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Daviey	superm1: did you get hold of bendailey?	01:16
superm1	Daviey, he was in yesterday	01:16
superm1	i also found out how much we've been averaging i month from polorix.net	01:16
Daviey	yesterday... hmm - since i last spoke with you?	01:16
superm1	~50gb	01:16
Daviey	dang timezones	01:16
Daviey	f' me!	01:17
superm1	well yesterday my time	01:17
superm1	(the only time that matters of course)	01:17
superm1	:)	01:17
Daviey	UTC + 1 ftw	01:17
superm1	well anyhow.	01:18
superm1	i got somethign to work on atrpms	01:18
superm1	with i think a signed release	01:18
Daviey	Mind you... when the mirrors and beta's stop coming out it should ease of a ickle	01:18
superm1	i have the pegasus gpg key	01:19
Daviey	yah!	01:19
Daviey	where was it?	01:19
superm1	i was smart enough to back it up to ~/.gnupg-mythbuntu :)	01:19
Daviey	:)	01:19
Daviey	If you sign them on the master server, i shouldn't need to aswell - just mirror, right?	01:19
superm1	exactly	01:19
Daviey	winner	01:19
Daviey	did you sort out a subdomain with ben?	01:20
superm1	let me try right now and make sure the signing worked then	01:20
superm1	i'm not sure if i signed the right Release files	01:20
superm1	there were two that i found that seemed like they should	01:21
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superm1	na signing dind't work	01:23
superm1	i still dont know what to sign then	01:23
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jumpkick	http://www.mythbuntu.org/support - typo "support support"	02:40
jumpkick	duplicate h1 headers	02:41
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frank23	I was looking at the Mythbuntu features... Is it capable of setting up a mythtv backend/frontend/desktop (with kubuntu as desktop) with an nvidia card and separating the mythtv frontend to TV-Out and showing KDE on the monitor?	03:13
superm1	frank23, at this point, setting up a desktop isn't integrated into the installer	03:13
frank23	All with the configuration menus	03:13
superm1	its possible to do	03:13
frank23	I know how to do it by hand. I was just wondering since the installer lets you install a desktop and a frontend	03:14
superm1	Well not in installer	03:14
superm1	in the control centre	03:14
frank23	ok	03:14
superm1	that is something i'd like to explore for the future though	03:15
superm1	more advanced setups like that	03:15
frank23	ok	03:15
frank23	It already seems to offer painless mythtv backend and frontend setups. I guess that's the main thing for a mythtv distro	03:16
superm1	yea	03:16
superm1	with the control centre, you can easily add the backend and frontend roles too	03:16
superm1	to an existing desktop	03:16
superm1	through a full out gui	03:16
frank23	ok. is the control centre a separate package you could just install on a basic ubuntu/kubuntu install?	03:17
superm1	yes	03:17
superm1	i just submitted it to gutsy a few days ago	03:18
superm1	you can see some screenshots on mythbuntu.org	03:18
superm1	of what it can do	03:18
frank23	I see :) Yeah that is what I was looking at (the screenshots)	03:18
superm1	yea since we redid the site, i lost all the other screenshots and didn't take time to redo them	03:18
superm1	but since i just wrote that recently, i did screenshots for it	03:19
frank23	superm1: are there others that help you with mythbuntu? I know you also did an awful lot of work on the wiki	03:19
superm1	yea the other folks in here help out	03:20
superm1	but yea, i do put an awful lot of free time towards this project :)	03:20
frank23	In gutsy will the control centre be a dependancy of mythtv?	03:21
superm1	No.	03:21
frank23	Thanks alot on behalf of all mythtv ubuntu users!	03:21
superm1	it will be the preferred way to install things though	03:21
superm1	:)	03:21
superm1	since you can see it tries to touch upon configuring a bunch of other mythtv related items	03:21
frank23	yeah... samba, nfs and everything	03:22
superm1	in its current rendition, it replaces samba and nfs configuration (and backs up the old one), but in a later release, i'll make it act a little more cleanly	03:22
frank23	can you setup a mythweb password with the control centre?	03:22
frank23	ok	03:23
superm1	not at this point, but another thing i wanted to touch upon :)	03:23
superm1	you can via debconf though	03:23
superm1	sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb	03:23
frank23	oh yeah?	03:23
frank23	nice	03:23
superm1	yea thank laga for that one	03:23
superm1	he got out a bunch of the code on it	03:23
frank23	cool	03:24
frank23	were you able to use stuff that knoppmyth created as well?	03:24
superm1	which stuff?	03:24
frank23	I have no idea.... I just know that it's one of the popular mythtv distributions.	03:25
superm1	honestly never booted it up	03:25
superm1	i downloaded a mythdora disk, but it never worked in my virtual machine	03:25
superm1	always froze the vm up	03:25
frank23	Oh heh, me neither	03:25
superm1	some day i probably should set up a box to compare us to them	03:26
superm1	and find out what they've got the edge on us over	03:26
frank23	Do you how to setup a myth frontend (or something equivalent) on windows?	03:27
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superm1	don't even have a windows box in my appt	03:28
superm1	so nope	03:28
frank23	ok	03:28
frank23	superm1: well thanks for answering my questions. Maybe I'll try testing mythbuntu on my spare partition sometime.	03:30
superm1	frank23, well alpha4 will be this week	03:30
superm1	so give that a spin if anything :)	03:30
frank23	ok. Where should I report problems if any?	03:30
superm1	on launchpad.net/mythbuntu	03:30
superm1	or in here	03:30
frank23	ok	03:32
frank23	superm1: just out of curiosity, what video capture card(s) do you use?	03:32
superm1	pvr-500, air2pc hd5000, silicon dust hdhomerun, pvr-350, pvr-250mce	03:33
frank23	I have 2 pvr-150, I had a hard time getting them to work in dapper but no problems at all in feisty	03:34
superm1	i had firewire at 2 points also, but not currently	03:35
superm1	yea the goal is to make it out of the box for most cards supported	03:35
frank23	great	03:36
superm1	ivtv is in the upstream kernel now too, so for most people even in other distros things should be a lot easier	03:40
rhpot1991	anyone update to SD yet?	03:41
superm1	rhpot1991, i have	03:41
frank23	yeah, I know. much less annoying after kernel upgrades. I still have to rebuild lirc modules everytime though.	03:42
rhpot1991	any words of wisdom, anything I should know?	03:42
superm1	frank23, that's fixed in gutsy	03:42
superm1	rhpot1991, if you have any digital channels, make sure your call signs are set right	03:42
frank23	superm1: even better!	03:42
superm1	rhpot1991, and channel numbers	03:42
rhpot1991	just regular cable for me	03:42
superm1	then you should have smooth saliing	03:42
superm1	0.20.2 for feisty is in feisty-proposed now rhpot1991	03:43
rhpot1991	apt got them for me not sure where from though	03:44
rhpot1991	I have the weekly mythbuntu builds in my apt now	03:44
superm1	rhpot1991, yes i added to those today too	03:44
rhpot1991	looks like its from them	03:45
rhpot1991	grrrr, mythfrontend still wont take itself out of my updates	03:45
superm1	you tried to remove that package and reinstall?	03:51
rhpot1991	yep	03:51
rhpot1991	did a complete remove from synaptec	03:51
rhpot1991	dpkg --purged it	03:51
rhpot1991	nothing	03:51
rhpot1991	schedules direct seems to indicate I am under a trial, will my grab work now or do I need to pay first?	03:52
superm1	it works for 7 days	03:53
superm1	i'm still on my trial	03:53
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superm1	bdmurray, keescook they both cleared the buildds	04:04
superm1	if you guys want to give them a spin	04:04
superm1	please file comments in the bugs, including "Works for me"	04:04
rhpot1991	I always seem to have a hard time getting my channel names to stick instead of "adding channel 2"	04:05
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superm1	what do you mean?	04:09
rhpot1991	when I scan for channels	04:09
rhpot1991	I end up losing the channel names and they end up coming up as "Adding Channel 2" "Adding Channel 3" and so on	04:10
rhpot1991	not sure what the heck I do, but I do it every time I am in mythtv-setup	04:10
rhpot1991	darn, broke my channel icons too	04:10
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superm1	hm odd.	04:11
MythbuntuGuest44	question for anyone, just did a fresh install of Mythbuntu, trying to get it updated and apt is going to autoremove all of the myth packages, what gives?	04:14
rhpot1991	has to be something I do cause I remember having a problem with it before and schedulesdirect is listing my channel names	04:14
superm1	MythbuntuGuest44, that is fixed in this weeks upcoming alpha	04:14
superm1	MythbuntuGuest44, it snuck up right after alpha 3's release	04:14
superm1	MythbuntuGuest44, if you could hold off a few days, the next alpha will have mythtv 0.20.2, that fixed, and a whole slew of other things	04:15
MythbuntuGuest44	superm1: hmmm well I guess, the box hasn't been working for a week any ways :-D	04:15
superm1	MythbuntuGuest44, watch the RSS feed on mythbuntu.org :) Thanks	04:16
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rhpot1991	superm1: I forgot to mention, when upgrading to the weekly build packages I did a dist-upgrade, not that it should effect anything	04:18
superm1	na it shouldn't	04:19
rhpot1991	it just wanted to replace mythtv.20-dev with mythtv.20 or something along those lines	04:19
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tgm4883_laptop	people are already using the website client	04:20
tgm4883_laptop	nice	04:20
rhpot1991	now I have done it, scanning for channels is crashing my box	04:20
keescook	superm1: sweet, thanks -- good email too. I will get it checked out, but I might be a bit delayed -- I have to fix my mother-in-law's machine; her drive failed.	04:30
superm1	ouch keescook	04:30
superm1	keescook, hopefully some other motu will speak up and test now :)	04:30
keescook	bdmurray, myself, and bryce will all be testing it in sort order, have no fear. ;)	04:35
rhpot1991	mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates: fixed my channel problem	04:40
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MythbuntuGuest60	superm1: sorry about that, wireless went on the fritz. So in a few days a new version will be out?	04:45
rhpot1991	do I even want ubuntu-mythtv-frontend installed?	04:52
rhpot1991	when I have mythtv-frontend?	04:52
tgm4883_laptop	depends	04:54
rhpot1991	its the meta package, no reason not to be using it	04:55
rhpot1991	hmmmm removed the weekly builds repo and it stoped asking me to upgrade that package	04:56
tgm4883_laptop	rhpot1991, it should setup auto login and such	04:57
rhpot1991	tgm4883_laptop: ya it works good and all, but the sytem wont stop updating the package	04:57
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foxbuntu	tgm4883, how goes it?	05:11
tgm4883_laptop	it's good foxbuntu	05:12
foxbuntu	tgm4883_laptop, good deal	05:14
foxbuntu	want to re-write the GTK theme for me? since I am feeling lazy	05:15
tgm4883_laptop	can't right now, heading out for ice cream, we have family in town right now	05:17
foxbuntu	ah	05:20
foxbuntu	well have fun then	05:20
rhpot1991	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35338/	05:30
rhpot1991	seems ok, right?	05:30
rhpot1991	thats from /var/log/dpkg.log btw	05:31
rhpot1991	updated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35339/	05:32
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rhpot1991	superm1_: this look ok to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35339/	05:37
superm1_	rhpot1991, looks right to me	05:37
rhpot1991	well I'm stumped	05:38
superm1_	i'm really not sure what can be causing your oddities with it	05:38
superm1_	doesn't make sense to me	05:38
rhpot1991	ya its just that package	05:38
rhpot1991	if I go into synaptec and choose properties of it then view versions	05:38
rhpot1991	I see the same version listed twice	05:38
rhpot1991	once with "(feisty)" following it and once with "(now)" following it	05:39
rhpot1991	when I remove the weekly build repo, it stops wanting to update it	05:40
rhpot1991	all the rest of the myth package just have the "(fiesty)" version	05:40
rhpot1991	just some other background info: this is happening on 2 boxes here, both had fully working mythtv installs on ubuntu feisty before I added the weekly build repos, and neither have mythbuntu installed	05:43
superm1_	woah that's particularly odd.	05:44
superm1_	considering my frontend has that same package installed	05:44
superm1_	and no issues with it	05:44
rhpot1991	only thing I can think of that I did obscure, is that I installed mythweather revamp from source long ago	05:44
rhpot1991	might have some junk hanging around from that, but I don't see how it should matter	05:45
CBiLL	will Mythbuntu support UIRT USB?	05:45
superm1_	CBiLL, what module is needed or it?	05:45
superm1_	you know off hand?	05:45
CBiLL	lirc is one	05:46
superm1_	which lirc module though	05:46
CBiLL	and 8.2 or above support it	05:46
CBiLL	let me get that info sec	05:46
CBiLL	http://65.36.202.170/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5584&highlight=lirc&sid=436b32a7df58bffbee73550b6f960175	05:47
CBiLL	usb_uirt_raw	05:47
tgm4883_laptop	cough imbrandon cough	05:47
superm1_	tgm4883_laptop, yea i msged him	05:47
superm1_	no response	05:47
superm1_	CBiLL, yes that should be supported since it looks to not be a kernel module	05:48
superm1_	but rather shows up as directly by lircd	05:48
superm1_	you will probably need to modify /etc/lirc/hardware.conf to point to your device	05:48
CBiLL	yeah MythDora said same thing and couldn't get it working 8-/	05:48
foxbuntu	superm1, can you save me from GTK2 Hell?	05:48
superm1_	but that should be it	05:48
CBiLL	but I should be able to do a mode2	05:48
CBiLL	and aim any remote to it right	05:48
CBiLL	to see if it pick up the ir	05:48
superm1_	CBiLL, well in theory yes	05:49
CBiLL	but it doesn't =/	05:49
superm1_	i dont know if perhaps only certain remotes work with it	05:49
superm1_	i know that for the hauppaugge ir sensors, you can only use hauppaugge remotes	05:49
CBiLL	works perfect in Windows XP hehe but I don't want Windows =/	05:49
superm1_	they dont have a spectrum to see anything else	05:49
CBiLL	UIRT use any remotes	05:49
CBiLL	I got one that support both 50mhz and 55mhz	05:49
superm1_	ah okay	05:50
CBiLL	http://www.usbuirt.com/overview.htm	05:50
superm1_	CBiLL, do you have a gutsy install right now?	05:50
superm1_	or a mythbuntu install?	05:50
CBiLL	nope just download it now	05:50
CBiLL	getting ready to burn it on cd	05:50
CBiLL	and pop it in	05:50
rhpot1991	CBiLL have you tried running 'irw' and aiming a device at it to see if anything is happening?	05:50
CBiLL	I tried in MythDora yeah	05:51
CBiLL	nothing	05:51
CBiLL	I have nother usb the SnapStream one and it works	05:51
rhpot1991	lirc can have a few points of failure if you don't have configs set up correctly	05:51
rhpot1991	though I only have worked with hauppauge stuff	05:51
CBiLL	but I needed this UIRT working too to tranmit to my cable box to change the channel on it	05:51
CBiLL	can lirc handle more than 1 usb tranmitter and receiver?	05:52
rhpot1991	superm1_: do you have feisty or gusty installed?	05:52
superm1_	rhpot1991, both	05:52
superm1_	in multiple areas	05:52
rhpot1991	ok hmmm	05:52
CBiLL	I downloaded feisty .. is that latest alpha?	05:52
CBiLL	mythbuntu-7.10~070801-i386	05:52
rhpot1991	feisty is stable	05:52
superm1_	CBiLL, alpha3 is the latest, but alpha4 will be coming out later this week	05:52
rhpot1991	7.10 is gusty	05:52
rhpot1991	right?	05:52
superm1_	yes	05:52
CBiLL	gusty is the alpha?	05:53
superm1_	Yes	05:53
foxbuntu	superm1_, when are you planning on building Alpha 4?	05:53
CBiLL	doing this one then! I like living on bleeding edge!	05:53
superm1_	foxbuntu, all i have left afaik is a lirc change	05:53
superm1_	to add udev support	05:53
superm1_	and a fix for lirc_serial	05:53
superm1_	so probably in a day or two	05:53
superm1_	and need a day or two to test it	05:53
superm1_	before announce	05:53
CBiLL	can lirc accept more than 1 usb tranmitter and reciver plugged in?	05:53
superm1_	yes but not easily in its current packaged form	05:54
foxbuntu	superm1_, ok, I am working hard on a rebuild of the GTK garbage to get the colors to look right and be usable	05:55
superm1_	okay foxbuntu hopefully you can get it in time :)	05:55
foxbuntu	superm1_, I hope so to, but this really became a bigger deal than I though	05:56
foxbuntu	thought*	05:56
foxbuntu	well I just made some good progress...new butttons that are much easier to read	05:58
CBiLL	another important feature to me is Closed Caption or TeleText as euro calls it	06:00
superm1_	CBiLL, depending on your tuner that may or may not work	06:00
CBiLL	it works	06:00
CBiLL	good too	06:00
CBiLL	in MythDora .. got a PVR500	06:00
CBiLL	there is one feature I hope to see in MythTV one day is to write the CC in mpeg file as open caption .. ie write word directly on top of the video itself	06:01
CBiLL	like those movie where folks speak china but words are displayed below	06:02
CBiLL	66% iso burned so far .. (this is done on an old old window computer with old cd-r player)	06:05
CBiLL	hehe	06:05
CBiLL	the main cpu is tied up as mythdora atm	06:05
CBiLL	rebooting .. goodbye MythDora Hello Gusty!	06:08
CBiLL	nice install gui btw	06:10
CBiLL	I am at the part where I choose a remote	06:13
CBiLL	does it have SnapStream Firefly remote?	06:13
superm1_	brb sorry	06:14
foxbuntu	superm1_, take a look and see what you have to say about it so far	06:14
foxbuntu	http://imagebin.org/10115	06:14
foxbuntu	CBiLL, I don't believe that remote is supported	06:15
CBiLL	dang	06:15
CBiLL	can be added later then?	06:15
foxbuntu	Mythbuntu currently only has support for the remotes supported upstream by Lirc	06:16
CBiLL	snapstream is supported in MythDora on lirc	06:16
CBiLL	right out of box	06:16
foxbuntu	the remote?	06:16
CBiLL	yes	06:17
CBiLL	and the usb tranmitter/reciver that come with it	06:17
CBiLL	well i got the conf for it	06:17
CBiLL	so I should just plop it in then?	06:17
CBiLL	very nice remote btw	06:20
CBiLL	RF signal	06:20
CBiLL	no need to aim	06:20
foxbuntu	I use a universal RF that I trained off my base remote from the PVR150	06:20
foxbuntu	um..send me the config @ nickj.fox@gmail.com	06:21
CBiLL	for the snapstream?	06:21
foxbuntu	yea	06:21
CBiLL	ok sec need to reboot back into Mytdora and get it	06:21
foxbuntu	and I will try to add it to my list of to-do	06:21
foxbuntu	and build support for it	06:21
CBiLL	cool	06:21
CBiLL	it come with a usb RF Tx/Rx	06:22
foxbuntu	nice	06:22
CBiLL	it very nice remote	06:22
CBiLL	perfect for mythtv	06:22
rhpot1991	I have heard good things about it	06:22
CBiLL	http://www.snapstream.com/products/firefly/	06:23
rhpot1991	I just use a hauppauge remote for my main box, and an all for one programed to work as a hauppauge for my other frontend	06:23
foxbuntu	My universal is nice too	06:23
foxbuntu	works well with my mythbox	06:23
CBiLL	problem I am having is that I got the uirt to transmit to my cable box but I can't seem to get both firefly usb tx/rx and uirt tx/rx to work with same lirc heck I can't get uirt working yet	06:24
superm1_	okay i'm back	06:24
superm1_	so what was questions now?	06:24
superm1_	snapstream should be listed in the installer i believe	06:24
CBiLL	none for me yet 8-P	06:24
CBiLL	oh	06:24
CBiLL	didn't see it	06:24
foxbuntu	http://imagebin.org/10115	06:24
foxbuntu	superm1_, take a look	06:24
CBiLL	hrmm let me reboote it when I get that config out	06:24
CBiLL	for foxbuntu	06:24
foxbuntu	CBiLL, thanks	06:24
superm1_	foxbuntu, i dont see any gtk dialogs there	06:25
rhpot1991	superm1_ are you using feisty_proposed on your feisty box(es)?	06:25
foxbuntu	superm1_, I am going to add the Snapstream buttons and config into the lirc gen.	06:25
superm1_	rhpot1991, i'm using the weekly builds	06:25
superm1_	feisty proposed just opened up today :)	06:25
foxbuntu	superm1_, notice the buttons	06:25
rhpot1991	I just completly removed all mythtv packages and purged them, started to install fresh and I am still getting it constantly wanting to upgrade	06:25
superm1_	i tested feisty proposed in my virtual machine	06:25
CBiLL	hey do you want the whole mythdora conf for all the remote they support zipped up?	06:25
rhpot1991	well for the rest of the system	06:25
foxbuntu	I will get you better sreens in a min	06:25
rhpot1991	thats about the only ubuntu repo I don't have turned on	06:25
rhpot1991	this is drive me crazy, it makes absolutely no sense	06:26
superm1_	CBiLL, ah it would appear that upstream lirc doesn't have a config listed in their lirc hardware database	06:26
superm1_	i was thinking streamzap	06:26
CBiLL	yeah I saw that	06:26
CBiLL	but it's snapstream =/	06:27
superm1_	but you use the USB UIRT Receiver	06:27
superm1_	do you not?	06:27
CBiLL	yes for tranmitting to the cable box to change channels	06:27
foxbuntu	superm1_, we can add that config to our DB can't we and submit an upstream patch with it in there?	06:27
CBiLL	snapstream to control mythtv	06:28
superm1_	CBiLL, what kernel module does snapstream use?	06:28
CBiLL	UIRT is not just receiver	06:28
CBiLL	superm1_ that what I am doing right now .. looking in lirc conf doesn't seem to use any module	06:28
superm1_	okay well what driver does lircd use then?	06:28
CBiLL	I don't know about drivers fully yet but it doesn't seem to be using any	06:29
superm1_	well lirc has support for native "drivers" that dont need kernel modules	06:29
superm1_	or for devices that need to use a kernel module too	06:30
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CBiLL	would it be in lirc.conf?	06:30
superm1_	i dont know anything about mythdora's config files	06:32
superm1_	so i couldnt tell you	06:32
CBiLL	email sent foxbuntu	06:39
foxbuntu	thanks CBiLL	06:39
CBiLL	zipped up all the supported remote conf file	06:39
CBiLL	the file are named based on remote it supported and basically you rename it to lirc.conf I think and put it in /etc/	06:40
CBiLL	for whatever remote you want to support	06:40
CBiLL	but trying to determine how it support the usb device that come with snapstream	06:40
CBiLL	I think lirc latest driver support it out of box as well too	06:41
superm1_	CBiLL, you can see what kernel modules are used via lsmod	06:41
superm1_	typically lirc_*	06:41
CBiLL	ok	06:41
CBiLL	lirc_atiusb	06:41
CBiLL	lirc_dev	06:41
CBiLL	that it	06:42
CBiLL	wonder if it the atiusb that support the snapstream	06:42
superm1_	well try it	06:43
CBiLL	will Mythbuntu let me recomplie lirc if I had to?	06:43
superm1_	CBiLL, the lirc_atiusb module is shipped	06:43
superm1_	you shouldn't need to	06:44
CBiLL	ok cool	06:44
CBiLL	so just slap in the right /etc/lirc.conf and it should work hopefully then	06:44
CBiLL	so what do I pick at the remote part when it ask me which remote to support? choose no remote?	06:44
superm1_	CBiLL, choose the ati remote	06:45
CBiLL	ok	06:45
superm1_	and it will load the atiusb module	06:45
superm1_	you can reconfigure remotes at any time with sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc	06:45
superm1_	or you can overwite the chosen lircd.conf by dropping it in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf	06:46
CBiLL	I will be new to sudo but I am a fast learner thou	06:46
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(CBiLL/#ubuntu-mythtv) there 2 ATI to choose from		06:49
CBiLL	the first one seem to have the same driver choosen by MythDora as well too	06:50
CBiLL	hrmm for PVR 500 I choose Hauppauge PBR-XXX Series Card and set it to 2 tuners and choose the second one again same string?	06:52
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CBiLL	hrmm 2 of superm1 hehe	06:53
superm1	my laptop froze when switching displays when i docked	06:54
superm1	so the other one isn't me	06:54
superm1	its a ghost	06:54
CBiLL	ah	06:54
CBiLL	hrmm for PVR 500 I choose Hauppauge PBR-XXX Series Card and set it to 2 tuners and choose the second one again same string?	06:54
superm1	don't worry about tuner selection	06:54
CBiLL	ok	06:54
CBiLL	well it choosen	06:54
superm1	in that alpha it doesnt do anything	06:54
superm1	the firmware finder backend wasnt done	06:54
CBiLL	alright	06:54
CBiLL	it formatting partitons now	06:55
CBiLL	I choose to let it do it for me using the entire disk	06:55
CBiLL	graphic could use some work and I would sear clear from Windows 3.1 looks =P	06:56
superm1	you mean the GTK theme?	06:57
superm1	or you mean the mythbuntu logo?	06:57
CBiLL	the default installer theme	06:57
superm1	yea that's what foxbuntu is working on	06:57
CBiLL	"installing system"	06:57
CBiLL	ah cool	06:58
foxbuntu	CBiLL, you can come join in on my GTK Hell if you like :)	06:58
CBiLL	8-)	06:58
CBiLL	I am struggling between MythTV and SageTv .. both so good and sweet but need UIRT working in MythTV thou	07:00
CBiLL	SageTV have no problem handing more than one STB using UIRT and still allow firefire remote to be used	07:00
CBiLL	an error have occured while installing package	07:01
CBiLL	failed to fetch http://mirror.cs.umm.ed.ubu** (very long string) **404 Not Found	07:01
superm1	CBiLL, oh - can you do it without network cable plugged in	07:02
superm1	i forgot to warn you about that	07:02
CBiLL	oh	07:02
CBiLL	shoot I cancelled it and it still going	07:02
CBiLL	should I start over?	07:02
superm1	well your nvidia driver might not be setup	07:02
superm1	that is all	07:02
superm1	let it keep goign	07:02
CBiLL	ok restarting	07:02
superm1	and see how it comes along	07:02
CBiLL	ok	07:02
CBiLL	letting it keep going	07:02
superm1	its because a newer version was released of the kernel modules	07:02
superm1	since this disk was made	07:03
CBiLL	lauching mythtv setup	07:03
superm1	stuff like that shouldn't continue to happen with future	07:03
CBiLL	yeah s-video is all screw up	07:04
CBiLL	but still can see it fine on my computer monitor	07:04
superm1	did the Nvidia logo pop up?	07:05
superm1	upon boot?	07:06
superm1	or was it nvidia?	07:06
CBiLL	it have not rebooted yet	07:06
CBiLL	I am at the stage where I set up Mythtv	07:06
CBiLL	I assume it going to reboot after that?	07:06
CBiLL	it doing datadirect now	07:07
superm1	well we'll see what happens after reboot :)	07:07
CBiLL	yeah	07:07
superm1	i'm not sure regarding that missing package since it couldnt get to mirror.cs.umn.edu	07:07
CBiLL	it going to ask me to reboot when I click finished on installer right?	07:07
superm1	right	07:08
CBiLL	I seem to be locked up	07:08
CBiLL	at the part were it try to get datadirect	07:08
CBiLL	stuck at 50%	07:08
CBiLL	oh there	07:08
CBiLL	we go	07:08
CBiLL	it running fillmythdatabase .. brb getting a drinnk	07:11
rhpot1991	thank god mythtv stores all its info in mysql	07:11
CBiLL	I think the right path is to allow installer run all the way then reboot and then offer to setup mythtv	07:13
CBiLL	it look kinda odd setting up mythtv before a reboot of a new os install	07:14
superm1	well the idea was that you do it on a normal monitor	07:15
superm1	whereas when you reboot you might have tvout setup	07:15
superm1	or something to that effect	07:15
CBiLL	that a good point	07:16
CBiLL	like what I am experincing right now	07:16
rhpot1991	learn to love vnc CBiLL	07:16
CBiLL	hey I just want a nice working PVR	07:17
CBiLL	I am currently using RelayTV 5040 very very nice pvr but take forever to transfer file from replaytv to computers	07:17
rhpot1991	nothing beats when you boot your pvr and need keyboard interaction and your standing there with nothing but a remote	07:17
CBiLL	100mbit I think	07:17
CBiLL	DirectData so boring and a long wait hehehe	07:21
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rhpot1991	you know that datadirect is going away in a bit right?	07:22
CBiLL	yes	07:22
CBiLL	I know	07:22
rhpot1991	alright	07:22
CBiLL	there a pay version coming up	07:22
CBiLL	5 a month was it	07:22
rhpot1991	www.schedulesdirect.org	07:22
CBiLL	yeah	07:22
CBiLL	that the place	07:22
rhpot1991	initial is $15 for 3 months	07:22
rhpot1991	they are hoping to get it to $15 a year I think	07:23
CBiLL	20 a year	07:23
CBiLL	yeah	07:23
CBiLL	would be worth every pennies	07:23
foxbuntu	superm1, here is one with the working FF	07:23
foxbuntu	http://imagebin.org/10116	07:23
CBiLL	if MythTV works out for me	07:23
rhpot1991	I just converted to it earlier, went well other than me being and idiot and screwing up my channel names	07:23
CBiLL	you subbed?	07:23
CBiLL	so it open to be sub now?	07:23
CBiLL	ok it done	07:23
CBiLL	switching my tv to svideo and clicking Finish	07:23
rhpot1991	I'm working on the trial now	07:24
rhpot1991	they give you a 7 day trial	07:24
CBiLL	oh cool	07:24
rhpot1991	as soon as I see that its working they get some cash	07:24
CBiLL	is it working yet?	07:24
rhpot1991	well it did today	07:25
CBiLL	until you messed it up?	07:25
rhpot1991	I'd like to be more convinced than that though	07:25
rhpot1991	gonna wait a few days to make sure its all running smooth	07:25
CBiLL	ok tv booting up	07:25
foxbuntu	superm1, and here is one with menus	07:25
foxbuntu	http://imagebin.org/10117	07:25
CBiLL	can see the boot up bios on tv	07:25
CBiLL	working nice on TV	07:25
CBiLL	nice curved box	07:26
CBiLL	but color well look kinda of gloomy and gothic =P	07:26
rhpot1991	grey?	07:26
CBiLL	failed to start X server	07:26
superm1	foxbuntu, looking better	07:26
CBiLL	yeah grey	07:26
foxbuntu	CBiLL, that grey is going away	07:27
CBiLL	(your graphical interface)	07:27
superm1	CBiLL, probably because the nvidia driver wasn't installed	07:27
CBiLL	yeah	07:27
CBiLL	so it is something I can install now?	07:27
CBiLL	or redo the whole thing again?	07:27
foxbuntu	superm1, any thoughts?	07:27
superm1	well its probably easier to redo the whole thing, because that deb isn't on umn.edu anymore	07:27
foxbuntu	or should I commit and you can try it in Ubi. and see what you think	07:28
CBiLL	ok so unplug it from network then?	07:28
superm1	foxbuntu, well you can just install ubiquity	07:28
superm1	its in apt	07:28
rhpot1991	why not just change his source?	07:28
superm1	yea	07:28
rhpot1991	and get the deb?	07:28
foxbuntu	oh	07:28
superm1	rhpot1991, its not available anywhere anymore	07:28
rhpot1991	ah ok	07:28
superm1	its been removed since a newer version is out	07:28
superm1	but its on the CD	07:28
rhpot1991	sorry didn't understand what was happening	07:28
CBiLL	ok popping in cd and unplugging it from network	07:28
superm1	foxbuntu, purlple ish?	07:28
rhpot1991	can't he dpkg from the cd then?	07:28
superm1	CBiLL, either that or wait until alpha4 this week	07:29
CBiLL	no I enjoy doing this	07:29
CBiLL	rebooting it	07:29
foxbuntu	superm1, yeah, it kinda turned out that way due to the color blending issues I have been dealing with	07:29
CBiLL	I have nothing else to do	07:29
CBiLL	would like to check this remote for you too	07:29
foxbuntu	white looks like crap and gray makes it hard to read	07:30
CBiLL	to see how it turn out and maybe you can add it in alpha 4	07:30
superm1	CBiLL, yea i have one more lirc commit i want to do this week	07:30
superm1	before alpha4	07:30
superm1	so if that remote needs somethign changed	07:30
foxbuntu	superm1, how do I put the theme into ubiquity?	07:31
CBiLL	going to try atiusb and putting that conf in but Ill let you know when it done installing .. probably another hour chuckle	07:31
superm1	foxbuntu, just start ubiquity with it set as your theme	07:31
superm1	sudo ubiquity mythbuntu_ui	07:31
foxbuntu	I did that but it came up all default looking	07:31
foxbuntu	oh	07:31
superm1	after installing ubiquity-frontend-mythbuntu	07:31
foxbuntu	I didnt do that however	07:32
foxbuntu	I grabbed the wrong ubiquity too	07:32
foxbuntu	damn	07:32
foxbuntu	still all default	07:33
CBiLL	what the different between ATI and ATI (userspace)?	07:33
superm1	CBiLL, one uses a kernel module	07:33
superm1	and one doesnt	07:33
CBiLL	ah ok choosing one that use kernel module then	07:34
CBiLL	since it was using both dev and atiusb on mythdora	07:34
CBiLL	that DD is gonna be boring again lol	07:36
foxbuntu	superm1, it won't show up with the theme	07:37
CBiLL	one thing I notice when I started over it asked if I wanted to use free space on my disk which have 55% left	07:38
CBiLL	and does it mean last install only partition 45 % of the disk?	07:38
superm1	just take it all up	07:38
CBiLL	I did	07:38
superm1	no use having two installs	07:38
CBiLL	yup did that	07:39
CBiLL	but was kinda wondering why it saw I have 55% free partation to use unless that was meant for where video are storaged in	07:39
rhpot1991	how does mythbuntu partition the are used to store the videos?	07:40
CBiLL	no idea	07:40
CBiLL	oh a question	07:40
superm1	rhpot1991, nothign special is in the installer yet for partitioning reciped	07:40
CBiLL	once I am done installing system and setting up mythtv	07:40
CBiLL	do I plug my network back in?	07:40
CBiLL	need it for Datadirect	07:40
superm1	oh thats right	07:41
superm1	that's okay to plug back in the	07:41
CBiLL	same error popped up	07:41
CBiLL	(network is not plugged in)	07:41
CBiLL	click on "OK"?	07:42
superm1	woah really.	07:42
superm1	yea	07:42
superm1	you might have to wait for alpha4 then	07:42
superm1	shoudl this still happen	07:42
CBiLL	aw shoot	07:42
CBiLL	ok	07:42
CBiLL	still installing	07:42
rhpot1991	superm1: a nice LVM with xfs would be a good choice for a video partition	07:44
superm1	rhpot1991, LVM is not going to happen	07:44
superm1	not in this release	07:44
superm1	upstream installer needs to have a huge huge overhaul	07:45
superm1	for that to be supported	07:45
CBiLL	gonna go ahead an reboot it	07:45
CBiLL	without setting up mythtv	07:45
rhpot1991	IIRC ubuntu makes you use the classic debian installer for LVM	07:45
foxbuntu	superm1, I must be retarded because my theme won't apply to ubiquity at all	07:46
rhpot1991	I'll have to check out the installer when you get the next alpha out, so I can know what the heck is going on	07:46
superm1	foxbuntu, try another	07:46
superm1	and see	07:46
foxbuntu	those apply	07:46
foxbuntu	but when I switch to my custom one it goes default	07:46
superm1	i dunno foxbuntu	07:47
CBiLL	darn failed to start X server oh well	07:47
CBiLL	it was a good try	07:47
superm1	rhpot1991, we dont use normal d-i	07:47
superm1	we use a frontend that i wrote derived from the GTK frontend of ubiquity	07:48
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superm1	rhpot1991, okay you'll see at alpha4 :)	07:48
rhpot1991	heh	07:48
rhpot1991	I guess so	07:48
CBiLL	look like I have to wait until alpha4 =P	07:49
OpenMedia	superm1: what additional themes are included in the community theme package?	07:50
superm1	OpenMedia, that package is gone for alpha4	07:50
foxbuntu	superm1, want me to commit and see if you can make it work?	07:50
CBiLL	Crux looks good	07:50
superm1	foxbuntu, i can try it	07:50
foxbuntu	ok	07:50
superm1	but not make it work	07:50
foxbuntu	ugh	07:51
foxbuntu	why	07:51
foxbuntu	why do you litteral me everytime?	07:51
OpenMedia	superm1: Wanted to take a look at what you were considering. Got a link to an older version I can suck down. None of my mythbuntu instances are running at the moment so I can't use them to pull one down.	07:51
superm1	OpenMedia, that box was just a place holder	07:52
OpenMedia	Ah ok. Got a quite a few customers who really don't like any of the standard MythTV themes. Keep getting requests for ProjectGraham amongst others.	07:53
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foxbuntu	superm1, is the gtk branch locked?	07:54
superm1	foxbuntu, shouldn't be	07:54
foxbuntu	how do I break the lock again?	07:54
superm1	bzr break-lock	07:54
superm1	but	07:54
superm1	you might want to try to bzr pull	07:54
superm1	to see if you are just out of sync	07:55
foxbuntu	I did bzr update and it says its current at rev	07:55
foxbuntu	5	07:55
superm1	yea that's rightg	07:56
foxbuntu	i am getting a whole bunch up this	07:58
foxbuntu	http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/gtk2-engines-mythbuntu	07:58
foxbuntu	ugh	07:58
foxbuntu	Cannot lock: transport is read only:	07:58
superm1	foxbuntu, you cant push to http	07:59
superm1	only to bzr+ssh or sftp	07:59
foxbuntu	thats just from bzr commit	07:59
superm1	sounds like you are bound to a http branch only	07:59
superm1	when you did bzr co yesterday	07:59
foxbuntu	hmm	07:59
superm1	was it bzr co bzr+ssh://, bzr co sftp://, or bzr co http://	07:59
foxbuntu	ok I got it now	08:01
rhpot1991	hmmmm, how hard would it be to make a 2ndary backend be a master backend?	08:01
superm1	rhpot1991, not too hard	08:01
rhpot1991	seems my master is having some hard drive failure right now	08:01
superm1	rhpot1991, especially if you can get a mysql backup to it	08:02
rhpot1991	mysql backup is on the master, let me see if I have a knoppix or live ubuntu disc lying around	08:02
foxbuntu	superm1, rev 6 is online	08:03
cann	morning =)	08:05
rhpot1991	hmmm actually came up that time, DMA errors on the hard drive can't be a good sign for the future though	08:09
superm1	woah um foxbuntu this sitll had a really odd look	08:10
foxbuntu	screenshot	08:10
foxbuntu	since mine wont theme	08:10
foxbuntu	did you see the check boxes in there?	08:10
superm1	i just mean in general	08:10
superm1	its got a odd look	08:11
foxbuntu	oh	08:11
superm1	ubquity is themed by it	08:11
superm1	its like a weird combo of dark and light	08:11
rhpot1991	I'm off to get some sleep, have a good night guys	08:11
foxbuntu	lol	08:11
superm1	night	08:11
superm1	ah needed to set default colors	08:11
superm1	its all purple	08:11
superm1	thats why	08:11
foxbuntu	?	08:12
superm1	let me pastebin something	08:12
superm1	and you'll see	08:12
foxbuntu	ok	08:12
superm1	what theme engine is this using?	08:13
foxbuntu	pixmap	08:13
foxbuntu	and default	08:13
superm1	maybe base it from clearlooks?	08:14
superm1	to give it a better look	08:14
foxbuntu	ugh	08:14
superm1	there are still a lot of dark grey menus	08:14
foxbuntu	is clearlooks an engine you have in the disk?	08:14
superm1	it is easily added	08:14
foxbuntu	ok well..I am going to do a full over on the theme then based on clearlooks	08:15
superm1	http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotjg0.png	08:15
foxbuntu	superm1, yeah, thats one of the things I have been figting	08:16
foxbuntu	fighting	08:16
foxbuntu	idk...it needs alot of work	08:17
superm1	yes it does	08:17
foxbuntu	the thing I am trying to avoid is changing the desktop BG that we already have...but I am starting to think its going to be unaviodable to get this to work	08:18
foxbuntu	superm1, anyways...I need to hit the sack...long day tomorrow	08:19
superm1	okay night foxbuntu	08:19
foxbuntu	night	08:20
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TUX_FL	hi all. i went to dl mythtv and there is a file patcher.sh. how./when do I run this and where do I find the documentation? I found nothing on knoppmyth forums	08:56
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Daviey	superm1: go to bed!	10:09
superm1	shhhh	10:09
superm1	i'm not really awake	10:09
superm1	i'm sleep typing	10:09
Daviey	heh	10:09
Daviey	I'm going to email bendailey later... what do you think as a subdomain then?	10:10
superm1	well lets just have the uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org go to you	10:10
superm1	and weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org go to atrpms server	10:11
Daviey	uk.download.myththbuntu.org or maybe uk.archieve.mythbuntu.org	10:11
superm1	and then for cdimages	10:12
superm1	uk.cdimages.mythbuntu.org ?	10:12
Daviey	yep	10:12
superm1	give me the IP, i'll shoot the mail off right now	10:12
superm1	before i get to bed	10:12
Daviey	fair nuff	10:12
superm1	and he'll get those up tomorrow morning then	10:12
Daviey	grep: addr:: No such file or directory	10:13
Daviey	inet addr:212.13.194.26 Bcast:212.13.194.127 Mask:255.255.255.128	10:13
Daviey	inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0	10:13
Daviey	bah.. that's what you get for trying to use irssi's "/exec"	10:13
Daviey	212.13.194.26 <-	10:14
superm1	so Daviey uk.archive.mythbuntu.org or uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org	10:15
superm1	i guess archive makes more sense	10:15
Daviey	hmm.. don't mind - but yeah.. seems so	10:15
superm1	but then again, axel's already got things setup as weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org	10:15
superm1	lets do weeklybuilds for now	10:15
Daviey	we'll need to structure it with stable and non-stable\|weekly	10:15
superm1	well the way the PPA architecture works, that's less than easy	10:16
Daviey	well if people use PPA as a repo i agree; but i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to script a few mv's	10:16
superm1	ppa automatically superseeds though	10:17
superm1	and removes old packages	10:17
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superm1	you'll find out after they go live tomrorow	10:17
Daviey	tommorow!?	10:17
superm1	i've had to work around some big annoyances with them	10:17
superm1	they are supposeed to go live on wed	10:18
Daviey	ie?	10:18
superm1	version numbers	10:18
superm1	superseeding	10:18
superm1	having to manually requeue some builds	10:18
superm1	for like mythtv/mythplugins	10:18
Daviey	oh	10:18
superm1	unsigned packages	10:18
Daviey	can you ask ben to CC his return mail; so i can get it setup faster	10:18
Daviey	CC, me	10:19
superm1	sure i'll put you on a CC	10:19
Daviey	ta	10:19
superm1	as soon as PPA goes live, i need to push ubiquity, mythbuntu-control-centre,mythstream to it	10:20
superm1	and then we can build alpha4	10:20
Daviey	how does PPA packages get to atrpms?	10:20
superm1	at this point, i have a wget script	10:20
Daviey	pushed or pulled? apt-mirror or scp?	10:20
superm1	that grabs it all	10:20
superm1	apt-mirror seems to only work as root?	10:20
superm1	unless you know how to do it as a user?	10:20
Daviey	sure?	10:20
Daviey	hang on	10:20
superm1	if you can do it as a user, i'll have axel install apt-mirror on there.	10:21
Daviey	$ apt-mirror	10:21
Daviey	Downloading 22 index files using 20 threads...	10:21
Daviey	apt-mirror: can't write to intermediate file (index-urls.0) at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 174.	10:21
Daviey	is that the error?	10:21
superm1	something like that yea	10:21
superm1	i messed around with a local mirrors.list	10:21
superm1	in a home directory	10:21
superm1	but couldnt get it to work	10:21
Daviey	oh.. looks like it needs a tmp write permission or something	10:21
Daviey	I'll have a play.. i'm certain it's possible	10:21
superm1	wget -nv -nH -R index.html?* -np -m http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/	10:22
superm1	is what i settled on for wget	10:22
Daviey	eeeeek	10:22
superm1	yea	10:22
superm1	especially since you have to re grab all items	10:22
Daviey	That's the most complex wget line i have ever seen	10:22
superm1	haha	10:22
superm1	i spent like 10 minutes crafting it	10:22
superm1	finding the right paramaters	10:22
superm1	or even parameters	10:22
Daviey	heh - i'll have to `wget -h` to see what the heck it does	10:23
superm1	still don't have signing working right either	10:23
superm1	if you can get the repo signed correctly after mirroring	10:23
superm1	let me know	10:23
superm1	i'm not sure what files i'm supposed to be signing, but i'm obviously doing the wrong ones	10:23
Daviey	hmm.. i could play with that today.. can you check in the script you are currently using?	10:23
Daviey	check-in or email	10:24
superm1	wget -nv -nH -R index.html?* -np -m http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/	10:24
superm1	gpg -abs -o /srv/weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/www/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/feisty/Release.gpg /srv/weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/www/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/feisty/Release	10:24
superm1	gpg -abs -o /srv/weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/www/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release.gpg /srv/weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/www/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release	10:24
superm1	that's everything	10:24
Daviey	erm.. i don't think i have the private key tho	10:24
superm1	so obviously using the primary gpg key on the box	10:24
superm1	use your own	10:24
superm1	to test it	10:24
Daviey	k	10:24
superm1	once you've got things right, then we can sort out where to keep the private key	10:25
superm1	maybe have each of us apt-mirror from the PPA	10:25
superm1	and then i'll sign	10:25
superm1	and you wget the Release.gpg	10:25
superm1	or both of us sign	10:25
superm1	however	10:25
Daviey	yeah.. that can be sorted later.. I'm keen to try and keep all the mirrors as uptodate as poss	10:26
superm1	well and with apt-mirror	10:26
superm1	that's really freaking easy	10:27
superm1	once its set up	10:27
superm1	okay bed for me. hopefully you get apt-mirror sorted out :) ping or mail me with what you find.	10:28
superm1	i mailed ben and CCed you on it	10:28
Daviey	k	10:29
Daviey	nn	10:29
superm1	night	10:29
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laga	re	12:11
laga	gah	12:27
laga	superm1: any idea why lirc_atiusb.ko doesn't build with lirc 0.8.2 backported to feisty?	12:27
Daviey	laga: he's gone to bed	12:29
laga	i know	12:32
laga	no lircd.conf for my remote. sad.	12:33
laga	oh, ati_remote.ko has a repeat_filter parameter, that could be useful, too	12:38
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dablitz	good morning channel	12:45
dablitz	is there anyone around	12:45
DaveMorris	morning dablitz	12:47
DaveMorris	Daviey: when you ordered those IR receivers what was the delivery time roughly?	12:48
dablitz	can you help me out with something	12:48
DaveMorris	I can try	12:48
dablitz	how to I dump my current myth database so I can start all over	12:49
DaveMorris	mysqldump -u<username> -p<password> <databasename> > dump.sql	12:50
DaveMorris	not sure what the db name is atm, let me check	12:50
dablitz	will that erase the current mythconverg	12:50
laga	DaveMorris: mythconverg	12:51
DaveMorris	no, it dumps a copy of the database into the file dump.sql	12:51
dablitz	no I want to erase the current and start fresh	12:51
laga	dablitz: no, use "drop" in mysql for that	12:51
DaveMorris	laga: thanks, saves me looking it up	12:51
dablitz	ok what whould the string be for that	12:51
laga	i'm still amazed how many people misinterpret "ubuntu" as "let others read the manuel for you"	12:52
laga	s/manuel/manual/	12:52
dablitz	ok i get	12:53
DaveMorris	dablitz: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/drop-database.html has the syntax for dropdb	12:53
dablitz	so mysql -u XXXXXX -p XXXXXX drop mythconverg;	12:54
DaveMorris	seems right	12:55
dablitz	thankyou	12:55
laga	almost	12:55
DaveMorris	although you may need to be root	12:55
dablitz	so sudo ........	12:55
laga	you mustn't have a space between "-p" and the password	12:55
laga	dablitz: you shouldn't IRC as root, btw	12:55
dablitz	thanks	12:55
DaveMorris	his gone but for the logs. root on mysql isn't always the same as root on the system, so instead use -u root	12:56
laga	fsck LIRC	12:57
laga	back to inputlirc it is.	12:57
laga	[620276.010314] ivtv0: All encoder MPEG stream buffers are full. Dropping data.	12:59
laga	poor backend :(	12:59
laga	[620276.010322] ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough.	12:59
laga	gah	12:59
Daviey	DaveMorris: dunno <2 weeks iirc	01:05
Daviey	bah.. somebody wake up superm1	01:06
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DaveMorris	maybe if we all shout at once	01:06
Daviey	DaveMorris: my last set of shipit cd's went via uganda	01:06
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Daviey	bah.. DaveMorris is tooo busy to talk to us	01:07
laga	bah	01:07
DaveMorris	well it is lunchtime in a mo, and food comes 1st :P	01:07
Daviey	what are we having?	01:08
DaveMorris	Coronation chicken sandwiches	01:12
Daviey	yum	01:14
DaveMorris	FTSE100 is down again	01:15
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cornell_work	Morning all... just a reality check from a novice, who doesn't want to screw things up too badly. On www.mythbuntu.org, it says that myth 0.20.2 includes support for Schedules DIrect, and Gutsy users can upgrade through "standard apt methods".	01:54
cornell_work	That'd be sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade, right?	01:54
laga	if you have to ask, just use synaptic or adept or whatever GUI frontend is used at the moment	01:55
cornell_work	It's just that, one reason I'm on mythbuntu, is I trashed my knoppmyth by doing a apt-det upgrade, don't want to trash mythbuntu. Using synaptic would be like simply hitting the update, or do I have to go through and check the 0.20.2 packages?	01:58
cornell_work	s/a apt-det/an apt-get/	01:58
laga	0.20.2 should already be in gutsy universe, so a normal upgrade should be OK	01:59
laga	it's unlikely you'll trash your mythbuntu install, but it's possible, of course	02:00
laga	get a backup if you're worried.	02:00
laga	or don't use experimental software.	02:00
Daviey	cornell_work: knoppmyth will openly admit that at times their repo's are in a mess.. you should be fine upgrading on *buntu	02:00
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Daviey	bendailey: o/	02:15
bendailey	superm1, Good Morning	02:15
Daviey	Did you get superm1's mail?	02:15
Daviey	superm1, is in bed	02:15
bendailey	Daviey, yeah	02:15
bendailey	dns is updated and resolves properly here	02:16
laga	morning bendailey	02:17
laga	oh	02:17
laga	what DNS?	02:17
bendailey	morning laga	02:17
Daviey	bendailey: you star	02:17
bendailey	mythbuntu.org records	02:17
bendailey	thanks Daviey, glad I can help	02:17
laga	to where are they pointing now? do we have a new web host?	02:18
Daviey	bendailey: resolves here aswell	02:18
Daviey	ta	02:18
Daviey	laga: I'm being a mirror	02:18
bendailey	main site is the same just mirrors for weeklybuilds and cdimages	02:19
laga	ah	02:19
bendailey	Daviey, thanks for checking	02:20
bendailey	I am going to drop superm1 an email also	02:21
bendailey	ttyl	02:22
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Daviey	superm1: go back to bed	02:36
laga	" We may not always agree, but	03:01
laga	disagreement is no excuse for poor behaviour and poor	03:01
laga	manners."	03:01
laga	i can't possibly sign the code of conduct	03:01
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cornell_work	Thanks Daviey	03:14
Daviey	cornell_work: what have i done?	03:26
Daviey	laga: where was that a quote from?	03:26
Daviey	laga: doh.. the CoC which i have signed	03:26
Daviey	eek	03:26
laga	heh	03:26
laga	no yelling "RTFM" for you then ;)	03:27
Daviey	f'k off	03:27
Daviey	:)	03:27
Daviey	What's wrong with, Read The Friendly Manual?	03:27
laga	heh	03:27
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DaveMorris	but not Daviey's ;)	03:30
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gpd	possible faq: can I add the mythbuntu repository to my regular ubuntu feisty machine to get latest packages of mythtv?	03:50
Daviey	yes	03:50
Daviey	but, they are currently not signed packages	03:51
Daviey	They will be later today	03:51
gpd	ok - so i just add feisty-proposed :)?	03:51
Daviey	well later today I or Mario will post to the ML with details, i expect	03:52
gpd	ok - thanks	03:52
Daviey	gpd: what arch are you running?	03:53
Daviey	i386 or amd64?	03:53
rhpot1991	gpd if you do that let me know how it works for you, I did it and I have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend stuck and it keeps updating it constantly	04:05
Daviey	rhpot1991: is that a mythbuntu or ubuntu install?	04:07
rhpot1991	ubuntu install with mythbuntu repos added later	04:07
rhpot1991	its really strange, since the package installed fine and works fine	04:08
Daviey	hmm.. that is odd - i haven't heard of that issue before	04:08
rhpot1991	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35339/	04:08
rhpot1991	ya I have been talking with mario about it, apparently I'm the only one	04:08
Daviey	hmm	04:08
Daviey	Have you tried removing + reinstalling?	04:08
rhpot1991	yep	04:09
rhpot1991	purged the package and all	04:09
rhpot1991	also, I have this happening on 2 boxes	04:09
rhpot1991	I went and completely removed everything mythtv on the one last night	04:09
rhpot1991	and reinstalled, same problem still existed	04:09
rhpot1991	the only thing I have done different at all is that I installed mythweather revamp by hand a while back	04:09
Daviey	ah	04:10
Daviey	have you tried removing that after --purge?	04:10
rhpot1991	did remove then purge?	04:10
rhpot1991	no ? there	04:10
rhpot1991	I can try the other way around, but I thought remove then purge was the way to do it	04:11
rhpot1991	let me see if I can ssh in	04:11
Daviey	it is	04:11
Daviey	Sorry i mean't manually remove any mythweather stuff	04:11
rhpot1991	I did make uninstall	04:12
rhpot1991	and then went and removed files I saw that were mythweather related	04:12
rhpot1991	I could have missed some though	04:12
rhpot1991	not really sure why that should effect it at all	04:12
rhpot1991	if I remove the weekly build repos, it stops wanting to update	04:13
Daviey	after purge, sudo find / -iname myth	04:14
Daviey	seems the package isn't installing correctly	04:14
rhpot1991	sudo find / -iname myth	04:15
rhpot1991	didn't return anything	04:16
Daviey	hmm	04:16
rhpot1991	that doesn't make sense	04:17
rhpot1991	is that searching for files with myth in it	04:17
Daviey	sorry.. poorly formed search	04:17
Daviey	sudo find / \| grep myth	04:18
cornell_work	Daviey, you answered about the knoppmyth and that buntu'd be ok... I'm at work and so sometimes don't get to respond in a timely fashion.	04:18
Daviey	ah... ok	04:18
rhpot1991	hmmm thats a whole ton of results	04:18
rhpot1991	Daviey: you looking for something specific from those results?	04:21
Daviey	rhpot1991: i need to dash.. sorry	04:22
rhpot1991	alright	04:22
laga	http://www.linux.com/feature/118668	04:44
laga	^^ comparison between mythbuntu, mythdora and knoppmyth	04:44
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superm1	laga, yea i just saw that	04:45
superm1	interesting read	04:45
bendailey	superm1, just shot you an email	04:46
superm1	bendailey, okay great. just got up, so i'll get it in a few	04:46
DaveMorris	"The GTK theme, however, needs replacing -- not for the aesthetic reasons I usually complain about, but because the on and off button states are too difficult to distinguish. That is very important at install time, when a bad selection can hose your entire hard drive, and doubly so when running a live CD with its slow user interface response time." - worth noting	04:47
superm1	Yea indeed.	04:51
DaveMorris	also the part about when we are jumping between OS/mythtv questions in the installer	04:52
DaveMorris	prehaps we can change the order	04:52
superm1	well with the new installer changes going in alpha4, changing the order isn't very difficult	04:53
DaveMorris	I actually run the retro theme myself, what are the new themes like that have been added?	04:53
Daviey	superm1: arg!	04:54
laga	new installer changes? anything nifty? :)	04:54
Daviey	I'm on my way out..	04:54
superm1	Daviey, anything on apt-mirror?	04:54
superm1	before you leave	04:54
Daviey	yes	04:54
Daviey	sorted!	04:54
DaveMorris	also, we use openbox, I was wondering weather using xfce will make it feel and behave more like ubuntu (gnome)	04:54
superm1	DaveMorris, wonderful!	04:54
Daviey	Check out the uk repo ;)	04:54
Daviey	Bah.. i do the work and DaveMorris gets the thanks	04:54
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superm1	haha	04:54
superm1	wonderful <tab><tab> Daviey	04:55
Daviey	superm1: I have automated the apt-mirror and signing in a script	04:55
Daviey	and cron'd it	04:55
superm1	Daviey, can you shoot me a mail	04:55
superm1	befroer you leave then	04:55
Daviey	erm	04:55
Daviey	I literally need to go	04:55
superm1	and i'll get it on atrpms	04:55
superm1	na no you dont	04:55
superm1	your lying.	04:55
Daviey	problem tho	04:55
Daviey	.. the pgp passphrase will need to be stored in plaintext	04:55
superm1	i'll sort htat with you in a pm.	04:56
Daviey	okay..	04:56
superm1	later on	04:56
Daviey	script is pretty straight forward	04:56
superm1	laga, all installer steps are debconf'ized now.	04:56
Daviey	be back in ~2hrs	04:56
superm1	k	04:56
Daviey	- but uk.cdimage and uk.weekly' is working	04:56
Daviey	have a look	04:56
Daviey	ttfn	04:56
superm1	er they have different roots. but yea okay	04:57
superm1	later l	04:57
laga	superm1: cool	04:57
superm1	DaveMorris, you mean full out xfce?	04:57
superm1	DaveMorris, or just xfce's window manager?	04:57
superm1	laga, so consequently the installer is a little slower, but can be fully rearranged	04:58
DaveMorris	the full out xfce is quite light I beleive, and may fit on the cd	04:58
superm1	after alpha4 this week lets experiment	04:58
laga	superm1: is it easier to add new questions now, or do you still have to hack ubiquity?	04:58
superm1	laga, well yes/no	04:58
superm1	i mean you still need to put them in multiple places	04:58
DaveMorris	it'd def very light on resources, running it on a 366mhz machine with 128Mb ram and its quite responsive etc	04:59
superm1	but it feels less hacky	04:59
laga	superm1: k	04:59
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tgm4883	superm1, if it is any consolation, his website is still down	05:10
tgm4883	so he may just be ignoring you because he doesn't have an answer yet	05:10
superm1	tgm4883, you you mean brandon.	05:11
bdmurray	superm1: I'm not sure the new mythfilldatabase (feisty-proposed) is working for me	05:11
tgm4883	yea	05:11
superm1	bdmurray, can you check the consistency of your database?	05:11
superm1	bdmurray, there was a report already that someone had broken sql tables, and needed to run the contrib/optimize.pl	05:12
superm1	script	05:12
bdmurray	superm1: alrighty	05:12
tgm4883	superm1, when 20.2 clears feisty proposed it will be in feisty (or feisty backports) right?	05:12
superm1	tgm4883, feisty-updates	05:13
tgm4883	ah	05:13
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superm1	okay kids i'm out for now. be back later	05:21
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temba	hello	05:26
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keescook	superm1_: errors:	05:34
keescook	Setting up mythtv-backend (0.20.2-0ubuntu0.7.04~proposed1) ...	05:34
keescook	mythbackend already running, use restart instead.	05:34
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keescook	bdmurray: I got the same warning in the status display, but the mythfill seemed not to have errors	05:45
tgm4883	superm1 superm1_, when your around again, I forgot another module you need to install in drupal	05:45
laga	Standing alone for the world to see	05:46
laga	Non-starter - push harder	05:46
laga	He still believes his time will come	05:46
laga	Small wonder - old thunder	05:46
laga	oops, sorry!	05:46
tgm4883	hmm	05:46
laga	stupid fingers	05:46
tgm4883	laga is a poet and didn't know it	05:46
laga	that was an (accidental) quote from the song "bad to the bone" by running wild	05:46
laga	<3 speed metal	05:46
tgm4883	cue terminator	05:46
bdmurray	keescook: did you check you schedule data? mine had empty information at the end last i checked	05:47
keescook	bdmurray: what do you mean by "empty"?	05:47
bdmurray	keescook: "NO DATA" at the last day of scheduling information	05:47
keescook	I have the same (it's the edge of available data)	05:48
keescook	what I should have done was see how far it went _before_ the fill. :P	05:48
keescook	since the DD fill happened at 2007-08-28 07:37:42, it's not a giant surprise that nothing new got pulled when I tried SD at 2007-08-28 08:43:48	05:49
bdmurray	keescook: better catch bryce then	05:50
temba	guys	05:55
tgm4883	temba	05:55
temba	one quest, how can i install GNOME after installed the mythbuntu ?	05:55
temba	via console ?	05:55
temba	hi tgm4883	05:55
tgm4883	is the control center in alpha 3?	05:55
tgm4883	sec temba	05:56
temba	hmm when i "exit" mythtv, i have a desktop with stop mythtv , restart mythtv	05:56
temba	and so on	05:56
temba	i can login with user i added at install, but i cant choose "gnome" for session	05:57
tgm4883	right	05:57
tgm4883	let me look it up real quick	05:57
temba	oke	05:57
DaveMorris	sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will pull in the whole gnome desktop and OOo etc	05:57
temba	ah oke, and how setup network settings ? also console ?	05:58
DaveMorris	it can be done on the console, not sure if the gui tool is installed	05:58
temba	nope	05:59
tgm4883	DaveMorris, i was looking for the control centre, is it not in gutsy yet?	05:59
temba	no gui, but its oke, i am bit experienced with console	05:59
temba	tgm4883 i have this 7.10 from mythbuntu.org	05:59
tgm4883	temba, why do you need to setup network settings	06:00
tgm4883	mythbuntu is based on gutsy	06:00
temba	in mythtv i clicked something that opened a browser and it couldnt conect to www	06:00
temba	ahh gutsy = ubuntu 7.10	06:00
tgm4883	the network settings should already be setup, as thats how you get your schedule	06:00
tgm4883	open up a terminal and to lspci	06:01
tgm4883	see if it see's your network card	06:01
tgm4883	and do ifconfig	06:01
temba	i wondered at setup 7.10 it only asked for uip of machine, it dont asked for gateway and dns	06:01
tgm4883	temba, what does ifconfig say?	06:05
temba	tgm4883 i can paste later, at moment i am at work, and pc with myth setup is home	06:05
tgm4883	ah ok	06:05
tgm4883	well when you do paste	06:06
tgm4883	remember	06:06
temba	is samba also included, or how do i put films onit	06:06
tgm4883	!pastebin	06:06
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	06:06
temba	sure	06:06
temba	i know pastebin well	06:06
temba	hehe	06:06
tgm4883	samba i believe is installed by default	06:06
temba	ok	06:06
tgm4883	i'll also find out where the control centre is for you	06:06
temba	u work with remote control on mythtv ?	06:06
tgm4883	as that makes installing the desktop easier	06:06
temba	ahh	06:06
tgm4883	yes, i have remote	06:07
temba	great if u find out , woul dbe cool	06:07
temba	what remote u can recommend ? i am not firm with this. i read anything about LIRC or so	06:07
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tgm4883	I really like the MCE remote	06:08
tgm4883	it's a really good remote that superm1 recommended to me	06:08
tgm4883	although, if you have a serial receiver, you can use any remote I think	06:08
temba	oke , i finish at work and on way home now	06:26
tgm4883	k	06:26
temba	u found out where the mythtv control centre is ?	06:26
tgm4883	looking	06:27
tgm4883	i think i know though	06:27
temba	anyway , 1-2 hours i am back in here	06:27
laga	is the control centre already in alpha 3?	06:37
tgm4883	laga, no	06:48
tgm4883	alpha 4	06:48
tgm4883	but it should be downloadable into alpha 3	06:48
tgm4883	i think it is in superm1's ppa	06:49
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fxfitz	Hey there! Are the weekly builds fixed? It looks like on mythbuntu.org there is a test server?	06:52
tgm4883	weekly iso's?	06:53
fxfitz	No no, like... umm... package updates I think they're called. I don't use Mythbuntu (regular Ubuntu) and I used to have it set up so I can get updates from Mythbuntu for all my MythTV stuff.	06:53
fxfitz	Does that sound familiar?	06:53
tgm4883	ah	06:54
tgm4883	were they broke at some time?	06:54
laga	it's not ready yet AFAIK	06:54
tgm4883	it's still on the ppa test server	06:54
laga	Weekly Builds	06:55
laga	Lastly, weekly builds on the current test server, ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net have been updated. These include the gutsy packaging, but are built for Feisty. We're still waiting for PPA to go live to migrate to the new server and include signed keys. There was an unanticipated delay in it's roll-out. The new URL will be announced as soon as we're ready.	06:55
laga	right	06:55
fxfitz	Gotcha. Thanks a bunch! I'm just dying to update these 20 packages. :-P	06:55
tgm4883	well don't do that. It's hard to update from beyond the grave :)	06:56
fxfitz	Hehe :-P	06:57
laga	sure	07:00
laga	use a cron job	07:00
tgm4883	lol	07:01
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fxfitz	Actually, http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds took care of what I wanted! Woo!	07:04
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rhpot1991	fxfitz: did you updates via the auto builds yet?	07:09
fxfitz	rhpot1991, Yup, sure have.	07:09
rhpot1991	do you have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend package installed?	07:10
fxfitz	rhpot1991, Nope. Why??	07:11
rhpot1991	I am having a problem where it will not get out of my update list	07:11
rhpot1991	even though it is installed correctly	07:11
fxfitz	Hmm. I don't know.	07:14
fxfitz	I'm actually not using Mythbuntu, just all the packages, so that might be why its different.,	07:14
rhpot1991	thats what I am doing too, just wanted to see if you had that package and if it worked ok	07:15
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superm1	Daviey, have you returned?	07:46
superm1	i'm here for a little	07:46
laga	superm1: looked at my bugs/feature requests for the lirc generator yet?	07:48
superm1	laga, No, want to point me at them?	07:48
laga	sure	07:48
laga	https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135275	07:49
ubotu	Launchpad bug 135275 in mythbuntu-lirc-generator "Can't change capture cards/inputs" [Undecided,New]	07:49
laga	https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135277	07:49
ubotu	Launchpad bug 135277 in mythbuntu-lirc-generator "repeat/delay not handled for lircrc" [Undecided,New]	07:49
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superm1	laga, the repeat one, how do you decide which buttons get repeat?	07:50
tgm4883	superm1, http://drupal.org/project/views	07:50
laga	superm1: i imagined a global setting for now	07:50
superm1	laga, in my experience, repeat is only a good idea on buttons like volume and channel though	07:51
tgm4883	i also figured out why i need g2 drupal integration	07:51
laga	in my experience, it's a good idea on all buttons :)	07:51
superm1	tgm4883, looks interesting - do you have it up on the test site?	07:51
laga	i'm using a self-made lircd.conf though because the lirc stuff wouldn't work with ma ati remote wonder I otherwise	07:51
tgm4883	yea, i use it for the bittorrent plugin so i can see some stats	07:51
tgm4883	it was recommended by the bittorrent author	07:52
superm1	tgm4883, doesn't break anything by installing it right?	07:52
tgm4883	i don't believe so, seems to work on the test site	07:52
tgm4883	we can install it later though	07:52
superm1	well if it didn't break anything by installing it i'll pop it on right now	07:52
superm1	laga, what's missing of your lircd.conf?	07:53
superm1	odds are it affects other people too	07:53
tgm4883	yea, didn't break anything	07:53
superm1	eh i don't have my public key on this machine. i'll have to do it later from my other machine	07:53
laga	superm1: the whole conf was missing ;) userspace driver only had a lircd.conf for the remote wonder II; kernel space driver was not built (!) on my feisty install - i backported lirc to feisty	07:54
superm1	remote wonder I is difference?	07:54
laga	superm1: i built the kernel space driver manually but didn't get any irw output either.	07:54
laga	superm1: it would seem so	07:54
laga	maybe i was just using a different channel, though - it's got 16 channels	07:55
superm1	hm	07:55
laga	dunno how i'd select that in lirc, though. i was not really keen on investing too much time since my setup was already working.	07:56
laga	i'll submit my lircd.conf upstream once i added some missing keys.	07:56
superm1	k	07:57
laga	BTW, lircd.conf has "right" and "right_click" buttons. the lirc-generator assigned config = "right" to button "right_click". do you think there could be some more sophisticated matching algorithm?	07:58
superm1	well of course	07:59
superm1	file another bug :)	07:59
laga	yay	07:59
laga	later or tomorrow, gotta run now	08:00
laga	i could even try to add the repeat/delay stuff myself. global option would be simple	08:00
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Daviey	superm1: I'm here...	08:04
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laga	superm1: what exactly does "triage" mean?	08:14
tgm4883	laga, isn't that the urgent part of the emergency room?	08:14
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laga	tgm4883: i haven't watched that in a long time	08:16
tgm4883	laga, well i meant the real ER	08:17
Daviey	superm1__: ?	08:17
Daviey	Where'd you go?	08:17
superm1__	Daviey, my laptop froze	08:17
Daviey	bah	08:17
superm1__	can you just post the stuff in here in case it happens again so its logged by superm1_	08:17
Daviey	wait 1	08:19
Daviey	daughter needs me	08:19
superm1__	k	08:19
cornell_work	laga: "triage" is the act of determining which injuries are more serious, and hence who gets attention first.	08:21
tgm4883	it's french	08:22
tgm4883	so we probably shouldn't use it	08:22
cornell_work	oops... seriousness, and likelyhood of survival. That is, a seriously wounded person, might not get attention because his wounds are fatal.	08:25
Daviey	super	08:26
superm1__	ya	08:26
Daviey	superm1__: so you saved mirror.list?	08:26
superm1__	ya	08:26
Daviey	then mkdir /home/malimonc/mirror	08:26
cornell_work	Can also be used to reference sorting other things. See http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=16736	08:26
Daviey	then mkdir /home/malimonc/mirror/mirror	08:26
Daviey	then mkdir /home/malimonc/mirror/var	08:26
Daviey	then mkdir /home/malimonc/mirror/skel	08:27
superm1__	k	08:27
Daviey	apt-mirror /home/where_you_saved/mirror.list	08:27
Daviey	that's it.. for mirroring	08:27
Daviey	now.. what problem did you have signing?	08:28
superm1__	what files do you sign?	08:28
superm1__	and how	08:28
Daviey	I signed all Releases	08:28
superm1__	every one?	08:28
Daviey	yep	08:28
superm1__	so you just listed them?	08:28
superm1__	or used xargs or what?	08:28
Daviey	find -iname Release etc	08:28
Daviey	well i used "-exec" of find	08:29
superm1__	can you paste your line u did it with?	08:29
superm1__	minus passpharase of course	08:29
superm1__	or just make it XXXXX	08:29
superm1__	etc	08:29
Daviey	well passphrase is 123456	08:29
Daviey	really	08:29
Daviey	find /home/mythbuntu/apt-mirror/ -iname Release -exec sign.sh {}	08:29
Daviey	then sign.sh: cat mypgp.txt \| gpg --yes --passphrase-fd 0 -abs $1	08:30
Daviey	You cat fix them back to one - i had to use two as passphrase just wouldn't work from find directly :s	08:30
superm1__	and it auto outputs Release.gpg	08:30
superm1__	in the right place?	08:30
Daviey	erm	08:30
Daviey	Release.asc	08:31
Daviey	not Release.gpg	08:31
superm1__	ohh.	08:31
Daviey	should it be?	08:31
superm1__	i thought it was supposed to be Release.gpg?	08:31
superm1__	i dont know for sure	08:31
superm1__	but i thought	08:31
Daviey	better chek	08:31
Daviey	There is a package called debsign... That i tried to use	08:32
Daviey	"debsign: Must be run from top of source dir or a .changes file given as arg"	08:32
Daviey	which is hardly possible eh?	08:32
superm1__	right	08:32
Daviey	on another note.. I saw you winged about uk.* pointing to two different roots..	08:33
Daviey	Isn't that how it should be?	08:33
Daviey	considering they are different sub-domains?	08:33
superm1__	no.	08:33
superm1__	i want them to be identical mirrors	08:33
superm1__	as the ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net	08:34
superm1__	strcutre	08:34
superm1__	structure	08:34
Daviey	fair nuff... just seems odd to have two subdomains for the same thing tho :s	08:34
superm1__	well think of ubuntu mirrors	08:34
superm1__	thats how they do it too	08:35
Daviey	okay.. but i might add.. you are a pain :)	08:35
superm1__	of course i am :)	08:35
superm1__	symlinks	08:35
superm1__	are your friend	08:35
Daviey	yeah.. i as keeping it neat tho	08:36
Daviey	/home/mythbuntu/html/cdimage	08:36
Daviey	/home/mythbuntu/html/weeklybuilds	08:36
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superm1__	well under that directory weeklybuilds	08:37
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superm1__	just use mythbuntu/ubuntu	08:37
superm1__	structure	08:37
Daviey	arg..	08:37
Daviey	want ssh access to do it yourself	08:37
Daviey	:D	08:37
florin_andrei	support page suggestion: http://www.mythbuntu.org/support	08:37
superm1__	hi florin_andrei sure,what you think?	08:38
florin_andrei	it indicates the IRC channel, but there's no mention about the IRC server :-)	08:38
superm1__	florin_andrei, good call. tgm4883 ^	08:38
tgm4883	on it	08:38
Daviey	bah.. who uses anything other than freenode?	08:38
superm1__	gimpnet	08:39
florin_andrei	yeah, but still	08:39
Daviey	</sarcasim>	08:39
tgm4883	florin_andrei, i dont know what your talking about. It's right there ;)	08:39
florin_andrei	how long will the first release be supported? I'd like to build a server, and then upgrade only when absolutely necessary	08:40
florin_andrei	I was thinking to install CentOS (very long release cycle) but I may use Mythbuntu if releases are supported long enough	08:40
superm1__	florin_andrei, same time as ubuntu releases supported	08:41
Daviey	superm1__: refresk uk.*	08:41
florin_andrei	oh look, the support page is fixed! thanks :-)	08:41
superm1__	Daviey, my laptop is about to go dead. i'll be back in ~30-50 min.	08:42
Daviey	florin_andrei: but we promise that out packages rock	08:42
Daviey	:)	08:42
florin_andrei	silly question: how long will Gutsy be supported?	08:42
tgm4883	18 months	08:42
Daviey	florin_andrei: Gutsy+3 will be 3 years tho	08:43
Daviey	bah.. gutsy+1 rather	08:43
florin_andrei	so which one applies to Mythbuntu?	08:43
tgm4883	mythbuntu is based on gutsy	08:44
Daviey	but you can upgrade to gutsy+1 when it comes out	08:44
Daviey	rememeber ubuntu + myth rock	08:44
tgm4883	and i believe that it will receive gutsy updates for 18 months, but only mythbuntu updates for 6 months	08:44
florin_andrei	hm, this is not quite optimal for people building dedicated machines. that's pretty much a DIY appliance, you don't want to update it too often	08:45
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florin_andrei	I mean, a security update here and there is fine, but the whole OS, or even just the whole Myth suite... that's a bit too much	08:46
temba	re	08:47
temba	tgm4883 ? u there ?	08:48
tgm4883	yes	08:48
tgm4883	florin_andrei, im not totally sure about that	08:48
tgm4883	ask superm1, as he knows more	08:48
tgm4883	im just going by what I thought the wording meant on mythbuntu.org	08:48
temba	back again. i tried to connect to my pc to tv and get only weird screen, seems it cant sync with tv. ati radeon 9250 here	08:48
tgm4883	is your mythbuntu updated?	08:49
temba	u mean sudo apt-get update ?	08:49
tgm4883	yea	08:49
tgm4883	wait	08:49
tgm4883	sudo apt-get update	08:49
tgm4883	then	08:49
tgm4883	sudo apt-get upgrade	08:49
temba	mom gotta set ip shit	08:49
temba	u find out where control centre is ?	08:49
tgm4883	ah thats right	08:49
tgm4883	yep	08:49
tgm4883	what does ifconfig give you?	08:50
temba	mom	08:50
temba	just firing up machine	08:50
tgm4883	ok	08:50
tgm4883	im assuming mom means moment?	08:50
temba	yes	08:52
tgm4883	ok	08:52
tgm4883	just checking	08:52
temba	it shows eth0 and	08:52
tgm4883	ok, and your system doesn't get the ip from a dhcp server?	08:53
temba	nope	08:53
temba	my router has fixed ip	08:53
tgm4883	ok, how are you connected to the internet?	08:53
temba	yes	08:54
tgm4883	through a router which goes to a modem?	08:54
temba	this windows pc is also on the router	08:55
tgm4883	ah	08:55
tgm4883	can you open up a terminal on the windows pc and type ipconfig /all	08:55
tgm4883	is the ipaddress that it shows something like 192.168.x.x?	08:55
temba	nope cant connect via ssh	08:56
tgm4883	ok	08:56
tgm4883	click on start, then click on run	08:56
tgm4883	type in	08:56
tgm4883	cmd	08:56
tgm4883	then press enter	08:56
temba	cant ping the machine	08:56
tgm4883	does a dos prompt pop up?	08:56
temba	ya sure	08:56
tgm4883	ok	08:56
tgm4883	in the dos prompt	08:57
tgm4883	type	08:57
tgm4883	ipconfig /all	08:57
tgm4883	hit enter and tell me what the ip address starts with	08:57
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temba	http://pastebin.com/m76ad22d4	08:59
tgm4883	ok	08:59
tgm4883	lets try one thing on the linux machine first	08:59
temba	k	08:59
tgm4883	in the terminal	08:59
tgm4883	type in	09:00
tgm4883	sudo dhclient eth0	09:00
tgm4883	hit enter	09:00
temba	i tries several things now	09:02
tgm4883	ok	09:02
temba	NO dhcpoffers found	09:02
tgm4883	ok	09:03
tgm4883	then lets do this	09:03
tgm4883	do	09:04
tgm4883	sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces	09:04
temba	yep	09:05
temba	vi i like more	09:05
temba	ok	09:05
temba	i am in	09:05
tgm4883	sec	09:05
tgm4883	do you know of a free ip address for your network?	09:05
temba	normally it should look like this	09:05
temba	http://pastebin.com/m65297630	09:05
tgm4883	well yea sorta, but thats not quite right for your network	09:06
tgm4883	first, can you ping 192.168.2.7 from your windows machine	09:07
temba	nope	09:08
tgm4883	ok	09:08
temba	its free	09:08
tgm4883	ok, i think if you put this into that file it should work right	09:09
tgm4883	http://pastebin.com/m7b930b4e	09:09
tgm4883	once your done editing the file, save it	09:09
tgm4883	then do this	09:09
tgm4883	sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart	09:09
laga	superm1_: watch #mythtv ;)	09:12
laga	g'night	09:14
temba	hmm restart no result	09:16
temba	i reboot	09:16
tgm4883	hmm	09:16
tgm4883	ifconfig eth0 \| grep "inet addr"	09:17
tgm4883	can you ping the windows machine from the linux machine or vice versa	09:17
temba	moment	09:18
temba	yeah i can ping the linux machine	09:18
tgm4883	can the linux machine ping the windows machine?	09:18
tgm4883	or better yet	09:18
tgm4883	can the windows machine ping 192.168.2.1	09:19
temba	yes it can	09:19
tgm4883	ok	09:19
tgm4883	can you ping www.google.com	09:19
tgm4883	whoops, can the linux machine ping 192.168.2.1	09:20
temba	linux machine can ping router and win machine	09:21
temba	hmm	09:21
tgm4883	ok	09:21
temba	mom i try google	09:21
tgm4883	can linux machine ping www.google.com	09:21
temba	weird	09:23
temba	no	09:23
tgm4883	ok	09:24
temba	it can ping the win and router	09:24
tgm4883	thats fine	09:24
temba	but not any inet address	09:24
temba	fine ? :d	09:24
tgm4883	means we need to work on the dns	09:24
tgm4883	are their more than 1 dns address listed on the windows machine?	09:24
temba	nope	09:24
tgm4883	hmm	09:25
temba	dns it get form 192.168.2.1	09:25
tgm4883	what kind of router?	09:25
tgm4883	can the linux machine ping 72.14.253.104	09:25
temba	yes	09:26
tgm4883	ok	09:26
tgm4883	good	09:26
tgm4883	so it is a dns issue then	09:26
tgm4883	because the ip address i gave you is to www.google.com	09:26
temba	uh	09:27
temba	heh	09:27
temba	resolvconf ?	09:27
tgm4883	what kind of router?	09:27
temba	smc barricade	09:27
temba	dsl router	09:27
tgm4883	i've never used resolvconf	09:27
tgm4883	this is kinda uncharterd for me, as i use dhcp on my network and configure everything on the router	09:28
temba	ah k	09:29
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temba	hmm i can try a sudo apt-get update	09:29
tgm4883	probably wont work	09:29
tgm4883	but you can try it	09:29
foxbuntu	superm1_, you around?	09:29
tgm4883	foxbuntu is here :)	09:29
foxbuntu	tgm4883, afternoon :)	09:30
tgm4883	just barely	09:30
tgm4883	12:30 here	09:30
temba	dont work	09:30
tgm4883	figured not temba	09:30
temba	21:32 here	09:30
foxbuntu	14:30 here	09:30
tgm4883	foxbuntu, do you know much about configuring dns servers from the terminal?	09:30
foxbuntu	from terminal?	09:30
foxbuntu	hmm	09:30
foxbuntu	as I recall	09:31
tgm4883	yea, from a mythbuntu setup	09:31
foxbuntu	sudo nano /ect/resolv.conf	09:31
foxbuntu	and add them in the format shown in there	09:31
tgm4883	so add nameserver 192.168.0.1	09:32
foxbuntu	yup	09:32
tgm4883	nameserver 192.168.2.1	09:32
tgm4883	ok	09:32
tgm4883	get that temba?	09:32
tgm4883	except	09:32
temba	hmm	09:32
tgm4883	vi /etc/resolv.conf	09:32
tgm4883	cause foxbuntu is dyslexic sometimes	09:32
temba	maybe its that , i CANT find any "resolv.comnf" in /etc/	09:32
temba	shoudl i add it ?	09:33
foxbuntu	.conf perhaps?	09:33
tgm4883	no /etc/resolv.conf?	09:33
tgm4883	not comnf?	09:33
temba	ye	09:33
tgm4883	i'd just add it, as mine says it was generated by network manager	09:33
temba	mean cant find any "resolv.conf"	09:33
tgm4883	and the only thing in mine is	09:34
tgm4883	nameserver 192.168.0.1	09:34
tgm4883	so you should just add	09:34
tgm4883	nameserver 192.168.2.1	09:34
foxbuntu	won't hurt to add it and try it...however I think that file is auto gen by the interface conf	09:34
foxbuntu	so the root cause might be something else	09:35
tgm4883	heh	09:35
tgm4883	mine says	09:35
tgm4883	# generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!	09:35
tgm4883	but we are going to edit	09:35
foxbuntu	like I said	09:35
temba	COOLIO it works now	09:35
temba	:D	09:35
tgm4883	good	09:35
temba	added a resolv.conf with nameserver	09:35
foxbuntu	good deal	09:36
tgm4883	so now you should be able to apt-get update	09:36
temba	u think apt-get update will fix the tv prob i had ?	09:36
temba	ok	09:36
tgm4883	probably not	09:36
temba	and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?	09:36
tgm4883	but we need to apt-get update	09:36
tgm4883	then apt-get upgrade	09:36
tgm4883	no	09:36
temba	ok	09:36
temba	i do	09:36
tgm4883	no apt-get install ubuntu-desktop	09:36
tgm4883	unless you want everything that is installed by default in Ubuntu	09:37
temba	ok apt-get upgrade now	09:37
tgm4883	yes	09:37
temba	the flickerign tv out is not fixable ?	09:39
tgm4883	well, probably not with just an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade	09:39
tgm4883	but it should be fixable	09:39
temba	whu	09:51
temba	installs the upgrades	09:51
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temba	tgm4883 , updates installed	10:27
tgm4883	sweet, and you rebooted?	10:27
temba	what could this be, that i get only flickering on tv	10:27
temba	ya rebootet	10:27
tgm4883	describe the flickering?	10:27
tgm4883	is it only when playing back video?	10:27
temba	nope	10:28
temba	when i start pc screen is oke	10:28
temba	(bios and such messages)	10:28
temba	from the moment where the mythv desktop is loaded , screen only flicker	10:28
tgm4883	how do you connect it to the tv?	10:28
temba	vai s-vid from the gfx card	10:28
tgm4883	ok	10:29
tgm4883	what resolution	10:29
temba	i set 1280 x 1024 on install	10:30
tgm4883	ok	10:30
foxbuntu	thats too high for a TV	10:30
MnDBnDr	does the 20.2 package change the xorg.conf?	10:30
tgm4883	it may be that it is too high for svideo	10:31
temba	ah	10:31
foxbuntu	what refresh rate are you at on the TV?	10:31
MnDBnDr	I don't think so. That is too high for TV	10:31
tgm4883	as svideo can only really do about 576i pal and 480i ntsc	10:31
temba	so what screen reso i have to switch to ?	10:31
foxbuntu	MnDBnDr, 20.2 myth package?	10:32
temba	640 x 480 ?	10:32
tgm4883	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svideo	10:32
tgm4883	well 640x480	10:32
MnDBnDr	yeah	10:32
tgm4883	unless your doing widescreen	10:32
tgm4883	which i doubt	10:32
temba	where can i set this, there still no gnome desktop here	10:32
MnDBnDr	I don't think it does anything with xorg.conf	10:32
tgm4883	ok sec	10:32
tgm4883	!pastebin	10:32
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	10:32
MnDBnDr	,l	10:33
temba	ok i wait tgm4883	10:33
tgm4883	ok	10:33
foxbuntu	!pastebin \| tgm4883	10:34
ubotu	tgm4883: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	10:34
foxbuntu	:P	10:34
MnDBnDr	he needs a xorg.conf that have tv out via svideo enabled	10:34
tgm4883	temba, you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file	10:34
tgm4883	there is a section called Screen	10:34
tgm4883	mine looks like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35456/	10:34
tgm4883	well	10:34
tgm4883	actually wait a sec temba	10:34
MnDBnDr	CTRL+ALT+F2 will get you a command prompt	10:35
MnDBnDr	if you have no xwindows	10:35
tgm4883	look into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me if you have 1 or 2 screen sections	10:35
tgm4883	foxbuntu, i don't suppose you have ati?	10:36
temba	hmm cant	10:36
temba	i started a video	10:36
temba	now ESC dont work anymore after update	10:36
temba	wtf !	10:36
temba	cant cancel the vid	10:36
MnDBnDr	CTRL+ALT+F2	10:36
temba	no respond	10:36
MnDBnDr	hmmmm	10:37
tgm4883	ctrl+alt+backspace?	10:38
MnDBnDr	yeah restart x	10:38
temba	also no response	10:38
tgm4883	can you ssh into the machine?	10:38
temba	seems update fucked something	10:38
temba	mom gotta reboot	10:39
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temba	tgm4883	10:42
tgm4883	yes	10:42
temba	for what shall i search in xorg.conf	10:42
tgm4883	well we need to see if there are 2 screen sections	10:43
tgm4883	1 for your primary display and one for the output to the tv	10:43
tgm4883	what kind of tv?	10:44
temba	normal tb	10:45
temba	normal tv	10:45
temba	i connect from s-vid to scart	10:45
MnDBnDr	what video card do you have	10:45
tgm4883	see that would be a second problem	10:46
tgm4883	your tv is PAL?	10:46
temba	my SCREEN section is like yours, but on every depth is "1024 x xxx" " xxxx x xxx" "xxx x xx"	10:46
temba	there is for every depth 3 resolution	10:46
tgm4883	right	10:46
temba	i have a ATI RADEON 9250 here	10:46
tgm4883	what video card, and what country do you live in	10:46
temba	video card ? no only the gfx card radeon, country DE germany	10:48
tgm4883	ok	10:48
tgm4883	sec	10:48
MnDBnDr	there is a good how to on Gentoo's wiki	10:49
MnDBnDr	for ATI	10:49
MnDBnDr	http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out	10:49
tgm4883	well i don't believe that 640x480 will work for you	10:49
tgm4883	as i think germany is PAL	10:49
tgm4883	do you have 1 or 2 screens (including your TV) hooked up to your mythbox	10:50
MnDBnDr	I think 720x576 would do it for PAL	10:50
tgm4883	720x576 only works if it is widescreen	10:50
tgm4883	640x576 i believe would work though	10:51
MnDBnDr	oh yeah. you are correct	10:51
tgm4883	sec	10:51
temba	only tv was connected as i tested it ago	10:53
tgm4883	how do you plan on using it? with a tv and monitor attached or just a tv	10:53
temba	i planed to use only on tv	10:54
tgm4883	ok	10:55
tgm4883	MnDBnDr, actually I think you are right on the 720x576	10:55
tgm4883	temba, what you need to do then is remove the other resolutions in the screen section and in it's place, put in 720x576 so it looks like mine	10:56
MnDBnDr	I think 704x576 would work too.	10:56
tgm4883	yea	10:56
tgm4883	its either 720 or 704	10:56
tgm4883	you looking at wikipedia?	10:57
MnDBnDr	No	10:57
tgm4883	heh, i am	10:57
MnDBnDr	google groups	10:57
tgm4883	identifies a vertical resolution of 576 lines (usually with a horizontal resolution of 720 or 704 pixels)	10:57
tgm4883	^ talking about 576i	10:57
temba	okay put them all to 720 x 576	10:58
tgm4883	ok	10:58
MnDBnDr	got this from Cisco. With an aspect ratio of 1.33:1, 4 x 3 PAL has a standard resolution of 720 x 576 pixels	10:58
tgm4883	save the file as xorg.conf.new	10:58
superm1_	laga?	11:00
temba	tgm4883 umm saved as xorg.conf now,,,,,,,,,	11:01
tgm4883	ok	11:01
tgm4883	i suppose that will work, i was going to have you save your old file in case we needed to revert	11:01
temba	anyway gotta leave , hard tommorow, but if u like we continue tommorw	11:01
tgm4883	well do ctrl-alt-backspace and that should load the new settings	11:02
tgm4883	ok	11:02
Daviey	superm1_: what's the plan with the repo then?	11:03
superm1_	Daviey, i just got back.	11:04
Daviey	yah	11:04
tgm4883	superm1_, what is the length of support on Mythbuntu 7.10	11:04
superm1_	as soon as PPAs go live	11:04
superm1_	then we both need to clear the mirror	11:04
superm1_	and agree upon a regular update schedule	11:04
superm1_	i'll with apt-mirror it only updates changed files	11:04
Daviey	sorry, last statement didn't make sense	11:05
superm1_	when you apt-mirror a repo	11:05
superm1_	it only grabs new packages	11:05
superm1_	so we can frequently run apt-mirror in a cron	11:05
Daviey	yep	11:06
Daviey	daily should be nuff, would think	11:06
Daviey	also apt-mirror doesn't leave it in a mess mid-upgrade	11:06
Daviey	(apparently)	11:06
Daviey	So it won't break people's current apt-get's	11:07
superm1_	yea i guess daily would suffice	11:07
superm1_	did you work out yours so that it will always look like the structure on ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net?	11:07
Daviey	superm1_: can you scp me the key?	11:07
superm1_	Daviey, can you get a DCC?	11:07
superm1_	i'll send it that way	11:07
Daviey	erm	11:07
Daviey	possibly.. using irssi.. not sure what will happen	11:08
Daviey	try it.. possibly not the most secure way tho	11:08
Daviey	pgp encrypted email?	11:08
Daviey	or scp to my server?	11:08
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superm1_	Daviey, what's you GPG key	11:08
superm1_	i'll encrypt an archive	11:08
Daviey	cool	11:08
superm1_	Daviey, key?^	11:09
Alowishus	If I'm currently running Myth on straight-up Feisty, will moving to Mythbuntu be an option when it goes live (as opposed to dist-upgrading to Gutsy)?	11:10
Daviey	superm1_: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=davewalker%40ubuntu.com&op=index	11:10
tgm4883	Alowishus, well, Mythbuntu is based on gutsy	11:10
superm1_	Alowishus, when you go to gutsy, you can install the control centre	11:10
superm1_	and then activate any mythbuntu items through ti	11:10
Alowishus	so it's really just a superset of packages for Gutsy itself then, huh?	11:10
Alowishus	excellent	11:10
tgm4883	superm1_, i think he wanted to have mythbuntu on feisty	11:11
Alowishus	oh no I don't mind going to Gutsy	11:11
superm1_	Alowishus, assuming that we get all necessary changes in before the archive closes :)	11:11
tgm4883	ah ok	11:11
Alowishus	:D	11:11
Alowishus	I'm just coming from a Fedora/Mythdora background where it's expected that the "special" distribution of Mythdora is basically installed from scratch and not upgraded against any of the production Fedora sources	11:11
Alowishus	I'm happy to see how well integrated Mythbuntu is	11:12
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Daviey	Alowishus: early on we commited to try and get as much as possible into the offical ubuntu repo's	11:12
Alowishus	that's just smart ;)	11:13
superm1_	Alowishus, that's a big point that ircks me about these other mythtv distros that you have mythtv on the box and thats it, and you need to go through hoops to upgrade and such :)	11:13
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Alowishus	superm1_: exactly...	11:13
Daviey	mythbuntu distro still makes installation easier tho, or will do when released	11:13
Alowishus	I thought the Feisty install was wickedly easy... testament to good packaging :)	11:13
Daviey	yeah.. it shouldn't be this easy	11:14
Daviey	we need to make it harder	11:14
Alowishus	Definite props to superm1_ and others for your quick action on 20.2 and your exceptional communication on the status, including your posts to the Forum, your bug updates on Launchpad and the Mythbuntu website	11:14
Alowishus	Daviey: lol	11:14
Alowishus	Daviey: it'll seem like we're getting more for our money!	11:14
Alowishus	if it's hard to install it must be good software	11:15
superm1_	Daviey, should have gotten it. Never sent a GPG encrypted mail before. Hopefully it went through right	11:15
Daviey	superm1_: recieved	11:15
superm1_	Thanks Alowishus. :)	11:16
Daviey	superm1_: worked fine :)	11:16
Daviey	superm1_: can you tell me how to add it?	11:18
superm1_	Daviey, no.	11:18
Daviey	boo	11:18
superm1_	i just wiped the .gnupg directory on axel's box	11:18
superm1_	and put that there instead	11:18
Daviey	that'll do	11:18
Daviey	I've got a dedicated user 'mythbuntu'	11:19
Daviey	so, i'll scrap the dummy key	11:20
Daviey	superm1_: that should be done now	11:23
Daviey	i386 signed	11:23
superm1_	Daviey, add it as a repo locally to your box	11:23
superm1_	now	11:23
Daviey	yes sir	11:24
superm1_	and see if you get authentication problems	11:24
superm1_	or if it worked	11:24
Daviey	Hmm.. what should i install..	11:24
Daviey	something that doesn't have lots of depends	11:24
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superm1_	keescook, do i need to go through that same amount of trouble as previously SRU wise to upload a newer revision?	11:28
keescook	superm1_: no, I doubt it.	11:28
superm1_	keescook, because in #mythtv, there are 3 SD patches that need to be cherry picked in	11:28
superm1_	keescook, what should i do version wise though?	11:28
superm1_	since ~proposed1 already hit	11:29
keescook	superm1_: I would drop the ~proposed1	11:29
superm1_	and what if another ends up being needed?	11:29
keescook	and if further revisions are needed, just add a .1 (.7.04.1 .7.04.2 etc)	11:29
superm1_	ah okay	11:29
superm1_	like how security updates work	11:29
keescook	right	11:29
keescook	btw, I did the feisty update today, and everything still works. I haven't figured out how to verify that SD is working, though.	11:30
superm1_	well if you've still got guide data, then it worked	11:30
Daviey	keescook: drop listings, then mythfilldatabase?	11:30
superm1_	because it all gets translated over	11:31
keescook	Daviey: that wildly frightening. :)	11:31
keescook	superm1_: I do still have guide data. :)	11:31
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Daviey	Hmm.. somehow my UUID of my swap has changed :S	11:49
Daviey	superm1_: nope.. seems signing was incorrect	11:52
bdmurray	Daviey: really? I've seen some reports like that but don't have any idea how it happens.	11:55
superm1_	bdmurray, did you end up having to optimize your db?	11:57
superm1_	or determine what the deal was?	11:57
Daviey	bdmurray: naa just changed /etc/fstab to point to /dev/sdaX rather than the UUID	11:57
bdmurray	Daviey: right, but that is wrong I think. You shouldn't have to do that.	12:00
bdmurray	keescook might know better though	12:01
Daviey	bdmurray: that is correct; UUID shouldn't change unless you mod the partition	12:02
Daviey	but ahh well.. all is good now	12:02
bdmurray	Daviey: right, but I wonder what the root cause of the problem is because I have seen it more than 1 time	12:02
keescook	Daviey: very weird. use the new UUID in /etc/fstab just in case sda moves on you. :)	12:03
bdmurray	superm1_: in the machine information part of mythweb it still says "did not insert any new data into the Guide for 1 of 1 sources." I think I am supposed to be patient though.	12:03
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Daviey	superm1_: yah!!!	12:04
Daviey	seems to be working	12:04
superm1_	Daviey, what'd you have to do?	12:04
Daviey	i forgot to add the public key	12:04
Daviey	doh	12:04
bdmurray	That might throw other people off though too though.	12:04
Daviey	superm1_: maybe not..	12:05
superm1_	keescook, ugh. i pushed the patch to -proposed on edgy and feisty and i need to get approval by a distro manager' again :(	12:05
bdmurray	superm1_: my system says there is guide data until "2007-09-10 20:00" - yet after about 17:00 on 9/10 is No Data	12:06
superm1_	bdmurray, hopefully that sorts itself out tomorrow :)	12:07
bdmurray	Okay, I'll try to be more patient.	12:07
superm1_	Daviey, okay so it is supposed to be Release.asc in all cases then right?	12:09
Daviey	dunno	12:11
Daviey	It aint working.. i thought it was	12:11
superm1_	you just said it was?	12:11
Daviey	i thought it was.. but the package i tested it with was from universe	12:11
Daviey	gutted	12:11
superm1_	see falcon makes a few Release.gpg files	12:12
superm1_	./base-pegasus/dists/feisty/Release.gpg	12:12
superm1_	is one that i see	12:12
superm1_	and it appears that Release.gpg is just a signature file	12:13
superm1_	not a full out Release file with a signature at top and bottom	12:13
Daviey	where does .changes come from?	12:13
superm1_	there is no .changes	12:14
superm1_	on a repo	12:14
Daviey	i know.. but where would they come from?	12:14
superm1_	i've wondered that too	12:14
superm1_	but never investigated	12:14
Daviey	cause `debsign` might be the answer - but need .changes	12:15
superm1_	.changes are made during debuild	12:15
superm1_	for a package	12:15
superm1_	one of the steps of debuild makes them	12:15
Daviey	hmm	12:15
Daviey	why can't ppa sign?	12:16
superm1_	it is a planned feature	12:16
superm1_	but not implemented yet	12:16
superm1_	that's why i want us to keep the same structure as PPA	12:17
superm1_	so that when it is implemented	12:17
superm1_	we can just be mirrors for PPA	12:17
Daviey	what does PPA stand for anyway?	12:17
superm1_	Personal Package Archives	12:17
superm1_	they go live later today as just said in #launchpad	12:18
Daviey	great	12:19
superm1_	unless they have any last blockers, so at latest tomorrow	12:19
Daviey	So, what do you submit to get it there?	12:19
superm1_	Daviey, sudo gpg --output $BUILD/dists/breezy/Release.gpg -ba $BUILD/dists/breezy/Release	12:20
superm1_	from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization/Scripts	12:20
superm1_	that is how to make the GPG signed releases	12:20
superm1_	currently two need to be made	12:20
superm1_	one for feisty and one for gutsy	12:20
superm1_	at script runtime	12:20
Daviey	heh.. i was just looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization	12:20
bdmurray	superm1_: incidentally I found this in my logs	12:21
bdmurray	[mpeg2video @ 0xb71f32e8] invalid cbp at 3 27	12:21
bdmurray	[mpeg2video @ 0xb71f32e8] ac-tex damaged at 1 28	12:21
bdmurray	[mpeg2video @ 0xb71f32e8] mb incr damaged	12:21
superm1_	bdmurray, during a commflag i'd guess?	12:21
superm1_	or possibly hd playback	12:21
bdmurray	superm1_: during hd playback. I was thinking that might now be the cause of the audio blips I hear. Does that seem reasonable?	12:22
superm1_	bdmurray, that is caused by a file with some corruption, very common on digital streams	12:22
superm1_	especially OTA	12:22
superm1_	if you run an mpeg2->mpeg2 transcode on the file, it will clean up most of it	12:23
superm1_	that can most definitely be a cause of audio 'blips'	12:23
superm1_	are you currently OTA, or QAM?	12:23
bdmurray	QAM	12:23
bdmurray	mplayer seems to play it fine though	12:24
superm1_	myth is a bit more finicky on these sorts of things, i've noticed that too	12:25
superm1_	which is weird since they both use ffmpeg....	12:25
bdmurray	How would I go about doing the transcode?	12:30
superm1_	from the frontend, choose the recording, and just queue up a transcode with the default settings	12:31
superm1_	by hitting right and picking transcode	12:31
superm1_	or the menu key	12:31
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