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| manchicken | Seems as though xgl kinda sucks right now. | 12:40 |
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| manchicken | Grr... stuck compiz in so many places that I kept missing them removing them. | 12:45 |
| erenko | Herkese iyi geceler | 01:01 |
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| cynics | bug #13550084 is like http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/3080 | 02:54 |
| cynics | bug #1355084 is like http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/3080 | 02:54 |
| FrankH | is anyone else having trouble with flash and konqueror in gutsy? | 02:54 |
| cynics | bug #135084 | 02:54 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135084 in kdebase "Kicker adds _: Entries in K-menu: to certain programs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135084 | 02:54 |
| jjesse | FrankH: there are several bugs about if i recall | 02:58 |
| FrankH | ok | 02:58 |
| FrankH | does the latest kernel cause a panic for anyone else? | 02:59 |
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| ryanakca | FrankH: updated bug 135084 | 03:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135084 in kdebase "Kicker adds _: Entries in K-menu: to certain programs" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135084 | 03:11 |
| ryanakca | hey Jucato | 03:12 |
| Jucato | hi ryanakca! | 03:12 |
| ryanakca | Long time no see :) | 03:12 |
| Jucato | heh yeah :) | 03:12 |
| FrankH | thanks, ryanakca | 03:13 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato! :) | 03:13 |
| DaSkreech | Going to check dog food then kick my ISP | 03:13 |
| Jucato | hm... dog food :) | 03:14 |
| DaSkreech | bah | 03:16 |
| DaSkreech | might as well reboot to windows | 03:16 |
| Jucato | O.o | 03:16 |
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| ryanakca | hmm. anybody know how to test kmenu in appletproxy | 03:20 |
| ryanakca | ? | 03:21 |
| manchicken | powersaved seems to really work better on this system76 machine. | 03:21 |
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| Jucato | claydoh!!!!! | 03:22 |
| claydoh | welcome back | 03:22 |
| Jucato | hehe thanks :) | 03:22 |
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| ryanakca | hehe, you are :) | 03:23 |
| Jucato | hahaha | 03:23 |
| nixternal | booyah! | 03:46 |
| jjesse | nixternal: still updating my fresh debian install :) | 03:46 |
| jjesse | 482 packages updated | 03:46 |
| nixternal | yowser | 03:47 |
| nixternal | didn't they just do a newer release of etch? or have they just started the tagging? | 03:47 |
| nixternal | kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils and maybe kdevelop and kdetoys to go | 03:48 |
| jjesse | i'm using a testing install of debian (lenny i think) | 03:48 |
| nixternal | ahh | 03:48 |
| nixternal | testing would be lenny | 03:48 |
| jjesse | wahoo tigers are whomping on the yankees | 03:49 |
| manchicken | So which seems to be better? gnash or swfdec? | 03:49 |
| nixternal | and the Cubs are in 1st :) | 03:49 |
| nixternal | manchicken: unfortunately...neither | 03:49 |
| jjesse | did hell just freeze over? | 03:49 |
| nixternal | haha, I think so | 03:49 |
| manchicken | nspluginviewer doesn't seem to be working very well in konq. | 03:49 |
| nixternal | not with gutsy it isn't | 03:49 |
| nixternal | err, let me rephrase that...yes it is broken in gutsy...I remember you saying you updated to gutsy earlier | 03:50 |
| nixternal | I guess we are hoping that opensuse fixes it | 03:50 |
| jjesse | i was hoping nixternal was fixing it :) | 03:51 |
| manchicken | Aren't they moving to GNOME? | 03:51 |
| manchicken | (I guess hell froze over) | 03:51 |
| nixternal | dunno...I know they have a big KDE following over there | 03:51 |
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| manchicken | Hmm... my machine keeps thinking the battery is running out and switching into power-save. | 05:29 |
| manchicken | The nice thing, on this machine that doesn't result in a kernel panic. | 05:29 |
| manchicken | So sweet. | 05:29 |
| DaSKreech | ha ha :) | 05:29 |
| DaSKreech | it's so easy to make a geek happy | 05:29 |
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| manchicken | Yes. Yes it is. | 05:40 |
| manchicken | Give me what I pay for and make it suck less and I'm very happy. | 05:40 |
| manchicken | I've already got most of my environment migrated over. | 05:40 |
| DaSKreech | manchicken: KDE4 ? | 05:42 |
| manchicken | Naw, I'm running Gutsy kubuntu on my new System76 machine. | 05:44 |
| manchicken | I'm so happy to have some battery life. | 05:45 |
| DaSKreech | Wait | 05:45 |
| DaSKreech | thats real? | 05:45 |
| manchicken | Yes. | 06:12 |
| manchicken | I've been on battery for a few hours now, and I've still got some time left. | 06:12 |
| DaSKreech | what's it like? | 06:13 |
| DaSKreech | how long did they take to ship? | 06:13 |
| DaSKreech | can I get a Linux sticker with it? | 06:13 |
| manchicken | They ship rather quickly. | 06:16 |
| manchicken | It took a total of 11 days. | 06:16 |
| manchicken | Calendar. | 06:16 |
| manchicken | But I bought up on the shipping. I got the 2nd-day shipping. | 06:16 |
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| DaSKreech | where are you? | 06:18 |
| manchicken | About 150mi south of Chicago. | 06:18 |
| DaSKreech | Hmm so it would take like a month and half to reach me | 06:19 |
| manchicken | where are you at? | 06:20 |
| manchicken | I'm not sure what their international shipping is like. | 06:20 |
| DaSKreech | in the caribbean | 06:20 |
| manchicken | It only took 1.5 days to reach me once they shipped it. | 06:20 |
| manchicken | Most of the wait time was weekend and manufacturing. | 06:21 |
| DaSKreech | I'ts built when you order it? | 06:21 |
| DaSKreech | i thought that it was one SKU | 06:22 |
| manchicken | Yeah | 06:22 |
| manchicken | Naw, it's built to order | 06:23 |
| manchicken | I got some custom stuff done with mine, so maybe they do inventory the default-builds. | 06:23 |
| manchicken | I wouldn't doubt if most of the folks who buy from them customize it a bit though. | 06:24 |
| manchicken | This 12.1" guy is just fantastic. | 06:25 |
| manchicken | I'm gonna head to bed though. Catch you later. | 06:25 |
| DaSKreech | Nighht | 06:31 |
| DaSKreech | manchicken: Does it have wifi? | 06:31 |
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| innovati | hey guys, I'm going to be testing various laptops and trying to find the best one for running Kubuntu | 06:43 |
| innovati | is there a utility on the liveCD that would either benchmark or allow me to compare the performace of kubuntu on each machine in an apples to apples way? | 06:44 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | Tribe 5 out | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Aug 23 23:58:53 2007 | ||
| (DaSKreech/#kubuntu-devel) i'm guessing no :) | 06:49 | |
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| Tonio_ | Hi there | 09:20 |
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| _StefanS_ | morning | 09:31 |
| _StefanS_ | finally number #2 came.. 4300grams / 54cm in length. | 09:32 |
| Jucato | morning _StefanS_ | 09:32 |
| _StefanS_ | Hey Jucato | 09:32 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: !!! | 09:43 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I was looking for you :) | 09:43 |
| _StefanS_ | oh ? :) | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: interested in improving kdebluetooth ? | 09:44 |
| _StefanS_ | well I've been busy with the new boy | 09:44 |
| _StefanS_ | ^ | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: coupple of things that don't work correctly :) | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!! | 09:44 |
| _StefanS_ | :D | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: congratulations !!!!!!! | 09:44 |
| _StefanS_ | thank you :) | 09:44 |
| _StefanS_ | He's doing fine, and the mom also. | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | great | 09:44 |
| Jucato | wow congratulations!! | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | is she still in hospital ? | 09:45 |
| _StefanS_ | but its a little hard when you have 1 year old also ;) - kinda busy house | 09:45 |
| _StefanS_ | nope, we came back the same day. | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I suspect so ;) | 09:45 |
| _StefanS_ | the whole deal took 3 hours. | 09:45 |
| _StefanS_ | kinda quick :) | 09:45 |
| Jucato | wow I've only been gone for 2 months now _StefanS_ has a new baby :) | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: forget kdebluetooth then, we'll find someone else :) | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | allee: ping ? | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: interested in working on kdebluetooth ? ;) | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: now that _StefanS_ might not have time.... ;) | 09:47 |
| Jucato | sorry.. no packaging/coding skills acquired during my sabbatical :( | 09:47 |
| Jucato | quite unfortunate though, since I actually have the hardware to run tests (usb bluetooth + phone) | 09:47 |
| _StefanS_ | what needs to be done in kbt ? | 09:48 |
| _StefanS_ | typing while giving a bottle of milk heh | 09:49 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: deadline ? ^ | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: there are problems with the systray icon | 09:50 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: to make it simple : when you hide it, it doesn't hide | 09:50 |
| _StefanS_ | tell me about it :) i told you a week ago :) | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: second problem : when you want it hidden and restart kdebluetooth, you don't see the icon, but the space is still used in the systray, it should do like adept updater for example | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | hum true | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | you already said that | 09:51 |
| _StefanS_ | yep got it. | 09:51 |
| _StefanS_ | is that the only problems ? | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: last thing (and that's new), kdebluetooth doesn't want to start when there is no pluggued bluetooth device | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: it should (I guess) detect when a new device is connected, that's the way the old framework worked | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: and I suspect that should be possible pretty easilly | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: shouldn't be that hard to detect a dbus event or something to see when a device is connected | 09:53 |
| _StefanS_ | got it. | 09:53 |
| _StefanS_ | so how much time to fix it? | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: we have general exception for kdebluetooth so I'd say that you have a bit of time | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | not 3 weeks of course, but a week or so | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: just fixing the hide thing in the systray would be good | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I think allee is working on the card detection ar startup | 09:56 |
| _StefanS_ | good, I'll focus on the tray thingy. | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: best would be in fact to remove that systray hiding option and make it automatic | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: for example : start it -> no icon | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | plug the bluetooth device -> icon appears | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: that's seems to be the good way to do no ? | 09:57 |
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| _StefanS_ | hmm what if you want to configure something before you activate a bluetooth device ? That would be kinda hard with the icon not being there. | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: the problem atm is that there is no way in the code to detect the device dinamically, just at startup | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: every setting is applied on a device, within it's mac address | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: no device, no settings, that's simple | 09:58 |
| _StefanS_ | ah ok | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | so that would be the good way to do, but first fixing the hiding function to hide correctly would be good | 09:58 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: as I said, adept is a perfect example, as it does it correctly | 09:59 |
| _StefanS_ | I'm going to take some notes and start looking at it. | 09:59 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: if you want to guess how old kdebluetooth was detecting the devide pluging, I can have a look on that point toonight | 09:59 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: super ;) you rock | 10:00 |
| _StefanS_ | I'm off for two 2 weeks without the regular day-job, so I have some 2-3 hours a day to look at it. | 10:00 |
| _StefanS_ | starting now :) | 10:00 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| _StefanS_ | hey Hobbsee | 10:00 |
| _StefanS_ | anyone know how lpia is going ? | 10:00 |
| _StefanS_ | wowsers. thats alot of updates | 10:01 |
| _StefanS_ | 232mb since last week :) | 10:01 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: that new LCD monitor you bought a while ago, was it a Samsung? | 10:05 |
| Jucato | yep | 10:06 |
| Jucato | 740N | 10:06 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: uhm thats a 17" ? | 10:06 |
| Jucato | yep | 10:06 |
| Jucato | 1280x1024 | 10:06 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: uhm ok, I was looking to buy that 24" 1920x1200 that they make... its very cheap, and I was concerned with the image quality | 10:07 |
| _StefanS_ | what was the model number.. uh. | 10:07 |
| Jucato | wow! 24" :) | 10:07 |
| Jucato | oh btw, I finally got a dead-tree copy of the Qt 4 book. ) | 10:07 |
| Jucato | :) | 10:07 |
| _StefanS_ | well its _very_ cheap.. 245B its called | 10:08 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: let me know if its any good ! | 10:08 |
| Jucato | sure :) | 10:08 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: budget version of 244T. | 10:08 |
| Jucato | according to nixternal, he finds it better than either Qt Foundations or danimo's | 10:08 |
| _StefanS_ | nice, did you get it from amazon? | 10:08 |
| Jucato | nope. local bookstore | 10:09 |
| Jucato | C++ GUI programming with Qt 4... it just hit our local bookstore this month | 10:09 |
| _StefanS_ | gotta look here in dk then | 10:09 |
| Jucato | along with 3 Ubuntu books :) | 10:09 |
| _StefanS_ | might be on its way, even though it usually takes time. | 10:09 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: arent we supposed to have a graphical Xorg configuration gui also for kde? | 10:10 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: like in regular ubuntu ? :) | 10:10 |
| Jucato | don't we usually get new features 1 release later? :) | 10:10 |
| Jucato | wait, doesn't kde-guidance do that already? | 10:11 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm.. | 10:11 |
| === Jucato was thinking of the GRUB gui.. | ||
| _StefanS_ | seems we only have some basic xorg configuration | 10:12 |
| Jucato | ah you meant more advanced... | 10:12 |
| Jucato | hm.. has anyone taken a look at KX Config for that? | 10:12 |
| _StefanS_ | its on kde-look.org, right? | 10:12 |
| Jucato | searching | 10:12 |
| _StefanS_ | I think I saw it in the past. It also tries to support prop. gfx, right? | 10:12 |
| Jucato | I had the link before.. | 10:12 |
| Jucato | sorry KX Generator | 10:13 |
| Jucato | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kX+Generator?content=39085 | 10:13 |
| _StefanS_ | right. | 10:13 |
| _StefanS_ | although I dont like it just resembles the configurationfile top-down. | 10:13 |
| Jucato | ah | 10:13 |
| _StefanS_ | I mean,. its logical for a programmer to design it like that, but users dont really care ;) | 10:14 |
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| _StefanS_ | Its confusing I think. | 10:14 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yes, we have the kde-guidance | 10:14 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: might requires a few new features to get the same functionnality level I suspect | 10:14 |
| _StefanS_ | Monitors and Displays in systemsettings., right ? | 10:14 |
| _StefanS_ | yep. | 10:14 |
| Jucato | yep | 10:14 |
| Jucato | or displayconfig | 10:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: same thing. | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: that kx generator is nice, but it has a big problem : it is not a kcontrol module ;) | 10:15 |
| Jucato | I meant if you wanted to run it solo :) | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hard to integrate properly | 10:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: yea, and and the layout doesnt really appeal that much to me either. | 10:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: wizard stuff would be nice too. | 10:15 |
| _StefanS_ | autodetect and so on using ddc probe | 10:16 |
| Jucato | hm.. weird... the layout of kxg on a local distro seems to be different from the one in the screenshots... | 10:16 |
| _StefanS_ | but we'll have to wait with that until I get employed full time by canonical hehe :) | 10:16 |
| _StefanS_ | (just kidding) | 10:16 |
| Jucato | what a dream | 10:16 |
| _StefanS_ | I think I'm going to buy that monitor. Looks kinda nice. | 10:16 |
| Jucato | :) | 10:16 |
| _StefanS_ | heh ;) | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | oh nice someone fixed subversion in lpia | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | phew. | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | damn ruby stuff :D | 10:18 |
| _StefanS_ | anyone know if HP's brightview is a glossy coating? | 10:22 |
| _StefanS_ | argh seems like it. | 10:23 |
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| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: do you know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/65757 is gone? | 10:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 65757 in kde-guidance "kde-guidance: the initscript hangs the whole system" [Undecided,New] | 10:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: I havent seen that bug at all. | 10:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: dont think thats an issue anymore | 10:41 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: cool | 10:41 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: i decided to do a bit of bug triage on kde-guidance. i assume there's a point in that | 10:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: do ask around though, someonen might still experience it. | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | k | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: did you happen to know if lure wants to keep these open, if they're at incomplete? | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm, we need to check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/109443 before beta | 10:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109443 in kde-guidance "update/upgrade failed" [Undecided,New] | 10:47 |
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| _StefanS_ | err just had to change a diaper | 10:54 |
| _StefanS_ | lemme check | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: any idea if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/105439 is still a problem, too? | 10:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 105439 in kde-guidance "power-manager not loads correct .mo file" [Undecided,New] | 10:55 |
| _StefanS_ | 109443 needs to have a dependency on python-scanpci i expect | 10:56 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: what's that? | 10:56 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: it doesnt exist in gutsy | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm 2secs | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: kde-guidance-powermanager works fine here | 11:03 |
| _StefanS_ | no .mo errors. | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: does ti relate to a different language? | 11:03 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: could be.. seems like its russian. | 11:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: cant test language here. | 11:04 |
| Hobbsee | ok | 11:04 |
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| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: maybe guidance-pwrmgr wasnt translated to russu | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | russian? | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | oh I see it was.- | 11:06 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: you can upload kdesdk to lpia also. It builds without changes to the package. | 11:12 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: someone submitted subversion which it depended upon. | 11:12 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: I gotta go, sorry. | 11:12 |
| Hobbsee | no problem | 11:12 |
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| Riddell | _Sime: ever heard of Uwe Koziolek? he sent me an update to pcitable for nvidia for guidance | 11:31 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like there is a fix for nspluginviewer.... | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: testing right now | 12:00 |
| allee | Tonio_: morning :) | 12:03 |
| allee | Tonio_: I've worked out the kbt startup issue. Sent it last (late) night to kubuntu-devel, but have not got the msg back from the list :( | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | allee: ah :( | 12:04 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: what does your fix exactly ? avoids the error when started without a plugued key ? | 12:05 |
| allee | Tonio_: I'll sent it to you. What's _StefanS_ e-mail? | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | allee: lemme check | 12:05 |
| allee | Tonio_: start/not start when device is available on startup. Start bkt when a device get's plugged later | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | allee: nice | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | allee: does it deal with unpluging/repluging ? | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | allee: sfs_at_enhance-it.dk | 12:07 |
| allee | Tonio_: the script does not exit kbt when a device is unplugged. But it listens to device removal, just does nothing in this case | 12:07 |
| allee | Tonio_: sent to you laposte e-mail. | 12:09 |
| allee | Strange that it's not on the k-d list after 10 hours | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | allee: yep :( | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I'll work on that bluetooth thingy toonight ;) | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | allee: atm I have to test that nspluginviewer patch, I can't stand having to use firefox all day long :) | 12:10 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: oh? where? | 12:11 |
| allee | Tonio_: right, as I want to switch to Gusty for my primary laptop, I can only agree :) | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=294385#c22 | 12:12 |
| ubotu | Novell bug 294385 in GNOME "glib2 busyloops, blocking Konqueror and Opera on flash sites" [Blocker,Assigned] | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: see at the bottom.... currently building here for testing :) | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that won't fix opera btw | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't understand the point of that bug in fact, is that a deep change in gtk or a libglib bug ? | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | looks like a gtk bug btw, as lots of gtk based apps have to be fixed (OOo, nspluginviewer, acroread...) | 12:14 |
| Riddell | mm, making nspluginviewer depend on gtk, yay | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yup I saw that, but well, as we already provide gtk with gtk-qt-engines...... | 12:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and if that really fixes the problem... | 12:17 |
| Riddell | gtk-qt-engines doesn't depend on gtk | 12:18 |
| Riddell | amarok however does | 12:18 |
| Riddell | so does skim | 12:18 |
| Riddell | hmm, gtk-qt-engine does depend on gtk, that should be fixed | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yep amarok for the libgpod I guess | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: isn't that normal that gtk-qt depends on gtk ? ;) | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: how fixing ? that's a builddep | 12:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, but I removed the shlib dependency in the past | 12:20 |
| Riddell | this brings bad karma and someone must have put it back | 12:21 |
| Riddell | but it doesn't do any harm, since a gtk engine can't be used until you install gtk | 12:21 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: yep | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll let you know what about the patch result, and then you decide what to do with it.... | 12:22 |
| Riddell | if it works, we should apply it | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | k | 12:23 |
| Riddell | upstream should still fix the issue, but they're selfish and probably won't | 12:24 |
| Riddell | and flash/acroread should also fix the issue but they're proprietry and probably won't | 12:24 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: well concerning acroread, no chance, but I suspect a fix might come along for flash, as there are regular updates for this | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: still proprietary, but adobe looks like pushing for something good | 12:28 |
| Riddell | I wonder how much that's due to competition from gnash/swfdec | 12:29 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: have you looked at system menu not working with dolphin at all? | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not yet but that's planned | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can have a look toonight or tomorrow, not yet.... | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: how to reproduce ? | 12:31 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have several things to tst on dolphin but I wasn't aware of that issue, and I can't see any "system" entry in it | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: OH ! the kicker system thing ? | 12:33 |
| Riddell | yes | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay that's just a desktop file problem | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: needs to accept URLs | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | \ | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | rah.... %U | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: patching this right now | 12:35 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: is there a launchpad bug related to this ? | 12:39 |
| Riddell | not that I've noticed | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | I was looking at the list of dolphin's bugs, I can fix some of them pretty quickly, doing that now, during lunch :) | 12:41 |
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| Riddell | nice | 12:42 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: did you add kvkbd to k-d-s? | 01:23 |
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| Riddell | I noticed my inbox was getting filled up this morning :) | 01:25 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 01:26 |
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| nixternal | what a beautiful day! mornin' everyone, or afternoon, or how about evening? :) | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | good evening nixternal! | 01:54 |
| Riddell | ah, nixternal, ogra was saying you were interested in maintaining edubuntu-desktop-kde | 01:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: + * When I open some directory by Dolphin, on the right column, under the images, all the operation are duplicated ('compress here', 'open | 01:59 |
| Riddell | +as root', are listed twice) | 01:59 |
| Riddell | seen that? | 01:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looking | 01:59 |
| Riddell | also: + * if there is a directory that contains space in the name (for example 'New Folder'), and I open this directory by 'open a root' option | 01:59 |
| Riddell | +(in Dolphin), Dolphin will open 2 directory: a directory named 'New' and another named 'Folder', and than alert me that this directorys | 01:59 |
| Riddell | +doesn't exists. | 01:59 |
| Riddell | I've not verified, this is just from the tribe Feedback page | 02:00 |
| nixternal | Riddell: orly | 02:01 |
| nixternal | I would be interested as a matter of fact | 02:02 |
| Riddell | nixternal: groovy, the job's yours. not that it should need much work, just checking if there's new apps in the desktop seed to be added | 02:06 |
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| Riddell | hi Jucato | 02:09 |
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| Jucato | oh good no one noticed my wav hahaha | 02:11 |
| Jucato | hi Hobbsee | 02:11 |
| Jucato | next time I should ogg :P | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | hiya Jucato | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kvdb is planned too | 02:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: toonight | 02:12 |
| jjesse | morning | 02:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the operations are not duplicated in dolphin for me | 02:13 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ok, as I say I've not verified | 02:14 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: as I said, I'd preferably not set dolphin as default, only install it, for gutsy | 02:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we really should reconsider this imho, as there are lots of little bugs in dolphin, making it an immature software | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but we should reconsider this quick :) | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | another bug I found is that dolphin doesn't work with help:/ | 02:16 |
| Tonio_ | which is a bit nasty.... | 02:16 |
| Riddell | in which scenario? | 02:16 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: see bug 132375 | 02:19 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132375 in dolphin "Dolphin doesn't properly use the help:/ kio" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132375 | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: of course that's only for people that are used to type help:/ in the address bar | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | clicking a link somewhere or a desktop icon will launch konqueror | 02:20 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: groovy right back at ya | 02:26 |
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| jjesse | morning nixternal | 02:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: doing kvkbd now, I have a couple of minutes to do it | 02:27 |
| nixternal | mornin' jjesse | 02:28 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: fyi, session entry doesn't help having kvkbd reduced on startup..... looking at dcop for this | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: want the main window on the screen by default or not ? | 02:37 |
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| Riddell | for minor-motor-difficulties yes | 02:41 |
| manchicken | Tonio_: Wuddup homes? | 02:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: how did the nspluginviewer patch work? | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: oki no problem with the non-minimized thing then :) | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just tested, works perfectly :) | 02:43 |
| Riddell | groovy | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll wait a little bit for upload as I'm also patching knetaccess in kdebase to fix bug 133957 | 02:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 133957 in dolphin "Dolphin uses fish: instead of sftp: for "SSH" connections" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133957 | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that requires both kdelibs and kdebase to be patched, but as this is a mean of security, I think we should do it | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: hey ;) what is "wuddup" ? | 02:45 |
| manchicken | Tonio_: That's manchicken for "what's up?" | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: hehe oki ;) well that's fine, I'm at work today, so not very available, but that's okay :) | 02:46 |
| manchicken | I've formed my own language, and it's more precise than francais :P | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll probably upload both kdelibs and kdebase toonight | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: si tu le dis... :) | 02:46 |
| manchicken | We should all speak manchicken for diplomacy world-wide. | 02:46 |
| nixternal | manchicken: you didn't form your own language, you just copied ebonics there | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: and that's "franais", not "francais" | 02:46 |
| manchicken | nixternal: No, ebonics is wuzzup | 02:46 |
| nixternal | actually, that is more ebonics with a little Elmer Fudd thrown in | 02:47 |
| manchicken | Tonio_: Yes, but I don't have that key on my keyboard :) | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: the "" is important, otherwise we would pronouce this franKais | 02:47 |
| nixternal | hehe | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: haha, I know ;) | 02:47 |
| manchicken | Tonio_: Yeah, I know, circumflex is very important. I just lack the accent keys on my keyboard. | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: that's why azerty keyboards are supperior to qwerty, you can type more letter with them | 02:47 |
| nixternal | manchicken: cheat like I do, go into kword and insert the char and then c/p it into irc...but if you are using konvi, then you can just insert the char with it | 02:47 |
| manchicken | Tonio_:I would think a more concise language would have fewer characters :P | 02:48 |
| manchicken | nixternal: There is kcharpicker or something like that. | 02:48 |
| manchicken | nixternal: That works better, no loading up the office libs. | 02:48 |
| nosrednaekim | manchicken: try hawaiian, alphabet of 15 characters. | 02:48 |
| nixternal | ya, like "lol", "wtf", "brb", "bff" :) | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ouch, it just looks like kdelibs ftbfs due to cups..... very annoying... | 02:48 |
| manchicken | nosrednaekim: And all the pineapple you can eat. | 02:48 |
| nixternal | they had a thing about those silly text/chat words on the news yesterday...I knew like 3 of them | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | /tmp/buildd/kdelibs-3.5.7/./kdeprint/cups/cupsdconf2/cups-util.c:111: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type | 02:49 |
| nixternal | mmm pineapple | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | evil........ | 02:49 |
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| nixternal | don't forget to update the "kubuntuify the about" for Konqi..it needs to point to the correct help page | 02:50 |
| manchicken | Yeah, using powersaved seems to work rather well for power management. | 02:50 |
| nosrednaekim | manchicken: yeah.. it does. | 02:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: oh, there's a patch for that | 02:51 |
| manchicken | I've been using the default color scheme and theme for a while now. | 02:51 |
| manchicken | It's kinda nice. | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah ? | 02:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I expect debian have it in their svn | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looking | 02:52 |
| Riddell | if not, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148021 | 02:52 |
| ubotu | KDE bug 148021 in general "kdelibs: build fails against cups-1.3" [Normal,New] | 02:52 |
| manchicken | I have a feeling that the "we want xgl by default" people will be sorely disappointed though. | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay I'll add the patch and also test the fish/sftp patch I've written | 02:52 |
| manchicken | Neither Beryl or compiz are working very well on this machine. | 02:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: did you get my message on kdesdk ? | 02:52 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: fish/sftp patch? | 02:52 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: don't think so | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: see bug 133957 | 02:53 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: you can upload it to lpia, it works with no changes. | 02:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 133957 in dolphin "Dolphin uses fish: instead of sftp: for "SSH" connections" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133957 | 02:53 |
| nixternal | some try this: from the main Konqi window where there is the doco link, trash link/icon and such, click on applications, and then click on "System Settings"...do you get an error? | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not a dolphin issue in fact, pure kdebase/kdelibs problem | 02:53 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: if it just needs compiled you need to tell infinity | 02:53 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: right, I will. | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: using fish is pretty evil compared to sftp btw | 02:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: kdewebdev is there aswell, so the whole kde suite should be done now. | 02:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: it's messy, but fish works in places where sftp doesn't I believe | 02:54 |
| nixternal | nevermind that...seems I had a rogue .desktop file | 02:54 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: great | 02:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: donno if there's anything else that needs to be done on lpia? | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: fish doesn't need sftp to work, as it uses standard ssh connection to perform the tasks | 02:55 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: kde-wise I mean. | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: usefull indeed, but terribly slow aswell | 02:55 |
| _StefanS_ | nixternal: works for me. | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but indeed, fish works watever you do on the server part, even if you disable sftp and scp | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: btw what to do with the bug ? I'm not sure there are security issues as this also uses ssl, it is just as secured as ssh can be | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we can fix or reject, you decide :) | 02:57 |
| nixternal | at least fix the help:/ one :) | 02:58 |
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| Tonio_ | nixternal: hardly reproduceable here | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: unless you use dolphin to browse html pages containing help:/ links | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: have an example ? | 03:01 |
| nixternal | help:/kubuntu/index | 03:02 |
| nixternal | help:/amarok | 03:02 |
| nixternal | anything like that, will come up with a malformed error | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: yeah, but that's when you type the url in dolphin manually right ? | 03:02 |
| nixternal | dolphin knows what to do when you feed it an html page, it opens up konqi | 03:03 |
| nixternal | Tonio_: correct | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | if yes, I don't consider this a bug, but a non-existing feature, which is different | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: we're in feature freeze :) | 03:03 |
| nixternal | unfreeze it :p | 03:03 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I'd reject, although I'm not necessarily against switching to sftp by default if that's easy to do | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not that hard, but requires patch for kdebase and kdelibs with an s/fish/sftp on netaccess/knetaccess | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: probably a bit too much to fix such a little thing that late in the dev cycle.... | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll probably just reject it | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | or discard to gutsy+1 | 03:04 |
| nixternal | Tonio_: reject my help:/ one while you are at it | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: yup :) | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: I'll change to whishlist instead or rejecting | 03:05 |
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| Tonio_ | nixternal: done | 03:11 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: since the last version, I cant configure my mouse anymore. It complains about it cant create the input device | 03:14 |
| nihui | Riddell: Tonio_: Why doesn't the gtalk in kopete have "voice call" function? | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hu ? | 03:17 |
| nihui | may i have the reason please? | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | nihui: we don't build it with libjingle I guess.... | 03:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I can see my bt mouse, but clicking the "setup" button yields a dialog with the message that It can create the inpu tdevice | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: need to test that toonight, no bt mouse here | 03:18 |
| _StefanS_ | oka | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: what is the malone status for "rejected" now ? is that "won't fix" or "invalid" ? | 03:18 |
| nihui | Tonio_: but why don't you built it with that? i think the "voice call" is really great~ | 03:19 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: won't fix and invalid | 03:20 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: both ? oki | 03:20 |
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| Tonio_ | nihui: because the lib is in universe, and we try not to get too much lib in main | 03:20 |
| Tonio_ | nihui: btw a "main" package cannot build-depend on a universe one | 03:22 |
| Tonio_ | nihui: too late in the gutsy dev cycle to get that done, but we may consider this for gutsy+1 then | 03:22 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: both | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | nihui: ahh, i know the answer to this. | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ah ? :) | 03:23 |
| nihui | Hobbsee: ? | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | nihui: also the voice support in kopete isn't really stable atm | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | nihui: because gtalk only works with a particular version of libjingle, and we have a later version in ubuntu, which other things depend on. | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | tha'ts the main reason that i havent put it in. | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | and getting an obsolete vesrion of a library in main....even the thought of that is painful. | 03:24 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: nihui wonders why other distribution supports :) | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: interesting | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: so the libjingle version we have is incompatible with gtalk ? | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: because it's not commercial support, and they dont care about having multiple libraries. | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: it was when i last checked (when it was first announced), yes | 03:25 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: okay | 03:25 |
| manchicken | Anybody ever got a webcam working in kubuntu before? | 03:25 |
| Tonio_ | nihui: also according to kopete devs, they will not have a nice and stable gtalk support before kde4/phonon | 03:26 |
| freeflying | manchicken: webcam is not spcific to kubuntu | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: looks like phonon is meant to support jingle, I didn't knew that | 03:26 |
| manchicken | freeflying: This I know. But system76 claims this guy works under gnome, and I'm having a hard time configuring it in kubuntu. | 03:26 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: how dose phonon support jingle? | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: no idea that was on the blog of a kopete dev | 03:27 |
| manchicken | Hmm... | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: he was explaining that the jingle support within libjingle is a bit crackfull, and that this would change with kde4/phonon | 03:27 |
| freeflying | manchicken: borrow me one, I will configure it for you :) | 03:28 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: sounds nice | 03:28 |
| freeflying | nihui: so, are you ok for the reason why dosen;t kubuntu support gtalk's vocie now? | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: neat! | 03:29 |
| manchicken | heh | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: "Implement a new Jingle media engine based on Phonon" at google SOC 2006 | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: hopefully that'll work :) | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: http://ts2.altervista.org/soc/ | 03:30 |
| manchicken | freeflying: I just spent a lot of time getting my new lappy. Anybody who wants it is welcome to it if they're willing to pry it from my cold dead hands. | 03:30 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: I really hope we will have a usablity kde4.0 next year :) | 03:30 |
| manchicken | heh | 03:30 |
| nihui | freeflying: ^^:) | 03:30 |
| manchicken | System76 did a great job on this machine though. | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | no idea if that's been done actually...... just it was planned | 03:30 |
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| manchicken | Heh, KDE has a barbie camera listed in their camera configuration setting. | 03:31 |
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| allee | Tonio_: I can confirm _StefanS_ bt mouse problem. Same here. | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | allee: argh.... | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | allee: okay I'll try with the latest svn sync.... | 03:34 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: btw, will you have a look on kdm's login box font configure, seems it dosen't use Sans | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: ah ? send me a mail about that, I'll look toonight :) | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: no time right now | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: I was pretty sure it was using Sans, just not the same size.... | 03:36 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: really? but it can not pick up Chinese fonts here | 03:36 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: seems like kbt is pretty much work in progress.. cant you verify a good revision with the devs instead of trial and error? | 03:36 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: so it will has the same issue to Japanese and Korean | 03:37 |
| manchicken | Ooh, there's an SD reader on this thing too. Don't know if it works though. | 03:38 |
| freeflying | manchicken: SD reader works fine | 03:39 |
| manchicken | freeflying: In system76? | 03:41 |
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| manchicken | I'm not sure how to get it working. Submitted an email to their support guy. | 03:41 |
| freeflying | manchicken: you'd better join #kubuntu | 03:41 |
| manchicken | freeflying: I could, but I'd rather give system76's support a whirl. | 03:42 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: isnt it just a standard builtin usb device, like any other laptop? | 03:42 |
| manchicken | _StefanS_: Seems like it. | 03:42 |
| manchicken | freeflying: It's not really important to me right now. I don't really have a use for the webcam. | 03:43 |
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| Tonio__ | allee, _StefanS_: there was fixes on the input thing on svn, currently building the package | 03:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: good | 03:45 |
| manchicken | There we go, I've now reviews this darter on my blog. I need to put some photos up. | 03:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: lets hope nothing else broken :/ | 03:45 |
| _StefanS_ | is broken | 03:46 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: yeah :/ | 03:46 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: it had a 12.1 screen, right? | 03:46 |
| manchicken | Did we ever get the basket problem sorted out? | 03:46 |
| manchicken | _StefanS_: yes. | 03:46 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: i have a spare 2x2inch led display from an old radio in case you want to go with a larger resolution external monitor ... haha | 03:47 |
| manchicken | heh | 03:47 |
| manchicken | I've got 1280x800 IIRC | 03:48 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm ok | 03:48 |
| _StefanS_ | but its probably very light | 03:48 |
| _StefanS_ | weight i mean | 03:49 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: I ordered that 24" lcd.. i bought a benq fp241w, so lets hope its worth the money | 03:50 |
| Jucato | yay!! | 03:52 |
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| manchicken | _StefanS_: If I wanted a big display I would have done something like that. I just want something tiny that will help me hack and do work.' | 03:53 |
| Riddell | anyone feel like packaging this? I've had a request http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Tasty+Menu?content=41866 | 03:56 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: yep, its all about what you need. | 03:58 |
| === apokryphos shivers | ||
| manchicken | _StefanS_: Yup. Did you read my review? | 03:59 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: i just read that you had bought it over a gateway/dell kinda thing | 03:59 |
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| apokryphos | Jucato: you like it? :o | 04:00 |
| manchicken | _StefanS_: I just posted a bit of a review. | 04:00 |
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| _StefanS_ | manchicken: blog url? | 04:00 |
| manchicken | apokryphos: I'd like to see it in action, but I don't like it either. | 04:00 |
| === manchicken .com | ||
| Jucato | apokryphos: let's just say that after trying all 3 kmenu alternatives, I have a better appreciation of your kickoff now :P | 04:00 |
| apokryphos | =) | 04:01 |
| manchicken | Is kickoff in repos? I've never tried it. | 04:01 |
| _StefanS_ | well i think all of them just make you work.... slower. | 04:01 |
| apokryphos | manchicken: not afaik though there are some packages of it on kde-apps | 04:01 |
| Jucato | nope. never managed to got it packaged. I think Tonio was interested in doing that but sort of gave up... | 04:01 |
| manchicken | Ah. | 04:01 |
| apokryphos | _StefanS_: kickoff makes things quite a bit faster I find. Use your favourites instead of trawling through the menu, or use the search to get inline search results | 04:02 |
| Riddell | I did compile kickoff once, it segfaulted on startup | 04:02 |
| Riddell | if someone wants to patch our kdebase for it that's fine, but it would have to not be default and have suse branding removed | 04:02 |
| _StefanS_ | apokryphos: so you could just use Quick launcher. | 04:02 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: depends on how many stuff you put into it. don't wanna crowd your panel either... | 04:03 |
| _StefanS_ | apokryphos: well its just personall preference | 04:03 |
| apokryphos | _StefanS_: usability studies on it look quite promising though :) | 04:03 |
| _StefanS_ | more alternatives the better. | 04:03 |
| Jucato | yeah. you choose the tool that fits your workflow/needs. not the other way around | 04:03 |
| _StefanS_ | i know | 04:03 |
| apokryphos | I don't really know about packaging but it's worth asking in #opensuse-kde if there are any specific issues (they're very willing to help) | 04:04 |
| apokryphos | sabayon and pclinuxos have it packaged, but I think the fedora guys needed a couple of pointers | 04:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio__: so hows the compile going? | 04:04 |
| Jucato | apokryphos: I read most of the related research literature on that. iirc kickoff wasn't able to completely address all the usability issues. can't be specific.. that was months ago.. | 04:05 |
| Jucato | anyway... | 04:05 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: what about http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kickoff-qt+on++Kubuntu+7.04?content=55864 ? | 04:06 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: uploading to my repo :) | 04:06 |
| apokryphos | judging by the general quality of random rpms on appsy it's probably terrible, but ;) | 04:06 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: I don't see any source | 04:07 |
| Tonio__ | _StefanS_: you can test | 04:08 |
| apokryphos | hrm, yeah. I'll ask | 04:08 |
| Tonio__ | allee: you can test too | 04:09 |
| allee | Tonio_: what? /me reads back | 04:11 |
| Tonio_ | allee: you will find the bluetooth packages on my repo | 04:11 |
| Tonio_ | allee: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org | 04:11 |
| allee | Tonio_: k thx | 04:12 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: do it later. gotta run. kids. | 04:27 |
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| allee | Tonio_: no success with BT mighty mouse. Still: 'failed to create input device for 'mighty mouse' | 05:06 |
| allee | Tonio_: dittoo for a w800i that happens to be around here somewhere ;) | 05:07 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: hum, that's pretty annoying :) | 05:09 |
| bddebian | Heya | 05:10 |
| allee | Tonio_: yes, no success with Microsoft BT mouse too :( | 05:12 |
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| allee | Tonio_: hidd --search connects to the two mouses (with pin request for mighty mouse as expected) | 05:25 |
| Tonio_ | allee: sucks :( | 05:25 |
| allee | Tonio_: this uncovered another bug: paird hid are not listed by bkt input device dialog. 2 are listed with hidd --show. but dialog is empty | 05:26 |
| Tonio_ | allee: :'( | 05:28 |
| allee | Tonio_: I'll ask upstream | 05:28 |
| Tonio_ | k | 05:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I was thinking about the different kds profiles | 05:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if you change /etc/kderc to use another profile, you miss the all settings in default right ? | 05:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't see how is that possible to use both a specific profile and the default one in that priority order | 05:32 |
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| allee | _StefanS_: fyi: I still had no success with 2 bt mouses (sudo hidd --search/show worked) with Tonio_ 705625 build | 05:41 |
| _StefanS_ | allee: right, I think I know something more to it.. | 05:41 |
| _StefanS_ | allee: kinputwizard: libkbluetooth: getString(CreateDevice): Method "CreateDevice" with signature "s" on interface "org.bluez.input.Manager" doesn't exist | 05:41 |
| _StefanS_ | I will debug some more later on.. | 05:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ^ | 05:42 |
| allee | Tonio_: in kdeblueooth pkging file somewhere accesible via bzr? I assume it's time to combine svn checkout and debian/... checkout | 05:47 |
| Tonio_ | allee: nope, not yet, I have to upload that to bzr | 05:49 |
| allee | Tonio_: k, If I find time I try to merge to alioth | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | allee: oki :) | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | allee: when I have time, I'll put our packaging to svn | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | s/svn/bzr | 05:51 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: it's changed to use default and other one | 06:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is that possible to use 2 profiles at the same time ?! | 06:10 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: well yes, we already use three (/etc/kde, /usr/share/k-d-s, ~/.kde/) | 06:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sure | 06:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I was wondering if it was possible to do this : | 06:12 |
| Tonio_ | ~/.kde > k-d-s/acessibility > k-d-s default > /etc/kde | 06:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I suspect no right ? | 06:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: saw that commit today in kds : jr <jr@lichts> | 06:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is that you ? | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: it is | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: clearly you never had a shell on lichts, else you'd remember that. | 06:22 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: what is lichts ? | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: his machine | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | well, probably sladen's, by the talk at UDS. | 06:22 |
| Tonio_ | ah ;) | 06:22 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: of course, that's how we use the accessibility profiles | 07:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: to make it easy to add a user to a profile, we should create system groups | 07:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's pretty easy to do, I just tested here | 07:15 |
| Tonio_ | and then you set the profile to use for each group and that's it | 07:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is there a reason we don't actually do that ? | 07:15 |
| Tonio_ | adding groups is pretty easy with a postinst in kds | 07:16 |
| Tonio_ | and then it is just a matter of patching the /etc/kde-user-profiles file | 07:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: doing that way it would be super easy to document how to add user XXX to that accessibility profile, imho | 07:21 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: no particular reason why we don't do that | 07:48 |
| allee | sebas: ping | 07:49 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay I'll pobably do that tomorrow then | 07:49 |
| Tonio_ | make accessibility easy :) | 07:49 |
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| ris | kwwii: re: new tribe kdm: please choose either blue-green or blue-purple. a mixture of the two is one of my pet hates. | 08:54 |
| Riddell | kdm is al blue (and black) | 08:56 |
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| manchicken | does anybody else have kontact crapping all over them? | 09:01 |
| coreymon77 | kwwii: isnt the term "pet peeves"? | 09:03 |
| kwwii | ris: not sure what you mean exactl | 09:04 |
| kwwii | coreymon77: yepp | 09:04 |
| ris | kwwii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe5/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kdm.png | 09:04 |
| ris | kwwii: 'frame' is blue-green | 09:05 |
| ris | kwwii: highlighted user is blue-purple | 09:05 |
| ris | kwwii: backdrop is sort of halfway between | 09:05 |
| kwwii | ris: looks like we need to apply the new colors scheme from the desktop to kdm as well | 09:06 |
| ris | kwwii: sounds lovely | 09:06 |
| kwwii | Riddell: we can fix that tomorrow | 09:06 |
| manchicken | kwwii: I've been using this default blue theme for a while now. It's kinda nice. | 09:06 |
| kwwii | manchicken: good to hear you like it | 09:06 |
| manchicken | This is the first time I've actually used it, just wanted to let you know I like it. | 09:07 |
| kwwii | :-) | 09:07 |
| manchicken | I bought this 12.1" system76 guy. | 09:07 |
| manchicken | You did the GNOME theme, too, didn't you? | 09:07 |
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| kwwii | manchicken: yepp | 09:08 |
| yuriy | manchicken: i just updated and restarted and yeah now kontact looks funky | 09:08 |
| manchicken | kwwii: That looks pretty good, too. | 09:09 |
| kwwii | man, am I good or what? :p | 09:09 |
| kwwii | time for a bath...bbl | 09:09 |
| manchicken | I had to look at the brown while I was installing kubuntu :) | 09:09 |
| yuriy | i'm getting "failed to create the input device" trying to set up my mouse with kbluetooth :-\ | 09:10 |
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| ris | kwwii: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe5/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=strigi.png - purple scrollbar, tab highlight, desktop pager highlight. other than that, pretty _damn_ nice. | 09:11 |
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| kwwii | hrm, seems like we missed the new color scheme all together | 09:17 |
| manchicken | yuriy: I keep getting kmail/kontact crashes. | 09:19 |
| yuriy | oh, not that | 09:24 |
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| manchicken | Is the basket problem still happening for you? | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | He has a basket case? | 09:39 |
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| aantipop | i thought dolphin would be the default file-manager in gutsy ?? | 09:43 |
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| manchicken | aantipop: That's a KDE4 thing, not a gutsy thing. | 10:05 |
| DaSkreech | So Innoculated Iguana? | 10:06 |
| manchicken | Man, kmail is sucking big time. | 10:07 |
| manchicken | Keeps crashing. | 10:07 |
| danimo | any chance for opensync 0.30 to get into kubuntu? | 10:08 |
| aantipop | manchicken: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe3/Kubuntu#head-e8fe28fe1a575f398b528f8d9fa8f313977c2a66 | 10:10 |
| Riddell | manchicken: there should be a new kontact in today | 10:11 |
| Riddell | manchicken: have you tried that? | 10:11 |
| Riddell | danimo: have you? | 10:11 |
| danimo | Riddell: my laptop is updating as we speak | 10:11 |
| allee | danimo: try apt-cache rdepends libopensync0 Is all depending software ready for 0.30? | 10:11 |
| allee | danimo: or is it ABI backwards compatible? | 10:12 |
| danimo | allee: how do I know? :) | 10:12 |
| danimo | should be | 10:12 |
| danimo | allee: but kitchensync from KDE 4 requires it | 10:12 |
| danimo | allee: so one should just give it a try | 10:12 |
| danimo | just checking back | 10:13 |
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| danimo | allee: ok, 0.30 is not source compatible with 0.20 | 10:17 |
| danimo | allee: so it needs an extra package I guess | 10:17 |
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| doc_ | hi there | 10:18 |
| manchicken | Riddell: That's the one I'm on. | 10:20 |
| danimo | allee: would you take care ? :) | 10:20 |
| Riddell | danimo: I'll ask the maintainer | 10:21 |
| Riddell | manchicken: can you get a backtrace? | 10:21 |
| manchicken | I'll see what I can do. | 10:21 |
| Riddell | manchicken: or do you have basket installed? | 10:21 |
| manchicken | I do. | 10:21 |
| manchicken | I don't think this one is basket-related. | 10:21 |
| sahin_w | manchicken: Not so long time ago, I've had problem with kmail too (in feisty). | 10:21 |
| manchicken | It's crashing even though I've got basket running separately. | 10:21 |
| sahin_w | manchicken: The problem caused by a corrupt mail folder. | 10:22 |
| sahin_w | In my case I created a copy about my mails | 10:22 |
| sahin_w | So I move these mails to another location and reimport them. | 10:22 |
| manchicken | Riddell: I'm updating kdelibs and kdelibs4, so we'll see if that'll help. | 10:22 |
| manchicken | I'm skeptical. | 10:22 |
| Riddell | manchicken: I suspect it is, try uninstalling basket | 10:22 |
| manchicken | Righto. | 10:22 |
| sahin_w | That did the trick for me. | 10:22 |
| sahin_w | Just an idea. | 10:23 |
| danimo | Riddell: works like a charm :) | 10:23 |
| manchicken | I've also got a weird problem with katapult. I'll start typing and it'll drop off. I think it's a focus thing. | 10:23 |
| Riddell | danimo: great | 10:24 |
| danimo | Riddell: and its got nice outlook-style features | 10:24 |
| danimo | like favourite folders | 10:24 |
| manchicken | Riddell: I don't really care for this "enterprise" branch much. | 10:25 |
| Riddell | manchicken: why not? | 10:25 |
| manchicken | It seems very unstable. | 10:25 |
| Riddell | danimo: that only seems useful if you have many many folders | 10:25 |
| manchicken | And I'm not happy to give up basket. I use that program all the time. | 10:25 |
| danimo | Riddell: well, I do | 10:25 |
| Riddell | manchicken: do you use it integrated with kontact? | 10:25 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Yup. I prefer it that way. | 10:25 |
| DaSkreech | Is basket maintained/ | 10:25 |
| danimo | manchicken: you only have to give up integration, which is a stupid idea anyway | 10:25 |
| DaSkreech | I know they have a team I havne't looked to see if htey are doing planning or code commits | 10:26 |
| manchicken | danimo: I disagree. I'd rather give up knotes and keep basket. | 10:26 |
| Riddell | danimo: I believe it has a new maintainer (or so I heard) | 10:26 |
| danimo | Riddell: I think simly rebuilding basket against current pim would help | 10:26 |
| danimo | manchicken: sure, but basket is something where you drag things in | 10:26 |
| danimo | so it's not helpful to hide it inside kontact imho | 10:26 |
| danimo | esp. since it has no functional integration otherwise | 10:26 |
| Riddell | manchicken: able to try a recompile of basket? | 10:26 |
| manchicken | danimo: It's also where you can create hierarchical trees of notes. | 10:27 |
| DaSkreech | danimo: Sorry why is integration stupid? | 10:27 |
| manchicken | danimo: I use it for quick notes and stuff like that. | 10:28 |
| manchicken | Riddell: I could try one. Do you have a src-deb? | 10:28 |
| Riddell | apt-get source ? | 10:29 |
| manchicken | Sure.... but isn't that the same code as the binary? | 10:30 |
| danimo | DaSkreech: because its primary semantics is to drag stuff in from everywhere | 10:30 |
| danimo | DaSkreech: having kontact as a second window manager for the sake of nothing makes no sense | 10:31 |
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| Riddell | manchicken: yes | 10:31 |
| Riddell | manchicken: < danimo> Riddell: I think simly rebuilding basket against current pim would help | 10:32 |
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| danimo | the crash looks a lot like the interface changed sligtly for some reason | 10:32 |
| danimo | that shouldn't happen, but somehow it did, or the compiler was upgraded and that upgrade had glitches, no idea... | 10:33 |
| manchicken | Riddell: So is integration gone for good then? That would kinda suck. | 10:33 |
| danimo | manchicken: no its not, its just broken :) | 10:34 |
| danimo | manchicken: that's why you were asked to recompile the source package locally | 10:34 |
| manchicken | Okay, good :) | 10:35 |
| manchicken | I understand some folks don't find it useful, but this program is the only thing that keeps stuff organized in my head. | 10:36 |
| sahin_w | manchicken: I've got good news for you. | 10:47 |
| sahin_w | manchicken: I've rebuilt the basket againt the kdepim enetrprise branch. | 10:47 |
| sahin_w | manchicken: The crash went away. | 10:47 |
| sahin_w | manchicken: Now I'm able to start up kontact without any crash. | 10:48 |
| sahin_w | manchicken: And basket is integrated. As you wish. | 10:48 |
| sahin_w | manchicken: Just try it yourslef. | 10:49 |
| Riddell | sahin_w: excellent | 10:50 |
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| sahin_w | Riddell: So I think it's time to rebuild basket and upload the binary package to the gutsy repo. | 10:51 |
| sahin_w | I'm a big fun of basket too. | 10:51 |
| sahin_w | I hold my engineering notes inside basket. | 10:52 |
| sahin_w | And phone numbers too in case I would like to buy a pizza. ;-) | 10:53 |
| sahin_w | Riddell: Who will create a rebuilded basket package and who will upload it? | 10:56 |
| sahin_w | Riddell: Or it's time to create a launchpad entry? | 10:56 |
| Riddell | sahin_w: I'm just doing so | 10:56 |
| allee | damino: I'm currently busy with blueooth. I don't know when I can find time | 10:57 |
| sahin_w | Riddell: Ok, thanks! | 10:57 |
| allee | Riddell: what do you think is the priority of opensync 0.30 is for gusty? | 10:58 |
| sahin_w | Riddell: In this case I won't open a lauchpad entry. Because you take care. And basket is in good hands! ;-) | 10:58 |
| Riddell | allee: it's being discussed on #u-d | 10:59 |
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| manchicken | Holy goodness, dude was right. | 12:25 |
| manchicken | Rebuilding it gets basket working just fine. | 12:25 |
| manchicken | That's fantastic. | 12:26 |
| manchicken | And now Adept is gonna cry about me running a from-source deb. | 12:27 |
| manchicken | Okay, I'm gonna boogy now. I probably won't be on again for a few days. | 12:27 |
| manchicken | Later. | 12:27 |
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