=== penguin42 wonders if there is a list of packages that are new to Gutsy [01:16] Hm, EXA is broken for Savage. [01:16] hmm, newest X11 updates killed one of my apps [01:19] I wonder how well a Voodoo3 will work..... well, I'll be trying one on an Athlon XP in a little while. [01:20] DanaG: EXA is just plain broken [01:21] Aah. [01:21] it never has worked well [01:21] what's EXA? :D [01:21] What is it supposed to do, anyway? I was just trying it because I was curious, after seeing it under 'man savage'. [01:21] hehe voodoo3 is quite old; nice card in their day [01:22] Too bad NV killed them. [01:22] Or rather, assimilated them. [01:22] I don't understand why there isn't a symlink for cdrecord to wodim in gutsy [01:22] does anyone know why? [01:24] Yay, triggers are cool for things like update-initramfs. [01:24] No more running it 3 times! === DanaG throws an air-hug (or at least a high-five) at whoever (singular or plural) implemented that designed and implemented that feature. [01:25] heh [01:26] i believe that was ian === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === joerlend [n=joerlend@ti221110a080-3306.bb.online.no] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === joerlend is now known as tyabux [01:35] fyi - eject - t doesn't toggle the tray state - only closes === tyabux [n=joerlend@ti221110a080-3306.bb.online.no] has left #Ubuntu+1 [] === tyabux [n=joerlend@ti221110a080-3306.bb.online.no] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [01:36] eject -T [01:36] Commands are case-sensitive. [01:37] eject -T only works one way - if open will close - won't then shut [01:37] I just booted gutsy tribe 4 live on a machine that uses nvidia 6600 and tried to enable desktop effects, but I was told I needed to enable the restricted drivers. I did, and it told me it couldn't be found. Has anyone been able to do this? Perhaps it has changed for tribe 5? === DanaG [n=dana@66-169-236-47.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:38] *open [01:39] is there a secret to getting mplayer to show up on the "other applications" menu? [01:39] my Others menu is one hell of a mess - I'm not sure it should be a top level menu === clooch [n=clooch@66.231.221.19] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frying_fish_ [n=frying_f@AC8D043F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:41] how can I find out wether the restricted drivers are available from archies.ubuntu.com? === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:42] try it twice in the terminal [01:42] Is this "Xfwm4.5-svn" windeco theme the default for Xubuntu? === leperkhanz [n=rhy@ip68-111-203-36.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:50] How can I tell whether Composite is accelerated on my video chip? [01:51] does it run really slow? no? then it's accelerated === Dusk_ [n=dusk@85.100.10.25] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:51] hi there i've upgraded gutsy...but there's a firefox problem === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:51] It runs decently quickly (xfwm4), but takes a lot of CPU when dragging windows. [01:51] that's normal [01:51] when i try to open firefox session manager selection screen is coming but it'sbroken === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-184-60.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:53] ok, I'm wondering about about system-config-printer [01:53] it seems to work fine *except* for it keeps disabling my printer [01:53] so every time I want to print I have to go into system-config-printer and re-enable it [01:54] has anybody else had a similar problem? === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-30-96.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tyabux [n=djsi@ti221110a080-3306.bb.online.no] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-113-27.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:55] How do you drag something from xfce menu to the panel? === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:07] this should be dead simple... [02:08] how do i get nautilus to open a .ogg via mplayer? [02:08] right-click -> properties -> open with -> add mplayer [02:09] then what? [02:09] then it's done.. [02:10] it doesn't work.. [02:10] =( [02:10] mplayer doesn't even show up as an program in the list [02:10] add it [02:10] you click add, and it comes up with a list of selections; or you can use a custom command [02:11] mplayer isnt a selection so i tried custom [02:12] and then? [02:13] it shows up without an icon, and i still only get "Movie Player" aka totem as a choice [02:13] hold on, tracker just pwned me === zerwas_ [n=zer@p5480A96B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:16] technically, i guess its a .ogm === dankh [n=dankh@chy94-4-82-241-29-154.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:17] so you do have mplayer installed? [02:17] pwnguin, it shows up as an option in the "open with" menu doesn't it? Just check it. [02:17] hi there i've upgraded gutsy...but there's a firefox problem [02:17] when i try to open firefox session manager selection screen is coming but it'sbroken [02:19] arwen: it doesnt [02:19] i just get a dialog [02:20] "open with other application..." === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-30-96.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:20] screenshot. On the open with tab, there should be a "add". You can hit "use a custom command" and enter in your own. === |ajmorris_| [n=ajmorris@220-253-30-96.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:23] Arwen: new and interesting datapoint: this works for local files, but not remote ones [02:23] huh [02:23] yeah, that's a limitation I've heard of [02:23] grr [02:23] stupid gnome vfs [02:24] or rather, stupid totem, for not rendering subtitles correctly [02:24] heh. subtitles? [02:24] who needs those? ;) [02:25] my roommate apparently :P [02:25] Odd, my volume keys don't work in XFCE. [02:29] Arwen: im guessing that rather than set up a fifo or something to programs that dont support gnomevfs, it just refuses to hand it over =( === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:41] man, this thing is bugging me. I had my printer working just fine :( === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ed1t [n=net@unaffiliated/ed1t] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:49] is there a mp3 support? [02:49] with amarok [02:50] ed1t, yes it is === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:50] what can i do to return feisty again?? [02:50] what libraries do i have to down? [02:50] i downloaded gstreamer ones [02:50] ed1t, ubuntu-restricted [02:51] !downgrade | Dusk_ [02:51] Dusk_: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system. [02:51] pfff === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:51] lol === rob bites the nipple [02:52] Dusk_: reinstalling usually works best [02:52] unless it's just a few packages [02:52] anybody know the name of package i need to for playing mp3 in amarok/ [02:53] ed1t: did you try to play one? [02:53] yea [02:53] doesnt work [02:53] amarok just freezes [02:54] I think you need libxine stuff [02:54] I'm not on Kubuntu so I can't remember exactly [02:55] it works in rythembox but not in amarok [02:55] yeah, rhythmbox uses gstreamer, amarok uses xine [02:57] it worked [02:57] i just added some xine packages lol === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Delphinus [n=jack@202.124.102.146] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ed1t [n=net@unaffiliated/ed1t] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === Ahadiel [n=michael@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:17] are there any problems with USB priorities in gutsy? === Dusk_ [n=dusk@85.100.10.25] has left #ubuntu+1 ["http://duskdiyebiri.blogspot.com"] === steven_ [n=steven@c-76-20-182-119.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu+1 === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-070-145-184-070.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ion [n=ion@71-223-186-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-219-42-209.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:41] has anyone been able to sort out the borked colors on Radeon cards at 16depth? [03:42] 16-bit? why not use 24-bit? [03:42] Arwen, it makes Compiz nigh-to-unusable [03:42] 7500 Radeon here ;) [03:42] 16depth works peachy except for the recent colour distortion [03:43] wfarr: i recommend not using compiz at all. [03:43] well, 16-bit color needs to be upscaled to 24-bit color on many displays, so that could be part of it [03:43] you could just turn off some effects :-P [03:44] Arwen, it's only existed with this last iteration of the radeon driver [03:44] ok [03:45] What exactly is Backing store? [03:47] When I enable it, Xorg takes much more CPU power for lots of things. [03:47] where are you seeing that? [03:47] in Windows, backing store is the process of duplicating RAM to swap. [03:48] It's something you can enable in xorg.conf. === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-219-42-209.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:48] *shrug* [03:48] it must be driver regressions [03:48] using xrandr to rotate the screen makes the display go blank until you manually kill X [03:48] =) === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.220.58.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:49] It's disabled by default, anyway. I was just enabling it to satisfy my curiosity of what it is, but it still hasn't really answered the question of what it is. === MisterN__ [n=MisterN_@p57A5578D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:52] DanaG: It makes the server remember data for covered windows, instead of putting the burden on the client to redraw itself. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:53] So is it supposed to be good or bad? [03:54] It's supposed to be useful, sometimes. [03:55] Right now it just seems to increase Xorg's CPU usage. [03:55] what's what? [03:55] Then again, I _am_ using Composite with the Savage driver. [03:55] S3 TwisterK. [03:56] This may not be one of those times, then. [03:57] how can i run a the repository chooser from the ubuntu installer [03:57] working on a vm that i wanna allow the repo to be chosen on first boot === keram [n=keram`@cpe-76-87-180-5.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jscinoz [n=jscinoz@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:02] Is the bug in the .10 kernel that kills alsa on intel based cards goign to be fixed soon? === klaxian [n=rgabriel@cpe-72-224-111-124.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === keram [n=keram`@cpe-76-87-180-5.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:05] does anyone have problems where you can't move windows when running compiz? also, window placement doesn't seem to be aware of toolbars [04:06] is that a known issue or is my configuration just messed up somehow? [04:06] klaxian do you have window decorations? [04:06] yes, compiz is definitely running [04:06] effects work fine too [04:06] not sure then sorry [04:06] i just can't move windows [04:07] i had the no window deco's for a while and obviously you cant move windows then either [04:07] right [04:07] it used to work in gutsy, but then it stopped [04:07] perhaps something got broken [04:07] or my config is messed up somehow [04:09] try doing an apt-get remove --purge for all the compiz packages [04:09] then reinstall with a blank config [04:09] alrighty === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ccooke [n=ccooke@spc1-walt5-0-0-cust591.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:12] that won't purge my user config tho [04:12] go into ~/.compiz or wherever it is and delete it [04:12] nothing in gconf? === nickrud [n=nickrud_@216.112.213.2.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:27] dont think so === khermans_ [n=khermans@c-71-233-79-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:28] my gutsy on thinkpad is incredibly fast! [04:29] has anyone noticed that dpkg hangs and zombies around halfway through a daily upgrade? [04:29] all my gui apps are running amazingly quickly as of recent updates, what happened!??! [04:29] this is great [04:29] i have never seen gnome so responsive [04:29] Nothing khermans, ubuntu is always uber :P [04:29] jscinoz, i have been running ubuntu since warty [04:30] this is like never before [04:30] not sure :P [04:30] khermans_: composite desktop makes everything feel alot smoother [04:31] i wish compizfusion didnt hang my entire system on logout/switchback to metacity/run something else with hardware accel [04:31] Pici, not compiz, i have it off [04:31] jscinoz, yes i notice compiz/beryl fai lto work with fadst user swtiching [04:31] khermans_: Well then, I dont know. But if it aint broke... [04:31] :-) [04:31] i think its because of indirect rendering [04:32] which fixes the black window bug, but causes it to hang on exit === klaxian [n=rgabriel@cpe-72-224-111-124.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === klaxian [n=rgabriel@cpe-72-224-111-124.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:41] now i'm not getting any window decorations at all with compiz :-P [04:41] made it worse lol [04:43] must be bugs with compiz i guess...it worked perfectly on feisty and on gutsy before a couple weeks ago [04:43] something must have changed === alex_mayorg1 [n=osito@189.156.196.251] has joined #ubuntu+1 === t0phr3 [n=t0phr3@nc-69-68-92-133.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:46] anybody else having trouble burning gutsy to CD? [04:46] t0phr3 are you using the DVD? [04:46] nope just CDs [04:47] Can anyone help me deal with bug #134827 [04:47] Launchpad bug 134827 in xorg-server "[tribe 5] xorg 1:7.2-5ubuntu7 broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134827 [04:47] maybe even confirm it [04:48] jscinoz. nope just CDs [04:48] hmm, im out of ideas, i thought it might be DVD, because the tribe4 dvd iso is oversized [04:49] jscinoz i never had a problem before gutsy [04:50] i haven't burned a successful CD yet [04:50] md5sum is fine on the image === hrp2171 [n=chatzill@70.134.84.153] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:51] hello [04:51] im currently running 7.04 and trying to upgrade to tribe 5 but can't. [04:52] eorror? [04:52] ran sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade then gksudo "update-manager -c -d" [04:52] error was warning: could not initiate dbus [04:52] and [04:53] current dist not found in meta-release file [04:53] i always do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [04:53] doubt that is the problem though [04:54] what is dist-upgrade supposed to do [04:55] distribution upgrade [04:55] im going to try it [04:56] k === hrp2171 [n=chatzill@70.134.84.153] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:57] still no clue on my burning problem huh folks? === steven__ [n=steven@c-76-20-182-119.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:02] t0phr3: i'd try not to get hrp* to upgrade, if he doenst know what a dist-upgrade is.... [05:02] t0phr3: my psychic pony is on holidays, your burning stuff contains very little useful info. [05:04] Hobbsee, forgot i put that in another chat === rockets [n=rockets@user-0cev669.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:05] this is weird...compiz is running and working, but i don't have any window decorations...any ideas? [05:05] klaxian: gnome? kde? [05:05] gnome [05:05] is gnome-window-decorator running? [05:05] Hobbsee: anyway, i download an image, check the md5, burn it to disk, files are corrupt, burn at slower speed, files corrupt, burn on another machine, files still corrupt. [05:05] no [05:05] unsure if it's named quite that [05:05] klaxian: then run it. that's why [05:06] Hobbsee: no, it's not [05:06] Hobbsee: any ideas? [05:06] Hobbsee: doesn't seem to run... [05:06] it's gtk-window-decorator, right? [05:06] it doesn't start [05:06] just hangs [05:06] t0phr3: is the md5sum correct between the archive version and the downloaded image? [05:07] klaxian: no idea, i dont run gnome. and i suspect it's supposed to hang, nad give window borders. [05:07] Hobbsee: yes, everytime [05:07] Hobbsee: yah, it's just not giving borders :-P [05:08] t0phr3: what are you burning under? [05:08] t0phr3: as in, distro, and what program are you burning with? [05:08] klaxian: hmm. it doesnt mention it segfaulting or anything? [05:08] Hobbsee: nope, just hangs [05:08] klaxian: i'd check launchpad about g-w-d [05:08] alright [05:09] nautilus and gnome-baker in linux, infrarecorder in windows [05:09] compiz was working except i couldn't move windows so i reinstalled compiz* and now i have this problem :-P [05:09] t0phr3: fails on all of them? how weird. [05:10] t0phr3: er, assuming you mean "corrupt" as in, doesnt contain the same md5sum as wehn you started burning? [05:11] Hobbsee: the CD check fails, you know the one that you do after booting from the CD [05:12] Hobbsee: yeah, get the md5sum corruption error === Chadwick|359 [n=Cts359@24-236-132-251.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:13] t0phr3: ah right. [05:13] Anybody else notice their ipw2200 Wifi card disappear today? I don't see anything about it in launchpad or the forums [05:13] t0phr3: hmm, i thought that the burning tools would actually let you verify the image as well. [05:14] t0phr3: this was ubuntu gutsy desktop i386, btw? [05:14] Hobbsee: desktop and alternate === rockets [n=rockets@user-0cev669.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:15] t0phr3: how odd. tribe 5 results came back fine for that === preacher [n=preacher@adsl-074-247-130-047.sip.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:15] Hobbsee: yeah i tried tribe 5 as well [05:17] may be a dumb question but if i got tribe4 installed with all update current do i have to reinstall tribe 5 === databuddy is now known as necronekostar === necronekostar is now known as starscalling [05:18] Oh yeah, nvidia 100.14.11 adds two new features on my laptop: [05:18] preacher: no. just do the daily upgrades. [05:18] Good: hotkey display switching, [05:19] Bad: locks up Xorg, requring alt-sysrq-k, upon ending Compiz. === starscalling is now known as nekostar [05:20] i thought so - so if keep up with daily upgrades when final release comes out will my system be equal to final release iso's [05:21] Hobbsee: so there was an actual bug on my issue? [05:21] t0phr3: to be honest, it sounds local. sounds like something wrong in your setup. === tretle_ [n=tretle@res-adsl034-B.bas501.cwt.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:22] t0phr3: the fact that 6 other people didnt find it, doing the same check... [05:22] Hobbsee: on all three PCs? [05:22] can someone help me get flash working on 64bit gutsy firefox [05:22] ? === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:22] t0phr3: well, that's what i would have thought. but if no one else can actually confirm it, there's no real way to track down the problem? [05:23] t0phr3: the type of cd's might be my other guess. *shrugs* [05:23] tretle_: i don't think there is a 64bit flash [05:23] Hobbsee: ain't that some crap [05:23] !flash64 | tretle_ [05:23] tretle_: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava === jscinoz [n=jscinoz@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:24] tretle_: I dont know anything about flash on 64 bit systems beyond !flash64 ;) [05:24] t0phr3: yeah. if you can actually isolate the problem further, then that'd be good. but if people have no way to reproduce it - ie, works fine for htem, then any bug you file on it will just get ignored anyway - or marked as wontfix - WFM. === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.18.14] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:26] whats going on with the duplication in the panel does anyone know [05:27] that bug has been there since at least tribe 2 [05:27] in places [05:27] tretle_: What duplication? [05:27] Do you have a bug # or link to the bug report? === nekostar is now known as starscalling [05:28] ~_~ === starscalling is now known as databuddy [05:28] do I report this on dmesg APIC error on CPU1: 40(40) ? [05:29] tretle_: bout like the one for the intel ipw3945 === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:29] Pici: [Bug 122602] Duplicated entries in Places Menu [05:29] Launchpad bug 122602 in gnome-panel "Duplicated entries in Places Menu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122602 === Hobbsee wishes people would understand the phases of ubuntu development, before whining on how bugs havent been fixed yet. [05:31] hey I have those dupes too === nickrud wants it all, and he wants it now ;P [05:31] Hobbsee: not whining, i just use the power switch thingy and all is fine :) [05:31] Documents and desktop [05:32] nickrud: patches welcome :) [05:32] and im not whining either [05:32] t0phr3: i realise that - your thing is just weird. === nickrud scuttles back under his rock [05:32] tretle_: likewise, patches welcome :) [05:32] but correct me if im wrong but the panel code isnt very complex compared to other code which has higher priority [05:32] probably not too hard to fix, either [05:33] this is true [05:33] the focus on bugfixing has recently started [05:33] previously, the focus was on getting other stuff written, etc [05:33] where do I start looking? [05:33] Hobbsee: i just can't get a frickin fresh copy installed lol [05:33] feature freeze, why I waited to yesterday to install. [05:34] everything i have is upgraded from fiesty === cheeseboy [n=Oscar@71-10-241-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:34] hi [05:35] i changed my source list to gusty and did apt-get upgrade [05:35] t0phr3: :) [05:35] and my power wen out during it [05:35] t0phr3: i'd try with the cd testing for tribe 6 === Arwen hands cheeseboy a UPS [05:35] t0phr3: or use an old tribe, and upgrade from that [05:35] and now i get permission denied for everything [05:36] t0phr3: probably more useful if you help test tribe 6, actually, if you're already running gutsy [05:36] how do i fix it? [05:36] try sudo rm the lock file it tells you [05:37] cheeseboy: please tell me your /home is on another partition [05:37] Hobbsee, how do I get to tribe 6 already? [05:37] alex_mayorg1: is prolly gonna give me permission denided on rm [05:37] alex_mayorg1: time machine. === steven__ [n=steven@c-76-20-182-119.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:37] sudo is your help as is -f [05:38] Hobbsee: i'm getting tired of waisting CDs [05:38] th0ph3r not sure but proably not === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1FBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] don't have that feature yet :( === se7en^Of^9 [n=se7enofn@125-24-138-179.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:39] th0p3r why? [05:40] do people actually checks https://iso.qa.stgraber.org ? === steven__ is now known as Sayers [05:40] cheeseboy: because if it were me, i'd start fresh [05:41] t0phr3: rewritables are your friend :) [05:41] cheeseboy: if /home had its own partition then you wouldn't have to back it up [05:41] ubuntu should have system restore [05:41] cheeseboy: indeed. write one. [05:41] i dont have anything important on /home [05:41] cheeseboy: although, i wonder how windows handles an upgrade if the power goes out. [05:42] alex_mayorg1: yes. [05:42] alex_mayorg1: what about it? [05:42] dunno but it works [05:43] just wondering if it's worth to report on it [05:43] I try to be a considerate bugger, given that I'm yet not a patcher [05:43] alex_mayorg1: report what, sorry? [05:44] Hmm, take a look at this site's color scheme: [05:44] http://www.wiebetech.com/home2.php [05:44] Orange and blue can work together, if done right. [05:44] but they don't there [05:44] too much orange === t0phr3 [n=t0phr3@nc-69-68-92-133.sta.embarqhsd.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:45] http://www.sitepoint.com/ [05:45] that's blue and orange working together [05:45] they've been moving to less and less orange though [05:45] Okay, how about just looking at the background? Nice orange, anyway. [05:46] I see no orange on sitepoint. :( === nan444 [n=kiruthik@61.8.226.148] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:46] hi === nan444 [n=kiruthik@61.8.226.148] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:46] DanaG: well, only the logo now [05:46] look in the wayback machine [05:47] Hobbsee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~alex-mayorga [05:47] What date? [05:48] Aah, 2004. [05:48] anyone having problems with the flash plugin not being detected by firefox? [05:49] I installed it via aptitude === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:49] and yet every time I go to a flash site it tries to install the plugin again [05:53] Using granparadiso? [05:53] Granparadiso doesn't see flash, for some reason. [05:56] no it's 2.0.0.6 [05:57] where to report? [06:00] hmm [06:00] feisty package menager fuzzed up my X when it did its magic === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:00] might anyone know has anything been done for that? [06:01] what happens exactly is that the bitmap moves to the left quite a few pixels [06:01] the bitmap being the image "below" the mouse in the display === dawn`chorus [n=billy@c-68-62-197-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:04] DanaG, known bug? === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1D1E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dawn`chorus [n=billy@c-68-62-197-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["the] [06:09] I don't know, actually. [06:09] Oh, and I just noticed something in Xubuntu: checked checkboxes look grayed out. [06:11] hmmm.... I was just thinking, maybe it would be good if gutsy64bit edition had the 32bit version of firefox included along with easy installation of all the plugins from the get go === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:12] that would be cool, but gutsy is now in feature freeze if I'm not mistaken === cheeseboy [n=Oscar@71-10-241-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [06:14] alex_mayorg1: it is, and i suspect tretle_'s request is unfeasible anyway, due to cd size. [06:14] tretle_: you're aware of ubuntu-restricted-extras? [06:15] What would be the implications of reverting to gnome-session 2.1.18 (as is in Feisty) ? [06:16] yes i know about restricted extras but that doesnt help very much in getting stuff like flash working on a 64bit machine [06:18] tretle_: gnash? [06:19] isn't gutsy supposed to include compiz out of the box? [06:19] gnash doesnt have flash9 support only flash 7 which is pretty much useless seeing as most things use 9 now [06:20] alex_mayorg1: it currently does. [06:20] tretle_: suggestion: complain to those who make flash, to make a linux 64 bit version. [06:21] never mind I had to enable restricted driver [06:21] Hobbsee: +1 [06:23] try here http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=fp_beta_feedback [06:24] tretle_: you're not aware that reverse engineering is very slow? [06:25] /my major peeve is the new deskbar-applet. [06:26] the backspace not working as back button on firefox is a bug or a feature? [06:27] alex_mayorg1: feature. you can change it [06:37] im not saying they are reverse engineering it too slow, fair dues to them for getting this far. it doesn't make the problem go away though and until its fixed the user should have an easy replacement to use === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:37] hence including 32bit firefox with the 64bit os === DARKGuy [n=lmao@201.208.223.217] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:38] even microsoft had to do something similar for windows xp64bit [06:38] Greetings, could somebody guide me in how to submit a package for gutsy so I can send one tomorrow or 28th max. ? [06:39] if there isnt a native 64bit solution to flash 9 support find a workaround [06:39] that simple [06:39] when a solution becomes available use that [06:39] Hobbsee, thanks [06:39] check the forums, flash works on 64bit... well at least on my feisty o.o [06:40] yes i have it working [06:40] but on firefox32bit === alex_mayorg1 [n=osito@189.156.196.251] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [06:40] tretle_: patches welcome. also, ways of making cds larger are also welcome. [06:40] but it works on 64 too o.o [06:40] not firefox 64bit [06:40] any time someone brings up an issue theres people like you with your generic cd responce [06:41] grow up === jscinoz [n=jscinoz@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:41] ..wtf? [06:41] .... [06:41] it gets anoying when you try and sugest something and people dismess it because of cd size [06:42] ..... [06:42] although, i wonder if one would then stop putting 64 bit firefox on the cd. [06:43] for instance a that flash viewer included with gutsy is pretty useless on the 64bit version without haveing 32bit firefox running to download the flash so why not replace that feature with 32bit firefox [06:43] because that requires ia32libs on the cd, doesnt it? [06:44] now that's messed up, why not to edit the flash viewer so it uses firefox64 instead? -.- it's so un-64 xD [06:44] i think there should at least be a package availablein the main repository to get firefox32bit [06:45] Is there an ETA on when Alsa on intel sound cards running under the .10 kernel will be fixed? [06:45] and a spae in yelp describing how the user can get flash working [06:45] tretle_: just checking - you have to run firefox 32 bit with ia32libs or something, or in a chroot, right? [06:46] right [06:46] hence 32bit [06:46] tretle_: how well does the chroot option work? [06:46] yeah, of course [06:46] emulation libraries [06:46] no, not ohw does it work - how *well* does it work? === DARKGuy [n=lmao@201.208.223.217] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [06:47] firefox32bit on gutsy 64bit works perfectlyworks perfectly [06:47] what package can i find "ld" in? [06:47] where as the 64bit version is pretty much useless [06:47]