[09:09] <kraut> moin
[09:19] <dieguito> hello dear kernel hackers, I came here to humbly ask someone to include the missing files mentioned in lp #129407, it's just an "oops" since they have been forgotten before
[09:20] <dieguito> oh BenC, I think you might be the guy in charge of the bug above ^ ?
[02:41] <zul> that microsoft keyboard driver bug sucks..
[03:48] <soren> zul: Did you ever push this change? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/125512
[03:49] <zul> no i havent yet
[03:50] <soren> Can I assign the bug to you so it doesn't get lost?
[03:50] <zul> sure
[03:50] <soren> Done. Thanks.
[04:01] <BenC> kylem: do we have updated snd-hda-intel in the tree yet that I can test on my system?
[04:04] <BenC> kylem: fyi, -10 boots without options on my AMD box that had the lapic timer problem
[04:06] <fabbione> hey BenC 
[04:06] <fabbione> -10- sound kind of sucks
[04:06] <fabbione> but i guess that's known...
[04:07] <fabbione> i can't shut up my internal speaker anymore
[04:07] <mjg59> Yes, that's known
[04:08] <BenC> yeah, a version of snd-hda-intel we were testing didn't get backed out before upload
[04:09] <fabbione> snd_via82xx
[04:09] <fabbione> i don't have hda-intel
[04:09] <rtg> Is kylem planning on another upload soon to backout the regression?
[04:10] <BenC> fabbione: nothing changed there, so that's kind of an odd regression
[04:11] <mjg59> No
[04:12] <BenC> maybe a userspace problem?
[04:40] <tseliot> BenC: did you have a look at my patches for the linux-restricted-modules? (bug 98641)
[04:40] <BenC> tseliot: yeah, we'll get them integrated
[04:41] <tseliot> BenC: great, I just wanted to know whether there was something wrong with them
[04:43] <fabbione> BenC: i doubt it's user space.. booting in -9 works
[04:43] <BenC> fabbione: I'd be real interested if you could bisect that problem
[04:44] <BenC> there really shouldn't be anything causing that between -9 and -10
[04:45] <fabbione> BenC: it will be very difficult for me.. i can try tho
[04:45] <fabbione> i just don't have much time to do hacking anymore :(
[04:46] <mjg59> fabbione: It'll take about an hour, almost all of which is just waiting for builds
[04:46] <kylem> there's no change to via
[04:47] <BenC> didn't rtg pull in some changes to sound? Were any of them to snd core?
[04:48] <rtg> BenC: not on purpose, unless I've forgotten something (which is always possible)
[04:49] <fabbione> mjg59: it probably takes an hour on your machine.. this is coil powered :P
[04:50] <fabbione> and i wish my core2 duo arrived today
[04:50] <fabbione> but it didn't
[04:50] <kylem> basically there's been no changes in sound/ between the two.
[04:53] <fabbione> kylem: can you explain that to my internal speaker? it's already driving me nuts
[04:53] <kylem> 'internal speaker'?
[04:53] <kylem> you mean the beeping?
[04:54] <fabbione> yes
 i can't shut up my internal speaker anymore
[04:54] <fabbione> -9- > silence as requested
[04:54] <mjg59> Wait. Under what circumstances?
[04:54] <fabbione> -10- > doesn't shut up
[04:54] <kylem> rmmod pcspkr
[04:55] <mjg59> If you mean the beeper, then that's got nothing to do with alsa
[04:55] <fabbione> mjg59: what do you mean "Under what circumstances"?
[04:55] <fabbione> well alsamixer allows you to shut it up
[04:55] <mjg59> Well, you're not explaining what you're doing, what the result is or what the desired result is
[04:55] <fabbione> or any mixer for the matter
[04:55] <fabbione> ok
[04:55] <fabbione> let's try again from 0
[04:55] <fabbione> the internal speaker does beep
[04:56] <mjg59> System beeps?
[04:56] <fabbione> yes
[04:56] <mjg59> Ok.
[04:56] <fabbione> like when you tab to do cmd completion
[04:56] <fabbione> or you hit too many times del
[04:56] <fabbione> now
[04:56] <fabbione> with all the mixers you can shut that thing up
[04:56] <mjg59> That may be routed through your sound hardware, but it's common for it to be exposed as a mixer channel but not actually do anything
[04:56] <fabbione> with kernel -9- it is silent
[04:57] <mjg59> With -9, can you make it louder with the mixer?
[04:57] <fabbione> with -10- it beeps
[04:57] <fabbione> the mixer shows me only on/off.. no volume settings for it
[04:57] <mjg59> With -9, can you turn it on with the mixer?
[04:58] <fabbione> mostlikely. i can't test in this exact moment. I would need to reboot this machine.
[04:58] <fabbione> what else can I check?
[04:58] <mjg59> If you could do that, it would be helpful.
[04:58] <fabbione> on/off with 0=
[04:58] <fabbione> ops
[04:58] <fabbione> on/off with 9?
[04:58] <mjg59> Yes
[04:58] <fabbione> on/off with 10?
[04:58] <fabbione> git bisect and?
[04:58] <fabbione> anything else?
[04:58] <mjg59> Well, we already know that doesn't work :)
[04:58] <mjg59> If it works in -9 and doesn't work in -10, then a bisection would be helpful
[04:58] <fabbione> yes... my head is exploding...
[04:58] <fabbione> ok
[04:58] <fabbione> thanks
[04:58] <fabbione> will do asap
[04:59] <fabbione> that means sometime in the morning tomorrow...
[04:59] <fabbione> given that i can't frigging sleep anymore at night
[04:59] <fabbione> thanks guys.. will let you know 
[05:56] <amitk_> mjg59: you have worked with UVC drivers?
[05:57] <mjg59> amitk_: A little
[05:57] <mjg59> I played with the support for the Apple camera for a while
[05:57] <amitk_> what do you think about pulling it into LUM?
[05:58] <mjg59> When did it vanish from there?
[05:58] <mjg59> We always used to ship it
[05:58] <amitk_> then I perhaps missed it.. let me check what version we are shipping
[06:01] <infinity> I don't recall shipping such a thing...
[06:01] <amitk_> mjg59, infinity: LUM/media/usbvideo
[06:02] <mjg59> Yeah
[06:02] <infinity> Ahh, LUM, not LRM.  I misread.
[06:02] <amitk_> it's just an older version. http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[06:09] <kylem> ok, fixed lum uploaded.
[06:22] <gicmo> the latest kernel update killed my sound ;-/
[06:23] <mjg59> gicmo: See launchpad
[06:23] <mjg59> The latest kernel update killed many people's sound :)
[06:24] <gicmo> matthew, ahh good to know I am not alone! ;-)
[06:24] <kylem> which driver?
[06:24] <gicmo> I have a macpro, so I guess it is snd_hda_intel or something
[06:24] <mjg59> Yeah, it will be
[06:25] <gicmo> I have only few controls left, like headphone, pcm, and 2 more, but if it is already known, I will shut up, unless I can be of any use on that one
[07:07] <Chorus> if I have a directory with modules and a kernel and the DEBIAN-directory, how do I build a .deb from it?
[07:08] <Chorus> I'm running "fakeroot debian/rules binary-custom flavours=xen", but I'm not getting any .deb-files for some reason
[07:16] <bdmurray> amitk_: ping
[07:16] <amitk_> bdmurray: pong
[07:16] <bdmurray> You have been looking at the usb suspend scanner bug right?
[07:16] <amitk_> bdmurray: yes
[07:17] <bdmurray> Would that also affect usb mice at all?
[07:17] <bdmurray> I am looking at bug 84762 at the moment
[07:31] <bdmurray> amitk_: any thoughts?
[07:34] <mjg59> Could well be
[07:39] <amitk_> bdmurray: it could. Although some people are mentioning edgy problems on the bug as well
[07:43] <bdmurray> How could I proceed with the bug report then?
[07:48] <amitk_> bdmurray: I am still going through the bug
[07:48] <amitk_> mjg59: upstream rejected your patch for this, right?
[07:48] <mjg59> Not as such
[07:48] <mjg59> Discussion is ongoing
[07:51] <amitk_> bdmurray: worst case, we need to collect the device ids (output of lsusb) for all the affected devices and put it in usb quirks. I would suggest that users disable autosuspend in sysfs and see it works for them
[07:53] <mjg59> That needs gutsy, though
[07:53] <mjg59> It can't be runtime disabled on feisty
[07:54] <bdmurray> Some people went as far to test with gutsy
[07:54] <amitk_> mjg59: true. I meant the users test with disabling autosuspend on the Gutsy live cd
[07:57] <amitk_> bdmurray: It seems that there are a few bugs mixed into this report. Some people report it not working at bootup...
[08:06] <bdmurray> amitk_: yes, I'd agree that report is a bit of a mess probably due to the genericness of the summary / title
[08:19] <bdmurray> I think I found the right thing - /sys/modules/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend .  What are valid options in the file or how do I find out?
[08:20] <zul> 1 or 0 perhaps (not sure)
[08:20] <mjg59> -1
[08:21] <bdmurray> Mine vmware image had a 2 in it
[08:21] <bdmurray> Which was surprising
[09:40] <xhaker> you should probably fix the latest kernel upload at the topic
[09:41] <xhaker> BenC, could you please let this in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2007-August/001696.html