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asac | hmm what was the name of the hildonized calculator again? | 03:14 |
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asac | Mithrandir: there? | 03:55 |
Mithrandir | asac: I am. | 03:55 |
asac | Mithrandir: cool ... do we have a simple packaged application in gutsy that integrates with hildon properly? | 03:56 |
asac | e.g. menus are of concern here? | 03:56 |
Mithrandir | tasks should be an example. | 03:57 |
asac | Mithrandir: whats the package/binary name? | 03:57 |
Mithrandir | tasks | 03:57 |
asac | is it hildonized on lpia only ... or everywhere? | 03:58 |
Mithrandir | shouldonly be on lpia | 03:58 |
Mithrandir | s/d/d / | 03:58 |
asac | hmm ok ... so maybe thats the reason ... | 03:59 |
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asac | Mithrandir: carl told me we have a hildon expert/dev here in channel ... who is that? | 04:01 |
Mithrandir | asac: tko, I believe, for instance. | 04:02 |
asac | tko: ping :) | 04:03 |
asac | Mithrandir: is there a way to just start the hildon-panel? | 04:09 |
asac | e.g. DISPLAY=:1 hildon-panel (doesn't exist unfortunately) | 04:10 |
Mithrandir | just the marquee? | 04:11 |
Mithrandir | it's in-process of hildon-desktop, iirc | 04:11 |
asac | ok let me purge and reinstall hildon-desktop again :) | 04:11 |
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asac | Mithrandir: hmm i think i am doing something wrong as all looks pretty broken anyway, but anyway ... tasks still has the normal top-level menu here | 04:16 |
Mithrandir | I don't have any lpia chroots set up here, and my connectivity isn't the best, so I can't really help you, sorry. | 04:19 |
asac | Mithrandir: same for agoliveira ? | 04:20 |
asac | you are at sprint, right? | 04:20 |
dholbach | asac: yeah | 04:20 |
agoliveira | asac: We all are | 04:20 |
agoliveira | asac: The task built worked for me locally but I wasn able to test the lpia built yet and right now is kind of hard. | 04:21 |
asac | agoliveira: i start matchbox-window-manager + hildon desktop + tasks ... however tasks still has normal menus | 04:21 |
asac | and in lpia chroot all is broken, while the amd64 version of hildon-desktop at least has some items in its panel | 04:21 |
asac | agoliveira: so we still don't have any application that is hildonized in gutsy? | 04:22 |
Mithrandir | asac: why are you starting matchbox-window-manager by hand? | 04:22 |
agoliveira | asac: no and we won't | 04:22 |
asac | Mithrandir: because everything else is just broken | 04:22 |
agoliveira | asac: All the hildonized applications are going into lpia only. | 04:22 |
asac | Mithrandir: if i start-hildon ... for instance | 04:23 |
asac | agoliveira: yes thats fine ... but is there any? | 04:23 |
agoliveira | should be tasks, contacts-snapshot, dates, cheese and claws (this one didn't make, don know why yet) | 04:23 |
agoliveira | asac: I'm afraid I'll not be able to look at this until later or tomorrow. | 04:24 |
asac | agoliveira: dates? no package i can see | 04:24 |
agoliveira | asac: Yes, I just checked and dates also didn't make it yet. | 04:25 |
asac | ok i install cheese ... my last hope | 04:25 |
Mithrandir | asac: uh, no. Use xhost +SI:localuser:root in your normal system, then DISPLAY=:0 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /usr/bin/Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 1024x600x32 96 -ac with xserver-xephyr installed in the chroot. | 04:25 |
Mithrandir | that's the right way to start the UI. | 04:25 |
asac | Mithrandir: why isn't that codified somewhere? is that new? | 04:26 |
asac | but let me try ;) | 04:26 |
Mithrandir | it's been that way for two weeks, and it's been posted to the mailing list. | 04:26 |
Mithrandir | the docs aren't updated because nobody has taken the time to do so. | 04:27 |
asac | sure | 04:27 |
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asac | Mithrandir: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2007-August/thread.html ... what post was that in? | 04:30 |
Mithrandir | my bandwidth here is quite limited, it's better if you look yourself. | 04:31 |
asac | i can't find it | 04:31 |
asac | then nevermind | 04:31 |
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ian_brasil | Mithrandir: i must have missed this post too. | 04:41 |
ian_brasil_ | it is this one i think https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2007-August/000786.html | 04:43 |
asac | ian_brasil_: thanks | 04:44 |
ian_brasil_ | i will update the docs | 04:44 |
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ian_brasil | Mithrandir: what was the command on the host again?...something like xhost + localhost:root ?? | 04:59 |
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asac | ian_brasil: he told me: xhost +SI:localuser:root | 05:03 |
asac | ian_brasil: but for me it doesn't work ... i lack some font packages i think | 05:03 |
asac | ian_brasil: btw, i had to use xhost + (not the one above) ... otherwise it couldn't connect | 05:04 |
ian_brasil | asac: thx...i will try it out now | 05:05 |
asac | ian_brasil: let me know :/ | 05:05 |
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asac | ian_brasil: i am really stuck here atm ;) | 05:06 |
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ian_brasil | i am getting a connection refused error which is more encouraging | 05:07 |
asac | yeah ... try xhost + | 05:07 |
ian_brasil | yes, that works but it opens my x session up to the world | 05:12 |
asac | ian_brasil: you use a image-creator created chroot? | 05:12 |
asac | ian_brasil: have you replaced localuser with your real localuser? | 05:13 |
asac | e.g. xhost +SI:ian_brasil:root | 05:13 |
ian_brasil | asac: i installed manually following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/HildonDesktopManualProcedure | 05:14 |
asac | ian_brasil: hmm ok that might work for me as well as my amd64 install works a bit at least | 05:14 |
asac | ian_brasil: or do you use lpia architecture? | 05:14 |
ian_brasil | no i am not using lpia | 05:15 |
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asac | ian_brasil: problem is that there are no hildonized apps if not in lpia atm (i just got that info from agoliveira) | 05:15 |
agoliveira | ian_brasil: This procedure is a bit outdated and will not give you the lattest pieces and bits. You should use the image creator if possible. | 05:16 |
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mjg59 | Yes, we don't want to package hildonised apps separately | 05:16 |
mjg59 | Which means they'll only end up in lpia | 05:16 |
Hobbsee | agoliveira: were there any other packages that you needed a UVFe for, while i'm at it? | 05:17 |
agoliveira | Hobbsee: Sorry but I'm not sure right now. We're a sprint here and I'm a bit disconnected to the applications. | 05:20 |
Hobbsee | agoliveira: no problem. enjoy. | 05:21 |
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ian_brasil | if i use $ xhost + does the -ac parameter to Xephyr override the world access to the xsession? | 05:25 |
mjg59 | ian_brasil: No | 05:25 |
mjg59 | ian_brasil: The -ac to Xephyr allows anything to connect to Xepyhr | 05:25 |
rustyl | ian_brasil, when you do the command 'xhost +', you are only changing the access permissions for your current display | 05:25 |
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Mithrandir | agoliveira: there's a long dependency chain for claws-mail; I've rescored the first item in the list, and we might end up with the rest built later today. | 05:52 |
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agoliveira | Mithrandir: Yes, I saw that a few minutes ago. Thanks. | 05:52 |
Mithrandir | Sciri: for the dailies, you might want to look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~tfheen/bzr/mobile-image-runner/ | 06:01 |
Mithrandir | (bzr repo, so bzr branch $url) | 06:01 |
Sciri | OK, great... | 06:02 |
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ian_brasil | i have xhost access control enabled..i started Xephyr like Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x32 -dpi 96 -ac and i used the start-hildon script ...this works ok | 06:20 |
Mithrandir | it shouldn't, any more | 06:21 |
Mithrandir | so if that works, it's a bug. :-P | 06:21 |
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alek_laptop | Mithrandir, u there? | 06:30 |
ian_brasil | like asac on the same setup xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /usr/bin/Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x32 -dpi 96 -ac | 06:30 |
ian_brasil | fails ...complaining about not able to free font path | 06:30 |
alek_laptop | mjg59, u there ? | 06:31 |
Mithrandir | alek_laptop: I am | 06:31 |
mjg59 | alek_laptop: Hi | 06:31 |
alek_laptop | oh, great! | 06:31 |
alek_laptop | I have a reported bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/134626 | 06:31 |
alek_laptop | but don't know how to change the project to linux-source-2.6.22 | 06:32 |
mjg59 | alek_laptop: Hit the status, and a box will drop down. Type the source package name in there. | 06:32 |
alek_laptop | yeah, but it always said no such project .... | 06:33 |
mjg59 | alek_laptop: Just worked fine for me :) | 06:33 |
alek_laptop | and when I searched, only show package named "linux" ... | 06:33 |
mjg59 | Ah - you need to edit the package, not the project | 06:34 |
mjg59 | The project is ubuntu | 06:34 |
alek_laptop | mjg59, oh, let me try. | 06:34 |
alek_laptop | it said the bug was already marked affecting linux-2.6.22-source | 06:36 |
mjg59 | Yes, I changed it myself when you said it didn't work for you | 06:38 |
alek_laptop | mjg59, hoho, thanks a lot. | 06:38 |
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kwwii | bspencer, kyleN: I talked to Michael (the guy at Nokia working on the hildon-theme-tools) | 07:24 |
bspencer | yes | 07:25 |
kwwii | they are working on changing a few things and write new documentation for them, I agreed to help with the process | 07:25 |
kwwii | so we should get a lot further soon | 07:25 |
bspencer | that sounds great | 07:25 |
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rob_moblin | sodarock_ubuntu, how's it going in boston? | 07:30 |
sodarock_ubuntu | rob_moblin: Going good. No problems. | 07:31 |
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kyleN | that's great | 07:45 |
kyleN | kwwii: Do they have a specification they are working from or are they just going to do what they think is best? | 07:45 |
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asac | tko: there? | 08:56 |
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mfrey | Mithrandir: PKGS=hal gnome-keyring-manager gnome-system-tools network-manager-gnome gksu bluez-utils libbluetooth-dev libbluetooth2 bluetooth bluetooth-alsa bluez-btsco bluez | 09:01 |
mfrey | -hcidump gnome-bluetooth bluez-gnome python-bluez wireless-tools ppp pppconfig wvdial diald gnome-ppp libpt-plugins-v4l2 libsdl1.2debian | 09:01 |
Mithrandir | cheers | 09:01 |
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kwwii | kyleN: as far as I know they are mainly working on a system for themselves...at the time it seems to be the best way to understand what they are doing and why. after that we can change things to fit out needs | 09:41 |
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tko | asac: sort of | 10:04 |
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dholbach | hey HappyCamp | 10:52 |
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sodarock_ubuntu | dholbach: http://berlin.craigslist.org/ Not sure how popular it is there. | 10:52 |
dholbach | sodarock_ubuntu: yeah, just got there myself :) | 10:52 |
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asac | tko: thanks, but I solved my hildon event issues ... for now ;) | 11:44 |
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