Angelus> yeah i setted that drif
[01:21] <Angelus> but still
[01:21] <drif> Angelus: still?
[01:21] <Angelus> when i open konqueror it open in that Welcome to konqueror
[01:21] <intelikey> Angelus in konq's menu   configure it and set the home page as you like.      it works
[01:21] <Angelus> page
[01:21] <Angelus> :/
[01:21] <intelikey> home page != startup page
[01:22] <Angelus> no man
[01:22] <zgmf-x20a> drif: so i pressed cd, and am back to zgmf-x20a@zgmf-x20a-laptop:~$
[01:22] <Angelus> when konqueror starts
[01:22] <Angelus> that Welcome to konqueror page comes up
[01:22] <intelikey> yes man.  it's in the same settings.
[01:22] <intelikey> look again
[01:22] <drif> zgmf-x20a: pressed cd?
[01:23] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ptypeing cd doesnt bring me anywhere, just to the exact same prompt
[01:23] <intelikey> cd alone always takes you to your home dir
[01:23] <drif> zgmf-x20a: did I say to type _just_ cd? no.
[01:23] <zgmf-x20a> yah, thats where i am
[01:23] <zgmf-x20a> drif: lol.
[01:23] <drif> zgmf-x20a: I said cd atl1 (and press tab) _then_ enter
[01:24] <zgmf-x20a> yah i did that last time
[01:24] <zgmf-x20a> then at this point i typs sudo make install
[01:24] <drif> zgmf-x20a: what can you see with ls?
[01:24] <drif> zgmf-x20a: one line is enough info
[01:24] <intelikey> ummm use konq and enter the folder and use the "open a konsole here" command in the menu
[01:24] <zgmf-x20a> drif: , do you want me to type them all out?
[01:25] <zgmf-x20a> drif:
[01:25] <zgmf-x20a> ok
[01:25] <drif> zgmf-x20a: yes? could you say it
[01:26] <zgmf-x20a> the first liune says:  atl1_ethtool.c  atl1_hw.c  atl1_main.c  CHANGELOG  README
[01:26] <drif> zgmf-x20a: ok, you're in right directory now
[01:26] <drif> zgmf-x20a: 'sudo make install'
[01:26] <Angelus> drif: what i want to set is the startup page of konqueror
[01:26] <zgmf-x20a> drif: SAME THING AS LAST TIME, CRAZY LONG LIST OF ERRORS
[01:27] <zgmf-x20a> oops
[01:27] <zgmf-x20a> sry abt caps
[01:27] <rjune> anybody know where I could find termcap for fiesty?
[01:27] <xst> When I play videos with Kaffeine the image is completely garbled while the sound is OK. How can I fix this?
[01:28] <Biovore> wmv?
[01:28] <zgmf-x20a> xst: vlc media player, and your set
[01:28] <rjune> xst: do you have the w32 codec package instlled?
[01:28] <xst> rjune: Don't know
[01:28] <xst> rjune: How can I check it?
[01:28] <rjune> then you probably don't. you have to manually install it
[01:28] <xst> what is it called?
[01:28] <drif> zgmf-x20a: just in case 'sudo apt-get install fakeroot build-essential linux-kernel-devel'
[01:29] <zgmf-x20a> drif: apt get?  but i have no internet?  well lets try it and see
[01:29] <intelikey> :::  tty24 [root@~]  ls /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:29] <intelikey> ls: /var/cache/apt/archives/: Permission denied
[01:29] <drif> zgmf-x20a: sorry I keep forgetting
[01:29] <intelikey> ?
[01:29] <drif> zgmf-x20a: do you have cd?
[01:29] <drif> zgmf-x20a: it acts as an repository as well
[01:29] <drif> zgmf-x20a: installation cd
[01:30] <drif> intelikey: what are you doing? :)
[01:30] <intelikey> nfs mount there
[01:30] <xst> rjune: I already have installed the "w32codecs" package but the image is still garbled
[01:30] <Biovore> wmv
[01:30] <Biovore> ?
[01:30] <drif> intelikey: ehm?
[01:30] <zgmf-x20a> drif: yah that said couldnt find package fakeroot
[01:30] <rjune> xst: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/ <--- that should help
[01:30] <intelikey> how can root have permission denied   ???
[01:31] <drif> zgmf-x20a: ok, don't write that then
[01:31] <zgmf-x20a> drif: and yes, i have all of them, which should i use?  7.04 alt or desktop?
[01:31] <drif> zgmf-x20a: the one you installed from
[01:31] <zgmf-x20a> drif: that was the 6.10 desktop
[01:31] <rjune> xst: I don't remember all the details of it, but as I remember, when I ran into that problem it was either codec, or changing players
[01:31] <drif> zgmf-x20a: that then
[01:32] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ok, its in, now what??
[01:32] <drif> zgmf-x20a: apt-get line again..
[01:32] <drif> zgmf-x20a: it didn't prompt for cd earlier?
[01:33] <zgmf-x20a> nope
[01:33] <drif> zgmf-x20a: strange..
[01:33] <drif> zgmf-x20a: does 'sudo grep -i cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list' output anything?
[01:36] <zgmf-x20a> drif: nope that last one didnt output anything.  also, the apt-get line said the exact same thing as last time
[01:36] <drif> zgmf-x20a: have you modified sources.list then?
[01:36] <zgmf-x20a> it said "E; couldnt find package fakeroot"
[01:37] <drif> zgmf-x20a: I did say don'
[01:37] <drif> zgmf-x20a: I did say don't write it (fakeroot) then
[01:37] <zgmf-x20a> drif: nope, i havetn modifed anything, it is a fresh install as of abot a few hours ago
[01:37] <drif> zgmf-x20a: fresh install should have those deb cdrom: lines as default..
[01:38] <drif> zgmf-x20a: atleast I've always had to remark those lines afterwards not to get prompts for cd all the time
[01:38] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ummm... i dont know what to tell you..  ary man, and i REALLY appreciate the help on this one
[01:39] <drif> zgmf-x20a: so try just 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[01:39] <drif> zgmf-x20a: probably same error :-\ we need to add those cd-repositories to sources.list next..
[01:39] <zgmf-x20a> yah, it was the same error
[01:40] <drif> zgmf-x20a: a sec
[01:40] <zgmf-x20a> drif: no problem
[01:40] <drif> zgmf-x20a: I'll have fire up my kitchen pc which I recall has 6.10 installed :D
[01:42] <zgmf-x20a> drif: lol, cool thanks man
[01:42] <drif> zgmf-x20a: do you know how to edit text files+
[01:43] <drif> zgmf-x20a: if you have kde there's Utilities->Kate
[01:43] <zgmf-x20a> drif: noooo, i dont man, ive never had to deal with these sorts of issues b4
[01:43] <intelikey> hmmm nfs is extreemly slow on a 1m/s lan
[01:43] <zgmf-x20a> ive worked with kate only once before
[01:44] <drif> zgmf-x20a: actually start it with pressing alt+f2 and then type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:44] <drif> zgmf-x20a: it prompts for password because we need root privileges to edit the file
[01:45] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ok, im there
[01:47] <drif> zgmf-x20a: ok, I'll give you the lines to add soon
[01:48] <zgmf-x20a> drif: awesome, sounds good
[01:48] <drif> zgmf-x20a: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted
[01:48] <drif> zgmf-x20a: add that line and save the file
[01:49] <drif> zgmf-x20a: then 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:49] <drif> zgmf-x20a: and keep the cd inserted
[01:51] <drif> zgmf-x20a: any progress?
[01:52] <drif> intelikey: 1MB/sec on 100 LAN?
[01:53] <intelikey> drif what 100 lan ?
[01:53] <drif> intelikey: speed..
[01:53] <intelikey> drif what 100 lan ?
[01:53] <drif> intelikey: could be gigabit as well
[01:53] <intelikey> could be 1m as well
[01:54] <dr_Willis> 1000000000000000000000000000gb. :)
[01:54] <intelikey> :)
[01:54] <dr_Willis> 10E+10 gb
[01:54] <intelikey> 10^40
[01:55] <drif> intelikey: could be..but I doubt that is any ethernet standard..
[01:58] <zgmf-x20a> drif: nope it didnt work, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[01:58] <zgmf-x20a> drif: sry abt the wait there
[01:59] <phanatik> hallo
[02:00] <drif> zgmf-x20a: which line?
[02:00] <drif> zgmf-x20a: and what do you mean didn't work..
[02:01] <drif> zgmf-x20a: you need to say _what_ didn't work - especially after such pause in things
[02:02] <intelikey> i'm applying unionfs to merger more than one mount onto /var/cache/apt/archives    is there anything i should consider in this process ?
[02:04] <zgmf-x20a> drif: fair enough.  ok, this is what i did, i added the line #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted" at the end of the list in kate
[02:05] <zgmf-x20a> drif: then i went to console and typed "sudo apt-get update"
[02:05] <drif> zgmf-x20a: what #deb????
[02:05] <zgmf-x20a> no # sign?????
[02:05] <drif> zgmf-x20a: 02:47.32 < drif> zgmf-x20a: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted
[02:06] <drif> of course no
[02:06] <drif> I'm wondering where you get that from..
[02:06] <zgmf-x20a> drif: sry, i saw all the other debs had the # sign in front
[02:06] <drif> zgmf-x20a: don't improvise ;)
[02:06] <zgmf-x20a> drif: lol, sorry
[02:08] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ok, typed it in this time, and it is a long list of errors.
[02:09] <drif> zgmf-x20a: just for future reference - _usually_ # in front of lines make it void
[02:09] <zgmf-x20a> but at the bottom it sayas " please ust apt-cdrom to make this cd-rom recognized by apt.  apt-get update cannot be used to add new cd-roms
[02:09] <zgmf-x20a> drif: oooo really, just like html?
[02:09] <zgmf-x20a> ic ic
[02:09] <drif> zgmf-x20a: 'sudo apt-cdrom add'
[02:11] <zgmf-x20a> drif: ok, it mounted the cd rom
[02:11] <drif> zgmf-x20a: now you can add that # in front of our previous deb cdrom: line
[02:11] <zgmf-x20a> drif: then at the end unmounted the cdrom
[02:12] <Pupeno> any ideas how to make a make (as in Makefile) rule where the output doesn't have an extension?
[02:12] <drif> zgmf-x20a: well, yes - but more like in c/c++ and other similar programming languages - html doesn't recognize # as remark/comment chracter
[02:12] <zgmf-x20a> drif: problem.  ok, so i clicked on the kate window which is still open, and it says the file has be modified by another program, what should i do????
[02:13] <drif> zgmf-x20a: close it and 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' again
[02:13] <zgmf-x20a> drif: actually, when i mounted the cd in terminal, it says that it wrote a new sources list
[02:13] <drif> zgmf-x20a: ok, then we'll try skipping it
[02:14] <drif> zgmf-x20a: do just 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:14] <drif> but if you get errors we need to edit /etc/apt/source.list to get rid of'em
[02:14] <UnluckyMike> I switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, when I set up my nvidia card I used "nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite --render-accel --allow-glx-with-composite --depth=24" for some reason kdm acts wierd and the background is really big and scrolls around. Any ideas??
[02:14] <drif> sources.list I mean
[02:16] <zgmf-x20a> drif: it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded again
[02:16] <Arwen> w00t, fortune command :-)
[02:16] <Arwen> it, in of itself, is enough reason to use Linux :-)
[02:17] <drif> UnluckyMike: you need to edit Virtual directive on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:17] <drif> UnluckyMike: it's set larger than your current resolution
[02:18] <UnluckyMike> drif: thanks
[02:18] <dr_Willis> kubuntu and ubuntu should be able ot use the identical xorg.conf file.  on the same box. ;)   Sounds like your screen res is set wrongly however.
[02:19] <drif> zgmf-x20a: try installing those fakeroot and build-essential
[02:19] <UnluckyMike> its wierd because I use the same settings for both
[02:19] <dr_Willis> i always kepe backups of my working xorg.conf for systems :) so i can compare the different ones that disrtos make.
[02:19] <drif> dr_Willis: good practice, I do that also
[02:20] <UnluckyMike> Ive never had a problem with xorg, but I have a memory stick packed full of other config files
[02:20] <dr_Willis> its nice that many disrtos now get my widescreen correct.. but sad that not ALL of them do so.
[02:20] <dr_Willis> xorg config files have been getting simpiler as time goes on it seems. :)
[02:21] <dr_Willis> i rember the old huge xf86 config files
[02:21] <drif> zgmf-x20a: what line are you executing btw?
[02:21] <zgmf-x20a> drif: cool i will try that.  unfrotuantely i ahve to get my ass in gear here and get ready for a dinner i have to attend.  thank you again SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much for your help in this,  im going to keep plugging away at it tonigt when i get back and tomorrow until i can get it fixed.
[02:21] <drif> zgmf-x20a: because you never mention those..just 'didn't work' or other vague information..
[02:21] <UnluckyMike> in which order does xorg read first from the conf file?
[02:21] <drif> zgmf-x20a: no offense though ;)
[02:21] <zgmf-x20a> drif:well tonight i wont be able too, but i have saved the convo and will follow it thru tonight / tomorrow
[02:22] <dr_Willis> UnluckyMike,  could check the 'startx' script. It may give that info. :)  i think its xorg.conf, then the older one. then an olderone-4 or similer.
[02:22] <zgmf-x20a> drif: lol, none taken at all, i know i need to be more descriptive with that stuff
[02:22] <drif> zgmf-x20a: you do that :) remember to 'sudo apt-get update' - from those output lines you pasted me it seems you tried 'sudo apt-get install'-line instead
[02:23] <drif> zgmf-x20a: last lines should be like Fetched XX in Xs (speed)
[02:23] <drif> zgmf-x20a: after update
[02:24] <zgmf-x20a> drif: yes ive seen that b4 using the terminal.  ok i will try that out tomorrow and hopefully get this bad boy up to speed.  the thing is im going to japan in like a month and NEED to get the laptop ready for departure!!!
[02:24] <zgmf-x20a> drif: well anyways, gotta get moving here.  take care and thanks for everything once again
[02:24] <zgmf-x20a> :)
[02:25] <zgmf-x20a> have a good one, ttyl
[02:25] <drif> zgmf-x20a: laters, and you're welcome
[02:27] <UnluckyMike> thanks dr_Willis, everything seems to be in order now
[02:29] <J-Wreck> does KDE have an equivalent to GNOME's session-manager?
[02:29] <drif> UnluckyMike: was it something else than Virtual directive+?
[02:30] <UnluckyMike> xorg.conf had the default resolution set higher than it should
[02:30] <drif> UnluckyMike: wouldn't that affect monitor?
[02:31] <dr_Willis> mine was set lower then it should. :)
[02:31] <UnluckyMike> drif it just made my monitor scroll
[02:31] <drif> UnluckyMike: so you didn't change Virtual at all?
[02:32] <UnluckyMike> yeah it was virtual
[02:32] <UnluckyMike> it was set to 1920 1200 instead of 1440 900
[02:32] <drif> UnluckyMike: just wondering what I said wrong then in the first place :D
[02:33] <UnluckyMike> i was kind of out of it, watching midgets fight with cops on tv...
[02:34] <drif> UnluckyMike: well, just in future reference - respect the help..
[02:34] <drif> UnluckyMike: none of us get paid here :D
[02:35] <jordi_> where are the deb files allocated?
[02:35] <jordi_> those one downloaded by apt
[02:36] <drif> jordi_: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:36] <jordi_> ok Thanks!
[02:43] <dr_Willis> Gotta love downlaoding a game at 22k/s...  only 720:23 remaining! :)
[02:43] <dr_Willis> thats what.. 10 hrs.. :) heh
[02:43] <drif> dr_Willis: well, if that is consistent speed it's not bad after all..
[02:44] <hydrogen> thats nothing
[02:44] <hydrogen> opera told me that I had 1223 days left on a download
[02:44] <drif> hydrogen: did you go on with it? ;)
[02:44] <dr_Willis> drif,  heh.. gotta love 'beta testing' that forces you do use their update software
[02:44] <hydrogen> of course!
[02:45] <hydrogen> i'm down to 22 hours
[02:46] <drif> dr_Willis: which game is that?
[02:52] <dr_Willis> drif,  tabula rasa beta
[02:53] <dr_Willis> Bought the preorder. and it dident have  serial #.. i should of made it start downloading then. :) had to take it back to the store to get a different boxed set
[02:54] <drif> dr_Willis: ah, that new garriot production
[02:55] <drif> dr_Willis: I wonder how long it will take until someone redirects us to -offtopic ;)
[02:58] <dr_Willis> given that we are averaging about 4 min between replies.. and no one else is talking.....
[02:58] <CPrompt^> anyone use Pandora or Last.FM?
[03:10] <megalomaniac> anyone able to answer why i can connect to this server but not others?
[03:11] <underdog5004> megalomaniac, your dns server is down?
[03:11] <Theresa> intelikey: well, i messed around last night and didn't get much further. the purge of all foomatic stuff didn't change anything.  Other ideas?
[03:12] <megalomaniac> nope...thats not it....
[03:13] <megalomaniac> the only way i was able to previously connect to irc server was thru a hotlink in msn chat which i bookmarked in konversation
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[03:14] <hydrogen> you are boring.
[03:14] <drif> Bearcat: what's the prob then?
[03:14] <aguitel> 
[03:14] <Bearcat> drif: i'l give you the short story, them more details as you ask. (thanks)
[03:15] <drif> Bearcat: ok
[03:16] <Bearcat> drif: i'm setting up linux for a friend. Thier HP C3180 scans just fine with my laptop and the latest live cd.  On thier machine which started as a 6.06 version the scanner can not be found. sane-find-scanner finds it, but scaninmage -L and kooka don't.
[03:17] <Bearcat> their machine is upto date.  I have examined udev, sane and compared them to my machine and havent found the differnece. I have --purged all foomatic files too
[03:17] <Bearcat> i have to get this back to them and embarrassed after persuading them to go with linux over XP
[03:18] <intelikey> Bearcat ummm copy your configs to their box ?    or the configs from the live CD  ?
[03:19] <Bearcat> intelikey: i've done some of that
[03:19] <Bearcat> i've done that with udev, and sane. Any more to look at/
[03:19] <Bearcat> ?
[03:20] <intelikey>  /var/lib/sane* ?   <shrugs>
[03:20] <drif> Bearcat: so 6.06 livecd finds scanner and hdd installed doesn't?
[03:21] <intelikey> drif i thimk it is'nt 6.6
[03:22] <Bearcat> drif: yeah, so it *has* to be a config issue.
[03:22] <Bearcat> intelikey: you know, i haddn't even though tof /var stuff *face paws*
[03:22] <drif> Bearcat: why not newer version on hdd?
[03:22] <Bearcat> drif: both their pc and mine are now the same version. I'm guessing it's config files left over from 6.06
[03:24] <intelikey> Bearcat and as i said yestergo  if you upgrade 6.6 you can't then config/setup the scanner   has to be setup before the update.   so the live CD "should work" and the updated installed "not work"     aren't bugs fun.
[03:24] <drif> intelikey: what's 6.6?
[03:24] <intelikey> !lts
[03:24] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:24] <drif> intelikey: I thought it's 6.06..
[03:25] <intelikey> it is.   6.6 == 6.06 == 06.06 == 2006.06
[03:25] <intelikey> year dot month code
[03:25] <drif> intelikey: I beg to differ :D what's 6.10 then? older?
[03:25] <intelikey> year dot month code
[03:25] <drif> ah, ok
[03:26] <drif> I'm still too fixated with usual version naming scheme
[03:26] <intelikey> "differ all you want, just don't get between me and the blood wine"
[03:30] <Bearcat> intelikey: *nods*  alright i'l copy all config files over that i can find that i think might be remotely pertainant
[03:30] <drif> Bearcat: have you tried using scanimage -d straight from results sane-find-scanner reports?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIFCV2spKtg <-- This is just plain awesome
[03:49] <intelikey> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:49] <intelikey> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages
[03:49] <intelikey>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:51] <drif> intelikey: hm?
[03:52] <Bearcat> drif: here. sorry bouncing from pc tp pc
[03:52] <Bearcat> drif: no i haven't
[03:53] <drif> Bearcat: I'd suggest that
[03:54] <Bearcat> drif: wht is the '-d' looking for? A device in /dev?
[03:54] <drif> nice, katapult bugged out and practically killed my GUI-interface..keyboard not reacting and mouse can't press all buttons
[03:54] <drif> Bearcat: yup, dev
[03:54] <drif> Bearcat: which sane-find-scanner reports
[03:55] <Bearcat> drif: sane-find-scanner tells me "found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP] , product=0x5611 [Photosmart C3100 series] ) at libusb:005:005"  What am i looking for in dev?
[03:56] <intelikey> heh...  Running 'tzconfig' to set this system's timezone.
[03:56] <intelikey> Your current time zone is set to /dev/null
[03:56] <intelikey> Do you want to change that? [n] :
[03:56] <drif> Bearcat: anything more with -v?
[03:56] <Bearcat> intelikey: ohh! you are a "timeless" classic
[03:56] <drif> Bearcat: or even -v -v
[03:57] <drif> intelikey: I'm just wondering some of those pastings you make..asking for something or just amuse us?
[03:58] <intelikey> amusing  mostly
[03:59] <drif> intelikey: -offtopic? ;)
[03:59] <intelikey> certenly the last one wasn't asking for any help
[03:59] <drif> intelikey: I know, but that previous one...gzip stdin etc.
[03:59] <Bearcat> drif: it looks at /dev/usbscanner[0-15]  and /dev/usb/scanner[0-15] . It says "failed to open (invalid argument)" for all of them.
[03:59] <intelikey> yeah i don't think that's on my box    so anyone to whom it may concern might want to look into that
[04:00] <drif> intelikey: look into what? you never include anything concrete.. like question or description what you're upto there..
[04:00] <intelikey> drif if the output wasn't obvious   that was from an apt-get update   so the updated package database is the error genorator
[04:01] <Bearcat> drif: so, this may be a udev prob then.
[04:01] <drif> Bearcat: check sane-usb
[04:01] <intelikey> someone forgot to gzip the database
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> or bz2'd it by mistake :P
[04:02] <drif> intelikey: would it kill to include those remarks as well?
[04:02] <drif> :D
[04:02] <intelikey> hitmanWilly no that would have failed altogather.
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> yeah, probably, not a major expert on apt here :)
[04:02] <Bearcat> drif: i've looked through that and created a custom config file in /etc/sane.d
[04:03] <drif> Bearcat: also, have you compared lsmod outputs on both machine?
[04:03] <Bearcat> drif: ahh, good idea
[04:04] <Bearcat> drif: well, if sane-find-scanner finds the scanner what else is there to do?
[04:04] <intelikey> drif sorry,  thought that was obvious by the text i posted.    i'll try to remember to specify at least the command the i'm posting about in the future
[04:04] <intelikey> errrr well i did post it in the future didn't i ???
[04:05] <drif> Bearcat: it's just usb device which got recognized.. not necessarily having driver loaded?
[04:05] <intelikey>  me grammer is like me spelling    them is both bad
[04:05] <Bearcat> drif: ahh. Thanks
[04:10] <drif> flaccid: how many plums of sugar?
[04:10] <intelikey> is genii here ?
[04:11] <flaccid> 0.5
[04:12] <intelikey> is that more or less than 1/2 ???
[04:12] <flaccid> lol im on windows and i just replaced the de facto non free apps with free open source ones and shabam the computer has cpu/resources to use heh
[04:13] <drif> ..and after those words, suddenly 'word' is no longer among us
[04:13] <flaccid> w3rd!
[04:16] <soccermike1337> I have an UBUNTU related question, and since no one in #ubuntu will answer, ive come here, to the closest relative (to my knowledge)
[04:16] <flaccid> please ask
[04:16] <soccermike1337> is it normal to take over 10 minutes for the ubuntu installer to load?
[04:16] <flaccid> depends on the computers spec. on older systems thats possible
[04:16] <Biovore> well it does take a bit..  dependingoln your computer..
[04:16] <soccermike1337> :-/
[04:17] <drif> soccermike1337: not really
[04:17] <soccermike1337> 1.83 GHz core 2 duo
[04:17] <soccermike1337> 2 gigs ram
[04:17] <drif> soccermike1337: nope
[04:17] <Biovore> yeah.. shouldn't
[04:17] <soccermike1337> weird
[04:17] <flaccid> your bottleneck is probably something else
[04:17] <soccermike1337> bottleneck?
[04:17] <drif> is it clearly still doing something?
[04:17] <Biovore> soccermike1337: Try the alternate installer if your having problems..
[04:17] <soccermike1337> not that i can tell
[04:17] <soccermike1337> alternate?
[04:17] <drif> soccermike1337: =hindering your system down
[04:17] <flaccid> the problem thats causing the slowness
[04:17] <Arwen> in computers, a bottleneck is the weak part in a system that's inhibiting the rest of the system
[04:17] <flaccid> !alternate
[04:17] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:17] <soccermike1337> oh
[04:17] <Arwen> e.g. your CPU being too slow to feed your video card data
[04:18] <soccermike1337> :-/
[04:18] <Arwen> e.g. your hard drive being so slow your 500000MHz RAM is being wasted
[04:18] <soccermike1337> oh
[04:18] <soccermike1337> thats probably it
[04:18] <soccermike1337> my hd is only 5400 rpm
[04:18] <soccermike1337> im gonna check the cd real quick for defects
[04:18] <flaccid> arnt we talking about the optical drive loading here, not hard disk?
[04:19] <Biovore> soccermike1337: http://ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/feisty/  <-- alternate installer at bottom.. It basicly the debian text based installer..  Works quicker.. Its what I use..
[04:19] <soccermike1337> yeah
[04:19] <drif> that's quite unusual rpm these days - but I dont believe that's the prob
[04:19] <soccermike1337> ok... well if i use the text installer, is it harder to resize my windows partition?
[04:19] <Biovore> 5400 rpm.. probably on a laptop then..
[04:19] <drif> soccermike1337: of course if it's laptop then it's very normal
[04:19] <soccermike1337> yes i am
[04:19] <drif> Biovore: yeah
[04:20] <flaccid> the problem is more likely the optical drive or whats being loaded off the installer or it doesn't like a piece of hardware
[04:20] <soccermike1337> ok.. 10:19, pressed enter on Ubuntu graphics safe mode
[04:20] <Biovore> soccermike1337: well you can resize in the text installer. But the menus are a bit more confussing..
[04:20] <rekorder> hello
[04:20] <flaccid> alternate cd will probably have no problem if the problem is related to X
[04:20] <soccermike1337> :-/
[04:20] <soccermike1337> it seems ive had it running on this laptop before though
[04:21] <soccermike1337> because i had to fetch a driver for it
[04:23] <Bearcat> thanks all
[04:24] <drif> Bearcat: did it work?
[04:24] <Bearcat> be back later
[04:24] <Bearcat> drif: nope
[04:24] <sFEARs> what's the apt-get command to reinstall?
[04:24] <Bearcat> but now a scanimage -L takes a minute or two to complete
[04:24] <intelikey> apt-get install --reinstall blah
[04:24] <flaccid> sFEARs, sudo apt-get install --reinstall package
[04:24] <Bearcat> alright i'm gonna copy over udev and etc stuff
[04:25] <sFEARs> thank you
[04:25] <soccermike1337> :-/
[04:25] <Bearcat> adn hope i don't break this system
[04:25] <sFEARs> still having massive trouble by the way
[04:25] <soccermike1337> well i found ubuntu 5.10 cd
[04:25] <soccermike1337> how hard is it to upgrade to 7.x
[04:25] <sFEARs> i fix one thing & break two others in the process
[04:25] <flaccid> soccermike1337, much quicker to d/l the feisty alternate cd than upgrading from that over the net
[04:25] <drif> soccermike1337: not hard - although I personally discourge anything other than clean installs
[04:26] <soccermike1337> i dont think that its going to work though
[04:26] <soccermike1337> :-/
[04:26] <flaccid> soccermike1337, have you tried it?
[04:26] <soccermike1337> no
[04:26] <soccermike1337> but i know the 5.10 disc works
[04:26] <flaccid> there is no X on the altnernate cd
[04:26] <flaccid> have you ever tried an alternate cd on the system..
[04:26] <intelikey> upgrade 5.10 > 6.6 > 6.10 > 7.4  ?????  yuvh
[04:26] <intelikey> yuch too
[04:27] <soccermike1337> nope
[04:27] <soccermike1337> i guess ill try
[04:27] <Arwen> intelikey, try with a fresh install? :-P
[04:27] <intelikey> Arwen no not that string.   dialup precludes my testing that.
[04:28] <Arwen> heh'
[04:28] <intelikey> it would take until 9.10 releases to finish that upgrade process
[04:28] <soccermike1337> ill probably need someone to walk me through the text based one though
[04:28] <flaccid> dialup is not cool :p
[04:28] <Arwen> dialup on Linux is even worse :-\
[04:28] <Arwen> winmodems :-\
[04:28] <flaccid> i think there is a text-based install guide somewhere
[04:28] <intelikey> Arwen heh real modem here  :)
[04:29] <Arwen> heh
[04:29] <Arwen> mine used to have a really unstable intel driver. but then came the upgrade and voila, proprietary software didn't update.
[04:29] <intelikey> heh   yeah.
[04:32] <soccermike1337> -downloading alternate cd-
[04:34] <sFEARs> anyone know what the mp3 library is?
[04:34] <Biovore> !mp3
[04:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <sFEARs> <~~ trying to convert from windows
[04:35] <flaccid> !codecs
[04:35] <flaccid> ubotu?
[04:38] <intelikey> how to measure network traffic that isn't flowing through the box doing the checking   ?
[04:38] <Biovore> intelikey: you on a switch or a hub?
[04:38] <flaccid> doing the checking?
[04:39] <flaccid> !snmp
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <flaccid> !ethereal
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethereal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <Biovore> snmp only works if you got a switch that supports it..
[04:39] <intelikey> Biovore i can't tell ya   seeing that's i'm still network illiterate
[04:39] <drif> suggest some good wiki which is available from repo?
[04:39] <soccermike1337> !codecs|flaccid
[04:39] <soccermike1337> !codecs |flaccid
[04:39] <soccermike1337> lol
[04:39] <Biovore> well on a switch you can't see the other trafic.  but on a hub you can.. (hubs have colutsion lights on them)
[04:39] <ubotu> flaccid: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:40] <soccermike1337> there it is
[04:40] <soccermike1337> lol
[04:40] <Biovore> snmp -- simple network managment protocol..
[04:40] <flaccid> so you need a managed switch that supports snmp or a hub that you can sniff on
[04:40] <intelikey> Biovore well this [box]  has lights on it.  i can see that there is traffic passing through it...
[04:41] <intelikey> and to which cable
[04:41] <intelikey> but don't know how much traffic   nor what kind
[04:41] <Biovore> well in a switch box A sends traffic to the switch and the switch sends it to box B.. In a hub.. box A sends traffic to the hub.. the hub just sends it out to everyone connected to the hub..
[04:42] <intelikey> ah   i have a switch then
[04:42] <flaccid> you still get collision domains on a switch but. a switch is buffered a hub isn't
[04:43] <intelikey> but i think it's a small switch  only 9 eth ports and a  T socket
[04:43] <Biovore> linksys?
[04:43] <navetz> how do i get spellcheck with openoffice?
[04:43] <Biovore> netgear?
[04:43] <intelikey> no name
[04:43] <Biovore> navetz: F7 I think..
[04:44] <Biovore> intelikey: there are a couple of ways of doing it.. but its not easy..
[04:44] <flaccid> although i continuously get told that you can snmp an unmanaged switch
[04:44] <navetz> Biovore: it doesnt recognize my language or something, it wont find any errors and i know they are there
[04:45] <Biovore> not sure.. not a open office expert..
[04:46] <intelikey> LC_ALL=C command
[04:46] <intelikey> oh ignore that.
[04:48] <intelikey> it's a cute little bastard switch that a local school pitched in the dumpster,   works perfectly as far as i can tell.
[04:50] <NickPresta> navetz, this happened to me the first time I started usign OOo. Give me a minute to find the solution again...
[04:50] <navetz> NickPresta: man thanks alot! this has been killing me
[04:50] <NickPresta> navetz, may I PM you?
[04:51] <steven_> hi
[04:51] <NickPresta> !hi | steven_
[04:51] <ubotu> steven_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:51] <navetz> NickPresta: yes
[04:52] <navetz> NickPresta: it says im unregistered
[04:52] <NickPresta> !register | navetz
[04:52] <ubotu> navetz: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:52] <NickPresta> at any rate, I will create a Pastebin post for you
[04:53] <navetz> NickPresta: ok sweet thanks :)
[04:53] <miles> debian > ubuntu ?? [confirm/deny] 
[04:55] <NickPresta> navetz, http://pastebin.ca/670822
[04:56] <navetz> NickPresta Thanks !
[04:57] <Biovore> hmm I noticed that having the PS3 kubuntu disk in the drive here that it totaly hoses up the umount in the gui.. :-/
[04:57] <[Ramy] >  hi all, after making some testing for pidgin IRC built-in client, I was banned from #ubuntu, may because I was logging in and out , allot. how I can repair that ?
[04:58] <sFEARs> i have no idea Ramy
[04:59] <intelikey> [Ramy]  time.
[04:59] <intelikey> [Ramy]  unless you tic'd off an op  you should be debanned in a few minutes
[04:59] <NickPresta> and [Ramy]  #test for testing
[05:00] <NickPresta> or [Ramy]  just join any channel you want (ex. #RAMYSCHAN)
[05:02] <intelikey> modem resets are so much fun.....    NOT
[05:02] <[Ramy] > intelikey I have being banned for 48 hours :(
[05:03] <intelikey> [Ramy]  hmmm then try   #ubuntu-ops   see if you can resolve the issue
[05:03] <intelikey> [Ramy]  i was banned from there for 6 months
[05:04] <intelikey> told an op he was wrong about    sudo -i  and  sudo su -   having different end results...
[05:04] <intelikey> guess one should never correct an op
[05:05] <robotgeek> intelikey: hmm, really
[05:05] <intelikey> it's no joke.   though i may be famous or infamous for them
[05:07] <robotgeek> intelikey: what does sudo su - do specifically
[05:07] <intelikey> same as   sudo -i    specifficly
[05:08] <intelikey> it just runs   su -     as root
[05:09] <intelikey> su -     switches users (to root because no user was specified)  and the dash makes it a login shell
[05:10] <intelikey> when people ask howto blah  if someone answers with one way i like to provide some other was of reaching the same point (if there is one, and in linux there usually is)
[05:10] <intelikey> s/was/way/
[05:13] <intelikey> seems that  #ubuntu is not the place for that practice though.    and an un-named op said i was wrong that the second command wasn't what the fellow wanted,  i just pointed out that the two commands are equal in the end result   although   sudo -i  does use less resources and thus is faster   the differance is un-noticable even on a slow machine
[05:13] <intelikey>  </rant>
[05:14] <robotgeek> intelikey: okay. i dont go in there, it is too stressful :)
[05:15] <NoobSauce> does anyone know of any good video cameras that work out of the box in ubuntu/kubuntu? I don't care about quality, or anything - just out of the box support
[05:16] <fitoria_> can i install pidgin on kubuntu?
[05:16] <robotgeek> NoobSauce: you mean, like camcorders?
[05:16] <NoobSauce> robotgeek: yeah
[05:16] <robotgeek> NoobSauce: sorry, no idea. wiki might have something
[05:17] <robotgeek> !hardware
[05:17] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:17] <NoobSauce> I don't care about quality, I don't care about price - just something that works, and is preferably not in some bizarre shape/size
[05:17] <NoobSauce> I looked through that page, but I don't think there are video cameras listed, just regular cameras (that take pics)
[05:18] <robotgeek> NoobSauce: though, most of these cameras come with firewire, so it might just work?
[05:18] <NoobSauce> robotgeek: What's so special about firewire supported cameras? How is it different from usb in terms of hardware support?
[05:18] <gustavo_> oi
[05:18] <NoobSauce> robotgeek: I would think it makes no difference... unless I'm unaware of something... I don't have much experience with firewire stuffs
[05:19] <robotgeek> NoobSauce: nothing special, firewire was much faster than USB1
[05:19] <gustavo_> hi
[05:19] <fitoria_> can i instal pidgin on kubuntu?
[05:19] <robotgeek> fitoria_: sure you can.
[05:19] <robotgeek> fitoria_: you have tried kopete though, right?
[05:20] <fitoria_> yes
[05:20] <swiftnomad> hello. I have compiz fusion and I'm having a bit of trouble. apt-get It says libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig status: Upgradeable Request: No change but when I upgrade it.. it's still around and it says: Requested: BRAKE (upgrade) than when I press apply I get an error:
[05:21] <swiftnomad> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would brake packages.
[05:21] <swiftnomad> Press OK. and it's still around and compiz fusion dont let me use any themes or apply them. nothing.
[05:22] <swiftnomad> !fitoria_ yes you can install it but you need to compile it yourself.
[05:23] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: well, the commit would break packages, so it is not committing :)
[05:23] <robotgeek> err, upgrade
[05:24] <robotgeek> gustavo_: can we help you?
[05:24] <swiftnomad> I have upgraded it but and its still their.
[05:25] <swiftnomad> robotgeek.. I am requesting the upgrade and it say's it's still their when I try to upgrade again.
[05:25] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: it wont upgrade because upgrading will break your box. are you on feisty?
[05:26] <swiftnomad> yes. kubuntu.
[05:26] <swiftnomad> so I cannot get compiz-fusion on this?
[05:26] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: how did you try to install it?
[05:27] <swiftnomad> a tut I seen when I googled it. their was a perl install script.
[05:27] <swiftnomad> I needed to back location/of/shell.sh
[05:27] <swiftnomad> bash**
[05:27] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: can you give me a link?
[05:27] <swiftnomad> sure.
[05:30] <swiftnomad> I'm looking for it. =X
[05:30] <robotgeek> heh
[05:32] <swiftnomad> I cant find it. I been playing around trying to install this and get it running
[05:33] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: okay, please open up a shell
[05:33] <swiftnomad> open
[05:33] <swiftnomad> it's opened
[05:34] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[05:35] <swiftnomad> I'm their.
[05:35] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: see what files are present there, "ls -l"
[05:36] <swiftnomad> 0
[05:36] <swiftnomad> swiftnomad@swiftnomad-desktop:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ ls -l
[05:36] <swiftnomad> total 0
[05:36] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: okay. "cd .."
[05:36] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: paste the contents of sources.list to a !pastebin
[05:37] <swiftnomad> ok
[05:38] <swiftnomad> http://pastebin.ca/670854
[05:39] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: hmm, could you paste the contents of sources.list (kate sources.list) and paste (http://rafb.net/paste) it
[05:39] <swiftnomad> sure.
[05:41] <swiftnomad> http://rafb.net/p/6RFHjL80.html
[05:42] <flaccid> automatix *oh no*
[05:42] <swiftnomad> google earth. =)
[05:42] <swiftnomad> =P
[05:42] <flaccid> whats your problem sorry
[05:43] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: which packages are not getting upgraded?
[05:43] <swiftnomad> I have compiz fusion and I'm having a bit of trouble. apt-get It says libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig status: Upgradeable Request: No change but when I upgrade it.. it's still around and it says: Requested: BRAKE (upgrade) than when I press apply I get an error:
[05:43] <swiftnomad> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would brake packages.
[05:43] <swiftnomad>  Press OK. and it's still around and compiz fusion dont let me use any themes or apply them. nothing.
[05:43] <flaccid> re-generate your sources.list or remove all the extra repos
[05:43] <swiftnomad> libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[05:44] <flaccid> !libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[05:44] <flaccid> !info libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[05:44] <ubotu> Package libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:44] <swiftnomad> I dont know how to do that.
[05:44] <robotgeek> isn't there a channel for effects?
[05:44] <swiftnomad> I'm not to sure.
[05:44] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: apt-cache show libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[05:44] <flaccid> !sourc-o-matic | swiftnomad
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourc-o-matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <flaccid> !source-o-matic | swiftnomad
[05:44] <ubotu> swiftnomad: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:45] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: uggh, i meant apt-cache policy libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[05:45] <intelikey> what does the degree sign look like ?
[05:46] <flaccid> !offtopic
[05:46] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:46] <flaccid> :p
[05:46] <intelikey> what does the degree sign look like ?    anyone ?     or what key combo to generate it ?
[05:46] <swiftnomad> Here is what your asking for geekrobot
[05:46] <swiftnomad> http://rafb.net/p/kR2ziP82.html
[05:46] <flaccid> google.com ?
[05:47] <robotgeek> intelikey: it looks like a small 'o' superscripted
[05:47] <intelikey> yeah that's it.  but you didn't show me...
[05:47] <intelikey> i just need to copy and paste it..
[05:47] <flaccid> err google
[05:48] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: thanks
[05:48] <swiftnomad> mhm yeah I'm in Kubuntu
[05:48] <flaccid> sweet
[05:48] <swiftnomad> I can still use this Ubuntu sources.list generator and not mess anything up?
[05:49] <flaccid> swiftnomad, i would re-generate, then add the repos you require for that package only
[05:49] <flaccid> ie. no automatix etc.
[05:49] <robotgeek> intelikey: 
[05:49] <flaccid> then let us know your new error if you get one
[05:49] <swiftnomad> why no automatix ??
[05:50] <flaccid> !automatix
[05:50] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:50] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: if you remove the ppa repository, i think it might work.
[05:50] <swiftnomad> how do I remove it?
[05:50] <flaccid> question is did you want the tuxfamily or ppa package
[05:51] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: just add a # in front of those lines, then try again
[05:51] <flaccid> after you save do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:51] <swiftnomad> ok.
[05:52] <swiftnomad> any spaces?
[05:52] <flaccid> negative
[05:52] <flaccid> spaces are allowed in front of the # which is a comment
[05:52] <swiftnomad> so in the URI but it wont let me press OK
[05:53] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: that is becuase you are not editing it as root, (which is a good thing)
[05:53] <flaccid> what wont let you press ok? you need to use sudo or kdesu to be able to edit and save the file
[05:53] <swiftnomad> ok
[05:53] <robotgeek> it might be simpler to manage repositories from adept
[05:55] <swiftnomad> yeah in Software Sources I cannot edit it with the # infront of URI
[05:55] <voradams> anyone able to help with a knetworkmanager wpa question?
[05:55] <swiftnomad> and I wouldnt know how to edit it from adept
[05:55] <flaccid> a # makes that line a comment ie. it doesn't get included
[05:56] <flaccid> so you want to comment out ppa or tuxfamily repos or manage via kdesu adept
[05:56] <flaccid> !repos | swiftnomad
[05:56] <ubotu> swiftnomad: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:56] <flaccid> !adept
[05:56] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:57] <flaccid> nice little howto^
[05:58] <swiftnomad> still not letting me edit it. and in shell I'm root.
[05:59] <swiftnomad> let me just delete it.
[05:59] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: delete what?
[05:59] <swiftnomad> ppa.dogfood
[06:00] <voradams> The belkin usb wireless adapter works out of the box on kubuntu 7.04, device shows up under knetworkmanager, and can see my router. however, when i try to pass my credentials to the roter, it seems to bomb out. anyone know wpa or knetworkmanager enough to help as i got no love from the main ubuntu forum
[06:00] <robotgeek> swiftnomad: okay
[06:01] <flaccid> swiftnomad, what is the actual error and editing with which editor?
[06:01] <robotgeek> voradams: what chipset is it using, (lsusb -v) & (lsmod)
[06:03] <voradams> idproduct 0x0102, rt73 chipet
[06:03] <swiftnomad> what do you mean? I dont get no error. I just cannot apply themes  and when I run ccsm Its the settings manager and its just like 4 menus and I cant do anything.
[06:04] <flaccid> i thought we are trying to fix repos swiftnomad
[06:04] <flaccid> what are you trying to edit sources.list with
[06:04] <swiftnomad> well- ok. that. It says:
[06:04] <voradams> robotgeek: it sees the router fine, iwconfig shows all the right values
[06:04] <swiftnomad> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would brake packages.
[06:05] <flaccid> that was from apt-get update
[06:05] <swiftnomad> I didn't try. geekrobot was asking to see it.
[06:05] <flaccid> have a look at the output and see which repos had problems
[06:05] <swiftnomad> I dont know how.
[06:05] <flaccid> err
[06:05] <swiftnomad> n00b. I know.
[06:05] <robotgeek> voradams: wpa has not worked on my laptop, sorry
[06:06] <flaccid> swiftnomad, so which extra repos do you actually need in sources.list
[06:06] <voradams> afraid of that, the webpage says security has not been tested....
[06:07] <swiftnomad> none really. I enjoy the automatrix because I use google earth alot... and I just want a better theme than the one I have now..
[06:07] <flaccid> theme for what?
[06:08] <flaccid> you don't use automatix for google earth..
[06:08] <flaccid> !googleearth
[06:08] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[06:08] <swiftnomad> kde. with compiz-fusion you can use emerald
[06:08] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <flaccid> !compiz
[06:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:09] <swiftnomad> ok thanks.
[06:11] <flaccid> swiftnomad, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion its ppa
[06:11] <swiftnomad> yeah?
[06:11] <hydrogen> how do I find out what package a file belongs to
[06:11] <swiftnomad> Ok. Ill add that.
[06:11] <flaccid> so you need to comment out the tuxfamily entries
[06:12] <flaccid> that is what is conflicting
[06:12] <hydrogen> or better yet
[06:12] <hydrogen> anyone seen
[06:12] <hydrogen> ldconfig: /usr/lib/libexslt.so.0.8.13 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.
[06:14] <flaccid> hydrogen, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libs/libxslt1.1
[06:15] <flaccid> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=libxslt1.1&version=feisty&arch=i386
[06:15] <hydrogen> err
[06:17] <flaccid> !info libxslt1.1
[06:17] <ubotu> libxslt1.1: XSLT processing library - runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.20-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 212 kB, installed size 448 kB
[06:17] <hydrogen> no
[06:17] <hydrogen> libexslt
[06:17] <hydrogen> not libxslt
[06:17] <hydrogen> oh
[06:17] <hydrogen> same package
[06:17] <hydrogen> it turns out
[06:17] <flaccid> did you look at the package list...
[06:17] <flaccid> indeed
[06:18] <hydrogen> ahh
[06:18] <hydrogen> this isn't going to end well
[06:18] <flaccid> dang
[06:18] <hydrogen> i decided to remove it and reinstlal
[06:19] <hydrogen> to try and fix
[06:19] <hydrogen> and apparently half of my system depends on it
[06:19] <hydrogen> so adept is being nice and removing half of my system
[06:19] <flaccid> you could do a force purge then install it perhaps
[06:19] <flaccid> ah need cli for this kind of thing iirc
[06:19] <jombee> does anyone know anything about php?
[06:19] <flaccid> jombee, yes
[06:19] <hydrogen> and it doesn't give me a way to cancel
[06:19] <flaccid> hydrogen, kill it
[06:20] <hydrogen> its most of the way done.. I'll let it finish and then reinstall
[06:20] <hydrogen> its mostly kde that its removing
[06:20] <flaccid> ok then
[06:20] <hydrogen> well
[06:20] <hydrogen> and python
[06:20] <hydrogen> and adept
[06:20] <hydrogen> and meh
[06:21] <bzrad> Hi guys.  I mount /home via hda3... and i recently copied the directory, removed partition.. and moved my files back on.  I went to login, and it said something about dchopserver, and reading a network list.. and i chown'd my home directory.. and now I try to login, and it just kicks me right back to login screen w/out errors.. any idea?
[06:21] <flaccid> bzrad, perhaps try sudo chown `whoami` ~/home/`whoami`
[06:22] <flaccid> chown -R `whoami` ~/home/`whoami`
[06:22] <hydrogen> ehh
[06:22] <hydrogen> ~/home is going to do weird things :)
[06:22] <hydrogen> like not work
[06:22] <flaccid> yeah
[06:22] <flaccid> good point
[06:22] <drif> :D
[06:22] <bzrad> flaccid I already did chown -R wastedfluid *
[06:22] <bzrad> in my home directory.. wastedfluid is my username.
[06:22] <intelikey> bzrad   df -h     and remember 5% reserver by default
[06:23] <bzrad> hold on, i'll run that now.
[06:23] <drif> bzrad: but not the directory itself?
[06:23] <drif> bzrad: quite crucial step..
[06:23] <flaccid> bzrad, failing that goto a tty kill kdm then run startx and see problem
[06:23] <bzrad> ok, i'll do a console login.. hold on
[06:24] <yurimxpxman> what's the command to add a line to a file? I remember it had echo in it..
[06:24] <intelikey> #offtopic http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39176
[06:24] <intelikey> echo "blah" >> file.name
[06:25] <bzrad> flaccid;  I went into console login.. logged in, typed "kill $(pgrep kdm) - and now i'm just at an empty s creen w/ one line flashing.. nothing happening.
[06:25] <intelikey> yurimxpxman if it's system file and you are not root    echo "blah" | sudo tee -a file.name
[06:25] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: btw, that script doesn't work for me
[06:25] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: thanks!
[06:26] <intelikey> yurimxpxman no ?  hmmm
[06:26] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: (by script, I mean the CPU temp one)
[06:26] <bzrad> drif; i know I own directory permissions because of ls -l
[06:27] <intelikey> yurimxpxman yes.  sorry a space in the wrong place...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39177
[06:27] <bzrad> i think i'm just going to do another fresh install since this is obviously not working.
[06:27] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: yeah, I found it
[06:27] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: but it still doesn't work
[06:27] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: gives me the unknown character symbol in konsole
[06:27] <bzrad> flaccid;  now I can't even console login.. it returns me to the login screen.
[06:28] <bzrad> ok, fresh install time.. no big loss.  thanks anyways
[06:28] <intelikey> it's a "console" script  if you use unicode konsole it should work
[06:29] <intelikey> bzrad
[06:29] <drif> he's gone
[06:29] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: btw, what's wrong with `cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature` ? :-)
[06:29] <intelikey> well.   i would have told him that he just proved it was ownership/permissions
[06:29] <intelikey> drif yeah i know.
[06:30] <intelikey> yurimxpxman the format.  it's ugly.
[06:30] <drif> intelikey: I had same hunch
[06:30] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: what format does yours show?
[06:30] <drif> intelikey: nowadays people just don't like the battle anymore ;)
[06:30] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~]  ./temp
[06:30] <intelikey> 50C
[06:31] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: ah, I see
[06:31] <drif> btw, what could be wrong when I have nothing at thermal_zone on this machine?
[06:31] <intelikey> drif yeah.   M$ slothfulness has really set in.
[06:32] <intelikey> drif module not inserted for the sensors
[06:32] <drif> intelikey: few days ago I accidentaly misused usermod and revoked my admin rights :D had only kdesu session of adapt manager around..
[06:33] <drif> intelikey: so, logical solution would have been reboot and editing etc files manually..
[06:33] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: I'm using utf8 and it doesn't work..
[06:33] <drif> intelikey: but no :D I just fired up another pc and set up repository and made 'fake' .deb to obtain my rights back :D
[06:34] <intelikey> drif yeah.  booting to single user mode would have given you a root shell  from which you could have added your root jr. account to the adm/admin groups.
[06:35] <flaccid> dang bzrad just had to go back to the tty again and run startx ah well
[06:35] <drif> intelikey: but using what password?-o
[06:35] <yurimxpxman> drif: it doesn't require a password
[06:35] <intelikey> drif none
[06:35] <drif> intelikey: and besides I had no real chance to reboot the machine at that moment - had software running
[06:36] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: do you want a screenshot of this bug in your script?
[06:36] <drif> intelikey: so it was more convenient way to me
[06:36] <intelikey> yurimxpxman ok i'll concent that konsole is borked as far as ascii chars from printf ...  you could drop the `printf ...`  section
[06:37] <intelikey> yurimxpxman it's not a "bug in my script"   maybe a bug in konsole...
[06:37] <intelikey> drif what ever works    is always the "right way"
[06:37] <drif> intelikey: yup
[06:38] <flaccid> whatever works is the wrong way
[06:38] <drif> flaccid: based on what?
[06:38] <flaccid> windows works...
[06:38] <flaccid> need i say more
[06:38] <intelikey> flaccid still has a sore knee
[06:38] <intelikey> ...  :)
[06:38] <drif> hehe
[06:38] <flaccid> no you have a sore foot coz i have metal knees
[06:39] <flaccid> :p
[06:39] <intelikey> oh    my bad...
[06:39] <intelikey> :)
[06:39] <intelikey> now who's off topic   btw
[06:39] <drif> flaccid: spending a lot of your time on your knees? :D evolution surely has its ways
[06:40] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: doesn't work in xterm, either.
[06:40] <intelikey> ok.  i'll fire up a gui and look at it...      kids...
[06:41] <flaccid> why am i always the easy target
[06:41] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: doesn't work in my virtual terminal, either :P
[06:41] <intelikey> yurimxpxman what char set you using ?
[06:42] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: utf8
[06:42] <intelikey> unicode does not produce the correct ascii  on that.   you are right about that.  but no errors.
[06:43] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: I switched to greek and it worked :P But it still doesn't show my temp. Your script isn't portable :(
[06:43] <intelikey> pastebin it
[06:43] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: what does `cat cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature` give you?
[06:44] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: mine says: temperature:             40 C
[06:44] <intelikey> yeah i'm running a little hoter  50
[06:44] <intelikey> i still think it's not "my" script   i think you edited it.
[06:45] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39178
[06:45] <intelikey> is that what you have ^ ?
[06:45] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35089/
[06:45] <intelikey> no   see.
[06:46] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: I have no idea what your paste is
[06:47] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39179
[06:47] <intelikey> that  ???
[06:47] <intelikey> oh  heh different   sorry.
[06:47] <Zaelore> hello
[06:47] <Zaelore> can anyone help me with something?
[06:47] <intelikey> maybe.
[06:47] <drif> Zaelore: just ask the question - no need to ask permission
[06:47] <Zaelore> I want to kill a process in kubuntu
[06:47] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: now it works. you changed something
[06:48] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: killall appname
[06:48] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: or push ctrl+alt+esc and click the window
[06:48] <Zaelore> it's not a gui app
[06:48] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: then type: killall appname
[06:48] <drif> Zaelore: although be very careful with that yurimxpxman's latest tip
[06:49] <intelikey> yurimxpxman yes when you said it errored   i fixed it  and repasted it.   ^ way up there    but you didn't get the fix you edited it your self and kept telling me that "my script was at fault"      like   duh.
[06:49] <Zaelore> I was using parted earlier to look at a disc and play with it now it seems to be running in the background and I can't restart it
 yurimxpxman yes.  sorry a space in the wrong place...> yurimxpxman yes.  sorry a space in the wrong place...
[06:49] <intelikey>             http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39177
[06:49] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: if you don't know the process's name, you can use the `top` command
[06:50] <Zaelore> it's name is 'parted' and I know it's pid too
[06:50] <Zaelore> if I do ps aux | grep parted
[06:50] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: you could type: `killall parted` or `kill [pid] `
[06:50] <Zaelore> I get root      8583  0.0  0.2   4396  1692 ?        D    00:36   0:00 parted
[06:50] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: you may have to run it with sudo
[06:50] <Zaelore> yeah I've tried that too
[06:50] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: yes, run: `sudo killall parted`
[06:50] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: what does it do?
[06:51] <drif> Zaelore: kill -9 8583
[06:51] <intelikey> Zaelore sudo  kill -9 8583
[06:51] <intelikey> Zaelore or  sudo kill -15 8583
[06:51] <Zaelore> ok tried that it didn't work
[06:51] <yurimxpxman> g2g
[06:52] <Zaelore> thanks for the help
[06:52] <Zaelore> what does -9 do?
[06:52] <intelikey> Zaelore pstree   and see what it's parrent is  sudo killall <parrent>
[06:52] <drif> Zaelore: it's KILL signal
[06:53] <drif> Zaelore: man kill
[06:53] <drif> Zaelore: to find out more
[06:53] <intelikey> -9 and -15 are signal switches to the kill command   term and kill
[06:53] <intelikey> i.e. more force.
[06:53] <Zaelore> apperantly it's parent is init
[06:54] <Zaelore> which sounds important
[06:54] <intelikey> you'll not kill that.
[06:54] <Zaelore> yeah
[06:54] <intelikey> so if you can't kill the process it's self (and that would mean something is wrong) then you are in for a reboot to kill it
[06:55] <Zaelore> yeah
[06:55] <Zaelore> that is probably what I will do
[06:55] <intelikey> and the (something wrong) would likely be  i/o errors
[06:55] <drif> Zaelore: there's slight chance the resource is so locked up it won't reboot cleanly though..
[06:56] <wers> how do I change the screen size on kubuntu? on tribe 5, the desktop was too big that only about 2/3 of the desktop was seen on my screen
[06:56] <intelikey> drif i'd say high probability
[06:56] <Zaelore> would that matter much?
[06:56] <drif> intelikey: I didn't want to sound over dramatic ;)
[06:57] <drif> Zaelore: well, not sure but you might need to power off from switch - if it happens to lock up
[06:57] <intelikey> drif it's even possable that it will require kernel side  hot keys to reset   alt+sysRQ+u/b
[06:57] <intelikey> heh i was typing that as you were.
[06:57] <Zaelore> k
[06:57] <Zaelore> reboot will probably fix it
[06:58] <intelikey> reboot will probably get you out of the hung app.
[06:58] <intelikey> as to fix...      S:
[06:59] <Zaelore> on a more mundane topic, do you know how to get wireless internet to work comming out of sleep? on an ibook g4
[06:59] <drif> intelikey: kernel side hotkeys btw?
[06:59] <intelikey>  alt+sysRQ+u/b
[06:59] <drif> intelikey: meaning..
[06:59] <intelikey> the alt key   plus   the  sysRQ key  plus   U  and then  B
[06:59] <drif> what the heck is sysRQ key?
[07:00] <Zaelore> yeah wtf is that
[07:00] <intelikey> normally found sharing the print screen key
[07:00] <drif> ah, true
[07:00] <drif> never used it as such purpose :D I recall
[07:00] <intelikey> test that key combo if you like     :)
[07:00] <drif> intelikey: not right now ;)
[07:00] <intelikey> and well see you in how ever long it takes to boot
[07:00] <drif> intelikey: what's the difference between u and b?
[07:01] <intelikey> u emergancy umount fs's   b boot
[07:01] <NoobSauce> anyone know of good video cameras (like camcorders) that work straight out of the box in ubuntu?
[07:01] <intelikey> r reset keyboard    e exit all processes
[07:01] <se7en^Of^9> is there a way to extract iso's
[07:02] <intelikey> there are some others   i just don't know them all
[07:02] <flaccid> !webcam
[07:02] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:02] <drif> intelikey: reset keyboard sounds bit vague when its non-responsive :D
[07:02] <flaccid> not really any straight out of box
[07:02] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 mount it
[07:02] <se7en^Of^9> intelikey: :) sorry stupid question ...
[07:02] <drif> se7en^Of^9: you can uses as loop devices
[07:02] <drif> uses=mount
[07:03] <intelikey> mount -o loop filename.iso /mount/point
[07:03] <intelikey> translate that  ^
[07:03] <inaety> hello when i try to start a java program called alice.org i get this in the konsole and it...just stops afterwards http://pastebin.com/m1f15f273
[07:04] <nixternal> inaety: sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[07:04] <flaccid> bind
[07:04] <nixternal> inaety: and then select the sun java compiler and not the gcj one
[07:05] <intelikey> drif non-responsive can be misleading too   it may mean one key accepted every x seconds due to overloaded io buffer  in which case the hotkey would take priority   so believe it or not it often works.
[07:05] <inaety> nixternal: usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/javac ?
[07:06] <nixternal> that will do it
[07:06] <inaety> nixternal: i still get the error
[07:06] <nixternal> with the libgcj.so?
[07:07] <inaety> yeah
[07:07] <nixternal> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:07] <nixternal> and select the sun java one
[07:08] <inaety> nixternal:  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[07:08] <inaety> ?
[07:08] <nixternal> yup
[07:08] <nixternal> is this the alice program for 3d designing stuff?
[07:09] <Zaelore> my computer crashed = )
[07:09] <inaety> nixternal: thanks a lot! it worked
[07:09] <nixternal> inaety: woot!
[07:09] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: got it yet?
[07:09] <nixternal> OK, so it was already compiled then :)
[07:09] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: you might have to login as root (not sudo) to do it
[07:09] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: I've had that problem once before
[07:09] <inaety> nixternal: thanks i appreciate it
[07:09] <nixternal> no problem
[07:10] <drif> nixternal: any clues why mine says 'unknown option' for --config=java?
[07:10] <Zaelore> the parted problem is fixed
[07:10] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: how'd you do it? reboot?
[07:10] <intelikey> hey hey hey...  i think that's a pci nic in that old box   i can use it in this one...   then i can expand the small lan by using this box as a gateway to the gateway...     errr ummm that does work doesn't it ?
[07:10] <nixternal> don't do --config=java, do --config java
[07:10] <nixternal> drif: ^^
[07:10] <drif> nixternal: sorry :D
[07:10] <Zaelore> well I got this new usb disc drive
[07:10] <nixternal> tis alright
[07:10] <Zaelore> and I was messing around with parted with it
[07:11] <Zaelore> and I unmounted it somehow and got parted to hang like I told you earlier
[07:11] <Zaelore> it may have been not completely 'unmounted' but it was as far as I knew
[07:11] <drif> nixternal: thanks, that actually migh have solved one prob my friend had earlier
[07:11] <drif> +t
[07:11] <Zaelore> and I pulled the drive out of my computer
[07:11] <Zaelore> and then I was talking to the kernal
[07:11] <Zaelore> or something
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> hehe
[07:12] <Zaelore> it was weird and I couldn't find the print screen key
[07:12] <Zaelore> so I typed zf and it died
[07:12] <intelikey> Zaelore classic   :)        yeah i/o errors   kernel don't like loosing hardware he's talking to ...
[07:13] <Zaelore> lol
[07:13] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: I'd still submit a bug report, though. It should be able to recognise that the hardware was pulled
[07:14] <intelikey> yurimxpxman bug the kernel team.  not ubuntu   it's kernel side.  i/o  errors
[07:14] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: that's what I meant
[07:14] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: you should report it on the LKML
[07:15] <Zaelore> where do I submit a bug report to the kernal team?
[07:15] <afiestas> hi, in gutsy will be posible configure wpa+static ip with a gui ? (now i'm using feisty with wlassistant)
[07:15] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: http://www.lkml.org/
[07:16] <intelikey> yurimxpxman means the ubuntu folks "can't fix that"  the kernel developers are the ones who will have to change it if it gets changed.     linux kernels "do not like to loose mounted fs's" period.
[07:16] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: create a new gmail account and sign up for the linux kernel mailing list, then send them a message
[07:16] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: read the lkml faq
[07:17] <Zaelore> is it bad to use an existing account?
[07:17] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: yes, because you'll get about a thousand e-mails a day from that list :-)
[07:18] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: or you may wish to just e-mail the list and request that all replies be CC'd to you
[07:19] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: the address is linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
[07:19] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: make sure you use a mail client in GNU/Linux and not Gmail, or else your e-mail will go to the bit bucket
[07:20] <Zaelore> i'm still a little confused about whether I will be wanting replies or not
[07:21] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: just request the replies to be CC'd to you. That way, you'll only get responses about your message. You'll want to read the replies to make sure they don't need more info
[07:23] <Zaelore> why is it bad to use gmail?
[07:24] <|biovore|> gmail is ok for crud mail..  Don't use it for secure stuff..
[07:24] <yurimxpxman> Zaelore: the list's server rejects all mail except those delivered by a GNU/Linux mail client. Stuff like hotmail and e-mails from win32 clients are ignored.
[07:25] <yurimxpxman> |biovore|: I'd hardly consider the LKML to be sensitive information
[07:25] <Zaelore> well I made a new gmail account
[07:25] <intelikey> and in the mean time we have to put up with full system lockup ....
[07:25] <|biovore|> well google spam filters block hotmail and yahoo because of spam problems..
[07:26] <yurimxpxman> |biovore|: no they don't..
[07:26] <|biovore|> I thing gmail to hotmail and yahoo has the same problems..
[07:26] <|biovore|> hehe
[07:27] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: how do you function..?
[07:27] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: you can't even order things online without e-mail :P
[07:28] <arun> intelikey: you don't email?
[07:28] <intelikey> yurimxpxman pretty regularly   and you ?
[07:28] <intelikey> :)
[07:29] <intelikey> arun  no
[07:29] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: pretty reguraly what?
[07:29] <intelikey> arun i stopped a few years back.
 intelikey: how do you function..?   <intelikey> yurimxpxman pretty regularly   and you ?  <<<<  it's  a joke....
[07:30] <intelikey> and a bad one.
[07:30] <arun> intelikey: how do you communicate? don't you need to use email where you work?
[07:31] <yurimxpxman> arun: intelikey has no life outside freenode. He's a human bot :-)
[07:31] <intelikey> arun heh  i accatually cant use email at work    so  no.   it's all hard copy  and mostly hand delivered.
[07:31] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: where do you work?
[07:31] <intelikey> yurimxpxman lol    that may be close to true...   lol
[07:31] <yurimxpxman> mcdonals? :P
[07:32] <dsmith_> hello
[07:32] <yurimxpxman> :-)
[07:32] <intelikey> yurimxpxman i really can't talk about that.   for the record i gather and distribute information,  and that's all i can say.
[07:33] <dsmith_> anyone run compiz?
[07:33] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: aha. I've done super-secret work before, too, but it wasn't exactly the legal kind.. :P
[07:33] <yurimxpxman> dsmith_: I've played with it, but I don't believe _anyone_  uses it permanently
[07:34] <intelikey> :)   then i'm probably not the guy to tell that too..  lol
[07:34] <Zaelore> uh oh he works for the fbi
[07:34] <dsmith_> hmmmm well since beryle has merged what is currently being used?
[07:34] <dsmith_> Zaelore: Nah, he's a compnay man for sure..
[07:35] <yurimxpxman> dsmith_: beryl is the new toy, but, again, I don't believe anyone actually uses it all the time
[07:35] <mendred> dsmith_: compiz-fusion.. (#compiz-fusion)
[07:35] <dsmith_> mendred: thx
[07:35] <mendred> yurimxpxman: ur looking at one who uses it all the time :)
[07:35] <yurimxpxman> dsmith_: or #beryl would be better
[07:35] <dsmith_> I've run beryl
[07:35] <yurimxpxman> mendred: why..?
[07:35] <dsmith_> kinda buggy
[07:36] <mendred> yurimxpxman: expo and scale plugins mostly..very convenient
[07:36] <mendred> and plus the gutsy compiz seems very stable and fast
[07:36] <mendred> on kde
[07:36] <mendred> so why not
[07:38] <megalomaniac> thanks...
[07:38] <intelikey> yeah but it didn't answer
[07:38] <megalomaniac> anyone know the linux equivelent to winrar?
[07:38] <intelikey> just checking your "* yurimxpxman/#kubuntu is actually using konversation atm"
[07:38] <yurimxpxman> megalomaniac: ark
[07:39] <intelikey> !rar
[07:39] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:39] <dsmith_> !7zip
[07:39] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[07:39] <yurimxpxman> !dsmith_
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsmith_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <intelikey> oh my poor little server is so bawged down...
[07:40] <megalomaniac> thaks a lot....
[07:41] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: you're speaking to a person who hosts ssh & apache and uploads torrents at the same time on a 384kbps upload.. yikes
[07:42] <intelikey> yurimxpxman dialup here    still care to compare notes ?
[07:42] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: what do you host?
[07:42] <intelikey> myself
[07:42] <intelikey> :)
[07:43] <intelikey> just a gateway   but it's in the process of apt-get dist-upgrade    right now.  so it's boged
[07:43] <intelikey> swamp'd
[07:44] <intelikey> no only in the dmz
[07:44] <intelikey> infact you shouldn't have found any open ports out there
[07:45] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: didn't try. I just tried 80
[07:45] <intelikey> and i don't run apache
[07:45] <intelikey> cherokee
[07:46] <yurimxpxman> NickPresta: why?
[07:46] <intelikey> you also need to remember what i have spent on computers     $0.00
[07:46] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: why?
[07:46] <intelikey> not sure how much lag  so   why what ?
[07:47] <yurimxpxman> intelikey: I thought FBI agents made a pretty good living :P
[07:47] <intelikey> they probably do.
[07:48] <NickPresta> yurimxpxman, sisters are downloading a movie or something else stupid. I'm seeding a Kubuntu DVD image. My sisters and I are all logged into IM, I'm on XChat, plus my HTTP server. Congestion =(
[07:48] <yurimxpxman> NickPresta: I have a solution for you: stop seeding the movie :-)
[07:48] <NickPresta> yurimxpxman, I will tell my sisters that in the morning, yes. =)
[07:48] <Zaelore> kill their download
[07:49] <Agent_bob> i'm only 11 years old.
[07:49] <drif> NickPresta: throttle that torrent transfer a bit..
[07:49] <NickPresta> it isn't a big deal since everyone else is asleep. I'm in the only one awake...
[07:49] <wastedfluid> hi guys.  Is /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux the scripts for hibernate+standby in KDE?
[07:49] <NickPresta> drif, I've told them countless times about upload slots, max connection, max upload, etc. They're stubborn. heh
[07:49] <Agent_bob> "irc, where men are men,  and women are men,   and children are..."
[07:50] <drif> Agent_bob: your colleagues?
[07:50] <NickPresta> wastedfluid, it appears so. Try `cat /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-reboot-linux`. It looks like it...
[07:50] <wastedfluid> NickPresta: thanks.
[07:51] <wastedfluid> just implementing s2disk, and s2ram..
[07:51] <Agent_bob> drif  :)   in a sense i suppose
[07:51] <yurimxpxman> ..but can't put his away message on because it already is :-)
[07:52] <Agent_bob> drif you can probably google that quote.  i don't recall who's it is...
[07:52] <NickPresta> wastedfluid, try the 'hibernate' package. It might do what you want...
[07:52] <NickPresta> !hibernate
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <NickPresta> wastedfluid,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/hibernate
[07:52] <wastedfluid> NickPresta: No thanks.  I know for sure s2disk works.
[07:53] <drif> Agent_bob: I'm familiar with that quote.. "..fbi agents"
[07:53] <Agent_bob> !hybernate
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hybernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <wastedfluid> I've never been successful with anything other than s2disk.. from 6.06 up.
[07:53] <wastedfluid> but, thank you anyway.. I appreciate it.
[07:53] <Agent_bob> well NickPresta there used to be an infonode on that...
[07:53] <drif> should consider sleep I guess
[07:54] <wastedfluid> I should, to
[07:54] <wastedfluid> too* - ack!
[07:54] <Agent_bob> drif shalom,   and sleep well
[07:54] <NickPresta> wastedfluid, try this too: http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2007/02/11/fixing-software-suspend-hibernate-with-uswsusp-in-ubuntu-feisty-and-edgy/
[07:55] <wastedfluid> Oh, NickPresta.  I've already installed uswsusp.. that is the s2disk.
[07:55] <drif> Agent_bob: thanks :)
[07:56] <NickPresta> wastedfluid, oh. heh.
[07:56] <wastedfluid> hehe. ty though.
[07:58] <wastedfluid> thanks again, Nick.
[07:58] <wastedfluid> Good day.
[07:59] <intelikey> if init runs a script that calls  apt-get   where will the output be ?
[08:00] <intelikey> tty0 ?
[08:00] <intelikey> tty8 ?
[08:01] <intelikey> i'd like to check the progress   but don't want to phisically go to the box...   isn't that sad...
[08:01] <flaccid> not really
[08:02] <intelikey> you only say cause you are the same way...  :)
[08:02] <flaccid> true
[08:15] <intelikey> wow.   hot debate in ##linux    windows -vs- the unstable unsuable super-expensive *nix world.   heh
[08:15] <intelikey> or actually a troll getting picked apart...
[08:20] <intelikey> so anyone know, if init runs a script that calls:  apt-get dist-upgrade -y  :where will the output be ?   so i can check up on it, every few hours...   ?
[08:23] <flaccid> um check all tty?
[08:23] <drif> intelikey: why not redirect output(s) to file?
[08:27] <intelikey> -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 228.723 seconds
[08:28] <intelikey> sorry.
[08:39] <gnyffel> Can anyone think of why aptitude insists that the linux-restricted-modules-generic has 2.6.20.15.14 as a dependency, despite 2.6.20-16 being available?
[08:39] <dhq> how do i monitor incomin connections
[08:39] <drif> dhq: netstat
[08:39] <drif> dhq: or what do you mean precisely
[08:39] <dhq> drif, i mean bluetooth connections
[08:43] <dhq> how di i monitor  bluetooth connections
[08:43] <dhq> how do i monitor  bluetooth connections
[08:44] <SteamMachine> Hello World!
[08:46] <standa> hello everybody
[08:47] <flaccid> !info kbluetooth
[08:47] <ubotu> Package kbluetooth does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:47] <flaccid> !bluetooth
[08:47] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:54] <dhq> is there anyway i can use my pc as a headset for my cell via bluetooth
[08:55] <drif> dhq: yup, we once accidentaly (wasn't our purpose at the moment) paired up cellphone and laptop
[08:56] <drif> laptop's soundcard to be more exact
[08:56] <dhq> drif, how do i do it
[08:56] <drif> dhq: hard to say right away, I don't have any bluetotth devices in my linux setup
[08:56] <dhq> :(
[08:58] <dhq> drif, can you link me if you have any idea
[08:59] <drif> dhq: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=26045232
[09:00] <drif> dhq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=bluetooth&titlesearch=Titles
[09:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> Hello, I have installed Kubuntu on my laptop and the login screen is scrolling off the screen when I move my mouse in any direction past the screen. I think that it is virtually expanded and I want to change it so it can display the page with the correct resolution. Any pointers?
[09:02] <drif> gundam_rx78nt1: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and match your "Virtual" with your real resolution
[09:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, let me try that.
[09:03] <paritosh> is there a way to recover your /var. i lost it when i tried to mount it on a separate partition.
[09:03] <drif> lost it?
[09:03] <paritosh> i mean...like you have to copy the stuff from the original /var to the new partition right?
[09:04] <paritosh> the permissions got messed up during that process
[09:04] <paritosh> now some programs can't write to their directories, so my system is kind of broken in some ways
[09:04] <combo> what should i do if some of programms i want to install need 'libdaaf2-0'? where can i get this ?
 my adept crashes
 help please.
[09:06] <paritosh> ?
[09:06] <drif> jake: "he" is a bot..
[09:07] <drif> jake: it does sometimes..use apt-get or aptitude istead?
[09:07] <jake> yah. but he detecting the word adept crash
[09:08] <jake> he gave the right command before
[09:08] <paritosh> !ubotu
[09:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:08] <paritosh> !ubotu adept crash
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <jake> my adept says i cannot modify it, it says some other app running
[09:09] <combo> !libfaad
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libfaad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <jake> help guys please
[09:10] <jake> !adept
[09:10] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:10] <combo> jake: reboot system cuz adept is using by some else apps
[09:10] <drif> jake: sudo lsof /var/cache/apt/*
[09:10] <drif> jake: to see if something is already accessing it
[09:11] <jake> i did it but nothing happens
[09:11] <drif> no output?
[09:11] <jake> ! adept crashes
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept crashes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <NickPresta> what are you trying to figure out?
[09:11] <NickPresta> adept crashed?
[09:11] <NickPresta> !adept
[09:11] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:12] <NickPresta> !adeptfix
[09:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:12] <NickPresta> that's it...
[09:13] <jake> yes!! this is what im looking for! thanx
[09:14] <MrBougo> hiho
[09:15] <MrBougo> is it possible to set up an alias that is usable with sudo?
[09:15] <uubu> alias for a command?
[09:16] <MrBougo> yup
[09:16] <uubu> what would you like the command to do?
[09:16] <MrBougo> i set up an alias
[09:17] <MrBougo> but i cant use it with sudo
[09:17] <MrBougo> its not about a specific alias
[09:17] <jake> anybody here guys using a vmware?
[09:17] <MrBougo> but if i set up aliases, i cant use them with sudo
[09:17] <uubu> by alias do you mean symlink?
[09:17] <jake> i installed vm player
[09:17] <MrBougo> jake: a vmware hostink kubuntu or a kubuntu with vmware?
[09:17] <MrBougo> a bash alias uubu
[09:18] <jake> yes
[09:18] <jake> i wanna install windows to my kubuntu
[09:19] <uubu> how are you setting the alias, MrBougo
[09:19] <MrBougo> alias <something>="<omething else>"
[09:20] <uubu> might i suggest #bash
[09:20] <uubu> what is the actual problem with the alias you made
[09:20] <MrBougo> i'm on it
[09:20] <MrBougo> the channel is pretty empty
[09:20] <MrBougo> oh wait
[09:21] <phoenixz> I just did a full upgrade from within adept manager, and now I don't see the hibernate option anymore in the shutdown screen.. why is this, and how do I get hibernate back?
[09:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> drif: that didn't work. It changed the resolution on the login screen but it also changes the desktop resolution to the same resolution as the virtual setting. I have an nvidia chipset card.
[09:21] <MrBougo> okay uubu
[09:22] <MrBougo> they suggested me to mak a scipt
[09:22] <uubu> what is the actual problem. what is the actual alias you tried to set... i dont know the problem yet
[09:22] <jake> MrBougo where do i get vmware server?
[09:22] <uubu> jake: http://vmware.com
[09:23] <uubu> !vmware > jake
[09:23] <paritosh> how do you find what process writes to a directory in /var
[09:29] <uubu> Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:29] <uubu> oopsy
[09:35] <combo> !streamtuner
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streamtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <combo> what was command to install ntfs-configure so i can make ntfs partion writable ? :] 
[09:46] <combo> !pastebin
[09:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <flaccid> !fuse
[09:46] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[09:46] <flaccid> !ntfs-3g
[09:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:47] <combo> flaccid: yes, i have 3g but also need something else to configure that
[09:47] <combo> !ntfs
[09:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:48] <flaccid> it says it on that page: Enable the universe repository and install the ntfs-config package. See Installing Software.
[09:48] <flaccid> !info ntfs-config
[09:48] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[09:49] <combo> !secpolicy
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secpolicy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <nobbi> moin moin
[10:01] <danya> hello .. I need some help .. I don't know whats wrong with my system .yesterday I cou;dnt log into gnome till now ..whenever I choose gnome desktop nothing appears on the desktop .. anyone ?
[10:01] <danya> I'm on feisty 64-bit
[10:02] <Lynoure> danya: You might get better help on that on #ubuntu if your kde login works fine
[10:02] <danya> Lynoure : thanks
[10:06] <NickPresta> !hardware
[10:06] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:06] <NickPresta> good ubotu
[10:06] <NickPresta> !botsnack
[10:06] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:09] <MrBougo> hello, it' me again :p
[10:09] <MrBougo> it's*
[10:10] <Assid> oh crap
[10:10] <NickPresta> !hi
[10:10] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:10] <MrBougo> when i write my bash script, i try to execute it
[10:10] <MrBougo> isnt it supposed to work without using the "sh" command?
[10:11] <NickPresta> assuming you havea shebang
[10:11] <NickPresta> and its +x
[10:11] <MrBougo> a shebang?
[10:11] <pag> MrBougo, chmod +x yourscript  and  ./yourscript
[10:11] <NickPresta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29
[10:11] <pag> make sure you're in the right directory
[10:11] <MrBougo> yup
[10:12] <NickPresta> so #!/bin/sh and then chmod +x script. then ./yourscript
[10:12] <MrBougo> oh, that's called a shebang
[10:12] <MrBougo> i didnt know
[10:13] <NickPresta> hashbang/shebang
[10:13] <gundam_rx78nt1> how and where do I change the login screen resolution? I have on my grub menu.lst file vga=0x317 and whenever I change my virtual resolution on my xorg.conf file, it changes the desktop resolution. Please help me.
[10:13] <pag> I'd reccomend #!/bin/bash  since ubuntu has a 'nice' feature to point sh to dash
[10:15] <NickPresta> pag, yes. I forgot to mention that since I updated the symlink (stupid dash).
[10:17] <carbonfreeze> its best to call with /usr/bin/env bash for platform friendlyness
[10:19] <NickPresta> if your script is posix compliant, you might as well use /bin/sh as /bin/sh is supposed to point to a posix compliant shell.
[10:25] <NickPresta> well, I'm off to sleep. Goodnight #kubuntu
[10:52] <|marco|> italiani?
[10:53] <|marco|> italiani?
[10:53] <|marco|> ????
[10:53] <pag> !it
[10:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:54] <MrBougo> oh, kubuntu-it exists too?
[10:54] <MrBougo> !de
[10:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:54] <MrBougo> !nl
[10:54] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[10:56] <MrBougo> !ubotu
[10:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:56] <MrBougo> !it | |marco|
[10:56] <ubotu> |marco|: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:57] <MrBougo> he didnt understand
[11:01] <MrBougo> bye
[11:13] <combo> always after start-up there is a adept-manager informing me that i have to upgrade libfaad2-0. and i'm always upgrading it :/ how can i stop that ?
[11:13] <guitarhero> hi
[11:15] <pag> combo, disable one of two conflicting repos
[11:15] <combo> pag: how to do that, master ? :)
[11:17] <pag> combo, it's hard to say... could you pastebin the output of " apt-cache policy libfaad2-0 "
[11:17] <combo> pag: ok
[11:18] <combo> pag: done :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35092/
[11:19] <pag> combo, what's that "http://ubuntu.cafuego.net feisty-cafuego/all" repo? anything important?
[11:20] <combo> pag: let me see...
[11:21] <combo> pag: i have this repo from forum... don't know actually what is this... but not necessary :P
[11:21] <combo> delete this repo ?
[11:21] <germaine> french room pls
[11:21] <pag> combo, comment it - there's no need to delete anything :)
[11:21] <pag> !fr | germaine
[11:22] <ubotu> germaine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:22] <germaine> ty ubo
[11:22] <pag> combo, iow: prefix lines related to thet repo in sources.list with #
[11:22] <germaine> ubo i have some  problem for install yahoo messenger
[11:23] <combo> pag: done :)
[11:23] <pag> !ubotu | germaine
[11:23] <ubotu> germaine: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:23] <combo> pag: thanks a lot :D
[11:23] <pag> combo, does it work now?
[11:23] <pag> germaine, why are you trying to install Yahoo messenger - try using Kopete instead
[11:24] <combo> pag: reboot and then we'll see that
[11:24] <pag> combo, don't reboot. just " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade "
[11:25] <linoleum_> hi guys, I m kurently using ubuntu, but I m doing an apt-get install kde at the moment ... is there any way , to use kde4 instead of the normal kde 3.5 ?
[11:25] <pag> linoleum_, please see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[11:26] <pag> linoleum_, and in my personal opinion; you should've installed kubuntu-desktop instead of kde
[11:27] <combo> pag: now it works! no more this stupid adept manager update :D
[11:27] <linoleum_> pag, tkx for that. Why shoud I installe kubuntu-desktop instead of KDE ? I m a gnome user, I just want to try KDE for 1 week, and if possible, kde 4 too . I wish to have both desktop envirmenemt, but keep the ubuntu base
[11:28] <dhq> flash doesnt seem to be working on my pc
[11:28] <dhq> !flash
[11:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:29] <combo> how can i edit KDM themes?
[11:30] <combo> i mean how to change login theme ? :] 
[11:30] <combo> ...if downloaded some new stuff
[11:31] <dhq> flash doesnt work for me :(
[11:32] <germaine> why it is impossible of  to go in room with kepete
[11:32] <germaine> kopete
[11:36] <pag> linoleum, sorry that took so long: kubuntu-desktop is a usable enviroment, with good programms chosen for you, while kde is just a package that contains pretty much everything kde-project has created
[11:37] <pag> combo, install kdmtheme -package
[11:38] <pag> !doesntwork | dhq
[11:38] <ubotu> dhq: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:39] <combo> pag: :)
[11:39] <dhq> pag, well firefox doesnt display flash it crashes
[11:40] <combo> pag: '-package' option is unknown
[11:40] <pag> dhq, does other browsers work?
[11:40] <combo> maybe without '-package' ? :)
[11:40] <pag> combo, sudo apt-get install kdemtheme
[11:40] <combo> right :] 
[11:40] <combo> done already, thanks
[11:41] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: System Settings, Appearance, KDM theme manager, add theme
[11:41] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Install new theme, to be precise
[11:41] <dhq> pag, konqueror works to some extent
[11:42] <pag> dhq, which ubuntu version and arch are you running?
[11:42] <dhq> fiesty
[11:47] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: uhh... now i see u wrote that cuz i've just wanted to ask how to install new themes :D thx for answer ;)
[11:47] <combo> - i couldn't find that
[11:50] <wers> have anyone here tried cnr?
[11:50] <wers> it seems to be operating now
[11:56] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: to change KDM theme - as u said - i have to click on Administration Mode... and there is no such button :|
[11:56] <combo> ...so i can't change KDM theme :] 
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: You need to scroll down a bit, it's probably not on the screen (for whatever reasons)
[11:57] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: crap! can't find that
[11:58] <pag> combo, or use " kdesu systemsettings " it'll open Sys.Set.s with Admin priviledges
[11:58] <combo> there is no scroll option anywhere
[11:58] <combo> pag: try that
[11:58] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Otherwise try kcontrol
[11:58] <combo> pag: it works :)
[11:58] <combo> ok thanks for help guys
[12:00] <phanatik> haaaaaalllooo wer ist hier deutsch, kennt sich mit beryl und xgl aus und kann mir helfen?
[12:01] <pag> !de | phanatik
[12:01] <ubotu> phanatik: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:05] <Naugas> Hi! How do I install locales separately for use of native characters?
[12:07] <Naugas> Found it mentioned here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WriteSupportForNTFS - but I can't find much more...
[12:08] <Naugas> ...like what install it "separately" is? I've installed swedish through adept manager.
[12:09] <Naugas> or maybe not... :\ only for kde it seems like.
[12:11] <ksivaji> is it possible compile gtk programming with
[12:11] <ksivaji> can i compile gtk program using gcc
[12:12] <ksivaji> !gtk
[12:12] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[12:12] <combo> - where are defaultly saved KDE wallpapers ?
[12:14] <combo> i meant where are defaulty KDE wallpapers ? :}
[12:19] <combo> can someone tell me where are deafult KDE wallpapers ? which folder ? :] 
[12:19] <runlevelten> ksivaji: yes. combo: kdeprefix/share/wallpapers iirc
[12:20] <runlevelten> ie: /usr/share/wallpapers
[12:21] <ksivaji> runlevelten  http://pastebin.com/d3149dadd      see this
[12:21] <combo> runlevelten: THXXXX :)))
[12:23] <runlevelten> ksivaji: most errors compiling are through dependency problems.
[12:23] <runlevelten> ksivaji: You fulfil dependencies for compilations not with the normal packahes, but the dev ones
[12:24] <runlevelten> so blah-devel, blah_devel, blah-dev :)
[12:24] <ksivaji> runlevelten i cant get you gtk is new for me
[12:25] <runlevelten> Well it's general advice. You're missing gtk development files, which will be in the repos
[12:28] <ksivaji> runlevelten but how to locate tthat fiile
[12:31] <runlevelten> sudo apt-cache search gtk | grep dev and install the one that fits your current gtk version
[12:31] <phayz> i'm trying to enabled the 'artwiz' (bitmap) fonts.  after installed the deb package, i ran the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" and restarted X
[12:32] <phayz> my problem is that these fonts are not visible to kde apps and i don't understand why
[12:34] <phayz> bbiaf
[12:44] <solarwaver> is anyone knows why when i play a game computer shutdown
[12:45] <phayz> solarwaver: can you find any relevant messages in the various system's logs - /var/log? - e.g. /var/log/messages
[12:45] <ksivaji> solarwaver it happen only when you play games or all the tome ?
[12:45] <ksivaji> time*
[12:46] <phayz> solarwaver: are you running the game under the X or from the console?
[12:46] <solarwaver> from the x
[12:48] <phayz> solarwaver: in that case you should check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for relevant messages
[12:48] <solarwaver> is something with the nvidia glx
[12:49] <solarwaver> ?
[12:50] <phayz> solarwaver: has this problem started recently or has it "always" happened?
[12:50] <solarwaver> it always happen
[12:50] <combo_> do u use guarddog perhaps ? :}
[12:50] <solarwaver> what is guardog?
[12:51] <combo_> !guarddog
[12:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:51] <combo_> - can't configure in guarddog FrosWire connection :] 
[12:51] <phayz> solarwaver: are you sure you're using the correct nvidia driver for your card?
[12:52] <solarwaver> nvidia glx?
[12:54] <phayz> solarwaver: there are about three different nvidia driver packages available from (k)ubuntu, i believe
[12:55] <phayz> solarwaver: did you use "restricted-manager" to install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[12:57] <solarwaver> i use adept
[12:58] <solarwaver> i have a nvidia geforce 4 mx440 128m
[12:58] <solarwaver> and i intall nvidia glx
[12:59] <solarwaver> i must restart stem after that?
[12:59] <phayz> solarwaver: i'm not an expert in this area, sorry
[12:59] <phayz> solarwaver: after this installation, you should at least have restarted X
[12:59] <solarwaver> what is the 3 packages?
[01:00] <phayz> solarwaver: is it possible to disable the use of glx in the game you're trying to play - just as a test?
[01:00] <phayz> solarwaver: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:00] <solarwaver> waiut a minuteto restart
[01:03] <solarwaver> hello
[01:05] <phayz> solarwaver: hello 2 u  :)
[01:05] <solarwaver> hi pahyz
[01:06] <solarwaver> until now it is not playing anything
[01:06] <richard> can someone give me the command to fix adept if its screwed
[01:06] <runlevelten> !adeptfix
[01:06] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:08] <combo_> - is GUARDDOG launching at start-up automaticly ?
[01:08] <richard> cheers obotu thats the one i was looking for! =)
[01:09] <phayz> solarwaver: sorry for the delay - i don't know what else might be going wrong
[01:09] <phayz> solarwaver: maybe google for the message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[01:10] <phayz> solarwaver: also, check that you're using the correct nvidia-glx-XXX package but checking the list of drivers and cards on nvidia's web site
[01:14] <solarwaver> how i change color depht
[01:14] <solarwaver> ?
[01:14] <jana> hello, what's the status bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[01:15] <jana> because it doesn't work
[01:16] <solarwaver> how i change color depht?
[01:18] <jana> how do i install bcm43xx firmware because it doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/m7d1e3588
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> jana: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[01:22] <phayz> solarwaver: to force a specific color depth, add a line to your /etc/X11/xorgc.conf file's "Screen" section - "Defaultdepth XX", where XX is the depth you want
[01:24] <Q-collective> Hello all, could anyone point me to a nice wireless howto for a broadcom card?
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> Q-collective: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[01:27] <phayz> solarwaver: sorry but i've got to go for the night
[01:29] <Q-collective> nosrednaekim: thank you, I have a broadcom 57xx card though and that howto is written for 43xx cards, does that matter?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> Q-collective: to tell you the truth IDK... i've never read it :)
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> let me see
[01:29] <Q-collective> hehe
[01:30] <flaccid> !wireless
[01:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:31] <flaccid> which modem broadcom exactly
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> Q-collective: no, it probably does not.
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> Q-collective: wait a second.... the 57xx is ETHERNET.
[01:33] <flaccid> http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netxtreme_server.php ?
[01:33] <Q-collective> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[01:33] <Q-collective> that's what lspci says to me
[01:33] <Q-collective> :>
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> Q-collective: I thing thats a 43xx
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> *think
[01:34] <Q-collective> ok
[01:34] <germaine> why when i click  joint a room   i am not in an room
[01:34] <combo_> why frostwire cannot connect to the network ? :|
[01:34] <germaine> i have gaim
[01:34] <germaine> i must donwload some plugins
[01:35] <germaine> or no
[01:35] <solarwaver> i have a nviadia geforce 4 mx440 128mb which driver is the best the lecasy or the glx?
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> germaine: whats the problem?
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> solarwaver: glx
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> but not glx-new
[01:36] <germaine> the probleme is  gaim   when i click joint a room  impossible  to get
[01:36] <germaine> arizona:1  i click and nothing
[01:36] <runlevelten> for what protocol?
[01:36] <runlevelten> Yahoo?
[01:36] <germaine> i do not know
[01:37] <runlevelten> You don't know... what service you have signed up for...
[01:37] <runlevelten> ?
[01:37] <solarwaver> the lecasy one for the old nvidia cards right?
[01:37] <flaccid> Q-collective, here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDell
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> yay flaccid!!
[01:38] <flaccid> Q-collective, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[01:38] <solarwaver> nosrednaekim the driver for the older nvidia cards?
[01:39] <germaine> run i do not know
[01:39] <germaine> i have just donwload
[01:40] <solarwaver> nosrednaekim the driver for the older nvidia cards?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> solarwaver: the geforce 4 are very odd, they are not supported by the legacy driver, and are not supported by the newest drivers. Use the mvidia-glx package
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> solarwaver: please do not repeat yourself, it is rude.
[01:41] <gorgonizer> is there an easy way to add pata_via driver to the kernel without having to rebuild it?  If not, what is the best methodology of rebuilding a Kubuntu kernel?  I have rebuilt Gentoo/Debian kernels, is it a similar process?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> gorgonizer: it is very similar(probably identical) to Debian's
[01:41] <solarwaver> ok
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> gorgonizer: but you can probably just build a module, but I guess it depends on the function.
[01:43] <gorgonizer> nosrednaekim: cheers for that, how would I build just the module?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> gorgonizer: probably just go get the source, unzip it, an run "make" and "make install"
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> gorgonizer: the source will have instructions
[01:45] <germaine> #  netstat -laputen
[01:45] <gorgonizer> thanks for the assist!!
[01:46] <germaine> some  are close_wait
[01:58] <combo_> what is ALT+SPACE shortcut actually ? i have some window with 'catapult' ?!
[01:58] <fdoving> you can launch apps from it.
[01:58] <combo_> fdoving: every app ?
[01:58] <fdoving> start typing for example 'konq' and you'll get Konqueror.
[01:58] <fdoving> combo_: every app in the menu.
[01:58] <combo_> WOA!
[01:58] <combo_> such great!
[01:58] <combo_> :D:D
[01:59] <fdoving> you can also enable other things.
[01:59] <combo_> so what is shortcut for minimize window then ?
[01:59] <fdoving> like 'spell someword'
[01:59] <combo_> i used for all my life ALT+Space+N
[01:59] <combo_> :] 
[01:59] <combo_> fdoving: programmers made GREAT job! xD
[02:00] <solarwaver> nosrednaekim where can i find the mvidia-glx
[02:00] <solarwaver> ?
[02:00] <fdoving> combo_: you can try alt+f5 to minimize.
[02:01] <combo_> fdoving: and where can i change it ?
[02:01] <combo_> ok, found that :)
[02:01] <fdoving> combo_: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts
[02:02] <solarwaver> is anyone knows what package i use for nvidia GeForce 4 mx 440 128 mb?
[02:02] <combo_> fdoving: thanks for explanation
[02:02] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[02:04] <gorgonizer> solarwaver: I would imagine nvidia-glx, rather than the legacy or new ones..
[02:05] <solarwaver> the nvidia-glx is for the new ones?
[02:06] <solarwaver> is working with sudo?
[02:08] <Q-collective> hmm
[02:09] <sehe> hmmm u 2 :D
[02:09] <Q-collective> ndiswrapper is giving me an error
[02:09] <Q-collective> $ sudo ndiswrapper -l
[02:09] <Q-collective> bcmwl5 : invalid driver!
[02:09] <Q-collective> :\
[02:09] <sehe> Q-collective: are you malqos from last nite?
[02:09] <Q-collective> no
[02:09] <sehe> Q-collective: mmm same erorr
[02:09] <Q-collective> ah
[02:10] <sehe> Q-collective: i'd wage a google on it, since it is probably more NDIS related than *ubuntu
[02:10] <sehe> Q-collective: he had same message with same driver
[02:10] <werner_> guten tag
[02:10] <sehe> hi werner_
[02:10] <sehe> !de
[02:10] <Q-collective> sehe: alright
[02:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:11] <sehe> Q-collective: if it is a broadcom NIC, you may be able to use fwcutter (i use it)
[02:11] <sehe> !find fwcutter | Q-collective
[02:11] <ubotu> q-collective: Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:11] <solarwaver> i install nvidia-glx with sudo apt-get install its ok?
[02:11] <sehe> solarwaver: go ahead
[02:11] <sehe> solarwaver: it's your pc, init?
[02:12] <solarwaver> what r u mean?
[02:13] <sehe> solarwaver: no, what do *you* mean. You ask whether it is ok to install something.
[02:13] <sehe> solarwaver: of course it is. What is your *question*? Any worries?
[02:13] <solarwaver> it doesn't play anything
[02:13] <sehe> solarwaver: it?
[02:14] <solarwaver> ubuntu i mean
[02:14] <sehe> solarwaver: games? what?
[02:14] <sehe> !doesn't work | solarwaver
[02:14] <ubotu> solarwaver: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:15] <solarwaver> the games of ubuntu scorched 3d , nexuiz , tec doesn,t play
[02:15] <Q-collective> sehe: I cannot install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:15] <Q-collective> http://pastebin.com/m10589eec
[02:15] <sehe> Q-collective: i use fwcutter myself, i never did like to use NDIS. Still relies on proprietary (windows , ugh) drievrs
[02:16] <sehe> Q-collective: that's a broken link in debian packages. Unfortunate
[02:16] <sehe> Q-collective: i don't have the package file, you might find it in a package repo
[02:17] <sehe> solarwaver: so you need better graphics drievrs, ic. Is your card nvidia?
[02:17] <solarwaver> tes
[02:17] <solarwaver> yes
[02:17] <Q-collective> sehe: then where do I put it?
[02:18] <sehe> Q-collective: anywhere, run 'dpkg -i <packagefile>' to install (or rightclick menu in konq)
[02:18] <sehe> solarwaver: looks like you should install the nvidia stuff indeed.
[02:18] <sehe> !nvidia | solarwaver
[02:18] <solarwaver> nvidia Geforce 4 mx440 128
[02:18] <ubotu> solarwaver: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:18] <FSHero> !NFS
[02:18] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:19] <runlevelten> There is no such error as "Doesn't Play".
[02:19] <sehe> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:19] <sehe> runlevelten: thanks for sharing :)
[02:19] <sehe> Q-collective: ^^
[02:19] <Q-collective> :)
[02:20] <runlevelten> sehe: You're welcome.
[02:20] <gorgonizer> runlevelten: cheers, that made me laugh :)
[02:20] <sehe> hehehe all back at cruising speed aren't we :) lol
[02:22] <sehe> Q-collective: i don't exactlt know how fwcutter is supposed to work with the driver modules, but I remember, the driver was in the standard kernel, all I needed is run 'bcm43xx-fwcutter from the console.
[02:22] <sehe> Q-collective: apparently it is only there to avoid legal issues (firmware may be proprietory)
[02:24] <Q-collective> heh
[02:24] <Q-collective> now it gives me a dephell ;_;
[02:24] <sehe> ok i see i linked to unstable
[02:25] <sehe> maybe find a stable .deb
[02:25] <Q-collective> right
[02:26] <sehe> Q-collective: or follow the directions in this page to download directly from berlios (and compile it yourself) http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/HOW_TO_install_the_Broadcom_bcm43xx_Driver_in_Debian_Linux_and_enable_WPA_Encryption
[02:26] <Q-collective> ah, thx
[02:27] <sehe> i think http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/bcm43xx-fwcutter could work a bit better
[02:27] <sehe> Q-collective: really, there is a problem with the package, so you might report it as a bug
[02:27] <sehe> !bug
[02:27] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:28] <Q-collective> yeah, that's the package that is giving me troubles
[02:28] <Q-collective> so yeah, I'll report it, later on
[02:29] <sehe> Q-collective:  ok. seems like the only alternative is berlios (see howto^^). Unless of course you get NDIS to work after all
[02:34] <fdoving> does anyone have compiz working with kde-window-decorator on gutsy
[02:34] <fdoving> ?
[02:34] <sehe> fdoving: i don't but try #ubuntu+1
[02:48] <combo_> can someone help me with codecs? i installed them via AUTOMATIX but it looks there is something missin' :|
[02:48] <combo_> [ ** AUTOMATIX v2 of cuz ] 
[02:48] <sehe> combo_: it looks like... what do you see that leads you to that idea?
[02:49] <combo_> i see an image buit defromated in one of my *avi movie
[02:49] <combo_> and there is no subtitles in it
[02:49] <pag> !automatix | combo_
[02:49] <ubotu> combo_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[02:49] <sehe> !codec | combo_
[02:49] <ubotu> combo_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <combo_> sehe: i though that a-matix installs EVERY necessary codecs. :S
[02:50] <sehe> combo_: seems installation went fine. could be known limitations of the particular (nonfree) codecs. Have a look at their respectivce websites
[02:50] <combo_> sehe: ok
[02:50] <sehe> combo_: nothing wrong with automatics, pag is right in pointing out limited warranty
[02:54] <combo_> craaaaap! under totem THAT movie works fine... mplayer doesn't work same like my favourite Kaffeine :] 
[02:54] <combo_> is this depended on movie player ?
[02:55] <sehe> combo_: actually engine used. Kaffeine, e.g. can work with xine engine, kaffeine engine etc.
[02:55] <combo_> sehe - correct, on Kaffeine i'm using Xine engine
[02:55] <combo_> so... because of engine it doesn't work :] 
[02:55] <sehe> combo_: i'm not into multimedia so I don't know which does what best
[02:55] <sehe> !doesn't work | combo_
[02:55] <ubotu> combo_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:55] <sehe> hahaha
[02:55] <combo_> sehe: ok, i'll play with it :)
[02:56] <combo_> sehe: :)
[02:56] <sehe> combo_: thanks for letting us know bout the cause !
[02:56] <combo_> sehe: doesn't work = the image is deformated
[02:56] <sehe> combo_: I know :) i was just quipping (see 'hahaha' ^^?)
[02:57] <combo_> sehe: ok ] :->
[03:06] <jason__10> Morning
[03:06] <sehe> afternoon :)
[03:06] <jason__10> Im sort of still in bed.... 14:07
[03:07] <sehe> haha have a coffee
[03:07] <jason__10> great Idea lol
[03:09] <jason__10> demonstrates my tiredness, Did i close the window or get kicked?
[03:09] <sehe> i fink you closed it
[03:09] <jason__10> :)
[03:09] <sehe> ctrl+q becomes a habit (like coffee)
[03:09] <jason__10> yup, so sehe, what do ya use kubuntu for?
[03:10] <sehe> sehe: well, do you have a while
[03:10] <jason__10> lol
[03:10] <jason__10> I mean, work or play, or both] 
[03:10] <sehe> wokr and play
[03:11] <sehe> my webserver + mailserver are on ubuntu
[03:11] <jason__10> thats good. What work do ya do?
[03:11] <jason__10> ahh
[03:11] <sehe> my desktop (development machine) and laptop (office machine) are kubuntu
[03:11] <sehe> i'm a software developer
[03:12] <jason__10> Nice one
[03:12] <sehe> yup
[03:12] <jason__10> I want to be a remote technician
[03:12] <meson10> i have a Kubuntu installed..and need fedora to be installed as well
[03:12] <pag> !offtopic | jason__10, sehe
[03:12] <sehe> ? as in 'harmony remote' or 'remote'
[03:12] <ubotu> jason__10, sehe: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:12] <meson10> is it feasible that i dont loose my kubuntu from booting after that?
[03:12] <sehe> pag: we know... nobody was talking
[03:13] <stdin> sehe: that's not the point now is it?
[03:13] <sehe> meson10: yes. although in my experience it is easier th other way round (ubuntu has a friendlier installer with better 'cooperative' partitioning
[03:13] <jason__10> sehe:  I want to use Kubuntu to remote support people who are having trouble, with its in built KDRC or with TSclient
[03:13] <sehe> jason__10: ic. doesn't pay very well i'm afraid
[03:14] <stdin> meson10: as long as you install to a separate root dir then it should be fine
[03:14] <meson10> sehe: i already have kubuntu installed, when i install fedora..i will loose the kubuntu boot-loader right?
[03:14] <jason__10> sehe:  hmm
[03:14] <sehe> stdin: what do you mean?!
[03:14] <meson10> stdin: yes.....i ..but will have a common /homehave a sepearte root
[03:14] <Jisao> not necessarily, meson10.
[03:14] <sehe> stdin: you mean boot partition?
[03:14] <stdin> sehe: just because no one was talking is no excuse to go off topic
[03:14] <Jisao> You can install the mbr in the partition instead of the mbr, then chainload fedora.
[03:14] <sehe> stdin: ic. i'm not to sure that this is clear to the asker tho
[03:14] <meson10> Ok..i explain it in a jist.
[03:14] <stdin> meson10: that should be ok,
[03:15] <meson10> i have sepearet /home.... and a /
[03:15] <sehe> stdin:  ic - i'm relying on my own judgement for lack of IRC experience. No problem in the future
[03:15] <meson10> i have a spare 30 GB..with windows on it
[03:15] <meson10> i need fedora to be installed on 30 Gb..with the same /home
[03:16] <meson10> thats feasibel right?..with both fedora+kubuntu loading?
[03:16] <stdin> sehe: that's why we have the offtopic channel, some people won't ask because they don't want to interrupt general chatter
[03:16] <jason__10> Isn't going off topic okay when you are talking generally? im using kubuntu now, and I want to chat to other kubuntu users to see what they use it for and at the same time help other users with queries.
[03:16] <meson10> sorry i got terminated
[03:16] <sehe> stdin: yeah that makes sense. i'm a single-channel user atm still have to make the leap to multi-channel :D
[03:17] <stdin> jason__10: no, general chatter (even relating to kubuntu) which is not support related goes in #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:17] <runlevelten> jason__10: there's #kubuntu-offtopic :D
[03:17] <jason__10> stdin: ok
[03:17] <jason__10> sorry i didn't realise this was the support channel.
[03:17] <stdin> jason__10: see the topic :p
[03:17] <sehe> meson10: as long as you can handle the partitioning yourself ;) i suppose that would be ok
[03:17] <jason__10> yeah its printed small on my client
[03:18] <sehe> meson10: be careful when mixing diferent versions of KDE though!
[03:18] <sehe> meson10: because the kde config resides in ~/.kde per user, and may not work across versions
[03:18] <Jisao> Speaking of support, is there a place with strong x.org knowledge and Kubuntu? X crash on my hardware with anything else than debian testing and I want to use Kubuntu more regularly.
[03:18] <meson10> sehe: Oops....this one is pretty updated..[kubuntu] 
[03:18] <jason__10> Jisao:  doesn't sound good to me
[03:18] <Jisao> So I have to figure out what causes the crash.
[03:19] <sehe> meson10: i suppose i must say 'major' releases
[03:19] <meson10> sehe: Ok.
[03:19] <jason__10> see you soon,
[03:19] <sehe> meson10: also, a good backup never hurts
[03:19] <sehe> meson10: regulars if you can have it
[03:19] <runlevelten> Yeah, I've been using kde for years, and I never just paste in the user's .kde directory.
[03:20] <runlevelten> Through harsh lessons learned. :\
[03:20] <maverick> how can i execute a "*.run" file?
[03:20] <sehe> runlevelten: i suppose progs will try to remain backwards compatible. as in v2 will run off v1 config, but not vice-versa
[03:20] <maverick> found it
[03:20] <sehe> maverick: k
[03:21] <runlevelten> Yeah. The odd program has borken the configuration horribly, leaving it unusable.
[03:21] <sehe> runlevelten: meson10: and the catch is, new versions will (always?) silently update the configs to the newer format
[03:21] <runlevelten> You could totally switch them using scripts though.
[03:22] <sehe> runlevelten: switching would however mitigate the sharing benefit
[03:22] <sehe> runlevelten: think of mail folders, amarok stuff
[03:22] <runlevelten> indeed, and I think you can change that path anyway.
[03:23] <Jisao> I find that keeping data on a separate partition allows me to have many homes, the data is always available on the extra partition, and no configuration problems in the respective /home(s)
[03:23] <sehe> meson10: you may just start of using a separate home, and see if stuff works by *cloning* the $HOME dir instead of using it directly. That way, you can back out without needing to have a backup
[03:23] <runlevelten> Well I paste in the amarok, kmail, kwallet configs etc.
[03:23] <runlevelten> A script could probably ln them very easily.
[03:23] <sehe> meson10: my advise: use backups and just go for it
[03:23] <sehe> runlevelten: cpio | cpio-l is your friend
[03:23] <meson10> sehe: i cannot afford to lose data, my entire work on kdevelop4 resides here
[03:24] <runlevelten> What I do is move the .kde directory.
[03:24] <sehe> runlevelten: ?
[03:24] <meson10> sehe: so, i need a running kubuntu at any cost.
[03:24] <sehe> runlevelten: as in let it be recreated
[03:24] <runlevelten> prior to running a new KDE I move the directory, let the new KDE do its thing then reuse configs as I want them.
[03:24] <sehe> meson10: i'd say: backups. I hear you wish to share the homes. Just try it out :)
[03:25] <sehe> meson10: if it is not worth the odd complication, donot bother
[03:25] <runlevelten> Again, probably not even necessary now, but I have had KDE apps break files and stuff.
[03:25] <runlevelten> when just reusing the configs directly, because of radically diff versions
[03:26] <sehe> runlevelten: I never take extra precautions when upgrading. When downgrading/sharing however, i do
[03:26] <sehe> runlevelten: and may i mention the backup habit once more. it is a safe safety net
[03:27] <runlevelten> sehe: Precisely. I find that you're best off prepared for 100,000 problems when you didn't need to be, than surprised by one you weren't prepared for
[03:27] <runlevelten> well, maybe not 100,000, :)
[03:28] <sehe> my going rate is one a week
[03:28] <sehe> hardly ever need my backups tho
[03:32] <AhmedShaheen> I want to install amarok-realplayer engine in Amarok
[03:32] <sehe> AhmedShaheen: is there a problem?
[03:32] <AhmedShaheen> how can I do that
[03:32] <AhmedShaheen> I search for a package or Lib but found nothing
[03:32] <sehe> are you sure it is a feature of amarok then?
[03:32] <hydrogen> you probably need to do it manually AhmedShaheen
[03:33] <hydrogen> it doesn't appear that kubuntu packages the amarok-helix engine
[03:33] <hydrogen> err
[03:33] <hydrogen> or maybe its in amarok-engines
[03:33] <sehe> hydrogen:  nope can't find it
[03:33] <AhmedShaheen> i'll try again using amarok0engines
[03:34] <runlevelten> don't search for what you think the package may be called. You'll almost always be wrong.
[03:34] <sehe> runlevelten: are you talking to anyone in specific
[03:35] <AhmedShaheen> I installed a package called amarok-engines
[03:36] <sehe> any luck?
[03:36] <AhmedShaheen> but I didn't found any thing changed in the amarok engine lists
[03:36] <hydrogen> ah
[03:36] <hydrogen> its a meta package
[03:36] <hydrogen> that installs only availible engines
[03:36] <hydrogen> which happens to be only xine on kubuntu
[03:36] <hydrogen> your going to have to build from source
[03:37] <AhmedShaheen> where is the source package
[03:37] <hydrogen> amarok.kde.org
[03:38] <stdin> AhmedShaheen: you can also try asking in #amarok
[03:38] <FallenHitokiri> how can I convert postscript file to pdf?
[03:39] <sehe> FallenHitokiri: ps2pdf
[03:39] <FallenHitokiri> sehe: in which package is it?
[03:39] <llutz> gs-common
[03:39] <FallenHitokiri> thanks
[03:39] <AhmedShaheen> Hydrogen : Do you mean that I must compile and install amarok package itself ?
[03:40] <hydrogen> AhmedShaheen: yes
[03:40] <AhmedShaheen> aha
[03:41] <AhmedShaheen> and then I'll find the amarok-helix engine ?
[03:41] <hydrogen> if you have installed the helix headers
[03:41] <hydrogen> and configure amarok with the --enable-helix option
[03:42] <hydrogen> I think thats right.. do a ./configure --help
[03:42] <AhmedShaheen> ok
[03:42] <FallenHitokiri> ps2pdf segfaults (core dump) :( and if I try to print a pdf with the preinstalled pdf-printer I only get a "Abnormal process termination"
[03:42] <AhmedShaheen> I'll try
[03:49] <maverick> does anyone know "TRUE COMBAT ELITE" game?
[03:49] <BluesKaj> AhmedShaheen, the amarok engine is called xine-engine , which is also used for audio by the kaffeine player
[03:50] <AhmedShaheen> BluesKaj : Thanks , but my problem is playing Realmedia files this amarok
[03:50] <AhmedShaheen> I installed Realplay & Helix
[03:51] <AhmedShaheen> I give xine the codecs path for Realmedia
[03:51] <AhmedShaheen> but xine still not playing realmedia filesd
[03:51] <AhmedShaheen> files*
[03:52] <BluesKaj> usually the helix player runs by itself , not in amarok , from my experience , realplayer is very proprietary
[03:53] <AhmedShaheen> I used  the realplayer engine in amarok before when I was using Fedora
[03:53] <BluesKaj> !helix
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <AhmedShaheen> ok thanks all
[03:56] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: Helix is open source.
[03:56] <runlevelten> ie: the basis of RealPlayer on Linux :)
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yes, but realplayer rm files are coded by realcodecs
[03:57] <AhmedShaheen> yes, but helix can't play realmedia files
[03:57] <Dr_Link> So. How long does the Kubuntu LiveCD (one free disk) usually take to be distributed?
[03:57] <AhmedShaheen> also Realplayer can play MP3
[03:57] <Dr_Link> I'm in the US, living in South Carolina.
[03:57] <runlevelten> AhmedShaheen: I remember discussion of issues with amarok-helix - consider checking that up before you chase it down.
[03:57] <stdin> Dr_Link: few weeks
[03:57] <faires> Does anyone knows how to able soundkonverter to encode mp3 files?
[03:57] <Dr_Link> Assuming about 4-6. right?
[03:58] <faires> Do I have to install other libs, or something alike?
[03:58] <runlevelten> AhmedShaheen: I play all that stuff without amarok-helix.
[03:58] <runlevelten> I have RealPlayer, mind you - it's good software on Linux, NOTHING like on windows.
[03:58] <AhmedShaheen> runlevelten : what's wrong I have made ?
[03:58] <Dr_Link> Somehow, all of the ISOs I do end up being unbootable. I could only get an Ubuntu ISO going. Kubuntu and Fedora? nope. :(
[03:58] <runlevelten> also
[03:58] <runlevelten> !mp3
[03:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <BluesKaj> well, anyone trying deal with realplayer and it's progeny is in for grief using windows or linux IMO :P
[03:59] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: Superstition.
[03:59] <runlevelten> Realplayer is absolutely fine on Linux and has been for years.
[03:59] <runlevelten> No spying, no nasties in startup - it really isn't like the rightly lambasted windows version.
[03:59] <BluesKaj> ok, if you like real-stuff
[04:00] <runlevelten> I wouldn't touch it on windows, and I've actively banned it as an admin on windows.
[04:00] <runlevelten> Conversely, I've been using it to view BBC news on linux for many years.
[04:00] <BluesKaj> II've stayed away from realplayer etc for yrs due it's agressive nature on windows i guess
[04:01] <runlevelten> Of course, why wouldn't you? It's horrendous on windows.
[04:01] <BluesKaj> Yeah, when is the BBC gonna wake up :)
[04:01] <runlevelten> Well to be fair, for years Real was the only real cross-platform and performant streaming solution.
[04:01] <BluesKaj> I do like the BBC  RSS feeds tho
[04:02] <runlevelten> They could have used windows media, but used real instead.
[04:02] <BluesKaj> wonder if konq will play BBC video ?
[04:02] <runlevelten> From a support perspective, I'd have to inform people, realplayer's reputation on windows doesn't inform you about the linux software.
[04:03] <runlevelten> s/inform/tell
[04:04] <faires> Sorry, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, but my soundKonverter still doesn't accept mp3 as "output format"
[04:05] <faires> Does someone knows what esle can I try?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> watching BBC using kaffeine/windows media plugin
[04:05] <pag> faires, you have lame installed?
[04:05] <runlevelten> faires: you need lame
[04:05] <faires> pag: I do think so, but let me check
[04:06] <faires> duh, I hadn't... :(
[04:06] <faires> Sorry
[04:06] <faires> pag runlevelten: thanks a lot...
[04:07] <stdin> faires: I think it also needs ffmpeg
[04:07] <vordme34> Hello, I'm new to Kubuntu and I have a weird problem with adept_installer. It worked fine till now but it says that it's locked .. probably a conflict with apt-get or aptitude?
[04:08] <runlevelten> !adeptfix
[04:08] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:08] <vordme34> thnx guyz!
[04:08] <runlevelten> np :)
[04:08] <runlevelten> !botsnack
[04:08] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:09] <BluesKaj> hehe :)
[04:10] <solarwaver> is anyone knows i set opengl
[04:10] <solarwaver> ?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, BBC seems gives us the option (international visitors) to use the windows media option 9kaffeine
[04:11] <BluesKaj> err kaffeine
[04:12] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: Possibly to be the only option soon, since the BBC became Microsoft salespeople.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> Wow , runlevelten...pushing MS eh
[04:14] <combo> WTF?! i installed ATI drivers from here (http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide); it shows 'Direct Rendering: YES' but it doesn't work anyway :|
[04:14] <solarwaver> is anyone knows i set opengl ?
[04:14] <runlevelten> They're promoting it by requiring it to view content the viewers have already paid for. Disgusting and corrupt, and will hopefully be averted.
[04:15] <runlevelten> Not by the Director General though, since he enjoys being wined and dined by Microsoft in the USA^w9 fact-finding too much.
[04:15] <BluesKaj> similar to the print mags  PC Magazine & PC World content is 99% MS ..very little mention of Linux in either , on which I have let the subscriptions run out.
[04:16] <runlevelten> I don't care. In my country, TV watchers line the pockets of the BBC and pay for their programs, or go to prison.
[04:16] <runlevelten> Anyway.
[04:16] <BluesKaj> ??
[04:16] <BluesKaj> it's that corrupt ?
[04:17] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: You have to pay a TV license by law to watch programs on your telly. The money funds the BBC.
[04:17] <runlevelten> solarwaver: what you need help with?
[04:17] <stdin> stdin@#kubuntu:~$ cat BluesKaj runlevelten | sudo tee -a #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:18] <BluesKaj> the CBC here is gov't funded as well, by our taxes ..and it uses windows media as well
[04:19] <solarwaver> is anyone knows i set opengl ?
[04:19] <runlevelten> solarwaver: what do you mean by "set opengl"?
[04:20] <germaine> hey run   i have donwload flash_player_9_linux.tar  on my desk  how to make   the files is in code source
[04:20] <solarwaver> i have a nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 128 do u know why i can't play 3d games?
[04:20] <germaine> i must the decompressed
[04:21] <runlevelten> germaine: right click and choose "extract here"
[04:22] <runlevelten> solarwaver: can you do glxinfo | grep endor
[04:22] <BluesKaj> germaine , there is a how to here
[04:22] <BluesKaj> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:22] <solarwaver> i do that in console?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:22] <BluesKaj> oops
[04:24] <solarwaver> i do and it said me "mising on display
[04:24] <solarwaver> i do and it said me "mising on display" what is that?
[04:27] <solarwaver> runlevelten i do and it said me "mising on display" what is that?
[04:28] <solarwaver> runlevelten it show me that
[04:28] <solarwaver> lib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:28] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:28] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:28] <solarwaver> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[04:28] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> bash: grependor: command not found
[04:29] <solarwaver> u know how i can fix it?
[04:29] <gilad> Hi, I've got a problem I cant wach DVD on my newly installed Kubuntu. anyone knows how to fix it?
[04:29] <runlevelten> not grependor,
[04:30] <Ahmuck> is there a way to adjust sound levels in kubuntu?
[04:30] <runlevelten> but never mind that
[04:30] <Ahmuck> beyond the mixer?  the mixer is really a low level adjustment
[04:30] <solarwaver> runlevelten i do it now
[04:31] <runlevelten> can you do: grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:31] <solarwaver> i do it now u keep tell me
[04:32] <arun> hello runlevelten
[04:32] <runlevelten> hi arun
[04:32] <solarwaver> it show  me that
[04:32] <BluesKaj> gilad, install, libdvdcss2 and libxine-extracodecs
[04:32] <Arwen> Why am I getting 24MB/s sustained read/write on my Ubuntu partition but 50MB/s sustained read/write on my Windows partition?
[04:32] <solarwaver>  Driver          "nv"
[04:32] <Arwen> I keep hearing about how ext3 is superior to NTFS, so what's the deal?
[04:33] <runlevelten> Right, so you don't have nvidia drivers installed.
[04:33] <runlevelten> !nvidia
[04:33] <gilad> BluesKaj: do it via apt get ?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> gilad, and to cover all the bases install w32codecs as well
[04:33] <solarwaver> i have passed nvidia glx
[04:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:33] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <solarwaver> i have see that
[04:34] <chx_> hi. i have an xmodmap , i put it into /etc/XX/Xmodmap but keys specified there do not work under KDE. Where could I put a script so it's used?
[04:34] <soulrider> hello
[04:34] <runlevelten> solarwaver. Install "restricted-manager" using adept.
[04:34] <arun> is there  a gnome equivalent to korganizer?
[04:34] <gilad> BluesKaj: i'll try - thanx!
[04:34] <solarwaver> ok
[04:34] <soulrider> im trying to update my kernel but initramfs wont configure because i dont have enough space in my partition. is there a way for me to remove my RUNNING kernel so i can configure the new one ?
[04:34] <solarwaver> i do it now and then?
[04:35] <runlevelten> It's done?
[04:35] <runlevelten> solarwaver: You have definitely installed it and finished, yes?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> gilad, make sure your multiverse universe sources are uncommented in the sources.list
[04:35] <runlevelten> solarwaver: right, now press alt F2 and type restricted-manager
[04:36] <pag> soulrider, chroot from livecd maybe?
[04:36] <soulrider> pag: i got a working gentoo installation
[04:36] <contradiction-pi> hi, i have a really bizarre problem with kde on kubuntu 7.04. whenever i go to the System Settings->Monitor & Display and change the resolution, it says that the settings have been changed, and if i'd like to keep them, but it hasn't actually changed the resolution. so, now i'm stuck at 640x480. how do i actually change the res?
[04:36] <soulrider> pag: the problem seems to eb i dont ahve enough space for my current kernel AND the new one at the same time
[04:37] <soulrider> pag: when i dpkg --configure it, do the files generated and that are to be copied remain somewhere? i could boot into gentoo, remove this kernel and forcefuly copy the new one... although it seems like a bad idea
[04:37] <soulrider> hola tombar__, otro de uruguay :)
[04:37] <pag> soulrider, hmm... I dunno then - sounds too complicated for me :/
[04:38] <pag> !fixres | contradiction-pi
[04:38] <ubotu> contradiction-pi: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:38] <soulrider> pag: and how about removing the running kernel? =/ or will that lead to even more issues?
[04:39] <solarwaver> runlevelten i do it
[04:39] <gilad> BluesKaj: I'm sorry but I'm kinda new at this how do I uncomment the multiverse universe sources?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> soulrider, perhaps you should make a choice which distro to use exclusively :)
[04:39] <runlevelten> solarwaver: what did you do, exactly?
[04:39] <soulrider> BluesKaj: i want both :P
[04:39] <solarwaver> i pass restrected manager
[04:39] <runlevelten> pass?
[04:39] <solarwaver> i install it with adept
[04:39] <runlevelten> What do you mean by that?
[04:39] <runlevelten> Right, and now did you run it?
[04:40] <soulrider> BluesKaj: i thought a 32mB partition was gonna be enough for /boot, i never had problems with other distros =/
[04:40] <runlevelten> solarwaver: right, now press alt F2 and type restricted-manager
[04:40] <BluesKaj> gilad, my advice is to use source-o-matic for your sources.list
[04:40] <pag> soulrider, my guess is, that it'll lead to major problems, but I don't really know a thing about kernels, so don't listen to mee too carefully ;)
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | gilad
[04:40] <ubotu> gilad: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:40] <solarwaver> i do it but it said that the prog isn't found
[04:40] <runlevelten> then you didn't install it.
[04:41] <soulrider> pag: i can probably make things work in gutsy now... but whats the fun in running an old kernel? :P
[04:41] <solarwaver> i have to do restart?
[04:41] <soulrider> soulrider: no
[04:41] <runlevelten> solarwaver: what language do you speak really?
[04:41] <gilad> 10x
[04:41] <solarwaver> greek,english
[04:41] <runlevelten> Aha.
[04:41] <runlevelten> !gr
[04:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[04:42] <runlevelten> :)
[04:42] <soulrider> ill try my luck in #ubuntu =/
[04:42] <[cellfrog] > Hi
[04:42] <solarwaver> come on i hate greek in os
[04:42] <[cellfrog] > lol
[04:42] <runlevelten> Well OK. You don't have to restart
[04:43] <runlevelten> You need to check the box next to the app name in adept or synaptic, then apply your changes.
[04:43] <arun> can openoffice open .ksp documents?
[04:43] <arun> (kspread)
[04:43] <runlevelten> Simply selecting it _without_ checking the box will do nothing.
[04:43] <runlevelten> Is that what you've been doing?
[04:43] <tsdgeos> arun: i think it can not, but you can make kspread save to opendocument
[04:43] <[cellfrog] > Is there a net tools suit for linux ?
[04:44] <[cellfrog] > graphical ?
[04:44] <runlevelten> [cellfrog] : Is there ever. What are you trying to do?
[04:45] <runlevelten> solarwaver: copy and paste this into konsole: sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[04:45] <[cellfrog] > Runlevelten: is there ?
[04:45] <runlevelten> [cellfrog] : there are gazillions of network tools. What are you trying to do?
[04:46] <solarwaver> in synaptic it show me installed and in adept
[04:46] <runlevelten> then run it.
[04:46] <[cellfrog] > runlevelten: i ment an all in one ? Thats why i mentioned suit !
[04:47] <runlevelten> Oh, you meant "suite"
[04:47] <runlevelten> I didn't get that, sorry.
[04:47] <runlevelten> [cellfrog] : well, what are you trying to do?
[04:47] <solarwaver> i do it on the console and it show me that
[04:47] <[cellfrog] > :D
[04:48] <[cellfrog] > sorry !
[04:48] <solarwaver> /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:69: GtkWarning: could not open display
[04:48] <solarwaver>   warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
[04:48] <solarwaver> /usr/bin/restricted-manager:243: Warning: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
[04:48] <solarwaver>   xml = gtk.glade.XML("/usr/share/restricted-manager/manager.glade")
[04:48] <solarwaver> /usr/bin/restricted-manager:243: Warning: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
[04:48] <waylandbill_> [cellfrog] : it depends what you want as to what tool to use. The tools are all there, ping, tracert, dig, nslookup... etc...
[04:48] <runlevelten> !flood
[04:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:48] <solarwaver> sorry
[04:48] <solarwaver> what now?
[04:49] <solarwaver> runlevelten
[04:49] <solarwaver> ?
[04:50] <[cellfrog] > waylandbill_:  wanted all that you mentioned plus more all in one gui app.
[04:50] <runlevelten> solarwaver: It's hard to know what's borken without knowing what you've done, and without you really being able to explain it to me... might I respectfully suggest #ubuntu-gr?
[04:51] <malqos> when i write this: sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf  ,  i dont  know why something like  this happend- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35116/  i dont know why this driver doesnt install
[04:51] <malqos> :(
[04:51] <Trist_an> I have a trouble wih kmail
[04:52] <waylandbill_> [cellfrog] : a front-end? I don't know as I don't use one. The right tool for the right job works just fine, so I don't need a front-end to these tools.
[04:52] <Trist_an> it seems that if someone is not in my address list his name is changed to Unkwown, the date to 1970-01-01 and I can't read the mail
[04:54] <waylandbill_> [cellfrog] : if you do some research on networking and specifically the linux tools, these tools will become second nature and you wouldn't have a need for a gui front-end to them either.
[04:55] <voln_> hello, i have trouble with my mp3 library. I uplod mp3 to my flash pleer and order of tracks is not same like in kubuntu
[04:55] <Arwen> Gah, my hard drive is 97% full. This isn't good.
[04:56] <JCDG> voin,explain yur problem again, and tell wich program yu use
[04:56] <voln_> in kubuntu 1,2,3,4 in pleer 3,4,1
[04:56] <voln_> kubuntu
[04:56] <voln_> I'm tranfering trough krusader
[04:57] <tim> hi
[04:57] <tim> im looking for some help please
[04:57] <tim> ive got a dell inpiron 1300 and can't for the life of me get the wireless working any one know how to
[04:57] <[cellfrog] > Waylandbill_: ok.. :/
[04:58] <contradiction-pi> ubotu: whenever i followed the first directions in http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, it says that dpkg-reconfigure was not found
[04:58] <malqos> i would like to install  driver using ndiswrapper but when i write in terminal sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf i see this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35116/
[04:58] <malqos> why?
[04:58] <malqos> how can i install  this?
[04:59] <pag> malqos, remove the ~ from the path
[04:59] <pvdwlaptop> can i upgrade my install to kubuntu from a sidux/debian install ?
[04:59] <tim> well i followed a set of instrutions which told me to uninstall bcm45xx and form then on i cant even get the WL card to turn on
[04:59] <tim> yes you can upgrade it
[05:00] <tim> all you need ot do is download the kde counter parts for unbuntu
[05:00] <malqos> ok
[05:01] <tim> the only difference of unbuntu and kubuntu is that the kunbuntu runs with the kde desktop and has different packages installed for stuff like networking
[05:01] <pier> tracy chapman buddy guy
[05:01] <malqos> pag: still the same sudo ndiswrapper -i/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf
[05:01] <tim> can any one help me with a bcmwl5 problem?
[05:02] <pag> malqos, so the following: sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled\ folder/bcmwl5.inf
[05:02] <pag> s/so/do
[05:02] <tim> nah that dosnt work ive tried
[05:03] <tim> the bcmwl5 is being awkard with me
[05:03] <malqos> thank
[05:03] <malqos> its working
[05:03] <malqos> :)
[05:03] <greenkobold> the respository "http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg" is off today?
[05:05] <tim> so can any one help with a dell laptop problem
[05:07] <lotro> is there a tool where i can adjust the pitch of a song in mp3 format
[05:08] <malqos> and right now i have to copies some filest to this catalog /etc/ndiswrapper but i cant because i dont have permission. how can i copies some file  there?
[05:11] <pvdwlaptop> sudo
[05:14] <jordi> hello, I upgraded my kubuntu 6.06 LTS a few days ago since a long time and a problem with kdebase-data package raised. Does anybody had the same problem or know somwthing about it?
[05:15] <jordi> now I can't install anything cause there arae some dependencies unresolved
[05:17] <jordi> I've tried to install the .deb file with dpkg but dpkg says there is an error with the .deb file
[05:18] <jordi> the problem causes some other issues like my hard-drive becoming a read-only file system
[05:19] <jordi> Anybody has an idea about what's happening?
[05:20] <tsdgeos> jordi: can you paste the error you get exactly?
[05:21] <jordi> is in catalan
[05:21] <tsdgeos> i have no problem with that
[05:21] <hydrogen> export LC_ALL=C
[05:21] <hydrogen> and then get the error again
[05:21] <jordi> ok
[05:22] <tsdgeos> or do what hydrogen says and others will understand it too :D
[05:22] <tsdgeos> besides for pasting
[05:22] <tsdgeos> use http://rafb.net/paste/ please
[05:22] <tsdgeos> or some other paste service
[05:22] <jordi> dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0
[05:22] <jordi> debconf: no s'ha pogut iniciar la interfcie: Kde
[05:23] <jordi> debconf: (DISPLAY problem?)
[05:23] <jordi> debconf: s'est provant ara la interfcie: Dialog
[05:23] <jordi> (S'est llegint la base de dades ... hi ha 127053 fitxers i directoris installats actualment.)
[05:23] <jordi> S'est preparant per a reemplaar kdebase-data 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (fent servir .../kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb) ...
[05:23] <jordi> S'est desempaquetant el reemplaament de kdebase-data ...
[05:23] <jordi> dpkg: s'ha produt un error en processar /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:23] <jordi>  no es pot fer stat sobre ./usr/share/applnk/.hidden/battery.desktop (que s el que s'anava a installar): Input/output error
[05:23] <jordi> dpkg-deb: el subprocs paste fou finalitzat pel senyal (Broken pipe)
[05:23] <jordi> S'han trobat errors en processar:
[05:23] <jordi>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb
[05:23] <jordi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:23] <jordi> this is part of the output
[05:24] <jordi> I'm sorry, i diddn't see the link
[05:24] <tsdgeos> ;-)
[05:25] <tsdgeos> jordi: do you have enough free space?
[05:25] <jordi> Yes
[05:26] <jordi> Now i can't reproduce the error because the drive is read-only
[05:28] <jordi> I will restart
[05:32] <malqos> how can i copy files this file: /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.sys to /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5 using cp?how should look like the whole line?
[05:33] <jordi> sudo cp /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.sys /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5
[05:34] <jordi> I think this is the way
[05:34] <malqos> thanks
[05:34] <malqos> jordi: cp: cannot stat `/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled': No such file or directory
[05:34] <malqos> cp: cannot stat `folder/bcmwl5.sys': No such file or directory
[05:35] <pag> malqos, sudo cp /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled\ folder/bcmwl5.sys /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5
[05:36] <jordi> or have to remove the blankspace between untitled and /folder
[05:37] <jordi> malqos, I think pag is the right way ;)
[05:38] <malqos> yes
[05:38] <pag> "/path/to/directory with spaces/blaah" works too
[05:38] <malqos> its working
[05:38] <malqos> thanks
[05:38] <pag> and using tab-completion saves an effort :)
[05:38] <pag> !tab
[05:38] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[05:39] <jordi> yes, is a very useful tip!
[05:40] <malqos> i need this because i install wifi and when i did that and write ndiswrapper -l i get: bcmwl5 : driver installed / device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) / drivername : invalid driver!
[05:40] <malqos> why drivename is invalid driver?
[05:45] <solarwaver> why restricted manager doesn't play?
[05:55] <Darky> i want to start a second Xserver session with xfce
[05:55] <Darky> I tried "startx -- :2 xfce"
[05:55] <Darky> can anyone help me?
[05:56] <solarwaver> why restricted manager doesn't play?
[05:58] <germaine> who know swiftfox
[05:59] <wastedfluid> hey.. i'm new to kde. I have found .kde/autostart, but where can I put a file to be ran as root?  trying to modprobe ndiswrapper.. if not, my wireless card doesn't work.
[06:01] <Darky> wastedfluid: put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[06:02] <wastedfluid> Darky; hold on, let me look.
[06:02] <an> hey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?
[06:02] <an> hey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?
[06:02] <wastedfluid> Darky; Wow.  much thanks.
[06:03] <an> hello? anyone?
[06:04] <ubuntu> hallo
[06:07] <Lieke> i still cant install kxdocker!
[06:08] <pag> Lieke, tried compiling it already?
[06:10] <an> hey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?
[06:11] <Lieke> compiling?
[06:11] <malqos_> am i on good way to install wifi on my computer? when i write this iwconfig a get: - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35126/
[06:12] <Lieke> pag, i'm realy noob in kubuntu
[06:12] <BluesKaj>  an, there is a power save mode i believe in system settings/monitor & display
[06:13] <an> blueskaj,thanku ,ill check it out
[06:13] <sioux> hi
[06:13] <pag> Lieke, http://pimpyourlinux.com/linux-feature-review/kxdocker-review/ <- those look like a fine insructions
[06:13] <BluesKaj> !compile | Lieke
[06:13] <ubotu> Lieke: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:14] <sioux> is there a italian kubuntu version?
[06:14] <Arwen> !it
[06:14] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:15] <an> blueskaj, u mena laptops&power?
[06:16] <sioux> hey kubuntu-it does not exist
[06:16] <solarwaver> is enyone knows restricted drivers manager?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> an , k-menu/sytem settings/monitor&display/power saving
[06:17] <Arwen> sioux, yeah, it's a redirect. There doesn't seem to be enough kubuntu-it users to merit a separate channel
[06:18] <sioux>  :-S
[06:18] <BluesKaj> solarwaver, sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:18] <an> blueskaj,i got it ,it had been already enabled
[06:19] <BluesKaj> an, suspend , as one does in windows?
[06:19] <BluesKaj> dunno , maybe someone else knows
[06:20] <sioux> kubuntu seems have the fetures to intall all languagge except italian!
[06:20] <an> yea,i remember ubuntu has this function ,but i cant find it in kubuntu when i log out the system
[06:20] <malqos_> am i on good way to install wifi on my computer? when i write this iwconfig a get: - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35126/
[06:21] <BluesKaj> sioux, that's odd ...there must be an italian version
[06:21] <sioux> how is possible add more language to kubuntu?
[06:22] <llutz> sioux: sudo aptitude install language-pack-it kde-i18n-it
[06:22] <sioux> :-)
[06:22] <willwritenow> can i use amsn with kubuntu ?
[06:22] <willwritenow> dapper drake ?
[06:22] <pag> willwritenow, sure you can
[06:23] <willwritenow> which im do you prefer ?
[06:23] <pag> willwritenow, but I warn you: amsn *is* ugly
[06:23] <willwritenow> gaim ? amsn ? or anyother ?
[06:23] <tsdgeos> kopete
[06:23] <pag> willwritenow, I prefer Kopete - it has multiprotocol support and it integrates well with KDE
[06:23] <BluesKaj> sioux, look in system/settings/country/regional&language
[06:23] <willwritenow> do you know kopede does not support foreign chars.
[06:24] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: you are joking, right?
[06:24] <willwritenow> even i m using english chars it does not let me to login cause at my pass there is some foreign words :)
[06:24] <willwritenow> no really i m not joking.
[06:24] <willwritenow> i have kubuntu ( english ) ..
[06:24] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: which protocol?
[06:24] <willwritenow> msn
[06:24] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: have you filed a bug?
[06:24] <arun> what is the /opt folder meant for?
[06:25] <Arwen> OPTional software
[06:25] <willwritenow> no .. now i m trying to find amsn
[06:25] <Arwen> stuff that's installed by the user
[06:25] <pag> !info amsn dapper | willwritenow
[06:25] <arun> ah.. thanks Arwen
[06:25] <ubotu> willwritenow: amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[06:25] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: can i know exactly which foreign chars do you use? no need to tellme the full pwd
[06:26] <willwritenow> i with upper case.
[06:26] <tsdgeos> I ?
[06:26] <willwritenow> with dot.
[06:26] <tsdgeos> turkish?
[06:26] <willwritenow> :)
[06:26] <willwritenow> how do you know ?
[06:27] <tsdgeos> well, i got some patch for fonts i mantain to add that characters from a turkish dude
[06:27] <willwritenow> where are you orinally from ?
[06:27] <tsdgeos> catalonia
[06:27] <willwritenow> *originally
[06:27] <willwritenow> i see..
[06:27] <tsdgeos> 
[06:27] <tsdgeos> :D
[06:28] <willwritenow> ehhehe :) yeap that's it :)
[06:28] <llutz>  i
[06:28] <willwritenow> :)
[06:28] <willwritenow> llutz:  :) where re u from ?
[06:28] <llutz> germany
[06:29] <willwritenow> u also worked about turkish chars before ?
[06:29] <llutz> no never, i just was wondering where to find that cahr (never had seen it before)
[06:29] <willwritenow> tsdgeos:  how do you find updated librarys for kubuntu packages ?
[06:30] <willwritenow> llutz:  so how did you type it ?
[06:30] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: you update from daper to something else
[06:30] <llutz> kcharselect did the job (copy/paste)
[06:30] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: i'm trying to setup a dummy account at hotmail and if i put a  it tells me the password has not valid characters
[06:31] <willwritenow> tsdgeos:  i mean i cant find some libraries easily.. i think thats because of the sourse.list file.
[06:31] <willwritenow> tsdgeos:  u dont need to do that :) .. maybe thats coz of my luck :)
[06:31] <willwritenow> llutz:  good job :)
[06:36] <willwritenow> anyone knows how to find good libraries for packages to add in sources.list file. ??
[06:37] <pag> !easysources | willwritenow
[06:37] <ubotu> willwritenow: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:38] <willwritenow> thank you ubotu .. will check it now..
[06:38] <willwritenow> pag what do you mean with easysources ?
[06:39] <pag> !ubotu | willwritenow, maybe that'll explain what I mean
[06:39] <ubotu> willwritenow, maybe that'll explain what I mean: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:39] <Lieke> yes i compiled pag
[06:39] <willwritenow> ahaha :)
[06:40] <willwritenow> god .. :) i luv bots :)
[06:40] <Lieke> pag, it still ain't working
[06:40] <Lieke> willwritenow: , wy?
[06:41] <willwritenow> as you see if that would not help .. none of the human beings are helpin :P
[06:41] <pag> Lieke, ok.. I'm out of ideas then.. sorry.
[06:41] <Erwin> i just got in. what's the problem?
[06:42] <Lieke> allright, pag thnx for helping anyway ^^
[06:42] <Lieke> Erwin, i cant install kxdocker
[06:43] <runlevelten> !info kxdocker
[06:43] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[06:43] <willwritenow> opss i have another question .. is it possible to use guarddog at kubuntu ?
[06:43] <runlevelten> why can't you install it?
[06:43] <Lieke> because it chrashes
[06:44] <runlevelten> Installation crashes, or kxdocker crashes?
[06:44] <_wintermute_> anyone running glx with an i810 chipset
[06:44] <Lieke> kxdocker
[06:45] <_wintermute_> or should i uninstall glx and go with aiglx
[06:45] <runlevelten> Ah, so you can install it. :) Now, did it crash always, or only after you configured it?
[06:45] <runlevelten> and also, did it crash immediately the very first time you ran it?
[06:45] <Lieke> yes, runlevelten, it chrashed the first time
[06:45] <combo> - can someone help with :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35124/ :: no acceleration :(
[06:46] <pag> runlevelten, iirc the packaged version has some major flaws, that prevent it from even launching correctly
[06:46] <runlevelten> Lieke: have you tried kooldock?
[06:46] <Lieke> no
[06:46] <runlevelten> Well try that instead first :)
[06:46] <Lieke> what's kooldock?
[06:46] <runlevelten> !info kooldock
[06:46] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[06:47] <soulrider> hello
[06:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> apparently i did something unpleasant.
[06:47] <soulrider> Daisuke-Ido,  :(
[06:47] <Lieke> alright
[06:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> because now my only options for cpu speed are 2.00ghz and 1.60ghz
[06:47] <runlevelten> pag: to be honest, kxdocker is unstable anyway, so I doubt it's a big hit if the package is borked, heh
[06:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> it *claims* i have stepping from 800mhz to 2.0 ghz
[06:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> but nooo
[06:48] <willwritenow> heyy Do you use any firewall on kubuntu ?
[06:48] <pag> runlevelten, yup :)
[06:48] <pag> !firewall
[06:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:49] <willwritenow> thanx again pag..
[06:49] <runlevelten> the packager probably saves people the bother, ha.
[06:49] <pag> willwritenow, default settings should be ok for most of the users :)
[06:49] <Lieke> runlevelten, i installed kooldock, but how do i have to open it? i have to go to the edge of the bottom of my screen and click on my right mouse... eum nothing seems to happen :s
[06:50] <runlevelten> did you run it?
[06:50] <soulrider> guys, im trying to enable bash colors for all users, it works fine, except i have to do source /etc/profile everytime I open a new terminal to see the colors. is there any way for me or any other user to not have to type this ?
[06:50] <willwritenow> i also wanna use guarddog..
[06:50] <Lieke> oh it works!
[06:50] <Lieke> joepie ^^
[06:51] <runlevelten> Heh, in front of me I have kiba-dock, ksmoothdock, kooldock and kxdocker. Which to play with?
[06:51] <runlevelten> Support question, honest.
[06:51] <Lieke> runlevelten, do i still have to install kxdocker now?
[06:52] <runlevelten> Lieke: Nope.
[06:52] <pag> runlevelten, isn't Kicker an option? :)
[06:52] <Lieke> and how do i remove my old docker?
[06:52] <runlevelten> kicker's functional. scaley docky things are for playing with :)
[06:53] <pag> runlevelten, but to your question; if you want to play: kiba-dock  if you want something more or less usable: ksmoothdock :)
[06:53] <runlevelten> I don't use the dock even on OS X really, but I've never tried kiba-dock.
[06:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> avant-window-navigator
[06:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> quite lovely
[06:56] <pag> Daisuke_Laptop, does it work well with KDE?
[06:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> eh
[06:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> define "work well"
[06:56] <paritosh1010> adept keeps saying another package managing software is running
[06:57] <runlevelten> For a dock: shows shortcuts. Shows running applications. Allows arbitrary apps/windows to be "docked" in it.
[06:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> for the most part
[06:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> i didn't have any problems
[06:57] <runlevelten> like alltray, so when you close the app with the windec close button it just minimises to the dock.
[06:58] <pag> Daisuke_Laptop, somehow I just had a memory that AWN looked awful and didn't recognise most of the apps :O
[06:58] <runlevelten> Yeah, I had a memory of it being very 2d and pixellated.. sort of gnomey.
[06:59] <paritosh1010> adept keeps saying another package manager is running. maybe its the adept-updater, so i closed the adept manager and used the adept-updater. same thing. how do i close these things??!!
[06:59] <paritosh1010> i even restarted
[06:59] <pag> !aptfix | paritosh1010
[06:59] <ubotu> paritosh1010: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:01] <paritosh1010> pag: thanks
[07:01] <paritosh1010> pag: does that mean some package is broken?
[07:02] <ubuntu> hello
[07:02] <pag> paritosh1010, nope.. it usually just means that adept doesn't work as expected
[07:02] <paritosh1010> pag: it gave an error couldnt install tomcat5.5 before it crashed
[07:02] <paritosh1010> pag: something like could not commit charges
[07:02] <pag> paritosh1010, those errors come once in a while - you'll have to get used to them (or dump the adept; it's a smart choise :)
[07:03] <pag> paritosh1010, did " sudo dpkg --configure -a " return any errors?
[07:03] <paritosh1010> pag: yeah
[07:04] <paritosh1010> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:04] <paritosh1010>  tomcat5.5
[07:04] <pag> paritosh1010, pastebin the whole output ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )
[07:04] <paritosh1010> !pastebin
[07:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:05] <paritosh1010> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35139/
[07:07] <noni> Hello
[07:07] <pag> isn't JDK a java-thingy?
[07:07] <paritosh1010> pag: yeah
[07:07] <noni> i cant get myth installed backend....
[07:07] <pag> paritosh1010, you have java installed and configured?
[07:07] <pag> !java | paritosh1010
[07:07] <ubotu> paritosh1010: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:07] <paritosh1010> pag: yeah, well i installed it after tomcat
[07:07] <paritosh1010> so i should try installing tomcat again?
[07:08] <pag> paritosh1010, try removing tomcat and installing it again
[07:08] <paritosh1010> pag: ok. thanks
[07:11] <paritosh1010> pag: why does it keep saying there was an error committing charges
[07:11] <Lieke> how do i change the pictograms of kooldock?
[07:11] <greenday_> hey i m using automatix and it was stopped while it was installing java for firefox :) another bug. - cant say " accept " and its waiting :)
[07:11] <paritosh1010> pag: changes*
[07:11] <NickPresta> !automatix
[07:11] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:11] <pag> paritosh1010, try sudo dpkg -r tomboy
[07:12] <paritosh1010> pag: it isnt installed
[07:12] <paritosh1010> tomcat u mean?
[07:12] <pag> paritosh1010, yeah, sorry :P
[07:13] <paritosh1010> pag: synaptic is less buggy
[07:13] <Lieke> how do i change icons of kooldock?
[07:14] <pag> paritosh1010, yup. and apt is rock solid :)
[07:14] <paritosh1010> apt is cl though isnt it?
[07:14] <pag> Lieke, umm.. right click -> edit?
[07:14] <pag> paritosh1010, yes it is :)
[07:14] <greenday_> hey i have installed firefox by using automatix but cant work it :( ..
[07:15] <greenday_> any commands for firefox to work ?
[07:15] <Lieke> yes, but does the image can be .jpg?
[07:15] <BluesKaj> greenday_, type firefox in the konsole
[07:15] <pag> Lieke, .jpg doesn't always work.. try .png instead
[07:15] <Lieke> tnx pag :)
[07:16] <greenday_> BluesKaj: its says " command not found " also automatix says " firefox was installed " ..
[07:16] <BluesKaj> relogin greenday_
[07:16] <Artimus> Has anyone used Guarddog before?  I've always used iptables by hand.  Any "gotchas" for an advanced iptables user?  My Kubuntu box isn't plugged in at the moment, I'll be trying it out tonight.
[07:17] <BluesKaj> !automatix | greenday_
[07:17] <ubotu> greenday_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:17] <Lieke> pag, doesn't work neither :(
[07:18] <BluesKaj> greenday_, firefox is in the adept pkg manager, that's how you should install it
[07:18] <pag> Lieke, dunno then.. I'm not familiar with docks :\
[07:18] <Lieke> nvm ^^
[07:19] <greenday_> BluesKaj:  thanx .. now i m trying to install it again by using pkg manager.
[07:19] <greenday_> btw i dont prefer automatix .. .
[07:19] <BluesKaj> you don't need automatix
[07:20] <greenday_> it has some options like installing java support .. etc for firefox.. coz of that i hv used it.
[07:20] <greenday_> but problems :)
[07:20] <BluesKaj> you can install java with adept too
[07:20] <greenday_> 'll try :)
[07:25] <elvirolo2> hi all
[07:25] <combo> the active partition is called primary, isn't it ? :] 
[07:26] <elvirolo2> i have a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG wifi card, and it used to be detected (as eth1) but now it isn't anymare
[07:27] <paritosh1010> pag: how do you clean an unclean installation
[07:27] <pag> paritosh1010, huh?  sudo apt-get remove --purge packege  ?
[07:27] <joey382> what's the easiest way to recursively download all of the files on a romote server? when I ftp my server and mget it only gets all the files without getting the sud directories
[07:28] <joey382> sub**
[07:28] <paritosh1010> pag: well, sudo apt-get install keeps saying theres stuff to install. but sudo apt-get remove foo says foo isnt installed
[07:28] <arun> I have downgraded one of my packages (ttf-dejavu). Ubuntu keeps telling me to upgrade it, can i disable the upgrading alerts just for this package?
[07:29] <pag> paritosh1010, care to pastebin the output of both?
[07:29] <pag> arun, apt-get hold package  maybe?
[07:29] <paritosh1010> pag: ok. its finally worked. sorry :D
[07:30] <arun> pag: you sure?
[07:30] <pag> arun, nope.. (and there's not such option :( )
[07:31] <pag> arun, maybe some dpkg's option?
[07:31] <arun> pag: ah alright.. so is there any way i can hold it?
[07:31] <elkin> spooles, install?
[07:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's official, i'man idiot, thank you.
[07:32] <pag> arun, there's dpkg --force-hold  but I'm not sure if that's the one
[07:32] <arun> hmm
[07:33] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, who called you an idiot ? :)
[07:34] <arun> thanks pag
[07:35] <Ennui> Hello all...I have a question.  I'm trying to set up file sharing.  I have samba installed, but when I go to the sharing system settings applet it still says I need to install the smb and nfs servers.  Is that another package?  I can't seem to find it.
[07:38] <maverick> enemy territory...anyone played it?
[07:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> BluesKaj: i did.
[07:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> was wondering why i couldn't switch power management modes.
[07:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> i was on AC power.
[07:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> anyway, i'm gone for now
[07:40] <BluesKaj> Ennui, smb server is aka samba , you can ainstall samba andd smb client with adept or synaptic or apt if you wish
[07:41] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, uhhm...ok :)
[07:42] <Ennui> Thanks blues...actually I just found the answer before you said it...I did an upgrade to feisty and this was a known issue.  You have to use apt as adept doesn't uninstall everything you need...then you can resinstall it.
[07:42] <BluesKaj> well, time to wax the vehicle ...bbl
[07:43] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just tried to install KDE4 base with adept manager, but it wont, it tells me there is a problem, and after that, I see KDE4 base and KDE4 admin as BROKEN.. How can I get some more info on it, why did it fail, etc?
[07:44] <phoenixz> Or.. How can I find out WHY trying a to install package in adept manager fails? It only tells me that it fails, and then that its BROKEN.. but it does not tell me why..
[07:44] <Lynoure> phoenixz: Those are not even in standard feisty repositories, I think...
[07:46] <phoenixz> Lynoure, dunno.. but the point is: I try to install it, and adept manager says there is "an error".. thats like a windows message, something went wrong.. okay, great, but WHAT went wrong? if I know that, I might be able to fix it
[07:46] <phoenixz> Lynoure, no flame intended by the way..
[07:47] <mdr> whats the linux equivalent ipconfig /release /renew
[07:47] <phoenixz> mdr ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[07:48] <llutz> mdr: sudo dhclient3 <iface>
[07:51] <d03boy> wireless assistant is sucking
[07:51] <d03boy> it wont connect to my wep ap
[07:51] <|biovore|> knetworkmanger
[07:52] <knulfine> can someone give me the link for the german chan
[07:52] <knulfine> ?
[07:52] <llutz> !de
[07:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:52] <knulfine> thx
[07:53] <Lynoure> phoenixz: I meant that it's really hard to help you without knowing where your packages are from. I don't know how to get adept to be more verbose, but apt-get and aptitude have verbose flags, I think
[07:53] <phoenixz> Lynoure, Ah, then I can try those
[08:01] <esra_> hey from turkey
[08:04] <esra_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:05] <esra_> is there anybody ?
[08:06] <tsdgeos> there is
[08:07] <Level15> hey
[08:07] <Level15> dumb question...
[08:07] <esra_> hi
[08:07] <esra_> i'm esin
[08:07] <esra_> from turkey
[08:07] <Level15> my ktorrent's info bar (the thing below showing me the files, peers, etc) for each torrent disappeared... any idea how to get it back?
[08:09] <drif> Level15: did you happen to resize it?
[08:09] <Level15> drif i thought so, but no, it's not down there hiding...
[08:10] <phoenixz> I just installed KDE4 with adept manager, but it does not show up in my login screen.. What package do I have to install do that I can select KDE4 in my login screen?
[08:11] <drif> Level15: I'd still try - it took me several tries before it catched/snapped the right position
[08:11] <Level15> drif: hm, ok, i'll try it a little bit more...
[08:13] <drif> Level15: screen capture might help to estimate your situation
[08:14] <phoenixz> Do I have to configure something special to use KDE4?
[08:14] <Level15> drif: ok, sec
[08:15] <Level15> !pastebin
[08:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:17] <amnesiac_hackers> hai folks
[08:18] <phoenixz> hi
[08:18] <amnesiac_hackers> hi poenix
[08:18] <drif> anyone here with HP w2207 sitting on desk?
[08:19] <amnesiac_hackers> not me diff
[08:19] <amnesiac_hackers> damn somebody stole my nick
[08:20] <amnesiac_hackers> hmm
[08:20] <logixoul> how do I disable the folder entering zoom-feedback in konq?
[08:20] <phoenixz> Anyone here who could help with getting KDE4 to work? I already installed it, but how can I login with KDE4??
[08:22] <c0demonkeys> out of here see ya all later
[08:22] <Jahman> hi
[08:23] <intelikey> network hardware issue    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39189
[08:23] <intelikey> network hardware issue    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39189
[08:23] <intelikey> anyone know what i missed ?
[08:24] <Level15> intelikey: sure it's eth1? try ifconfig -a
[08:25] <drif> intelikey: what makes it eth1?
[08:25] <intelikey> sorry ?   doesn't that assume /etc/network/interfaces is configured ?
[08:26] <intelikey> drif the fact that i'm talking to you on eth0  ???
[08:26] <drif> intelikey: or did you grep those lsmod and lspci?
[08:26] <phoenixz> After my last adept full upgrade, firefox won't start anymore.. Anything I can do to find out why?
[08:26] <intelikey> only two eth  one onboard and one card   i'm talking on the onboard and i assume the card is eth1
[08:27] <Bauldrick> ktorrent is really slow have ports open what else?
[08:28] <intelikey> leve|15 OK I see what -a is supposed to do...  and no it's not listed.
[08:28] <BluesKaj> Bauldrick, check the DL rate settings
[08:28] <drif> Bauldrick: bad trackers?
[08:29] <logixoul> Guys, how do I disable the effect on opening a folder in Konqueror?
[08:29] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39190
[08:30] <Bauldrick> blues > I had set max up/download the wrong way round?!! still not very quick though
[08:30] <megalomaniac> on one machine i have this problem on another i dont:
[08:30] <megalomaniac> while compiling i receive this message: checking version of gcc... 4.1.2, bad
[08:31] <megalomaniac> i need gcc3.3 which has been installed...
[08:31] <megalomaniac> do i need a pointer somewhere
[08:31] <phoenixz> Anyone who could help me with a dead firefox after a full upgrade with adept?
[08:32] <Level15> phoenixz: what do you get after yourun firefox on konsole?
[08:34] <phoenixz> Level15, tried it.. nothing.. just type firefox, enter.. and then nothing.. the cursor just waits on the the next line
[08:34] <Level15> hey, anyone got a kde update yesterday and now ktorrent doesn't show some info down?
[08:34] <intelikey> sounds like it's opening off screen
[08:35] <phoenixz> intelikey, You are talking about FF?
[08:35] <intelikey> is there a ff itom in the task list    yes   maximize it
[08:35] <Level15> phoenixz: i'd recommend you check for stalled firefox processes, kill them if necessary, then run it again. if it doesn't work, try moving your .firefox dir to .firefox.old and run again
[08:35] <phoenixz> Level15, Already done that.. kill -9 `pgrep firefox`
[08:36] <Level15> phoenixz: what about damaged profile?
[08:36] <phoenixz> Level15, and moving the .firefox dir is like loosing everything, bookmarks, plugins, etc?
[08:36] <phoenixz> Level15, How could I check that?
[08:36] <intelikey> phoenixz yes ^
[08:36] <Level15> phoenixz: yeah
[08:37] <phoenixz> Is there a way to see what caused the problem?
[08:37] <brycew> Can someone please help me with mounting my external hard drive?
[08:37] <Lynoure> phoenixz: yes, but if it helps, you can move them back bit by bit
[08:38] <Lynoure> phoenixz: yes, there are ways, but most find them confusing. Ever used strace?
[08:38] <phoenixz> Lynoure, Nope.. but there is always a time to start :)
[08:38] <intelikey> s/l trace
[08:39] <phoenixz> but let me start with just moving files then..
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> brycew: yep.. just say the problem
[08:39] <megalomaniac> brycew : use the mount command in terminal
[08:39] <brycew> I'm trying to use what I was told the original time..... sudo pmount /dev/sda1 and it usually pulls it up, but today its saying mount point auto does not exist :S
[08:40] <evgen> hi all
[08:41] <llutz> brycew: create it then and don't use sudo with pmount
[08:41] <Lynoure> phoenixz: I'm a bit tired to explain it (getting late here), but basicly, start firefox with   strace -s 100 -f firefox   and see where it gets stuck  (pastebin if needed)
[08:41] <brycew> so just go pmount /dev/sda1?
[08:41] <logixoul> Guys, how do I disable the effect on opening a folder in Konqueror?
[08:42] <BluesKaj> logixoul, 'effect' ?
[08:42] <brycew> Using "pmount /dev/sda1" informs me that "only root can mount /dev/sda1 on auto"
[08:43] <logixoul> BluesKaj: the icon quickly zooms in before entering the folder
[08:43] <phoenixz> Lynoure, actually.. just moved the .mozilla dir.. and it still doesnt start.. Guess the install is damaged or someting
[08:43] <llutz> brycew: so you have a fstab-entry for sda1?
[08:43] <Lynoure> phoenixz: that's more reason to trace, not less, but you can opt to reinstall first, if you feel like it
[08:43] <brycew> llutz: I don't even know what that is lol
[08:43] <phoenixz> Lynoure, I'll try that, would be easier
[08:45] <Lynoure> phoenixz: tracing is not difficult, intepreting the results can be
[08:45] <phoenixz> Lynoure, That, I do know :)
[08:45] <jordi__> How do I do to have klipper started everytime I switch on my machine?
[08:46] <logixoul> jordi__: open klipper and quit it. You will be asked if you want it to autostart
[08:46] <Arwen> on Linux, I can create an ISO from a CD by just using dd, right?
[08:46] <BluesKaj> logixoul, try system settings/appearance/advanced/set effect
[08:47] <jordi__> ok logixoul, I've done it. Now i will reboot and inform about;-)
[08:47] <brycew> The other day I asked in here why my pmount wasn't mounted everytime I started up my computer, I had to run the pmount command to get my external hard drive to register everytime I start up.  Asked how I could get it mounted everytime and someone told me to go to "System Settings" and then to "Disk & Filesystems", click "USB Partition" and mount it in the "media/sda1", enable, save, and it will run everytime I start my computer.... But I
[08:47] <brycew> shutdown yesterday, started up today adn now I can't get my external hard drive to open no matter what :-S
[08:47] <logixoul> BluesKaj: nope, that's just the colorization
[08:47] <BluesKaj> gotta go ...bbl
[08:48] <logixoul> see ya BluesKaj
[08:49] <phoenixz> Lynoure, Reinstall did it.. I'll try that strace some time later... Thanks!
[08:50] <brycew> Can someone please help me with my External Hard Drive problem???
[08:50] <logixoul> brycew: Just state the problem!!!
[08:50] <Lynoure> phoenixz: it's quite fun. Using it is a bit like having an ant terrarium. =)
[08:51] <phoenixz> Lynoure, by god, why didn't you say so before? :)
[08:51] <brycew> I cannot get my external hard drive to open up using the mount command... I was told to oepn it using "pmount /dev/sda1" so I can listen to my music on it, but it's saying mount not found :S
[08:53] <Lynoure> phoenixz: well, nothing stopping you from using it on whatever, but programs that hang are by far most satistying :)
[08:53] <jordi__> hey logixoul, the klipper issue is resolved, precious innformation!!! :-))
[08:54] <logixoul> hehe :)
[08:54] <phoenixz> Lynoure, I'll be sure to use that more on problematic programs yeah
[08:54] <logixoul> jordi__: btw, you didn't really need to reboot - you could've simply logged out and then in ;)
[08:55] <jordi__> Sure, one more experience in my life
[08:56] <brycew> Can someone Please help me with my above question?
[08:57] <cloakable> !patience | brycew
[08:57] <ubotu> brycew: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:57] <logixoul> brycew: what's the EXACT error msg?
[08:58] <intelikey> brycew being usb it's probably not sda this time   try sdb1
[08:58] <brycew> "mount point does not exist" but every other day I've been able to use the command and now it doesn't work :S
[08:59] <brycew> intelikey: device "pmount /dev/sdb1/" does not exist.
[08:59] <intelikey> brycew ok     cat /proc/partitions
[09:00] <intelikey> don't flood    just look for a sd   something in there
[09:00] <logixoul> brycew: there's difference between /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb1/ - use the former.
[09:00] <intelikey> ah good eye logixoul
[09:00] <brycew> didn't work logixoul
[09:00] <logixoul> 8)
[09:00] <logixoul> 8(
[09:01] <brycew> intelikey: I did the command you said... gave me a list of things
[09:01] <logixoul> brycew: same error msg?
[09:02] <intelikey> brycew yes look through the list    find the partition you want and mount it
[09:02] <brycew> intelikey: Nope... it gave me .... "Major minor #blocks name" with a list of different partitions? below.
[09:02] <brycew> there's an sda and sda1
[09:02] <intelikey> ok sda1 is the partition
[09:02] <intelikey> now   ls /media
[09:03] <intelikey> that's   lower case L S
[09:03] <intelikey> is there any sda1 in there ?
[09:03] <brycew> wouldn't I type ls /media/sda1?
[09:03] <intelikey> no
[09:03] <intelikey>  ls /media
[09:03] <brycew> yes there is sda1
[09:04] <intelikey> ok    pmount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[09:04] <intelikey> what does that say ?
[09:04] <brycew> type all that in there, space between sda1 /media?
[09:04] <intelikey> yes
[09:05] <brycew> It says the following:...
[09:06] <brycew> "Warning: device /dev/sda1 is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored."......."mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on auto"
[09:06] <intelikey> ok looks like fstab is hosed     pastebin your /etc/fstab
[09:06] <intelikey> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:07] <Sheling> Evening, all.
[09:07] <brycew> so what exactly do I do then?
[09:07] <intelikey> you can display it with     cat /etc/fstab      then copy and paste into a pastebin page
[09:07] <brycew> ok
[09:08] <intelikey> then give us the url it gives you   so we can view it.
[09:08] <brycew> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35155/
[09:08] <brycew> That's really cool intelikey thanks for telling me about that pastebin lol
[09:09] <intelikey> brycew ok line eleven  reads "/dev/sda1  auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0"  should be  "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0"
[09:09] <Sheling> Can I bother someone for some advice / instructions on how to get any kind of internet radio software working on KDE?
[09:10] <intelikey> brycew kdesu kate /etc/fstab      and fix it
[09:10] <Sheling> (Apologies for interrupting)
[09:10] <intelikey> Sheling just ask and if anyone present can answer they will
[09:10] <template_editor>    ?
[09:11] <Sheling> Cool - thank you.
[09:11] <logixoul> template_editor: I can't read what you wrote
[09:11] <flexi-spec> it was in russian
[09:11] <logixoul> template_editor: try English
[09:11] <logixoul> ah
[09:11] <template_editor> bugaga you should not see that gg
[09:11] <brycew> intelikey: It opened a new window, "fstab [modified]  - Kate" and ran a whole bunch of commands (or something) in my terminal after I typed it.
[09:12] <Sheling> In short, I've been on KDE for 8 months, and love it. But have been invited to DJ for an online station that uses SAM to a Shoutcast server. I've tried Darkice, IceCast and Muse - I don't know enough to know where I'm going wrong, and I refuse to shift back to XP just for this one single purpose (and live without Amarok!)
[09:12] <template_editor> anybody know how i can patch kde on frebsd?
[09:12] <intelikey> brycew ?
[09:12] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[09:12] <intelikey> ???
[09:13] <brycew> Yes, I typed that in just like that
[09:13] <Sheling> If someone wants to field this in a side channel or over Skype, I'd be hugely grateful.
 are u kidding?
[09:13] <brycew> Now the last line in the terminal says "kbuildsycoca running..." and a new window popped up called "fstab - kate" with a bunch of text in the window that I can modify
[09:13] <Distro^Junkie> well so far so good for installation of 7.10
[09:14] <Distro^Junkie> doing updates right now
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[09:14] <intelikey> brycew and it did what ?   it should have opened a dialog asking for password  "or not"   and then opened the editor "kate" with the fstab file loaded into it
[09:14] <Lynoure> template_editor: ask on #kde or #freebsd if you are not kidding, this channel is for kubuntu support
[09:14] <brycew> Yes, it did just that.
[09:15] <logixoul> or #kde-freebsd :)
[09:15] <brycew> intelikey: It did it all... now I have that kate window open
[09:15] <blekos> hi, is there an equivelant for acdsee?
[09:15] <flexi-spec> or #anime )))
[09:15] <logixoul> :p
[09:15] <template_editor> or may be #kde-frebsd-ktulhu-question ?
[09:15] <intelikey> brycew and you corrected the mistake in line 11 ?
[09:15] <logixoul> blekos: ShowFoto, Digikam, GwenView, Kuickshow
[09:15] <brycew> OK... doing that now
[09:16] <logixoul> blekos: http://osalt.com
[09:16] <blekos> thnx
[09:16] <brycew> OK... copy and pasted over the line that was wrong... what do I do now, save?
[09:16] <logixoul> np
[09:17] <Distro^Junkie> anyone here running 7.10 test 5 ?
[09:17] <intelikey> brycew yes save and exit
[09:17] <NickPresta> Distro^Junkie, #kubuntu+1
[09:17] <Distro^Junkie> brb
[09:17] <NickPresta> !gutsy | Distro^Junkie
[09:17] <ubotu> Distro^Junkie: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:17] <intelikey> brycew and pmount should now work
[09:17] <Distro^Junkie> thanx NickPresta
[09:17] <bauer> Howto install libXext on my pretty new ubuntu ?-)
[09:18] <NickPresta> !info libXext
[09:18] <ubotu> Package libxext does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:18] <brycew> intelikey: so now I type in pmount /dev/sda1/ and it says error, device does not exist.
[09:18] <intelikey> brycew yes...                   ok now back to my own issue...
[09:18] <template_editor> linux suxx ,windows forever, bye loosers
[09:19] <logixoul> haha
[09:19] <drif> yeah long live vista and prosper..lol
[09:19] <NickPresta> how sad...
[09:19] <logixoul> we didn't see THAT coming... ;)
[09:19] <drif> I think vista has done us favour :D people from right and left are fleeing to *nix direction
[09:20] <llutz> drif: that's not a favour
[09:21] <brycew> intelikey: OK... I got the external hard drive pmount to show up on the desktop, but when I click the icon it says "Unable to enter file:///media/sda1.  You do not have access rights to this location"
[09:22] <intelikey> brycew ok it's vfat or ntfs ?
[09:22] <brycew> intelikey: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're asking.
[09:22] <Distro^Junkie> brycew: what format is the windows partition in ?
[09:23] <Distro^Junkie> is it ntfs or fat32 ?
[09:23] <brycew> I think ntfs?
[09:23] <Distro^Junkie> if you did a default install for xp then it would be ntfs
[09:24] <brycew> Yes, I did Distro.
[09:24] <intelikey> brycew edit the fstab again and make line eleven look like this   "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto user,users,atime,noauto,rw,dmask=022,fmask=133 0 0"
[09:24] <brycew> intelikey: I guess it's ntsf then :D
[09:24] <Distro^Junkie> ok that's what intelikey was wondering
[09:24] <brycew> OK... I'll try again lol
[09:24] <Distro^Junkie> sometimes we forget to speak layman terms in here so the newbies can understand
[09:25] <Sheling> Is there anyone active at the mo who live streams to a server at all?
[09:25] <intelikey> then umount it and mount it again  should give everyone read access and you only write access   but if it's ntfs you probably don't want to be writing to it without ntfs-3g
[09:25] <intelikey> @ brycew  ^
[09:26] <intelikey> !info ntfs-3g | brycew
[09:26] <ubotu> brycew: ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[09:26] <brycew> How do I unmount?
[09:26] <Distro^Junkie> umount
[09:26] <brycew> ty
[09:26] <intelikey> Distro^Junkie yeah that's what i said
[09:26] <Distro^Junkie> np
[09:26] <BluesKaj> drif, even the outgoing editor of PC Magazine slammed vista for it's dumb architecture and lack backward compatability with previous windows apps..he actaully said he was seriously considering Linux.
[09:26] <Distro^Junkie> lol he must not of seen it
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[09:27] <Distro^Junkie> as long as he fixes it thats kewl
[09:27] <Distro^Junkie> we all one big community of family
[09:27] <Distro^Junkie> we the anti windows family lol
[09:28] <intelikey> we is all L-users here mate
[09:28] <brycew> intelikey: I am sorry if I'm frustrating you... I'm new to all this... If helping me is interupting something you're trying to do, I can wait for help from someone else... I really do appreciate your assistance this far tho!
[09:29] <BluesKaj> not anti windows , just pro Linux
[09:29] <intelikey> that sounds like the "but what do i do now"  should be the next line    lol
[09:29] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[09:29] <intelikey> brycew and you're not bothering me.
[09:29] <Distro^Junkie> BluesKaj: yea I still use windows for the wife but slowly converting her
[09:29] <brycew> intelikey: I umount and pmount it again.... Now the icon opens up from the desktop but it doesn't show anything from my external hard drive in it.  It's blank :-S
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[09:30] <elvirolo> hi all
[09:30] <intelikey> i yih yih yih,, yih       umount it again   and issue   mount /media/sda1    (not pmount)
[09:31] <brycew> ok
[09:32] <ubuntufan> hello
[09:32] <brycew> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
[09:32] <elvirolo> i have two kubuntu boxes, and i'd like to share files via nfs between them ... the server is configured but i don't know how to st up the client
[09:32] <brycew> intelikey: Thank you sooooo much!!!  You got it running for me :D
[09:32] <intelikey> brycew you finished with me now ?
[09:32] <intelikey> brycew you are quite welcome.
[09:32] <BluesKaj> Distro^Junkie, congrats ...don't think I'll ever convince wifey to switch to linux...she likes her pc the way it is :) . But, we're an older retired couple and she's not real technically oriented.
[09:32] <llutz> intelikey: pmount usually doesn't need any fstab-entry
[09:33] <intelikey> brycew and that should be permanant.
[09:33] <brycew> intelikey: Yes, I'll stop bugging you lol Your services are no longer needed ;)
[09:33] <intelikey> llutz yeah  but he had an entry,   hosed  but it was there.
[09:33] <Distro^Junkie> BluesKaj: I'm almost on my way to a brand new macbook though with the wife
[09:33] <llutz> intelikey:  i know, but don't know WHY he had it .)
[09:33] <brycew> So whenever I want to open up my external hard drive from this point on, will it always be on the desktop or do I have to run the mount /media/sda1 command?
[09:34] <BluesKaj> nice Distro^Junkie...
[09:34] <intelikey> llutz i don't know why he wanted pmount when a proper fstab and the user can mount it with mount...
[09:34] <intelikey> it's just one more char to type.
[09:34] <intelikey> no special benifit...
[09:34] <llutz> intelikey: questions over questions...
[09:34] <brycew> is there a difference between pmount and mount?
[09:35] <intelikey> is that a question llutz   :)
[09:35] <ubuntufan> hello, can you please help me install kde?
[09:35] <elvirolo> can anyone help me?
[09:35] <intelikey> brycew yes  but for your particular use there just use mount
[09:35] <drif> ubuntufan: install or configure after installation?
[09:35] <BluesKaj> !ask | elvirolo
[09:35] <ubotu> elvirolo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:35] <brycew> Sounds good, thank you!
[09:35] <intelikey> np
[09:36] <ubuntufan> install
[09:36] <drif> ubuntufan: because the basic install is as easy as 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[09:36] <ubuntufan> i see it works sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <drif> yes
[09:36] <Dirrtys> I just started using konversation...how can I hide joins and parts?
[09:36] <intelikey> mount is on every linux system   pmount is on most.   if possable i always try to use and reccomend the more general/basic app
[09:36] <ubuntufan> and after that .. at the login screen i select kde ?
[09:37] <drif> ubuntufan: yup
[09:37] <ubuntufan> or at startup ?
[09:37] <ubuntufan> at the boot loader
[09:37] <intelikey> login
[09:37] <drif> ubuntufan: before each login you can decide
[09:37] <brycew> Cool, thanks :)
[09:37] <ubuntufan> aha, you mean where i enter my password... right?
[09:37] <drif> ubuntufan: and username
[09:38] <adriana> Hi
[09:38] <ubuntufan> yes...
[09:38] <llutz> pmount (1)           - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user
[09:38] <ubuntufan> ok thanks man
[09:38] <albertmk> I want to play my DVD (movie) in Kubuntu. Whats a good program for that?
[09:38] <adriana> there are spanish here?
[09:38] <intelikey> man mount    mount - mount a file system
[09:38] <brycew> OK... another question, but not directed towards Intelikey, you need a break LOL
[09:38] <NickPresta> !dvd | albertmk
[09:38] <ubotu> albertmk: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:38] <drif> albertmk: vlc is one possibility
[09:39] <albertmk> vlc? isnt it just a wmv player?
[09:39] <intelikey> hardly
[09:39] <drif> albertmk: it plays variety of formats
[09:39] <albertmk> all right :)
[09:39] <intelikey> !info vlc
[09:39] <brycew> Now that I've got my external hard drive up and running.... I want to load some songs onto my memory card for me cell phone / mp3 player.  How do I open up a memory card so I can drag and drop songs in so I can use them on my mp3 player?
[09:39] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[09:39] <NickPresta> I like Mplayer and Kaffeine for DVD playback
[09:40] <BluesKaj> VLC prolly plays more formats than any other media player in existence
[09:40] <Arwen> I use MPlayer for everything :-\
[09:40] <Arwen> BluesKaj, and yet it can't do subtitles
[09:40] <intelikey> vlc doesn't need propritary 'corrupt code' for most formats.
[09:40] <albertmk> yes, it works
[09:41] <intelikey> but someone said vlc was ugly
[09:41] <chollo> quien me puede decir un server en espaol
[09:41] <BluesKaj> Arwen, I don't watch a lot of movies on my pc
[09:41] <NickPresta> !es | chollo
[09:41] <ubotu> chollo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:41] <intelikey> when i do watch a movie on here it's with vlc in a console using svgalibs   no xorg/x11 needed
[09:42] <BluesKaj> intelikey, for those who want eyecandied media players ...i have just one suggestion ..
[09:43] <intelikey> and it's not console   is it ?
[09:43] <intelikey> :0
[09:43] <BluesKaj> nope :)
[09:43] <Arwen> eye candy media player?
[09:43] <Arwen> wha
[09:43] <Arwen> ?
[09:44] <intelikey> Arwen skins bells and whistles
[09:44] <brycew> How do I view what's on a memory card for my mp3 player?  I want to transfer songs so I can listen to it on my mp3 player.
[09:44] <BluesKaj> if the frame is more importanr than the content , then i have nothing to say
[09:44] <NickPresta> brycew, you can mount it as a memory card or mount it as a media device in Amarok or something similar
[09:45] <brycew> what would be the mount command that I would run?
[09:45] <conrad__> anyone know what to do if firefox crashes every time i download something?
[09:45] <llutz> BluesKaj: in most movies, the frame is more interesting than the content :)
[09:45] <NickPresta> brycew, I would think your memory card would be auto-mounted. The `mount` command should do it. Let me check the man pages...
[09:46] <BluesKaj> hehe, llutz...was waiting for that one :)
[09:46] <intelikey> brycew does depend on the format of the fs    sudo mount /dev/<device> /media/<mountpoint> -o <options>         <<< that's the generic syntax  translate all within <>
[09:46] <intelikey> llutz here here !
[09:46] <intelikey> or dito
[09:46] <intelikey> or what ever is aproprate
[09:46] <brycew> NickPresta:  lol Thanks :D
[09:47] <BluesKaj> brycew, what's your pc , if you don't mind my curiousity ?
[09:48] <NickPresta> brycew, yes. You don't need to know the mount type in most cases, I just discovered. So a simple `mount /dev/DEVICENAME /media/MOUNTPOINT` should suffice
[09:48] <intelikey> brycew and being new to linux let me introduce you to the manual pages for the commands you use.    in the konsole type;   man intro
[09:48] <bauer> how do i get the KDE headers installed ?
[09:48] <intelikey> brycew that's a short read on how manual pages and the pager work.
[09:49] <brycew> intelikey: Thanks... looking into it now :)
[09:49] <Arwen> bauer, apt-get install kde-dev I think
[09:49] <intelikey> bauer sudo apt-get install kde-dev      ?
[09:49] <intelikey> not sure about the package name
[09:49] <brycew> NickPresta: Thanks, going to try that in one sec.
[09:49] <llutz> bauer: install kde-devel
[09:49] <Arwen> yeah, kde-devel
[09:49] <bauer> Arwen, intelikey , llutz  Thx :o)
[09:50] <combo> how can i remove all ATI drivers (XGL, fglrx and the rest of AIGLX) so i can try to install them once again ? :] 
[09:50] <Arwen> XGL isn't a driver. AIGLX too.
[09:50] <intelikey> brycew then afterwards if you need info on the mount command   you type     man mount      and either use the  /<string> search feature or the navigation keys and look up what you want.
[09:50] <combo> i've just tried many kind of drivers but all of them sux :] 
[09:50] <combo> Arwen: ok, i don't know how to call them
[09:50] <combo> i just want to REMOVE them at all!
[09:51] <combo> can u help ? :S
[09:51] <intelikey> brycew and there are man pages for most commands    and mount is on most linux installations.
[09:51] <NickPresta> combo, you can fire up Adept and search for them and remove them. You can also use the console: `sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE`
[09:51] <intelikey> errr not mount.  man
[09:51] <Arwen> you can't remove AIGLX, but apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx xserver-xgl will get rid of the other two
[09:51] <brycew> intelikey: Thanks... wrote it all down in my notebook for the future :D reading this intro right now
[09:52] <intelikey> ok lesson is over,  school is out.
[09:52] <combo> ok thanks, i'll try that :)
[09:52] <NickPresta> I wish I would've kept notes on what I learnt when I was new to GNU+Linux. It would've saved me time searching Google and such.
[09:53] <brycew> I've got about 30 pages in this notebook full with stuff already and I've only been on linux 5 days :S
[09:54] <NickPresta> heh. That's good. Check out the command `apropos` if you haven't already
[09:54] <NickPresta> it's invaluable
[09:54] <brycew> So to mount my memory card, I can do it by mounting the "name"?  Example, mount /dev/scandisk right?
[09:55] <combo> can i delete all XORG ? i mean xorg-input, xserver-xgl, xserver-xorg-core, e.g. ? :}
[09:55] <combo> there are many of this stuff
[09:55] <capiira> if you don't need a graphical gui then yes
[09:55] <combo> or this is bad idea ? :}
[09:56] <capiira> you will end in the shell by deleting xorg
[09:56] <combo> capiira: graphical gui? i just want to uninstall all my drivers so i can install them again
[09:56] <combo> cuz i have to big mess with them :] 
[09:56] <capiira> by deleting xorg you will in th shell
[09:56] <capiira> without gnome/kde
[09:56] <combo> capiira: so - as i can see - it's very baaad move :}
[09:56] <brycew> NickPresta: I typed apropos and it told me apropos what?
[09:57] <drif> NickPresta: appropos <word>
[09:57] <combo> capiira: so how can i delete fglrx shit ?
[09:57] <drif> srry :D
[09:57] <drif> I meant bryce..
[09:57] <drif> sigh
[09:57] <capiira> dont know i never owned a ati
[09:57] <combo> i was trying first to install AIGLX then fglrx
[09:57] <combo> and then XGL or something
[09:57] <capiira> always avoided it :D
[09:57] <combo> am not sure :/ what should i do ? :|
[09:57] <capiira> you cant install AIGLX
[09:57] <combo> capiira: why avoid? ;>
[09:57] <capiira> its part of xorg
[09:58] <combo> capiira: why cannot?!
[09:58] <brycew> lol thanks drif
[09:58] <combo> i had AIGLX before ;P
[09:58] <capiira> maybe you enabled and disabled it
[09:58] <capiira> but not uninstalled
[09:58] <BluesKaj> combo, what ati card do you have ?
[09:58] <combo> BluesKaj: ATI Radeon 9600
[09:58] <combo> i have NOT too much knowledge 'bout that topic :/
[09:59] <Angelus> BluesKaj: do you know some good identd program , i want to use it for IRC to give ident reponse, i already tried pidentd and oidentd but no luck
[09:59] <BluesKaj> and what are trying to do
[09:59] <combo> actually i DON'T have ANY knowledge ... 've been trying to do that with some HOW-TOs :/
[09:59] <NickPresta> well, you have to see what it's device name is. Open up KControl (`kcontrol`) and go to Disk & Filesystem. It should tell you what various things are.  My CD burners are /dev/hda and hdb. My USB card reader is /dev/sda and sdb
[09:59] <combo> but doesn't work
[09:59] <NickPresta> to brycew of course
[09:59] <BluesKaj> Angelus, why are you trying ident ?
[09:59] <brycew> OK... I'll give that a shot NickPresta!
[10:00] <Angelus> cause i want to ident on IRC
[10:00] <Angelus> :/
[10:00] <BluesKaj> do you mean register your nick , Angelus ?
[10:00] <Angelus> no
[10:00] <Angelus> identd dude
[10:00] <combo> BluesKaj: i want to remove all AIGLX and fglrx stuff so i can install it clearly again - this time only file: 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'
[10:00] <capiira> maybe your router is blocking the port
[10:00] <Angelus> see this >n=demon@
[10:00] <Angelus> on my whois
[10:00] <Angelus> thats the ident
[10:00] <combo> hope it'll work
[10:01] <Angelus> if i give ident response that n= will go away
[10:01] <capiira> 113 is blocked
[10:01] <capiira> port forward it
[10:01] <BluesKaj> combo, if you have the patience , you might try this tutorial ; http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[10:03] <capiira> you can't ident if 113 is blocked
[10:03] <BluesKaj> sorry Angelus , you lost me
[10:03] <Angelus> ok :o
[10:03] <DagonIT> I just installed Kubuntu 64 and apparently broke adaptec. How do I fix it?
[10:03] <brycew> NickPresta: It's not showing me anything for the memory card.  I'm not even getting any popup when I push in the duo adapter scandisk thingy.... Nothing showing up in the Disk & Filesystems? :(
[10:04] <NickPresta> brycew, is this memory card going into a card reader or directly to a USB interface?
[10:06] <brycew> NickPresta: The memory card is placed into a little converter thingy that I place into the slot on my laptop (sorry I'm not very technical or word savvy here lol)
[10:07] <NickPresta> in the Disk & Filesystems window, you don't see anything that says "Removable USB Disk ..." or anything like that?
[10:07] <brycew> <<< Memory Stick Duo Adapter >>> with memory card inserted, then I insert the adapter into the computer, if that makes any better sense lol
[10:07] <brycew> NickPresta: I do, but it's only showing my external hard drive.
[10:08] <NickPresta> hmm okay.
[10:10] <GuyFromHell> How can i set up ipw4945 on feisty?
[10:10] <GuyFromHell> oh nvm just found it ;)
[10:12] <brycew> I've searched everyone on google.com/linux for mounting a memory card, but no success :S
[10:12] <NickPresta> which laptop do you have?
[10:13] <brycew> NickPresta: Compaq Presario R3000
[10:14] <BluesKaj> brycew, do you have flash installed
[10:15] <BluesKaj> and are you using kubuntu 64 biy distro ?
[10:15] <BluesKaj> bit
[10:15] <brycew> BluesKaj: I believe so... not certain tho... I performed all the updates and downloads as I browsed the net, I think one requested me to download flash if that's what you're referring to.
[10:15] <brycew> kubuntu 7.04
[10:15] <drif> brycew: no, do you have flash inserted - I believe that's wat he asked
[10:16] <drif> or..
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Texas Instruments PCI-1620 Cardbus PCMCIA with Ultramedia flash reader
[10:16] <brycew> No I don't think I do then :S
[10:17] <rustalot> I got a new laptop (a Dell Inspiron 1420 ) and when I try to do start or install, it goes to a shell and gives me an error about 'can't access tty, job control turned off'
[10:18] <rustalot> the shell is Debian BusyBox v1.1.3 Built-in shell (ash)
[10:21] <BluesKaj> brycew, lsb_release -a .. will tell you which version of kubuntu you are running ...I suspect some of your probs are related, if it's the 64bit version
[10:22] <brycew> 7.04
[10:22] <brycew> BluesKaj: 7.04 Feisty
[10:23] <BluesKaj> oops wrong cmnd , i guess
[10:24] <BluesKaj> bbl...gotta set up the BBQ
[10:32] <Azzco> Can anyone recomend a IM that has decent filetransfer on linux (I'd like if if can be used with kopete)
[10:33] <NickPresta> Azzco, what do you mean a decent IM?
[10:33] <NickPresta> You said Kopete. The other big IM client is Gaim/Pidgin.
[10:33] <Azzco> Mainly a Im that anyone could consider to use
[10:33] <NickPresta> Gaim/Pidgin
[10:33] <Azzco> Well I meant the protocol
[10:34] <NickPresta> oh.
[10:34] <Azzco> sorry if that was unlcear
[10:34] <NickPresta> well, I don't think any are particularly good. It would probably be better to find a site that you can upload files to and distribute the link...
[10:34] <Azzco> Okay in a swedish ubuntu site they talked alot about jabber being so good but I haven't had the time to try it out
[10:35] <Azzco> only tried google talk once (jabber based I think) and it didn't seem so good..
[10:39] <johnny_> Hi
[10:40] <CPrompt^> hello
[10:40] <NickPresta> !hi
[10:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:40] <johnny_> Cool with Kubuntu
[10:40] <johnny_> Thanks
[10:40] <johnny_> Automatix2 is fucking good
[10:40] <NickPresta> !automatix
[10:40] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:41] <CPrompt^> it screws up some stuff johnny_
[10:41] <johnny_> Like what?
[10:41] <CPrompt^> don't try to do a dist-upgrade with it installed.  it will crash
[10:41] <johnny_> No, I won't upgrade my distro with it.
[10:42] <johnny_> But many cool programs
[10:42] <CPrompt^> no real need for it anyway.  that's what adept is for ;)
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Azzco, MS messenger works well in kopete ...used a few times with no probs
[10:42] <johnny_> Right.
[10:42] <johnny_> The new aMSN is very good
[10:42] <NickPresta> johnny_, automatix may be fine for now, but remember !automatix
[10:42] <Azzco> BluesKaj: I'm having serius problems with file transfer on MSN all files I get are corrupt..
[10:43] <NickPresta> Azzco, I've never had that problem using MSN on Pidgin/Gaim
[10:43] <coreymon77> johnny_: never use automatix!
[10:43] <johnny_> Hm. Why not just upload it to www.sendspace.com for free?
[10:43] <BluesKaj> whoa Azzco , that's bad ...din't know that
[10:43] <Azzco> I'd really like to stay with kopete :( I've themed it nicely and gotten used to it
[10:43] <coreymon77> johnny_: it breaks systems
[10:43] <johnny_> So people can download afterwoods
[10:44] <coreymon77> johnny_: apt does the exact same thing and does not brea systems
[10:44] <Azzco> I've only expereienced corrupt file transfers kopete client to kopete
[10:44] <johnny_> Autsomatix breaks systems?
[10:44] <coreymon77> yes
[10:44] <coreymon77> !automatix
[10:44] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:44] <coreymon77> see
[10:44] <coreymon77> johnny_: just use apt, or adept, or aptitude
[10:45] <johnny_> OK, I get it.
[10:45] <coreymon77> johnny_: good
[10:45] <johnny_> But I use it for some installations
[10:45] <coreymon77> johnny_: dont
[10:45] <coreymon77> johnny_: just use apt
[10:45] <Azzco> Why is those programs so popular..
[10:45] <johnny_> Is it som bad?
[10:45] <johnny_> so
[10:45] <coreymon77> johnny_: yes
[10:45] <Angelus> hello
[10:45] <Angelus> can somone help me with the folowing errorplease ? http://rafb.net/p/nsdlvI66.html
[10:45] <johnny_> Hm. I thought it was very good
[10:46] <coreymon77> johnny_: use it if you want to, but youve been warned
[10:46] <CPrompt^> johnny_ : i have never found a program that I couldn't install on Kubuntu.  At least one for linux anyway.
[10:46] <coreymon77> johnny_: if it breaks your system, dont come crawling to us, we wont help you
[10:46] <Angelus> can somone help me with the folowing errorplease ? http://rafb.net/p/nsdlvI66.html
[10:46] <johnny_> Well, I have uset Linux for less than a year....
[10:46] <BioVorE> Angelus: cd: 1: can't cd to ../tools  <-- build script can't cd into that directory..
[10:46] <Angelus> BioVorE:
[10:46] <coreymon77> johnny_: just use apt instead
[10:46] <Angelus> what can i do about it?
[10:46] <BioVorE> no clue.. your building it..
[10:46] <Angelus> hmm
[10:47] <Angelus> its cedega's source
[10:47] <Angelus> winex
[10:47] <Angelus> :/
[10:47] <johnny_> Yes, but I do. Autsomatix for smoe updates
[10:47] <johnny_> some
[10:47] <johnny_> Sorry
[10:47] <BioVorE> and.. you expect CVS to build all the time..
[10:47] <Angelus> :o
[10:47] <Angelus> why not?
[10:47] <BioVorE> Someone could be add stuff to it..
[10:47] <Q-collective> hey all, can I have some packages in unstable while staying mainly in stable for the rest of the system? In Gentoo there is this concept of package.* lists that mask or unmask stable/unstable packages at will. But I can see that this would be more troublesome with a binary distro which is linked against a certain versioned set of libraries
[10:47] <Angelus> O_o
[10:47] <BioVorE> CVS is what the developers use.. Some could be 1/2 written
[10:47] <johnny_> Shit.
[10:48] <brycew> Has anyone ever used "usbutils" debugging USB?
[10:48] <BioVorE> Look for nightly builds
[10:48] <Angelus> BioVorE: does kubuntu has any package of a sucesfull build of winex?
[10:48] <johnny_> I have problems with connecting too a USB extern harddrive
[10:49] <BioVorE> no.. winex is comercial..
[10:49] <Q-collective> cedega*
[10:49] <Sanne> Q-collective: usually it's mostly troublesome and better to backport unstable sources to stable.
[10:49] <brycew> Johnny, you ever figure out the problem?
[10:49] <BioVorE> the source you download isn't the full thing..
[10:49] <Angelus> yeah but its CVS its free
[10:49] <Angelus> :/
[10:49] <Angelus> oh
[10:49] <BioVorE> there are close source parts
[10:49] <Q-collective> cvs cedega is crippled
[10:49] <johnny_> No. I can get small USB-drives too function, but not as big as 250 GB
[10:50] <Arwen> CVS cedega doesn't have the DRM emulation code
[10:50] <Angelus> BioVorE: does something free like Cedega exist?
[10:50] <Q-collective> besides, wine has improved a lot in the past two years
[10:50] <brycew> I am trying to download pictures from my memory card, I cannot get it to read onlinux :(
[10:50] <BioVorE> wine.. the free version..
[10:50] <Q-collective> so, go for wine
[10:50] <Angelus> beside wine :S
[10:50] <Arwen> wine isn't the "free version"
[10:50] <Arwen> WINE is WINE
[10:50] <Q-collective> Angelus: what is wrong with wine?
[10:50] <BioVorE> www.winehq.com  I think..
[10:50] <Angelus> cause when i wined War Craft 3 it worked very very slow
[10:50] <Angelus> :/
[10:51] <BioVorE> yup.. sounds like wine.. works like crap imo
[10:51] <Q-collective> Angelus: you have your drivers properly setup?
[10:51] <johnny_> This is a support channel?
[10:51] <BioVorE> try #wine
[10:51] <Q-collective> #winehq
[10:51] <Angelus> what drivers Q-collective?
[10:52] <Q-collective> videodrivers
[10:52] <brycew> If I want to open a directory, I would type command "cd usbutils-0.72" correct?
[10:52] <Q-collective> what else
[10:52] <Q-collective> brycew: correct
[10:53] <brycew> it keeps telling me "No such file or directory" but I just downloaded it and extracted it to the kdesktop, but doesn't pull up in the terminal.
[10:53] <johnny_> Hmm.. Well anyway, I really like Linux, even after my short time on it.
[10:53] <BioVorE> !cave
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <BioVorE> wrong chan
[10:53] <Q-collective> brycew: try to use tab-completion, you may be mistyping it
[10:53] <johnny_> I guess
[10:53] <Mr_Sonoma> johnny_, yes this is a support channel. but automatrix is not a supported app
[10:53] <brycew> Q-collective: what do you mean tab-completion?
[10:54] <johnny_> No, I just tested this app for first time, the irc
[10:54] <Q-collective> brycew: try to type Q-<tabkey> in this irc channel
[10:54] <Q-collective> ;)
[10:54] <Bauldrick> ive allowed port 6881 through my router  but kubuntu seems to be blocking it (iptables?)
[10:54] <johnny_> So I did not know what it was
[10:54] <Angelus> Q-collective: do i have 3D accel like this http://rafb.net/p/Xb7LZf20.html ?
[10:54] <brycew> Q-collective: gotcha!  This works in the terminal as well for names?
[10:54] <brycew> names / applications
[10:55] <johnny_> I get the sam probleme with same port and a router
[10:55] <Q-collective> brycew: it works for commands, locations, etc
[10:55] <johnny_> ON aMSN
[10:55] <Bauldrick> johnny?
[10:55] <johnny_> yes?
[10:55] <_aaa> nick dac
[10:55] <Bauldrick> solution
[10:55] <brycew> So in other words... type... " cd usb <tab> and it will finish the rest of the application name?
[10:55] <johnny_> I don't have it
[10:55] <Q-collective> Angelus: glxgears is not a good app to show that
[10:55] <BluesKaj> brycew, the terminal assumes you have the file in /home/yourname.  that's prolly why the konsole doesn't see it
[10:56] <Q-collective> Angelus: try glxinfo | grep direct
[10:56] <_aaa> nick _dac
[10:56] <Bauldrick> lol !! ok
[10:56] <brycew> BluesKaj: So what do I need to do in order to change that?
[10:56] <Angelus> Q-collective: there's a difference beetween Direct Rendering and 3D accel
[10:56] <Q-collective> is there?
[10:56] <Angelus> yeah
[10:56] <Q-collective> since when? ;)
[10:57] <Angelus> even on cedega , there are 2 tests, direct rendering and 3D accell
[10:57] <BluesKaj> cd to /home/desktop or move the file into yout /home/yourname directory
[10:57] <BluesKaj> yout=your
[10:57] <johnny_> How to mount a usb hardrive?
[10:57] <Q-collective> kubuntu should mount it
[10:57] <Mr_Sonoma> uh plug it in?
[10:57] <johnny_> It don't
[10:57] <johnny_> Yes, plug in.
[10:58] <johnny_> But can't see it
[10:58] <johnny_> It won't mount
[10:58] <brycew> BluesKaj: When I downloaded it from the internet, I downloaded "usbutilis-0.72.tar.gz" and extracted it to my kdesktop, so wouldn't that mean it's already in "/home/myname/"?
[10:58] <Q-collective> ok, open a konsole and type sudo dmesg to see what is wrong
[10:58] <johnny_> Ok
[10:58] <Q-collective> after you plugged it in
[10:59] <Q-collective> Angelus: so, what is the difference then?
[10:59] <szollosyg> hey
[10:59] <BluesKaj> no, you brycew , you have to tell what ever browser you're using to DL to the /home/myname
[11:00] <johnny_> vmmon: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
[11:00] <Angelus> i dunno Q-collective, but i never passed cedega's 3D accell but Direct rendering i always passed it
[11:00] <johnny_>  ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
[11:00] <Sanne> brycew: usbutils is in the ubuntu repository, you can install it via adept/synaptic/apt
[11:00] <johnny_> Thanks
[11:00] <Q-collective> Angelus: then I guess cedega doesn't make a difference between direct rendering and mesa rendering
[11:01] <johnny_> usbutils?
[11:01] <Q-collective> which indeed is a difference
[11:01] <szollosyg> is there someone who is willing to help me install compiz fusion on kubuntu fiesty with an ATI X1100? please?
[11:01] <brycew> Sanne: Ok, I'm going to give it a shot that way, thanks for the suggestion!
[11:01] <jason__10> Hello
[11:01] <Q-collective> do the fglrx drivers play nice with compiz goodness these days?
[11:03] <brycew> Sanne: It says it's already installed :S
[11:03] <Sanne> brycew: you're welcome :). It's the recommended way to install software, because it's already compiled for your system. Otherwise you'd have to compile it yourself, and the package manager wouldn't know about it. So better first search if an app is in the repositiries.
[11:03] <Sanne> brycew: oh! so you have it :)
[11:04] <jason__10> anyone here a linux administrator?
[11:04] <knightz> why?
[11:04] <Q-collective> anyone with their own computer?
[11:04] <Q-collective> :-)
[11:04] <knightz> why?
[11:05] <Q-collective> knightz: that was an answer to jason__10 btw
[11:05] <brycew> That was refreshing to scream and cry lol
[11:05] <jason__10> im just wandering about what sort of qualifications if any they have
[11:05] <Q-collective> brycew: just plug the camera in?
[11:05] <runlevelten> Why don't you just plug your digital camera in?!
[11:06] <jason__10> Q-collective: I mean for a company,
[11:06] <debiani386> hi every1
[11:06] <knightz> f-qualification..... is not skillz
[11:06] <brycew> Because I only have a memory card for it.
[11:06] <Sanne> brycew: some devices use non standard protocols that may not be supported by Linux.
[11:06] <jason__10> like does any one get paid for their linux knowledge
[11:06] <debiani386> jason >> i do :P
[11:06] <jason__10> hi debiani386
[11:06] <jason__10> :)
[11:06] <runlevelten> jason__10: Yes.
[11:06] <debiani386> hi jason
[11:06] <BioVorE> I know people.. I do sometimes..
[11:06] <jason__10> debiani386: thanks for updating the site
[11:06] <debiani386> jason >> your welcom
[11:07] <debiani386> welcome **
[11:07] <jason__10> BioVorE: and runlevelten I would like to get paid for using linux :)
[11:07] <Q-collective> jason__10: there are the RedHat qualifications, they're just about the industry standard in the linux world
[11:07] <brycew> Sanne: Do you know what a "SanDisk" Memory Stick Duo Adapter is?  I've my memory card in it, placed into my laptop and it won't read the card... Is this specifically only for windows OS or no?
[11:07] <debiani386> jason >> i also recommended this stie to some of my friends
[11:07] <runlevelten> for using?
[11:07] <runlevelten> heh
[11:07] <debiani386> jason >> i told them if they have any computer problems, go to that site and we will help
[11:07] <jason__10> brycew:  It should work, i think you will have to manually mount it tho, you tried?
[11:07] <jason__10> debiani386:  OK excellent
[11:07] <coreymon77> debiani386: what ste?
[11:08] <coreymon77> debiani386: you mean this channel?
[11:08] <debiani386> core >> stimulus.newsit.es
[11:08] <coreymon77> oh
[11:08] <brycew> jason__10: I've tried everything and I'm about ready to scream lol
[11:08] <runlevelten> I use a memory stick pro duo plugged into my phone, so I can't vouch for bothering with pooter card slots.
[11:08] <jason__10> coreymon77:  its mine and debiani386's site
[11:08] <coreymon77> brycew: whats the matter
[11:08] <jason__10> brycew:
[11:09] <jason__10> do you have a yahoo , msn or aim account?
[11:09] <brycew> I use this memory card for my phone as well.... it's a digital camera, phone, palm pilot, etc.... it's a 100 gig memory card and works perfect with windows but soon as I try to work it in here, I get nothing.
[11:09] <runlevelten> Hang on, I think I upgraded and it's now a micro m2
[11:09] <brycew> jason__10: I have all of them
[11:09] <runlevelten> what phone do you have?
[11:09] <runlevelten> brycew: ^
[11:09] <jason__10> add properganja_j to yahoo
[11:09] <brycew> runlevelten: the one I'm using right now is w810i
[11:10] <runlevelten> sony ericsson? Will work as a USB mass storage device, and the memory card will be mounted as a second device.
[11:10] <runlevelten> k800s, w800s (and the 10s and is)
[11:10] <brycew> runlevelten: yes, sony ericsson
[11:10] <Sanne> brycew: sorry, I'm not familiar with those devices. But I see you already got better help :)
[11:11] <runlevelten> Assuming you're using Kubuntu, that is.
[11:12] <brycew> runlevelten: I'm using kubuntu 7.04
[11:12] <brycew> Sanne: Thanks a million!
[11:12] <jason__10> brycew: do can I chat to you on yahoo?
[11:12] <pontiac> run whats up
[11:13] <runlevelten> Well I'd put it in the phone and plug the phone in using the data cable that comes with them :)
[11:13] <runlevelten> hi pontiac :)
[11:13] <pontiac> run you from usa
[11:13] <brycew> I can't find the data cable :(
[11:13] <runlevelten> Oh no :(
[11:13] <brycew> I know! lol
[11:14] <pontiac> i remove  my kubuntu 86
[11:14] <pontiac> too hard
[11:14] <brycew> I think I found some help tho... :)
[11:14] <runlevelten> See, they expose a nice simple usb mass storage device, so your camera + memory stick will work with digikam, amarok, picasa etc.
[11:14] <runlevelten> and be seen as two separate devices.
[11:15] <pass> hello, anybody knows how to configure a vivo (video in video out) card with kubuntu?
[11:16] <runlevelten> Also, the sony ericsson phones talk vcs, so you can sync up events from korganiser with the calendar on the phone.
[11:16] <runlevelten> and vice versa
[11:16] <pass> runlevelten - hello
[11:17] <runlevelten> It ain't quite syncml, but it makes the phone much more useful.
[11:17] <runlevelten> pass: hello
[11:18] <pass> runleveltenn: got a clue on how to configure a vivo card to work with linux?
[11:20] <runlevelten> wot sort of vivo card?
[11:21] <pass> runlevelten: leadtek geforce 4 ti 4400
[11:22] <runlevelten> Last I was aware of, people were using rivaTV, but don't quote me on that as it's not something I encounter often
[11:23] <runlevelten> !vivo
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vivo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <runlevelten> !rivatv
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rivatv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <pass> ah i C, rivatv is no longer working with newer drivers
[11:23] <pass> suppose there was another way..
[11:25] <runlevelten> Are you sure? On a card that old?
[11:26] <t00na> hello
[11:26] <t00na> is there a KDE way to figure out what kind of RAM i have?
[11:27] <pass> runlevelten: thx man, i'll figure it out somehow...
[11:27] <runlevelten> there are a couple of 4ti's supported here, it seems http://rivatv.sourceforge.net/status.html
[11:27] <pass> ye i am looking a that now
[11:27] <fusspils> I have 2 WIFI cards installed and they show up as eth1 and eth2.  I installed the hostap drivers, rebooted but they still show up as ethx.  Can I force ONE card to use the hostap drivers?
[11:27] <pass> i will try it anyway
[11:28] <pass> thx man
[11:28] <runlevelten> worth a shot, innit?
[11:28] <runlevelten> np, but I wish I was more help with that.
[11:28] <pass> it's old rusty hardware, wasn't expecting much
[11:28] <pass> vivo is something hard to get here
[11:28] <pass> in linux i mean
[11:29] <runlevelten> Still, it's nice old rusty hardware. Lot of respect for the 4 tis
[11:29] <t00na> hello?
[11:31] <runlevelten> t00na: what do you mean "what kind of ram"?
[11:33] <Karti> runlevelten: I think he may mean DDR2 800 etc (but I might be wrong!)
[11:33] <t00na> Karti is correct.
[11:33] <Cannoli> wht would cause linux games to run slow on a 512mb ati 1650?
[11:33] <t00na> I can't figure out how to crack this case open...
[11:33] <Cannoli> :S
[11:34] <BioVorE> t00na: try a bigger hammer
[11:34] <t00na> :D
[11:34] <sparr> I installed w32codecs and now mplayer can play everything i want, but xine still cant.  No xine means no kaffeine.  Help?
[11:34] <runlevelten> t00na: you can look in case or in the BIOS to find that the quickest.
[11:35] <runlevelten> Cannoli: lack of 3d support?
[11:35] <Cannoli> wht u mean?
[11:35] <hitmanWilly> sparr, libxine-extracodecs
[11:35] <Cannoli> do i need a driver for my card or something?
[11:35] <Karti> Doesn't the live cd have a memory test on it, as well
[11:35] <runlevelten> what does glxinfo | grep endor get you?
[11:35] <runlevelten> in a konsole
[11:36] <runlevelten> Cannoli: yes, you'll probably need to install the ATi drivers to play games.
[11:36] <Cannoli> and those are available through the add and remove programs?
[11:36] <runlevelten> !ati
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:37] <Cannoli> ah ic
[11:37] <Cannoli> ty
[11:37] <Cannoli>  :)
[11:37] <hufi> #kubuntu-de
[11:38] <runlevelten> np :)
[11:38] <hitmanWilly> sparr, or set up kaff to use mplayer for the backend
[11:41] <runlevelten> speaking of 3d, it's time for me to get some clan practise in. Later all.
[11:42] <sparr> hitmanWilly: im not getting an option for anything other than xine for the kaff backend.  and i dont like kaff anyways.  im tempted to just uninstall it
[11:46] <Cannoli> the tutorial says i have to get to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[11:46] <Cannoli> how would i do that
[11:46] <Cannoli> ?
[11:51] <Cannoli> anyone?
[11:52] <tuxedo_> hey i am new to this linux stuff  this thing any good?
[11:52] <Cannoli> hellz yea
[11:52] <VSpike> Should a font a 8pt size appear the same actual size in all screen resolutions?
[11:52] <Cannoli> i started abt a week and a half ago
[11:53] <Cannoli> im not going back to windows
[11:53] <moyer> i have a problem
[11:53] <tuxedo_> haha you know any good places for games
[11:53] <moyer> i cant view linux drive i get this error
[11:53] <Cannoli> VSpike: i dont think screen rez does anything to the fonts
[11:53] <Cannoli> as far as i know
[11:53] <moyer> hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[11:53] <moyer> i cant view windows partition rather.. sorry
[11:54] <mrksbrd> tuxedo, when u first start, it will be very frustrating, when u get used to it there's no limit on what u can do on this os
[11:54] <Cannoli> tuxedo_: in linux, theres an option called add and remove programs, and it acts as a downloader for every avail program for linux, including tonnnneess of games
[11:54] <Cannoli> mrksbrd: do u knw how i might be able to get to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager?
[11:55] <VSpike> Cannoli: that's what I thought too
[11:55] <tuxedo_> alright sweet  thanks guys  i do like os
[11:55] <mrksbrd> u need to do re-down load the app?
[11:55] <Cannoli> no
[11:55] <Cannoli> i need to open it
[11:56] <VSpike> Cannoli: sudo restricted-manager
[11:56] <Cannoli> i cant find it to run it
[11:56] <mrksbrd> u using GNOME?
[11:56] <VSpike> Cannoli: scratch that... kdesu restricted-manager
[11:56] <Cannoli> yep i just did that. thanx vspike
[11:56] <Cannoli> !gnome
[11:57] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[11:57] <miglo> Hi all! Does someone know a channel about tv recording? does someone have experience with that?
[11:57] <Cannoli> no im using kubuntu
[11:57] <VSpike> I can't make any application print photos properly, which is incredibly annoying
[11:57] <mrksbrd> not sure in kubuntu, what are u trying to add???
[11:59] <VSpike> what's the state of the free nvidia driver like at the moment?
[11:59] <VSpike> How functional is it?
[12:00] <debiani386> the nvidia driver is still a bit glitch
[12:00] <debiani386> glitchy*
[12:01] <debiani386> I use an ati, but the people on the ubuntu support list are having problems with Beryl and there using the new opensource nvidia driver
[12:02] <BioVorE> !nvidia
[12:02] <VSpike> new opensource driver? you mean latest release of it, or an actual new effort?
[12:02] <Cannoli> hahah
[12:02] <Cannoli> i just got wine
[12:02] <Cannoli> XD
[12:02] <mrksbrd> cannoli, try a prog called automatix
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <Cannoli> for wht?
[12:02] <debiani386> spike >> according to the mailing list, it was the latest release
[12:03] <ubuntu> s
[12:03] <VSpike> Cannoli: seriously, don't try automatix
[12:03] <BioVorE> !automatix
[12:03] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:04] <VSpike> BioVorE: I have the binary drivers installed thanks - just wondering how functional the free ones are
[12:04] <Cannoli> :O
[12:04] <Cannoli> it breaks ur system?
[12:05] <Cannoli> !toolbar
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toolbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <Cannoli> how do i open my little tool abr again
[12:05] <VSpike> debiani386: I'm not actually using any effects, or playing any 3d games.  I do have some occasional stability problems with the X server though, and I'm wondering if they are related to the binary driver
[12:05] <Cannoli> the one on the bottom of my screen
[12:05] <Cannoli> which tells time and stuff
[12:05] <VSpike> Cannoli: kicker
[12:05] <Cannoli> ah ic
[12:05] <Cannoli> thanx
[12:05] <Cannoli> k imma go take a nap
[12:05] <Cannoli> g'night
[12:06] <sparr> why do people use kaffeine?  i cant find anything to like about it, and it annoys me in so many ways.
[12:06] <VSpike> I was thinking about trying the free one for a while to see if its more stable, but it depends how usable it actually is
[12:06] <drif> sparr: me neither, although I did watch dvb broadcasts with it
[12:08] <sparr> goddamnit
[12:08] <sparr> i had kmplayer working
[12:08] <sparr> now mplayer plays outside the kmplayer window
[12:08] <sparr> wtf?
[12:22] <chollo> hi
[12:23] <brycew> How do I find a usb connection?  It's not popping up when I connect the cord.
[12:25] <chollo> sorry pero por enesima vez cual son los canales en espaol
[12:25] <chollo> para guardarlos
[12:25] <BioVorE> !es
[12:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:27] <VSpike> brycew: suggest you do tail -f /var/log/messages and then plug it in again and look for useful stuff
[12:30] <brycew> VSpike: What exactly am I looking for that is useful?  Nothing new popped up once I plugged it in again.
[12:30] <jason__10> brycew:  we're still here we think we have your solution have you decided not to go ahead?
[12:30] <brycew> Jason__10 tried messaging you guys and never got a response... figured you guys left :( I'll look you up on yahoo again.
[12:31] <VSpike> brycew: anything relating to usb
[12:31] <jason__10> ah sorry probably a yahoo prob
[12:31] <VSpike> brycew: did you not see a bunch of messages appear when you plugged it in?
[12:31] <brycew> Nope, I saw a bunch of messages before I plugged in
[12:32] <VSpike> brycew: sounds like a non-functional port or device then, I think.. not sure though
[12:32] <brycew> Hmmm... maybe I'll plug it into my other usb port :)
[12:32] <VSpike> brycew: try "dmesg | grep -i usb"
[12:33] <ubuntufan> guys .. please help!
[12:33] <ubuntufan> how can i acces a windows partition ?
[12:33] <draik> Does anyone have XMAME-X installed? I can't seem to play of the games in the archive of ROMs which I have downloaded.
[12:34] <draik> ubuntufan: Do you know how to mount a drive?