[04:00] <sbalneav> Evening all
[06:13] <johnny> hi, i'm noticing that when a client autologin they were getting the wrong username, and it turns out the clients were using the contents of /etc/hostname to decide the username even tho it was assigned via dhcp
[06:13] <johnny> if i chmod 000 /etc/hostname, then all works as expected
[06:13] <johnny> and leave it empty
[06:13] <johnny> am i missing a proper dhcp option?
[06:16] <sbalneav> No, probably a bug.
[06:16] <sbalneav> This on gutsy, or feisty?
[06:19] <johnny> feisty
[06:20] <johnny> i'm currently happy that everything works tho :)
[06:20] <johnny> 1 box went online yesterday, and another today
[06:20] <johnny> my install is certainly one of the more limited LTSP installs :)
[06:20] <johnny> 4 boxes total
[06:21] <johnny> but i can see myself deploying it again in the future in more educational situations
[06:21] <johnny> we're gonna setup a "hack lab" so ltsp seems like a good choice
[06:21] <johnny> and doing it with gusty edubuntu right from the start should seriously help
[09:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> bugger, no sbal
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> question to the room:
[09:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> can [ia32/amd64]  systems host ppc/sparc clients for netboot? i know the chroot has to be created on the relevent arch, but will endianness get in the way?
[09:36] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: good question :) sorry that I have no idea
[09:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. i'll try and search out an answer - i was just about to start writing up some details on hosting/creating ltsp chroots for [other then server arch] 
[09:38] <RichEd> logically ... I'd say that as long as the clients can see the host, and load the correct o/s that they need themselves, it may work
[09:38] <johnny> yes
[09:38] <johnny> i almost had ppc clients working
[09:38] <johnny> but managing the software that works on both arches isn't really worth it atm
[09:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> johnny, so they can boot but apps dont run?
[09:41] <johnny> sure they will
[09:41] <johnny> but you'd have to heavily manage the versions so they are as similiar as possible
[09:41] <johnny> if you wanted the config files to be compatible
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, not sure i understand why theres going to be versioning problems
[09:48] <johnny> well there was a reason that ubuntu withdrew support in ppc for a time
[09:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont recall it involving ltsp chroots ;) more number of systems in use
[09:49] <johnny> well if you have say, important gnome package X at version 2.18 for x86 and then only important gnome package X at 2.16 for ppc
[09:50] <johnny> the config files between both may or may not work together, depending obviously
[09:50] <johnny> or any other number of programs like pidgin
[09:50] <johnny> the list goes on, it just depends on what you're running
[09:50] <johnny> not everything compiles on every arch
[09:50] <johnny> or runs for that matter
[09:50] <johnny> i actually chose to go all x86 so i didn't have to deal with keeping config files in sync at all
[09:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, but since the chroot is a fairly minimal setup i assumed the same chroot built everyware
[09:51] <johnny> and if i had to manage them seperately, it's just not that worth it
[09:51] <johnny> the base chroot may be fine, but i assume you'll be wanting apps :)
[09:51] <johnny> so in my case, i need flash,but flash isn't available on ppc
[09:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> but since everything runs on the server, why is it relevent to the chroot?
[09:52] <johnny> so people who were using the imacs we have get less functionality than those using pcs
[09:52] <johnny> i couldn't get it to work :)
[09:52] <johnny> i had to install firefox 32
[09:52] <johnny> even for the server running uhmm
[09:52] <johnny> it still runs the proper kernel
[09:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> how anoying. *is shattered*. my writings just got harder
[09:53] <johnny> i could be completely wrong, i just know i couldn't get things to work the way i wanted
[09:53] <johnny> with some serious time spent
[09:53] <johnny> i finally got rid of the imacs and now everything is fine
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> I *may* try this out later, but installing a server with gutsy and making my old macs go just doesnt really inspire
[09:54] <johnny> hmm..
[09:54] <johnny> and how it got resolved
[09:55] <johnny> i didn't do that part
[09:55] <johnny> but i know that we never could get the 64bit stuff to work
[09:55] <johnny> the server is amd64
[09:55] <johnny> and clients are normal i386
[09:56] <johnny> i wish i had access to the box
[09:56] <johnny> right now
[09:56] <johnny> my chroot is definitely i386
[09:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> flash has issues on any !=ia32 system
[09:56] <johnny> yes
[09:56] <johnny> sadly
[09:56] <johnny> flash is necessary for public internet terminals tho
[09:57] <johnny> reminds me to install the flash plugin :)
[09:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[09:57] <johnny> i put two live today without flash, but i'll have to fix that up
[09:58] <johnny> and need more codecs in general
[09:58] <johnny> i hate dealing with that crap
[09:58] <johnny> :(
[09:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[09:58] <johnny> like ms codecs
[09:58] <johnny> but even i need them occasionally
[09:58] <johnny> open source implementations were getting better last i checked
[09:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> you stop caring after the first few weeks
[09:58] <johnny> not really
[09:58] <johnny> had my gentoo box for 4 years
[09:58] <johnny> i haven't stopped caring yet
[09:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe.
[09:59] <johnny> then again, it is easy for to do it
[09:59] <johnny> since i only have i386
[09:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> gah. i just opted to go out this evening. doco on building chrotos may have to wait
[09:59] <johnny> i looked in my chroots that i do have
[10:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.. what are Edubuntus offical archs? ia32+amd64+sparc?
[10:00] <johnny> seems to be pretty full installs, which is what leaves me to believe my comments
[10:00] <johnny> is sparc?
[10:00] <johnny> i don't know
[10:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> 544M    /opt/ltsp/i386/
[10:00] <johnny> go to the site :)
[10:00] <johnny> yeah.. seems a pretty full install, and you'd have duplicate on ppc
[10:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure where i'd look *tries anyway*
[10:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> full = 1.5gb surely
[10:01] <johnny> hmm?
[10:01] <johnny> i don't remember it being that big
[10:01] <johnny> well, plus swap file
[10:01] <johnny> and minus open office :)
[10:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> Two architectures are provided and formally supported:
[10:01] <Kamping_Kaiser>     * PC (Intel x86) classroom server CD
[10:01] <Kamping_Kaiser>     * 64-bit PC (AMD64) classroom server CD
[10:01] <johnny> yeah.. that's what i thought
[10:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[10:01] <johnny> didn't think that sparc was supported
[10:02] <johnny> not enough peeps have sparc or ppc boxes that aren't running apple stuff
[10:02] <johnny> see that as two seperate statements .. sparcs obviously don't run apple stuff
[10:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> supported as a port, not offical though
[10:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> afk.
[10:30] <alexIdoia> hi there; I have installed edubuntu on 15 computer in a class room, everything went quite smoothly expect that I have only a screen resolution of 800x600 maximum
[10:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> alexIdoia, waht video cards are in the sytems?
[10:31] <alexIdoia> I went into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and there are plenty of higher resolution there, so I don't understand why they don't appear in my Preferences>Screen resolution utility
[10:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> xorg on the server or in the chroot?
[10:31] <alexIdoia> should I type lspci ?
[10:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> that could help
[10:32] <ogra> that would help, yes :)
[10:32] <alexIdoia> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100]  (rev a2)
[10:32] <ogra> or very old monitors ...
[10:33] <ogra> ah, k :)
[10:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> alexIdoia, is that server or client?
[10:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm... is that question relevent?
[10:33] <ogra> Kamping_Kaiser, workstation :)
[10:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ogra, ah, right :)
[10:33] <ogra> (is what he said above)
[10:33] <alexIdoia> Kamping_Kaiser: there are all independent machines
[10:34] <ogra> go to: System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager
[10:34] <ogra> enable the nvidia driver ....
[10:34] <ogra> reboot ...
[10:34] <alexIdoia> ok that simple :)
[10:35] <alexIdoia> thank you
[10:35] <alexIdoia> both
[10:35] <ogra> (assuming you have 7.04 .... for older releases see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia )
[10:37] <alexIdoia> need to reboot noz
[10:37] <alexIdoia> now
[11:06] <juliux> morning
[03:07] <sbalneav> Morning all!
[03:08] <RichEd> hey sbalneav
[03:08] <sbalneav> Hey RichEd
[03:39] <sbalneav> ogra: Hey, have you merged all my stuff yet?
[04:35] <ogra> sbalneav, no, but i'm on it (RL is a desaster today for me ...)
[04:35] <sbalneav> Oh, nothing bad I hope?
[04:36] <ogra> one of the guineapigs died this morning ... susie doesnt cope atm ...
[04:36] <sbalneav> Oh noes!
[04:37] <sbalneav> I had hampsters when I was young, so I can sympathise
[04:37] <ogra> beyond that there is a lot of other stuff going on she cant cope with atm and i have to
[04:38] <ogra> well, it was only 3 mounts old ... its pretty odd since we just got it
[04:38] <sbalneav> Well, have strength.  And give her my regards.
[04:38] <ogra> will do, she just picks up the corpes from the vet ...
[04:39] <ogra> *corpse
[04:40] <sbalneav> Don't worry about it today, but the question came up in that ltspfs bug about a backport.
[04:40] <sbalneav> We can talk about it when things settle down for you.
[04:41] <ogra> that will need an SRU and plent of testing in proposed-updates
[04:41] <ogra> *plenty
[04:41] <ogra> i fear we wont get enough testing ...
[05:10] <bddebian> heya
[05:12] <sbalneav> Hey bddebian
[05:13] <bddebian> Hi sbalneav
[07:28] <moquist> ogra: working on Moodle right now
[08:20] <cliebow> moquist:that must be the longest response time ever..gives real-time new meaning 8~)
[09:00] <moquist> cliebow: I don't follow... you mean b/c he asked yesterday, or something? Yeah, that's a while. :)
[09:08] <eandres25> Hi! I need to Know how I can use edubuntu in Counseling, vocational o educative?
[09:11] <eandres25> Can somebody help me?
[09:22] <LaserJock> eandres25: hi
[09:23] <LaserJock> eandres25: can you describe what you need a bit more?
[09:31] <moquist> LaserJock: I'm also working on a native package, and I've got a debian/install file that seems not to be doing anything...what is it in debian/rules that actually *runs* that file?
[09:31] <moquist> I'm looking at the dh_install stuff, but it's not yet clear to me.
[09:31] <LaserJock> dh_install
[09:32] <moquist> K. and that should probably be run under the install: target?
[09:33] <highvoltage> hola LaserJocko
[09:34] <LaserJock> moquist: yep
[09:34] <LaserJock> highvoltage: hola me amigo
[09:38] <moquist> LaserJock: thx. I got going on the moodle stuff and realized I needed a *gutsy* test system...losing that vmware server sucked.
[09:40] <eandres25> LaserJock, ok, I don't speak English, but I will try.
[09:42] <eandres25> I'm student and I want that my classmates know about Edubuntu, but I need to describe it like a toolboxes for counseling
[09:43] <eandres25> Or if you know a technological tool for counseling it will be ok
[09:43] <LaserJock> hmm, that is somewhat hard to answer
[09:45] <eandres25> mmm, that's a big problem to me...
[09:45] <LaserJock> you might look at some of the material on http://www.edubuntu.org/UsingEdubuntu
[09:46] <eandres25> LaserJock, thank you!
[09:46] <LaserJock> eandres25: I don't even know what kinds of tools would be used in Counseling
[09:50] <moquist> apt-ftparchive is complaining in gutsy:
[09:50] <moquist>   smbldap-configure has no source override entry
[09:50] <moquist>   smbldap-configure has no binary override entry either