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nosrednaekimDevideZero: it does work or DOESN't work?12:37
ScorpKingjork: tried aptitude search torrent?12:38
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Jorkno, didnt try12:39
Jorkbut is not there neither12:39
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ScorpKingtry a manual install12:40
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adeniciomm manul?12:40
nosrednaekimJork: try searchng for a .deb on google?12:41
ScorpKingdownload source, make and install :)12:41
adeniciook im running in english now tanks12:41
Jorknosrednaekim: I downloaded a .deb, but how do I install it?12:41
geniiJork: It's in backports. enable it , do apt-get update and now you should have a package to install for it12:41
DevideZeronosrednaekim , after i install and reboot i have no graphic ( only tty1 - tty6 )12:41
Jorkgenii: backports?12:42
nosrednaekimJork: "sudo dpkg -i <deb>"12:42
geniiJork: Yes.12:42
nosrednaekimDevideZero: which graphics driver?12:42
adenicioinaety_: i install bluez but im not seing it in the k-menu12:42
anon32!repositories | Jork12:42
ubotuJork: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:42
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Jorkgenii: how do I enable it?12:42
nosrednaekim!graphics | DevideZero12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
nosrednaekim!nvidia | DevideZero12:42
ubotuDevideZero: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:42
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anon32Jork, did you even spend the 5 seconds to read what I wrote?12:43
Scorpaenhey folks i'm stuck in a console. tonights updates broke my xorg it seems12:43
anon32hmm?12:43
anon32can you downgrade?12:43
Jorkanon32: I just reading it12:43
Scorpaenanon32: or it might be kdm that's broken. it failed to update12:43
adeniciono update12:43
DevideZeronosrednaekim , geforce 5200 fx , and i know how to install it in ubuntu i had no problem12:43
geniiJork: edit with admin privelege /etc/apt/sources.list    remove # before the 2 entries for backports. save the changes. do sudo apt-get update. then you should be able to install it12:43
anon32Scorpaen, ah12:43
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Scorpaenanon32: i'm on gutsy12:44
adeniciooh12:44
anon32#ubuntu+112:44
Scorpaenthanks12:44
adeniciooh12:44
anon32I haven't seen any X updates though12:44
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nosrednaekimDevideZero: run this on the command line "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:44
Jorkthank you genii!!12:44
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geniiJork: np12:45
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Jorkgenii:  is not in backports12:46
JorkI enabled it and updated the list12:47
genii!info deluge-torrent12:47
Jork!info deluge-torrent12:47
DevideZeronosrednaekim , this should reinstall the driver or fix somthing ?12:47
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geniibah ubotu is off it seems12:47
ubotuPackage deluge-torrent does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:47
Jork!info deluge12:48
ubotuPackage deluge does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:48
genii!info deluge-torrent edgy12:48
ubotuPackage deluge-torrent does not exist in edgy12:48
nosrednaekimDevideZero: it will give you a config so that you can choose your graphics driver12:48
geniiThat makes no sense. For instance, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy-backports/net/deluge-torrent12:49
Jorkhaha12:49
geniiAlso I see it with apt-cache on my box12:50
BluesKajJork, so you are running ubuntu/gnome , not kubuntu/kde ?12:50
Jorkim running Kubuntu12:50
BluesKajthen whynot use ktorrent ?12:50
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Jorkthey told me deluge is like utorrent12:51
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JorkIm used to utorrent, I wanted to try it12:51
BluesKajktorrent is very much like utorrent too12:51
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BluesKajexcept it's better :)12:52
Jorkreally?12:52
anon32no12:52
anon32:-)12:52
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BluesKajmore functions12:52
Jorkhaha12:52
anon32BluesKaj, less I find, actually12:52
anon32at the very least, it's less verbose in output12:52
Jorkanon32 did you try deluge?12:52
anon32nah12:52
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JorkIm getting an error trying to install the .deb with kpackage12:54
nosrednaekimdon't use kpackage12:54
Jorkok12:54
inaety_adenicio: then open it in a terminal...12:55
nosrednaekimJork: use adept12:55
JorkI open it with adept?12:55
geniijork: get http://download.deluge-torrent.org/ubuntu/feisty/0.5.4.1/deluge-torrent_0.5.4.1-1_i386.deb           then in console in same directory, sudo dpkg -i deluge-torrent_0.5.4.1-1_i386.deb12:56
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Jorkgenii: I did that12:56
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BluesKajwell anon I prefer not to run apps in wine that's why i got into linux12:56
Jorkbut it says that there are things that I have to install12:56
BluesKajto avoid windows if at all possible12:56
geniiJork: The dependecies you need first are on this page. http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/ubuntu-feisty-fawn-1/software-for-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/deluge-torrent-on-ubuntu-feisty-fawn12:57
geniiexcept the url I gave is for a newer deb file12:57
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JorkI have to install them one by one?12:57
geniiJork: No, you can do like: sudo apt-get install thing1 thing2 thing3 thing4       etc in a single shot12:58
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Jorkoh, ok12:58
Jorkdidnt know that12:58
CPrompt^anyone do any Python programming?12:59
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adenicioinaety_: can i install ares(p2p)with lime wire?if yes how?12:59
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BluesKajheh, 3 copy&pastes from the page and yer done01:00
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nosrednaekimCPrompt^: a little... why?01:01
CPrompt^was wondering a good ide to use to build gui.01:01
Jorkgenii: I got it working! thank you very much, ok?01:01
geniijork: Good to hear :)01:01
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inaety_adenicio: GiFT01:02
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nosrednaekimCPrompt^: qt-designer can't be beaten if you are doing qt devlopment01:02
CPrompt^nosrednaekim : i have qt3 with the python plugins but not sure if that is right.01:02
nosrednaekimeric is a good programming ide01:02
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geniibah All my mice are messed. I'm sure it's because no ps2 mouse port on this mb so using a usb->ps2 adapter01:03
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nosrednaekimCPrompt^: pyqt? yeah.. thats good enough... start writing :)01:03
CPrompt^nosrednaekim : yeah.  that's what I was playing with yesterday.  Is there a good site on how to use Python with Qt?01:03
BioVorEnot really..01:03
nosrednaekimhmm IDK... I kinda just learned by looking at code.01:04
nosrednaekimCPrompt^: do you know python?01:04
BioVorECPrompt^: http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~afedosov/qttut/ <-- the only one I found when I was doing that stuff..01:04
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BioVorEThere is a good book though..01:04
CPrompt^nosrednaekim : not that well.  just command line stuff.  I do program though.  Mostly PHP01:04
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nosrednaekimCPrompt^: well, i'd reccomned getting a book on python first, and learning the language really wel01:05
nosrednaekimhave to go.. bye01:05
adenicioinaety_: GIFT,,,??? WA IS THAT?01:05
inaety_adenicio: ... www.google.com01:06
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arriespbye01:08
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adenicioinaety_:  lol01:08
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adenicioinaety_: so u are saying google is my friend then ?lol01:09
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BioVorEhehe01:09
adenicioinaety_: and ffor limewire?01:09
hashfreakany one from germany01:09
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hashfreak?01:10
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BluesKaj!de | hashfreak01:12
ubotuhashfreak: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:12
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inaety_adenicio: okay limewire is just a frontend for the Gnutella network...all it does is use the Gnutella netowrk.  Gift uses plugins to connect to networks such as Gnutella and Ares and a few more all in more daemon..thus you can get a Qt GUI for it (apollon) and search it from there and such...no more need for limewire because it sucks anyways...01:14
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mankeletoranyone can tell where's the inittab config file?01:17
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adenicioinaety_: ok a friend try to view his webcam but all im seing is green no pic watsoever01:25
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adeniciomankeletor: wat do u want to do with the file modify it?01:25
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inaety_adenicio: i cannot help you with webcams, sorry i've ne ver used one in my life01:28
adenicionever01:28
adeniciook01:28
inaety_yeah typo sorry01:28
adenicioinaety_: i got problem viewin some streaming from a web site with konqueror.it does play the vidos,and with firefox it say cannot connect to this link etc01:29
adenicioinaety_: befor it work when i was installin real player but now nothing01:30
inaety_adenicio: what file are you tryping to play01:30
adenicioinaety_: its not a file it's a video like on youtube01:31
inaety_so it's flash?01:31
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adenicioi ask a friend to try the link for me he says its working for him with konkeror01:32
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adenicioinaety_:01:32
BioVorEyoutube is a flash thing..01:32
BioVorEflash 901:32
inaetyadenicio: if it's flash player then install flash plugin, rescan for flash for plugins and then restart konqueror if really so desired...then try again01:33
adeniciowell the site is a flash thing too*01:33
adeniciolol01:33
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inaetythank you BioVorE01:33
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adenicioinaety_: adept stick on instaling some packs"fail to open device"how do i make it skip?im instaling gift01:35
adenicioinaety_: kill it?01:35
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adenicioi killed it lol01:36
vit__holaa01:36
vit__holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa01:36
vit__ajvsdkvdv01:36
vit__vdjvdsmv01:36
cloakableO.o01:36
vit__maldito linux01:36
adenicioinaety: crap actualy it had stick because i had to full out something lol i didnt see it it was hidding01:37
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p3t3r0xxxanyone speek english?01:38
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Angelusi do01:38
adenicioi do01:38
shinobianyone have suggestion for editing vcards?01:38
p3t3r0xxxhi angelus.01:38
p3t3r0xxxanyone know if kubuntu supports wireless cards in vmware?01:39
adenicioBioVorE: theres no flash 9 in adept01:39
Angelushmm01:39
Angelusp3t3r0xxx: thats not about kubuntu thats about vmware, if vmware suports them, then np01:39
p3t3r0xxxhmm vmware only sees the ethernet card card so I guess not :(01:40
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p3t3r0xxxAngelus what is a good package manager for ubuntu?01:40
BluesKajsynaptic01:40
Angelusi dont use ubuntu01:40
Angelusi use kubuntu01:40
Angelusi dont like gnome01:40
p3t3r0xxxI am using kubuntu01:41
BluesKajthis is akubuntu chat , p3t3r0xxx01:41
linux_user400354how can i get alsalibs to compile in 32 bit for support for 32 bit apps on a 64 bit system?01:41
BluesKajwell then yer in the right place :)01:41
adenicio#ubuntu01:41
p3t3r0xxxkewlz01:41
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p3t3r0xxxsynaptic is a pckmgr?01:41
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BluesKajyes01:42
BluesKajas is adept and apt01:42
p3t3r0xxxwhat is the quickest way to install it from  a new install01:43
BluesKajadept works well too, I suggested synaptic cuz i thot you were on ubuntu01:44
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p3t3r0xxxwill synaptic work with kubuntu?01:45
adenicioBluesKaj: konqueror dont want to uninstall01:45
BluesKajyes p3t3r0xxx01:46
BluesKajadenicio, what distro are you on ?01:46
adenicioBluesKaj: distro?01:47
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BluesKajubuntu or kubuntu ?01:47
adeniciofeisty 7.0401:47
inaetyadenicio: i dont understand01:48
p3t3r0xxxThanks guys01:48
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inaetyadenicio: but i cant talk i have to do chemistry homework. good luck night01:48
BluesKajadenicio, i think you need to install kubuntu-desktop01:49
adenicioinaety: k01:49
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adenicioBluesKaj: feisty is kubuntu01:49
BluesKajit's also ubuntu01:49
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ivanhey have anyone here installed  compi fusion???01:50
adenicioBluesKaj: abon?01:50
adenicioBluesKaj: i said 7.0401:50
BluesKajif you don't have kubuntu-desktop then konq prolly won't install01:50
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BluesKajit's part of kubuntu-desktop actually01:51
steiner01hello01:51
BluesKajhi steiner0101:52
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adenicioBluesKaj: konqueror not playing a flash video from a website wat do i have to install for it to play?01:55
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shinobistupid question. there is 'simple' or 'full' version of the vcard editor. it's an option in setting of kaddressbooks01:57
monolithTheoreticly, How much lag would takeing a 1080p HD signal in though a HD capture card, upscaleing it to display at 2560x1600 and outputting it to a monitor preduce?01:58
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adeniciomonolith: why firefox dont want to uninstall?02:00
BluesKajadenicio, install flashplayer-nonfree , then in konqueror/sttings/configure konqueror/ select plugins/ sacn plugins/ click on default02:00
BluesKajer scan plugins02:01
mlusercan some one please tell me how to regenerate the graphical boot screen to 1400x1050 instead of the 1600x1200 it did during the initial install?02:01
adenicioBluesKaj: it cant find the flashplayer-nonfree02:02
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BluesKajoops sorry adencio , flashplugin-nonfree02:03
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genii!helpersnack | BluesKaj02:03
ubotuBluesKaj: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!02:03
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BluesKajthx for the cookie , ubotu and genii :)02:04
sumguy231 /away02:04
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adeniciolol02:05
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adenicioBluesKaj: i did what u said the i got the sound but no picture(video)02:06
rustalotHey, I used to use Automatix to install a bunch of stuff (mostly codecs & decss), but it's a new install and so I figured I'm going to /not/ break my system, so I was wondering: Can I get all the proprietary codecs & deCSS through Adept?02:07
rustalotOr do I need special repos?02:08
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drifrustalot: define codecs02:08
ivanhey how do i install xgl on kubuntu??02:09
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BluesKajadenicio, install java-commom and j2re1.4 with adept02:09
ivan!xgl02:09
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:09
adeniciorustalot: install libxine-extracodecs and amorok will play all types of music and kaffein too.if some dont play install vlc02:09
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BluesKajjava-common02:10
ivanheelp02:10
geniiivan: You didn't even take time yet obviously to go to the link that the bot gave you.02:12
BluesKajrustalot, the seveas or medibuntu repos will have what you need02:12
adenicioBluesKaj: java common was install allready but  j2re1.4 i dont see it02:12
BluesKajwhere are you looking adenicio ?02:13
adenicioadept maneger02:13
BluesKajjust enter java in the search02:14
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ivangenii: i got there02:15
ivangenii: didnt help me02:15
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adenicioBluesKaj: that is to much to look at02:18
geniiivan From this page are 4 links you may find useful, in the XGL/AIGLX section http://www.linuxmonitor.net/blog/2007/03/ubuntu-customization-guide-part-i.html02:19
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BluesKajthen , sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 in the konsole02:19
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=== BluesKaj getting tired of holding ppl's hands ...gonna take break and watch some tv with wifey for awhile :)
jon_Do you guys know a GOOD alternative to amule??02:23
anon32emule02:23
jon_for linux?02:23
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geniijon_: You can always choose one from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_eDonkey_software02:25
jon_thank you genii02:26
KrAmMeRdoes anyone use apollon?02:26
KrAmMeRi'm having trouble connection to the networks02:26
geniijon_: np02:26
KrAmMeRconnecting*02:26
sumguy231KrAmMeR: I use it occasionally, it usually takes a minute or two to connect to all of the networks.02:27
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KrAmMeRyeh i've had it open for a while02:27
KrAmMeRand it still says connecting...do certain ports need to be opened?02:28
sumguy231As far as I remember, I didn't have to do anything special to get it to connect, but it's been a while. I don't really know.02:29
KrAmMeRhmm02:29
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geniiKrAmMeR: Open up port 121402:31
geniiKrAmMeR: Or forward it on your router, etc to the computer02:31
KrAmMeRright02:31
KrAmMeRk ill try that02:32
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KrAmMeRsays thats kazaa/morpheus/imesh02:32
KrAmMeRactually i already have that open...02:33
geniiKrAmMeR: Do you have the giFT daemon running?02:33
geniieg: giftd02:34
KrAmMeRi know i downloaded it...02:34
KrAmMeRit doesn't start automatically when starting apollon?02:35
geniiKrAmMeR: try ps ax|grep giftd02:35
KrAmMeR16194 ?        S      0:00 giftd02:35
KrAmMeR16325 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep giftd02:36
KrAmMeRhas those02:36
geniiKrAmMeR: OK. Outta ideas then02:36
KrAmMeRdoh02:36
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geniiIf it's making a log you could try to look at that for some clues02:37
benguys i need some advice please02:37
KrAmMeRok i'll see if thers one anywhere02:37
KrAmMeRthanks02:37
rustalotCan someone help me with step 6 of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509408 ?02:37
benanyone?02:38
ivangenii: i cant install compiz fusion because it says it cant install compiz-decorator02:39
geniiKrAmMeR: Did you also run the program gift-setup ?02:39
sumguy231ben: Well, what's your advice already?02:40
geniiivan: Do you know how to use the pastebin website?02:40
sumguy231Er, I mean... what do you need?02:40
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geniiben: Best to say what you need advice with rather than just ageneralised plea for assistance02:40
evjunior09Can anyone tell me why i cant play music from a CD?02:40
bensumguy well when i tried to look at i drive earlier on whih is my secondry hdd it said it hadnt been formatted... i guess it had been wiped02:40
evjunior09my drive works and all, but my music players freeze when i wanna play one, and same for my friend02:41
josiah!k9copy02:41
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:41
evjunior09CD's, not DVD's02:41
benhowever the info is back now and linux loads can anyone explain?02:41
ivangenii: no im a noob02:41
josiahhaha no sorry evjunior09 that was for me :)02:41
evjunior09lol oh okay02:41
genii!pastebin | ivan02:42
ubotuivan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:42
evjunior09Has anyone else that this problem?02:42
sumguy231ben: Wait, what reported it as not formatted? What is on the drive?02:42
adenicioBluesKaj: u there?i still dont have no pic for the flash on the website02:42
geniiivan: So what I need is for you to copy and paste whatever errors/messages it is giving you onto that site. then report the url the pastebin gives you back here so I can go see what you see.02:42
ivangenii: eventhough its in spanish02:43
ivangenii: ??02:43
bensumguy linux was on it as a n operating system i noticed it cos i dual boot linucx wudnt boot up so i used the secondry o/p system and noticed that my computer said the drive was blank02:43
geniiivan: I'll muddle through :)02:43
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geniiadenicio: BluesKaj is taking a breather to watch TV02:44
xpticalHi all.02:44
bensumguy when i right clicked to explre it said the drive wasnt formatted02:44
xpticalIn Ubuntu, I can switch users without logging the first user off.  Does Kybuntu have the same thing?02:44
ivangenii: ok thankls02:45
sumguy231ben: From Windows? I could see it as thinking that, since it can't read ext3.02:45
sumguy231xptical: K -> Switch User.02:45
beni left the pc for a while switched off and its fine now02:45
adeniciogenii: there manythings better that tv.witch one is helpin me out02:45
xpticalkk02:45
xpticalThanks02:45
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bensumguy it has found linux fine and booted up but im wondering what caused it and if i should take any action to prevent it happening02:46
geniiadenicio: I'm sure he'll return, not logged off yet02:46
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adeniciogenii: can u help me?02:46
xpticalShould I use the AMD 64 release?  I have a AMD64 proc.  I ask because WinXP64 is shit.  Just want to know if Kubuntu-64 is also, well, you know, shit.02:47
sumguy231ben: I don't think it's a formatting problem, but here's a guess: I have a hard drive (system partition) which had a bad cable, and it would regularly disconnect and either freeze the system (kernel panic) or keep it from booting. Maybe check that if it's on a separate physical drive from windows.02:47
geniiadenicio: I'm already helping someone else right now. Besides which i'm not great at troubleshooting flash stuff.02:47
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bensumguy its not i think if i remember i drive is a partition of the drive windows is on too i think... but i thought i had lost everything on it was a bit worrying02:48
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adeniciogenii: were is stbin?or runelevent?they on vacation?stbin helps a lot02:48
geniiivan: I'm away from my computer for a few minutes but I'm returning. In case you get anxious if no immediate reply :)02:49
sumguy231Once again, was there an error booting? I don't think this necessarily means your partition is in danger right now, it sounds like it could be a number of things.02:49
geniiadenicio: LOL I think you mean stdin and runleventen. I haven't seen them much tonight02:49
geniiAFK02:49
adeniciook02:50
bensumguy yeah it wudnt boot at all. nor would it let me see what was on the drive it semed as if i was blank02:50
benseems fine now th02:50
benthough*02:50
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elite101hello02:51
rustalotcan I pause apt downloads in Adept?02:52
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Elendil^^i've installed compiz fusion and even got the fusion icon. my problem now is every time i boot up, theres no window deco. i have to run emerald -replace eveytime. is there a workaround?02:53
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sumguy231ben: see if you have a /var/log/boot.log file. If you do, look at it. I don't for some reason, though I could swear it's supposed to be there. There is a /var/log/boot, though it seems to have binary data in it.02:53
sumguy231I think it might be fine, but keep an eye on it.02:54
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jhutchinsadenicio: RE: Flash, there's no charge for it, but it's not a free license.02:54
sumguy231Elendil^^: You can put a script that starts emerald --replace in ~/.kde/Autostart as a workaround.02:55
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elite101hello02:55
adenicioelite101: are u good with helpin domain with flas?02:56
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adeniciojhutchins:02:56
elite101what?02:56
versshould i use ktorrent or azureus02:56
elite101flacs*02:56
elite101ohh you again02:56
adeniciolol sorry flash02:56
elite101no cant say i am? you mean getting flash working?02:56
geniiback02:57
sumguy231vers: Personal opinion, but I prefer ktorrent by a mile.02:57
Elendil^^sumguy231: : not sure i know how to do that :) can u help me out?02:57
versthanks man02:57
JorkCan anyone tell my which java I have to install to java on the browser?02:57
sumguy231Elendil^^: Hold on a minute.02:57
elite101why is it when i sau hello the room lights up with life?02:57
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elite101lol02:57
Jorkvers: use deluge!02:57
adenicioweell elite101 konqueror i cant see the video just the sound i can hair02:57
adeniciohear02:57
verswhere can i get it?02:58
adeniciosorry for my bad english02:58
versim new to this02:58
elite101lol adenicio do u have it enabled in the broswer?02:58
Jorkhttp://deluge-torrent.org/02:58
elite101the flash02:58
verscool02:58
sumguy231Elendil^^: This should do you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35619/ (I hope I'm doing this pastebin thing right. ;) )02:58
KrAmMeRgenii: na i didn't run that02:59
elite101thast weird i never had that happen only the audio plays and not the movie?02:59
KrAmMeRi just installed it from apt02:59
elite101well video*02:59
jhutchins!java | Jork02:59
ubotuJork: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:59
adenicioelite101: mm where do u enable it?it shows the video on youtube but not the site i want02:59
sumguy231Elendil^^: Save that, type 'chmod +x <name of script>' and put it in .kde/Autostart in your home directory.02:59
nico__quit02:59
Jorkthanks jhutchins02:59
elite101im sorry not the site?02:59
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elite101adenicio, how did you install flash from? adept?03:00
adenicioyes03:00
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adenicioi tink03:00
Elendil^^sumguy231: ok. ill try it. thanks03:00
bomberanyone have a problem with internet cutting out when you put a load on it in feisty fawn?03:01
geniiKrAmMeR: Perhaps see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/internet.html  where it has Apollon. Dapper centric but likely applicable03:01
elite101mhm well people have problems with flash for konqueror but what i did if you want is sudo apt-get install firefox then i went to a site requesting flash and then Firefox installed the plugin and it worked on both Konqeuror and fire fox03:01
versjork: where do u find your torrents03:01
elite101i happen to use firefox more than konqueror and vise versa some days03:01
Jorkwww.mininova.org03:02
Jorkwww.torrentspy.com03:02
elite101vers, www.thepiratebay.com www.bitoogle.com www.isohunt.com03:02
Jorkwww.torrentz.com03:02
elite101there are like thousands03:02
versbtjunky.com?03:03
Jorkalso03:03
elite101lol i personally like tpb03:03
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Jorkbut I dont like it03:03
Jorkbad quality torrents03:03
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elite101there is deminoid torrent03:03
JorkI like mininova.org03:03
matiasHi guys03:03
versyeah ive noticed03:04
elite101matias, hello03:04
adenicioelite101: firefox giving me problem even worst.it give me an error about it cant connetc to this hppt thing watever.only konqueror plays the video well the sound only03:04
matiasI`m having problems installing Vmware03:04
elite101wow did you happen to mess something up?03:04
versthanks jork03:04
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elite101it cant connect to the HTTP server?03:04
Jorknp vers03:05
adenicioelite101: i tink all started with trying to install real player03:05
elite101lol realplayer?03:05
adenicioyes03:05
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elite101the only thing i heard of that was for windoze03:05
Elendil^^sumguy231: it worked perfectly ( i bet u knew it would) thanks a lot03:05
elite101why do you need real player adenicio,03:06
adenicioelite101: well its install on my linux.then everything was playing untill i restart the pc then problems03:06
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elite101ahh well i cant really tell on what the problem is? are you sure it installed properlly?03:06
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adenicioelite101: the website that i wanted to view the flash ask me to install realplayer to view the video from firefox03:07
elite101adenicio, try removing the realplayer and re-installing it03:07
elite101realplayer?03:07
elite101it should be java03:07
elite101i mean sorry03:07
matiasGuys I`m having problems installing Vmware it told me  where is the C headers03:07
elite101flash*03:07
Biovorewell I am convinced knetworkmanger is gay.... :-/03:07
elite101:P03:07
BiovoreMaybe time to make one that dosn't suck..03:07
elite101who is it gay? or well correct term "stupid"03:07
Biovoreyeah..03:08
elite101how is it? works good for me03:08
elite101connects evertime i log on and stuff03:08
adenicioelite101: i forgot how to install realplayer it was in a bin extention.and real player is install on my descktop03:08
elite101adenicio, what website03:08
BiovoreWell I unpluged my wired network for 2 seconds then plugged it back in..  knetwork manger went nuts and started sucking 100% CPU..03:08
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sanzanrickubuntunewbie: hey, my wifi was lost when my building lost power, sorry. Were you able to install pidgin?03:08
yurimxpxmando any of you know what the status of using OOXML files in OpenOffice.org is?03:08
BiovoreCool Idea.. bad implementation..03:08
adenicioelite101: if i told u the website they will kick me out like the last time03:09
rustalotAmarok keeps crashing.. I tried apt-get remove --purge amarok && apt-get install amarok, but it didn't work03:09
elite101adenicio, meet me in the channel /elite101-help03:09
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adenicioelite101: how do i get in that chanel?03:09
elite101adenicio, meet me in the #elite101-help channel03:09
elite101click on it03:09
elite101or "/join #elite101-help"03:10
elite101type it in and press enter03:10
sanzanricdid anybody ever helped kubuntunewbie install pidgin?03:11
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geniisanzanric: Looks like not03:18
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mariahi everyone03:19
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ivangenii: my computer fucked up and had to restart what was te url?03:19
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geniiivan: Ah, OK :)03:21
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nosrednaekim!ohmy03:21
spistop03:21
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:21
spiq03:21
genii!pastebin | ivan03:21
ubotuivan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:21
adeniciospi lol03:21
elite101!adept03:21
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:21
elite101wtf?03:21
elite101!adept | broken03:21
ubotubroken: please see above03:21
nosrednaekim!adeptfix03:22
elite101why isnt it showing the command line ?03:22
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:22
elite101thanks03:22
mariaI can't start kde03:22
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adenicionosrednaekim: i cant get true to read your name03:22
elite101adenicio, there you go: sudo dpkg --configure -a03:22
mariaafter I login whit kdm, kdm sart another time03:23
mariacan anybody help me?03:23
nosrednaekimmaria: any errors?03:23
mariano nosrednaekim nothing03:23
geniuscomo entrar al chanel en espaol03:23
marianosrednaekim: just kdm starts again03:23
nosrednaekim!es03:23
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:23
mariagenius: debe ser algo asi como #kubuntu-es03:23
ivangenii: posted03:24
geniusgracias!!03:24
nosrednaekimmaria: how did you install kde?03:24
nosrednaekimivan: link pls03:24
adenicio!ohmy / elite10103:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ohmy / elite101 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:24
maria~osrednaekim: whit kubuntu 7.0403:24
geniiivan: Ok, please put here the URL pastebin gave you03:24
adenicio!ohmy03:24
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:24
adeniciolol03:24
ivangenii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35621/03:25
geniiivan: Thanks.Reading03:25
nosrednaekimmaria: this is a fresh installation?03:25
marianosrednaekim: yes03:25
sanzanric!ohmy |adenicio03:25
ubotuadenicio: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:25
Jucato!botabuse03:25
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...03:25
marianosrednaekim: but I have no problem for severals weeks03:25
elite101:P03:25
adeniciosanzanric: how do u do the line?03:25
nosrednaekimmaria: did you do any updates, or change anything?03:25
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sanzanricwhat are we talking about?03:26
geniihmm03:26
genii!info compiz-decorator03:26
ubotuPackage compiz-decorator does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:26
adeniciosanzanric:  #offtopic03:26
marianosrednaekim: yes, the upgrade "automatics" (sorry about me english)03:26
nosrednaekimthe automatic upgrades, or the program automatix?03:27
marianosrednaekim: NO with automatix03:27
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anon32heh03:27
elite101!offtopic | adenicio03:27
ubotuadenicio: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:27
sanzanricadenicio: i just joined the conversation.03:27
marianosrednaekim: whit the program that advice you about the upgrades03:27
nosrednaekimNot with automatix, so with the adept updater?03:27
nosrednaekimmaria: ah.. ok.03:28
nosrednaekimmaria: you are on a different computer now?03:28
mariayes adept updater03:28
adenicioelite101: tanks but it was for sanzanric03:28
adeniciolol03:28
elite101lol03:28
sanzanricelite101: thanks03:28
mariano, I do control f1 alt03:28
elite101np :P i always wanted to do that03:28
adeniciolol03:28
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adenicio!play03:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about play - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:29
nosrednaekimmaria: so you are on the command line?03:29
Jucatoadenicio: please stop playing with the bot03:29
marianosrednaekim: yes, cli03:29
sanzanriclol03:29
adenicioJucato: i was just about to say that lol03:29
marianosrednaekim: sorry for be unclear when I write03:29
elite101adenicio, why dont you tell them what video and website you wanna get working?03:29
geniiivan: I think you may find help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=292774203:29
elite101:P hhahhaa03:30
adenicioelite101: lol u crayzy03:30
elite101:P03:30
nosrednaekimmaria: ok, run these two commands "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" and then "startkde" and see what error message it gives you.03:30
nosrednaekimmaria: its fin :)03:30
mariaI'm must sound like Yoda, jajaj03:30
geniiivan: Are you using the amd64 ubuntu?03:30
nosrednaekim*its fine03:30
adenicioelite101: u want me get my butt kick like last time03:30
marianosrednaekim: thanks!03:30
elite101lol really?03:30
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elite101u got kicked03:30
mariawhat "fin" means?03:31
ivangenii: thinkso amd64 kubuntu03:31
elite101:\ wouldnt blame em'03:31
mariaoh03:31
adenicioelite101:  stdin lol at me :-D03:31
geniiivan: I thought so. Then that link is correct for you.03:31
nosrednaekimmaria: not the spanish fin... lol03:31
ivangenii: thats for gnome isnt it??03:31
elite101for me it shows "<grin.>? when u do something it shows grin and in between <>?03:32
elite101probably because of this nIRC03:32
ivangenii: where do i fing the trevinos repositories??03:32
geniiivan: For both. Just they are using gksudo gedit there which is for gnome. Use instead kdesu kate wherever it says gksudo gedit. that is all03:32
ivangedii: where i find the trevinos repositories??03:33
geniiivan: At the bottom of that page is what to add to your /etc/apt/sources.list   (the trevino repositories URLs etc)03:33
adenicioelite101: look wa i did in #kubuntu-offtopic03:33
elite101adenicio, i *DONT* hope you get your problem fixed but only for youtube purpose's ;)03:33
marianosrednaekim: I got it03:33
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ivangedii: oh ok i got those03:34
elite101wait03:34
nosrednaekimmaria: whats the error?03:34
marianosrednaekim: there was no left space on device03:34
nosrednaekimmaria: you are out of room on your hard drive..03:34
sanzanricmaria03:34
adenicioelite101: lol kiss a**03:34
mariayes sanzanric03:34
mariasanzanric: tell me03:34
nosrednaekim!ohmy | adenicio03:34
ubotuadenicio: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:34
elite101!language | adenicio03:34
elite101mhm u beat me :(03:35
adeniciolol03:35
sanzanricnosrdnaekim said it before i could03:35
Jucato!offtopic03:35
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:35
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geniiivan: After you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list  file to add those entries, do: sudo apt-get update   than fater try once more to install compiz-fusion03:35
adeniciolol03:35
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genii*fater=after03:35
elite101:P03:35
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anon32say what? what'd he do?03:35
ivangenii: ok thganks ill try that03:36
elite101flooded offtopic channel03:36
adeniciowho?03:36
elite101how did u get back on?03:36
elite101:\03:36
adenicioah ok thats why it disapaere03:36
sanzanricdid kubuntunewbie ever was able to install pidgin03:36
geniiivan: I'll be here for another couple hours if you have difficulty/errors/concerns03:36
adenicioi dont know i i got back on03:36
Jucatoagain please stop the offtopic chatter. take it to #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic03:36
nosrednaekimmaria: you need to clear some space on your hard drive03:36
ivangenii: ok thanks man03:36
adeniciolol03:37
geniisanzanric: Not that I'm aware of yet :)03:37
geniikubuntunewbie: You still there?03:38
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sanzanricnow i'm am03:38
Jucatogenii: that's trademarked!!!03:39
Jucatoer.. no, it's missing the word "long"...03:39
geniiJucato: LOL03:39
Tm_TJucato: and pointy03:39
Jucatooh yeah...03:39
sanzanriclol03:39
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nosrednaekimhobsee was using that in your absence,.,,03:39
sanzanrictoo bad03:39
Jucatothat's her trademark actually. :)03:40
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geniiJucato: Better?03:40
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geniiheh03:40
zakamehehe03:40
nosrednaekim:)03:40
zakameofficer Jucato indeed03:40
adenicioJucato: offtopic03:40
Jucato:P03:40
adenicio!offtopic03:41
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:41
sanzanricseriously03:41
geniisanzanric: Did you ask about pidgin because you need to know how to install it as well?03:41
vershow can i get rid of ktorrent but keep kubuntu-desktop03:41
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nosrednaekimvers: just uninstall ktorrent, it just uninstalls the meta-package "kubuntu-desktop" right?03:42
sanzanricgenii: no, i was the one who suggested that we install from sourece03:42
nosrednaekimdoe sit uninstall a whole buch of other stuff?03:42
adenicioJucato: u look intelegent can u help me in the domain of flash for konqueror?03:43
versi hve no idea...sorry for the trouble but im new at this03:43
geniisanzanric: A better way, http://repository.debuntu.org/ add the repo as it has on the link in contents area, then apt-get update   then install with whatever package manager03:43
Jucatoadenicio: what's the problem?03:43
nosrednaekimJucato: you have been complemented..03:43
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sanzanricgenii: i've realized03:43
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Jucatoer flattered03:43
nosrednaekimvers: when you tel it to remove ktorrent, it tells you that it will remove kubuntu-desktop, right?03:44
versyup03:44
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sanzanricbig hammer or something...03:44
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nosrednaekimvers: anything else it says it will remove?03:44
versno03:44
adenicioJucato: on a website the flash video arent playing anymore with konqueror but it plays youtube videos03:44
genii*studious03:44
nosrednaekimvers: then its fine:)03:44
geniibleh03:44
versnice...03:44
Jucatoadenicio: is that the only website where flash isn't working?03:45
chad_Hi...I was wondering if someone could help me with k9copy.  When I try to launch it I get an error box that states "The application k9copy crash and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)03:45
ivangenii: ok now i installed it how do o make it work??03:46
adenicioJucato: i dont know the other website like it got hacked and close down03:46
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adenicioJucato: on the website the video playing but no image just the sound03:46
Jucatobut youtube works ok?03:47
sanzanricg2g03:47
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geniiivan:  I hate to point you to another URL, but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48131403:47
geniichad_: If you need some dvd9 to dvd5 utility I suggest instead dvd9503:48
chad_genii, I would like to have something that can rip a dvd and shrink it in 1 step which I heard k9copy can do03:49
adenicioJucato: now if i got on this website http://final-mangas-fantasy.oldiblog.com/ theres a little chat down but its not there,but if i got with firefox its there.the little box with the chat03:49
chad_can dvd95 also do that?03:49
geniiyup03:49
Jucatoadenicio: wait let me verify03:49
chad_genii, is that a native linux app?03:49
chad_have you had good success with it?03:50
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geniichad_: Yes, there is a package for it03:50
chad_okay, is it pretty simple to use?03:50
chad_i'm still learning my way around03:50
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chad_looking for something to replace dvd decrypter and dvdshrink on my windoze box03:50
geniichad_: Yes, pretty simple. I use it with k3b to shrink and make copies of my DVD03:50
chad_gen03:51
chad_genii, so do you rip it first with k3b then shrink it?03:51
geniichad_: Yes03:52
chad_genii, i installed k3b but it made no sense to me unfortunately03:52
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adenicioJucato: the website i give u it doesnt have the chat box with konqueror03:53
geniichad_: k3b ... Tools...Rip Video DVD03:53
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geniichad_: Pretty simple :)03:53
adenicioJucato: only with firefox.its like im missing some plugin for flash etc03:53
chad_genii, sorry. I was thinking of the wrong app. I was thinking of acid rip03:53
chad_k3b does looks fairly straight forward03:53
chad_genii, have you ran into problems with any of the newer copy protected dvds?03:54
Jucatoadenicio: the chat box showed up for a few seconds in Konqueror but then disappeared. Unfortunately, the site isn't probably compatible with Konqueror. I don't think it's a Flash problemeither03:54
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geniichad_: Generally I buy second hand ones from the renatl place. No problems yet.03:55
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genii*rental03:55
chad_genii, i usually do the same to try to save a few bucks03:55
vershow do i make dulge my default torrent DLer03:55
adenicioJucato: well anyway the other website is a flash problem because its videos i want to watch online.it work once then poof nothing03:55
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chad_genii, I will try that out and see how it goes. thank you for the advice!03:55
geniichad_: np03:56
chad_take care all...03:56
ivangenii: i alrady opened the compiz config table but there are no effects taking place03:57
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geniiivan: At this point I have not much more help for you :( I don't use compiz-fusion myself. You may get some more useful advice in the channel #ubuntu-effects03:59
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ivangenii: ok thanks man, but why dont you use it>>04:00
geniiivan: Running already some unstable stuff :) gutsy+kde4 for example04:00
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geniiintelikey: Or coffee, as you prefer :)04:01
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ivangenii: how do they looke like??04:01
intelikey!!!! genii what happened to the coffee ???04:01
intelikey:)04:01
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geniiintelikey: cofee=for work. beer= for home and relaxing04:02
geniiivan: kde4 keeps crashing on me. But it looks good so far.04:02
intelikeyactually i don't drink either,  not that it matters  ;/04:02
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ivangenii: do you have screenshots or youtube vids??04:03
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geniiivan: Nah04:04
intelikeyperhaps water04:04
geniiintelikey: I'll remember next time04:04
ivangenii: do they have similar effects as compiz??04:04
geniiivan: I have some transparency effects on my desktop. But nothing like rotating cubes etc04:05
sumguy231From what I can see, KDE4 takes a far more practical approach to desktop compositing. And I like it that way.04:06
sumguy231Compiz is great and all, but if you step back and look at it, a lot of it doesn't seem necessary.04:06
ivangenii: are u a developer??04:07
geniiivan: No. although I am considering some contribution back to ubuntu/kubuntu in that way. For now I just give help here and in #ubuntu04:07
geniisumguy231: I've always liked keeping my desktop minimalistic with perhaps some cool things here or there. I'm not into the entire thing of going nuts on effects etc04:09
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sumguy231Oops. Anyway, I agree.04:10
sumguy231I would actually be happy if I could just get real transparency without bothering with the rest of compiz.04:10
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NickPrestasumguy231, I disagree with your opinion of Compiz being "unnecessary".04:11
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NickPrestaCompiz is actually aids in productivity.04:11
NickPrestaremove is >_>04:11
AhmuckNickPresta: i don't.04:11
drifNickPresta: in which ways?04:12
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sumguy231Nickpresta: Some of it is unnecessary, some isn't. The expose type thing is an example of something which actually has use, as is the zoom feature.04:12
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NickPrestaheh. Sorry Jucato, you're right.04:13
sumguy231Yeah, yeah. Fine.04:13
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drif..and then no one ever actually continues on subject there..04:14
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NickPrestaTo illustrate my point: http://pastebin.ca/67539004:15
intelikeydrif that's probably because the only one that really wanted to talk about * is the one that went there...   and the rest were releaved...   ?04:15
NickPrestaThat's all I will say on it.04:15
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sumguy231But nick, that just illustrates my point as well. :)04:16
xjkxcould anyone make thunderbird read hotmail?04:16
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xjkxi tried with hotwayd+wemail extension but didnt work04:17
sumguy231Not without said extension, as far as I know.04:17
xjkxsumguy231: but you could do with this extension?04:18
xjkxyou could make it work? here it does not04:18
intelikeyxjkx i dumped hotmail when the changed their EULA to include that they could read your main and publish your address...04:18
intelikeymail even04:18
sumguy231Nah, I've never tried it. Maybe it's about time to switch to a webmail service which gives you free POP access... *Cough*GMail*Cough*04:18
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xjkxuhm. i dont use it. i use gmail. its my father's work-email :s04:19
sumguy231Ah, fair enough.04:19
xjkxhe has two hotmails04:19
ivangenii: oh ok, hey no one helps in ubuntu effects04:19
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geniiivan: That sucks.04:21
intelikeygenii phone number "br549"  ?04:22
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flaccidgmail should give imap access for a few dollars a year04:22
ivangenii: i know they dont know crao04:22
dwidmann_flaccid: agreed, I think I'd switch to them if they did04:23
flaccidit would be really good yes :)04:23
geniiivan: Did you try the alt+f2  then put: compiz --replace              ?04:23
geniiintelikey: I dunno that one :) Usually for annoying forms i put the long-distance information telephone number,eg: 555-121204:24
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dwidmann_genii: I live on 123 wonderful lane, and my phone number is 123-4567 :)04:26
geniidwidmann_: It sounds idyllic :)04:26
dwidmann_Oh, it is04:28
drifgenii: so 555 really exists :D I thought just something hollywood had to come up with04:28
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dwidmann_I feel sorry for anyone with a 555 phone number, especially whoever got stuck with 5555.04:28
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ubuntuhello peoples04:28
dwidmann_hiya04:28
NickPresta!hi | ubuntu04:28
ubotuubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:28
ubuntu>.>04:29
ubuntulol04:29
intelikey911-0606   :)04:29
ubuntui just got a quick question so i can not blow up my computer04:29
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dwidmann_Darn, no explosives today? That's no fun04:29
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intelikeyubuntu if you don't want to blow it up,  don't pack it full of C404:30
ubuntushould i make my "user partition" a primary partition or an extended partition04:30
geniidrif: Yeah you can call any long distance operator for whatever area code by: 0-(area code)-555-121204:30
dwidmann_ubuntu: won't make a lick of difference.04:30
nosrednaekimubuntu: "user"? do you mean /home?04:30
dwidmann_As far as linux is concerned, you can throw everything in the extended partition (including boot and root and it won't even care)04:30
intelikeyubuntu linux couldn't care less if it even has a partition04:30
ubuntuyes04:30
ubuntuhome04:30
mneptokubuntu: you can only have 4 primary partitions per physical device04:31
mneptokbear that in mind04:31
ubuntuim just wondering which is better04:31
nosrednaekimif you don;t already have 4 partitions.. primary is better04:31
ubuntuin case i mess up mdadm by touching xorg.conf again04:31
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mneptokintelikey: yes you do04:31
intelikeymneptok wana bet ?04:32
mneptokintelikey: everyone does04:32
intelikeywrong04:32
mneptokintelikey: you have no hard disk?04:32
ubuntuthis time ill have the os in the 10 gb part and all my other stuff in the other part04:32
geniimaybe he just has premonitions instead04:32
intelikeymneptok yes i have hd  but no partitions04:32
anon32Quick question: how can I change the icon for all files of a certain type?04:32
ubuntuso i should just have 2 primarys ok04:32
mneptokintelikey: you do have partitions. they may span the whole drive, but they are there.04:32
intelikeymneptok no i dont04:32
dwidmann_intelikey: that sounds interesting, please do explain04:32
ubuntuanother question, what format, ext2 ext3 or any of the others?04:33
nosrednaekimubuntu: ext304:33
mneptokintelikey: it is impossible to install Linux on raw media04:33
dwidmann_ubuntu: ext3 will work nicely04:33
geniiext3 is a good choice04:33
NickPrestaubuntu, ext3 is reliable and commonly used04:33
intelikeydwidmann_ just mke2fs /dev/hda  or /dev/sda  or what ever the disk is...04:33
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ubuntuwhats the difference, just so i know04:33
mneptokintelikey: ext3 has to format something. that something is a partition.04:33
intelikeymneptok nope04:33
mneptokintelikey: that makes a partition04:34
dwidmann_intelikey: so what does fdisk -l output?04:34
ubuntumaybe, he uses someone elses computer, therefore technically he dont have partitions04:34
intelikeymneptok no it doesn't.  and if you get tired makind a fool of your self you might actually learn something04:34
mneptokintelikey: ahem04:34
intelikeydwidmann_ nothing04:34
nosrednaekimubuntu: ext2 will not keep a journal, so,if you hard power down.. it can mess up your system04:34
ubuntuick04:35
ubuntuwhat is xfs?04:35
ubuntui know what fat and ntfs is04:35
NickPresta!xfs04:35
ubotuxfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS04:35
intelikeydwidmann_ full output of fdisk -l  ran as root  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3928204:35
geniiThe ubotu knows (almost) all04:35
ubuntu!jfs04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
ubuntu....04:35
dwidmann_genii: ubotu would say he knows enough04:36
ubuntuwhat about jfs04:36
nosrednaekimubuntu04:36
nosrednaekimnot sure about that..04:36
ubuntuhmmmm04:36
intelikeycat /proc/partitions | pastebin04:36
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3928304:36
intelikeytty24 [root@~] 04:36
ubuntuso xfs willl probably blow up my comp04:36
dwidmann_jfs was developed by ibm IIRC.04:36
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mneptokintelikey: sudo parted04:36
mneptokintelikey: "print"04:36
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mneptokmhat do you get?04:36
mneptok*what04:36
nosrednaekimubuntu: just stick with ext3, its simpler and safe.04:36
dwidmann_ubuntu: xfs hasn't blown up mine yet?04:36
intelikeymneptok look at the last post04:36
ubuntuok ext3 simply safe04:37
mneptokintelikey: exactlry what is wa\s telling you04:37
mneptokintelikey: you made all of sda a partition04:37
intelikeythere is no partition04:37
mneptokand that's exactly what your paste tells you04:37
intelikeylook at the pastebin04:37
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mneptokintelikey: the fact it list *anything* from /proc/partitions should tell you something04:38
ubuntuhow big should my os partition be?04:38
ubuntu10 gb enough?04:38
mneptokthere is something in /proc/partitions/04:38
mneptokguess what it is?04:38
ubuntua partition?04:38
mneptok*gasp* a PARTITION!04:39
DragnslcrYeah, 10 GB should be fine. Depends on how big the disk is04:39
ubuntulike 74 gb04:39
nosrednaekimubuntu: I'd make it 15 if you have plenty of room04:39
ubuntuok 1504:39
intelikeyok you have earned the ignor button    mneptok not many people are as ignorant as you   only a few have earned that button.04:39
mneptokintelikey: /whois mneptok04:39
Dragnslcrmneptok- my /proc/partitions lists both disks and partitions04:39
mneptokintelikey: before you start labelling me an idiot, you might want to know with whom you are speaking.04:39
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ubuntukurt von finck?04:40
mneptokDragnslcr: yup, because /partitions will consider a drive as a device if it holds a partition table it can understand.04:40
dwidmann_Sorry Kurt, never heard of ya ;)04:40
ubuntuok im going 15 gb04:40
nosrednaekimubuntu: is this having windows on it?04:40
ubuntuwhats a good way to upgrade from dapper to fiesty?04:40
ubuntuoh hell no04:41
ubuntui hate windows04:41
Dragnslcrubuntu- very carefully04:41
dwidmann_nosrednaekim: who in their right mind would poison their system with that?04:41
nosrednaekimubuntu: you have to go from dapper to edgy to fiesty04:41
ubuntui know04:41
mneptokubuntu: you can dist-upgrade from one release to the next04:41
nosrednaekimdwidmann_: hey.. people have wacky ideas04:41
ubuntuso it would be sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?04:41
intelikeynosrednaekim you said it.04:41
flaccidyou can go from dapper to feisty04:41
flaccidi've done it 3 times04:42
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dwidmann_nosrednaekim: those people must be in their left mind and therefore don't count :s04:42
ubuntuid rather go edgy then to fiesty04:42
ubuntui did it once a long time ago04:42
intelikey:)04:42
nosrednaekimintelikey: hey... do you have any serial ports hooked up to something?04:42
ubuntuand i cant remember how i did it04:42
Dragnslcr!dist-upgrade04:42
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:42
intelikeynosrednaekim no  not on this box04:42
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nosrednaekimintelikey: ah ok.. NM04:42
intelikeynosrednaekim why ?04:42
Dragnslcrubuntu- there should be some decent instructions there04:42
mneptokubuntu: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all instances of "dapper" with "edgy" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"04:42
nosrednaekimintelikey: trying to help someone else out with a problem with their serial ports.04:43
mneptokubuntu: then do the same from edgy to feisty04:43
ubuntuoki i get it, something said it was a bad idea to use sudo apt-get but i unno04:43
intelikeynosrednaekim ummm module loaded ?04:43
dwidmann_mneptok: ubuntu: and then you cross your fingers and hope nothing screwed up too bad04:43
Dragnslcrubuntu- you normally have to use sudo for apt-get04:43
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nosrednaekimintelikey: indeed... he's a gentoo user.. he know about that sort of thing ;)04:43
ubuntuno i mean  it  says i should use adept04:43
mneptokdwidmann_: we've done a lot betterl with Edgy>Feisty04:44
intelikeynosrednaekim k  then what is the issue ?04:44
ubuntuor the one for gnome which i dont use  cause i got kde04:44
mneptok-l04:44
ubuntuok i got swap and 2 primarys, i think im ready to go04:44
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nosrednaekimintelikey: lol, we're not sure... it doesn't seem to recognize his serial ports. (although dmesg says they are detected)04:44
intelikeynosrednaekim what kind of device is attached ?04:45
ubuntui should tell it to use the biggest one to mounth /home correct04:45
Dragnslcrubuntu- normally, yeah04:45
nosrednaekimubuntu: yeah04:45
ubuntuok making sure im not gonna totally screw it up04:45
dwidmann_serial ports ... how ancient04:45
Dragnslcrubuntu- 15 GB for /, 2 GB for swap, and the rest for /home should work well04:45
nosrednaekimach... AVR programming requires it.04:46
ubuntui only got 500 mb for swap04:46
ubuntui used to have 2 gb, but it never used it i dont think04:46
DragnslcrHow much RAM do you have?04:46
ubuntu1024 mb04:46
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DragnslcrYeah, I'd go with 2 GB04:46
ubuntuok04:46
DragnslcrDisk space is dirt cheap these days anyway04:46
intelikeynosrednaekim does he have something like a seriol mouse he can use for testing ?04:46
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nosrednaekimI can ask :)04:47
DragnslcrYou can always just pick up an extra 500 GB drive04:47
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nosrednaekimintelikey: oh crap... he left the channel.04:47
nosrednaekimNM :)04:47
ubuntuim using a laptop04:47
intelikeynosrednaekim heh   ok.04:47
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DragnslcrUSB drives are just as cheap04:47
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ubuntui heard horror stories about em04:48
drifhorror+04:48
drif?04:48
ubuntuabout them crashing aot04:48
ubuntualot04:48
DragnslcrOf course, I don't use laptops, so I can just pile on more disks04:48
mneptokubuntu: if you might need to add storage, set up LVM04:48
ubuntulvm?04:48
intelikeymost hd's i've had in one box is 804:48
mneptokLinux Volume Management04:48
mneptokeasy drive spanning04:49
ubuntuand how is that done? now or when i need to add storage?04:49
mneptokthe partitioner in the alternate install lets you set up LVMs04:49
ubuntui think04:49
mneptokyou need to define the LVM during initial installation04:49
mneptokthen add to it later04:49
ubuntuill just get this thing that will let me use ide drives and stick em on my network and use them as extra storage04:50
nosrednaekimubuntu: SLUG :)04:50
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ubuntu.....what ever works lol04:50
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ubuntui dont forsee me needing extra space04:51
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drifnosrednaekim: those are handy :) I have a few04:51
ubuntuand if i do ill just go buy a usb external04:51
nosrednaekimindeed... my brother wants one really bad.04:51
drifnosrednaekim: actually my irssi is running on one as we speak :)04:51
ubuntuok....wish me luck...and hopefully ill have fiesty kubuntu in a few hours04:51
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intelikeywhat ?   SLUG ?04:52
drifintelikey: yup04:52
kubuntunewbieCould someone please teach me how to install a program from the source file?04:52
nosrednaekimdrif: lol... my brother runs irssi on out Linksys router..04:52
ubuntuoh hey, does it matter where the partitions are?04:52
nosrednaekim*our04:52
ubuntulike in the order04:52
nosrednaekimgenii: kubuntunewbie is back......04:52
ubuntui got swap then root then home04:52
kubuntunewbienosrednaekim: is that a bad thing?04:52
intelikeyubuntu only thing that comes into play there is that bios needs to be able to read your kernel04:52
nosrednaekimlol.. no.. he was looking for you though04:52
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: well, first you need to install the dependencies, afterwards it's usually as simple as ./configure && make && sudo make install04:52
ubuntuso?04:52
drifintelikey: doesn't consume too much power when left running 24/7, and virtually no noise at all04:52
nosrednaekimubuntu: it doesn't really matter04:53
ubuntuok04:53
ubuntulol04:53
ubuntuim not really retarted04:53
ubuntujust wanna be cautious04:53
kubuntunewbiedwidmann_: i got the dependencies downloaded already but what do i do from there?04:53
intelikeydrif nice.04:53
nosrednaekimyou sure ;)?04:53
ubuntu>.>04:53
ubuntu<.<04:53
ubuntu>.<04:53
ubuntui think04:53
ubuntulol04:53
nosrednaekim^.^04:53
intelikeyV~V04:53
ubuntuoki bai bai im off to my technological adventure04:53
JucatoO.o04:53
ubuntuwhen i return, ill be dranas04:54
ubuntu>.>04:54
ubuntulol04:54
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: pull up a terminal, cd into the source directory, and run ./configure04:54
nosrednaekimkubuntunewbie: you have the tar.gz?04:54
kubuntunewbieyes i have the tar.gz04:54
dwidmann_You can extract the tar file with "tar xf *tar.gz"04:55
drifintelikey: uptime 487 days ;)04:55
dwidmann_drif: impressive04:55
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drifdwidmann_: was my bad actually, forgot to attach into UPS when I had just moved in04:55
intelikeyyeah is that the totals from several or actually one box  :)04:55
kubuntunewbiethe file i have is pidgin-2.1.1.tar.bz204:56
kubuntunewbiewhats a bz2 file?04:56
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: ah, bzip2 compressed, it's a bit better than gzip but it's slower04:56
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dwidmann_so, "tar xf pidgin-2.1.1.tar.bz2"04:57
intelikeybetter ?    higher compression on some things  slower on all    not sure that == better...04:57
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kubuntunewbiedwidmann_: ahh great, i extracted it04:57
dwidmann_intelikey: very impressive on text compression IIRC04:57
intelikeyyes plain text gets better compression  but takes longer04:58
drifintelikey: never heard of networked uptime :D but yeah, single tiny box04:58
kubuntunewbiewow, i wish i knew as much about this OS as you guys.  Did it take you guys a long time?  Is there a good book i should get?04:58
dwidmann_intelikey: I don't mind the taking longer ... my slowest computer is either this desktop with the fx-60 or my laptop with it's C2D t7200, depending on if the laptop is on battery or not :P04:59
nosrednaekimkubuntunewbie: I didn;t read a book, but yeah.. there are books04:59
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kubuntunewbienosrednaekim: to be honest, i hate books, i never read them in college and i dont want to start now, but i sorta feel bad pestering people in this chat room all the time05:00
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: didn't really take all that long really. I learned the bulk of what I "had to know" in 3 months or less.05:00
nosrednaekimkubuntunewbie: haha... its ok, I don't think we mind05:00
kubuntunewbiedwidmann_: 3 months isnt bad at all, im 5 days into it.  Doing okay so far05:00
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: if you want to avoid irc rooms (which you don't have to, we don't care), google and the man command are your friend.05:01
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intelikeykubuntunewbie we don't read your text either so it doesn't matter   :)05:01
kubuntunewbieintelikey: hahahaha05:01
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nosrednaekimkubuntunewbie: anyway.... so you got it untarred right?05:02
elite101hello05:02
elite101lol still installing pidgin?05:02
kubuntunewbieare the cd commands for konsole anything like the ones for MS Dos?05:02
nosrednaekimkubuntunewbie: I think so.05:02
nosrednaekimexcept "dir" is replaced by "ls"05:03
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dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: the basic linux commands put those of dos to shame :D05:03
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elite101no not rele i love to make NetSend messenager with Bat files (using notepad)05:04
intelikeydwidman_ true dat05:04
kubuntunewbiedwidmann_: im well aware of that, i can already tell you can do 10x from linux commands then what you could do from dos05:04
elite101for dos but to bad i cant make em in kubuntu :(05:04
kubuntunewbienet send, ahhhh the good old days05:04
intelikeyelite101 why can't you ?05:04
intelikeytelnet client ?05:05
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kubuntunewbiecould someone please tell me how to make konqueror stop displaying ...entered the server and ... left this server messages?  i have tried settings and cant find it05:06
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elite101ohh05:07
elite101i cant make .bat files ?05:07
intelikeykubuntunewbie isn't there a check box in that message window that letes you disable feature messages of the kind ?05:07
elite101its a :BASH console not a Dosprompt05:07
elite101so i cant even make any bat files to run in konsole or anything i do in CMD into konsole05:07
intelikeyelite101 sh can exec .bat   just that the syntax is a little different05:08
kubuntunewbieintelikey: what message window? i dont see any check boxes05:08
elite101mhm i could try it? but i dont think if i run the Netsend messenger to my friends pc it will pickup the message?05:08
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intelikeyelite101 anything you can type into a konsole you can put in a plain text file and execute it05:08
elite101since he has windows05:08
intelikeyand linux cares not about .ext05:09
elite101well im on DSL and i might beable to score a p4 900Mhz and change the cpu to a 1.7Ghz-2.4Ghz hopefully tomarrow i can get the PC its a sony vaio05:09
elite101my HDD burnt out and im runnin a computer equal to a cellphone05:09
kubuntunewbieim thinking of picking up a 3 or 400 buck computer from tigerdirect.com to load linux on05:09
elite101about 32k of ram and 33Mhz05:10
kubuntunewbiecomputers got cheap05:10
elite101;) dsl runs slow on it05:10
kubuntunewbieelite101: 33mhz are u serious?05:10
intelikeyMemory Used/Total Percent: 8/242 MB (3%)05:10
intelikeySwap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)05:10
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elite101yeah gigabyte board (not sure model#?) 185$ Nvidia 7900GTX onboard05:10
elite101lolz i have 17.2m/313-10%05:11
elite101sorry thats wrong i mean05:11
elite1011sec05:11
elite10117.8-313-8% swap 0/0-%05:11
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elite101file sys 2.3M/2.9M05:12
elite101i dont know what that means but thats my DSL "specs"05:12
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3928505:12
nosrednaekimok, bye all!05:12
elite101lol i have to underclock my computer or else firefox wont run not even a 22Mhz increase :(05:12
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: settings -> configure  -> chat window if you meant konversation05:12
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elite101intelikey? is that a program u made to display swap/ram usuage?05:14
elite101:S05:14
elite101on ur pastebin05:14
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intelikeykubuntunewbie when the message window pops up telling you that you are leaving a secure host    there (at least used to be) a check box there that you can turn that type messages off05:14
intelikeyelite101 yep05:15
elite101wow cool :)05:15
elite101how hard was it?05:15
intelikeyreal easy05:15
elite101now i have one question i have a psp and it can run any code on it, i was wondering if i can use Python to make a custom firmware on the psp? or do something ? is it possible05:15
intelikeytook me about 5 minutes i guess for the rough draft and i probably spent 10 minutes testing and cleaning it up.05:15
kubuntunewbieintelikey: i dont think we are talking about the same thing05:16
elite101lol nice05:16
intelikeykubuntunewbie oh...  ok what were you talking about ?05:16
elite101i wanted to make a custom firmware usuing pythom for my psp05:16
elite101sory to be in the way05:16
kubuntunewbieintelikey: when people enter or leave this IRC channel it comes up in purple that so and so joined or so and so left this channel, and it kinda spams up my shizznit... i have been looking for a way to make it not anounce that but i cant find it05:17
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: settings -> configure  -> chat window if you meant konversation05:17
intelikeyelite101 you are out of my realm there.   sorry05:17
elite101ahh ic05:17
elite101well can python code things?05:17
elite101like GUI/Firmwares?05:17
kubuntunewbiedwidmann_: im in there but i dont see where it allows me to not see the enter/exit messages05:17
bobbyHave there been any fork projects specifically for laptop installs yet?05:17
intelikeykubuntunewbie oh that's irc   i though you said konqueror     heh  sorry05:17
flaccidelite101: offtopic05:17
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: should be an option for hiding part/join/etc events05:18
elite101how?05:18
kubuntunewbieintelikey: i may have said konqueror, i did pop an xannax about 20 minutes ago and am a bit ditzy05:18
intelikeyelite101 probably need  C  for that.05:18
elite101mhm yeah05:18
Jucatokubuntunewbie: you're using Konversation?05:18
flaccidum try #python ?05:18
kubuntunewbieJucato: sure am05:18
Jucatokubuntunewbie:  Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior group -> Chat Window -> Hide Join/Part/Nick events05:19
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kubuntunewbiedwidmann_: ahhhhhh great that works yeah ty Jucato that worked05:19
kubuntunewbiewell i assume it worked05:19
kubuntunewbiei have not seen join/left thus far05:19
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Jucatothere, someone just left and went back in05:19
kubuntunewbiedidnt see that05:20
kubuntunewbiegreeeat!05:20
Jucatoworks then05:20
kubuntunewbiety05:20
intelikey<kubuntunewbie> could someone please tell me how to make konqueror stop  displaying ...entered the server and ... left this server  messages? <<< kubuntunewbie sorry it's hard for us to answer things like that when that's not what you are really asking   :)05:20
kubuntunewbieintelikey: yup, im kinda mashed right now, 2 beers and 2 xannax, not exactly paying much attention to detail.05:21
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: bah, excuses excuses :P05:21
Jucatoalthough it might be those details that could help us help you :)05:21
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kubuntunewbieyeah, sorry bout that05:22
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kubuntunewbiehow would i go about checking how much hard drive space i have left?05:23
intelikeydf -h05:23
Jucatoin the command line, df -h05:23
kubuntunewbiety05:23
intelikeyor is it mem  ????05:23
intelikey:)05:23
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Jucatofor a fancy way to look, install filelight05:23
kubuntunewbieRAM it up your @$$ ;)05:23
Jucato!info filelight | kubuntunewbie05:23
ubotukubuntunewbie: filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB05:23
Jucatoyou could also right-click on an empty area in Konqueror (presuming you're in file management mode) and select properties. the bottom part of the dialog window will tell you05:24
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Jucatotsk tsk :P05:25
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kubuntunewbieim not going to even attempt to install my USB CD-R drive right now bout just outta curiosity.. how much of a pain is that going to be?05:26
dwidmann_One thing almost as good as the bottle of pee idea - fill it with pickle juice :)05:26
elite101lol\05:26
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drifkubuntunewbie: pretty painless I'd believe05:26
Jucatokubuntunewbie: hm... most likely you just need to plug it in05:26
elite101i drank a whole jar of pickle juice for 70$05:27
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elite101lol i felt sick :(05:27
kubuntunewbieJucato: i cant use it from across the room?05:27
dwidmann_elite101: should gag most people, especially if people try to gulp it.05:27
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elite101lol i drank it down like it was water05:27
dwidmann_elite101: now you know not to do it in one sitting.05:27
elite101it ran down but man the after taste is nasty05:27
dwidmann_elite101: probably depends on the brand05:27
elite101id perfure drinking battery acid :\05:28
elite101it was bicks pickles05:28
kubuntunewbieelite101: you got a great deal, i knew someone who drank it down for free05:28
intelikeyelite101 jsut for the record that could actually "kill" a person.   too much acid05:28
elite101or i mean Bics05:28
elite101yeah i know and ucan die form pickles juice05:28
elite101if u cut yourself your blood thins from it so it pours faster05:28
intelikeyenough of it  you can05:28
dwidmann_You can die from pickle juice? D$#! I'm at risk.05:28
elite101lol05:28
elite101no not really depends on the person05:29
elite101if u cut yourself u can bleed alot since it makes the blood thinner05:29
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intelikeyhang em'05:29
dwidmann_neato, like aspirin, without the risks to the stomach, heck yes.05:29
intelikeyhang em' all.05:30
elite101!offtopic | elite10105:30
JucatoO.o05:30
elite101lol05:30
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kubuntunewbiei am really upset, like 3 days ago torrentspy.com stopped allowing US users05:31
elite101:) haha05:31
elite101canada Greatest country in the world05:31
kubuntunewbieyou guys are next frenchie!05:31
elite101nope05:31
elite101:)05:31
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elite101we are allowed to back up our DVD's :) and bring camcorders to theatres05:31
elite101:) wuu anyone wanna see superbad? i gott it on tape05:32
kubuntunewbieand live in a cold climate all year round.05:32
elite101:P05:32
dwidmann_camcorded shows tend to be suck quality.05:32
parameswaranhello05:32
elite101u think u live in cold climate?05:32
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kubuntunewbieyes05:32
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elite101lmao ur cold climate is like 1day of winter ours is like 6months of winter05:32
Hiddenrider__hi05:32
elite101hello05:32
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kubuntunewbienooo, i think you live in a cold climate05:33
kubuntunewbienot me05:33
elite101:)05:33
intelikeyHiddenrider__ find a name you can stay with  ?05:33
elite1011337-canadian10105:33
kubuntunewbiebut you guys have great pot05:33
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dwidmann_Canada shouldn't be all that far off of Wisconsin weatherwise, if you're in the southpart, I would think.05:33
elite101sorry05:33
intelikeyHiddenrider__ what can we do for you ?05:33
kubuntunewbieJucato: off topic? how so?!?!?! ;)05:33
drifJucato: gesundheit05:33
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Hiddenrider__just looking05:33
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dwidmann_/j #kubuntu-offtopic05:34
JucatoI'm there :P05:34
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elite-canuck:)05:34
Jucatoelite-canuck: please stop changing nicks every microsecond? :P05:34
drifelite-canuck: what's the usual temp there?05:34
intelikeyHiddenrider__ this is supposed to be the official kubuntu help channel    should you ever need help.    even though it's hard to tell some times05:34
elite-canuckumm i dont know?05:34
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elite-canuckin summer or winter?05:34
elite-canuckwe get sometimes -3905:35
drifelite-canuck: you talked about cold.. so guess05:35
elite-canuck!offtopic | drif05:35
ubotudrif: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:35
elite-canuck:P05:35
Jucatoelite-canuck: why don't you joine #kubuntu-offtopic. drif is there as well05:35
dwidmann_elite-canuck: sucks to be you guys05:35
elite-canuckhe asked me?05:35
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Jucatoelite-canuck: no. but since you're talking offtopic w/ him :)05:35
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drifelite-canuck: back-stabbish action.. first lure into conversation and then suddenly hit with the offtopic card there :D05:36
elite-canuck:P u asked me after i stopped05:36
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intelikeydrif the way of the assian for $200   ?05:36
kubuntunewbieabout how long does it take to "make" a program? cause this has seriously been going on for 15 minutes or more05:36
droachi have a question but i dont really know how to ask it05:37
elite-canucki think im the only person with the name"elite" so i see people ask me questions and after i dont feel so elite :(05:37
drifelite-canuck: I was actually answering to your question there ;)05:37
BluesKajdwidman, wisconsin directly west of me and where I live is considered northern ontario , but of course geography isn't emphasized much in american schools so we don't expect americans to know much about other countries05:37
elite-canuckwell this IRC i cant scroll up :(05:37
intelikeydroach those are some times hard to answer.05:37
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: depends how slow your computer is05:37
dwidmann_I'd say pidgin would probably take about a half hour05:38
kubuntunewbiedwidmann_: lol, 450 Mhz P3 with 256 mb of ram05:38
droachi have something plugged into a usb port and i want to know which device it is connected to in /dev05:38
intelikeyelite-canuck the page=up botton no workem' ?05:38
dwidmann_kubuntunewbie: make that well over an hour, or three05:38
elite-canucklol remember the person who won the beauty pagent (what a real shinner) she answerd a question about people in USA who dont know where the country is in a map :P (durhhhURhhh)05:38
intelikeydroach          lsusb05:38
elite-canuckthanks05:38
elite-canuckit works05:38
kubuntunewbiedwidmann_: welp looks like im done with asking technical questions for the night...05:39
droachi knew it was ls something but i was using lspci -vv05:39
elite-canucklol you have some really smart people in USA :)05:39
intelikeydroach   lshw   might also give some info  but probably now what you asked.05:39
elite-canuckwhen people from the USA cross border to Canada it says "whatever you do dont opperate heavy machinery"05:39
kubuntunewbieAnybody want to hire a Recent Graduate with a strong IT background for a logistical or sales position?05:39
kubuntunewbiesounds good05:40
droachi want to know where it is in the /dev directory05:40
CPrgmSwR2Wow is it ever nice to be able to install an operating system while using it05:40
intelikeydroach depends on what it is05:41
BluesKajelite-canuck , don't get silly05:41
droachusb cable modem05:41
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dxdtI'm having a lot of problems formatting a USB flash drive to fat32, could anyone help?05:41
intelikeydroach and that addressing will not be permanant.    /dev/tty'something' maybe       can you not use  kppp  to auto detect it ?05:42
intelikeyi don't have cable.   anyone know the easy way to detect the modem  ???05:43
intelikeyJucato  ?05:43
Jucatono idea :(05:43
CPrgmSwR2what about kppp05:43
CPrgmSwR2hey jucato05:44
intelikeyi sujested that but don't know for sure if it will detect cable modems05:44
Jucatohi CPrgmSwR2!05:44
intelikeyCPrgmSwR2 have you used it for that ?05:44
CPrgmSwR2actually that was bad advice, as thats for using a modem once its detected05:45
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intelikeyit has an auto detect too05:45
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intelikeyi have used it.  but not for cable05:45
CPrgmSwR2I wish I could remember the command for listing the hardware stuff05:45
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intelikeylsusb   lshw   lspci   ????05:46
intelikeysomething else?05:46
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intelikeyls /proc/bus/usb/05:47
CPrgmSwR2lspci05:48
intelikeyfor a usb device ?05:48
CPrgmSwR2for your modem05:48
intelikeyfor a usb device ?05:48
intelikey:)   and it's not my modem05:48
intelikeyi really should get something usb so i can learn a little about the usb addressing05:50
intelikeyi should also fix my network.    while it's quiet in here05:51
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intelikeyi really really need a good howto that doesn't read like rute-book   on how to make a router out of a pinguin06:01
Jucatointelikey... needing howto's??? that's a first... :P06:01
flaccidenglish?06:02
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flaccidnatd?06:02
intelikeyJucato but you are the network guru and you wont help me...  :(06:02
intelikeyflaccid yeah eng06:02
Jucatoheh06:02
intelikey:)06:03
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flaccidwhat do you want to do make an ubuntu router?06:03
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BluesKajask , well try to answer06:04
intelikeywell !ubuntu   but yeah06:04
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flaccid!router06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
flaccid!gateway06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
flaccidhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972 <--- maybe that06:04
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intelikeyBluesKaj same thing i've been working on for three days.     i'll text diagram the hardware for you      inet--modem-box1-192.168.0.1--switch1--192.168.0.2-box7-192.168.0.2--switch2--192.168.0.3-box8     everything up to switch2 works like a charm  but nothing on that switch can see past box706:07
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aliriook06:08
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intelikeyremember i'm still network illiterate  so if i say or ask something stupid there, go ahead an laugh but don't get mad.06:10
intelikeyi set up dnsmasq on box1 and that let me use it as a gateway from everything on switch1   but doing the same on box7 didn't work for things on switch2   and i don't understand why06:12
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intelikeyboxes 1-7 all have inet acces through box1    so i thought boxes 8->> would be able to access box1 throught box7  same way.... but no.    anyone ever done this before ?06:13
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drifintelikey: is that box7 bridged?06:14
eljefedoes anyone know of a way to add the names in a spreadsheet to an image, one by one, and print it?  basically i want to make seating tags for the people on a list, and each tag has to have their name and a standard image.06:14
jcs7778 Hey guys, how do you use the themes in aparok, when i apply them nothing happens to amarok.06:15
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eljefejcs7778: it should change the colours??06:15
eljefeit works for me06:15
drifeljefe: should people #openoffice or similar now better..06:16
eljefeor, is there a way to add an image to a speadsheet cell?  kspread and oo.o_spread both don't allow for an image...06:16
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drifknow06:16
intelikeydrif i tried bridging the cards but that just hosed it's connetivity to 192.168.0.1 as well as not making it avalable to switch2    so NO it's not.06:16
eljefedrif: do you have a suggestion?  there isn't a wizard for it, that i see06:16
eljefeoh ask in #openoffice.org ok will do!06:17
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drifintelikey: just wondering that both had same ip06:17
intelikeydrif odd thing is i can ping both addresses on box7 from box8  just cant ping through it.06:17
intelikeydid i typo same ip ????06:18
drif192.168.0.2 on both sides of box706:18
intelikeyoh yes that's a typo06:18
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intelikey192.168.0.2-box7-192.168.0.2006:18
drifintelikey: lots of boxes there - at home?06:19
File13im dual booting and the last part of space is coming up as unusable what do i have to do in the partition editor to get the space usable, something with the logical partition06:19
drifintelikey: or is that just concept you're working on06:19
intelikeynot that many.  but i'd like to learn this anyway...  only about a dozen right now06:19
intelikeythe number varies greatly.06:20
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intelikeyi get down to two or three and up to 200 ....06:20
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drifintelikey: I doubt at home..06:21
kubuntunewbieintelikey: hey, how do i download the various sweet codec packs & Divix packs used to view videos?06:23
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intelikey!codecs | kubuntunewbie06:24
ubotukubuntunewbie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:24
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intelikey!ethereal06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ethereal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
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intelikey!info ethereal06:26
ubotuethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 21 kB, installed size 60 kB06:26
intelikey!info ethereal dapper06:26
ubotuethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB06:26
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drewcipher!iso06:32
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:32
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willluongoHello, I am having problems running the live cd on my new system. I have tried safe graphics mode, but that just gets to black screen with a flashing underscore cursor06:34
willluongoI can put characters in but nothing happens06:35
intelikeywillluongo hmmm 'vesa' driver no workem' ?06:37
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intelikeywillluongo at that cursor try   alt+f2  alt+f1   see if you get a console    you could try to   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow   there, if you know much about your hardware and linux you can get the gui up and running that way.06:39
intelikeyboot option  noacpi  acpi=off   or some such might help too06:40
willluongoI will try those06:41
willluongoI think it is my video card also06:41
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willluongoBBS06:42
intelikeyyeah i think it is too...  ;/06:45
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maderaHello everybody. I have a rather simple question... I installed kubuntu for the KDE libs but now it changed my Ubuntu orange splash screen (when the computer boots). I happen to preffer the orange one to the new Kubuntu blue one. How do I get my orange one back?06:51
emonkey!grub06:54
mneptokmadera: the splash screen is part of the Kubuntu packages. if you replace it, it will get overwritten with updates06:54
CPrgmSwR2What is the command for updating the system with the must current packages06:54
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:54
drifmadera: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u06:54
drifmadera: and choose the one you want from given options06:55
mneptokmadera: and if that changes, you'll need to run the command again.06:55
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mneptok(like after an initramfs rebuild)06:56
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makuseruare there any programs in kubuntu to take jpg, png, (any other images) and make animated gif's out of them?07:03
dwidmann_makuseru: the interface for it won't be quite so elegant, but you could use the gimp07:04
makuserugimp does animations?07:04
Jucatoyep07:04
makuseruhow?07:04
JucatoGIMP Animation Plugin07:05
Jucatohttp://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Using_GAP/07:05
makuseruis there any program besides gimp?07:06
Jucatofor KDE? none that I know of... might want to search in http://kde-apps.org07:08
Jucato(Krita definitely doesn't do animated GIF's)07:08
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intelikeywhat's the differanve in   192.168.0.0/16  and   192.168.0.0/24   ?07:17
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arunhey people07:21
Jucatohmm07:21
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JCDGhey07:22
JCDGwhas't up?07:22
NickPresta!hi07:22
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:22
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Ryuhomeh07:25
JCDGhello, somebody needs something?07:25
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willluongoWell, I got it installed using the text install process07:39
willluongoI am 95% sure it is the video card now07:39
willluongoUsing Vesa it makes the noise like it loaded KDE, but then just has a blank screen I can't get any response from.07:39
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willluongoUsing the nv driver it says that screens are not setup in a way that is usable (or something to that effect)07:40
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willluongoIs there any way to update the video drivers from the command prompt? I apt-got udate and upgrade already07:45
Agent_bobis the hardware nvidia07:45
Agent_bob!nv07:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:46
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willluongoYeah, nVidia 8500 GT07:46
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sparrlinux games that are fun to play with a stylus...  go!07:48
flaccidsudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx07:49
willluongoOk, I am off to try that. Be back shortly07:49
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Daisuke_Laptophardy heron :D07:56
Daisuke_Laptopsorry, just got home and saw that07:56
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sparri wondered what they were going to do about H08:03
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sparri think the early release namers werent planning very far ahead08:03
Jucato??08:03
sparrwell, now we are on the alphabetical progression08:05
sparrbut thats going to get confusing in hindsight08:05
sparrwhen a user a few years from now tries to figure out if heron or hedgehog came after gutsy08:05
boubbinhow to upgrade to the latest kde release ?08:05
sparrboubbin: wait for gutsy08:05
Jucatoer?08:05
Jucatothe latest KDE is 3.5.708:06
Jucatoit's available on Feisty now08:06
boubbincant have the new version for feisty, i run 3.5.6 now08:06
Jucatoye syou can08:06
boubbinhow :)08:06
Jucatoer.. yes you*08:06
boubbinunable to find wiki threads about upgrading08:06
Jucatohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php08:06
Jucatokde, amarok, and koffice upgrades are announced on http://kubuntu.org08:07
sparroh, didnt realize08:07
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Jucatosparr: considering hoary is dead (reached end of life some time ago), it wouldn't really be a source of confusion08:07
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sparrwell, ok, since hardy is LTS that will ease the confusion08:08
sparrbut if it wasnt, then it would EOL eventually too08:08
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Jucatoand we also have the "real" names, *buntu 8.0408:08
sparrsure, but you dont see those when browsing repositories manually08:08
sparrdigging for old packages08:08
Jucatotrue08:08
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sparrand now...  i go afk for 6 days08:09
sparrDragon*Con or bust!08:09
Jucatobut hoary is no longer on the archives anyway08:09
Jucatounless some 3rd party outside of ubuntu has some repo/packages.08:09
Jucatoanyway..08:09
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krautmoin08:15
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dranasgreetings08:21
dranasanyone on?08:21
dranas!xfs08:21
ubotuxfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS08:21
dranashello?08:23
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dranashello08:23
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neusonce!flash08:24
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash08:24
dranasanyone know the commands to upgrade from dapper to edgy?08:24
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NickPresta!upgrade | dranas08:29
ubotudranas: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)08:29
dranasi found it already thanks08:29
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neusonce grrrr iv dose anybody know the  cmd  for activating flash on kubuntun 7.4?08:31
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NickPresta!flash08:35
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash08:35
NickPresta`sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree` after enabling multiverse08:35
Jucatomultiverse should be enabled by default already08:36
hangthedjif your using konq, you should be able to go to a flash site, and it will ask if you want to install it.08:36
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Agent_bobi've managed to un-fix almost everything having anything to do with networking...09:07
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hangthedjjust installed the new tribe on my laptop, and i have to say, i'm incredibly impressed.  with fiesty it took a month to get everything working.  everything works out of the box with gutsy.09:09
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NickPrestaIs there a way to customize "Fill in Tags with MusicBrainz" in Amarok?09:12
hangthedji think so, but i don't know off hand.09:13
hangthedjyou could ask in #amarok09:13
NickPrestahangthedj, yep. I was going there next. I was just curious if anyone knew here off-hand.09:14
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Kein;/09:16
NickPresta!hi | Kein09:16
ubotuKein: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:16
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KeinI think I need help learning how to compile...09:18
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Jucato!compile09:19
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:19
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Agent_bobi converted my subnet to * and now i'm almost totally non-network'd it seems that every thing i do makes it wores.09:29
Agent_bobse09:29
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Agent_boband i can't undo any of it...    i put it back like it was but it doesn't work that way now09:30
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hangthedjAgent_bob: whats your subnet?09:30
hangthedjput it as that.09:30
Agent_bob*09:30
Agent_bobusing 0 and 109:31
Agent_bobatm09:31
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Agent_bobmaybe i'll test with 1 and 2    can 0 be messing with things ?09:31
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rocketsAnybody here use SoundKonverter?09:32
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rocketsand if so do you know how to make it do a V0 rip09:32
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KeinHuh.09:32
KeinWeird...09:32
Agent_bobor could one have  192.168.0.0  for one box ?09:33
KeinI can't get my headphones to work.09:33
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KeinAlso, I need an XML parser for perl, but have no clue where I would look in synaptic/adept for it.09:33
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Agent_bobcan part of a network be 255.255.0.0 and part be 255.255.255.0 ?09:36
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lnx_how i can make kaffeine to play avi \ mpg \wmv ?09:41
hangthedj!wmv09:42
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intelikeyi got partial fix.09:48
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lnx_hangthedj , i have all the free (thora an vorbis and its still doesnt work ) ?09:50
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Jucatolnx_: avi/mpg/wmv are non-free formats. you need the non-free codecs for those09:50
Jucatolnx_: for avi/mpg, you just need to install libxine-extracodecs09:51
hangthedjdoes libxine-extracodecs take care of wmv?  i'm not sure09:51
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lnx_i know  , but there is away that kaffine will suggest me automatic when i try to play unsupported video ( like totem ) ?09:52
Jucatono, that 's why I said avi/mpg only :)09:52
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Hori_Laptopah09:52
Jucatolnx_: there is something like that in Amarok, but  it's a bit buggy. its quite easy. Just go to Add/Remove Programs and search for MP3, or go to Adept Manager and search for libxine-extracodecs09:53
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hangthedji think if you go to the mplayerhq site, you can get support for wmv09:53
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lnx_Jucat , i have found and i can play ... but how i can play real media ?09:54
Jucato!wmv09:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:54
Hori_LaptopDon't suppose anyone is keen on helping me with getting MP3 support for Amarok, (me being almost completely new to Linux (windows user D:) and who hates code) I'm using 6.06 (Dapper Drake I think is the name)09:54
Hori_Laptop?09:54
Jucatolnx_: you need w32codecs09:54
JucatoHori_Laptop: install libxine-extracodecs09:55
Jucatothat's all you need for mp309:55
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Hori_LaptopJucato: I think I need to edit my source list,09:55
JucatoHori_Laptop: ah yes, Dapper... you need to enable multiverse09:55
Jucato!multiverse09:55
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:55
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Hori_LaptopWhich I tried, however, it wouldn't let me save it due to evilness09:55
Jucatoyou need to be admin/root to do that. just follow the instructions given in that link09:56
Hori_LaptopDanke09:56
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Jucatolnx_: for WMV (and mostly Real) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs09:57
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lnx_ko i have intsall alot of thing and still , someone can see this video ? http://yes.walla.co.il/?w=1/7042/1151512 , i use firefox and i have flash09:59
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intelikeywell by watching the lights blink i can see what's happening when i ping .1.3(eth1 box2) from .1.2(eth1 box3)  box2 replys on eth0  so the ping reply never gets back to box309:59
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Jucatolnx_: have you installed the w32codecs? it covers wmv and real (it should)10:00
Jucatoyou can't find that in the repositories so you should follow the instructions given in the link I gave10:00
hangthedjlnx_: it works for me, although, i don't know what anything means. ;)10:02
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lnx_hangthedj , you can see it "perfect" (with lags or things like this ) ?10:04
lnx_i have install all the codecs that you gave and still i have grey screen instead of the video ?10:05
Jucatolnx_: near the bottom of the grey box (where the video should be) can you see the controls,like play, stop pause, etc10:06
hangthedjits actually taking along time trying to look up dev.cgroup.co.il, i imagine for the video.10:07
hangthedjon my computer at least.10:07
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lnx_Jucato , i dont see even this controls10:10
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gronbaekHi people. I have problem with ALSA, and hope you could help.10:58
gronbaekWhen starting the Last.FM player, it complains that ALSA is busy or not present, and when setting Amarok to use ALSA there is no sound.10:58
gronbaekAdditionally there is no sound on Flash when viewing web sites, like Youtube etc.10:59
gronbaekBut alsaplayer can play MP3 alright... any suggestions?10:59
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hangthedji had a problem with sound in flash, and i installed the newest version of lib-alsa.10:59
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hangthedjhttp://www.alsa-project.org11:00
Jucato!sound11:01
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:01
gronbaekJucato: it's checked. And Amarok can play music as log as it's set to "auto-detect", but no sound when manually set to ALSA. Kaffeine also has sound.11:03
gronbaekSo it seems it's alsa that's the problem.11:03
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hangthedjhttp://www.alsa-project.org11:05
gronbaekYeah, im trying the alsa-lib now.11:05
hangthedjgronbaek: what dist are you running?11:05
gronbaekWhy isn't that in the repositories? Is it included in some other form? 7.1011:06
gronbaekSo it's sort of my own fault, I know :-)11:06
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hangthedjgronbaek: libsound211:06
hangthedjin the reps11:06
lnx_how i can CLEAR the alt+f2 menu ?11:06
gruluse backspace11:07
lnx_grul , i mean to clear all the command that i have ever typed11:07
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gronbaekhm... I don't have a libsound211:07
freeman???11:08
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freeman11:08
hangthedjsorry libasound211:09
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freeman11:09
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gronbaekAh, that's installed.11:09
freeman ubuntu11:10
freemanapy-get libasound211:10
freemanapt-get install libasound211:11
freeman11:11
gronbaekYeah, that's done. I just tried a --reinstall, but that didn't help.11:11
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freeman  goole11:12
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lnx_grul , i mean to clear all the command that i have ever typed11:17
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lnx_how i can CLEAR the alt+f2 menu ?11:17
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hangthedjlnx_ : not sure, sorry11:19
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praecoxhello, anyone here familiar with KMail?11:20
Jucatolnx_: Alt+F2, right-click11:20
Jucatonot so familiar but I do use it11:20
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praecoxJucato, I've got problem with KMail after my last daily upgrade. it started saying: Unable to complete LIST operation. Invalid Response From Server.11:21
praecoxafter that it just crashes, here's backtrace: http://pastebin.ca/67558111:21
Jucatooh...11:21
lnx_Jucato yes its work11:21
praecoxit simply never happened before.11:21
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Jucatooh... sorry no idea then :(11:22
Jucatomight want to try out #kontact but the backtrace isn't usable at all11:23
Jucatopraecox: you might want to install kdepim-dbg to get a more usable backtrace11:24
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hangthedjpraecox: what dist are you using, because recently there have been lots of problems with kontact.11:26
praecoxhangthedj, it's Kubuntu Gutsy.11:28
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hangthedjpraecox: have you tried updating kontact?11:28
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lnx_what is the best kde   ?11:28
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lnx_what is the best kde irc client ?11:29
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praecoxhangthedj, I believe it's up to date.11:29
praecoxhangthedj, as I said before, I just finished daily upgrade this morning.11:29
hangthedjpraecox: there are lots of problems with kontact in gutsy, you should go report your bug to launchpad.net11:30
Carnage\lnx_: I use Konversation though it's not perfect...11:30
hangthedjthere was a problem with kontact and basket, and i reported svn worked, and they updated the package, and now it works.11:31
hangthedjlaunchpad.net is very helpful11:31
Jucatolnx_: graphical IRC clients, I'd say Konversation11:31
praecoxhangthedj, I see. well, will try then.11:31
lnx_Carnage/ i also and it have all i want11:31
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hangthedji've tried many irc clients, and BitchX is always my favorite.11:31
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praecoxI do prefer irssi to BitchX.11:32
hangthedjsee, i'm a simpleton, i love BitchX11:33
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dianeWhat is the best way to install the nvidia drivers for the 8600GT? It is not in the list of supported cards for the ubuntu nvidia binary driver. Should I just install from nvidia's site?11:35
Jucatodiane: which driver did you check? there are 3 drivers for nvidia11:35
dianeIt is not listed here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html11:35
dianeJucato: it is not in the latest one11:35
Jucatonvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new11:36
dianeJucato: the glx-new11:36
Jucatohm..11:36
JucatoGeForce 6800 GT  0x004511:36
Jucatoit's the 5th from the top11:36
hangthedj!nvidia11:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:36
dianeJucato: 8600GT11:36
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lnx_what is the command to run the default kde email client ?11:36
Jucatooh sorry11:36
hangthedjkmail11:36
Ace2016Hi all11:37
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Jucatolnx_: kmail which is in kontact when you run it11:37
hangthedj!hi | Ace201611:38
ubotuAce2016: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:38
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Ace2016anyone know how to shrink the display on an lcd, there is a line about 20px from the right that i need to get rid of so i want to shrink the display to fix say 800x600 in the middle of my 1024x768 display so my desktop is in the middle 800x600, then an empty black area and11:38
Jucatodiane: hm... might have to either manually install the driver or wait for Gutsy...11:38
dianeJucato: It is in this version: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/appendix-a.html11:38
enryhi11:38
dianeDo you know if the nv driver supports widescreen resolutions11:39
dianeGeForce 8600 GT  0x040211:40
Ace2016like this:http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktoptm2.jpg11:40
Ace2016diane: why not just install the nvidia driver?11:40
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Ace2016and you can use custom resolutions in your xorg.conf, it'll just do what you tell it to do11:40
dianeAce2016: yes I am going to do that. I just wanted to see if there was an alternative.11:41
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dianeAce2016: since the nvidia driver provided by ubuntu does not support my card...11:41
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intelikeywell i'm on the second lan now.     finally got it going.11:42
intelikeyi can't believe that anyone would waste this much time on something like this....   pitiful11:43
Ace2016oh well envy can install a driver that'll work perfectly with it, i should know, i'm using it11:43
Ace2016intelikey: second lan?11:44
Ace2016one not enough?11:44
intelikeyAce2016 yeah11:45
intelikeyAce2016 size matters11:45
lnx_i can somehow improove the preformance with disabling of cisual effect in kde ?11:46
intelikeyAce2016 lan on flour 1 with switch and boxes  lan on flour 2 with switch and boxes lan per flour...11:47
intelikeyinx_ kcontrol   yes11:47
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lnx_intelikey , i know but what to change there ?11:48
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hangthedjintelikey: flour 2 and 1 of your house?11:49
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Jucatossshhhh don't mind him :)11:50
intelikeyhangthedj well,    umm  sort of.11:50
Jucato(his house is actually made of ginger bread)11:50
intelikeylol11:50
hangthedjneat11:50
Jucatoever heard of hansel & gretel? :)11:50
intelikeyJucato you think i live in big house ?11:50
hangthedjanyway me and Jucato, held down the fort while you were gone :p11:51
intelikeyhangthedj thank you.11:51
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hangthedjman, i hate when i put commas where they don't belong.11:53
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Kanniballhi!11:55
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hangthedj!hi | Kanniball11:56
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Kanniballis it possible to install kubuntu from the desktop cd, without a live session (start only the installer, not a kde session)?11:58
Jucatonope11:58
hangthedjKanniball : you could grab the kubuntu alternate install cd11:58
hangthedjall ncurses.11:59
SlimeyPeteKanniball: nope. But you can use the alternate CD for that.11:59
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Kanniballand the alternate only has a ncurses installer?11:59
Jucatoyep11:59
Jucatotext based + lots more options12:00
Kanniballok....12:00
Jucatodesktop cd = live cd + basic install12:00
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erthow do i set up tor12:00
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Jucato!tor12:00
Kanniballbut I think it should be an option to have graphical installer without a Desktop Session12:00
Jucatodang12:00
Jucato!tor12:00
Jucatodang bot's down12:01
hangthedjyeah12:01
hangthedj@t12:01
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
Kanniballbecause on computers with 256MB of ram, it could be damn slow12:01
Kanniballert: I don't know the specifics for Kubuntu12:02
JucatoKanniball: that's what the alternate installers are for12:02
hangthedj@T12:02
Kanniballbut the basics behind it, it setting a proxy, and then make the applications use that proxy12:02
Jucatoif you had only 256MB of RAM, a live cd of Kubuntu would practically be useless anyway12:02
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praecoxhangthedj, well, seems like it's already reported bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/13578712:04
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KanniballJucato: ok, i will download the alternate version... but since this is was intended to give to someone else to install alone, I need to go and install it myself12:04
hangthedjpraecox: kontact is making me crazy right now too.12:04
Kanniballbecause the process it's scary for computer begginners12:05
hangthedjdell sells computers now with freedos, thats cool.12:06
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Kanniballhangthedj: and with linux too... at least in US12:06
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hangthedjwell i knew about the ubuntu, but i didn't know about the freedos.12:06
Jennamorning all, I've just installed kubuntu, no I wan to apt-get gnome desktop onto it as well. is there a 1 package which completly install gnome desktop or do I have to manually choose 1 by 112:07
hangthedjJenna: ubuntu-desktop12:07
hangthedji think12:07
JucatoJenna: ubuntu-desktop to install all the default ubuntu stuff12:07
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JucatoJenna: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome12:07
hangthedjJenna, but why are you asking how to install gnome, in a kde channel?12:07
Jennahmm. I did that . but my side bars (minimize/ maximize) are missing12:07
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hangthedjJenna: you have to logout and choose Gnome, and log back in.12:08
HOLLOWMA_Ni want to setup my internet connection in Kubuntu. in windows i dail using pppoe with my user password but its not dailup. Its braoadband. how to setup it up in ubuntu12:08
Jennahangthedj, just wanted show off to people that kubuntu is so good that it can you can install gnome desktop onto it as well12:08
hangthedji am going to punch kontact in the face.12:09
JucatoHOLLOWMA_N: in the terminal (K Menu -> System -> Konsole) type in: sudo pppoeconf12:09
JucatoHOLLOWMA_N: just follow the instructions.12:09
HOLLOWMA_Ndoes'nt work :(12:09
owli guess i found a bug12:09
JucatoHOLLOWMA_N: what doesn't work?12:10
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praecoxhangthedj, right, do it for me, too.12:10
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HOLLOWMA_NJucato that does'nt work :(12:10
JucatoHOLLOWMA_N: how doesn't it work?12:11
HOLLOWMA_Nit says no pppoe dectected in etho or something12:11
hangthedjpraecox: everytime i reload kontact, i get like 12 new messages in my inbox from, Unknown, date Unknown12:11
hangthedjits making me crazy.12:11
hangthedji'm gonna punch it.12:11
praecoxhangthedj, exactly. plus appearance as described in that bug report.12:11
praecoxhangthedj, punch it hard!12:11
HOLLOWMA_NJucato if u have n e idea about windows i can tell u what i do in windows.. so that u can understand the problem12:11
hangthedjHOLLOWMA_N : explain it in "windows terms"12:12
JucatoHOLLOWMA_N: hm... haven't used Windows in a long time. But that's just how I configure my internet connection. I was also using PPPoE ADSL12:12
Jucatoor rather still am, but now with a router so I use DHCP12:12
Jennathanx guys12:12
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Jennabut one more thing. has anyone been experiencing screen freezes (blank/black) when u logout of ur kubuntu desktop ? (Im on amd64 lappy) ?12:13
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hangthedjJenna: thats a problem thats being addressed i think.  what distro are you using?12:14
HOLLOWMA_Nhangthedj : what i do is if u go to network connection > creat a new connection > connect to internet > manual setup > connect using broadband connection that required user pass > user n pass thats it then i just lunch it and its connected to net12:14
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Jennahangthedj, kubuntu. 7.04 (patched)12:15
hangthedjpatched?12:15
Jennahangthedj, so thats an issue with all of u guys ? *screen freeze"12:16
Jennahangthedj, updated12:16
HOLLOWMA_Nhangthedj :(12:16
hangthedjHOLLOWMA_N : so your on dialup?12:16
HOLLOWMA_NNO NO12:17
HOLLOWMA_Nbroadband12:17
JucatoPPPoE ADSL. needs username and password12:17
HOLLOWMA_Nyes12:17
hangthedjJenna : on laptops, for some reason, every once in a while, shutting down doesn't shut down.12:17
hangthedjah12:17
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HOLLOWMA_Nuser pass required12:17
HOLLOWMA_Nbut not using phn line12:17
HOLLOWMA_Nn e suggestion :(12:18
hangthedjHOLLOWMA_N: i'm sorry its been a long time for me. you might try talking to ubotu12:18
hangthedj!pppoe12:18
hangthedj!stupidubotu12:19
freemanho12:19
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hangthedj!botabuse12:20
HOLLOWMA_Nubotu ? :S12:20
HOLLOWMA_N??12:20
hangthedj!botabuse >> hangthedj12:21
HOLLOWMA_N!botabuse12:21
HOLLOWMA_N:P12:21
Jucatook you can stop that now :)12:21
hangthedj:(12:21
JucatoHOLLOWMA_N: I'm not really sure why pppoeconf isn't working12:21
HOLLOWMA_N:'(12:21
HOLLOWMA_N:((12:21
Jucatois your dsl modem connected and turned on when you run the command?12:21
HOLLOWMA_Ni dont have n e modem in my home :S what i have is a fibar optic media converter :S :S :S i UTP cable came from my it to my lan card thats it12:22
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Jucatowell whatever that is. is it connected and turned on?12:23
HOLLOWMA_Nlol12:23
HOLLOWMA_N100$12:23
HOLLOWMA_N100%*12:23
Jucatohm...12:23
Jucatotry the command again? :(12:23
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Jucatoit has never failed me before12:23
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ChousukePPPoE :(12:23
freemanwhat?12:24
Jennahangthedj, any idea when  that thing will be fixed/issued ?12:24
Chousukewhat's wrong with a simple ethernet connection that doesn't ask for passwords? :P12:24
JucatoChousuke: ask our ISP's :(12:24
hangthedjJenna: not sure at all, Tribe 5 of gutsy seems to work very well.12:24
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HOLLOWMA_N:(12:25
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eduardhello, does anyone know how to rename files that have spaces, using prefixsuffix ?12:26
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Jucatohuh?12:27
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owlmv this\ is-a-file foobar12:27
owl?12:27
eduardi'm using prefixsuffix in order to rename a batch of files12:28
Jucatooh prefixsuffix is a program?12:28
eduardyes12:28
eduardfor example 1 2.mp312:28
SlimeyPeteenclose the name in double-quotes?12:28
eduardhmm12:28
eduardleme try12:28
Jucatothere's krename too btw12:28
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Jucatogwenrename - Batch renamer tool for KDE12:29
Jucatokrename - Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x12:29
eduardnop, double-quotes do not work. guess i'll try krename12:29
eduard10x12:29
Jucatogotta love these abbreviated words :P12:29
eduard:)12:29
Jucatoyw12:30
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soa2iiHi... i just statred my Kubuntu and my keyboard is weird....12:31
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soa2iisomtimes if i enter a char12:31
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soa2iia lot of those chars are printed12:31
Turazoorhey peeps, having some problems with a usb adaptor!12:31
soa2iieverything else is fine12:32
Turazoordoes anyone know why plugging a Wireless adaptor would slow up da system?12:32
soa2iiand the system is at normal speed12:32
Jucatosoa2ii: check the keyboard repeat rate in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard12:32
soa2iiJucato: nono....12:32
soa2iiit is just sometimes12:32
soa2iii tried it really lowly12:32
soa2iii cant even login12:33
soa2iibecause entering passwords became impossible12:33
HOLLOWMA_Nhangthedj can u tell me what i need to setup a DSL or cabale modem in Kubuntu ?12:33
eduardbut does the chars apear quick, or is there a delay12:33
eduardbecause i'm thinking that the buttons might get stuck12:33
eduardor something12:33
soa2iieverything is normal.....12:33
soa2iino12:33
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soa2iiit's like that...12:34
soa2ii(every char is typed with 1 sec break and really fast)12:34
HOLLOWMA_Nn e one plz tell me the general info that i need to setup my dsl or cable modem in Kubuntu12:34
soa2iiHello thhhhhhhhhhhhhere12:34
SlimeyPete!adsl12:34
SlimeyPete!dsl12:34
soa2iiand if i'll do it again12:34
SlimeyPetehrm, nada12:34
freemanHELLO12:34
soa2iiit would maybe llok like12:34
HOLLOWMA_N!dsl12:34
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hangthedjubotus depressed12:35
soa2iiHelllllllllllllllllllllo there12:35
JucatoI'm guessing it might be a keyboard problem though12:35
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE12:35
Jucatohardware*12:35
hangthedjHOLLOWMA_N: i'm sorry i really can't.  as far as login stuff.12:35
soa2iihm...12:35
gronbaek!vpn12:35
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eduarddo you have an usb keyboard?12:35
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD12:36
hangthedjdoes anybody know what package has il.h?12:36
soa2iiyesterday i tried to enable udma for dev/hdc no12:36
Jucatohangthedj: a header file?12:36
soa2iieduard: PS2 keyboard12:36
soa2iiwith sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc12:36
hangthedjright.12:36
hangthedji'm getting a compile error, missing il.H12:37
Jucatohangthedj: libdevil-dev12:37
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Jucatohangthedj: http://packages.ubuntu.com is a very nice site ;)12:37
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hangthedji know :p, i'm a lazy12:38
Jucatonext time you ask, I'll be too lazy to answer :P12:38
Jucatofair 'nuff? :)12:38
soa2iiJucato: what can i do now?12:39
hangthedjok fine :D12:39
Jucatosoa2ii: sorry I have no idea, because I don't even know what the source of the problem is.12:39
Jucatoif you have an extra keyboard lying around...12:39
soa2iibut hdparm got nothing to do with it... or?12:40
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Jucatohm... hdparm is for hard disks... don't think it should affect it12:40
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phimichi all i use compiz with kubuntu 7.10, i have a small shadow in kicker and kde-startmenu, someone know how i can disable that12:41
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hangthedjalright, gotta sleep12:45
Turazoorhi there, i'm a little new to linux, can anyone tell me why typing "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper" does not work?12:45
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SlimeyPeteTurazoor: do you get an error message?12:45
TurazoorSlimeyPete: yeah, COuldn't find package12:46
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soa2iihehe12:46
soa2iithen the name is wrong12:46
soa2iiTurazoor: what do you get with12:46
eduardtry sudo apt-get update12:46
soa2iiaptitude search ndiswrapper12:46
Turazoorkk12:46
Turazoorah ha.... the search reveals multiple versions, cheers soa2ii12:47
soa2iii hope you'll take the right one ;)12:47
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TurazoorYay... gonna take the source one, seems to right course of action lol12:48
soa2ii:P12:48
soa2iii don't know... never used ndiswrapper12:48
Turazooranyone know how to use Ndiswrapper ha ha ha ha ha12:48
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soa2iii think the wiki knows ;)12:49
Jucato!ndiswrapper12:49
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:49
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owl.oO( somehow i like this channel/community )12:49
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Turazoorerrr... i'm hoping this Ndiswrapper will stop the buggyness when I plug my usb wireless in, because linux goes to an almost stand still everytime I plug it in! Would that have anything to do with the drivers, because it worked perfectly on the live cd12:51
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soa2iihm...12:53
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soa2iiwhat card is it?12:53
TurazoorBelkin 54g USB Adaptor12:53
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soa2iihm mom12:55
bhaskarkhow to add gtalk voice support to kopete?12:56
soa2iiTurazoor: a more special dscription?12:56
Turazoorerrrr....?12:56
soa2iiF5D6051 ?12:56
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soa2iiif you plug the stick in...12:57
Turazoornope hang on... will find u it on the net... if u want12:57
soa2iiwhat does lsusb show?12:57
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Turazoorisusb?12:58
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soa2iilsusb12:58
soa2iiin the terminal12:59
Turazoorwell theres the stick itself and i'll check the lsusb.............http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=17921112:59
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Turazoorahhh... thats cool! err... it's not plugged in at da mo cos it slows it up too much did u need to definetly know what lsusb says wen its plugged in, cos i'll have to reboot to revive01:00
Turazoor....it does say there's something on Bus 005 tho, and i have no USB plugged in01:01
soa2iihm... one moment01:01
Turazoorkk01:01
soa2iithe stick uses a broadcom chipset01:01
Turazoorok...... lol.... and that means?01:01
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soa2iilsusb or lspci do not say smth else?01:03
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soa2iidamn... you better shoul have bought smth with "real" linux drivers ;)01:04
Turazoorlspci lists lots of USB controllers, and ethernet port, and vga, firewire, host and pci bridge etc... etc...01:04
soa2iismth that looks like you wlan?01:05
hayamihi how can i upgrade my wine version? =o01:05
Turazoori'll plug it in, if i disappear it's because i got annoyed with the slowness lol, i'll run lsusb then....01:05
soa2iiok (:01:05
soa2iiand lspci01:05
Turazoorkk01:05
Turazoorits in and the lag begins lol01:05
soa2iifine (:01:06
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kewl_hallo01:07
Turazoorok then lsusb has the deivce in the list, Bus 005, device, 003, ID 050d:705a Belkin Components01:07
Turazoorincedently there are another 2 Buss 005 entries01:08
soa2iiand lspci?01:08
soa2iilshw maybe says smth too...01:08
Turazoorkk cant see anything different i nthat list01:08
soa2iihm ok...01:08
Turazoorshould there be sumthing different in lspci?01:09
soa2iibecause it would be interesting wich chipset the wlan uses....01:09
soa2iibecause there are different drivers01:09
soa2ii:/01:09
Turazoorok01:09
Fusion_does anyone have any ideas how to make my pcmcia capture card work in feisty? thanks01:09
jussi01hmmm, Im trying to play an mp3, however the dialogue for no mp3 support for amorak has no text.... help?01:10
soa2iieveryone got wlan probs.... :P01:10
soa2iihehe01:10
Turazoorso if i got ndiswrapper working properly, do u reckon that solve da problem.... the interesting point is that  the usb didn't slow the system at all01:10
soa2iijussi01: try sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs ;)01:10
Turazoorwen i was using the live cd...01:10
jussi01soa2ii: yeah, I know, however, I still would want this to work...01:11
soa2iiTurazoor: maybe you should watch lsusb once with the live cd01:11
kewl_i want to check which modem is in use, which command shld i use?01:11
soa2iikewl_: ifconfig maybe...01:12
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Turazoorsoa2ii: the usb device worked on my dodgy live cd lol! so i'll try that first followed by my other live cd that works lol! see u all in a bit01:12
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kewl_soa2ii:ok01:12
soa2iijussi01: and... does it work?01:13
soa2ii(dont forget torestart amarok)01:13
kewl_soa2ii:command not found :)01:13
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soa2iiifconfig??01:13
soa2iimom01:13
soa2iiare you sure?01:13
jussi01soa2ii: of course it works. However, If there is something wrong,I want to report a bug and have it fixed, not just a work around.01:14
goban_i installed compiz fusion how do i start it?01:14
goban_just restart x?01:14
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hayamiyou can put a frontend01:14
kewl_actually i m on debian base01:14
soa2iigoban_: compiz and kde is a little complicated...01:14
soa2iikewl_: even debian got ifconfig ;)01:14
lnx__in mandriva when i start the first time kde i gave me wizard that autoconfig for me the effects\preformance settings how i can run it in kubuntu ?01:14
hayamianyone can help me? i'm trying to install a game with wine01:14
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jussi01goban_: #ubuntu-effects for more help01:15
goban_soa2ii: i see! thanks01:15
kewl_soa2ii: its dream linux ;)01:15
soa2iigoban_: i think with kde4 everything would be better....01:15
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goban_soa2ii: installing that :) tyty!01:16
kewl_,01:17
lnx__someone ?01:18
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goban_network settings isnt in the gnome menu?01:23
goban_inx01:23
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goban_or kde menu sry01:25
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Turazoorhi peeps, errr... it's not lagging the system and now it says its on Bus 004 in lsusb as apposed to bus00501:27
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Turazoor??01:29
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kinghello01:31
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TurazoorAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH01:31
Turazoorhe's gone!01:31
TurazoorMr_Sonoma: u there?01:32
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Turazoorsomeone please help before i go crazy, how do i setup the Buses in lsusb01:33
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Turazoormy wireless usb adaptor lags kubuntu 7.04 out, but when in the live cd works with out bug!01:33
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Turazoorbut it goes onto bus 5 when on hd copy, and bus 4 when on live cd???? WHY??? and how do i chang it01:34
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Ace2016hi all01:34
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TurazoorGOD DAMN IT!01:35
Turazoorlol01:35
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dthacker!language | Turazoor01:35
ubotuTurazoor: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:35
Turazoorsoz01:35
Turazoordidn't realise...01:35
Turazoorfort that applied to da "other" words01:35
Turazoorbut can someone please help01:35
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dthackernp ;)01:36
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Turazoorlol01:36
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ScarFreewillwhat is the command to reset apt/adept/apitude01:42
ScarFreewillarchive locked.. but there is no prosesses running01:43
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ScarFreewillhello Cyclone[w] 01:44
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SlimeyPeteScarFreewill: sudo touch /var/lib/apt/lists/lock01:45
SlimeyPete(iirc)01:45
ScarFreewillthanks01:45
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bhaskarkis ther any error in this "sudo ln - s libdbus-1.so.2 - > /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.2.0" iam getting permission denied01:47
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jussi01ScarFreewill: did you get it fixed?01:48
jussi01if not...01:48
jussi01!adeptfix01:48
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:48
ScarFreewillok01:49
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Turazoorwould anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"01:50
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kewl_hallo i need help about modem01:51
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manchickenbhaskark: Don't do that.01:52
Turazoorwould anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"01:52
rc-1from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php, what does put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde (what lines and put them where?)01:53
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manchickenTurazoor: I'd ask that question around in #ubuntu as well.  I think more folks dealing with hardware issues may be here.01:54
Turazoorah ha cheers01:55
kewl_turazoor:i m not linux geek but i m using net from my cell....so i thnk i might b able to help u01:55
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jussi01rc-1: its the 4 lines starting with export - the dot in front, that are just abve that01:57
jussi01and put them at the start of that file01:57
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bjwebbhi01:57
bjwebbdoes kubuntu include pppd by default?01:57
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jussi01bjwebb: I think so01:57
jussi01it has kppp included...01:58
bjwebbhmm its for the eciadsl driver01:58
bjwebb(for winmodems)01:58
bjwebbthese are the packages i need: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/doc.php?file=eciadsl_install&doc_lang=en&view=html#Pre_002drequisites01:58
jussi01oh, probably not then01:58
jussi01!info pppd01:58
ubotuPackage pppd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:58
jussi01!info pppd gutsy01:59
ubotuPackage pppd does not exist in gutsy01:59
jussi01doesnt look like it01:59
jussi01sorry01:59
bjwebbhmm01:59
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jussi01oh hang on01:59
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jussi01kppp should do the same thing aspppd01:59
bjwebbhmmm02:00
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bjwebbbut will eciadsl see it?02:00
jussi01as that site says: PPP support (including usermode pppd package >=2.4.0)02:00
bjwebbhow do i search the packages i have installed?02:00
jussi01!info kppp02:00
ubotukppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 675 kB, installed size 3696 kB02:00
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bjwebboptional? does that mean it would arrive off the cd?02:00
enryhi. someone can help?02:01
pag!ask | enry02:01
ubotuenry: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:01
enryoh well.02:01
enryconnection problem:02:01
jussi01bjwebb: it just means that it isnt essential for a system to run...02:02
bjwebbjussi01: right02:02
enrysometimes it is as connection is "blocked"02:02
enryi'll explain better02:02
bjwebbis there a way to find out what packages are in feisty default install? - would be useful in future too02:03
enryethernet modem, connection is ok, but sometimes, for example, browsing stops for a while02:03
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jussi01enry: if you need support in italian there is quite an active italian channel...02:03
enryand then is comes ok again02:03
enryoh...02:04
jussi01!it | enry02:04
ubotuenry: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:04
enrythanks, what is channel's name?02:04
jussi01hope that is helpful :)02:04
enrywell, thanks!02:04
enrybut i should understand also english :D02:05
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jussi01enry: are you sure it isnt just a site problem?02:05
enryno, i have the same problem for every sites02:05
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enrybut connection doesn't really brake, is's just as it is blocked for some seconds sometimes02:06
jussi01enry: which version of kubuntu are you running?02:06
enryfeisty02:06
jussi01and how long is this pause?02:06
enryjust some seconds02:06
enrybut02:06
bjwebbis there a way to find out what packages are in feisty default install? - would be useful in future too02:06
enryit comes rather frequently02:06
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jussi01enry: thats weird, I had that issue on edgy, but not now. which browser do you use?02:07
enryff02:07
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jussi01enry: doe it do the same in konq?02:08
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enryyeah02:08
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jussi01enry: Im sorry, I dont know. maybe wait around and ask agin in 15-30 mins. hopefully someone will be here to help then. sorry02:09
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enryok, thanks :)02:09
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enryanother problem:02:10
enryshutdown02:10
jussi01yes?02:10
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Cyclone_nbwhats the default mysql pass?02:10
zipperenry, i havent followed the discussion, but as far as i can tell you have a problem with your connection "dropping" once in a while yes?02:10
enrywhen i shutdown through kde02:10
enryzipper02:10
enryit doesn't really drop02:10
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enryit's like frozen for some seconds02:11
enryand then it comes back ok02:11
zipperenry, if it also happends in windows, you might want to consider trying lowering the MTU on your router. At least that helped for me (dropped it from 1500 to 1300)02:11
zipperno guarantee that it will work, but i guess its worth a shot02:11
enryi have a modem02:11
zipperoh02:11
zipperhmm, it might have a MTU setting anyway02:12
enrymtu?02:12
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zippergoogle02:12
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bjwebbwhere would there be a list packages on kubuntu feisty default install02:12
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jussi01enry: the reason I suggested the italian channel is you may find someone in there that has the same modem/operator/problem...02:12
enryi see...02:12
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enrycould it be related to ethernet card?02:13
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enryok, thanks!02:15
kubuntuxa tutti02:15
Jucato!it | kubuntux02:16
ubotukubuntux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:16
kubuntuxgrazie e scusate02:16
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tattersanyone got a centrino b/g card (ipw2200) runnig gusty fails to power up card  "ipw2200: Failed to send TX_POWER: Command timed out."02:23
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BluesKaj'Morning all  :)02:29
paghello BluesKaj :)02:30
BluesKajhi pag02:30
BluesKajcoffee!02:30
owlmoin. coffee? *looking innocently arround* where?02:32
Turazoorwould anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"02:33
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sammyHallo02:33
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sammyHat hier jemand ahnung von css02:34
mileshi02:34
Jucato!de | sammy02:35
ubotusammy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:35
Turazoorwould anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"02:36
sammyTest02:36
owlis there a hidden sense in double-posting?02:36
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BluesKaj!nl02:36
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl02:36
Turazoorowl: yeah wen nobody replies to my questions02:37
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Turazoori've tried in several IRC rooms now, so i'm posting in all of em!02:37
Turazoorthe problem is driving me crazy02:37
owl^^02:37
jussi01Turazoor: if you are being helped in one channel, it is considered rude to ask at the same time in another channel02:38
owlmaybe nobody knows a solution? double-posting won't fix the problem. everyone can read it 10 lines above...02:38
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jussi01owl: to be fair, his last post was 40 mins ago02:38
Turazoorok peeps....! I'm sorry just annoyed dat all!02:38
Turazoorthankyou jussi02:38
jussi01;)02:38
owljussi01: no? 14:32+14:3502:39
BluesKajTurazoor, usb external drive ?02:39
Turazoornah wieless02:39
Turazoor*wireless02:39
jussi01owl: hehe... i didnt even see that one....look about 40 mins ago...lol02:39
Turazoorkk peeps so it wasn't 40mins, i'm sorry i shan't do it again!02:39
owljussi01: hehehe02:39
Turazoorkk peeps so it wasn't 40mins, i'm sorry i shan't do it again!02:40
Turazoorlol02:40
jussi01lol02:40
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jussi01!hobbsee | Turazoor02:40
ubotuTurazoor: I phear the stick so shhhhh02:40
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Turazoorwhat?02:40
Turazoorlol is that the room bot?02:41
Jucato!ubotu | Turazoor02:41
ubotuTurazoor: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:41
BluesKajuhmm Turazoor , wireless isn't as fast as a normal setup...and expecting it be so is very optimistic02:42
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TurazoorBluesKaj: ei, but my device set itself up and worked in the live cd version without any hassle/well me do anything lol! Now once installed it bugs the system out, how does that make sense02:43
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BluesKajis the live cddrive wireless like the HDD ?02:44
Turazoor.....wot?02:44
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BluesKajnm, obviously I can't understand you02:45
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Turazoorbasically, when i plug my USB adpator into the PC using the installed version of ubuntu, it lags out, and becomes very sluggish! however if i use the live cd, there's no lag and it places the wireless usb device on a different bus to the one it is on when it lags02:46
phimicsomeone in here who use kubuntu 7.10 with compitz and emerald?02:46
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BluesKaj!compiz | phimic02:47
ubotuphimic: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:47
jussi01hehe02:47
jussi01beat me to iot02:47
BluesKajTurazoor, wirelss usb adaptor ?02:48
Turazooryeah02:49
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BluesKajwireless is much slower transmitting the drive info than a normal, even wired usb drive can be02:50
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Turazoorit's a WI-FI usb network adaptor02:51
Turazoorlol02:52
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BluesKajyup, expecting it to have no lag is very optimistic as I said previously02:52
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Turazoorno but the whole system lags out!02:53
Turazoorlike the mouse, the icons, the stuff on screen leaves horrible trails etc02:53
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Cyclone_nbis there a php5 mssql extention for kubuntu?02:55
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Turazoorerrr... apache lol!02:56
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Cyclone_nb?02:57
Turazoornm02:58
Turazoor...wrong channel02:58
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kubuntuxsono riuscito ad installare il modem sul mio portatile02:59
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drif!kubuntu-it | kubuntux03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
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Turazoor!peripherals03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about peripherals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
kubuntuxma funziona solo con interfaccia kde   normale?03:00
Jucato!it | kubuntux03:00
ubotukubuntux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:00
kubuntuxsorry03:01
drifJucato: yup :D realised it after I had typed it..03:01
JCDGso, en verdad usemos solo inlges es mejor para todos, GRACIAS03:01
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ubotuJCDG: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:01
zipperI have 2 soundcards in my pc (both works). How do i select which should be used (for amarok especially)?03:02
JCDGi was just joking, i0ve already join those channels03:02
zipperi've been searching the "sound settings", but been unable to find anything03:02
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Jucato:/03:03
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blizzzhow can i perform hyphenation in kword? i do net see any menu entry, but a place to make a hook for autmoativ hyphenation. but it did not divide any words..03:06
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BluesKajTurazoor, your system memory is prolly very busy dealing with heavy wireless traffic the internal HD and all the other devices at once. Run ' top' to see what system processes are using up all your resources03:07
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Turazoorusing 7% lol03:08
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ubuntu_I thought of having 2 linux partitions (Kubuntu and the other one for testing different distros). If I make one swap partition, do both of the distros automatically use it, or is it reserved for just one?03:09
hydrogenboth can use it03:09
ubuntu_Alright thanks. :)03:10
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BluesKajyeah , but you're on live cd , run top with the external HDD03:11
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BluesKajwell you run ine distro at atime so why have 2 swaps ?03:12
BluesKajone03:12
BluesKajnow my ssytem is lagging  :)03:13
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Angeluswho you talkin to BluesKaj?03:18
Angeluslol03:18
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job424Is there a method for support in this room, or just ask questions?03:19
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BluesKajeveryone Angelus03:19
BluesKaj!ask03:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:19
hydrogenwell03:19
hydrogenfirst you give me a cake03:19
hydrogenthen you ask someone else a question03:19
hydrogenthen you give me a steak03:20
hydrogenthen you ask someone else a question03:20
Angeluslofl!!03:20
BluesKajdesert before the steak ?03:20
hydrogenno03:20
hydrogensteaks the desert03:20
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BluesKajmust be a sugar freak03:21
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job424wow... hydrogen... Dr Suess here, eh?03:21
job424Okay, in that case.... I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 and having wireless issues.03:22
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BluesKaj!wireless | job42403:22
ubotujob424: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:22
job424I go to load the networks listed, and it shows the adapter as disabled... I go to re-enable it, and it just disables again... nothing worls03:22
job424ah03:22
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dr_WillisRight now i got an issue with ktorrent (i think) i can get 99.90% of a torrent - but it WONT get that last little bit.03:24
dr_WillisI saw a similer issue MONTHS ago. but it got fixed.. the bug has reappeared?03:25
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dwidmann_hydrogen: sounds like a wonderful procedure, so brilliant that I wish I had thought of it myself :D03:25
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pagdr_Willis, are you sure that the issue isn't with that specific torrent?03:25
dr_Willispag,  been doing it with 2 torrents now.03:25
Jucatogenii: it's coffee now eh? :)03:25
dr_Willisboth stopped at 99.90 %03:25
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dr_Williswell they dident Stop.. they are still trying to download.03:26
dwidmann_genii: switched back from beer?03:26
geniiJucato: At work, it's coffee03:26
Jucatohhehe03:26
dr_Willisat .01 k/s and they keepo getting a reset message03:26
geniidwidmann: See above :)03:26
dr_WillisTryin ga differnet torrent client now to 'prove' its a ktorrent issue03:26
BluesKajdr_Willis, you got one of those locked torrents that uses you as a server ...i had one that went on for days and it wouldn't finish up , the file was 700mb but i seeded about 4gig before i realized what was going on03:26
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dwidmann_BluesKaj: I envy your internet connection03:27
dr_WillisBluesKaj,  Huh? 2 in a row tho? and the files are not done.  still missing one 'block' or whatever it is.03:27
BluesKajBTW it was also corrupted03:27
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dr_WillisIts possible this one is currupted. :) never can tell03:27
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dr_Willisgotta love split up rars' that contain 100+ zip files03:27
BluesKajdwidmann , I wasn't paying much attn at the time :)03:28
Biovore^ check the check sum03:28
dwidmannNow for the big decision, whether to stay on on my laptop or my desktop :s03:28
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genii*answer03:29
geniiI must need more coffee03:29
BluesKajdwidmann , my net connection is 550kbs down in real numbers and 300kbs up ..supposedly ultra hi-speed ADSL03:29
dwidmannlaptop it is03:29
dwidmannBluesKaj: that's fantastic upspeed, and still very good download speed.03:30
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dwidmannI'm more like 100kbs down, 2kbs up, and I get FAPd after about 120-150mb03:31
SlimeyPeteeh? those are terrible speeds03:31
Chousukeif it's kbs it's not very fantastic, so I'm assuming you mean kBs?03:31
BluesKajbeats the dialup I had back in '99 when that's all that was available :)03:31
drifChousuke: my thoughts exactly..03:31
geniiBluesKaj: Nothing like trying to download an iso over 14.4 modem connection03:31
dwidmannso wait, yes, definitely answer Chousuke's question BluesKaj, that'd clear something up.03:31
Chousukeif it's kbs then it's about equivalent to the lowest speed ADSL available here :P03:31
egonhello, 1 question i guess that kde 4 beta 2 sould release on 27th aug but now it is the 30th aug and i cant see anything like kde 4 beta 2 ... wath happend?03:32
BluesKajdwidmann, well i'm paying $50/mos for it03:32
dwidmanngenii: I've done that before, fun times.03:32
egonxD03:32
drifChousuke: they made those connections illegal here.. ;)03:32
Jucatoegon: patience is a virtue :)03:32
geniidwidmann: Me too :)03:32
dwidmannBluesKaj: and mine is crappier yet I pay $60/month :( One thing that sucks about living 5 miles out of town.03:32
Chousukedrif: illegal? :|03:32
Chousukeuhh.03:32
Chousukewtf03:32
egonJucato: i know but im so exited about it :D03:33
Jucatoegon: there might be some delays, so best not to wait too much :)03:33
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drifChousuke: well, operators can't sell so low quality services  :D don't take anything so literally03:33
ksivaji!info gtk03:33
ubotuPackage gtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:33
ChousukeBluesKaj: seriously, tell me, is this a 0.5Mbps or a 5Mbps connection :P03:33
BluesKajdwidmann, i live in a small town of 5500 ppl , but we have most services that much larger centers have .03:33
ksivaji!gtk03:33
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI03:33
Chousukebecause 5Mbps is pretty fast, while 0.5Mbps is slow as hell.03:33
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dwidmannI used to have a 5.5MBs connection. I miss those days :(03:34
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egonJucato: so do you mean it may come Tomorrow?03:34
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BluesKajChousuke, real world is 550 kbs , adverted at 5mbs ...different calcs tho , I think03:35
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Jucatoegon: it may or it may not. the schedule is for "tagging", not for "release"03:35
egonIm so excited!!! xD03:35
Jucatotwo different things03:35
ChousukeBluesKaj: What you need to specify is bits or bytes03:35
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egonJucato: k thx for infomation :D03:35
Jucatoegon: there might be a deloy for the actual release itself, so try to calm down just a bit more :)03:35
BluesKajyea the 5mbs is bits methinks03:35
ChousukeBluesKaj: 5Mbps (megabits per second) would be ~550 megabytes per second03:35
Jucatoactual stable 4.0 release03:35
dwidmannBluesKaj: what they advertise in is kbps/mbps, what you look at when downloading someting is KBs/MBs03:36
SlimeyPeteChousuke: kilobytes ;p03:36
egonJucato: k i try to but i would be hard xD03:36
ChousukeSlimeyPete: riight03:36
ChousukeBluesKaj: well, then it's quite speedy. :)03:36
egonit will xD03:36
Jucatoheh03:36
egon( gramma xD )03:36
BluesKajdwidmann, yeah I'm aware of that03:36
Chousuke550 megabytes per second would be fun03:36
Jucatoegon: if you really can't wait and willing to take the risks and pains, just compile it all :P03:36
drifrather03:36
dwidmannI don't get why exactly they do that, must be the bigger number :(03:36
Chousukeyou'd need 10Gbps ethernet and *fast* hard drives.03:36
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Chousukeor loads and loads of RAM03:37
BluesKajI live about 500meters from the switch , which helps03:37
SlimeyPetedwidmann: that's exactly it.03:37
drifBluesKaj: not soo speedy then, but atleast upspeed is decent, mine is the bottleneck :-\ 8/1Mbps03:37
egonJucato: xD nono that to much work for me im Putridly03:37
dwidmannThey like to sell big numbers ... I can only imagine what Intel went through with some of their less educated customers when they switched to the Core Duos & Cure 2 Duos03:37
Chousukeheh03:37
Chousuke<3 Core2Duo03:37
dwidmannYes03:38
dwidmannThat03:38
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egonMouldMouldMouldMouldMouldMould03:38
egonxD03:38
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ChousukeAMD needs to one-up intel again so they'll make even better processors.03:38
dwidmannMy fingers are dyslexic and they don't speel terribbbly weell.03:38
dr_WillisChousuke,  yep. gotta love the leapfrogging cpu makers.03:38
dr_WillisI cant even keep todays cpu's straight...03:39
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ChousukeAt least we have two of them, kicking each other in the behind. :P03:39
dr_Willisthe quad core s seem a bit slower..but would they be worth the extra cost.. and so forth.03:39
Ace2016omg i just found the best thing ever, xgl + ut2004 gives rendering problems!!!03:39
dr_Willisdont even get me started on the HUGE mess of nvidia cards/chips/makes now in video cards.03:40
dwidmannAce2016: sounds fantastic03:40
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Ace2016everything is very dark apart from players and lights and some textures, and you can shoot the enemy from far away, i got kicked fo spawn killing!!! :D03:40
SlimeyPetexgl + opengl gives rendering problems ;)03:40
ChousukeAce2016: :P03:40
Ace2016you can see everyone very clearly03:40
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Ace2016but framerate sucks03:40
job424Okay, I'm back... and I couldnt find a single bit of information in relevance to *MY* wireless issue03:40
Chousukethat's unintentional cheating I suppose.03:40
Ace2016yea but its great03:40
Chousukethough xgl having rendering trouble isn't exactly news.03:41
dwidmannKind of like the turbo button deal of the past?03:41
dr_Willisdwidmann,  a friend at work some how got "EverQuest1" to go in to turbo mode by starting the game on his laptop, on battery power.. (thus the cpu was slower) Then pluigging it into the outlet.03:42
dwidmannHow to spell xgl: t-r-o-u-b-l-e03:42
Chousukedwidmann: the turbo button was great! My friend overclocked his Pentium to 999MHz with it!03:42
dr_WillisThe game then speed up the clock, and his mana regen and so forth skyrocketd.03:42
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Chousuke(if you held the button for long enough, the MHz would never stop increasing)03:43
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dwidmanndr_Willis: interesting03:43
dwidmannChousuke: That's insanely fast for a P1 :O03:43
drifChousuke: you mean just tweaked the actual numbers on panel? ;)03:43
Chousukedrif: yeah ;P03:43
dr_WillisOk.. letting another torrent client try my torrent.03:43
Chousukebut hey, it was an LCD panel!03:43
Chousukeand it said "999"03:43
drifso it must be true.03:43
Chousukeyes.03:44
drifeverything written is solid03:44
dr_Willisturn the lcd upside down = evil pc. ;)03:44
dwidmannBut of course, the things we read would never lie to us.03:44
Chousukedrif: everything written on lcd displays03:44
Chousukedrif: my old powerbook ran at 666MHz in power saving mode. :)03:44
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drifChousuke: especially those - and for some people maybe occasionally found carved on rocks03:44
job424Can anyone assist me with that issue?03:45
drifChousuke: I smell #offtopic :D03:45
dwidmannjob424: sure thing03:45
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job424I was referred to the wireless community pages03:45
Chousukedrif: true.03:46
job424and didnt find any information on the problem I'm having03:46
dwidmann/j #kubuntu-offtopic dr_Willis dwidmann Chousuke drif :)03:46
job424and have been searching for 2 days03:46
BluesKajjob424, broadcom ?03:46
job424ack... i want to say so... let me check to be 100% sure03:46
job424its a gateway lappy03:46
drifdwidmann: interesting way of 'telling' yourself to join as well :D03:46
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dwidmanndrif: I found it amusing anyhow03:47
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dr_WillisIs it offtopic to say theres a Cricket in my computer room on a shelf right next to me..making LOUD chirping noises? :)03:47
dr_WillisGotta find him and.. remove him. BRB.03:48
job424Yes, broadcom I believe03:48
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job424Right now I pull up the KNetworkManager... do the manual configuration...03:48
job424and it shows the eth0 (wired) as enabled, and the eth1 (wireless) as disabled03:48
BluesKajjob424, there ppl here who can help if you tell us which wireless card your laptop has03:48
job424I just did above, Broadcom03:49
venikWhy do programs disappear all of a sudden, spontaneously?  Basket (Notes utility) has disappeared several times...03:49
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job424then when I go to re-enable the wireless... it just disables instantly again03:49
BluesKajoh sorry , was typing and not reading at the same time ...terrible habit to have :)03:50
job424:)03:50
BluesKaj!broadcom03:50
dr_Williswell my Ktorrent Issues seem to be ktorrent related. The torrent is finishing in Deluge.03:51
dr_WillisStill not sure how to report the bug.   Or if it was really a bug.03:51
dr_Williscould of been some tracker/seeders being dumb.03:51
drifdr_Willis: I've noticed those as well03:52
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dwidmannjob424: sudo lshw -class network03:52
drifdr_Willis: need to finish the last percentages (sometimes) with another client03:52
dr_Willisdrif,  yep. Bingo.03:52
job424Yes, 100% broadcom adapter :)03:53
dr_Willisdrif,  had similer issue ages ago.. then it was fixed.. now its back03:53
drifdr_Willis: which version are you using?03:53
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BluesKaj!ndiswrapper03:53
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:53
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dr_Willis2.2.1 i think. got deluge going at themoment.03:54
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job424yeah, we've establihed that ubotu... didnt help03:54
job424They were working on actualy helping me.03:54
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BluesKajc'mon you wireless experts .. job424 needs help !03:54
dr_Willis!bot03:54
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:54
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job424yeah... ps i'm kubuntu illiterate :D03:55
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job424*everyone runs out of the room*03:55
BluesKaj<---knows dick about wireless ...I'm old school , I beleive in wired conns03:56
job424I would wire it, but the woman wont want a 50 foot wire in the house.03:56
job424hell, theres already a 100 ft cat6 in the attic from an abandoned project.. haha03:56
drifdr_Willis: would you recommend it?03:56
dwidmann BluesKaj: if you get a laptop that will change03:56
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Jucatoanyone here familiar with Add/Remove Programs (Adept Installer)?03:57
Jucatojust wondering if anyone knew under what name build-essential would be there03:58
SlimeyPeteit's just called "build-essential"03:58
BluesKaji have 50 ft of cat 5 running under the floor from router on wifes pc to this one03:58
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dr_Willisive hjad very few issues with ktorrent, other then this hanging at the last % bug.03:58
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Murlishowdy!03:58
BluesKajI could move the router but this setup works ok03:58
drifdr_Willis: which is quite annoying one..03:58
JucatoSlimeyPete: maybe in adept manager, but not in Add/remove programs03:59
MurlisGuess whos back :)03:59
drifJucato: why stick with add/remove :-\03:59
MurlisI still have problem with that freebsd drive under Ubuntu...03:59
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Jucatodrif: because I'm trying to sort of confirm a "bug" :)03:59
drifJucato: ah, got ya03:59
Jucatoor rather, confirm an undesirable behavior03:59
MurlisBut I have another question, easier I hope03:59
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dr_WillisYea. My torrent is Done, :)04:00
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dwidmannnow to pause that upgrade again lest I want to get FAPd :(04:00
MurlisI have folder that is shared to windows users via samba and I also need rw access to that folder via ftp for authorised users04:00
dranasgood morning04:01
Murlissamba is configured that all local network machines have access, no user/pass04:01
Murlisand then changed files or new files belong to nobody04:01
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Murlisbut then users from ftp (one user) can't change nor delete the file04:02
dwidmannmorning dranas04:02
Murlishow should I configure the folder permissions or samba or ftp so that everybody has rw access?04:02
dr_Willisfor samba its one way. :) for ftp its not the same I think04:03
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dr_Willisthat 'samba doc' package has the using samba book  in it- that has examples of a public share.04:03
dr_Willislrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    19 2007-07-12 17:44 Public -> /media/sda1/Public/04:03
dr_Willisis my Public samba dir.04:03
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dr_Willisbut i dont think i got it working where ANYONE can get in with no name/password04:04
dr_Willistheusers have tohave an account04:04
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Murlisso then windows users will receive password promt upon opening share?04:04
dr_WillisYes they do. Well actually windows uses their xp password by de4fault IU think. so it uses that - so they never see a requestor.04:05
dr_Willisbut somt times it gets confused.04:05
Murlisso then I will create user accounts on ubuntu for users, add them to one group and add ftp user to the same group?04:05
dr_WillisI set up windows users/liunux users/passwords identical on my lan.04:05
dr_WillisI just set a smbpasswd -a USERNAME for each windows users i want to access the shares. (and make them a linux account also)04:06
Murlisok, I see04:06
dr_WillisI dont use ftp.04:06
dr_WillisSSH is much better for my needs. :)04:06
owlssh? sftp?04:06
job424okay.. well let me ask a question then about the issue...04:06
Murliswhat's the difference?04:06
job424http://i-eat-noobs.blogspot.com/2007/08/get-wireless-working-in-ubuntu-704.html04:06
drifdr_Willis: with smaller files it's ok - but large quantities - not really04:07
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dwidmannssh = a secure shell, things can also be tunneled through it04:07
dwidmann!ssh04:07
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/04:07
job424On this page, it says "place them in the same folder, and run the commands from the terminal server"04:07
job424what folder should they be in?04:07
dr_Willisdrif,  vista has been such a pain. I use winscp and ssh on it . over samba. :) silly vista04:08
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drifdr_Willis: I haven't had a single encounter with vista ;) and proud of it04:08
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Murlisdr_Willis thank you! I will try your suggestion!04:08
dr_Willisdrif,  i fixed vista on the wifes laptop ... by instlling xp.04:08
job424"requested operation requires superuser privlege" ?????04:08
dr_WillisWIndows 95 booted on her laptop - then crashed on installing drivers.04:08
dr_Willisjob424,  sounds like a root needing task. use sudo, or gksu, or kdesu04:09
owlwtf are you doing with your wifes' laptop?04:09
drifjob424: sudo yourcommandwhichfailshere04:09
dr_Willisowl,  makingit work at a useable speed for her. Vista + 512ram = bad.04:09
dwidmann"yes | sudo apt-get install openssh-server", life made easy :)04:09
dr_Willisowl,  so in went a new clean hd + xp on it.04:09
owl*cough* but win 95?04:10
job424sudo dpkg04:10
DatradanHi!04:10
owlhi *04:10
dwidmanndr_willis: or in gutsy, kdesudo :)04:10
Datradani'm new on this channel :-)04:10
dr_Willisowl,  she just plays solitare and web surfes on it.04:10
owl*sigh*04:10
Datradansorry for my eghlish+04:10
dwidmannDatradan: hi04:10
job424i mean.... sudo dpkg -i --force-depends nsdisgtk_*.deb04:10
dr_Willisowl,  a big new $350 laptop. :) it was on sale.04:10
drifdr_Willis: yeah, I refused to buy laptop to my mother - all of'em bundled with vista these days :D so I gave her mine which had oem xp04:10
Datradanbut i've hidden the menu bar in konqueror and now i can't restore it XD04:10
dranasoi i just upgraded from dapper to edgy, and it seems adept has vanished04:11
owldr_Willis: yeah... might you want give me the laptop of your wife? :)04:11
dwidmanndrif: http://www.dell.com/open04:11
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dwidmanndrif: http://www.system76.com04:11
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dwidmannNot all;)04:11
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Datradannobody can help me?04:11
owldr_Willis: oeeeeeeeeeeeh. no, thx, i don't need a wife, but a laptop :)04:11
rustalothow do I upgrade to gutsy tribe 5?04:12
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drifdwidmann: true, but using some linux derivate wouldn't be wise - I'm living too far away if vnc/network fails and then no one locally couldn't help her out04:12
dwidmannDatradan: ctrl + m04:12
radioaktivstormhello, ubuntu's pretty busy. maybe you all can help. I cannot connect to open networks using my linux. i can connect to ones ive been on before. but for example it will see the free wireless at the airport.. but it will not connect to them it gets partway through and then quits... suggestions?04:13
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owl.oO( radioaktivstorm ?! strange nicknames... )04:13
rafal__g04:14
aguitelanyone helpme ?04:14
Datradanthanks now i try04:14
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dwidmannradioaktivstorm: ever since I upgraded (partially) to gutsy I don't even get that much, the wireless section has disappeared from my knetworkmanager :(04:15
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dranasoh wow it uninstalled adept04:15
GuyFromHellany way to get the system try icon thingies that didn't properly load into the system tray thingie to dock in there afterwords?04:15
drifpeople using their kubuntu for music/midi/audio production here?04:15
radioaktivstormowl, it doesnt ever need a number on the webs when i feel like using it :P04:15
radioaktivstormdwidmann ouch :( thats not cool at all04:15
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GuyFromHellnevermind... reloading... compiz.... fixed it04:16
dwidmannradioaktivstorm: much to my dismay I've now turned off wpa on my router and I'm connecting manually ...04:16
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blekoshi, anyone could tell me how to upgrade to gutsy from command line?04:16
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dranasyes04:17
drifand if I install ubuntustudio - am I under wrath of gnome? :-\04:17
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dr_Willis!upgrade04:17
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:17
Jucatoblekos: manually change all "feisty" to "gutsy" in /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:17
dr_WillisYea.. what he said. :)04:17
Jucatodr_Willis: although he did say "to gutsy"....04:18
dwidmannblekos: sudo sed s/feisty/gutsy/ -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:18
Jucato:)04:18
blekosok thx04:18
dwidmanndrat, beaten to it04:18
dranasuse sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list in the shell to edit it04:18
Jucatodwidmann: dist-upgrade :)04:18
Jucatodranas: in the shell? how can he run kate? :)04:18
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dwidmannJucato: magic?04:18
Jucatoimagemagick or graphicsmagick? :)04:18
blekoswhat does sed s does?04:18
dranasipen up konsole and try it youll see04:18
dranasopen*04:19
blekosjust to know04:19
dranasotherwise it wont let you save04:19
radioaktivstormdrif, im sure you can install the kde packages if you want them on ubuntu studio04:19
Jucatodranas: he's on the command line, right? so presuming he doesn'thave GUI running04:19
dwidmannblekos: search and replace all instances of feisty with gutsy :)04:19
blekoskool, i must write it down :)04:19
dwidmannbe back in 504:19
dranasi really dont think hes on the command line right now04:19
Jucatoblekos: sed - filter and transform text, basically search and replace04:19
Jucatodranas: not right now. but his question implies that when he makes the upgrade he would be04:20
Jucatoalso04:20
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Jucato!kdesu | dranas04:20
ubotudranas: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:20
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dranasor perhaps hes just gonna open a terminal and type the command in04:20
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Jucatoif you say so04:21
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radioaktivstormooo good info ubotu. ill remember that one for the kde apps04:22
dranasthats funny it uninstalled adept04:22
radioaktivstorm:P04:22
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genii*coffee04:22
owlthx genii :)04:22
geniiowl: np :)04:22
radioaktivstormusing this windows is killing me >_< so slow... so unresponsive.04:23
blekoss is for subtitue and i?04:23
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stephanejoin #ungi_cgt04:24
The_Machineanyone have this problem with Krdc where it just says "Establishing connection" and hangs there?04:24
Jucatoblekos: man:/sed in konqueror to find out04:24
Jucatoor man sed in konsole04:24
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sebbarhi, I remember there was a package to have video previews in konqueror, can anybody tell me what its name was? tnx04:25
radioaktivstormyou can read the man graphically in konqueror O_O04:25
radioaktivstormawesome.04:25
blekosok thnx04:25
Jucatoradioaktivstorm: man:/ and info:/04:25
Jucatothere's also a special apt:/ in Kubuntu (only)04:26
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radioaktivstormJucato: very interesting.... konqueror is more powerful than i thought. i was impressed by the ftp and sftp and stuff... but wow. thanks for the info :D04:27
dwidmannblekos: i for "in place"04:27
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blekosthank u04:27
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Jucatoradioaktivstorm: system:/ applications:/ sftp:/ fish:/04:28
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dwidmannradioaktivstorm: pull up khelp, look at the "KIO Slaves section" for a more or less complete list of those04:29
Jucatoof course, SUSE has another very useful one, sysinfo:/04:29
dwidmannJucato: yeah, that one did look pretty nice, can't you get it off of kde-apps.org though?04:30
Jucatoyou can I think. someone made a kubuntu package04:30
dranasim going back to sleep good....umm...morning i guess04:30
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Jucatosebbar: libarts1-xine04:31
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dwidmannI wish I could go back to sleep :(04:31
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JucatoI wish I could sleep early04:31
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radioaktivstormthanks Jucato, dwidmann :)  still need to get the wifi up and running so i can connect to the internet :\04:31
Jucatoaw...04:32
underdog5004genii, darn it, I recompiled with all the default options, but I still screwed up cron...it fails to load.bleagh04:32
radioaktivstormwifi works.. but only on the nets that i have configured... not open ones.... starbucks airports etc etc etc no wifi :(04:32
geniiunderdog5004: Thats bizarre04:33
underdog5004yeah, I know04:33
underdog5004when I do sudo /etc/init.d/cron start, it says [fail] 04:33
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dwidmannunderdog5004: if cron is giving you trouble, perhaps anacron will work?04:34
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underdog5004dwidmann, it may work, but it's just not worth my time04:35
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underdog5004I'll just reinstall the old kernel I haed04:35
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turazoorhi all,04:35
ubuntuhi04:35
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underdog5004actually, instead of rolling back that far, I'm gonna try out the -lowlatency build that's in the repos04:36
turazoor.... anyone know why whilst on the live cd for Kubuntu 7.04, my wireless network usb adaptor works, but when i install kubuntu why it glitches and slows the system04:36
snowdonkeyHey, can someone tell me how to access Power Management options in Dapper? Like here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowerManagementFeedback  I can only find the laptop power configuration04:36
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flakehow do I check to see if my modem is working, it's not in the kde/settings/periphereal menu04:39
turazoorit has something to do with the Bus04:39
turazooranyone know how i can change these Buses?04:39
turazoorgrrr04:40
turazoorlol04:40
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Mr_Sonomaturazoor, you were looking for me earlier?04:43
dwidmannturazoor: try checking your /var/log/syslog file, it may give you some hints that someone more experienced may be able to decipher (or that you can google :) )04:43
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dwidmannflake: well, if it's a modem, to see if it's working, just connect to and/or use the net? I would imagine ...04:45
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bbeck_I use AIM through Kopete, and I've noticed that for the past week or so, I'll just get dropped off the AIM network after long periods of inactivity, and when I want to get back on I have to exit Kopete wait a couple minutes then start Kopete back up before I can connect.  Has anyone else noticed this issue?04:45
flakeumm.. i have broadband04:45
flakewant to fax04:45
flakeit's not configured in networking option04:46
dwidmannattempt to fax?04:46
dwidmannflake: to see if linux sees it, you can use the command "sudo lspci -v"04:46
dwidmannor perhaps "sudo lshw"04:46
flakeus robotics unknown device, Communication Controller04:47
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flakeunclaimed communication controller04:48
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dwidmannWow! Setting up openssh-server and using fish:/ in konqueror is 100x easier than trying to use samba or nfs!04:51
Jucatoyou could also use sftp:/04:51
Jucato:)04:51
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dwidmannJucato: how much setup does that requiree?04:51
radioaktivstormoh hey, why cannot i use file transfer in kopete under aim?04:51
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Jucatodwidmann: nothing04:52
underdog5004genii, I just installed the -lowlatency kernel, and cron is still messed up04:52
dwidmann(openssh required me to install the package, and I was good to go ... I was really impressed after trying to force samba and nfs to work ...)04:52
underdog5004I'm going for a reinstall04:52
dwidmann(samba used to work well, then feisty came along)04:52
geniihmm04:52
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Mr_Sonomalol i thought i was the only one that went about blind setting up samba04:53
jucato-kubuoh....04:53
bbeck_radioaktivstorm: file transfer isn't supported for AIM in Kopete yet.04:53
radioaktivstormbbeck_ oh.04:53
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TonserPersonhello :)04:53
jucato-kubudwidmann: just install openssh-server on the machine that will run the ssh daemon, then on the client machine, just sftp:/ to the server04:53
dwidmann!adeptfix | dwidmann04:53
TonserPersoni get an error when i try to boot the Kubuntu install CD with my mouse plugged in04:54
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TonserPersonand it seems like i cant start the installer with my keyboard04:54
TonserPersonwhat to do?04:55
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dwidmannjucato-kubu: come to think of it, I should probably also get rid of nfs and samba to close a few security holes .. oh, and what differences will I see between using fish and using sftp?04:55
jucato-kubuhehe I always forget the answer to that04:55
jucato-kububut afaik, sftp is much safer and fish relies on perl hacks04:56
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dwidmannhmm, what's safer about it, you've aroused my curiosity :)04:56
jucato-kubuSFTP is a Secure file transfer protocol. sftp is an interactive file transfer program, similar to ftp, but it performs all operations over an encrypted ssh transport. It may use many of the features of ssh, including public key authentication and compression.04:57
tim__hello, I need to find which proccess (ID) is using a file, so I can kill that proccess. is there a command?04:57
jucato-kubudwidmann: there are some descriptions in KHelpCenter04:57
TonserPersoncan anyone help me?04:59
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bbeck_tim__: try using lsof04:59
tim__tnks05:00
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lnx_how i cam make the the tasks in the taskbar to have borders and not to fade  ?05:01
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venikWhy do programs disappear all of a sudden, spontaneously?  Basket (Notes utility) has disappeared several times...05:04
arashvenik,  eh, is this happening all the time or just happens this sesson?05:04
venikIt happened several times05:04
venikwith this program05:05
dwidmannJucato: I don't really see it saying anywhere in there either comparing the two or their security :\ (just read both help pages, and the sftp man page)05:05
arashvenik, is it just basket?05:05
venikIt did happen with other programs, but only with basket more than once05:05
venikwhen I re-installed Basket, it still had all the notes I stored in it05:06
arashhmmm, do you think it can be crashes (I'm actually noob :p, so I have no idea)05:06
Jucatodwidmann: sorry couldn't give you anymore info. but I've read/heard that somewhere before05:06
arashvenik, yea, you have to remove it's application data from your home folder05:06
venikNo-- I was grateful that it did not lose the data-- I nned these data!05:07
venikneed even05:07
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philipp__hi05:08
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dwidmannJucato: I guess this is as good a time to stress test my new wireless network as ever eh? (copying back and forth between my desktop and my laptop)05:08
dwidmann(only 13 gb :D)05:09
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Jucatook. you use fish. i'm using sftp05:09
Jucatoheheh half that size :)05:09
Jucatono wait, 10GB after all hahah05:09
dwidmannI'm using sftp atm, I'm going to take your word for it until I find out more, seems to work the same anyhow.05:09
dwidmanncrap, I'm only getting 1.2MB/s05:10
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dwidmannI wonder if that's related to the problems I've had since the last reboot most likely regarding my partial upgrade to gutsy.05:10
SlimeyPetetransferring files over ssh = slow05:10
dwidmannSlimeyPete: that's true too.05:11
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dwidmannSlimeyPete: though both computers are quite fast and should be able to handle the encryption relatively well05:11
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SlimeyPetedwidmann: I've never got better than 1.3mbytes/sec using ssh, even on fast computers.05:12
dwidmannSlimeyPete: I see05:12
JucatoI have 1.5 MB/s05:12
SlimeyPetethough my experience is by no means exhaustive ;)05:12
dwidmannSo I guess maybe it isn't the network :(05:12
Jucatowireless to wired..05:13
dwidmannYup05:13
Jucatolaptop to desktop heh :)05:13
egonhello, 1 question Kde 4 is now a little bit late so is it still right tath kde 4 comes to kubuntu 7.10? i hope so xD05:13
Jucatonope05:13
SlimeyPeteegon: not by default05:13
egonOO05:13
Jucatoit was never planned that KDE 4 will be on 7.10 by default05:13
egonway?05:13
egon:(05:13
Jucatoway05:13
SlimeyPetebut you will be able to install it05:13
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dwidmannegon: it might be available in 8.04, time will tell05:13
Jucatodwidmann: not by default again05:14
SlimeyPeteegon: 4.0 will only have been out a month at most so it will be very immature05:14
egon-.- i hate it05:14
SlimeyPetelots of bugs05:14
dwidmanndrat, I know it had been discussed to death :(05:14
Jucatoegon: BUT, the big BUTT is that there will be KDE 4.0 packages as soon as possible05:14
Jucatoegon: there's really no problem. you can just install it over 7.1005:14
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egonway dont they do 2 kubuntu 7.10 versions 1 with kde 3.5.7 and 1 with kde 4 rc1/2 xD05:15
Jucato(and 8.04 for that matter)05:15
Jucatoegon: because that is terribly inefficient05:15
dwidmannWhat's the current KDE 4.0 "release schedule" anyhow, last I read it was supposed to be sometime not too far in the future05:15
SlimeyPeteegon: I wouldn't worry too much. The initial release isn't likely to be much bett than KDE3 - a lot of the work has gone on "behind the scenes" and the advances won't show up till later on05:15
Jucatoand why would we release a Kubuntu with an RC desktop?05:15
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egonis it hard to install kde 4 bye adept?05:16
JucatoSlimeyPete: er... that's not entirely correct either05:16
Jucatoegon: right now? KDE 4 Beta? not that hard.05:16
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dwidmannJucato: egon, hmm, shouldn't be, I might try that after I finish my upgrade to gutsy (on my laptop)05:16
SlimeyPeteJucato: no? It's the impression I've got so far05:16
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dwidmannI got FAPd again :(05:16
egoni mean in the final of 7.1005:17
JucatoSlimeyPete: most of the advances will already be there in KDE 4.0, but 1) not all and 2) not in their "perfect" form05:17
egonso it is hard ( for a linux noob ) to install kde 4.0 on kubuntu 7.1005:17
Jucatoegon: we'll have to see how it pans out05:17
egonor not?05:18
SlimeyPeteJucato: mmm, but most of them are not user-visible, right?05:18
dr_Willisa noob dosent need to be messing with kde4.05:18
Jucatoegon: at this point in time, it's too early to determine how the transition will go for any distro05:18
SlimeyPetethat's what I meant05:18
dr_Willis:) theres not a lot to it05:18
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JucatoSlimeyPete: Oxygen is there (all of it), Plasma (most of it). Phonon and Solid will be visible in some ways05:18
egonhmmmm :(05:18
JucatoStrigit too05:18
JucatoStrigi*05:18
egoni want to have kde 4.0 :((((((((((((05:18
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Jucatoegon: word of advice, don't get too hyped on KDE 4.005:18
arashalsamixer has any respective program for Kubuntu, orshould i use it on Kubuntu too?05:19
egonbut someone told me that kubuntu 7.10 have 2 versions 1 with kde 3 and 1 with kde 405:19
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Jucatoegon: nothing definite yet. what's certain is that KDE 4.0 "packages" will be made available05:19
egonk05:19
Jucatowhether or not we release ISO's of 7.10 with KDE 4.0 by default... that depends on a lot of variables05:20
egonbut wath do you thing yes or no? :D05:20
Jucatowe're not even sure when 4.0 will *really* be released at this point05:20
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Jucatoegon: can you predict with exact binary truth what will happen to you tomorrow? :)05:20
dr_WillisDont evenknow whats in it.. but people want it. :)05:20
egonxD05:20
Jucatodr_Willis: one word: hype05:20
dr_WillisJucato,  'the next great hype' :)05:21
dr_WillisMarketing!05:21
tim__the desktop widget things look nice, a lot like ensemble DM or whatever it was called05:21
tim__or vista05:21
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egonyes but the beta 1 works good on live cd :D05:21
JucatoDM?05:21
Jucatoer... vista is the one that came late into the game :)05:21
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tim__desktop thing, it doesnt have icons, it has a sort of active desktop, a bit like igoogle on your desktop05:22
egonso thats a good05:22
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egonthing05:22
egonxD05:22
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tim__so what have people heard is in KDE4?05:22
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tim__DW: yeah your right, because of that, and lack of taskbar ensemble is a bit naff05:23
Jucatoit goes like this: you ignore your desktop or maxmize windows because your desktop is practically useless except as a dumping site...05:23
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Jucatotransform your desktop as something not just "beneath" all your other apps, and give it dyanmic usefulness, and you'll use it05:24
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tim__talking of cool but impractical, look at this: http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid=3693940921097010804&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=BumpTop&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DM0ODskdEPnQ&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D3693940921097010804%26q%3DBumpTop%26total%3D35%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H22Yly9ok22UYvMGj0z_jsJibU0JeA05:25
dr_WillisI perfer panel applets. :)05:25
dr_Willisi can see them05:25
tim__(3d desktop thing)05:25
dr_Willisive not seen many 3d desktopp things that make my productivity higher. :)05:25
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Jucatodon't confuse Plasma w/ those things :)05:26
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JucatoPlasma != 3D desktop05:26
dr_WillisIthink they need to work on namoing things. :)05:26
dr_WillisThey should name stuff after.. cheeses! :)05:26
Jucatothe theme for this release seems to be "elements" at least for the pillars05:27
dr_Willisis thers also a 'solid, liquid,gas' apps? :)05:27
JucatoSolid, Phonon, Oxygen, Plasma05:27
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tim__whats phonon? I mean in physics05:28
dr_WillisBah! id perfer cheese names! :)05:28
dr_Willissome partical i belive.05:28
Jucatoyeah that one05:28
Jucatophysics05:28
dr_Willisso their 'theme' is rather broad. :)05:28
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Jucatoyeah elements, physics, whatever05:29
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tim__well at least they dont all have a k in front this time.05:29
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JucatoI'm not a scientist05:29
dr_WillisThe them is 'geeky things' :)05:29
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owl.oO( geek, physics? )05:30
owl*scrollback*05:30
dr_WillisGreek :_05:30
Jucatopoor greeks :(05:30
dr_WillisYep. fires seem bad.05:30
Jucatoomg! I'm bad :(05:30
Jucatotoo much offtopic... sorry :(05:31
dr_Willistim__,  i sort of Perfered the K In front. :)05:31
owl.oO( guess i'm mentally demaged. that must be a side-effect of having a boyfriend who is physicist ^^ )05:31
ksivajihttp://pastebin.com/d2a705571       help me i am not getting second button05:31
dr_WillisI just wish gnome and kde would get together on naming the common apps similarty05:31
Jucatoboy...friend...?05:32
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Jucatoksivaji: er wrong place to ask05:32
owl*g* no, i'm not gay. but female :P05:32
Jucatohah ok!05:32
Jucatolol sorry about that05:32
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owlnp ;)05:32
Jucatoksivaji: #gtk or whatever05:32
cybrhumanHi, I copied my xorg.conf to another folder using konqueror and that caused some configuration to point to the newly created file for xorg.conf. I would like to change X to use the original file again. could someone tell me how?05:32
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ksivajiJucato ok05:32
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dr_Williscybrhuman,  that shouldent of changed anything to point to the new created file05:33
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xbehavei cant get a graphical login on my system, i get an error for a freefontpath05:33
dr_Willisunless you made a 'link' and not a copy05:33
Jucatoxbehave: feisty or gutsy?05:33
xbehavefesity05:33
dwidmannxbehave: an error about a font path, like one not existing? I get that all the time, I think it can be safely ignored05:33
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xbehavedwidmann, i get to see the error if i startx after login, because xorg crashes, and i think a similar thing happens when i login after kdm starts because it crashes me back to login05:34
dwidmann(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.05:34
dr_Willisdwidmann,  thats just a warning.05:35
dr_Willisyou dont have the russian fonts inzstalled.05:35
dwidmannexactly05:35
dr_Willis(WW) = warning.05:35
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xbehavethats a warning, im not sure what i have but it crashes xorg05:35
dr_Willisnot going to keep the system from booting.05:35
dr_Willistheres proberly somthing else crashing it.05:35
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dr_Willisstart from the begining.. what video card do you have.05:35
dwidmannxbehave: grep EE /var/log/xorg.0.log05:35
xbehavewell ive reconfigured and restored xorgs, i have an nvidia05:36
bogdomaniahello all!im new on using linux,so i dont know much..im trying to install yahoo messenger .deb package and i get in terminal that the dependencies are not satisfied and then libgdk-pixbuf2..what should i do?05:36
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dr_Willisxbehave,  what nvidia card.05:36
cybrhumandr_willis: when i then write in terminal "sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite" it says it is using the file I copied to my home directory.05:36
dwidmannwait, capitol X on Xorg05:36
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dr_Williscybrhuman,  Hmm...  i cant say that ive ever seen it do that that way. Tell the command which xorg.conf to use.  that tool is using that file.. not X. :)05:36
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dr_Williscybrhuman,  it may be defaulting to the one in the home diur because it exiusts.. and is 'safer' to test with.05:37
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cybrhumandr_willis, how do I tell the tool which file to use?05:37
xbehaveand i hade to restroe my filesystem on my root partition since then ive been unable to login, im running nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600]  (rev a1)05:38
dwidmannxbehave: , pastebin the results of "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and we may be more able to help :)05:38
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vbgunzanyone know whats up with K3Bs DVD ripper? it never proceeds to rip anything, it appears it stays stuck "resizing" but it is not frozen. I am trying to rip home movies. anyone know whats up?05:40
xbehavedwidmann, it only gives me (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom which is a useless device error05:40
dwidmannxbehave: that's odd05:40
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dwidmannxbehave: try this: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/backup.xorg.conf && startx05:41
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dwidmannin Feisty/Gutsy it should get you a minimally working X05:42
xbehaveill need to restart ill be back soon05:42
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t4m1n0hello there05:43
t4m1n0Where exactly do I have to put "profile" in my groob.list so indexing will remember my settings and boot time will be shorter?? I write it at the and of line "kernel/vlminuz..." but with upper case so it can be noted. Did I write profile on the correct places ???05:44
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t4m1n0http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35670/05:44
t4m1n0output of grub.list05:44
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ubunturoshow do I start compiz from the GUI05:47
ubunturos?05:47
dwidmannt4m1n0: the profile deal is a one-time thing, you boot with profile once, then you don't boot with profile in the list anymore05:47
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t4m1n0dwidmann, I know05:47
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TonserPersoni get an error when i try to boot the Kubuntu install CD with my mouse plugged in05:47
TonserPersonand it seems like i cant start the installer with my keyboard05:48
TonserPersoncan anyone help me?05:48
t4m1n0dwidmann, but every next time is faster05:48
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alex_hola05:48
ubunturoshow do I start Compiz via the GUI? If I'm already logged in GUI05:48
ubunturos?05:48
dwidmannt4m1n0: yes, so when booting, press e to edit the boot entry, go to the kernel line, press e again, add profile on the end, then press enter once, then b to boot05:48
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t4m1n0dwidmann, I just weite profile?05:49
t4m1n0at the end of line?05:49
dwidmannyeah05:49
t4m1n0weite= profile05:49
t4m1n0kul05:49
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alex_some chat for spanih?05:49
dwidmann!es05:49
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:49
ubunturos!compiz05:50
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:50
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ubunturoshow do I start compiz? when I try and replace Kwin's window manager, the title bars min, max buttons disappear06:00
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bennijoin xfce06:02
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Jucatobeer, coffee, grapejuice??06:05
JucatoO.o06:05
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Jucatooh well... brb06:05
soa2iiHi there... i need again your help my keyboards still weird06:06
soa2iido you remember Jucato ?06:06
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soa2iii just bootet from an install disk and typed in a console... it seems to be a kde problem...06:07
soa2iiwhen i type a char the same char appears sommetimes up to 10 times...06:08
soa2iisomeone an idea why?06:08
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turazoorpeeps06:10
t4m1n0would anyone know how can I check what RAM do I have. I know there is 512MBs of ram. But I don't know how fast it is how many HZs ??06:10
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zippert4m1n0, use memtest8606:11
turazoorcan anyone explain why after mounting my second hard drive to /media i now cannot access my media folders, it says "you do not have access rights"!!06:11
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zippert4m1n0, it's in the boot loader (probably GRUB)06:11
t4m1n0zipper, yes it's there06:11
t4m1n0zipper, is this the only chance? cause I have to reboot my comp..06:12
turazoort4m1n0: reboot your pc, when it comes up with Esc to enter menu, press Esc lol!, then hit Memtest06:12
turazoorah ok ^^^^^ lol06:12
zippert4m1n0, probably not, but its the easiest way of getting all the info you want (and then some)06:12
zipperthat said, i dont know how to check otherwise06:12
zipperso replace "easiest" with "easy"06:12
soa2iinoona an idea whats wrong with my keyboard?06:13
turazoorsoa2ii: your back!06:13
turazoorsoa2ii: still haven't got my wireless USB to work! it's an odd one lol !06:14
turazoorwots with ya keyboard?06:14
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turazoorsoa2ii: u there>06:19
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xbehavedr_Willis, its still the same, it found out i can login under root, it will start but theres no desktop (i assume thats just because root doesnt get a desktop tho)06:20
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soa2iiturazoor: sry06:21
soa2iiif i type on char sometime a lot of those chars appear...06:21
turazoorsoa2ii: hi ya dude06:21
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flakehsf modems are limited to 14.4??06:21
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soa2iii changed the keyboard.... it's a system error...06:21
turazoorsoa2ii: does it do it anywhere particular...?06:21
turazoorahh ok!06:22
soa2iihm... it seems to a kde error06:22
xbehavei cant login but can startx without logging in or as root06:22
soa2iibecause i just bootet a console and everything seemed to be alright06:22
turazoorsoa2ii: hmmm... surely you can reinstall Kde06:22
turazoorsoa2ii: dont suppose u know much about this Nickserv thing do you, ie how to reset ur password, cos it isn't recognising mine anymore lol!06:23
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soa2iihm...06:23
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soa2iiok i'll just save my files...06:24
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soa2iidamn it... the first really weird problem i got...06:24
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turazoorsoa2ii: lucky u, i got loads of em, and i've only been using for a day06:24
turazoorlol06:24
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turazoorsoa2ii:  the usb device, screen resolution, and mounting at the moment lol!06:26
soa2iirofl... ok if oure new some things are not like windows but no real problems...06:26
soa2iiyou can solve them without probs...06:27
soa2iibut this keyboard prob is really weird...06:27
soa2iiwell i'll get smth to eat... brb06:27
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turazoorsoa2ii: kk dude!06:28
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turazoorpeeps, can someone check whether this is ok lol!.... i pretty much just made it up lol!   "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media"06:29
turazoor.... i want to mount a second drive so that i can retrieve stuff off it!06:29
turazoorit used to be a windows drive06:29
geniiturazoor: You want a directory inside directory /media06:29
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xbehaveits better as mount /dev/hdb1 /media/win06:30
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turazoorgenii: lol, err how do i unmount it then06:30
xbehavebut youd need to sudo mkdir /media/win 1st06:30
turazoorahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh06:30
xbehaveumount /media06:30
turazoorthats what i tried to do first i.e. put it in a folder but it didnt work lol!06:30
turazoorso i assumed it wanted to make its own folder lol!06:31
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tim_awaywhat file system was the drive using?06:31
tim_awayNTFS or FAT06:31
xbehavenope mount cant make directories06:31
turazoori think it's NTFS06:31
Angelushave anyone here gave a try to kde4 beta?06:31
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tim_awayok, to get read write on a windows drive I think you need to install fuse NTFS (search fuse in adept)06:32
xbehave!ntfs06:32
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:32
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tim_awayI'll be back in a mo, and I'll pase in a line for your /etc/fstab06:32
Angelusfuese ntfs?06:32
Angelusdude06:32
hydrogen!fuse06:32
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems06:32
Angelususe ntfs-3g06:32
tim_awayyeah thats the one06:32
Angelus:/06:32
hydrogen!ntfs-3g06:32
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:32
xbehaventfs-3g is the easier way to go06:33
hydrogeneither works06:33
hydrogenerr06:33
hydrogenntfs-3g is a fuse fs06:33
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Angelusi dunno06:33
tim_awayturazoor: install ntfs-3g in adept06:33
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owlre06:33
Angelusntfs-3g always worked for meh06:33
tim_awayits what I meant either way06:33
turazoortim_away: i'll use aptitude if dat ok!06:33
turazoorlol06:34
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elite101hello06:35
turazoorok aptitude is now installing it06:35
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turazoorand its done!06:35
tim_awayok, now add a line to your fstab like:06:36
stephanhAn error occurred while loading http://www.nordic-t.org:06:36
stephanhTimeout on server06:36
stephanh Connection was to www.nordic-t.org at port 8006:36
stephanhanyone who can tell me the problem??:S06:36
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tim_away /dev/hdb1 /media/win ntfs-3g users 0 006:37
tim_awayturazoor: /dev/hdb1 /media/win ntfs-3g users 0 006:37
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tim_awayyou'll need to be root so sudo kate /etc/fstab06:37
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stephanhtim me?06:38
tim_awaythen paste that line in at the bottom, read it so it makes sense, and make sure /media/win exists06:38
tim_awayno soz06:38
tim_awayanother guy06:38
stephanhkk06:38
turazoorerr... ok hang on06:38
tim_awayturazoor: then go sudo mount /media/win06:38
tim_awayshould auto mount every boot06:38
flakeis there another provider of hsx modems besides Conexant, they want to charge for their drivers06:39
hydrogenerr06:39
tim_awaytuz: and now I'm going for a smoke06:39
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hydrogenand make sure that your windows partition is /dev/hdb106:39
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hydrogenoh06:39
hydrogennvm06:39
turazoorok quickly remind me how to open my fstab lol06:39
hydrogenI read up06:39
hydrogen:)06:39
hydrogensudo vi /etc/fstab06:39
turazoorty06:39
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hydrogenor kdesu kate /etc/fstab06:40
hydrogenif you want an editor that is a bit more intuitive06:40
hydrogenand graphical06:40
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tim_awaybah console people, user interfaces exist for a reason06:40
tim_awayor is this the wrong place to say that06:40
ScorpKingyes06:41
turazoorlol06:41
shinobieach to his own...terminal has it's place06:41
stephanhhaha:D06:41
turazoori'll use the interface06:41
hydrogenthe console is a user interface :)06:41
hydrogenand vi is much quicker than kate once you figure out how to use it06:41
shinobiand you gotta love vi06:41
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ScorpKingtrue06:41
Jucatovi..06:42
Jucatom06:42
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turazoorok my fstab wont save06:44
turazoorapparently kate can write to the file06:44
Jucatoyou need to edit it as root.06:45
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tim_awayyou need to be root, sudo06:45
Jucatokdesu kate /etc/fstab06:45
Jucato!kdesu06:45
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:45
tim_awaywell I never knew that06:46
Goophey all, I was wondering; is there any advantage of using Kubuntu over the regular Ubuntu?06:46
turazoorah ha06:46
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turazoorcool06:46
tim_awayI'v always used xfce tll recently06:46
Jucatoas they said in G.I. Joe, "Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!"06:46
tim_awaygoop: its got kde, if you like kde06:46
Jucatowell on GNOME and Xfce, it would be gksu or gksudo06:46
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JucatoGoop: Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE. Both have the same underlying (non-graphical) systems, but above that everything else is different06:58
Jucatoexcept for OpenOffice.org06:58
Gooptim_away, I've never used it before06:58
GoopThe regular Ubuntu won't boot properly from the livecd on one pc06:58
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timtry xubuntu?06:58
timits lighter06:58
GoopI have a feeling it may be my cd drive06:58
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Goopin windows it often gives "cyclic redunancy errors"06:58
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Goopalthouhg at the moment i don't have access to a drive cleaner cd06:58
timdrive transplant?06:58
Goopno other drive that I can use, and to be honest I don't plan to install it06:58
Goopmy family is paranoid that I will screw up the PC06:58
timer... flashdrive boot? if anyone know how to do that06:58
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turazoortim: nice one buddy, it's up and running...06:58
mluseris there a kubuntu Gutsy specific irc channel?06:58
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turazoortim: u might be able to help with an on-going "wierd" problem of mine, if ur not too busy06:58
geniimluser: #kubuntu #ubuntu+1 for gutsy and best for gutsty kubuntu is #kubuntu-devel06:58
mlusergenii: thanks06:58
geniimluser: np06:58
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timtuz: possibly, I'm not that good though06:58
Goopgenii, I think it's a philips drive, although it's probably just got a bit of dust on the lens06:58
DjDarkmanhy how can I set up a samba share to work like a windows one? currently it keeps bugging me for password...06:58
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timdarkman: you need to change it from the samba conf file06:58
timyou got access to that PC?06:58
DjDarkmanit`s my pc06:58
DjDarkmanno frontend for this?06:58
geniiGoop: When it's a decent drive and the cyclic redundancy error crops up a lot of the time the motor inside is slowing down (or pulley belt stretched out, causing slowdown)06:58
timok, I'll log onto my pc and have a look at the file06:58
timyeah there is, probably, but its just a small change06:58
DjDarkmanthat would be nice06:58
DjDarkmanI  want to set this up for my home network06:58
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timI have similar setup. its possible06:58
Elite101what is the command to show connected PCI cards?06:58
Goopgenii: the drive is supposed to be a cd-rw drive and can read DVDs, but it gives that error when reading DVDs and writing cds06:58
Elite101is it Ispci?06:58
geniilspci06:58
Elite101okay06:58
turazoortim: kk i'll explain and see!... basically, i've narrowed the problem down to my USB Bus i think! when i plugged my wireless network adaptor into the pc when i tried the live cd version, it worked!... so i installed.... and now it lags the system.. but the the only difference is that the usb device is on a different bus06:58
Goopgenii: sometimes even reading cds06:58
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turazoorElite101: i think is lspci06:58
geniiGoop: Likely the motor is dying06:58
turazoor...but i am a newbie lol06:58
timok, open the file /etc/samba/smb.conf in a root editer (kdesu kate?)06:58
tim(darkman)06:58
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geniibah work. AFK06:58
timunder "authentication" set "security" to share06:58
timmake sure its uncommented06:58
dev__how to use ssh with particular port no ?06:58
Ravensalut tous le monde06:58
geniitim: Make sure he does testparm06:58
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(Goop/#kubuntu) Raven: salut06:59
(tim/#kubuntu) darkman: let us know if it works when thats done07:00
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(tim/#kubuntu) er, smb should refresh its settings about once a minute07:00
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(ScorpKing/#kubuntu) using samba with security = user is also easy with a bit more security.07:00
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timno he specificaly wants no password07:01
ScorpKingok07:01
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stephanhanyone who can help me install beryl?07:02
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timturazoor: if your still there, USB is a bit funny, on your motherboard are devices called USB controllers. bandwidth is per USB controller. If the port you have it plugged in on is owned by the same controller as say the one handling your external hard drive or mayb mouse it can mean trouble07:03
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turazooryour kidding lol!07:03
geniiback07:03
Goopso does KDE use different config tools than GNOME?07:03
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geniitim: testparm dblchecks your smb.conf and makes sure syntax is OK and no glarin errors07:04
Goopand can I use GNOME applications in Kubuntu?07:04
venik212my keyboard died in the weirdest way: it works fine for the password, but once Kubuntu comes up, the keyboard is dead07:04
turazoori have 8 USB ports, are they all going to do the same or is there going to be 1/2 that it may not bug on then?07:04
coreymon77Goop: gnome applications are still linux applications07:04
timin kinfocenter (kdesu kinfocenter) you can browse through and see if your wireless device is connected to the same controller as something else07:04
coreymon77Goop: you can use gnome apps on kde andkde apps on gnome07:04
turazoorok.... that requires plugging it in lol! and handling the ludicrous lag lol! GRRRR!07:05
Goopcoreymon77: ok, thanks07:05
timin kinfocenter, go to usb. if its under the same host controller, could be a problem07:05
timmaybe not though07:05
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geniigoop: If you have a low end computer you may want to stick with just all kde or all gnome. Loading the extra libraries and so on from one while using the other can strain old computers07:05
venik212can anyone help me fix the keyboard?  I did not edit the xorg.conf or anything else07:06
turazoorif something else USB works in the same port that the Belkin doesnt does that rule that out?07:06
timif in doubt try using its windows drivers under ndiswrapper07:06
Goopgenii: well this computer isn't old, but does 256MB of RAM count as old?07:06
Chousukeyes.07:06
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coreymon77whose having the wifi problems?07:07
geniiGoop: If the cpu is better than a Pentium 2 class with that much ram you should be OK07:07
turazoorndiswrapper doesn't support it, as it works plug 'n' play thru ubuntu i think07:07
GoopI want to get any *ubuntu working on that "old" pc properly, because this PC has graphics card issues07:07
geniigoop: If you had under 192 it might be a prob07:07
Goopany 3D app gives corruption in windows or linux...07:07
DjDarkmantim: why do I get the permission denied error?07:07
Goopgenii: I think it's a pentium 3 or 407:08
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Goopgenii: it was originally windows NT I think07:08
timno its about data bandwidth. USB dong wireless devices are mostly softmac, that is the computer handles most of the stuff usualy handled by chips on the acutal dongle. therefore it needs to poll the dongle frequently. a mouse makes a suprisingly huge amount of traffic across the bus, which on USB1 only supports 30 MBS07:08
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timyou can still use ndiswrapper if you suppress the default driver07:09
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timdarkman: you mean when saving the file?07:09
timDJdarkman: you mean when saving the file?07:09
timyou need to be root, in the console: sudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf07:09
DjDarkmanno the samba deamon has problems but I think I know what`s the problem07:10
geniiGoop: You should be OK to run both kinds of apps then, KDE and Gnome ones from the same window manager.07:10
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coreymon77turazoor: whats the matter?07:11
Goopgenii: I heard about fluxbox, apparently it is faster for machines with older graphics cards07:11
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Goopbut there are no desktop effects for that07:11
Angelushow come Adept is only giving me the source of spca5xxx webcam driver? if im not wrong there was a package that installs the driver?07:11
timhis dongle causes lag and he things its the USB bus07:11
Goopand I want eyecandy :D07:11
stephanhis there any msn looking program for linux?? and wahts its name?07:12
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timmsn: kopete, and its installed by default07:13
Angelusstephanh:07:13
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Goopstephanh: GAIM can be used for MSN07:13
Angelusamsn :) stephanh its the nicest and best one :)07:13
coreymon77stephanh: i use mercury07:13
Angelusstephanh: http://amsn-project.net :)07:13
Goopstephanh: I don't think it supports Windows Live  Messenger features like scripts07:13
coreymon77stephanh: mercury.to07:13
coreymon77stephanh: mercury is on apt07:13
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Angelusstephanh:  amsn looks the most like MSN so yeah, if you want something like windows live messenger download aMSN from amsn-project.net07:14
coreymon77stephanh: youre not gonna get something that supports all of the windows live messenger features though07:14
geniiGoop: Yes, fluxbox and xfce are good for older equipment and take up less overhead to run.07:14
stephanhokay thanks guys!:) do any of you know how to install beryl cant get it work...07:14
turazoorcoreymon77: hi, errr... there's something causing kubuntu to slow up to an almost stand still when i plug my belkin wireless network adaptor in! it worked fine whilst in live cd versio07:14
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coreymon77stephanh: driver problems?07:14
stephanhno idea:S07:14
coreymon77stephanh: sorry, wrong person07:14
stephanhim all new to linux!!!:P (first day)07:14
stephanh^ok07:14
coreymon77turazoor: driver problems?07:14
timturazoor: I really suggest you suppress the default driver and use ndiswrapper07:15
timwhat chipset07:15
turazoorra something.... hang on07:15
timis it a belkin FD705007:15
turazoorcoreymon77: ndiswrapper dont support it07:15
coreymon77stephanh: one thing about the msn client, this is linux not windows, you are not going to get something exactly like wlm07:15
turazoortim: yeah, version 3001uk07:16
coreymon77stephanh: or something that supports all of the features07:16
timI think I'm using V3, and I'm on NDIS07:16
coreymon77stephanh: so dont expect it to be exactly like the microsoft version07:16
coreymon77turazoor: can you find out the chipset?07:16
turazoorcoreymon77: yeah hang on a second07:17
timturazoor: can you write the FCC ID number off the back07:17
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venik212I just tested my keyboard on the same hardware, booting in XP-- works fine, but it is dead in Kubuntu07:17
coreymon77tim: let him find the chipset first07:17
timwell the FCCID will tell us which version it is, and we can find the chipset from there07:17
turazoortim: it's K7S-f5D7050b07:17
Angeluscan someone tell me the driver name pls for Logitech webcam?07:18
coreymon77turazoor: chip?07:18
turazoorcoreymon77: yep now looking it up07:18
timyeah under that there is a line reading "fcc ID"07:18
Goopvenik212: what type of keyboard is it? USB or PS2?07:18
timwhat does that say07:18
venik212I tried both07:18
venik212same death07:18
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venik212It is a software problem, since it works fine for the password07:19
timis it "K7SF5D7050B"07:19
lunitikIn Gutsy, what does the 'enterprise' tag on some packages entail? I thought Ubuntu doesn't make any differentiation between home and enterprise packages?07:19
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turazoorcoreymon77: it's the rt73 chip07:20
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coreymon77lunitik: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+107:20
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timturazoor, yes thats V307:20
lunitikcoreymon77: It's not a support question.07:20
turazoortim: yeah ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^07:20
timturazoor: I'm using ndiswrapper for that without complant07:20
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turazoorok then07:21
timbut you might have a problem getting it to un autodetect07:21
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timanyone know how to supress a driver?07:21
turazoorcoreymon77 does i beleive07:21
tim*finaly going for that smoke before the girlfriend gets back, disapearing07:21
turazoorkk dude07:21
turazoorsorry07:21
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anthronautHi everyone. All of my windows, task bar and so on just disappeared, the desktop's showing only my wallpaper. The processes are still running in the background. Does anyone know how I can get back the programs to the desktop to save my data?07:22
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venik212When I hit any key, I hear a faint beep, but no other response from Kubuntu07:23
turazoorcoreymon77: would u be able to talk me through supressing the driver?07:23
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rustalotwhen will KDE4 go into beta?07:24
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venik212since hte kb is dead, I cannot even do anything with the terminal07:24
xbehavei cant login but can startx without logging in or as root07:24
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GuyFromHellCan someone point me in the right direction for the config file i'd want to change to get my wireless to connect to a specific essid and then run vpnc?07:25
turazoorcoreymon77: u there?07:26
timwfconfig wlan0 essid ESSID07:26
timoh like as in a script?07:26
GuyFromHellyea07:26
GuyFromHellas in07:26
GuyFromHellat startup07:26
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GuyFromHelli know how to do it by hand07:26
turazoortim: thought u were going for smoke lol07:26
timer put in in your bash profile07:26
timI did, I'm just quick07:26
turazoorlol07:26
GuyFromHelltim: user or system?07:27
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Goopvenik212: I'm searching for a solution for ya :)07:27
venik212thanks07:27
venik212I am dead in the water07:27
turazooranyone know how to suppress a driver?07:27
timuser, I'd assume07:27
timthats what will come on when you log in07:27
llutzturazoor: prevent loading? blacklist it07:28
GuyFromHelltim: k i'll give it a shot07:28
turazoorllutz: ok then how do i do that?07:28
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timbest of all you can test it by logging in and out rather than a full reboot07:29
llutzturazoor: add it to /etc/modprobe/blacklist or create a new blacklist-file there07:29
timoh but hang on, it will do it every time you open a terminal07:29
timso dont do that07:29
Goopvenik212: meanshile you keep searching, there's probably an on-screen keyboard somewhere07:29
Goop*meanwhile07:29
timput it in an RC script instead07:29
timspecificaly (I think) rc.507:29
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turazoorllutz: i'm a newbie, soz but the blacklist is empty so what am i writing and how do i find out what driver itis i need to suppress it's for a USB wireless network adaptor07:30
venik212using an on screen kb is too slow for work....07:31
venik212I booted the same machine in XP and everything works fine07:32
llutzturazoor: it's /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist  sry07:32
dwidmannturazoor: put in "blacklist somedriver" (where somedriver is the driver you want to  blacklist)07:32
llutzturazoor: you should know the name of the unwanted driver, just add a line "blacklist <module>"07:33
timclear07:33
timI meant /clear07:33
venik212this happened while I was editing a simple text file07:33
llutzvenik212: use XP then07:34
turazoorlol07:34
venik212very funny07:34
turazoor^^07:34
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venik212also, very helpful07:34
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llutzvenik212: no joke: if something works with <OS of you choice>, use it07:34
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geniillutz: Exactly07:35
venik212you mean, it is OK for Ubuntu to kill the keyboard, and the solution is to switch back to XP?07:35
turazoorllutz: errr.... sorry but i am a dipshit when it comes to linux, tis my first day lol! so where would i find the name for the driver in question...07:35
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dwidmann:\ this sftp file transfer is *still* going ... man is this slow07:36
llutzturazoor: why do you think you have to blacklist a special module, if you even don't know its name?07:36
geniiturazoor: How did you come to the conclusion there is a driver you need to blacklist?07:36
turazoorlol07:36
turazoorcos i was told to blacklist the driver for my wireless usb adaptor because as soon as i plug it in, it slows up the system so someone suggested blacklisting it and trying ndiswrapper07:37
llutzturazoor: then ask the one who told you for the module name07:37
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turazoornobody told me the module name lol!07:37
llutzturazoor: of compare the output of "lsmod" before and after you plugin your stick07:38
turazoorllutz: cheers07:38
geniibetter yet plug it in, then unplug it. then look at dmesg07:38
llutzof=or07:38
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gekcohi07:40
gekcowhy07:40
gekcowhy when I put the movie in fullscreen still a little square ?07:41
venik212OK-- I found the problem.  SOMEHOW, Kubuntu chose to activate SLOW KEYS, something that is hidden in the ACCESSIBILITY tab in system setting07:41
Goopvenik212: I'd dual-boot XP and Ubuntu, that way you have an alternative if one of them crashes07:41
venik212I unchecked the box, and all is well07:41
gekcoI want the movie to fill the entire screen07:41
venik212I really do not need to be told to move to XP when I have a problem in Ubuntu-- it is the opposite of helpful07:42
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Goopvenik212:  good for you :D07:42
venik212I dual boot07:42
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Goopvenik212:  I wasn't telling yo to switch, sorry, just some general advice07:42
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timturazoor: the driver is called R2*00 or something, at least in the package repository07:43
stephanhhmm can anyone tell me why my azures program is closing as soon as i opens it?:S07:44
tim*rt2x0007:45
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turazoori have got rt2570, rt2x00lib, rt73USB, rt25USB07:46
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timrt2x00lib I think07:46
turazoorok i'm gonna do the same in live cd version be back in bit peeps!07:46
timbut you can literaly blacklist all of them07:46
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turazoor#07:47
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tokiI've updated kde to gutsy and my kcontrol is empty. Please help me fix this?07:50
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timcan anyone got a fstab line for mounting an anonymous samba network share?07:52
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Allooshguys, I see that my modem is blicking so it means that there is someone who is downloading or uploading something to my compu, where can I find out what is going on?07:52
timnetstat07:52
timnetstat -a07:52
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xbehavex starts but wont let me login, what should i do?07:53
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Dr_willis_ can you login at the console?07:54
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xbehaveDr_willis_,  yes but then it wont start07:54
Dr_willis_'it wont start' ? huh?07:54
jessenhey, I just installed kubuntu after trying many, many distros for my thinkpad t60, and man, what a difference!! I'm really glad I decided to try it out07:54
Dr_willis_Its possible your caps lock/keyboard/keymap is wrong for X. messing things up.07:55
xbehavestartx crashes if i run it when loged in07:55
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Dr_willis_you can try killing the kdm service. then using 'startx' as a user.07:55
jessenjust thought i'd pop in and express my gratitude to all the devs07:55
xbehaveDr_willis_, no it logs me in thencrashes and takes me back to the login screen07:55
Dr_willis_and the crash/error messages are?07:55
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xbehavewell the only 1 i see is to do with freefontpath and everybody says it cant be causeing the error07:56
Dr_willis_xbehave,  back to the login screen? you dident try it with KDM NOT running then. Or are you refering to the Console Login: prompt?07:56
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Dr_willis_Somthing seems very odd. here. I think ya need to sumamrize the problem.07:57
xbehavei shut down kdm (by choosing console login) then loged in and it loged me in to tty6 fine07:57
turazoorright.... i logged into live version and it doesn't load one of the modules that this version does, so where was that blacklist again lol07:57
Dr_willis_KDM starts - but you cant login,  'startx' from a console = crashes?07:57
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Dr_willis_as a test. make a new user, see if they can login into X from KDM.07:57
xbehaveyes, and sudo startx from console = it starts but i cant do anything usefull07:57
xbehavehow do i make a new user from console?07:58
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Dr_willis_make a .xinitrc file in the root users home dir /root with the line 'startkde' :)07:58
Dr_willis_adduser bgates07:58
Dr_willis_will add a user.07:58
dwidmannhmm, that's interesting ... the slowness of these sftp file transfers seems to be linked to a problem in the kio slave ...07:58
Dr_willis_startx reads the .xinitrc file normalluy07:58
Dr_willis_well work time for me. byeeeeeeeeee.07:58
turazoorcan someone tell me where the blacklist has disappeared off too, i cant find it lol!07:59
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tim:( I clearscreened07:59
turazoortim: lol07:59
timsomeone copy paste the blacklist file path from a few minutes ago?07:59
turazoortim: y can u lol08:00
turazooroh yeah u cleared08:00
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geniiI think /etc/modprobe.d08:00
turazoori think there was a bit on the end genii08:00
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marciomrahow do you do?08:00
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timso go "ls /etc/modprobe.d" to get a list08:01
geniiturazoor: /etc/modprobe.d is the directory you want. In there make the file blacklist08:01
marciomrawht hi counter amsn mi?08:01
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turazoordo i need to logoff to activate the new blacklist??08:02
timcan anyone got a fstab line for mounting an anonymous samba network share?08:03
dwidmannturazoor: should probably reboot, or at least modprobe -r the module08:03
turazoormodule not found, i'm guessing that mean its blacklisted08:03
timfstab: just a copy paste, known working08:04
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meekusis there a way to log out in KDE via a konsole command?08:11
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tsdgeosvia dcop yes08:11
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tsdgeosnot sure of the actual command line you need though08:12
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meekuskk.  at least that points me in the right direction :) ty kindly08:12
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meekusexcellent - think I found it: dcop kdesktop default logout08:13
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flakeI need to talk to a vi user08:13
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tinin Hi, could someone explain me what should I do to know if my soundcard supports midis?08:13
ptfd9100vmplayer problems, anyone help?08:14
flakei think i have an extra LF or CR on the end of a line, how do I fix it using vi ?   I know J will join the lines..08:14
NickPresta!midi | tinin08:14
ubotutinin: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo08:14
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tininBut is timidity always needed to play midi?08:15
owlhmmm. how to integrate a kdm-theme?08:15
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tinineven windows and my chap cellphone supports midi out of the box08:16
tinin*cheap08:16
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Turazoorok, why isn't this blacklisting i've placed RT25usb into the blacklist but it's still loading08:17
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Turazooris /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, just for Modules? and is RT25usb different from a module as it appears to be a driver, if it is does anyone know how to disable it08:21
dwidmannTurazoor: that's interesting, keep in mind also that it is *case sensitive*08:21
Turazooryep! fort that the first time it didn't blacklist lol08:22
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Turazoordwidmann: so how can i go about removing it?08:29
dwidmannTurazoor: well, "sudo modprobe -r modulename", make sure that the case is correct (ie: it's case sensitive), same goes for in the blacklist file (case sensitive)08:29
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geniieverything in *nix is case sensitive08:29
dwidmannpretty much yeah08:29
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Turazoordwidmann: it's says it cant be found!08:29
Turazoorbut i know it's correct because i have seen it in dmesg08:29
dwidmann:s08:29
dwidmannturazoor, check it in lsmod?08:29
geniiTurazoor: Also make sure you put a newline after the last entry you have there. in other words, go to the end of the last word of the last line and then hit enter once or twice to put some empty lines under that one.08:29
emilsedghis there any plan to replace OO.o with Koffice2 after its release?08:29
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Turazoordwidmann: it's not appearing in lsmod but it isn't loaded at the moment because its casuing problems it loads as soon as i plug the device in08:29
chris_hi all. Just installed fiesty and have got really quiet and distorred sound - anyone had this?08:29
NickPresta!sound08:29
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:29
chris_thanks, i'll check those out08:29
Turazoordwidmann: and i have put a newline lol!08:30
meekusWhere can I change my network card speed down to 10mbs half duplex?08:30
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Turazoormeekus: eiwwww.... 10mbps y wud u wanna do that?08:31
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meekusfor testing :)08:32
Turazoormeekus: kk08:32
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Turazoormeekus: lol.... good for u08:32
dwidmannTurazoor: plug it in, then lsmod, copy _ paste me the relevant line, also copy + paste the relevant line from your blacklist file.08:32
meekusI am getting weird networking issues, and think it may be network speed.  (I am grasping at straws lol)08:32
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Turazoordwidmann: will take me awhile cos its slow when i plug in08:33
Turazoordwidmann: blacklist line = blacklist RT25usb08:33
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Turazoordwidmann: ok, the other three modules that i want installed are there but no RT25usb in lsmod08:36
NickPrestameekus, you can use `ethtool` or `mii-tool` to change duplex settings and such. Don't forget to restart the network after08:37
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meekusNickPresta: ahh kk.  ty kindly :)08:37
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Turazoor?08:39
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geniimeekus: Or you can do:  sudo ifconfig eth0 down speed 10       then just sudo ifconfig eth0 up08:42
geniimeekus: speeds: 10=10Mb/half 20=10Mb/full 100=100Mb/half 200=200Mb/full08:43
Turazoordwidmann: heres it in dmesg  1178.601942]  RT25usb  Driver version 1.0.008:43
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geniimeekus: 200=100Mb/full   rather :)08:44
Turazooranywhere on the internet that i can check what files in kubuntu are?08:44
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turazoordoes anyone know anything about RT25usb, and how i might go about blocking it?08:52
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pacoxorg restarts everytime i login, and i get an error to do with xauth locking ~/.xauthority when i startx while already loged in08:54
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SubNetGuten Abend!08:54
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jake_Hello08:56
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titanix88hi08:56
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SubNetHab ein Problem mit Kaffeine: Der Player zeigt nur vllig verschobene Videos an ...08:56
titanix88english plz.08:56
jake_Does anyone know if there is a Graphic User Interfaced MUSH or MUD client for Kubuntu?08:56
SubNetDas sieht aus, als wrde er jede Pixel-Zeile verschieben08:56
jake_And if not, I need help installing TinyFugue08:57
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titanix88what's the prob?08:57
llutz!de |  SubNet08:57
ubotuSubNet: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:57
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WhtWolfTeraDynellutz: Thanks. I had forgotten weither it was "de" or "ge" for some reason...08:58
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WhtWolfTeraDyneStarted to type ge...08:58
jake_I've unpacked the file, compiled and installed, but for some reason, I am still unable to use the tf command from it's location08:58
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titanix88any error?08:59
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jake_Say's it doesn't recognize the command08:59
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titanix88jake_: a paste plz.09:00
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WhtWolfTeraDynejake_: "gnome-mud" and "gmoo" are the only graphical MUD clients that show up for me in apt-search09:00
jake_bash: tf: command not found09:00
titanix88jake_: maybe ./tf09:01
titanix88or do what WhtWolfTeraDyne says.09:01
jake_Alright, I'll try that. I'm a little new to Linux, but I thought a gnome app wouldn't run on a KDE desktop?09:02
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WhtWolfTeraDynejake_: Any linux app will run on any desktop, as long as the needed libraries are installed.09:02
jake_or am I getting desktops and kernals mixed up again or something?09:02
Arwena GNOME app will not run on a normal KDE desktop09:03
Arwenbut if you install enough parts of GNOME, it will work09:03
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titanix88jake_: i am having a edubuntu+kubuntu mixup.running amarok firefox konsole simutaneously!!09:03
jake_ah. So, where did you find gnome-mud then? on Adept?09:03
dwidmanninstalling that program will drag all its gnome dependencies along with it, so nothing to worry about arwen, jake_09:03
dwidmannjake_: sure09:04
WhtWolfTeraDynejake_: Using a Konsole window, I used "apt-search". It should be in Adept, though.09:04
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jake_I can't find it in adept. I'll try konsole.09:04
jake_thanks for your help everyone :)09:05
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WhtWolfTeraDyne!info gnome-mud09:05
ubotugnome-mud: The GNOME MUD client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.7-1build2 (feisty), package size 363 kB, installed size 1272 kB09:05
titanix88jake_: we don't accept prepaid thnx ;)09:05
WhtWolfTeraDynejake_: You need the Universe repositories enabled to get it.09:06
WhtWolfTeraDyne!repos | jake_09:06
ubotujake_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:06
jake_Suddenly I remember what I did wrong. I've yet to enable the other ones.09:06
jake_I've just got the default set up. I've used Kubuntu before but I;m rusty :p09:07
WhtWolfTeraDyneO_o; Konsole just exploded on me. No traceback or anything...09:07
titanix88jake_: sudo apt-get update ???09:07
jake_Hmm?09:08
Remo_Asudo sudoku09:09
Remo_Aman -o man09:09
jake_Hmm... I've activated all of the repertoirs, is this wise?09:10
titanix88just make sure ur packages list is updated(incase of live cds)09:10
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titanix88wise as me :)09:10
tinin!midi09:11
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo09:11
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dwidmannRemo_A: man -k woman09:11
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owl^^09:11
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Remo_Aget string from object09:12
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owlmight Remo_A wanna strip a bit? ^^09:12
Remo_Ahehe09:12
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jake_Hmm. I appear to be upgrading Kubuntu itself, so I'll be logging out so I can restart in a moment. I installed from a rather old CD.09:13
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jake_Heh, it's going to take over an hour to download anyway.09:14
jcolvinHey you guys09:14
titanix88jake_: 0_O09:14
jcolvinIm a newbie and am having problems installing apps09:14
dwidmannjcolvin: do tell09:14
owl*sigh* apt-get install empty-trash-can coffee09:15
owlapt-get clean09:15
owli want this for my room09:15
Angeluscan someone help me with the folowwing error please??? http://rafb.net/p/eAh4Ao56.html :|09:15
Angelusi really need to install this driver for my webcam09:15
jcolvinim new to linux and dont even know where to start09:15
dwidmannjake_: how old is rather old, because in that case it may be more efficient to download and burn an iso image.09:15
jcolvinwith installing apps09:15
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dwidmannjcolvin, first place to start should be k-menu -> add/remove programs :)09:16
titanix88jcolvin : hi09:16
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jcolvinok09:16
jake_About a month or so. But I don't think it'll be any quicker to download and burn a fresh iso09:16
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jcolvinthe downloaded file looks like this...09:16
jcolvinsav-linux-6-i386.tgz09:16
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dwidmannjcolvin, not to scare you away or anything, but it looks like you'll have to compile that yourself09:17
jcolvinoh really09:17
titanix88jcolvin : try default repository.it's not like windows where u dload a .exe and install it.09:17
dwidmanntitanix88: it's not in the repos, I just checked.09:18
jcolvinany documentation that would help me so you dont have to explain it all to me09:18
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dwidmannerm, that would be handy, let me check around for that09:18
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dwidmannthis will be a good start09:18
dwidmann!compile09:19
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:19
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jake_Hehe, because I have a nice fast internet connection, it's only going to take another 20 minutes09:20
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Angelus!webcam09:21
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:21
dwidmannjake_: typically a dist-upgrade is about 500mb, you said you think you're upgrading, to which version of kubuntu?09:21
jake_7.0409:22
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dwidmannjake_: if you're upgrading from something older than edgy, then I wish you luck, they advise against going straight from dapper or edgy (or older versions) to feisty09:24
jake_This is definitely feisty09:25
jake_I think I'm just upgrading from an older version of feisty09:25
dwidmannjake_: just grabbing the small backports and updates that have popped up since it came out then ... I see.09:26
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dwidmannI still have a 122mb download to go on my laptops upgrade to gutsy :(09:26
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d0uglaswould someone kindly recommend an imap server for a machine that will be heavy on "public" folders rather than just inboxes? ... ideally something that isn't too tricky to configure09:27
geniiThere should be something like DownThemAll for the apt downloads....09:27
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dwidmanngenii: closest you'll come is to put 5 mirrors in your sources.list ..... hehehe09:29
geniidwidmann: I'm getting the glimmering of an idea now though :)09:29
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dwidmanngenii: ooh, do tell.09:31
geniidwidmann: A replacement for whatever apt-get is using to d/l off the mirrors, one that can split the d/l into 5 parts like DTA does for instance09:32
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geniilikely wget or get09:32
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dwidmanngenii: something like axel maybe?09:33
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geniihmm09:33
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geniiOr maybe to cal wget with -c option 5 times etc. but then how to splice...09:34
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dwidmannI noticed something interesting about apt when I installed debian etch a while back ... instead of redownloading the Packages file from the server everytime it uses patches instead. I wonder how long til we get to see this in ubuntu ....09:36
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jake_Is it safe to download packages on adept while the distribution package is also running?09:36
jake_distribution upgrade*09:36
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geniijake_: no09:37
dwidmannjake_: it's okay, because it won't let you do anything dangerous09:37
geniidwidmann: Yes, diffs make much more sense09:37
dwidmannthe apt lock file will stop you.09:37
jake_Gotcha. Only 5 minutes left on the upgrade anyway. I'm gonna log out, restart and all that fun stuff. Be back in a few.09:38
dwidmannhope he didn't try to restart while it was still mid-upgrade, oh well.09:38
enrygoodbye09:39
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lnx_what are the best graphical icq clients ( gnome and kde and xfce if there are ) ?09:40
dwidmanninx_: kopete works well enough for me, gaim/pidgin should work also09:40
hak5fanI've just installed compiz fusion How can I get it to start when I log in?09:40
Mr_Sonomalnx_, i use kopete for all my IM stuff09:40
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lnx_Mr_Sonoma , its almost perfect just i doesnt allow me to copy user away message09:41
Mr_Sonomahak5fan, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-effects09:41
lnx_hak5fan , click ALT + F2 and type there "compiz --replace"09:42
hak5fanMr_Sonoma: Thanks09:42
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geniiAFK experimenting09:42
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Mr_Sonomalnx_, it dont let you copy away messages?09:43
hak5fanlnx_: I've started it like that but I want it to auto start when I log on09:43
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lnx_Mr_Sonoma , you know what i mean i away message ?09:44
flaviahi, what do I need to rip mp3s from an audio cd with k3b?09:44
rjune_k3b doesn't rip mp3s09:44
Mr_Sonomahak5fan, there was a wiki i used to have for beryl to add it to your session types when your logging on. but i dont have that bookmarked anymore. like i said #ubuntu-effects should be able to help09:45
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rjune_there's an IO Slave you can use to do it, audiocd:// or some such If I remember right09:45
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geniiBah. Forgot i had a 200Gb hd nfs mounted and did updatedb09:45
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rjune_ouch09:46
Mr_Sonomalnx_, you mean you cant save your away reason/message?? or when you recieve a message while you are away?09:46
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flaviarjune_: I found that it's possible, I suppose I just need some additional library09:47
lnx_Mr_Sonoma , no for example some one of my friends have09:47
lnx_"i will back in 30 mins" , and i want to copy it i cant09:48
flaviarjune: ok found it, tnx anyway09:48
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CPrgmSwR2How do I create a trashcan on my desktop in kubuntu?09:50
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dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: mspaint? j/k ... anyhow, right click the desktop, create a link to a location, for the location use trash:/ and for the name call it Trash09:52
MetaMorfoziSCPrgmSwR2 > create a simple textfile09:52
MetaMorfoziSan fill it with: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35702/09:52
MetaMorfoziSand name it for.ex trash.desktop09:52
MetaMorfoziSdwidmann > that's not enough09:52
MetaMorfoziSthat isn't indicates the stat of the trash (empty or not)09:52
MetaMorfoziSbut this does.09:52
Mr_Sonomalnx_, theres the set status message icon looks like a pencil and piece of paper, you can do it there. seems like there's a way to save them too but im not finding it right now.09:53
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Mr_Sonomalnx_, but it will use your last away message next time you set your status to away09:53
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CPrgmSwR2MetaMorfoziS: where did you get that information?09:53
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MinnozzI was trying to compile the drivers for my wireless network adapter (RTL8187) and I got this error: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=93109:53
MetaMorfoziSfrom my desktop:)09:53
Minnozzwhat do I have to do?09:54
MetaMorfoziSBut first somewhere from google:)09:54
CPrgmSwR2ah okay09:54
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lnx_Mr_Sonoma , im not talking about my status message , see my friend have URL in his status message and i want to copy it to the browser do you under stand what i want todo ?09:54
turazooranyone know a good driver download site, so i can download win drivers for ndiswrapper, cos the girlfriend lost the cd09:54
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CPrgmSwR2MetaMorfoziS: Thnx09:55
MetaMorfoziSnp09:55
turazoorlnx_: y dont u just write it out, its not usually possible09:55
soa2iiturazoor: still not runningn??09:55
soa2iirunning09:55
turazoorsoa2ii: nope! its going to drive me insane09:55
lnx_turazoor , waht you mean write it out ?09:55
turazoorjust look at the PM and write it straight into ur browser09:56
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soa2iilnx_: turazoor searches his driver for his wlan chipset...09:56
soa2iii think he uses a broadcom chipset but i do not really know wich particular veriosn...09:56
soa2iiversion...09:56
turazoornah its ralink09:57
soa2iisure?09:57
turazoorits the r23 or summit hang on09:57
lnx_turazoor , :( i know that i can copy it by hand but it slower . . .09:57
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soa2iihm... turazoor you really should watch for linux drivers first ;)09:57
turazoorok09:57
prakdoes anyone know how to unlock the database in kubuntu for adept?09:58
soa2iigo and get some atheros chipsets... then you'll be able to crack some wlans, too ;)09:58
soa2iiprak: what do you mean?09:58
soa2iido you want to add new repositories?09:58
jugheadI took the "auto eth1" line out of my /etc/network/interfaces file in order to decrease boot time - and it worked.  Howecver, knetworkmanager doesn't have options for wireless networks anymore.  How can I fix it?09:58
soa2iimaybe you should have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list09:58
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praksoa2ii: my adept/synaptic crashed and when i reopened it, it asks me to unlock the database09:59
turazoorok then peeps! Where the cheapest wlan adaptor thats going to work straight away!09:59
soa2iihm... weird...09:59
soa2iiwhat do you get if you do "sudo aptitude update" in a console?10:00
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soa2iiand prak?10:01
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MinnozzDoes anybody know why linux/config.h can't be found?10:01
soa2iino sorry...10:01
llutzMinnozz: because you haven't installed and configured kernel-sources10:01
soa2iihas this smth to do with your kernel?10:01
soa2iii would have a look at the kernel packages....10:02
soa2iilinux-src-generic or so...10:02
Minnozzhmm how can I do that?10:02
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soa2iiopen a terminal10:02
soa2iiand try10:03
soa2iiaptitude search linux10:03
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Minnozzdone10:03
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soa2iiand look for packages with src in its name10:03
llutzlinux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches10:03
soa2iiyes maybe this one (:10:03
praksoa2ii: http://pastebin.ca/67612310:04
soa2iii'm sorry... i am at my girfriend and just sitting here with my macbook10:04
turazoorsoa2ii: it's the Ralink r73 chipset, the system has set it up, hence i think the presence of RT73usb module in lsmod but its the bloody rt25usb driver thats f**king it up10:04
Minnozzyes it's in the list10:04
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soa2iiturazoor: sry... i dont have any further ideas right now...10:05
turazoorsoa2ii dat kewl10:05
soa2iiMinnozz: try th sources then10:05
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turazoorjust explaining ova and ova in the hope that someone on here will lol10:05
soa2iiwell prag ill see...10:05
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soa2iiprak: have you already add some new repositories?10:06
prakno10:06
soa2iihm ok10:06
praki freshly reinstalled kubuntu a while ago10:06
soa2iihave you tried dpkg --configure -a ?10:06
Minnozzsoa2ii: you mean aptitude search sources ?10:06
soa2iino Minnozz10:06
soa2iisudo aptitude install linux-source10:07
soa2iiand then try to make your module again10:07
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Minnozzthanks a lot10:08
Minnozzdownloading now10:08
soa2iiMinnozz10:08
soa2iiyou do not knowwheter it works...10:08
llutzMinnozz: you have to configure the sources and at least to start compiling the kernel. then config.h will be created10:08
soa2iiwait with your cheers ;)10:08
systhello how do i do to join a serveur in french with Konversation10:08
soa2iiMinnozz: what are you going to install?10:08
llutz!fr | syst10:08
ubotusyst: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:09
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Minnozzsoa2ii: driver for my WLAN10:09
soa2iiwhat is its name?10:09
systthanks a lot10:09
MinnozzRealtek RTL818710:09
soa2iiwell i think this one should work fine out of the box.... doesnt it?10:09
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Minnozzi can't connect to my network10:10
Minnozztimeout while connecting10:10
soa2iihm... i'll see... mom10:10
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Minnozzand a friend said i had to install the drivers10:10
Minnozzthis is actually my first day at Linux10:11
soa2iiMinnozz: have you tried sudo modprobe r818x ?10:11
Minnozzno, not yet, what's that?10:11
soa2iiit loads the module for your chipset...10:12
soa2iimaybe you should try this one first ;)10:12
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Minnozzdoesn't give any output, is that right? =\10:13
llutzMinnozz: no output=no error10:13
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Minnozzbut it didn't even ask for my password10:13
soa2iimoment...10:13
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soa2iidoes lsmod | grep 818x offer any output?10:14
Minnozzyes it does10:14
lysdexiaHi all. I'm trying to set up a feisty box as a wireless access point. I'm fairly sure the crapulous linksys USB (wusb54g) adapter I have been playing with will not actually do the trick. Is there a list of adapters that can successfully be used in an AP?10:14
soa2iifine10:14
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soa2iilysdexia: are you sure ubuntu is the right OS for setting up an AP?10:14
soa2iiMinnozz: does you wlan work now?10:15
llutzlysdexia: use an atheros-chipset. madwifi does the trick in 10 seconds10:15
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lysdexiaThe adapter works fine if there is an ap in range.10:15
lysdexiaBut I can't seem to find info on setting it up as an ap.10:16
lysdexiabrb10:16
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Minnozzit hangs at 28% (activation stage: configuring device) ...10:16
soa2iihm....10:16
figdorhi! i'm noob ^^ i got two problems using kubuntu. first is my screen resolution, its 1024*768 - can i get it higher? second theres my mousesensitivity, it's way to high (already 1.0 in the options) can i get it lower? please. THANKS :)10:16
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soa2iiwhat does iwconfig say?10:17
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soa2iifigdor: these are all X-Server settings...10:17
turazoorCalling All Geniuses.................!10:17
soa2iiyou can set you screen resolution directly in /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:17
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figdorhmm10:18
figdori have to type that in the command menu?10:18
soa2iifigdor:10:18
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soa2iitry sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:18
waylandbillturazoor: I'm sure everyone thinks they're a genius. :-D10:18
Minnozzsoa2ii: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=93210:18
waylandbillfigdor: in a konsole10:19
turazoorwaylandbill: well i need a genius, that is actually a genius when it comes to killing things in kubuntu10:19
soa2iiMinnozz: maybe just restart... windows like :P10:19
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waylandbillturazoor: what's your trouble?10:19
soa2iifigdor: do ou have your texteditor open?10:19
Minnozzlol10:20
Minnozzi'll try10:20
figdorbash: sudo: command not found10:20
soa2ii?? :D10:20
figdori can open it?10:20
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soa2iifigdor: open a terminal10:20
soa2iilike "Konsole"10:20
figdorok10:20
llutzMinnozz: type "iwlist s"10:20
soa2iiand then type10:20
soa2iisudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:20
rustalotKNetworkManager isn't working properly: It doesn't show any wireless networks, even though iwlist scan shows 6.10:21
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lysdexiaiwconfig shows the interface, no problem. My problem is not with the device itself as a client, but actually finding a device that will work properly as an access point.10:21
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lysdexia(sorry for the delay)10:21
figdorhmm10:21
llutzlysdexia: you need special hardware/drivers which support AP-mode10:21
soa2iifigdor: ok?10:21
llutzlysdexia: like madwifi10:21
Minnozzllutz: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=93310:21
figdoryeah10:22
soa2iifine10:22
figdortheres alot of10:22
figdortext :/10:22
lysdexiaAh. Thanks very much llutz.10:22
phpcodeis there a command that gives me info about the system, system memory ect??10:22
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soa2iifigdor: yes great10:22
soa2iigo down with ypur curser10:22
llutzMinnozz: your AP is switched on and works?10:22
soa2iiuntil you reach the resolution section10:22
waylandbillfigdor: conf(iguration) files tend to.10:22
Minnozzit worked an hour ago on windows....10:22
figdor2sec10:23
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waylandbillMinnozz: you could try ndiswrapper possibly.10:23
Minnozzthat's the windows driver emulator, right?10:23
llutzMinnozz: then your driver seems not to work, follow waylandbill10:23
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Fusion_hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. i didn;t have this problem with edgy. thanks10:24
figdoryeah, section "screen"10:24
lysdexiaAh. That's got it. I can get it from here. Appreciate the help llutz. (sometimes it just takes the word ... ya know? :-)10:24
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soa2iifigdor: right...10:24
godstormi have a ?10:24
godstormhow can i use the same Sound Card10:24
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godstormto Listen and Talk On TS10:24
soa2iifigdor: just add under the depth 24 section the resolution you want10:24
godstorm?10:24
figdor?10:24
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figdorand that10:24
figdoris just that?10:24
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figdorand then just close the window?10:25
soa2iin10:25
soa2iino10:25
soa2iistrg + x is exit10:25
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soa2iiand you eed to save the file10:25
godstormcan you help me?10:25
soa2iithen you have to restart you x-server10:25
soa2iifigdor: do ou have a second pc there?10:26
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figdornope10:26
llutzMinnozz: "sudo rmmod r818x"10:26
soa2iifigdor: damn...10:26
Minnozzgives no output10:26
figdor?!10:26
llutzMinnozz: fine10:26
soa2iimaybe, if you've made a mistake, you get a console on restart...10:26
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llutzMinnozz: you'll need the xp-drivers for ndiswrapper10:27
figdorwtf10:27
Fusion_hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. i didn't have this problem with edgy. thanks10:27
soa2iijust change your things and everything will be fine again... ok?10:27
godstorm?10:27
soa2iifigdor: if you get an error10:27
figdormy linux is fucked10:27
godstormlol10:27
soa2iido sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf again10:27
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Minnozzllutz: is that hard to install?10:27
llutzMinnozz: if you speak italian :) http://lucaberna.netsons.org/2007/04/23/ubuntu-festy-ndiswrapper-realtek-rtl-8187-asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/10:27
figdorok10:27
llutzMinnozz: not really10:27
soa2iiand remove your changes10:28
figdorgr810:28
godstormany one here?10:28
soa2iithen everything will like now10:28
figdorand how do i restart the xserver?10:28
soa2iinow you can restart your x-server10:28
figdorhow?10:28
soa2iilogout10:28
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figdorhmm10:28
soa2iiand choose "restart x-server"10:28
Minnozzllutz: too bad, only Dutch, English and a little German, French and Latin10:28
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soa2iifrom the menu10:28
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figdorcan i close the konsole10:29
figdor?10:29
soa2iiyes10:29
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soa2iii thing nano is away10:29
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soa2iiisnt it?10:29
llutzMinnozz: important in that link are only the blue-underlayed commands, follow them if you have got your win.drivers ready10:29
Minnozzllutz: ok i'll try10:29
soa2iii hope figdor will be back (:10:29
Minnozzllutz: do I need to have anything installed before i follow that guide?10:30
llutzMinnozz: i guess ndiswrapper is already installed10:30
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Turazoorsoa2ii: I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:30
TurazoorYAY!10:30
soa2iiTurazoor: yes?10:30
soa2iiwhat was it? (:10:30
llutzMinnozz: otherwise: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper10:30
Turazoori blacklisted rt2570 cos that was what was loading the rt25usb10:31
Turazoorsoa2ii: but now it stalls on connection, trying to configure device lol!10:31
soa2ii:/10:32
Turazoorsoa2ii: its just problem after problem lol !10:32
soa2iiyes... linux and wlan...10:32
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Turazoorbut at least it aint lagging da system lol!10:32
soa2iii hate those restrictive manufactures...10:32
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Turazoorsoa2ii: so u reckon belkin have stopped it against use from linux?10:32
soa2iifigdor is away such a long time... i think he destructs his xorg.conf :(10:33
soa2iiTurazoor: no not really... but there are "nice" manufactures and those who are not so nice...10:33
Turazoorok then10:33
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Minnozzwhat exactly is gksu10:34
knuffihallo10:34
llutzMinnozz: forget that line10:34
soa2iiMinnozz: i think some sudo frontend for GNOME10:35
Minnozzcan I just skip it?10:35
llutzMinnozz: use "sudo nano /etc/...."10:35
soa2iiMinnozz: where does it appear?10:35
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llutzsoa2ii: http://lucaberna.netsons.org/2007/04/23/ubuntu-festy-ndiswrapper-realtek-rtl-8187-asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/10:35
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MinnozzI don't speak Italian so I can't read the comments10:36
llutzMinnozz: open nano and add a line "blacklist rt8187"10:36
soa2iihe all... i am sorry but my girlfriend has smth better to do ;)10:37
Minnozzwhat's nano?10:37
llutzsoa2ii: let's do her alone10:37
soa2iii hope you "understand" ;)10:37
llutzMinnozz: an editor10:37
soa2iillutz: i don't know if that works ;)10:37
soa2iiMinnozz: nano is like terminal-kate ;)10:37
llutzMinnozz:"sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"10:37
llutzsoa2ii: scary IF it works10:38
soa2iiwell... have fun then and greet figdor if he'll be back once ;)10:38
soa2iillutz: :P (:10:38
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soa2iigood night10:38
llutzgn10:38
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Minnozzlol10:38
Minnozzthis explains10:38
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llutzMinnozz: enter above command into a konsole10:39
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vcdaaaamn10:39
Minnozzyeah I did10:39
vcthe OS is sooooo slow now....10:39
Minnozzthey're already blacklisted10:39
Minnozzthat probably why it doesn't work10:39
llutzMinnozz: fine, CTRL-X to leave10:39
Minnozz# buggy driver causes kernel BUG on load (Ubuntu: #78255, #88430)10:40
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llutzMinnozz: hehe, known crap10:40
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Minnozzso I can follow the guide from there on?10:40
apocalyptoHi everyone, quick question. My university has a WPA2 Enterprise with Dynamic WEP type wireless. Knetworkmanager doesnt connect to such networks. Rather I cant specify key type as dynamic WEP. Is there some other *GUI* front end which can be used?10:40
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sk1t3llesHi I am looking to setup a basic firewall for kubuntu like i want to block X11 ports, disable source routing, icmp packets, syn and smurf attacks, can anyone point me to a site that offers information on doing this for kubuntu or ubuntu10:41
llutzMinnozz: follow from "ndiswrapper..." after you got the win.driver unpacked to a directory10:41
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Minnozzllutz: do I need win98 driver?10:42
llutzMinnozz: win98 or xp10:43
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Minnozzgood10:43
llutzMinnozz: i'm not sure, never used ndiswrapper myself10:43
Minnozzbecause there is no 9810:43
figdorwheres that dude that helped me before10:43
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llutzfigdor: he has to do a hard job in real-life10:43
Fusion_hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. thanks10:43
cbtis155hola atodos , decasualidad alguien abla espaol10:43
llutz!es | cbtis15510:44
ubotucbtis155: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:44
figdorhmm10:44
figdorits just10:44
figdori made a change in the10:44
figdorconfig?10:44
cbtis155gracias10:44
figdornow i can boot two of the same OS'10:44
figdorbefore there was only one10:44
figdorand its veeeeery slow now10:44
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Turazoorcan anyone help!10:49
Turazoori have some source gzs10:49
butihi.10:49
Turazoorbeing a noob to linux, i'm not quite sure what to do with em, i need to use ndiswrapper for my wlan card, but wot do i do lol10:50
apocalyptoPlease help. Is there a way I could connect to a wireless connection that has WPA2 Enterprise with Dynamic WEP? I want a GUI tool10:50
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butihow can i help improve (k)ubuntu for the macbookpro310:50
lnx_someone know how to print in kubuntu with CANON PIXMA IP1500 ?10:52
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blackchaoscan sum 1 give me the command so that i can be able 2 edit my grub boot menu list10:57
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llutzblackchaos: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst10:58
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blackchaosk thx alot10:58
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drifblackchaos: or kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst10:58
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Turazoorhi peeps.... what this mean10:58
Turazoor    4. Check your install (load module, bring interface up and scan):10:58
Turazoor        # modprobe rt73 [debug=<mask>10:58
Turazoorwhat is the debug all about?10:59
nosrednaekimTurazoor: thats all it gave you?10:59
go11umHi everybody10:59
nosrednaekimTurazoor: and as well... is that a manual page, or a error message?11:00
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go11ummay i ask a question about wifi ?11:00
Turazoorthats a manual11:00
nosrednaekimhey go11um11:00
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