[01:08] but why is it that one thinkpad works and another not did they change hardware or something inside the same model [01:09] IBM does multiple variants of models [01:09] Now, where does Ubuntu put the usual kernel framebuffer mode docs? [01:09] you already send an email to ibm it is a great supporter of unix and linux so maybe you get help ? [01:10] For a thinkpad "Designed for Microsoft Windows Me"? [01:10] i search on your own qeustion [01:11] I've referred to this file on Debian systems in the past === atarinox [n=atarinox@68.63.173.14] has joined #xubuntu === xor [n=xor@cpe-66-68-129-167.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:13] any good games in the repos that would run on my older 600mhz/128mb laptop? [01:13] atarinox: nethack [01:13] many bugs in launch pad on your quest... [01:13] is that a hacking simulation game? [01:13] atarinox: Nope [01:14] atarinox: And the console build is much better than the tiled ones [01:14] ok ill give it a try [01:15] any others you can think of? [01:15] The following packages have been kept back: [01:15] i get that wen i try apt-get upgrade [01:15] There's always the assortment in the bsdgames package [01:15] what do i do? [01:15] cheeseboy: What are you trying to do? [01:15] tetragon: what is the exact model im looking on the ibm site [01:15] apt-get upgrade .. [01:16] cheeseboy: What, precisely, are you trying to do? What are your objectives? [01:16] s-x-u: 1161-45U [01:17] atarinox: battle for Wesnoth [01:17] atarinox: excellent game [01:17] tetragon: update all my aps .. [01:17] atarinox: you can also get the snes, gameboy and gameboy advance emulators [01:18] cheeseboy: As you would see from the manpage apt-get(8), packages that are held back would require changes to the status of another package. What to do about that is also contained in the manpage [01:19] TheSheep: there are emulators in the repos? [01:19] !info zsnes [01:19] zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386) [01:19] Ah, found a copy of the file I was looking for [01:19] !info snes9x [01:19] Package snes9x does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [01:20] !info snes9x-sdl [01:20] Package snes9x-sdl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [01:20] :/ [01:20] !info visualboyadvance [01:20] visualboyadvance: a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.2-6 (feisty), package size 581 kB, installed size 2260 kB [01:20] !info mednafen [01:20] mednafen: multi-platform emulator, including NES, GB/A, Lynx, PC Engine. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-1 (feisty), package size 1105 kB, installed size 3300 kB [01:21] atarinox: etc. you get amiga, atari and zx spectrum too === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL212-29.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu [01:22] TheSheep: cool, thanks ill check em out [01:23] tetragon: is this correct ? http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/quickPath.do?quickPathEntry=116145u&sitestyle=lenovo [01:24] s-x-u: Yes [01:24] already have the latest bios ? [01:25] it is all win stuff:-( [01:25] s-x-u: And Me was blown away a couple days ago [01:26] s-x-u: I have it booting, but nothing involving graphics works at this point [01:30] And Me was blown away a couple days ago ....... where ? [01:30] Windows ME [01:31] ok [01:31] so win has also problems with your machine ? [01:31] I have no idea. This isn't my machine [01:35] you can at least(?) ask a question about installing xubutu 7.04 on that site and also blame them that it doesnt work out of the box [01:36] s-x-u: This laptop likely went out of production before Ubuntu even existed. [01:36] ibm is a big supporter of unix linux so maybe they help because of bad publicity ... [01:36] :-D [01:37] What, that an OS that's a few years newer than some out-of-production hardware doesn't work without some tweaks? I don't think that their older Thinkpads are their highest priority [01:39] dont think that intelligent play the stupid customer :) [01:39] what do you have to loose ? [01:40] hihi [01:40] I think I'll handle this my way. First disable X, then fix the X config. I could hardly care less about boot splashes [01:42] you do that you report here ? im readding === flyback [n=n@c-24-3-31-106.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@12.206.23.241] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] ? When did less start displaying colour when viewing manpages? === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:47] tetragon, no idea, i never really read manpages :D [01:50] http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?less [01:50] s-x-u: I generally disable stuff like colour, as it doesn't always travel well across terminals [01:51] Anyhow, X is working now that I switched the driver from vesa to trident [01:51] hey... [01:52] Since this laptop appears to have difficulties with vesa graphics, I'll simply disable the bootsplash. [01:54] it has a trident cyberblade in it reading de specs [01:56] s-x-u: Why do you think I switched to trident? [01:57] you also readed the specs ? :) [02:00] so you can boot and you have a gui and you can install ? [02:00] s-x-u: I booted and installed a couple days ago [02:00] It was just convincing the install to boot and work [02:01] I'm still working on the getting the install to work [02:02] ok that is the story bad memory mixed with other stories === atarinox is now known as pilibeen [02:03] what is the next problem you are facing ? === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:03] The little desktop "niceties" that some people like, such as bringing up the network interface without using a terminal === R[a] ndom [n=random@dhcp-0-9-5b-fe-6a-d9.cpe.i-zoom.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:06] and make a bookmark to the linux tutorials for beginners ? [02:07] And testing out all the hardware [02:08] im boring and i need to sleep i have to work tomorrow so i leave this nice channel / the thinkpad owner should buy suppport contract by you ;-) [02:10] thanks for the nice story and happy about to know it works for so far after all the problems [02:10] zzz... === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip51cf89ac.direct-adsl.nl] has left #xubuntu [] === R[a] ndom [n=random@dhcp-0-9-5b-fe-6a-d9.cpe.i-zoom.net] has joined #xubuntu === Merchelo [n=Merchelo@carbon.redbrick.dcu.ie] has joined #xubuntu === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL212-29.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@69.111.52.54] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:27] http://rafb.net/p/jqPX1t17.html anyone know how id fix that? [03:35] cheeseboy: run 'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start' [03:38] TheSheep didnt help [03:39] cheeseboy: what did it say? [03:39] nothing [03:39] that's weird [03:39] TheSheep i dont even have a printer but i still cant purge it [03:42] cheeseboy: I guess you could hack a little -- look into /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupsys.postrem and comment out the line that fails [03:42] i'm having trouble changing read/write permissions on a mount point i created for my local network.../media/network. whether i try as user or root i still get permission denied [03:43] pilibeen: maybe the remote host doesn't allow you to change the permissions? [03:44] TheSheep: /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupsys.postrem is empty [03:44] cheeseboy: maybe .prerm then [03:45] cheeseboy: it's rm, not rem, sorry [03:46] cheeseboy: handle with care [03:46] TheSheep: comment out this http://rafb.net/p/R7mfuD78.html ? [03:47] cheeseboy: yes [03:47] make sure the cupsys is not running [03:47] before uninstalling it [03:48] so comment it oout then purge cupsys? [03:49] comment it out, then make sure it's not running (kill it manually if it is), then purge cupsys [03:50] dpkg: error processing cupsys (--purge): [03:50] Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should [03:50] reinstall it before attempting a removal. [03:51] well [03:52] reinstall :) [03:52] then i get the error i pastebined u] [03:53] cheeseboy: even after commenting out these lines? [03:53] TheSheep: yes [03:53] cheeseboy: did you save? [03:53] yes [03:53] want me to pastebin you the whole edited file? [03:53] cheeseboy: it's exactly the same error? [03:53] yes, please [03:55] http://rafb.net/p/1HcB4A17.html [03:59] cheeseboy: is there also a postrm? [04:00] TheSheep: yes [04:01] but the error says clearly: pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 [04:01] yes.. [04:01] maybe the script is cached somewhere? :/ [04:01] TheSheep: how would i tell :/ [04:02] cheeseboy: are you sure the new error is exactly the same as the old one? [04:02] cheeseboy: I mean http://rafb.net/p/jqPX1t17.html [04:02] yes [04:04] cheeseboy: try commenting out the whole script === tetragon [n=seneca@206-248-128-224.dsl.teksavvy.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:08] TheSheep: now i get chown: cannot access `/var/run/cups': No such file or directory [04:08] cheeseboy: create it [04:09] cheeseboy: wait, in which script? [04:10] pre-installation [04:10] but making dir seems to be working [04:10] great [04:11] what script did such a mess of cups? [04:11] automatix? [04:11] gusty [04:12] cheeseboy: you interrputed installation of packages/ [04:12] ? [04:12] cheeseboy: it was actually missing files [04:13] i had a power failure during upgrade [04:14] woot more errors with different packages now [04:14] yup [04:15] cheeseboy: I guess it doesn't count as stable anymore [04:15] i gotten through like 1/4 the packages [04:16] its like a puzzle [04:17] cheeseboy: not all errors were detected [04:17] cheeseboy: dpkg only checks for exsitence, not if the file was truncated [04:18] woot more fun === xjkx [n=x@201009005132.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] Do you people agree that the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu is just the xfce/gnome ? [04:21] xjkx: no, it laso differs in colors [04:21] xjkx: and the default set of applications [04:22] plus, #ubuntu is much busier and harder to get help there :P [04:22] even wen i used ubuntu i came here :-P [04:22] TheSheep: I use xubuntu, what do you think will happen if i run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ? Will i lose xfce/this default set of applications? [04:22] no u wont [04:22] xjkx: no [04:23] xjkx: you will just get a lot of addtitional applications [04:23] Then i'd have both xubuntu and ubuntu? [04:23] :o [04:23] xjkx: well, some -gtk versions may be replaced with -gnome ones, I'm not sure [04:23] yes, you can [04:23] you can also add kubuntu to the mix [04:23] :O [04:24] xjkx: then you can select at the login screen which one you want to login to [04:24] TheSheep: I am afraid of doing that, because when I run apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop it will understand I want to remove some gtk applications, and maybe it removes some of my xubuntu appl :P [04:25] xjkx: no, it looks at the dependencies [04:25] Uhmm sounds like I should give it a try :> [04:25] xjkx: xubuntu-desktop depends on the default xubuntu applications, as long as you don't uninstall it, none of these should be removed [04:26] i just got my ubuntu cds today :) [04:26] xjkx: in the worst case, you can install them back, right? [04:26] How long did it take cheeseboy ? [04:26] and they came with stickers :) [04:26] cheeseboy: with stickers? [04:26] cheeseboy: cool [04:26] 3 weeks [04:26] TheSheep: in case I remember those I'd lose yes [04:27] xjkx: there are always logs [04:27] i needed em cause my dvd drive broke it doesnt rwad dvds anymore :( [04:27] read* [04:28] Ah, I ran apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get upgrade (after apt-get update) doing that everytime I'd never need to download a new cd with a new version right? [04:28] now i got about 80 blank dvds going to waste :( [04:28] cheeseboy: sell them :> [04:29] good night everyone [04:29] night [04:30] TheSheep: see you in your dreams [04:30] :-P [04:31] :o === rathel [n=rathel@c-24-9-186-226.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === foxray [n=foxray@109.169.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:04] whats the difference between unbuntu-system-tools and xubuntu-system-tools? === foxray [n=foxray@109.169.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === bigfuzzy1esus [n=bigfuzzy@12.206.23.241] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@12.206.23.241] has joined #xubuntu === rathel_ [n=rathel@c-24-9-186-226.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-57-160.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96E0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ben_Cs [n=benny@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === The_Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-4.245.120.158.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === martinez [n=martinez@eby167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #xubuntu [10:35] hi all [10:35] I have question..... [10:36] I have old comp: Intel x86 family 6 model 8 32-bit 133, 128MB, graphics S3 Inc. Savage4, disc 8GB. [10:37] Can I run safely and with good efficiency xubuntu on this? === martinez [n=martinez@eby167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #xubuntu [10:44] thx thx thx :( === martinez [n=martinez@eby167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] === mecannotread [n=josef@202.93.40.230] has joined #xubuntu === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === Ben_Cs [n=benny@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] hello === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-152-93.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === MagicFab [n=MagicFab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === hyper___ch [n=root@ns1.roleplayer.org] has joined #xubuntu [01:14] TheSheep: hello there, got a minute? [01:14] hyper___ch: sure [01:15] hmmm, I have a bash script for backing up and I thought I could put at the end a simple "df" to show how much space aso is left... but that didn't work... any idea why? [01:16] actually, when I think about it, I guess I know why :) [01:18] I forgot I unset the PATH so I first actually had to define where df is ;) [01:18] thx for the help [01:20] hiho j1mc Jester45 kalikiana Pumpernickel [01:20] hi [01:20] first time since ages that I use IRSSI again :) === Jester45 wonders when he will ever go to sleep [01:21] Jester45: sleep is for mundanes... geeks don't need it [01:21] its true [01:22] Jester45: why you're up this late? [01:23] Difficult question: iptables is activated by default right? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu [01:26] yes and no [01:27] yes is activated but there are no rules [01:27] so its doing nothing [01:27] that's what I thought :) [01:28] hey hyper___ch, what's up? [01:28] yea.... i was thinking about going to sleep but i decided that i would have to wake up in a few hours [01:28] And why do you have so many slashes? [01:28] kalikiana: not much :) just had a little issue with a bash script [01:28] kalikiana: slashes? [01:29] hey... your not useing your normal client, you didnt auto join viddandme [01:29] the ____ [01:29] hyper___ch, yep, three slashes === Jester45 is now known as J__es__te__r4__5 === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:29] kalikiana: you mean underscores? IMHO a slash is this -> / [01:29] or \ [01:30] oh, [01:30] J__es__te__r4__5: that's IRSSI that I use from work :) === J__es__te__r4__5 is now known as Jester45 [01:30] it's underscores, yeah :P [01:30] kalikiana: :) didn't know how many I currently had... so I just used 3 of them ;) [01:31] you have 2 [01:31] 1* [01:31] oh well, I won't be on for much longer... I need to get back to work [01:31] no need for that [01:31] but i do leave for school in a bit [01:31] time to get my sleep [01:32] ttyl :) [01:32] *logoff* === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === loak [n=voyageus@ALyon-153-1-38-158.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [01:52] hello all === superkirbyartist [n=superkir@bas1-ottawa10-1177946489.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:07] Who in here loves In The Groove or StepMania? [02:10] *yawns* === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [02:12] I'm looking for some informations about cpufrequencies and governors with a pIII 500 copermine in a laptop omnibook, anybody konw somthing about that ? === Ed933 [n=chatzill@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [02:16] My printing is really wierd, can anyone help me? [02:17] I'm a noob, just started using xubuntu this weekend 2 revive an old comp === kekk [n=kristjan@89-219-17-30.wx.norby.ee] has joined #xubuntu === One [n=One@dsl213-218-244-172.as15444.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:40] hello? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === kekk [n=kristjan@89-219-17-30.wx.norby.ee] has joined #xubuntu [02:54] Someone konw a bit about PIII coppermine in an omnibook, cpufreq, and all this baterie saving stuff ? === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === scizzo- [n=scizzo@vxj-104-197-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has left #xubuntu [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === lnx [n=lnx@85.65.5.107.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:51] am ubuntu (gnome) user and i have install xubuntu desktop and i enter command "compiz --replace" and nothing happend what i need todo ? (in gnome compiz works fine ) ? [03:52] lnx: open a terminal and type "killall xfwm4" and then type "compiz --replace" and if that doesn't work, then you will need to type "xfwm4 &" to get xfce's window manager back === maxamillion doesn't have much experience with compiz === lnx [n=lnx@85.65.5.107.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #xubuntu === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-108-130.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-108-130.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === greg [n=greg@ip68-111-130-137.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:03] Hi. Does anyone know why my installation cd can't find a Release file? [04:04] the md5sums check out === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp51-11.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [04:28] what is the name of xfce windows manager ( i want to do windows_manager --replace ) ? [04:38] Someone to help me with a PIII coppermine (hp omnibook) and the cpufreq governor thing ? === joakim_ [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === joakim__ [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip51cf89ac.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #xubuntu [05:12] hi i have a question im using gutsy 7.10 tribe 4 with updates i can not create new users :-/ === loak [n=voyageus@ALyon-153-1-38-158.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #xubuntu [] === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [05:15] using the program users and groups from the menu i fill in the name kind of user and a password but it doesnt create a home map and i cannot login with the new user after rebooting and logging in on the my own account the user i created is lost/gone and away === joakim_ [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === Nevermin1 [n=alex@i-195-137-124-156.freedom2surf.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:19] so anyone have an idea about it ? [05:21] hey, i have a problem [05:22] how do i connedct to a windows router to access the windwos shared files [05:22] !samba [05:22] samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT === joakim__ [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === orbit7 [n=martijn@cp562554-b.landg1.lb.home.nl] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip51cf89ac.direct-adsl.nl] has left #xubuntu [] === joakim_ [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === utnubux [n=fauxaudi@rrcs-70-60-40-134.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:52] anyone use xubuntu for sonund synthesis? === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === cheeseboy [n=greg@24-107-235-119.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:08] where can i find a black version of the default xubuntu background? === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.185.62] has joined #xubuntu === evge [n=evge@85.91.131.213] has joined #xubuntu === joakim__ [n=Leho@80-235-62-240-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === zials [n=zials@74.12.179.214] has joined #xubuntu [06:36] cheeseboy : here are some black images from gutsy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Gutsy/Incoming [06:45] hiho fellow pirates [06:46] arrr [06:47] utnubux: something like this? http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/sound/nyquist [06:47] at least someone's alive === Adamska [n=asdf@lns-bzn-23-82-248-96-193.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:53] Hi, i'm trying to make splashy work but it just doesn't run at startup. I installed it with apt-get. Is there something I forgot to do? [06:53] orbit7: do you use nyquist? === boogie [n=boogie@p548A28EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:53] I didn't change any configuration file === pcfascist [n=pcfascis@74-33-84-241.dr01.jrdn.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:54] i have read about it but havent tried it.. .or any 'programing' based applications for that matter [06:54] utnubux: no i only listen to music [06:54] ahh. well thats cool. i really dont understand whats involved in the programming of a program like that === orbit7 and sometimes hear it in my dreams, but are never able to transcribe it to reality [06:55] reality is unimportant anyway [06:56] there is a ubuntu studio distribution for media creation, but the site is down right now [06:58] yea im running xubuntu on a p3 750 lappy with currently 128mb of memory. not exactly a media machine... i assume it would run much slower than it does now. [06:59] utnubux: I had edgy on a 450mvhz 64mb notebook... it was sloooow... but running [06:59] haha. i have one of those laying around and was thinking about it. === Riot777 [n=riot777@aasb168.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #xubuntu [06:59] i liked the edgy elf better than fiesty.... [07:00] I don't [07:00] ive had problems i never ran into with edgy.... on the same hardware setup. i dont understand [07:01] utnubux : perhaps audacity is what you are looking for ? http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ === Adamska [n=asdf@lns-bzn-23-82-248-96-193.adsl.proxad.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:02] yea i run audacity in linux mac and on winxp. its the sheeit. [07:02] im looking for more synthesis or sound generation rather than editing === elbing [n=elbing@183.Red-81-44-215.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@adsl23189.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === pidgas [n=pidgas@dsl093-016-207.msp1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:18] If anyone else here uses openoffice, I'd appreciate any help you might provide. My menu fonts are HUGE at least 14-18pt, and I can't seem to fix them. Googleing just turns up this "apply replacement table" stuff which doesn't work. Anyone here have a tip for how to make OO2 obey my system fonts in xbubuntu? === joakim_ [n=Leho@adsl23189.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACC8D38A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === Der-Tim [n=tim@dehhs50srv0.onic.de] has joined #xubuntu === tors [i=c00hjn@peppar.cs.umu.se] has joined #xubuntu === kstr [n=kstr@d5153A61D.access.telenet.be] has joined #xubuntu === Ben_Cs [n=benny@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-160-184.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === loak [n=voyageus@ALyon-153-1-38-158.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === kstr [n=kstr@d5153A61D.access.telenet.be] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_ [n=vidd@216-107-0-210-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_ is now known as vidd [08:06] i have a really strange bug with my m-audio revolution 5.1 sound card , and it's only ocurring in xfce and not in gnome [08:07] in alsamixer (in a terminal) the H/W setting kjeeps getting reset from "pcm-out" to "hw1 in" [08:07] is there a special volume/alsa manager specifix to xfce? [08:07] *specific to xfce [08:08] orbit7: xfce4-mixer [08:09] orbit7: you can run that from the run dialog or from a terminal [08:09] thanks, i'll try now [08:10] np [08:12] maxamillion : the xfce4-mixer does not reflect the same state of "H/W" as alsa mixer. it get's reset in alsa mixer and i loze 1 speaker [08:12] oh ... strange [08:12] maxamillion : after that i start xfce4-mixer and it still shows pcm-out for "H/W" === joakim__ [n=Leho@adsl23189.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [08:13] orbit7: that's really odd ... i unfortunately don't really know how to fix that [08:13] ok, i know where to file a bug now [08:14] :) === merhojt [n=Jimmy@host-217-213-152-91.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:14] hi all [08:14] hi dr. loak === orbit7 puts paperclip back on the down-key of his htpc. [08:15] dr ? Am I a doctor ? [08:15] sure not [08:16] my problem is with acpi and the cpuferq things [08:16] in a pIII coppermine omnibook [08:16] maxamillion: killed xfce4-mixer, that's a better workaround [08:17] google is full of pages on this but i can't get out === xBill [n=dario@p5494DF28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [08:39] !grub [08:39] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto === shofomofo [n=chatzill@host106.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu [08:45] do yall think that running xubuntu on an older dell PIII with 350 mb ram and 2 gb hd would be a good idea for somebody who is a linux virgin, as far as user friendliness goes [08:47] shofomofo: those specs are good except for the 2gb of hard drive space. [08:48] why is that bad? [08:48] I had a comp, 433mhz, 64mb ram, 6gb and I had used ubuntu for some weeks only, put xubuntu on it [08:48] xubuntu will run on that computer, but you won't have much storage space at all [08:48] hm [08:48] very little space for documents, music files, etc. [08:48] yeah [08:48] would yall have any other recommendations for me [08:49] as i said i need to be integrated into linux [08:49] DSL, feather linux, zenwalk [08:49] and its a laptop that im using === The_Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.108.23.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:50] which one of those would be easiest to transition from windows [08:50] I don't know, haven't personally tried anything except dsl but that only for a few minutes [08:50] hm [08:51] this might be a 3 gb hd [08:51] i just got the craptop not too long ago [08:51] let me check it out again [08:52] oh shit [08:52] i don tknow what i was thinkin [08:52] its 20 gb [08:52] lol [08:52] haha [08:52] thats better [08:52] big difference [08:52] xubuntu will do fine [08:52] do you think xubuntu is a good choice [08:53] yeah, it's really faster than ubuntu [08:53] ok [08:53] thanks [08:53] I had both on one machine, you could feel it [08:53] good luck [08:53] hopefully it does all i need it to [08:53] thanks [08:53] im gonna go ahead and try it [08:53] if all works out, ill most likey return to this channel [08:53] you can always format and reinstall :) [08:53] yup [08:53] exactly [08:53] alright thanks [08:54] peace out [08:54] bye === Fwiffo [n=Fwiffo@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7fc100-96.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp51-11.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] [09:02] hello all, I'd like to install Xubuntu in pIII coppermine (HP Omnibook), but I can't get out of the acpi-speedstep-cpufreq thing, anybody to help me before i kill myself [09:03] no need to kill yourself :) [09:04] well, I hope no [09:04] or I had to find a funny death [09:05] does it say that it's an old bios (cutoffdate 2000) or such? === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p5B06F85B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:05] non, it's fine from this side === LikeVinyl is now known as ] -[eavy [09:05] but some file seem to be missige [09:05] hallo [09:06] hi [09:06] *missing, I need to put some light === extrasticky [n=whitehan@p508872DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:08] hi === Nevermind [n=alex@i-195-137-124-156.freedom2surf.net] has joined #Xubuntu [09:09] hey [09:09] I have a god damn problem, [09:09] !language [09:09] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [09:09] what's the problem? [09:10] rofl, sorry judst gotten annoyed [09:10] no matter what i do , i can't see the shared folder/hard-drive on my network [09:11] (which is windows based) [09:11] What protocol? SMB (Windows Networking?) [09:11] yes [09:11] What program(s) you trying? [09:12] the shared folders one which comes with the OS, I've configured it to every bit of detail and still don't work === icheyne [n=iain@82-44-255-186.cable.ubr08.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === loak [n=voyageus@ALyon-153-1-38-158.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #xubuntu [] [09:16] Nevermind: there isn't a client for Samba included in Xubuntu. [09:16] I recommend LinNeighborhood [09:20] thankyou, I'm trying afew things now [09:20] The Shared Folders utility is for the server, not the client. [09:23] is pyNeighborhood any good? === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === MBR666 [n=bryan@pool-70-18-121-159.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:25] hello [09:25] hey [09:26] how be it === Nevermind [n=alex@i-195-137-124-156.freedom2surf.net] has left #Xubuntu [] [09:43] n8 === xBill [n=dario@p5494DF28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === One [n=One@dsl213-218-244-172.as15444.net] has joined #xubuntu === xjkx [n=x@201009005132.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [10:01] how do i configure my video card [10:01] if it uses xorg, xorgcfg isnt working/installed, is it using xorg? [10:02] i am trying to configure my video card with a text software, no text file editing [10:04] how do i install xorgcfg? [10:07] xjkx, the only way i know how to do advance configs is manually editing xorg.conf [10:08] i havent skills enough [10:08] or for resoultion or othe basic things you can use dpkg to reconfigure it [10:08] I want to change my card driver, can i do it with dpkg thing [10:09] editing xorg is much easier [10:09] trust me on that one [10:09] first open a Terminal [10:09] my equalizer of gmplayer doesnt work, the people on #mplayer said it could be the driver it is using, i need a list of drivers to choose, i have no idea what i'd put anyway [10:09] I believe its using vesa, i have a sis [10:09] sis something, i believe 740 [10:10] run grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:10] it will display a few but the last one should be the video driver [10:10] Driver "vesa" [10:10] the others might be mouse kbd stylus [10:11] that would be the once you are using [10:11]