=== SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-97-133-50.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === dv310p3r [n=dv310p3r@c-67-191-77-210.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@75.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu === aze_ [n=aze@75.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu === TelnetManta [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@107.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu === aze__ [n=aze@100.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-97-133-50.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === moquist [n=moquist@pool-70-20-46-60.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@82-133-115-120.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.4] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:00] Evening all === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.4] has joined #edubuntu === boyam [i=boyam12@166-82-81-31.quickclick.ctc.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === johnny [n=urr@66.93.119.120] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A964E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === johnny [n=urr@c-24-126-70-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:13] hi, i'm noticing that when a client autologin they were getting the wrong username, and it turns out the clients were using the contents of /etc/hostname to decide the username even tho it was assigned via dhcp [06:13] if i chmod 000 /etc/hostname, then all works as expected [06:13] and leave it empty [06:13] am i missing a proper dhcp option? [06:16] No, probably a bug. [06:16] This on gutsy, or feisty? [06:19] feisty [06:20] i'm currently happy that everything works tho :) [06:20] 1 box went online yesterday, and another today [06:20] my install is certainly one of the more limited LTSP installs :) [06:20] 4 boxes total [06:21] but i can see myself deploying it again in the future in more educational situations [06:21] we're gonna setup a "hack lab" so ltsp seems like a good choice [06:21] and doing it with gusty edubuntu right from the start should seriously help === Starting logfile irclogs/edubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | Tribe5 development release is out: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/ === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Fri Aug 24 09:56:09 2007 === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === NormanX [n=norman@189.134.105.226] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [i=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-143-234.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-233.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:32] bugger, no sbal [09:34] question to the room: [09:35] can [ia32/amd64] systems host ppc/sparc clients for netboot? i know the chroot has to be created on the relevent arch, but will endianness get in the way? [09:36] Kamping_Kaiser: good question :) sorry that I have no idea [09:37] hehe. i'll try and search out an answer - i was just about to start writing up some details on hosting/creating ltsp chroots for [other then server arch] [09:38] logically ... I'd say that as long as the clients can see the host, and load the correct o/s that they need themselves, it may work [09:38] yes [09:38] i almost had ppc clients working [09:38] but managing the software that works on both arches isn't really worth it atm [09:39] johnny, so they can boot but apps dont run? [09:41] sure they will [09:41] but you'd have to heavily manage the versions so they are as similiar as possible [09:41] if you wanted the config files to be compatible [09:42] sorry, not sure i understand why theres going to be versioning problems [09:48] well there was a reason that ubuntu withdrew support in ppc for a time [09:48] i dont recall it involving ltsp chroots ;) more number of systems in use [09:49] well if you have say, important gnome package X at version 2.18 for x86 and then only important gnome package X at 2.16 for ppc [09:50] the config files between both may or may not work together, depending obviously [09:50] or any other number of programs like pidgin [09:50] the list goes on, it just depends on what you're running [09:50] not everything compiles on every arch [09:50] or runs for that matter [09:50] i actually chose to go all x86 so i didn't have to deal with keeping config files in sync at all === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [09:51] no, but since the chroot is a fairly minimal setup i assumed the same chroot built everyware [09:51] and if i had to manage them seperately, it's just not that worth it [09:51] the base chroot may be fine, but i assume you'll be wanting apps :) [09:51] so in my case, i need flash,but flash isn't available on ppc [09:52] but since everything runs on the server, why is it relevent to the chroot? [09:52] so people who were using the imacs we have get less functionality than those using pcs [09:52] i couldn't get it to work :) [09:52] i had to install firefox 32 [09:52] even for the server running uhmm [09:52] it still runs the proper kernel [09:52] how anoying. *is shattered*. my writings just got harder [09:53] i could be completely wrong, i just know i couldn't get things to work the way i wanted [09:53] with some serious time spent [09:53] i finally got rid of the imacs and now everything is fine [09:54] I *may* try this out later, but installing a server with gutsy and making my old macs go just doesnt really inspire [09:54] hmm.. === johnny tries to remember the problem with flash [09:54] and how it got resolved [09:55] i didn't do that part [09:55] but i know that we never could get the 64bit stuff to work [09:55] the server is amd64 [09:55] and clients are normal i386 [09:56] i wish i had access to the box [09:56] right now [09:56] my chroot is definitely i386 [09:56] flash has issues on any !=ia32 system [09:56] yes [09:56] sadly [09:56] flash is necessary for public internet terminals tho [09:57] reminds me to install the flash plugin :) [09:57] lol === Kamping_Kaiser sits happy with no flash on his not public desktop ;) [09:57] i put two live today without flash, but i'll have to fix that up [09:58] and need more codecs in general [09:58] i hate dealing with that crap [09:58] :( [09:58] :( [09:58] like ms codecs [09:58] but even i need them occasionally [09:58] open source implementations were getting better last i checked [09:58] you stop caring after the first few weeks [09:58] not really [09:58] had my gentoo box for 4 years [09:58] i haven't stopped caring yet [09:59] hehe. [09:59] then again, it is easy for to do it [09:59] since i only have i386 [09:59] gah. i just opted to go out this evening. doco on building chrotos may have to wait [09:59] i looked in my chroots that i do have [10:00] hm.. what are Edubuntus offical archs? ia32+amd64+sparc? [10:00] seems to be pretty full installs, which is what leaves me to believe my comments [10:00] is sparc? [10:00] i don't know [10:00] 544M /opt/ltsp/i386/ [10:00] go to the site :) [10:00] yeah.. seems a pretty full install, and you'd have duplicate on ppc [10:00] not sure where i'd look *tries anyway* [10:00] full = 1.5gb surely [10:01] hmm? [10:01] i don't remember it being that big [10:01] well, plus swap file [10:01] and minus open office :) [10:01] Two architectures are provided and formally supported: [10:01] * PC (Intel x86) classroom server CD [10:01] * 64-bit PC (AMD64) classroom server CD [10:01] yeah.. that's what i thought [10:01] lol [10:01] didn't think that sparc was supported [10:02] not enough peeps have sparc or ppc boxes that aren't running apple stuff [10:02] see that as two seperate statements .. sparcs obviously don't run apple stuff [10:04] supported as a port, not offical though [10:17] afk. === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-45268152ce9f75f9] has joined #edubuntu === alexIdoia [n=haurra@ABayonne-256-1-42-188.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #edubuntu [10:30] hi there; I have installed edubuntu on 15 computer in a class room, everything went quite smoothly expect that I have only a screen resolution of 800x600 maximum [10:31] alexIdoia, waht video cards are in the sytems? [10:31] I went into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and there are plenty of higher resolution there, so I don't understand why they don't appear in my Preferences>Screen resolution utility [10:31] xorg on the server or in the chroot? [10:31] should I type lspci ? [10:32] that could help [10:32] that would help, yes :) === ogra guesses intel onboard cards ... [10:32] 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2) [10:32] or very old monitors ... [10:33] ah, k :) [10:33] alexIdoia, is that server or client? [10:33] hm... is that question relevent? [10:33] Kamping_Kaiser, workstation :) [10:33] ogra, ah, right :) [10:33] (is what he said above) === Kamping_Kaiser didnt spot that [10:33] Kamping_Kaiser: there are all independent machines [10:34] go to: System Administration Restricted Devices Manager [10:34] enable the nvidia driver .... [10:34] reboot ... [10:34] ok that simple :) [10:35] thank you [10:35] both [10:35] (assuming you have 7.04 .... for older releases see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ) [10:37] need to reboot noz [10:37] now === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [11:06] morning === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-170-86.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A95D51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.176] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-76624d3efc1dda28] has joined #edubuntu === jinty_ [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-233.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@192.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-143-234.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr [n=gta@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === adminGuy [n=admin@natpool-start.noble-hs.sad60.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@213-202-152-240.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-6e374f9b02e90b20] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-6e374f9b02e90b20] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:07] Morning all! [03:08] hey sbalneav [03:08] Hey RichEd [03:39] ogra: Hey, have you merged all my stuff yet? === ananas [n=ananas-m@xdslu022.osnanet.de] has joined #edubuntu === thedman [n=thedman@65-123-188-196.dia.static.frhs.org] has joined #edubuntu [04:35] sbalneav, no, but i'm on it (RL is a desaster today for me ...) [04:35] Oh, nothing bad I hope? [04:36] one of the guineapigs died this morning ... susie doesnt cope atm ... [04:36] Oh noes! [04:37] I had hampsters when I was young, so I can sympathise [04:37] beyond that there is a lot of other stuff going on she cant cope with atm and i have to [04:38] well, it was only 3 mounts old ... its pretty odd since we just got it [04:38] Well, have strength. And give her my regards. [04:38] will do, she just picks up the corpes from the vet ... [04:39] *corpse [04:40] Don't worry about it today, but the question came up in that ltspfs bug about a backport. [04:40] We can talk about it when things settle down for you. [04:41] that will need an SRU and plent of testing in proposed-updates [04:41] *plenty [04:41] i fear we wont get enough testing ... === pitux [n=pitux@200.113.28.118] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [05:10] heya [05:12] Hey bddebian === n2diy__ [n=darryl@wlk-barre-208-103-148-124.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:13] Hi sbalneav === mohamed_ [n=mohamed_@196.218.129.247] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === boyam [n=boyam12@208.104.11.156] has joined #edubuntu === ace_suares [n=ace@fupi.suares.an] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@A-57-175.cust.iol.ie] has joined #edubuntu [07:28] ogra: working on Moodle right now === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === ananas_ [n=ananas-m@xdslbo009.osnanet.de] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@200.113.28.118] has joined #edubuntu === mohamed_ [n=mohamed_@196.218.129.247] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu [08:20] moquist:that must be the longest response time ever..gives real-time new meaning 8~) === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-233.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@c1-54-16.wblv.isadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:00] cliebow: I don't follow... you mean b/c he asked yesterday, or something? Yeah, that's a while. :) === eandres25 [n=eye@201.198.1.182] has joined #edubuntu [09:08] Hi! I need to Know how I can use edubuntu in Counseling, vocational o educative? [09:11] Can somebody help me? === pmatulis [n=pmatulis@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #edubuntu [09:22] eandres25: hi [09:23] eandres25: can you describe what you need a bit more? === highvoltage [n=highvolt@c1-54-16.wblv.isadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:31] LaserJock: I'm also working on a native package, and I've got a debian/install file that seems not to be doing anything...what is it in debian/rules that actually *runs* that file? [09:31] I'm looking at the dh_install stuff, but it's not yet clear to me. [09:31] dh_install [09:32] K. and that should probably be run under the install: target? [09:33] hola LaserJocko [09:34] moquist: yep [09:34] highvoltage: hola me amigo [09:38] LaserJock: thx. I got going on the moodle stuff and realized I needed a *gutsy* test system...losing that vmware server sucked. [09:40] LaserJock, ok, I don't speak English, but I will try. [09:42] I'm student and I want that my classmates know about Edubuntu, but I need to describe it like a toolboxes for counseling [09:43] Or if you know a technological tool for counseling it will be ok [09:43] hmm, that is somewhat hard to answer === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-243-9-218.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:45] mmm, that's a big problem to me... [09:45] you might look at some of the material on http://www.edubuntu.org/UsingEdubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-243-9-218.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:46] LaserJock, thank you! 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