[01:12] I do agree that we shoukd keep away from donations atm; but i don't think we should rule it out in the future [01:14] if you look at other similar projects, which ones actually have a donation system? [01:14] not a bounty system [01:14] but a donation system [01:16] +1 [01:16] http://www.mythdorawiki.com/wiki/index.php/MythDora:Site_support [01:17] other than it has been "added to" [01:17] there is a donation link at the bottom [01:37] How do you setup URL path setting in drupal? Do some themes not have that? [01:38] um [01:38] you need to turn on the module === tgm4883_laptop smacks head [01:40] I didn't think i had to turn that on for my work site [01:40] thanks superm1 [01:40] you shouldn't have had to [01:40] that's odd [01:41] theres a chance that I didn't know what it did and disabled it === Tari_ [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:11] Daviey, any luck with apt-mirror signing [02:11] figure it out? [02:16] tgm4883_laptop, you here? [02:16] digg this module, and what is the torrent one called? [02:16] i'll pop them in right now [02:16] yep [02:17] bittorrent :) [02:19] is there a new version of it [02:19] since you had issues? [02:19] or did you just mis-install it? [02:20] no, the issues I had were because I was using php4 instead of php5 [02:20] ah okay [02:20] anything else to pop in [02:20] or just those two [02:20] i think just the two [02:21] cause we will have forums on ubuntu forums right? [02:21] Yes [02:21] ok [02:21] as of the release after this one [02:21] unless you want to make forms [02:21] i want to activate the forums at the same time as the beta [02:21] ah ok [02:21] so unless you want forms for any reason [02:22] na [02:22] what about the IRC [02:22] sort that out? [02:22] did we ever get ahold of jumpkick? [02:22] na he still hasn't popped in [02:23] ok, then it probably still doesn't work === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o superm1] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o superm1] by ChanServ [02:27] tgm4883_laptop, okay they're both in [02:30] ok, you still have to activate them cause I don't think i have access to that [02:33] i did that too [02:35] Ok, so we should be setup [02:36] tgm4883_laptop, awesome [02:54] tgm4883_laptop, okay as for when we'll announce: as soon as new PPAs are announced, i [02:55] 'm going to build your mythstream package on a ppa [02:55] and the meta and control centre there [02:55] ah ok [02:55] since none of the three have cleared yet [02:55] but the ubiquity stuff cleared [02:55] and both our changes are in gutsy right now [02:55] when should .20.2 clear? [02:55] ok [02:55] it's cleared already [02:55] in gutsy [02:55] ah ok [02:55] what about feisty? [02:56] feisty, hm. i dont know how long archive admins take to ack SRUs [02:56] keescook might know better than i [02:56] shouldn't be much more than a few days, I think. [02:56] probably be in -proposed by the end of monday [02:58] keescook, do you already have an edgy vm? [02:58] superm1: yup, I use one for testing security updates [02:58] let me dput the edgy sources somewhere then [02:58] and you can give those a spin [02:59] i haven't got the space on this laptop to setup another VM :) [02:59] superm1: cool, I'll get it running. :) [03:00] keescook, i'm not gonna dput the .orig's, since my upstream bw is horrible. they are the same ones used for the gutsy packages [03:00] superm1: okay, cool. [03:02] keescook, http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/sru/ [03:02] all is stored there [03:03] cool, downloading and building now === frank23 [n=frank@CPE001839c1904e-CM00080d26a042.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:05] what is the easiest way to get mythtv to work with schedulesdirect in ubuntu? I just signed up [03:06] frank23, new packages will be arriving this week on the feisty-proposed repository [03:06] they were submitted this weekend. if you are on gutsy, the packages already support it [03:06] if your on edgy, they will be a little bit after the feisty packages arrive [03:06] ok. will they be in feisty-updates eventually too? [03:06] that's the plan [03:06] perfect [03:07] they need 7 days to clear -proposed [03:07] ok [03:07] From what I can tell, datadirect is still providing date past sept 1, so we'll have a few days of data overlap. [03:08] superm1: did you encounter any weird issues with channels, scheduling, or duplicates when you tested the switch-over? [03:08] Not at all [03:08] the only issue i had was something present with zap2it prior === keescook nods [03:08] my hidef channels weren't configured right since i dont get callsigns for some channels [03:09] you have to match the callsign and the channel number up perfectly [03:09] to get the data [03:13] weeee Expires: Sunday, December 02, 2007 [03:14] haha. you think you'll get data that long? [03:14] no, no, that's the SD account. :) [03:15] ah i still haven't paid for mine [03:15] on the trial period right now [03:15] superm1: ooh! you got motu? awesome! [03:15] keescook, hehe you didn't realize?? :) [03:15] how you think i uploaded the sru? [03:16] I didn't see it happen, but have been (obviously) hoping for it. :) congratz! [03:16] aparently keescook doesn't frequent the test mythbuntu site [03:16] thanks! i somehow get the feeling i inherited more responsibility than i bargained for, but i like it :) [03:16] hehe [03:16] I have mythtv on an Edgy and on a Feisty. I need to use SD. Do I take it that a normal update will get me a sufficiently fresh version on Feisty in a week (after clearing -proposed)? How about Edgy? [03:16] I saw the mythbuntu-control-centre_0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes is NEW email [03:16] and saw: signature from "Mario Limonciello " [03:17] wow. I was thinking of finally setting up automatic backups of the mythtv database but when I checked the ubuntu wiki I found out that this is automatically done. ;-) [03:17] dhr: that's the goal. do you have an edgy myth box? we could use someone testing with a "real" system. :) [03:17] frank23, you still might want to setup a cron job to copy them somewhere else [03:17] As I understand it, the database schema for myth have (has?) changed -- will the update work anyway? [03:18] superm1: that's right [03:18] dhr, yes, the update updates the scheme automatically [03:18] dhr: that's the expectation (but also the reason for needing some testing) [03:18] they are incremental updates [03:19] keescook: I could test but the edgy box is not the master. The master is even odder: Fedora Core 5, no longer supported. So I have the work on that myself. [03:19] yikes === superm1 still has a dapper backend he has to do packages for too :) [03:20] One problem is that current (open source) X server for ATI does not support TV out. The Gatos patch for TV out works with old X. [03:20] dhr, i thought heard that patch was being merged into X? [03:20] is that not the case? [03:21] My understanding is that much of Gatos was merged but the TV out was too much of a hack. In the last few weeks, the copyright on the TV out patch has been made suitable for merging but I don't think that the code has actually been improved or even updated to current X. [03:22] I think that there are no public specs for the TV out feature of the ATI card. [03:23] even the R200 cards? [03:23] Yes. My cards are 9200 family. [03:23] considering ATI scrapped support on them, i'm surprised that there are no docs on the tv out features [03:25] I've also had nVidia problems. I started with a 5200. The nVidia closed souce drivers dropped support. The latest version had a bug that TV out chopped the bottom ~30% of the picture. [03:25] yikes. really getting the short end of the stick multiple times then [03:44] foxbuntu, u here? [03:47] keescook: I would be willing to test on edgy. Nothing much to lose since the recorded programs are on a different machine. Timing is unclear. I might be able to test tonight, depending on luck installing the version I've built for the master (FC5). Do you have a pointer to edgy .debs or test repo? Would this cut me off from using the normal repos afterwards? [03:48] dhr, as soon as keescook acks that they work in his edgy vm, i'm going to push them to edgy-proposed [03:48] they should be available as soon as archive admins ack them [03:48] superm1: Did you see the latest flip on the log? [03:48] superm1: logo. [03:48] troy_s, no? [03:48] hrm... [03:49] i haven't read all of IRC scrollback though between you and foxbuntu [03:49] been focused mainly on these SRUs and a few other items [03:50] superm1: can I enable just myth stuff from -proposed or do I get everything? I guess I have to use synaptic or apt-get to be selective. [03:50] superm1: There isn't much IRC between myself and him. Lol. [03:50] dhr, i dont anticipate much else is sitting in proposed, but by turning it on, you do get everything [03:50] you can be selective via apt-get or synaptic however [03:52] OK. Glad to see progress on this is being made before the clock runs out! [03:54] it's going to be close for actually making it into edgy-updates and feisty-updates since it takes 7 days to clear -proposed, but anyone who needs to will be able to enable -propsed by the deadline === rogue780 [n=rogue780@pool-70-22-56-208.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:07] imbrandon is over talking in the ubuntu-motu forums if anyone wants to talk with him === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:12] superm1, imbrandon alive in the ubuntu-motu 6 minutes ago [04:12] tgm4883_laptop, really... [04:13] yeep === superm1 shrugs [04:18] did he just ignore you? [04:18] didn't msg me or anything so i would have to say yes [04:19] anyone have any idea why deinterlacing gives me a "shaky" picture when overscaning? [04:19] wtf [04:19] well im really glad we rebuilt the page now [04:19] me too === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o superm1] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o superm1] by ChanServ === tgm4883_laptop gives super cool status to superm1 [04:21] haha [04:21] well i invited him to come join here. [04:44] superm1: how do I add -propsed? do I add something to this line in /etc/sources.list: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted multiverse universe [04:45] just switch the words updates to proposed in that line [04:46] Thanks. So does that mean that normal updates will be suppressed? [04:46] No problem since I will switch back rather soon. [04:46] well you can have both lines [04:46] with updates and proposed [04:46] in your sources.list [04:47] OK === bendailey [n=Jackie@64.20.65.84] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:15] bendailey, whats up [05:16] superm1, whats up [05:16] hey bendailey === tgm4883 brings people together [05:16] hey tgm4883 [05:16] :) [05:17] I remember you saying you needed him to update the dns [05:17] or something to that effect [05:17] superm1, you in on donanting to the server HDD fund for our new mirror I am working on? [05:18] tgm4883 already has [05:18] well Daviey and i need to sort out how we are naming things [05:18] everything will be at atrpms for the moment [05:18] lol, foxbuntu is using peer presure [05:18] but i need to set up apt-mirror first [05:18] foxbuntu, No. [05:18] No? [05:19] remember my stance, i'll give money or time towards the project but not both :) [05:19] lol [05:19] comn...$25 [05:19] :) [05:19] nah foxbuntu, thats a fair stance [05:19] and then you can be a bronze member [05:19] lol...I know [05:20] foxbuntu, i give enough time towards all of this :) [05:20] superm1, you Know I have to bust you [05:20] just gotta pick on you some [05:20] superm1 doesn't give enough time, he was signed off for almost an hour today :) [05:20] lol [05:21] i had two routers die on me today, a cat5, and my mediacom dns servers dont work anymore.... [05:21] I'm looking in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz and the MythTV things seem older than .20.2. That is where the new version will show up, right? [05:21] not exactly fair. [05:21] dhr, Yes. that's where they will show up [05:24] superm1, holy crap my desktop just showed back up [05:24] sweet === tgm4883 needs to start auto backing up his mythtv database [05:26] tgm4883, I could give you some space for that when we get our DC server online...since you donated to the project and all [05:26] :) [05:26] since im a bronze member ? [05:26] yea [05:26] lol [05:26] i'll just back it up to my local fileserver [05:26] if my apartment burns down, then i have bigger things to worry about [05:26] lol [05:27] after all, I have many computers to save and only 2 hands [05:27] keescook, any luck with those edgy packages this evening or no? [05:27] tgm4883, I know that feeling === jumpkick [n=GED@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:29] tgm4883, ^ [05:30] yea [05:30] jumpkick, whats up man [05:30] superm1, can you load that irc thing back on there so we can troubleshoot it? [05:30] tgm4883, i dont recall what i loaded before [05:31] cgiirc was it? [05:31] cgiirc [05:31] yep [05:31] or cgi:irc [05:31] well jumpkick can you comment towards setting up cgi:irc on there? === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:34] :( jumpkick is away [05:35] hi === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:35] hi [05:35] cgi-irc was painful last time I tried to set it up [05:35] :( [05:36] it's easy to set-up but somewhat brutal how it works I mean [05:36] keeps connections open all the time [05:36] we get no connection or something to that effect [05:36] is there a different IRC client we can run from the website? [05:36] you can run java plug-ins [05:36] or maybe flash [05:37] hello superm1 [05:37] hello tgm4883 [05:38] any need for DNS changes or additions yet? [05:38] hi bendailey. very soon this week i'll have a change to make [05:38] i'll mail you with the info on it [05:39] great, I will get it done asap [05:39] jumpkick, i'll check into something java based I guess, any recomendations? [05:39] I'll look around [05:41] bendailey, still need to finalize a few items, so the mail won't come until mid week [05:41] :( I have the worst time with java apps on my setup [05:42] what about php:irc? [05:43] superm1, I will just wait on your email then [05:43] k :) [05:43] superm1, have you come up with a host for mail? [05:44] bendailey, foxbuntu was going to be the MX, but i dont know when he will have the box up [05:44] bendailey, do you have somewhere we could use as an MX (maybe just forwarding to existing addy for now)? [05:44] and what happened with your deal with your ISP/ [05:44] as for mirroring images and such [05:45] I forgot to ask [05:45] superm1, I need to work out the final details and get some parts ordered but hopefully that box will be live soon [05:45] foxbuntu, feel free to shoot me an email with mx details for you can pass them along through superm1 [05:46] bendailey, sounds good [05:46] superm1, I will get in touch with my ISP contact tomorrow or Tuesday [05:46] okay great [05:47] bendailey, we're looking to do alpha 4 sometime this week [05:47] so if this turns up soon, that can work out well [05:47] ok I will see what I can get pushed through [05:48] what kind of traffic have you been seeing on the current mirrors/servers? [05:48] bendailey, the only remaining mirror for cd images is at polorix.net [05:49] i'm not sure how much has been going through on it [05:49] i'll mail my contact there and find out [05:50] ok it would be good if I could at least give them a heads up on the traffic flow [05:50] have you decided on push/pull for images? foxbuntu [05:50] bendailey, just shot a mail to him, as soon as i get a response i'll let you know [05:51] superm1, thanks [05:51] bendailey, what do you mean push/pull? [05:52] superm1, can you test this [05:52] http://mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com/pjirc/NormalApplet.html [05:52] foxbuntu, are you going to be the one dealing the getting the images to mirrors or am I confused? [05:52] java doesn't work on my system [05:53] tgm4883, that one looks pretty good to me [05:53] jumpkick, did you test it? I can't [05:53] bendailey, I hadn't been told that...but I suppose I could be [05:53] tgm4883, I opened it [05:53] ah ok [05:53] you have an error in your config [05:54] yea? [05:54] Anonymous Erroneous Nickname [05:54] Error : Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Connection Timed Out) [05:54] Disconnected from irc.freenode.net [05:54] i only changed one thing [05:54] maybe it doesn't like the nick [05:54] ah, you can't be anonymous? [05:54] sec [05:54] eh doesnt work for me either [05:54] superm1: doesn't load or doesn't login? [05:54] loads [05:55] but wont login [05:55] ok, reload and try again [05:55] tgm4883, connected... status "Superm2" [05:55] nice === Superm2 [n=Superm2@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:56] that what the nick i put in === Anon693 [n=Superm2@12-216-45-174.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:56] foxbuntu, how ever you, superm1, etc want to deal with mirror distribution I should be able to make a go either way [05:56] tgm4883, this is from the java client [05:56] it didn't auto join the channel though [05:56] well, i'm looking for how to make it auto join [05:56] as that wasn't in the default config [05:56] but this should* work from a drupal node right? [05:57] yeah should be fine [05:59] ok, one more, try it again [05:59] bendailey, not a problem...I was thinking of just setting up a single link to something like images.mythbuntu.org and creating DNS records for each mirror using CNAMES and then using round robin to split the load [05:59] and then just build on one and use a script to push it out to all the others [05:59] foxbuntu, the problem with doign that, some of the mirrors really are inconvenient for some users [05:59] say Daviey's mirror [05:59] in the uk [05:59] superm1, indeed [06:00] killall superm2 [06:00] nope [06:00] lol [06:01] foxbuntu, does drupal have sourceforge like functionality for file distribution random mirror based on location for set preferred mirror? === Superm2 scores a saving throw [06:01] superm1, jumpkick, can you two try it one more time? I should have it setup to auto join the channel [06:01] yup sec [06:01] reloading now === Mythbuntu [n=Mythbunt@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:02] OMG [06:02] "Mythbuntu nickname is already in use" [06:02] MYTHBUNTU IS HERE! [06:02] hmm [06:02] lol [06:02] tgm4883: doesn't auto connect [06:02] hmm [06:02] perhaps you should change it to something like mythbuntu-guest [06:02] maybe it doesn't need the # in front of it [06:02] well maybe better to be mythbuntu-guestXXX [06:02] sec [06:02] where it gets random numbers [06:03] it is set like that, or at least I thought it was [06:03] this window is kind of small [06:03] and ugly [06:03] the ugly I don't mind [06:03] ok, try again [06:03] k === Mythbuntu864 [n=Mythbunt@12-216-45-174.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:04] Still didn't autojoin [06:04] but you got a random number :) [06:04] but at least got the random client name [06:04] oops my firefox crashed [06:04] too much java... haha === Mythbuntu864 is now known as superm1_ [06:06] Ok [06:06] I really think it will work this time === Mythbuntu413 [n=Mythbunt@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:06] [06:07] tgm4883: you need that ^^^^ === MythbuntuGuest72 [n=Mythbunt@12-216-45-174.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:07] I just added that [06:07] worked for me [06:07] sorta [06:07] i autojoined [06:07] i'll try again [06:07] Mythbuntu413 didn't reload :) === MythbuntuGuest51 [n=Mythbunt@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:07] works now [06:07] superm1, does it tell you which channel you joined? [06:07] #ubuntu-mythtv [06:07] ok [06:07] i'm going to change that to #mythbuntu [06:08] tgm4883, well #mythbuntu points to #ubuntu-mythtv [06:08] so you cant [06:08] ok [06:08] i wasn't sure where it was telling you that [06:08] but we should be able to upload it now [06:08] oh cool, I just realized I could pop off the channel window and then resize it full screen [06:08] superm1, I am the man [06:08] :) [06:09] foxbuntu is the man [06:09] thats right === tgm4883 gives the man status to foxbuntu === MythbuntuGuest51 is now known as jumpkick2 [06:09] I fixed the bug with the GTK colors [06:09] foxbuntu, go ahead and commit the changes [06:09] i'll take a look [06:10] ok...I have one more thing I want to look at with it prior to that...but Its pretty much done [06:10] okay well just do one commit [06:10] yeah...thats what I am planning on [06:11] tgm4883, so you want this to be popped on mythbuntu.org? [06:11] yea, i'll figure out how to point it in the right direction, just let me know where it's uploaded too === jumpkick2 is impressed this thing has definable smilies [06:13] jumpkick, jumpkick2, should I keep those in their? There is also a simple version that I was thinking of using [06:13] link me to the source tgm4883 [06:13] http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=pjirc&filename=pjirc_2_1_1_bin.zip&use_mirror=superb-east [06:14] superb-east? does superm1 know superb? [06:14] interesting [06:14] tgm4883: I think it's kind of cool to have them if it's not too much bother [06:15] :) [06:16] jumpkick, then also try these 3 and let me know which of the 4 you like best [06:17] http://mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com/pjirc/SimpleApplet.html [06:17] http://mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com/pjirc/HeavyApplet.html === MythbuntuGuest66 [n=Mythbunt@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest80 [n=Mythbunt@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest78 [n=Mythbunt@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest56 [n=Mythbunt@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:18] ooh, are colours going to get me banned? [06:18] http://mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com/pjirc/AppletWithJS.html [06:18] disable the colors tgm4883 [06:18] in heavy? [06:18] i won't ban you for them right now, but dont do them [06:18] change nick box is handy [06:18] ok [06:19] yeah heavy [06:19] you checked JS? === MythbuntuGuest80 is now known as heavy-client === MythbuntuGuest56 is now known as simple-client [06:20] would color be this [06:20] [06:20] or one of these [06:20] [06:20] === MythbuntuGuest25 [n=Mythbunt@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === heavy-client is now known as saymyname [06:20] the first i'd think [06:20] of any of those [06:20] wow...this client is pretty nice for a web based deal [06:21] I'll say my own name - saymyname [06:21] <-- foxbuntu [06:21] line goes red, that's handy [06:21]