[12:36] <BluesKaj> ok, obviously too many cooks here ... BBL
[12:36] <DaleksUnited> BluesKaj: ah, thanks
[12:36] <ubuntu_> mkdir Checkit && sudo mount /dev/devicename Checkit -o umask=0022
[12:36] <rignes> Do any of you guys know what runs during start up in Kubuntu that checks for updates?  I'm wondering exactly what the executable is that puts the green ball in the bottom by the clock.
[12:37] <ubuntu_> rignes: adept_updater I'll warrant
[12:37] <smithy> hi hi
[12:38] <smithy> je tu nejaky slovak alebo cech???
[12:38] <BluesKaj> DaleksUnited, be sure not have the # sign in front of any of those copied lines
[12:38] <rignes> Thanks, I'll check.  The reason I ask is because this system connect via wireless and I have to type in my kwallet password before it connects.  The check is gone by the time I get the password in. :P
[12:38] <ubuntu_> smithy: What language?
[12:39] <ubuntu_> DaleksUnited: where device name is the partition of your hard drive
[12:39] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: probably slovakian
[12:39] <ubuntu_> coreymon77: what's the code for that?
[12:39] <ubuntu_> sl? sk?
[12:40] <U238Willy> [18:39:42]  <+U238Willy> .sk
[12:40] <U238Willy> [18:39:43]  <%Xut> The top level domain .sk represents Slovakia.
[12:40] <ubuntu_> !sk
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <jose> hola
[12:40] <ubuntu_> drat :)
[12:40] <DaleksUnited> ubuntu_: hdd1 I think
[12:40] <ubuntu_> mkdir Checkit && sudo mount /dev/hdd1 Checkit -o umask=0022
[12:40] <ubuntu_> what's close to slovak ?
[12:40] <DaleksUnited> czech republic
[12:40] <U238Willy> Czech?
[12:40] <U238Willy> hahahahaha
[12:41] <rignes> ubuntu_: Hmm, adept_updater just opens the adept package manager.  I guess a better question is, how can I initiate a check for updated packages manually?
[12:41] <ubuntu_> Yeah I was thinking that too but I meant the code :)
[12:41] <ubuntu_> rignes: check the flags you can send it
[12:41] <U238Willy> :P
[12:41] <rignes> ubuntu_: I already did.  Nothing looked right.
[12:42] <rignes> ubuntu_: Of course, I could use --help-all and then check that. :P
[12:42] <theverant> anyone know why edge+edge button combos aren't working for compiz fusion in KDE?
[12:43] <DaleksUnited> ubuntu_: thanks for all your help
[12:43] <ubuntu_> DaleksUnited: that works ?
[12:44] <rignes> ubuntu_: Still nothing sounds right. :/  I've googled but I either am searching the wrong phrase or it's not to be found...probably searching wrong.
[12:44] <theverant> or rather, does anyone have them working?
[12:44] <ubuntu_> nixternal: poke :)
[12:45] <DaleksUnited> ubuntu_ - yeah
[12:45] <ubuntu_> DaleksUnited: ok sweet you have more work to do if you want the drive to automount on startup
[12:45] <ubuntu_> manchicken: ping
[12:46] <rignes> Well, I'll have to look later...dinner time. :P  Thanks.
[12:46] <ubuntu_> rignes: stay online
[12:46] <ubuntu_> I'll shout you when I get the answer
[12:46] <DaleksUnited> ubuntu_ - a challenge for tomorrow :P
[12:47] <Ardin> oh oh how do you shout someone?
[12:47] <ubuntu_> !tab
[12:47] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:47] <Ardin> is that what you mean by shout?
[12:48] <ubuntu_> yes
[12:48] <manchicken> ubuntu_: pong
[12:48] <ubuntu_> it highlights what I say so when he scrolls up it's easy to pick out the answer
[12:48] <manchicken> ubuntu_: You may want to select a more useful nick.
[12:48] <ubuntu_> manchicken: what makes the green orb when adept is doing a update check?
[12:49] <ubuntu_> manchicken: I'm going home in 10 minutes
[12:49] <ubuntu_> Packing up the office now
[12:49] <manchicken> adept_notifier
[12:49] <ubuntu_> notifer. Duh!
[12:49] <ubuntu_> thanks :)
[12:49] <ubuntu_> rignes: it's adept_notifier
[12:49] <ubuntu_> manchicken: how does it work? it does a diff of the servers and your local cache?
[12:51] <manchicken> Well the cache updates from the server and keeps track of whether or not there's a new candidate version.
[12:52] <ubuntu_> manchicken: but when you open adept_updater it has to pull from the server again. Why doesn't it use the local cache if it was updated?
[12:53] <ubuntu_> Or is that just insurance?
[12:53] <matthewgialich> hey can someone help me, i need to transpher some files to an external drive, but it says that i do not have access, how do i do it
[12:55] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: What file system?
[12:55] <level1> Hi, according to system guard, Xorg is taking up no less than 1.1 GB of my precious ram.  How can I figure out whats going on?  I've closed most of the windows on my desktop
[12:56] <manchicken> ubuntu_: It does as far as I know.  But it periodically triggers an update of the cache from the server.
[12:56] <ubuntu_> level1: No idea but I've almost never found that to be the problem in terms of system lagging
[12:56] <ubuntu_> I just leave it alone and it sorts itself out
[12:56] <level1> ubuntu_: yes, but I'd like that ram back! :)
[12:57] <ubuntu_> level1: simple. don't run X
[12:57] <level1> ubuntu_: yeah, I'll just irc on the command line... haha
[12:57] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: im using ubuntu, i ran it from a cd, so im trying to save the data off the cd beacuse windows became corrupt,  so i need to back it off to external
[12:58] <ubuntu_> level1: irssi
[12:58] <manchicken> level1: What driver are you running?
[12:58] <ubuntu_> it's actually a very very good IRC lcient
[12:58] <level1> manchicken: nvidia proprietary 9577
[12:58] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: Yeah I'm asking what file system is on the external. What is it formatted as?
[12:58] <level1> manchicken: I had to manually install it, because the ubuntu installer didn't work for me (TM)
[12:59] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: ntsf
[01:00] <ubuntu_> !ntfs
[01:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:00] <ubuntu_> !ntfs-3g | matthewgialich
[01:00] <ubotu> matthewgialich: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:00] <W1ZrD> How can I give full permissions to ALL files under /home/username/folder ?
[01:01] <ubuntu_> W1ZrD: Woooah there. what's this for?
[01:01] <level1> W1ZrD: thats not always a good idea, but basically, chmod 777 /home/you/folder/*
[01:01] <ubuntu_> level1: -R
[01:01] <W1ZrD> ubuntu_, some stupid .sh files that won't run :s
[01:01] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: ty
[01:01] <level1> right
[01:01] <ubuntu_> W1ZrD: sh name of file
[01:02] <ubuntu_> so sh ~/bin/stubborn.sh
[01:02] <level1> W1ZrD: chmod -R 777 /home/you/folder/*
[01:02] <W1ZrD> ubuntu_, have tried but they give permission denied, even though they have 775
[01:02] <ubuntu_> W1ZrD: What do the scripts do?
[01:02] <ubuntu_> it's likely it's a command inside the script
[01:03] <W1ZrD> ubuntu_, supposed to make image thumbnails through imageMagick
[01:04] <ubuntu_> W1ZrD: how are you running the script?
[01:04] <kgx> anyone ever got "System I/O error" in cyrus?
[01:05] <neptunepink> Is it possible to put linux on a linksys router?
[01:05] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: i dont get it it isnt working? what do i type beacuse im not understanding this
[01:05] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: where are you?
[01:06] <W1ZrD> sh ./tbn_imgmGk1.2.1.run
[01:07] <scorpking> neptunepink: http://openwrt.org
[01:07] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: i dont know how to install it im not a linux user how do i install ntsf-configuer?
[01:07] <neptunepink> scorpking: yayo!
[01:07] <scorpking> neptunepink: :-)
[01:08] <neptunepink> scorpking: But the question is, if I hose it, can I revert it back to the original firmware with minimal fuss?
[01:08] <tripp> !it
[01:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:08] <scorpking> neptunepink: not sure how to make a backup. give me one sec and i'll check what model i use.
[01:09] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: do you have universe enabled?
[01:09] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: i dont knw
[01:09] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: are you on a kubuntu live Cd?
[01:10] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_:  yes will a ubuntu live cd, no one in ubuntu would help me
[01:10] <leonardo> hello??
[01:10] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: ha ha :) of course
[01:11] <scorpking> neptunepink: WRT54GL
[01:11] <neptunepink> scorpking: WRT54G; but I'm not sure whta version.... hmmm....
[01:11] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: open synaptic and I think under tools look for repositories
[01:11] <scorpking> neptunepink: let me check...
[01:13] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_:  so serch for repositories?
[01:13] <scorpking> neptunepink: WRT54GL_4.30.5_US_code.bin is the image i have.
[01:13] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: no the menus at the top file edit view tools
[01:13] <ubuntu_> I think it's tools :)
[01:14] <neptunepink> scorpking: Is that the linux, or is that the factory install?
[01:14] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: ok i got to that part
[01:14] <scorpking> neptunepink: got it from openwrt.org. don't have factory image
[01:14] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: ok do you have a bunch of checkboxes?
[01:15] <neptunepink> scorpking: I think you can get it from cysco's website or something
[01:15] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: it says download form the internet, then there are 5 chrck boxes
[01:15] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_:  and also a few tabs at the top
[01:15] <neptunepink> scorpking: But my version isn't fully supported
[01:15] <ubuntu_> right is there a checkbox that says Universe? Make sure it's checked and close the dalog
[01:15] <ubuntu_> dialog
[01:15] <scorpking> neptunepink: which one is that?
[01:16] <tripp> !it
[01:16] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:16] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: ok checked it and closed it
[01:16] <ubuntu_> click ... relaod?
[01:16] <ubuntu_> reload?
[01:16] <ubuntu_> refresh
[01:17] <ubuntu_> that thing to fetch updates :)
[01:17] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: i dont see a reload buttion there is a revert buttion and a close button
[01:18] <ubuntu_> mathewgialich: on the dialog? or the main synaptic window?
[01:18] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: i dont see it were should it be?
[01:19] <ubuntu_> main synaptic window there is a button to update
[01:20] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: k it said i could not download them
[01:20] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: im guessing i have to be on the internet to do this, it is going to be on the cd?
[01:20] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: umm ok. I'm assuming you are on the internet :)
[01:21] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: no im just trying to get his data off his comuter for him, it dosent have a wifi card in it
[01:21] <matthewgialich> is there anotherwy i can do this
[01:21] <ubuntu_> ah you aren't. no you have to be on the net.  I guess if you want you can pull them down on the current machine and move them across
[01:21] <ubuntu_> USB drive or such
[01:21] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: im jsut trying ot move all his data to a usb drive, and it says i dont have permission
[01:22] <BioVorE> if they have serial ports.. you could ways kermit or zmodem :-P
[01:22] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: Right. Kubuntu won't write to a NTFS drive out of the box. It's a easy install to get it working
[01:22] <BioVorE> matthewgialich: probably have to do it as root
[01:22] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: but i have to be online right to get it to install
[01:23] <neptunepink> scorpking: v6
[01:23] <matthewgialich> BioVorE: how do i make myself root
[01:23] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: that's the easiest way. You can pull down the install filesand just copy them across
[01:23] <BioVorE> if your writing to NTFS root won't help..
[01:23] <ubuntu_> BioVorE: he is
[01:23] <BioVorE> yeah.. probably going to be a problem..
[01:23] <scorpking> neptunepink: not sure if that will work. check the forums first.
[01:23] <BioVorE> He running of the live CD?
[01:24] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: there is no wired way to get that box on the network?
[01:24] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: alright ill jsut try to burn it all to cds then
[01:24] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: cause then you could put up a server and pull it off across the network
[01:24] <BioVorE> ^ best solution really..  use ftp..
[01:25] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_:  i can do that jsut form booting it form a live cd?
[01:25] <ubuntu_> BioVorE: I don't think the live CD box is networked in any way or form
[01:25] <BioVorE> sure it is..
[01:25] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: you can do anything that you can do from an install as long as you have the RAM for it
[01:25] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_:  beacuse i can plug it in, i jsut got to move it downstairs
[01:25] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_:  alright ill try it
[01:25] <BioVorE> but if your copying off ntfs to like a USB drive should work..
[01:25] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: yeah please do :) you can join back here when you do
[01:25] <matthewgialich> ubuntu_: thanks for helping me, all you kubuntu guys are way nicer
[01:26] <matthewgialich> thanks every
[01:26] <BioVorE> (USB Drive formated in FAT)
[01:26] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: kubuntu is cooler too but shhhhh
[01:26] <BioVorE> hehe
[01:26] <matthewgialich> lol
[01:26] <matthewgialich> thanks guys ill let you knwo how it went
[01:26] <ubuntu_> can't let everyone know
[01:26] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: When you get on the net downstairs
[01:26] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: Click applications -> add/remove -> search for Xchat
[01:27] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: you can join back here and we will help more
[01:27] <ubuntu_>  I have to go home though
[01:27] <BioVorE> konversation is installed on kubuntu live cd by default :-)
[01:27] <ubuntu_> If I connect back at home (h8 my ISP) I'll help again
[01:27] <ubuntu_> BioVorE: I just said it's cooler i think he gets the point
[01:27] <ubuntu_> alt+space ftw!
[01:28] <BioVorE> yeah katapule is kinda cool.. stolen from mac though..
[01:28] <ubuntu_> BioVorE: Shhhhhhhhhhhh >_<
[01:28] <ubuntu_> respect mah authoratai!!!
[01:30] <ubuntu_> matthewgialich: if you have some spare space on your computer consider a Linux demo. It's free :)
[01:30] <kgx> does anyone know how i can convert emails in a cyrus folder to mbox format?
[01:32] <scorpking> cheers ppl
[01:36] <dewitt> i need to know how to fix adept. will not update
[01:36] <ubuntu_> dewitt: connect to the internet :)
[01:36] <dewitt> ok
[01:37] <seanpcrowe|> hey peeps =)
[01:38] <seanpcrowe|> http://rafb.net/p/itb6sY47.html <---- could someone have a quick look at that output from mplayer and see if the reconise the problem???
[01:38] <seanpcrowe|> i am stumped...
[01:38] <seanpcrowe|> cant play anything 720p or above :s
[01:40] <BioVorE> seanpcrowe|: 1080i is 1920x1080 resolution..  But other then that it should work..
[01:40] <BioVorE> seanpcrowe|: mplayer plays 1080i and 1080p stuff here just fine..
[01:41] <Arwen> seanpcrowe|, do "xvinfo"
[01:41] <Arwen> maybe your maximum overlay size is just too low
[01:41] <BioVorE> ^ that is it..
[01:42] <BioVorE> no hardware scaling.. have to force software.. and that will eat CPU like crazzy..
[01:42] <seanpcrowe|> Arwen, http://rafb.net/p/FjOOxR21.html <----- xvinfo
[01:43] <Arwen>     maximum XvImage size: 1920 x 1088
[01:43] <Arwen> hmm, looks like it's a different issue
[01:43] <BioVorE> rgr
[01:43] <seanpcrowe|> yeah... i am trying to play a 1280x720 video
[01:44] <Arwen> BioVorE, software scaling doesn't actually eat that much CPU
[01:44] <Arwen> maybe 10-20% of a Precott
[01:44] <Arwen> Prescott
[01:44] <GoodHabit> Hello. I need help, I need to move my os to other partition. Is it realiseble?
[01:45] <seanpcrowe|> i have to use 915resolution to get kubuntu to reconise my GFX can do 1280x800 (native res on my lappy)
[01:45] <BioVorE> seanpcrowe|: try changing the video out to gl
[01:45] <seanpcrowe|> could this be related?
[01:45] <BioVorE> mplayer -vo gl
[01:45] <Arwen> GoodHabit, yes.
[01:45] <GoodHabit> Arwen: How i can do it?
[01:45] <Arwen> you'll have to re-install grub, but it works for *nix
[01:45] <Arwen> seanpcrowe|, hardly
[01:45] <Arwen> try gl
[01:45] <BioVorE> seanpcrowe|: most defently yes..
[01:45] <seanpcrowe|> lol
[01:45] <Arwen> GoodHabit, boot a live CD. Mount OS partition as /mnt/blah and the target as /mnt/blah2
[01:46] <Arwen> cp -r /mnt/blah/* /mnt/blah2
[01:46] <BioVorE> seanpcrowe|: 915 is know to be weird..
[01:46] <Arwen> then reinstall grub (no idea on this one)
[01:46] <BioVorE> yay net split
[01:46] <seanpcrowe|> yeah i have a intel GMA945 chip...
[01:46] <seanpcrowe|> everything plays fine in vista
[01:46] <tripp> !it
[01:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:47] <GoodHabit> Arwen: And what i need to do with /etc/fstab ? I dunno howto write by UUID's...
[01:47] <BioVorE> seanpcrowe|: trick is getting X setup right..
[01:47] <Arwen> GoodHabit, /dev/disk/by-uuid shows the symlinks between UUIDs and block devices
[01:48] <qontras> hi
[01:48] <qontras> how do I make an iso of a CD image?
[01:48] <qontras> thanks
[01:48] <Arwen> eh? that doesn't make sense
[01:48] <Arwen> ISOs are CD images
[01:48] <BioVorE> dd if=/dev/<cdrom device> of=/home/<username>/filename.iso
[01:48] <BioVorE> that will make an ISO
[01:48] <BioVorE> from a CD
[01:49] <seanpcrowe|> BioVorE, i "mplayer -vo gl" and it didnt fix the issue
[01:49] <BioVorE> try mplayer -vo x11
[01:49] <BluesKaj> or you can use' kiso ', qontras
[01:50] <GoodHabit> Arwen: I can be shure -r for cp is ok? What about cp -ax? Or it is does not matter?
[01:50] <Arwen> hmm, that's a good point
[01:50] <Arwen> anyway, with cp, just make sure permissions and ALL files are copied
[01:50] <BioVorE> -p
[01:51] <GoodHabit> Arwen: I am a noob on *nix, help me please, I think to do cp -ax. Am i right?
[01:51] <GoodHabit> :|
[01:51] <GoodHabit> *I think so after reading man cp
[01:51] <Arwen> yeah, that looks right
[01:51] <seanpcrowe|> BioVorE, shit it worked dude... i was doing something silly
[01:51] <Arwen> -a is -dpR
[01:52] <GoodHabit> I also googled, and there is dd-way, but i don't think what dd is write method.
[01:52] <Arwen> -d keeps symlinks, -p keeps permissions, and -R recurses
[01:52] <seanpcrowe|> BioVorE, "mplayer -vo gl filename" works...
[01:52] <Arwen> -x keeps it from wandering off the file system
[01:52] <BioVorE> seanpcrowe|: ah ok cool..  that renders the move as a series of GL textures :-P
[01:53] <seanpcrowe|> BioVorE, can i change something then to stop having to type -vo gl all the time?
[01:53] <BioVorE> cheap hax I did when I was using a cruddy ATI card..
[01:53] <seanpcrowe|> default setting or something
[01:53] <BioVorE> um.. there is..
[01:53] <BioVorE> there is a mplayer.conf file somewhere..  maybe in /etc
[01:53] <angasule> this is weird, my CD/DVD burner has /proc as a mount point? either that or the system settings are broken heh
[01:53] <qontras> thanks I got KISO too
[01:53] <BioVorE> seanpcrowe|: or you can  put it in ~./mplayer/
[01:53] <Frederick> folks anyone else is having problems with the network manager messing configs or loosing it?
[01:53] <BioVorE> Frederick: sorta..
[01:54] <Arwen> angasule, yes, that is a problem. Pastebin fstab.
[01:54] <GoodHabit> And last question, Can i resize ext 3? I have installed kubuntu at 3rd partition. And i want it on entire disk, How i can better?
[01:54] <BioVorE> Frederick: does weird stuff here sometimes..
[01:54] <GoodHabit> Sorry for bad english
[01:54] <Frederick> BioVorE: I just lost my wireless configs thanks to this shit
[01:54] <seanpcrowe|> ok BioVorE & Arwen.... thanks very much for your help =)
[01:54] <angasule> Arwen: nah, actually I don't care, it's working fine, but I have another pc in which I'm running Dapper and the burner isn't working, I wanted to compare the settings
[01:54] <qontras> WTF!!! You have to start KIso as root first
[01:54] <Frederick> is there any alternative to it?
[01:55] <BioVorE> Frederick: I havn't lost any configs here.. but switching is very glitchy..
[01:55] <BioVorE> Frederick: wireless assistant..
[01:55] <BioVorE> Or command line..
[01:56] <Frederick> BioVorE: the problem is that I dont know the pass of the network
[01:57] <BioVorE> well on the command line you can put in the WEP KEY
[01:58] <Frederick> BioVorE: so I lost my configs
[01:58] <BioVorE> possibly..
[01:58] <Frederick> and I need to call this dude from my dorm to do it again
[01:59] <BioVorE> write it down..
[01:59] <Frederick> BioVorE: I cant cause he uses a shared key for all users
[01:59] <Frederick> sho he only inserts the password with the *********
[02:00] <Frederick> not very smart
[02:00] <Frederick> I mean
[02:00] <josiah> !nvidia
[02:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <Frederick> a kid a a keylogger can get gim
[02:00] <Frederick> him
[02:00] <qontras> what can I do with a Bin Cue file?
[02:00] <qontras> burn, mount or what?
[02:00] <Frederick> qontras: both
[02:00] <tripp> !it
[02:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:01] <josiah> anybody here installed nvidia drivers on Feisty Fawn?
[02:01] <drif> josiah: binary ones?
[02:03] <josiah> drif: I dont know :). All I know is that glxinfo | grep rendering is returning "no" and I need it to return "yes". I am told I need to install nvidia drivers. I tried following the !nvidia site but had to reinstall kubuntu because I guess I did something wrong.
[02:04] <drif> josiah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:04] <drif> ok, so that didn't work out?
[02:04] <josiah> drif: no it didnt
[02:05] <hydrogen> I've been using restricted-manager recently
[02:05] <hydrogen> its a gnome product so you need to install a lot of mess
[02:05] <hydrogen> but
[02:05] <hydrogen> its makes it oneclickstupid :)
[02:05] <josiah> drif: But I had to follow the directions 6.10 because Im running kubuntu
[02:06] <josiah> drif: so I dont know if that had anything to do with it or not
[02:06] <drif> josiah: kubuntu feisty?
[02:06] <josiah> 7.04
[02:06] <josiah> drif: I am pretty sure at least... any quick way I can tell?
[02:07] <drif> josiah: lsb_release -c
[02:07] <josiah> feisty
[02:07] <josiah> :)
[02:08] <hydrogen> then why are you using the 6.10 instructions?
[02:08] <josiah> because the directions say if you are using kubuntu follow the 6.10 instructions
[02:08] <drif> hydrogen: because 7.04 instructions are based on restricted-manager
[02:10] <GoodHabit> How to resize ext3 partitions?
[02:10] <josiah> drif: I see there is a script a guy wrote: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432056&highlight=nvidia
[02:11] <word> Is there anyway to flash an SPD on linux?
[02:11] <josiah> drif: think its worth using. It would be great.. if it worked
[02:12] <josiah> drif: here is the scripts website: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:18] <drif> josiah: I've heard of that - not all positive though
[02:18] <word> erm, crashed...did anyone answer my "Is it possible to flash RAM to change the SPD in linux?" question?
[02:19] <drif> word: you mean performance?
[02:19] <josiah> drif: well I guess ill give it a shot and report back :)
[02:19] <mimagyc_> Bonsoir
[02:19] <word> drif: performance? I'm talking about the ram I was sent has a faulty spd...and the app they want me to use to reflash it is for windows...i'm wondering if there's an equivelant app in linux?
[02:19] <mimagyc_> je cherche a installer les pilote de ma carte graphique NVIDIA
[02:19] <mimagyc_> comment faire?
[02:19] <Fr0de> !fr
[02:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:20] <mimagyc_> sorry
[02:20] <Fr0de> :)
[02:23] <drif> josiah: well in the same sense as SPD can be optimized when rewriting
[02:23] <drif> josiah: for example SPD-Z, but that's for windows as well
[02:24] <drif> sorry :D word I mean
[02:24] <BioVorE> well technicaly you can do it in linux.. no one has written a program to reprogram the SPD on memory devices yet.. because most of them are not flash
[02:24] <drif> word: well in the same sense as SPD can be optimized when rewriting - for example with SPD-Z
[02:24] <BioVorE> only the newest OCZ sticks have that..
[02:25] <drif> true
[02:25] <word> drif: yes, that's what i'm talking about...OCZ wants me to use SPD-Z (i believe)
[02:26] <BioVorE> yes.. you stuck on 32bit windows for now..
[02:26] <drif> word: well that's the case then
[02:26] <word> well i was told that they would 'get me the files i need to flash it'
[02:26] <word> my windows install I intentionally attempted to destroy
[02:26] <word> it took 2 minutes...half of the dlls blew themselves up...
[02:26] <word> translation, i have no windows install :-/
[02:27] <drif> blew themselves up?
[02:27] <word> yah somehow i made windows think it has a bad sector..and chkdsk deleted half of the dlls and didn't care :-/
[02:27] <hayami> hi
[02:27] <hayami> anyone here knows how to run XGneogeo?
[02:28] <hayami> it's for emulate arcade games
[02:29] <josiah> drif: it worked great!
[02:29] <hayami> anyone knows how to use it?
[02:29] <drif> josiah: evidently..
[02:30] <josiah> drif: im just glad thats all over with.. what a pain in the butt it was.
[02:30] <drif> josiah: on the contrary - it's rather painless - but just dull
[02:31] <josiah> drif: you mean installing it was dull? No challenge?
[02:31] <hayami> anyone knows about gngeo?
[02:31] <drif> josiah: usage
[02:32] <josiah> drif: i dont understand
[02:32] <wxrkny> Is it possible to use svideo out with an ATI/AMD card in feisty?
[02:32] <drif> josiah: when compared to functionality of linux for example
[02:32] <drif> aargh
[02:32] <drif> I managed to mix two conversations :D
[02:32] <drif> I must be tired..
[02:33] <BioVorE> wxrkny: no ati's drive for linux is very crappy..
[02:33] <drif> josiah: so forget those last few lines ;)
[02:33] <josiah> drif:  haha
[02:33] <josiah> drif: ok
[02:33] <drif> should cook something
[02:33] <felipeb> wich program can I to cut a file jpeg?
[02:34] <wxrkny> i've read of people getting it to work but I cant find an easy to follow guide
[02:34] <BioVorE> felipeb: gimp?
[02:34] <NickPresta> felipeb, I like imagemagick. `display` and edit the image...
[02:34] <felipeb> mmm another more easy and simple?
[02:35] <word> drif: there seems to be a function call wine doesn't have that's uniform across any programs that involve things like spd (everest, SPD-Z, SPDTool)..I wonder if i could get a wine dev to put it in ;p
[02:35] <felipeb> tanks NickPresta
[02:36] <drif> word: kidnapping one of their staff member?
[02:36] <word> drif: that would be illegal :o ( do you know a guy? :P )
[02:36] <aaron_> in my XFCE windows, i have a mysterious little "o" in the top left corner next to the programs icon... anyone know what that is or how to get rid of it?
[02:36] <nixternal> aaron_: try #xubuntu for that one
[02:37] <aaron_> sheep are sleeping in that channel.
[02:37] <aaron_> :(
[02:37] <drif> aaron_: yeah, most of us here are XFCE illiterate
[02:37] <aaron_> suckers ;)
[02:37] <drif> even sheeps then eh..
[02:38] <drif> aaron_: does it bother you - other than in some estetic way?
[02:38] <aaron_> if it's there, it's there for a reason, and i'd like to know that reason.
[02:38] <aaron_> i'm sure its' a useful one.
[02:39] <aaron_> mayyyyybe it pins windows to the desktop
[02:39] <aaron_> ah. yeah. pins it to each desktop
[02:40] <vincent__> allo ?
[02:40] <drif> how can gfx on laptop card make such a racket... and I don't mean fan
[02:40] <drif> gfx card even
[02:40] <aaron_> what is it then?
[02:41] <drif> small clicketi-like sounds
[02:41] <drif> very rapid
[02:41] <dthacker> hi, I installed kubuntu on a friends computer and now he's getting grub error 17
[02:42] <BioVorE> hmm sounds like a bios problem
[02:42] <dthacker> I fired up parted magic and it says that /dev/hda1 has no label.  Can I fix it?
[02:42] <drif> dthacker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[02:42] <ubuntu_> BioVorE: Matthew came back?
[02:42] <BioVorE> I don't think it needs a lable..
[02:43] <BioVorE> I havn't been paying that much attention.. maybe..
[02:45] <DaSkreech> Ok My Wifi card thing is acting very strange
[02:47] <dthacker> drif: I have Max UDMA, ULtra DMA, Enhanced DMA, and MAX PIO.  Which one is closest to the forum thread's advice of auto
[02:47] <FrankH> anyone else having problems with flash and konqueror in gutsy?
[02:48] <DaSkreech> !gutsy | FrankH
[02:48] <ubotu> FrankH: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <drif> dthacker: hm, not sure about that Max DMA but either that or Ultra
[02:49] <hydrogen> Gibbon?
[02:49] <dthacker> drif: It's not working on Ultra DMA
[02:50] <DaSkreech> hydrogen: monkey type thing
[02:50] <Arwen> does ext3 support any kind of filesystem-level compression?
[02:50] <hydrogen> hmm
[02:51] <hydrogen> not sure about that DaSkreech
[02:51] <hydrogen> gibbon: Any unusually handsome, tall and long armed proponent of archery.  Rawr! Did you see that Gibbon on target 3? Think I stand a chance with him? (1/9)
[02:51] <FrankH> will check in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[02:51] <FrankH> r there any other kubuntu developer channels?
[02:51] <DaSkreech> #kubuntu-devel
[02:52] <FrankH> DaSKreech: thanks again
[02:53] <klobster> my system has started running unbearably slow over the last few days.  any ideas?
[02:53] <drif> dthacker: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#17
[02:53] <n30> hello all ...where's the acrobat reader package? i couldn't find it in adept, or add/remove programs
[02:53] <hydrogen> !acroread
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <hydrogen> !package acroread
[02:53] <hydrogen> :/
[02:54] <hydrogen> kpdf can open pdf files
[02:54] <n30> i know it can ...
[02:54] <hydrogen> but its not acrobat reader
[02:54] <n30> but i'd rather have acrobat like i do in gentoo :)
[02:54] <DaSkreech> klobster: Ram usage
[02:54] <hydrogen> its stupid slow on linux
[02:54] <n30> not on my system it isn't.
[02:55] <drif> n30: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-pdf-reader-with-plug-in-for-mozilla-firefox-in-feisty-fawn.html
[02:55] <hydrogen> compared to xpdf
[02:55] <n30> acroread does not exist.
[02:55] <n30> drif
[02:55] <drif> n30: although do not use automatix like the page insist
[02:55] <n30> yeah, i wouldn't use automatix anyhow.
[02:56] <drif> n30: so you tried medibuntu then?
[02:56] <dthacker> drif: I have kubuntu or alt install cd.  Will either of those let me boot and see grub.conf?
[02:57] <n30> Dragnslcr, trying that now.
[02:57] <dthacker> drif: I also have parted magic.
[02:57] <drif> dthacker: liveCD could be ideal
[02:58] <dthacker> I could not get hda1 mounted from livecd, can you help me if I try again?
[02:59] <klobster> DaSkreech: any ideas how to fix it?  I haven't been running anything new.
[02:59] <drif> dthacker: yes
[02:59] <DaSkreech> klobster: It depends on what's making the computer slow
[03:00] <dthacker> drif: booting from kubuntu live cd
[03:02] <klobster> DaSkreech: how do I find out?
[03:03] <genii> All we need now is a bartender....
[03:04] <DaSkreech> klobster: hunt down things that are out of whack
[03:04] <aaron_> does emerald require compiz/beryl to run?
[03:05] <n30> lately i've had adept_manager and add/remove programs hang on me (fail to launch)
[03:05] <n30> anyone had this happen?
[03:05] <drif> but you have handled the lock?
[03:06] <drif> !aptfix > n30
[03:06] <drif> !aptfix | n30
[03:06] <ubotu> n30: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:06] <dthacker> drif: at a command line on the live cd.  How do I look at grub.conf?
[03:07] <Arwen> If I run out of disk space, I won't be able to boot, right? Does that still apply even if I'm only running out of space on /home?
[03:07] <n30> drif -- it still failed to launch
[03:08] <drif> n30: saying?
[03:08] <n30> it starts to launch, and then the screen disappears
[03:09] <drif> yeah, kde sometimes acts strangely
[03:09] <drif> tried apt-get or aptitude?
[03:11] <n30> looks like i'm going to have to reboot to get rid of this error ...lol.
[03:11] <n30> be back in a bit.
[03:12] <genii> dthacker: First, you want menu.lst not grub.conf. You need to mount the partition that normally would be your / when booting hard drive. If you know the partition then mount it somewhere, like make a dir in /mnt like mkdir /mnt/temp    then mount the partition there. then you can find menu.lst at /mnt/temp/boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:13] <scribbles> Why is it that it says I don't have permission to edit a *.desktop item with the nice gui so I have to go to Edit as Root and edit it in Kwrite to make changes? How can I just use the gui?
[03:14] <xero> is there a way to share a dialup connection with other desktops from kubuntu with a softmodem?
[03:15] <xero> something like ics in windows?
[03:17] <xero> anyone?
[03:18] <BioVorE> xero: well vnc and rdp
[03:18] <BioVorE> if you can get an IP connection..
[03:18] <xero> anything else?
[03:18] <BioVorE> depends if the modem it supported in linux..
[03:18] <xero> yes it works
[03:18] <xero> i can dialup
[03:19] <BioVorE> so..  use krdp
[03:19] <xero> thatll share my connection?
[03:19] <genii> xero: Use method here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370   but replace outgoing ethX card with ppp0
[03:20] <xero> firestarter.
[03:21] <xero> anyone know about firestarter
[03:21] <neptunepink> !firestarter | xero
[03:21] <ubotu> xero: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:22] <xero> thanks
[03:23] <neptunepink> Our goal is eventually to be able to say !issue; and ubotu will show a wiki page up the person's nose. :)
[03:23] <intelikey> ok i have two nic cards one onboard one pci   they are both ifconfig up but i can only ping the server through one card, if i plug the cable in the other card no route to host,    anyone can trubble shoot ?
[03:24] <intelikey> neptunepink then you change your goal...
[03:24] <neptunepink> s/show/shove
[03:25] <genii> intelikey: Since there is normally only 1 default route obviously it's selecting the one which works as the default by whatever means.
[03:25] <intelikey> genii ok,  now what needs changed ?
[03:26] <genii> intelikey: They are currently both dhcp?
[03:26] <intelikey> neither
[03:27] <albertmk> have you ever seen a kubuntu woman user in life?
[03:27] <albertmk> there is even a kubuntu project development for women
[03:27] <intelikey> what is life
[03:27] <genii> intelikey: So each is static and has a defaultrouter entry then in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:28] <albertmk> lol
[03:28] <albertmk> that answer my question
[03:28] <intelikey> genii errr yes and no   nothing in /etc/network/interfaces  it's not even used
[03:28] <Jucato> albertmk: the Kubuntu Community manager is a woman. and there is an ubuntu-women channel or mailing list if I remember
[03:28] <albertmk> yeah like 4 women
[03:29] <intelikey> albertmk is there a point to this ?
[03:29] <genii> intelikey: OK, if neither is using dhcp and no interfaces entries... are you "statically" assigning by mac from the router's dhcp server? Or something else then entirely
[03:29] <Jucato> but this is really offtopic now. If you have questions about women's involvement in Ubuntu go ask them
[03:30] <intelikey> genii using  ifconfig eth1 ***.***.***.*** up
[03:31] <drif> intelikey: got both devices up then?
[03:31] <genii> intelikey: eth0 will likely work OK this way, but for eth1 you need a mac entry in the file /etc/iftab
[03:31] <intelikey> drif yes
[03:31] <drif> intelikey: what was the prob in the end?
[03:32] <intelikey> genii ok i'll look into that.   mac addy for the card or the server ?
[03:32] <genii> intelikey: eg:  eth1 mac aa:bb:cc etc   arp 1
[03:32] <intelikey> drif one can ping host other can't
[03:32] <genii> intelikey: For the nic
[03:32] <intelikey> k
[03:33] <genii> intelikey: Also if eth0 has an entry in /etc/network/interfaces   duplicate it for eth1
[03:33] <drif> intelikey: I mean what solved the hardware prob
[03:33] <intelikey> genii there is nothing in  /etc/iftab  nor  /etc/network/interfaces
[03:33] <drif> intelikey: or just using on another machine than previously?
[03:33] <DWonderly> Question. Netgear WG311v3 support....
[03:33] <intelikey> drif </blush> module.
[03:34] <intelikey> drif has  to load before other modules or it fails
[03:34] <intelikey> don't know why.   but do know it works.
[03:34] <genii> intelikey: if there is not even an eth0 entry in /etc/iftab then it's surprising even eth0 is working
[03:34] <reusch> excuse me, may I ask where might I go to find help with an issue I'm having? I don't want to interrupt you guys
[03:35] <intelikey> genii there isn't even a file  /etc/iftab
[03:35] <drif> intelikey: glad you found the solution
[03:35] <intelikey> reusch interrupt,  by all means.
[03:35] <reusch> thank you
[03:35] <sipalui> hallo
[03:36] <intelikey> drif yeah   i am in contact with some friends on that issue.    but it seems that a conflict in drivers is the root of my problme.
[03:36] <genii> intelikey: Hmm. I would suggest first to touch the file (sudo) then restart networking, look into the file and see if at least eth0 entry there.
[03:37] <intelikey> genii restart networking ?    ifconfig * down/up ?
[03:37] <genii> intelikey:   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:37] <intelikey> no such critter
[03:38] <reusch> I recently downloaded ubuntu ultimate 1.4. and downloaded all the upgrades it was supposed to do. But, the default theme seems like it doesn't want to change. I've now downloaded KDE and booted into that, but the theme still won't go away
[03:38] <reusch> i like it, but beryl doesn't like it :/
[03:38] <genii> intelikey: Aaah. did you have to insert some network mudule then before the nics were seen? Would explain networking not being installed
[03:39] <reusch> the top bar, with minimize, maximize, and close dissapears when i change it to anything but Metacity, the GNOME window manager
[03:39] <intelikey> genii yeah,   can you help reusch ?   i don't know beryl
[03:39] <genii> I don't know beryl either :(
[03:39] <reusch> i suppose my question is, how can get to KDE
[03:39] <reusch> I'd like to use compiz fusion if possible
[03:40] <speaker219> reusch: have you picked "Sessions" at the login screen, then picked "KDE session"?
[03:40] <BioVorE> !beryl
[03:40] <intelikey> reusch oh   at the login there should be a option to choose session
[03:40] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:40] <reusch> yes i have, I'm in it right now
[03:40] <jhutchins> reusch: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but beware that there will be problems with beryl & kde.
[03:40] <reusch> but this theme that ubuntu ultimate came with just won't go away, and it's the GNOME tastbars that are on the top and bottom of the screen
[03:41] <genii> intelikey: did you add the nic drivers into /etc/modules so it loads at boot?
[03:41] <intelikey> genii ok. nah  just a modprobe for the other "onboard" nic
[03:42] <Mahdi> hi can someone help me with adsl connection
[03:42] <reusch> I would assume when you boot into the KDE environment, the taskbars become KDE's? lol, mine are still GNOME
[03:43] <genii> intelikey: I suspect the entire networking subsystem is being bypassed since no adapters are being found during startup. If nic module in /etc/modules it may get a bit further
[03:44] <seanpcrowe|> http://rafb.net/p/qgYJC376.html <----- could someone tell me where this extracted to please????lol
[03:44] <Mahdi> what it "ppp authentiocation failed" when i want to connect to internet
[03:45] <drif> seanpcrowe|: I suspect Desktop/Downloads/
[03:46] <reusch> Maybe I will have a solution, if someone can verify that this will work..
[03:46] <genii> intelikey: That there is no /etc/init.d/networking is worrisome. Likeley means installation choked on finding network adapters then networking setup was bypassed entirely
[03:46] <seanpcrowe|> Drif, no dude... they aint there...
[03:46] <intelikey> ok i'm on the other card now.
[03:47] <drewcipher> seanpcrowe| : not the best way but should work:   sudo find / -name "discovery.channel.ultimate.10.mm.pdtv.avi" -print
[03:47] <intelikey> let me swap cables again and see if i loose connection
[03:47] <reusch> in Ubuntu Ultimate, they have a desktop configuration file that runs scripts to download everything included in Ultimate from all the repositories. If I were to install just straight Kubuntu, would you reckon that config file will still run scripts?
[03:48] <seanpcrowe|> drewcipher, you are a legend sir...
[03:48] <seanpcrowe|> it was in /home/sean/discovery.channel.ultimate.10.mm.pdtv.avi lol
[03:49] <seanpcrowe|> for some strange reasone
[03:49] <intelikey> very strange.
[03:49] <drif> seanpcrowe|: you were there when you ran unrar..
[03:49] <intelikey> genii i have an error to work with...   route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[03:49] <intelikey> SIOCADDRT: File exists
[03:49] <drif> seanpcrowe|: sean@sean-laptop:~ <- home
[03:50] <genii> intelikey: Then it already knows your default gw is that then
[03:51] <genii> intelikey: You could tell it that there are routes to that gw from both adapters
[03:51] <intelikey> genii ok that's what i'm wanting to learn about right there
[03:51] <seanpcrowe|> drif, ah yes... i see now
[03:51] <seanpcrowe|> thx for clearing that up =)
[03:52] <drif> np
[03:52] <intelikey> genii if i eth# down then   route add   it works with which ever card is still up  but if both up then can't add the route
[03:53] <intelikey> so what am i looking for ?    bind maybe ?
[03:54] <genii> intelikey:sudo route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1 eth0
[03:54] <genii> intelikey:sudo route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1 eth1
[03:54] <genii> etc
[03:55] <genii> intelikey: AFK a few minutes
[03:56] <drif> genii: btw, am I able to choose which ethX I'm using for example when pinging? could be asking something rater obvious but it's late..
[03:56] <drif> +h
[03:56] <tripp> !it
[03:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:01] <genii> drif: Usually it will use them in order eth0 then eth1 if no route thru eth0
[04:02] <genii> drif: you can force interface with -I ethX
[04:03] <drif> genii: yup, obvious like I said :) thanks
[04:03] <intelikey> genii it seems that i'll have to do some real reading on this one.   and i'm not up for that now.    i have noted all your sujestions  (that i saw anyway)    and will resume later
[04:03] <genii> drif: np
[04:03] <intelikey> genii thanks.
[04:03] <drif> genii: although the man page I found on google didn't include that -I
[04:03] <genii> intelikey: Yer welcome :) I'll be here local work hours tomorrow for 9 hrs if yer around
[04:04] <intelikey> k
[04:04] <genii> intelikey: So 10 hours from now for 9 hrs
[04:04] <intelikey> heh  not me.
[04:05] <intelikey> i'll be around here for maybe two hours   but off and on.
[04:05] <intelikey> then maybe back tomarrow about this time
[04:06] <intelikey> would like to hang   but life gets in the way
[04:06] <genii> I could do about this time again, it's 10pm which will be after my 2nd work
[04:12] <BluesKaj> I admire your caffeine tolerance, genii :)
[04:12] <drif> that's just doping..*shrug*
[04:12] <underdog5004> genii, still around?
[04:13] <genii> BluesKaj: :)
[04:13] <genii> underdog5004: Yup :)
[04:13] <genii> BluesKaj: Since it will take 79 cups to kill me might as well not worry about drinking the 25 or so a day
[04:13] <underdog5004> genii, I just got back...I checked all my logs, no signs of intrusion...I've only got a few ips trying to gain access now...I'm starting to think it's just a botnet-type attack
[04:13] <Angelus> can somone help me with the folowing error please ? http://rafb.net/p/YI0Z9H81.html
[04:14] <BluesKaj> genii, LOL
[04:14] <foo25> How would I modify this part of my startup script to launch after adept notifier? "X-KDE-autostart-after=kdesktop"
[04:15] <genii> underdog5004: There are a lot of automated spiders etc that randomly poke into IP addies. I get that a lot at work
[04:15] <Angelus> BluesKaj:  i formated and re-installed kubuntu, and i installed my ATI card (7000/VE) but i dont have direct rendering on it ., btw do youhave any idea bout this http://rafb.net/p/YI0Z9H81.html ?
[04:17] <qontras> I am getting this error "This processor may not be powerful enough to run VMware Workstation with good performance.  Your estimated processing speed is 90 Mhz.  Refer to http://www.vmware.com/info?id=4 for this product's minimum requirements."
[04:17] <qontras> which is false
[04:17] <qontras> I've got a p4 here
[04:17] <BluesKaj> Angelus, , i do know where you can get help with DRI on ATI ( http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty), but the libdl , or the linker prob I hve no idea.
[04:19] <Angelus> ah BluesKaj, there is only an opensource driver for my ati
[04:19] <Angelus> it doesnt supportfglrx
[04:19] <Angelus> also, on the live cd i had Direct rendering
[04:20] <BluesKaj> Angelus try it , it might work , this driver is modded and patched to enable DRI and 3D on ATI cards
[04:20] <AmyRose> Is there a way to configure sudo to not remember your password for 15 minutes? I've made a couple of mistakes I would have been able to take back if I had the password prompt...
[04:20] <BluesKaj> on feisty
[04:21] <BluesKaj> AmyRose, try using the up arrow key in the konsole to get back to your original commands
[04:21] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: HUH?!
[04:22] <AmyRose> That's got nothing to do with sudo remembering my password for 15 minutes
[04:22] <AmyRose> I'm trying to get it to always show me the password prompt
[04:22] <genii> man sudoers
[04:22] <AmyRose> I hope that's possible because it gives me a chance to take back dangerous commands
[04:22] <BluesKaj> well, if you want to change stuff ,what are you worried about the 15 mins for ?
[04:23] <drif> AmyRose: so it prompts password for every action taken?
[04:23] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: Because I once wiped out my /etc directory by accident because of a loose keyboard connection
[04:23] <Angelus> and i added myself into a group to use /usr without a password :/ lol!
[04:23] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: I would have been able to stop it before that happened
[04:24] <AmyRose> drif: Yes. Exactly. That's what I want.
[04:24] <BluesKaj> sorry , i guess i don't understand ...continue
[04:25] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: I just ran a command with sudo, entered my password, the keyboard came loose while I was typing another command that started with "sudo rm -r /etc" (I was trying to clean up a directory *under* /etc), but it thought I hit Enter, and since passwords are extremely unlikely to be entered by accident, the password prompt would have saved my system
[04:26] <rc-1> so what verion will detect monitor resolution right?
[04:26] <genii> AmyRose: You can set in the file /etc/sudoers many things. One of the things you can set there is to always prompt for sudo password, for instance. It is documented in manpage for sudoers as well you can find numerous examples on the web thru google
[04:26] <drif> AmyRose: try timeout in sudoers
[04:26] <AmyRose> thanks, genii and drif
[04:26] <rc-1> every install i have to manually edit xorg.conf
[04:26] <AmyRose> I really would rather have to enter my password all the time...
[04:26] <josiah> any good open source mmorpgs?
[04:26] <drif> AmyRose: http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/man/sudoers.html
[04:26] <AmyRose> (though a common n00b question is "I want to get rid of that annoying password prompt!")
[04:27] <Angelus> AmyRose: if passwords make you anoyed doesnt mean your a noob
[04:27] <Angelus> i dont like a password everytime and i dont like as a matter of fact, doesnt mean im a n00b
[04:28] <AmyRose> Angelus: No, I am not annoyed by having to enter mine--I just asked how to make it so I *always* have to enter it
[04:28] <AmyRose> Plus it's not easy to explain to some pedantic ex-Windows users why you shouldn't log in as root
[04:28] <Angelus> yeah but as i said, if you dont like the password ( like me) doesnt mean your a noob
[04:30] <AmyRose> Angelus: Yeah, but I find it far more tolerable than Vista's "cancel or allow" dialogs, or knowing that anything on my system can wreck it with one bug
[04:30] <BluesKaj> wow AmyRose , bummer :(
[04:30] <intelikey> only as init
[04:30] <Angelus> well
[04:30] <Angelus> it can be fun to re-install
[04:30] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: Yeah, that's why I am asking how to make the password promt always appear--it gives you a second chance
[04:30] <Angelus> lol
[04:30] <Angelus> i have blowed my system 2hours ago and re-installed
[04:31] <AmyRose> Angelus: Not when you are someone who just needs the computer to work =P
[04:31] <AmyRose> believe it or not, some of us actually use the Linux that way! *gasp* *gasp*
[04:32] <intelikey> Angelus i used to reload twice a week whether i needed to or not..
[04:32] <drif> AmyRose: passwd_timeout 1 atleast - 0 means no timeout..
[04:32] <Angelus> why intelikey?
[04:32] <intelikey> heh  well that's hard to explain,
[04:33] <intelikey> lets just say safty and leave it at taht
[04:33] <intelikey> that
[04:34] <BluesKaj> I've been trying to convince my former employer to switch over to linux (large paper co, from which i am now retired ) and after thelatest MS offering they thinking seriously of switching once XP is no longer supported .
[04:34] <drif> BluesKaj: no longer supported?
[04:34] <drif> ah, in the future you mean?
[04:35] <hydrogen> the question still remains is it more costly to retrain everyone to be able to use linux/port custom apps to linux or is it more costly to just bite the bullet and upgrade
[04:35] <BluesKaj> yes drif , like W98 is no longer supported , or will not be shortly
[04:35] <josiah> I have a .bin file that I want to install/run... what is the command to do so?
[04:36] <intelikey> josiah bash file.bin
[04:36] <intelikey> josiah sudo bash file.bin   if it has to have root perms.
[04:37] <drif> BluesKaj: I guess 98 support is already dead
[04:37] <kubuntunewbie> is there a way to make konversation remember your user tag so you dont have to type it in every time you load konversation?
[04:37] <josiah> thank you intelikey
[04:37] <BluesKaj> drif, some ppl are still using it and runs quite well on older pcs
[04:37] <drif> BluesKaj: as it is, yes
[04:38] <BluesKaj> linux would be much beter tho
[04:38] <BluesKaj> better
[04:38] <genii> kubuntunewbie: File...Server list ...Edit
[04:38] <josiah> would it be best to install a app to /opt or /home?
[04:38] <AmyRose> Wow, you can get sudo to insult users?! *laughs*
[04:38] <intelikey> josiah welcome,   and i would have said     sh file.bin   which is more posixly correct   but lots of idiots anymore refuse to follow posix on the very basic things like installer syntax ...
[04:39] <drif> AmyRose: naturally
[04:39] <genii> kubuntunewbie: Then edit the default nicks it uses from there
[04:39] <drif> AmyRose: superior is superior in any possible sense
[04:39] <intelikey> josiah you'll need root perms to write in /opt    but not in $HOME
[04:40] <kubuntunewbie> genii: tyvm
[04:40] <AmyRose> drif: I can see that! I turned it on so I can laugh because "Password incorrect" is so boring
[04:40] <josiah> intelikey: ok. I think home would probably be best so that I can change things through KDE rather than through konsole... wouldnt that be accurate?
[04:40] <genii> kubuntunewbie: You're welcome.
[04:41] <kubuntunewbie> When i load Gmail from Konqueror it comes up all mumbo-jumboish is there an update i have to install or something?
[04:41] <intelikey> josiah yes for thing you install from .bin files i would agree.
[04:42] <Skunk> kubuntunewbie: shouldnt come up garbled
[04:42] <Skunk> do you have firefox installed?
[04:42] <kubuntunewbie> yes i do, but i like Konqueror
[04:42] <kubuntunewbie> and i want to make it work
[04:42] <kubuntunewbie> let me check and see if it works with fox
[04:42] <intelikey> GOOD ANSWER kubuntunewbie
[04:43] <intelikey> :)
[04:43] <Skunk> well we need to find out if its just the browser or if its your kubuntu
[04:43] <Skunk> cool
[04:44] <drif> hey, someone tell me what those character boxes scattered around web page mean on konqueror?
[04:44] <drif> anything useful, I believe accidentaly pressing ctrl surfaces'em
[04:44] <Skunk> are they like little squares?
[04:44] <hydrogen> its access keys
[04:44] <Skunk> ah o.o
[04:44] <hydrogen> it allows you to navigate without a mouse
[04:44] <drif> Skunk: yeah, rather annoying ones
[04:44] <hydrogen> ctrl and then hit the letter
[04:44] <hydrogen> and it opens the related link
[04:44] <drif> hydrogen: how do I enable/disable'em then?
[04:44] <hydrogen> its a really cool feature
[04:45] <drif> usually cant' get those boxes to disappear
[04:45] <kubuntunewbie> odd. it works fine with firefox
[04:45] <hydrogen> not sure if its doable
[04:45] <hydrogen> just hit ctrl again
[04:45] <hydrogen> to make it disappear
[04:45] <hydrogen> but you can't permanently
[04:45] <drif> hydrogen: are those boxes customizable?
[04:46] <drif> imho those are bit too chunky
[04:46] <Skunk> kubuntunewbie: then we know its something wrong with konqueror
[04:46] <Skunk> so we've somewhat isolated it
[04:46] <hydrogen> not really sure
[04:46] <hydrogen> I just know what they are :)
[04:46] <drif> I like konqueror in general - just those boxes sometimes get to me
[04:47] <kubuntunewbie> Skunk: okay, would you mind helping me fix it?
[04:47] <kubuntunewbie> i cant wait to rid my life of windows
[04:48] <intelikey> Skunk or it could be something wrong with the web page and not konq   seeing that konq is standards compliant  and a lot of web pages aren't
[04:48] <kubuntunewbie> i went out of my way to re build a pentium 2 with a 7 gb hard drive and bought extra ram for it so i could make this box run linux well.  if i learn it good i will put it on my AMD 64 3700
[04:49] <kubuntunewbie> i bet this runs speedy as hell with 2gb
[04:49] <intelikey> why would more ram make it run faster,   if you aren't into swap then more ram should not speed it up any.
[04:50] <kubuntunewbie> i run liike 45 programs at a time
[04:50] <BluesKaj> Skunk, for example yahoo doesn't work well with konq
[04:51] <Skunk> true.
[04:51] <kubuntunewbie> is it a hopeless cause?
[04:52] <BluesKaj> what is hopeless , kubuntunewbie ?
[04:52] <kubuntunewbie> geting konqueror to run my gmail
[04:52] <kubuntunewbie> it comes up all screwey, but gmail works fine in firefox
[04:53] <BluesKaj> try kmail , it's the kde equivalent ...you can transfer most settings i beleieve
[04:54] <hydrogen> hmm
[04:55] <hydrogen> not sure how I managed this but I like it! Timing cached reads:   5148 MB in  2.00 seconds = 2579.39 MB/sec
[04:55] <matthewgialich> hey can someone help me with a problem im having
[04:55] <kubuntunewbie> BluesKaj: is kmail google owned?
[04:55] <matthewgialich> i am using knoppix thought, and no one is in the knopptix room
[04:55] <kubuntunewbie> BluesKaj: or is it a whole diff thing
[04:56] <BluesKaj> no kmail is the kde email client
[04:57] <genii> matthewgialich: Well, kubuntu and knoppix are similar but not identical. If no help here yo may want to try #debian since both come from that
[04:57] <matthewgialich> genii: thanks
[04:57] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntunewbie: konqueror handles gmail fine for me but perhaps better with chat disabled
[04:58] <kubuntunewbie> kmail comes up in japanese......
[04:58] <kubuntunewbie> WaltzingAlong: how do i disable chat?
[04:59] <BluesKaj> gmail is webmail , kmail is native to kubuntu ..2 different things , yes
[04:59] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntunewbie: there is a link across the bottom of the web interface to gmail
[04:59] <WaltzingAlong> BluesKaj: yes BluesKaj but googlemail also provides free pop access
[04:59] <kubuntunewbie> BluesKaj: i need to not use pop3, i need to use webmail
[04:59] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntunewbie: you coulso use the standard html interface
[05:00] <kubuntunewbie> WaltzingAlong: ehh, its prob just better off that i use firefox for my webmail, no biggie
[05:01] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntunewbie: which sorts of issues have you seen using konqueror to access gmail?
[05:01] <matthewgialich> how do i mount a drive?
[05:01] <matthewgialich> a usb drive?
[05:01] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntunewbie: worse for me is that the names in the quick contact/chat extend past the box's boundaries
[05:01] <kubuntunewbie> WaltzingAlong: it comes up completely jumbled.  it shows all my e-mails but they are not in hyperlink form and they are crammed together with no layout
[05:02] <intelikey> matthewgialich  sudo mount </device> </mountpoint>            translate  <>
[05:02] <icdoctor-1> (math) just plug it in
[05:02] <BluesKaj> WaltzingAlong, yes I'm using pop3 access with gmail to kmail
[05:02] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntunewbie: i see. i am using konqueror 3.5.7
[05:02] <icdoctor-1> (math) then look for the icon on your desktop
[05:03] <matthewgialich> ok how the hell do i get my data off my harddrive using linux and put it on an eternal, anyone know what version of linux would be best to use
[05:03] <kubuntunewbie> WaltzingAlong: how do i tell what ver of knoq i am using?
[05:03] <kubuntunewbie> WaltzingAlong: nevermind i found it.... i am using 3.5.6
[05:04] <intelikey> matthewgialich you "cp" it from one mountpoint to another,     and the linux you like.
[05:04] <kubuntunewbie> WaltzingAlong: to upgrade it do i just type sudo apt-get install konqueror?
[05:04] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntunewbie: you could need to add the kde357 repositories
[05:04] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntunewbie: you add the kde357 repositories, i meant
[05:04] <icdoctor-1> anyone have evolution with gpg working
[05:05] <kubuntunewbie> WaltzingAlong: im like 3 days into using linux and ive come a good way since i installed but i dont know how to do that could you walk me through?
[05:05] <enzo_> Can k3b recognize Nero's NVC files to burn?
[05:05] <matthewgialich> intelikey: i have no clue about linux and no version seams to work in ubuntu it says that i cannot write to the harddrive
[05:06] <DaSKreech> matthewgialich: duuude
[05:06] <intelikey> matthewgialich cause you don't have permission   but root does
[05:06] <intelikey> !kdesu | matthewgialich
[05:06] <ubotu> matthewgialich: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:07] <DaSKreech> intelikey: It's a NTFS USB drive
[05:07] <enzo_> !nero
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <DaSKreech> intelikey: he needs ntfs-3g
[05:07] <matthewgialich> ubotu: im using ubuntu, not kubuntu, but everyone in the ubuntu room wont help me
[05:07] <intelikey> matthewgialich ntfs  ?     yuch
[05:07] <matthewgialich> yes it is ntsf
[05:07] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | matthewgialich
[05:07] <ubotu> matthewgialich: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:08] <intelikey> !ntfs
[05:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:08] <matthewgialich> the computer im working on has no internet connection can i download it on a diffrent computer and then install it?
[05:08] <intelikey> you can but you  may need interdependant packages
[05:09] <intelikey> i.e.   more than one lownload
[05:09] <matthewgialich> is ther some place i can get the whoel file on my mac and put it on a tumb drive or something
[05:09] <enzo_> Didn't there use to be a nero app for Kubuntu?
[05:09] <DaSKreech> matthewgialich: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <DaSKreech> enzo_: did you try nero's site?
[05:09] <enzo_> Wasn't it in the repos?
[05:09] <intelikey> enzo_ i think so   but not the official repos
[05:10] <enzo_> Ok
[05:10] <DaSKreech> enzo_: No it costs money. apt and dpkg haven't been patched to do credit/debit cards yet
[05:10] <intelikey> !find nero
[05:10] <ubotu> File nero found in dvb-utils
[05:10] <carbonfreeze> IIRC you can use your non-OEM nero key for nero 9+ on linux
[05:10] <enzo_> Thanks DaSKreech, I'm trying nero's site
[05:10] <enzo_> intelikey: Ok
[05:10] <enzo_> DaSKreech: Any clue as to when? :P
[05:11] <DaSKreech> enzo_: sorry?
[05:12] <enzo_> DaSKreech: apt and dpkg haven't been patched to do credit/debit cards yet
[05:12] <vircuser> Hi
[05:12] <JustRob> Is there a way to see throughput in adept
[05:12] <DaSKreech> enzo_: oh yeah it's coming out with apple's distro
[05:13] <DaSKreech> iTuxTunes and all that
[05:13] <enzo_> And then m$ is viral-free?
[05:13] <orient> I have trouble installing Kubuntu 7.04 on computer with nvidia motherboard and ati radeon x1300 video card
[05:14] <BluesKaj> Interesting when using konq to access my gmail acct I see amessage at the top of the page that i should use a "fully supported browser" ...well i see what ineed on the page so far so good ...no dumb adverts bothering me :)
[05:15] <genii> BluesKaj: I get the same thing when I try to get to my canada.com email
[05:16] <BluesKaj> nvidia mobo and ati graphics ... must be ahome built pc or addon graphics card
[05:16] <DaSKreech> enzo_: what are you? High?
[05:16] <enzo_> BluesKaj: translates to "Please use a bugged browser so as to infect you with adware and non-stop popups to make your system come to a screeching hault"
[05:16] <orient> BluesKaj: addon card
[05:16] <carbonfreeze> it is possible to set user agent in konqueror settings for individual sites
[05:16] <enzo_> DaSKreech: Haha!
[05:18] <BluesKaj> enzo , I luv it , carbonfreeze ...I'm too lazy to tweak right, maybe when i'm feeling more ambitious ....much later :)
[05:21] <JustRob> So, no throughput display in adept?
[05:21] <BluesKaj> genii, i just checked out the canada.com site ...whoa , what a mess!
[05:21] <DaSKreech> JustRob: like a speedometer?
[05:21] <carbonfreeze> JustRob: only for downloading packages (select display detalis or somesuch), which will show wget output
[05:21] <JustRob> yeah
[05:22] <DaSKreech> That's an interesting idea
[05:22] <DaSKreech> Don't know of one...
[05:22] <JustRob> hmm...forgot I have package installer open and not the full adept manager
[05:22] <JustRob> cause I know apt-get shows the wget output from cli
[05:23] <JustRob> but this one package seems to be taking forever when most things are done in seconds
[05:23] <JustRob> which is what prompted the question in the first place
[05:23] <genii> BluesKaj: On that one, the "New Improved" Webmail only works with IE or FF, not even Konq at all. the "Classic" email seems to work with all tho it warns on Konq and elinks
[05:24] <DaSKreech> JustRob: You can just cancel it. It will pick up from where it left off
[05:25] <carbonfreeze> anyone having issues with kde-automount in tribe5? I'm no longer getting spammed by the kde storage daemon when I insert USB storage devices
[05:26] <DaSKreech> carbonfreeze: that's an issue? :)
[05:26] <carbonfreeze> DaSKreech: yeah because I didn't tell it to stop spamming me; and I need to put some junk on my iPod with amarok
[05:27] <DaSKreech> Ah
[05:27] <angasule> !gpg
[05:27] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[05:27] <DaSKreech> although if you asked for it I think it stops being spam
[05:29] <enzo_> carbonfreeze: My fiance has an iPod. For some strange reason, when she puts a video file in her iPod, it's all audio with a black screen. Have you had this issue?
[05:30] <carbonfreeze> enzo_: I have a ghetto iPod so I have not run into that issue yet. It may be in a format not playable by the iPod firmware.
[05:30] <enzo_> carbonfreeze: It happened to the video she had on there before as well. Not just the new video
[05:32] <DaSKreech> Crap
[05:32] <DaSKreech> how do I remap my multimedia keys?
[05:41] <speaker219> Does anybody know if there's a fix for the Flash Player crashing bug in firefox that happens every so often?
[05:42] <Jucato> what bug?
[05:42] <Jucato> on Feisty?
[05:43] <speaker219> Yeah
[05:43] <speaker219> every so often, firefox crashes on flash
[05:43] <NickPresta> speaker219, welcome to Flash on GNU+Linux
[05:43] <elpez> so THAT's why firefox crashes?
[05:43] <speaker219> Yeah, it sucks
[05:44] <Jucato> hm....
[05:44] <speaker219> Linux is great, except for that one minor flaw
[05:44] <NickPresta> which is?
[05:44] <speaker219> i've customized linux to my liking, but flash pisses me off
[05:44] <speaker219> the flash bug..
[05:44] <NickPresta> speaker219, poor support for flash is not the fault of GNU+Linux. Send emails to Adobe, tell them how important flash is to you, etc
[05:45] <speaker219> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/74738
[05:45] <DaSKreech> speaker219: It's great except for adobe?
[05:45] <elpez> i've always wondered why there isn't a free alternative to flash...
[05:45] <speaker219> Yeah..
[05:45] <NickPresta> !gnash
[05:45] <speaker219> elpez: there is
[05:45] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[05:45] <speaker219> yup ;)
[05:46] <BluesKaj> Konq is a bit clunky to setup (needs some terminology/nomenclature streamlining), but once one gets past the arcane-ness of it , it just works so fast and clean
[05:46] <speaker219> It really kind of sucks though, no offense. it would be great if it worked
[05:46] <DaSKreech> speaker219: that's isn't an alternative
[05:46] <DaSKreech> that's a replacement
[05:46] <DaSKreech> not the same thing
[05:46] <speaker219> gnash=not stable at all
[05:46] <DaSKreech> n alternative is like Gif <--> PNG
[05:46] <speaker219> yeah..
[05:46] <speaker219> try watching a youtube video with gnash
[05:46] <speaker219> its all screwed up..
[05:46] <DaSKreech> there needs to be a OO.o type shake up
[05:47] <DaSKreech> Bet you adobe would suddenly be chummy then
[05:47] <DaSKreech> You know what's strange Adobe is real big on standarfs
[05:47] <DaSKreech>  look at PDF
[05:47] <Jucato> can you make firefox consistently crash with the flash content of a particular website?
[05:47] <Jucato> or are the crashes just random?
[05:47] <DaSKreech> they know how to make something a standard and welcome suggestions and still make money from it
[05:48] <elpez> in my case its random
[05:48] <BluesKaj> yeah speaker219, i tried it ... so i reverted to konq plugin defaults in kcontrol and now youtube plays flash NP.
[05:48] <genii> Jucato: There is one site which when open in 3 or more tabs at once consistently crashes for me.
[05:48] <speaker219> Jucato: mostly youtube, but any time you are watching a video and go to another video, it crashes randomly
[05:48] <Jucato> genii: on firefox? hmm...
[05:48] <NickPresta> I must say, Firefox has been quite good to me. I watched over 30 videos on YouTube yesterday and it didn't crash once...
[05:49] <speaker219> the flash bug causes a segmentation fault: http://pastebin.ca/673089
[05:49] <genii> Jucato: Yes, hardwarecentral.com
[05:49] <speaker219> NickPresta: are you on the same system now?
[05:49] <NickPresta> speaker219, yes.
[05:50] <speaker219> NickPresta: can you go to about:config in firefox and tell me what flash version you have?
[05:50] <Jucato> genii: ok let me try
[05:50] <genii> Jucato: They have large flash ads down the right of the screen there
[05:50] <NickPresta> speaker219, about:plugins, you mean?
[05:50] <speaker219> gah, yah :P
[05:51] <NickPresta> speaker219, Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48
[05:51] <speaker219> NickPresta: can you send me your ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so file?
[05:51] <NickPresta> speaker219, sure
[05:51] <speaker219> thanks ;)
[05:51] <Jucato> genii: I have to open hardwarecentral in 3 or more tabs?
[05:51] <BluesKaj> speaker219, also have you tried the flashplugin-nonfree ?
[05:52] <speaker219> i don't know if you can send them to me via irc, or upload them to http://localhostr.com/ or something
[05:52] <speaker219> BluesKaj: yeah, that's the official flash player...that's the only one i've used
[05:52] <NickPresta> speaker219, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/libflashplayer.so
[05:52] <BluesKaj> it should work in FF and Konq
[05:52] <speaker219> DynDNS ftw ;)
[05:53] <genii> Jucato: I just noticed they made the ads smaller since last week now. I have 1 tab open there now, will do 2 more and see if it does it again for me
[05:53] <genii> Last week every time like clockwork
[05:53] <speaker219> BluesKaj: it "works" but crashes occasionaly
[05:53] <DaSKreech> Though I think that Adobe is probably moving to make it more like PDF
[05:54] <NickPresta> genii, I have 11 tabs of hardwarecentral.com. No crashing for me.
[05:54] <Jucato> genii: 5 tabs. nothing...l
[05:54] <genii> I have 3 and still OK today
[05:54] <carbonfreeze> adobe pdf for linux sucks, it loads an 80mb binary into RAM every time you view a pdf. much easier to use kpdf
[05:55] <genii> Very freaking weird
[05:55] <NickPresta> carbonfreeze, I agree.
[05:55] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm i'm here on three boxes
[05:55] <elpez> i heard adobe included in its product's spellcheck the word linux as a mistake... with suggested correction "why don't you use: windows"
[05:55] <intelikey> i fixed my networking the way i "think" i want it
[05:55] <elpez> no love for linux from them
[05:55] <carbonfreeze> now, if kpdf could only display inline on firefox, like adobe pdf; that would be cool. maybe an addon in the future for ff? =)
[05:56] <Agent_bob> so i'll go now and let you fellows alone
[05:56] <NickPresta> speaker219, it's cool. It's fairly public. I don't have (much) to hide. :)
[05:57] <DaSKreech> carbonfreeze: huh?
[05:57] <DaSKreech> elpez: article or it's not true! :)
[05:58] <carbonfreeze> DaSKreech: wouldn't it be cool if FF could use KPDF for rendering pdf files within the browser? KPDF is much faster than adobe (its not an 80mb binary blob)
[05:58] <DaSKreech> carbonfreeze: PDF is a standard just implement something
[05:58] <NickPresta> speaker219, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/lab/php/recur_dir.phps I use a custom script that looks similar to that.
[05:59] <elpez> DaSkreech: i know.. i was just told by someone close... seemed weird
[05:59] <carbonfreeze> DaSKreech: well I'm just saying thats a possibility until FF can render PDF without a plugin or external application
[06:00] <DaSKreech> carbonfreeze: It does it with konqi that's good enough for me :)
[06:01] <carbonfreeze> DaSKreech: yep, FF is bloated enough anywho. OpenWith:kpdf works for me
[06:02] <dkillian> hey i just upgraded from edgy to feisty and now my wireless device isn't working
[06:03] <dkillian> it shows up in lshw and sais UNCLAIMED
[06:04] <dkillian> it's an atheros desktop card, it worked out of the box before
[06:04] <dkillian> it doesn't show up at all in iwconfig/ifconfig
[06:04] <DaSKreech> !wifi
[06:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:19] <BluesKaj> sacktime..nite all
[06:20] <cprmpt> is it possible to connect to my KDE desktop remotely from a windows XP machine?
[06:21] <elpez> i think you can do that with vnc
[06:23] <hayami> what is the command to move files to another in console
[06:23] <intelikey> mv
[06:24] <hayami> C=o thanks
[06:26] <DaSKreech> What do I need for yahoo Webcam?
[06:29] <hayami> someone here knows how to use xmame?
[06:29] <hayami> i have problems
[06:29] <elpez> does anyone here now about trouble reading audio cds on kubuntu?
[06:29] <elpez> im helping someone on the spanish channel and theres not much help over there
[06:29] <NickPresta> !ask
[06:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:30] <elpez> well.. this 
[06:30] <intelikey> elpez rip'ing them ?
[06:30] <elpez> sorry... this person says his kubuntu mounts data cds alright.. but with audio its just random
[06:30] <elpez> sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt
[06:31] <DaSKreech> sometimes it mounts sometimes not?
[06:31] <elpez> no.. not ripping
[06:31] <elpez> yes... just playing.. but he cant
[06:31] <hayami> someone here knows how to use xmame?
[06:31] <intelikey> elpez you don't mount audio CD's
[06:31] <intelikey> elpez oh  ok.
[06:31] <elpez> perhaps i used the wrong word then...
[06:32] <word> there's only one of me :-/
[06:32] <elpez> he wants to listen to them... but his kde doesnt recognize them
[06:32] <kubuntunewbie> is mounting a USB hard drive hard?
[06:32] <intelikey> elpez never had any problem playing cd's   but you could check that he is in the cdrom/audio/disk  groups
[06:32] <elpez> intelikey: wuth he you mean the user?
[06:33] <intelikey> kubuntunewbie no.    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk     but ntfs is a pain imo.
[06:33] <intelikey> elpez yes the user account in question
[06:34] <elpez> elpez.. ok i'll translate that for him back in kubuntu-es
[06:34] <kubuntunewbie> okay, it is ntfs so its going to be a pain
[06:35] <NickPresta> !ntfs-3g | kubuntunewbie
[06:35] <ubotu> kubuntunewbie: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:36] <kubuntunewbie> is there a verson of AIM for linux?
[06:36] <elpez> intelikey: sorry for the noobness but... how do you check if the user is in that group?
[06:36] <NickPresta> pidgin/kopete work well, kubuntunewbie
[06:36] <intelikey> have the user type; groups
[06:36] <kubuntunewbie> i hate kopete so far, is pidgin better?
[06:37] <LinuxReign> its just a matter of taste
[06:37] <intelikey> it's "gaim"
[06:37] <JustRob> I love pidgin myself
[06:37] <intelikey> it's "gaim"
[06:37] <kubuntunewbie> oh great
[06:37] <kubuntunewbie> im geting it, thx
[06:37] <intelikey> only the name has changed
[06:37] <kubuntunewbie> !pidgin
[06:37] <LinuxReign> have u guys tried Gutsy?
[06:38] <kubuntunewbie> !info pidgin
[06:38] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[06:38] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:38] <elpez> intelikey: thx
[06:38] <intelikey> np
[06:38] <carbonfreeze> pidgin is nice, like using finch on my zaurus
[06:38] <kubuntunewbie> I would like to kill AOL
[06:40] <kubuntunewbie> i just sudo apt-get install pidgin but it told me that it couldn't find package pidgin
[06:40] <kubuntunewbie> am i doing something wrong?
[06:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's because the package doesn't exist in feisty
[06:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's still gaim in feisty's repos for now
[06:40] <LinuxReign> not really, i thonk is not on the repos
[06:40] <kubuntunewbie> does that mean it wont work with fiesty?
[06:40] <klobster> DaSKreech: it was ktorrent
[06:41] <LinuxReign> u need to type gaim instead of pidgin
[06:41] <NickPresta> I should've been verbose. You use gaim from the repos right now. Or, you can get a custom/unsupported deb from getdeb.com/
[06:41] <kubuntunewbie> but it will work fine with FF?
[06:41] <LinuxReign> yes indeed
[06:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> why wouldn't it?
[06:41] <DaSKreech> klobster: sorry?
[06:41] <klobster> DaSKreech: my memory hog
[06:42] <DaSKreech> klobster: Oh right. What the heck are you downloading?
[06:42] <LinuxReign> lol
[06:42] <kubuntunewbie> one thing i loved about windows was that i could see how many packets i had sent/recvd since being connected to the network.  Is there a way to see that in kubuntu?
[06:42] <klobster> DaSKreech: nothing, it has been running since I downloaded the 4400 last week
[06:42] <LinuxReign> install knetstats
[06:42] <carbonfreeze> ifconfig
[06:43] <kubuntunewbie> ty LinuxReign
[06:43] <LinuxReign> no worries
[06:43] <DaSKreech> klobster: Did you see yesterdays?
[06:43] <LinuxReign> thats why we are here
[06:43] <kubuntunewbie> well in the 3 days ive been using linux everyone in this channel has been great
[06:43] <kubuntunewbie> i thank everyone.
[06:43] <LinuxReign> :P
[06:43] <kubuntunewbie> ive learned a lot but im still a big noob
[06:43] <LinuxReign> hahaha
[06:43] <LinuxReign> we all are
[06:43] <klobster> DaSKreech: yeah, it was pretty good.  I like where they are going with the marked
[06:44] <intelikey> not me,   i'll never be a noob again.   it's too expansive,
[06:44] <LinuxReign> lol
[06:45] <qontras> hi
[06:45] <LinuxReign> specially if u spend money on Vista
[06:45] <LinuxReign> waste money i must say
[06:45] <qontras> for ntfs what kinda program do I need
[06:45] <qontras> ?
[06:45] <NickPresta> goodnight guys.
[06:45] <kubuntunewbie> my dads new lappy came with vista..... yuck is all i can say
[06:45] <DaSKreech> klobster: funniest episode ever
[06:45] <DaSKreech>  steve jobs
[06:45] <qontras> kubuntunewbie: destroy vista and install linux
[06:45] <DaSKreech> Yeah check if he has promicin
[06:45] <hayami> anyone here knows about xmame?
[06:45] <hayami> please help
[06:45] <qontras> ok why isn't NTFS mounting automatically?
[06:45] <LinuxReign> qontras, the easy way is by installing Automatix
[06:46] <klobster> DaSKreech: oh yeah, i forgot that part, the death threat. lol
[06:46] <kubuntunewbie> qontras: my dad would throw a shitfit, he would not even understand the first thing in linux
[06:46] <LinuxReign> u can start from there
[06:46] <kubuntunewbie> qontras: its not my computer, i dont have to deal with it ;)
[06:48] (qontras/#kubuntu) NTFS please how on earth may I monut this shit
[06:48] (hayami/#kubuntu) lirc disabled
[06:48] (intelikey/#kubuntu) !ntfs-3g | qontras
[06:48] (ubotu/#kubuntu) qontras: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:48] (hayami/#kubuntu) sfix.sfx NOT FOUND
[06:49] (hayami/#kubuntu) SP-S2.SP1 NOT FOUND and a lot of problems like that
[06:49] (hayami/#kubuntu) what should i do?
[06:49] <intelikey> install ntfs-3g and   mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<*> /media/<*>       interpret <>
[06:50] <DaSKreech> hayami: does it need lirc?
[06:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, this is something i didn't really want to do, but...
[06:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> currently installing XP in vmware :(
[06:50] <hayami> i don't really know what is that :S i'm new here man
[06:50] <intelikey> daisuke    uh
[06:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> !language | qontras
[06:50] <ubotu> qontras: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:51] <LinuxReign> why in the name of God u want to install XP?, j/k
[06:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> intelikey: unless you know where i can get jbuilder foundation for linux.
[06:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> correction, jbuilder 2005 foundation
[06:51] <intelikey> ah     well       ah...
[06:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh it's not for my own enjoyment, it's required for my cs class this semester
[06:52] <LinuxReign> i was kidding :P
[06:52] <intelikey> figures.  cs can't function without M$   and there is a reason for that...
[06:53] <LinuxReign> why dont u use VirtualBox its easier
[06:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> because...  vmware's already set up?
[06:53] <LinuxReign> humm ok
[06:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> intelikey: they're actually getting better
[06:53] <intelikey> any sciense would be 'ignorance' if it ignored the largest section of it's field
[06:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> they're moving to jbuilder 2007 (possibly during this semester) which is based on eclipse
[06:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> so yay! linux version
[06:54] <intelikey> so i understand the basics   just don't like it...
[06:54] <LinuxReign> :)
[06:54] <intelikey> oh that's good
[06:56] <intelikey> i'm going    gooday and good luck on your pinguin
[06:56] <s1r4t> what can i type to zip a folder and all of it's contents in the terminal?
[06:56] <jhon> hola
[06:56] <s1r4t> i'm doing : $ zip file.zip folder/*
[06:56] <intelikey> tar -czf filename.tgz  /what/ever/you/want/zipped
[06:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> and last semester they had this arcane script that fudged a wpa_supplicant.conf to get onto the campus network (and on windows you had to use this horrible oddyssey client that wouldn't let you connect to your home network after you installed it), but they've revamped their network, so networkmanager handles it beautifully
[06:56] <s1r4t> but the zip has empty folders
[06:57] <s1r4t> i'm missing the -czf ?
[06:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> s1r4t: recurse, recurse, recurse
[06:57] <elpez> how can i change permissions on audiocd:/ ? My translate friend gets this error saying check permission to acces
[06:57] <elpez> how can i change permissions on audiocd:/ ? My translate friend gets this error saying check permission to "access audiocd:/"?
[06:58] <elpez> perhaps its not the same as cdrom?
[06:58] <elpez> (sorry for reposting... but i hit enter accidentally)
[06:58] <elpez> not the same as media/cdrom ?
[07:00] <kubuntunewbie> okay so i installed knetstats and i got it running but how do i tell kubuntu that i want it to run whenever i run my computer so like have it run when i boot my computer up?
[07:04] <DaSKreech> elpez: Whats s/he trying to do?
[07:05] <elpez> DaSkreech: eject the cd using the right click command from kde
[07:05] <kubuntunewbie> okay so i installed knetstats and i got it running but how do i tell kubuntu that i want it to run whenever i run my computer so like have it run when i boot my computer up?
[07:05] <elpez> because now he can play cds... so big thankyou, intelikey
[07:05] <DaSKreech> elpez: can they type eject from the command line?
[07:06] <sanzanric> is it possible to upgrade from 32bit feisty to 64bit gusty?
[07:07] <elpez> DaSkreech: works correctly from command line
[07:09] <qontras> hi no luck with NTFS
[07:10] <qontras> wussup with it?
[07:11] <qontras> !samba
[07:11] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:11] <sanzanric> qontras: what type of problems are you having?
[07:11] <qontras> is mounting with root permissions
[07:11] <qontras> well is not automounting in the first place
[07:11] <qontras> then when I try to change the premission
[07:12] <qontras> it reverts to root
[07:12] <qontras> and I can't even open the directory
[07:12] <kubuntunewbie> !info pidgin
[07:12] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:12] <sanzanric> are you using ntfs-3g?
[07:12] <kubuntunewbie> can someone help me install pidgin from the source code?
[07:12] <qontras> sanzanric: yes
[07:12] <sanzanric> just get it from getdeb.net
[07:14] <sanzanric> http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=pidgin
[07:14] <qontras> sanzanric: who me?
[07:14] <qontras> oh
[07:14] <qontras> oh my god
[07:14] <qontras> this is giving me a huge hard time
[07:14] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: do i need to create a login name?
[07:15] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: and also, what makes it diff from downloading it from getdeb or from pidgin.net
[07:15] <kubuntunewbie> pidgin.im
[07:16] <jhon> hi alla
[07:16] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: no you don't need a login name, getdeb has pre-built debs, pidgin.im doesn't
[07:16] <sanzanric> back to qontras
[07:17] <Meowmixiscoo> Hi. Can anyone point me to information that might be useful to someone who is thinking of switching to Kubuntu?
[07:19] <elpez> i think the best info in that sense is a livecd....
[07:19] <sanzanric> ok qontras, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G -the parts you don't understand, come back here and ask
[07:19] <DaSKreech> Meowmixiscoo: from?
[07:19] <Meowmixiscoo> DaSKreech, Windows XP and Vista.
[07:20] <sanzanric> qontras the main thing to do is edit your /etc/fstab
[07:20] <Meowmixiscoo> I'm waiting on a cd, I just want to look up more info and be sure I'm as prepared as I can be.
[07:21] <DaSKreech> Meowmixiscoo: You won't be prepared enough :)
[07:21] <DaSKreech> Meowmixiscoo: I think the first thing is to make sure your hardware will work and after that just remember that Linux is not Windows and will never be
[07:22] <DaSKreech> !webcam
[07:22] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:24] <kubuntunewbie> Meowmixiscoo: why are you waiting on a CD? it is an easy download/install and you do not even have to install it in order to try it out.  You can boot directly from CD with no commitment.
[07:26] <Meowmixiscoo> kubuntunewbie, No CD burner on my laptop and my desktop cant connect to the internet atm. Windows refuses to detect my ethernet port.
[07:26] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie
[07:27] <kubuntunewbie> Meowmixiscoo: ahh yes, your in quite the bind ;)
[07:28] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: pidgin?
[07:28] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: yes, can u help me
[07:28] <sanzanric> sure
[07:28] <kubuntunewbie> i downloaded the deb file
[07:28] <kubuntunewbie> where do i go from here?
[07:28] <sanzanric> right click it
[07:28] <kubuntunewbie> install package ;)?
[07:29] <sanzanric> yes
[07:29] <kubuntunewbie> haha that was a lot more simple then i thought
[07:29] <sanzanric> difficult, eh?
[07:30] <kubuntunewbie> i was all like, loading adept manager and trying to add it to repositories
[07:30] <kubuntunewbie> im a huge noob
[07:30] <sanzanric> hey, you have to start somewhere.
[07:31] <canllaith> Hi - can anyone in here tell me what exactly to install to get a KDE4 session in kubuntu fiesty? :) the packages are there, but I can't seem to get a session in the login manager
[07:31] <canllaith> (if there is a session package at all)
[07:32] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: if you do want to install something from source, it's really not that hard
[07:32] <kubuntunewbie> okay so i installed knetstats and i got it running but how do i tell kubuntu that i want it to run whenever i run my computer so like have it run when i boot my computer up?
[07:33] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: the install package thing is telling me ...
[07:33] <adeeb> how can i play  rm &ram music file ?
[07:33] <kubuntunewbie> errors were encountered while trying to install pidgin
[07:33] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: so it wont even let me do that
[07:33] <DaSKreech> !real
[07:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:34] <adeeb> i can't install real plear   why ?
[07:35] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: are you ruuning 32bit feisty or 64bit feisty
[07:35] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: 32
[07:35] <canllaith> DaSKreech: hey you :)
[07:35] <adeeb> 64
[07:35] <canllaith> DaSKreech: can you tell me how to install KDE4 kubuntu? :)
[07:35] <DaSKreech> canllaith: Isnt it on the website?
[07:36] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie and you downloaded the correct package?
[07:36] <canllaith> DaSKreech: maybe!
[07:36] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: yes
[07:36] <canllaith> DaSKreech: kubuntu.org is down at the moment
[07:36] <DaSKreech> oh
[07:36] <adeeb> give me correct package link please
[07:37] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php canllaith try it agian. worksforme
[07:38] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: ok, open up a Konsole, and spell out "sudo apt-get install gdebi"
[07:38] <canllaith> ahhh Jucato awesome
[07:38] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: geting it now
[07:39] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: done
[07:39] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: wait no it did not work, it said unmet dependencies try apt-get - f install
[07:39] <sanzanric> ok, try that
[07:40] <sanzanric> what dir is the deb in?
[07:40] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: on my desktop
[07:40] <sanzanric> hell, lets just build this from source.
[07:40] <adeeb> ok
[07:41] <adeeb> thanks man
[07:41] <sanzanric> Kubuntunewbie, konsole - sudo apt-get build-deb gaim
[07:42] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: i dont want gaim, i want the new ver of pidgin
[07:42] <adeeb> also i have problem in talker
[07:42] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: i had gaim and wanted to upgrade
[07:42] <canllaith> kubuntunewbie: sanzanric 's method is correct, the dependancies for pidgin and gaim are the same
[07:42] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: i am installing that gdebi now
[07:42] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: there dependendcies are the same
[07:43] <kubuntunewbie> what does that mean "the dependancies are the same?"
[07:43] <Maksyari4> fuck .... trouble trouble ..... use Windows stupid arrrrrrrrrr
[07:44] <kubuntunewbie> E: Invalid operation build-deb
[07:44] <canllaith> kubuntunewbie: try build-dep instead
[07:45] <kubuntunewbie> thanks that worked, but can someone explain what that just did?
[07:45] <kubuntunewbie> and what do i do next?
[07:45] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: dependencies are something a program relies on in order to run
[07:45] <sanzanric> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pidgin/pidgin-2.1.1.tar.bz2 -download
[07:46] <canllaith> kubuntunewbie: in order to compile from source, you need certain development packages installed. Becuase pidgin is just a newer version of gaim, you can take advantage of the fact that gaim is already in the ubuntu packaging system to install everything you need to compile pidgin that way
[07:46] <kubuntunewbie> 168 MB of dependencies?
[07:46] <Chousuke> probably all the dev packages.
[07:46] <Jucato> !pidgin
[07:46] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[07:46] <kubuntunewbie> canllaith: ahh i get it thanks.
[07:46] <Chousuke> Why do people always want the latest and greatest?
 do you talk to me ??????????????????/
[07:47] <Q-collective> is there a kde app that can scan, configure and use wireless networks automagically? KNetworkManager is lacking in this imho.
[07:47] <Chousuke> Are you not satisfied with software that works?
[07:47] <Chousuke> Or is there something broken in Feisty's GAIM?
[07:47] <kubuntunewbie> ummm, it is asking me..........
[07:47] <Meowmixiscoo> Chousuke, never.
[07:47] <canllaith> Chousuke: well actually, Gaim doesn't work for me. Pidgin has more robust support for the stupid proprietary protocol I have to use at work.
[07:47] <kubuntunewbie>  'Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)'
[07:47] <kubuntunewbie> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
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[07:47] <Chousuke> Well, that would be a valid reason.
[07:48] <adeeb> what ??????????
[07:48] <adeeb> [08:47]  <Maksyari4> <adeeb>         
[07:48] <sanzanric> hum, do you have the cd?
[07:48] <Q-collective> adeeb: he's teasing you, just ignore him
[07:48] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: hahaha, i dont even have a CD rom drive ;)
[07:48] <Chousuke> kubuntunewbie: you could remove the CD from your sources list.
[07:49] <adeeb> hummmmm
[07:49] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: i used the power supply of 1 computer to power the cd rom drive so i could install it on the second computer
[07:49] <Chousuke> I don't know where you edit software sources in KDE, but...
[07:49] <sanzanric> nice
[07:49] <canllaith> You can manually edit sources.list
[07:49] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: totally ghetto rigged
[07:49] <Chousuke> that works too
[07:49] <Q-collective> Chousuke: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:49] <canllaith> vi /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the two lines at the very top with 'cd' in them
[07:49] <kubuntunewbie> canllaith: how do i edit the sources list?
[07:49] <Chousuke> Q-collective: I was asking the GUI way
[07:49] <sanzanric> kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:49] <Q-collective> hehe
[07:49] <Chousuke> Q-collective: the command line isn't KDE :P
[07:49] <canllaith> oh, maybe not so much with the vi
[07:50] <sanzanric> sudo
[07:50] <sanzanric> sudo kate
[07:50] <Chousuke> kdesu kate
[07:50] <Chousuke> not sudo
[07:50] <Q-collective> Chousuke: sure, just write that down in the alt-f2 runner ;p
[07:51] <sanzanric> yes last i checked the runner is part of kde, and konsole is too
[07:51] <Q-collective> at any rate, could anyone hep\lp me out?
[07:51] <Q-collective> help*
[07:51] <elpez> chousuke: adept can do that... adept menu>manage repositories>third party software
[07:51] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: what do i do now? am i shit outta luck?
[07:51] <sanzanric> what? no.
[07:52] <sanzanric> ok, best if we bring this to a private con
[07:52] <canllaith> kubuntunewbie: hit 'alt f2' to get a 'run command' box, then type 'kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:52] <Chousuke> elpez: right.
[07:52] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: well i dont have a way to get the CD unless i totally tear apart the other computer to steal its power supply
[07:52] <canllaith> kubuntunewbie: It will ask you for your password and then open the file for editing
[07:52] <canllaith> kubuntunewbie: then you can remove the CD rom drive from it's configuration and it will be happy to use only the internet to install packages
[07:53] <kubuntunewbie> sources.list not found.
[07:53] <canllaith> are you sure you typed it exactly ?
[07:53] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: its to much here,
[07:54] <kubuntunewbie> no, i fixed it
[07:54] <kubuntunewbie> but now nothing is happening
[07:54] <kubuntunewbie> oh wait, there it is
[07:54] <kubuntunewbie> slow computer
[07:55] <kubuntunewbie> its up now
[07:55] <sanzanric> post it all
[07:56] <kubuntunewbie> post everything in there?
[07:56] <sanzanric> no
[07:57] <kubuntunewbie> do i delete the line that says... deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)] / feisty main restricted
[07:57] <sanzanric> no just put a # in front of it
[07:57] <kubuntunewbie> then save it and get out?
[07:57] <sanzanric> yes
[07:58] <kubuntunewbie> good deal
[07:58] <kubuntunewbie> now what do i type in konsole?
[07:58] <sanzanric> just hit the up key
[07:58] <kubuntunewbie> to get the compile program?
[07:58] <sanzanric> you still need to install the deps
[07:59] <kubuntunewbie> its telling me that there is another process usingit
[07:59] <kubuntunewbie> but i dont think there is
[08:00] <canllaith> yay thanks Jucato KDE4 :)
[08:00] <Jucato> no prob :)
[08:00] <DaSKreech> !ricoh
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ricoh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <DaSKreech> damn
[08:01] <nixternal> !language > DaSKreech
[08:01] <nixternal> ;p
[08:01] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: it is telling me that another process is using it? but i dont think thats right
[08:01] <kubuntunewbie> sanzanric: what should i do?
[08:01] <Q-collective> ah, wlassistant is looking promising
[08:01] <Q-collective> :)
[08:01] <DaSKreech> frankly my dear....
[08:01] <nixternal> hahha
[08:01] <canllaith> wow, konsole is pretty darn nice
[08:02] <Q-collective> canllaith: it sure is
[08:02] <nixternal> canllaith: the kde4 konsole? ya, I use it all of the time now
[08:02] <Q-collective> what's new with konsole4?
[08:02] <Jucato> split views :)
[08:02] <hayami__> what is kde4?
[08:02] <Jucato> !kde4
[08:02] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Alpha 2 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php>.
[08:02] <canllaith> although I think I broke krunner already
[08:03] <nixternal> canllaith: the krunner in the kubuntu packages does not work, at least it hasn't for me
[08:03] <nixternal> works like a charm in my svn build though
[08:03] <canllaith> nixternal: it ran for me once :P
[08:03] <canllaith> I think I shall have to build SVN
[08:03] <nixternal> ahh, I don't think it ever ran for me
[08:03] <kubuntunewbie> canllaith: hey, when i did sudo apt-get build dep-gaim and it asked me to put the cd in i quit konsole and now that i updated the sources.list it is telling me that it cant lock the administration directory is another process using it? am i doing something wrong? do i need to quit something?
[08:03] <nixternal> canllaith: wait a couple of days for some stuff to level out
[08:03] <canllaith> nixternal: yo, I'm a developer
[08:03] <nixternal> I just rebuilt from svn today, and there are some broken things yet
[08:03] <canllaith> and have been for 3 years.
[08:03] <nixternal> oh ya
[08:03] <nixternal> derr
[08:03] <canllaith> :)
[08:03] <nixternal> I knew your name looked familiar
[08:04] <canllaith> kubuntunewbie: is the graphical install/update applet open ?
[08:04] <kubuntunewbie> canllaith: no it is not
[08:05] <canllaith> oh golly the oxygen style is.. different
[08:06] <canllaith> nixternal: do you know if there's an oxygen window style yet ?
[08:06] <hayami__> is kde4 finished?
[08:08] <kubuntunewbie> canllaith: im going to reboot
[08:08] <canllaith> kubuntunewbie: can't hurt
[08:08] <t4m1n0> helo
[08:09] <t4m1n0> A dock-like bar which sits at the bottom of the screen tracking open windows. It requires a compositor to be running, or it will not display properly. Has stcks feature, like in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. This is a note for installing Avant WIndow Navigator (AWN) I've installed all required packages and I also have avn icon in system settings. Just don't know why it won't start? maybe becouse of compositor? and if where can I get or what 
[08:13] <hayami__> i lost the folder desktop that was in my home
[08:14] <hayami__> how do i put it back?
[08:15] <hayami__> help
[08:15] <hayami__> how do i put my Desktop folder back?
[08:15] <Jucato> try to go to the Trash and see if it's there
[08:16] <Jucato> where there files/items on your desktop?
[08:16] <DaSKreech> How did you delete it?
[08:16] <Jucato> presuming that's how he "lost" it...
[08:16] <hayami__> i don't even remember
[08:17] <hayami__> is not at the trash
[08:17] <hayami__> now what should i do?
[08:17] <Jucato> where there files/items on your desktop? if not, just create a folder named "Desktop"
[08:18] <hayami__> i did, but, it is just like a common folder
[08:18] <hayami__> i started do download a video
[08:18] <hayami__> and it doesn't appear in the Desktop
[08:18] <hayami__> just in the folder
[08:20] <hayami__> so it doesn't have any solution? :(
[08:21] <Jucato> perhaps you would need to logout and log back in first
[08:21] <Jucato> not really sure. sorry
[08:21] <hayami__> thanks
[08:22] <intelikey> why doesn't this work ?   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39221
[08:22] <intelikey> bash'ism ???
[08:23] <intelikey> sh doesn't do arrays ?
[08:23] <intelikey> $ Q=(1 2 3)
[08:23] <intelikey> sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[08:24] <Murlis> hi there!
[08:24] <ubunturos> hi Murlis
[08:26] <dim> hello all, is it possible to make applications and other stuff in desktop 1 not to appear in other desktops? I couldn't find such an option in the system settings
[08:27] <Jucato> currently? no
[08:27] <Murlis> I'm kinda new to ubuntu and I installed ubuntu 7.04 as a server
[08:27] <dim> Jucato: so it is not possible to do so in kubuntu?
[08:27] <Murlis> I also wanted x windows for easier management (which is not, command line is still better :)
[08:28] <Jucato> not possible to do in KDE at all. not sure about GNOME
[08:28] <dim> Jucato: hmm, didn't notice that before
[08:28] <DaSKreech> What is he asking?
[08:28] <Murlis> and I installed KDE but I don't want it to start everytime I start server, I want to start it manualy
[08:28] <DaSKreech> dim: You mean on the taskbar?
[08:29] <dim> Jucato: but i remember I made the apps not to appear in other desktops when I used debian
[08:29] <dim> but not sure whether it was kde or gnome
[08:29] <Murlis> what needs to be edited in order not to launch xwindows on system startup?
[08:29] <Jucato> oh wait
[08:29] <intelikey> Murlis "x windows" ???
[08:29] <Jucato> sorry.. dim did you mean in the taskbar?
[08:29] <dim> DaSKreech: yes
[08:29] <Jucato> lol sorry that is indeed possible
[08:29] <Murlis> intelikey I mean kde
[08:30] <dim> Jucato: how? i couldn't find it in the settings
[08:30] <Jucato> dim: right-click on the panel -> COnfigure Panel -> Taskbar -> uncheck the "Show applications on all desktop"
[08:30] <intelikey> Murlis update-rc.d ?dm off
[08:30] <intelikey> or something like that    i just rm the link in /etc/rc2.d/???dm
[08:31] <dim> Jucato: :-) yes, it works thanks, gosh, i was just looking for it in the system settings -> Monitor and Display
[08:32] <intelikey> ya don' wan' a display manager, ya don' gotta have one.
[08:34] <Murlis> intelikey thanks, I will try to find that file
[08:35] <DaSKreech> !find ricoh
[08:35] <ubotu> Package/file ricoh does not exist in feisty
[08:35] <DaSKreech> bloody ell
[08:37] <Menda> hi
[08:38] <DaSKreech> hi
[08:42] <Murlis> intelikey do you know the location of rc.d?
[08:43] <Murlis> join #ubuntu
[08:43] <Murlis> :)
[08:43] <Murlis> does anyone know how to prevent x windows from loading in system startup?
[08:44] <DaSKreech> Neva!!!!
[08:44] <DaSKreech> Murlis: take your Dm out of the startup sequence?
[08:45] <Murlis> DaSKreech yes, prevent kde from loading on system startup, I want to launch it manually
[08:46] <DaSKreech> Murlis: take out your DM
[08:47] <Murlis> take it our from where?
[08:48] <Murlis> thats what I'm missing - what needs to be edited?
[08:49] <DaSKreech> alt+space -> system settings -> advanced -> System Services
[08:49] <kraut> moinm
[08:51] <Murlis> which runlevel I need to change?
[08:51] <DaSKreech> Umm
[08:51] <DaSKreech> 2 I think
[08:56] <Murlis> DaSKreech thanks! I changed the services startup at runlevel2 and now will reboot it
[08:56] <Murlis> let's see :)
[08:57] <DaSKreech> :)
[08:57] <Murlis> oh, shait!
[08:57] <Murlis> I see kubuntu logo.....
[08:58] <harolddong> dont we all mutlis
[08:58] <harolddong> indeed
[09:03] <Murlis> any ideas how to mount freebsd partition on ubuntu?
[09:03] <DaSKreech> What file system?
[09:04] <DaSKreech> in anycase it shoudl be sudo mount /dev/devicename /path/to/mountpoint
[09:05] <Murlis> I took that hdd from freebsd (yeah, I like to experiment) and want to mount in ubuntu
[09:06] <Murlis> how can I find out what fs it has?
[09:06] <GuHHH> does anyone knows where i can find drivers for motorola mot pci3?
[09:06] <DaSKreech> Murlis: Shouldn't matter mount should make a proper guess
[09:09] <Murlis> how to find out the dev name for that hdd?
[09:11] <DaSKreech> Murlis: It's going to be /dev/hdX#
[09:11] <DaSKreech> where X is a letter and # is a number
[09:11] <DaSKreech> might /dev/sdX#
[09:13] <Murlis> I don't see any hd* in dev folder
[09:13] <dim> hello All, i've just installed LAMP and when i try http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ and login, i get this error
[09:14] <dim> #1045 - Access denied for user 'dimash'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[09:14] <dim> why is phpmyadmin not letting me login?
[09:15] <dim> although i have installed all the recommended stuff
[09:15] <dim> apache2 mysql-server php5 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 phpmyadmin
[09:15] <Murlis> I see the hdd under /dev/disk/by-id
[09:16] <prohna> installing
[09:16] <prohna> anyone available for some quick questions?
[09:16] <Murlis> I see scsi-1ata_samsung_hd... etc
[09:18] <prohna> when i was first installing kubuntu
[09:18] <prohna> everytime it would finish
[09:18] <prohna> id get the missing operating system message on boot
[09:18] <prohna> i manually set up the partitions and now it starts to boot
[09:18] <prohna> then i get an error with pxe saying something about checking my cable
[09:19] <DaSKreech> Murlis: cool mount that
[09:19] <DaSKreech> prohna: what kinda drive?
[09:19] <Murlis> mount that long name?
[09:19] <prohna> not totally positive
[09:19] <prohna> labtop
[09:19] <prohna> compaq
[09:19] <prohna> kinda crappy
[09:20] <DaSKreech> prohna: Hmm
[09:20] <DaSKreech> might be a grub issue
[09:20] <DaSKreech> !grub | prohna
[09:20] <ubotu> prohna: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:20] <DaSKreech> !tab | Murlis
[09:20] <ubotu> Murlis: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:20] <prohna> nice bot
[09:21] <prohna> i have a feeling it may be grub from google searches
[09:21] <prohna> im not trying to keep windows
[09:22] <prohna> wanted to get rid of windows actually
[09:22] <DaSKreech> prohna: that site should help
[09:23] <prohna> is this common?
[09:24] <DaSKreech> enough :)
[09:26] <Murlis> DaSKreech it can't find the fs type, ends with error
[09:27] <DaSKreech> Murlis: Hmm
[09:27] <prohna> hmm i can get into the bios fine
[09:27] <DaSKreech> Murlis: Is it Sata?
[09:27] <franz_> anybody knows how to configure  VPN in kubuntu ( see http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084844.0 )
[09:28] <Murlis> no, its pata
[09:28] <franz_> my thread has been there since last month, but still no reply to it
[09:28] <DaSKreech> Murlis: and you have no /dev/hda1 devices?
[09:28] <DaSKreech> !vpn
[09:28] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[09:29] <prohna> pxe media boot failure
[09:29] <prohna> check cable
[09:29] <prohna> then it says operating system not found
[09:29] <franz_> DaSKreech, thanks. i'll try that
[09:31] <prohna> pxe-e61
[09:32] <Murlis> DaSKreech no, I don't
[09:32] <code_x> hello, can someone help me? everytime i run a program that uses X from the command line i always get the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35344/
[09:32] <Murlis> I have sdb1 for external usb drive
[09:33] <DaSKreech> Jucato: can you step in?
[09:33] <code_x> anyhelp will be greatly appreciated
[09:33] <DaSKreech> !baddevice
[09:33] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[09:33] <Jucato> sorry, writing mails. were you too busy in #kde? :)
[09:33] <Jucato> code_x: you can safely ignore those erros
[09:34] <DaSKreech> no I'm about to collapse
[09:34] <Jucato> errors
[09:34] <DaSKreech>  In eed ot sleep
[09:34] <code_x> thanks
[09:34] <Jucato> code_x: as long as the app launches fine, no need to worry.
[09:34] <DaSKreech> prohna: can't boot and Murlis needs to get rid of KDE on start up and mount a freeBSD drive
[09:35] <Murlis> DaSKreech :)
[09:35] <DaSKreech> Oh that was at Jucato btw :)
[09:36] <Murlis> DaSKreech thanks, kde issue is solved, now only freebsd disk
[09:36] <Jucato> no idea... :(
[09:36] <prohna> could it be the default grub placing?
[09:36] <prohna> i left it at hd0 when i installed
[09:36] <Jucato> prohna: Operating System not found?
[09:37] <prohna> yes
[09:37] <Jucato> most probably it can't find the linux kernel image that GRUB is supposed to be pointing to...
[09:37] <prohna> and im wicked new at this
[09:37] <Jucato> where is Kubuntu installed? which drive and which partition?
[09:37] <prohna> only one drive
[09:38] <Jucato> btw, you are able to get to the GRUB menu, right?
[09:38] <prohna> bios?
[09:38] <prohna> yes
[09:38] <Jucato> no not the bios. the menu where you get to choose Ubuntu from a list?
[09:38] <prohna> no
[09:38] <Jucato> hmm...
[09:38] <prohna> it gets as far as pxe
[09:39] <Jucato> ouch... more complicated that I can handle right now... :/
[09:39] <prohna> heh
[09:39] <Jucato> where did you install kubuntu? you only have one hard drive?
[09:39] <DaSKreech> Jucato: I don't think it's a Pxe boot
[09:39] <prohna> it says media test failure
[09:39] <prohna> pxe-e61
[09:39] <DaSKreech>  I think that it should pass pxe and boot from HDD
[09:39] <Jucato> er sorry... I actually don't know what pxe is heheh
[09:39] <prohna> then it says operating system not found
[09:40] <DaSKreech> if not then he should probably change that in BIOS
[09:40] <prohna> bios is set up to cdrom, hd, floppy
[09:40] <Jucato> prohna: in your BIOS settings, have you set it to boot from your hard disk first?
[09:40] <Jucato> er... is the cdrom empty?
[09:41] <prohna> yes
[09:41] <Murlis> prohna how big is your hdd?
[09:41] <DaSKreech> prohna: can I be clear on one thing? you have installed Kubuntu already and are rebooting to get back into it from the hard drive?
[09:41] <prohna> 40gb
[09:41] <prohna> yes
[09:41] <prohna> installed
[09:41] <DaSKreech> ok
[09:41] <prohna> the original prob was after intall
[09:41] <prohna> itd say remove disc
[09:41] <prohna> blah blah
[09:41] <prohna> then it would shut down
[09:42] <prohna> when id boot
[09:42] <prohna> right away i get operating system missing
[09:42] <prohna> i tried reinstalling manually setting up the partitions
[09:42] <prohna> and i get further to pxe error
[09:42] <DaSKreech> Jucato: Run a check through the BIOS to make sure it's picking up the HDD and then make sure it's first or second in boot order
[09:43] <prohna> heh
[09:43] <franz_> !raspi
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raspi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <DaSKreech> Jucato: is it a wedding proposal?
[09:44] <Jucato> lol no :)
[09:44] <Jucato> a letter to our LoCo team
[09:44] <mecannotread> guys i have  game  fileblahblah-1234.tar.bz2 but  i dont know how to install, tell me please
[09:45] <DaSKreech> mecannotread: what's the name of the game?
[09:45] <mecannotread> tank and thunder
[09:45] <DaSKreech> ok
[09:45] <DaSKreech> !b-e | mecannotread
[09:45] <ubotu> mecannotread: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:45] <prohna> bios test sees hdd fine
[09:45] <DaSKreech> There should be a README and a INSTALL in the tarball
[09:46] <Murlis> so any ideas about mounting freebsd drive under ubuntu?
[09:46] <mecannotread> ubotu, ok thanks for the link
[09:46] <DaSKreech> mecannotread: I'm gonna assume it needs you to compile so you need that link
[09:46] <DaSKreech> read thsoe two files and follow the instructons
[09:46] <prohna> GO TO BED daskreech
[09:47] <ether> hello
[09:47] <carbonfreeze> anyone running 7.10 tribe4+?
[09:47] <DaSKreech> carbonfreeze: Please ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:47] <Murlis> DaSKreech good night! :) And thanks for your help!
[09:47] <carbonfreeze> DaSKreech: thanks
[09:47] <DaSKreech> Murlis: come tomorrow we will sort it out
[09:48] <ether> I remember hearing that there is a way to wipe out all kde settings and revert to the original kubuntu themes n' stuff, is this possible? which files do I delete?
[09:48] <Murlis> tomorow will be too late :( Oki, I will search once more google
[09:51] <prohna> so jucato you think its grub?
[09:52] <prohna> or maybe i installed wrong
[09:52] <Jucato> that's only one possibility
[09:52] <Jucato> that's the other one :)
[09:52] <prohna> heh
[09:52] <prohna> in the install does it install grub?
[09:52] <prohna> and maybe im putting it in the wrong place?
[09:53] <prohna> like what partition setting should i choose
[09:53] <franz_> DaSKreech, sorry, but i don't think it's what im looking for
[09:59] <prohna> anyone else have suggestions on how they installed kubuntu?
[10:02] <adenicio> how do i check to see if my webcam workin
[10:02] <adenicio> ?
[10:04] <adenicio> how do i check to see if my webcam workin
[10:04] <adenicio> how do i check to see if my webcam workin
[10:14] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Is it making any money?
[10:14] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Usually, you ask to see a pay stub or something, completed timesheet, whatever.
[10:15] <adenicio> what?
[10:17] <adenicio> i just install compiz im not seing it
[10:17] <prohna> hah
[10:17] <_4strO> hi there
[10:17] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Ok, don't confuse compiz with seeing your webcam.
[10:18] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Ordinarily, if it's a true webcam, you'd just point your browser at it's IP address and you'd see the video.
[10:18] <jhutchins_lt> Otherwise, you might need to set it up as a direct input video device in kubuntu.
[10:19] <jhutchins_lt> Since most people call those "webcams", after the fact that they were originally used to put video on the web, we have this:
[10:19] <jhutchins_lt> !webcam | adenicio
[10:19] <ubotu> adenicio: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:22] <yannick_> au secours !!!!
[10:22] <yannick_> j arrive pas  installer amsn sur ce putain de Kubuntu
[10:22] <Jucato> !fr | yannick_
[10:22] <ubotu> yannick_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:23] <yannick_> merci
[10:23] <Phantom_DE> hello
[10:23] <yannick_> hello
[10:24] <Phantom_DE> i need a xorg.conf for a logitech mx700
[10:24] <adenicio> wow everything freez up when i try to run the 3D thing
[10:25] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Yep.
[10:26] <jhutchins_lt> yannick_: There are other programs that work with msn, like kopete and pidgin
[10:26] <adenicio> jhutchins_lt: i do i find out my ip for my web cam?
[10:27] <t4m1n0> what GNU letters means?
[10:27] <adenicio> im going to install beryl im not seing compiz
[10:27] <waylandbill> gnu's not unix
[10:27] <_4strO> t4m1n0: google is your friend ...
[10:27] <Jucato> GNU  = GNU's Not Unix (recursive acronym)
[10:28] <Jucato> !gnu
[10:28] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[10:28] <adenicio> lol
[10:28] <Jucato> oooh there ^^^
[10:28] <t4m1n0> tnx Jucato
[10:28] <waylandbill> Hi Jucato. I'm off to work, so I have to say bye at the same time. :-)
[10:28] <Jucato> hahha ok
[10:28] <Jucato> I'm off too. see you later (after your work)
[10:28] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: How is it connected?
[10:29] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Network cable?
[10:29] <adenicio> usb
[10:29] <jhutchins_lt> Ok, it's not a true web cam and doesn't have an IP address then.
[10:29] <adenicio> true webcam lol
[10:30] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: You'll need to read the documentation on that link I sent you, because different cams requre different procedures, and I don't have your cam.
[10:30] <adenicio> wat do u mean true?
[10:30] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: (I have one that doesn't work.)
[10:30] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: A true "Web Cam" connects with a network cable and "contains" a web server.
[10:30] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Most cams need a PC to make them a real webcam.
[10:31] <adenicio> send me back the link stp i couldnt click on it becaus the 3d thing freez up everything
[10:31] <jhutchins_lt> !webcam | adenicio
[10:31] <ubotu> adenicio: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:31] <jhutchins_lt> http://randycam.com - one of the original webcams.
[10:34] <jhutchins_lt> N'mind, randycam isn't a cam any more.
[10:38] <adenicio> jhutchins_lt: how do i aply for them with emerald?
[10:38] <adenicio> themes
[10:39] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Dunno, emerald/beryl/compiz is in #ubuntu-effects
[10:41] <adenicio> jhutchins_lt: is there i list of graphic card compatible with linux for the 3d desktop?
[10:42] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: The problem is that it changes from day to day.
[10:42] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: 3d isn't stable yet, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  For some setups, it always works, for others never.
[10:42] <adenicio> meanin?
[10:42] <adenicio> lol
[10:43] <jhutchins_lt> You have two choices:  3d, and play with making it work, or 2d and get work done.
[10:43] <adenicio> i dont have a ati or nvidea but i hopoe it works for mine
[10:44] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: What do you have?
[10:44] <adenicio> via
[10:44] <jhutchins_lt> Probably not then.
[10:44] <adenicio> :-(
[10:45] <jhutchins_lt> It's mostly nvidia, because nvidia worked with Novell on it.
[10:45] <adenicio> so nvidea is more comp?
[10:45] <adenicio> then ati's?
[10:46] <jhutchins_lt> Yes.  ATI does not do 3d well in Linux.
[10:46] <jhutchins_lt> SOME ati cards do ok, but most have driver problems.
[10:46] <jhutchins_lt> Most Nvidia cards can be made to work, but some also have problems.
[10:49] <adenicio> can u give me one thats works good with linux in alll
[10:49] <jhutchins_lt> No, I only work in 2d.
[10:49] <jhutchins_lt> Sorry.
[10:50] <jhutchins_lt> Again, check in #ubuntu-effects.
[10:53] <adenicio> jhutchins: can u give me another msn manager i dont like kotepe it goin crazy
[10:57] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Try pidgin
[10:59] <adenicio> jhutchins_lt: pidgin dont have it in adet
[10:59] <adenicio> adept
[11:03] <adenicio> ekiga
[11:04] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Try gaim
[11:04] <jhutchins_lt> pidgin is gaim renamed
[11:04] <jhutchins_lt> !info pidgin
[11:04] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:04] <jhutchins_lt> !info gaim
[11:04] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1700 kB, installed size 4808 kB
[11:04] <guille> Anyiudea how to make a Genius webcam to work?
[11:05] <guille> i've been trying for 2 days now
[11:05] <adenicio> lol
[11:18] <jhutchins_lt> !webcam | guille
[11:18] <ubotu> guille: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:18] <jhutchins_lt> It might not work with linux.
[11:18] <dhq> will an ipod work in linux
[11:18] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: Yes.
[11:18] <dhq> i wanna buy an ipod which one is good
[11:19] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: The blue one.
[11:19] <dhq> shuffle or nano
[11:19] <jhutchins_lt> Yes.
[11:19] <dhq> whats the diffrence
[11:19] <jhutchins_lt> http://www.apple.com
[11:19] <adenicio> lol
[11:20] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: Linux supports the basic iPod music database, and can treat most iPods as storage devices.
[11:20] <dhq> k
[11:20] <jhutchins_lt> Amarok is a collection manager, and it interfaces well with iPods, providing a iTunes-like system
[11:20] <jhutchins_lt> Other utilities exist for dealing with iPods and other players.
[11:21] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: If you just want a Linux compatible player, you can get more for your money without the iPod brand.
[11:22] <dhq> well i wanted an ipod choices are nano and shuffle but since my net is too slow cant load the pages please tell m e
[11:23] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: I can't.
[11:23] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: It's up to what you want.
[11:23] <dhq> ok thanks
[11:24] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: Shuffles will be cheaper.  They will have a different storage capacity, and will be a different size.
[11:24] <dhq> k
[11:24] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: OTher than that, shuffles are white, nanos come in color.
[11:24] <dhq> k
[11:24] <dhq> nano is small i guess
[11:24] <jhutchins_lt> Nano is a matchbook, shuffle is a pack of gum
[11:37] <guille> hi i got a simple question
[11:37] <guille> how do i change the order in what my GRUB comes up
[11:38] <guille> i amen i got kubuntu and then windos xp,
[11:38] <guille> but kubuntu is the first possibilyti and windows the secind how do i change the order?
[11:46] <tmske> guille: you can edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and change the order
[11:47] <tmske> make sure you make a backup first!
[11:51] <andrew_> what is a good server/channel for a python question?
[11:51] <Jucato> maybe there's ##python
[11:52] <blekos> hi, i've seen in Ubuntu Tribe 5, that there is a new management tool for output to another sceen (crt??)
[11:52] <blekos> is there smg similar in Kubuntu?
[11:52] <andrew_> hmm just 2 people that dont look like they are there
[11:53] <hnsn> #pyton
[11:53] <hnsn> oops
[11:53] <blekos> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe5
[11:53] <guille> well this is my second day in linux
[11:54] <guille> making a backup is it the same way as in windows?
[11:54] <hnsn> andrew_: #python maybe?
[11:54] <guille> copying the file to anotherplace?
[11:55] <andrew_> You need to be identified to join that channel
[11:55] <andrew_> ?
[11:55] <hnsn> andrew_: /msg nickserv hello
[11:55] <hnsn> or something
[11:56] <blekos> guile
[11:56] <guille> and how do i change that? i mean the grub order?
[11:56] <blekos> install simple backup
[11:56] <guille> in that file source.list?
[11:57] <blekos> go here for a good tutorial
[11:57] <blekos> http://www.debianadmin.com/backup-and-restore-your-ubuntu-system-using-sbackup.html
[11:57] <blekos> applies to KDE dont worry
[11:57] <guille> i guess i am gona keep using windows
[11:57] <blekos> just be sure to exclude /media
[11:57] <blekos> guille I'm still using Windows but Linux worths a shot
[11:58] <guille> well i want to use both, i admit linux works fine a lot better than windows
[11:58] <blekos> if you persist u'll see its only matter of beeing used to Linux differences
[11:58] <guille> but certain thigns just dont work
[11:58] <blekos> hmm, sad but true,
[11:58] <blekos> like what?
[11:58] <tmske> guille: backing up the sources.list is just copying the file
[11:59] <guille> i want my pc to boot directly to windows, i want to be asked if i wnat to boot on kubuntu no the other way around
[11:59] <Q-collective> hey all, if I put the kubuntu install cd in an asus z92r laptop with a radeon 200M, it doesn't do anything besides having a cursor blinking... Other distro's aren't doing much better, I've tried the Gentoo and Knoppix livecd's aswell but get a unresponsive black screen when trying to boot those... can anyone help me out?
[11:59] <blekos> backing up the sources list ensures that you'll be able to re-install the same software
[11:59] <guille> in linux my webcam is not suported nor is my printer
[11:59] <tmske> guille: and to change the order you just need to place the windows entry before the ubuntu entry
[11:59] <guille> shockwave is not adapted for linux either
[11:59] <guille> rmske how so i do that?
[12:00] <guille> i opened the file you told me "/etc/apt/sources.list" but there i dont see how to os anything the only i get is a list with several internet adresses
[12:00] <tmske> guille: internet adresses?
[12:00] <guille> i copy and paste what i get
[12:00] <tmske> use paste-it, not here
[12:01] <tmske> guille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:01] <Q-collective> anyone, please?
[12:01] <guille> i paste a little
[12:02] <Pocae> Hi All
[12:02] <guille> "
[12:02] <guille> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[12:02] <guille> # newer versions of the distribution.
[12:02] <guille> that is what it says ofourse the text is a lot larger that that but every row is some text and the an http adress
[12:03] <tmske> guille: open the link I have you and paste the file there.
[12:03] <Q-collective> are there known problems with booting from ati cards?
[12:04] <guille> hmm?
[12:04] <tmske> guille: my fault, it is the file: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:04] <tmske> that is the file you need to edit, sorry
[12:04] <Pocae> I toasted my new install of Kunbuntu trying to setup the nvidia drivers now i only get a _ in the upper left corner, is there a fix without uninstalling Kunbuntu and re-installing it?
[12:05] <guille> no problem i am gonna check that file
[12:05] <guille> oh shit
[12:05] <guille> what would happen if i make a mistake?
[12:05] <tmske> guille: make a copy of it first
[12:06] <guille> how do i copy?
[12:07] <guille> and by the way i tryed to write something but i could not
[12:07] <Pocae> ive read the online documentation butno luck so far
[12:07] <tmske> guille: you need to use sudo to open it.
[12:07] <tmske> Pocae: ctrl+alt+f1 brings you to a terminal, there you can replace your xorg.conf with a backup and try again.
[12:08] <guille> i am gonna kill my self soon
[12:08] <tmske> guille: sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:08] <guille> to copy it do i need sudo?
[12:08] <tmske> yes
[12:08] <guille> and i writte that in the command window?
[12:08] <Pocae> thx tmske, ill see how it goes
[12:08] <tmske> guille: yes
[12:09] <ubuntu> Anyone have success with Flashplayer under GutsyGib?
[12:09] <tmske> ubuntu: beter ask in kubuntu-devel, but it doesn't work for me
[12:09] <ubuntu> Thank you.
[12:10] <Jucato> ubuntu: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:10] <tmske> Q-collective: looks like some hardware problem, have you tried the alternate install cd?
[12:11] <Q-collective> tmske: alternate? no
[12:11] <Q-collective> what's special about that one?
[12:14] <guille> a question i programmed several years ago
[12:15] <guille> the text after # is comments
[12:15] <tmske> guille: yes
[12:15] <guille> the text without is code right?
[12:15] <guille> o yeah
[12:15] <guille> yesterady when i installed kubuntu
[12:15] <tmske> Q-collective: it's a text based installer, it could work, but is harder to install
[12:15] <guille> i got 2 options
[12:15] <guille> i got kubuntu i got a memory test and the windows
[12:15] <tmske> guille: text without are commands yes
[12:16] <guille> but afrter that i reboot the pc and i got 5 opitons
[12:16] <Q-collective> tmske: ok
[12:16] <guille> i got 2 of kubuntu and 2 of kubuntu safe mode
[12:16] <tmske> guille: that's probably because you installed updates
[12:16] <tmske> guille: when a new kernel get's installed there are new entries
[12:17] <guille> o shit
[12:17] <blekos> usually u can safelly reomove the last (bottom) 2
[12:17] <guille> il try that
[12:17] <blekos> I'd suggest keep em for a while
[12:17] <guille> i am at the end of the file
[12:17] <guille> what do i do there?
[12:17] <guille> i read something about changing the order with numbers
[12:18] <blekos> if I am not mistaken the file is smg like linux-kernel-image and can be found in the synaptic anager
[12:18] <guille> but none of this ir ordered as i epected it to be
[12:21] <VSpike> damn my font sizes are wierd
[12:21] <guille> where it says root
[12:21] <VSpike> there seems to be no rhyme or reason to them
[12:21] <guille> that is the dmi driver adres right?
[12:21] <guille> nothing i should change
[12:22] <yeniklasorr> How can I set auto mount my partitions at startup ?.
[12:23] <VSpike> yeniklasorr: add them to /etc/fstab
[12:25] <yeniklasorr> VSpike : OK, but ubuntu always checking when startup disk sectors and this is causing waste of time when booting. Is it possible to skip?
[12:26] <VSpike> yeniklasorr: yeah, you can use tune2fs for that
[12:26] <yeniklasorr> VSpike : just install it ?
[12:26] <VSpike> I've never done it myself, but the man page looks pretty comprehensive
[12:27] <VSpike> yeniklasorr: should be installed already
[12:27] <VSpike> try "man tune2fs" at the console
[12:27] <yeniklasorr> ok
[12:31] <yeniklasorr> VSpike : Any option for ntfs and fat32 ?
[12:32] <VSpike> yeniklasorr: ok, maybe I misunderstood you when you said "ubuntu always checking when startup disk sectors and this is causing waste of time when booting." ... i thought you meant it was running fsck on file systems
[12:33] <VSpike> but it should not run fsck on fat32 or ntfs file systems
[12:33] <franz_> anybody knows how to install safari in kubuntu?
[12:33] <franz_> !safari
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about safari - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <guille> what i did with the grub list order file did not work
[12:35] <yeniklasorr> VSpike : I mean it is checking, xxx clusters, xxx blocks etc... for fat systems
[12:35] <zipper> franz_, guess you could try installing it with wine, but i doubt its worth it. You should use one of the native browsers instead
[12:36] <tmske> guille: what did you do exactly, maybe post you grub file to the paste link I gave you earlier (or see channel topic)
[12:36] <guille> you did not gave me any past link
[12:37] <guille> i dont get it
[12:37] <guille> i am tired
[12:37] <guille> i have been sitting here almost 2 days now trying to make this wokr as i wnted to but it does not
[12:38] <guille> when i writte in commandline that i want to open the grub file list using sudo
[12:38] <guille> it asks me for the paswrod
[12:38] <guille> i writte it
[12:38] <guille> but the an amount of error lines comes up
[12:38] <guille> and then the file is opened with kate
[12:38] <guille> i guess it stills let me to change it but it did not work
[12:39] <tmske> guille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:39] <guille> i paste the last past of the grub list file
[12:40] <VSpike> yeniklasorr: it's running a dosfsck on the fat systems?
[12:40] <tmske> guille: if you pasted your file there, print the link you got here so we can read it
[12:41] <guille> i am pasting what the comand line tells me after i writte sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:41] <guille> hte link i got is
[12:41] <guille> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35366/
[12:42] <llutz> guille: use "kdesu" instead of sudo for gui-apps
[12:42] <guille> how in the name of god am i supoussed to know that!!!
[12:43] <guille> well i tryed with kdedu and the same thing came up
[12:43] <guille> after that kate opened the file and i can edit the file
[12:43] <guille> but it is th same that happened before
[12:43] <VSpike> yeniklasorr: Have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=393320 -- it might contain the answer
[12:43] <tmske> sudo should work too
[12:43] <tmske> guille: can you paste the code in kate to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:44] <yeniklasorr> VSpike : ok thanks
[12:44] <DaleksUnited> !wifi
[12:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:44] <tmske> guille: the error message you get is normal, it's nothing to worry about, we need to see the content of menu.lst to help
[12:44] <guille> il do that
[12:44] <Adam> Hello all
[12:45] <Adam> I am new to Kubuntu
[12:45] <guille> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35368/
[12:45] <Adam> And I am just 14 years old!
[12:45] <guille> Hi Adam i hope you get better luck than i am having
[12:45] <Adam> lol
[12:45] <Adam> What you on?
[12:45] <guille> trying to make this work for 2 days now...and counting
[12:45] <Adam> Kubuntu?
[12:45] <guille> yeah
[12:45] <Adam> lol
[12:45] <guille> 7.04
[12:46] <Adam> Mines work - I am running it virtually but the net connection is a little slow
[12:46] <guille> well that works fine
[12:46] <Adam> Same version
[12:46] <guille> but wait untill you want to do more advanced stuff
[12:46] <guille> and not so much adavanced like installing a webcam or a printer
[12:46] <VSpike> learning a new OS is really frustrating
[12:46] <Adam> I will have to use the konsole terminal - I use a tutorial for now
[12:46] <guille> or trying to get the right codec to listen to a radio station or to see a movie
[12:47] <Adam> Just getting the basics...
[12:47] <nicolas> !kubuntu-fr
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <VSpike> it's also very satisfying though
[12:47] <guille> i live in a fourth floor soon you might hear in the news about a guy that killed himself
[12:47] <Adam> Yup! When you achieve something its great !
[12:47] <VSpike> but yeah there are days when you want to throw it out the window
[12:47] <tmske> guille: this should be the correct file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35369/
[12:47] <VSpike> guille: or yourself, true :)
[12:47] <blekos> anybody know if i can have an output to my TV from KDE using GUI?
[12:47] <tmske> guille: I've put windows before ubuntu like you wanted
[12:47] <Adam> How can I change the kde theme?
[12:48] <blekos> terminal
[12:48] <guille> tmske
[12:48] <blekos> sudo kcontrol
[12:48] <Adam> wat>
[12:48] <guille> could you explain to me what you did so i learn?
[12:48] <Adam> ?
[12:48] <blekos> adam
[12:48] <blekos> sudo kcontrol
[12:48] <nicolas> hi all!
[12:48] <Adam> Ok...... I just know how to do stuff like cd and mkdir
[12:48] <Adam> Thanks Blekos
[12:48] <VSpike> Adam: for me, it's under Settings->Appearances and Themes-> Them manager
[12:48] <blekos> on the left are a banch of options you could change
[12:48] <tmske> guille: look at the changes from your file, you'll see that the windows entry is above the ubuntu ones
[12:49] <blekos> u could always download icons etc and install them
[12:49] <Adam> Trying everything you guys say
[12:49] <blekos> it could be there, but in kcontrol you'll find a coupole of options not available in settings etc
[12:49] <guille> yeah i am comparing them
[12:49] <Adam> By the way I am on Kubuntu
[12:49] <nicolas> i've a question, do i need a firewall for my laptop?
[12:49] <yeniklasorr> VSpike : I understand this from that topic. "UUID=1C80-28B0 /media/hdb1 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1" must be "UUID=1C80-28B0 /media/hdb1 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,noauto,rw,nouser 0 0" true ?
[12:49] <guille> soon i am gona get an abilyti to rea 2 files at the same time each with one eye
[12:50] <nicolas> ( i'm on Kubuntu)
[12:50] <Jucato> !kdesu | blekos
[12:50] <ubotu> blekos: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:50] <VSpike> yeniklasorr: yeah, that's my understanding too.. I didn't know that before, would be interesting to see if it works
[12:50] <tmske> guille: you see that the windows entry is now almost on top
[12:50] <guille> yes i notice that
[12:50] <guille> i noticed that the #end of debian systems also changed place
[12:51] <guille> but it is a comment that would not matter right?
[12:51] <yeniklasorr> VSpike : Checking it now :) will be here soon
[12:51] <tmske> guille: that's a comment so that doesn't matter
[12:51] <Adam> Blekos: kcontrol works good
[12:51] <guille> and at the end i got this 2 ubuntu options having a lower veriosn of kernel i should be able just to delete those entries right?
[12:51] <VSpike> guille: sudo apt-get install kdiff3
[12:51] <tmske> guille: grub will as default boot the first option in menu.lst
[12:52] <guille> if i had wrotten as code non system, it would have not boot at all untill i told it to?
[12:52] <tmske> guille: you can delete thoses, but that's not really necessary
[12:52] <Adam> Next thing...... when I browse sites the connection gets broken. How can I fix it?
[12:52] <guille> i am gona let them be there just for safety, i feel like i am walking on thin ice everytime i do something to this
[12:53] <blekos> what do u mean the connections gets broken?
[12:53] <blekos> is there a chance only firefox crashes?
[12:53] <Adam> I am using Konqueror
[12:53] <blekos> there was a know bug for firefox to crash on flash sites
[12:53] <blekos> i c
[12:53] <guille> i'll be right back rebooting
[12:53] <Adam> And a error box says connection with www.dfgh.com is broken
[12:54] <Adam> Just an example
[12:54] <Adam> I was trying to go to the kde-look website and the connection keeps getting broken
[12:54] <blekos> do u have a firewall?
[12:55] <Adam> Yeah, but that firewall is in windows - you see I am running virtually
[12:56] <Adam> It will load half the page and then say sudo kcontrol
[12:56] <Adam> Connection to host www.skinbase.org is broken
[12:56] <blekos> would u mind trying firefox?
[12:57] <Adam> I dont have it on kubuntu?
[12:57] <blekos> sudo aptitude install firefox
[12:57] <Adam> I am trying it wait.
[12:57] <blekos> or perhaphs u could deactive firewall for 1 minite and hit reload to one of your web pages
[12:57] <guille> I back
[12:58] <guille> tmske you know i got a problem
[12:58] <Adam> Right now I am installing Firefox - will let you know what happens.
[12:58] <blekos> ok
[12:58] <guille> a minor one, funny aswell when the grub list came up the first row was the one that said "other operating systems" and ofcourse ti did not do nothing
[12:59] <guille> i am gonna delete that row now and i am sure it would work
[12:59] <OutoLumo> Hih, all!
[12:59] <tmske> guille: yeah, ok, one more thing, you see the savedefault after every entry, this means that when you boot into something that the next time that will be the default
[01:00] <tmske> guille: so if you want windows to be default always, you'll have to remove those lines
[01:00] <Adam> E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/libnss3_1.firefox2.0.0.6+1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: 0 OK
[01:00] <Adam> It failed on installing
[01:00] <guille> aha, ?
[01:00] <Adam> Shall I turn off the firewall?
[01:01] <guille> i boot in kubuntu now next time this one will be on top of the list?
[01:01] <blekos> no
[01:01] <OutoLumo> I'm trying to get wireless work. I have an laptop with atheros card and latest (feisty?) kubuntu.
[01:01] <blekos> try to do the follong
[01:01] <blekos> exit the knetworkmanager
[01:01] <OutoLumo> Kwifimanager sees the network  I want to connect, but that's all.
[01:01] <blekos> outoLumo
[01:02] <blekos> i'd suggest wi-fi rada
[01:02] <blekos> Adam r u there?
[01:02] <Adam> Yes
[01:02] <Adam> What shall I do?
[01:02] <OutoLumo> I have
[01:02] <guille> well i have done that i guess that is a problem less
[01:02] <guille> too bad my cam wont work
[01:02] <blekos> right click on the knetworkmanager bottom right , icon with a cable and chose exit
[01:02] <tmske> guille: what cam?
[01:02] <guille> Genius
[01:03] <Adam> done that!
[01:03] <Adam> Now what ..............?
[01:03] <blekos> try conqueror
[01:03] <Adam> ok
[01:03] <Adam> wait
[01:03] <OutoLumo> The wireless network is protected with a psk. What should I do with that? Where do I edit network settings?
[01:03] <OutoLumo> blekos, ok I have exited knoetworkmanager
[01:04] <blekos> hmm, I'm not in a linux system now, but i believe you go to start menuu->seting->connection
[01:04] <Adam> blekos : same problem
[01:04] <OutoLumo> konqueror wont find internet
[01:04] <blekos> damn
[01:04] <Adam> I am on kubuntu through vmware player..... is that why?
[01:04] <blekos> adam disable firewall and try again
[01:05] <Adam> ok
[01:05] <Adam> ok
[01:05] <blekos> adam u r on this channel right?
[01:05] <OutoLumo> K-menu->System settings- Network settings and then?
[01:05] <blekos> adam u r on this channel from kubuntu right?
[01:05] <Adam> yes
[01:05] <Adam> blekos - on this channel in kubuntu
[01:06] <tmske> guille: I don't think I'll be able to help with that, have you searched the forums and google?
[01:06] <blekos> that means you have internet in Kubuntu but you cannot access webpages
[01:06] <guille> o yeah a lot
[01:06] <blekos> any luck with disabling firewall?
[01:06] <guille> some said i hade to install from adaptmanager some drivers
[01:06] <guille> and i did that
[01:06] <Adam> Nope
[01:07] <guille> i checked in the infocenter if it was intalled and it was
[01:07] <Adam> It loads the web sites menu and everything but towards the end of loading breaks the connection
[01:07] <guille> then i tryend some program to see if it works but not
[01:07] <guille> then i got a page where it said what cams would work but mine was not there
[01:07] <tmske> guille: does it show in dmesg or lspci?
[01:07] <OutoLumo> In network connections I have enabled wireless network device. What should i put for router ip-address?
[01:08] <guille> what is that?
[01:08] <Adam> I used Damn Small Linux and internet works fine on that
[01:08] <guille> the cam i got is a Genius VideoCAM GE111
[01:08] <Adam> Kubuntu loads half and then messes up
[01:08] <blekos> hmm, dont know why this is happening
[01:09] <OutoLumo> Or rather: default gateway. I have a lan-switch connected to a network.
[01:09] <Adam> Shall I go to my windows desktop, download from skind from there , then plug into kubuntu?
[01:09] <blekos> well, I could suggest you dual boot your machine...
[01:09] <blekos> I know its extreme,
[01:09] <blekos> but i've done and it's perfectly safe
[01:09] <Adam> Cant afford to
[01:09] <blekos> not enough space?
[01:09] <Adam> I am 14 remember, and I can do it but its my dads pc
[01:09] <guille> tmske, i rwotte those lines in the command line and i got
[01:10] <guille> uff a lot of lines
[01:10] <blekos> ok
[01:10] <blekos> outolumo your router ip, should be the one you use to access it's menu via a web-browser
[01:10] <blekos> maybe 192.168.1.1
[01:10] <OutoLumo> ok
[01:10] <blekos> maybe 192.168.0.1
[01:11] <guille> "usb 3-2: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0" could it be it?
[01:11] <blekos> Adam have tried a live cd to see if you have the same problem/
[01:11] <blekos> live cd doesnt mess a thing
[01:12] <tmske> guille: it's probably that device, but I won't be able to help much as I don't have a cam myself and no experience with it either
[01:13] <guille> well dont worry i am still using XP as default
[01:15] <Adam> I have donnloaded the file I want from my windows xp connection and will plug the usb into kubuntu
[01:18] <Adam> I have a kde theme file which is .tar.bz2. How do I install it?
[01:18] <guille> i am noe trying to install java
[01:19] <Adam> blekos: are you there?
[01:21] <sito> in firefox with mplayer reproductor for radio, when i put a windows over, the sound fall down... a idea?
[01:23] <guille> sito, it has to be somewhere a configuration that says that the sunds keeps on when you minimize
[01:24] <sito> where the configuration is?
[01:24] <Adam> Just installed a new them
[01:24] <Adam> e
[01:24] <guille> how did you to open the .gz files Adam?
[01:25] <Adam> I just richt clicked and did extract
[01:25] <guille> extrac with ark? where?
[01:25] <Adam> Anywhere you want.... desktop....home etrc
[01:26] <guille> bin files then?
[01:28] <guille> a what ever i am off this
[01:32] <Aranel> Hi, I can't use my ttyX consoles, when I CTRL+ALT+F1 / F2 etc. It only gives black screen. Please help me, this is very problematic for me :)
[01:33] <Adam> yay!
[01:33] <Adam> I got my theme changed
[01:33] <Adam> Just need to find some icons now
[01:34] <Access> Hello
[01:35] <Access> This the right place for n00bs to ask questions?
[01:35] <Access> Or is there a designated n00b section?
[01:36] <llutz> !ask | Access
[01:36] <ubotu> Access: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:40] <Access> Hey, its better to ask a question then get banned for not understanding where I am
[01:40] <llutz> the topic tells you where you are :)
[01:40] <Access> But thanks for the generosity. I seem to be having trouble getting beyond 1024x768
[01:41] <OutoLumo_> Access, on the other hand, you might not be able to judge the level of your question. Newbies are known to have asked most dazzling questions ;)
[01:41] <Access> I edited xconf file (I believe thats its name) and cappended 1280x1024 and it didnt work, however 1280x768 for example did.
[01:41] <Access> Under the display 24 depth part
[01:42] <Access> It recongises my video drivers fine
[01:42] <Access> Geforce 7800GS
[01:42] <OutoLumo_> Ok, now I have a wireless connection from my kubuntu-laptop (hooray!) The downside is, that it is not password protected. (Not so hooray.) Any ideas?
[01:42] <Access> But my monitor it cant idneitfy
[01:42] <Aranel> Hi, I can't use my ttyX consoles, When I use CTRL+ALT+F1 / F2 etc. combinations, It just gives black screen, I tried It in my old kernel, and it works! But in my  new kernel, I can't use ttyX, please someone help me, this is very problematic :/
[01:42] <Access> It is a Auriga ColorPro 19D and I cand find the vertical/horizontal values anywhere on the internet for it.
[01:44] <Access> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto <= I tried looking at that, but I none seem to yield a result.
[01:44] <blekos> outlumo
[01:44] <OutoLumo_> Access, this here: http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=113161#post1470347
[01:44] <blekos> 1. how did u get access finally?
[01:45] <blekos> 2. to password protect your Wi-fi you should enter your router interface -->wi fi options
[01:45] <blekos> and add an Network Name (SSID) and a passord
[01:46] <blekos> what router do u have?
[01:46] <OutoLumo_> blekos, I changed the password off from the router and accidentally rebooted.
[01:47] <Access> Thankyou so much Outolumo!
[01:47] <OutoLumo_> blekos, I know how to password protect the router - I just had it password protected. The problem was, that I couldn't find a way to connect my kubuntu-laptop to it, and could only use it from the windows laptop.
[01:47] <tatters>  my webcam and TV card are failing due to error   "X Error of failed request: XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode" it seem there is a switch "-nodga" does anyone know if it possible to edit xorg.conf to include that switch so need to type ?
[01:48] <blekos> weird
[01:48] <OutoLumo_> Only when I set the password protection off, I could connect to the internet from the kubuntu laptop.
[01:48] <blekos> got a sony szxp, didnt have that prob
[01:49] <blekos> this make sense since u need to enter the password to connect
[01:49] <blekos> maybe you could try installing kwifi
[01:49] <OutoLumo_> So essentially: where do I set the network password in the Kubuntu system?
[01:49] <blekos> and kwifimanager
[01:50] <OutoLumo_> I have kwifimanager installed and there is no kwifi-package in my repos.
[01:50] <Lynoure> OutoLumo_: knetworkmanager is pretty much the easiest way
[01:51] <blekos> oh yes, that I meant... :)
[01:51] <Lynoure> OutoLumo_: it will ask for it and if you want, store it for kwallet for you.
[01:51] <blekos> I'm at work and I use windows...
[01:51] <flo___> hi
[01:52] <flo___> is there a special room for gwenview questions?
[01:52] <OutoLumo_> Lynoure, I just started knetworkmanager, and it doesn't even show any networks...
[01:52] <blekos> http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager
[01:54] <Lynoure> OutoLumo_: then it might be an issue with wlan card not being supported. or in any case something that requires more time for troubleshooting than I have now... sorry
[01:54] <OutoLumo_> Lynoure, I have an atheros based lan card.
[01:54] <Lynoure> !atheros
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <Lynoure> OutoLumo_: if I recall, should be well supported cards, through and through but don't take my word on it
[01:55] <OutoLumo_> And since I'm using the wifi on kubuntu right now, it should be working... Passwords are set somewhere on software level.
[01:56] <Lynoure> OutoLumo_: well, why didn't you say so. They indeed are. Try configuring the essid manually for knetworkmanager
[01:57] <Lynoure> It's often a bit sluggish on detection, and many people's habit of hiding the wlan name does not help.
[01:57] <DaleksUnited> importerror: no module named pygtk?
[02:02] <Lynoure> OutoLumo_: any improvement? is it a WPA or WEP wlan?
[02:03] <Aranel> Does Gutsy Gibbon have Turkish language ?
[02:03] <jussi01> !tu
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <jussi01> hmmmm
[02:04] <pag> !tr
[02:04] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[02:04] <jussi01> !tr | Aranel
[02:04] <ubotu> Aranel: please see above
[02:04] <Aranel> :)
[02:04] <Aranel> They don't know :)
[02:09] <rcb> canaan1929
[02:09] <OutoLumo__> ok. I set the password manually in KNetWorkManager and it wont connect.
[02:11] <Aranel> how do I reinstall a package ?
[02:11] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[02:11] <Lynoure> OutoLumo_: WEP or WPA? no MAC limiting, by any chance?
[02:11] <Jucato> or in Adept, right-click on the package select Reinstall
[02:12] <OutoLumo__> Also, KNetWorkManager still doesn't see any networks. Kwifimanager does, bun only allows switching to ones with no password.
[02:12] <OutoLumo__> Lynoure: WPA-PSK. No mac-limiting.
[02:14] <OutoLumo__> Hmm... KNetWorkManager only supports WEP?
[02:15] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: and you are not missing wpasupplicant
[02:15] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: no...
[02:16] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: been using knetworkmanager with WPA since beta dapper
[02:16] <OutoLumo__> I have it installed. Should I make config-adjustments somewhere?
[02:16] <Aranel> Jucato: thanks :)
[02:17] <Jucato> np
[02:17] <OutoLumo__> Anyhow, device configuration dialog, where the ESSID is asked for, only prompts for WEP...
[02:21] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: if under Use encryption it only gives WEP, then you are probably missing something
[02:22] <OutoLumo__> But what?
[02:22] <jussi01> wpa supplicant?
[02:22] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: I'm at work now, and on debian, not ideal probono troubleshoot situation
[02:22] <Lynoure> jussi01: just asked about that 5min ago
[02:23] <jussi01> heh, ok
[02:23] <OutoLumo__> jussi01:  it is still installed, and I'd appriciate any advice as to its configuration....
[02:24] <jussi01> !wpa
[02:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:24] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: once upon a time emptying one's /etc/network/interfaces helped, but it's no longer needed, really
[02:24] <jussi01> read there.... then you know more than me
[02:25] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: no harm commenting out your wifi interface, though, for trying it out. you can always uncomment
[02:28] <OutoLumo__> Lynoure:  that WAS clean, I working on refilling it somehow now...
[02:28] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: http://www.lynoure.org/blog/index.php?/archives/76-Solving-the-common-NetworkManager-problem.html
[02:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Folks ;0
[02:32] <BluesKaj> err :)
[02:35] <Lynoure> OutoLumo__: hmmm. Interesting. Unfortunately too busy to see this through. Good luck, please tell me what the cause was, when you figure it out. If you still have this problem later tonight, I can try to help you more directly from my kubuntu.
[02:36] <OutoLumo__> ok, ty :)
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> morin' BluesKaj
[02:40] <BluesKaj> hiya nosrednaekim, quiet today
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. a little
[02:40] <Jucato> that's good right? :)
[02:41] <BluesKaj> just checking out the ati drivers on the upcoming gutsy release , so far the compatability issues don't look promising
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> did they fix the GPL problem?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> dunno
[02:48] <BluesKaj> just trying to find out if it's going enable XGL by default since fglrx doesn't use it
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> fglrx doesn't fork with XGL anymore?
[02:49] <newzen> hi all, im traing to migrate my hard disk from pIII to PIV is there something like kudsu from redhat for adjust modules and other change's from architecture
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> newzen: you shouldn't have a problem with that
[02:49] <newzen> s/traing/trying/g
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> newzen: we understand ;)
[02:50] <newzen> nosrednaekim: why dont't have problem, that dont start up
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> newzen: what?
[02:51] <newzen> some divice or drivers are not reconized
[02:51] <newzen> or not charged
[02:52] <newzen> nosrednaekim: Kubuntu make this automatic?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> XGL is used by fglrx
[02:53] <BluesKaj> I misread the article
[02:54] <BluesKaj> better have another coffe
[02:54] <BluesKaj> coffee
[02:54] <Alloosh> hi guys, I want to paste mysql file in mysql using the terminal but there is a limit to the number of chars, how can I reach the mysql consol and avoid the terminal
[02:56] <newzen> disk architecture migration " you shouldn't have a problem with that" why Kubuntu make this automatic?
[02:57] <Jucato> coffeee!!!
[02:57] <newzen> short history, i buy a new pc ( PIV) i want to use my old disk on pIII to boot, but i can't Some tips or recomended reading??
[02:58] <Jucato> thanks! :)
[02:58] <genii> Jucato: Yer welcome :)
[02:58] <frederic> hi
[02:59] <newzen> some one please :)
[02:59] <genii> newzen: Do you still have the old motherboard?
[02:59] <newzen> yes
[03:00] <stamen> hi
[03:00] <stamen> who can tell me a good program for audio capturing
[03:00] <longman> hi stamen
[03:00] <newzen> genii: what can i do with my old motherboard?
[03:00] <genii> newzen: I would try putting the hd in there like before. then go into bios and write down how many heads, cylinders and so on the bios sees the hd as. then when you put it into the newer system, go into bios and specify there the same numbers. Also to put it in the same position if possible (eg: master on first IDE or wherever it was previously in the hd arrangement)
[03:01] <rjune_> stamen: audacity
[03:01] <stamen> rjune_:  ok, I will try it
[03:01] <stamen> is ti simple for use
[03:01] <stamen> or it is professional
[03:02] <newzen> genii: and about new audio system, new ethernet port etc etc, kubuntu reconigze it automatic?
[03:02] <newzen> or i need to charge by chand the new modules / drives?
[03:02] <uakkeri> how should i partiotion my disk for kubuntu? 160GB disk, 768MB memory
[03:03] <stamen> rjune_:  thank you
[03:03] <rjune_> stamen: np
[03:03] <newzen> uakkeri: what is your primary OS?
[03:04] <uakkeri> only kubuntu
[03:04] <frederic> i was afraid to read windows
[03:04] <frederic> lol
[03:04] <uakkeri> i have ubuntu now
[03:04] <uakkeri> i want a fresh start
[03:05] <uakkeri> old habit from the time i was using windows i guess
[03:05] <newzen> yuskkery: you could use partition magic for do the job
[03:06] <ubuntu> hello?
[03:06] <uakkeri> i've started installing already. i'm doing the partitio manually
[03:06] <genii> newzen: As long as it has drivers for the new things it should see them OK. But you may need to tinker with ethernet settings since the mac address for instance is recorded in a file. So the eth0 at first of the new box will be eth1 instead until this is sorted.
[03:06] <ubuntu> could anyone give mes ome advice?
[03:06] <frederic> anyone has managed to get an xbox 360 wired controller to work ? I've been playing around whit this lately but no results 'til now
[03:07] <miles> if you use yum to DL a package, would you be able to remove it with "apt-get remove --purge [package] "?
[03:07] <newzen> ok, thanks genii, im going to try yopur solution
[03:07] <Mr_Sonoma> !ask | ubuntu
[03:07] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <uakkeri> does kernel need it's own partition?
[03:07] <ubuntu> ok dokey!
[03:07] <ubuntu> errr...
[03:07] <miles> uakkeri: no
[03:07] <miles> uakkeri: many people reccomend putting /boot on its own partition
[03:07] <ubuntu> having a bit of dificulty installing! well actually i cant install lol!
[03:07] <uakkeri> so swap, /, ...
[03:07] <newzen>  uakkeri: What vesion are you using? alternate?
[03:07] <miles> yea, all you need really is a partition for swap and /
[03:08] <uakkeri> 7.04
[03:08] <rjune_> miles: I would try yum remove <pkg>
[03:08] <ruben> hi guys!
[03:08] <frederic> hi ruben
[03:09] <genii> newzen: I will be here for the next 8 hours in-between my regular work if you experience difficulties
[03:09] <miles> i dont even think i have yum installed, i was just wondering if they could be used interchangeably
[03:09] <uakkeri> newzen: i'm doing the kubuntu GUI installation
[03:09] <miles> spellcheck@interchangeably
[03:09] <Jucato> !away > Menda|AFK
[03:09] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, what error are you getting when you try to install? how are you trying to install?
[03:09] <newzen> uakkeri: miles are right but you can do a better instalation with alternate cd, for create a LVM install, in this way you can expand in the future your's partitions
[03:09] <ubuntu> hi there all, i'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04 for the first time, after downloading and burning da iso to cd, i have booted up and whilst booting up it brings up many errors about the "hdc" and "buffer I/O errors" but does finally boot up and i am now seeing kubuntu, however clicking the install button only makes it look like it's going to do summit for awhile and then does nothing and closes
[03:10] <miles> if im not mistaken, kernel source gets placed in /usr/src
[03:10] <miles> but the kernel image is in /boot
[03:10] <miles> can someone confirm?
[03:10] <frederic> i had the same error as ubuntu, but when installing gutsy tribe 4 O.o
[03:10] <frederic> I/O Buffer error
[03:10] <rjune_> miles: that's where it should be
[03:11] <frederic> 4 or 5 of them
[03:11] <miles> k
[03:11] <uakkeri> newzen: maybe you could give me an advice... 160GB sda and 768 MB memory. i'd be very appreciated.
[03:11] <miles> uakkeri: make your swap 1.5GB
[03:11] <uakkeri> newzen: order would be nice too
[03:11] <miles> uakkeri: ill give you my opinion ...
[03:11] <ubuntu> errr..... dont think i  understand
[03:12] <rjune_> meh, give it a nice round 2G, odds are you won't hit swap for a while.
[03:12] <uakkeri> newzen: i have all free space now
[03:12] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, what kind of system are you installing on? an older pc? what processor and ram?
[03:13] <uakkeri> newzen: thanx. so first i make what partition?
[03:13] <rjune_> Mr_Sonoma: I think you mean uakkeri
[03:13] <ubuntu> errr... Celeron 2.4, 512mb RAM, 32mb TNT 2, 180GB HD
[03:14] <miles> uakkeri: "/boot" = 1st
[03:14] <uakkeri> newzen: primary and from the beginning of the sector....
[03:14] <miles> uakkeri: "/" = 2nd
[03:14] <miles> uakkeri: "/home" = 3rd
[03:14] <Mr_Sonoma> rjune_, nope ubuntu *grin* 2 instances of the simmular issues looks like
[03:14] <miles> uakkeri: and then swap
[03:14] <uakkeri> miles: i hear you
[03:14] <miles> thats just my opinion
[03:14] <miles> uakkeri: sorry wasnt tryin to be rude
[03:14] <ubuntu>  errr... Celeron 2.4, 512mb RAM, 32mb TNT 2, 180GB HD
[03:15] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, you say the installer closes? thats more of a system than i have an i was able to use a live cd to install without issue
[03:15] <uakkeri>  miles: me neither :) language wall you know
[03:15] <miles> ya haha
[03:15] <uakkeri>  miles: size of boot?
[03:15] <miles> if you make /boot its own partition, make it no larger then 1 gig/1024 mb
[03:15] <uakkeri> ok
[03:16] <ubuntu> interesting, i do however get a lot of errors occuring with what i think is the cd drive (hdc), apparently there are buffer I/O errors
[03:16] <miles> if its larger, the MBR might not be able to boot it, it has something to do with lo memory and hi memory
[03:16] <uakkeri>  miles:done
[03:17] <miles> making /home its own partition is optional, but reccomended since almost all personal config files get placed in the users home directory
[03:17] <miles> though me personally, didnt make /home its own partition
[03:17] <BluesKaj> all these partitions isn't as wonderful a prctice as ppl make them out to be IME
[03:17] <uakkeri>  miles:i have an extra hda 80 also
[03:17] <ubuntu> Mr_Sonoma::: interesting, i do however get a lot of errors occuring with what i think is the cd drive (hdc), apparently there are buffer I/O errors
[03:18] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, have you tried to run the "check cd" thing when you first boot up, you know when you get the option to start/install kubuntu or do a few other things. you may want to run the check cd utility, just a thought. i burned a alternate install cd i had problems with once and it turned out that i had a bad spot or something. anyways it didnt pass the cd check.
[03:18] <frederic> true sonoma, when i had the same problem i burned the .iso on a dvd(cd .iso)
[03:18] <ubuntu> Mr_sonama::::: i'll try running it, and i'll let u know in a tick.... i have to reboot right
[03:19] <BluesKaj> if the guy is new to linux , don't confuse the partition with all these / and & /home and swap ..let them learn about them later \
[03:19] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, yes you
[03:19] <Mr_Sonoma> 'd hve to reboot
[03:19] <Mr_Sonoma> well i fat fingered that one
[03:19] <ubuntu> kk.... in a bit!
[03:19] <uakkeri>  miles:so do i make now / to the rest of the space and then /home logical?
[03:19] <Mr_Sonoma> frederic, i havent done that one yet
[03:20] <Angelus> BluesKaj: morning, i changed my driver from ati to radeon and edited a bit the xorg.conf and god direct rendering working
[03:20] <frederic> ok, plus it was gutsy tribe 4(kubuntu)
[03:21] <frederic> Angelus:  welcome to the crapy world of ati
[03:21] <frederic> lol
[03:21] <BluesKaj> Angelus, congrats! :)
[03:21] <Angelus> yeah
[03:21] <tony_> ^_^
[03:21] <frederic> i have an x1600 pro
[03:21] <frederic> and is hell of a job to get working properly
[03:21] <Angelus> frederic: good, i have a card that its not supported by the ati's driver
[03:21] <BluesKaj> <-----x200G
[03:21] <frederic> i can just install the prop. drivers and pretend it's ok .... but it's not :P
[03:21] <Angelus> only an open source driver works
[03:21] <Angelus> lol!!
[03:22] <Angelus> <----7000/VE
[03:22] <frederic> i just ordered a new puter, with GEFORCE :P
[03:22] <Angelus> im gonna recompile mesa from source again, probably i'll blow my system again.. another re-install lol
[03:23] <Mr_Sonoma> i want to upgrade ........... but cant afford to right now =(
[03:23] <frederic> lol
[03:23] <frederic> yeah upgrade costs a few bucks
[03:23] <BluesKaj> i have an older modded and patched fglrx driver , written by some dedicated guys, i got on this site : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[03:23] <Angelus> steal from the rich, give to yourself!
[03:24] <frederic> i payd 300$ CAD for a Intel P D 2.8 1go ddr2 NoVid
[03:24] <Angelus> yeah BluesKaj i tried that many times but no luck
[03:24] <frederic> all boxed
[03:24] <BluesKaj> Angelus, it only works for the low end onboard graphics
[03:24] <Angelus> oh
[03:24] <Mr_Sonoma> i could do what i want for round 250 and that would be replacing everything but the case, powersupply, and optical drive
[03:25] <frederic> yeah well i love having more than 1 cpu at home :)
[03:25] <uakkeri> miles:come on....
[03:25] <Angelus> BluesKaj: i wonder why ati didnt release a driver for the 7000 , they release for 7100 and 7200 but for 7000 not. they hate me1
[03:25] <uakkeri>  miles:i can do this but not without your support
[03:25] <frederic> Angelus: awful
[03:26] <BluesKaj> yeah , we discussed that before Angelus , an oversight maybe ?
[03:26] <Angelus> oversight?
[03:26] <frederic> buy a 7100
[03:26] <Angelus> whats an oversight?
[03:26] <frederic> lol kidding ;)
[03:26] <Angelus> lol frederic
[03:27] <BluesKaj> forgot it unintentionally
[03:27] <Angelus> oh
[03:27] <Angelus> :o
[03:27] <Angelus> well i'll f.. email them then
[03:28] <frederic> actually my video card never workd 100% funtionally, for beryl, i have to log in xgl session, but in xgl games (wine) doesn't work
[03:28] <uakkeri> ok i rtfm
[03:28] <frederic> so it's a hell of restarting X(changing session) each time i want to do something
[03:28] <BluesKaj> I am worried about Gutsy ...I think i may have to invest in an intel or nvidia graphics card to run 3D and DRI
[03:29] <frederic> BluesKaj: im running gutsy tribe 4 with the ati prop. drivers and it works WONDERFUL
[03:29] <frederic> tribe 5 tho messed the whole thing up seems less stable than tribe 4...
[03:29] <Angelus> frederic: well youre lucky you only have to change an xsesion, i have to reboot to windows everytime i wanna play a game
[03:29] <Mr_Sonoma> frederic, why not run two gui log ins...one for beryl and one for gaming then just cntrl+alt+f7 for one the cntrl+alt+f8 for the other?
[03:29] <frederic> lol
[03:29] <frederic> i play cs source, wow, oblivion, etc etc... :D
[03:29] <genii> BluesKaj: On my new box I got a Nvidia 7600GT for about $120
[03:29] <frederic> only cs source is a bit weird
[03:29] <frederic> but can be handled
[03:29] <BluesKaj> frederic, which ati card tho? ....some are more equal than others :(
[03:30] <genii> BluesKaj: Works great with Gutsy so far
[03:30] <frederic> Asus EAX1600pro(ati x1600)
[03:30] <frederic> does the job well
[03:30] <frederic> could be a bit better tho :
[03:30] <uakkeri> if i choose to do the manua-use-all-disk option installer can i be sure that it left no other OSs in the disk?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> cool genii , isn't that an older card ?
[03:31] <frederic> uakkeri:  get a wipe boot cd if you want to be sure
[03:31] <frederic> ultimate boot cd has nice such features
[03:31] <miles> uakkeri: sorry im at work, i had to go talk to someone real quick
[03:31] <genii> BluesKaj: Not too old :) Has 256Mb ram,tv out, dual DVI out etc as well
[03:31] <miles> making the 4th partition logical would allow for the most expansion in the future
[03:32] <BluesKaj> yeah UBCD lets you boot directly into linux without grub so you can fix it
[03:33] <frederic> BluesKaj: eureka :)
[03:33] <BluesKaj> genii, that's cool ...tv out would be neat
[03:33] <uakkeri> miles: 1st primary sect 1GB /boot... then what? :D
[03:33] <Angelus> ok guys wish me luck
[03:34] <Angelus> im gonna try to compile mesa7.1 and dri from source
[03:34] <miles> uakkeri: you can make a swap partition now of 1.5 G
[03:34] <BluesKaj> what? 1G for boot ?
[03:34] <miles> BluesKaj: yea
[03:34] <frederic> Angelus: good luck :P
[03:34] <miles> no more than 1 gig though
[03:34] <BluesKaj> that's not necesary
[03:34] <Angelus> thankz dude
[03:34] <miles> i read 1 gig from the O'reilly LPCI certification book... just passing on that knowledge
[03:35] <miles> boot cant be larger than 1 gig, or else system might not boot
[03:35] <BluesKaj> all this excess partioning stuff doesn't make the filesystem any safer if the fstab screws up ...I found out the hard way
[03:36] <pCarsten> miles: have you taken some of the LPI certification exams?
[03:36] <miles> no but plan on it soon
[03:36] <miles> as soon as i get out of school
[03:36] <miles> have you pCarsten?
[03:36] <pCarsten> nope.
[03:37] <miles> i hear they are gaining momentum, getting the LPI certification is like getting your drivers license wheras getting RHEC is like getting your license to drive a bmw
[03:37] <fr3d> i know peeps who works for ubisoft montreal who didn't even graduate
[03:37] <fr3d> papers are only confirming knowledge :)
[03:37] <miles> college has only talk me how to make stuff up to get an A
[03:38] <miles> taught*
[03:38] <miles> it didnt teach me proper verb placement
[03:38] <ubuntu> i'm back....
[03:38] <fr3d> ubuntu is your CD Check fine?
[03:38] <uakkeri> miles:i give up. i'm going to learn this one the hard way too
[03:38] <ubuntu> nope..... boo hoo
[03:38] <ubuntu> it had 1 error
[03:38] <miles> uakkeri: bare minimum = swap partition and the rest of /
[03:38] <fr3d> well should be happy you know where the problem is :D
[03:38] <miles> uakkeri:  im not sure how specific you want to get
[03:39] <BluesKaj> we get 50 ubuntu's in here per day ...how do we know which one you are :)
[03:39] <ubuntu> yeah but does that mean my iso is dodgy or my cd i burnt on was
[03:39] <uakkeri> thrust no one! (seen too many x-files episodes)
[03:39] <ubuntu> ...and cant find where to chang my nick
[03:39] <ubuntu> ....havnt really bothered
[03:39] <ubuntu> ...to look
[03:39] <miles> "/nick [new name] "
[03:39] <fr3d> ubuntu for the .iso, verify the checksum(MD5)
[03:39] <fr3d> if it's ok
[03:39] <fr3d> then it's the cd :)
[03:39] <miles> you love it
[03:40] <Turazoor> do what/where? lol
[03:40] <fr3d> Turazoor: to check that, load the .iso in K3B(sudo apt-get k3b)
[03:40] <Mr_Sonoma> yup, now to either try to burn it at a slower pace or to redownload the .iso and try again....maybe burn it from the live cd using k3b then can compare the md5 checksum
[03:40] <fr3d> erf
[03:40] <fr3d> my bad
[03:40] <fr3d> sudo apt-get install k3b
[03:40] <fr3d> :P
[03:40] <Mr_Sonoma> lol fr3d we were thinking right along the same lines it looks like.
[03:40] <fr3d> sure there's 100 ways of doing it, but that's how i do
[03:40] <fr3d> hehehehehe sonoma :)
[03:41] <Turazoor> apparently k3b is already the newest version
[03:41] <Mr_Sonoma> k3b i think is on the live desktop
[03:41] <fr3d> yes right
[03:41] <fr3d> sorry mistaken i ran so many diff, distros lately lol
[03:41] <Turazoor> hmmmm
[03:42] <Mr_Sonoma> so he could use that utility to verify the .iso if the md5 sums check out then a new disk burned at a slower pace would be in order
[03:42] <yaccin> anyone knows a good cd-ripping frontend for MP3 where i can adjust the bitrate and dont have stupid quality-settings?
[03:42] <BluesKaj> hmm, getting a driver's licence is one thing ,but the ability to fix the vehicle when it breaks is something else again :)
[03:42] <fr3d> Turazoor: wich file did you download(.iso)
[03:42] <Turazoor> kubuntu 7.04 i386 via torrent from the main site
[03:43] <fr3d> 1ad3c003dbcbe27b3265da23b886d047 *kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[03:43] <fr3d> here is the checksum
[03:43] <fr3d> verify in K3B if your .iso is the same
[03:43] <miles> BluesKaj: were you referring to me?
[03:43] <Turazoor> so i'm downloading the above checksum using torrent, right?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> just carrying you analogy to it's end
[03:44] <fr3d> Turazoor: no, download the .iso from the website
[03:44] <blekos> anybody tried Tribe5
[03:44] <Turazoor> kk, so what that checksum about? lol..... me = dumbass
[03:44] <Turazoor> lol
[03:44] <miles> o, so you agree with me or not?
[03:44] <fr3d> blekos:  i did
[03:44] <fr3d> crappy for me
[03:44] <fr3d> tribe 4 more safe
[03:44] <Turazoor> ...well i aint a dumbass, this is just all new to me
[03:44] <miles> im coming in and out of the IRC, work is hectic today
[03:44] <Mr_Sonoma> no Turazoor  when you open the .iso in k3b (the linux cd burning software) it does a md5 sum check automatically.
[03:44] <seanpcrowe|> hey all
[03:44] <Mr_Sonoma> compare the 2 numbers should be the same
[03:45] <fr3d> then open up K3B, select Burn CD Image, select your .iso, and let the soft check the Md5
[03:45] <Turazoor> kk
[03:45] <Turazoor> gotta download again then cos iso is on win partition
[03:45] <BluesKaj> nothing to agree or disagree , just adding some reality to the theory miles :)
[03:45] <fr3d> Turazoor: it should be theses : 1ad3c003dbcbe27b3265da23b886d047 , if everything is same , burn it , boot the cd but run check before installing
[03:45] <seanpcrowe|> anyone know if i can stream a movie from another computer on my network without having to copy it ll to this machine first??
[03:46] <fr3d> then if everything is ok, you can say you have a good live cd :)
[03:46] <Turazoor> kk cheers for this
[03:46] <fr3d> no problem happy to help
[03:47] <Turazoor> cool, i'm now downloading
[03:47] <fr3d> according to your questions i assume you are new to ubuntu/linux?
[03:48] <hans> seanpcrowe|: you can with "VLC"
[03:48] <seanpcrowe|> hans, how? do i paste the samba share address??
[03:49] <hans> seanpcrowe|: you can also share the directory with samba
[03:49] <miles> oix
[03:49] <miles> oic
[03:50] <hans> seanpcrowe|: But I thought you wanted to stream it
[03:50] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks fr3d, im sick so im a little slow today, aside from that handling some personal buisiness also related to bills that the phone company roaly mucked up.
[03:50] <seanpcrowe|> hans, could you explain a little further please??
[03:51] <Turazoor> sort off!... i'm new to installing ubuntu, had red hat and suSE running before, and when it comes to the irratating world of windows i can do just about anything
[03:51] <seanpcrowe|> hans, yes... i only have a wireless network.. so copying first is not an option (i was able to just browse to and then play a movies from my server suing windows)
[03:51] <fr3d> Mr_Sonoma: ? Sorry i missed a part of the conversation, why thankin' me? :P
[03:52] <Turazoor> btw.... i have another question... when it comes to wireless networks, am i missing software/protocols on the base live system?
[03:52] <hans> seanpcrowe|: VLC Will allow you to stream to a port on your machine and you can then open that port with your media player of choice (VLC, Xine, Mplayer) on another machine
[03:52] <Mr_Sonoma> fr3d i was originally helpin before we decided he needed to reboot then run the check cd. thing at boot. when he came back you jumped right in, for witch i thank ya cause like i said, im a little slow today
[03:52] <fr3d> Mr_Sonoma: oh ok, no problem :)
[03:52] <fr3d> as i said i'm always happy to help as far as i can
[03:53] <seanpcrowe|> hans... ok i sorta understand... but why can samba not stream the file itself... (like in windows) ????
[03:53] <Mr_Sonoma> Turazoor,  uh your gonna need better help than i on the wireless network thing...last i had network trouble i wound up lookin for help in #networking
[03:54] <hans> seanpcrowe|: Because samba is for sharing the directories, you can also do that
[03:55] <hans> seanpcrowe|: Then you just open the share and play it with media player (or better VLC) on windows
[03:55] <Turazoor> kk, errr.... i'll get that wen i get this prob outta da way
[03:55] <seanpcrowe|> hans... have i to "map" or "mount" a network HDD in order to stream movies??
[03:55] <spiroo> does anyone know if there is one good application/compiler to coding C++ in?
[03:56] <hans> seanpcrowe|: Samba does NOT stream, it remotely "mounts" the directories (and files)
[03:56] <fr3d> Turazoor: in october i think theses problems will be fixed, by GUTSY :D
[03:56] <seanpcrowe|> this confusses me >.<.... lol
[03:56] <spiroo> C++ anyone? :P
[03:56] <Turazoor> what problems specifically?
[03:57] <miles> spiroo: workin on it
[03:57] <fr3d> Turazoor: wireless networking
[03:57] <Mr_Sonoma> <---- trying to wait till oct to upgrade
[03:57] <fr3d> personally i don't use wireless, so as Mr_Sonoma i stand away from that one, just giving you the tip :)
[03:57] <seanpcrowe|> when i browse to a network drive in windows and double click a movie... its opens and plays stright away... samba doesnt do this... it likes to copy the whole thing forst... does this make sence to you hans???
[03:57] <hans> seanpcrowe|: So if you want to use samba, make a share on with the directories that contain the films, "mount" that share on windows and click on the file (film) you want to play
[03:57] <fr3d> Mr_Sonoma: i'm running tribe 4, as i prone since i'm here, tribe 5 messed up bad for me
[03:57] <spiroo> miles: what do you mean with working on it?
[03:58] <miles> tryin to learn C/C++
[03:58] <hans> Samba does not copy the file, windows migth try to do that
[03:58] <Lynoure> miles: Which of those two? :)
[03:58] <spiroo> okay, but I just need an application to code C++ in
[03:58] <Turazoor> i'm not so sure what the problem is, cos linux detects and installs the wireless device.... it just seem to have any useable options lol! and the KnetworkManager seems a complete pile of s**t
[03:58] <miles> C first, then take it OOP with C++
[03:58] <Lynoure> miles: might be confusing to try to learn both at the same time
[03:58] <fr3d> spiroo: can't you code in text editors?
[03:58] <seanpcrowe|> no no hans... my server i can stream in windows, but not in kubuntu with samba (perhaos i am not exolaining right??? )
[03:58] <miles> no no
[03:58] <spiroo> I just started myself btw with C++ in school
[03:58] <Turazoor> as it says im disconnected now... but i obviously aren't
[03:58] <Mr_Sonoma> i tried tribe 3 i think it was on live cd..looks nice but im about to start a online class so i cant afford to risk stability of my primary computer over running bleeding edge OS
[03:58] <miles> i am learning C first, but C++ after
[03:59] <fr3d> Mr_Sonoma:  true
[03:59] <hans> seanpcrowe|: I do not have windows, nor do I use samba, so I can't realy comment on that
[03:59] <seanpcrowe|> lol
[03:59] <fr3d> but seriously, i'm amazed by tribe 4, everything is quite nice, exept konqueror wich freezes up sometimes(use mozilla :P)
[03:59] <miles> what I have learned from C already is giving me a better understanding of programming in general
[03:59] <spiroo> fr3d, maybe, but my teacher said we should use dev c++ which is a windows disgusting app. i need an application which is better and which can compile and run the programs I write.
[04:00] <seanpcrowe|> all i know is that samba will not stream anything, but will copy first... (not what i want)
[04:00] <fr3d> spiroo: ok, you "could" use wine to run the windows software .... *sight*
[04:00] <spiroo> I have great knowledge in PHP which is based on C so It is very easy for me to learn syntax.
[04:00] <fr3d> good good
[04:00] <spiroo> But anyway, a good application anyone?
[04:00] <hans> seanpcrowe|: Sorry but I can't help you with samba
[04:01] <spiroo> Not ever gonna use Wine on this computer
[04:01] <seanpcrowe|> hans, np... thanks for trying dude =)
[04:01] <hans> seanpcrowe|: try opening the file with "VLC" on windows
[04:01] <Mr_Sonoma> fr3d, i dont use kon for anything but a gui file manager anyways...
[04:01] <spiroo> I wanna use a kde software if there is anyone
[04:01] <fr3d> spiroo: http://www.linux-center.org/fr/development/tools/index.html essaye ca
[04:01] <seanpcrowe|> hans, i dont use windows any more... i use kubuntu now...
[04:01] <fr3d> moi je m'y connais pas trop en programmation mais ca semble potable comme rescources :)
[04:01] <spiroo> any repository then in adept which is available?
[04:02] <fr3d> duh
[04:02] <seanpcrowe|> btw hans, playing movies from a network when i was using windows worked perfect... they streamed...
[04:02] <fr3d> sorry no french here lol
[04:02] <fr3d> try that link spiroo
[04:02] <hans> seanpcrowe|: Lol then run VLC on linux ;)
[04:02] <spiroo> I did, in france :S
[04:02] <miles> so you guys hate C
[04:02] <miles> ?
[04:02] <fr3d> yeah sorry lol i'm speaking in french channels
[04:02] <Turazoor> 40 mins left..... lol
[04:03] <fr3d> my brain went crazy
[04:03] <fr3d> i don't hate c
[04:03] <fr3d> i don't know it
[04:03] <fr3d> :P
[04:03] <seanpcrowe|> yeah hans i do... the problrm is that the movie has to copy the whole lot to kubuntu first before playing... it wont stream...
[04:03] <miles> oic
[04:03] <seanpcrowe|> this is very bad
[04:03] <miles> correct me if im wrong, most kernel code is doen in C, right?
[04:03] <hans> seanpcrowe|: But with VLC you CAN stream
[04:03] <fr3d> i think so miles
[04:03] <miles> yea i think its most C and some assembly
[04:04] <spiroo> hehe nice then, maybe I could code me some code apps :D
[04:04] <hans> seanpcrowe|: But things like pausing is a litle hard though:(
[04:04] <seanpcrowe|> when i open a movie in VLC in kubuntu, which is located on my server... it does not stream hans...
[04:04] <seanpcrowe|> it must copy the whole thing forst...
[04:05] <hans> seanpcrowe|: Have you tried nfs to share the files?
[04:05] <seanpcrowe|> with is very bad on a wireless network with 4.4GB 720p movies lol
[04:05] <seanpcrowe|> nfs hans?
[04:05] <hans> seanpcrowe|: Network file system
[04:05] <fr3d> need for speed
[04:05] <fr3d> lol
[04:05] <seanpcrowe|> could you explaine a little more please hans?
[04:07] <hans> seanpcrowe|: You could run VLC on the "server and output to a network port, on the other machine you can use another session of VLC to connect to the port on the server.
[04:08] <hans> seanpcrowe|: http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch07.html#id297955
[04:08] <hans> seanpcrowe|: Just an example
[04:08] <seanpcrowe|> hans i know i can do this... but if i use another player... or another file type in another app... the same problem occurs...
[04:08] <seanpcrowe|> and i dont understand why...
[04:10] <hans> seanpcrowe|: must be a samba issue then
[04:10] <fr3d> any one has tryied gaming whit kubuntu?
[04:11] <seanpcrowe|> hans i just found how to set up a nfs...
[04:11] <seanpcrowe|> thanks for your help dude... =)
[04:11] <seanpcrowe|> ( think that will sort me out)
[04:11] <hans> seanpcrowe|: good luck
[04:13] <Kyuss> hey someone know...if it exists one version of "Prorat" for Linux?
[04:14] <Jucato> what is it
[04:16] <taryan> everybody know how to install pidgin on ubuntu 7.04
[04:16] <Jucato> !pidgin
[04:16] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[04:17] <Turazoor> fr3d... do u know whether i can take the live cd out?
[04:17] <WaltzingAlong> taryan: or you could get the .deb from getdeb.net
[04:17] <BluesKaj> seanpcrowe|, one question ..are you using the smb4k browser
[04:18] <hans> taryan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474071
[04:18] <Turazoor> ok fr3d.... nother question, y does the bloody ktorrent keep closing lol
[04:18] <taryan> thank's
[04:18] <fr3d> Turazoor: take the live cd out .... it asks you when you reboot to remove it
[04:19] <fr3d> and for ktorrent, it closes?
[04:19] <Turazoor> i'm having problems again lol! GRRRR... the KTorrent windows won't stay open lol, and just realisd i am using my cd-burner drive to run live cd
[04:20] <fr3d> ok .... did you burnd and check your new cd(md5 everything..)
[04:20] <Turazoor> ah ha lol!
[04:20] <Turazoor> errr.... apparently i'm full lol
[04:20] <seanpcrowe|> BluesKaj, no... koncerer
[04:20] <seanpcrowe|> Koncorer
[04:20] <seanpcrowe|> Konqueror
[04:20] <seanpcrowe|> lol
[04:20] <fr3d> lol
[04:21] <Turazoor> how do i get to a "My Computer" view?
[04:21] <fr3d> erm there's no my computer
[04:21] <fr3d> but we could say the / directory O.o
[04:21] <Turazoor> well.... how do i c how much space i have?
[04:22] <fr3d> click on the little computer, choose the 2nd option
[04:22] <seanpcrowe|> lulz i had the same problem Turazoor #
[04:22] <fr3d> my OS is in french that's why i can't say how it is in english :P
[04:22] <spiroo> I got big problem with internet. It trying to open .html files in my texteditor. Quite annoying, how to fix so for instance firefox or konqueror handles .html
[04:22] <fr3d> spiroo: lol
[04:22] <fr3d> spiroo:  save blank .html to desktop right-click open whit, select your browser :P
[04:22] <fr3d> and save the setting
[04:23] <seanpcrowe|> Turazoor, right click properties on your root folder
[04:23] <fr3d> or in system settings
[04:23] <spiroo> haha yes, just as that simple?
[04:23] <fr3d> default softwares
[04:23] <spiroo> linux has been more complex before so just wonder :D
[04:23] <fr3d> lol
[04:23] <fr3d> ;)
[04:23] <lazz0> :)
[04:23] <Turazoor> seanpcrowe, it says 2.7kb lol!
[04:24] <Turazoor> and the Free Disk spacee is empty
[04:24] <spiroo> but also the thing is that I wanna open on the computer/desktop the html-files in a texteditor but on internet it should work as usual
[04:26] <fr3d> Turazoor:  open conqueror
[04:26] <fr3d> type in the adress bar : system:/media
[04:27] <fr3d> it should open up your main disks whit cd's(if any inserted)
[04:27] <fr3d> :)
[04:27] <Turazoor> fr3d: is empty
[04:27] <fr3d> arf you run the live cd?
[04:28] <Turazoor> i ran the cd of the iso, i assume the live cd...as i haven't installed yet and im seeing kubuntu
[04:28] <Turazoor> do i need to mount?
[04:28] <fr3d> ok well first of all you must install it :P
[04:29] <fr3d> yes you can mount it too,
[04:29] <Turazoor> lol..... i cant
[04:29] <fr3d> why can't you install?
[04:30] <Turazoor> the install icon on desktop and all it does is bring up the icon in the task area, and then disappears again i dont actuall see it load on screen as such, i fort that was due to this cd error
[04:31] <fr3d> ok.. O.o but this CD shouldn't have any errors you tested it
[04:31] <fr3d> right?
[04:32] <Turazoor> i haven't burnt it yet, i ran out of space, i think, as kTorrent keeps closing after i open i, i think its cos i ran out of space
[04:33] <fr3d> omg
[04:33] <fr3d> ok
[04:33] <fr3d> O.O
[04:33] <Turazoor> lol
[04:33] <Turazoor> i have found the filesystem windows
[04:33] <fr3d> ok good
[04:33] <Turazoor> apparently the only fs im using is a /tmp
[04:33] <fr3d> how much disk space do you have?
[04:33] <Turazoor> haven't found that yet lol
[04:34] <Turazoor> my cd drive sounds like it's about to die lol
[04:35] <fr3d> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:35] <fr3d> download this file
[04:35] <fr3d> and tell me what happens
[04:36] <fr3d> the problem could be because you are running from live cd
[04:37] <fr3d> if you try to put the file on the desktop im not sure where it really saves it since it's livecd, i'm afraid i cannot help you any further :(
[04:37] <fr3d> you'd have to try to save the file on your hard disk
[04:37] <Turazoor> errr.... asked me to "open with" so i chose k3b
[04:37] <fr3d> yes
[04:38] <fr3d> right click the url
[04:38] <fr3d> choose copy
[04:38] <Turazoor> it's downloading to /tmp, which is i think my mounted hard drive
[04:38] <seanpcrowe|> Turazoor, did u find out how much HDD space u got??
[04:38] <Turazoor> nope
[04:38] <fr3d> in terminal type wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:39] <fr3d> seanpcrowe|:  can you handle his problem? I'm getting quite lost and i don't want to confuse him :/
[04:40] <seanpcrowe|> Turazoor, system menu >>> home folder (beside the "start" menu)
[04:40] <Turazoor> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:40] <Turazoor> --15:39:45--  http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:40] <Turazoor>            => `kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso'
[04:40] <Turazoor> Resolving releases.ubuntu.com... 91.189.89.5, 91.189.88.32
[04:40] <Turazoor> Connecting to releases.ubuntu.com|91.189.89.5|:80... connected.
[04:40] <Turazoor> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[04:40] <Turazoor> Length: 727,867,392 (694M) [application/x-iso9660-image] 
[04:40] <Turazoor>  0% [                                     ]  0             --.--K/s
[04:40] <Turazoor> Cannot write to `kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso' (No space left on device).
[04:40] <Turazoor> kk sean
[04:40] <seanpcrowe|> Turazoor, the hit the "up" navagation arrow... then right click that sucker and select properties...
[04:41] <Jucato> !paste | Turazoor
[04:41] <seanpcrowe|> fr3d, if he needs to find out how mucg space he got i can
[04:41] <ubotu> Turazoor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <Turazoor> it says size: 694mb, but no free space entry
[04:42] <AboSamoor> hi all, my task bar  disappeared , how I can restore it ?
[04:42] <fr3d> that is your live cd
[04:42] <seanpcrowe|> your HDD is 700MB???
[04:42] <seanpcrowe|> o.O
[04:42] <Turazoor> nah 180gb
[04:42] <fr3d> seanpcrowe|:  he is running from live cd
[04:42] <seanpcrowe|> ahhhhhhhhhh
[04:42] <fr3d> that is why he can't download a file(kubuntu live cd tryes to put it on the cdrom O.o)
[04:42] <Turazoor> right peeps hang on
[04:43] <AboSamoor> hi all, my task bar  disappeared , how I can restore it ?
[04:44] <seanpcrowe|> i see fr3d, can he not stipulate where the file gets downloaded too??? (asumeing kubuntu can see his HDD)
[04:44] <fr3d> i'm not sure, he has to "mount" his hdd if i'm right
[04:45] <Turazoor> basically..... i have downloaded kubuntu 7.04 i386... burnt the iso to cd... booted the cd, and whilst booting get several errors about "hdc" and "buffer I/O errors".... so i checked the integrity of cd and it says it has 1 error.... however the system is still booting when i go to click Install on desktop, it flashes up in taskbar for a little while, and then close without actualling bringing up anything program like on the
[04:45] <Turazoor> screen
[04:45] <josh_> anyone know how to eject an ipod in amarok?
[04:46] <AboSamoor> how I can restore my taskbar , it disappeared :( ?
[04:46] <seanpcrowe|> Turazoor, "wget --help" <---- see if there is an option to select here to download to
[04:46] <Turazoor> to?
[04:47] <seanpcrowe|> you want to download to your HDD and then burn that sucker... yeah?
[04:47] <fr3d> no no no confusion!
[04:47] <seanpcrowe|> kubuntu ISO
[04:47] <Turazoor> basically yea
[04:47] <fr3d> wget downloads in the directory you're in
[04:47] <seanpcrowe|> lulz
[04:47] <seanpcrowe|> fr3d, yeah thats right
[04:47] <josh_> :(
[04:47] <seanpcrowe|> in his case he cant
[04:47] <Turazoor> so am i typing that ^
[04:47] <fr3d> meaning , using cd ls etc you can manage to put the file wherever you want
[04:47] <seanpcrowe|> cause he booted from a live CD
[04:47] <fr3d> yes
[04:48] <fr3d> he would have to mount his hdd
[04:48] <fr3d> wich would be located in /mnt/
[04:48] <fr3d> :)
[04:48] <drif> although wget -O destination/file
[04:48] <fr3d> tho i can't get him to mount it
[04:48] <seanpcrowe|> Turazoor, can u see your HDD?
[04:48] <Turazoor> dont think so.... no
[04:48] <seanpcrowe|> is it formated in NTFS ??? (cause this might be bad)
[04:49] <Turazoor> nope as far as i know... it's empty and possibly FAT32
[04:49] <seanpcrowe|> mmmm, i have not managed HDD's in leenoox yet so i cant really help...
[04:49] <seanpcrowe|> ah...
[04:50] <Turazoor> just removed windows from PC and formatted, going to assume win formatted into FAT21
[04:50] <Turazoor> ***FAT 32
[04:50] <seanpcrowe|> the installer manages your HDD... formats etc for you =)
[04:50] <josh_> anyone know how to eject an ipod in amarok?
[04:50] <josh_> anyone?
[04:50] <fr3d> his cd is corrupted..
[04:50] <Turazoor> yeah but cant install
[04:50] <Turazoor> AHHHHHHHHHHHH
[04:50] <Turazoor> lol
[04:50] <hans> josh_: umount?
[04:50] <fr3d> wait up Turazoor ill see if you can format a partition whit the partition editor
[04:50] <Turazoor> kk
[04:50] <seanpcrowe|> Turazoor, you might have to go to a friend box and redownload theh kubuntu image and this time burn the fecker slowly...
[04:51] <Mr_Sonoma> still working on the korrupted cd?
[04:51] <Turazoor> indeed mr sonoma
[04:51] <drif> I'd suggest using good brand media
[04:51] <seanpcrowe|> and slow burns
[04:51] <fr3d> Mr_Sonoma:  yes the problem is that he's running from livecd whit formatted HDD so he can't download the .iso to burn it
[04:51] <seanpcrowe|> slowish
[04:51] <Mr_Sonoma> did the md5 sums check out?
[04:51] <drif> seanpcrowe|: haven't noticed speed being factor when using quality medias
[04:51] <Turazoor> kk peeps.... i have one Mr.Data CD lol
[04:51] <Turazoor> so low brand lol
[04:52] <fr3d> lolol
[04:52] <Mr_Sonoma> he cant mount the hard drive and check the md5 sum on what he already has?
[04:52] <seanpcrowe|> mmm, perhaps drif... i always burn slow becuase i use tesco value CD/DVD's... rofl
[04:52] <Turazoor> but never had problem before
[04:52] <drif> seanpcrowe|: :D
[04:52] <josh_> eh
[04:52] <drif> verbatims have always been good value to money
[04:53] <WaltzingAlong> josh_: pumount ?
[04:53] <Turazoor> i'll boot the ancient PC up, and download again and burn and c if i have same problem peeps
[04:54] <Turazoor> kk.... i'll c u all in a bit..... Thanks for the Help
[04:54] <Turazoor> .... tis much appreciated... reckon i'll get a t and fag break in first tho lol
[04:54] <Mr_Sonoma> i've been using durabrand cd-r thats like 5 years old without issue Turazoor
[04:54] <Turazoor> coolio....
[04:54] <Turazoor> we shall c hey
[04:55] <fr3d> Turazoor: hope you get everything to work
[04:55] <Mr_Sonoma> yes i sincerely do hope so too
[04:55] <Turazoor> me to
[04:55] <Turazoor> kk peeps bye
[04:55] <janko_> Witam
[04:56] <janko_> Poraz pierwszy w zyciu zainstalowalem linuxa ;-) i chciabym si dowiedziec gdzie w ubuntu moge znalezc jakis odpowiednik gg
[04:56] <fr3d> o.O
[04:58] <fr3d> i must go, goodbye 'til next time :)
[04:58] <Jucato> !pl | janko_
[04:58] <ubotu> janko_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:00] <janko_> thx ;-)
[05:01] <spiroo> how do I backup with Keep in Gutsy, always give me error about rdiff backup directory does not exists blablabla ...
[05:06] <miles> userspace = anything not directly related to the kernel
[05:07] <miles> userspace sits above a shell, right?
[05:07] <miles> or userspace = shell
[05:07] <miles> ?
[05:07] <Armagguedes> hellp
[05:08] <spiroo> anuone?
[05:08] <SlimeyPete> miles: shell runs in userspace AFAIK
[05:08] <Armagguedes> can someone tell me if Tribe5 is stable?
[05:08] <stdin> Armagguedes: no, it's not. it's Alpha
[05:09] <Armagguedes> yeah, but i've used alphas that were perfectly usable
[05:09] <spiroo__> so?
[05:09] <stdin> Armagguedes: it can, and probably will, break
[05:09] <Armagguedes> since i cant use my Kubuntu right now (internet is not working), i thought of instead of formatting, just upgrading to the next
[05:09] <miles> what is AFAIK?
[05:10] <miles> !AFAIK
[05:10] <SlimeyPete> As Far As I Know
[05:10] <miles> o
[05:10] <miles> thanks
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <stdin> Armagguedes: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy questions
[05:10] <Armagguedes> ok tks anyway
[05:11] <cvstrat> i freshly installed kubuntu, updated, and logged into the new kernel, i install and enable the nvidia-glx drivers, x wont start, i run configure xserver xorg, and enable vesa, then log into x and enable the nvidia drivers and it works
[05:11] <Armagguedes> btw, I cant access the internet, but i can ping everything inside my intranet; what can I check=
[05:11] <cvstrat> however my restart and shutdown buttons are gone, and there is a system error w/power management when i boot up
[05:11] <Armagguedes> i have it laid out here :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3199148
[05:12] <cvstrat> my question is why do i have to enable the nvidia drivers twice for them to work, and why does changing my vid driver mess with my logout options?
[05:12] <sparrw> i am going to have to downgrade to ubuntu 6.06 to get a proprietary driver to work  :(
[05:16] <Taladan> Armagguedes: do you have a router or an internal DNS server on your network?
[05:18] <mikkael> hey guys..would you recommend me to install kubuntu-desktop or kde-core with kdm and xorg on a command-line system ?
[05:19] <Armagguedes> my router is my modem
[05:19] <Armagguedes> and everything works, except for my kubuntu boot
[05:19] <Armagguedes> currently i am on my laptop, but in XP instead of Linux
[05:19] <Armagguedes> and it works, as you can see
[05:19] <Taladan> yeah?  try doing an sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:19] <Taladan> It may not be picking up the DNS servers correctly
[05:20] <Armagguedes> done that
[05:20] <Armagguedes> a very long time ago
[05:20] <Armagguedes> Taladan, have you checked the forum?
[05:20] <Taladan> Generally, no
[05:21] <Taladan> What am I supposed to check the forum for?
[05:21] <dabbler> Hi all. Is it possible to export akregator 'bookmarks' ? or just copy them ?
[05:21] <Feudster> Anyone feel like helping a linux noob  get mp3 working?
[05:21] <llutz> !mp3
[05:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:21] <llutz> Feudster: ^^
[05:22] <Taladan> dabbler: probably under file->Export Feeds...?
[05:22] <Armagguedes> my post
[05:22] <Feudster> yes i have just installed ubuntu for the first time and because its all open source no mp3 codec
[05:22] <Armagguedes> i ahve posted this issue there
[05:22] <Armagguedes> but noone knows
[05:22] <llutz> !mp3 | Feudster
[05:22] <ubotu> Feudster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:22] <Armagguedes> or at least tips given so far have produced no results
[05:22] <Taladan> Armagguedes: nope, I generally don't spend a bunch of time on the forums, sorry
[05:22] <Feudster> thankyou kindly
[05:22] <dabbler> k.  will try
[05:23] <U238Willy> why is it that most large tomes on ubuntu focus on gnome and not the best window manager ever, KDE?
[05:23] <Taladan> what do you get when you try a 'route' on that box?
[05:24] <llutz> !best
[05:24] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:24] <U238Willy> yes.. treu
[05:24] <U238Willy> *true
[05:24] <Taladan> U238Willy: Because Ubuntu uses the gnome wm by default.  If Kubuntu wants to publish a book, then I'm sure they can ;)
[05:25] <U238Willy> there should be!! is there one?
[05:25] <Taladan> Dunno
[05:25] <U238Willy> i'm looking to tweak my Kontact.. any suggestions?
[05:27] <Feudster> the restricted package failed to install   arrrgggghhhhh they dont make it easy for noobs
[05:27] <Taladan> Feudster: do you have the multiverse repo enabled?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm... I dont suppose anyone has ever used the SIRUS radio site web site/online radio player with linux? it wants a pluign.. and it says it needs 'unknown plugin (application/X-oldobject)'
[05:28] <Feudster> err not sure what that is
[05:28] <jhutchins> Feudster: Actually, the do.  You're not recompiling the kernel.
[05:28] <jhutchins> !repos | Feudster
[05:28] <ubotu> Feudster: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:29] <Taladan> Recompiling isn't that bad...if you know how to make a bunch of mind numbing choices and then have several hours to wait for it to recompile
[05:30] <sparrw> what sort of pain am i inviting by installing an old debian kernel package on an ubuntu system?
[05:30] <Feudster> now my add remove is broken
[05:30] <Feudster> this sucks
[05:30] <Feudster> ive had it without add remove havent i
[05:32] <neusonce> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr guys my adept manager  is tell me "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." but iv just booted my computer 2 times and left it off  for while ????????????????????? so angry
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[05:33] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:33] <Dr_willis> data base is locked - is my bet. :)
[05:34] <sparrw> will i have problems having multiple ubuntu versions in my sources.list?  feisty+edgy+dapper...
[05:35] <llutz> sparrw: sooner or later, sure
[05:36] <rustalot> How do I get the .deb file for the package xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[05:36] <gary> hello i need help i installed kbuntu on my laptop works great  everything works till i do updates
[05:36] <ibert> hi. Can anyone give me a hint, how I can split up an string to a list in the bash?
[05:36] <llutz> rustalot: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[05:37] <pag> gary, what's wrong with updates then?
[05:37] <pag> gary, OpenOffice.org font-thingy, maybe?
[05:37] <gary> my sound does not work after update
[05:38] <pag> oh... tried rebooting to an older kernel?
[05:38] <rustalot> llutz: I can't do that, because I haven't set up the (broadcom) ethernet card, and I don't have a wireless network
[05:38] <miles> does anyone know where main.c is located on a typical ubuntu install?
[05:38] <miles> im looking in /usr/src/linux but cant find it
[05:38] <rustalot> llutz: so I need to get the .deb file so I can install
[05:39] <gary> braod com in not supported
[05:39] <rustalot> llutz: because I have no GUI
[05:39] <llutz> rustalot: you will also need all the dependencies
[05:39] <rustalot> oh, crap
[05:39] <ibert> miles: /usr/src/linux  should be a link to the recent kernel-files..
[05:39] <llutz> rustalot: setup you ethernet
[05:39] <jason__10> Hello people
[05:39] <gary> i have it had to right  a  new driverbroadcom wirless
[05:39] <rustalot> llutz: how?
[05:40] <miles> yea i know i didnt feel like typing it out
[05:40] <miles> my understanding is that main.c is located inside the init folder of the linux src
[05:40] <rustalot> llutz: it has no drier; I can't use it
[05:40] <ibert> miles: sorry.
[05:40] <miles> no im sorry
[05:40] <llutz> rustalot: no driver?
[05:41] <rustalot> llutz: it's made by broadcom
[05:41] <llutz> rustalot: my notebook-ethernet is broadcom too, works perfekt
[05:42] <gary> can you use rpm on  debian distros
[05:42] <Arwen> !rpm
[05:42] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:42] <llutz> rustalot: which card is it exactly?
[05:42] <jason__10> gary:  yes but you have to use alien
[05:42] <rustalot> llutz: I'm not sure
[05:42] <llutz> rustalot: lspci
[05:42] <jason__10> gary what software are you trying to install?
[05:42] <gary> ok what about tar ballz
[05:43] <miles> tar balls are your friend gary!
[05:43] <rustalot> Broadcom Corp. unknown device 1713
[05:43] <gary> my plugins for mozilla
[05:43] <jason__10> gary i see.
[05:43] <miles> you can install plugins for mozilla through mozilla itself
[05:44] <neusonce> guys i just did e fresh install after coming from suse , adept manger locked me out now its saying if i install i will  mess with my machine
[05:44] <neusonce> i just need to install java
[05:44] <neusonce>  dummm dumm dar
[05:44] <miles> !find sun
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: iiimf-le-sun-hong-kong-chinese, iiimf-le-sun-simplified-chinese, iiimf-le-sun-thai, iiimf-le-sun-traditional-chinese, libapache-mod-tsunami (and 27 others)
[05:44] <miles> !find sun-java
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: sun-java5-bin, sun-java5-demo, sun-java5-doc, sun-java5-fonts, sun-java5-jdk (and 12 others)
[05:44] <jason__10> neusonce:
[05:44] <jason__10> neusonce:  sounds bad
[05:45] <llutz> rustalot: try "sudo modprobe tg3"
[05:45] <llutz> rustalot: if that doesn't work, try ndiswrapper
[05:45] <neusonce> sarcasm is lame
[05:46] <jason__10> neusonce: do you have gaim?
[05:46] <ahmedshaheen> Hi I want to see my GTK+  applications look& feel in kubuntu looks like it's look and feel in Fedora
[05:46] <rustalot> so after I do the modprobe tg3, do I just plug in the ethernet cable
[05:46] <neusonce> amsn
[05:47] <llutz> rustalot: try a "ifconfig eth0" then
[05:47] <jason__10> whats your msn account
[05:47] <ahmedshaheen> I changed the theme & fonts from the gtk-qt plugin in kcontrol but it is not the same as fedora
[05:47] <gary> i have tried it takes me too mozilla site to download plugins then it gives me option for rpm tar ballz and yum
[05:48] <neusonce> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[05:48] <neusonce> god dammm
[05:48] <jason__10> neusonce:  i might be able to help, can you add me to your msn
[05:49] <neusonce> i just wanna add java-gcj-compat and count_lucy@hotmail.com
[05:49] <jason__10> thanks
[05:50] <rustalot> llutz: nope, doesn't work
[05:51] <llutz> rustalot: "doesn't work" is not a helpfull errormsg
[05:51] <jason__10> neusonce:  you logged in amsn?
[05:51] <rustalot> llutz: it doesn't have an assigned ip addr
[05:51] <llutz> rustalot: sudo dhclient3 eth0
[05:52] <neusonce> just did
[05:52] <llutz> rustalot: or do you use static ips?
[05:56] <rustalot> llutz: I'm using dhcp; it didnt work "No DHCPOFFERS recieved."
[05:57] <llutz> rustalot: are you sure, you dhcp-server works?
[05:57] <rustalot> yeah
[05:57] <llutz> and cable is attached
[05:57] <rustalot> yeah
[05:57] <llutz> so try ndiswrapper then :)
[05:58] <rustalot> llutz: I'm going to try going to my friend's and using his wifi
[05:58] <rustalot> llutz: thanks for the help. I might end up getting an ethernet ExpressCard. bye
[05:59] <llutz> rustalot: just wait a while, someone will modify the drivers to get it working
[06:03] <nosrednaekim> kinda quiet here
[06:03] <jason__10> nosrednaekim: I can actually hear a baby screaming where I am so....
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> :)
[06:05] <bjwebb> hi
[06:05] <bjwebb> my x is broke :S
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: ok... what did you do>
[06:07] <bjwebb> nosrednaekim: not much
[06:07] <bjwebb> unalbe to write to /tmp it says
[06:07] <bjwebb> it happened when i logged out and then logged in
[06:07] <bjwebb> all ive done recently is changed mtab
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: hmmmm it gave you a text login?
[06:08] <bjwebb> nah
[06:08] <bjwebb> i get kdm login
[06:08] <bjwebb> and when i log in i get an error from x
[06:09] <jhutchins> bjwebb: been running gui programs with sudo?
[06:09] <bjwebb> jhutchins: i don't think so
[06:09] <llutz> bjwebb: changing mtab is a bad idea
[06:09] <jhutchins> bjwebb: disk space available?
[06:09] <bjwebb> llutz: hmm yeah
[06:09] <jason__10> bjwebb: hmm have you tried going back to the original mtab, linux should have saved the previous version
[06:09] <jhutchins> bjwebb: mtab is generated on the fly.
[06:10] <bjwebb> jhutchins: o rite
[06:10] <jhutchins> jason__10: Won't make any difference, mtab is generated on the fly.
[06:10] <jason__10> jhutchins:  what would happen if you removed the current mtab, rebooted
[06:10] <jhutchins> fstab is the control file.
[06:10] <DaleksUnited> interesting question about KWallet if anyone has a spare minute or two
[06:10] <jhutchins> jason__10: You'd screw things up.
[06:11] <pag> DaleksUnited, ask the question, and someone may answer.
[06:11] <jhutchins> bjwebb: make sure there's space and that /tmp is writable by all, clear out spurious files, if you find nothing shutdown -F -r now.
[06:11] <DaleksUnited> ok
[06:11] <bjwebb> jhutchins: o rite
[06:11] <jhutchins> bjwebb: I'd suggest that you shut down kdm from console before clearing /tmp
[06:11] <DaleksUnited> I have a wireless network set up, and when I put in the WEP passkey the first time its saved it in this KWallet thing
[06:12] <DaleksUnited> so now every time the PC boots it asks me for the KWallet password before it can connect to the network
[06:12] <bjwebb> jhutchins: clearing as in deleting files in it or delete /tmp itself?
[06:12] <jason__10> DaleksUnited:  whats the question?
[06:12] <jason__10> ahh
[06:12] <DaleksUnited> is there any way to just make it connect automatically?
[06:12] <jason__10> DaleksUnited:  have you got msn?
[06:12] <DaleksUnited> yeah
[06:12] <llutz> DaleksUnited: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:12] <bjwebb> DaleksUnited: use a blank pass for the wallet?
[06:12] <jason__10> whats your account id be more than happy to help
[06:12] <jason__10> bjwebb:  the wallet is supposed to secure all your passwords
[06:12] <bjwebb> jason__10: lol
[06:12] <jhutchins> bjwebb: don't delete /tmp
[06:13] <jason__10> DaleksUnited:  add jasoonthebaboon@hotmail.com
[06:13] <jhutchins> bjwebb: If you're in console, no reason not to rm -rf /tmp/*
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> jason__10: congrats... spam coming your way
[06:14] <llutz> jason__10: try to help people here in the chan, so other can read soltutions too and maybe learn
[06:15] <seanpcrowe> anyone know how i can disable that ghey kwallet???
[06:15] <pag> seanpcrowe, kcontrol -> security -> kwallet
[06:15] <jhutchins> That's two in three minutes.
[06:16] <jhutchins> kwallet == Do Not Want!
[06:16] <seanpcrowe> thanks pag
[06:17] <seanpcrowe> yeah jhatlelid is pretty ghey
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> I like the Kwallet.
[06:17] <jason__10> llutz:  no problems
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> nice for storing all my email passwords
[06:17] <pag> !tab | seanpcrowe
[06:17] <ubotu> seanpcrowe: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:17] <jason__10> llutz:  the things is Im asking people if I solve there problem to look at my website... which is to support my sister with cancer and I dont wanna look like a spammer
[06:18] <seanpcrowe> yeah pag thats an awesome feature =)
[06:20] <Feudster> Anyone here good with graphics drivers?
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> Feudster: why?
[06:20] <jhutchins> !ati | Feudster
[06:20] <ubotu> Feudster: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> Feudster: ask your question and maybe we can help
[06:20] <Feudster> i have just reinstalled ubuntu and my graphic cards fan is on max all the time
[06:21] <Feudster> im guessing i need to install a better driver
[06:21] <bjwebb_> hi
[06:21] <Feudster> hi
[06:21] <Feudster> i have a nvidia 7900gt
[06:21] <bjwebb_> what were you saying i should do about /tmp ?
[06:21] <seanpcrowe> does kubuntu come with an email app like outlook does anyone know (that can handle hotmail)???
[06:22] <Feudster> i will try a restart
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> Feudster: ah...ok. not sure if that can be fixed..
[06:22] <bjwebb_> seanpcrowe: kmail?
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> seanpcrowe: if hotmail can do pop... yeah.
[06:22] <seanpcrowe> hotmail is http based... no pop
[06:22] <seanpcrowe> kmail... ok bjwebb_
[06:22] <bjwebb_> seanpcrowe: how does outlook do it then?
[06:23] <seanpcrowe> bjwebb_, i dunno, it just handles http mail accounts as if they where pop
[06:23] <seanpcrowe> >.< katapault no longer loads on boot
[06:23] <seanpcrowe> katapolt
[06:24] <seanpcrowe> katapult
[06:24] <seanpcrowe> lol
[06:24] <seanpcrowe> mmmm, kmail doesnt appear to be installed with kubuntu
[06:24] <llutz> it is, just n menu-entry
[06:25] <llutz> use alt-f2
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb_: can you login on the command line?
[06:25] <Feudster> Help my graphics card is set to self destruct
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> Feudster: you doing anything graphics intensive?
[06:26] <Feudster> nothing at all
[06:26] <Feudster> just irc
[06:26] <gary> im getting tired of trying to figuer this out
[06:26] <gary> i need my sound to work
[06:26] <miles> does anyone know a java dev channel on freenode?
[06:26] <gary> it worked before updates
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> gary: ok.. be a bit more specific.
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> gary: do you know what the updates included?
[06:27] <gary> i think its the sound driver
[06:27] <bjwebb> hmm can someone help me with my X problems?
[06:27] <gary> maybe
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> Feudster: try touching your graphics card to see if it is actually hot
[06:28] <gary> or the kernel
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> gary: did the kernel get updated?
[06:28] <gary> yes
[06:28] <pag> gary, does it still work with the older one?
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> gary: you know you can still boot the old kernel
[06:28] <Feudster> Its not hot at all
[06:28] <Feudster> but fan on max
[06:28] <bjwebb> :S
[06:29] <gary> how do i boot the old kernel in graphic mode
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> Feudster: hmmm odd.
[06:29] <Feudster> it didnt do it the first time i installed ubuntu
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> Feudster: might be a bad Nvidia driver.... so it just annoying right?
[06:29] <Feudster> should i install nvidia driver
[06:29] <Feudster> it will wear the fan out
[06:29] <jason__10> gary: try in grub
[06:30] <gary> ok
[06:30] <gary> brb
[06:30] <jason__10> gary:  wait  asec
[06:30] <gary> if it does not work
[06:30] <bjwebb> i can't get x :S
[06:30] <gary> ooh ok
[06:30] <gary> what
[06:30] <Feudster> i havent installed any drivers  just using the ubuntu  drivers
[06:30] <pag> gary, you should have 4 options on boot... new, new (recovery), old, old (recovery)
[06:30] <jason__10> gary:  in grub you should be able to just choose the old kernel, you might wanna edit the menu.lst file to automaticall boot into old kernel
[06:31] <gary> ok
[06:31] <pag> gary, of course it doesn't say "old" or "new" but you can figure it out - which one has a smaller version number is the older
[06:31] <gary> yeah lol
[06:31] <gary> okttyl
[06:32] <rustalot> how do I tell if a package is installed?
[06:32] <jason__10> rustalot:  open adept and search for it
[06:32] <rustalot> from the cmd line
[06:33] <pag> rustalot, apt-cache policy package
[06:33] <jason__10> DaleksUnited:  that was the worst excuse ever ! :)
[06:33] <DaleksUnited> are you the jason from my brothers msn?
[06:33] <jason__10> DaleksUnited:  lol yes
[06:34] <jason__10> DaleksUnited:  don't worry (Y)
[06:34] <DaleksUnited> i just phoned him - he says dont sit around 'like a tit' - he'll contact you on IRC if he still needs a hand
[06:34] <seanpcrowe> how do u make kopete run at startup??
[06:34] <jason__10> lol
[06:34] <seanpcrowe> i can find no option for it
[06:34] <pag> seanpcrowe, don't close it ;)
[06:35] <jason__10> DaleksUnited:  its just the fact that he removed me from his contact list... I don't stay on IRC all night and I know exactly what his problem is
[06:35] <bjwebb> can someone help, X won't start - and says it can't write to /tmp
[06:35] <seanpcrowe> lol pag, i mean when i reboot...
[06:35] <Taladan> seanpcrowe: put it in your autorun directory
[06:35] <seanpcrowe> Taladan, thats something i aint dome with anything yet... how do i do it?#
[06:35] <pag> seanpcrowe, most (KDE) apps launch itself, if you haven't closed them manually
[06:35] <llutz> seanpcrowe: session-management will start it again after reboot if it runs when login-off
[06:35] <llutz> Taladan: no need
[06:35] <jason__10> bjwebb:  I think its because you wrote to mtab
[06:36] <jason__10> I would re install and just try and keep your home directory
[06:36] <gary> jason
[06:36] <Taladan> seanpcrowe: cd ~/.kde/Autostart;ln -s /usr/bin/kopete .
[06:36] <gary> u there
[06:36] <seanpcrowe> llutz, no, it never starts again after a reboot... i have to start it manuallly
[06:36] <pag> seanpcrowe, but if you want the manual way: ln -s /usr/bin/kopete ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:36] <Feudster> Can someone babysit me through installing an nvidia driver please
[06:36] <seanpcrowe> ok guys... thanks for your help =)
[06:36] <jason__10> gary:  hello
[06:37] <llutz> seanpcrowe: enable session-saving in kcontrol
[06:37] <bjwebb> jason__10: hmm maybe, but it might also be because i have no space
[06:37] <gary> hey that worked thanks
[06:37] <jason__10> bjwebb:  ahhh
[06:37] <gary> it was the kernel
[06:37] <seanpcrowe> llutz, i disabled that... when i reboot i like a fresh session
[06:37] <jason__10> gary:  no problems mate :)
[06:37] <gary> now everything works
[06:37] <Taladan> llutz is right though.  If you save your session, it should autostart whatever was running last.
[06:37] <gary> sweet
[06:37] <gary> thanks dude
[06:37] <seanpcrowe> i dont like that though Taladan ...
[06:37] <jason__10> gary  let me guess, you updated... then realised not all your drivers were configured in the new kernel, but they were in the older one
[06:37] <gary> now if i can get one last thing to work
[06:38] <gary> i will be totally hapy
[06:38] <jason__10> what is it gary?
[06:38] <gary> i have a broadcom wireless and it will not work
[06:38] <gary> any sugesstions
[06:39] <nosrednaekim> yeah... just a second.. let me find a link for you
[06:39] <Taladan> gary: http://www.lclue.org/forums/index.php?topic=329.0
[06:39] <gary> gateway laptop
[06:39] <jason__10> gary unfortunately setting up wireless can be a long effort of trial and error. Have a look at my website http://stimulus.newsit.es If you still having trouble
[06:39] <gary> running kubuntu
[06:39] <gary> feisty 70.4
[06:39] <Taladan> gary?
[06:39] <Taladan> http://www.lclue.org/forums/index.php?topic=329.0
[06:39] <Taladan> read that
[06:39] <jason__10> Taladan:  that looks like a great link for gary
[06:40] <Angelus> how can i install AIGLX ?
[06:40] <Taladan> jason__10: now that you mention it....
[06:40] <jason__10> Angelus:  if your hardware supports it I think it is just a feature isnt it?
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> gary: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> jason__10: yep
[06:40] <Angelus> jason__10: then how can i enable  it?
[06:40] <jason__10> nosrednaekim:  im better than i realised
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> :)
[06:40] <jason__10> Angelus:  Try and update your gfx drivers
[06:40] <jason__10> or try a different version.
[06:41] <Feudster> can someone point me in the right direction for installing a graphics driver plz
[06:41] <neverblue> can you get pidgin from anywhere? not compiling from source...
[06:41] <jason__10> Feudster:  what hardware do you have?
[06:41] <neverblue> Feudster, type of card ?
[06:41] <nosrednaekim> neverblue: yeah... www.getdeb.net
[06:41] <Feudster> nvidia 7900 gt
[06:41] <nosrednaekim> or maybe its org
[06:41] <Angelus> jason__10: but what must i add in the xorg.conf to use it?
[06:42] <Feudster> it didnt do this last time i installed ubuntu this morning
[06:42] <neverblue> thanks nosrednaekim
[06:42] <jason__10> Angelus:  hmm, are you trying to get beryl working>
[06:42] <nosrednaekim> neverblue: NP
[06:42] <Feudster> i really want to continue using ubuntu   but im not prepared to kill a 200 graphics card
[06:43] <Angelus> yes jason__10 and i looked at the wiki on kubuntu.org in the configuration sextion it just says how for edgy and dapper
[06:43] <Feudster> any help would be much appreciated
[06:43] <neverblue> nosrednaekim, get it to install yourself?
[06:43] <jason__10> Angelus:  have you tried the built in desktop effects?
[06:43] <gary> ok how do u navigate in konsole to the directory i need to install a tarball
[06:43] <Angelus> no, but i wish to use CompizFushion
[06:43] <gary> im new to linux
[06:43] <gary> but hate windows so
[06:44] <gary> i have to learn
[06:44] <Arwen> ...
[06:44] <llutz> gary: use tar -C /path/to/extract
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> neverblue: nah.. I just stuck with GAIM
[06:44] <miles> how do you recursively change ownership of a folder and all its contents?
[06:44] <Arwen> Hating windows means that you live in the dark doesn't it?
[06:44] <gary> i type that
[06:44] <llutz> miles chown -R
[06:44] <Arwen> miles, chown -R
[06:44] <miles> chown miles [folder] 
[06:44] <miles> ah
[06:44] <Arwen> careful of symlinks
[06:44] <miles> thats what i had
[06:44] <miles> k thanks
[06:45] <gary> in run or k konsole
[06:45] <gary> im a mac user
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> gary: to change directories you do "cd <directory>" and "cd .." to go up one directoery
[06:45] <gary> but i like linux
[06:45] <gary> im used to using mandrake
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> gary: mac and linux are pretty much the same when you go to the command line
[06:46] <Turazoor> Mr_sonoma: downloaded and burnt off, and integrity check shows no errors, and the install is working lol! Shud of used common sense really lol, and checked b4 i came on here lol!@
[06:46] <gary> but it does not work on my laptop
[06:46] <llutz> gary: cd/tar and all that works exactly the same way in mandrake
[06:46] <gary> so i have to use debian dont i
[06:46] <gary> lol
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> I guess so :)
[06:47] <gary> ok it time to feed my kid so ttyl thanks jason10  very much dude you were a big help
[06:48] <jason__10>  btw anyone here who thinks I Have helped them with their kubuntu.. can help me by giving some nice karma. http://stimulus.007ihost.com/jenna.html  and donate 1 to my sister who is dying (sorry about that)
[06:48] <gary> i use to use rpms
[06:49] <gary> just click and they installed
[06:49] <gary> lol
[06:53] <Turazoor> peeps.... quick question on setting up partitions.... i have 200gb drive, i wanna save 50gbs... but hows should i setup the other 150gb for linux to perform best etc.
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: but the 150 gigs first..
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> the close to the begining of the disc, the better performance
[06:55] <Turazoor> kk... shud i just have the one 150gb partition then?.. or do i need to setup a swap disk.. or anyother partiontions with like /usr /boot /tmp etc?
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: yeah, one swap, and I reccomend having a separate/home partition.
[06:56] <Turazoor> how big shud i make the swap and primary linux partition then, and i'll use whats left for /home
[06:56] <Turazoor> as i beleive the /home is where u store stuff.... yrah?
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> swap should be about 2 gigs.... 15 gigs should be plenty for /
[06:58] <Turazoor> and setting the swap, i change the Use as: to swap, right? to i have to specify a mount point, and what exactly is it?
[06:59] <bjwebb> yah it works :D
[06:59] <jason__10> hmm I have 1 gig of ram and 700 meg swap... the reason why was because I had 2 gig swap but ubuntu never used it, it always used the ram... any idea?
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: sweet
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: yeah, just set it as swap.. no ned for a mount point
[07:00] <Turazoor> kk do well
[07:00] <bjwebb> nosrednaekim: i had a 16GB log file :D
[07:00] <nosrednaekim> wow
[07:00] <llutz> jason__10: 90% of the users with 1GB ram never need any swap. but if you want to use suspend-to-disk or use apps causing high mem-load it's nice to have more swap
[07:00] <drif> bjwebb: which app or general login?
[07:00] <bjwebb> drif: time-vault
[07:01] <Arwen> llutz, swap is needed no matter how much RAM you have
[07:01] <llutz> Arwen: no
[07:01] <Arwen> because having more available RAM is always better
[07:01] <llutz> Arwen: RAM != swap
[07:01] <Arwen> but when things are swapped out, you have MORE RAM
[07:01] <Arwen> *doing*
[07:01] <llutz> Arwen: thats why i said 90%, they never use any swap-sapce
[07:02] <llutz> space
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> jason__10: if you ever compile something and don't have enough swap.. well, instant computer freeze :)
[07:02] <Arwen> llutz, even if they don't "need" it, it will still improve performance to have it
[07:02] <jason__10> uh huh
[07:02] <Turazoor> kk tis setup as such: /dev/hda1 | ext3 | / | 15002mb           /       /dev/hda3 | ext3 \ /home | 183045mb         /      /dev/hda2 | swap | | 1998mb
[07:02] <llutz> Arwen: it won't because it isn't used
[07:02] <Arwen> because inactive threads can be swapped out and ones that would benefit from more cache can use it
[07:02] <Arwen> llutz, ^^
[07:02] <Arwen> if your swap isn't used, it's malconfigured
[07:03] <llutz> Arwen: no improvement at all: Swap:      2441840          0    2441840
[07:03] <Arwen> if your swap isn't used, it's malconfigured
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: looks good I guess :)
[07:03] <llutz> Arwen: not if you have enough physical ram
[07:04] <ubuntu_> Hello, i really need some help with this problem. Windows XP wont startup anymore, so i inserted the kubuntu live cd which I am using right now. It wont let me go into the harddrive it says "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999"
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: you don't have extra 50 gigs yet though...
[07:04] <ubuntu_> its very important that i get it to work as it is the only place i have my masters thesis saved
[07:04] <Arwen> llutz, you can never have enough physical ram
[07:04] <Turazoor> ahhh s**t well reminded lol!
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: do you have linux installed?
[07:04] <llutz> Arwen: buzzwords, not helpfull
[07:04] <Arwen> if you treat RAM as something that you should use as little of as possible, then you're wasting your resources
[07:04] <ubuntu_> no, i am only on the ubuntu live cd right now
[07:04] <Arwen> rather, you should use ALL of it, 100% of the time
[07:05] <ubuntu_> windows doesn't startup anymore, i get a blue screen
[07:05] <Arwen> same with CPU time
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: ok now, do you know if you have a serial ATA HD or an IDE?
[07:05] <ubuntu_> ide, its a laptop
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> hey
[07:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Adressing the older people in here: Which video card is better, an ATI Rage Pro or an S3 Trio 3D?
[07:06] <ubuntu_> any suggestions on how i can get access to it so that i can email the thesis to myself?
[07:06] <ubuntu_> i would really appreciate this
[07:07] <cris_> hay
[07:07] <cris_> from?
[07:07] <cris_> hallo
[07:08] <cris_> from?
[07:08] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: ok, run this command from the command line "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt"
[07:08] <llutz> Arwen: 100% RAM usage is ok, but unneeded use of swap slows down the system and, at a certain amount of RAM the administration of cache/buffers will slow the system down too
[07:08] <cris_> someone help me pls
[07:08] <cris_> i need the 3d efeckt
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> cris_: beryl?
[07:09] <cris_> yes
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> cris_: help for that is in #ubuntu-effects
[07:10] <Arwen> llutz, but that's a lot different from saying "no swap is needed". Would you like bigbloatyapp #1 to have every single part of it in RAM detracting from actual useful applications?
[07:10] <ubuntu_> nosrednaekim: it saysdevice /dvd/hda1 does not exis
[07:10] <llutz> Arwen: read again what i wrote/said exactly
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: DEV, not DVD
[07:11] <llutz> Arwen: hint: it's not what you mention
[07:11] <Arwen> llutz, I saw you trying to dodge your original point of "no swap needed".
[07:11] <Arwen> either defend it or admit that you're wrong
[07:11] <llutz> Arwen: for a lot of users, true
[07:11] <llutz> and theyr normal pc-use
[07:12] <ubuntu_> nosrednaekim: it says; "could not enter folder /mnt"
[07:12] <Turazoor> awesome, it's only taken me 9hrs to get to the stage of actualling pushing that install button lol
[07:12] <Arwen> Rather, I think users would notice the improved response time from having more memory as cache instead of holding useless data.
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: lol
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: ok,. run this command then " sudo mkdir /media/windows" and then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows"
[07:15] <murchadh> I use swap on my laptop which has 64MB (123MB swap) but not on my PC which has 1024MB (No Swap). My 2 cents!
[07:16] <ubuntu_> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/windows busy
[07:16] <ubuntu_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /mnt
[07:16] <ubuntu_> thats what i get
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: oh.. ok. do "cd /mnt"
[07:17] <ubuntu_> Permission denied
[07:20] <ubuntu_> is there any hope you think?
[07:20] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: run "sudo cd /mnt"
[07:21] <ubuntu_> sudo: cd: command not found
[07:21] <ubuntu_> i typed it in correctly
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: this is on the command line?
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> the konsole?
[07:22] <ubuntu_> yeah
[07:23] <koriel> any program to start a camera session with kubuntu and windows?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> maybe it has something to do with it being a live edition
[07:23] <ubuntu_> i havent physically installed kubuntu yet
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: doubt it..
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: try this "kdesu konqueror /mnt"
[07:23] <bauer_> gvim don't color hightligt my files ?
[07:23] <murchadh> ubuntu_: You can't sudo a cd as far as I know. Try sudo ls /mnt.
[07:24] <Turazoor> koriel: Kopete has a netmeeting plug in that will webcam chat
[07:24] <ubuntu_> sudo ls /mnt worked
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: your files there?
[07:24] <ubuntu_> i can see them using sudo ls
[07:24] <cris__> hallo
[07:24] <cris__> beryl
[07:24] <cris__> ???
[07:25] <cris__> i want install it
[07:25] <ubuntu_> but i still dont know how to access them so that i am able to send them through email
[07:25] <murchadh> nosrednaekim: I don't know why sudo cd doesn't work but I've had that before, and your kdesu konqueror is my usual workaround. :)
[07:25] <cris__> i want install beryl help me pls ^
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: run "kdesu konqueror /mnt"
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> murchadh: yeah.. its odd
[07:26] <bauer_> cris__: ask and bee paitient
[07:26] <Taladan> !beryl
[07:26] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:26] <cris__> 0.o
[07:26] <animimotus> agh're
[07:27] <cris__> thx ^
[07:27] <ubuntu_> thanks that worked
[07:28] <animimotus> pula
[07:28] <jamaur> anybody know of a good hosting company in the US for a dedicated server?
[07:28] <llutz> nosrednaekim: read "caveats" at http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/man/sudo.html  there's an explanation why sudo cd doesn't work
[07:30] <savetheWorld> or rather why it works but doesnt give you what you want. :-)
[07:30] <llutz> savetheWorld: ^^
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: did that work?
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: NM... I didn't scroll down ;)
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: now... can you email it to yourself?
[07:34] <ubuntu_> i just tried but when i try to do anything with the file it says: file doesnt exist
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: thats probably because you don't have read permissions for them.
[07:37] <ubuntu_> yes, i dont understand why its being so difficult
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: ok, if you can see the file in that file broswer that you opened, copy it to you /home directory
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> so that you have read permissions.
[07:40] <Vosper> greetings and salutations
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> hey
[07:44] <ubuntu_> nosrednaekim: i cant copy it to the home folder, its says the file doesnt exist
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: but you can see it in konqueror?
[07:44] <ubuntu_> yeah
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: not good:(
[07:44] <ubuntu_> its strange
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> certainly not good..
[07:45] <ubuntu_> do you think the file is deleted?
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> or corrupted...
[07:45] <ubuntu_> crap
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> try just opening it up..
[07:45] <ubuntu_> doesnt work opening any files upp
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> its a doc I assume?
[07:45] <ubuntu_> doc
[07:45] <ubuntu_> yeah
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> hmm
[07:46] <jhutchins_lt> Am I redundant in asking what it shows in console?
[07:46] <ubuntu_> i think i see a problem here
[07:47] <ubuntu_> did that command only let konqueror access the files? all the images and pdf files opens since they can be opened within the program
[07:47] <ubuntu_> but documents need to be opened in openoffice
[07:47] <ubuntu_> could that be a problem?
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: hmm could be, though I never had that problem
[07:48] <jason__10> hello, you know the desktop background can draw a website transparently?... Well how do I set up a working shell to be in the background
[07:51] <mez> would someone be able to talk me through using Amarok with my MP3 player?
[07:51] <murchadh> jason__10: Have you looked at kuake or yakuake? Maybe not really what you're after, but they're pretty damn useful.
[07:51] <jason__10> ok thanks murchadh
[07:51] <mez> would someone be able to talk me through using Amarok with my MP3 player?
[07:52] <jason__10> mez:  you can set up amarok to open automatically when you plug your mp3 player in
[07:53] <mez> hang on a sec
[07:53] <BluesKaj> 123
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: letssee what else you could do..
[07:54] <Feudster> Hello
[07:54] <BluesKaj> oops , my num lock was stuck
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> hey
[07:54] <jason__10> anyone know how to integrate a shell into the desktop background,
[07:55] <Feudster> press really hard against your monitor!!!
[07:55] <BluesKaj> jason__10, scrnshot ?
[07:55] <jason__10> BluesKaj:  is that a joke lol
[07:55] <Feudster> was poor i admit
[07:56] <BluesKaj> nope , no joke
[07:56] <jason__10> I want a terminal on the desktop background that actually works BluesKaj
[07:57] <mez> ok... fort'd b harder than that.... can anyone tell me how to "safely remove hardware" as i do in windows, or is that not nesceary
[07:57] <LinuxReign> good morning people
[07:57] <jason__10> mornin Linux
[07:57] <mez> no worries found it lol!
[07:57] <BluesKaj> oh ok, jason__10 ...I just click on the panel icon
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: not a clue..
[07:58] <ubuntu_> thanks for your help
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: go into system-settings->advanced->discs and partitions
[07:58] <murchadh> ubuntu_: I recommend sudo umount /dev/sda1 and then we'll try and mount it with full user access.
[07:59] <jason__10> BluesKaj:  yeah i think I need compiz or that kuake program... I sort of want a terminal open all the time like a desktop background.
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> murchadh: I was trying to see how to do that  but I couldn't find it in the man page
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> all I saw was "mountable by user"
[07:59] <ubuntu_> okay, what is the command to mount it like that?
[07:59] <jason__10> Also in kde you can set a website to transparently integrate into the desktop background, anyway to make the site active in the background, like search
[08:00] <LinuxReign> what do u need to mount?
[08:00] <LinuxReign> a HDD?
[08:01] <LinuxReign> you need to creare a mount point
[08:01] <janko> :(
[08:01] <janko> wlasnie zrobilem tak
[08:01] <janko> ze nie widze juz nawet tego co tam bylo
[08:01] <murchadh> jason__10: I have kuake configured to come in from the left of the screen; it has emacs running erc on it the whole time. Yakuake comes down from the top and covers the whole screen; this has multiple terminals running different things including a root term. Win+\ for kuake and Win+` for yakuake. Reeeaaal handy! Worth a try.
[08:01] <ubuntu_> nosrednaekim: im in advanced settings now, the cd burner has a green light saying "enabled", the harddisk has no such mark
[08:02] <LinuxReign> sudo mkdir /media/linuxstore <---linuxstore is an example you can write the name you like
[08:02] <jason__10> thanks bud
[08:02] <LinuxReign> !mount
[08:02] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: murchadh has an Idea.
[08:02] <mez> hey, errrr... My MP3 player needs to be synced (apparently the recommended prog is Win Media player...GRRR) but seeing as I aint using windows no more, how do i set Amarok to sync with the MP3 player, and in so doing create the Albums conf files, so that it works properly
[08:03] <ubuntu_> what is the command to mount a harddisk with all permissions?
[08:03] <mez> hey, errrr... My MP3 player needs to be synced (apparently the recommended prog is Win Media player...GRRR) but seeing as I aint using windows no more, how do i set Amarok to sync with the MP3 player, and in so doing create the Albums conf files, so that it works properly
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> mez: which player?
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> murchadh: care to help ubuntu_?
[08:04] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Have a look at this; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:04] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: It's for floppies, but the settings will work for other drives.
[08:04] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:05] <jason__10> murchadh:  its good
[08:05] <mez> Samsung Yp-Z5... 2gb
[08:05] <murchadh> ubuntu_: sudo mount -o uid=000,gid=000 /dev/sda1 /media/windows is worth a shot her (I don't know what your partition type is, so you may need -t ntfs or -t vfat after mount before -o)
[08:06] <mez> nosrednarkim:::: Samsung Yp-Z5... 2gb
[08:06] <ubuntu_> okay ill try it
[08:07] <jhutchins> murchadh: that'll make it root acces only.
[08:07] <llutz> murchadh: "uid=000,gid=000" <- sure?
[08:07] <llutz> oh
[08:07] <murchadh> jason__10: Take some time to configure them to your liking. If you're only gonna use 1 I think Yakuake is the better option.
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> !tab mez
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab mez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> !tab | mez
[08:07] <ubotu> mez: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:08] <nosrednaekim> mez: google it... some don't work with linux
[08:08] <mez> kk nosrednaekim
[08:08] <ubuntu_> i cant unmount it because it says sda1 is busy
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: close that konqueror window
[08:10] <kubuntunewbie> can anyone suggest a good video capture card to use with linux?
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: HD5500
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> made just for linux, HD capable
[08:11] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim i have a 500 mhz computer, i dont want HD capable
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: :) well they are still nice cideo cards
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> *video
[08:11] <jhutchins> kubuntunewbie: You're not going to be happy working with video on that.
[08:11] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim will a video capture card even work with a 500 mhz with 256 ram?
[08:11] <murchadh> jhutchins: Would it be umask=000? I'll have a look at my notes.
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: ram is a little low... but yeah.. it should
[08:11] <jhutchins> kubuntunewbie: I wouldn't try it.
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> capture at least will
[08:12] <kubuntunewbie> jhutchins hrrm, ur prob right, i dont think i will bother
[08:12] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: only if it's on-card encoding, and you're satisfied with fairly low res.
[08:12] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim thanks anyhow, but i doubt it will work well with this box
[08:12] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: which is what the HD5500 has
[08:13] <kubuntunewbie> this computer is worth 40 dollars max, i doubt im going to put a good card into it
[08:13] <jhutchins> kubuntunewbie: I tried to build some stuff with a 750 mhz, stepped it up to a 900 mhz, user was still not satisfied with playback.
[08:13] <ubuntu_> i still dont have permission to enter the disk
[08:13] <mez> nosrednaekim: is there anywhere in particular i can find a list of compatibility? The player can be browsed and everything is there it's setting it up that i'm confused about.... i'm not sure what plugin to use in amarok
[08:14] <ubuntu_> i dont understand why linux have to be so difficult, cant even get access to a disk that is there
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> !media players
[08:14] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:14] <jhutchins> kubuntunewbie: seeing what you can get for less than $500 these days, I'd wait 'till I could get a better base system, close to 2Ghz, 1G RAM.
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: did you read those instruction pages?
[08:14] <ubuntu_> i didnt see the links ill check
[08:15] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: It's a pain-in-the-neck security decision that non-linux stuff mounts root-only.  yuo can get around it.
[08:15] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Conversely, you can't mount a linux partition on a windows system - it won't even see it without special drivers.
[08:15] <owl> hi
[08:15] <owl> i've a short question about the install...
[08:16] <RichardH> anyone know why all my desktop icons vanish every time i restart, and only reappear when i add a new one?
[08:17] <owl> are there known some problems with files when installing? (e.g. 'this is corrupt, coud possible be a defect cd...)
[08:17] <RichardH> owl - have you checked the CD before the install?
[08:17] <kubuntunewbie> okay since the video capture card is out of the question i was still looking to get a PCI video card for this p3 450mhz with 256 ram, can someone tell me if http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=716810&CatId=319 will work well?
[08:17] <yannick_> bonsoir ! quel est le seveur pour la discussion en franais svp ?
[08:18] <owl> RichardH: i'm currently doing...
[08:18] <jhutchins> owl: Only if you have a defective CD.  Did you verify the md5sum of the iso?
[08:18] <murchadh> ubuntu_: My last mount was off from memory. :0  umount again and sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[08:18] <yannick_> j ai un probleme de mise  jour
[08:18] <owl> jhutchins: yeah, i've done... the md5-sum is ok...
[08:18] <yannick_> merci d avance
[08:18] <Baubal> I am running Kubuntu 7.04 configured to use an LDAP server for authentication with NFS mounted homes.  Local users log in fine, use apps fine.  LDAP users run apps like firefox or click logout, KDE freezes up. Any ideas on where to look to see what is causing these crashes for LDAP users?
[08:18] <RichardH> i had a problem with my CD
[08:18] <RichardH> iso verified ok
[08:18] <jhutchins> owl: How's the md5 of the disk itself (or whatever verification your burn software offers)?
[08:19] <RichardH> program i was using to burn it verified it ok
[08:19] <RichardH> but it was lying
[08:19] <jhutchins> RichardH: You must have a very unusual system
[08:19] <RichardH> dunno what it was
[08:19] <owl> jhutchins: dunno... my burn-software offers no md5-stuff (my damned slackware died before i was able to burn the iso... so i was forced to use win...)
[08:19] <RichardH> i reburned with another program and it was fine
[08:20] <jason__10> murchadh:  I really like that Kuake software, how do you get it to load from the left
[08:20] <owl> well, i burned the CD twice...
[08:20] <yannick_> au secours !!!
[08:20] <owl> the 2nd cd i'm checking now
[08:20] <ubuntu_> murchadh: Thanks alot, that worked. That command should be posted somewhere easy to find!
[08:21] <owl> well, there are some icon-files missing (tells the dialog-box...) when scanning the cd. or after ~50 % of 'copying files'
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: so you can read the file now?
[08:22] <murchadh> jason__10: right-click on the edge of it and you'll get an optios dialog. You can also right-click on the terminal when open to select transparency font etc.
[08:22] <ubuntu_> im just about to see if i can ftp it now, i dont want to open it because openoffice takes a while on this live disto
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: ah..ok
[08:23] <jhutchins> murchadh: Sorry, I got thrown by the gid.  Good note, I'm gonna keep it.
[08:23] <yannick_> allo ?
[08:23] <jhutchins> murchadh: sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[08:23] <hannes999> WHERE I CAN FIND DRIVERS FOR MY NVIDIA GEFORCE 8600GTS?
[08:24] <jhutchins> hannes999: Don't shout.
[08:24] <jhutchins> hannes999: try nvidia.com
[08:24] <murchadh> jhutchins: Cool, as long as we got ubuntu_ to get at his thesis. Nice work nosrednaekim too.
[08:24] <owl> *squeak* i'm blind now
[08:24] <yannick_> y a t il un forum de discussion en franais svp ?
[08:24] <yannick_> chui perdu :-(
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> murchadh: eh.. i didn't do any thing :)
[08:24] <ubuntu_> yes, now it works! thanks alot nosrednaekim and murchadh, i was quite worried there for a bit
[08:24] <jhutchins> !fr | yannick_
[08:24] <ubotu> yannick_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:24] <yannick_> oui merci :-)
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: now wipe that plague called windows off your computer ;)
[08:25] <murchadh> nosrednaekim: Hehe... Now he decides to help. :)
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[08:27] <ubuntu_> haha yeah, maybe after i have i have held my defense
[08:27] <RichardH> hmm - this is a puzzle
[08:27] <murchadh> nosrednaekim: Every little bit chips away at the problem, until someone actually gets some inspiration. Still good work.
[08:27] <ubuntu_> which will be in about 3 weeks
[08:27] <RichardH> why dont my desktop icons appear on bootup?
[08:27] <owl> hmmm. simple question: what should i do, if the integry-check doesn't fail, but if i get some other 'cd corrupt'-errros during install?
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: I was really just kidding. I'm just happy it could recover your thesis for you :)
[08:28] <ubuntu_> in my opinion, that command should be on the front page of kununto.com, it must be one of the things most users are looking for the first time
[08:28] <ubuntu_> kubuntu rather
[08:28] <murchadh> jhutchins: Interseting link - more indepth on mounting permissions/issues http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=352552
[08:29] <jhutchins> owl: Hate to say, but probably replace your CD drive.
[08:29] <owl> jhutchins: *cough* IBM will kill me...
[08:29] <jhutchins> owl: It's possible there's a problem with the HD, you could check that.
[08:30] <owl> (and: i never had problems with the CD-drive)
[08:30] <owl> hmm. problem with HD - i assume not...
[08:30] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: eh.. there are many "first questions" :)
[08:30] <nosrednaekim> they can't all be up there
[08:30] <owl> .oO( manchicken? that nickname is really weird )
[08:31] <owl> ok... checking: no errors found... *sigh*
[08:31] <smarkson> Hi y'all...
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> manchicken_ is the man! :)
[08:31] <owl> ok... if there would be any errors with my cd-drive those errors should even appear, when i'm checking the cd, no?
[08:32] <smarkson> anybody with a Santa Rosa platform already fully functional?
[08:33] <ubuntu_> thanks again, now that i know the thesis is safe its time to tackle the windows issue
[08:33] <owl> windows... >:/
[08:34] <owl> hmmm. what about mounting the iso.. (accessing over nfs. mounting..) would that be a possible way...?
[08:35] <fannagoganna> yes, it should be mount -o loop <device name> <folder name>
[08:35] <owl> ok... are there any howtos out there? anything special?
[08:35] <fannagoganna> sorry, it should be mount -o loop -t iso9660 <iso file name> <folder name>
[08:36] <owl> yeah, that part i know... ;) but thanks anyway
[08:36] <fannagoganna> no...i don't think so.
[08:36] <fannagoganna> what appears to be the problem?
[08:36] <jhutchins> owl: I mount iso's via loopback and share 'em over samba.
[08:37] <owl> the problem is (ok, are 2) a cd which has problems... integrity checks says: ok. md5sum says: ok. but some icons are not able to be copied and my installation is corrupt ...
[08:37] <owl> jhutchins: hmmm. another possible way ;)
[08:37] <fannagoganna> are you trying to copy the files? Does it mount correctly?
[08:38] <owl> yeah, it seems to mount. copying: right... the first cd got issues at about 50 % and the 2nd cd got issues at 'scanning files'
[08:39] <fannagoganna> these are actual CD's?
[08:39] <owl> it is - wait...
[08:39] <fannagoganna> it could be a problem with the CD, with the drive, etc.
[08:39] <owl> 7.04...
[08:39] <owl> yeah... i burned the iso today...
[08:39] <owl> and never had problems with my CD-drive
[08:39] <LinuxReign> what would be the burrning software more similar to CloneCD?
[08:40] <fannagoganna> so i guess you mounted the ISO, and no problems there?
[08:40] <owl> nah, not mounted the iso yet
[08:40] <owl> i first want to try installing from cd
[08:40] <fannagoganna> try that, maybe it was just a borked CD burning op
[08:40] <llutz> LinuxReign: readcd/cdrecord (cli)
[08:40] <owl> hrm. i burned 2 cds...
[08:40] <LinuxReign> Brasero, then?
[08:41] <owl> oeh?
[08:43] <DZIKI> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:43] <owl> no such file or directory >:)
[08:44] <fannagoganna> try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:46] <BluesKaj> I installed bootcdwrite , so i can run my setup on diff pc with with a live cd, but I get this error ; /usr/share/bootcd/bootcd-run.lib: 144: Syntax error: "(" unexpected . I tried removing the offending "(" , and , ")" ..but no joy . Suggestions ?
[08:47] <ymsg> french room pls
[08:47] <owl> goddamnshitcrapARGH. now openoffice...
[08:47] <BluesKaj> !language | owl
[08:47] <ubotu> owl: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:47] <owl> ubotu: sorry, but 2 days fighting with software makes me angry
[08:48] <coreymon77> !fr | ymsg
[08:48] <ubotu> ymsg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:48] <owl> *rofl*
[08:48] <ymsg> ty ubotu
[08:49] <coreymon77> !botsnack
[08:49] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:49] <owl> okeeeeeh... wtf...?! even an ls -l /rofs/usr/lib/openoffice/help/en/simpress.idx/CONTEXTS gives an I/O-error. *ARGH*
[08:56] <owl> hmmm. after mounting the iso... where are the files, which are normally located under /rofs ?
[08:58] <drif> owl: where did you mount the iso to then?
[08:58] <owl>  /mnt
[08:59] <owl> (in loopbakc and stuff )
[09:00] <drif> owl: why it should affect /rofs then?
[09:00] <owl> drif: aeh, i want to use the mounted iso for installing my kubuntu
[09:01] <drif> owl: not sure about this /rofs
[09:01] <drif> explain a bit
[09:03] <owl> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. sr0: Current: sense key: Medium Error ASC=0x10 <<vendor>> ASCQ=0x90 end request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1292008, Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 323002 SQASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block 0x9cee0 SQASHFS error: Unable to read cache block [273b7779:119]  SQASHFS error: Unable to read inode [273b7779:119] 
[09:03] <bb__> hi
[09:03] <bb__> hi everybody
[09:04] <bb__> i need some help
[09:04] <bb__> is there somebody to hel me
[09:04] <drif> bb__: usually people just ask the question
[09:05] <drif> like describe their prob
[09:05] <Angelus> BluesKaj: i  compiled mesa and libdrm from source, and this time they worked with Direct rendering and everything, i even got beryl an compiz to work on this ATI card!!!
[09:05] <sparrw> i need to downgrade a feisty box to kernel 2.6.17, whats the "right" way to do that?
[09:05] <Arwen> Angelus, o.O
[09:05] <Arwen> heh, libdrm?
[09:05] <bb__> okey, sorry
[09:05] <drif> bb__: nothing the be sorry about
[09:06] <seanpcrowe> hey peeps...
[09:06] <bb__> im new to all that stuff
[09:06] <bb__> i just installed kubuntu
[09:06] <jason__10> The Purple 8 Ball says:  Certainly
[09:06] <bb__> now i wnat to know how to get the samba server running
[09:06] <seanpcrowe> can xchat see what mplayer is playing and output it here (not in this chan lol)
[09:06] <BluesKaj> Congrats Angelus!
[09:06] <Angelus> yeah Arwen libdrm from the dri project
[09:06] <seanpcrowe> a script or something
[09:07] <jason__10> seanpcrowe:  Pidgin can do it with Xmms
[09:07] <Arwen> Angelus, I know, that was a joke
[09:07] <Angelus> BluesKaj: so i dont thing what hapened yesterday was of compilig mesa from source , it thin it was all cause of my chipset
[09:07] <seanpcrowe> jason__10, i prefer xchat and mplayer lol
[09:07] <Arwen> !samba | bb__
[09:07] <ubotu> bb__: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:07] <jason__10> seanpcrowe:  lol
[09:08] <jason__10> whats the best way to have a program startup with kde?
[09:08] <sparrw> jason__10: save it in a session
[09:08] <sparrw> what is the best way to install xfree86 in ubuntu?
[09:08] <owl> ok. now i'm smarter... other people have the same problems like i have. so it doesn't seem to be a defect cd-drive on my side, right?
[09:08] <bb__> okey, thanks, i'll try
[09:10] <jason__10> how do you save a session, cant you just add a file to a start up or something?
[09:11] <drif> sparrw: easiest route is first choose the desktop..kde/gnome/etc.. which would you have in mind?
[09:11] <Angelus> BluesKaj:  i have only one issue now i dont have toolbars on any of my windows with compiz.beryl
[09:11] <sparrw> by default kde will save your session every time you log out.  if you want specific programs to start, then go into system settings, advanced, session management, and turn on 'manually saved session', then youll have a k menu entry to save your session
[09:11] <sparrw> drif: i dont care.  lets say kde.
[09:12] <drif> sparrw: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' that's it
[09:12] <sparrw> drif: thats gonna get me xorg
[09:12] <drif> sorry, mindfart :D
[09:12] <jason__10> sparrw I dont like the whole session saved, so its disabled, I only want a program to start up everytime no what i mean
[09:12] <sparrw> jason__10: so, close everything, start that one program, save your session, then dont save again.
[09:12] <BluesKaj> Angelus, sorry not a beryl-compiz user ...to me it's nice eye candy window dressing that i would prolly seldom use.
[09:13] <drif> sparrw: I've completely forgot xfree86 these days :D
[09:13] <sparrw> so had i
[09:13] <tsdgeos> jason__10: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Autostart_Programs has a good howto
[09:13] <drif> sparrw: what's pulling you to that direction then?
[09:14] <sparrw> drif: ive got a touch screen with drivers designed for ubuntu 6.06, that means kernel 2.6.17 and xfree 4.3
[09:16] <drif> sparrw: ah
[09:16] <jason__10> The Purple Stargate Ball says:  Ask me tomorrow
[09:16] <rignes> Hello.  What is the "kubuntu way" of mapping softkeys on a laptop to run a certain application?
[09:17] <jason__10> erm kmilo?
[09:17] <rignes> I have a tc4200 tablet I'm trying to set a button to do screen rotation.
[09:17] <sparrw> rignes: global shortcuts
[09:17] <rignes> I already have a script that does it.
[09:17] <sparrw> rignes: i recently set up the same thing.  dont upgrade to gutsy (if you were considering it), xrandr breaks
[09:18] <rignes> global shortcuts?  Forgive me for being a complete kubuntu noob.
[09:18] <rignes> Usually I run Slackware and xfce on my main system at home so I'm not even all that familiar with KDE. :P
[09:18] <sparrw> K > system settings > keyboard > shortcuts
[09:19] <sparrw> i assume your hardware buttons send keyboard events.  if they are ACPI buttons then its harder
[09:20] <jason__10> OK little game.. whats your favourite or most used Kubuntu App....
[09:20] <rignes> sparrw: I'm specifically trying to map the presentation key to run the rotation script.
[09:20] <rignes> Let me poke around and see what I can get it to do there.
[09:21] <rignes> sparrw: I don't see a way to make a new mapping to a command. :(
[09:21] <sparrw> hang on
[09:22] <rignes> It has to be something obvious somewhere that I'm just missing.  I'll keep looking.
[09:23] <sparrw> rignes: oh, my bad...  i forgot about the kmenu integration.  give your rotation script a kmenu entry (right click on K, edit menu), assign that entry a global shortcut
[09:23] <rignes> Ahh ok...let me give that a go quick.  Thanks.
[09:24] <sparrw> lets see how gutsy likes booting with a kernel from dapper  :)
[09:25] <rignes> sparrw: That was exactly what I needed.  And here I was looking for more complex ways of doing it.  Thanks.
[09:26] <sparrw> i actually put the rotate button on my panel, so i could get to it with the stylus when im really really lazy  :)
[09:26] <Misza13> Question: is it possible to install a library from a newer distro into an older one?
[09:26] <Misza13> Specifically, I'd like to install libmtp6 (available in Gutsy) under Feisty
[09:26] <rignes> That's not a bad idea either.
[09:27] <rignes> I have to say, I'm quite impressed with Kubuntu on the TC4200.  Nearly everything works out of the box.
[09:27] <sparrw> have you set up an onscreen keyboard yet?
[09:27] <rignes> Not yet.  That was to be on the agenda soon.
[09:27] <sparrw> well, its less than straightforward
[09:27] <rignes> You have any tips before I tackle that one?
[09:28] <sparrw> i can tell you how i did it, but im very open to suggestions if you find a better way
[09:28] <rignes> If I see anything better I'll try and pass it on.
[09:30] <sparrw> ok, what i used is xvkbd
[09:30] <rignes> I just saw that just now on tuxmobile.
[09:31] <rignes> It's the first on the list.
[09:31] <ainesso> I have a new problem installing Kubuntu Feisty
[09:31] <sparrw> turn on manual session saving in kde, launch xvkbd with the proper settings, then save the session.  that way it will always start up.  alternately, put a button for it somewhere handy, like the panel
[09:31] <sparrw> then, to make it play nice...
[09:31] <ainesso> After a clean install, I let the update manager get all the latest updates
[09:32] <sparrw> xvkbd has a lot of command line parameters.  you need the one thats like no-click-focus or something, so it doesnt lose input focus while you type.
[09:32] <ainesso> But it exits with errors: can't install some openoffice stuff
[09:32] <ainesso> Afterwards, the whole system becomes incredibly slow
[09:32] <ainesso> and adept wn't start
[09:32] <sparrw> and then you need to right click the xvkbd title bar, go to advanced, application settings.  then turn on the overrides for how youw ant the window to behave.  i have mind always on top, on all desktops, forced shaded (with hover unshade enabled in window management)
[09:33] <ainesso> does anybody recognize this, or have any advice what to do?
[09:33] <rignes> Hmm, tha tall doesn't sound to complex.
[09:33] <rignes> Just learning what program to use to provide the keyboard is a big step in the right direction for me.
[09:33] <rignes> Sometimes just knowing whwat to use for what is the hardest part.
[09:33] <sparrw> there are other onscreen keyboards...  mostly quirky.  xvkbd is the best all around i found.
[09:34] <rignes> Sounds good enough for me to try it out.
[09:34] <sparrw> a lot of research being done lately into handheld touch screen input, eventually that will trickle up to the 'desktop'
[09:34] <sparrw> you should check out Dasher, thats a novel and good input method for writing
[09:34] <sparrw> "writing" as in english sentences
[09:35] <sparrw> i wish there were some good free stroke-keyboard systems.  there is proprietary stuff and crappy stuff.  but its coming.  :)
[09:35] <rignes> dasher = handwriting to text recognition?
[09:38] <merle> Hallo?
[09:55] <uakkeri> hi all
[09:56] <ciga> hi
[09:56] <uakkeri> i'm trying to install ati radeon drivers (fglrx) on kubuntu 7.04
[09:56] <uakkeri> i'd like some help on how to install them
[09:57] <uakkeri> it did't like of me changing the xorg.conf file :)
[09:58] <ciga> how do I exclude directories so that the find command not to search them?
[09:58] <ciga> I hope my sentence is still in English :)
[09:59] <ciga> uakkeri: maybe 'aticonfig --initial' or something...
[09:59] <felipeb> jaja... yo creo que te equivocaste de canal..
[09:59] <felipeb> y entraste a un canal chino..
[09:59] <drif> uakkeri: did you follow this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:00] <BluesKaj> !es | felipeb
[10:00] <ubotu> felipeb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:00] <felipeb> oops" sorry
[10:00] <drif> BluesKaj: minne ajattelit minut ohjata? ;)
[10:01] <felipeb> lol
[10:01] <felipeb> now multilingua
[10:01] <BluesKaj> drif...svensk ?
[10:01] <felipeb> Sayonara
[10:01] <drif> BluesKaj: close..but no cigar, finnish
[10:03] <BluesKaj> not even close , finnish and swedish are worlds apart ...usually
[10:03] <drif> true ;) but atleastt geographically
[10:03] <BluesKaj> my parents spoke both lingos
[10:03] <drif> BluesKaj: and you didn't recognize me? shame on you :D
[10:04] <BluesKaj> <--- parents were swedish-finns
[10:04] <uakkeri> drif: no... i start from there
[10:04] <uakkeri> i used another wiki
[10:04] <chosmoSantos> how was that onliner to create an ISO image outta a CD?
[10:04] <chosmoSantos> thanks
[10:04] <uakkeri> drif:thanx
[10:04] <drif> uakkeri: try it out atleast
[10:04] <BluesKaj> too many ppl changing their nicks in here for me to keep track :)
[10:04] <progress0r> hey all, im getting kde 4 running - is there an easy way to switch links or similar to get the kde4 env setup? I want to obviously keep kde 3 around. For example im running kde4 desktop now but im still running kdm from the kde3 env. i need a way to point all kde calls to kde4.
[10:05] <llutz> chosmoSantos: cat /dev/cdrom >/tmp/file.iso
[10:05] <chosmoSantos> kde4 w00t
[10:05] <progress0r> yeah its wild looking already
[10:05] <chosmoSantos> llutz: W0000TT!! does that work?
[10:05] <chosmoSantos> llutz: that's amazingly easy
[10:05] <llutz> chosmoSantos: on pure data-cd, yes
[10:05] <uakkeri> ciga:btw the command you suggested worked like a charm... thanx for you too
[10:05] <chosmoSantos> llutz: gawdDAMN!!
[10:06] <chosmoSantos> llutz: just beautiful :-)
[10:06] <llutz> chosmoSantos: calm down :)
[10:06] <drif> chosmoSantos: minimalism :) small is beautiful - tiny is striking
[10:08] <drif> anyone using klipper - and is it sometimes buggy?
[10:08] <progress0r> aha i found it
[10:11] <BluesKaj> .....<drif> BluesKaj: and you didn't recognize me? shame on you :D  Am I supposed to recognze you other than from the last week or 2 ..if i am i don't remember, unless you changed your nick
[10:12] <drif> BluesKaj: and that supposed to..prove klipper works?
[10:12] <FireCrotch> Anyone else using Gutsy?
[10:13] <jhutchins> Ok, in Amarok, I just played the first two tracks of an album, then I clicked to add it to the playlist - and danged if it didn't skip the two tracks already in queue!  Amarok ROCKS!!!
[10:13] <genii> BluesKaj:  :)
[10:13] <chosmoSantos> why kiso needs to start as root?
[10:13] <drif> BluesKaj: I mean sometimes (even with limit set to 999) it just doens't get more than few into clipboard..I need to clear klipper history contents before any copying succees
[10:13] <chosmoSantos> that's kinda retarted
[10:14] <Torch> after i install my nvidia graphics driver, i get a black screen on reboot. can anyone help?
[10:14] <BluesKaj> drif, nothing to do with klipper , whatever that is.
[10:14] <drif> BluesKaj: what that paste then? :D
[10:14] <BluesKaj> oh that
[10:14] <NickPresta> Torch, you probably have to edit your xorg.conf and change your driver to nvidia.
[10:14] <drif> BluesKaj: and as 'I' I meant my language..having one parent speaking it
[10:15] <Torch> NickPresta how can i do that when i can't see anything
[10:15] <chosmoSantos> when is KDE4 desktop upgrade?
[10:15] <chosmoSantos> thanks
[10:15] <BluesKaj> been in Canada for 60yrs , so my swedish is practically nonexistent and my finnish is worse :)
[10:16] <drif> BluesKaj: 60 years then.. no wonder
[10:16] <xevious> how will kubuntu react to me shutting down the computer, unplugging the PS2 keyboard and mouse, and plugging in a USB keyboard and mouse.
[10:16] <xevious> ?
[10:16] <FireCrotch> xevious:  it should detect them when you boot
[10:16] <chosmoSantos> xevious: you don't even need to shut it down
[10:17] <llutz> chosmoSantos: don't tell sh.t! ps2 is not hot pluggable
[10:17] <drif> chosmoSantos: I wouldn't plug/unplug ps/2 while power on.. just in case
[10:17] <xevious> yeah that'd be bad
[10:17] <xevious> but it'll autodetect the change
[10:17] <xevious> that's good
[10:18] <xevious> thanks
[10:18] <NickPresta> Torch, when that black screen comes up, press Control + Alt + F1. This should bring up a console. Login and then type in: "vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf". This will bring up a Vi, a text-editor. You have to press the down arrow/page down to scroll down to the Video Card section. Press I (that is an eye, not an L) to insert text. Replace your driver with "nvidia". Then, to save and exit, press Esc (escape) and then t
[10:18] <NickPresta> wp in (wq). Then press enter. Type in "startx" and see if all is well.
[10:18] <chosmoSantos> llutz: I am pretty sure it worked sometime ago with me
[10:18] <drif> xevious: it doesn't even know what it's missing ;)
[10:18] <llutz> chosmoSantos: it might work, but you might damage your hardware
[10:18] <chosmoSantos> llutz: I've dealt with plenty of computers and linux enough to not talk sh.t!
[10:18] <chosmoSantos> llutz: damage??!!
[10:18] <xevious> chosmoSantos: it can work, but it can also short out your motherboard
[10:18] <chosmoSantos> llutz: how's so?
[10:18] <drif> chosmoSantos: yes, damage
[10:19] <chosmoSantos> oh shit
[10:19] <xevious> chosmoSantos: PS2 is a legacy connection. it initializes when the computer boots
[10:19] <xevious> chosmoSantos: it's not designed for hotplugging
[10:19] <chosmoSantos> that would explain something :-(
[10:19] <drif> chosmoSantos: no s.it..
[10:19] <chosmoSantos> one of old pc went kaput after doing something like that
[10:20] <BluesKaj> USB ports carry voltages , better not to plugin on the fly
[10:20] <xevious> chosmoSantos: old systems were more succeptible to it
[10:20] <chosmoSantos> in fact that would explain two cases
[10:20] <chosmoSantos> oops!!
[10:20] <llutz> BluesKaj: usb is hot pluggable
[10:20] <drif> BluesKaj: what are you babbling about? :D
[10:21] <BluesKaj> llutz, be my guest :)
[10:21] <chosmoSantos> we need to move into all wireless gadgets and rid off cables
[10:21] <drif> chosmoSantos: just a mental note..when something goes kaput..usual progress is not to repeat same error again :D
[10:22] <BluesKaj> not millivolts like line level , real volts, above 1 or 2
[10:22] <xevious> chosmoSantos: there used to be massive warnings in motherboard manuals about hotplugging PS2. (i'm thinking back to 486 motherboards that i bought) but i don't see it much anymore. maybe the motherboard manufacturers realized people would try to hotplug it when USB came out and made the boards more resilient...
[10:22] <chosmoSantos> drif: I am glad I found out now :-)
[10:23] <xevious> BluesKaj: of course USB carries voltage. how would it work, otherwise?
[10:23] <Torch> NickPresta thanks, i'll go and give it a run through
[10:23] <BluesKaj> xevious, I repeat ,not millivolts like line level , real volts, above 1 or 2
[10:23] <llutz> usb = 5V
[10:23] <BluesKaj> damage
[10:24] <drif> BluesKaj: to what?
[10:24] <xevious> BluesKaj: i'm not an expert, but i'm pretty sure the USB hub monitors the ground connection to detect if something is plugged in
[10:24] <xevious> BluesKaj: and only brings up the higher voltage connections when there's something attached
[10:24] <llutz> thats the reason for the longer ground-connectors in usb-plugs. they lose connection last
[10:25] <drif> BluesKaj: would make using those flash memories a bitch, eh?
[10:25] <xevious> BluesKaj: one of the main reasons for creating USB was to make something that was safely hotswappable
[10:26] <chosmoSantos> thanks god cables will be a thing of the past soo. Only those wireless keyboards, are those encrypted? I mean somebody could sit a few feets away and sniff every keystroke you make much like a keylogger
[10:26] <xevious> chosmoSantos: my logitech wireless keyboard was encrypted
[10:26] <drif> chosmoSantos: I don't believe those are
[10:26] <llutz> xevious: nope, main reason was to push something different than firewire into the market (by m$ &co)
[10:26] <drif> xevious: was it?
[10:26] <xevious> chosmoSantos: you ever used a wireless keyboard and mouse on a regular basis?
[10:26] <xevious> i did for a couple years and then went back to wired
[10:27] <drif> xevious: these's truely are strange..sometimes they just go heywire..and nothing has changed - not my location nor transfer/receivers location..
[10:27] <NickPresta> xevious, I know what you mean. I hate my wireless keyboard. My wireless mouse is fine until I have to change the batteries ;)
[10:28] <BluesKaj> blah blah ... fine dowhat you want ...see if i care but unplugging and plugging equipment of any kind whaile there's power at the connect is not a good policy ...take it from an old audio guy whose blown a few components over the yrs taking shortcuts
[10:28] <owl> oh noez. it workes.
[10:28] <sk1t3lles> can anyone tell me why in my kdm settings I have ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp set, but for some reason X still listens on the tcp port, why is this?
[10:28] <drif> NickPresta: I like Logitech G7 for that reason :D takes 5secs to get a fresh one
[10:28] <owl> dvd was the solution for every problem in the known universe ^^
[10:28] <xevious> llutz: no. if you recall, usb1 was 12mb/s, whereas firewire was 400mb/s. they were not initially designed to compete. firewire was intended for digital video and to possibly be a replacement for SCSI. usb, being only 12mb/s was intended for things that didnt use as high bandwidth. then they made usb2 and it all got confusing
[10:29] <xevious> my friend has a logitech wireless mouse and get this: if it's too close to his _WIRED_ keyboard, it gets interference and won't move correctly
[10:29] <llutz> xevious: they could have used firewire for all those things, but the patents weren't owned by m$, so they "invented" the crappy USB1
[10:29] <drif> xevious: I believe that's my reason as well
[10:29] <genii> I like how my UW320 scsi drives are still faster than my sata2 300 drives
[10:29] <BluesKaj> RF interference
[10:29] <drif> xevious: actually same prob with my philips wireless headset
[10:29] <owl> damn. i guess i need a new cd-drive..
[10:29] <drif> xevious: ran out of livingroom :-\
[10:29] <owl> ibm will kill me...
[10:30] <llutz> xevious: enough ov conspiracy :)
[10:30] <xevious> llutz: MS didn't invent usb...
[10:30] <llutz> genii: s-ata drives are much cheaper
[10:30] <llutz> xevious: true, but they forced it
[10:30] <xevious> llutz: ever seen a firewire mouse?
[10:30] <sk1t3lles> can anyone tell me why in my kdm settings I have ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp set, but for some reason X still listens on the tcp port, why is this?
[10:31] <xevious> llutz: there's no established protocol for a firewire mouse. USB has all the HID descriptors for generic devices
[10:31] <genii> llutz: Yes :)
[10:31] <Arwen> I've got a package that refuses to purge, what can I do about it? Synaptic fails with "error running post-install script"
[10:32] <xevious> heheh
[10:32] <xevious> UPS is too slow :\
[10:33] <alejandro> hi
[10:33] <alejandro> how to apt-get with the gpg key?
[10:34] <llutz> Arwen: no hint, why post-install fails?
[10:34] <xevious> well thanks for your help, everyone. and thanks for the debate, llutz.
[10:34] <Arwen> llutz, no.
[10:34] <xevious> i'm gonna hook up this KVM switch now
[10:34] <llutz> xevious: just kidding
[10:34] <xevious> llutz: it was fun :D
[10:34] <xevious> byebye
[10:34] <llutz> cu
[10:35] <llutz> Arwen: try aptitude purge and hope for more verbose error-msg
[10:36] <Arwen> ah screw that, I just nuked the script to make it finish
[10:37] <drif> alejandro: you mean something like on this page? 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu"
[10:38] <sacater> how do i stop kde from loading things up when i start it, ie: compiz
[10:39] <evri2> Anyone know how to change background of kio-sysinfo?
[10:40] <miketalanca> I have quite a large problem. I was moving some things between two hard drives and Konqueror stopped responding. So, I went for the GUI restart, but after the screen went black, nothing happened. So I restarted the machine, and now i get no login.
[10:40] <miketalanca> The "nvidia" screen comes up to show tha the drivers are working, but nothing more.
[10:42] <miketalanca> If it matters, all that was running at the time was Compiz Fusion and Firefox.
[10:42] <joey382> what's the command to change the volume?
[10:43] <alejandro> yes drif, i woul to encode apt-get/aptitude network traffic
[10:44] <alejandro> some answer?
[10:46] <miketalanca> Is anyone there? o-0 I have a huge problem.
[10:46] <drif> alejandro: that page didn't tell you?
[10:46] <drif> miketalanca: this channel never sleeps..
[10:48] <NickPresta> !patience | miketalanca
[10:48] <ubotu> miketalanca: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:49] <waylandbill> miketalanca: all problems seem huge to the person experiencing them. :-)
[10:49] <jason__10> Hello. Im creating a Kubuntu blog. If anyone wants to have a look at it so far.. http://jayskubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/08/edit-your-kde-menu.html  This is one is about creating your own kde menu.
[10:50] <drif> miketalanca: can you get to console pressing ctrl+alt+f1?
[10:52] <jerome_> hi guys what can i use to get video support in firefox? much like wmplayer does for windows firefox
[10:52] <jerome_> what is the kubuntu equivalent
[10:52] <llutz> jerome_: mplayer-plugin
[10:53] <alejandro> yes drif, but that page it is only for medibuntu.org mirrors
[10:53] <drif> alejandro: I was after general idea there
[10:53] <jerome_> thanks llutz
[10:55] <jerome_> flash plugin for firefox is called what undep adept manager?
[10:56] <llutz> jerome_: flashplugin-nonfree
[10:56] <jerome_> thanks
[10:57] <jerome_> weird first time really using a linux box
[10:57] <jerome_> so meh i prefer gui
[10:57] <jerome_> any good newsreaders like grabit? i heard klibido was goo
[10:57] <jerome_> good
[10:57] <jerome_> bit worried about command line only unpar programs, took par2 for now
[10:57] <miketalanca> I have quite a large problem. I was moving some things between two hard drives and Konqueror stopped responding. So, I went for the GUI restart, but after the screen went black, nothing happened. So I restarted the machine, and now i get no login.
[10:57] <miketalanca>  <miketalanca> The "nvidia" screen comes up to show tha the drivers are working, but nothing more.
[10:57] <drif> miketalanca: can you get to console pressing ctrl+alt+f1?
[10:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> klibido is decent
[10:58] <miketalanca> Yeah
[10:58] <fannagoganna> for good newsreaders, there's knode
[10:58] <sk1t3lles> when I have ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp enabled for kdm X11 still continues to listen on the tcp port 6001 why is this?
[10:58] <drif> miketalanca: well, that's atleast something
[10:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> jerome_: par2 is (in my experience) faster in linux than windows
[10:58] <jerome_> well something that deals with pars included in 1 program + grabbing nzbs etc would be cool
[10:58] <jerome_> i use quickpar in windows
[10:58] <jerome_> but i hear par2 and klibido are the way to go
[10:59] <jerome_> so ill try those out im used to grabit and quickpar, tried altbinz etc didnt like it
[10:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> quickpar is nice, but a slow implementarion of the algorithm
[10:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you were looking for a more agent-like experience, try pan
[10:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> i always favored powergrab2k myself
[10:59] <jerome_> i heard pan was only in beta stage
[10:59] <jerome_> from what i googled
[10:59] <sk1t3lles> when I have ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp enabled for kdm X11 still continues to listen on the tcp port 6001 why is this?
[10:59] <jerome_> what is powergrab?
[10:59] <sk1t3lles> anyone have an idea?
[10:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> then it's been in beta for several years
[11:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> windows usenet binary downloader
[11:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's also BNR2 for linux (and windows, for that matter), which is nice, but it's slooooow
[11:00] <jerome_> question : if my linux install is on a partition and i wanted to take windows off would i just copy all files to new hdd and windows would boot?
[11:00] <jerome_> or would i need to do a reinstall
[11:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you can get it to work at all, it's been discontinued for some time
[11:00] <sk1t3lles> when I have ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp enabled for kdm X11 still continues to listen on the tcp port 6001 why is this? anyone have an idea to what is going on?
[11:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you want to get rid of windows altogether?
[11:01] <jerome_> yeh
[11:01] <jerome_> linux/windows share hdd atm partitioned
[11:01] <fannagoganna> although knode, integrated into kontact, is i think better than these alternatives
[11:01] <jerome_> so if i was to say get a new hdd, could i just copy all of linux partition on it and it would boot fine? or is there a need for a program like ghost
[11:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> use something like qtparted or gparted to format that partition, then use it for storage, or whatever you'd like
[11:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah, there's the rub
[11:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> it can be done, but i don't know how
[11:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> i always go for the reinstall in an instance like that
[11:02] <jerome_> snore :P but i just got it like i want it and if i can get wine to work im going to  kubuntu fulltime
[11:02] <fannagoganna> or just add this disk to your LVM partitions
[11:02] <alejandro> were is the ubuntu.com gpg key?
[11:03] <sk1t3lles> when I have ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp enabled for kdm X11 still continues to listen on the tcp port 6001 why is this? anyone have an idea to what is going on?
[11:03] <jerome_> is it just me or does my skype have less delay in kubuntu than windows?
[11:04] <jerome_> ewww mplayer plugin is lame - you cant watch a clip till its buffered 100% - not like wmplayer where you can
[11:04] <jerome_> any option to watch partially buffering clip?
[11:04] <waylandbill> jerome_: copy the partition and use grub-install to put grub into the new drive's MBR assuming /boot is on the same parition as /
[11:04] <jerome_> k thanks bill, and nm its only buffers like 20% then it plays
[11:04] <sk1t3lles>  when I have ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp enabled for kdm X11 still continues to listen on the tcp port 6001 why is this? anyone have an idea to what is going on?
[11:05] <adenicio> qui peu maid pour fedora?
[11:05] <jerome_> question: why in windows can i set whole screen to be used 1024 mode, but in umm kubuntu i keep needing to readjust my screen caus it and windows align in diff spots so when i restart to doze i need to readjust again its really annoying
[11:06] <llutz> sk1t3lles: what does "ps -ua|grep X" say about used options
[11:07] <sk1t3lles> llutz: let me check
[11:07] <sk1t3lles> llutz: /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-UQDVjY
[11:08] <llutz> sk1t3lles: and what makes you thinking it will listen on 6001?
[11:09] <sk1t3lles> llutz: cause if i scan it from another machine I see the port open and I can connect to it, thats why
[11:10] <llutz> sk1t3lles: you restarted kdm after changing kdmrc?
[11:10] <zgmf-x20a> hey does anyone know a really really really good website for explaining very clearly how to install .tar.gz files?  like very clear, baby steps clear, lol
[11:10] <jerome_> wikipedia.org :P
[11:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> most of the time you're not installing them - yet
[11:10] <drif> zgmf-x20a: you don't install tar.gz - you jut extract'em
[11:10] <sk1t3lles> llutz: change what in my kdmrc this is by default
[11:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> a lot of tgz files are source archives, etc, that you need to first extract
[11:11] <drif> oh :D
[11:11] <drif> zgmf-x20a: sorry :D
[11:11] <_blix_> how do I mount a floppy?
[11:11] <_blix_> no jokes please
[11:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> what's a floppy?
[11:11] <bdgraue> my kubuntu-gutsy compiz fusion dont work right, can someone help please?  http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/14260/  <-- the paste of the error
[11:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> aww
[11:11] <zgmf-x20a> drif: hey wahst up!  lol.  so ive gone round and round in circles trying the other things we went thru... and im just going to try and get this driver plg installed step by step
[11:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> too soon
[11:11] <_blix_> a floppy drive
[11:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> haven't used one in years
[11:11] <_blix_> yeah I know
[11:11] <_blix_> but this urgent
[11:11] <Marfi> hey hey! does anyone know of a way to get iCalc onto a ubuntu / kubuntu install? if not, does anyone know of a good equivelant?
[11:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> but you could try mount /dev/fd0 /<whatever the mountpoint is>
[11:12] <_blix_> spent the last 40mins trying to find a floppy earlier
[11:12] <_blix_> murder I tell u
[11:12] <zgmf-x20a> ok, well, then what about a webiste that will tell me how to extract, and then how to install from what i extracted
[11:12] <_blix_> k
[11:12] <The_Machine> i'm logged into the kubuntu live CD at the moment.  i would like to expand the ext3 partition kubuntu is already installed on to use all of the disk space (of which I have 200 GB left), but without creating another partition.  I don't see how to do this in gparted or in qtparted. Could someone help me?  :)
[11:12] <zgmf-x20a> anything like that out there?
[11:12] <jerome_> we still get lots of em here in south africa
[11:12] <llutz> _blix_: use mtools instead, no mounting needed ;)
[11:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> zgmf-x20a: what are you trying to install, first
[11:12] <_blix_> Daisuke_Laptop: that doesn't work
[11:12] <_blix_> mtools?
[11:12] <_blix_> where is that?
[11:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> then go with llutz's suggestion :)
[11:13] <jerome_> any good apps that are a must have on linux?
[11:13] <felipeb> _blix_: clic right mouse
[11:13] <_blix_> on what?
[11:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> zgmf-x20a: because if it's in the repos, you're wasting a whole lot of your own time trying to compile and install :)
[11:13] <felipeb> on desktop
[11:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> jerome_: as far as?
[11:13] <felipeb> create new
[11:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> amarok for music, that's a given
[11:13] <_blix_> right
[11:13] <felipeb> acces to floppy
[11:13] <_blix_> there is no 'Create New'
[11:14] <jerome_> anything, i mean windows i use, mudmaster2k-skype-firefox/opera/grabit/quickpar/winamp/mirc/
[11:14] <jerome_> anything useful
[11:14] <felipeb> i have kubuntu spanish..
[11:15] <jerome_> does beryl take lots of resources and can ya please explain what it does/why i would use it.
[11:15] <felipeb> but I can mount my flopys..
[11:16] <Marfi> amark ftw!
[11:16] <bdgraue> jerome_: http://www.linux.org/apps/
[11:16] <Marfi> *amarok
[11:16] <jerome_> thanks bdgraue, any reason i would want bery?
[11:17] <jerome_> beryl
[11:17] <uakkeri> how to configure ati redeon 9600. i'm having troubles when enabling anything but mesa. i.e. tv doesn't work
[11:17] <bdgraue> jerome_: http://www.opencompositing.org/
[11:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> !equivalents | jerome_, this might be of interest
[11:18] <ubotu> jerome_, this might be of interest: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:18] <jerome_> thanks
[11:19] <jerome_> bookmarking both
[11:19] <jerome_> how do i make firefox default broswer of konqueror
[11:20] <bdgraue> !gutsy
[11:20] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:21] <jerome_> how do i set ffox to default broswer?
[11:22] <judgen> howdy.
[11:22] <jerome_> man kubuntu keeps opening up and i dont want it to
[11:23] <jerome_> when i click a link from konversation
[11:23] <jerome_> i want ffox to open
[11:23] <judgen> anyone having problems with BT878 cards and fglrx?
[11:23] <holzmodem> hi, how can i change the font for the desktop icons?
[11:23] <uakkeri> judgen:i am
[11:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> jerome_: that's easy to fix
[11:24] <jerome_> where do i do it tho i know its easy but i dunno where to go
[11:24] <judgen> uakkeri xorg goes black?
[11:24] <uakkeri>  judgen: exactly
[11:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> go into a terminal and manually edit konversation's config files to point from konq...  just kidding :D
[11:25] <judgen> uakkeri ot does not seem to be a problem with the kernel though....
[11:25] <uakkeri> take options from /etc/X11/xorg.conf off and everything work BUT 3d
[11:25] <jerome_> where do i set it?
[11:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> go to settings / konversation settings / behaviour / general
[11:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> check 'use custom web browser'
[11:26] <jerome_> thanks
[11:26] <judgen> uakkeri hmm i dont need 3d for anything but my screensavers but i still would like it all to work.
[11:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> and enter the following (without quotes): "firefox '%u'"
[11:26] <padi> hi all, why isn't the field "tcp-ip printer" in the printer-add wizard not highlighted? I need that, because I have a printer connected via lan...
[11:26] <uakkeri>  judgen: me also
[11:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's:
[11:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> firefox '%u'
[11:26] <padi> I'm talking about kprinter
[11:26] <uakkeri>  judgen: let me see
[11:26] <judgen> uakkeri im sure i could use it before when i was using an older kernel.
[11:27] <adenicio> i need help for my web cam im on kde 7.04,i have a webcam creative but its not install
[11:27] <uakkeri>  judgen: look the options you have in xorg.conf
[11:27] <adenicio> i need help for my web cam im on kde 7.04,i have a webcam creative but its not install how do i install it?
[11:27] <uakkeri>  judgen: for the ati card
[11:27] <chosmoSantos> when will ther ebe KDE4 desktop upgrade?
[11:28] <padi> When I want to add a printer with kde print, I can only add local printer/smb or "other", but not TCP or HTTP, etc!
[11:28] <padi> please help
[11:28] <judgen> uakkeri: Driver		"fglrx"
[11:28] <judgen> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[11:28] <judgen> #	Option "FSAAEnable" "yes"
[11:28] <judgen> #	Option "FSAAScale" "4"
[11:28] <judgen> 	Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
[11:28] <judgen> 	Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
[11:28] <judgen> oops
[11:28] <judgen> stupid client
[11:29] <adenicio> i need help for my web cam im on kde 7.04,i have a webcam creative but its not install how do i install it?
[11:29] <jerome_> so i installed beryl now what i dont see much difference
[11:30] <uakkeri>  judgen: the same as i have
[11:30] <speaker219> !webcam
[11:30] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:30] <jerome_> how do i get that beryl cube effect to work ,its ticked but nothing
[11:31] <speaker219> jerome_ have you tried holding down the left&right mouse buttons, and then moving the mouse?
[11:32] <jerome_> nope :P
[11:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> (middle mouse button will give you the same effect)
[11:32] <judgen> uakkeri ill just get an Intel gfx card, that will solve the issue
[11:32] <jerome_> it just brings up menus
[11:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> and unfortunately, gl accelerated desktops aren't working that well with kde yet (to my knowledge)
[11:33] <jerome_> also how can i make sure windows key and d bring up desktop and windows k d brings up explorer type thing?
[11:33] <jerome_> any way to do that?
[11:33] <chosmoSantos> oh I was having this question... about KDE4 Desktop??
[11:33] <chosmoSantos> when
[11:33] <jerome_> windows key and e even
[11:33] <chosmoSantos> will it be release for Kubuntu?
[11:33] <glenni> i used beryl once and when i removed it, it tok something from the graphic config whit it and then it was done
[11:34] <uakkeri>  judgen: :)
[11:34] <jerome_> any way to setup windows key shortcuts - like desktop / explorer etc?
[11:34] <adenicio> i need help for my web cam im on kde 7.04,i have a webcam creative but its not install how do i install it?
[11:35] <judgen> jerome_ hotkeys?
[11:35] <jerome_> yep
[11:35] <judgen> jerome_ simple, just use the kcontrol applet. and set any combination of keys to whatever function you desire.
[11:35] <jerome_> but i want to set my windows shorcuts as 10 yrs of using the doze doesnt drop easy
[11:35] <padi> kdeprint is such a bug-whore... I can't even load any drivers, not even in super user mode, it says, they don't exist... eg: Laden des angeforderten Treibers nicht mglich:
[11:35] <padi> Erstellen des Foomatic-Treibers fehlgeschlagen (HP-Color_LaserJet_4500,Postscript).
[11:35] <jerome_> is that extra or does it come default installed judgen?
[11:35] <judgen> i think its default.
[11:36] <adenicio> i need help for my web cam im on kde 7.04,i have a webcam creative but its not install how do i install it?
[11:36] <judgen> jerome_ click on run in menu and type kcontrol. it should load, if not you might have to install it.
[11:36] <jerome_> thanks is it kinda like a device manager menu in windows?
[11:36] <jerome_> or more along the lines of control panel
[11:36] <padi> what a sh**
[11:37] <Ahmuck> !mp3
[11:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:38] <judgen> jerome_ yes
[11:38] <jerome_> so where in k control is this menu to make shortcuts?
[11:38] <judgen> controlpaneol
[11:38] <chosmoSantos> anybody got an idea of when will KDE4 be available for Kubuntu? Thanks
[11:38] <chosmoSantos> I kinda wanna have it
[11:39] <judgen> jerome_ in the swedish version its located somewhere in language or pheripals i think. I cant quite remember right now.
[11:39] <jerome_> thanks
[11:39] <judgen> np
[11:39] <jerome_> yep keyboard shorcuts in regional
[11:39] <jerome_> thanks
[11:39] <sumguy231> @chosmoSantos: There are already packages for it in Feisty for development versions, though I don't necessarily recommend using them.
[11:40] <sumguy231> They're in the Universe repository.
[11:40] <jerome_> what is it called when you go to desktop? show desktop shortcut?
[11:40] <chosmoSantos> sumguy231: ok about the WM?
[11:41] <chosmoSantos> sumguy231: you know the new look SVG icons and so on
[11:41] <sumguy231> I haven't installed the packages, so I don't know if it's a new enough build to include Oxygen, sorry.
[11:42] <chosmoSantos> sumguy231: something more complete other than scattered packages
[11:42] <jerome_> im trying to set show desktop to windows key + d - i cant seem to find the right description under keyboard shortcuts what would it be called
[11:42] <chosmoSantos> sumguy231: but I am talking about KDE4 you the complete DM
[11:43] <sumguy231> It depends on what you mean by 'scattered packages' - if you're asking when they'll have a kde4 virtual package that installs everything, I don't know. But just installing all of the kde4* packages will do you if you really want it. They probably won't bother with formalities like that until the RC versions.
[11:43] <judgen> jerome_ sorry, i have no idea. MAybe minimize all or something.
[11:44] <chosmoSantos> sumguy231: k thanks
[11:44] <sumguy231> @judgen and such: Is "Toggle showing desktop" what you want?
[11:44] <chosmoSantos> sumguy231: do you think it'll be kewl?
[11:45] <sumguy231> @chosmoSantos: ^Probably. :)
[11:45] <judgen> kde4 is cool
[11:45] <jerome_> so far ive managed to make it minimize each window individually with win + d i want it to do all
[11:45] <jerome_> any ideas?
[11:46] <judgen> btw is compiz-fusion as well integrated and easy to setup nowdays for kde as it is for gnome?
[11:46] <sumguy231> I didn't have much luck with compiz-fusion, I had more luck with Beryl. But it's supposedly included with Kubuntu Gutsy, so maybe it will be more integrated then.
[11:46] <jerome_> nevermind i found it
[11:46] <judgen> sumguy231 nice
[11:47] <judgen> sumguy231 do you remember the release date?
[11:47] <sumguy231> @jerome_: setting "Toggle Showing Desktop" to Win+D under "Global Shortcuts" does exactly that for me.
[11:47] <jerome_> yeah i couldnt find that :P
[11:47] <sumguy231> Did you now?
[11:48] <jerome_> where abouts is that on the menu
[11:48] <sumguy231> @judgen: No, but it's something like a couple months or something. Which has me worried, because it doesn't seem like it will be ready by then. Maybe they'll delay it.
[11:48] <sumguy231> @jerome_: It's in System Settings/Keyboard and Mouse/Keyboard Shortcuts/Shortcut Schemes. Once you're there just type 'show' in the search filter.
[11:49] <jerome_> i cant get win key + d to work
[11:49] <jerome_> its set to that but its not minimizing
[11:49] <judgen> Gutsy Gibbon, who will be succeeding
[11:49] <judgen> the Feisty Fawn as the focus of our development love in a few short
[11:49] <judgen> weeks, for release in October 2007.
[11:49] <jerome_> its not doing anything
[11:50] <jerome_> its set to win + d
[11:50] <jerome_> but it aint minizing
[11:50] <judgen> 18 october to be exact
[11:50] <scorpking> hi ppl. how do i check the connection speed of ppp0?
[11:50] <sumguy231> @jerome_: Hmm.... I guess I don't know then, really. It works fine for me. Sorry. I assume you hit 'apply' after that, right?
[11:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> sumguy231: you must not have been around for the high-speed feisty launch :P
[11:50] <jerome_> win e works
[11:50] <jerome_> but not wind d
[11:50] <jerome_> snore
[11:50] <sumguy231> @judgen: Oh, I thought we were talking about KDE4. Oops. :)
[11:51] <sumguy231> @jerome_: That's really weird. Sorry, I don't know.
[11:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah, and no, kde4 (as a whole) won't be done, but kde4 != kde 4.0.  look at the improvements to come up gradually on kde 3
[11:51] <rignes> Is there a way in KDE to have the "alwasy on top" option set every time you run a program?
[11:52] <jerome_> snore win + d dont work
[11:52] <judgen> jerome_ have you looked at both pages that no other function is mapped to the same "win+d" combination?
[11:52] <rignes> I can do it once it is running manually, but it doesn't stick between closing and then rerunning it.
[11:52] <jerome_> but win + e does
[11:52] <jerome_> its default install
[11:52] <jerome_> so i dont see why it should be
[11:52] <jerome_> and i removed minimize from win + d
[11:52] <sumguy231> @rignes: Right-click on a window, go to 'advanced', and then go to 'Special application settings'.
[11:52] <jerome_> resetting defaultsagain
[11:52] <judgen> sumguy231 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+specs is looks pretty on scheduale to me (gutsy that is)
[11:53] <jerome_> works now was some issue with it not having registered that win+d wasnt in use anymore from minimize
[11:53] <jerome_> even tho id disabled it and set it to none
[11:53] <sumguy231> @judgen: Oh yeah, I have no doubts about Gutsy. I'm really excited, looks like an excellent release. :)
[11:54] <jerome_> thanks sum
[11:54] <judgen> sumguy231 seems to be the best release yet
[11:54] <jerome_> ok next question - is there anyway to make my wifi connect by default with a set passkey?
[11:54] <sumguy231> @rignes: Then go to 'preferences',  check 'keep above',  change the dropdown to 'apply now', and check that checkbox to the right. I'll admit I don't really know what it's for, but I think it makes KDE happy. :)
[11:54] <jerome_> caus i hate having to do it manually but i dont see an option
[11:55] <rignes> sumguy231: Thanks, that is exactly what I needed! :D
[11:56] <merle> Hallo???
[11:56] <merle> hello??
[11:56] <owl> hi..
[11:56] <scorpking> halo
[11:56] <merle> germans here?
[11:56] <scorpking> !de
[11:56] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:56] <owl> yes
[11:57] <owl> <- german. at least my passport says...
[11:57] <merle> Is hier ein Junge, der Lust hat mit mir priv zu chatten? Bin auch m ...
[11:57] <jerome_> the desktop menu  - is there anyway to force it to show my firefox bookmarks ? atm its showing the konqueror ones
[11:57] <chosmoSantos> halo is a m$ game
[11:57] <owl> wtf?!
[11:57] <chosmoSantos> as far as I know
[11:58] <jerome_> was is das :
[11:58] <jerome_> :P
[11:58] <jerome_> nein
[11:58] <jerome_> :P
[11:58] <judgen> haha private chats...
[11:58] <jerome_> i dont sprechen zi deutsch :P
[11:58] <jerome_> so i wont be any help
[11:59] <merle> was is damit >jerome, judgen ?
[11:59] <judgen> owl is german
[11:59] <owl> might you should switch to english, merle?
[11:59] <jerome_> owl is lying :P he understood less than i did :P
[11:59] <jerome_> hence his wtf
[11:59] <jerome_> :P
[11:59] <judgen> aaah
[11:59] <merle> owl: why?
[11:59] <judgen> i understood, but i cant answer in german
[12:00] <owl> jerome_: hehehehehehehehehe, no further commets ;)
[12:00] <alejandro> how to change to nvidia binary module?
[12:00] <owl> merle: it's more polite to speak en in an international channel
[12:00] <judgen> damnit i need to get up in 18 hours =(
[12:00] <jerome_> ek kan afrikaans praat :P maar my deutsch is aaklig
[12:00] <merle> ahhh
[12:00] <judgen> Jag kan ven prata lite svenska om det hjlper.
[12:00] <merle> is it possible to chat private?
[12:00] <scorpking> i'm using a cellphone for my internet connection. if i use konversation or kopete i can connect but konqueror say 'could not connect to host htt..'. any ideas?
[12:01] <U238Willy> and hereyes it is
[12:01] <U238Willy> whoops
[12:01] <U238Willy> .. /query <nick>
[12:01] <U238Willy> to chat in private
[12:01] <jerome_> was that swedish or swiss judgen?
[12:01] <judgen> swedish
[12:01] <jerome_> heh i actually understood a bit of that due to afrikaans :P
[12:01] <judgen> there is no language called swiss
[12:01] <jerome_> yeah well swiss german/swiss french, italian etc :P
[12:01] <jerome_> they speak funny :P
[12:02] <Sanne> !offtopic
[12:02] <judgen> they speak german, french and moranic in swizerland.
[12:02] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:02] <judgen> =)
[12:02] <jerome_> !buzzkill :P
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buzzkill :p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <jerome_> anyhow thanks for help all when ive got more time to spend ill port my games to linux and clear windows
[12:03] <jerome_> but not till the weekend its time consuming
[12:03] <judgen> btw, what is the even more stripped down metapackage of kde? kubuntu-desktop is the large one and kdebase is the smaller one. But what is the name of the smallest one?
[12:04] <jerome_> what can i do with an amd-k62 550mhz , 5 gig hdd, 256 mb ram pc?
[12:04] <jerome_> any use as a server?
[12:04] <scorpking> yes
[12:04] <judgen> jerome_ yes
[12:04] <Sanne> judgen: I think it's kde-core
[12:04] <jerome_> what would i make it do that this pc isnt doing already tho
[12:04] <judgen> Sanne thanks
[12:05] <sumguy231> @judgen: I don't think it gets more minimal than that short of just installing the kdelibs.
[12:05] <Sanne> :)
[12:05] <judgen> sumguy231 it was kde-core i was looking for.
[12:05] <scorpking> jerome_: my server is 200mhz, 96mb ram
[12:05] <sumguy231> Yeah, you're right. Sorry.
[12:05] <jerome_> and what do you have it do for ya scrop?
[12:05] <judgen> jerome_ i have an ir-server at 33mhz and 4mb ram.
[12:05] <jerome_> a firewall box?
[12:05] <jerome_> or what?
[12:06] <jerome_> what kinda use could i put it to
[12:06] <scorpking> jerome_: 320gb hd. file and web server. :)
[12:06] <Feudster> Hello
[12:06] <judgen> jerome_ you could have it as a fileserver, webserver, router, firewall, vnc, ssh, ftp, nsf you name it
[12:06] <judgen> but i think you need a larger harddrive for some of those things
[12:07] <jerome_> yeah, im thinking i dump a 40gig hdd in it and keep it as a media center, connected through to the tv
[12:07] <judgen> my 33mhz server has an 80mb harddisk.
[12:07] <jerome_> why bother keeping it jud?
[12:08] <judgen> jerome_ it will be too weak to play HD content though at that clockspeed, and the lack of sse in k6 processors-
[12:08] <Feudster> is it easy to set up a web server in ubuntu?
[12:08] <scorpking> yes
[12:08] <Feudster> which app do i look for?
[12:08] <judgen> jerome_ it runs fanless, and 33mhz is plenty for running my infrared remote server.
[12:08] <judgen> Feudster apache
[12:08] <scorpking> Feudster: apache
[12:08] <Feudster> thx
[12:09] <jerome_> one issue i need to sort out in linux is routing, lemme explain in south africa where i am bandwidth is EXPENSIVE - you pay an arm and a leg for bandwidth here, and small caps like 3gb on most accs. - so what i need to do is route bandwidth as local is cheaper i buy 2 accs , 1 local, 1 int, currently in windows i have a program called routesentry that routes the 2 connections so that local uses local, int uses int etc, how can i do that
[12:09] <jerome_> in linux or do i need an ipcop box or something?
[12:09] <judgen> jerome_ no idea, i have 1000mbit in the wall.... i dont have that problem.
[12:10] <jerome_> here 4mb is fastest connection and say a 4gb cap costs you like R500 , so that  about 80 us dollars
[12:10] <jerome_> just for the bandwidth
[12:10] <jerome_> never mind line rental etc
[12:10] <adaptr> jerome_ ipcop *is* Linux, one can do anything the other can
[12:10] <Feudster> does apache come pre installed with ubuntu?
[12:10] <adaptr> no
[12:11] <Feudster> or available through update
[12:11] <Feudster> ok
[12:11] <adaptr> yes
[12:11] <adenicio> help i got a webcame usb name creative i want to know how to install the pilots for it
[12:11] <jerome_> so i really need to find out how to route traffic
[12:11] <adaptr> jerome_ indeed :)
[12:11] <jerome_> or else i cant use linux its too expensive
[12:11] <Thothra> Apache comes with the LAMP install of Ubuntu.
[12:11] <sumguy231> @Feudster: You might want to install the server image, since it will also install MySQL+PHP and most other things you might need.
[12:11] <adaptr> jerome_ if you know what "local" means then you can set IP ranges quite easily
[12:11] <Feudster> is it hard for a noob to install apache?
[12:11] <adenicio> help i got a webcame usb name creative i want to know how to install the pilots for it.its not working
[12:11] <scorpking> Feudster: sudo aptitude install apache. put your website in /var/www/.
[12:11] <Bizzeh> hey, if i install kubuntu 7.04 and then install xgl and compiz-kde, what do i need to do to have it work properly?
[12:11] <adaptr> Feudster that depends on what you want it to do
[12:12] <Feudster> just want to serve some simple html
[12:12] <adaptr> Bizzeh xgl is not needed
[12:12] <adenicio> help i got a webcame usb name creative i want to know how to install the pilots for it.its not working
[12:12] <adaptr> Feudster that's what they all say :)
[12:12] <mayeco> sudo aptitude install apache
[12:12] <jerome_> well see my int comes over my wifi from a router not at my home - and my local i use bridge to connect
[12:13] <adenicio> help i got a webcame usb name creative i want to know how to install the pilots for it.its not working
[12:13] <inaety> where is support for compiz-fusion?
[12:13] <jerome_> http://antibody.za.net/new/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=32 - is what im looking for , if you can let me know how i would do that
[12:13] <alejandro> howto use nvidia drivers?
[12:13] <adaptr> I think you eat them
[12:13] <adenicio> help i got a webcame usb name creative i want to know how to install the pilots for it.its not working
[12:13] <adenicio> lol
[12:13] <scorpking> lol
[12:14] <scorpking> alejandro: download it from nvidia website and install it. that's one way of doing it.
[12:14] <judgen> jerome_ i just plug it into the wall and its costs me 22eur a month
[12:14] <judgen> jerome_ 1000mbit no caps
[12:15] <alejandro> i dont want to do that
[12:15] <adenicio> lol
[12:15] <judgen> but i think they have some limit on bittorrent though. Seems to never get into same speeds as my other activities, like ftp and such
[12:15] <adenicio> help i got a webcame usb name creative i want to know how to install the pilots for it.its not working
[12:15] <alejandro> i wana charge modules tat are already installed
[12:15] <alejandro> and run
[12:15] <jerome_> thats not helping :( its making me jealous
[12:16] <jerome_> if i have a list, databse of all local ips (south africa) how hard would it be to router that thru 1 con and int thru wifi default con
[12:17] <adenicio> help i got a webcame usb name creative i want to know how to install the pilots for it.its not working
[12:18] <jerome_> anyhow time for me to sleep and boot to the dreaded windows box for scanning
[12:18] <jerome_> thanks for all the help ill bug ya with routing sometime
[12:20] <judgen> i think ill crawl to bed too, cya dudes and dudettes
[12:21] <scorpking> anyone know how to check the speed of a connection? irc is the only thing i can use my computer for and it suck. :/ i think it's too slow
[12:21] <ubuntu_> i have a problem after windows instalation grub boot disappear and when i try install it agaain i fail , also the partation that ubuntu install on seem to be damage anyone  can help me to repaire it ?
[12:23] <scorpking> ubuntu_: you have to install windows before linux to make things easy. windows will replace the mbr. not sure how to fix it.
[12:23] <uakkeri> how to remake xorg.conf?
[12:24] <Thothra> uakkeri : I think in the file it tells you the command near the top to rebuild it from scratch.
[12:24] <hayami> hi
[12:24] <hayami> anyone here knows how to use XGngeo?
[12:24] <hayami> or Xmame?
[12:25] <hayami> any help ?:P
[12:26] <uakkeri>  Thothra: yes
[12:26] <uakkeri>  Thothra: thank you
[12:26] <Thothra> np
[12:26] <BluesKaj> !grub | ubuntu_
[12:26] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:28] <ubuntu_> thx i will read it and if something needed of course i will ask again :)
[12:31] <hayami> anyone knows about XGngeo?
[12:32] <scorpking> hayami: what is XGngeo?
[12:32] <NickPresta> !ask | hayami
[12:32] <ubotu> hayami: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:34] <hayami> well
[12:34] <hayami> i know about it dude :P
[12:34] <hayami> just that there's a problem with something about called Bios
[12:35] <hayami> and other folders i can't find it's an emulator tu run some games like king of fighters and a lot of arcade games
[12:35] <scorpking> never heard of it. will look it up some time...
[12:36] <hayami> thanks buddy
[12:36] <hayami> there's another one called Xmame
[12:36] <hayami> but i can't read the roms that's weird O.o
[12:36] <lkjlkj> can I adjust the brightness on my laptop? it's really bright.
[12:37] <drif> lkjlkj: which brand?