[02:23] <PriceChild> Hello Midnight_Abuse, how can I help?
[02:23] <Midnight_Abuse> Hmm I want some cool effects for Ubuntu.
[02:24] <PriceChild> Midnight_Abuse, please read the topic :)
[02:24] <Midnight_Abuse> Ooh, I am sorry :D
[02:25] <Midnight_Abuse> Thank you.
[02:28] <nalioth> don't diss your fan club, PriceChild 
[02:28] <PriceChild> Its all good.
[02:56] <mneptok> Saul Goode
[03:53] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, daniel1 said: ubotu: the thing is, i tried doing alsamixer -c(the correct device) and rebooting (which is what worked last time i had installed ubuntu) and it was fine, and this time it didnt work...
[05:35] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: ping
[05:45] <Hobbsee> ubotu ping
[05:45] <ubotu> host not found
[05:46] <Hobbsee> ubotu ping
[05:46] <ubotu> host not found
[05:46] <Hobbsee> \o/
[05:52] <Hobbsee> \o/
[05:52] <Hobbsee> ubotu ping
[05:52] <ubotu> host not found
[05:54] <Hobbsee> ubotu ping
[05:54] <ubotu> host not found
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> host "elkbuntu" not found :P
[05:55] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:56] <Hobbsee> i moved, and the connection turned to crap
[05:56] <Hobbsee> so it usually shows me a ~110 second lag or something.
[05:57] <Hobbsee> ubotu: ping
[05:57] <ubotu> host not found
[06:00] <ubotu> Geek_ called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:08] <elkbuntu> what was she pinging me for?
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> beats me
[07:42] <ubotu> Jamesinator called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:44] <elkbuntu> nalioth, i smell a ban evader in #ubuntu
[07:45] <elkbuntu> stdin, ... why single me out? :(
[07:45] <nalioth> you only smell one? he's been making himself known quite loudly
[07:45] <stdin> elkbuntu: because you banned him :p
[07:45] <Jbirk> Hello
[07:45] <Jbirk> Quick question
[07:46] <Jbirk> Hello
[07:46] <Jbirk> I am told that NETWizz is banned in #ubuntu
[07:46] <Jbirk> Why does my instant messenger tell me that?
[07:47] <wolferine> possibly display the host ?
[07:47] <Jbirk> I am sorry what?
[07:47] <wolferine> if you /whois user
[07:47] <wolferine> it will give you the 'hostname'
[07:47] <Jbirk> of me?
[07:47] <wolferine> of the banned user
[07:47] <Jbirk> The banned user is me, but a different Nick
[07:48] <Jbirk> I am curious why 
[07:48] <wolferine> im not an op, I cannot help you further
[07:48] <NETWizz> here we go
[07:48] <NETWizz> This is the banned user
[07:48] <wolferine> hop in #ubuntu
[07:48] <NETWizz> I am banned
[07:48] <wolferine> means, /part then /join
[07:48] <NETWizz> Why should I even try
[07:48] <elkbuntu> wolferine, what are you doing?
[07:49] <nalioth> wolferine: thanks, we're working on it
[07:49] <NETWizz> If I did something, I am sorry, but I want to know what
[07:49] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, you were banned for insisting on talking about suse in the *#ubuntu support* channel
[07:49] <NETWizz> If you gusy want me to go away, fine I will leave
[07:49] <wolferine> np nalioth 
[07:49] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, you were warned several times to stop it
[07:49] <NETWizz> Why was I not notified of this?
[07:50] <NETWizz> Why was I not first kicked?  Why is there no mention of that in http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ ?
[07:50] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, you were warned verbally by several ops
[07:50] <NETWizz> log file please
[07:51] <elkbuntu> https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/bans.cgi?query=netwizz&kicks=on&oldbans=on&bans=on&oldmutes=on&mutes=on
[07:51] <stdin> it does, however, say in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines that off topic (non-support related) discussion should not be in the support channels 
[07:51] <Jucato> !guidelines
[07:51] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:52] <NETWizz> Okay
[07:52] <NETWizz> Let me read the logs
[07:52] <nalioth> NETWizz: so basically, you can talk to your hearts content about Suse, Fedora, or most any other operating system in #ubuntu-offtopic 
[07:54] <NETWizz> What I don't see is a warning that I was going to be banned
[07:54] <NETWizz> Not only that, I read my logs and really don't see what I did that was wrong
[07:55] <NETWizz> I left the channel at my own accord to head to #suse
[07:55] <NETWizz> After I left, I was banned
[07:55] <NETWizz> I implore you to explain that
[07:56] <NETWizz> Thanks, nalioth, I think I will join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:56] <NETWizz> However, I still do not see where I broke the code of conduct
[07:57] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, you do not have to break the code of conduct to be banned from a channel. You were repeatedly and persistantly offtopic, and this is against freenode policy.
[07:57] <nalioth> and Ubuntu channel policy
[07:58] <elkbuntu> yes, and that
[07:58] <NETWizz> Yet another link?
[07:59] <NETWizz> Can I get a link to that?
[08:00] <NETWizz> Well let me see I didn't flood, use an away message, repeat my question, abuse a bot, use non-English, I didn't use poor language, call !ops, bring bots, enable talking scripts
[08:00] <NETWizz> I guess you could call me annoying at best
[08:00] <elkbuntu> you were *offtopic*
[08:01] <NETWizz> Okay, so I treated #ubuntu as #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:01] <NETWizz> I am willing to go along with that
[08:02] <NETWizz> Now that I was off topic, where does it say that is rewarded with a ban?
[08:03] <NETWizz> Here is the gist
[08:03] <NETWizz> I was installing Suse and needed help but did not know where to get it
[08:03] <NETWizz> I figured, Hey it is a Grub problem
[08:03] <NETWizz> Hum, I also run Ubuntu, which coincidentally uses Grub... Maybe they would help me
[08:03] <NETWizz> I did not get help, but was told to go to #suse
[08:04] <NETWizz> I went to #suse and was banned from #Ubuntu
[08:04] <NETWizz> Is there a higher level opt I can plead my case too?
[08:04] <nalioth> NETWizz: we are all here
[08:04] <NETWizz> Or perhaps the Freenode people?
[08:04] <NETWizz> Everyone feels the ban is justified then?
[08:04] <nalioth> NETWizz: yes, #ubuntu is not #suse
[08:05] <NETWizz> Agreed, but they have a lot in common.  i.e. Grub
[08:05] <NETWizz> Am I wrong?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> nalioth: is a freenode person
[08:05] <nalioth> NETWizz: ##linux is available if your #[distro]  channel is wanting
[08:06] <NETWizz> The way I look at it is people told me to leave and I left
[08:06] <Hobbsee> give me a minute, i havent seen teh logs yet.
[08:06] <Hobbsee> then you'll have a full decision from the ops council.
[08:06] <NETWizz> If you want to keep the ban, fine
[08:06] <NETWizz> I will go along with the decision
[08:07] <NETWizz> I will just have to ask my Ubuntu questions in #ubuntu-offtopic unless that is being offtopic :-)
[08:07] <nalioth> NETWizz: be our guest
[08:07] <NETWizz> At least I know what I did wrong
[08:07] <NETWizz> I feel better about that
[08:07] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, strangely, had you simply asked nicely, accepted the reason without challenge or denial, and avoided displaying your 'i have been wronged, i want to talk to your supervisor' attitude, you would have been unbanned a quarter of an hour ago.
[08:07] <elkbuntu> now you have to wait until we feel that your attitude is suitiable
[08:08] <NETWizz> haha
[08:08] <Hobbsee> NETWizz: give me a break...
[08:08] <NETWizz> Where did I say I was terribly wrong
[08:08] <NETWizz> I think I just got done saying "I will go along with the decision"
[08:08] <NETWizz> I just wanted to ensure it was not one angry moderator after me.
[08:08] <Hobbsee> NETWizz: you came to ubuntu for suse help, said abotu how suse was, about rpms, etc, *nothing* to do with ubuntu, and then are surprised that you got banned?
[08:08] <elkbuntu> meanwhile, you actually ban evaded, knowingly, which is a freenode policy breach and if repeated would likely end in losing access to the whole of freenode
[08:08] <Hobbsee> give me a break.  that classes of trolling.
[08:09] <Hobbsee> s/of/as/
[08:09] <Hobbsee> and trolling does not require a kick first.
[08:09] <NETWizz> No offense, but I have been anything but belligerent, and I have not spammed this channel or done anything wrong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:09] <NETWizz> I have been respectful; I think
[08:09] <Hobbsee> but you were a complete git in #ubuntu, so?
[08:10] <NETWizz> I don't recall ban evasion
[08:10] <NETWizz> It isn't like I proxied
[08:10] <Hobbsee> NETWizz: whether you were deliberately trolling, or trolling due to idocy, i dont overly care.  the net effect is the same.
[08:10] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, you are banned in #ubuntu, yet intentionally joined #ubuntu knowing the ban was still in place. that is by definition ban evasion
[08:10] <NETWizz> If I really wanted to ban evade, I could stay in #ubuntu until the cows come home and pigs fly, but that isn't my intent
[08:10] <NETWizz> I asked if the ban was legit
[08:11] <NETWizz> I thought there was some sort of mistake
[08:11] <nalioth> NETWizz: it was legit, and worked as it was meant to
[08:11] <NETWizz> okay, fine
[08:11] <Hobbsee> NETWizz: being deliberately offtopic, and not heeding warnings is part of trolling.  you lose.
[08:12] <NETWizz> Well then, by all means since I have been condemned just tell me how long I am banned from #ubuntu
[08:12] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, until we feel you are fit to return there
[08:12] <NETWizz> Heeding warnings?
[08:12] <NETWizz> Is there a set time?
[08:12] <Hobbsee> NETWizz: about staying on topic.
[08:12] <NETWizz> You just told me I , "would have been unbanned a half hour ago"
[08:12] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, no set time. I'll lift it when I feel you are ready to return
[08:12] <Hobbsee> NETWizz: had you not been a pain in the neck, yes.
[08:13] <NETWizz> I got it
[08:13] <NETWizz> The subtle hint
[08:13] <NETWizz> 2007-08-17T07:33:35 <nixternal> !offtopic
[08:13] <NETWizz> 2007-08-17T07:33:35<ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supportsthe development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for randomchatter. Welcome!
[08:13] <Hobbsee> NETWizz: still, i'm unsure why you would have been unbanned, based on the fact that you didnt seem to have anything relevant to say in ubuntu
[08:13] <NETWizz> I should have noticed that
[08:13] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, you are only prolonging your ban the longer you stay here and argue
[08:14] <NETWizz> Let me just say that it is not like I used profanity, had a serious issue that Ubuntu people have dealt with in the past, et cetera
[08:14] <NETWizz> Honestly, I appologize for asking for help with Grub in an Ubuntu channel
[08:14] <Hobbsee> true.  you were trolling.
[08:15] <NETWizz> How can I prolong my ban in #ubuntu
[08:15] <Hobbsee> you asked about suse continuously - that doesnt sound like a problem with grub.
[08:15] <NETWizz> I am not even in that channel
[08:15] <Hobbsee> NETWizz: by keeping on talking.
[08:15] <NETWizz> I will tell you what
[08:15] <NETWizz> When I want back in Ubuntu, I will enter but you won't know who I am
[08:15] <NETWizz> How is that?
[08:15] <NETWizz> The Internet is a great place
[08:15] <nalioth> NETWizz: have a nice day
[08:16] <Hobbsee> bah
[08:16] <wolferine> sorry elkbuntu did I do something I shouldn't have?
[08:16] <Hobbsee>  /notice netwizz in all honesty, we dont care who you are, we care if you behave or not.
[08:16] <elkbuntu> wolferine, are you an op in an ubuntu channel?
[08:16] <wolferine> im sure you know the answer to that
[08:17] <elkbuntu> then i'm sure you know the answer to your question too
[08:17] <wolferine> no, I honestly do not
[08:18] <wolferine> i felt your 'what are you doing?' was implying I was doing something wrong
[08:18] <elkbuntu> seriously, wolferine, why did you join this channel?
[08:18] <wolferine> have a good night
[08:29] <ubotu> NickPresta called the ops in #kubuntu
[09:29] <ubotu> nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:29] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:46] <maneria> macarena
[12:47] <maneria> macarena
[12:47] <maneria> macarena
[01:01] <gnomefreak> !find cpu
[01:01] <ubotu> Found: gnome-applets, xfce4-cpugraph-plugin, ascpu, cpu, cpuburn (and 17 others)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> !gnome-applets
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-applets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <gnomefreak> !cpu
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <gnomefreak> !ascpu
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ascpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <gnomefreak> useless :(
[01:03] <mc44> !info ascpu
[01:03] <ubotu> ascpu: AfterStep look & feel CPU statistics monitor tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.11-1 (feisty), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB
[01:04] <gnomefreak> yeah but !ascpu should default to !info if it doesnt know (atleast it used to)
[01:05] <mc44> that changed ages ago
[01:05] <gnomefreak> why??
[01:55] <Jordan_U> Should / can anything be done about a person having a fork bomb in their /quit message?
[01:55] <Pici> Who, where?
[01:56] <Jordan_U> * Ketsuban (n=harhar@cpc2-oxfd8-0-0-cust335.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) has joined #ubuntu+1
[01:56] <Jordan_U> * Ketsuban (n=harhar@cpc2-oxfd8-0-0-cust335.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) has left #ubuntu+1 (":(){:|:&};:")
[02:00] <Pici> I suppose something would be done, but I dont have 'the power' in +1
[02:02] <Gary> we need he-man
[02:03] <Gary> he has the powa
[02:03] <Jordan_U> Pici, I assume there is a way to put a notice somewhere that his nick / that forkbomb in /quit messages should be watched for? Since he quit immediately after joining I assume his only purpose was to post it without anybody being able to do anything to him afterward ( from his belief anyway )
[02:04] <Pici> I'll mention it to some who can do something when they come in later.
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Pici, Thanks
[02:12] <jussi01> Hmmm, have we got any ops actually here?
[02:13] <Pici> I saw r0b answers questions earlier.  (avoiding hilight)
[02:13] <Pici> er, answering.
[02:14] <jussi01> heheh, no problems, Just thought it would be nice to put something about 8.04's name into #ubuntu+1
[02:14] <jussi01> topic
[02:15] <jussi01> (Hardy Heron if you didnt know)
[02:15] <Jucato> jussi01: it will be changed after gutsy is released
[02:15] <Jordan_U> jussi01, No Hungry Hippo :(
[02:16] <jussi01> Jucato: really? we had gutsy in there before feisty was released...
[02:16] <Jucato> hm.. couldn't recall
[02:16] <jussi01> hehe
[02:16] <jussi01> never mind. it doesnt really matter
[02:17] <jussi01> Jordan_U: sorry, no
[02:18] <Jucato> hopefully we'll have Pink Pony in the future :)
[02:18] <jussi01> where is laserjock when you need him...lol
[02:39] <ubotu> In ubotu, Pici said: no uds is <reply> The Ubuntu Developer Summit is being held October 27th to November 2nd in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Boston
[02:41] <gnomefreak> jussi01: it was +i before feisty was released
[02:42] <Pici> invite only I think
[02:43] <jussi01> really? how did I manage to get in there then...lol
[02:45] <Pici> I dont know, I was there too.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> yes invite only but there were times people -i it 
[02:47] <gnomefreak> but for the most part should have stayed +i as it always has
[02:47] <Hobbsee> invite only, yes
[02:48] <jussi01> ok then.
[02:48] <jussi01> hello Hobbsee! what are you doing up?
[02:48] <Hobbsee> pondering what to cook for dinner
[02:48] <jussi01> at 12.48? lol
[02:48] <gnomefreak> flounder ;)
[02:48] <jussi01> blue crab!
[02:49] <jussi01> oops, not daylight savings yet...
[02:49] <jussi01> I keep forgetting
[02:49] <gnomefreak> i have a hard enough time knowing what time it is in my timezone
[02:49] <jussi01> lol
[02:50] <Pici> gnomefreak: did you read up above about the user with the forkbomb in their quit message?
[02:50] <Hobbsee> jussi01: 11pm or so
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Pici: no
[02:50] <jussi01> Hobbsee: yeah...
[02:50] <gnomefreak> yeah 10:50
[02:51] <Pici> About an hour ago in the scrollback.
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Ketsuban?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> what channels is he banned from atm?
[02:54] <Pici> gnomefreak: Nothing afaik.  It was in #ubuntu+1, and I cant do anything there.
[02:58] <gnomefreak> doesnt look like it affected anyone
[02:59] <Pici> I just wanted to pass it on.
[03:14] <Hobbsee> i wish we could forward u-o to ##offtopic
[03:14] <Hobbsee> it's not worth keeping it open
[03:15] <Pici> hm
[03:20] <Pici> Maybe we need to rexamine what the purpose and expectations of u-o is and then go from there.
[03:21] <Hobbsee> just because people prove they dont care about the rules
[03:22] <Hobbsee> so get it out of the ubuntu namespace, it has nothing to do with us, they cna go where htey like.
[03:22] <pleia2> +1
[03:22] <pleia2> I don't because of the reasons stated, it's horrible :(
[03:23] <mc44> people ignore the rules in #ubuntu too. Lets just forward them to ##linux
[03:23] <gnomefreak> it does get that way alot
[03:23] <Hobbsee> mc44: they get banned.  although they're more clueless rather than deliberately going on when told to stop.
[03:23] <mc44> Hobbsee: then ban people in offtopic
[03:23] <Hobbsee> mc44: ban list wont cover it, and we dont watch it with a fine toothed comb like that
[03:24] <Hobbsee> and they tend to bitch very very loudly
[03:24] <mc44> Yes. Ignoring bitching is the cost of being an op though, right :)
[03:24] <Pici> !o4o
[03:24] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[03:24] <gnomefreak> what would change if we dropped u-o and everyone went to #3offtopic (as far as the conversations people have)?
[03:25] <mc44> there would be no rules, it would be like any other crappy irc channel
[03:25] <Hobbsee> yes, but when they bithc in highly prominent places, etc, and so drag the reputation of ubuntu down
[03:25] <gnomefreak> other than being able to talk more openly?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: "SEP"
[03:25] <gnomefreak> sep?
[03:25] <mc44> someone elses problem
[03:26] <gnomefreak> IMHO dropping u-o or move it to ##offtopic only helps the users that chat in the channel
[03:26] <gnomefreak> it gives ops a break from one channnel
[03:26] <Hobbsee> that's the point, yes
[03:26] <mc44> how? I don't want to be in a room where people can say whatever they like without any rules
[03:27] <Pici> I have a feeling that a lot of the frequent users in u-o agree with mc44.
[03:27] <gnomefreak> than make rules up for #offtopic and as individule/ or some random people have ops in there (other than mainstream ops_)
[03:28] <Pici> And when people ask if we have an ubuntu social channel, we say what?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> that it's ##offtopic.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> meh.  i just wish people would behave, and would stop pulling crap.
[03:29] <gnomefreak> Pici: if we were able to control that channel as we do with all it would be different but we sort of have to be relaxed a bit on rules because we hear nothing but bitching when we enforce the rules (we have tried this before)
[03:29] <mc44> but it wouldn't be
[03:29] <mc44> Hobbsee: don't we all :)
[03:30] <Pici> Then maybe we just need to change the rules.
[03:30] <gnomefreak> change what?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> alolow some of the above topic from bot?
[03:30] <mc44> We have Pici in charge to enforce the rules now :D
[03:30] <Gary> lol
[03:31] <gnomefreak> than moving people to ##offtopic makes sense
[03:31] <Gary> people will always push the limits
[03:31] <Pici> gnomefreak: I dont know, I'm kind of thinking out loud here.
[03:32] <gnomefreak> i wish more output for failed patches were posted to either patch.failed or termiinal but this is sucking badly here
[03:33] <Gary> gnomefreak, are you on a mac?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> no
[03:34] <gnomefreak> if i dont answer that means i had a thought and more than likely the thought wont work anyway
[03:34] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:37] <Pici> I wonder (again, thinking out loud), if restricting u-o to registered users only and forwarding the rest to ##offtopic would help, by keeping out some of the riff-raff.  On the other hand, it would cause some confusion.
[03:38] <Hobbsee> i suspect that would just make them register.
[03:38] <gnomefreak> not really some of the people are reg. that cause issues
[03:38] <Pici> But most?
[03:39] <gnomefreak> yes the main trouble makers are
[03:39] <Pici> Hm :/.
[03:40] <gnomefreak> wonder if he found new channel to cause trouble in
[03:40] <Pici> yipe?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> yeah
[03:40] <mc44> He was permabanned
[03:40] <Pici> Hes in ##trangle afaik.
[03:40] <gnomefreak> ah finally
[04:02] <stdin> #ubuntu needs help
[04:02] <Pici> YES
[04:02] <Pici> !ops
[04:03] <Hobbsee> !staff
[04:03] <Hobbsee> stdin: call a fricking staffer then.
[04:06] <Hobbsee> stdin: for any bot attacks like that, call staffers - we have no way of banning them.
[04:07] <Pici> Hobbsee: noted.  
[04:07] <mc44> ubotu was dead though
[04:07] <Hobbsee> need klines for that sort of thing
[04:07] <Hobbsee> mc44: that's what happens when you get lagged, due to the messages.
[04:07] <Pici> mc44:  you can use /stats p
[04:07] <mc44> Pici: aha :)
[04:07] <stdin> Hobbsee: right-o
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Pici: usually there's no one on there
[04:08] <mc44> Hobbsee: then how do you call staffers?
[04:08] <Hobbsee> mc44: !staff
[04:08] <mc44> Hobbsee: ubotu was dead?
[04:08] <Hobbsee> mc44: think DDOS.
[04:08] <mc44> yeah, I mean is !staff independent of ubotu
[04:08] <Pici> I'll keep it in mind in the future.
[04:09] <Hobbsee> mc44: he called it before ubotu had left
[04:09] <seanw> Hey guys.
[04:09] <seanw> As a staffer, I began to kline before they started to spam.
[04:09] <Hobbsee> hi seanw.  you missed the party, i'm afraid.
[04:09] <Hobbsee> oh, neat
[04:10] <Hobbsee> you need a faster kline stick, it seems :P
[04:10] <seanw> Well, I was pretty fast!
[04:10] <seanw> THey were flashing by faster than I could read.
[04:10] <seanw> So er, sorry for being slow anyway.
[04:10] <Hobbsee> yeah, i noted teh lag of 54 seconds here too
[04:10] <mc44> Hobbsee: yes, I was just pointing out the problem of calling staffers :) I'm sure someone will figure out killing ubotu before flooding the channel is a cunning plan
[04:10] <seanw> PhilKC joined in too but we ended up klining the same ones more than once, which just wasted tome :\
[04:10] <Hobbsee> mc44: true
[04:11] <seanw> time*
[04:11] <Hobbsee> mc44: raising the alarm in #freenode can be helpful too
[04:11] <mc44> ok
[04:11] <seanw> Hilighting staff helps
[04:11] <seanw> A lot of us have !staff on hilight
[04:12] <mc44> great
[04:12] <Pici> Okay good.
[04:12] <seanw> Pehraps set up your own alias of all staff nicks who are in this channel.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> seanw: which is what we mentioend aerlier, assuming the bot is still here :)
[04:12] <Hobbsee> oh, point
[04:12] <seanw> (well, I say a lot, but I don't know)
[04:12] <Pici> seanw: I was actually going to do that
[04:12] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:13] <seanw> It should work.
[04:16] <Hobbsee> ubotu: ping
[04:16] <ubotu> pong
[04:17] <Hobbsee> ubotu: ping
[04:17] <ubotu> pong
[04:18] <Hobbsee> !uvfe is <alias> uvf
[04:18] <Hobbsee> ubotu uvfe is <alias> uvf
[04:18] <PriceChild> They've announced +2 a bit early haven't they? :)
[04:18] <mc44> LTS
[04:18] <mc44> give enterprise some waring I expect
[04:18] <Hobbsee> not so much
[04:20] <PriceChild> Hi MattJ, how can I help?
[04:22] <MattJ> Hi PriceChild
[04:23] <MattJ> Sorry, just poking about :)
[05:11] <PriceChild> Hey seanw, I guess we could set up a little notice in there just to ping them...
[05:11] <seanw> Hmm?
[05:12] <PriceChild> seanw, #ubuntu-read-topic
[05:12] <seanw> Oh, your blog comment I left :)
[05:12] <seanw> Yeah, that is my suggestion.
[05:17] <jdong_> well I promised I wouldn't be this retarded again... but I lost dyndns updates during a dist-upgrade
[05:17] <jdong_> can an op get the IP of jdong?
[05:17] <jdong_> both me and jdong are identifed to nickserv
[05:18] <PriceChild> jdong_, lol why?
[05:18] <jdong_> PriceChild: need to get some files off of him
[05:19] <PriceChild> jdong_, checking /stats p or #freenode would probably be quicker
[05:19] <nalioth>  /stats p/
[05:19] <nalioth> what for?
[05:19] <jdong_> I want jdong's IP
[05:19] <jdong_> he lost his dyndns.org again
[05:19] <nalioth> ooops
[05:20] <jdong_> thanks nalioth!
[05:20] <Pici> The real jdong isnt going to like this :p
[05:20] <nalioth> you're welcome
[05:20] <nalioth> we won't tell the 'real jdong'
[05:21] <jdong> whee real jdong say what? :)
[05:21] <jdong> hmm... do you guys think dyndns would kill me if I set refresh interval to 1hr? :)
[05:22] <PriceChild> jdong, I think my no-ip is at half an hour by default :S
[05:22] <jdong> I used to use no-ip
[05:22] <jdong> then at one point they started spamming me like crazy
[05:22] <jdong> like 3 times a week to buy their premium package
[05:23] <nalioth> jdong: your killfile didn't take care of it?
[05:24] <jdong> well, yeah, but it didn't sound like the company likes me as a freeloader :)
[05:25] <mc44> can I get umode +i to stay set even when I reconnect?
[05:25] <nalioth> mc44: add it to your onjoin commands
[05:26] <mc44> ah ok, you can't do it server side?
[05:30] <nalioth> mc44: no
[05:30] <mc44> nalioth: ok, thanks :D
[05:50] <ubotu> MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:50] <Pici> I got it.
[06:18] <Gary> Pici, didn't you just ban cchan?
[06:18] <Pici> Yes.
[06:18] <Gary> Crazytales (n=crazytal@unaffiliated/cchan) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <Gary> same user, since it's the same cloak
[06:18] <elkbuntu> btlogin
[06:18] <elkbuntu> bah
[06:18] <elkbuntu> @btlogin
[06:19] <Gary> I've seen that nick before too...
[06:19] <elkbuntu> https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/bans.cgi?query=crazytales&kicks=on&oldbans=on&bans=on&oldmutes=on&mutes=on
[06:19] <elkbuntu> plenty of times :)
[06:20] <ubotu> erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:22] <Pici> sigh. I'll adjust the ban accordingly.
[06:22] <Gary> erm, not sure, crazytales doesn't equal crazytales2
[06:23] <Gary> that second nick used to be active in apple, and was okay
[06:23] <Pici> Its ban evasion nonetheless
[06:23] <Gary> oh yes, for cchan, yeah
[06:23] <elkbuntu> Gary, he changes cloak like he changes underwear, there's 3 diff ones just in that tracker history
[06:24] <Gary> most of those crazytales2 bans are in jest, check out gary or gazzak in the ban tracker for similar
[06:26] <Pici> Gary: check out the /msg nickserv info for crazytales, crazytales2 and cchan
[06:28] <Gary> Pici, well done, that links em all nicely
[07:21] <ubotu> Jamesinator called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:22] <nalioth> well, that was easy
[08:24] <wolfsong> hi can someone test the ddc exploit?
[08:24] <PriceChild> Hey wolfsong 
[08:24] <wolfsong> hiya
[08:25] <PriceChild> You're good :)
[08:25] <wolfsong> thanks PriceChild!
[09:00] <ubotu> defrysk called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:56] <Gary> trying to guess if ^yes^ is a troll or not, the nick's IP is indonesian...
[10:04] <Gary> right banned, due to spam and rude words
[10:15] <PriceChild> how random
[10:15] <Gary> yes
[10:15] <Gary> read the logs?
[10:15] <mc44> ^yes^ too
[10:16] <Gary> first -offtopic ban for me too, I was all, wooo, hope I do it right
[10:16] <Gary> I cannot comment on the bantracker though
[10:17] <mc44> Gary: well you probably should have kicked when you banned ;)
[10:17] <Gary> mc44, I had already kicked
[10:18] <Gary> and he came back, and pasted the same thing a few times...
[10:18] <mc44> Gary: I mean simultaneously
[10:18] <Gary> ahh, yeah, I left him sitting there, muted, oops
[10:30] <PriceChild> Gary, standard bans don't mute afaik... they just stop them rejoining.
[10:31] <Gary> PriceChild, I'm sure they stop communications to the channel (well about 50% sure)
[10:32] <Gary> Gary> hey PriceChild 
[10:32] <Gary> [21:31]   * #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot send to channel
[10:32] <Gary> yes, they do
[10:32] <PriceChild> hmm...
[10:32] <PriceChild> Must be +z fooling me...
[10:32] <PriceChild> grrr :)
[10:33] <PriceChild> I could swear the evil nal.ioth said they didn't... ah well... now I really know for sure :P
[10:33] <Gary> see, I knew that, due to Seveas banning me so often :p
[10:34] <PriceChild> no you didn't know that... you were 50% sure :P
[10:34] <Gary> yeah, but thats 'cos I spent the evening in the bar
[10:34] <PriceChild> how rude :)
[10:34] <Gary> i'm only 50% sure of my name :p
[10:35] <nalioth> Gary: that's cuz you change it too often
[10:35] <PriceChild> is it gary.... or gazzak...
[10:35] <PriceChild> who knows :)
[10:36] <nalioth> grouch . . .
[10:36] <PriceChild> Its a funny old world.
[11:10] <OgMaciel> are you guys working too hard today?
[11:11] <Gary> work?  what is that?
[11:11] <OgMaciel> hehehe
[11:11] <Seeker`> Gary is allergic to work
[11:11] <OgMaciel> Figured I'd make you laugh a bit:  http://www.dragonstrider.com/~jtate/pingpong.swf
[11:26] <PriceChild> hehe