[12:45] s-x-u: re: xubuntu users team, it could be that the xubuntu users team isn't actually associated with any bugs or specs in Launchpad [12:45] thanks === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad [12:46] about asking a question to a team ? [12:46] s-x-u: as far as asking questions, I don't think teams are targets [12:46] you ask questions on projects [12:46] not teams [12:46] AFAIK [12:48] ok thanks /// i do not understand the last word im dutch [12:49] mpt: no [12:49] s-x-u: As Far As I Know [12:51] ok thanks === zzorn_afk is now known as zzorn === tck [n=tck@213-202-143-1.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-123-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === lamont [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #launchpad === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip51cf89ac.direct-adsl.nl] has left #launchpad [] === tj9991 [n=tslocum@c-67-183-68-252.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === tj9991 is now known as tj9992 === tj9992 is now known as tj9991 [01:48] hey everyone, I was hoping that I could contact someone about a translation template taking quite some time to import. I moved my project to a different name which uses the same template three days ago [01:49] I can't get any translation done while it is in the queue, and I wanted to know if someone could speed it along, as I already had the previous template approved === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === who_cares [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #launchpad === caravena [n=caravena@pc-197-20-47-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@82-133-115-120.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === _gpg_ [n=_gpg_@82.255.67.194] has joined #Launchpad [02:44] <_gpg_> hi [02:46] <_gpg_> i aked this question few months ago, but well, I would like to know if Launchpad will be open source in the feature, any one got any related links about this fact please ? [02:49] <_gpg_> good night [02:53] _gpg_: https://launchpad.net/faq [02:53] <_gpg_> Sourceforge is open source [02:56] <_gpg_> ty for the answer btw, the text didnt change for a while, honeslty i prefere to read "we dont want to open the code and we dont care" rather the to read "Sourceforge" [02:56] <_gpg_> see you later [03:04] _gpg_, as I understand it, the code sourceforge.net runs is quite different from the open-sourced code [03:04] but anyway, we are actively planning to open the Launchpad code [03:04] there just isn't a definite date for it. === beuno [n=beuno@201-213-91-212.net.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@213-202-143-1.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad === zzorn is now known as zzorn_sleep === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz === cprov is now known as cprov-ZzZ === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has joined #launchpad === poolie_ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === _gpg_ [n=_gpg_@82.64.129.188] has joined #Launchpad === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ is now known as superm1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-124-188-230-54.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #launchpad [07:05] New bug: #134997 in malone "Clicking "Add a comment" doesn't immediately let me do so" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134997 === caravena [n=caravena@pc-84-203-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad [07:15] New bug: #134998 in malone "Clicking assignee field's radio button should focus the field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134998 === Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-56-100.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #launchpad === caravena [n=caravena@pc-84-203-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #launchpad [07:30] New bug: #135002 in launchpad-answers ""Ask a question" form doesn't auto-focus the "Summary:" field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135002 === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ is now known as superm1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #launchpad [08:30] New bug: #135006 in malone ""Also affects distribution/package" doesn't focus distribution menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135006 === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [08:33] morning === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.37.68] has joined #launchpad [08:50] New bug: #135008 in rosetta ""Languages in Launchpad" page doesn't auto-focus search field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135008 [09:00] New bug: #135009 in blueprint "Search field isn't auto-focused on Blueprints front page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135009 [09:12] whoa [09:13] thumper or jml, tell me about registering branches you're not the author of [09:13] How often does that happen? [09:15] mpt: I don't know. [09:15] mpt: it's entirely possible. [09:15] I see that it's possible [09:15] New bug: #135010 in launchpad-bazaar "Green links in project cloud aren't explained" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135010 [09:15] New bug: #135012 in launchpad-bazaar "Search field isn't auto-focused on Code front page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135012 [09:15] e.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesh/+addbranch [09:16] I was just surprised [09:16] but I guessed it might be possible, from the awkwardness of the sentence beginning the form for registering your own branch [09:16] "Register a new Bazaar branch whose author is Matthew Paul Thomas." [09:16] as if that's not what I'm doing already :-) [09:19] mpt: you mean something different from what I thought you meant. [09:19] I'm not sure if I like this feature. [09:21] well [09:21] Is it morally different from getting a Bazaar import of a project? === stub [n=stub@tetkyo044182.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #launchpad [09:25] I suppose it makes misattributing branches easy [09:25] mpt: Well, it seems it has the potential for causing mischief, by allowing random people to attribute arbitrary work to other people. [09:26] New bug: #135014 in launchpad-bazaar ""Register a branch" page begins with awkward sentence" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135014 [09:27] It'll still be "owned" by the actual registrant, but the owner can reassign it. [09:27] So that does seem dangerous. === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad [09:35] New bug: #135015 in launchpad "Search field isn't auto-focused on front page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135015 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === unimatrix9 [n=theGrid@a62-251-25-103.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad [09:46] translators around? [09:50] New bug: #135018 in launchpad "Search field isn't auto-focused on Projects page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135018 [09:51] well thanks ubotu [09:51] :) [09:55] New bug: #135020 in rosetta "Clicking "Add more lines" doesn't auto-focus the newly-expanded field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135020 === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === mpt retires, back ~1900 UTC [10:25] anyone know what the following error means? bzr: ERROR: Selected-file commit of merges is not supported yet: files debian/changelog [10:25] New bug: #135022 in launchpad-bazaar "TestCase.run_bzr loads plugins by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135022 [10:28] nevermind it was wrong package :( === cprov is now known as cprov-ZzZ === helix84 [n=a@adsl-d81.84-47-124.t-com.sk] has joined #launchpad === helix84 [n=a@adsl-d81.84-47-124.t-com.sk] has left #launchpad [] [11:00] New bug: #135026 in launchpad "duplicate pptp projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135026 === tokj [n=tk@151.82.3.82] has joined #launchpad === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === mpathy [n=mm@dslb-084-056-182-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [11:59] Hi there [11:59] how can I delete a project I registered in launchpad? [11:59] I found no link for that === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [12:02] mpathy: request the project to be hidden via a question. === jordi_ is now known as jordi === pin17931 [n=frederik@122.8-245-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #launchpad === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [12:13] Hi, import of an external svn repository for the opendental project failed. I was told to ask here for more info. Anyone can help? === jimt [n=jim@210-54-124-155.ipnets.xtra.co.nz] has left #launchpad [] [12:21] jordi: Is it really that... cumbersome? [12:21] thats a feature every other platform hast [12:21] -t === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === lfittl [n=lfittl@office.nessus.at] has joined #launchpad [12:37] mpathy: apparently "remove" operations are quite complicated, due to the big amount of info the database holds. [12:38] if a project holds translations, for example, they would be shared across LP for others to benefit from them; removing them would be complicated, and is not yet supported as in "removing". For now, they are hidden. [12:38] pin17931: with a bit of patience, someone will. [12:43] okay === mpathy [n=mm@dslb-084-056-182-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #launchpad [] [12:44] jordi: ok, I'll wait [12:47] do we have a date for release of PPA? === jelmer [n=jelmer@a62-251-123-16.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad === Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-56-100.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === gianmt [n=gianmt@host154-108-static.187-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === meduxa [i=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === zwn1 [n=zwnj@193.189.122.196] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === doko_ is now known as doko === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [01:57] hi [01:57] carlos, danilos: could one of you look at bug #135051 and comment? [01:57] Launchpad bug 135051 in gcalctool "Dutch upstream translation not included" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135051 [01:58] I will take a look [01:58] thanks [02:05] New bug: #135052 in rosetta "assertion failure in POTemplateURL.__init__" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135052 [02:06] seb128: that's no sense [02:06] carlos: what do you mean? [02:07] seb128: it's fully translated in Launchpad (at least for Gutsy) [02:07] and there is just one message that doesn't match what upstream has [02:07] seb128: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gcalctool/+pots/gcalctool/nl/+translate === cprov-ZzZ is now known as cprov [02:08] seb128: and same in Feisty [02:08] carlos: might be due to the fact that language packs are outdated [02:08] and Dapper... so I don't really see any problem in gcalctool... [02:09] Version: 1:7.10+20070803 [02:09] that's not so outdated... but maybe, yes [02:09] do you know why they are not updated weekly nowadays? [02:09] because changes on PPA, Martin told me that they will not be updated while he's on out [02:10] hmmm [02:10] he did an update last week though... [02:10] is he still updating them daily somewhere? === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-116-151.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [02:11] seb128: he's using PPA, he built new packages around 19th this month and told me that was last version until he's back [02:12] k [02:12] thanks [02:12] so either it's blocked on the approval queue [02:12] or something went wrong and the upload to the archive failed [02:12] the upload failed most likely [02:12] will you answer that user? [02:13] yes [02:13] ok, thanks [02:13] I'll talk to him on IRC [02:13] you're welcome [02:13] thank you for looking at it [02:13] if there is something else that I'm missing, please ping me again [02:13] np [02:13] will do [02:14] (sorry for asking again:) Hi, import of an external svn repository for the opendental project failed. I was told to ask here for more info. Anyone can help? === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200-103-134-216.ctame705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === kiko-zzz [n=kiko@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.active.kiko] has joined #launchpad === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === gmb [n=graham@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad [02:37] carlos: do you know when the current translation has been imported? [02:40] let me check... === tck [n=tck@213-202-143-1.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad [02:42] seb128: it was not imported recently, it's there since, at least, 2007-04-13 (at least translations that changed something in Launchpad) [02:42] seb128: also, there is another file waiting to be imported [02:42] carlos: that's weird [02:42] the upstream translation has been updated in july and august [02:43] and we uploaded the new versions corresponding === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [02:45] seb128: it could be that we already had those translations applied by someone else [02:45] let me see the mail log... [02:46] ok [02:46] seb128: last import in Gutsy [02:46] was done 11th August [02:46] and all translations were accepted and applied [02:46] ok, thanks [02:46] 367 translations [02:46] so it's likely due to the outdated language pack [02:47] and the example he gave me seems to be the only string which has been changed on launchpad [02:47] so the complain is about changes they did that are not applied? [02:47] yes === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@146037.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #launchpad [02:47] we really need to update language pack weekly [02:48] we were doing it, although the changes to production server of PPA broke that.. [02:49] so don't worry, it's not usual that we get so long to update them [02:50] carlos, is ppa down atm? [02:51] bluekuja: What gives you that idea? [02:51] Fujitsu, unable to upload [02:52] maybe wrong address [02:52] Fujitsu, works fine for you? [02:52] Hm, upload.dogfood.launchpad.net:21 is broken, it seems. [02:52] bluekuja: no, it's not [02:52] Fujitsu, yep [02:52] that's why I cannot upload [02:52] cprov: ? === Fujitsu wonders if it's related to the move to production some time in the next few hours. [02:54] carlos: yes [02:54] cprov: please, read the last lines [02:54] seems like upload.dogfood.launchpad.net is now down [02:54] carlos: I'm checking [02:54] cprov: thanks [02:56] carlos: should be back. [02:56] cprov, thanks ;) [02:56] works fine now [02:57] bluekuja: nop === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad [03:00] cprov: :-) === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-124-065.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #launchpad [03:04] seb128: btw, I'm not sure whether you know about this new urls: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gcalctool/+imports [03:05] carlos: no, I didn't know about it, thanks [03:05] or I looked at something similar some time ago but I'm not familiar with it ;) [03:06] seb128: so you can see there whether there is something pending to be reviewed, or failed or even already imported (will only note that for three days since it was imported) [03:06] seb128: it's there only since last week [03:06] you had an import queue similar to that some time ago no? [03:07] yes [03:07] we have such queue [03:07] but with everything mixed [03:07] k, so that's probably what I looked at previously [03:07] right [03:07] seb128: you even have https://translations.launchpad.net/people/+me/+imports now [03:08] k === carlos -> lunch [03:08] later! [03:08] enjoy your lunch === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [03:20] Recently, there's been a few bugs on my bug list that I can't remember seeing there before, and I can't figure out why they're there. E.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/14911 . I may be a subscriber (or reporter, actually) of one of the duplicate bugs, but I can't unsubscribe from this one (and hence make it go away from my bug list). [03:20] Launchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) [03:22] I'm not listed in the list of subscribers, by the way. [03:22] soren, let me check. [03:23] soren, what's your launchpad username, and what's the URL of the buglist page you are looking at? [03:23] username: shawarma [03:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~shawarma [03:26] soren, ah, the reason is that we now include bugs which you have /commented on/ in that default listing [03:26] that's not cool [03:26] I think that would be worth being customizable (what your default parameters for your bugs homepage was) [03:27] kiko: I might actually find that useful.. I'd like to be able to remove it from the list if I don't care anymore.... which I don't :) [03:27] but I haven't considered it yet [03:27] having an option would be nice [03:27] people tend to open bugs on wrong packages [03:27] and I don't want to have those bugs on my list just because I reassign and add a comment ;) [03:27] soren, the question is -- are you not actually interested in +subscribedbugs or +assignedbugs or +reportedbugs? [03:28] sabe for seb128 [03:28] same [03:28] kiko: Good point. [03:28] kiko: So the default page is the union of assigned, commented on and reported bugs? [03:28] (or thereabouts) [03:29] I believe it also include bugs reported [03:29] Er... and subscribed bugs. [03:29] wow, I did even worse than you. :) [03:29] \o/ [03:30] Hmm... That might not actually be completely braindead :) [03:30] That could be useful at some point. [03:30] I've just gotten used to the main bug list page is the one I want and suddenly it wasn't anymore :) [03:31] New bug: #135061 in rosetta "Restricted manager translations not in gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135061 [03:31] yeah, which is why I'm asking whether it should be customizable or.. something else. [03:31] For me, subscribed bugs would be a saner default. [03:32] directly subscribed bugs [03:32] yeah === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad [03:43] matsubara, I just filed a bug for https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/2007-08-26/B1248 which showed up this weekend [03:43] (so you don't have to :) === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad [03:46] thanks kiko === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.26.26] has joined #launchpad [03:50] hi all, how do I link the upstream bug-report in the new interface? [03:50] New bug: #135064 in launchpad "RenamedView dies when raising NotFound" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135064 [03:51] anybody, reported a bug in launchpad as well as in GNOME, now wanna track the GNOME bug-tracker, any ideas? [03:53] shirish: doesnt look possible anymore, or kde. [03:53] what a pain. [03:53] Hobbsee: thanx for the reply :( === Hobbsee would assume you just file it under ubuntu, and use teh url field as a workaround. === gmb is now known as gmb-afk [03:57] Hobbsee: for e.g. I made this bug-report https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwget2/+bug/135065 & made up-stream bug report at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470696 now how do I join the 2? [03:57] Launchpad bug 135065 in gwget2 "use binary prefix instead of decimal SI prefix" [Undecided,New] [03:58] shirish: no idea. i dont work on launchpad. [03:58] Hobbsee: ok cool, thanx [03:59] shirish: You do the sane thing... `Also affects: Project' [03:59] Fujitsu: not if the project isnt listed in launchpad, it seems. [03:59] Fujitsu: GNOME isn't listed in projects I'm afraid :( [03:59] Right, you create the project. [04:00] Fujitsu: you shouldnt have to, for a registered upstream bugtracker. [04:00] Fujitsu: i'm sure we didnt used to [04:00] Hobbsee: It has been like that for at least a year... probably a lot longer. [04:01] Fujitsu: you'd still be able to put in the upstream URL iirc [04:01] You need a project to link it to first. [04:02] oh, so it does [04:02] what a pain [04:02] that's why i end up filing everything KDE under kdebase. [04:02] until i created the bzr dirs [04:03] I think there's a bug targetted to 1.1.9 to make project registration trivial. [04:03] i dont see why it cant say "i have a URL to the upstream tracker here, track this" [04:04] Because it needs to know what upstream is... [04:04] call it " KDE bug tracker" [04:04] No, that's a bug tracker, not an upstream. [04:04] well, you can select that, still without knowing the project. or it can just parse the URL. [04:04] which wouldnt be hard, as it already has a list of all the registered bugtrackers. [04:04] Bug trackers do not have a one-to-one mapping with projects. [04:05] Fujitsu: I need to tell it that I've already a filed a bug in the upstream bug-tracker [04:05] shirish: Right, so you need to create a gwget(2) project. [04:05] Fujitsu: even if I use https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/projects/+new there is nothing about where the upstream bug-tracker [04:06] Fujitsu: indeed, but one would only need to know which bugtracker it was referring to [04:06] shirish: projects aren't linked to bug trackers initially... [04:06] Fujitsu: rather than what package under what bugtracker [04:06] Hobbsee: No, one needs to know which project it points to, in order to have some context. [04:06] oh, hmmm. [04:06] (yes, I'm defending LP's way of doing things... I never thought I'd see the day) === Hobbsee thought that the context came from the project in ubuntu, actually) [04:08] LP doesn't have an `upstream from Ubuntu' idea, it has the idea of separate tasks for distributions, upstream projects, and they're not related. [04:08] ah, true [04:08] how useful [04:08] you know, i would have thought that the fact that they were listed on the same bug did make them rather related...or at least *should* make them rather related... [04:08] The only way they're related is that hitting `Also affects' will often give a sane default if links have already been created. [04:09] yeah [04:09] Fujitsu: for name its giving me an error [04:09] Invalid name 'gwget(2)'. Names must start with a letter or number and be lowercase. The characters +, - and . are also allowed after the first character. [04:09] shirish: read what you pasted again. [04:09] shirish: and then think on it. [04:10] ah, the () are not allowed as its not told [04:10] correct! === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.professional.rinchen] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee should have thought up a sarcastic answer for that, she's sure. [04:11] lol [04:11] the whole "stupid questions deserve stupid answers" thing. [04:12] Hobbsee: agreed [04:12] shirish: dont worry. you're the third candidate for the stupidity award for the week :) [04:12] shirish: but the other two are beating you [04:12] Hobbsee: ah saddened rofl [04:13] shirish: the winner will probably get me hitting them over the head with a shovel. [04:13] I can picture that pretty realistically too ;) [04:14] Fujitsu: now we have 2 projects https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwget2/ and https://edge.launchpad.net/gwget/ [04:15] shirish: The former isn't a project. [04:15] Hobbsee: I may still win the award [04:15] shirish: you havent asked who checks the bugs of $a particular launchpad team, yet. [04:16] shirish: and you havent asked how to do something, done the complete opposite, and then bitched about it not working. [04:16] Hobbsee: I'm trying, bear with me please [04:16] shirish: so no, you're not winning. [04:16] hahaha === zzorn_sleep is now known as zzorn [04:16] hint: you dont *want* to win [04:17] Hobbsee: I have seen your pic., hence even being 'hit' by you in any way would be a nice win (wink, wink) ;) [04:17] Fujitsu: back to where we were, now what is to be done? [04:17] shirish: then remind me to hit you with a *very* large piece of concrete. [04:17] shirish: Er, on the bug... `Also affects: Project', select project, enter URL, ..., PROFIT! [04:17] Hobbsee: with pleasure === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad [04:18] shirish: i told keybuk this. it wouldnt be pleasurable. it would be a large piece of concrete, to the head, repeatedly. [04:18] shirish: you'd end up on the floor, with lots of blood pouring out of your head. [04:18] and in lots of pain === Fujitsu prepares his nice metal spiky hammer thing. [04:18] still, if that appeals.... [04:18] Fujitsu: excellent! [04:19] Hobbsee: bliss at last, then atleast wouldn't have to sit & see how to report stuff 'upstream' rofl [04:19] shirish: i didnt know you wanted to be dead. i'll have to remember that. [04:20] Fujitsu: Hobbsee: finally done the deed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwget/+bug/135065 [04:20] Launchpad bug 135065 in gwget2 "use binary prefix instead of decimal SI prefix" [Undecided,New] [04:20] Hobbsee: always a pleasure to talk/banter with you [04:21] Fujitsu: thank you for your help === Fujitsu sighs. [04:23] guys can somebody help me with framing this bug-report https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwget/+bug/134960 (not a native English speaker) [04:23] Launchpad bug 134960 in gwget2 "progess with decimal increment as well" [Undecided,New] [04:24] not sure if 'decimal increment' is the right term/word or not [04:25] shirish: I think it should be incremental, 19.0001%, 19.0002%. [04:25] Come to think of it, it could probably be 19.00000[12] %... [04:27] Fujitsu: true, but I was trying so its better than now, with two decimal places after . which should be enough unless one is doing something like 20-30 GiB on a slow connection. Of course this is an assumption/presumption. [04:32] shirish: didnt you know, though...girls dont exist on the intarweb - so that cant be my picture. [04:32] !girls | shirish [04:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:32] !girl | shirish [04:32] shirish: Girls dont exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 [04:33] Hobbsee: will have to read that for sure :) [04:33] indeed. === Odd_Bloke never quite groks that Hobbsee is a girl. I always imagine her as more of a cartoon tiger... :p [04:42] Odd_Bloke: green alien. [04:42] Odd_Bloke: like the link says, girls dont exist on the intarweb. [04:45] Hobbsee: honestly, wouldn't know what to call that. [04:45] hm? [04:45] Hobbsee: I know my cousin sister uses gtalk & orkut all the time [04:46] Hobbsee: as well as couple of women whom I know and are hot, so that would be extreme to say [04:46] Hobbsee: what I would say is the anonymity of the net gives people to fake whatever one wants to [04:47] Hobbsee: for all you know, I could be a 15 yr. old kid or a 50-yr. old desperate guy, who knows what or who is true for sure [04:48] this is, of course true. [04:48] this is why people often use aliases, at least until they're well into the community [04:49] Hobbsee: true, and again being well into the community doesn't make things right overnight [04:49] of course not [04:49] i still have people like you talking to me. [04:49] and wanting me to bash them up. === Hobbsee didnt come to ubuntu looking for a boyfriend, incidently. === Hobbsee doesnt particularly like people assuming that she wants one, just due to any pictures she has online. === shirish also didn't come to ubuntu looking for a girlfriend, also [04:51] Hobbsee: but if I like somebody's picture, is that a bad thing? for e.g. if you liked I don't know 'somebody who looks like Brad Pitt' would you talk with him or not? [04:51] of course this is all virtual [04:52] shirish: depends. do you go up to random guys on the net and start talking to them in the same way as you would a girl who you didnt know, also on the net? [04:53] shirish: also, i may like their picture, but i wouldnt take it for granted that htey'd actually want me, unless they indicated that. [04:53] Hobbsee: again depends, I have made some very good friends on the net, with whom I share a lot [04:54] Hobbsee: of course, I'm not saying either way === gmb-afk is now known as gmb [04:55] Hobbsee: another thing, while you think of the whole 'woman' angle on this, think of coming from a certain 'nation' & people have similar reactions. [04:56] huh? [04:56] i'm not sure of what you're meaning === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad [04:57] Hobbsee: ok, I'll try to tell you what I mean [04:57] Hobbsee, shirish: doesn't look possible anymore? what do you mean? [04:58] Hobbsee: I come from East Asia, India, and there are a few upstream projects where I try to give comments, do stuff, whatever and even after few months have passed, got accepted in the community [04:58] kiko: it's very difficult ot figuer where to add an upstream link to a project [04:58] kiko: as in, a bug report upstream to connect to a bug report on launchpad [04:58] Hobbsee, you mean "also affects upstream"? [04:59] kiko: what was that,yes [04:59] we could have [04:59] link to remote bug [04:59] the moment I say I come from 'India', I get the same silent treatment as said in that report, or some kind of abuse for all 'outsourcing' and what not. [04:59] but it's hard to design right because the upstream might use launchpad [05:00] kiko: this is true [05:00] shirish: yeah, true. === Hobbsee wont make a remark about telemarketers. [05:00] Hobbsee, it might be easier if we said "Add a task" [05:00] but nobody lets me say that word [05:00] Hobbsee: see [05:00] kiko: still confusing as to what it acutally means. [05:01] shirish: true, i see your point [05:01] Hobbsee, well, we could explain what tasks were, and it'd be the only explanation necessary [05:01] i.e. nobody knew what wikiwords were before we explained them either. === Hobbsee still dosent know what they are [05:01] Hobbsee: and I think that is partly the reason why also there isn't much activity from developing countries as in developing stuff upstream. [05:02] shirish: possible [05:03] Hobbsee, wikiwords? :) [05:03] kiko: yes [05:03] Hobbsee: I'm part of a LUG here, who's has been trying to promote Ubuntu and make people aware of IRC and stuff like that, apart from their own insecurities, I do hear stuff about this also [05:03] Hobbsee, or "bug attachments". my point is that there are certain things you learn and then end up taking for granted. [05:03] kiko: wikiwords I guess like FriendlyAlien if I'm not wrong [05:03] kiko: true [05:03] Hi, import of an external svn repository for the opendental project failed. I was told to ask here for more info. Anyone can help? [05:04] kiko: but based on the fact htat i *still* get confused on this stuff each time...it eihter means i'm clueless on this area of LP, or it's just confusing. [05:05] Hobbsee: another thing I have been wanting to chew, just like Fedora has Fedora Ambassador for promotion of their project, does Ubuntu have something? [05:05] Hobbsee: chew/chew on [05:06] shirish: probably ask the marketing team. (#ubuntu-marketing) [05:07] Hobbsee: thanx [05:07] Hobbsee: sorry for blubbering on that, don't think you wanted to hear that story [05:07] it's ok === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad [05:08] Hobbsee: take care === shirish out === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.26.26] has left #launchpad [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> out [05:32] cheers === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === bac [n=bac@canonical/launchpad/bac] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-48-90.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@56.Red-88-1-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@213-202-152-240.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === oojah [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === samiam [n=samurai@74-134-144-215.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #launchpad === iwj [n=ian@83.228.187.81.in-addr.arpa] has joined #launchpad === popey [n=alan@ubuntu/member/popey] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #launchpad === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [i=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #launchpad === soren [n=sh@ubuntu/member/shawarma] has joined #launchpad === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #launchpad === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [07:41] is LP bzr having issues for anyone else? [07:42] not that I know of === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has joined #launchpad === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #launchpad [08:07] hi [08:07] is it possible to remove revision from a Bazaar branch in Launchpad? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad [08:08] kiko: available? [08:09] LaserJock, me! [08:09] RainCT, uncommit and push again [08:10] kiko: ok, the bug contact thing [08:11] in a number of teams I'm involved with we fairly regularly change bug contacts [08:11] it's not an every-day thing by any means [08:11] LaserJock, so, hang on I'm on the phone with tom [08:11] np === ircleuser [n=fveqjc@15.252.10.137] has joined #launchpad === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === pparks [i=pparks@nat/hp/x-1e0bc2b886e2da15] has joined #LaunchPad [08:23] I have an administrative need with our Launchpad project [08:24] Is there anyone here that can help? === Rinchen1 [n=joey@71-211-140-82.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #launchpad [08:24] ircleuser, yes, give me a moment. [08:27] ok, thanks [08:30] Kiko, I work with ircleuser as well and am available if you have any question regarding our account. [08:31] okay [08:31] so LaserJock first === ircleuser is now known as dwelch91 [08:31] LaserJock, how many teams are we talking about? [08:33] sorry, was afk [08:34] well, there is edubuntu-bugs (I'm not admin) and motuscience (admin) and ubuntu-tex (admin) [08:34] is that all? [08:34] those are the ones that I'd be changing bug contacts on [08:34] I'll make you an admin of edubuntu-bugs [08:34] well, but my question is a bit more fundamental [08:34] with edubuntu-bugs I should be admin anyway [08:35] I'm failing to see fundamentals if that's the case :) [08:35] well === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad [08:35] team admins can do pretty much anything [08:35] I personally feel ok with letting people set bug contacts [08:35] but I'm not so crazy about letting them approve members [08:35] for instance [08:36] I can understand for the bigger teams like bugsquad and ubuntu-memebers === bac_afk [n=bac@rrcs-67-79-191-211.se.biz.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [08:36] where things can get crazy === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad [08:36] I think limiting both things to team admins is not unreasonable, and I challenge you to find a case where a non-admin would need to set a bug contact without asking an admin for permission first. [08:38] heh, I used to have people do that all the time [08:38] especially with motuscience and ubuntu-tex [08:38] when it's a team of developers or something, there's no reason to not trust your team [08:39] it sets a big "us vs them" thing [08:39] granted, bug contact is fairly trivial [08:39] but I don't know what else you guys are going to do in the future, you know [08:42] so [08:42] the rationale for this, LaserJock, was [08:42] setting a bug contact can cause a /lot/ of mail to be received [08:43] so it should not be generally available [08:43] it's not too much overhead to contact a team admin if you need this done. [08:43] we did not constrain subscribing the team to a bug by means of the same rationale (it's only one item generating mail) [08:44] there isn't really a fundamental principle here -- the policy is what causes the least harm and inconvenience simultaneously [08:44] and in this case this was the call made [08:44] if you can find concrete situations in which the current implementation causes significant harm and inconvenience, then we can reconsider [08:45] but so far I haven't seen convincing evidence :) [08:49] well, me neither [08:49] I was more thinking that it would be good to give team admins some flexibility [08:52] LaserJock, in customizing the team policies? we have tried as a policy to avoid customizability unless really necessary [08:52] it increases the support and documentation overhead a lot === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [08:57] kiko: hmm, that make some sense [08:58] but I would think people would also find it sort of a turnoff [08:58] they have this service, but they can't customize it to suit their needs [08:58] but you're right about overhead [08:59] it makes the system harder to explain -- you need to ask the user "Do your team have option X enabled?" [09:00] yes, I write documentation too, I have an appreciation for that ;-) [09:00] if there was a significant drawback in not allowing it to be optional then I'd consider an option [09:00] no pun intended :) [09:00] but in general I prefer it when options model something concretely different in the real world [09:01] than a flag you set to work around something. [09:01] anyway, next up! [09:01] pparks, how may I help? [09:01] hehe [09:01] kiko: thanks for the chat :-) [09:01] LaserJock, it's always a pleasure to chat with someone so reasonable [09:01] pfft [09:02] I can be as stubborn as the next person [09:02] but I do *try* [09:02] you try to be stubborn? === kiko nudges pparks [09:02] no ;p , I try to be reasonable [09:06] kiko: I just sent a followup to the list, just to wrap the discussion up [09:07] in case somebody searches for it in the future [09:07] thanks [09:07] thanks so much === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === bac_afk is now known as bac [09:12] Sorry was in a team discussion [09:12] Are you ready for us to ask you a couple questions [09:13] pparks, sure I am. [09:13] We are the team that's responsible for the HPLIP page. [09:14] https://launchpad.net/hplip [09:14] The person who set up the page has left the company and we need access. [09:14] he was the only admin [09:15] (sorry, pparks' laptop ran out of battery) === pparks [i=pparks@nat/hp/x-04f2c4c086e0dd51] has joined #LaunchPad [09:15] Okay have power again [09:15] Sorry about that [09:16] dwelch91, pparks: okay, that happens. [09:16] pparks, can I suggest you create a team to manage that page, and I'll do the necessary reassignment? [09:16] can we be added as admins or reset the project? [09:16] by using a team you'll be able to delegate control of the project more flexibly [09:16] ok, what are the steps? [09:17] Do you have a link as well [09:18] dwelch91, pparks: to create a team: launchpad.net/people/+newteam [09:18] you can create it and add as many members and admins as you like [09:18] ok [09:18] once that's done just tell me the name of the team and I'll reassign. [09:19] Doing that right now === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #launchpad [09:20] Team with hplip is already taken [09:21] We created a team named "hplip-team" [09:21] pparks: is Aaron Albright the guy that left? [09:21] how do we hook this up to the hplip project? [09:21] yes [09:21] he must have created the "hplip" team as well [09:21] it looks like he created the hplip team [09:21] he needs to be removed from the project [09:22] I'll sort it out. [09:22] or team, etc [09:22] so maybe kiko can just make you guys admins for hplip [09:22] that would be fine [09:22] i don't think pparks has a lp.net acct, but i di [09:22] do [09:22] "dwelch91" [09:23] on a related topic, is it possible to purge the "answers" section of the project? === bac_ [n=bac@rrcs-67-79-191-211.se.biz.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [09:25] dwelch91, meaning you wouldn't want to allow people to post questions to your team? [09:25] no, we want to get rid of all the old stuff that aaron had done in there - get a fresh start - we are moving our support from sf.net to lp.net === neversfelde___ [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad [09:26] dwelch91, that's awesome to hear. I see now -- by purge you mean "do away with old questions", I imagine? [09:27] yes [09:27] its not a huge deal, but it would be nice to start with a "clean slate" [09:29] dwelch91, okay, so you're now an administrator of https://launchpad.net/~hplip [09:29] great, thanks [09:29] 1 more question - [09:29] dwelch91, as an admin you can add or remove people from that team by visiting https://launchpad.net/~hplip/+members [09:29] i reviewed your terms of service... [09:30] I imagine one thing you'll want to do is remove Aaron from that team (I didn't do it) [09:30] I also made ~hplip (the team) own hplip (the project) === EdwinGrubbs [n=edwin@rrcs-67-79-191-211.se.biz.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [09:30] do you have the same restriction as sf.net on only allowing FOSS s/w in the project download areas? [09:30] great, thanks [09:30] as you can review at https://launchpad.net/hplip/ [09:30] i will shortly === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad [09:30] dwelch91, I'll arrange with mthaddon to delete the superfluous hplip-team now that we've established that ~hplip is what we all wanted. [09:31] ok, good [09:32] dwelch91, I'm not sure we have the same restriction on the download area; it's a good question. [09:32] dwelch91, if you post a question to answers.launchpad.net/launchpad I'll make sure it gets answered. [09:32] We are going to be needing to host some proprietary plugins into our FOSS driver... [09:33] the overall project is FOSS, but in order to support some of our devices, we have to ship some closed source .so files. [09:33] dwelch91, I see what you mean. well, just give me a URL to the question and I'll get it answered [09:33] we can't do that on sf.net, and are hoping we can on lp.net [09:33] URL to the question? [09:34] I got to run [09:34] dwelch91, if you post a question to answers.launchpad.net/launchpad I'll make sure it gets answered. [09:34] oh, ok [09:34] I was referring to that [09:34] thanks [09:34] dwelch91, one last question [09:34] ga [09:34] ~hplip is currently owned by aaron [09:34] should I reassign to you or someone else? [09:35] he needs to be removed from the prj completely (replace w/me i guess) [09:35] "dwelch91" [09:35] the owner is the same as a project administrator in all regards except for the fact that he can't be demoted [09:35] okay, I'll fix that up. [09:35] thanks === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad [09:36] done [09:36] dwelch91, by the way, [09:36] dwelch91, you'll probably want to change the contact email address for that team (which is currently set to aaron's email) [09:36] ok, will do [09:37] dwelch91, if you need any explanation of how that works just ask. [09:37] i will give it a try 1st [09:37] sure thing [09:38] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/12319 [09:39] thanks. === bac [n=bac@canonical/launchpad/bac] has joined #launchpad [09:40] kiko, thanks for all your help [09:41] dwelch91, you're welcome; just ask if you need any guidance === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.professional.rinchen] has joined #launchpad === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === bac_ [n=bac@rrcs-67-79-191-211.se.biz.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #launchpad === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === pparks [i=pparks@nat/hp/x-4cf93ac5e57583a4] has joined #LaunchPad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === lamont`` [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #launchpad === bac_ is now known as bac_afk [11:15] New bug: #135153 in malone "xsane segfaults" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135153 === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === bac_afk_ [n=bac@rrcs-67-79-191-211.se.biz.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has left #launchpad ["Leaving."] === Wilfredo [n=santamar@adsl-67-39-194-29.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad === bac_afk [n=bac@rrcs-67-79-191-211.se.biz.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === Wilfredo [n=santamar@adsl-67-39-194-29.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has left #launchpad [] [12:36] ok, the person Bugs advanced search page is getting out of hand [12:36] 407 milestones listed [12:37] mpt, I asked BjornT to work on that and he blew me off! === cprov is now known as cprov-out [12:39] yeah, I agree it is getting more difficult to find what you want [12:41] oh, that was tags. I'm confused. :) [12:41] mpt, we should probably omit milestones from that view. [12:42] kiko, and what would be the replacement way of making them searchable? [12:42] Let's say I want to return bugs assigned to me that are targeted to any of Launchpad 1.1.9, Launchpad Bugs 1.1.9, Launchpad Translations 1.1.9, or Soyuz 1.1.9 [12:43] mpt, is that really necessary for the person view? [12:43] why don't you just visit the milestone pages? [12:43] (which is what I do) [12:43] kiko, mpt: we should dislay on the relevant milestones (i.e., only milestones included in the bug listing) [12:43] You're suggesting I should visit four separate milestone pages? === kblin sighs [12:44] BjornT, that would be good. [12:44] And the same for tags, as kiko suggested. [12:45] right [12:45] At least, it would be a good start