[01:08] i just wanted to mention that my girlfriend installed kubuntu and told me it was shit [01:09] and i still remeber whe she told me: no beryl, no sex [01:09] i've never googled so much [01:09] !language | Wizard [01:09] Wizard: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [01:10] guys, Pumpernickel is right, better move to #xubuntu-offtopic [01:10] as you wish master [01:10] im in xubuntu-oftopic dont hurt people [01:11] it is not bizzy at this moment but maybe someone read the logs and waste time with reading less relevant things === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.186.61] has joined #xubuntu === sebas_ [n=sebas@201.234.165.57] has joined #xubuntu [01:23] Hi [01:24] I've installed Xubuntu but the network card is not configured, I think that the drivers are not installed [01:24] Is it possible to install the drivers from the installation CD after doing the main install? [01:24] What model is it? [01:24] I'm not sure, it's an old ISA card [01:25] but the point is how do I install drivers? [01:25] The drivers should be installed, but the interface may not be configured correctly. [01:26] Could you pastebin the output of `ifconfig`? [01:26] !paste [01:26] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:26] sudo ifconfig would be better [01:27] well, actually I'm not using that pc.. I installed it on an old machine for my grandfather [01:27] If the problem is that the interface is not configured correctly, what can I do? [01:30] Depends on how it's configured. It may simply not have been activated, or it could be something more complicated. [01:32] I think that isa cards are not autodetected? [01:33] Pumpernickel: I remember I did # ifconfig eth0 up [01:33] but it wasn't configured [01:33] Well, I'll try to fix it another day when I'm there.. [01:33] TheSheep: Could be. [01:33] or try to get a PCI NIC === thingy [n=opera@87.127.188.33] has left #xubuntu [] === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.8.123] has joined #xubuntu === bitform [n=bitform@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/bitform] has joined #xubuntu === archypetro [n=bleh@85.92.186.22] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.8.123] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.8.123] has left #xubuntu [] === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip51cf89ac.direct-adsl.nl] has left #xubuntu [] === Jester45 [n=Jester45@75-120-50-99.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === xjkx [n=x@201009005132.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy_ [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.8.123] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.8.123] has left #xubuntu [] === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL212-29.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === thyrax [n=ndiicm@24-179-41-72.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:47] have a problem [05:48] when i try to open firefox it says window already open [05:48] anyone know how to get to the window it's not showing up [05:51] anyone know how to uninstall firefox? === Jester45 [n=Jester45@75-120-50-99.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === The_Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-247-31.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === Ed933 [n=edward@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === Ed933 [n=edward@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] === Ed933 [n=edward@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [06:40] Hello [06:41] hi [06:41] Is it possible to create a new menu shortcut [06:41] yes [06:42] how? [06:42] open mousepad [06:42] yes? [06:43] is english your only language [06:43] yes [06:43] copy [Desktop Entry] [06:43] Encoding=UTF-8 [06:43] Name=entrynamehere [06:43] so you have 3 lines [06:43] then copy [06:44] Exec=command [06:44] Terminal=false if its a gui app [06:44] Type= [06:44] ok [06:44] Icon= [06:45] and Categories= [06:45] what is type [06:45] Application [06:45] oh [06:45] so [06:45] thats the type [06:45] say I want to put in [06:46] a program named 'A' which is graphical [06:46] I have to type in [06:46] [Desktop Entry] [06:46] Encodinf=UTF-8 [06:46] *Encoding [06:46] Name=A [06:46] Exec=A [06:46] Terminal=false === Jester45 is just making this up from looking at the defualt entries [06:47] Type=Application [06:47] and for Categories [06:47] Games [06:47] so [06:47] do I need to save it [06:47] Somewhere [06:47] you say you want it in Menu -> games you would put it as Categories=Application;Games; [06:48] oh [06:48] and save it in /usr/share/applications [06:48] o [06:48] ok [06:48] nevermind [06:48] tyvm [06:48] save anywhere or open a root mousepad and copy it there [06:48] you need root power to save there [06:49] ok [06:49] so I gotta go into terminal and type in gksudo mousepad [06:49] Yeah, I new at this stuff, still learning [06:49] :D [06:49] yes no copy/paste it all [06:49] now* [06:50] the only place you can save stuff by defualt without root powers is at /home/user/ [06:50] (or ~/ in a terminal for a shortcut) [06:50] so ur home directory [06:50] yes [06:50] when I type in gksudo mousepad [06:51] it asks me 4 my password [06:51] I type it in [06:51] and nothing happens [06:51] a mousepad doesnt open? [06:51] yeah [06:51] did you type mousepad right? [06:51] what did the temrinal say [06:51] it just sat there [06:52] well [06:52] edward@linux:~$ gksudo mousepad [06:52] GNOME_SUDO_PASS**** [06:52] and that's it [06:52] click on the temrinal and press ctrl+C [06:52] yep [06:52] and try it with sudo [06:53] yeah, that better [06:53] and if THAT doesnt work save the first mousepad to your desktop as test and run sudo mv ~/Desktop/test /usr/share/applications/A.desktop [06:54] ok copy/paste to root mousepad and save in /usr/share/applications/ and save as A.desktop [06:54] replacing A with the real name [06:55] wait a little bit and it should show in the menu [06:56] Whoa nice [06:56] thnx heaps [06:56] :D [06:57] hehe and i just learned it myself now :) [07:01] :D [07:01] where r all the icons stored [07:01] I cant find them anywhere [07:02] i think usr/share/pixmaps [07:02] yep === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:09] Ed933, Incidentally 'pixmaps' is deprecated, recent packages store icons in 'icons/hicolor' [07:09] icons/hicolor [07:14] thnx === Ed933 [n=edward@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=Jester45@75-120-50-99.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === The-Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-247-31.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === The-Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-247-31.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === tommy18crowe [n=thomas@67-150-247-209.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === Ben_Cs [n=chatzill@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [08:07] hello [08:07] hello [08:07] sup? [08:11] I'm sorry, sup is one of the weird irc tokens I never got used to. What does it mean? [08:12] something weird: when installed xubuntu, the volu,e control (mixer) didn't show any controlls. then when i run vlc, the mixer recognized the soundcard, but the volume controlls like PCM when changed (volume), it didn't show from desktop view. only after restart the mixer volume and volume changed from desktop view were bound... [08:12] sup = what's up, in short [08:13] Ah, what'_sup_, thx. [08:14] talking about irc tokens: what dows "lmao" mean? [08:15] never mind. googled it [08:16] lmao = laugh my ass off [08:16] like lol [08:17] Yep, except that it makes me think of cats until I realize it's that token. :P [08:18] yes. a type of miyau [08:18] :) === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ben_Cs [n=chatzill@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [08:33] where do i put an icon theme? ~/.themes or ~/.icons or where? === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:38] never mind. found it. ~/.icons it is === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === LikeVinyl is away: Haciendo una sopa de piedra. nete a la tribu GNU/Linux. === Ed933 [n=edward@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === Ed933 [n=edward@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === dsmith_ [n=dsmith@c-76-114-154-224.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:29] hi [09:29] in trying to log into a xfce session [09:29] it says I have ben loged in less then 10 seconds [09:29] then kicks me out === Theory` [n=ok@64.233.152.29] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === Theory` [n=ok@64.233.152.29] has left #xubuntu [] === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL212-29.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp68-18.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-114-242.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip51cf89ac.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #xubuntu === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip51cf89ac.direct-adsl.nl] has left #xubuntu [] [11:47] i hope they'll build a instant search feature into thunar -_-; [11:47] it'll be so much easier to sort through my documents in a large folder that way... [11:48] m0u5e, as far as I know thunar has the instant search feature. === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:59] m0u5e, Just type a few letters and Thunar will try to find the first file beginning with those letters. [12:00] kalikiana_: for some reason its not working ;_; [12:01] kalikiana_: ohh wait, thats not what im talking about [12:01] kalikiana_: i mean like a search filter, where i type in letters (like in firefox) and it will instantly start mataching up files with those strings [12:01] kalikiana_: in the folder, ... it makes it easier fo rme to move like a bunch of files with "1881052" at the beginning, to a folder [12:02] That's exactly what it does. Otherwise yu are explaining it very wrong. :/ [12:28] thunar does need a proper search though [12:28] it only searches at the beginning of the filename === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === boogie [n=boogie@p548A1571.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp68-18.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] [12:48] xor: use meta tracker === faemir [n=faemir@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:06] TheSheep: hiho === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu [01:08] hyper_ch: hi [01:09] TheSheep: how are you? [01:09] hyper_ch: sleepy [01:09] TheSheep: yeah, it's early morning [01:09] ... [01:10] ;) [01:10] . . . [01:11] TheSheep: what you're up to? [01:12] hyper_ch: learning django at the moment [01:12] TheSheep: django? [01:12] http://www.djangoproject.com [01:13] not the music instrument then ;) [01:13] hyper_ch: no, jazz musician === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp68-18.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu [01:14] hyper_ch: Django Reinhardt [01:14] TheSheep: dunno him ;) [01:15] hyper_ch: he was good [01:15] dunno jazz at all === TheSheep pities hyper_ch [01:16] TheSheep: each one his own taste in music [01:17] TheSheep: if you wanna see mine, let me know :) [01:17] hyper_ch: it's good to have some basic understanding of one's own cultural heritage [01:18] hyper_ch: sure always eager to learn :) [01:18] i've always been special regarding my taste of music ;) [01:18] hyper_ch: everyone is special [01:19] I've never much bothered for lyrics in music... more whether I like how it sounds === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === wlfwhiterabbit [n=wlfwhite@host-84-223-96-196.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #xubuntu [01:45] hi! plese, where should i click in order to set my lan card settings? [01:45] please* [01:45] wlfwhiterabbit: Applications --> System --> Networking === Sulle_ [n=sulle@ti511210a080-5003.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [01:48] hyper_ch: yes, but my problem is that when i booted the pc wasnt linked to the router, and after having realized the link, in app-sys-net i couldn manage anything to say to my lan card "search the router and connect to it" [01:48] wlfwhiterabbit: ???? [01:50] hyper_ch: sorry... doesn't matter (now i'm chatting because it's all right, but i had to reset in order to make it work) === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp68-18.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === __Krush [n=chatzill@85.232.194.197] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === boogie [n=boogie@p548A1571.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === pcfascist [n=pcfascis@74-33-84-241.dr01.jrdn.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === MagicFab is now known as fabian === fabian is now known as MagicFab === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === orbit7 [n=martijn@cp562554-b.landg1.lb.home.nl] has joined #xubuntu === loak [n=kvirc@ALyon-153-1-55-27.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === foxray [n=foxray@109.169.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:13] i hear its possible to convert from ubuntu to xubuntu but is it possible to keep the gnome ubuntu as well? [04:16] That's the easiest way to do it, actually. Getting rid of the Gnome parts is harder. [04:16] Install the 'xubuntu-desktop' package, and you'll have everything that makes Xubuntu what it is. [04:16] wasn't the whole reason of xubuntu [04:16] to get rid of the gnome dependencies? [04:17] i kinda have a low end computer a P3 700mhz and original ubuntu runs kinda sluggish on it [04:17] Within itself, yes. But you can still install anything from Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, et al inside it. [04:18] The packages don't conflict (much). [04:18] no use to debian just yet, i'm a rhel admin for a living [04:18] so debian is unfamiliar territory === foxray [n=foxray@109.169.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === yotux [n=nathan@24-196-133-163.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === wlfwhiterabbit [n=wlfwhite@host-84-223-95-254.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #xubuntu [05:07] does anyone know howto change usplash settings [05:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto [05:09] Pumpernickel: Thank you have install xubuntu and splash res to out of my lcds spec range === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === thingy [n=opera@87.127.188.33] has joined #xubuntu === jeff_hann [n=arares@89.34.99.191] has joined #xubuntu === evge [n=evge@85.91.129.124] has joined #xubuntu === laserbeak43 [n=laserbea@c-69-243-81-81.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === illu45` [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === illu45` is now known as illu45 === wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-88-152-131-253.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:48] Hello, could someone here help with a gcc-config/c compiler problem on gutsy? [05:49] illu45: What's the issue? [05:51] Well, I'm trying to get sound to work on my T61, following the steps here, as the easy fix didn't work: http://tinyurl.com/36khy7, and when I try to configure the patched alsa, it says: C compiler cannot create executables. When I run gcc-config, it says command not found. [05:53] illu45: Have you installed the build-essentials package? [05:53] hm, not sure. [05:54] Er, I can't seem to find it in the repos. [05:54] !info build-essential [05:54] build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB [05:54] ...voila. === Jester45 [n=Jester45@75-120-50-99.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:55] oops..my mistake. there was no s at the end...correct pkg name is build-essential [05:55] ah, ok [05:55] Nope, don't have it yet. Will give that a try :) [05:56] when did tribe 5 get released [05:57] Hm..a few days ago, I think [05:58] Sometime about the 23rd, I think. [05:59] illu45: To give you a more accurate idea of whats involved in compiling alsa drivers from tar balls, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [05:59] illu45: it says you will also need the ncurses-dev gettext and linux-headers-`uname -r` [06:00] thingy, ah, all right, will take a look at it. That seems to have solved the C compiler problem, though, so thanks for the help :) [06:00] Hm... it seemed to get through the configure without any problems. Will install those if it fails to make, though === ricky90 [n=ricky@81-208-83-244.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:04] how can I disable the "desktop zoom"???? I haven't compiz fusion, only ubuntu server + xfce [06:05] please [06:13] ricky90: how do you do this zoom feature? ctrl + alt + + ? [06:14] nothing :( [06:14] eh? [06:14] how do you activate this desktop zoom features? [06:15] I haven't activated nothing [06:15] what keys are pressed or mouse actions done? [06:15] I have only installed xfce on ubuntu-server [06:16] the max resolution on my ibook 12 inch is only 1024 x 768 [06:16] ricky90: ok is your monitor operating at some low resolution like 800x600 and you want it to be higher like 1024x768 etc? is that what you mean by desktop zoom? [06:16] no no [06:16] ok i give up then [06:16] i dont know wha tyou mean [06:16] The desktop is zoomed [06:16] and when I go to the margin with the mouse [06:17] the screen moves with the mouse [06:17] sorry for my english [06:17] ricky90: The problem is that your Virtual desktop value is > then the screen res. to fix it you need to modify the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file [06:18] ricky90: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and tell us what your screen resolution is === Riot777 [n=riot777@aasl218.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #xubuntu [06:19] then: I set 800x600 there isn't this effect. But the max resolution on Mac OSX is 1024x768 [06:19] I want to use that resolution... [06:20] ricky90: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and pastebin /var/log/X*.log (i forget what its actually called) === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [06:22] whats git? [06:23] linus's source code management system [06:23] is also a rude word in the uk [06:23] oh [06:23] yeah it's what we used to call annoying kids in miami [06:25] thingy, do you by any chance know how to install the gnome sound manager in xubuntu? [06:26] illu45: no. Haven't done that. That would definitely bring in a lot of gnome dependancies though. How come you want to install it? [06:26] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35130/ [06:27] Yes, I was afraid that it would. Well, the howto I'm following uses it, and I can't seem to find an equivalent for a "switches" tab in the xfce sound manager [06:27] howto link, if you want to see it: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=159516&page=1&pp=15 === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:28] illu45: you can use alsamixer to do the same thing [06:29] illu45: use left right arrow keys in alsamixer to move between the settings and use the m key to mute/unmute or the up down arrow keys to increase decrease volume [06:29] illu45: or you can use amixer and specify params to it do the same thing [06:29] illu45: youll have to man amixer to find out the params since i dont recall them off hand [06:29] thingy, ah, all right. I'll take a look at that, thanks. [06:30] illu45: alsamixer might be in the alsa-utils package in case you get a command not found === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [06:30] ricky90: whats the model of the mac you have? [06:30] Ah. No, I can launch alsamixer without any trouble, but I only see a Master and PCM slider, which are both unmuted and set to 100. [06:31] ibook G4 12 inch [06:31] illu45: have you modifed the modprobe.conf file and added the options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=thinkpad bit? since that bit my specify some more mixers [06:31] you will need to unload and reload the modules [06:32] Hm. I added that line in, yes. But I don't think I reloaded the module. [06:33] Should a system reboot do it? [06:33] yep [06:34] ah, ok [06:35] thingy, if I do a xorg-reconfigure it's the same thing? [06:36] ricky90: I was looking at your xorg.conf file and its ok...your using the fb driver and the log reports that 1024x768 is a supported mode === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [06:37] ricky90: but it then says that the mode isn't a default mode...i suspect its the HorizSync 28-51 [06:37] VertRefresh 43-60 lines which may be stopping X from setting the mode to 1024x768 [06:38] ricky90: can you comment out lines 104 and 105 in the pastebin which are in your xorg.conf file and reboot the box [06:38] ok I do it and shoutdown. Thanks a lot for your support [06:39] I have a enormeus headache [06:39] thingy, hm, I've added the line (and rebooted now), but I still have no sound and only two sliders in alsamixer. I'm guessing that I messed up the patch? === Ben_Cs [n=chatzill@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [06:41] hello [06:41] well. back to good-old xubuntu [06:41] illu45: have you tested sound? by playing an mp3 etc? [06:41] swap/an/a === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [06:42] thingy, yep. I tried both the movie and the soundbite that come as examples with the install. === ricky90 [n=ricky@81-208-83-244.fastres.net] has left #xubuntu [] [06:46] illu45: does the blurb here match what you did? http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.04_(Feisty_Fawn)_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#ALSA_driver_update_.28hard_fix.2C_recommended_for_advanced_users.29 [06:46] thingy, yep [06:47] illu45: specifically, "When doing "cp ../patch_analog.c alsa-driver-1.0.14/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/" use "cp ../patch_analog.c alsa-kernel/pci/hda/" instead Also, when you get to the part about modifying the modprobe.conf file, it doesn't exist in ubuntu. Adding "options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=thinkpad" to any file (even one you make yourself) inside etc/modprobe.d should work. I personally added it to the options file, and it works fine." === yotux [n=nathan@24-196-133-163.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:48] Yes, I figured they made a typo in the cp command. Although I'm not sure about the file modification [06:49] I just used "gksudo mousepad /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base" and appeneded that line to the end of the file [06:50] illu45: try this: sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel; sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel index=0 model=thinkpad [06:50] illu45: does that produce a change in the mixers shown in alsamixer? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === laserbeak43 [n=laserbea@c-69-243-81-81.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:51] thingy, it says "ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use" [06:52] illu45: hmm are you playing anything or is there a sound server running? [06:53] thingy, hm... Not playing anything, no. Not sure about the sound server, though [06:54] the xfce4-mixer-plugin is running... Trying to kill it now. [06:55] ah, ok [06:55] Hm. The command runs fine now, but no change in alsamixer, no [06:56] illu45: I read a bit more of that fedora forums post. Did you install all the patches to the alsa tarball? It actually recommends to just get the cvs version of alsa since it has everything already in it [06:57] Hm, I think I only got the patch_analog.c patch... I was looking for the cvs version of alsa, but couldn't seem to find it. [06:58] illu45: there are three patches: Fix Oops with AD1984 thinkpad model [06:58] Fix AD1984 basic model [06:58] Fix Thinkpad X61/T61 outputs [06:58] would the "rsync -avz --delete --exclude=.hg* rsync://alsa.alsa-project.org/hg [your_directory] " command work? [06:58] illu45: lemme see if there is already any instructions on compiling cvs alsa in ubuntu [06:59] Ah, all right, thanks [06:59] illu45: here this looks good: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3210562 [07:00] illu45: see the post by socrates.wei [07:00] Hm, ok. Looking at it now === wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-88-152-131-253.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:02] Hm, on the alsa-project.org link that he specifies, the download link says "This is the link to the main ALSA drivers, not the CVS versions.", is that all right? [07:05] illu45: The instructions are what need to be followed to get the cvs version. the link indeed only points to the releases [07:06] is there a linux alternative to soulseek? [07:06] Ben_Cs: what's soulseek? [07:06] Ben_Cs, try http://www.sensi.org/~ak/pyslsk/ [07:07] thanks [07:07] thingy, ah, all right. So the I can use the link to get the release, and then follow the instructions to sync with the cvs version? [07:10] illu45: umm you could just run the rsync commands instead since otherwise if the release and cvs folder structure don't match it will re-download things again anyway [07:11] thingy, ah, ok [07:14] So, once I've done the rsync, I should just go into my alsa dir and run ./configure, etc, or will I have to go into all of the components' dirs and run ./configure etc. in each one? [07:16] Or, rather. Should I run ./configure etc. in just the alsa-driver dir, or in all of the components? [07:16] just in the alsa-driver dir [07:17] ah, ok [07:18] illu45: nice soulseek client [07:18] Erm, it seems there's no configure file in the alsa-driver dir [07:19] illu45: "Run the autoconf command to create the configure script" [07:19] Ben_Cs, ah, I haven't used it much. Don't use soulseek often. [07:19] thingy, ah, oops. Thanks :) [07:24] thingy, hm, sorry, one more thing. When I run ./configure --help, I don't see any --with-cards options. This is the output I get: http://pastebin.com/d3c6344d7 === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:26] illu45: did you have to install automake/autoconf and libtool? [07:27] thingy, yes, I installed automake/autoconf manually. Installing libtool now as well. [07:28] it could be a typo i think...since they are asking to do a configure --help and the next line is asking to do a cvscompile --with-cards=emu10k1,usb-audio so...what does the output of cvscompile --help produce? [07:28] if it starts compiling then ofcourse ctrl-c it :-) [07:29] all right, will try :) === The_Kernel [n=thomas@67-150-255-77.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:30] thingy, ah, ok, that gives me a --with-cards list. Not sure which one to pick, though. [07:31] illu45: pastebin the list [07:31] thingy, http://pastebin.com/d4f3bef35 [07:32] illu45: you need hda-intel i think [07:32] ah, ok. Will try that [07:32] gxine crashes after i click close after config wizard. part of error code: The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. any ideas? [07:33] illu45: for the options, just enable all options [07:36] thingy, well, it seems to have compiled and installed fine. [07:37] Ben_Cs, I've never had much luck with gxine, sorry. [07:38] ok [07:38] thingy, I'll try a reboot and see what happens :). [07:38] Ben_Cs: gxine is buggy. Use the xine-ui package instead [07:39] !info xine-ui [07:39] xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1483 kB, installed size 3532 kB === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [07:41] xine sucks use vlc or mplayer [07:42] thingy, hm... still no sound, and I can't seem to open alsamixer. Gives this error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device [07:43] illu45: pastebin the output of lsmod, sounds like the modules didn't load [07:45] argh...where did I put my xubuntu cd...blast! [07:45] thingy, lsmod pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d5939cb5 [07:47] illu45: yep it hasn't loaded your sound card module...it shouldve been snd-hda-intel i think [07:47] illu45: can you check /lib/modules/blah to see if snd-hda* exists somewhere in that tree [07:47] sure [07:47] illu45: find /lib/modules -iname "snd-*" for example [07:48] thingy, output: http://pastebin.com/d705318f5 [07:48] seems to exist [07:48] hmm there it is: /lib/modules/2.6.22-10-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel [07:49] so what happens when you do a modprobe snd-hda-intel options suff here thinkpad somethign somethign === boogie [n=boogie@p548A1571.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [07:50] you mean "options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=thinkpad" ? [07:50] in modprobe.d? [07:50] yep that [07:50] so do a modprobe snd-hda-instal index=0 model=thinkpad [07:51] Hm... "FATAL: Module snd_hda_instal not found" [07:52] illu45: is there a update-modules or modules-update command in ubuntu? im rebuilding my box and so i dont have access to an installation at the mo. [07:52] or you could do a depmod -a i think [07:52] but do a update-modules if it exists [07:53] Er, did you mean dong "modprobe snd-hda-intel index=0 model=thinkpad" ? [07:53] yes [07:53] but if its says snd_hda_install not found it could mean that modules depedancies are outta whack [07:53] Ah, all right. That gives a different error: "FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-10-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)" [07:54] update-modules gives no errors [07:54] after doing the update-modules [07:54] do a depmod -a as well [07:54] and then retry the modprobe command [07:54] same thing? [07:54] no errors for depmod -a [07:57] illu45: well? === Ben_Cs [n=chatzill@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [07:58] ah, sorry, yes, same error [07:58] sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel index=0 model=thinkpad [07:58] FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-10-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [07:58] how do i search for a file in xfce? [07:59] illu45: can you remove the parameters in both the modules.conf file in /etc and from the cli when you type in the modprobe command [07:59] illu45: basically am trying to determine if the paramaters we're specifying is whats causing the message or is it a missing symbol [08:00] ah, so just do a sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel (and remove the other two parameters in the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file as well?) === cheeseboy [n=Home@24-107-235-119.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:00] illu45: yes [08:01] hi dhcliassigns me an ip but i still have no internet what do i do? [08:01] illu45: after removing the stuff in alsa-base(just comment it out) also do a update-modules and depmod -a === ricky90 [n=ricky@81-208-83-244.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:01] cheeseboy: can you ping your gateway? [08:02] thingy, now I have started the pc and it's all ok. Thanks. You're a genie === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu [08:02] ricky90: heh [08:02] really! === thingy goes looking for my lamp [08:02] :D [08:03] thingy, still gives me the same error: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel [08:03] FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-10-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [08:03] illusha@illusha-la [08:04] illu45: anything interesting in dmesg? [08:06] thingy, long output. I don't see much, but here's a pastebin of the end: http://pastebin.com/d5ce2c1db === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [08:07] thingy no says operation not permitted [08:07] cheeseboy, try running it as root [08:07] or use sudo [08:07] illu45: same thing [08:08] o.O [08:08]