=== Nixus_Maximus [n=simon@i577B5CA6.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Nixus_Maximus [n=simon@i577B5CA6.versanet.de] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === hugolp [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === hugolp [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:22] irw [03:22] oops === hugolp [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Tari__ [n=Tari@mke-66-97-121-63.milwpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-71-193-246-120.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:22] tgm4883_laptop, whats the deal?? [06:22] lol [06:22] superm1, hows it going [06:22] theres a deal? [06:22] yea...you were gonna donate to the server fund [06:22] :) [06:22] I think it's buy one get one free for toilet paper === tgm4883_laptop smacks head [06:22] I totally forgot, started watching a movie [06:23] whats the address again [06:23] I'll do it right now [06:23] nickj.fox@gmail.com [06:23] ok [06:23] sec [06:23] k [06:23] ok I lied, I can't do it right now === tgm4883_laptop isn't exactly on his own wireless network if you know what I mean [06:24] I just emailed myself though so I will remember [06:25] ok [06:37] so how are things going tgm4883_laptop [06:39] pretty good [06:39] just waiting for a call [06:39] need to rest this weekend [06:39] aren't you from Oregon? [06:39] foxbuntu [06:40] nope [06:40] Iowa [06:40] hmm [06:40] someone's from Oregon [06:40] and now they live on the east coast === tgm4883_laptop shrugs [06:40] eh [06:40] I don't really know [06:41] anyway, we went to OMSI today and most of their computers are Mac's, the 1 windows computer they had was being worked on, and they had 1 Edubuntu computer [06:41] I thought that was pretty cool [06:41] oh [06:41] what is OMSI? [06:41] OMSI stands for Oregon Museum of Science and Industry [06:42] It's a pretty cool place [06:42] omsi.edu [06:42] foxbuntu: You in? [06:42] I hope he is [06:42] otherwise I'm talking to whoever has broken into his house [06:43] troy_s, sure am, I was just gonna hit you up [06:43] whats up? [06:43] just a small exploration of the font logo styling [06:44] and trying to work towards a palette. [06:44] oh yeah? [06:44] foxbuntu: Let me hit you with a few of them... [06:44] check me email is waht you are saying [06:44] ok [06:48] foxbuntu: ok check your gmail in a minute [06:48] foxbuntu: running off for now. [06:48] foxbuntu: hit me back with your thoughts. they are all more or less just explorations on chrome. [06:48] troy_s, sounds good [06:48] catch you later [06:50] foxbuntu: pretty sure that is what you are looking for in some capacity [06:50] foxbuntu: the main issue will be evolving a palette around a chrome base etc. [06:50] anyways... [06:50] out for about an hour. [06:50] later === Pogonip [n=Jeff@208-106-7-96.dynamic.calweb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === dns_56 [n=dns@ppp246-215.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === dns_56 [n=dns@ppp246-215.static.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Ex-Chat"] === dns_ [n=dns@ppp246-215.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:19] does anyone know where the mythtv irc channel has gone? === dns_ is now known as dns_56 === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugolp [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Blink_Omega [n=per@h127n3c1o986.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Blink_Omega_ [n=per@h127n3c1o986.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:48] superm1: isn't ubuntu-mythtv-frontend supposed to disable the screen saver? [01:48] mine still turns on (using IEGD as the display driver, though) === dablitz [n=root@bas1-london14-1128758280.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:54] good morning [01:54] is there anyone awake this mroning [03:11] yes [03:11] :> [03:29] Morning laga === hugol1 [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:34] morning cornell [03:38] How are you on the contents of .lircrc? [03:38] huh? [03:39] Do you know what the stuff in the file mean? [03:40] www.lirc.org knows [03:40] button = is the button on the remote? And config = is the "command" to be passed. [03:41] go to www.lirc.org it's all described there [03:41] RIght, I was typing when you entered that === marC-- is now known as pushpop === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:47] superm1: in and out; saw the SRU bugs -- how does it work for universe, does it just need a single sponsor? is there no motu-sru team? [05:48] also, I added a comment to the mythtv one -- can you get me links (or instructions) to do the SRU builds? The debdiff is showing the orig differences, but I'd like the new orig itself. :) === Tari_ [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === spiderworm [n=spiderwo@blender/support/spiderworm] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === spiderworm [n=spiderwo@blender/support/spiderworm] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [06:04] keescook, actually i already dput them last night. i didn't comment that in the bug though [06:05] it was late late (like 4am my time) [06:05] superm1: oh! hehe. [06:05] i tested the feisty ones in a vm [06:05] the edgy still need to be tested [06:05] so i havent dput yet [06:05] I'll test feisty on my real system once I can get at the build [06:05] morning superm1 [06:06] tgm4883_laptop: thanks for the comment on my blueprint [06:06] morning laga [06:06] no prob [06:07] I also fixed a typo in one, and then realized it probably updated someone [06:07] it was the mythtv doc blueprint [06:07] keescook, at this point just need to wait for the archive admins to ack it i [06:07] believe [06:07] tgm4883_laptop: thanks [06:08] superm1: cool === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:07] keescook, i'm having some internet troubles. one of my routers and cat5 cables appear to have died [07:07] i'll be back in a bit === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === alpaca [n=alpaca@75.110.203.45] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:20] hey-o [08:23] has mythbuntu been updated w/the new mythtv update for schedules direct? === rambo3 [n=stone123@c-9ef871d5.027-6-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:29] where is my chess? === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:38] tgm4883_laptop, thanks! That's a start [08:38] I gtg however...later === rambo3 [n=stone123@c-9ef871d5.027-6-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Lmnar"] === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === rhpot1991 [i=rhpot199@204.8.45.14] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:11] anyone active? === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugol1 [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:12] whew. allegedly all is working again. [09:13] I decided to upgrade to the weekly builds of mythtv from mythbuntu, and now I constantly have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend needing to be upgraded [09:13] I upgrade it and it goes through without failing but never leaves the upgrade list, any ideas? [09:13] rhpot1991, hm that's an odd one [09:13] your using weekly builds on the PPA? [09:13] or back from when mythbuntu.org served them [09:14] deb http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu feisty [09:14] is what I put in [09:14] is that address still correct? [09:14] right. okay so that's the PPA [09:14] for now yes [09:14] i'm waiting for the full out PPA launch to give out the new one [09:14] its doing it on 2 of my boxes actually [09:14] new one, 0.20.2? [09:14] well actually that will be on official ubuntu repos [09:15] as soon as it clears the archive admins [09:15] but after that the weekly builds will still do svn co's [09:15] I was getting annoyed with random things in the official ubuntu repos not working === hugol1 [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [09:16] i uploaded the stable release update for 0.20.2 last night to feisty-proposed [09:16] so you'll be able to grab it as soon as archive admins ack it [09:17] nice, good work [09:17] thanks for all the work you do [09:17] i'm glad to do it, i like to see things working :) [09:17] its my understanding mythweather is still busted in that, correct? [09:17] Not in our packages [09:18] our == mythbuntu, or official ubuntu? [09:18] both [09:18] hmmmm I must have missed it getting fixed then, I installed the revamp by hand a while back [09:18] well our fix isn't in -fixes [09:19] it was taken from trac [09:19] but never applied [09:19] it makes it use weather.com instead [09:19] ah ok [09:20] where does apt store the packages after it downloads them? [09:20] /var/cache/apt/archives [09:23] is there any way to get rid of the packages not authenticated error? [09:23] s/error/warning/ [09:29] well yes but not yet [09:29] it's because PPAs aren't signed [09:30] once the full PPA goes live, i'm going to mirror them at atrpms [09:30] and sign them there [09:36] hmmm just did a complete removal of ubuntu-mythtv-frontend and reinstalled it, still nagging me about upgrading it [09:40] atrpms! [09:43] rhpot1991, can you post the terminal output on a pastebin [09:43] hi Daviey [09:43] yes on atrpms :) [09:43] blasphemy eh? === Daviey shudders [09:43] hey superm1 [09:43] axel is going to mirror us there [09:43] why-o-why atrpms? [09:43] what is pastebin? [09:43] because axel is cool, and offered to [09:43] !pastebin } rhpot1991 [09:44] !pastebin | rhpot1991 [09:44] rhpot1991: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [09:44] fait nuff.. does seem somewhat *evil* tho [09:44] I bet axel converts them to rpms and insits people use alien ;) [09:44] haha [09:45] to the outside world, no one will know they are really on atrpms [09:45] they will end up on a mythbuntu.org subdomain [09:45] ah === Daviey feels a heck loads more comfortable [09:45] lol [09:46] ie downloads.mythbuntu.org? [09:46] well something to that effect [09:46] i still have to determine how to rsync an http site [09:46] if its possible that is [09:47] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35163/ === rhpot1991 hopes he did that right [09:47] frontend runs fine, I'm looking at tv as we speak [09:48] that's really odd [09:48] looks fine there [09:48] ya [09:48] well once the next batch gets uploaded see if it persists [09:48] install goes fine, but it doesn't know it [09:48] alright [09:49] thanks for the help [09:50] no prob [10:00] superm1: Well i scrapped my US VPS - the atlantic link was far too slow [10:00] Daviey, that was quick [10:00] So getting a UK one - therefore i can become a UK mirror [10:00] that works [10:00] then foxbuntu will be the US one [10:00] and i dont know where polorix.net's mirror is [10:01] Daviey, you got a little to try to solve an issue that probably only needs an intuitive sed script? [10:01] sure [10:01] okay grab the mythbuntu-livedisk branch [10:03] you should get revno 10, which i just pushed a bit ago [10:03] url for the lazy.. [10:04] gutsy or feisty you on? [10:04] both [10:04] which one are you doing this checkout from [10:04] got it.. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-livedisk [10:05] yea but you need to do bzr+ssh [10:05] if you're on gutsy [10:05] erm feisty [10:05] or sftp on feisty [10:05] and do a bzr co [10:05] not bzr branch [10:05] foxbuntu, you here? [10:07] okay Daviey here is what is the issue. during the install process, everything part of mythbuntu-live is marked autoremovable. so you need to find a way to do a query for the depends on http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/superm1/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mythbuntu-meta/mythbuntu-live_0.1~ppa1_i386.deb, and modify the dpkg database for each of the direct dependencies of mythbuntu-live to not be auto removable [10:08] eeeek [10:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/130578 discusses it [10:08] Launchpad bug 130578 in mythbuntu "Aptitude thinks all mythbuntu packages are unused and wants to remove during upgrade or installing of new packages" [Undecided,New] [10:08] i'm imagining there is a way to dpkg-query the depends info [10:08] once the deb is installed [10:08] there *must* be a cleaner way [10:09] well not that i can immediately think of [10:13] superm1: where in the script do you think this should go? [10:13] right after mythbuntu-live is installed [10:13] #Step H: install everything else [10:13] ? [10:14] i would say the easier way to turn off this behavior is with some apt preference to not mark a package as auto removable [10:14] but that would have a bad side effect [10:14] that all the dependencies of the packages mythbuntu-live depends on will have the same thing happen [10:14] which is less than desirable [10:14] hmm.. maybe it is possible to set the on a particualar package [10:14] well perhaps you can /query that? [10:15] i've got the rest of the CD in shape right now with the new ubiquity [10:15] new myth [10:15] including control centre [10:15] etc [10:15] don't we want all the depends of mythbuntu-live set non-autoremovable? [10:15] right [10:15] but not the depends of those depends [10:16] ah.. good point [10:17] now the only way that i can think that might be cleaner is if they are set as recommends on mythbuntu-desktop, but that involves some extra work with the seeds, which is less preferable then this at the current point [10:18] because the definite behavior can't be tested until it clears the archive [10:18] its still in source NEW [10:24] listing the depends is done.. now i just need to do the dpkg magic [10:25] how to set them non autoremovable is shown in that bug i linked [10:27] edit /var/lib/apt/extended_states ?! [10:27] I'm sure there must be a dpkg way [10:27] well that's why i think a sed script would be the way to go here [10:28] probably a sed script in a for loop? [10:28] that edits it in place [10:28] using sed -i [10:28] I'll keep that in mind.. but i'll see if i can find a dpkg way first [10:28] k [10:48] superm1: so if `apt-get remove mythbuntu-live` gets called - it shouldn't remove the depends, right? [10:48] Daviey, it is removed by ubiquity [10:48] just remove the meta, mythbuntu-live [10:48] nothing should be marked auto removable after that [10:48] so remove it [10:48] and then see if everything else is marked autoremovable [10:48] if it isn't then, things are right [10:49] I might have a solution, brb [10:52] right done.. but it is untested [10:53] Think of a way i can test it (easily)? [10:54] Build the iso [10:54] and then inside the build directory [10:54] remove mythbuntu-live [10:55] thought so :)# [10:55] well i mean that is the easiest way though.. [10:58] I will have to chroot into the */build and apt-get remove mythbuntu-live then [10:58] right [11:14] superm1: pm + flood [11:14] huh? [11:20] woo hoo, I signed up for SD today [11:20] SD? [11:20] schedules direct [11:20] ah.. awesome [11:21] yep [11:21] so i am ready for that switch [11:21] is it free and as good as zap was? [11:21] not free, but should be as good ad zap [11:21] its $15/3 months [11:21] supposedly they are aiming for $20 year [11:21] geez.. is it a new biz? [11:22] ie a myth'er who saw an oppertunity? === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:22] yea [11:22] it's a few mythtv guys and some other [11:22] schedulesdirect.com i think [11:22] wonder where they got the schedules from.. probably zap wholesale [11:22] TMS [11:23] superm1, knows more about it than I do though [11:23] I'll stick with my free UK 14 day lisitings.. ty :) [11:23] i'd stick with free listings too if they were availabe [11:23] but I dont have a problem with a small monthly fee [11:24] its isaac richards, another mythtv dev, and two xmltv devs [11:24] they're not turning a profit on it [11:25] good community effort! [11:26] I wonder how long it will take for the listings to be mirrored tho :( [11:27] to be mirrored? [11:27] ? [11:27] it is still using TMS servers [11:27] just a secure connection [11:27] It's up and running [11:27] afaik [11:28] schedules direct? Yes it is [11:28] I mean, what would stop tgm4883_laptop using his subscription, and mirroring the data in a format xmltv can understand? [11:28] and the new 0.20.2 version was uploaded to feisty-proposed last night. as soon as archive admins ack it [11:28] Daviey, my understanding is the "Don't walk on the grass sign" [11:28] if you see that analogy [11:29] I don't quite follow.. :S [11:29] well say in a public park [11:29] there is a sign that says dont walk on the grass [11:29] no one enforces it [11:29] oic [11:29] but a majority of the people dont do it [11:30] sure you'll have a few guys here and there that disregard it [11:30] Yeah.. it would be a shame if it does.. cause obv. it increaces the cost for the rest of you [11:30] yep [11:30] Presumably the more people who sign up, the cheaper it gets - if they are non-profit [11:30] I'd like to think alot of hte people using myth have a certain set of morals/ethics here [11:30] Daviey, yes [11:30] their target is 20 USD/year [11:31] but they could come down significantly with time [11:31] well i believe after the initial rush of pepole who sign up [11:31] with enough users it *could* be $1 per/year [11:31] we'll see where it will go [11:32] superm1: did you see my last pm, regarding the bzr commit? [11:32] Daviey, No, must have missed it [11:32] let me see [11:32] regarding commenting [11:34] superm1: commited [11:35] Daviey, ok pulling. I have to wait for mythbuntu-default-settings to clear the archive, and then this should be ready to do testing with to announce alpha4 this week [11:36] ooh Daviey that's some really pretty magic there :) [11:36] ;) [11:36] as they say KISS [11:36] Daviey, can you close the bug then too? [11:36] K.I.S.S [11:36] mark it as fix released [11:36] will do [11:36] KISS? [11:37] Keep it simple stupid [11:37] haha [11:37] yes [11:37] well glad you did it then, because my sed magic that i played out in my mind was much uglier [11:38] one thing tho - this only works with fresh installs [11:38] yes that's right [11:38] Which is a problem.. [11:38] well at this point, we dont have a full out release, so i dont know id say its a problem [11:39] okay [11:39] now come after the release in oct/nov [11:39] thta may change [11:39] but for now i say no worry [11:40] Hmm [11:40] fix released, or fix commited? [11:42] bug 130578 [11:42] Launchpad bug 130578 in mythbuntu "Aptitude thinks all mythbuntu packages are unused and wants to remove during upgrade or installing of new packages" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130578 [11:43] Done.. [11:43] okay yea fix released is fine [11:43] its in our scripts now [11:43] so the future isos will cover it [11:50] in the mythbuntu packages, does mythweater work correctly within mythweb? [11:51] rhpot1991, within mythweb i dont know for sure. I haven't tried there :) [11:52] hmmm, I installed the packages and they work again, but its not working under mythweb and I dunno if I have some of the revamp junking it up still or if it just doesn't work === hugol1 [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:57] Do people actually _use_ mythweather?! [11:57] i would lean towards the latter [11:57] because the patch only patches mythweather, not mythweb === Daviey thought it had novelty value [11:58] its nice to be able to show it to my fiance as a feature and part of the reason I had to spend money on a multiple box setup here [11:59] haha [12:01] Daviey, so do you know any method to mirror a http site's directory contents? [12:01] so i can mirror a ppa to atrpms? [12:02] erm [12:02] directory contents? [12:02] ie, all linked files on a page? [12:02] well so say you browse the mythbuntu ppa right now [12:02] all the files that are listed when you browse it [12:02] won't wget do that? [12:02] will it? [12:02] yeah.. has a recursive option aswell [12:05] wll that appears to work somewhat [12:05] except its grabbing all these extra html files [12:06] and the ../ and ./ [12:06] oops [12:06] thats bad === Daviey_ [n=dave@ubuntu/member/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:13] superm1: my VPS is now active, so I can mirror and sign now [12:14] Daviey, do you want to host packages or ISOs then? [12:14] both [12:14] okay i'll have to get bendailey to setup another subdomain for you then [12:15] the PPA that we are mirroring from is going to change really soon [12:15] so until it does, i dont want to announce the URLs [12:15] cool [12:15] but for now, this is what needs to be mirrored [12:15] http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ [12:15] if you can sort out how to have wget mirror that and child directories only [12:15] then we're golden [12:16] but i accidently mirrored all of ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net when i tried [12:17] eeek [12:17] since every page has a "Parent Directory" url [12:17] eeek [12:19] haha i didn't realize you could smack ubotu [12:19] ubotu, *smack* [12:19] Ouch, that hurt! [12:27] superm1: i've done it [12:27] :) [12:27] Daviey, how? [12:28] apt-mirror [12:28] ha [12:28] figures === dhr [n=hugh@CPE00606767ed59-CM000f9fa81660.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:34] superm1, I think we are ok on both the digg and bittorrent drupal plugins. The bittorrent one did transfer to a couple people (maybe foxbuntu), and the dev said it looked like it was working good. [12:35] okay tgm4883_laptop [12:35] we'll get them installed tomorrow k? [12:35] sounds good, I'll continue to look into why the image inline one isn't working [12:36] k [12:36] image inline will be really sweet [12:45] polorix seems really slow atm [12:45] i don't know how much he is hosting there at al [12:45] or rather unstable speeds 70Kb - 2M/s :s [12:46] haha === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-52-22.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:47] I also want to use this server to torrent the release and ISO's.. maybe set up an RSS feed on the main server to streamline [12:47] Daviey, well tgm4883 has a torrent plugin for drupal we're gonna setup tomorrow [12:47] RSS of .torrent and .iso [12:47] cool [12:47] i don't know if it does rss for .torrent [12:48] actually tgm4883_laptop do you know what permissions you need to be allowed to install plugins? [12:48] er modules [12:48] i'll give you permissions [12:48] That's good.. i used to be 'admin' then i became a 'user' after the 'rebuild' [12:48] poo i say [12:49] well there is only one 'admin' account this time around for some reason [12:49] so everyone else is an 'authenticated user' [12:49] :o [12:49] i haven't taken moments to sit down and figure out all of the drupal permissions yet [12:50] superm1: can you do a speed test to my server? [12:50] download the latest iso? [12:50] sure give me a link [12:50] (or start to gauge speed) [12:50] root of the URL you have in pm [12:51] 170k/s [12:52] pants [12:52] my internet isn't a good representation though [12:52] superm1, you have to be able to ftp in and upload them [12:52] I've heard that one of the main pipes conneting across the alantic is naff atm [12:52] tgm4883_laptop: can you do a speed test for me? [12:53] yea [12:53] pm url [12:53] ok [12:54] superm1: if this is the case, then we really need to look at geo balancing based on requestor's IP [12:54] Daviey, is that easily done? [12:54] i mean how do you split the globe in half? [12:55] dunno.. wouldn't think it would be *that* hard.. but may cause some delay on requests.. dunno [12:55] never done it [12:55] foxbuntu: Ping [12:55] IP range of each country [12:55] Daviey, I forgot, im playing Gears of War online so I may have to test later [12:55] RIght now though, Im getting between 250 and 400 kb/s [12:55] well how do you decide where like australia belongs then [12:56] or chile [12:56] tgm4883_laptop: np.. IRC with one hand.. gaming with the other?! [12:56] yep [12:56] don't forget bloggin [12:56] 3 handed [12:56] well australia being in the commonwealth 'belongs' to the uk :o [12:56] okay bad example [12:57] say instead japan [12:57] I know what you mean.. [12:57] I don't know to be honest. [12:57] What does the ubuntu repo do, i wonder? [12:58] superm1, once the modules are uploaded, you have to be able to do site building in order to enable and configure the modules [12:58] or maybe just content management for configuring [12:59] Daviey, they dont balance like that [12:59] archive.ubuntu.com is its own server [12:59] and so is us.archive.ubuntu.com [01:00] tgm4883_laptop, i'll look in a bit and see if i can figure out what you need [01:00] ok [01:00] On that URL, downloading to my home connection i am getting > 2M/s [01:04] superm1, what do you think about a donation plugin? [01:06] tgm4883_laptop, i dont know that its a good idea [01:06] ok [01:06] foxbuntu brought it up, so I just thought id pass it along [01:06] i just think it changes the dynamic of the project too much [01:07] ah ok [01:07] I don't think it would be *evil* [01:08] well in any event, foxbuntu is looking for donations for hardware [01:08] I mean, this project isn't sponsered by anybody - like some others [01:09] well but once you put money in, people expect a turn around for their money [01:10] hmm.. i'm not sure i agree there [01:10] what if the donations were for something? [01:10] If we set up a forum, we could attach 'gold stars' to sponsers [01:10] we will have a forum at ubuntuforums [01:10] tgm4883_laptop: bounty rather than sponser? [01:10] its approved already [01:11] is it?! [01:11] yea [01:11] that's news to me [01:11] its just not opened yet [01:11] Davie, no I was thinking that if we needed something (like foxbuntu needs hardware) we could then activate the donations