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[02:34] so that you don't have to install drivers on each boot === ysth1 [n=ysth@70-56-81-69.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === swj [n=steven@c-69-138-105-119.hsd1.ms.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:45] is it appropriate to talk about ubuntu art here? === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === doug1 [n=Administ@bdsl.66.12.249.106.gte.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ggilbert [n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:47] Why would the NetworkManagerDispatcher process take up 100% cpu usage for about 2 to 5 min every time I boot? [02:47] Can some1 help me find more information to submit a bug report, I don't quite know what to report here [02:52] AnRkey: try looking at dmesg for entries relating to NM [02:52] thanks [02:53] sheesh, it's only just stopped raping the CPU now [02:53] lol, you might find some sort of cryptic message in that log that you can put in a bug [02:54] 'dmesg | less' will make it easier to read [02:56] have a look in /var/log/syslog too, that's where I've found NM entries [02:56] looking now === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-40-79.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cps1966 is now known as binky === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:02] ok /var/log/messages has 2 lines about kernel something or others with eth1 [03:02] dmesg returned wireless card killswitch errors [03:02] AnRkey: interestingly, my syslog has 15 seconds worth of NM retries and warnings because dhcdbd isn't running, eventually it works but I have a 2,5mb syslog file [03:02] and so did var/log/syslog [03:03] sheesh [03:03] don't have your problem though so I guess it's something different [03:03] well i have tailed 100 lines of each into output files that I will submit as a bug [03:03] maybe they can work with me on it [03:03] hopefully [03:04] it's a dell laptop [03:04] so hold thumbs === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-40-79.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:04] xps m170 [03:04] nice [03:04] yeah and i have to give it back to the company i work for in 3 months cause i am leaving [03:04] soooo sad [03:05] at least it was used [03:05] and at least it was happy while it had ubuntu on it [03:05] poor thing [03:05] some winblows user will get it next [03:05] thanks vor the help mattyv === binky [n=kane@204.183.116.161] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [03:07] no probs, wish I could provide more help but I'm no programmer [03:11] I think I can at least submit now === stdin [i=stdin@pdpc/supporter/active/stdin] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:14] mattyv, found the bug, it's listed with very little info though [03:14] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/123332 [03:14] Launchpad bug 123332 in network-manager "NetworkManagerDispatcher uses 100% CPU on startup" [Undecided,New] [03:14] thanks ubotu u sexy bot === macaco [n=macaco@201.249.119.196] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:20] Hello again.. [03:21] how i configure compiz to work fine [03:23] .oO(some like it rough) === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [03:26] ? [03:27] AnRkey: Good work, I'll have a look [03:28] macaco, thats a very broad question mate [03:28] u running gutsy? [03:28] yes i runing gutsy 32bit [03:29] fully updated? [03:29] and did you upgrade from feisty to gutsy or did you do a fresh install? [03:29] fresh [03:29] good [03:29] nvidia, ati or intel graphics [03:30] or other? [03:30] i enable accelerate Nvidia and work corrrect [03:30] good [03:30] but wen some effect and widnows manager don't working [03:30] AnRkey: also attach your lspci -vv to that bug report [03:30] then go to System > Preferences > Appearance [03:31] mattyv, will do that now [03:31] lspci? [03:31] macaco, then click Desktop Effects [03:31] lists your hardware i detail so the devs know exatcly what networking gear you have [03:31] try normal [03:31] if that works then try extra effects [03:32] how? [03:32] mattyv, shweet thanks [03:32] macaco, did you do what i said above? [03:32] yes [03:32] System > Preferences > Appearance > Desktop Effects [03:32] enable extra effects [03:33] but whre i am in CompizConfig Setting now [03:33] macaco, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager [03:33] do that from console [03:33] the settings-manager is in System > Prefferences === happyface [n=Dave@d36-116-216.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allorder [n=allorder@bas1-sthubert21-1096612075.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:34] sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager [03:34] and say [03:34] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [03:34] :O [03:34] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [03:35] close any other package manager [03:35] ok [03:35] sorry :P [03:35] no prob [03:35] :D [03:35] then for extra toys in the settings-manager you can run sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra [03:35] have fun [03:35] Reading package lists... Done [03:35] Building dependency tree [03:35] Reading state information... Done [03:35] compizconfig-settings-manager is already the newest version. [03:35] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [03:35] already have lol [03:36] :D === qid [n=david@pdpc/supporter/student/qid] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:36] and i install GT desktop two [03:36] anyone know where I can get the wireless tools packages for gutsy 7.10? I'm attempting to follow the suggested workaround here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/50214/comments/48 [03:36] Launchpad bug 50214 in network-manager "can't connect to hidden network" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:37] qid, have u tried looking for it with apt-cache search packagenamehere [03:37] AnRkey: once you get that attachment up, confirm the bug by clicking where it says "status new". So far it's only been confirmed in comments so no dev will notice it [03:38] ok [03:38] thanks [03:38] AnRkey: it's in there, but I'd assume it's the 7.04 version instead [03:39] evening everyone [03:40] qid: https://packages.ubuntu.com/ ? [03:40] can't connect to that site [03:40] is there an additional source or something like that I have to add to get 7.10 packages? [03:41] is ok that i install GL desktop 2???' [03:41] qid: try without the 's' in https:// and see [03:42] I was used to launchpad which is https:// [03:43] why? [03:43] are the effects working? [03:44] qid, have u tried it? [03:45] if it's in the gutsy repo it might work [03:45] or post a quetion on the bug [03:47] yeah, I found wireless-tools and libiw29 in the gutsy packages, installing now and I'll see if it works [03:48] how add in my session compiz [03:49] macaco: wanna add it to start when logging in? === mssnlayam [n=suriya@cpe-66-68-140-142.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:53] I upgraded to Gusty, looks like there is some problem with cups-pdf. Please take a look at this bash session and offer your thoughts. Thanks. http://dpaste.com/17988/ [03:54] mssnlayam, one sec [03:55] mssnlayam: configure problem big time with cups... :P [03:55] :) [03:55] mssnlayam, had the same problem today [03:55] so, I guess a bug has already been reported? [03:56] mssnlayam, sudo apt-get remove --purge cups-pdf [03:56] then if cups-pdf caused the upgrade to fail u can run [03:57] sudo apt-get -f install [03:57] the upgrade got over, that is my understanding === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:57] to finish the upgrade [03:57] run this [03:57] sudo apt-get -f install [03:57] u can then try sudo apt-get install cups-pdf [03:58] the configure problem was only an upgrade problem [03:58] if u install it from scratch it should work === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [03:58] all right, removed cups-pdf, did apt-get -f install === larson9999 [n=larson@74-129-100-183.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:59] mssnlayam, what did -f install do? [03:59] and now I am doing "apt-get install cups-pdf" and get the same error [03:59] ok then remove it and try again if a week or so [04:00] output of removing and -f install http://dpaste.com/17990/ [04:00] can i client running gutsy log in via xdmcp to a server running fiesty? [04:00] so, should I report a bug? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:04] wonderful, the new network-manager requires a libc6 upgrade... which probably means upgrading half of everything to gutsy === darkstar61 [n=darkstar@213-140-6-100.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:05] larson9999: you mean connecting to a feisty server? [04:06] AnRkey: Thanks :) === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nickrud [n=nickrud_@adsl-69-230-163-196.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:07] scizzo-, yeah, via xdmcp from a gutsy client [04:07] scizzo-, i can see the machine but it won't log in. works just fine from fiesty though [04:07] larson9999: ok....you get any error? [04:08] nope. just when i click connect instead of giving me the login dialog for the server it gives me the dialog for the client === mssnlayam [n=suriya@cpe-66-68-140-142.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:09] what are people using for hot keys under compiz/emerald? [04:09] larson9999: hmmm....sounds strange [04:10] nickrud: standard... :) [04:11] scizzo-, hm, my metacity command bindings aren't working ... not suprising since metacity isn't running [04:11] nickrud: you are running the desktop effects? normal one? [04:12] compiz --replace , emerald --replace [04:13] nickrud: what hotkeys are you tryint to use? [04:13] scizzo-, I normally have super-t for a terminal at 80x50; it's the only one I really want back [04:14] nickrud: not sure then.....if its a setup you are trying to do yourself then I dont know really [04:14] nickrud: check the settings for compiz in the preferences maybe? [04:15] nickrud: might find something there [04:16] scizzo-, did a quick look, didn't see anything in either the gnome-compiz-manager or compizconfig-settings-manager . But, I look closer [04:18] nickrud: yeah I am not 100% sure myself so === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:18] anyone can confirm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player/+bug/135358 [04:18] Launchpad bug 135358 in vmware-player "vmware-player uninstallable" [Undecided,New] [04:18] for me please? [04:18] scizzo-, I did a dpkg -L on comizconfig-settings-manager, and there's an svg called category-key-bindings, so I think I will find it somewhere :) [04:19] nickrud: nice.. :) [04:20] scizzo-, general settings, buried under there. I was looking at the surface [04:21] nickrud: hehe that usually is the case...good to have found it now though... ;) === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:22] scizzo-, yeah, I got a bit impatient. But I've got a decent working compiz on an ati 200 express, so I'm more than happy [04:22] compiz, bah. Real Men use xmonad and like it! [04:22] vlowther: tvm === qid [n=david@pdpc/supporter/student/qid] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:24] twm is sufficient, really === mssnlayam [n=suriya@cpe-66-68-140-142.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:25] bah, too much window decoration === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:26] I get the following message from the kernel http://dpaste.com/17991/ my logfiles are getting filled :) === jack__ [n=jack@pool-71-114-128-205.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jack__ is now known as chrisjs169 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-40-79.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:29] mssnlayam: this is flooded in dmesg also? [04:29] yes [04:30] mssnlayam: you wouldn't happen to have a serial device plugged to the machine? [04:30] like? [04:31] is a USB mouse a serial device? [04:31] no [04:31] then no, no serial device added [04:31] you have any hardware that is not recognized maybe... [04:31] check with lspci if everything seems ok there... [04:32] looks okay to me [04:32] is anyone having problems with their extensions not working? === mbt [n=mbt@c-24-99-212-117.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:33] Anyone here use Thunderbird and experiencing a memory corruption issue with glibc? [04:33] mssnlayam: try to use tail -f /var/log/dmesg [04:33] scizzo-, is this related to LVM? [04:34] mssnlayam: hmmm raid? [04:34] mon^rch: extensions for what, firefox? [04:34] yeah [04:34] I am thing about dist-upgrading and I need them to work [04:34] thinking [04:34] mssnlayam: the error is about input/output to a driver device anyway [04:35] scizzo-: /var/log/dmesg remains the same, the output of dmesg changes every time, and /var/log/syslog keeps growning [04:35] mssnlayam: right...hmmm...hardware stuff...hard to know what exactly is going wrong here... [04:35] http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=110717904304319&w=2 [04:36] something got to do with raid, will try to disable some service and see [04:36] mon^rch: All good here, but I'm mainly using GranParadiso [04:36] mon^rch: I should also say, 2.0.0.6 is still standard on Gutsy, so you should be fine [04:37] http://www.google.com/search?q=dm-linear+device+lookup+failed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a looks like a lot of people have it [04:37] mssnlayam: maybe a general kernel problem [04:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evms/+bug/115616 [04:37] Launchpad bug 115616 in evms "Device-mapper errors: dm-linear, lookup failed" [High,In progress] [04:37] :) [04:37] yepp [04:38] cool, so people are on top of this [04:38] mssnlayam: most of the time they are... === sycho [n=sycho@pool-72-70-155-71.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:39] doesn't hurt to say have one more nice thing said about the community [04:40] mssnlayam: hehe === tretle [n=tretle@213-202-176-99.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:40] is anyone here using empathy? [04:40] hah! and network manager Works For Me, finally! === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:42] or if anyone could recommend a multi-protocol telepathy instant messenger which supports voice + video chat? === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:43] telepathy? o.O [04:43] tretle: ekiga? [04:43] ekiga can't read your mind [04:43] based off of telepathy? [04:44] tretle: google? [04:44] http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/ [04:45] but I was wondering if there is any that might not be listed there [04:45] banter looks like it covers all of the requirements but its not in the official repos [04:45] and I cant find a deb or repo for it === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mssnlayam [n=suriya@cpe-66-68-140-142.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:47] there is a ubuntu site about it [04:47] link? [04:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/IM/DesktopIntegrationSIPIM?action=show&redirect=MOTUIM%2FDesktopIntegrationSIPIM [04:48] old site though [04:48] is debian dieing? i know this is ot.. but someone in here surely has a few cents on the subject ;) [04:48] ian left for sun.. wondering if he had cranky pants over ubuntu [04:49] snadge: old news [04:49] snadge: doesnt mean that its dying really [04:49] telepathy on ubuntu is practically non existent [04:49] yeah i know its old news, just wondering what the relevance/impact of that will be [04:49] the choice is telepathy [04:49] when banter is by far better [04:50] sorry " the choice is empathy [04:50] not telepathy [04:50] you know what i mean [04:50] :D === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Random832 [n=random@c-69-136-185-145.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:51] i havnt been following the politics.. just know that obviously ubuntu has stolen the thunder.. and its based on debian.. leaving a kind of interesting situation [04:52] kind of like a parasite thats slowly killing its host ;) [04:53] the people that use Debian would never even consider touching Ubuntu. Same goes the other way. [04:55] i still use debian on my production web server [04:55] but ubuntu for everything else.. including dev === mssnlayam [n=suriya@cpe-66-68-140-142.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:03] but basically mark shuttleworth has taken debian in the direction that I always wanted it to go.. the power and correctness (in policy, licensing etc) of debian.. but made accessable to ordinary (or lazy like me) people :) [05:04] remove some arrogance, add a whole load of stupidity.. voila hehe === luc__ [n=luc@DSL01.83.171.172.40.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === forevertheuni [n=antibody@87-196-89-113.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:17] i'm searching like cray [05:17] crazy* [05:17] does anyone has a gusty .deb with wine 0.9.44 [05:18] it's too much time to a compile === genii [n=user@206-248-135-210.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Spaceman3750 [n=chatzill@63-252-73-208.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:18] forevertheuni, I do === Spaceman3750 [n=chatzill@63-252-73-208.ip.mcleodusa.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:19] wine does take a good amount of time to compile though [05:19] Why would you bother? Feisty packages work just fine. [05:19] they're 2 versions old [05:19] I'm curious why Gutsy Kubuntu cd install makes weird prepends to menu items, something like _:menu item kmenu: Whereas apt-get install kubuntu-desktop doesn't [05:20] Arwen, long time since I dcc'd something from Irc :D [05:20] forevertheuni, of course, I made them myself, so don't trust me [05:20] I can send you the source packages too if you don't trust them [05:20] Arwen, it's ok === mbt [n=mbt@c-24-99-212-117.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:20] tnx :D [05:20] damn eve-online new patch.. [05:21] doesn't work with cedega [05:21] hint: to run Windows applications, you should use Windows [05:21] :-) [05:21] Arwen: I agree === brmassa [n=brmassa@201-26-123-250.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:22] guys, im using kubuntu gutsy. i installed flash but my konqueror is crashing every single page where there is flash. [05:22] Anyopne else experiencing the _:menu item kmen: thing or is it just me? [05:22] bleh typos [05:24] brmassa: adobe flash plugin or gnash? [05:24] mattyv: adobe [05:24] Anyhow this is with Tribe 5 kubuntu CD, md5 check was fine. If I install Gnome Tribe 5 then do the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop the menu items appear as normal. === keram [i=jdegges@cpe-76-87-180-5.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:24] konqueror, in fact, detect a flash page on the very first time and offer to install the adobe one automatically [05:25] Arwen, na..I have no windows [05:25] that's a shame, it's a good thing to have [05:25] let's the sun in for one [05:25] O.o uh? [05:26] brmassa: I think there is a bug report about it krasching when using flash player [05:26] some years ago I decided I would only have software I payed for in my computer [05:26] so..I aint giving one euro to m$ [05:26] Must be an expensive proposition [05:26] scizzo, yes, there is. but no solution there. [05:27] forevertheuni, that doesn't make sense. So you bought Ubuntu? === dwidmann [n=blackwal@dpc67142237054.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:27] Did GNU make drastic changes to glibc or something? [05:27] brmassa: have you updated the system today? [05:27] and hint: there's no such thing as m$ [05:27] mbt: I don't think so, why? [05:27] "m$" is a really really lame, overused attempt at humor. [05:27] SeveredCross, Because after upgrading, I am getting lots of crashes seemingly caused by glibc detecting memory corruption... [05:27] At least saying something like "Winderz" is somwehat funny. [05:27] And the same versions of some of this software on Feisty had no such problem. [05:28] Weird...I haven't seen any issues like that myself. [05:28] 31337 [05:28] is also over used [05:28] Doing things like opening mail messages in Thunderbird, and the like. I was able to fix some, but not all, of the problem, by moving my old ${HOME} and starting over. :-/ [05:28] Arwen, bah...software that costs money [05:28] Arwen, late here [05:28] insognia [05:28] Cedega costs money >_> [05:28] insomnia* [05:29] Arwen, and I payed for [05:29] scizzo, doing this right now! [05:29] brmassa: ok [05:29] brmassa: cause someone updated his plugins today and seemed to have fixed it [05:29] that's 'paid' to you :-) [05:29] brmassa: not sure though....might still be broken.....problem with dev releases you know... :D [05:30] wtf..the download didn't save? [05:30] what client? [05:30] xchat [05:30] :/ === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:30] oh..went to ~ [05:30] look in ~/.xchat2/downloads [05:31] brmassa: could you post a link to a site that made konqueror crash? [05:31] brmassa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/128308 [05:31] Launchpad bug 128308 in kdebase "[gutsy] konqueror freezes when viewing flash (dup-of: 127944)" [Undecided,New] [05:31] Launchpad bug 127944 in openoffice.org "[gutsy] Open Office applications don't start " [High,Fix released] [05:31] T. Now that's cooler than numbers. [05:32] lol @ DanaG [05:32] bug 128308 [05:32] bug #128308 [05:32] Dammit post the link you stupid bot. [05:32] darkstart61, every flash site. [05:32] Oh someone did already. [05:32] LOL [05:32] youtube for eaxample [05:32] Just look it up on launchpad [05:33] ops... darkstar61 [05:33] Where's the "go to specific bug number" box on Launchpad? === wastrel [n=wastrel@nylug/member/wastrel] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:34] brmassa: it works fine for me... [05:34] is there going to be a way to easily disable gnome network manager in gusty? [05:34] forevertheuni, oh yeah, by the way, I was talking about the windows in your house earlier :-) [05:34] they're nice to have [05:34] that's a feature request if not :] [05:34] brmassa: i'm on a gutsy fully upgraded... === AdrianaFox [n=bcmodder@static24-72-75-37.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:34] im updating now. === AdrianaFox [n=bcmodder@static24-72-75-37.regina.accesscomm.ca] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] [05:34] wastrel, system -> prefs -> sessions -> startup [05:34] maybe thats it [05:34] Arwen, oh :D :/ [05:34] just try to do todays upgrade and then try to reproduce the problem [05:34] lol [05:34] it should just have a "remove and disable" option in the menu though [05:35] Arwen, I tend to have big door [05:35] doors* [05:35] :d [05:35] Arwen: i also want to disable the daemons :] just to be spiteful [05:35] (MS Windows is also nice to have, but that'd get me flamed here) [05:35] :-P [05:35] I wonder if my issues are 64-bit specific. [05:35] wastrel, ps -e | grep network returns no processes [05:35] so I think you're ok [05:35] grep Network [05:35] oh, capitalized :-\ [05:38] Arwen: (I suppose you need something to fill all that extra hdd space :P) [05:38] brmassa: http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3442/testyoutubewu9.jpg [05:38] extra? I'm at 99% usage, lol [05:38] darkstar61: let him test after he has upgraded his installation [05:39] wastrel, you can do a apt-get remove network-manager [05:39] yep... [05:39] so it would appear === brmassa_ [n=brmassa@201-26-122-241.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:42] scizzo and darkstar61, its working! thanks [05:42] WEE! [05:42] good [05:43] apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade owns [05:43] :P === genii sips his beer [05:49] good job on gusty guys, so far [05:50] it is looking sweet [05:50] !aptitude [05:50] aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide [05:50] I like it better. === sayers [n=steven@c-76-20-182-119.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:50] however, i have to wipe it clean :( gonna try out mce i may upgrade my 7.04 to 7.10t5 though [05:51] 6 os's and counting, lol [05:51] dfgas: positively... i do a fresh gutsy install on a test box and until now no major bad issues... [05:51] i have none yet either [05:51] its kickarse [05:52] but after seeing mce at a local computer store, i must mess with it till i like it, then i will get another system for it. [05:52] i'm only waiting for the kde4/oxygen things... :) [05:54] i want to mess with kde4 as well === mluser-work [n=mluser@ip68-0-70-23.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:55] is there a repository for installing freenx in gusty? [05:56] unlikely === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:01] mluser-work: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ? [06:01] darkstar61: thank you [06:02] mluser-work: i don't tested it, so it could not work... [06:03] I'm trying it now.. === darkstar61 apologize for his rustic english... === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1C91E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:08] it seems I dont know how to add the gusty repo's.. changing feisty to gusty is not enough === ysth1 [n=ysth@70-56-81-69.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:11] mluser-work: i guess freenx is stopped to feisty, on that repo... sorry [06:11] Uh. [06:11] First, make sure you spell it right. [06:12] Gutsy not gusty. [06:12] And then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade should be good. [06:12] oh.. hehe, thanks === mssnlayam [n=suriya@cpe-66-68-140-142.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === cwillu [n=cwillu@S01060011952cd2e5.ss.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === jfluhmann_ [n=jfluhman@69.39.58.85] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arooni [n=arooni__@c-67-183-138-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:20] is it possible to see when a package has been installed? does dpkg/apt store the install date somewhere? [06:21] vega-: probably in the dpkg log, /var/log/dpkg.log === homerhomer [n=homer@c-76-115-1-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:24] hey all, I was wondering is gutsy noticeably faster feisty? [06:24] oops [06:24] hey all, I was wondering is gutsy noticeably faster THAN feisty? [06:24] homerhomer: how you mean faster? [06:25] hmm that's funny i read it right the first time lol [06:25] That's because English is a predictable language. [06:25] stdin: yep, there it is, thanks [06:25] You know what should be there, so your brain just fills it in. [06:25] just very vaguely, like overall - the bootup, gnome log in [06:25] It does feel a mite faster to me but I really don't know. [06:26] desktop responsiveness [06:26] I think the kernel is tickless which I've heard may help out a bit. [06:26]