| thumper | s-x-u: re: xubuntu users team, it could be that the xubuntu users team isn't actually associated with any bugs or specs in Launchpad | 12:45 |
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| s-x-u | thanks | 12:45 |
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| s-x-u | about asking a question to a team ? | 12:46 |
| thumper | s-x-u: as far as asking questions, I don't think teams are targets | 12:46 |
| thumper | you ask questions on projects | 12:46 |
| thumper | not teams | 12:46 |
| thumper | AFAIK | 12:46 |
| s-x-u | ok thanks /// i do not understand the last word im dutch | 12:48 |
| spiv | mpt: no | 12:49 |
| thumper | s-x-u: As Far As I Know | 12:49 |
| s-x-u | ok thanks | 12:51 |
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| tj9991 | hey everyone, I was hoping that I could contact someone about a translation template taking quite some time to import. I moved my project to a different name which uses the same template three days ago | 01:48 |
| tj9991 | I can't get any translation done while it is in the queue, and I wanted to know if someone could speed it along, as I already had the previous template approved | 01:49 |
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| _gpg_ | hi | 02:44 |
| _gpg_ | i aked this question few months ago, but well, I would like to know if Launchpad will be open source in the feature, any one got any related links about this fact please ? | 02:46 |
| _gpg_ | good night | 02:49 |
| spiv | _gpg_: https://launchpad.net/faq | 02:53 |
| _gpg_ | Sourceforge is open source | 02:53 |
| _gpg_ | ty for the answer btw, the text didnt change for a while, honeslty i prefere to read "we dont want to open the code and we dont care" rather the to read "Sourceforge" | 02:56 |
| _gpg_ | see you later | 02:56 |
| mpt | _gpg_, as I understand it, the code sourceforge.net runs is quite different from the open-sourced code | 03:04 |
| mpt | but anyway, we are actively planning to open the Launchpad code | 03:04 |
| mpt | there just isn't a definite date for it. | 03:04 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #134997 in malone "Clicking "Add a comment" doesn't immediately let me do so" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134997 | 07:05 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #134998 in malone "Clicking assignee field's radio button should focus the field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134998 | 07:15 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #135002 in launchpad-answers ""Ask a question" form doesn't auto-focus the "Summary:" field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135002 | 07:30 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #135006 in malone ""Also affects distribution/package" doesn't focus distribution menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135006 | 08:30 |
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| carlos | morning | 08:33 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #135008 in rosetta ""Languages in Launchpad" page doesn't auto-focus search field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135008 | 08:50 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135009 in blueprint "Search field isn't auto-focused on Blueprints front page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135009 | 09:00 |
| mpt | whoa | 09:12 |
| mpt | thumper or jml, tell me about registering branches you're not the author of | 09:13 |
| mpt | How often does that happen? | 09:13 |
| jml | mpt: I don't know. | 09:15 |
| jml | mpt: it's entirely possible. | 09:15 |
| mpt | I see that it's possible | 09:15 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135010 in launchpad-bazaar "Green links in project cloud aren't explained" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135010 | 09:15 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135012 in launchpad-bazaar "Search field isn't auto-focused on Code front page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135012 | 09:15 |
| mpt | e.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesh/+addbranch | 09:15 |
| mpt | I was just surprised | 09:16 |
| mpt | but I guessed it might be possible, from the awkwardness of the sentence beginning the form for registering your own branch | 09:16 |
| mpt | "Register a new Bazaar branch whose author is Matthew Paul Thomas." | 09:16 |
| mpt | as if that's not what I'm doing already :-) | 09:16 |
| jml | mpt: you mean something different from what I thought you meant. | 09:19 |
| jml | I'm not sure if I like this feature. | 09:19 |
| mpt | well | 09:21 |
| mpt | Is it morally different from getting a Bazaar import of a project? | 09:21 |
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| mpt | I suppose it makes misattributing branches easy | 09:25 |
| spiv | mpt: Well, it seems it has the potential for causing mischief, by allowing random people to attribute arbitrary work to other people. | 09:25 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135014 in launchpad-bazaar ""Register a branch" page begins with awkward sentence" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135014 | 09:26 |
| spiv | It'll still be "owned" by the actual registrant, but the owner can reassign it. | 09:27 |
| spiv | So that does seem dangerous. | 09:27 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #135015 in launchpad "Search field isn't auto-focused on front page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135015 | 09:35 |
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| unimatrix9 | translators around? | 09:46 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135018 in launchpad "Search field isn't auto-focused on Projects page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135018 | 09:50 |
| unimatrix9 | well thanks ubotu | 09:51 |
| unimatrix9 | :) | 09:51 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135020 in rosetta "Clicking "Add more lines" doesn't auto-focus the newly-expanded field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135020 | 09:55 |
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| gnomefreak | anyone know what the following error means? bzr: ERROR: Selected-file commit of merges is not supported yet: files debian/changelog | 10:25 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135022 in launchpad-bazaar "TestCase.run_bzr loads plugins by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135022 | 10:25 |
| gnomefreak | nevermind it was wrong package :( | 10:28 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #135026 in launchpad "duplicate pptp projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135026 | 11:00 |
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| mpathy | Hi there | 11:59 |
| mpathy | how can I delete a project I registered in launchpad? | 11:59 |
| mpathy | I found no link for that | 11:59 |
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| jordi_ | mpathy: request the project to be hidden via a question. | 12:02 |
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| pin17931 | Hi, import of an external svn repository for the opendental project failed. I was told to ask here for more info. Anyone can help? | 12:13 |
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| mpathy | jordi: Is it really that... cumbersome? | 12:21 |
| mpathy | thats a feature every other platform hast | 12:21 |
| mpathy | -t | 12:21 |
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| jordi | mpathy: apparently "remove" operations are quite complicated, due to the big amount of info the database holds. | 12:37 |
| jordi | if a project holds translations, for example, they would be shared across LP for others to benefit from them; removing them would be complicated, and is not yet supported as in "removing". For now, they are hidden. | 12:38 |
| jordi | pin17931: with a bit of patience, someone will. | 12:38 |
| mpathy | okay | 12:43 |
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| pin17931 | jordi: ok, I'll wait | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | do we have a date for release of PPA? | 12:47 |
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| seb128 | hi | 01:57 |
| seb128 | carlos, danilos: could one of you look at bug #135051 and comment? | 01:57 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135051 in gcalctool "Dutch upstream translation not included" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135051 | 01:57 |
| carlos | I will take a look | 01:58 |
| seb128 | thanks | 01:58 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135052 in rosetta "assertion failure in POTemplateURL.__init__" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135052 | 02:05 |
| carlos | seb128: that's no sense | 02:06 |
| seb128 | carlos: what do you mean? | 02:06 |
| carlos | seb128: it's fully translated in Launchpad (at least for Gutsy) | 02:07 |
| carlos | and there is just one message that doesn't match what upstream has | 02:07 |
| carlos | seb128: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gcalctool/+pots/gcalctool/nl/+translate | 02:07 |
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| carlos | seb128: and same in Feisty | 02:08 |
| seb128 | carlos: might be due to the fact that language packs are outdated | 02:08 |
| carlos | and Dapper... so I don't really see any problem in gcalctool... | 02:08 |
| seb128 | Version: 1:7.10+20070803 | 02:09 |
| carlos | that's not so outdated... but maybe, yes | 02:09 |
| seb128 | do you know why they are not updated weekly nowadays? | 02:09 |
| carlos | because changes on PPA, Martin told me that they will not be updated while he's on out | 02:09 |
| carlos | hmmm | 02:10 |
| carlos | he did an update last week though... | 02:10 |
| seb128 | is he still updating them daily somewhere? | 02:10 |
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| carlos | seb128: he's using PPA, he built new packages around 19th this month and told me that was last version until he's back | 02:11 |
| seb128 | k | 02:12 |
| seb128 | thanks | 02:12 |
| carlos | so either it's blocked on the approval queue | 02:12 |
| carlos | or something went wrong and the upload to the archive failed | 02:12 |
| seb128 | the upload failed most likely | 02:12 |
| carlos | will you answer that user? | 02:12 |
| seb128 | yes | 02:13 |
| carlos | ok, thanks | 02:13 |
| seb128 | I'll talk to him on IRC | 02:13 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 02:13 |
| seb128 | thank you for looking at it | 02:13 |
| carlos | if there is something else that I'm missing, please ping me again | 02:13 |
| carlos | np | 02:13 |
| seb128 | will do | 02:13 |
| pin17931 | (sorry for asking again:) Hi, import of an external svn repository for the opendental project failed. I was told to ask here for more info. Anyone can help? | 02:14 |
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| seb128 | carlos: do you know when the current translation has been imported? | 02:37 |
| carlos | let me check... | 02:40 |
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| carlos | seb128: it was not imported recently, it's there since, at least, 2007-04-13 (at least translations that changed something in Launchpad) | 02:42 |
| carlos | seb128: also, there is another file waiting to be imported | 02:42 |
| seb128 | carlos: that's weird | 02:42 |
| seb128 | the upstream translation has been updated in july and august | 02:42 |
| seb128 | and we uploaded the new versions corresponding | 02:43 |
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| carlos | seb128: it could be that we already had those translations applied by someone else | 02:45 |
| carlos | let me see the mail log... | 02:45 |
| carlos | ok | 02:46 |
| carlos | seb128: last import in Gutsy | 02:46 |
| carlos | was done 11th August | 02:46 |
| carlos | and all translations were accepted and applied | 02:46 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks | 02:46 |
| carlos | 367 translations | 02:46 |
| seb128 | so it's likely due to the outdated language pack | 02:46 |
| seb128 | and the example he gave me seems to be the only string which has been changed on launchpad | 02:47 |
| carlos | so the complain is about changes they did that are not applied? | 02:47 |
| seb128 | yes | 02:47 |
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| seb128 | we really need to update language pack weekly | 02:47 |
| carlos | we were doing it, although the changes to production server of PPA broke that.. | 02:48 |
| carlos | so don't worry, it's not usual that we get so long to update them | 02:49 |
| bluekuja | carlos, is ppa down atm? | 02:50 |
| Fujitsu | bluekuja: What gives you that idea? | 02:51 |
| bluekuja | Fujitsu, unable to upload | 02:51 |
| bluekuja | maybe wrong address | 02:52 |
| bluekuja | Fujitsu, works fine for you? | 02:52 |
| Fujitsu | Hm, upload.dogfood.launchpad.net:21 is broken, it seems. | 02:52 |
| carlos | bluekuja: no, it's not | 02:52 |
| bluekuja | Fujitsu, yep | 02:52 |
| bluekuja | that's why I cannot upload | 02:52 |
| carlos | cprov: ? | 02:52 |
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| cprov | carlos: yes | 02:54 |
| carlos | cprov: please, read the last lines | 02:54 |
| carlos | seems like upload.dogfood.launchpad.net is now down | 02:54 |
| cprov | carlos: I'm checking | 02:54 |
| carlos | cprov: thanks | 02:54 |
| cprov | carlos: should be back. | 02:56 |
| bluekuja | cprov, thanks ;) | 02:56 |
| bluekuja | works fine now | 02:56 |
| cprov | bluekuja: nop | 02:57 |
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| carlos | cprov: :-) | 03:00 |
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| carlos | seb128: btw, I'm not sure whether you know about this new urls: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gcalctool/+imports | 03:04 |
| seb128 | carlos: no, I didn't know about it, thanks | 03:05 |
| seb128 | or I looked at something similar some time ago but I'm not familiar with it ;) | 03:05 |
| carlos | seb128: so you can see there whether there is something pending to be reviewed, or failed or even already imported (will only note that for three days since it was imported) | 03:06 |
| carlos | seb128: it's there only since last week | 03:06 |
| seb128 | you had an import queue similar to that some time ago no? | 03:06 |
| carlos | yes | 03:07 |
| carlos | we have such queue | 03:07 |
| carlos | but with everything mixed | 03:07 |
| seb128 | k, so that's probably what I looked at previously | 03:07 |
| seb128 | right | 03:07 |
| carlos | seb128: you even have https://translations.launchpad.net/people/+me/+imports now | 03:07 |
| seb128 | k | 03:08 |
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| carlos | later! | 03:08 |
| seb128 | enjoy your lunch | 03:08 |
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| soren | Recently, there's been a few bugs on my bug list that I can't remember seeing there before, and I can't figure out why they're there. E.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/14911 . I may be a subscriber (or reporter, actually) of one of the duplicate bugs, but I can't unsubscribe from this one (and hence make it go away from my bug list). | 03:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) | 03:20 |
| soren | I'm not listed in the list of subscribers, by the way. | 03:22 |
| kiko | soren, let me check. | 03:22 |
| kiko | soren, what's your launchpad username, and what's the URL of the buglist page you are looking at? | 03:23 |
| soren | username: shawarma | 03:23 |
| soren | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~shawarma | 03:24 |
| kiko | soren, ah, the reason is that we now include bugs which you have /commented on/ in that default listing | 03:26 |
| seb128 | that's not cool | 03:26 |
| kiko | I think that would be worth being customizable (what your default parameters for your bugs homepage was) | 03:26 |
| soren | kiko: I might actually find that useful.. I'd like to be able to remove it from the list if I don't care anymore.... which I don't :) | 03:27 |
| kiko | but I haven't considered it yet | 03:27 |
| seb128 | having an option would be nice | 03:27 |
| seb128 | people tend to open bugs on wrong packages | 03:27 |
| seb128 | and I don't want to have those bugs on my list just because I reassign and add a comment ;) | 03:27 |
| kiko | soren, the question is -- are you not actually interested in +subscribedbugs or +assignedbugs or +reportedbugs? | 03:27 |
| kiko | sabe for seb128 | 03:28 |
| kiko | same | 03:28 |
| soren | kiko: Good point. | 03:28 |
| soren | kiko: So the default page is the union of assigned, commented on and reported bugs? | 03:28 |
| soren | (or thereabouts) | 03:28 |
| kiko | I believe it also include bugs reported | 03:29 |
| soren | Er... and subscribed bugs. | 03:29 |
| kiko | wow, I did even worse than you. :) | 03:29 |
| soren | \o/ | 03:29 |
| soren | Hmm... That might not actually be completely braindead :) | 03:30 |
| soren | That could be useful at some point. | 03:30 |
| soren | I've just gotten used to the main bug list page is the one I want and suddenly it wasn't anymore :) | 03:30 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135061 in rosetta "Restricted manager translations not in gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135061 | 03:31 |
| kiko | yeah, which is why I'm asking whether it should be customizable or.. something else. | 03:31 |
| soren | For me, subscribed bugs would be a saner default. | 03:31 |
| kiko | directly subscribed bugs | 03:32 |
| kiko | yeah | 03:32 |
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| kiko | matsubara, I just filed a bug for https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/2007-08-26/B1248 which showed up this weekend | 03:43 |
| kiko | (so you don't have to :) | 03:43 |
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| matsubara | thanks kiko | 03:46 |
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| shirish | hi all, how do I link the upstream bug-report in the new interface? | 03:50 |
| ubotu | New bug: #135064 in launchpad "RenamedView dies when raising NotFound" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135064 | 03:50 |
| shirish | anybody, reported a bug in launchpad as well as in GNOME, now wanna track the GNOME bug-tracker, any ideas? | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: doesnt look possible anymore, or kde. | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | what a pain. | 03:53 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: thanx for the reply :( | 03:53 |
| === Hobbsee would assume you just file it under ubuntu, and use teh url field as a workaround. | ||
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| shirish | Hobbsee: for e.g. I made this bug-report https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwget2/+bug/135065 & made up-stream bug report at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470696 now how do I join the 2? | 03:57 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135065 in gwget2 "use binary prefix instead of decimal SI prefix" [Undecided,New] | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: no idea. i dont work on launchpad. | 03:58 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: ok cool, thanx | 03:58 |
| Fujitsu | shirish: You do the sane thing... `Also affects: Project' | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: not if the project isnt listed in launchpad, it seems. | 03:59 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: GNOME isn't listed in projects I'm afraid :( | 03:59 |
| Fujitsu | Right, you create the project. | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: you shouldnt have to, for a registered upstream bugtracker. | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: i'm sure we didnt used to | 04:00 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: It has been like that for at least a year... probably a lot longer. | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: you'd still be able to put in the upstream URL iirc | 04:01 |
| Fujitsu | You need a project to link it to first. | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | oh, so it does | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | what a pain | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | that's why i end up filing everything KDE under kdebase. | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | until i created the bzr dirs | 04:02 |
| Fujitsu | I think there's a bug targetted to 1.1.9 to make project registration trivial. | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | i dont see why it cant say "i have a URL to the upstream tracker here, track this" | 04:03 |
| Fujitsu | Because it needs to know what upstream is... | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | call it " KDE bug tracker" | 04:04 |
| Fujitsu | No, that's a bug tracker, not an upstream. | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | well, you can select that, still without knowing the project. or it can just parse the URL. | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | which wouldnt be hard, as it already has a list of all the registered bugtrackers. | 04:04 |
| Fujitsu | Bug trackers do not have a one-to-one mapping with projects. | 04:04 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: I need to tell it that I've already a filed a bug in the upstream bug-tracker | 04:05 |
| Fujitsu | shirish: Right, so you need to create a gwget(2) project. | 04:05 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: even if I use https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/projects/+new there is nothing about where the upstream bug-tracker | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: indeed, but one would only need to know which bugtracker it was referring to | 04:06 |
| Fujitsu | shirish: projects aren't linked to bug trackers initially... | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: rather than what package under what bugtracker | 04:06 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: No, one needs to know which project it points to, in order to have some context. | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | oh, hmmm. | 04:06 |
| Fujitsu | (yes, I'm defending LP's way of doing things... I never thought I'd see the day) | 04:06 |
| === Hobbsee thought that the context came from the project in ubuntu, actually) | ||
| Fujitsu | LP doesn't have an `upstream from Ubuntu' idea, it has the idea of separate tasks for distributions, upstream projects, and they're not related. | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | ah, true | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | how useful | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | you know, i would have thought that the fact that they were listed on the same bug did make them rather related...or at least *should* make them rather related... | 04:08 |
| Fujitsu | The only way they're related is that hitting `Also affects' will often give a sane default if links have already been created. | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 04:09 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: for name its giving me an error | 04:09 |
| shirish | Invalid name 'gwget(2)'. Names must start with a letter or number and be lowercase. The characters +, - and . are also allowed after the first character. | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: read what you pasted again. | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: and then think on it. | 04:09 |
| shirish | ah, the () are not allowed as its not told | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | correct! | 04:10 |
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| === Hobbsee should have thought up a sarcastic answer for that, she's sure. | ||
| shirish | lol | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | the whole "stupid questions deserve stupid answers" thing. | 04:11 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: agreed | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: dont worry. you're the third candidate for the stupidity award for the week :) | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: but the other two are beating you | 04:12 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: ah saddened rofl | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: the winner will probably get me hitting them over the head with a shovel. | 04:13 |
| shirish | I can picture that pretty realistically too ;) | 04:13 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: now we have 2 projects https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwget2/ and https://edge.launchpad.net/gwget/ | 04:14 |
| Fujitsu | shirish: The former isn't a project. | 04:15 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: I may still win the award | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: you havent asked who checks the bugs of $a particular launchpad team, yet. | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: and you havent asked how to do something, done the complete opposite, and then bitched about it not working. | 04:16 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: I'm trying, bear with me please | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: so no, you're not winning. | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | hahaha | 04:16 |
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| Hobbsee | hint: you dont *want* to win | 04:16 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: I have seen your pic., hence even being 'hit' by you in any way would be a nice win (wink, wink) ;) | 04:17 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: back to where we were, now what is to be done? | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: then remind me to hit you with a *very* large piece of concrete. | 04:17 |
| Fujitsu | shirish: Er, on the bug... `Also affects: Project', select project, enter URL, ..., PROFIT! | 04:17 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: with pleasure | 04:17 |
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| Hobbsee | shirish: i told keybuk this. it wouldnt be pleasurable. it would be a large piece of concrete, to the head, repeatedly. | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: you'd end up on the floor, with lots of blood pouring out of your head. | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | and in lots of pain | 04:18 |
| === Fujitsu prepares his nice metal spiky hammer thing. | ||
| Hobbsee | still, if that appeals.... | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: excellent! | 04:18 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: bliss at last, then atleast wouldn't have to sit & see how to report stuff 'upstream' rofl | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: i didnt know you wanted to be dead. i'll have to remember that. | 04:19 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: Hobbsee: finally done the deed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwget/+bug/135065 | 04:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135065 in gwget2 "use binary prefix instead of decimal SI prefix" [Undecided,New] | 04:20 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: always a pleasure to talk/banter with you | 04:20 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: thank you for your help | 04:21 |
| === Fujitsu sighs. | ||
| shirish | guys can somebody help me with framing this bug-report https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwget/+bug/134960 (not a native English speaker) | 04:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 134960 in gwget2 "progess with decimal increment as well" [Undecided,New] | 04:23 |
| shirish | not sure if 'decimal increment' is the right term/word or not | 04:24 |
| Fujitsu | shirish: I think it should be incremental, 19.0001%, 19.0002%. | 04:25 |
| Fujitsu | Come to think of it, it could probably be 19.00000[12] %... | 04:25 |
| shirish | Fujitsu: true, but I was trying so its better than now, with two decimal places after . which should be enough unless one is doing something like 20-30 GiB on a slow connection. Of course this is an assumption/presumption. | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: didnt you know, though...girls dont exist on the intarweb - so that cant be my picture. | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | !girls | shirish | 04:32 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | !girl | shirish | 04:32 |
| ubotu | shirish: Girls dont exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | 04:32 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: will have to read that for sure :) | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | indeed. | 04:33 |
| === Odd_Bloke never quite groks that Hobbsee is a girl. I always imagine her as more of a cartoon tiger... :p | ||
| Hobbsee | Odd_Bloke: green alien. | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | Odd_Bloke: like the link says, girls dont exist on the intarweb. | 04:42 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: honestly, wouldn't know what to call that. | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | hm? | 04:45 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: I know my cousin sister uses gtalk & orkut all the time | 04:45 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: as well as couple of women whom I know and are hot, so that would be extreme to say | 04:46 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: what I would say is the anonymity of the net gives people to fake whatever one wants to | 04:46 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: for all you know, I could be a 15 yr. old kid or a 50-yr. old desperate guy, who knows what or who is true for sure | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | this is, of course true. | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | this is why people often use aliases, at least until they're well into the community | 04:48 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: true, and again being well into the community doesn't make things right overnight | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | of course not | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | i still have people like you talking to me. | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | and wanting me to bash them up. | 04:49 |
| === Hobbsee didnt come to ubuntu looking for a boyfriend, incidently. | ||
| === Hobbsee doesnt particularly like people assuming that she wants one, just due to any pictures she has online. | ||
| === shirish also didn't come to ubuntu looking for a girlfriend, also | ||
| shirish | Hobbsee: but if I like somebody's picture, is that a bad thing? for e.g. if you liked I don't know 'somebody who looks like Brad Pitt' would you talk with him or not? | 04:51 |
| shirish | of course this is all virtual | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: depends. do you go up to random guys on the net and start talking to them in the same way as you would a girl who you didnt know, also on the net? | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: also, i may like their picture, but i wouldnt take it for granted that htey'd actually want me, unless they indicated that. | 04:53 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: again depends, I have made some very good friends on the net, with whom I share a lot | 04:53 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: of course, I'm not saying either way | 04:54 |
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| shirish | Hobbsee: another thing, while you think of the whole 'woman' angle on this, think of coming from a certain 'nation' & people have similar reactions. | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | huh? | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure of what you're meaning | 04:56 |
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| shirish | Hobbsee: ok, I'll try to tell you what I mean | 04:57 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, shirish: doesn't look possible anymore? what do you mean? | 04:57 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: I come from East Asia, India, and there are a few upstream projects where I try to give comments, do stuff, whatever and even after few months have passed, got accepted in the community | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: it's very difficult ot figuer where to add an upstream link to a project | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: as in, a bug report upstream to connect to a bug report on launchpad | 04:58 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, you mean "also affects upstream"? | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: what was that,yes | 04:59 |
| kiko | we could have | 04:59 |
| kiko | link to remote bug | 04:59 |
| shirish | the moment I say I come from 'India', I get the same silent treatment as said in that report, or some kind of abuse for all 'outsourcing' and what not. | 04:59 |
| kiko | but it's hard to design right because the upstream might use launchpad | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: this is true | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: yeah, true. | 05:00 |
| === Hobbsee wont make a remark about telemarketers. | ||
| kiko | Hobbsee, it might be easier if we said "Add a task" | 05:00 |
| kiko | but nobody lets me say that word | 05:00 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: see | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: still confusing as to what it acutally means. | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: true, i see your point | 05:01 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, well, we could explain what tasks were, and it'd be the only explanation necessary | 05:01 |
| kiko | i.e. nobody knew what wikiwords were before we explained them either. | 05:01 |
| === Hobbsee still dosent know what they are | ||
| shirish | Hobbsee: and I think that is partly the reason why also there isn't much activity from developing countries as in developing stuff upstream. | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: possible | 05:02 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, wikiwords? :) | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: yes | 05:03 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: I'm part of a LUG here, who's has been trying to promote Ubuntu and make people aware of IRC and stuff like that, apart from their own insecurities, I do hear stuff about this also | 05:03 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, or "bug attachments". my point is that there are certain things you learn and then end up taking for granted. | 05:03 |
| shirish | kiko: wikiwords I guess like FriendlyAlien if I'm not wrong | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: true | 05:03 |
| pin17931 | Hi, import of an external svn repository for the opendental project failed. I was told to ask here for more info. Anyone can help? | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: but based on the fact htat i *still* get confused on this stuff each time...it eihter means i'm clueless on this area of LP, or it's just confusing. | 05:04 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: another thing I have been wanting to chew, just like Fedora has Fedora Ambassador for promotion of their project, does Ubuntu have something? | 05:05 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: chew/chew on | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: probably ask the marketing team. (#ubuntu-marketing) | 05:06 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: thanx | 05:07 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: sorry for blubbering on that, don't think you wanted to hear that story | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | it's ok | 05:07 |
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| shirish | Hobbsee: take care | 05:08 |
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| carlos | cheers | 05:32 |
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| gnomefreak | is LP bzr having issues for anyone else? | 07:41 |
| kiko | not that I know of | 07:42 |
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| RainCT | hi | 08:07 |
| RainCT | is it possible to remove revision from a Bazaar branch in Launchpad? | 08:07 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: available? | 08:08 |
| kiko | LaserJock, me! | 08:09 |
| kiko | RainCT, uncommit and push again | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | kiko: ok, the bug contact thing | 08:10 |
| LaserJock | in a number of teams I'm involved with we fairly regularly change bug contacts | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | it's not an every-day thing by any means | 08:11 |
| kiko | LaserJock, so, hang on I'm on the phone with tom | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | np | 08:11 |
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| ircleuser | I have an administrative need with our Launchpad project | 08:23 |
| ircleuser | Is there anyone here that can help? | 08:24 |
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| kiko | ircleuser, yes, give me a moment. | 08:24 |
| ircleuser | ok, thanks | 08:27 |
| pparks | Kiko, I work with ircleuser as well and am available if you have any question regarding our account. | 08:30 |
| kiko | okay | 08:31 |
| kiko | so LaserJock first | 08:31 |
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| kiko | LaserJock, how many teams are we talking about? | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | sorry, was afk | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | well, there is edubuntu-bugs (I'm not admin) and motuscience (admin) and ubuntu-tex (admin) | 08:34 |
| kiko | is that all? | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | those are the ones that I'd be changing bug contacts on | 08:34 |
| kiko | I'll make you an admin of edubuntu-bugs | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | well, but my question is a bit more fundamental | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | with edubuntu-bugs I should be admin anyway | 08:34 |
| kiko | I'm failing to see fundamentals if that's the case :) | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | well | 08:35 |
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| LaserJock | team admins can do pretty much anything | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | I personally feel ok with letting people set bug contacts | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | but I'm not so crazy about letting them approve members | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | for instance | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | I can understand for the bigger teams like bugsquad and ubuntu-memebers | 08:36 |
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| LaserJock | where things can get crazy | 08:36 |
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| kiko | I think limiting both things to team admins is not unreasonable, and I challenge you to find a case where a non-admin would need to set a bug contact without asking an admin for permission first. | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | heh, I used to have people do that all the time | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | especially with motuscience and ubuntu-tex | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | when it's a team of developers or something, there's no reason to not trust your team | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | it sets a big "us vs them" thing | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | granted, bug contact is fairly trivial | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | but I don't know what else you guys are going to do in the future, you know | 08:39 |
| kiko | so | 08:42 |
| kiko | the rationale for this, LaserJock, was | 08:42 |
| kiko | setting a bug contact can cause a /lot/ of mail to be received | 08:42 |
| kiko | so it should not be generally available | 08:43 |
| kiko | it's not too much overhead to contact a team admin if you need this done. | 08:43 |
| kiko | we did not constrain subscribing the team to a bug by means of the same rationale (it's only one item generating mail) | 08:43 |
| kiko | there isn't really a fundamental principle here -- the policy is what causes the least harm and inconvenience simultaneously | 08:44 |
| kiko | and in this case this was the call made | 08:44 |
| kiko | if you can find concrete situations in which the current implementation causes significant harm and inconvenience, then we can reconsider | 08:44 |
| kiko | but so far I haven't seen convincing evidence :) | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | well, me neither | 08:49 |
| LaserJock | I was more thinking that it would be good to give team admins some flexibility | 08:49 |
| kiko | LaserJock, in customizing the team policies? we have tried as a policy to avoid customizability unless really necessary | 08:52 |
| kiko | it increases the support and documentation overhead a lot | 08:52 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: hmm, that make some sense | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | but I would think people would also find it sort of a turnoff | 08:58 |
| LaserJock | they have this service, but they can't customize it to suit their needs | 08:58 |
| LaserJock | but you're right about overhead | 08:58 |
| kiko | it makes the system harder to explain -- you need to ask the user "Do your team have option X enabled?" | 08:59 |
| LaserJock | yes, I write documentation too, I have an appreciation for that ;-) | 09:00 |
| kiko | if there was a significant drawback in not allowing it to be optional then I'd consider an option | 09:00 |
| kiko | no pun intended :) | 09:00 |
| kiko | but in general I prefer it when options model something concretely different in the real world | 09:00 |
| kiko | than a flag you set to work around something. | 09:01 |
| kiko | anyway, next up! | 09:01 |
| kiko | pparks, how may I help? | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | kiko: thanks for the chat :-) | 09:01 |
| kiko | LaserJock, it's always a pleasure to chat with someone so reasonable | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | pfft | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | I can be as stubborn as the next person | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | but I do *try* | 09:02 |
| kiko | you try to be stubborn? | 09:02 |
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| LaserJock | no ;p , I try to be reasonable | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | kiko: I just sent a followup to the list, just to wrap the discussion up | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | in case somebody searches for it in the future | 09:07 |
| kiko | thanks | 09:07 |
| kiko | thanks so much | 09:07 |
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| pparks | Sorry was in a team discussion | 09:12 |
| pparks | Are you ready for us to ask you a couple questions | 09:12 |
| kiko | pparks, sure I am. | 09:13 |
| pparks | We are the team that's responsible for the HPLIP page. | 09:13 |
| dwelch91 | https://launchpad.net/hplip | 09:14 |
| dwelch91 | The person who set up the page has left the company and we need access. | 09:14 |
| dwelch91 | he was the only admin | 09:14 |
| dwelch91 | (sorry, pparks' laptop ran out of battery) | 09:15 |
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| pparks | Okay have power again | 09:15 |
| pparks | Sorry about that | 09:15 |
| kiko | dwelch91, pparks: okay, that happens. | 09:16 |
| kiko | pparks, can I suggest you create a team to manage that page, and I'll do the necessary reassignment? | 09:16 |
| dwelch91 | can we be added as admins or reset the project? | 09:16 |
| kiko | by using a team you'll be able to delegate control of the project more flexibly | 09:16 |
| dwelch91 | ok, what are the steps? | 09:16 |
| pparks | Do you have a link as well | 09:17 |
| kiko | dwelch91, pparks: to create a team: launchpad.net/people/+newteam | 09:18 |
| kiko | you can create it and add as many members and admins as you like | 09:18 |
| pparks | ok | 09:18 |
| kiko | once that's done just tell me the name of the team and I'll reassign. | 09:18 |
| pparks | Doing that right now | 09:19 |
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| pparks | Team with hplip is already taken | 09:20 |
| dwelch91 | We created a team named "hplip-team" | 09:21 |
| LaserJock | pparks: is Aaron Albright the guy that left? | 09:21 |
| dwelch91 | how do we hook this up to the hplip project? | 09:21 |
| dwelch91 | yes | 09:21 |
| dwelch91 | he must have created the "hplip" team as well | 09:21 |
| LaserJock | it looks like he created the hplip team | 09:21 |
| dwelch91 | he needs to be removed from the project | 09:21 |
| kiko | I'll sort it out. | 09:22 |
| dwelch91 | or team, etc | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | so maybe kiko can just make you guys admins for hplip | 09:22 |
| dwelch91 | that would be fine | 09:22 |
| dwelch91 | i don't think pparks has a lp.net acct, but i di | 09:22 |
| dwelch91 | do | 09:22 |
| dwelch91 | "dwelch91" | 09:22 |
| dwelch91 | on a related topic, is it possible to purge the "answers" section of the project? | 09:23 |
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| kiko | dwelch91, meaning you wouldn't want to allow people to post questions to your team? | 09:25 |
| dwelch91 | no, we want to get rid of all the old stuff that aaron had done in there - get a fresh start - we are moving our support from sf.net to lp.net | 09:25 |
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| kiko | dwelch91, that's awesome to hear. I see now -- by purge you mean "do away with old questions", I imagine? | 09:26 |
| dwelch91 | yes | 09:27 |
| dwelch91 | its not a huge deal, but it would be nice to start with a "clean slate" | 09:27 |
| kiko | dwelch91, okay, so you're now an administrator of https://launchpad.net/~hplip | 09:29 |
| dwelch91 | great, thanks | 09:29 |
| dwelch91 | 1 more question - | 09:29 |
| kiko | dwelch91, as an admin you can add or remove people from that team by visiting https://launchpad.net/~hplip/+members | 09:29 |
| dwelch91 | i reviewed your terms of service... | 09:29 |
| kiko | I imagine one thing you'll want to do is remove Aaron from that team (I didn't do it) | 09:30 |
| kiko | I also made ~hplip (the team) own hplip (the project) | 09:30 |
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| dwelch91 | do you have the same restriction as sf.net on only allowing FOSS s/w in the project download areas? | 09:30 |
| dwelch91 | great, thanks | 09:30 |
| kiko | as you can review at https://launchpad.net/hplip/ | 09:30 |
| dwelch91 | i will shortly | 09:30 |
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| kiko | dwelch91, I'll arrange with mthaddon to delete the superfluous hplip-team now that we've established that ~hplip is what we all wanted. | 09:30 |
| dwelch91 | ok, good | 09:31 |
| kiko | dwelch91, I'm not sure we have the same restriction on the download area; it's a good question. | 09:32 |
| kiko | dwelch91, if you post a question to answers.launchpad.net/launchpad I'll make sure it gets answered. | 09:32 |
| dwelch91 | We are going to be needing to host some proprietary plugins into our FOSS driver... | 09:32 |
| dwelch91 | the overall project is FOSS, but in order to support some of our devices, we have to ship some closed source .so files. | 09:33 |
| kiko | dwelch91, I see what you mean. well, just give me a URL to the question and I'll get it answered | 09:33 |
| dwelch91 | we can't do that on sf.net, and are hoping we can on lp.net | 09:33 |
| dwelch91 | URL to the question? | 09:33 |
| pparks | I got to run | 09:34 |
| kiko | <kiko> dwelch91, if you post a question to answers.launchpad.net/launchpad I'll make sure it gets answered. | 09:34 |
| dwelch91 | oh, ok | 09:34 |
| kiko | I was referring to that | 09:34 |
| kiko | thanks | 09:34 |
| kiko | dwelch91, one last question | 09:34 |
| dwelch91 | ga | 09:34 |
| kiko | ~hplip is currently owned by aaron | 09:34 |
| kiko | should I reassign to you or someone else? | 09:34 |
| dwelch91 | he needs to be removed from the prj completely (replace w/me i guess) | 09:35 |
| dwelch91 | "dwelch91" | 09:35 |
| kiko | the owner is the same as a project administrator in all regards except for the fact that he can't be demoted | 09:35 |
| kiko | okay, I'll fix that up. | 09:35 |
| dwelch91 | thanks | 09:35 |
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| kiko | done | 09:36 |
| kiko | dwelch91, by the way, | 09:36 |
| kiko | dwelch91, you'll probably want to change the contact email address for that team (which is currently set to aaron's email) | 09:36 |
| dwelch91 | ok, will do | 09:36 |
| kiko | dwelch91, if you need any explanation of how that works just ask. | 09:37 |
| dwelch91 | i will give it a try 1st | 09:37 |
| kiko | sure thing | 09:37 |
| dwelch91 | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/12319 | 09:38 |
| kiko | thanks. | 09:39 |
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| dwelch91 | kiko, thanks for all your help | 09:40 |
| kiko | dwelch91, you're welcome; just ask if you need any guidance | 09:41 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #135153 in malone "xsane segfaults" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135153 | 11:15 |
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| mpt | ok, the person Bugs advanced search page is getting out of hand | 12:36 |
| mpt | 407 milestones listed | 12:36 |
| kiko | mpt, I asked BjornT to work on that and he blew me off! | 12:37 |
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| LaserJock | yeah, I agree it is getting more difficult to find what you want | 12:39 |
| kiko | oh, that was tags. I'm confused. :) | 12:41 |
| kiko | mpt, we should probably omit milestones from that view. | 12:41 |
| mpt | kiko, and what would be the replacement way of making them searchable? | 12:42 |
| mpt | Let's say I want to return bugs assigned to me that are targeted to any of Launchpad 1.1.9, Launchpad Bugs 1.1.9, Launchpad Translations 1.1.9, or Soyuz 1.1.9 | 12:42 |
| kiko | mpt, is that really necessary for the person view? | 12:43 |
| kiko | why don't you just visit the milestone pages? | 12:43 |
| kiko | (which is what I do) | 12:43 |
| BjornT | kiko, mpt: we should dislay on the relevant milestones (i.e., only milestones included in the bug listing) | 12:43 |
| mpt | You're suggesting I should visit four separate milestone pages? | 12:43 |
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| mpt | BjornT, that would be good. | 12:44 |
| mpt | And the same for tags, as kiko suggested. | 12:44 |
| kiko | right | 12:45 |
| mpt | At least, it would be a good start | 12:45 |
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