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| PriceChild | Hello Midnight_Abuse, how can I help? | 02:23 |
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| Midnight_Abuse | Hmm I want some cool effects for Ubuntu. | 02:23 |
| PriceChild | Midnight_Abuse, please read the topic :) | 02:24 |
| Midnight_Abuse | Ooh, I am sorry :D | 02:24 |
| Midnight_Abuse | Thank you. | 02:25 |
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| nalioth | don't diss your fan club, PriceChild | 02:28 |
| PriceChild | Its all good. | 02:28 |
| mneptok | Saul Goode | 02:56 |
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| ubotu | In #ubuntu, daniel1 said: ubotu: the thing is, i tried doing alsamixer -c(the correct device) and rebooting (which is what worked last time i had installed ubuntu) and it was fine, and this time it didnt work... | 03:53 |
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| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: ping | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | ubotu ping | 05:45 |
| ubotu | host not found | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | ubotu ping | 05:46 |
| ubotu | host not found | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | \o/ | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | \o/ | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | ubotu ping | 05:52 |
| ubotu | host not found | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | ubotu ping | 05:54 |
| ubotu | host not found | 05:54 |
| tonyyarusso | host "elkbuntu" not found :P | 05:55 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 05:55 |
| Hobbsee | i moved, and the connection turned to crap | 05:56 |
| Hobbsee | so it usually shows me a ~110 second lag or something. | 05:56 |
| Hobbsee | ubotu: ping | 05:57 |
| ubotu | host not found | 05:57 |
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| ubotu | Geek_ called the ops in #ubuntu | 06:00 |
| elkbuntu | what was she pinging me for? | 07:08 |
| tonyyarusso | beats me | 07:12 |
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| ubotu | Jamesinator called the ops in #ubuntu | 07:42 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, i smell a ban evader in #ubuntu | 07:44 |
| elkbuntu | stdin, ... why single me out? :( | 07:45 |
| nalioth | you only smell one? he's been making himself known quite loudly | 07:45 |
| stdin | elkbuntu: because you banned him :p | 07:45 |
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| Jbirk | Hello | 07:45 |
| Jbirk | Quick question | 07:45 |
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| Jbirk | Hello | 07:46 |
| Jbirk | I am told that NETWizz is banned in #ubuntu | 07:46 |
| Jbirk | Why does my instant messenger tell me that? | 07:46 |
| wolferine | possibly display the host ? | 07:47 |
| Jbirk | I am sorry what? | 07:47 |
| wolferine | if you /whois user | 07:47 |
| wolferine | it will give you the 'hostname' | 07:47 |
| Jbirk | of me? | 07:47 |
| wolferine | of the banned user | 07:47 |
| Jbirk | The banned user is me, but a different Nick | 07:47 |
| Jbirk | I am curious why | 07:48 |
| wolferine | im not an op, I cannot help you further | 07:48 |
| NETWizz | here we go | 07:48 |
| NETWizz | This is the banned user | 07:48 |
| wolferine | hop in #ubuntu | 07:48 |
| NETWizz | I am banned | 07:48 |
| wolferine | means, /part then /join | 07:48 |
| NETWizz | Why should I even try | 07:48 |
| elkbuntu | wolferine, what are you doing? | 07:48 |
| nalioth | wolferine: thanks, we're working on it | 07:49 |
| NETWizz | If I did something, I am sorry, but I want to know what | 07:49 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, you were banned for insisting on talking about suse in the *#ubuntu support* channel | 07:49 |
| NETWizz | If you gusy want me to go away, fine I will leave | 07:49 |
| wolferine | np nalioth | 07:49 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, you were warned several times to stop it | 07:49 |
| NETWizz | Why was I not notified of this? | 07:49 |
| NETWizz | Why was I not first kicked? Why is there no mention of that in http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ ? | 07:50 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, you were warned verbally by several ops | 07:50 |
| NETWizz | log file please | 07:50 |
| elkbuntu | https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/bans.cgi?query=netwizz&kicks=on&oldbans=on&bans=on&oldmutes=on&mutes=on | 07:51 |
| stdin | it does, however, say in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines that off topic (non-support related) discussion should not be in the support channels | 07:51 |
| Jucato | !guidelines | 07:51 |
| ubotu | The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 07:51 |
| NETWizz | Okay | 07:52 |
| NETWizz | Let me read the logs | 07:52 |
| nalioth | NETWizz: so basically, you can talk to your hearts content about Suse, Fedora, or most any other operating system in #ubuntu-offtopic | 07:52 |
| NETWizz | What I don't see is a warning that I was going to be banned | 07:54 |
| NETWizz | Not only that, I read my logs and really don't see what I did that was wrong | 07:54 |
| NETWizz | I left the channel at my own accord to head to #suse | 07:55 |
| NETWizz | After I left, I was banned | 07:55 |
| NETWizz | I implore you to explain that | 07:55 |
| NETWizz | Thanks, nalioth, I think I will join #ubuntu-offtopic | 07:56 |
| NETWizz | However, I still do not see where I broke the code of conduct | 07:56 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, you do not have to break the code of conduct to be banned from a channel. You were repeatedly and persistantly offtopic, and this is against freenode policy. | 07:57 |
| nalioth | and Ubuntu channel policy | 07:57 |
| elkbuntu | yes, and that | 07:58 |
| NETWizz | Yet another link? | 07:58 |
| NETWizz | Can I get a link to that? | 07:59 |
| NETWizz | Well let me see I didn't flood, use an away message, repeat my question, abuse a bot, use non-English, I didn't use poor language, call !ops, bring bots, enable talking scripts | 08:00 |
| NETWizz | I guess you could call me annoying at best | 08:00 |
| elkbuntu | you were *offtopic* | 08:00 |
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| NETWizz | Okay, so I treated #ubuntu as #ubuntu-offtopic | 08:01 |
| NETWizz | I am willing to go along with that | 08:01 |
| NETWizz | Now that I was off topic, where does it say that is rewarded with a ban? | 08:02 |
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| NETWizz | Here is the gist | 08:03 |
| NETWizz | I was installing Suse and needed help but did not know where to get it | 08:03 |
| NETWizz | I figured, Hey it is a Grub problem | 08:03 |
| NETWizz | Hum, I also run Ubuntu, which coincidentally uses Grub... Maybe they would help me | 08:03 |
| NETWizz | I did not get help, but was told to go to #suse | 08:03 |
| NETWizz | I went to #suse and was banned from #Ubuntu | 08:04 |
| NETWizz | Is there a higher level opt I can plead my case too? | 08:04 |
| nalioth | NETWizz: we are all here | 08:04 |
| NETWizz | Or perhaps the Freenode people? | 08:04 |
| NETWizz | Everyone feels the ban is justified then? | 08:04 |
| nalioth | NETWizz: yes, #ubuntu is not #suse | 08:04 |
| NETWizz | Agreed, but they have a lot in common. i.e. Grub | 08:05 |
| NETWizz | Am I wrong? | 08:05 |
| Hobbsee | nalioth: is a freenode person | 08:05 |
| nalioth | NETWizz: ##linux is available if your #[distro] channel is wanting | 08:05 |
| NETWizz | The way I look at it is people told me to leave and I left | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | give me a minute, i havent seen teh logs yet. | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | then you'll have a full decision from the ops council. | 08:06 |
| NETWizz | If you want to keep the ban, fine | 08:06 |
| NETWizz | I will go along with the decision | 08:06 |
| NETWizz | I will just have to ask my Ubuntu questions in #ubuntu-offtopic unless that is being offtopic :-) | 08:07 |
| nalioth | NETWizz: be our guest | 08:07 |
| NETWizz | At least I know what I did wrong | 08:07 |
| NETWizz | I feel better about that | 08:07 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, strangely, had you simply asked nicely, accepted the reason without challenge or denial, and avoided displaying your 'i have been wronged, i want to talk to your supervisor' attitude, you would have been unbanned a quarter of an hour ago. | 08:07 |
| elkbuntu | now you have to wait until we feel that your attitude is suitiable | 08:07 |
| NETWizz | haha | 08:08 |
| Hobbsee | NETWizz: give me a break... | 08:08 |
| NETWizz | Where did I say I was terribly wrong | 08:08 |
| NETWizz | I think I just got done saying "I will go along with the decision" | 08:08 |
| NETWizz | I just wanted to ensure it was not one angry moderator after me. | 08:08 |
| Hobbsee | NETWizz: you came to ubuntu for suse help, said abotu how suse was, about rpms, etc, *nothing* to do with ubuntu, and then are surprised that you got banned? | 08:08 |
| elkbuntu | meanwhile, you actually ban evaded, knowingly, which is a freenode policy breach and if repeated would likely end in losing access to the whole of freenode | 08:08 |
| Hobbsee | give me a break. that classes of trolling. | 08:08 |
| Hobbsee | s/of/as/ | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | and trolling does not require a kick first. | 08:09 |
| NETWizz | No offense, but I have been anything but belligerent, and I have not spammed this channel or done anything wrong in #ubuntu-offtopic | 08:09 |
| NETWizz | I have been respectful; I think | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | but you were a complete git in #ubuntu, so? | 08:09 |
| NETWizz | I don't recall ban evasion | 08:10 |
| NETWizz | It isn't like I proxied | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | NETWizz: whether you were deliberately trolling, or trolling due to idocy, i dont overly care. the net effect is the same. | 08:10 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, you are banned in #ubuntu, yet intentionally joined #ubuntu knowing the ban was still in place. that is by definition ban evasion | 08:10 |
| NETWizz | If I really wanted to ban evade, I could stay in #ubuntu until the cows come home and pigs fly, but that isn't my intent | 08:10 |
| NETWizz | I asked if the ban was legit | 08:10 |
| NETWizz | I thought there was some sort of mistake | 08:11 |
| nalioth | NETWizz: it was legit, and worked as it was meant to | 08:11 |
| NETWizz | okay, fine | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | NETWizz: being deliberately offtopic, and not heeding warnings is part of trolling. you lose. | 08:11 |
| NETWizz | Well then, by all means since I have been condemned just tell me how long I am banned from #ubuntu | 08:12 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, until we feel you are fit to return there | 08:12 |
| NETWizz | Heeding warnings? | 08:12 |
| NETWizz | Is there a set time? | 08:12 |
| Hobbsee | NETWizz: about staying on topic. | 08:12 |
| NETWizz | You just told me I , "would have been unbanned a half hour ago" | 08:12 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, no set time. I'll lift it when I feel you are ready to return | 08:12 |
| Hobbsee | NETWizz: had you not been a pain in the neck, yes. | 08:12 |
| NETWizz | I got it | 08:13 |
| NETWizz | The subtle hint | 08:13 |
| NETWizz | 2007-08-17T07:33:35 <nixternal> !offtopic | 08:13 |
| NETWizz | 2007-08-17T07:33:35<ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supportsthe development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for randomchatter. Welcome! | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | NETWizz: still, i'm unsure why you would have been unbanned, based on the fact that you didnt seem to have anything relevant to say in ubuntu | 08:13 |
| NETWizz | I should have noticed that | 08:13 |
| elkbuntu | NETWizz, you are only prolonging your ban the longer you stay here and argue | 08:13 |
| NETWizz | Let me just say that it is not like I used profanity, had a serious issue that Ubuntu people have dealt with in the past, et cetera | 08:14 |
| NETWizz | Honestly, I appologize for asking for help with Grub in an Ubuntu channel | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | true. you were trolling. | 08:14 |
| NETWizz | How can I prolong my ban in #ubuntu | 08:15 |
| Hobbsee | you asked about suse continuously - that doesnt sound like a problem with grub. | 08:15 |
| NETWizz | I am not even in that channel | 08:15 |
| Hobbsee | NETWizz: by keeping on talking. | 08:15 |
| NETWizz | I will tell you what | 08:15 |
| NETWizz | When I want back in Ubuntu, I will enter but you won't know who I am | 08:15 |
| NETWizz | How is that? | 08:15 |
| NETWizz | The Internet is a great place | 08:15 |
| nalioth | NETWizz: have a nice day | 08:15 |
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| Hobbsee | bah | 08:16 |
| wolferine | sorry elkbuntu did I do something I shouldn't have? | 08:16 |
| Hobbsee | /notice netwizz in all honesty, we dont care who you are, we care if you behave or not. | 08:16 |
| elkbuntu | wolferine, are you an op in an ubuntu channel? | 08:16 |
| wolferine | im sure you know the answer to that | 08:16 |
| elkbuntu | then i'm sure you know the answer to your question too | 08:17 |
| wolferine | no, I honestly do not | 08:17 |
| wolferine | i felt your 'what are you doing?' was implying I was doing something wrong | 08:18 |
| elkbuntu | seriously, wolferine, why did you join this channel? | 08:18 |
| wolferine | have a good night | 08:18 |
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| ubotu | NickPresta called the ops in #kubuntu | 08:29 |
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| ubotu | nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu | 09:29 |
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| ubotu | Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu | 10:29 |
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| maneria | macarena | 12:46 |
| maneria | macarena | 12:47 |
| maneria | macarena | 12:47 |
| === mc44 does the macarena | ||
| === Pumpernickel prefers the Quake Arena | ||
| gnomefreak | !find cpu | 01:01 |
| ubotu | Found: gnome-applets, xfce4-cpugraph-plugin, ascpu, cpu, cpuburn (and 17 others) | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | !gnome-applets | 01:01 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-applets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | !cpu | 01:01 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | !ascpu | 01:01 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ascpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | useless :( | 01:01 |
| mc44 | !info ascpu | 01:03 |
| ubotu | ascpu: AfterStep look & feel CPU statistics monitor tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.11-1 (feisty), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB | 01:03 |
| gnomefreak | yeah but !ascpu should default to !info if it doesnt know (atleast it used to) | 01:04 |
| mc44 | that changed ages ago | 01:05 |
| gnomefreak | why?? | 01:05 |
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| Jordan_U | Should / can anything be done about a person having a fork bomb in their /quit message? | 01:55 |
| Pici | Who, where? | 01:55 |
| Jordan_U | * Ketsuban (n=harhar@cpc2-oxfd8-0-0-cust335.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) has joined #ubuntu+1 | 01:56 |
| Jordan_U | * Ketsuban (n=harhar@cpc2-oxfd8-0-0-cust335.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) has left #ubuntu+1 (":(){:|:&};:") | 01:56 |
| Pici | I suppose something would be done, but I dont have 'the power' in +1 | 02:00 |
| Gary | we need he-man | 02:02 |
| Gary | he has the powa | 02:03 |
| Jordan_U | Pici, I assume there is a way to put a notice somewhere that his nick / that forkbomb in /quit messages should be watched for? Since he quit immediately after joining I assume his only purpose was to post it without anybody being able to do anything to him afterward ( from his belief anyway ) | 02:03 |
| Pici | I'll mention it to some who can do something when they come in later. | 02:04 |
| Jordan_U | Pici, Thanks | 02:04 |
| jussi01 | Hmmm, have we got any ops actually here? | 02:12 |
| Pici | I saw r0b answers questions earlier. (avoiding hilight) | 02:13 |
| Pici | er, answering. | 02:13 |
| jussi01 | heheh, no problems, Just thought it would be nice to put something about 8.04's name into #ubuntu+1 | 02:14 |
| jussi01 | topic | 02:14 |
| jussi01 | (Hardy Heron if you didnt know) | 02:15 |
| Jucato | jussi01: it will be changed after gutsy is released | 02:15 |
| Jordan_U | jussi01, No Hungry Hippo :( | 02:15 |
| jussi01 | Jucato: really? we had gutsy in there before feisty was released... | 02:16 |
| Jucato | hm.. couldn't recall | 02:16 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 02:16 |
| jussi01 | never mind. it doesnt really matter | 02:16 |
| jussi01 | Jordan_U: sorry, no | 02:17 |
| Jucato | hopefully we'll have Pink Pony in the future :) | 02:18 |
| jussi01 | where is laserjock when you need him...lol | 02:18 |
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| ubotu | In ubotu, Pici said: no uds is <reply> The Ubuntu Developer Summit is being held October 27th to November 2nd in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Boston | 02:39 |
| gnomefreak | jussi01: it was +i before feisty was released | 02:41 |
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| Pici | invite only I think | 02:42 |
| jussi01 | really? how did I manage to get in there then...lol | 02:43 |
| Pici | I dont know, I was there too. | 02:45 |
| gnomefreak | yes invite only but there were times people -i it | 02:47 |
| gnomefreak | but for the most part should have stayed +i as it always has | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | invite only, yes | 02:47 |
| jussi01 | ok then. | 02:48 |
| jussi01 | hello Hobbsee! what are you doing up? | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | pondering what to cook for dinner | 02:48 |
| jussi01 | at 12.48? lol | 02:48 |
| gnomefreak | flounder ;) | 02:48 |
| jussi01 | blue crab! | 02:48 |
| === gnomefreak thought it was like 10pm there | ||
| jussi01 | oops, not daylight savings yet... | 02:49 |
| jussi01 | I keep forgetting | 02:49 |
| gnomefreak | i have a hard enough time knowing what time it is in my timezone | 02:49 |
| jussi01 | lol | 02:49 |
| Pici | gnomefreak: did you read up above about the user with the forkbomb in their quit message? | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | jussi01: 11pm or so | 02:50 |
| gnomefreak | Pici: no | 02:50 |
| jussi01 | Hobbsee: yeah... | 02:50 |
| gnomefreak | yeah 10:50 | 02:50 |
| Pici | About an hour ago in the scrollback. | 02:51 |
| gnomefreak | Ketsuban? | 02:51 |
| gnomefreak | what channels is he banned from atm? | 02:51 |
| Pici | gnomefreak: Nothing afaik. It was in #ubuntu+1, and I cant do anything there. | 02:54 |
| gnomefreak | doesnt look like it affected anyone | 02:58 |
| === gnomefreak has big feeling this is gonna fail :( | ||
| Pici | I just wanted to pass it on. | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | i wish we could forward u-o to ##offtopic | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | it's not worth keeping it open | 03:14 |
| Pici | hm | 03:15 |
| Pici | Maybe we need to rexamine what the purpose and expectations of u-o is and then go from there. | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | just because people prove they dont care about the rules | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | so get it out of the ubuntu namespace, it has nothing to do with us, they cna go where htey like. | 03:22 |
| pleia2 | +1 | 03:22 |
| === gnomefreak doesnt really chat in there | ||
| pleia2 | I don't because of the reasons stated, it's horrible :( | 03:22 |
| mc44 | people ignore the rules in #ubuntu too. Lets just forward them to ##linux | 03:23 |
| gnomefreak | it does get that way alot | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: they get banned. although they're more clueless rather than deliberately going on when told to stop. | 03:23 |
| mc44 | Hobbsee: then ban people in offtopic | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: ban list wont cover it, and we dont watch it with a fine toothed comb like that | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | and they tend to bitch very very loudly | 03:24 |
| mc44 | Yes. Ignoring bitching is the cost of being an op though, right :) | 03:24 |
| Pici | !o4o | 03:24 |
| ubotu | Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks. | 03:24 |
| === Pici reads | ||
| gnomefreak | what would change if we dropped u-o and everyone went to #3offtopic (as far as the conversations people have)? | 03:24 |
| mc44 | there would be no rules, it would be like any other crappy irc channel | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | yes, but when they bithc in highly prominent places, etc, and so drag the reputation of ubuntu down | 03:25 |
| gnomefreak | other than being able to talk more openly? | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: "SEP" | 03:25 |
| gnomefreak | sep? | 03:25 |
| mc44 | someone elses problem | 03:25 |
| gnomefreak | IMHO dropping u-o or move it to ##offtopic only helps the users that chat in the channel | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | it gives ops a break from one channnel | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | that's the point, yes | 03:26 |
| mc44 | how? I don't want to be in a room where people can say whatever they like without any rules | 03:26 |
| Pici | I have a feeling that a lot of the frequent users in u-o agree with mc44. | 03:27 |
| gnomefreak | than make rules up for #offtopic and as individule/ or some random people have ops in there (other than mainstream ops_) | 03:27 |
| Pici | And when people ask if we have an ubuntu social channel, we say what? | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | that it's ##offtopic. | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | meh. i just wish people would behave, and would stop pulling crap. | 03:29 |
| gnomefreak | Pici: if we were able to control that channel as we do with all it would be different but we sort of have to be relaxed a bit on rules because we hear nothing but bitching when we enforce the rules (we have tried this before) | 03:29 |
| mc44 | but it wouldn't be | 03:29 |
| mc44 | Hobbsee: don't we all :) | 03:29 |
| Pici | Then maybe we just need to change the rules. | 03:30 |
| gnomefreak | change what? | 03:30 |
| gnomefreak | alolow some of the above topic from bot? | 03:30 |
| mc44 | We have Pici in charge to enforce the rules now :D | 03:30 |
| Gary | lol | 03:30 |
| gnomefreak | than moving people to ##offtopic makes sense | 03:31 |
| Gary | people will always push the limits | 03:31 |
| Pici | gnomefreak: I dont know, I'm kind of thinking out loud here. | 03:31 |
| gnomefreak | i wish more output for failed patches were posted to either patch.failed or termiinal but this is sucking badly here | 03:32 |
| Gary | gnomefreak, are you on a mac? | 03:33 |
| gnomefreak | no | 03:33 |
| gnomefreak | if i dont answer that means i had a thought and more than likely the thought wont work anyway | 03:34 |
| gnomefreak | brb | 03:34 |
| Pici | I wonder (again, thinking out loud), if restricting u-o to registered users only and forwarding the rest to ##offtopic would help, by keeping out some of the riff-raff. On the other hand, it would cause some confusion. | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | i suspect that would just make them register. | 03:38 |
| gnomefreak | not really some of the people are reg. that cause issues | 03:38 |
| Pici | But most? | 03:38 |
| gnomefreak | yes the main trouble makers are | 03:39 |
| Pici | Hm :/. | 03:39 |
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| gnomefreak | wonder if he found new channel to cause trouble in | 03:40 |
| Pici | yipe? | 03:40 |
| gnomefreak | yeah | 03:40 |
| mc44 | He was permabanned | 03:40 |
| Pici | Hes in ##trangle afaik. | 03:40 |
| gnomefreak | ah finally | 03:40 |
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| stdin | #ubuntu needs help | 04:02 |
| Pici | YES | 04:02 |
| Pici | !ops | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | !staff | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: call a fricking staffer then. | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: for any bot attacks like that, call staffers - we have no way of banning them. | 04:06 |
| Pici | Hobbsee: noted. | 04:07 |
| mc44 | ubotu was dead though | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | need klines for that sort of thing | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: that's what happens when you get lagged, due to the messages. | 04:07 |
| Pici | mc44: you can use /stats p | 04:07 |
| mc44 | Pici: aha :) | 04:07 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: right-o | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | Pici: usually there's no one on there | 04:07 |
| mc44 | Hobbsee: then how do you call staffers? | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: !staff | 04:08 |
| mc44 | Hobbsee: ubotu was dead? | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: think DDOS. | 04:08 |
| mc44 | yeah, I mean is !staff independent of ubotu | 04:08 |
| Pici | I'll keep it in mind in the future. | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: he called it before ubotu had left | 04:09 |
| seanw | Hey guys. | 04:09 |
| seanw | As a staffer, I began to kline before they started to spam. | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | hi seanw. you missed the party, i'm afraid. | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | oh, neat | 04:09 |
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| Hobbsee | you need a faster kline stick, it seems :P | 04:10 |
| seanw | Well, I was pretty fast! | 04:10 |
| seanw | THey were flashing by faster than I could read. | 04:10 |
| seanw | So er, sorry for being slow anyway. | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i noted teh lag of 54 seconds here too | 04:10 |
| mc44 | Hobbsee: yes, I was just pointing out the problem of calling staffers :) I'm sure someone will figure out killing ubotu before flooding the channel is a cunning plan | 04:10 |
| seanw | PhilKC joined in too but we ended up klining the same ones more than once, which just wasted tome :\ | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: true | 04:10 |
| seanw | time* | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: raising the alarm in #freenode can be helpful too | 04:11 |
| mc44 | ok | 04:11 |
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| seanw | Hilighting staff helps | 04:11 |
| seanw | A lot of us have !staff on hilight | 04:11 |
| mc44 | great | 04:12 |
| Pici | Okay good. | 04:12 |
| seanw | Pehraps set up your own alias of all staff nicks who are in this channel. | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | seanw: which is what we mentioend aerlier, assuming the bot is still here :) | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | oh, point | 04:12 |
| seanw | (well, I say a lot, but I don't know) | 04:12 |
| Pici | seanw: I was actually going to do that | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:12 |
| seanw | It should work. | 04:13 |
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| Hobbsee | ubotu: ping | 04:16 |
| ubotu | pong | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | ubotu: ping | 04:17 |
| ubotu | pong | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | !uvfe is <alias> uvf | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | ubotu uvfe is <alias> uvf | 04:18 |
| PriceChild | They've announced +2 a bit early haven't they? :) | 04:18 |
| mc44 | LTS | 04:18 |
| mc44 | give enterprise some waring I expect | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | not so much | 04:18 |
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| PriceChild | Hi MattJ, how can I help? | 04:20 |
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| MattJ | Hi PriceChild | 04:22 |
| MattJ | Sorry, just poking about :) | 04:23 |
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| PriceChild | Hey seanw, I guess we could set up a little notice in there just to ping them... | 05:11 |
| seanw | Hmm? | 05:11 |
| === Pici is ??? too | ||
| PriceChild | seanw, #ubuntu-read-topic | 05:12 |
| seanw | Oh, your blog comment I left :) | 05:12 |
| seanw | Yeah, that is my suggestion. | 05:12 |
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| jdong_ | well I promised I wouldn't be this retarded again... but I lost dyndns updates during a dist-upgrade | 05:17 |
| jdong_ | can an op get the IP of jdong? | 05:17 |
| jdong_ | both me and jdong are identifed to nickserv | 05:17 |
| PriceChild | jdong_, lol why? | 05:18 |
| jdong_ | PriceChild: need to get some files off of him | 05:18 |
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| PriceChild | jdong_, checking /stats p or #freenode would probably be quicker | 05:19 |
| nalioth | /stats p/ | 05:19 |
| nalioth | what for? | 05:19 |
| jdong_ | I want jdong's IP | 05:19 |
| jdong_ | he lost his dyndns.org again | 05:19 |
| nalioth | ooops | 05:19 |
| jdong_ | thanks nalioth! | 05:20 |
| Pici | The real jdong isnt going to like this :p | 05:20 |
| nalioth | you're welcome | 05:20 |
| nalioth | we won't tell the 'real jdong' | 05:20 |
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| jdong | whee real jdong say what? :) | 05:21 |
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| jdong | hmm... do you guys think dyndns would kill me if I set refresh interval to 1hr? :) | 05:21 |
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| PriceChild | jdong, I think my no-ip is at half an hour by default :S | 05:22 |
| jdong | I used to use no-ip | 05:22 |
| jdong | then at one point they started spamming me like crazy | 05:22 |
| jdong | like 3 times a week to buy their premium package | 05:22 |
| nalioth | jdong: your killfile didn't take care of it? | 05:23 |
| jdong | well, yeah, but it didn't sound like the company likes me as a freeloader :) | 05:24 |
| mc44 | can I get umode +i to stay set even when I reconnect? | 05:25 |
| nalioth | mc44: add it to your onjoin commands | 05:25 |
| mc44 | ah ok, you can't do it server side? | 05:26 |
| nalioth | mc44: no | 05:30 |
| mc44 | nalioth: ok, thanks :D | 05:30 |
| ubotu | MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic | 05:50 |
| Pici | I got it. | 05:50 |
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| Gary | Pici, didn't you just ban cchan? | 06:18 |
| Pici | Yes. | 06:18 |
| Gary | Crazytales (n=crazytal@unaffiliated/cchan) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic | 06:18 |
| Gary | same user, since it's the same cloak | 06:18 |
| elkbuntu | btlogin | 06:18 |
| elkbuntu | bah | 06:18 |
| elkbuntu | @btlogin | 06:18 |
| Gary | I've seen that nick before too... | 06:19 |
| elkbuntu | https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/bans.cgi?query=crazytales&kicks=on&oldbans=on&bans=on&oldmutes=on&mutes=on | 06:19 |
| elkbuntu | plenty of times :) | 06:19 |
| ubotu | erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu | 06:20 |
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| Pici | sigh. I'll adjust the ban accordingly. | 06:22 |
| Gary | erm, not sure, crazytales doesn't equal crazytales2 | 06:22 |
| Gary | that second nick used to be active in apple, and was okay | 06:23 |
| Pici | Its ban evasion nonetheless | 06:23 |
| Gary | oh yes, for cchan, yeah | 06:23 |
| elkbuntu | Gary, he changes cloak like he changes underwear, there's 3 diff ones just in that tracker history | 06:23 |
| Gary | most of those crazytales2 bans are in jest, check out gary or gazzak in the ban tracker for similar | 06:24 |
| Pici | Gary: check out the /msg nickserv info for crazytales, crazytales2 and cchan | 06:26 |
| Gary | Pici, well done, that links em all nicely | 06:28 |
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| ubotu | Jamesinator called the ops in #ubuntu | 07:21 |
| nalioth | well, that was easy | 07:22 |
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| wolfsong | hi can someone test the ddc exploit? | 08:24 |
| PriceChild | Hey wolfsong | 08:24 |
| wolfsong | hiya | 08:24 |
| PriceChild | You're good :) | 08:25 |
| wolfsong | thanks PriceChild! | 08:25 |
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| ubotu | defrysk called the ops in #ubuntu | 09:00 |
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| Gary | trying to guess if ^yes^ is a troll or not, the nick's IP is indonesian... | 09:56 |
| Gary | right banned, due to spam and rude words | 10:04 |
| PriceChild | how random | 10:15 |
| Gary | yes | 10:15 |
| Gary | read the logs? | 10:15 |
| mc44 | ^yes^ too | 10:15 |
| Gary | first -offtopic ban for me too, I was all, wooo, hope I do it right | 10:16 |
| Gary | I cannot comment on the bantracker though | 10:16 |
| mc44 | Gary: well you probably should have kicked when you banned ;) | 10:17 |
| Gary | mc44, I had already kicked | 10:17 |
| Gary | and he came back, and pasted the same thing a few times... | 10:18 |
| mc44 | Gary: I mean simultaneously | 10:18 |
| Gary | ahh, yeah, I left him sitting there, muted, oops | 10:18 |
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| PriceChild | Gary, standard bans don't mute afaik... they just stop them rejoining. | 10:30 |
| Gary | PriceChild, I'm sure they stop communications to the channel (well about 50% sure) | 10:31 |
| Gary | Gary> hey PriceChild | 10:32 |
| Gary | [21:31] * #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot send to channel | 10:32 |
| Gary | yes, they do | 10:32 |
| PriceChild | hmm... | 10:32 |
| PriceChild | Must be +z fooling me... | 10:32 |
| PriceChild | grrr :) | 10:32 |
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| PriceChild | I could swear the evil nal.ioth said they didn't... ah well... now I really know for sure :P | 10:33 |
| Gary | see, I knew that, due to Seveas banning me so often :p | 10:33 |
| PriceChild | no you didn't know that... you were 50% sure :P | 10:34 |
| Gary | yeah, but thats 'cos I spent the evening in the bar | 10:34 |
| PriceChild | how rude :) | 10:34 |
| Gary | i'm only 50% sure of my name :p | 10:34 |
| nalioth | Gary: that's cuz you change it too often | 10:35 |
| PriceChild | is it gary.... or gazzak... | 10:35 |
| PriceChild | who knows :) | 10:35 |
| nalioth | grouch . . . | 10:36 |
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| PriceChild | Its a funny old world. | 10:36 |
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| OgMaciel | are you guys working too hard today? | 11:10 |
| Gary | work? what is that? | 11:11 |
| OgMaciel | hehehe | 11:11 |
| Seeker` | Gary is allergic to work | 11:11 |
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| OgMaciel | Figured I'd make you laugh a bit: http://www.dragonstrider.com/~jtate/pingpong.swf | 11:11 |
| PriceChild | hehe | 11:26 |
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