[01:11] vidd_laptop: perls isnt in /usr/bin/perl any idea where it is? [01:12] no idea [01:12] cheeseboy: run `which perl` in a terminal, it will tell you where it is. [01:13] look in /usr/lib [01:13] josh@josh:~$ which perl [01:13] /usr/bin/perl [01:13] same here [01:14] maybe you dont have it installed? cheeseboy [01:14] ? [01:15] no its there for w/e reaason it was saying it didnt exist tho === cius [n=cius@c-76-22-206-59.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:15] got webmin running though :) === Catoptromancy [n=catw@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:29] how do i lik a directory to another directory? [01:29] link* [01:29] ln -s targetdir linkfile === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu [01:48] "sda1 has gone 49710 days without being checked" [01:48] errr [01:48] wtf [01:52] doop: "0" time means 1970-01-01 in Unix :) [01:57] but its checked every few weeks [01:57] and 49710 days are 136 years === wireLESS [n=ubuntu@pool-71-170-127-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:57] theres something not cool# :) [01:58] hey guys, i need some help with wireless.. i have a prism54 device, which works when i plug it in, but does not work on reboot/startup until i remove and plug it back in.. so i tested ndiswrapper, but it ONLY works if i have the SSID broadcast enabled, and WEP DISabled... any ideas? i'm reading threads about people saying at least 64bit is working for them, and i REALLY don't want to leave my network wide open [02:00] also, when playing a video via gmplayer in xubuntu, i get an error about gnome's ability to find the xscreensaver to stop it from starting up during a movie (i have to manually kill the xscreensaver daemon, which is a pita)... on my gentoo box xfce and gmplayer work great without any dependancy on gnome's screensaver abilities [02:00] doop: 2007-137 = 1970 [02:01] wireLESS: the latter seems to be a bug, please report it [02:01] ok that's what i was "hoping" for [02:01] that it wasn't just me [02:02] you ARE talking about the screensaver thing right? [02:02] i am reinstalling xubuntu as we speak cuz i installed a bunch of base ubuntu crap to test that (which after all the gnome deps installed it DID remove that error) and couldn't completley remove it [02:02] and i hate gnome [02:06] TheSheep, 2007 - 137 = 1870 when I went to school! [02:06] =] [02:07] maybe he has system time set to 2107? [02:07] bbiaf hopefully [02:08] vidd_laptop: :) [02:10] which mail server app is the best? [02:11] cheeseboy, define "the best" [02:11] !best | cheeseboy [02:11] cheeseboy: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. [02:11] in your opinion* [02:12] postfix is nice [02:12] cheeseboy: it's obvious we can only state our personal opinions here :) === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-209-91.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] I've a networking problem. On a different box I can't get the wired NIC to load. It used to work but I did something screwy to it. It's a 3c905b, and It think the trick would be to just load the correct module. [02:33] cellofellow, try editing your network interfaces files to set am eth1 with the same settings as eth0 [02:33] there are no ethernet devices in ifconfig, just lo === vidd_laptop has seen this issue [02:34] ok [02:34] trust me [02:35] now what? === Aaron_ [n=Aaron@74-130-83-206.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:36] run ifup eth1 [02:37] how do i change the resolution of the login window? [02:37] no such device [02:37] cellofellow, did it work? [02:37] pc starts up and comes to xdm @ 1280x1024, and I log into xubuntu and it changes to 1024x768 (where I want it) [02:37] hrm.... [02:38] cellofellow, do you have other network devices? [02:40] no [02:40] I think it's the drivers. [02:41] What module is for a 3c905b? [02:42] http://www.scyld.com/pipermail/vortex/2000-March/000293.html [02:43] this leads me to believe that it should be in the kernel [02:56] cellofellow, anything? === Random832 [n=random@c-69-136-185-145.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:02] is there a good wireless network selection/control interface? [03:04] define "good" === vidd_laptop likes the default setup === Zagalo [n=Zagalo@85.198.42.17] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] Update Your Opera [03:05] http://hyip-man.blogspot.com/2007/08/opera-javascript-invalid-pointer.html [03:06] the default setup provides no interface to pick a network in roaming mode - i'd like one like with gnome [03:06] an applet to show signal quality in the tray would be nice too [03:06] so get the one in gnome [03:07] but I don't want gnome [03:07] and i don't know what its wireless meter thingy is called anyway === vidd_laptop did not say "get gnome".... he said "get the one in gnome" [03:07] eh [03:07] but won't that depend on all the gnome libs? [03:07] not all of them [03:07] hi all [03:08] in app menu, i see random, what is it? [03:08] i can deal with not having a thing in the tray or whatever; but having some application - any application really, that'll list available networks and let me pick one [03:09] in app menu, i see random, what is it? [03:11] Zagalo, it would be something you installed.....i dont have it [03:11] is there something for xfce like gsynaptics that i can set touchpad options and have it remember for each time i log in? if i use qsynaptics it always forgets [03:12] i dont install random but [03:12] Random832, you could just set the options in xorg === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B9681B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:14] i don't know how - is there a way to find out after setting them in qsynaptics? [03:14] [and it'd be nice if i _didn't_ have to mess with the system settings for something that, as evidenced by gnome, can be done per-user] [03:15] Random832, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/Hardware#Adjust_touchpad_sensitivity [03:17] Random832, if you dont want to configure items by hand, and want something that is available in gnome...then determine the app in gnome and add it [03:19] do gnome control center applets work in xfce? [03:19] yes [03:19] ok [03:19] how do i find out what the gnome app it [03:19] *is [03:20] check the process manager in gnome, look the items up in synaptic [03:20] in app menu, i see random, what is it? [03:21] Update Your Opera [03:21] http://hyip-man.blogspot.com/2007/08/opera-javascript-invalid-pointer.html [03:21] when you see the item that is described that matches what you want to do, apt-get install it (or use synaptic) in xfce [03:21] i don't _have_ gnome - i got rid of it [03:21] Random832, then use the search option in synaptic [03:22] it's not going to tell me "the network status/wireless signal/wireless network picker applet that lives in the tray" [03:22] [and YES i'm sure it was the tray not the panel] [03:23] the tray IS the panel [03:23] yeah [03:23] but it was in the tray area, not as a panel applet [03:23] i'm not an idiot [03:23] it is still a panel app\ [03:23] ... [03:24] ok, fine, the "tray" i'm referring to is called the "notification area" [03:24] meaning the program in question was using the freedesktop.org protocol rather than some gnome-specific stuff to appear in the panel [03:24] when i get done when my update...ill do the legwork for you [03:24] a tray icon is NOT the same thing as a panel applet - tray icons don't even have to be from a gtk app at all [03:26] http://polishlinux.org/stuff/screenshots/ubuntu/ubuntu_dapper_desktop_nautilus_libervisco.png - the gaim icon is a tray icon. the volume control is a panel applet - the difference is that all the tray icons will move as a group if you move the tray (which the grip thing to the left of it is also part of) [03:27] !gnome-netstatus-applet | Random832 [03:28] ok [03:28] Random832, im not an idiot either...you should do your own searches in synaptic...took 3 seconds to find it [03:28] i installed that before and it did not appear to install a program [03:28] you need to add it to you panel for it to work [03:29] I can run /usr/lib/gnome-netstatus/gnome-netstatus-applet and it doesn't put an icon anywhere [03:29] It also did not add anything to the list of things i can add to the panel [03:29] so i uninstalled it and asked in here [03:29] nevermind that the icon i am _looking_ for lives in the notification area / system tray, not directly on the panel [03:29] then try gnome-nettool [03:29] so it shouldn't _be_ something i can move independently of e.g. the gaim icon [03:30] http://kirsten.urbanzone.com/blog/uploads/misc/ubuntu_network_manager.png - it's the thing in this screenshot - do you happen to _know_ what program this is rather than simply guessing? [03:30] no [03:30] is anyone using XDM? === vidd_laptop dont use gnome === The-Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.220.35.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:31] how do i alter the screen res in XDM? [03:32] from what you posted...the name is right there: [03:32] network-manager [03:32] probably network-manager-gnome [03:33] there are several in synaptic [03:35] -> /etc/network/interfaces [03:35] there's your network managment, right there. [03:36] Aaron_, was intended for Random832 [03:36] he is afraid of doing anything by hand [03:37] including searching synaptic for apps [03:37] heh. [03:38] how does XFCE know what screen res to use? [03:39] from the xorg config file === Random833 [n=random@c-69-136-185-145.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:39] I'm looking at it, and I only see a list of available modes and resolutions... not the one it's supposed to use. === wireLESS [n=tvbox@pool-71-170-127-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:40] Aaron_: it generally uses the first one by default. [03:40] although you can specify the default in the xorg.conf file, too. [03:40] where would i file a bug about mplayer complaining about gnome's screensaver service? [03:40] becuase XDM loads in one res that I don't want to use, then XFCE starts and uses a different one, that I previously selected in the XFCE resolution changer. [03:40] Random833, did you get the info i posted? [03:41] Aaron_: so you actually want to know how xdm picks a resolution? [03:42] I really just want XDM and XFCE to stay in sync so I can use x11vnc. [03:42] Aaron_: i have the same problem for my htpc.. it starts at 1024x768, when my max res should be 800x600 [03:42] even though my xorg.conf file is set to only have a 800x600 mode [03:43] that's wacky. [03:43] Aaron_: i thought that xdm used the default from the xorg.conf file, and that xfce keeps individual preferences in its local config files === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:44] it does for me on gentoo [03:44] not in ubuntu [03:45] wireLESS: you really only have one mode in your Screen section? [03:45] yep [03:45] 800x600 === Nomemohes [n=chatzill@host143.201-252-213.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] which REALLY should be 640x480 [03:46] but, that's just too hard on the eyes on my crt tv [03:46] so big, and the windows dont' fit on screen [03:46] i just got it ot stick to 1024. i'll just have to revert back when I want to use 1280 (when the monitor is attached, which is almost never) [03:47] xdm sure is fugly. [03:47] gdm = sexxy :) [03:47] yeah. stinks for VNC though. [03:47] how so? [03:47] it has it's issues when it logs in, or changes to XFCE instead of gnome. [03:48] i think the xubuntu graphics are the best, of all the buntu's [03:48] odd... never had that problem; but there is a setting for default session [03:48] gdm disconnects vnc after you log in, you can connect right back up, but it disconnects. [03:48] odd... i've only done vnc on gentoo [03:49] i'm actually going to install it on this htpc as well [03:49] which pkg are you using? [03:49] x11vnc [03:49] hello, i just want to know where can i find a list of all the commands at the time of boot xubuntu [03:49] yeah that's a good one [03:49] wireLESS, http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/#faq-service [03:49] bookmark that. [03:49] Nomemohes: do you mean the ones that ARE booted, or the ones available? [03:49] Aaron_: roger [03:50] the ones that are availables [03:50] i don't think x11vnc is the fastest one available, but it's the best documented. [03:50] it's really the only one that works for a current session iirc [03:51] right. [03:51] Nomemohes: there's a Services app in the System menu [03:51] but that one sucks imo [03:51] there's anotherone, trying to find it [03:51] i am really lost [03:51] i never try any linux OS [03:51] Nomemohes, what are you trying to do? [03:51] specifically [03:52] probably speed stuff up? i noticed there's a ton of services i dont' care for [03:52] i am tryng to install xubuntu in my machine [03:52] ok [03:52] is there anything on it now? [03:52] but it is and old one [03:52] then xubuntu is a good choice [03:52] i have 10 gb [03:52] it's running on my router. :) 600mhz cele. [03:53] thats all [03:53] i don't think that should be a BIG problem. [03:53] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 [03:53] and i want to leave a partition to some windows [03:53] i'm only using a 10gig partition, another 10 for winblows, and the other 300 for movies/tv [03:53] Nomemohes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 [03:53] i will see it [03:53] thank you [03:54] i think the default runlevel for ubuntu is rc2, which is strange imo, but i come from a gentoo world so don't take my word for anything debian based [03:54] gentoo is from a different planet. [03:55] i love gentoo [03:55] ttorvalds made a comment about gentoo and debian that i don't get. [03:55] i prefer it over any distro; but for my htpc i really didn't wanna spend forever compiling everything just to play movies [03:55] so i opted to test ubuntu [03:55] i have to say, i'm impressed, but i hate the monolithic approach it has === wireLESS [n=tvbox@pool-71-170-127-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] === wireLESS [n=tvbox@pool-71-170-127-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === mikubuntu [n=chatzill@c-76-108-252-28.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:03] i love how i have windows and xubuntu installed side by side, both performing the EXACT same functions, and windows uses 7gig, while xubuntu is using 1.7gig [04:03] and i haven't even started to clean up crap === wireLESS [n=tvbox@pool-71-170-127-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] === somerville32 [n=Guest@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [04:28] anyone around to help me work a screenres issue? thingy helped me today fix a laptop for my friend, and it wasn't till i got done with that, that i realized my res not optimised on this box... anyone know the files offhand that i have to get into to edit? [04:29] gah [04:29] when i asked if gnome control center applets would work in xfce, i meant would the settings take, not would they run :P [04:29] at this point i STILL don't have a solution to my synaptics touchpad program [04:30] is there ANY documentation on what needs to go in xorg.conf? [04:32] is there some online repository of the source code where you can see what the default is in every file? [04:32] like in an orderly fashion? [04:32] and when i try to start nm-applet from autostart, it saves in the session and starts two the next time i log in [04:34] yet when i start it MANUALLY, it, oddly enough, _doesn't_ save in the session [04:34] would be cool to explore (x)ubuntu holographically, in 3d [04:35] isn't that sort of the info presentation style of unix like systems? [04:35] like a googlebuntu flyover [04:36] ya, that would be a great learning tool [04:36] huh? [04:37] what do you mean 'the info presentation style of unix like systems' is 3d? [04:37] i mean, if you mean 'unix' as in 'this is unix, i know this', sure :P [04:37] [yes, it was a real app, but that doesn't really make the scene any more plausible :P [04:38] i don't know, i thought i heard that a long time ago, that unix had such a great way of storing/presenting information [04:38] like very beryl or someting === jgamio [n=jgamio@190.72.32.156] has joined #xubuntu [04:38] beryl does some 3d stuff for window management [04:39] ya, but i'm talking about presenting the whole operating system in a 3d universe, knowhatimean? [04:39] eh - i think i'm going to go back to gnome [04:39] never heard of that [04:40] i swear i'm not crazy [04:40] lol [04:40] xfce is just annoying me now that i've used it a couple days [04:40] it's little things [04:41] like what [04:41] like lack of OSD for the volume keyboard buttons, no coordination between session saving and autostart [04:41] oh, ya ... that [04:42] Random833 - You're welcome to jump on board and help develop :) [04:42] 833? wtf [04:42] stupid irssi [04:43] :) [04:43] I don't know anything about gui programming except in .net [04:43] There is always mono [04:43] lol [04:43] does xfce use any apps in mono? [04:43] and the problems i have are with existing apps :P [04:43] dot NET? [04:46] what about it? [04:47] eh - the main issue with it is that it's the "third" desktop - so external apps of the sort that really need to be integrated with a desktop environment (like gsynaptics) won't get targeted to it === copasetic [n=david@70.240.40.253] has joined #xubuntu [04:47] hello [04:47] so unless everything i need is supported within it, that becomes a problem [04:48] can someone help me [04:48] copasetic: with? [04:48] i'm trying to get sound on my ibook g3 [04:48] why is there no /etc/rc.d/init.d/ ? [04:48] cheeseboy: /etc/init.d/ [04:49] no sound on my g3 ibook [04:49] somerville32 can i link them ? [04:50] anyone [04:54] ok [04:54] anyone alive === copasetic [n=david@70.240.40.253] has joined #xubuntu [04:56] hello [04:57] hey cheeseboy [04:57] Hello [04:57] how can i modify a file [04:58] How would you like to modify the file? [04:58] i don't have sound on my ibook g3 === wireLESS [n=tvbox@pool-71-170-127-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:59] and i like to know how to do it [04:59] or what to do [04:59] anyone around to help me work a screenres issue? thingy helped me today fix a laptop for my friend, and it wasn't till i got done with that, that i realized my res not optimised on this box... anyone know the files offhand that i have to get into to edit? [05:00] anyone [05:00] maybe after i do it a few times i'll be in a position to help the next guy [05:00] mikubuntu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [05:00] copasetic: repeat the question, i didn't see it [05:01] how do i modify a file [05:01] ? [05:01] that's a really vague question [05:01] what are you trying to do? [05:01] wireLESS: i want to get my screenres to 1024 [05:02] i'm trying to get the sound to work on my ibook g3 [05:02] wireLESS: u think you could walk me through it? [05:02] copasetic: did you start alsa-utils? [05:02] no [05:02] how do i do that [05:02] copasetic: in terminal, as root, try: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start [05:03] mikubuntu: it's rather easy, do: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and lok for the lines near the bottom that show resolutions [05:03] you'll be interested in the one that is 24 bit depth [05:03] wireLESS: ya, today we changed that to 16 and that cleaned it up on my friends laptop [05:04] what should happened wireless [05:04] but i still need a little help getting through it i think; couple of things i'm not clear on in steps [05:04] mikubuntu: erm, why did you go to 16? [05:04] copasetic: huh? that's unrelated to wireless [05:05] bbias, i need to ironically test a ch ange in my xorg.conf [05:05] what should happen === wireLESS [n=tvbox@pool-71-170-127-53.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:05] ok back [05:05] wireLESS what happen [05:05] wireLESS: let me see. tell me if i've got it right: open terminal, sudo tomboy /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [05:06] copasetic: with what? [05:06] if tomboy is an editor, yes [05:06] with the /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start [05:06] copasetic: that should start your sound daemon [05:06] did it exit with [OK] ? [05:06] wireLESS: thingy said my vid card wouldn't support 24 after he checked the laptop model number [05:07] mikubuntu: hmm ok [05:07] actually, if you can, post your xorg.conf on www.speedyshare.com and i can help you easier [05:07] wireLESS: ok, i try to open [05:07] wireLESS that didn't work === michaelpo [n=presario@60.51.16.93] has joined #xubuntu [05:08] copasetic: any errors? [05:08] mikubuntu: ok, now what? [05:08] no [05:09] no errors [05:09] copasetic: try running alsamixer to make sure your sounds are not muted, use "m" to unmute channels, in particular the PCM and Master channels [05:09] wireLESS: gonna try to start the process, brb === wireLESS is now known as KlrSp1 [05:10] k === KlrSp1 is now known as KlrSpz [05:10] i don't have a alsamicer [05:11] mixer [05:11] alsamixer [05:11] yes [05:11] should be installed by default [05:11] ok [05:11] i JUST installed xubuntu literally about 20 min ago and i have it without installinga single package [05:11] ok [05:12] well no sound for me [05:12] are you on a laptop? [05:12] yes [05:12] ibook [05:12] KlrSpz: hmmmm, tomboy failed. actually this box is ubuntu, the one i worked on today was x and had mousepad for text editor [05:13] hmm... do an: lspci | grep -i audio [05:13] paste the line here [05:13] mikubuntu: what do you mean tomboy failed [05:13] KlrSpz: here rheres one called 'text editor' would i do sudo text editor /etc/ ....'? [05:14] don't know, it said failed somehow, and so i closed it [05:14] maybe i have to add mousepad to my toolkit here for simplicity? [05:15] mikubuntu: just use nano [05:15] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [05:15] it's a command line editor [05:15] don't know if i have it installed? [05:15] lemme see [05:15] should, it's a default app [05:17] hey i got it i hope it works [05:18] KlrSpz: ok, got it open with nano, do you want me to pastebin it? [05:18] yeah, or just go to www.speedyshare.com and upload it [05:18] that's probably easier [05:19] how do i upload it? === corrupt [i=user@128.227.195.76] has joined #xubuntu [05:19] click the browse button and pick the file [05:20] should i install feisty fawn or dapper drake? [05:20] oh, ok, browse it and upload it? [05:20] brb [05:23] KlrSpz: http://www.speedyshare.com/489764775.html [05:23] oh, ya, i like speedyshare [05:24] well you still have it set to 24 bit, but it looks like it's at 1024x768 [05:25] KlrSpz: i thought you wanted to check it before i changed to 16? [05:25] KlrSpz: so i should just change it, save it, and reboot? [05:26] oh np [05:26] i haven't ever seen a computer in the past 10 years not support 24 bit though [05:27] KlrSpz: so is there something else we should look at? i know we looked at some /var/log today, but i don't remember if it was the same issue :( [05:28] KlrSpz: that's what happens when your brain shrinks [05:29] KlrSpz: well, guess i could just go change it, and if that don't solve it, change it back, huh? [05:30] so keep it at 24, save the file, and do the 3 finger salute (CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE) to restart X, then use speedyshare to upload your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [05:31] you mean i have to save it and restart because i already opened it with nano? === mikubuntu is a dumdum, has to confirm every move === litlebuda [n=linux@87-196-95-130.net.novis.pt] has joined #xubuntu [05:36] KlrSpz: nano doesn't have a SAVE in the file menu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.51.16.93] has left #xubuntu [] [05:38] KlrSpz: help, i'm stuck ... don't see how to save in nano === bigfuzzyjesus_ [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu [05:44] sorry i've been doing all kidns of stuff [05:44] mikubuntu: do CTRL+X [05:44] then Y [05:44] then ENTER [05:45] KlrSpz: k, lemme try [05:47] KlrSpz: said command not found, then everything disappeared. did i just fry my xorg? === BellagioSampler [i=Hugo@wm118-223.resnet.wm.edu] has joined #xubuntu [05:51] KlrSpz: do you think i could have just screwed it up royally? [05:53] KlrSpz: says bash: y: command not found [05:54] mikubuntu, what are you trying to do.... you just told bash to run y [05:55] Jester45: KlrSpz said to do ctrl plus x, then y, then enter in nano editing xorg.conf to save, i don't know if it did it or if i fried it.... [05:57] after nano is open and you edit it press ctrl x [05:57] it will ask to say [05:57] save* [05:57] thats when you press y [05:57] Jester45: should i sudo nano xorg again? [05:57] yea [05:57] Jester45: is it *too late*? [05:58] it looks like you allready exited nano [05:58] Jester45: arrrrggghhh, so now what do i do? i screwed? [05:58] o and i dont know if you where the person but someone rebooted to let the settings get changed [05:59] Jester45: no i haven't rebooted [05:59] but you can change them with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [05:59] Jester45: do that now? [06:00] **it will close all windows giving no time to save [06:00] if you have changed your settings [06:00] Jester45: no, i hadn't made any changes [06:01] are you stuck in text only? or do you have a gui [06:02] Jester45: i uploaded the xorg.conf file to speedyshare, can i, or do i need to retrieve it? i wish i would have just left well enough alone ... [06:02] i dont know what that is [06:02] speedyshare.com like pastebin [06:03] Jester45: http://www.speedyshare.com/489764775.html [06:04] ok... what about it [06:04] is that the edited version? === BellagioSampler [i=Hugo@wm118-223.resnet.wm.edu] has joined #xubuntu [06:07]