[01:41] <CIA-33> Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r4299 ubuntu/basic-commands/C/basic-commands.xml: Corrections to tense (patch from David Delony), added statuses to sections
[02:06] <docs-rool> are there any ubuntu-doc people in here (not kubuntu or xubuntu)?
[02:08] <nixternal> j1mc: that would be everyone else besides you, robotgeek, and myself
[02:08] <j1mc> :)
[02:10] <j1mc> i suppose that i should do one of those !ask things for myself.
[02:11] <j1mc> the 'advanced-topics.xml' file includes references to other sections, like '<ulink type="help" url="ghelp:server">'
[02:11] <nixternal> right
[02:11] <j1mc> i can't find those other sections, though.
[02:11] <nixternal> that is because server is a whole other document
[02:11] <j1mc> i can't find that document, though.
[02:17] <j1mc> so if i don't know where it links to, i can't exactly modify it to suit xubuntu.  plus, i'm not sure how a regular browser would process a link that mentions yelp or 'ghelp.'
[02:18] <nixternal> j1mc: server is located in common/ in the root directory of trunk
[02:18] <j1mc> thank ye, nixternal
[02:18] <nixternal> no problemo
[02:19] <j1mc> any idea about the way that a regular browser would handle the ghelp link?
[02:20] <nixternal> it won't
[02:20] <nixternal> I know with firefox, you can make the KDE help:/ command work with it, but remember KDE docs are all built out to HTML
[02:20] <j1mc> so i would need to set it as a regular intra-documentation link somehow.
[02:21] <nixternal> someone needs to patch our firefox to include the help:/ links
[02:21] <nixternal> j1mc: that link would only work if the server documentation was installed as well
[02:21] <nixternal> I don't know if Ubuntu installs all of that documentation or not
[02:23] <j1mc> hm.  i'll have to try at home or something.
[02:24] <nixternal> how is hotlanta jjesse?
[02:24] <j1mc> nixternal: i went to check out the kubuntu docs - it looks like they do something similar with the 'programming' section.  it references 'dive into python.'
[02:24] <j1mc> hi jjesse - you're in atlanta?
[02:24] <jjesse> j1mc: yeah i am
[02:24] <jjesse> stormy
[02:25] <j1mc> jjesse: i will have to go down near there for a training for work in october or something.
[02:25] <nixternal> where are you staying at down there?
[02:25] <j1mc> i think i'll be in marrietta?  not sure.
[02:25] <jjesse> got to hang out in knoxsville due to storms in atlanta
[02:25] <jjesse> i'm in the courtyard marriot someplace :)
[02:25] <nixternal> j1mc: when you heading to marrietta? I almost moved there with my x-gf
[02:25] <nixternal> ya, there are only 40 of them around hotlanta?
[02:25] <nixternal> err, :)
[02:25] <jjesse> :)
[02:26] <nixternal> near G Tech?
[02:26] <j1mc> maybe in october or something.  i'll be there for job training.
[02:26] <jjesse> i'm just south of smryna
[02:26] <nixternal> ahhh
[02:26] <jjesse> what type of training, i'm teaching a class on Altiris in Atlanta in Oct. i think
[02:27] <j1mc> it's training for the Employease system.  http://www.eease.com/hris/hris_technology.php  i'm going to be doing implementations for them.
[02:27] <nixternal> ahh, so you are nw of hotlanta then
[02:28] <nixternal> up by the airforce base
[02:28] <jjesse> yeah i drove by it today
[02:28] <jjesse> just down 41
[02:28] <nixternal> good ol' dobbins...yup, I used to drive weapons to them guys during my last year or so in the military
[02:42] <jjesse> nixternal: finishing my rebuild of my debian vm to start working on kde4 docs
[02:42] <jjesse> nixternal: i'll ping you when i need help :)
[02:44] <nixternal> hehe
[02:44] <nixternal> I am rebuilding KDE 4 from SVN right now
[02:45] <jjesse> sounds like fun, i think....
[02:45] <nixternal> now that the main part is over with
[04:11] <jjesse> nixternal: best wiki page for setting up my debian install for kde 4 doc work?
[04:19] <nixternal> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[04:19] <nixternal> jjesse: ^^
[06:05] <CIA-33> Ubuntu Documentation: sbalneav * r4300 edubuntu/handbook/C/server.xml: Little farther on the LDM documentation
[08:33] <mdke> morning all
[09:15] <CIA-33> Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r4301 /trunk/ (28 files in 2 dirs): updating version number in browser homepage
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke, morning
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> misc question all: now the wiki has been relicenced, (and i asume help. as well) does that mean texts there can be included in the doco at will?
[09:36] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: only the help.ubuntu.com/community has been licensed, but yes, material from there can be included in the system docs, if they have the same licence
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke, so the licence change doesnt magically make everything match?
[09:38] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: not *everything* as in "everything in the whole world".
[09:38] <mdke> it makes Ubuntu documentation match though, broadly speaking
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats goo denough *grin*. thanks for that
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> mdke: wiki.u.c still is up the the air though?
[02:12] <jjesse> x`morning
[05:19] <fijam> hello
[05:20] <fijam> Admiral_Chicago, j1mc any comments on my suggestion?
[06:16] <jjesse> hello
[07:50] <mdke> tonyyarusso: correct
[08:08] <CIA-33> Ubuntu Documentation: sbalneav * r4302 edubuntu/handbook/C/server.xml: More on load balancing
[08:11] <ddelony> Do you have any problems with idiots vandalizing wiki pages?
[08:14] <sbalneav> I haven't seen any on any of the wiki pages I edit.
[08:14] <sbalneav> But I'm sure it happens.
[08:19] <ddelony> I guess messing with open-source software documentation isn't as funny as wikipedia.
[08:23] <popey> and you have to go through some hoops - ie. get a launchpad account
[08:23] <popey> which makes it just hard _enough_ to not be worth it
[08:26] <ddelony> It seems that more open-source projects are using wikis for their documentation.
[08:26] <ddelony> It's easy to keep the documentation in sync with reality. :-)
[08:35] <ddelony> The only disadvantage is that people without a working net connection can't read the documentation.
[09:06] <mdke> we aim to make our best documentation available offline in the Ubuntu system documentation
[09:06] <mdke> and there are quite a few initiatives to produce snapshots of wikis for offline use
[09:06] <ddelony> Good idea.
[09:06] <mdke> I don't know of any perfect one with MoinMoin though; there is a half-finished one
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135373 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Missing "r" on string ("moe" => "more")" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135373