[01:16] superm1: did you get hold of bendailey? [01:16] Daviey, he was in yesterday [01:16] i also found out how much we've been averaging i month from polorix.net [01:16] yesterday... hmm - since i last spoke with you? [01:16] ~50gb [01:16] dang timezones [01:17] f' me! [01:17] well yesterday my time [01:17] (the only time that matters of course) [01:17] :) [01:17] UTC + 1 ftw [01:18] well anyhow. [01:18] i got somethign to work on atrpms [01:18] with i think a signed release [01:18] Mind you... when the mirrors and beta's stop coming out it should ease of a ickle [01:19] i have the pegasus gpg key [01:19] yah! [01:19] where was it? [01:19] i was smart enough to back it up to ~/.gnupg-mythbuntu :) [01:19] :) [01:19] If you sign them on the master server, i shouldn't need to aswell - just mirror, right? [01:19] exactly [01:19] winner [01:20] did you sort out a subdomain with ben? [01:20] let me try right now and make sure the signing worked then [01:20] i'm not sure if i signed the right Release files [01:21] there were two that i found that seemed like they should === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-185.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:23] na signing dind't work [01:23] i still dont know what to sign then === TelnetManta [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hendrixski [n=hendrixs@cpe-74-65-0-48.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-51-185.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kubrick.freenode.net === cann [n=cann@h88-206-148-3.vokby.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === cann [n=cann@h88-206-148-3.vokby.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hendrixski [n=hendrixs@cpe-74-65-0-48.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hendrixski [n=hendrixs@cpe-74-65-0-48.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] === OpenMedia [n=sellis@203.163.71.197] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest63 [n=Mythbunt@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jumpkick [n=GED@bas2-toronto47-1242397704.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:40] http://www.mythbuntu.org/support - typo "support support" [02:41] duplicate h1 headers === nos_f_o__ [n=nos@cpe-24-59-85-92.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@12-216-45-174.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:13] I was looking at the Mythbuntu features... Is it capable of setting up a mythtv backend/frontend/desktop (with kubuntu as desktop) with an nvidia card and separating the mythtv frontend to TV-Out and showing KDE on the monitor? [03:13] frank23, at this point, setting up a desktop isn't integrated into the installer [03:13] All with the configuration menus [03:13] its possible to do [03:14] I know how to do it by hand. I was just wondering since the installer lets you install a desktop and a frontend [03:14] Well not in installer [03:14] in the control centre [03:14] ok [03:15] that is something i'd like to explore for the future though [03:15] more advanced setups like that [03:15] ok [03:16] It already seems to offer painless mythtv backend and frontend setups. I guess that's the main thing for a mythtv distro [03:16] yea [03:16] with the control centre, you can easily add the backend and frontend roles too [03:16] to an existing desktop [03:16] through a full out gui [03:17] ok. is the control centre a separate package you could just install on a basic ubuntu/kubuntu install? [03:17] yes [03:18] i just submitted it to gutsy a few days ago [03:18] you can see some screenshots on mythbuntu.org [03:18] of what it can do [03:18] I see :) Yeah that is what I was looking at (the screenshots) [03:18] yea since we redid the site, i lost all the other screenshots and didn't take time to redo them [03:19] but since i just wrote that recently, i did screenshots for it [03:19] superm1: are there others that help you with mythbuntu? I know you also did an awful lot of work on the wiki [03:20] yea the other folks in here help out [03:20] but yea, i do put an awful lot of free time towards this project :) [03:21] In gutsy will the control centre be a dependancy of mythtv? [03:21] No. [03:21] Thanks alot on behalf of all mythtv ubuntu users! [03:21] it will be the preferred way to install things though [03:21] :) [03:21] since you can see it tries to touch upon configuring a bunch of other mythtv related items [03:22] yeah... samba, nfs and everything [03:22] in its current rendition, it replaces samba and nfs configuration (and backs up the old one), but in a later release, i'll make it act a little more cleanly [03:22] can you setup a mythweb password with the control centre? [03:23] ok [03:23] not at this point, but another thing i wanted to touch upon :) [03:23] you can via debconf though [03:23] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb [03:23] oh yeah? [03:23] nice [03:23] yea thank laga for that one [03:23] he got out a bunch of the code on it [03:24] cool [03:24] were you able to use stuff that knoppmyth created as well? [03:24] which stuff? [03:25] I have no idea.... I just know that it's one of the popular mythtv distributions. [03:25] honestly never booted it up [03:25] i downloaded a mythdora disk, but it never worked in my virtual machine [03:25] always froze the vm up [03:25] Oh heh, me neither [03:26] some day i probably should set up a box to compare us to them [03:26] and find out what they've got the edge on us over [03:27] Do you how to setup a myth frontend (or something equivalent) on windows? === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:28] don't even have a windows box in my appt [03:28] so nope [03:28] ok [03:30] superm1: well thanks for answering my questions. Maybe I'll try testing mythbuntu on my spare partition sometime. [03:30] frank23, well alpha4 will be this week [03:30] so give that a spin if anything :) [03:30] ok. Where should I report problems if any? [03:30] on launchpad.net/mythbuntu [03:30] or in here [03:32] ok [03:32] superm1: just out of curiosity, what video capture card(s) do you use? [03:33] pvr-500, air2pc hd5000, silicon dust hdhomerun, pvr-350, pvr-250mce [03:34] I have 2 pvr-150, I had a hard time getting them to work in dapper but no problems at all in feisty [03:35] i had firewire at 2 points also, but not currently [03:35] yea the goal is to make it out of the box for most cards supported [03:36] great [03:40] ivtv is in the upstream kernel now too, so for most people even in other distros things should be a lot easier [03:41] anyone update to SD yet? [03:41] rhpot1991, i have [03:42] yeah, I know. much less annoying after kernel upgrades. I still have to rebuild lirc modules everytime though. [03:42] any words of wisdom, anything I should know? [03:42] frank23, that's fixed in gutsy [03:42] rhpot1991, if you have any digital channels, make sure your call signs are set right [03:42] superm1: even better! [03:42] rhpot1991, and channel numbers [03:42] just regular cable for me [03:42] then you should have smooth saliing [03:43] 0.20.2 for feisty is in feisty-proposed now rhpot1991 [03:44] apt got them for me not sure where from though [03:44] I have the weekly mythbuntu builds in my apt now [03:44] rhpot1991, yes i added to those today too [03:45] looks like its from them [03:45] grrrr, mythfrontend still wont take itself out of my updates [03:51] you tried to remove that package and reinstall? [03:51] yep [03:51] did a complete remove from synaptec [03:51] dpkg --purged it [03:51] nothing [03:52] schedules direct seems to indicate I am under a trial, will my grab work now or do I need to pay first? [03:53] it works for 7 days [03:53] i'm still on my trial === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o superm1] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mythtv:superm1] : "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: MythTV 0.20.2 Information at http://tinyurl.com/39hgnz :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV " === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o superm1] by ChanServ [04:04] bdmurray, keescook they both cleared the buildds [04:04] if you guys want to give them a spin [04:04] please file comments in the bugs, including "Works for me" [04:05] I always seem to have a hard time getting my channel names to stick instead of "adding channel 2" === MythbuntuGuest44 [n=Mythbunt@66-188-127-42.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:09] what do you mean? [04:09] when I scan for channels [04:10] I end up losing the channel names and they end up coming up as "Adding Channel 2" "Adding Channel 3" and so on [04:10] not sure what the heck I do, but I do it every time I am in mythtv-setup [04:10] darn, broke my channel icons too === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:11] hm odd. [04:14] question for anyone, just did a fresh install of Mythbuntu, trying to get it updated and apt is going to autoremove all of the myth packages, what gives? [04:14] has to be something I do cause I remember having a problem with it before and schedulesdirect is listing my channel names [04:14] MythbuntuGuest44, that is fixed in this weeks upcoming alpha [04:14] MythbuntuGuest44, it snuck up right after alpha 3's release [04:15] MythbuntuGuest44, if you could hold off a few days, the next alpha will have mythtv 0.20.2, that fixed, and a whole slew of other things [04:15] superm1: hmmm well I guess, the box hasn't been working for a week any ways :-D [04:16] MythbuntuGuest44, watch the RSS feed on mythbuntu.org :) Thanks === Tari_ [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:18] superm1: I forgot to mention, when upgrading to the weekly build packages I did a dist-upgrade, not that it should effect anything [04:19] na it shouldn't [04:19] it just wanted to replace mythtv.20-dev with mythtv.20 or something along those lines === spinkham [n=spinkham@cpe-024-163-082-168.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [04:20] people are already using the website client [04:20] nice [04:20] now I have done it, scanning for channels is crashing my box [04:30] superm1: sweet, thanks -- good email too. I will get it checked out, but I might be a bit delayed -- I have to fix my mother-in-law's machine; her drive failed. [04:30] ouch keescook [04:30] keescook, hopefully some other motu will speak up and test now :) [04:35] bdmurray, myself, and bryce will all be testing it in sort order, have no fear. ;) [04:40] mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates: fixed my channel problem === MythbuntuGuest60 [n=Mythbunt@66-188-127-42.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:45] superm1: sorry about that, wireless went on the fritz. So in a few days a new version will be out? [04:52] do I even want ubuntu-mythtv-frontend installed? [04:52] when I have mythtv-frontend? [04:54] depends [04:55] its the meta package, no reason not to be using it [04:56] hmmmm removed the weekly builds repo and it stoped asking me to upgrade that package [04:57] rhpot1991, it should setup auto login and such [04:57] tgm4883_laptop: ya it works good and all, but the sytem wont stop updating the package === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:11] tgm4883, how goes it? [05:12] it's good foxbuntu [05:14] tgm4883_laptop, good deal [05:15] want to re-write the GTK theme for me? since I am feeling lazy [05:17] can't right now, heading out for ice cream, we have family in town right now [05:20] ah [05:20] well have fun then [05:30] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35338/ [05:30] seems ok, right? [05:31] thats from /var/log/dpkg.log btw [05:32] updated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35339/ === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:37] superm1_: this look ok to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35339/ [05:37] rhpot1991, looks right to me [05:38] well I'm stumped [05:38] i'm really not sure what can be causing your oddities with it [05:38] doesn't make sense to me [05:38] ya its just that package [05:38] if I go into synaptec and choose properties of it then view versions [05:38] I see the same version listed twice [05:39] once with "(feisty)" following it and once with "(now)" following it [05:40] when I remove the weekly build repo, it stops wanting to update it [05:40] all the rest of the myth package just have the "(fiesty)" version [05:43] just some other background info: this is happening on 2 boxes here, both had fully working mythtv installs on ubuntu feisty before I added the weekly build repos, and neither have mythbuntu installed [05:44] woah that's particularly odd. [05:44] considering my frontend has that same package installed [05:44] and no issues with it [05:44] only thing I can think of that I did obscure, is that I installed mythweather revamp from source long ago [05:45] might have some junk hanging around from that, but I don't see how it should matter [05:45] will Mythbuntu support UIRT USB? [05:45] CBiLL, what module is needed or it? [05:45] you know off hand? [05:46] lirc is one [05:46] which lirc module though [05:46] and 8.2 or above support it [05:46] let me get that info sec [05:47] http://65.36.202.170/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5584&highlight=lirc&sid=436b32a7df58bffbee73550b6f960175 [05:47] usb_uirt_raw [05:47] *cough* imbrandon *cough* [05:47] tgm4883_laptop, yea i msged him [05:47] no response [05:48] CBiLL, yes that should be supported since it looks to not be a kernel module [05:48] but rather shows up as directly by lircd [05:48] you will probably need to modify /etc/lirc/hardware.conf to point to your device [05:48] yeah MythDora said same thing and couldn't get it working 8-/ [05:48] superm1, can you save me from GTK2 Hell? [05:48] but that should be it [05:48] but I should be able to do a mode2 [05:48] and aim any remote to it right [05:48] to see if it pick up the ir [05:49] CBiLL, well in theory yes [05:49] but it doesn't =/ [05:49] i dont know if perhaps only certain remotes work with it [05:49] i know that for the hauppaugge ir sensors, you can only use hauppaugge remotes [05:49] works perfect in Windows XP hehe but I don't want Windows =/ [05:49] they dont have a spectrum to see anything else [05:49] UIRT use any remotes [05:49] I got one that support both 50mhz and 55mhz [05:50] ah okay [05:50] http://www.usbuirt.com/overview.htm [05:50] CBiLL, do you have a gutsy install right now? [05:50] or a mythbuntu install? [05:50] nope just download it now [05:50] getting ready to burn it on cd [05:50] and pop it in [05:50] CBiLL have you tried running 'irw' and aiming a device at it to see if anything is happening? [05:51] I tried in MythDora yeah [05:51] nothing [05:51] I have nother usb the SnapStream one and it works [05:51] lirc can have a few points of failure if you don't have configs set up correctly [05:51] though I only have worked with hauppauge stuff [05:51] but I needed this UIRT working too to tranmit to my cable box to change the channel on it [05:52] can lirc handle more than 1 usb tranmitter and receiver? [05:52] superm1_: do you have feisty or gusty installed? [05:52] rhpot1991, both [05:52] in multiple areas [05:52] ok hmmm [05:52] I downloaded feisty .. is that latest alpha? [05:52] mythbuntu-7.10~070801-i386 [05:52] feisty is stable [05:52] CBiLL, alpha3 is the latest, but alpha4 will be coming out later this week [05:52] 7.10 is gusty [05:52] right? [05:52] yes [05:53] gusty is the alpha? [05:53] Yes [05:53] superm1_, when are you planning on building Alpha 4? [05:53] doing this one then! I like living on bleeding edge! [05:53] foxbuntu, all i have left afaik is a lirc change [05:53] to add udev support [05:53] and a fix for lirc_serial [05:53] so probably in a day or two [05:53] and need a day or two to test it [05:53] before announce [05:53] can lirc accept more than 1 usb tranmitter and reciver plugged in? [05:54] yes but not easily in its current packaged form [05:55] superm1_, ok, I am working hard on a rebuild of the GTK garbage to get the colors to look right and be usable [05:55] okay foxbuntu hopefully you can get it in time :) [05:56] superm1_, I hope so to, but this really became a bigger deal than I though [05:56] thought* [05:58] well I just made some good progress...new butttons that are much easier to read [06:00] another important feature to me is Closed Caption or TeleText as euro calls it [06:00] CBiLL, depending on your tuner that may or may not work [06:00] it works [06:00] good too [06:00] in MythDora .. got a PVR500 [06:01] there is one feature I hope to see in MythTV one day is to write the CC in mpeg file as open caption .. ie write word directly on top of the video itself [06:02] like those movie where folks speak china but words are displayed below [06:05] 66% iso burned so far .. (this is done on an old old window computer with old cd-r player) [06:05] hehe [06:05] the main cpu is tied up as mythdora atm [06:08] rebooting .. goodbye MythDora Hello Gusty! [06:10] nice install gui btw [06:13] I am at the part where I choose a remote [06:13] does it have SnapStream Firefly remote? [06:14] brb sorry [06:14] superm1_, take a look and see what you have to say about it so far [06:14] http://imagebin.org/10115 [06:15] CBiLL, I don't believe that remote is supported [06:15] dang [06:15] can be added later then? [06:16] Mythbuntu currently only has support for the remotes supported upstream by Lirc [06:16] snapstream is supported in MythDora on lirc [06:16] right out of box [06:16] the remote? [06:17] yes [06:17] and the usb tranmitter/reciver that come with it [06:17] well i got the conf for it [06:17] so I should just plop it in then? [06:20] very nice remote btw [06:20] RF signal [06:20] no need to aim [06:20] I use a universal RF that I trained off my base remote from the PVR150 [06:21] um..send me the config @ nickj.fox@gmail.com [06:21] for the snapstream? [06:21] yea [06:21] ok sec need to reboot back into Mytdora and get it [06:21] and I will try to add it to my list of to-do [06:21] and build support for it [06:21] cool [06:22] it come with a usb RF Tx/Rx [06:22] nice [06:22] it very nice remote [06:22] perfect for mythtv [06:22] I have heard good things about it [06:23] http://www.snapstream.com/products/firefly/ [06:23] I just use a hauppauge remote for my main box, and an all for one programed to work as a hauppauge for my other frontend [06:23] My universal is nice too [06:23] works well with my mythbox [06:24] problem I am having is that I got the uirt to transmit to my cable box but I can't seem to get both firefly usb tx/rx and uirt tx/rx to work with same lirc heck I can't get uirt working yet [06:24] okay i'm back [06:24] so what was questions now? [06:24] snapstream should be listed in the installer i believe [06:24] none for me yet 8-P [06:24] oh [06:24] didn't see it [06:24] http://imagebin.org/10115 [06:24] superm1_, take a look [06:24] hrmm let me reboote it when I get that config out [06:24] for foxbuntu [06:24] CBiLL, thanks [06:25] foxbuntu, i dont see any gtk dialogs there [06:25] superm1_ are you using feisty_proposed on your feisty box(es)? [06:25] superm1_, I am going to add the Snapstream buttons and config into the lirc gen. [06:25] rhpot1991, i'm using the weekly builds [06:25] feisty proposed just opened up today :) [06:25] superm1_, notice the buttons [06:25] I just completly removed all mythtv packages and purged them, started to install fresh and I am still getting it constantly wanting to upgrade [06:25] i tested feisty proposed in my virtual machine [06:25] hey do you want the whole mythdora conf for all the remote they support zipped up? [06:25] well for the rest of the system [06:25] I will get you better sreens in a min [06:25] thats about the only ubuntu repo I don't have turned on [06:26] this is drive me crazy, it makes absolutely no sense [06:26] CBiLL, ah it would appear that upstream lirc doesn't have a config listed in their lirc hardware database [06:26] i was thinking streamzap [06:26] yeah I saw that [06:27] but it's snapstream =/ [06:27] but you use the USB UIRT Receiver [06:27] do you not? [06:27] yes for tranmitting to the cable box to change channels [06:27] superm1_, we can add that config to our DB can't we and submit an upstream patch with it in there? [06:28] snapstream to control mythtv [06:28] CBiLL, what kernel module does snapstream use? [06:28] UIRT is not just receiver [06:28] superm1_ that what I am doing right now .. looking in lirc conf doesn't seem to use any module [06:28] okay well what driver does lircd use then? [06:29] I don't know about drivers fully yet but it doesn't seem to be using any [06:29] well lirc has support for native "drivers" that dont need kernel modules [06:30] or for devices that need to use a kernel module too === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:30] would it be in lirc.conf? [06:32] i dont know anything about mythdora's config files [06:32] so i couldnt tell you [06:39] email sent foxbuntu [06:39] thanks CBiLL [06:39] zipped up all the supported remote conf file [06:40] the file are named based on remote it supported and basically you rename it to lirc.conf I think and put it in /etc/ [06:40] for whatever remote you want to support [06:40] but trying to determine how it support the usb device that come with snapstream [06:41] I think lirc latest driver support it out of box as well too [06:41] CBiLL, you can see what kernel modules are used via lsmod [06:41] typically lirc_* [06:41] ok [06:41] lirc_atiusb [06:41] lirc_dev [06:42] that it [06:42] wonder if it the atiusb that support the snapstream [06:43] well try it [06:43] will Mythbuntu let me recomplie lirc if I had to? [06:43] CBiLL, the lirc_atiusb module is shipped [06:44] you shouldn't need to [06:44] ok cool [06:44] so just slap in the right /etc/lirc.conf and it should work hopefully then [06:44] so what do I pick at the remote part when it ask me which remote to support? choose no remote? [06:45] CBiLL, choose the ati remote [06:45] ok [06:45] and it will load the atiusb module [06:45] you can reconfigure remotes at any time with sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc [06:46] or you can overwite the chosen lircd.conf by dropping it in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf [06:46] I will be new to sudo but I am a fast learner thou === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: MythTV 0.20.2 Information at http://tinyurl.com/39hgnz :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV " === Topic (#ubuntu-mythtv): set by superm1 at Tue Aug 28 04:00:48 2007 [06:49] (CBiLL/#ubuntu-mythtv) there 2 ATI to choose from [06:50] the first one seem to have the same driver choosen by MythDora as well too [06:52] hrmm for PVR 500 I choose Hauppauge PBR-XXX Series Card and set it to 2 tuners and choose the second one again same string? === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:53] hrmm 2 of superm1 hehe [06:54] my laptop froze when switching displays when i docked [06:54] so the other one isn't me [06:54] its a ghost [06:54] ah [06:54] hrmm for PVR 500 I choose Hauppauge PBR-XXX Series Card and set it to 2 tuners and choose the second one again same string? [06:54] don't worry about tuner selection [06:54] ok [06:54] well it choosen [06:54] in that alpha it doesnt do anything [06:54] the firmware finder backend wasnt done [06:54] alright [06:55] it formatting partitons now [06:55] I choose to let it do it for me using the entire disk [06:56] graphic could use some work and I would sear clear from Windows 3.1 looks =P [06:57] you mean the GTK theme? [06:57]