=== Jazzva waits for FF3 and hates Gmail's interface blocking FF2... *sigh* [01:38] Jazzva, give granparadiso a try :) [01:38] i'm not totally off FF2 [01:38] -not+now [01:40] Yeah, I already did... and it rocks :)... The only thing is that I'm used to my extensions *sigh* [01:40] some are easy to fix [01:40] Do you know if I could manually adjust their compatible versions, like in install.rdf? [01:41] yes, i did it for some addons [01:41] And the usual path to them :)... [01:41] unzip, edit, zip [01:41] the xpi files [01:41] In ~/.mozilla/somewherE? [01:41] To look there? [01:41] no === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:42] Ubulette: im home but i had to run out real fast im back [01:42] download the xpi, unzip it like a zip file, edit install.rdf, re zip the xpi, install xpi et voila [01:43] Damn... And I thought there's easier way than downloading... :) [01:43] Thanks... [01:43] oh still awake ;) [01:43] I'll give it a try... at least to get those few that I need [01:44] Hello, asac... [01:44] Jazzva, which ones, maybe I've already did it [01:44] How were your beers? [01:44] Ubulette: did you push changelog? [01:44] can't remember [01:44] asac: Lol... [01:44] but as german beers are usually good ... i think they were pretty good :) [01:45] gnomefreak, which one ? [01:45] nspr [01:45] Ubulette: BetterSearch, BetterGmail, del.icio.us, FireGPG (but this one is not really needed right now), Greasemonkey [01:45] :) [01:45] Jazzva, none. too bad [01:45] Ubulette: Ok, then I'll download them later :). [01:45] asac: what else am i putting on PPA? [01:46] hmm [01:46] i have -trunk nss and nspr [01:46] i think backports and trunk/gp builds [01:46] btw sunbird is all good [01:46] still missing the update button fix [01:46] gnomefreak: really ... what was the problem? [01:47] asac: .desktop and .postinst [01:47] dont get your hopes up [01:47] :) [01:47] ah so the update preference didn't work out yet [01:47] yeah ;) [01:47] not yet im wondering the best unobtrusive way to do that [01:47] i think we want tbird 2.0 for feisty in ppa [01:47] but if it really gets dumped at the end of this week we should probably wait a few more days [01:47] ok i think that can be handled [01:48] asac: thats what im thining [01:48] thinking [01:48] https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive [01:48] anyway ... we should definitly update wiki to tell the world that our previous repo is currently not available [01:48] the background tells it all [01:49] gnomefreak: maybe try a feisty build ... just to verify that all works as expected [01:49] k [01:49] e.g. punch -trunk nspr to feisty ppa :) [01:49] just to see if all works out well [01:49] the new nspr? [01:49] otherwise, I think we are pretty done with testing the ppa features [01:49] Jazzva, maybe you can try editing directly the install.rdf in your profile [01:49] the nspr-trunk [01:49] gnomefreak: whatever yoiu want ... since feisty doesn't even have old one its your turn to decide [01:49] asac: k [01:50] Ubulette: I'll give it a try :)... [01:50] Ubulette: is there anything you have in nss nspr that would prevent feisty builds? [01:50] gnomefreak: it should just build [01:50] gnomefreak: even on dapper i guess [01:50] Jazzva, not sure if the one in the extentions/{foo}/install.rdf is enough or if you also need extensions.rdf [01:50] ok ill run them tomorrow for feisty [01:51] it has nearly zero build-depends ... so unless we run into a gcc bug we should be fine on any distribution [01:51] asac: Do y [01:51] Damn... [01:51] gnomefreak, should work, providing no dep issues [01:51] builddeps [01:51] Jazzva: what do you want to know? [01:52] (sorry didn't keep track of your conversation ... i am not really capable of multi-tasking atm :)) [01:52] asac: Do you have some link on how to submit packages from Ubuntu to Debian :)? I've been looking on http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/ but didn't find what I need... [01:53] Jazzva: which package do you want? [01:53] asac: Understood... I also had to change batteries on my kbd, so it wasn't working properly for a minute (that's what "Damn" was for) [01:53] Jazzva: if there is already a maintainer then you should submit patches ... otherwise ask me (or someone else) to sponsor [01:54] asac: Well, gnome-voice-control 0.3... (it will be packaged soon). It needs pocketsphinx, which I will package now for Ubuntu, and then submit to Debian too... [01:54] Jazzva: is there a debian package already=? [01:54] Nope... [01:54] otherwise you should open an ITP [01:54] please open an ITP ... otherwise someone else might start working on it [01:54] There is an RFP for pocketsphinx, I said I'm packaging it for ubuntu... [01:55] I'll open an ITP... Just to get used to the procedure of sending bug reports to Debian :). [01:55] Jazzva: you want to take over long-term responsibility for that? [01:55] if so you change title to read ITP ... and change owner to you [01:55] Well, as long as I submit to Ubuntu ;)... [01:55] look at bugs.debian.org doc to see how you can change owner/title [01:56] Hmm... cool :) [01:56] Jazzva: sure ... actually i like debian bug tracker ... its still superior to lots of other bug systems out there [01:56] especially since it tracks which version of a package has the bug et al [01:56] Umm... I guess I'll like it too, as soon as I make good filters on my e-mail... [01:57] and the lack of a fail-safe web-interface for bug submission filters out a lot of cruft as well :) [01:57] What's a "cruft"? [01:57] so debian usually gets more high quality bugs ... but of course might miss some :) [01:57] "unwanted things"? :) [01:58] "malformed bug reports"? [01:58] yeah ... dirt might be another word [01:58] bug reports that just cause work without any benefit ... e.g. crap :) [01:58] Ok [01:59] asac, do we still need {nss,nspr}-svn.debian.org.trunk branches ? [01:59] Thanks, asac :) [01:59] its not that i say that we bug reports are crap ... its just that its easier to deal with people that already managed to climb the barrier of a not-so-easy bug-tracking tool [02:00] Ubulette: for now ... yes ... i requested a auto sync a few days ago ... lets wait till vcs-import run is done then we can drop those [02:01] its not essential to have them ... though good to have in bzr directly imo. [02:02] ok [02:02] my xulrunner is pushed so feel free to have a look [02:02] do you see any reasons why we wouldn't want them at all? [02:02] Ubulette: not today ... as tempted as it might be [02:03] but my thoughts are not really more worth than those of an ant atm :) ... so please excuse me ;) [02:03] np [02:04] first thing after i wake up .... still in your private branch? [02:04] nope, mt [02:04] did you already try to use --enable-system-xul for gp/trunk ? [02:04] nope [02:04] ok fine [02:04] 1st, i wanted to be sure files are organized correctly [02:06] ok i will take a look ... though i think we cannot really tell for sure until we see how well ffox 3 can build using that :) [02:06] i assume the orig to test the build is in the same place as before, right? [02:07] if so, I will test and let you know tomorrow morning [02:07] (whatever morning means on a sunday :)) [02:07] tarball is with the other [02:07] asac, i'm just concerned by /usr/bin/xulrunner, which shouls probably be a diversion from /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 [02:08] hmm [02:08] not sure if we really want to divert that [02:08] i will think about it [02:08] does xulrunner ship the unversioned bin by default? [02:08] yes [02:09] or just the versioned one? ... or both? [02:09] ah ok [02:09] just one [02:09] so installing xulrunner (1.8) and xulrunner-1.9 will be a problem [02:09] wierd ... maybe an alternative might be suitable as well then [02:10] diversion sounds a bit too radical ;) [02:10] but i will know tomorrow :)( [02:10] ok [02:10] ok Ubulette, Jazzva, gnomefreak .. 'night and cu tomorrow [02:10] 'night [02:10] Night... [02:10] asac: night === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp121-44-115-94.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:37] fuck it im going to bed feisty is gonna be a bitch [02:44] Ubulette: do you have normal .orig.tar.gz for nss and nspr im not gonna beable to build using bzr bd [02:47] all my tarballs are there http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/ [02:48] let me rsync it to be sure [02:50] i think they are fine [02:52] ok building and uploading all atm for feisty ppa will check mail in morning to see if accepted or failed [02:53] night [02:53] night [03:19] trunk failed to build in PPA for gutsy === gnomefreak will ping LP guys tomorrow or monday about it [03:28] seems i've got the same issue [03:28] cd src; /usr/bin/make -j1 libs [03:28] make[6] : Entering directory `/src/bzr/build-area/firefox-trunk-3.0a8pre~cvs20070825/build-tree/mozilla/security/dbm/src' [03:28] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [03:28] make[6] : *** [Linux2.6_x86_glibc_PTH_OPT.OBJ/db.o] Error 139 [03:29] while it worked for my bot 6h ago [03:29] not sure if that is in log or not off hand but ther eis a log if you want to compare https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=failed [03:30] ok im going to bed this time === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:30] nss for 7.04 is building atm [03:32] it's the same issue. I've built my tarball 1 or 2 hours before my bot. maybe that bug has been fixed in the middle [03:38] hmm, could be my fault if the core dump comes nsinstall [03:39] +from [03:41] bingo [03:43] i'll have a look tomorrow, you can still revert my last commit for patch bz392722_fix_nsinstall_on_double_slash.patch [03:45] .../nsinstall -D Linux2.6_x86_glibc_PTH_DBG.OBJ [03:45] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [03:45] while: [03:45] .../nsinstall -D ./Linux2.6_x86_glibc_PTH_DBG.OBJ [03:45] is okay [03:45] no slash, i got it [04:07] Well, I'm off for now... Good night everybody [04:08] Jazzva, night [04:08] gnomefreak, i've pushed the fix === Ubulette [n=Ubulette@APuteaux-153-1-94-52.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.243.205] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === cwong1 [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-8724ef68f1b9e225] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:10] Ubulette: ty for the fix have you tried to build it yet? === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === JenFraggle [n=jen@91.84.43.217] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === JenFraggle [n=jen@91.84.43.217] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:05] looking at the firefox clue file, it is still showing NEEDSINFO as one of the bug states for finding tag/status combination error bugs. Would it be ok to change it to Incomplete or does it need more tweaking? [11:11] JenFraggle: if there are others in there that are wrong i would change all of them but yes most likely when LP 1.1.9 is released it might need more work [11:11] Ok, just wanted to check. Thanks [11:17] ok uploading fixed ff-trunk to PPA it only builds 1 package(386 and 64) at a time so it might be a while. if its ok with everyone i would like the next meeting later this week after LP 1.1.9 is released with dogfood being taken away [11:17] Done now [11:18] ty :) [11:19] Bughelper is finding more bugs now [11:26] ok uploading trunk still to PPA im going back to bed its still not yet 5:30am [11:58] hehe [11:58] i thought i was the only one awake right now [12:41] Morning... [12:42] morning === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:00] hey [02:00] hello [02:00] asac : any news on the feed bug ? [02:01] jeromeg: as i said ... its because gnome-support package is empty ;) [02:01] haven't looked into why its empty ... but should be more or less trivial to fix [02:01] asac : yep yep I know, just wanted to know if there is any progress on that [02:01] ok [02:02] ... if things go to slow you can always boost things by submitting a patch ;) [02:03] jeromeg: the bug is targetted for a milestone? [02:03] if not we should definitly do it ... then we will not forget to fix it [02:03] asac : i think you have put it as beta blocker [02:03] what is the bug id again? [02:04] asac : 2 sec [02:04] can you look if there is already a bug for empty gnome-support package ... i assume there almost certainly is one [02:04] we should merge both [02:04] asac : bug 131743 [02:04] Launchpad bug 131743 in firefox "liferea-add-feed does nothing in firefox" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131743 [02:04] asac : ok I'm on it [02:10] asac : can't find anything about it [02:10] Ubulette: why was the third nsinstall.c file missed? [02:10] Ubulette: have you run a find now ... just to be sure that there is not a forth copy of that code :) [02:10] yes, both in ff and xulrunner [02:11] only those 3 [02:12] the 3rd triggered a bug, that was caused ftbs in ppa [02:12] Ubulette: actually ... please add evaluations on what you did [02:12] they will have issues to review the patch [02:12] either don't tell about "Fix an issue with install -D foo (no slash at all) introduced by previous [02:12] patch." [02:12] or tell about exactly what was wrong et al [02:13] and remember not to use ubuntu/debian termns like cdbs / ftbfs in bugzilla reports :) [02:13] is "install -D foo (no slash at all)" not clear enough ? [02:13] they don't know about these ... and probably don't care [02:13] well ... it doesn't tell what was wrong [02:13] it just tells that it fails as well [02:14] should I clarify ? [02:14] now i see them looking at that (already pretty unreadable) code ... and don't understand whats going on [02:16] btw, building ff trunk with --with-system-nspr --with-system-nss --with-libxul-sdk=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9a8pre is strange [02:16] no idea ... you almost certainly should ask for review [02:16] if you feel confident that they have all info needed then just wait and see [02:16] personally i would add as much info as possible [02:16] how do I do that ? i was not sure how to do that.. use review "?" or "+" ? [02:16] Ubulette: huh? [02:17] ? :bs [02:17] bs ? [02:17] (:bs is a shorthand for benjamin smedgbergs email) [02:17] oh, why him in particular ? [02:17] set to ? ... and on the right hand fill in the component owner you can find in www.mozilla.org/owners.html [02:17] it should be :bs [02:17] he owns the build system [02:19] Ubulette: and remember that not naming debian or ubuntu might help to keep his opinion objective ;) [02:19] for instance he hates debian [02:19] more than the devil [02:19] ubuntu might be different though ;) [02:20] but i think it shouldn't make a difference for this one [02:21] well, in this case, it's clearly their bug, even if it's cdbs that triggered it [02:21] asac: I'll start making a pocketsphinx package, which I'll need in order to get new version of gnome-voice-control to build... Will you have time to review it once it's done (tonight, if I don't go out, or somewhere tomorrow)? :) [02:21] (and if I there are all build-deps... there are some packages mentioned in the instructions that are maybe not in Ubuntu *sighs*) [02:22] s/I\ there/there/ [02:22] asac, with --with-libxul-sdk=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9a8pre trunk's make install seems totally broken [02:22] or at least i don't get it [02:23] Ubulette: hmm [02:23] Ubulette: just because of system-nss/nspr ? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:25] asac, here is mozilla/dist : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/189230 [02:25] wow my connection really sucks today [02:25] everything is slow as hel and i constantly see a lag 5.08 in irssi [02:27] Ubulette: can you start in dist/bin ? [02:27] or is that broken as well? [02:28] what is produced by make install` [02:28] ?= === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:29] problem is in dist/bin, there's no more firefox-trunk [02:31] and dists/bin/firefox fails with "Error launching browser window: no XBL binding for browser" [02:31] interesting [02:31] whats the content of firefox? [02:32] followed by "Exception: TypeError: gBrowser.mTabContainer has no properties" [02:32] isn't it the content of browser/app/mozilla.in anymore? [02:32] it's a binary [02:32] probably not because that one would be named firefox-trunk [02:32] so where is it from? [02:32] oh [02:32] so its now nsBrowserApp.cpp ? [02:33] or even something else [02:33] can you find the firefox binary in source tree outside dist/ ? [02:35] hmm [02:35] $ find build-tree -name firefox\* -type f -perm 0755 -ls [02:35] 4507830 32 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bbot bbot 32680 Aug 26 12:07 build-tree/mozilla/dist/bin/firefox [02:35] none [02:36] Ubulette: do you have build log so you can see where its produced? [02:37] give me a sec [02:40] asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/log.txt [02:41] okay ... i cannot work that way .... let me pull the plug of my modem once this has loaded [02:41] can't tell when i will be back ... if bad luck its not the modem, but my provider, which might cause problems logging in again [02:42] k [02:42] Ubulette: cp /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9a8pre/bin/xulrunner-stub ../../dist/bin/firefox [02:43] looks like its in make install of /src/bzr/build-area/firefox-trunk-3.0a8pre~cvs20070825/build-tree/mozilla/browser/app [02:43] should be a bug [02:43] does renaming that binary help? [02:43] otherwise we would have to look in the xulrunner-stub i guess [02:43] (code) [02:44] but i think it probably looks at $0 ... :) [02:44] ok now off [02:44] taking a shower as well [02:44] btw, they dump the full xulrunner into ff, that's crazy [02:44] so will be a few [02:44] (cd /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9a8pre/bin && tar -cvhf - .) | (cd ../../dist/bin/xulrunner && tar -xf -) === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:51] hmm looks better now [02:51] now shower [02:52] Ubulette: yes thats indeed a bit wierd ... but i think its because its not yet 100% ready [02:52] and most likely because windows is such a pita [02:52] :) [02:52] we should create a link [02:53] hopefully those files go there unmodified [02:53] otherwise it would be pretty much useless [02:53] ok out for a while again [03:05] when dependencies.txt is attached to a bug, does that show addons that are installed? [03:10] asac, there's SKIP_COPY_XULRUNNER used in browser/app/Makefile but not defined anywhere :( === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:25] i'm out too. sports time. weather is excellent :) [03:27] Ubulette: have fun [03:27] JenFraggle: no ... in gutsy we explicitly attach addons/plugin info [03:28] JenFraggle: before we always need to ask [03:28] ok, just looking at a bug where there is the dependencies file and wondering if asking for addons would be duplicating the info. ty [03:31] if there is just dependencies.txt you need to ask ... yes. [03:57] Ubulette: maybe just use make install SKIP_COPY_XULRUNNER=1 ? [03:57] (in debian/rules/ [03:57] ) === asac_the_2n1 [n=asac@e177170072.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_the_2n1 is now known as asac_the_2nd === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac__ [n=asac@d107195.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [05:41] asac: Umm... I've noticed that the ubufox isn't updated... Well, in case you've missed it (I've said it only once at 2 or 3am IIRC :)) I fixed the bug and pushed the new revision to my branch. :) [05:52] back [05:52] Welcome back... [05:55] asac, nss-trunk installs /usr/lib/nss/libnssckbi.so while ff-trunk+xul looks for this lib in usual lib paths [05:56] not sure if I misplaced it or if we need to patch the loader [06:04] Ubulette... I can use PPA to build the packages I need and to use them, right? :) [06:04] I mean, for testing purposes... [06:06] right [06:07] And how long does it take to build them? [06:11] you're queued and as soon as one of the two boxes is idle, it pops one request from the queue. [06:12] Ok... Thanks for the info :) [06:12] basically, you just wait in line [06:12] Jazzva: ok will update today (next slot) [06:12] Jazzva: can you just provide a patch for that single checkin? [06:12] asac: Cool :) [06:12] Jazzva: everything else should go to next upstream release (e.g. 0.4.1)= [06:12] and we probably don't want it for this quick fixup [06:13] Umm... ok [06:13] You want a debdiff? [06:13] Jazzva: no [06:13] just a patch ... e.g. bzr diff -r REV2..REV2-1 [06:13] Hmm... Ok :) [06:13] of course a full debdiff is better [06:13] but i can do the package update then [06:14] Jazzva: there are two more things I would like to see in ubufox 0.4.1 ... better layout of plugin finder dialog results (e.g. currently the icons are directly after text ... but they should probably be aligned to the right) [06:15] the second i can't remember atm ;) [06:15] Umm... I think you wanted multi-page wizard :) [06:15] ah right ... if you are not in the admin user group (e.g. you cannot install things) ... apt results should not be displayed ;) [06:16] when we have both, we are ready for gutsy imo [06:16] then 0.5 will be for gutsy+1 [06:16] but i have to figure things out with mofo ... they are a bit unhappy atm :/ [06:16] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35127/ [06:16] mofo? [06:17] No, please don't use that diff :) [06:17] mozillla foundation ... or moco (...corporation) ... whatever you want [06:18] Oh... good luck [06:18] asac, how do you communicate with mofo ? [06:18] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35128/ [06:18] i mean, where can i read what they have against ubunut ? [06:18] asac: Ok, it's fine now :) [06:19] Ubulette: through my proxy :) [06:19] e.g. my dedicated contact [06:19] which finally is mconnor [06:20] (owner of browser module) [06:21] i don't really want to discuss with them, reading their critics/reco would be enough [06:21] so at least i don't work in a direction they're clearly opposed to [06:22] Ubulette: there are no general critics ... [06:22] its basically ... don't patch firefox unless you get at least a review+ [06:23] for changes we cannot submit, because their are ubuntu specific ... i need permission from mconnor [06:24] i have some more contacts a bit higher in the foodchain to escalate ... but luckily I didn't need to get them involved so far. [06:24] brb... smoke [06:24] Ubulette: actually what we do with trunk is definitly what they like ... do it the way they want. [06:25] did you already communicate on that ? ff3 /w xul ? [06:25] Ubulette: just a bit ... but since I currently have no definite results I have not many points to make :) [06:25] Ubulette: in general they are ok with us building firefox against xulrunner [06:26] of course the same permission/review procedure needs to be done for xulrunner as well then [06:26] hm, so we walk alone in the dark until we have something ? === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:32] yeah that sucks [06:32] 18:24 < Ubulette> did you already communicate on that ? ff3 /w xul ? [06:32] 18:25 < asac> Ubulette: just a bit ... but since I currently have no definite results I have not many points to make :) [06:32] 18:25 < asac> Ubulette: in general they are ok with us building firefox against xulrunner [06:32] 18:25 < asac> of course the same permission/review procedure needs to be done for xulrunner as well then [06:32] 18:25 < asac> because it might diminish the firefox experience if we patch xulrunner to a dead end :) [06:32] 18:26 < asac> and actually ... I don't like to carry patchsets [06:32] 18:26 < asac> i just want this thing to rock! [06:32] 18:26 < asac> Ubulette: is there anything you want to know? [06:32] anything i missed? [06:34] i just said in the middle of this: hm, so we walk alone in the dark until we have something ? [06:34] Ubulette: more or less ... though I don't think that we walk alone here ;) [06:34] its not like we can mess things up seriously [06:35] without noticing that we patch around a lot :) [06:35] asac: https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive [06:35] everything built [06:35] Ubulette: that you for the quick ff-trunk fix last night [06:35] gnomefreak: ok cool ... looks like i need to get more quota for mt archive in the long run [06:35] asac, i just would like to be sure that ff3 is ready for that xul thing or it's still a work in progress [06:36] Ubulette: its ment to be ready [06:36] Ubulette: if there are issues its our obligation to figure out ... submit bugs/patches et al [06:36] asac: yeah we will need more than 1 gig im sure but lets wait until released [06:36] Ubulette: as mofo will not ship external xulrunner ... as they fear problems on windows [06:37] asac, yeah but we messed up their scheme for nss/nspr with our soname and loader patch, same with gp/trunk when we removed the version from install dir [06:37] they are still unsure though if they ship the dist directory of a --with-libxul-sdk build ... or just plain as what we have for gp now [06:37] Ubulette: yes ... nss/nspr i have to figure out ... though I doubt that its a real issue. [06:38] their main concern is compatibility ... which we can easily achieve by setting up in pkglibdir links [06:38] what loader patch do we have? [06:39] the /usr/lib/nss/ patch [06:39]