[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #135163 in soyuz "buildd-sequencer currently uses "external" version of twisted, rather than the RF version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135163
[12:46] <LaserJock> on a regular advanced search, ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 for instance, do only active milestones show up?
[12:47] <mpt> BjornT, but that would prevent me from constructing searches involving milestones for which no bugs have been assigned to me *yet*, even when I fully expect such bugs to be assigned to me in the coming weeks.
[12:47] <kblin> uh, where's the "define launchpad usage" link hiding? I knew there was a page like that...
[12:48] <mpt> kblin, "Change details"
[12:48] <kblin> thanks :)
[12:49] <mpt> BjornT, I foresee a text field that accepts whitespace-separated values.
[12:49] <mpt> Maybe once SuggestionSearchControl is sorted out, it can be subclassed to a type that accepts multiple values
[12:50] <mpt> which can then be used for tags (searching or applying) and milestones (searching)
[12:54] <gnomefreak> have you release PPA yet?
[12:56] <kiko> gnomefreak, no, one of the builders has refused to submit to IS pounding it on the head
[12:56] <kiko> and because it's a UK bank holiday we are going to have to wait until tomorrow
[12:56] <kiko> but it's nearly there -- pretty simple to finish off now
[12:56] <gnomefreak> kiko: ok cool :) i get day of rest
[12:57] <synic> hey... I've got a project on launchpad that's set not to use launchpad as the bug tracker
[12:57] <synic> how do I change this?
[12:58] <kiko> synic, Change details.
[12:58] <kiko> mpt, sounds like your change has made you popular. :)
[12:59] <mpt> hmmmmm
[12:59] <mpt> Hard to tell whether it's because it's changed, or because it's wrong
[12:59] <mpt> I would prefer "Project details"
[12:59] <mpt> but "Project" isn't a verb (at least, not in this sense)
[01:01] <mpt> But really, I think those controls would make more sense on the Bugs page, the Translations page, the Answers page, etc
[01:01] <kiko> I'm thinking about that
[01:02] <mpt> We have something similar for non-maintainers for translations already
[01:02] <mpt> (thanks to the "Rosetta setup sucks" bender I went on last year)
[01:03] <mpt> e.g. https://translations.launchpad.net/firefox
[01:04] <reacocard> hey, is there any reason why my code browser is broken for celerius? http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~celerius-devel/celerius/trunk/changes
[01:04] <reacocard> it works fine elsewhere
[01:06] <synic> kiko: where?  I don't see a change details
[01:06] <superm1> kiko, tomorrow eh?
[01:06] <mpt> synic, are you on "Overview"?
[01:07] <reacocard> synic: main page for the project, left sidebar right at the top, then about halfway down that page
[01:07] <kiko> superm1, well, we hope. :)
[01:07] <synic> hrmm.
[01:07] <synic> yeah, I don't see it.
[01:07] <superm1> kiko, i was curious, since everything is dput to them, can you also ftp to them to mirror?
[01:07] <kiko> reacocard, sounds like a bug for mwh!
[01:07] <synic> maybe it's not owned by me or something
[01:07] <kiko> superm1, you can definitely ftp to them -- it's how dput works.
[01:07] <kiko> synic, what's the project name?
[01:07] <superm1> ftp from them though?
[01:08] <superm1> to mirror them elsewhere, is the purpose
[01:08] <kiko> superm1, I think it's just http for now
[01:08] <reacocard> kiko: hehe, ok, not a big deal right now, just wanted to know
[01:08] <mpt> synic, are you logged in?
[01:08] <kiko> reacocard, I'll email him.
[01:08] <synic> kiko: exaile
[01:08] <reacocard> kiko: thanks
[01:08] <superm1> i need to have a signed Release, so i was looking for the best way to still be able to use them for building, and then ftp or wget the site, sign the release etc until you guys had the signed Release in
[01:08] <mpt> synic, it should be right between "Actions" and "Change branding"
[01:08] <synic> mpt: yeah.
[01:09] <synic> yeah, it's definitely not there.  Hrmm.
[01:09] <reacocard> driver is not assigned though I note
[01:10] <kiko> superm1, I guess you could wget it and then re-sign.
[01:11] <mpt> synic, ah, that's because you're not the registrar
[01:11] <mpt> and nor are you a driver of the project
[01:11] <synic> how do I become one?
[01:11] <superm1> kiko, yea that was the plan for now.
[01:11] <mpt> synic, are you one of the project's developers?
[01:12] <synic> yeah.  I'm the lead.
[01:13] <mpt> synic, ok, please ask at <http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad>, with a link or two to show who you are, and the project can be reassigned to you
[01:13] <mpt> Unless kiko can help you out right now
[01:13] <kiko> I can indeed
[01:13] <mpt> yay
[01:14] <synic> alright, what kind of links do you need?
[01:14] <kiko> synic, just your launchpad user page would be a good start. :)
[01:15] <synic> https://launchpad.net/~arolsen
[01:16] <kiko> synic, is there a group of people working on exaile, or is it a one-man project?
[01:16] <synic> there are three developers with svn access
[01:16] <synic> reacocard is one of them
[01:17] <kiko> gotcha
[01:18] <kiko> synic, you can either manage the project yourself, or you can create a team and delegate ownership of the project to the team. I'm not sure what your actual "management" structure looks like -- you tell me.
[01:19] <synic> hrmm, I'm not sure what's involved with either one.  Maybe the team idea would be best
[01:20] <kiko> synic, in practical terms, the project owner can edit the details of the project itself, and delegate responsibilities such as the bug contact, the answer contact, etc.
[01:20] <kiko> you want to avoid it bottlenecking on you if you are unlikely to pay timely attention to your project community's requests
[01:21] <kiko> if that's not the case you'll do fine to own the project yourself
[01:21] <reacocard> still need a team for commit access though don't you?
[01:22] <kiko> reacocard, if you're using a team bzr branch, yes, you do.
[01:22] <kiko> reacocard, synic: I am happy to do whatever changes you'd need to get the project set up -- just let me know what you'd prefer, or ask me if you are unsure about anything.
[01:22] <reacocard> synic: so maybe just assing exaile to yourself for now, but make an exaile-devel team for bzr and whatever else we all need access to
[01:23] <reacocard> assinging*
[01:23] <reacocard> assigning*
[01:23] <synic> ok.  Sounds good.  I'm trying to figure out where I create teams
[01:23] <kiko> synic, launchpad.net/people/+newteam
[01:25] <synic> kiko: ok.  Just reassign it to me then.
[01:25] <kiko> synic, I've reassigned the project to you now.
[01:25] <synic> cool
[01:26] <kiko> I'd suggest a) fixing the typo on the front page <wink> b) adding branding if you have icons premade c) changing the LP usage definitions at https://launchpad.net/exaile/+edit
[01:27] <kiko> synic, if you want to migrate your trunk series to bzr, create the branch and then just update the source details at https://launchpad.net/exaile/trunk
[01:27] <kiko> synic, you should consider setting bug and answer contacts unless you want to be the direct recipient of bugs and questions filed.
[01:28] <reacocard> oh wow its already in there? sweet
[01:28] <kiko> I'm going to stop flooding this channel now!
[01:28] <reacocard> hehe
[01:29] <kiko> why am I the top contributor to exaile again? :)
[01:30] <reacocard> because we aren't on there yet :)
[01:32] <kiko> heh
[01:33] <synic> hrmm, how do I change the svn url?
[01:33] <kiko> synic, in https://launchpad.net/exaile/trunk
[01:33] <kiko> Edit Source
[01:34] <synic> Don't see edit source
[01:35] <synic> "The source details for this series are locked and can only be modified by vcs-imports members and Launchpad administrators."
[01:36] <reacocard> kiko: driver for exaile itself is still unassinged...
[01:36] <reacocard> icons look good though synic :)
[01:38] <kiko> synic, okay, that's right -- you already have an import going.
[01:39] <kiko> synic, please add a question here: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar -- stating you want to move to using your team branch as your trunk.
[01:39] <kiko> they will do the necessary unlinking and updating tomorrow
[01:39] <synic> ok.
[01:40] <kiko-zzz> reacocard, synic can update the drivers and roles himself now.
[01:40] <reacocard> kiko-zzz: ok
[01:40] <kiko-zzz> I need to go catch some zs around here
[01:40] <reacocard> I see that
[01:40] <kiko-zzz> but i'll be back soon
[01:40] <reacocard> sleep well
[01:40] <kiko-zzz> thanks -- take care and welcome 
[01:51] <justinwray> What is the deal with PPA?  Is it released into Launchpad, or still only active in Dogfood?  There is obviously a link in Launchpad, but all of the documentation is still for Dogfood, even the upload address, and it doesn't seem to be building on the PPA within Launchpad.
[01:53] <superm1> justinwray, it's not active in production yet
[01:53] <superm1> target date is tomorrow
[01:54] <justinwray> superm1: Okay, that explains why it is not building.  Intresting, I heard the release date was this past Wensday, but I
[01:54] <justinwray> ve been busy and havn't keep up.
[01:54] <superm1> you were able to dput to the normal URL?
[01:54] <superm1> to ppa.launchpad.net?
[01:54] <justinwray> superm1: No, I couldn't dput, it failed to resolve.
[01:54] <superm1> ah okay same for me
[01:55] <superm1> just making sure :)
[01:55] <justinwray> I did however, just follow the directions and push to dogfood, because I do have a link within my "Overview" for the PPA.
[01:57] <superm1> well if your not in the PPA beta, dogfood doesn't work
[01:57] <superm1> you can push there, but it doesnt do anything for you
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #135186 in soyuz "Missing plural on PPA package when no packages are present" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135186
[06:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[06:04] <ajmitch> hi mpt 
[07:54] <thumper> lifeless: review meeting in 5m?
[07:55] <lifeless> yeth
[07:59] <lifeless> spiv: ping
[07:59] <lifeless> BjornT: ping
[08:00] <spiv> pong
[08:01] <lifeless> == Agenda ==
[08:01] <lifeless>  * Roll call
[08:01] <lifeless>  * Next meeting
[08:01] <lifeless>  * Queue status
[08:01] <lifeless>  * New reviewer nominations
[08:01] <lifeless>  * coll Rall
[08:02] <thumper> here
[08:02] <spiv> here...
[08:03] <lifeless> is BjornT at the API sprint ?
[08:04] <thumper> jamesh is
[08:04] <thumper> not sure about BjornT
[08:04] <thumper> lifeless: yes he is
[08:04] <lifeless> == Next meeting ==
[08:04] <lifeless> 2007-09-04 at 0600 UTC
[08:04] <thumper> ok
[08:05] <lifeless> == Queue status ==
[08:05] <lifeless> 12 open reviews, 7 over target
[08:05] <lifeless> I'm no longer the culprit
[08:06] <spiv> thumper: funny that you'd notice that one ;)
[08:06] <lifeless> heh
[08:06] <lifeless> I haven't allocated today
[08:06] <lifeless> forgot jamesh would be busier this week - I was getting slack.
[08:07] <lifeless> any comments about this?
[08:07] <lifeless> spiv: you have one
[08:08] <spiv> Mine will be done shortly.
[08:08] <lifeless> so just slackness then ?
[08:08] <spiv> yeah.
[08:09] <lifeless> https://launchpad.canonical.com/ReviewerMeeting20070822
[08:09] <lifeless> new reviewer nominates
[08:09] <lifeless> *nominations*
[08:10] <lifeless> Barry asks for feedback from us about the nominations - size of the new mentees
[08:10] <lifeless> I think 5 is fine, thats one per 2 reviewers
[08:11] <spiv> I agree.
[08:11] <thumper> didn't nominations need a seconder last time?
[08:11] <lifeless> less than 1 per
[08:11] <thumper> I think 5 is fine
[08:11] <lifeless> we're not nominating, we're deciding if we can swallow 5. 
[08:11] <spiv> There should be ample manpower to mentor 5.
[08:11] <lifeless> thumper: I asked for seconders because I figured without two advocates people probably were not ready
[08:12] <lifeless> thumper: perhaps we should mention this?
[08:12] <lifeless> I have no feeling for sinzui or intellitronica's readiness
[08:12] <thumper> lifeless: yes, as two items, 5 is fine and mention the seconding thing
[08:12] <lifeless> ok.
[08:12] <lifeless>  * other business ?
[08:12] <thumper> not from me
[08:13] <spiv> nor me
[08:13] <lifeless> thanks for meeting
[10:50] <Hobbsee> guys, did you put in bug status control this release?
[11:05] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Not as far as I know...
[11:06] <Hobbsee> right, cool
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135235 in launchpad "Bug submit form text box should use courier font" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135235
[11:26] <kblin> so, with launchpad being closed source, what's the procedure to get a bug fixed? sending pizza vouchers? :)
[11:26] <Hobbsee> kblin: file bug.  wait.  usually
[11:27] <kblin> Hobbsee: there's already a bug for it..
[11:28] <kblin> bug 78395 is the one I'm interested in :)
[11:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 78395 in malone "Support Google Code's issue tracker" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78395 - Assigned to Graham Binns (gmb)
[11:29] <gmb> s/t'/'t
[11:30] <kblin> gmb: I see there's a couple of other high-priority bugs on your list, though.. :)
[11:30] <gmb> Oh, yeah :D
[11:32] <kblin> gmb: Ok, just to let you know, there's another project interested in the google code issue tracker support. I just don't want to post another "me too" entry on that bug
[11:33] <gmb> kblin: I'll bear it in mind.
[11:43] <jml> Hobbsee: you know, there's a built-in way to make your wishes less idle ;)
[11:43] <ajmitch> jml: threats?
[11:44] <Hobbsee> jml: beer?
[11:44] <Hobbsee> jml: or filing a bug report?
[11:44] <jml> Hobbsee: best to try both :)
[11:44] <Hobbsee> :P
[11:45] <jml> ajmitch: threats are fine, just as long as we have some way of tracking them :P
[11:45] <Hobbsee> hammer to the head.
[12:01] <lifeless> bac: can I ask a favour? I was going to allocate reviews shortly; but its quite late here - day was just hectic - could I impose on you to allocate ?
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #135243 in launchpad "No download links on release pages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135243
[01:45] <elmargol> Hi I have a question about PPA. Can I build for old version of ubuntu to? or only the current devel version?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> elmargol: you can build for any supported version of ubuntu
[01:47] <Hobbsee> elmargol: specify the release in the changelog
[01:47] <elmargol> Thats very nice.
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135270 in malone "Can deactivate OpenPGP key but can' delete it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135270
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #135274 in malone "Branch symbol next to a bug should link to branch" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135274
[03:04] <elmargol> I try to upoad to ppa. scp returned a nonzero exit code.
[03:04] <elmargol> upload
[03:04] <Hobbsee> not enough information,
[03:04] <Hobbsee> any more info in the console output?
[03:04] <elmargol> ssh: connect to host upload.dogfood.launchpad.net port 22: Connection timed out
[03:04] <elmargol> lost connection
[03:05] <Hobbsee> do you need to use ppa.u.d.n?
[03:05] <Hobbsee> cprov: ^
[03:06] <elmargol> Hobbsee: ?
[03:06] <elmo> no, you need to use ftp
[03:06] <elmo> and not scp
[03:06] <elmargol> ok then the wiki is wrong
[03:07] <Hobbsee> elmo: well, i did wonder about that.  would the timeout also happen with using ftp?
[03:07] <elmo> https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart
[03:07] <elmo> Hobbsee: no, the timeout is happening because ssh isn't open to that box
[03:07] <elmargol> yes thats the page I read
[03:07] <Hobbsee> elmo: oh right, so it is the timeout due to that, rather than the timeout due to attempting to connect there at all, as it had been a few days prior.
[03:08] <elmo> elmargol: it doesn't mention ssh/scp at all?
[03:08] <elmargol> scp is the default method
[03:09] <elmargol> method = ftp <- fixes the problem. maybe you should put this line to the example
[03:09] <elmo> elmargol: well, ftp is the default in Ubuntu's dput AFAIK?  in any event, it certainly doesn't hurt to make it explicit in the docs
[03:09] <Hobbsee> elmargol: it tells you to use dput.
[03:09] <Hobbsee> elmargol: it neither mentions scp nor ftp.
[03:11] <elmargol> Hobbsee: I use the dput version of feisty. And did copy and paste from the example
[03:11] <Hobbsee> which still wouldnt be making you use scp, surely....
[03:11] <Hobbsee> if it was, i'd be making uploads to ubuntu by magic
[03:12] <elmargol> ah ok. my fault i commented out the default section of the config file
[03:16] <kiko-zzz> buenas
[03:17] <elmargol> How often does this refresh? I see no failure/success on the page
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #135281 in rosetta "Add translation template broken link" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135281
[03:56] <mantiena-baltix> hi all
[03:58] <mantiena-baltix> I still can't find a way how to register new distro release or milestone at launchpad :( Almost 2 years without ability to register new release of our distribution, based on Ubuntu :(
[04:09] <mantiena-baltix> Could anyone tell me when there will be an ability to register new release or new milestone at https://launchpad.net/baltix/ ?
[04:14] <mantiena-baltix> kiko, maybe you know ?
[04:14] <kiko> the person you want to talk to is really statik 
[04:14] <kiko> I don't decide about that part of launchpad really
[04:18] <bac> mantiena-baltix: i'll ask statik about this for you and get an answer soon.
[04:39] <gnomefreak> Kmos: what was important about the ppa factoid if its not released yet? just gonna cause confusion if you use it
[04:52] <mantiena-baltix> kiko, bac: thanks
[04:52] <mantiena-baltix> statik, hi
[04:53] <Hobbsee> er, when does ppa actually release to production?
[04:56] <kiko> Hobbsee, I'm asking around for the same thing :)
[04:57] <gnomefreak> it was postponed yesterday i wouldnt expect it until thursday (just to not get hopes up)
[06:00] <dneary> Hi
[06:01] <dneary> I have a translator who says he can't work on his language because every translation he makes, he gets the message "Somebody else changed this translation since you started. To avoid accidentally reverting work done by others, we added your translations as suggestions, so please review current values."
[06:02] <dneary> He is correcting some pt_br translations in the plain pt translation
[06:02] <dneary> So they have indeed been changed previously, but days ago
[06:02] <dneary> Any idea what might be going on?
[06:02] <dneary> kiko: Hi there
[06:03] <dneary> kiko: Did you see that I didn't run that marathon we talked about? Got injured
[06:03] <dneary> Hopefully I can stay healthy over the start of the season - I'm aiming for a 1:35 in a semi next month
[06:14] <dneary> jordi: Ping?
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135317 in malone "Roundup status batch import code must export whole set of bugs from a remote tracker" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135317
[06:21] <soren> Um... Something has changed since I wanted to do this the last time... How do I set a remote bugtracker for a project?
[06:21] <soren> didn't there used to be a list of possible bug tracking software and the an input field for a url? It seems that now I need to e-mail you instead.. Is that right?
[06:21] <kiko> dneary, yeah, I know -- are you well again? :)
[06:30] <dneary> Pretty well, but...
[06:31] <dneary> Back running for a couple of months, and now I'm getting worried about every little niggle
[06:32] <dneary> sabdfl: Hi there
[06:33] <sabdfl> howdy dave
[06:33] <dneary> How're things in London?
[06:34] <Hobbsee> uh oh.  if cprov is back from lunch, i should have gone to bed long ago.
[06:35] <cprov> Hobbsee: ehe, not that I've been keeping sane core-hours lately ...
[06:35] <soren> cprov: I heard rumours that PPA would be moved to production this week?
[06:35] <Hobbsee> cprov: sane hours?
[06:35] <Hobbsee> what are they?
[06:36] <cprov> soren: yes, it will (hopefully, today)
[06:36] <Hobbsee> yay!
[06:36] <cprov> Hobbsee: dunno ;)
[06:37] <soren> Great!
[06:37] <roadboy> anyone know how can we own an outdated aur to update it?
[06:38] <roadboy> oh sorry wrong channel
[06:40] <soren> hey!
[06:43] <Hobbsee> soren: :P
[06:59] <ace_suares> hi all I have some trouble importing a googlecode svn trunk.
[06:59] <ace_suares> see https://launchpad.net/activeldap/trunk
[07:33] <alex-weej> somethingi s wrong with this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/deluge/+bug/20176
[07:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 20176 in network-manager "nm-applet exits cleanly on notification area exit" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[07:34] <alex-weej> it is marked as being against deluge
[07:34] <alex-weej> when actually it is a problem with nm-applet
[07:34] <alex-weej> considering it's from a link to gnome bugzilla 
[07:34] <alex-weej> i don't get where Deluge is coming from
[07:34] <alex-weej> i could maybe remove it and add it again but it looks like a bug that needs freeing
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #135337 in malone "need automatic way to get list of user's bugs' packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135337
[07:37] <Ze_M> dneary: can explanate the issue now?
[07:37] <Ze_M> dneary: seams jordi isnt here
[08:12] <jkakar> So, I've merged a branch (hosted on LP) into the trunk (also hosted on LP).  What's the right thing to do?  There doesn't appear to be a "Fix Merged" status.  Does this branch just float around forever with "Fix Available" state now?
[08:13] <jkakar> The branch merged is ~jkakar/storm/store-name into ~storm/storm/trunk.
[08:35] <kiko> jkakar, doesn't it become obsolete?
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135347 in launchpad "Allow team admins to change team memberships through email" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135347
[09:13] <mdke> did PPA move already? I'm just starting to look into things but maybe it isn't worth me applying for a dogfood account if it will move soon 
[09:13] <kiko> mdke, I think it's about to move
[09:13] <kiko> cprov, what's the latest update?
[09:14] <mdke> I guess not then :)
[09:20] <synic> anyone available to answer this question? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+question/12333
[09:47] <kiko> synic, hang on
[09:48] <kiko> ddaa, or mwh should be able to
[09:49] <Kmos> kiko: hi :)
[09:49] <ddaa> already replied once
[09:50] <ddaa> synic: it helps a lot when you refer to your team branch to include the URL of its page on Launchpad
[09:50] <kiko> ddaa, you need another reply now :-)
[09:50] <ddaa> so I know what you are REALLY talking about
[09:51] <synic> sorry, I'm pretty new to launchpad.  
[09:51] <kiko> synic, ddaa is just being grumpy -- I didn't expect you to know
[09:52] <synic> :)
[09:52] <ddaa> I'll reply tomorrow when my brain does not look like a disaster area after a raid by a herd of rabid sloths.
[09:53] <ddaa> sorry, did not mean to sound grumpy
[09:53] <ddaa> synic: in short, you can just branch off the import branch
[09:54] <ddaa> synic: should we disable the code import?
[09:54] <synic> yeah
[09:54] <synic> how can I branch off the import branch?
[09:55] <ddaa> bzr branch https://launchpad.net/exaile
[09:56] <ddaa> then you can upload a team owned, writable, branch to be your new mainline
[09:56] <ddaa> and use https://launchpad.net/exaile/trunk/+edit
[09:56] <synic> that will keep all the import information intact and everything?
[09:56] <ddaa> to make the new branch available using the https://launchpad.net/exaile shortcut
[09:57] <ddaa> synic: not  sure what you're asking
[09:57] <ddaa> bzr does not habitually discard historical data from its branches
[09:57] <synic> well, it has been importing from our svn trunk, and has all the commit information from there
[09:57] <synic> I just don't want to overwrite it by accident :)
[09:57] <ddaa> you cannot write to an import branch
[09:58] <ddaa> that's why you need to create a new branch on launchpad to use as your mainline
[09:58] <synic> ok
[09:58] <ddaa> only the code import service can write to import branches
[10:06] <synic> ddaa: ok, I did bzr branch https://launchpad.net/exaile/trunk.  What do I need to change in the edit area?
[10:06] <ddaa> what is the url of your team-owned branch?
[10:06] <bigon> could someone change a project name I've misspelled?
[10:07] <ddaa> kiko: ^ this one for you
[10:07] <synic> I don't know.  I know I must sound stupid.  How do I find out?
[10:08] <synic> the team can commit to trunk
[10:09] <ddaa> synic: I do not see any branch there https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eexaile-devel/+branches?field.lifecycle=ALL&field.lifecycle-empty-marker=1
[10:10] <ddaa> or there https://code.launchpad.net/%7Earolsen/+branches?field.lifecycle=ALL&field.lifecycle-empty-marker=1
[10:10] <ddaa> So I think you have not created this team-owned branch yet.
[10:11] <synic> ok
[10:11] <ddaa> But I'm curious about what made you think you had one...
[10:11] <synic> I don't know how this all works.  I just want my team to be able to commit to http://launchpad.net/exaile/trunk
[10:12] <ddaa> I am going to give you a link
[10:12] <ddaa> it points to some nice documentation
[10:12] <synic> ok
[10:12] <ddaa> at the end of each page there's a link to the next page
[10:12] <ddaa> I want you to read it until the end of the "team branches" page.
[10:13] <ddaa> https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/BazaarHosting
[10:13] <synic> right.
[10:13] <ddaa> That should tell you all you need to know to get started right.
[10:14] <ddaa> Take your time to read and understand it, it will save you a lot of time down the road.
[10:15] <bigon> nobody? for changing the name of a project?
[10:16] <ddaa> kiko: ^ this one is still for you
[10:16] <ddaa> bigon: you need an admin for that
[10:16] <ddaa> if you get no reply here, post a Question there: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[10:18] <bigon> ddaa: I will do that thx
[10:28] <jkakar> kiko: It does become obsolete, yes.   Does LP figure that out on it's own?
[11:00] <synic> ddaa: ok, I think I get it now.  One more question.  How do I merge from the main branch in exaile-devel to the trunk in the exaile project?
[11:00] <ddaa> hu
[11:00] <ddaa> I do not understand what you are asking, so I guess the answer is "you do not need to"...
[11:01] <synic> well, I guess my concern is this:  people might find exaile on launchpad, and browse to the code section
[11:02] <ddaa> so two things...
[11:02] <synic> they might attempt to checkout the code from there, but that code won't be what we're actively working on
[11:02] <ddaa> one is 1. make your team branch the designed branch of the trunk series
[11:02] <ddaa> using the +edit form
[11:03] <ddaa> The other is 2. ask us to mark the old import branch as abandoned, so it won't show up in branch listings by default.
[11:04] <synic> ah, ok
[11:04] <ddaa> Those two steps should make it fairly hard to stumble on the old import branch by mistake, although it will still be there.
[11:04] <ddaa> synic: would that do what you want?
[11:04] <synic> yup
[11:04] <synic> I'm still waiting for the push though, it's taking a while
[11:05] <synic> so I'll hit you up to mark it in a bit here
[11:05] <ddaa> can can use bzr+ssh, it's faster
[11:05] <synic> it's been running for about 10 minutes...
[11:05] <ddaa> instead of sftp
[11:05] <synic> hrmm, is it safe to stop it?
[11:05] <ddaa> should be
[11:05] <ddaa> control-C
[11:06] <thumper> morning
[11:06] <ddaa> hello thumper
[11:06] <thumper> ddaa: still up I see
[11:06] <ddaa> helping out new user
[11:06] <lifeless> hi ddaa
[11:06] <thumper> hi synic
[11:06] <thumper> morning lifeless
[11:07] <synic> hey thumper 
[11:07] <ddaa> I'd be glad if you could read the scrollback and take over for me at this point, though
[11:07] <lifeless> hi thumper 
[11:07] <synic> ddaa: sorry to keep you up.  I do appreciate the help
[11:11] <ddaa> I have marked the import branch obsolete.
[11:11] <ddaa> I will clear the Subversion details now.
[11:12] <synic> k
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135385 in soyuz "PPA archive page sometimes oops with a TraversalError" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135385
[11:16] <ddaa> Done
[11:17] <ddaa> synic: I guess you would like ownership of the exaile project too?
[11:17] <ddaa> At the moment it is owned by "Registry Administrator"
[11:18] <kiko> jkakar, not yet, but thumper's team is working on that.
[11:20] <jkakar> kiko: Cool.  It's unclear right now, from a user perspective, what happens to a branch after it's been merged.  It might be nice, as an interim thing, to provide some descriptive text about it.  Thanks for clarifying.
[11:21] <kiko> jkakar, yeah, the branch status handling will be changing quickly once the landing target stuff is completed
[11:29] <Kmos> bzr checkout sftp://gothicx@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gothicx/ustouch/main ustouch
[11:29] <Kmos> this asks for password
[11:30] <Kmos> how to do a checkout without asking for password
[11:30] <Kmos> ?
[11:30] <beuno> Kmos: using http instead
[11:32] <Kmos> kmos@bash:~$ bzr checkout https://launchpad.net/ustouch/main ustouch
[11:32] <Kmos> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: https://launchpad.net/ustouch/main/
[11:33] <beuno> Kmos: bzr checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gothicx/ustouch/main ustouch
[11:34] <Kmos> beuno: ah.. thanks
[11:34] <beuno> Kmos: welcome
[11:41] <soren> I just got a "Rejected: No copyright file found." mail... What gives? There has to be a debian/copyright?
[11:42] <Kmos> soren: yeah =) should be
[11:42] <soren> Kmos: It's generated during the build.
[11:44] <soren> cprov: ^^ ?
[11:45] <cprov> soren: sources uploads w/o debian/copyright are being rejected since 1.1.8 went out
[11:45] <kiko_> cprov, have a bug # handy?
[11:45] <soren> cprov: That's... interesting.
[11:46] <soren> cprov: At least php5 generates it automagically during the build.
[11:46] <cprov> soren: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134567
[11:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134567 in soyuz "having a debian/copyright should not be a requirement" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[11:46] <cprov> soren: yes, that's what is mentioned in the bug ...
[11:47] <kiko_> cprov, PPA only, or all uploads?
[11:47] <soren> All uploads.
[11:48] <cprov> kiko_: all uploads, that's the problem
[11:48] <soren> Oh, well. It's past my bedtime anyway :)
[11:48] <kiko_> gar!
[11:49] <soren> What's your release schedule like? New release every... week? two weeks?
[11:55] <Kmos> what need to do to have this "Download project files" working ? on a project
[11:55] <Kmos> it has a branch / trunk
[11:56] <kiko_> you need to upload files for the project. :)
[11:57] <Kmos> how to do it? why it doesn't go to the branch and get them?
[11:58] <soren> Kmos: Branches contain your source code. The downloadable files are likely going to be tarballs (releases and such).
[11:58] <kiko_> right.
[11:58] <soren> Kmos: You can already see the files on codebrowse.launchpad.net
[11:58] <Kmos> soren: yeah
[11:59] <Kmos> and where should i upload the tarball of the project ?
[11:59] <soren> Kmos: See https://launchpad.net/storm for an example
[11:59] <Kmos> soren: ok, thx
[11:59] <Kmos> i like to have a download .tar.gz for it.. 
[11:59] <kiko_> a tarball of what, Kmos?
[11:59] <Kmos> in dreams, maybe in future.. LP can do it.. we select the branch, he does de .tar.gz from it and put it in download files
[11:59] <Kmos> kiko_: my project
[12:00] <Kmos> https://launchpad.net/ustouch
[12:00] <ajmitch> Kmos: maybe, but plenty of project require something like 'make dist' to create a tarball
[12:00] <soren> Kmos: That's not entirely how releases always work.
[12:00] <ajmitch> hello soren :)
[12:00] <soren> Kmos: Anything that uses autoconf will not work that way.
[12:00] <soren> ajmitch: Hey there, Andrew.
[12:00] <Kmos> soren: yeah, we need to do it manually and upload
[12:00] <kiko_> right.
[12:00] <Kmos> but where to upload it? to be available on download project files?
[12:01] <soren> Kmos: That's a good question, actually. I can't find it either.
[12:02] <Kmos> it doesn't have help available on /+download
[12:02] <Kmos> https://launchpad.net/ustouch/+download
[12:02] <Kmos> :(
[12:03] <ajmitch> perhaps it has to be done on a release series
[12:04] <ajmitch> or a release on a release series
[12:06] <kiko_> I believe so
[12:06] <soren> ...so you don't actually upload it, but rather Launchpad fetches it from somewhere?
[12:07] <kiko_> no, you associate it with a release
[12:12] <ajmitch> kiko_: some of the confusion is that registering a release series asks for an optional tarball url
[12:13] <kiko_> that's unrelated, yes very confusingly :)
[12:13] <radix> I do believe that if you visit the +download page for a project you are an administrator of, it has a link to upload files, doesn't it?
[12:14] <ajmitch> radix: not for me :)
[12:15] <radix> ok, guess I'm on crack
[12:15] <ajmitch> but I have no releases registered for that project, and just a release series 'trunk'
[12:15] <radix> or they changed it in the last release, but that's less likely ;)
[12:15] <radix> ok no, I'm not on crack
[12:15] <radix> you do need to have a release registered
[12:15] <jrib> hi, I'm a bit confused with the status of PPAs.  I enabled my PPA in my personal page on the non-beta launchpad (I don't have a beta account yet).  Can I somehow upload a package somewhere now?  I tried ppa.launchpad.net which failed outright with dput and I also tried upload.dogfood.launchpad.net which succeeded with dput but then I received a rejection notice in my email http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35474/
[12:17] <kiko_> what radix said.
[12:17] <kiko_> jrib, they are moving to production today --- I believe everything is set up and there are just some minor code issues to update.
[12:17] <jrib> kiko_: ah ok, I'll wait and try again in a couple of days then.  Thanks
[12:18] <kiko_> should be up tomorrow as the last blockers are being dealt with now
[12:18] <kiko_> but fingers crossed :)
[12:19] <ajmitch> kiko_: great, I have some stuff to upload :)
[12:37] <jordi> Ze_M: hey
[12:37] <jordi> Ze_M: did you get help regarding your editing problem?
[12:37] <Ze_M> jordi: yes all is working fine
[12:37] <jordi> Ze_M: great.
[12:37] <Ze_M> now i just owuld like that the updates could be comited
[12:41] <Ze_M> jordi: can you do it?