[01:16] <Daviey> superm1: did you get hold of bendailey?
[01:16] <superm1> Daviey, he was in yesterday
[01:16] <superm1> i also found out how much we've been averaging i month from polorix.net
[01:16] <Daviey> yesterday... hmm - since i last spoke with you?
[01:16] <superm1> ~50gb
[01:16] <Daviey> dang timezones
[01:17] <Daviey> f' me!
[01:17] <superm1> well yesterday my time
[01:17] <superm1> (the only time that matters of course)
[01:17] <superm1> :)
[01:17] <Daviey> UTC + 1 ftw
[01:18] <superm1> well anyhow.
[01:18] <superm1> i got somethign to work on atrpms
[01:18] <superm1> with i think a signed release
[01:18] <Daviey> Mind you... when the mirrors and beta's stop coming out it should ease of a ickle
[01:19] <superm1> i have the pegasus gpg key
[01:19] <Daviey> yah!
[01:19] <Daviey> where was it?
[01:19] <superm1> i was smart enough to back it up to ~/.gnupg-mythbuntu :)
[01:19] <Daviey> :)
[01:19] <Daviey> If you sign them on the master server, i shouldn't need to aswell - just mirror, right?
[01:19] <superm1> exactly
[01:19] <Daviey> winner
[01:20] <Daviey> did you sort out a subdomain with ben?
[01:20] <superm1> let me try right now and make sure the signing worked then
[01:20] <superm1> i'm not sure if i signed the right Release files
[01:21] <superm1> there were two that i found that seemed like they should
[01:23] <superm1> na signing dind't work
[01:23] <superm1> i still dont know what to sign then
[02:40] <jumpkick> http://www.mythbuntu.org/support - typo "support support"
[02:41] <jumpkick> duplicate h1 headers
[03:13] <frank23> I was looking at the Mythbuntu features... Is it capable of setting up a mythtv backend/frontend/desktop (with kubuntu as desktop) with an nvidia card and separating the mythtv frontend to TV-Out and showing KDE on the monitor?
[03:13] <superm1> frank23, at this point, setting up a desktop isn't integrated into the installer
[03:13] <frank23> All with the configuration menus
[03:13] <superm1> its possible to do
[03:14] <frank23> I know how to do it by hand. I was just wondering since the installer lets you install a desktop and a frontend
[03:14] <superm1> Well not in installer
[03:14] <superm1> in the control centre
[03:14] <frank23> ok
[03:15] <superm1> that is something i'd like to explore for the future though
[03:15] <superm1> more advanced setups like that
[03:15] <frank23> ok
[03:16] <frank23> It already seems to offer painless mythtv backend and frontend setups. I guess that's the main thing for a mythtv distro
[03:16] <superm1> yea
[03:16] <superm1> with the control centre, you can easily add the backend and frontend roles too
[03:16] <superm1> to an existing desktop
[03:16] <superm1> through a full out gui
[03:17] <frank23> ok. is the control centre a separate package you could just install on a basic ubuntu/kubuntu install?
[03:17] <superm1> yes
[03:18] <superm1> i just submitted it to gutsy a few days ago
[03:18] <superm1> you can see some screenshots on mythbuntu.org
[03:18] <superm1> of what it can do
[03:18] <frank23> I see :)   Yeah that is what I was looking at (the screenshots)
[03:18] <superm1> yea since we redid the site, i lost all the other screenshots and didn't take time to redo them
[03:19] <superm1> but since i just wrote that recently, i did screenshots for it
[03:19] <frank23> superm1: are there others that help you with mythbuntu? I know you also did an awful lot of work on the wiki
[03:20] <superm1> yea the other folks in here help out
[03:20] <superm1> but yea, i do put an awful lot of free time towards this project :)
[03:21] <frank23> In gutsy will the control centre be a dependancy of mythtv?
[03:21] <superm1> No.
[03:21] <frank23> Thanks alot on behalf of all mythtv ubuntu users!
[03:21] <superm1> it will be the preferred way to install things though
[03:21] <superm1> :)
[03:21] <superm1> since you can see it tries to touch upon configuring a bunch of other mythtv related items
[03:22] <frank23> yeah... samba, nfs and everything
[03:22] <superm1> in its current rendition, it replaces samba and nfs configuration (and backs up the old one), but in a later release, i'll make it act a little more cleanly
[03:22] <frank23> can you setup a mythweb password with the control centre?
[03:23] <frank23> ok
[03:23] <superm1> not at this point, but another thing i wanted to touch upon :)
[03:23] <superm1> you can via debconf though
[03:23] <superm1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb
[03:23] <frank23> oh yeah?
[03:23] <frank23> nice
[03:23] <superm1> yea thank laga for that one
[03:23] <superm1> he got out a bunch of the code on it
[03:24] <frank23> cool
[03:24] <frank23> were you able to use stuff that knoppmyth created as well?
[03:24] <superm1> which stuff?
[03:25] <frank23> I have no idea.... I just know that it's one of the popular mythtv distributions.
[03:25] <superm1> honestly never booted it up
[03:25] <superm1> i downloaded a mythdora disk, but it never worked in my virtual machine
[03:25] <superm1> always froze the vm up
[03:25] <frank23> Oh heh, me neither
[03:26] <superm1> some day i probably should set up a box to compare us to them
[03:26] <superm1> and find out what they've got the edge on us over
[03:27] <frank23> Do you how to setup a myth frontend (or something equivalent) on windows?
[03:28] <superm1> don't even have a windows box in my appt
[03:28] <superm1> so nope
[03:28] <frank23> ok
[03:30] <frank23> superm1: well thanks for answering my questions. Maybe I'll try testing mythbuntu on my spare partition sometime.
[03:30] <superm1> frank23, well alpha4 will be this week
[03:30] <superm1> so give that a spin if anything :)
[03:30] <frank23> ok. Where should I report problems if any?
[03:30] <superm1> on launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[03:30] <superm1> or in here
[03:32] <frank23> ok
[03:32] <frank23> superm1: just out of curiosity, what video capture card(s) do you use?
[03:33] <superm1> pvr-500, air2pc hd5000, silicon dust hdhomerun, pvr-350, pvr-250mce
[03:34] <frank23> I have 2 pvr-150, I had a hard time getting them to work in dapper but no problems at all in feisty
[03:35] <superm1> i had firewire at 2 points also, but not currently
[03:35] <superm1> yea the goal is to make it out of the box for most cards supported
[03:36] <frank23> great
[03:40] <superm1> ivtv is in the upstream kernel now too, so for most people even in other distros things should be a lot easier
[03:41] <rhpot1991> anyone update to SD yet?
[03:41] <superm1> rhpot1991, i have
[03:42] <frank23> yeah, I know. much less annoying after kernel upgrades. I still have to rebuild lirc modules everytime though.
[03:42] <rhpot1991> any words of wisdom, anything I should know?
[03:42] <superm1> frank23, that's fixed in gutsy
[03:42] <superm1> rhpot1991, if you have any digital channels, make sure your call signs are set right
[03:42] <frank23> superm1: even better!
[03:42] <superm1> rhpot1991, and channel numbers
[03:42] <rhpot1991> just regular cable for me
[03:42] <superm1> then you should have smooth saliing
[03:43] <superm1> 0.20.2 for feisty is in feisty-proposed now rhpot1991
[03:44] <rhpot1991> apt got them for me not sure where from though
[03:44] <rhpot1991> I have the weekly mythbuntu builds in my apt now
[03:44] <superm1> rhpot1991, yes i added to those today too
[03:45] <rhpot1991> looks like its from them
[03:45] <rhpot1991> grrrr, mythfrontend still wont take itself out of my updates
[03:51] <superm1> you tried to remove that package and reinstall?
[03:51] <rhpot1991> yep
[03:51] <rhpot1991> did a complete remove from synaptec
[03:51] <rhpot1991> dpkg --purged it
[03:51] <rhpot1991> nothing
[03:52] <rhpot1991> schedules direct seems to indicate I am under a trial, will my grab work now or do I need to pay first?
[03:53] <superm1> it works for 7 days
[03:53] <superm1> i'm still on my trial
[04:04] <superm1> bdmurray, keescook they both cleared the buildds
[04:04] <superm1> if you guys want to give them a spin
[04:04] <superm1> please file comments in the bugs, including "Works for me"
[04:05] <rhpot1991> I always seem to have a hard time getting my channel names to stick instead of "adding channel 2"
[04:09] <superm1> what do you mean?
[04:09] <rhpot1991> when I scan for channels
[04:10] <rhpot1991> I end up losing the channel names and they end up coming up as "Adding Channel 2" "Adding Channel 3" and so on
[04:10] <rhpot1991> not sure what the heck I do, but I do it every time I am in mythtv-setup
[04:10] <rhpot1991> darn, broke my channel icons too
[04:11] <superm1> hm odd.
[04:14] <MythbuntuGuest44> question for anyone, just did a fresh install of Mythbuntu, trying to get it updated and apt is going to autoremove all of the myth packages, what gives?
[04:14] <rhpot1991> has to be something I do cause I remember having a problem with it before and schedulesdirect is listing my channel names
[04:14] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest44, that is fixed in this weeks upcoming alpha
[04:14] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest44, it snuck up right after alpha 3's release
[04:15] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest44, if you could hold off a few days, the next alpha will have mythtv 0.20.2, that fixed, and a whole slew of other things
[04:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> superm1: hmmm well I guess, the box hasn't been working for a week any ways :-D
[04:16] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest44, watch the RSS feed on mythbuntu.org :) Thanks
[04:18] <rhpot1991> superm1: I forgot to mention, when upgrading to the weekly build packages I did a dist-upgrade, not that it should effect anything
[04:19] <superm1> na it shouldn't
[04:19] <rhpot1991> it just wanted to replace mythtv.20-dev with mythtv.20 or something along those lines
[04:20] <tgm4883_laptop> people are already using the website client
[04:20] <tgm4883_laptop> nice
[04:20] <rhpot1991> now I have done it, scanning for channels is crashing my box
[04:30] <keescook> superm1: sweet, thanks -- good email too.  I will get it checked out, but I might be a bit delayed -- I have to fix my mother-in-law's machine; her drive failed.
[04:30] <superm1> ouch keescook
[04:30] <superm1> keescook, hopefully some other motu will speak up and test now :)
[04:35] <keescook> bdmurray, myself, and bryce will all be testing it in sort order, have no fear.  ;)
[04:40] <rhpot1991> mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates: fixed my channel problem
[04:45] <MythbuntuGuest60> superm1: sorry about that, wireless went on the fritz.  So in a few days a new version will be out?
[04:52] <rhpot1991> do I even want ubuntu-mythtv-frontend installed?
[04:52] <rhpot1991> when I have mythtv-frontend?
[04:54] <tgm4883_laptop> depends
[04:55] <rhpot1991> its the meta package, no reason not to be using it
[04:56] <rhpot1991> hmmmm removed the weekly builds repo and it stoped asking me to upgrade that package
[04:57] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, it should setup auto login and such
[04:57] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: ya it works good and all, but the sytem wont stop updating the package
[05:11] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, how goes it?
[05:12] <tgm4883_laptop> it's good foxbuntu
[05:14] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, good deal
[05:15] <foxbuntu> want to re-write the GTK theme for me? since I am feeling lazy
[05:17] <tgm4883_laptop> can't right now, heading out for ice cream, we have family in town right now
[05:20] <foxbuntu> ah
[05:20] <foxbuntu> well have fun then
[05:30] <rhpot1991> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35338/
[05:30] <rhpot1991> seems ok, right?
[05:31] <rhpot1991> thats from /var/log/dpkg.log btw
[05:32] <rhpot1991> updated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35339/
[05:37] <rhpot1991> superm1_: this look ok to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35339/
[05:37] <superm1_> rhpot1991, looks right to me
[05:38] <rhpot1991> well I'm stumped
[05:38] <superm1_> i'm really not sure what can be causing your oddities with it
[05:38] <superm1_> doesn't make sense to me
[05:38] <rhpot1991> ya its just that package
[05:38] <rhpot1991> if I go into synaptec and choose properties of it then view versions
[05:38] <rhpot1991> I see the same version listed twice
[05:39] <rhpot1991> once with "(feisty)" following it and once with "(now)" following it
[05:40] <rhpot1991> when I remove the weekly build repo, it stops wanting to update it
[05:40] <rhpot1991> all the rest of the myth package just have the "(fiesty)" version
[05:43] <rhpot1991> just some other background info: this is happening on 2 boxes here, both had fully working mythtv installs on ubuntu feisty before I added the weekly build repos, and neither have mythbuntu installed
[05:44] <superm1_> woah that's particularly odd.
[05:44] <superm1_> considering my frontend has that same package installed
[05:44] <superm1_> and no issues with it
[05:44] <rhpot1991> only thing I can think of that I did obscure, is that I installed mythweather revamp from source long ago
[05:45] <rhpot1991> might have some junk hanging around from that, but I don't see how it should matter
[05:45] <CBiLL> will Mythbuntu support UIRT USB?
[05:45] <superm1_> CBiLL, what module is needed or it?
[05:45] <superm1_> you know off hand?
[05:46] <CBiLL> lirc is one
[05:46] <superm1_> which lirc module though
[05:46] <CBiLL> and 8.2 or above support it
[05:46] <CBiLL> let me get that info sec
[05:47] <CBiLL> http://65.36.202.170/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5584&highlight=lirc&sid=436b32a7df58bffbee73550b6f960175
[05:47] <CBiLL> usb_uirt_raw
[05:47] <tgm4883_laptop> *cough* imbrandon *cough*
[05:47] <superm1_> tgm4883_laptop, yea i msged him
[05:47] <superm1_> no response
[05:48] <superm1_> CBiLL, yes that should be supported since it looks to not be a kernel module
[05:48] <superm1_> but rather shows up as directly by lircd
[05:48] <superm1_> you will probably need to modify /etc/lirc/hardware.conf to point to your device
[05:48] <CBiLL> yeah MythDora said same thing and couldn't get it working 8-/
[05:48] <foxbuntu> superm1, can you save me from GTK2 Hell?
[05:48] <superm1_> but that should be it
[05:48] <CBiLL> but I should be able to do a mode2
[05:48] <CBiLL> and aim any remote to it right
[05:48] <CBiLL> to see if it pick up the ir
[05:49] <superm1_> CBiLL, well in theory yes
[05:49] <CBiLL> but it doesn't =/
[05:49] <superm1_> i dont know if perhaps only certain remotes work with it
[05:49] <superm1_> i know that for the hauppaugge ir sensors, you can only use hauppaugge remotes
[05:49] <CBiLL> works perfect in Windows XP hehe but I don't want Windows =/
[05:49] <superm1_> they dont have a spectrum to see anything else
[05:49] <CBiLL> UIRT use any remotes
[05:49] <CBiLL> I got one that support both 50mhz and 55mhz
[05:50] <superm1_> ah okay
[05:50] <CBiLL> http://www.usbuirt.com/overview.htm
[05:50] <superm1_> CBiLL, do you have a gutsy install right now?
[05:50] <superm1_> or a mythbuntu install?
[05:50] <CBiLL> nope just download it now
[05:50] <CBiLL> getting ready to burn it on cd
[05:50] <CBiLL> and pop it in
[05:50] <rhpot1991> CBiLL have you tried running 'irw' and aiming a device at it to see if anything is happening?
[05:51] <CBiLL> I tried in MythDora yeah
[05:51] <CBiLL> nothing
[05:51] <CBiLL> I have nother usb the SnapStream one and it works
[05:51] <rhpot1991> lirc can have a few points of failure if you don't have configs set up correctly
[05:51] <rhpot1991> though I only have worked with hauppauge stuff
[05:51] <CBiLL> but I needed this UIRT working too to tranmit to my cable box to change the channel on it
[05:52] <CBiLL> can lirc handle more than 1 usb tranmitter and receiver?
[05:52] <rhpot1991> superm1_: do you have feisty or gusty installed?
[05:52] <superm1_> rhpot1991, both
[05:52] <superm1_> in multiple areas
[05:52] <rhpot1991> ok hmmm
[05:52] <CBiLL> I downloaded feisty .. is that latest alpha?
[05:52] <CBiLL> mythbuntu-7.10~070801-i386
[05:52] <rhpot1991> feisty is stable
[05:52] <superm1_> CBiLL, alpha3 is the latest, but alpha4 will be coming out later this week
[05:52] <rhpot1991> 7.10 is gusty
[05:52] <rhpot1991> right?
[05:52] <superm1_> yes
[05:53] <CBiLL> gusty is the alpha?
[05:53] <superm1_> Yes
[05:53] <foxbuntu> superm1_, when are you planning on building Alpha 4?
[05:53] <CBiLL> doing this one then! I like living on bleeding edge!
[05:53] <superm1_> foxbuntu, all i have left afaik is a lirc change
[05:53] <superm1_> to add udev support
[05:53] <superm1_> and a fix for lirc_serial
[05:53] <superm1_> so probably in a day or two
[05:53] <superm1_> and need a day or two to test it
[05:53] <superm1_> before announce
[05:53] <CBiLL> can lirc accept more than 1 usb tranmitter and reciver plugged in?
[05:54] <superm1_> yes but not easily in its current packaged form
[05:55] <foxbuntu> superm1_, ok, I am working hard on a rebuild of the GTK garbage to get the colors to look right and be usable
[05:55] <superm1_> okay foxbuntu hopefully you can get it in time :)
[05:56] <foxbuntu> superm1_, I hope so to, but this really became a bigger deal than I though
[05:56] <foxbuntu> thought*
[05:58] <foxbuntu> well I just made some good progress...new butttons that are much easier to read
[06:00] <CBiLL> another important feature to me is Closed Caption or TeleText as euro calls it
[06:00] <superm1_> CBiLL, depending on your tuner that may or may not work
[06:00] <CBiLL> it works
[06:00] <CBiLL> good too
[06:00] <CBiLL> in MythDora .. got a PVR500
[06:01] <CBiLL> there is one feature I hope to see in MythTV one day is to write the CC in mpeg file as open caption .. ie write word directly on top of the video itself
[06:02] <CBiLL> like those movie where folks speak china but words are displayed below
[06:05] <CBiLL> 66% iso burned so far .. (this is done on an old old window computer with old cd-r player)
[06:05] <CBiLL> hehe
[06:05] <CBiLL> the main cpu is tied up as mythdora atm
[06:08] <CBiLL> rebooting .. goodbye MythDora Hello Gusty!
[06:10] <CBiLL> nice install gui btw
[06:13] <CBiLL> I am at the part where I choose a remote
[06:13] <CBiLL> does it have SnapStream Firefly remote?
[06:14] <superm1_> brb sorry
[06:14] <foxbuntu> superm1_, take a look and see what you have to say about it so far
[06:14] <foxbuntu> http://imagebin.org/10115
[06:15] <foxbuntu> CBiLL, I don't believe that remote is supported
[06:15] <CBiLL> dang
[06:15] <CBiLL> can be added later then?
[06:16] <foxbuntu> Mythbuntu currently only has support for the remotes supported upstream by Lirc
[06:16] <CBiLL> snapstream is supported in MythDora on lirc
[06:16] <CBiLL> right out of box
[06:16] <foxbuntu> the remote?
[06:17] <CBiLL> yes
[06:17] <CBiLL> and the usb tranmitter/reciver that come with it
[06:17] <CBiLL> well i got the conf for it
[06:17] <CBiLL> so I should just plop it in then?
[06:20] <CBiLL> very nice remote btw
[06:20] <CBiLL> RF signal
[06:20] <CBiLL> no need to aim
[06:20] <foxbuntu> I use a universal RF that I trained off my base remote from the PVR150
[06:21] <foxbuntu> um..send me the config @ nickj.fox@gmail.com
[06:21] <CBiLL> for the snapstream?
[06:21] <foxbuntu> yea
[06:21] <CBiLL> ok sec need to reboot back into Mytdora and get it
[06:21] <foxbuntu> and I will try to add it to my list of to-do
[06:21] <foxbuntu> and build support for it
[06:21] <CBiLL> cool
[06:22] <CBiLL> it come with a usb RF Tx/Rx
[06:22] <foxbuntu> nice
[06:22] <CBiLL> it very nice remote
[06:22] <CBiLL> perfect for mythtv
[06:22] <rhpot1991> I have heard good things about it
[06:23] <CBiLL> http://www.snapstream.com/products/firefly/
[06:23] <rhpot1991> I just use a hauppauge remote for my main box, and an all for one programed to work as a hauppauge for my other frontend
[06:23] <foxbuntu> My universal is nice too
[06:23] <foxbuntu> works well with my mythbox
[06:24] <CBiLL> problem I am having is that I got the uirt to transmit to my cable box but I can't seem to get both firefly usb tx/rx and uirt tx/rx to work with same lirc  heck I can't get uirt working yet
[06:24] <superm1_> okay i'm back
[06:24] <superm1_> so what was questions now?
[06:24] <superm1_> snapstream should be listed in the installer i believe
[06:24] <CBiLL> none for me yet 8-P
[06:24] <CBiLL> oh
[06:24] <CBiLL> didn't see it
[06:24] <foxbuntu> http://imagebin.org/10115
[06:24] <foxbuntu> superm1_, take a look
[06:24] <CBiLL> hrmm let me reboote it when I get that config out
[06:24] <CBiLL> for foxbuntu
[06:24] <foxbuntu> CBiLL, thanks
[06:25] <superm1_> foxbuntu, i dont see any gtk dialogs there
[06:25] <rhpot1991> superm1_ are you using feisty_proposed on your feisty box(es)?
[06:25] <foxbuntu> superm1_, I am going to add the Snapstream buttons and config into the lirc gen.
[06:25] <superm1_> rhpot1991, i'm using the weekly builds
[06:25] <superm1_> feisty proposed just opened up today :)
[06:25] <foxbuntu> superm1_, notice the buttons
[06:25] <rhpot1991> I just completly removed all mythtv packages and purged them, started to install fresh and I am still getting it constantly wanting to upgrade
[06:25] <superm1_> i tested feisty proposed in my virtual machine
[06:25] <CBiLL> hey do you want the whole mythdora conf for all the remote they support zipped up?
[06:25] <rhpot1991> well for the rest of the system
[06:25] <foxbuntu> I will get you better sreens in a min
[06:25] <rhpot1991> thats about the only ubuntu repo I don't have turned on
[06:26] <rhpot1991> this is drive me crazy, it makes absolutely no sense
[06:26] <superm1_> CBiLL, ah it would appear that upstream lirc doesn't have a config listed in their lirc hardware database
[06:26] <superm1_> i was thinking streamzap
[06:26] <CBiLL> yeah I saw that
[06:27] <CBiLL> but it's snapstream =/
[06:27] <superm1_> but you use the USB UIRT Receiver
[06:27] <superm1_> do you not?
[06:27] <CBiLL> yes for tranmitting to the cable box to change channels
[06:27] <foxbuntu> superm1_, we can add that config to our DB can't we and submit an upstream patch with it in there?
[06:28] <CBiLL> snapstream to control mythtv
[06:28] <superm1_> CBiLL, what kernel module does snapstream use?
[06:28] <CBiLL> UIRT is not just receiver
[06:28] <CBiLL> superm1_ that what I am doing right now .. looking in lirc conf doesn't seem to use any module
[06:28] <superm1_> okay well what driver does lircd use then?
[06:29] <CBiLL> I don't know about drivers fully yet but it doesn't seem to be using any
[06:29] <superm1_> well lirc has support for native "drivers" that dont need kernel modules
[06:30] <superm1_> or for devices that need to use a kernel module too
[06:30] <CBiLL> would it be in lirc.conf?
[06:32] <superm1_> i dont know anything about mythdora's config files
[06:32] <superm1_> so i couldnt tell you
[06:39] <CBiLL> email sent foxbuntu
[06:39] <foxbuntu> thanks CBiLL
[06:39] <CBiLL> zipped up all the supported remote conf file
[06:40] <CBiLL> the file are named based on remote it supported and basically you rename it to lirc.conf I think and put it in /etc/
[06:40] <CBiLL> for whatever remote you want to support
[06:40] <CBiLL> but trying to determine how it support the usb device that come with snapstream
[06:41] <CBiLL> I think lirc latest driver support it out of box as well too
[06:41] <superm1_> CBiLL, you can see what kernel modules are used via lsmod
[06:41] <superm1_> typically lirc_*
[06:41] <CBiLL> ok
[06:41] <CBiLL> lirc_atiusb
[06:41] <CBiLL> lirc_dev
[06:42] <CBiLL> that it
[06:42] <CBiLL> wonder if it the atiusb that support the snapstream
[06:43] <superm1_> well try it
[06:43] <CBiLL> will Mythbuntu let me recomplie lirc if I had to?
[06:43] <superm1_> CBiLL, the lirc_atiusb module is shipped
[06:44] <superm1_> you shouldn't need to
[06:44] <CBiLL> ok cool
[06:44] <CBiLL> so just slap in the right /etc/lirc.conf and it should work hopefully then
[06:44] <CBiLL> so what do I pick at the remote part when it ask me which remote to support? choose no remote?
[06:45] <superm1_> CBiLL, choose the ati remote
[06:45] <CBiLL> ok
[06:45] <superm1_> and it will load the atiusb module
[06:45] <superm1_> you can reconfigure remotes at any time with sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc
[06:46] <superm1_> or you can overwite the chosen lircd.conf by dropping it in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[06:46] <CBiLL> I will be new to sudo but I am a fast learner thou
[06:49] (CBiLL/#ubuntu-mythtv) there 2 ATI to choose from
[06:50] <CBiLL> the first one seem to have the same driver choosen by MythDora as well too
[06:52] <CBiLL> hrmm for PVR 500 I choose Hauppauge PBR-XXX Series Card and set it to 2 tuners and choose the second one again same string?
[06:53] <CBiLL> hrmm 2 of superm1 hehe
[06:54] <superm1> my laptop froze when switching displays when i docked
[06:54] <superm1> so the other one isn't me
[06:54] <superm1> its a ghost
[06:54] <CBiLL> ah
[06:54] <CBiLL> hrmm for PVR 500 I choose Hauppauge PBR-XXX Series Card and set it to 2 tuners and choose the second one again same string?
[06:54] <superm1> don't worry about tuner selection
[06:54] <CBiLL> ok
[06:54] <CBiLL> well it choosen
[06:54] <superm1> in that alpha it doesnt do anything
[06:54] <superm1> the firmware finder backend wasnt done
[06:54] <CBiLL> alright
[06:55] <CBiLL> it formatting partitons now
[06:55] <CBiLL> I choose to let it do it for me using the entire disk
[06:56] <CBiLL> graphic could use some work and I would sear clear from Windows 3.1 looks =P
[06:57] <superm1> you mean the GTK theme?
[06:57] <superm1> or you mean the mythbuntu logo?
[06:57] <CBiLL> the default installer theme
[06:57] <superm1> yea that's what foxbuntu is working on
[06:57] <CBiLL> "installing system"
[06:58] <CBiLL> ah cool
[06:58] <foxbuntu> CBiLL, you can come join in on my GTK Hell if you like :)
[06:58] <CBiLL> 8-)
[07:00] <CBiLL> I am struggling between MythTV and SageTv .. both so good and sweet but need UIRT working in MythTV thou
[07:00] <CBiLL> SageTV have no problem handing more than one STB using UIRT and still allow firefire remote to be used
[07:01] <CBiLL> an error have occured while installing package
[07:01] <CBiLL> failed to fetch http://mirror.cs.umm.ed.ubu**** (very long string) ****404 Not Found
[07:02] <superm1> CBiLL, oh - can you do it without network cable plugged in
[07:02] <superm1> i forgot to warn you about that
[07:02] <CBiLL> oh
[07:02] <CBiLL> shoot I cancelled it and it still going
[07:02] <CBiLL> should I start over?
[07:02] <superm1> well your nvidia driver might not be setup
[07:02] <superm1> that is all
[07:02] <superm1> let it keep goign
[07:02] <CBiLL> ok restarting
[07:02] <superm1> and see how it comes along
[07:02] <CBiLL> ok
[07:02] <CBiLL> letting it keep going
[07:02] <superm1> its because a newer version was released of the kernel modules
[07:03] <superm1> since this disk was made
[07:03] <CBiLL> lauching mythtv setup
[07:03] <superm1> stuff like that shouldn't continue to happen with future
[07:04] <CBiLL> yeah s-video is all screw up
[07:04] <CBiLL> but still can see it fine on my computer monitor
[07:05] <superm1> did the Nvidia logo pop up?
[07:06] <superm1> upon boot?
[07:06] <superm1> or was it nvidia?
[07:06] <CBiLL> it have not rebooted yet
[07:06] <CBiLL> I am at the stage where I set up Mythtv
[07:06] <CBiLL> I assume it going to reboot after that?
[07:07] <CBiLL> it doing datadirect now
[07:07] <superm1> well we'll see what happens after reboot :)
[07:07] <CBiLL> yeah
[07:07] <superm1> i'm not sure regarding that missing package since it couldnt get to mirror.cs.umn.edu
[07:07] <CBiLL> it going to ask me to reboot when I click finished on installer right?
[07:08] <superm1> right
[07:08] <CBiLL> I seem to be locked up
[07:08] <CBiLL> at the part were it try to get datadirect
[07:08] <CBiLL> stuck at 50%
[07:08] <CBiLL> oh there
[07:08] <CBiLL> we go
[07:11] <CBiLL> it running fillmythdatabase .. brb getting a drinnk
[07:11] <rhpot1991> thank god mythtv stores all its info in mysql
[07:13] <CBiLL> I think the right path is to allow installer run all the way then reboot and then offer to setup mythtv
[07:14] <CBiLL> it look kinda odd setting up mythtv before a reboot of a new os install
[07:15] <superm1> well the idea was that you do it on a normal monitor
[07:15] <superm1> whereas when you reboot you might have tvout setup
[07:15] <superm1> or something to that effect
[07:16] <CBiLL> that a good point
[07:16] <CBiLL> like what I am experincing right now
[07:16] <rhpot1991> learn to love vnc CBiLL
[07:17] <CBiLL> hey I just want a nice working PVR
[07:17] <CBiLL> I am currently using RelayTV 5040 very very nice pvr but take forever to transfer file from replaytv to computers
[07:17] <rhpot1991> nothing beats when you boot your pvr and need keyboard interaction and your standing there with nothing but a remote
[07:17] <CBiLL> 100mbit I think
[07:21] <CBiLL> DirectData so boring and a long wait hehehe
[07:22] <rhpot1991> you know that datadirect is going away in a bit right?
[07:22] <CBiLL> yes
[07:22] <CBiLL> I know
[07:22] <rhpot1991> alright
[07:22] <CBiLL> there a pay version coming up
[07:22] <CBiLL> 5 a month was it
[07:22] <rhpot1991> www.schedulesdirect.org
[07:22] <CBiLL> yeah
[07:22] <CBiLL> that the place
[07:22] <rhpot1991> initial is $15 for 3 months
[07:23] <rhpot1991> they are hoping to get it to $15 a year I think
[07:23] <CBiLL> 20 a year
[07:23] <CBiLL> yeah
[07:23] <CBiLL> would be worth every pennies
[07:23] <foxbuntu> superm1, here is one with the working FF
[07:23] <foxbuntu> http://imagebin.org/10116
[07:23] <CBiLL> if MythTV works out for me
[07:23] <rhpot1991> I just converted to it earlier, went well other than me being and idiot and screwing up my channel names
[07:23] <CBiLL> you subbed?
[07:23] <CBiLL> so it open to be sub now?
[07:23] <CBiLL> ok it done
[07:23] <CBiLL> switching my tv to svideo and clicking Finish
[07:24] <rhpot1991> I'm working on the trial now
[07:24] <rhpot1991> they give you a 7 day trial
[07:24] <CBiLL> oh cool
[07:24] <rhpot1991> as soon as I see that its working they get some cash
[07:24] <CBiLL> is it working yet?
[07:25] <rhpot1991> well it did today
[07:25] <CBiLL> until you messed it up?
[07:25] <rhpot1991> I'd like to be more convinced than that though
[07:25] <rhpot1991> gonna wait a few days to make sure its all running smooth
[07:25] <CBiLL> ok tv booting up
[07:25] <foxbuntu> superm1, and here is one with menus
[07:25] <foxbuntu> http://imagebin.org/10117
[07:25] <CBiLL> can see the boot up bios on tv
[07:25] <CBiLL> working nice on TV
[07:26] <CBiLL> nice curved box
[07:26] <CBiLL> but color well look kinda of gloomy and gothic =P
[07:26] <rhpot1991> grey?
[07:26] <CBiLL> failed to start X server
[07:26] <superm1> foxbuntu, looking better
[07:26] <CBiLL> yeah grey
[07:27] <foxbuntu> CBiLL, that grey is going away
[07:27] <CBiLL> (your graphical interface)
[07:27] <superm1> CBiLL, probably because the nvidia driver wasn't installed
[07:27] <CBiLL> yeah
[07:27] <CBiLL> so it is something I can install now?
[07:27] <CBiLL> or redo the whole thing again?
[07:27] <foxbuntu> superm1, any thoughts?
[07:27] <superm1> well its probably easier to redo the whole thing, because that deb isn't on umn.edu anymore
[07:28] <foxbuntu> or should I commit and you can try it in Ubi. and see what you think
[07:28] <CBiLL> ok so unplug it from network then?
[07:28] <superm1> foxbuntu, well you can just install ubiquity
[07:28] <superm1> its in apt
[07:28] <rhpot1991> why not just change his source?
[07:28] <superm1> yea
[07:28] <rhpot1991> and get the deb?
[07:28] <foxbuntu> oh
[07:28] <superm1> rhpot1991, its not available anywhere anymore
[07:28] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[07:28] <superm1> its been removed since a newer version is out
[07:28] <superm1> but its on the CD
[07:28] <rhpot1991> sorry didn't understand what was happening
[07:28] <CBiLL> ok popping in cd and unplugging it from network
[07:28] <superm1> foxbuntu, purlple ish?
[07:28] <rhpot1991> can't he dpkg from the cd then?
[07:29] <superm1> CBiLL, either that or wait until alpha4 this week
[07:29] <CBiLL> no I enjoy doing this
[07:29] <CBiLL> rebooting it
[07:29] <foxbuntu> superm1, yeah, it kinda turned out that way due to the color blending issues I have been dealing with
[07:29] <CBiLL> I have nothing else to do
[07:29] <CBiLL> would like to check this remote for you too
[07:30] <foxbuntu> white looks like crap and gray makes it hard to read
[07:30] <CBiLL> to see how it turn out and maybe you can add it in alpha 4
[07:30] <superm1> CBiLL, yea i have one more lirc commit i want to do this week
[07:30] <superm1> before alpha4
[07:30] <superm1> so if that remote needs somethign changed
[07:31] <foxbuntu> superm1, how do I put the theme into ubiquity?
[07:31] <CBiLL> going to try atiusb and putting that conf in but Ill let you know when it done installing .. probably another hour *chuckle*
[07:31] <superm1> foxbuntu, just start ubiquity with it set as your theme
[07:31] <superm1> sudo ubiquity mythbuntu_ui
[07:31] <foxbuntu> I did that but it came up all default looking
[07:31] <foxbuntu> oh
[07:31] <superm1> after installing ubiquity-frontend-mythbuntu
[07:32] <foxbuntu> I didnt do that however
[07:32] <foxbuntu> I grabbed the wrong ubiquity too
[07:32] <foxbuntu> damn
[07:33] <foxbuntu> still all default
[07:33] <CBiLL> what the different between ATI and ATI (userspace)?
[07:33] <superm1> CBiLL, one uses a kernel module
[07:33] <superm1> and one doesnt
[07:34] <CBiLL> ah ok choosing one that use kernel module then
[07:34] <CBiLL> since it was using both dev and atiusb on mythdora
[07:36] <CBiLL> that DD is gonna be boring again lol
[07:37] <foxbuntu> superm1, it won't show up with the theme
[07:38] <CBiLL> one thing I notice when I started over it asked if I wanted to use free space on my disk which have 55% left
[07:38] <CBiLL> and does it mean last install only partition 45 % of the disk?
[07:38] <superm1> just take it all up
[07:38] <CBiLL> I did
[07:38] <superm1> no use having two installs
[07:39] <CBiLL> yup did that
[07:39] <CBiLL> but was kinda wondering why it saw I have 55% free partation to use unless that was meant for where video are storaged in
[07:40] <rhpot1991> how does mythbuntu partition the are used to store the videos?
[07:40] <CBiLL> no idea
[07:40] <CBiLL> oh a question
[07:40] <superm1> rhpot1991, nothign special is in the installer yet for partitioning reciped
[07:40] <CBiLL> once I am done installing system and setting up mythtv
[07:40] <CBiLL> do I plug my network back in?
[07:40] <CBiLL> need it for Datadirect
[07:41] <superm1> oh thats right
[07:41] <superm1> that's okay to plug back in the
[07:41] <CBiLL> same error popped up
[07:41] <CBiLL> (network is not plugged in)
[07:42] <CBiLL> click on "OK"?
[07:42] <superm1> woah really.
[07:42] <superm1> yea
[07:42] <superm1> you might have to wait for alpha4 then
[07:42] <superm1> shoudl this still happen
[07:42] <CBiLL> aw shoot
[07:42] <CBiLL> ok
[07:42] <CBiLL> still installing
[07:44] <rhpot1991> superm1: a nice LVM with xfs would be a good choice for a video partition
[07:44] <superm1> rhpot1991, LVM is not going to happen
[07:44] <superm1> not in this release
[07:45] <superm1> upstream installer needs to have a huge huge overhaul
[07:45] <superm1> for that to be supported
[07:45] <CBiLL> gonna go ahead an reboot it
[07:45] <CBiLL> without setting up mythtv
[07:45] <rhpot1991> IIRC ubuntu makes you use the classic debian installer for LVM
[07:46] <foxbuntu> superm1, I must be retarded because my theme won't apply to ubiquity at all
[07:46] <rhpot1991> I'll have to check out the installer when you get the next alpha out, so I can know what the heck is going on
[07:46] <superm1> foxbuntu, try another
[07:46] <superm1> and see
[07:46] <foxbuntu> those apply
[07:46] <foxbuntu> but when I switch to my custom one it goes default
[07:47] <superm1> i dunno foxbuntu
[07:47] <CBiLL> darn failed to start X server oh well
[07:47] <CBiLL> it was a good try
[07:47] <superm1> rhpot1991, we dont use normal d-i
[07:48] <superm1> we use a frontend that i wrote derived from the GTK frontend of ubiquity
[07:48] <superm1> rhpot1991, okay you'll see at alpha4 :)
[07:48] <rhpot1991> heh
[07:48] <rhpot1991> I guess so
[07:49] <CBiLL> look like I have to wait until alpha4 =P
[07:50] <OpenMedia> superm1: what additional themes are included in the community theme package?
[07:50] <superm1> OpenMedia, that package is gone for alpha4
[07:50] <foxbuntu> superm1, want me to commit and see if you can make it work?
[07:50] <CBiLL> Crux looks good
[07:50] <superm1> foxbuntu, i can try it
[07:50] <foxbuntu> ok
[07:50] <superm1> but not make it work
[07:51] <foxbuntu> ugh
[07:51] <foxbuntu> why
[07:51] <foxbuntu> why do you litteral me everytime?
[07:51] <OpenMedia> superm1: Wanted to take a look at what you were considering. Got a link to an older version I can suck down. None of my mythbuntu instances are running at the moment so I can't use them to pull one down.
[07:52] <superm1> OpenMedia, that box was just a place holder
[07:53] <OpenMedia> Ah ok. Got a quite a few customers who really don't like any of the standard MythTV themes. Keep getting requests for ProjectGraham amongst others.
[07:54] <foxbuntu> superm1, is the gtk branch locked?
[07:54] <superm1> foxbuntu, shouldn't be
[07:54] <foxbuntu> how do I break the lock again?
[07:54] <superm1> bzr break-lock
[07:54] <superm1> but
[07:54] <superm1> you might want to try to bzr pull
[07:55] <superm1> to see if you are just out of sync
[07:55] <foxbuntu> I did bzr update and it says its current at rev
[07:55] <foxbuntu> 5
[07:56] <superm1> yea that's rightg
[07:58] <foxbuntu> i am getting a whole bunch up this
[07:58] <foxbuntu> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/gtk2-engines-mythbuntu
[07:58] <foxbuntu> ugh
[07:58] <foxbuntu> Cannot lock: transport is read only:
[07:59] <superm1> foxbuntu, you cant push to http
[07:59] <superm1> only to bzr+ssh or sftp
[07:59] <foxbuntu> thats just from bzr commit
[07:59] <superm1> sounds like you are bound to a http branch only
[07:59] <superm1> when you did bzr co yesterday
[07:59] <foxbuntu> hmm
[07:59] <superm1> was it bzr co bzr+ssh://, bzr co sftp://, or bzr co http://
[08:01] <foxbuntu> ok I got it now
[08:01] <rhpot1991> hmmmm, how hard would it be to make a 2ndary backend be a master backend?
[08:01] <superm1> rhpot1991, not too hard
[08:01] <rhpot1991> seems my master is having some hard drive failure right now
[08:02] <superm1> rhpot1991, especially if you can get a mysql backup to it
[08:02] <rhpot1991> mysql backup is on the master, let me see if I have a knoppix or live ubuntu disc lying around
[08:03] <foxbuntu> superm1, rev 6 is online
[08:05] <cann> morning =)
[08:09] <rhpot1991> hmmm actually came up that time, DMA errors on the hard drive can't be a good sign for the future though
[08:10] <superm1> woah um foxbuntu this sitll had a really odd look
[08:10] <foxbuntu> screenshot
[08:10] <foxbuntu> since mine wont theme
[08:10] <foxbuntu> did you see the check boxes in there?
[08:10] <superm1> i just mean in general
[08:11] <superm1> its got a odd look
[08:11] <foxbuntu> oh
[08:11] <superm1> ubquity is themed by it
[08:11] <superm1> its like a weird combo of dark and light
[08:11] <rhpot1991> I'm off to get some sleep, have a good night guys
[08:11] <foxbuntu> lol
[08:11] <superm1> night
[08:11] <superm1> ah needed to set default colors
[08:11] <superm1> its all purple
[08:11] <superm1> thats why
[08:12] <foxbuntu> ?
[08:12] <superm1> let me pastebin something
[08:12] <superm1> and you'll see
[08:12] <foxbuntu> ok
[08:13] <superm1> what theme engine is this using?
[08:13] <foxbuntu> pixmap
[08:13] <foxbuntu> and default
[08:14] <superm1> maybe base it from clearlooks?
[08:14] <superm1> to give it a better look
[08:14] <foxbuntu> ugh
[08:14] <superm1> there are still a lot of dark grey menus
[08:14] <foxbuntu> is clearlooks an engine you have in the disk?
[08:14] <superm1> it is easily added
[08:15] <foxbuntu> ok well..I am going to do a full over on the theme then based on clearlooks
[08:15] <superm1> http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotjg0.png
[08:16] <foxbuntu> superm1, yeah, thats one of the things I have been figting
[08:16] <foxbuntu> fighting
[08:17] <foxbuntu> idk...it needs alot of work
[08:17] <superm1> yes it does
[08:18] <foxbuntu> the thing I am trying to avoid is changing the desktop BG that we already have...but I am starting to think its going to be unaviodable to get this to work
[08:19] <foxbuntu> superm1, anyways...I need to hit the sack...long day tomorrow
[08:19] <superm1> okay night foxbuntu
[08:20] <foxbuntu> night
[08:56] <TUX_FL> hi all. i went to dl mythtv and there is a file patcher.sh.  how./when do I run this and where do I find the documentation?  I found nothing on knoppmyth forums
[10:09] <Daviey> superm1: go to bed!
[10:09] <superm1> shhhh
[10:09] <superm1> i'm not really awake
[10:09] <superm1> i'm sleep typing
[10:09] <Daviey> heh
[10:10] <Daviey> I'm going to email bendailey later... what do you think as a subdomain then?
[10:10] <superm1> well lets just have the uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org go to you
[10:11] <superm1> and weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org go to atrpms server
[10:11] <Daviey> uk.download.myththbuntu.org or maybe uk.archieve.mythbuntu.org
[10:12] <superm1> and then for cdimages
[10:12] <superm1> uk.cdimages.mythbuntu.org ?
[10:12] <Daviey> yep
[10:12] <superm1> give me the IP, i'll shoot the mail off right now
[10:12] <superm1> before i get to bed
[10:12] <Daviey> fair nuff
[10:12] <superm1> and he'll get those up tomorrow morning then
[10:13] <Daviey> grep: addr:: No such file or directory
[10:13] <Daviey>           inet addr:212.13.194.26  Bcast:212.13.194.127  Mask:255.255.255.128
[10:13] <Daviey>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[10:13] <Daviey> bah.. that's what you get for trying to use irssi's "/exec"
[10:14] <Daviey> 212.13.194.26 <-
[10:15] <superm1> so Daviey uk.archive.mythbuntu.org or uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org
[10:15] <superm1> i guess archive makes more sense
[10:15] <Daviey> hmm.. don't mind - but yeah.. seems so
[10:15] <superm1> but then again, axel's already got things setup as weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org
[10:15] <superm1> lets do weeklybuilds for now
[10:15] <Daviey> we'll need to structure it with stable and non-stable|weekly
[10:16] <superm1> well the way the PPA architecture works, that's less than easy
[10:16] <Daviey> well if people use PPA as a repo i agree; but i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to script a few mv's
[10:17] <superm1> ppa automatically superseeds though
[10:17] <superm1> and removes old packages
[10:17] <superm1> you'll find out after they go live tomrorow
[10:17] <Daviey> tommorow!?
[10:17] <superm1> i've had to work around some big annoyances with them
[10:18] <superm1> they are supposeed to go live on wed
[10:18] <Daviey> ie?
[10:18] <superm1> version numbers
[10:18] <superm1> superseeding
[10:18] <superm1> having to manually requeue some builds
[10:18] <superm1> for like mythtv/mythplugins
[10:18] <Daviey> oh
[10:18] <superm1> unsigned packages
[10:18] <Daviey> can you ask ben to CC his return mail; so i can get it setup faster
[10:19] <Daviey> CC, me
[10:19] <superm1> sure i'll put you on a CC
[10:19] <Daviey> ta
[10:20] <superm1> as soon as PPA goes live, i need to push ubiquity, mythbuntu-control-centre,mythstream to it
[10:20] <superm1> and then we can build alpha4
[10:20] <Daviey> how does PPA packages get to atrpms?
[10:20] <superm1> at this point, i have a wget script
[10:20] <Daviey> pushed or pulled?  apt-mirror or scp?
[10:20] <superm1> that grabs it all
[10:20] <superm1> apt-mirror seems to only work as root?
[10:20] <superm1> unless you know how to do it as a user?
[10:20] <Daviey> sure?
[10:20] <Daviey> hang on
[10:21] <superm1> if you can do it as a user, i'll have axel install apt-mirror on there.
[10:21] <Daviey> $ apt-mirror
[10:21] <Daviey> Downloading 22 index files using 20 threads...
[10:21] <Daviey> apt-mirror: can't write to intermediate file (index-urls.0) at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 174.
[10:21] <Daviey> is that the error?
[10:21] <superm1> something like that yea
[10:21] <superm1> i messed around with a local mirrors.list
[10:21] <superm1> in a home directory
[10:21] <superm1> but couldnt get it to work
[10:21] <Daviey> oh.. looks like it needs a tmp write permission or something
[10:21] <Daviey> I'll have a play.. i'm certain it's possible
[10:22] <superm1> wget -nv -nH  -R index.html?* -np -m http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/
[10:22] <superm1> is what i settled on for wget
[10:22] <Daviey> eeeeek
[10:22] <superm1> yea
[10:22] <superm1> especially since you have to re grab all items
[10:22] <Daviey> That's the most complex wget line i have ever seen
[10:22] <superm1> haha
[10:22] <superm1> i spent like 10 minutes crafting it
[10:22] <superm1> finding the right paramaters
[10:22] <superm1> or even parameters
[10:23] <Daviey> heh - i'll have to `wget -h` to see what the heck it does
[10:23] <superm1> still don't have signing working right either
[10:23] <superm1> if you can get the repo signed correctly after mirroring
[10:23] <superm1> let me know
[10:23] <superm1> i'm not sure what files i'm supposed to be signing, but i'm obviously doing the wrong ones
[10:23] <Daviey> hmm.. i could play with that today.. can you check in the script you are currently using?
[10:24] <Daviey> check-in or email
[10:24] <superm1> wget -nv -nH  -R index.html?* -np -m http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/
[10:24] <superm1> gpg -abs -o /srv/weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/www/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/feisty/Release.gpg /srv/weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/www/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/feisty/Release
[10:24] <superm1> gpg -abs -o /srv/weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/www/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release.gpg /srv/weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/www/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release
[10:24] <superm1> that's everything
[10:24] <Daviey> erm.. i don't think i have the private key tho
[10:24] <superm1> so obviously using the primary gpg key on the box
[10:24] <superm1> use your own
[10:24] <superm1> to test it
[10:24] <Daviey> k
[10:25] <superm1> once you've got things right, then we can sort out where to keep the private key
[10:25] <superm1> maybe have each of us apt-mirror from the PPA
[10:25] <superm1> and then i'll sign
[10:25] <superm1> and you wget the Release.gpg
[10:25] <superm1> or both of us sign
[10:25] <superm1> however
[10:26] <Daviey> yeah.. that can be sorted later.. I'm keen to try and keep all the mirrors as uptodate as poss
[10:26] <superm1> well and with apt-mirror
[10:27] <superm1> that's really freaking easy
[10:27] <superm1> once its set up
[10:28] <superm1> okay bed for me.  hopefully you get apt-mirror sorted out :)  ping or mail me with what you find.
[10:28] <superm1> i mailed ben and CCed you on it
[10:29] <Daviey> k
[10:29] <Daviey> nn
[10:29] <superm1> night
[12:11] <laga> re
[12:27] <laga> gah
[12:27] <laga> superm1: any idea why lirc_atiusb.ko doesn't build with lirc 0.8.2 backported to feisty?
[12:29] <Daviey> laga: he's gone to bed
[12:32] <laga> i know
[12:33] <laga> no lircd.conf for my remote. sad.
[12:38] <laga> oh, ati_remote.ko has a repeat_filter parameter, that could be useful, too
[12:45] <dablitz> good morning channel
[12:45] <dablitz> is there anyone around
[12:47] <DaveMorris> morning dablitz
[12:48] <DaveMorris> Daviey: when you ordered those IR receivers what was the delivery time roughly?
[12:48] <dablitz> can you help me out with something
[12:48] <DaveMorris> I can try
[12:49] <dablitz> how to I dump my current myth database so I can start all over
[12:50] <DaveMorris> mysqldump -u<username> -p<password> <databasename> > dump.sql
[12:50] <DaveMorris> not sure what the db name is atm, let me check
[12:50] <dablitz> will that erase the current mythconverg
[12:51] <laga> DaveMorris: mythconverg
[12:51] <DaveMorris> no, it dumps a copy of the database into the file dump.sql
[12:51] <dablitz> no I want to erase the current and start fresh
[12:51] <laga> dablitz: no, use "drop" in mysql for that
[12:51] <DaveMorris> laga: thanks, saves me looking it up
[12:51] <dablitz> ok what whould the string be for that
[12:52] <laga> i'm still amazed how many people misinterpret "ubuntu" as "let others read the manuel for you"
[12:52] <laga> s/manuel/manual/
[12:53] <dablitz> ok i get
[12:53] <DaveMorris> dablitz: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/drop-database.html has the syntax for dropdb
[12:54] <dablitz> so mysql -u XXXXXX -p XXXXXX drop mythconverg;
[12:55] <DaveMorris> seems right
[12:55] <dablitz> thankyou
[12:55] <laga> almost
[12:55] <DaveMorris> although you may need to be root
[12:55] <dablitz> so sudo ........
[12:55] <laga> you mustn't have a space between "-p" and the password
[12:55] <laga> dablitz: you shouldn't IRC as root, btw
[12:55] <dablitz> thanks
[12:56] <DaveMorris> his gone but for the logs.  root on mysql isn't always the same as root on the system, so instead use -u root
[12:57] <laga> fsck LIRC
[12:57] <laga> back to inputlirc it is.
[12:59] <laga> [620276.010314]  ivtv0: All encoder MPEG stream buffers are full. Dropping data.
[12:59] <laga> poor backend :(
[12:59] <laga> [620276.010322]  ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough.
[12:59] <laga> gah
[01:05] <Daviey> DaveMorris: dunno <2 weeks iirc
[01:06] <Daviey> bah.. somebody wake up superm1
[01:06] <DaveMorris> maybe if we all shout at once
[01:06] <Daviey> DaveMorris: my last set of shipit cd's went via uganda
[01:07] <Daviey> bah.. DaveMorris is tooo busy to talk to us
[01:07] <laga> bah
[01:07] <DaveMorris> well it is lunchtime in a mo, and food comes 1st :P
[01:08] <Daviey> what are we having?
[01:12] <DaveMorris> Coronation chicken sandwiches
[01:14] <Daviey> yum
[01:15] <DaveMorris> FTSE100 is down again
[01:54] <cornell_work> Morning all... just a reality check from a novice, who doesn't want to screw things up too badly.  On www.mythbuntu.org, it says that myth 0.20.2 includes support for Schedules DIrect, and Gutsy users can upgrade through "standard apt methods".
[01:54] <cornell_work> That'd be sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade, right?
[01:55] <laga> if you have to ask, just use synaptic or adept or whatever GUI frontend is used at the moment
[01:58] <cornell_work> It's just that, one reason I'm on mythbuntu, is I trashed my knoppmyth by doing a apt-det upgrade, don't want to trash mythbuntu.  Using synaptic would be like simply hitting the update, or do I have to go through and check the 0.20.2 packages?
[01:58] <cornell_work> s/a apt-det/an apt-get/
[01:59] <laga> 0.20.2 should already be in gutsy universe, so a normal upgrade should be OK
[02:00] <laga> it's unlikely you'll trash your mythbuntu install, but it's possible, of course
[02:00] <laga> get a backup if you're worried.
[02:00] <laga> or don't use experimental software.
[02:00] <Daviey> cornell_work: knoppmyth will openly admit that at times their repo's are in a mess.. you should be fine upgrading on *buntu
[02:15] <Daviey> bendailey: o/
[02:15] <bendailey> superm1, Good Morning
[02:15] <Daviey> Did you get superm1's mail?
[02:15] <Daviey> superm1, is in bed
[02:15] <bendailey> Daviey, yeah
[02:16] <bendailey> dns is updated and resolves properly here
[02:17] <laga> morning bendailey
[02:17] <laga> oh
[02:17] <laga> what DNS?
[02:17] <bendailey> morning laga
[02:17] <Daviey> bendailey: you *star*
[02:17] <bendailey> mythbuntu.org records
[02:17] <bendailey> thanks Daviey, glad I can help
[02:18] <laga> to where are they pointing now? do we have a new web host?
[02:18] <Daviey> bendailey: resolves here aswell
[02:18] <Daviey> ta
[02:18] <Daviey> laga: I'm being a mirror
[02:19] <bendailey> main site is the same just mirrors for weeklybuilds and cdimages
[02:19] <laga> ah
[02:20] <bendailey> Daviey, thanks for checking
[02:21] <bendailey> I am going to drop superm1 an email also
[02:22] <bendailey> ttyl
[02:36] <Daviey> superm1: go back to bed
[03:01] <laga> " We may not always agree, but
[03:01] <laga>       disagreement is no excuse for poor behaviour and poor
[03:01] <laga>       manners."
[03:01] <laga> i can't possibly sign the code of conduct
[03:14] <cornell_work> Thanks Daviey
[03:26] <Daviey> cornell_work: what have i done?
[03:26] <Daviey> laga: where was that a quote from?
[03:26] <Daviey> laga: doh.. the CoC which i *have* signed
[03:26] <Daviey> eek
[03:26] <laga> heh
[03:27] <laga> no yelling "RTFM" for you then ;)
[03:27] <Daviey> f'k off
[03:27] <Daviey> :)
[03:27] <Daviey> What's wrong with, Read The Friendly Manual?
[03:27] <laga> heh
[03:30] <DaveMorris> but not Daviey's ;)
[03:50] <gpd> possible faq: can I add the mythbuntu repository to my regular ubuntu feisty machine to get latest packages of mythtv?
[03:50] <Daviey> yes
[03:51] <Daviey> but, they are currently not signed packages
[03:51] <Daviey> They will be later today
[03:51] <gpd> ok - so i just add feisty-proposed :)?
[03:52] <Daviey> well later today I or Mario will post to the ML with details, i expect
[03:52] <gpd> ok - thanks
[03:53] <Daviey> gpd: what arch are you running?
[03:53] <Daviey> i386 or amd64?
[04:05] <rhpot1991> gpd if you do that let me know how it works for you, I did it and I have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend stuck and it keeps updating it constantly
[04:07] <Daviey> rhpot1991: is that a mythbuntu or ubuntu install?
[04:07] <rhpot1991> ubuntu install with mythbuntu repos added later
[04:08] <rhpot1991> its really strange, since the package installed fine and works fine
[04:08] <Daviey> hmm.. that is odd - i haven't heard of that issue before
[04:08] <rhpot1991> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35339/
[04:08] <rhpot1991> ya I have been talking with mario about it, apparently I'm the only one
[04:08] <Daviey> hmm
[04:08] <Daviey> Have you tried removing + reinstalling?
[04:09] <rhpot1991> yep
[04:09] <rhpot1991> purged the package and all
[04:09] <rhpot1991> also, I have this happening on 2 boxes
[04:09] <rhpot1991> I went and completely removed everything mythtv on the one last night
[04:09] <rhpot1991> and reinstalled, same problem still existed
[04:09] <rhpot1991> the only thing I have done different at all is that I installed mythweather revamp by hand a while back
[04:10] <Daviey> ah
[04:10] <Daviey> have you tried removing that after --purge?
[04:10] <rhpot1991> did remove then purge?
[04:10] <rhpot1991> no ? there
[04:11] <rhpot1991> I can try the other way around, but I thought remove then purge was the way to do it
[04:11] <rhpot1991> let me see if I can ssh in
[04:11] <Daviey> it is
[04:11] <Daviey> Sorry i mean't manually remove any mythweather stuff
[04:12] <rhpot1991> I did make uninstall
[04:12] <rhpot1991> and then went and removed files I saw that were mythweather related
[04:12] <rhpot1991> I could have missed some though
[04:12] <rhpot1991> not really sure why that should effect it at all
[04:13] <rhpot1991> if I remove the weekly build repos, it stops wanting to update
[04:14] <Daviey> after purge, sudo find / -iname myth
[04:14] <Daviey> seems the package isn't installing correctly
[04:15] <rhpot1991> sudo find / -iname myth
[04:16] <rhpot1991> didn't return anything
[04:16] <Daviey> hmm
[04:17] <rhpot1991> that doesn't make sense
[04:17] <rhpot1991> is that searching for files with myth in it
[04:17] <Daviey> sorry.. poorly formed search
[04:18] <Daviey>  sudo find / | grep myth
[04:18] <cornell_work> Daviey, you answered about the knoppmyth and that buntu'd be ok...  I'm at work and so sometimes don't get to respond in a timely fashion.
[04:18] <Daviey> ah... ok
[04:18] <rhpot1991> hmmm thats a whole ton of results
[04:21] <rhpot1991> Daviey: you looking for something specific from those results?
[04:22] <Daviey> rhpot1991: i need to dash.. sorry
[04:22] <rhpot1991> alright
[04:44] <laga> http://www.linux.com/feature/118668
[04:44] <laga> ^^ comparison between mythbuntu, mythdora and knoppmyth
[04:45] <superm1> laga, yea i  just saw that
[04:45] <superm1> interesting read
[04:46] <bendailey> superm1, just shot you an email
[04:46] <superm1> bendailey, okay great.  just got up, so i'll get it in a few
[04:47] <DaveMorris> "The GTK theme, however, needs replacing -- not for the aesthetic reasons I usually complain about, but because the on and off button states are too difficult to distinguish. That is very important at install time, when a bad selection can hose your entire hard drive, and doubly so when running a live CD with its slow user interface response time." - worth noting
[04:51] <superm1> Yea indeed.
[04:52] <DaveMorris> also the part about when we are jumping between OS/mythtv questions in the installer
[04:52] <DaveMorris> prehaps we can change the order
[04:53] <superm1> well with the new installer changes going in alpha4, changing the order isn't very difficult
[04:53] <DaveMorris> I actually run the retro theme myself, what are the new themes like that have been added?
[04:54] <Daviey> superm1: arg!
[04:54] <laga> new installer changes? anything nifty? :)
[04:54] <Daviey> I'm on my way out..
[04:54] <superm1> Daviey, anything on apt-mirror?
[04:54] <superm1> before you leave
[04:54] <Daviey> yes
[04:54] <Daviey> sorted!
[04:54] <DaveMorris> also, we use openbox, I was wondering weather using xfce will make it feel and behave more like ubuntu (gnome)
[04:54] <superm1> DaveMorris, wonderful!
[04:54] <Daviey> Check out the uk repo ;)
[04:54] <Daviey> Bah.. i do the work and DaveMorris gets the thanks
[04:54] <superm1> haha
[04:55] <superm1> wonderful <tab><tab> Daviey
[04:55] <Daviey> superm1: I have automated the apt-mirror and signing in a script
[04:55] <Daviey> and cron'd it
[04:55] <superm1> Daviey, can you shoot me a mail
[04:55] <superm1> befroer you leave then
[04:55] <Daviey> erm
[04:55] <Daviey> I literally need to go
[04:55] <superm1> and i'll get it on atrpms
[04:55] <superm1> na no you dont
[04:55] <superm1> your lying.
[04:55] <Daviey> problem tho
[04:55] <Daviey> .. the pgp passphrase will need to be stored in plaintext
[04:56] <superm1> i'll sort htat with you in a pm.
[04:56] <Daviey> okay..
[04:56] <superm1> later on
[04:56] <Daviey> script is pretty straight forward
[04:56] <superm1> laga, all installer steps are debconf'ized now.
[04:56] <Daviey> be back in ~2hrs
[04:56] <superm1> k
[04:56] <Daviey>  - but uk.cdimage and uk.weekly' is working
[04:56] <Daviey> have a look
[04:56] <Daviey> ttfn
[04:57] <superm1> er they have different roots. but yea okay
[04:57] <superm1> later l
[04:57] <laga> superm1: cool
[04:57] <superm1> DaveMorris, you mean full out xfce?
[04:57] <superm1> DaveMorris, or just xfce's window manager?
[04:58] <superm1> laga, so consequently the installer is a little slower, but can be fully rearranged
[04:58] <DaveMorris> the full out xfce is quite light I beleive, and may fit on the cd
[04:58] <superm1> after alpha4 this week lets experiment
[04:58] <laga> superm1: is it easier to add new questions now, or do you still have to hack ubiquity?
[04:58] <superm1> laga, well yes/no
[04:58] <superm1> i mean you still need to put them in multiple places
[04:59] <DaveMorris> it'd def very light on resources, running it on a 366mhz machine with 128Mb ram and its quite responsive etc
[04:59] <superm1> but it feels less hacky
[04:59] <laga> superm1: k
[05:10] <tgm4883> superm1, if it is any consolation, his website is still down
[05:10] <tgm4883> so he may just be ignoring you because he doesn't have an answer yet
[05:11] <superm1> tgm4883, you you mean brandon.
[05:11] <bdmurray> superm1: I'm not sure the new mythfilldatabase (feisty-proposed) is working for me
[05:11] <tgm4883> yea
[05:11] <superm1> bdmurray, can you check the consistency of your database?
[05:12] <superm1> bdmurray, there was a report already that someone had broken sql tables, and needed to run the contrib/optimize.pl
[05:12] <superm1> script
[05:12] <bdmurray> superm1: alrighty
[05:12] <tgm4883> superm1, when 20.2 clears feisty proposed it will be in feisty (or feisty backports) right?
[05:13] <superm1> tgm4883, feisty-updates
[05:13] <tgm4883> ah
[05:21] <superm1> okay kids i'm out for now.  be back later
[05:26] <temba> hello
[05:34] <keescook> superm1_: errors:
[05:34] <keescook> Setting up mythtv-backend (0.20.2-0ubuntu0.7.04~proposed1) ...
[05:34] <keescook> mythbackend already running, use restart instead.
[05:45] <keescook> bdmurray: I got the same warning in the status display, but the mythfill seemed not to have errors
[05:45] <tgm4883> superm1 superm1_, when your around again, I forgot another module you need to install in drupal
[05:46] <laga>  Standing alone for the world to see
[05:46] <laga>  Non-starter - push harder
[05:46] <laga>  He still believes his time will come
[05:46] <laga>  Small wonder - old thunder
[05:46] <laga> oops, sorry!
[05:46] <tgm4883> hmm
[05:46] <laga> stupid fingers
[05:46] <tgm4883> laga is a poet and didn't know it
[05:46] <laga> that was an (accidental) quote from the song "bad to the bone" by running wild
[05:46] <laga> <3 speed metal
[05:46] <tgm4883> cue terminator
[05:47] <bdmurray> keescook: did you check you schedule data?  mine had empty information at the end last i checked
[05:47] <keescook> bdmurray: what do you mean by "empty"?
[05:47] <bdmurray> keescook: "NO DATA" at the last day of scheduling information
[05:48] <keescook> I have the same (it's the edge of available data)
[05:48] <keescook> what I should have done was see how far it went _before_ the fill.  :P
[05:49] <keescook> since the DD fill happened at 2007-08-28 07:37:42, it's not a giant surprise that nothing new got pulled when I tried SD at 2007-08-28 08:43:48
[05:50] <bdmurray> keescook: better catch bryce then
[05:55] <temba> guys
[05:55] <tgm4883> temba
[05:55] <temba> one quest, how can i install GNOME after installed the mythbuntu ?
[05:55] <temba> via console ?
[05:55] <temba> hi tgm4883
[05:55] <tgm4883> is the control center in alpha 3?
[05:56] <tgm4883> sec temba
[05:56] <temba> hmm when i "exit" mythtv, i have a desktop with stop mythtv , restart mythtv
[05:56] <temba> and so on
[05:57] <temba> i can login with user i added at install, but i cant choose "gnome" for session
[05:57] <tgm4883> right
[05:57] <tgm4883> let me look it up real quick
[05:57] <temba> oke
[05:57] <DaveMorris> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will pull in the whole gnome desktop and OOo etc
[05:58] <temba> ah oke, and how setup network settings ? also console ?
[05:58] <DaveMorris> it can be done on the console, not sure if the gui tool is installed
[05:59] <temba> nope
[05:59] <tgm4883> DaveMorris, i was looking for the control centre, is it not in gutsy yet?
[05:59] <temba> no gui, but its oke, i am bit experienced with console
[05:59] <temba> tgm4883 i have this 7.10 from mythbuntu.org
[06:00] <tgm4883> temba, why do you need to setup network settings
[06:00] <tgm4883> mythbuntu is based on gutsy
[06:00] <temba> in mythtv i clicked something that opened a browser and it couldnt conect to www
[06:00] <temba> ahh gutsy = ubuntu 7.10
[06:00] <tgm4883> the network settings should already be setup, as thats how you get your schedule
[06:01] <tgm4883> open up a terminal and to lspci
[06:01] <tgm4883> see if it see's your network card
[06:01] <tgm4883> and do ifconfig
[06:01] <temba> i wondered at setup 7.10 it only asked for uip of machine, it dont asked for gateway and dns
[06:05] <tgm4883> temba, what does ifconfig say?
[06:05] <temba> tgm4883 i can paste later, at moment i am at work, and pc with myth setup is home
[06:05] <tgm4883> ah ok
[06:06] <tgm4883> well when you do paste
[06:06] <tgm4883> remember
[06:06] <temba> is samba also included, or how do i put films onit
[06:06] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[06:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <temba> sure
[06:06] <temba> i know pastebin well
[06:06] <temba> hehe
[06:06] <tgm4883> samba i believe is installed by default
[06:06] <temba> ok
[06:06] <tgm4883> i'll also find out where the control centre is for you
[06:06] <temba> u work with remote control on mythtv ?
[06:06] <tgm4883> as that makes installing the desktop easier
[06:06] <temba> ahh
[06:07] <tgm4883> yes, i have remote
[06:07] <temba> great if u find out , woul dbe cool
[06:07] <temba> what remote u can recommend ? i am not firm with this. i read anything about LIRC or so
[06:08] <tgm4883> I really like the MCE remote
[06:08] <tgm4883> it's a really good remote that superm1 recommended to me
[06:08] <tgm4883> although, if you have a serial receiver, you can use any remote I think
[06:26] <temba> oke , i finish at work and on way home now
[06:26] <tgm4883> k
[06:26] <temba> u found out where the mythtv control centre is ?
[06:27] <tgm4883> looking
[06:27] <tgm4883> i think i know though
[06:27] <temba> anyway , 1-2 hours i am back in here
[06:37] <laga> is the control centre already in alpha 3?
[06:48] <tgm4883> laga, no
[06:48] <tgm4883> alpha 4
[06:48] <tgm4883> but it should be downloadable into alpha 3
[06:49] <tgm4883> i think it is in superm1's ppa
[06:52] <fxfitz> Hey there! Are the weekly builds fixed? It looks like on mythbuntu.org there is a test server?
[06:53] <tgm4883> weekly iso's?
[06:53] <fxfitz> No no, like... umm... package updates I think they're called. I don't use Mythbuntu (regular Ubuntu) and I used to have it set up so I can get updates from Mythbuntu for all my MythTV stuff.
[06:53] <fxfitz> Does that sound familiar?
[06:54] <tgm4883> ah
[06:54] <tgm4883> were they broke at some time?
[06:54] <laga> it's not ready yet AFAIK
[06:54] <tgm4883> it's still on the ppa test server
[06:55] <laga> Weekly Builds
[06:55] <laga> Lastly, weekly builds on the current test server, ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net have been updated. These include the gutsy packaging, but are built for Feisty. We're still waiting for PPA to go live to migrate to the new server and include signed keys. There was an unanticipated delay in it's roll-out. The new URL will be announced as soon as we're ready.
[06:55] <laga> right
[06:55] <fxfitz> Gotcha. Thanks a bunch! I'm just dying to update these 20 packages. :-P
[06:56] <tgm4883> well don't do that.  It's hard to update from beyond the grave :)
[06:57] <fxfitz> Hehe :-P
[07:00] <laga> sure
[07:00] <laga> use a cron job
[07:01] <tgm4883> lol
[07:04] <fxfitz> Actually, http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds took care of what I wanted! Woo!
[07:09] <rhpot1991> fxfitz: did you updates via the auto builds yet?
[07:09] <fxfitz> rhpot1991, Yup, sure have.
[07:10] <rhpot1991> do you have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend package installed?
[07:11] <fxfitz> rhpot1991, Nope. Why??
[07:11] <rhpot1991> I am having a problem where it will not get out of my update list
[07:11] <rhpot1991> even though it is installed correctly
[07:14] <fxfitz> Hmm. I don't know.
[07:14] <fxfitz> I'm actually not using Mythbuntu, just all the packages, so that might be why its different.,
[07:15] <rhpot1991> thats what I am doing too, just wanted to see if you had that package and if it worked ok
[07:46] <superm1> Daviey, have you returned?
[07:46] <superm1> i'm here for a little
[07:48] <laga> superm1: looked at my bugs/feature requests for the lirc generator yet?
[07:48] <superm1> laga, No, want to point me at them?
[07:48] <laga> sure
[07:49] <laga> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135275
[07:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 135275 in mythbuntu-lirc-generator "Can't change capture cards/inputs" [Undecided,New] 
[07:49] <laga> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135277
[07:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 135277 in mythbuntu-lirc-generator "repeat/delay not handled for lircrc" [Undecided,New] 
[07:50] <superm1> laga, the repeat one, how do you decide which buttons get repeat?
[07:50] <tgm4883> superm1, http://drupal.org/project/views
[07:50] <laga> superm1: i imagined a global setting for now
[07:51] <superm1> laga, in my experience, repeat is only a good idea on buttons like volume and channel though
[07:51] <tgm4883> i also figured out why i need g2 drupal integration
[07:51] <laga> in my experience, it's a good idea on all buttons :)
[07:51] <superm1> tgm4883, looks interesting - do you have it up on the test site?
[07:51] <laga> i'm using a self-made lircd.conf though because the lirc stuff wouldn't work with ma ati remote wonder I otherwise
[07:51] <tgm4883> yea, i use it for the bittorrent plugin so i can see some stats
[07:52] <tgm4883> it was recommended by the bittorrent author
[07:52] <superm1> tgm4883, doesn't break anything by installing it right?
[07:52] <tgm4883> i don't believe so, seems to work on the test site
[07:52] <tgm4883> we can install it later though
[07:52] <superm1> well if it didn't break anything by installing it i'll pop it on right now
[07:53] <superm1> laga, what's missing of your lircd.conf?
[07:53] <superm1> odds are it affects other people too
[07:53] <tgm4883> yea, didn't break anything
[07:53] <superm1> eh i don't have my public key on this machine.  i'll have to do it later from my other machine
[07:54] <laga> superm1: the whole conf was missing ;) userspace driver only had a lircd.conf for the remote wonder II; kernel space driver was not built (!) on my feisty install - i backported lirc to feisty
[07:54] <superm1> remote wonder I is difference?
[07:54] <laga> superm1: i built the kernel space driver manually but didn't get any irw output either.
[07:54] <laga> superm1: it would seem so
[07:55] <laga> maybe i was just using a different channel, though - it's got 16 channels
[07:55] <superm1> hm
[07:56] <laga> dunno how i'd select that in lirc, though. i was not really keen on investing too much time since my setup was already working.
[07:56] <laga> i'll submit my lircd.conf upstream once i added some missing keys.
[07:57] <superm1> k
[07:58] <laga> BTW, lircd.conf has "right" and "right_click" buttons. the lirc-generator assigned config = "right" to button "right_click". do you think there could be some more sophisticated matching algorithm?
[07:59] <superm1> well of course
[07:59] <superm1> file another bug :)
[07:59] <laga> yay
[08:00] <laga> later or tomorrow, gotta run now
[08:00] <laga> i could even try to add the repeat/delay stuff myself. global option would be simple
[08:04] <Daviey> superm1: I'm here...
[08:14] <laga> superm1: what exactly does "triage" mean?
[08:14] <tgm4883> laga, isn't that the urgent part of the emergency room?
[08:16] <laga> tgm4883: i haven't watched that in a long time
[08:17] <tgm4883> laga, well i meant the real ER
[08:17] <Daviey> superm1__: ?
[08:17] <Daviey> Where'd you go?
[08:17] <superm1__> Daviey, my laptop froze
[08:17] <Daviey> bah
[08:17] <superm1__> can you just post the stuff in here in case it happens again so its logged by superm1_
[08:19] <Daviey> wait 1
[08:19] <Daviey> daughter needs me
[08:19] <superm1__> k
[08:21] <cornell_work> laga: "triage" is the act of determining which injuries are more serious, and hence who gets attention first.
[08:22] <tgm4883> it's french
[08:22] <tgm4883> so we probably shouldn't use it
[08:25] <cornell_work> oops...  seriousness, and likelyhood of survival.  That is, a seriously wounded person, might not get attention because his wounds are fatal.
[08:26] <Daviey> super
[08:26] <superm1__> ya
[08:26] <Daviey> superm1__: so you saved mirror.list?
[08:26] <superm1__> ya
[08:26] <Daviey> then mkdir /home/malimonc/mirror
[08:26] <cornell_work> Can also be used to reference sorting other things.  See http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=16736
[08:26] <Daviey> then mkdir /home/malimonc/mirror/mirror
[08:26] <Daviey> then mkdir /home/malimonc/mirror/var
[08:27] <Daviey> then mkdir /home/malimonc/mirror/skel
[08:27] <superm1__> k
[08:27] <Daviey> apt-mirror /home/where_you_saved/mirror.list
[08:27] <Daviey> that's it.. for mirroring
[08:28] <Daviey> now.. what problem did you have signing?
[08:28] <superm1__> what files do you sign?
[08:28] <superm1__> and how
[08:28] <Daviey> I signed all Releases
[08:28] <superm1__> every one?
[08:28] <Daviey> yep
[08:28] <superm1__> so you just listed them?
[08:28] <superm1__> or used xargs or what?
[08:28] <Daviey> find -iname Release etc
[08:29] <Daviey> well i used "-exec" of find
[08:29] <superm1__> can you paste your line u did it with?
[08:29] <superm1__> minus passpharase of course
[08:29] <superm1__> or just make it XXXXX
[08:29] <superm1__> etc
[08:29] <Daviey> well passphrase is 123456
[08:29] <Daviey> *really*
[08:29] <Daviey> find /home/mythbuntu/apt-mirror/ -iname Release -exec sign.sh {}
[08:30] <Daviey> then sign.sh:   cat mypgp.txt | gpg --yes --passphrase-fd 0 -abs $1
[08:30] <Daviey> You cat fix them back to one - i had to use two as passphrase just wouldn't work from find directly :s
[08:30] <superm1__> and it auto outputs Release.gpg
[08:30] <superm1__> in the right place?
[08:30] <Daviey> erm
[08:31] <Daviey> Release.asc
[08:31] <Daviey> *not* Release.gpg
[08:31] <superm1__> ohh.
[08:31] <Daviey> should it be?
[08:31] <superm1__> i thought it was supposed to be Release.gpg?
[08:31] <superm1__> i dont know for sure
[08:31] <superm1__> but i thought
[08:31] <Daviey> better chek
[08:32] <Daviey> There is a package called debsign...  That i tried to use
[08:32] <Daviey> "debsign: Must be run from top of source dir or a .changes file given as arg"
[08:32] <Daviey> which is hardly possible eh?
[08:32] <superm1__> right
[08:33] <Daviey> on another note.. I saw you winged about uk.* pointing to two different roots..
[08:33] <Daviey> Isn't that how it should be?
[08:33] <Daviey> considering they are different sub-domains?
[08:33] <superm1__> no.
[08:33] <superm1__> i want them to be identical mirrors
[08:34] <superm1__> as the ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net
[08:34] <superm1__> strcutre
[08:34] <superm1__> structure
[08:34] <Daviey> fair nuff... just seems odd to have two subdomains for the same thing tho :s
[08:34] <superm1__> well think of ubuntu mirrors
[08:35] <superm1__> thats how they do it too
[08:35] <Daviey> okay.. but i might add.. you are a pain :)
[08:35] <superm1__> of course i am :)
[08:35] <superm1__> symlinks
[08:35] <superm1__> are your friend
[08:36] <Daviey> yeah.. i as keeping it neat tho
[08:36] <Daviey> /home/mythbuntu/html/cdimage
[08:36] <Daviey> /home/mythbuntu/html/weeklybuilds
[08:37] <superm1__> well  under that directory weeklybuilds
[08:37] <superm1__> just use mythbuntu/ubuntu
[08:37] <superm1__> structure
[08:37] <Daviey> arg..
[08:37] <Daviey> want ssh access to do it yourself
[08:37] <Daviey> :D
[08:37] <florin_andrei> support page suggestion: http://www.mythbuntu.org/support
[08:38] <superm1__> hi florin_andrei sure,what you think?
[08:38] <florin_andrei> it indicates the IRC channel, but there's no mention about the IRC server :-)
[08:38] <superm1__> florin_andrei, good call.  tgm4883 ^
[08:38] <tgm4883> on it
[08:38] <Daviey> bah.. who uses anything other than freenode?
[08:39] <superm1__> gimpnet
[08:39] <florin_andrei> yeah, but still
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[08:39] <tgm4883> florin_andrei, i dont know what your talking about.  It's right there ;)
[08:40] <florin_andrei> how long will the first release be supported? I'd like to build a server, and then upgrade only when absolutely necessary
[08:40] <florin_andrei> I was thinking to install CentOS (very long release cycle) but I may use Mythbuntu if releases are supported long enough
[08:41] <superm1__> florin_andrei, same time as ubuntu releases supported
[08:41] <Daviey> superm1__: refresk uk.*
[08:41] <florin_andrei> oh look, the support page is fixed! thanks :-)
[08:42] <superm1__> Daviey, my laptop is about to go dead.  i'll be back in ~30-50 min.
[08:42] <Daviey> florin_andrei: but we promise that out packages *rock*
[08:42] <Daviey> :)
[08:42] <florin_andrei> silly question: how long will Gutsy be supported?
[08:42] <tgm4883> 18 months
[08:43] <Daviey> florin_andrei: Gutsy+3 will be 3 years tho
[08:43] <Daviey> bah.. gutsy+1 rather
[08:43] <florin_andrei> so which one applies to Mythbuntu?
[08:44] <tgm4883> mythbuntu is based on gutsy
[08:44] <Daviey> but you can upgrade to gutsy+1 when it comes out
[08:44] <Daviey> rememeber ubuntu + myth rock
[08:44] <tgm4883> and i believe that it will receive gutsy updates for 18 months, but only mythbuntu updates for 6 months
[08:45] <florin_andrei> hm, this is not quite optimal for people building dedicated machines. that's pretty much a DIY appliance, you don't want to update it too often
[08:46] <florin_andrei> I mean, a security update here and there is fine, but the whole OS, or even just the whole Myth suite... that's a bit too much
[08:47] <temba> re
[08:48] <temba> tgm4883 ? u there ?
[08:48] <tgm4883> yes
[08:48] <tgm4883> florin_andrei, im not totally sure about that
[08:48] <tgm4883> ask superm1, as he knows more
[08:48] <tgm4883> im just going by what I thought the wording meant on mythbuntu.org
[08:48] <temba> back again. i tried to connect to my pc to tv and get only weird screen, seems it cant sync with tv. ati radeon 9250 here
[08:49] <tgm4883> is your mythbuntu updated?
[08:49] <temba> u mean sudo apt-get update ?
[08:49] <tgm4883> yea
[08:49] <tgm4883> wait
[08:49] <tgm4883> sudo apt-get update
[08:49] <tgm4883> then
[08:49] <tgm4883> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:49] <temba> mom gotta set ip shit
[08:49] <temba> u find out where control centre is ?
[08:49] <tgm4883> ah thats right
[08:49] <tgm4883> yep
[08:50] <tgm4883> what does ifconfig give you?
[08:50] <temba> mom
[08:50] <temba> just firing up machine
[08:50] <tgm4883> ok
[08:50] <tgm4883> im assuming mom means moment?
[08:52] <temba> yes
[08:52] <tgm4883> ok
[08:52] <tgm4883> just checking
[08:52] <temba> it shows eth0 and
[08:53] <tgm4883> ok, and your system doesn't get the ip from a dhcp server?
[08:53] <temba> nope
[08:53] <temba> my router has fixed ip
[08:53] <tgm4883> ok, how are you connected to the internet?
[08:54] <temba> yes
[08:54] <tgm4883> through a router which goes to a modem?
[08:55] <temba> this windows pc is also on the router
[08:55] <tgm4883> ah
[08:55] <tgm4883> can you open up a terminal on the windows pc and type ipconfig /all
[08:55] <tgm4883> is the ipaddress that it shows something like 192.168.x.x?
[08:56] <temba> nope cant connect via ssh
[08:56] <tgm4883> ok
[08:56] <tgm4883> click on start, then click on run
[08:56] <tgm4883> type in
[08:56] <tgm4883> cmd
[08:56] <tgm4883> then press enter
[08:56] <temba> cant ping the machine
[08:56] <tgm4883> does a dos prompt pop up?
[08:56] <temba> ya sure
[08:56] <tgm4883> ok
[08:57] <tgm4883> in the dos prompt
[08:57] <tgm4883> type
[08:57] <tgm4883> ipconfig /all
[08:57] <tgm4883> hit enter and tell me what the ip address starts with
[08:59] <temba> http://pastebin.com/m76ad22d4
[08:59] <tgm4883> ok
[08:59] <tgm4883> lets try one thing on the linux machine first
[08:59] <temba> k
[08:59] <tgm4883> in the terminal
[09:00] <tgm4883> type in
[09:00] <tgm4883> sudo dhclient eth0
[09:00] <tgm4883> hit enter
[09:02] <temba> i tries several things now
[09:02] <tgm4883> ok
[09:02] <temba> NO dhcpoffers found
[09:03] <tgm4883> ok
[09:03] <tgm4883> then lets do this
[09:04] <tgm4883> do
[09:04] <tgm4883> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[09:05] <temba> yep
[09:05] <temba> vi i like more
[09:05] <temba> ok
[09:05] <temba> i am in
[09:05] <tgm4883> sec
[09:05] <tgm4883> do you know of a free ip address for your network?
[09:05] <temba> normally it should look like this
[09:05] <temba> http://pastebin.com/m65297630
[09:06] <tgm4883> well yea sorta, but thats not quite right for your network
[09:07] <tgm4883> first, can you ping 192.168.2.7 from your windows machine
[09:08] <temba> nope
[09:08] <tgm4883> ok
[09:08] <temba> its free
[09:09] <tgm4883> ok, i think if you put this into that file it should work right
[09:09] <tgm4883> http://pastebin.com/m7b930b4e
[09:09] <tgm4883> once your done editing the file, save it
[09:09] <tgm4883> then do this
[09:09] <tgm4883> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:12] <laga> superm1_: watch #mythtv ;)
[09:14] <laga> g'night
[09:16] <temba> hmm restart no result
[09:16] <temba> i reboot
[09:16] <tgm4883> hmm
[09:17] <tgm4883> ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr"
[09:17] <tgm4883> can you ping the windows machine from the linux machine or vice versa
[09:18] <temba> moment
[09:18] <temba> yeah i can ping the linux machine
[09:18] <tgm4883> can the linux machine ping the windows machine?
[09:18] <tgm4883> or better yet
[09:19] <tgm4883> can the windows machine ping 192.168.2.1
[09:19] <temba> yes it can
[09:19] <tgm4883> ok
[09:19] <tgm4883> can you ping www.google.com
[09:20] <tgm4883> whoops, can the linux machine ping 192.168.2.1
[09:21] <temba> linux machine can ping router and win machine
[09:21] <temba> hmm
[09:21] <tgm4883> ok
[09:21] <temba> mom i try google
[09:21] <tgm4883> can linux machine ping www.google.com
[09:23] <temba> weird
[09:23] <temba> no
[09:24] <tgm4883> ok
[09:24] <temba> it can ping the win and router
[09:24] <tgm4883> thats fine
[09:24] <temba> but not any inet address
[09:24] <temba> fine ? :d
[09:24] <tgm4883> means we need to work on the dns
[09:24] <tgm4883> are their more than 1 dns address listed on the windows machine?
[09:24] <temba> nope
[09:25] <tgm4883> hmm
[09:25] <temba> dns it get form 192.168.2.1
[09:25] <tgm4883> what kind of router?
[09:25] <tgm4883> can the linux machine ping 72.14.253.104
[09:26] <temba> yes
[09:26] <tgm4883> ok
[09:26] <tgm4883> good
[09:26] <tgm4883> so it is a dns issue then
[09:26] <tgm4883> because the ip address i gave you is to www.google.com
[09:27] <temba> uh
[09:27] <temba> heh
[09:27] <temba> resolvconf ?
[09:27] <tgm4883> what kind of router?
[09:27] <temba> smc barricade
[09:27] <temba> dsl router
[09:27] <tgm4883> i've never used resolvconf
[09:28] <tgm4883> this is kinda uncharterd for me, as i use dhcp on my network and configure everything on the router
[09:29] <temba> ah k
[09:29] <temba> hmm i can try a sudo apt-get update
[09:29] <tgm4883> probably wont work
[09:29] <tgm4883> but you can try it
[09:29] <foxbuntu> superm1_,  you around?
[09:29] <tgm4883> foxbuntu is here :)
[09:30] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, afternoon :)
[09:30] <tgm4883> just barely
[09:30] <tgm4883> 12:30 here
[09:30] <temba> dont work
[09:30] <tgm4883> figured not temba
[09:30] <temba> 21:32 here
[09:30] <foxbuntu> 14:30 here
[09:30] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, do you know much about configuring dns servers from the terminal?
[09:30] <foxbuntu> from terminal?
[09:30] <foxbuntu> hmm
[09:31] <foxbuntu> as I recall
[09:31] <tgm4883> yea, from a mythbuntu setup
[09:31] <foxbuntu> sudo nano /ect/resolv.conf
[09:31] <foxbuntu> and add them in the format shown in there
[09:32] <tgm4883> so add nameserver 192.168.0.1
[09:32] <foxbuntu> yup
[09:32] <tgm4883> nameserver 192.168.2.1
[09:32] <tgm4883> ok
[09:32] <tgm4883> get that temba?
[09:32] <tgm4883> except
[09:32] <temba> hmm
[09:32] <tgm4883> vi /etc/resolv.conf
[09:32] <tgm4883> cause foxbuntu is dyslexic sometimes
[09:32] <temba> maybe its that , i CANT find any "resolv.comnf" in /etc/
[09:33] <temba> shoudl i add it ?
[09:33] <foxbuntu> .conf perhaps?
[09:33] <tgm4883> no /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:33] <tgm4883> not comnf?
[09:33] <temba> ye
[09:33] <tgm4883> i'd just add it, as mine says it was generated by network manager
[09:33] <temba> mean cant find any "resolv.conf"
[09:34] <tgm4883> and the only thing in mine is
[09:34] <tgm4883> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[09:34] <tgm4883> so you should just add
[09:34] <tgm4883> nameserver 192.168.2.1
[09:34] <foxbuntu> won't hurt to add it and try it...however I think that file is auto gen by the interface conf
[09:35] <foxbuntu> so the root cause might be something else
[09:35] <tgm4883> heh
[09:35] <tgm4883> mine says
[09:35] <tgm4883> # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!
[09:35] <tgm4883> but we are going to edit
[09:35] <foxbuntu> like I said
[09:35] <temba> COOLIO it works now
[09:35] <temba> :D
[09:35] <tgm4883> good
[09:35] <temba> added a resolv.conf with nameserver
[09:36] <foxbuntu> good deal
[09:36] <tgm4883> so now you should be able to apt-get update
[09:36] <temba> u think apt-get update will fix the tv prob i had ?
[09:36] <temba> ok
[09:36] <tgm4883> probably not
[09:36] <temba> and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:36] <tgm4883> but we need to apt-get update
[09:36] <tgm4883> then apt-get upgrade
[09:36] <tgm4883> no
[09:36] <temba> ok
[09:36] <temba> i do
[09:36] <tgm4883> no apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <tgm4883> unless you want everything that is installed by default in Ubuntu
[09:37] <temba> ok apt-get upgrade now
[09:37] <tgm4883> yes
[09:39] <temba> the flickerign tv out is not fixable ?
[09:39] <tgm4883> well, probably not with just an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[09:39] <tgm4883> but it should be fixable
[09:51] <temba> whu
[09:51] <temba> installs the upgrades
[10:27] <temba> tgm4883 , updates installed
[10:27] <tgm4883> sweet, and you rebooted?
[10:27] <temba> what could this be, that i get only flickering on tv
[10:27] <temba> ya rebootet
[10:27] <tgm4883> describe the flickering?
[10:27] <tgm4883> is it only when playing back video?
[10:28] <temba> nope
[10:28] <temba> when i start pc screen is oke
[10:28] <temba> (bios and such messages)
[10:28] <temba> from the moment where the mythv desktop is loaded , screen only flicker
[10:28] <tgm4883> how do you connect it to the tv?
[10:28] <temba> vai s-vid from the gfx card
[10:29] <tgm4883> ok
[10:29] <tgm4883> what resolution
[10:30] <temba> i set 1280 x 1024 on install
[10:30] <tgm4883> ok
[10:30] <foxbuntu> thats too high for a TV
[10:30] <MnDBnDr> does the 20.2 package change the xorg.conf?
[10:31] <tgm4883> it may be that it is too high for svideo
[10:31] <temba> ah
[10:31] <foxbuntu> what refresh rate are you at on the TV?
[10:31] <MnDBnDr> I don't think so.  That is too high for TV
[10:31] <tgm4883> as svideo can only really do about 576i pal and 480i ntsc
[10:31] <temba> so what screen reso i have to switch to ?
[10:32] <foxbuntu> MnDBnDr, 20.2 myth package?
[10:32] <temba> 640 x 480 ?
[10:32] <tgm4883> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svideo
[10:32] <tgm4883> well 640x480
[10:32] <MnDBnDr> yeah
[10:32] <tgm4883> unless your doing widescreen
[10:32] <tgm4883> which i doubt
[10:32] <temba> where can i set this, there still no gnome desktop here
[10:32] <MnDBnDr> I don't think it does anything with xorg.conf
[10:32] <tgm4883> ok sec
[10:32] <tgm4883> !pastebin
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[10:33] <MnDBnDr> ,l
[10:33] <temba> ok i wait tgm4883
[10:33] <tgm4883> ok
[10:34] <foxbuntu> !pastebin | tgm4883
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[10:34] <foxbuntu> :P
[10:34] <MnDBnDr> he needs a xorg.conf that have tv out via svideo enabled
[10:34] <tgm4883> temba, you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:34] <tgm4883> there is a section called Screen
[10:34] <tgm4883> mine looks like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35456/
[10:34] <tgm4883> well
[10:34] <tgm4883> actually wait a sec temba
[10:35] <MnDBnDr> CTRL+ALT+F2 will get you a command prompt
[10:35] <MnDBnDr> if you have no xwindows
[10:35] <tgm4883> look into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me if you have 1 or 2 screen sections
[10:36] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, i don't suppose you have ati?
[10:36] <temba> hmm cant
[10:36] <temba> i started a video
[10:36] <temba> now ESC dont work anymore after update
[10:36] <temba> wtf !
[10:36] <temba> cant cancel the vid
[10:36] <MnDBnDr> CTRL+ALT+F2
[10:36] <temba> no respond
[10:37] <MnDBnDr> hmmmm
[10:38] <tgm4883> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[10:38] <MnDBnDr> yeah restart x
[10:38] <temba> also no response
[10:38] <tgm4883> can you ssh into the machine?
[10:38] <temba> seems update fucked something
[10:39] <temba> mom gotta reboot
[10:42] <temba> tgm4883
[10:42] <tgm4883> yes
[10:42] <temba> for what shall i search in xorg.conf
[10:43] <tgm4883> well we need to see if there are 2 screen sections
[10:43] <tgm4883> 1 for your primary display and one for the output to the tv
[10:44] <tgm4883> what kind of tv?
[10:45] <temba> normal tb
[10:45] <temba> normal tv
[10:45] <temba> i connect from s-vid to scart
[10:45] <MnDBnDr> what video card do you have
[10:46] <tgm4883> see that would be a second problem
[10:46] <tgm4883> your tv is PAL?
[10:46] <temba> my SCREEN section is like yours, but on every depth is "1024 x xxx" " xxxx x xxx" "xxx x xx"
[10:46] <temba> there is for every depth 3 resolution
[10:46] <tgm4883> right
[10:46] <temba> i have a ATI RADEON 9250 here
[10:46] <tgm4883> what video card, and what country do you live in
[10:48] <temba> video card ? no only the gfx card radeon, country DE germany
[10:48] <tgm4883> ok
[10:48] <tgm4883> sec
[10:49] <MnDBnDr> there is a good how to on Gentoo's wiki
[10:49] <MnDBnDr> for ATI
[10:49] <MnDBnDr> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out
[10:49] <tgm4883> well i don't believe that 640x480 will work for you
[10:49] <tgm4883> as i think germany is PAL
[10:50] <tgm4883> do you have 1 or 2 screens (including your TV) hooked up to your mythbox
[10:50] <MnDBnDr> I think 720x576 would do it for PAL
[10:50] <tgm4883> 720x576 only works if it is widescreen
[10:51] <tgm4883> 640x576 i believe would work though
[10:51] <MnDBnDr> oh yeah.  you are correct
[10:51] <tgm4883> sec
[10:53] <temba> only tv was connected as i tested it ago
[10:53] <tgm4883> how do you plan on using it?  with a tv and monitor attached or just a tv
[10:54] <temba> i planed to use only on tv
[10:55] <tgm4883> ok
[10:55] <tgm4883> MnDBnDr, actually I think you are right on the 720x576
[10:56] <tgm4883> temba, what you need to do then is remove the other resolutions in the screen section and in it's place, put in 720x576 so it looks like mine
[10:56] <MnDBnDr> I think 704x576 would work too.
[10:56] <tgm4883> yea
[10:56] <tgm4883> its either 720 or 704
[10:57] <tgm4883> you looking at wikipedia?
[10:57] <MnDBnDr> No
[10:57] <tgm4883> heh, i am
[10:57] <MnDBnDr> google groups
[10:57] <tgm4883> identifies a vertical resolution of 576 lines (usually with a horizontal resolution of 720 or 704 pixels)
[10:57] <tgm4883> ^ talking about 576i
[10:58] <temba> okay put them all to 720 x 576
[10:58] <tgm4883> ok
[10:58] <MnDBnDr> got this from Cisco.  With an aspect ratio of 1.33:1, 4 x 3 PAL has a standard resolution of 720 x 576 pixels
[10:58] <tgm4883> save the file as xorg.conf.new
[11:00] <superm1_> laga?
[11:01] <temba> tgm4883 umm saved as xorg.conf now,,,,,,,,,
[11:01] <tgm4883> ok
[11:01] <tgm4883> i suppose that will work, i was going to have you save your old file in case we needed to revert
[11:01] <temba> anyway gotta leave , hard tommorow, but if u like we continue tommorw
[11:02] <tgm4883> well do ctrl-alt-backspace and that should load the new settings
[11:02] <tgm4883> ok
[11:03] <Daviey> superm1_: what's the plan with the repo then?
[11:04] <superm1_> Daviey, i just got back.
[11:04] <Daviey> yah
[11:04] <tgm4883> superm1_, what is the length of support on Mythbuntu 7.10
[11:04] <superm1_> as soon as PPAs go live
[11:04] <superm1_> then we both need to clear the mirror
[11:04] <superm1_> and agree upon a regular update schedule
[11:04] <superm1_> i'll with apt-mirror it only updates changed files
[11:05] <Daviey> sorry, last statement didn't make sense
[11:05] <superm1_> when you apt-mirror a repo
[11:05] <superm1_> it only grabs new packages
[11:05] <superm1_> so we can frequently run apt-mirror in a cron
[11:06] <Daviey> yep
[11:06] <Daviey> daily should be nuff, would think
[11:06] <Daviey> also apt-mirror doesn't leave it in a mess mid-upgrade
[11:06] <Daviey> (apparently)
[11:07] <Daviey> So it won't break people's current apt-get's
[11:07] <superm1_> yea i guess daily would suffice
[11:07] <superm1_> did you work out yours so that it will always look like the structure on ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net?
[11:07] <Daviey> superm1_: can you scp me the key?
[11:07] <superm1_> Daviey, can you get a DCC?
[11:07] <superm1_> i'll send it that way
[11:07] <Daviey> erm
[11:08] <Daviey> possibly.. using irssi.. not sure what will happen
[11:08] <Daviey> try it.. possibly not the most secure way tho
[11:08] <Daviey> pgp encrypted email?
[11:08] <Daviey> or scp to my server?
[11:08] <superm1_> Daviey, what's you GPG key
[11:08] <superm1_> i'll encrypt an archive
[11:08] <Daviey> cool
[11:09] <superm1_> Daviey, key?^
[11:10] <Alowishus> If I'm currently running Myth on straight-up Feisty, will moving to Mythbuntu be an option when it goes live (as opposed to dist-upgrading to Gutsy)?
[11:10] <Daviey> superm1_: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=davewalker%40ubuntu.com&op=index
[11:10] <tgm4883> Alowishus, well, Mythbuntu is based on gutsy
[11:10] <superm1_> Alowishus, when you go to gutsy, you can install the control centre
[11:10] <superm1_> and then activate any mythbuntu items through ti
[11:10] <Alowishus> so it's really just a superset of packages for Gutsy itself then, huh?
[11:10] <Alowishus> excellent
[11:11] <tgm4883> superm1_, i think he wanted to have mythbuntu on feisty
[11:11] <Alowishus> oh no I don't mind going to Gutsy
[11:11] <superm1_> Alowishus, assuming that we get all necessary changes in before the archive closes :)
[11:11] <tgm4883> ah ok
[11:11] <Alowishus> :D
[11:11] <Alowishus> I'm just coming from a Fedora/Mythdora background where it's expected that the "special" distribution of Mythdora is basically installed from scratch and not upgraded against any of the production Fedora sources
[11:12] <Alowishus> I'm happy to see how well integrated Mythbuntu is
[11:12] <Daviey> Alowishus: early on we commited to try and get as much as possible into the offical ubuntu repo's
[11:13] <Alowishus> that's just smart ;)
[11:13] <superm1_> Alowishus, that's a big point that ircks me about these other mythtv distros that you have mythtv on the box and thats it, and you need to go through hoops to upgrade and such :)
[11:13] <Alowishus> superm1_: exactly...
[11:13] <Daviey> mythbuntu distro still makes installation easier tho, or will do when released
[11:13] <Alowishus> I thought the Feisty install was wickedly easy... testament to good packaging :)
[11:14] <Daviey> yeah.. it *shouldn't* be this easy
[11:14] <Daviey> we need to make it harder
[11:14] <Alowishus> Definite props to superm1_ and others for your quick action on 20.2 and your exceptional communication on the status, including your posts to the Forum, your bug updates on Launchpad and the Mythbuntu website
[11:14] <Alowishus> Daviey: lol
[11:14] <Alowishus> Daviey: it'll seem like we're getting more for our money!
[11:15] <Alowishus> if it's hard to install it *must* be good software
[11:15] <superm1_> Daviey, should have gotten it.  Never sent a GPG encrypted mail before.  Hopefully it went through right
[11:15] <Daviey> superm1_: recieved
[11:16] <superm1_> Thanks Alowishus. :)
[11:16] <Daviey> superm1_: worked fine :)
[11:18] <Daviey> superm1_: can you tell me how to add it?
[11:18] <superm1_> Daviey, no.
[11:18] <Daviey> boo
[11:18] <superm1_> i just wiped the .gnupg directory on axel's box
[11:18] <superm1_> and put that there instead
[11:18] <Daviey> that'll do
[11:19] <Daviey> I've got a dedicated user 'mythbuntu'
[11:20] <Daviey> so, i'll scrap the dummy key
[11:23] <Daviey> superm1_: that should be done now
[11:23] <Daviey> i386 signed
[11:23] <superm1_> Daviey, add it as a repo locally to your box
[11:23] <superm1_> now
[11:24] <Daviey> yes sir
[11:24] <superm1_> and see if you get authentication problems
[11:24] <superm1_> or if it worked
[11:24] <Daviey> Hmm.. what should i install..
[11:24] <Daviey> something that doesn't have lots of depends
[11:28] <superm1_> keescook, do i need to go through that same amount of trouble as previously SRU wise to upload a newer revision?
[11:28] <keescook> superm1_: no, I doubt it.
[11:28] <superm1_> keescook, because in #mythtv, there are 3 SD patches that need to be cherry picked in
[11:28] <superm1_> keescook, what should i do version wise though?
[11:29] <superm1_> since ~proposed1 already hit
[11:29] <keescook> superm1_: I would drop the ~proposed1
[11:29] <superm1_> and what if another ends up being needed?
[11:29] <keescook> and if further revisions are needed, just add a .1  (.7.04.1 .7.04.2 etc)
[11:29] <superm1_> ah okay
[11:29] <superm1_> like how security updates work
[11:29] <keescook> right
[11:30] <keescook> btw, I did the feisty update today, and everything still works.  I haven't figured out how to verify that SD is working, though.
[11:30] <superm1_> well if you've still got guide data, then it worked
[11:30] <Daviey> keescook: drop listings, then mythfilldatabase?
[11:31] <superm1_> because it all gets translated over
[11:31] <keescook> Daviey: that wildly frightening.  :)
[11:31] <keescook> superm1_: I do still have guide data.  :)
[11:49] <Daviey> Hmm.. somehow my UUID of my swap has changed :S
[11:52] <Daviey> superm1_: nope.. seems signing was incorrect
[11:55] <bdmurray> Daviey: really? I've seen some reports like that but don't have any idea how it happens.
[11:57] <superm1_> bdmurray, did you end up having to optimize your db?
[11:57] <superm1_> or determine what the deal was?
[11:57] <Daviey> bdmurray: naa just changed /etc/fstab to point to /dev/sdaX rather than the UUID
[12:00] <bdmurray> Daviey: right, but that is wrong I think.  You shouldn't have to do that.
[12:01] <bdmurray> keescook might know better though
[12:02] <Daviey> bdmurray: that is correct; UUID shouldn't change unless you mod the partition
[12:02] <Daviey> but ahh well.. all is good now
[12:02] <bdmurray> Daviey: right, but I wonder what the root cause of the problem is because I have seen it more than 1 time
[12:03] <keescook> Daviey: very weird.  use the new UUID in /etc/fstab just in case sda moves on you.  :)
[12:03] <bdmurray> superm1_: in the machine information part of mythweb it still says "did not insert any new data into the Guide for 1 of 1 sources."  I think I am supposed to be patient though.
[12:04] <Daviey> superm1_: yah!!!
[12:04] <Daviey> seems to be working
[12:04] <superm1_> Daviey, what'd you have to do?
[12:04] <Daviey> i forgot to add the public key
[12:04] <Daviey> doh
[12:04] <bdmurray> That might throw other people off though too though.
[12:05] <Daviey> superm1_: maybe not..
[12:05] <superm1_> keescook, ugh.  i pushed the patch to -proposed on edgy and feisty and i need to get approval by a distro manager' again :(
[12:06] <bdmurray> superm1_: my system says there is guide data until "2007-09-10 20:00" - yet after about 17:00 on 9/10 is No Data
[12:07] <superm1_> bdmurray, hopefully that sorts itself out tomorrow :)
[12:07] <bdmurray> Okay, I'll try to be more patient.
[12:09] <superm1_> Daviey, okay so it is supposed to be Release.asc in all cases then right?
[12:11] <Daviey> dunno
[12:11] <Daviey> It aint working.. i thought it was
[12:11] <superm1_> you just said it was?
[12:11] <Daviey> i thought it was.. but the package i tested it with was from universe
[12:11] <Daviey> *gutted*
[12:12] <superm1_> see falcon makes a few Release.gpg files
[12:12] <superm1_> ./base-pegasus/dists/feisty/Release.gpg
[12:12] <superm1_> is one that i see
[12:13] <superm1_> and it appears that Release.gpg is just a signature file
[12:13] <superm1_> not a full out Release file with a signature at top and bottom
[12:13] <Daviey> where does .changes come from?
[12:14] <superm1_> there is no .changes
[12:14] <superm1_> on a repo
[12:14] <Daviey> i know.. but where would they come from?
[12:14] <superm1_> i've wondered that too
[12:14] <superm1_> but never investigated
[12:15] <Daviey> cause `debsign` might be the answer - but need .changes
[12:15] <superm1_> .changes are made during debuild
[12:15] <superm1_> for a package
[12:15] <superm1_> one of the steps of debuild makes them
[12:15] <Daviey> hmm
[12:16] <Daviey> why can't ppa sign?
[12:16] <superm1_> it is a planned feature
[12:16] <superm1_> but not implemented yet
[12:17] <superm1_> that's why i want us to keep the same structure as PPA
[12:17] <superm1_> so that when it is implemented
[12:17] <superm1_> we can just be mirrors for PPA
[12:17] <Daviey> what does PPA stand for anyway?
[12:17] <superm1_> Personal Package Archives
[12:18] <superm1_> they go live later today as just said in #launchpad
[12:19] <Daviey> great
[12:19] <superm1_> unless they have any last blockers, so at latest tomorrow
[12:19] <Daviey> So, what do you submit to get it there?
[12:20] <superm1_> Daviey, sudo gpg --output $BUILD/dists/breezy/Release.gpg -ba $BUILD/dists/breezy/Release
[12:20] <superm1_> from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization/Scripts
[12:20] <superm1_> that is how to make the GPG signed releases
[12:20] <superm1_> currently two need to be made
[12:20] <superm1_> one for feisty and one for gutsy
[12:20] <superm1_> at script runtime
[12:20] <Daviey> heh.. i was just looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[12:21] <bdmurray> superm1_: incidentally I found this in my logs
[12:21] <bdmurray> [mpeg2video @ 0xb71f32e8] invalid cbp at 3 27
[12:21] <bdmurray> [mpeg2video @ 0xb71f32e8] ac-tex damaged at 1 28
[12:21] <bdmurray> [mpeg2video @ 0xb71f32e8] mb incr damaged
[12:21] <superm1_> bdmurray, during a commflag i'd guess?
[12:21] <superm1_> or possibly hd playback
[12:22] <bdmurray> superm1_: during hd playback.  I was thinking that might now be the cause of the audio blips I hear.  Does that seem reasonable?
[12:22] <superm1_> bdmurray, that is caused by a file with some corruption, very common on digital streams
[12:22] <superm1_> especially OTA
[12:23] <superm1_> if you run an mpeg2->mpeg2 transcode on the file, it will clean up most of it
[12:23] <superm1_> that can most definitely be a cause of audio 'blips'
[12:23] <superm1_> are you currently OTA, or QAM?
[12:23] <bdmurray> QAM
[12:24] <bdmurray> mplayer seems to play it fine though
[12:25] <superm1_> myth is a bit more finicky on these sorts of things, i've noticed that too
[12:25] <superm1_> which is weird since they both use ffmpeg....
[12:30] <bdmurray> How would I go about doing the transcode?
[12:31] <superm1_> from the frontend, choose the recording, and just queue up a transcode with the default settings
[12:31] <superm1_> by hitting right and picking transcode
[12:31] <superm1_> or the menu key