[12:37] <nosrednaekim> DevideZero: it does work or DOESN't work?
[12:38] <ScorpKing> jork: tried aptitude search torrent?
[12:39] <Jork> no, didnt try
[12:39] <Jork> but is not there neither
[12:40] <ScorpKing> try a manual install
[12:40] <adenicio> mm manul?
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> Jork: try searchng for a .deb on google?
[12:41] <ScorpKing> download source, make and install :)
[12:41] <adenicio> ok im running in english now tanks
[12:41] <Jork> nosrednaekim: I downloaded a .deb, but how do I install it?
[12:41] <genii> Jork: It's in backports. enable it , do apt-get update and now you should have a package to install for it
[12:41] <DevideZero> nosrednaekim , after i install and reboot i have no graphic ( only tty1 - tty6 )
[12:42] <Jork> genii: backports?
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> Jork: "sudo dpkg -i <deb>"
[12:42] <genii> Jork: Yes.
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> DevideZero: which graphics driver?
[12:42] <adenicio> inaety_: i install bluez but im not seing it in the k-menu
[12:42] <anon32> !repositories | Jork
[12:42] <ubotu> Jork: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:42] <Jork> genii: how do I enable it?
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> !graphics | DevideZero
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia | DevideZero
[12:42] <ubotu> DevideZero: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:43] <anon32> Jork, did you even spend the 5 seconds to read what I wrote?
[12:43] <Scorpaen> hey folks i'm stuck in a console. tonights updates broke my xorg it seems
[12:43] <anon32> hmm?
[12:43] <anon32> can you downgrade?
[12:43] <Jork> anon32: I just reading it
[12:43] <Scorpaen> anon32: or it might be kdm that's broken. it failed to update
[12:43] <adenicio> no update
[12:43] <DevideZero> nosrednaekim , geforce 5200 fx , and i know how to install it in ubuntu i had no problem
[12:43] <genii> Jork: edit with admin privelege /etc/apt/sources.list    remove # before the 2 entries for backports. save the changes. do sudo apt-get update. then you should be able to install it
[12:43] <anon32> Scorpaen, ah
[12:44] <Scorpaen> anon32: i'm on gutsy
[12:44] <adenicio> oh
[12:44] <anon32> #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <Scorpaen> thanks
[12:44] <adenicio> oh
[12:44] <anon32> I haven't seen any X updates though
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> DevideZero: run this on the command line "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:44] <Jork> thank you genii!!
[12:45] <genii> Jork: np
[12:46] <Jork> genii:  is not in backports
[12:47] <Jork> I enabled it and updated the list
[12:47] <genii> !info deluge-torrent
[12:47] <Jork> !info deluge-torrent
[12:47] <DevideZero> nosrednaekim , this should reinstall the driver or fix somthing ?
[12:47] <genii> bah ubotu is off it seems
[12:47] <ubotu> Package deluge-torrent does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:48] <Jork> !info deluge
[12:48] <ubotu> Package deluge does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:48] <genii> !info deluge-torrent edgy
[12:48] <ubotu> Package deluge-torrent does not exist in edgy
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> DevideZero: it will give you a config so that you can choose your graphics driver
[12:49] <genii> That makes no sense. For instance, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy-backports/net/deluge-torrent
[12:49] <Jork> haha
[12:50] <genii> Also I see it with apt-cache on my box
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Jork, so you are running ubuntu/gnome , not kubuntu/kde ?
[12:50] <Jork> im running Kubuntu
[12:50] <BluesKaj> then whynot use ktorrent ?
[12:51] <Jork> they told me deluge is like utorrent
[12:51] <Jork> Im used to utorrent, I wanted to try it
[12:51] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is very much like utorrent too
[12:52] <BluesKaj> except it's better :)
[12:52] <Jork> really?
[12:52] <anon32> no
[12:52] <anon32> :-)
[12:52] <BluesKaj> more functions
[12:52] <Jork> haha
[12:52] <anon32> BluesKaj, less I find, actually
[12:52] <anon32> at the very least, it's less verbose in output
[12:52] <Jork> anon32 did you try deluge?
[12:52] <anon32> nah
[12:54] <Jork> Im getting an error trying to install the .deb with kpackage
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> don't use kpackage
[12:54] <Jork> ok
[12:55] <inaety_> adenicio: then open it in a terminal...
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> Jork: use adept
[12:55] <Jork> I open it with adept?
[12:56] <genii> jork: get http://download.deluge-torrent.org/ubuntu/feisty/0.5.4.1/deluge-torrent_0.5.4.1-1_i386.deb           then in console in same directory, sudo dpkg -i deluge-torrent_0.5.4.1-1_i386.deb
[12:56] <Jork> genii: I did that
[12:56] <BluesKaj> well anon I prefer not to run apps in wine that's why i got into linux
[12:56] <Jork> but it says that there are things that I have to install
[12:56] <BluesKaj> to avoid windows if at all possible
[12:57] <genii> Jork: The dependecies you need first are on this page. http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/ubuntu-feisty-fawn-1/software-for-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/deluge-torrent-on-ubuntu-feisty-fawn
[12:57] <genii> except the url I gave is for a newer deb file
[12:57] <Jork> I have to install them one by one?
[12:58] <genii> Jork: No, you can do like: sudo apt-get install thing1 thing2 thing3 thing4       etc in a single shot
[12:58] <Jork> oh, ok
[12:58] <Jork> didnt know that
[12:59] <CPrompt^> anyone do any Python programming?
[12:59] <adenicio> inaety_: can i install ares(p2p)with lime wire?if yes how?
[01:00] <BluesKaj> heh, 3 copy&pastes from the page and yer done
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> CPrompt^: a little... why?
[01:01] <CPrompt^> was wondering a good ide to use to build gui.
[01:01] <Jork> genii: I got it working! thank you very much, ok?
[01:01] <genii> jork: Good to hear :)
[01:02] <inaety_> adenicio: GiFT
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> CPrompt^: qt-designer can't be beaten if you are doing qt devlopment
[01:02] <CPrompt^> nosrednaekim : i have qt3 with the python plugins but not sure if that is right.
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> eric is a good programming ide
[01:03] <genii> bah All my mice are messed. I'm sure it's because no ps2 mouse port on this mb so using a usb->ps2 adapter
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> CPrompt^: pyqt? yeah.. thats good enough... start writing :)
[01:03] <CPrompt^> nosrednaekim : yeah.  that's what I was playing with yesterday.  Is there a good site on how to use Python with Qt?
[01:03] <BioVorE> not really..
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> hmm IDK... I kinda just learned by looking at code.
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> CPrompt^: do you know python?
[01:04] <BioVorE> CPrompt^: http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~afedosov/qttut/ <-- the only one I found when I was doing that stuff..
[01:04] <BioVorE> There is a good book though..
[01:04] <CPrompt^> nosrednaekim : not that well.  just command line stuff.  I do program though.  Mostly PHP
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> CPrompt^: well, i'd reccomned getting a book on python first, and learning the language really wel
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> have to go.. bye
[01:05] <adenicio> inaety_: GIFT,,,??? WA IS THAT?
[01:06] <inaety_> adenicio: ... www.google.com
[01:08] <arriesp> bye
[01:08] <adenicio> inaety_:  lol
[01:09] <adenicio> inaety_: so u are saying google is my friend then ?lol
[01:09] <BioVorE> hehe
[01:09] <adenicio> inaety_: and ffor limewire?
[01:09] <hashfreak> any one from germany
[01:10] <hashfreak> ?
[01:12] <BluesKaj> !de | hashfreak
[01:12] <ubotu> hashfreak: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:14] <inaety_> adenicio: okay limewire is just a frontend for the Gnutella network...all it does is use the Gnutella netowrk.  Gift uses plugins to connect to networks such as Gnutella and Ares and a few more all in more daemon..thus you can get a Qt GUI for it (apollon) and search it from there and such...no more need for limewire because it sucks anyways...
[01:17] <mankeletor> anyone can tell where's the inittab config file?
[01:25] <adenicio> inaety_: ok a friend try to view his webcam but all im seing is green no pic watsoever
[01:25] <adenicio> mankeletor: wat do u want to do with the file modify it?
[01:28] <inaety_> adenicio: i cannot help you with webcams, sorry i've ne ver used one in my life
[01:28] <adenicio> never
[01:28] <adenicio> ok
[01:28] <inaety_> yeah typo sorry
[01:29] <adenicio> inaety_: i got problem viewin some streaming from a web site with konqueror.it does play the vidos,and with firefox it say cannot connect to this link etc
[01:30] <adenicio> inaety_: befor it work when i was installin real player but now nothing
[01:30] <inaety_> adenicio: what file are you tryping to play
[01:31] <adenicio> inaety_: its not a file it's a video like on youtube
[01:31] <inaety_> so it's flash?
[01:32] <adenicio> i ask a friend to try the link for me he says its working for him with konkeror
[01:32] <adenicio> inaety_:
[01:32] <BioVorE> youtube is a flash thing..
[01:32] <BioVorE> flash 9
[01:33] <inaety> adenicio: if it's flash player then install flash plugin, rescan for flash for plugins and then restart konqueror if really so desired...then try again
[01:33] <adenicio> well the site is a flash thing too*
[01:33] <adenicio> lol
[01:33] <inaety> thank you BioVorE
[01:35] <adenicio> inaety_: adept stick on instaling some packs"fail to open device"how do i make it skip?im instaling gift
[01:35] <adenicio> inaety_: kill it?
[01:36] <adenicio> i killed it lol
[01:36] <vit__> holaa
[01:36] <vit__> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:36] <vit__> ajvsdkvdv
[01:36] <vit__> vdjvdsmv
[01:36] <cloakable> O.o
[01:36] <vit__> maldito linux
[01:37] <adenicio> inaety: crap actualy it had stick because i had to full out something lol i didnt see it it was hidding
[01:38] <p3t3r0xxx> anyone speek english?
[01:38] <Angelus> i do
[01:38] <adenicio> i do
[01:38] <shinobi> anyone have suggestion for editing vcards?
[01:38] <p3t3r0xxx> hi angelus.
[01:39] <p3t3r0xxx> anyone know if kubuntu supports wireless cards in vmware?
[01:39] <adenicio> BioVorE: theres no flash 9 in adept
[01:39] <Angelus> hmm
[01:39] <Angelus> p3t3r0xxx: thats not about kubuntu thats about vmware, if vmware suports them, then np
[01:40] <p3t3r0xxx> hmm vmware only sees the ethernet card card so I guess not :(
[01:40] <p3t3r0xxx> Angelus what is a good package manager for ubuntu?
[01:40] <BluesKaj> synaptic
[01:40] <Angelus> i dont use ubuntu
[01:40] <Angelus> i use kubuntu
[01:40] <Angelus> i dont like gnome
[01:41] <p3t3r0xxx> I am using kubuntu
[01:41] <BluesKaj> this is akubuntu chat , p3t3r0xxx
[01:41] <linux_user400354> how can i get alsalibs to compile in 32 bit for support for 32 bit apps on a 64 bit system?
[01:41] <BluesKaj> well then yer in the right place :)
[01:41] <adenicio> #ubuntu
[01:41] <p3t3r0xxx> kewlz
[01:41] <p3t3r0xxx> synaptic is a pckmgr?
[01:42] <BluesKaj> yes
[01:42] <BluesKaj> as is adept and apt
[01:43] <p3t3r0xxx> what is the quickest way to install it from  a new install
[01:44] <BluesKaj> adept works well too, I suggested synaptic cuz i thot you were on ubuntu
[01:45] <p3t3r0xxx> will synaptic work with kubuntu?
[01:45] <adenicio> BluesKaj: konqueror dont want to uninstall
[01:46] <BluesKaj> yes p3t3r0xxx
[01:46] <BluesKaj> adenicio, what distro are you on ?
[01:47] <adenicio> BluesKaj: distro?
[01:47] <BluesKaj> ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[01:47] <adenicio> feisty 7.04
[01:48] <inaety> adenicio: i dont understand
[01:48] <p3t3r0xxx> Thanks guys
[01:48] <inaety> adenicio: but i cant talk i have to do chemistry homework. good luck night
[01:49] <BluesKaj> adenicio, i think you need to install kubuntu-desktop
[01:49] <adenicio> inaety: k
[01:49] <adenicio> BluesKaj: feisty is kubuntu
[01:49] <BluesKaj> it's also ubuntu
[01:50] <ivan> hey have anyone here installed  compi fusion???
[01:50] <adenicio> BluesKaj: abon?
[01:50] <adenicio> BluesKaj: i said 7.04
[01:50] <BluesKaj> if you don't have kubuntu-desktop then konq prolly won't install
[01:51] <BluesKaj> it's part of kubuntu-desktop actually
[01:51] <steiner01> hello
[01:52] <BluesKaj> hi steiner01
[01:55] <adenicio> BluesKaj: konqueror not playing a flash video from a website wat do i have to install for it to play?
[01:57] <shinobi> stupid question. there is 'simple' or 'full' version of the vcard editor. it's an option in setting of kaddressbooks
[01:58] <monolith> Theoreticly, How much lag would takeing a 1080p HD signal in though a HD capture card, upscaleing it to display at 2560x1600 and outputting it to a monitor preduce?
[02:00] <adenicio> monolith: why firefox dont want to uninstall?
[02:00] <BluesKaj> adenicio, install flashplayer-nonfree , then in konqueror/sttings/configure konqueror/ select plugins/ sacn plugins/ click on default
[02:01] <BluesKaj> er scan plugins
[02:01] <mluser> can some one please tell me how to regenerate the graphical boot screen to 1400x1050 instead of the 1600x1200 it did during the initial install?
[02:02] <adenicio> BluesKaj: it cant find the flashplayer-nonfree
[02:03] <BluesKaj> oops sorry adencio , flashplugin-nonfree
[02:03] <genii> !helpersnack | BluesKaj
[02:03] <ubotu> BluesKaj: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[02:04] <BluesKaj> thx for the cookie , ubotu and genii :)
[02:04] <sumguy231>  /away
[02:05] <adenicio> lol
[02:06] <adenicio> BluesKaj: i did what u said the i got the sound but no picture(video)
[02:07] <rustalot> Hey, I used to use Automatix to install a bunch of stuff (mostly codecs & decss), but it's a new install and so I figured I'm going to /not/ break my system, so I was wondering: Can I get all the proprietary codecs & deCSS through Adept?
[02:08] <rustalot> Or do I need special repos?
[02:08] <drif> rustalot: define codecs
[02:09] <ivan> hey how do i install xgl on kubuntu??
[02:09] <BluesKaj> adenicio, install java-commom and j2re1.4 with adept
[02:09] <ivan> !xgl
[02:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:09] <adenicio> rustalot: install libxine-extracodecs and amorok will play all types of music and kaffein too.if some dont play install vlc
[02:10] <BluesKaj> java-common
[02:10] <ivan> heelp
[02:12] <genii> ivan: You didn't even take time yet obviously to go to the link that the bot gave you.
[02:12] <BluesKaj> rustalot, the seveas or medibuntu repos will have what you need
[02:12] <adenicio> BluesKaj: java common was install allready but  j2re1.4 i dont see it
[02:13] <BluesKaj> where are you looking adenicio ?
[02:13] <adenicio> adept maneger
[02:14] <BluesKaj> just enter java in the search
[02:15] <ivan> genii: i got there
[02:15] <ivan> genii: didnt help me
[02:18] <adenicio> BluesKaj: that is to much to look at
[02:19] <genii> ivan From this page are 4 links you may find useful, in the XGL/AIGLX section http://www.linuxmonitor.net/blog/2007/03/ubuntu-customization-guide-part-i.html
[02:19] <BluesKaj> then , sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 in the konsole
[02:23] <jon_> Do you guys know a GOOD alternative to amule??
[02:23] <anon32> emule
[02:23] <jon_> for linux?
[02:25] <genii> jon_: You can always choose one from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_eDonkey_software
[02:26] <jon_> thank you genii
[02:26] <KrAmMeR> does anyone use apollon?
[02:26] <KrAmMeR> i'm having trouble connection to the networks
[02:26] <genii> jon_: np
[02:26] <KrAmMeR> connecting*
[02:27] <sumguy231> KrAmMeR: I use it occasionally, it usually takes a minute or two to connect to all of the networks.
[02:27] <KrAmMeR> yeh i've had it open for a while
[02:28] <KrAmMeR> and it still says connecting...do certain ports need to be opened?
[02:29] <sumguy231> As far as I remember, I didn't have to do anything special to get it to connect, but it's been a while. I don't really know.
[02:29] <KrAmMeR> hmm
[02:31] <genii> KrAmMeR: Open up port 1214
[02:31] <genii> KrAmMeR: Or forward it on your router, etc to the computer
[02:31] <KrAmMeR> right
[02:32] <KrAmMeR> k ill try that
[02:32] <KrAmMeR> says thats kazaa/morpheus/imesh
[02:33] <KrAmMeR> actually i already have that open...
[02:33] <genii> KrAmMeR: Do you have the giFT daemon running?
[02:34] <genii> eg: giftd
[02:34] <KrAmMeR> i know i downloaded it...
[02:35] <KrAmMeR> it doesn't start automatically when starting apollon?
[02:35] <genii> KrAmMeR: try ps ax|grep giftd
[02:35] <KrAmMeR> 16194 ?        S      0:00 giftd
[02:36] <KrAmMeR> 16325 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep giftd
[02:36] <KrAmMeR> has those
[02:36] <genii> KrAmMeR: OK. Outta ideas then
[02:36] <KrAmMeR> doh
[02:37] <genii> If it's making a log you could try to look at that for some clues
[02:37] <ben> guys i need some advice please
[02:37] <KrAmMeR> ok i'll see if thers one anywhere
[02:37] <KrAmMeR> thanks
[02:37] <rustalot> Can someone help me with step 6 of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509408 ?
[02:38] <ben> anyone?
[02:39] <ivan> genii: i cant install compiz fusion because it says it cant install compiz-decorator
[02:39] <genii> KrAmMeR: Did you also run the program gift-setup ?
[02:40] <sumguy231> ben: Well, what's your advice already?
[02:40] <genii> ivan: Do you know how to use the pastebin website?
[02:40] <sumguy231> Er, I mean... what do you need?
[02:40] <genii> ben: Best to say what you need advice with rather than just ageneralised plea for assistance
[02:40] <evjunior09> Can anyone tell me why i cant play music from a CD?
[02:40] <ben> sumguy well when i tried to look at i drive earlier on whih is my secondry hdd it said it hadnt been formatted... i guess it had been wiped
[02:41] <evjunior09> my drive works and all, but my music players freeze when i wanna play one, and same for my friend
[02:41] <josiah> !k9copy
[02:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:41] <evjunior09> CD's, not DVD's
[02:41] <ben> however the info is back now and linux loads can anyone explain?
[02:41] <ivan> genii: no im a noob
[02:41] <josiah> haha no sorry evjunior09 that was for me :)
[02:41] <evjunior09> lol oh okay
[02:42] <genii> !pastebin | ivan
[02:42] <ubotu> ivan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:42] <evjunior09> Has anyone else that this problem?
[02:42] <sumguy231> ben: Wait, what reported it as not formatted? What is on the drive?
[02:42] <adenicio> BluesKaj: u there?i still dont have no pic for the flash on the website
[02:42] <genii> ivan: So what I need is for you to copy and paste whatever errors/messages it is giving you onto that site. then report the url the pastebin gives you back here so I can go see what you see.
[02:43] <ivan> genii: eventhough its in spanish
[02:43] <ivan> genii: ??
[02:43] <ben> sumguy linux was on it as a n operating system i noticed it cos i dual boot linucx wudnt boot up so i used the secondry o/p system and noticed that my computer said the drive was blank
[02:43] <genii> ivan: I'll muddle through :)
[02:44] <genii> adenicio: BluesKaj is taking a breather to watch TV
[02:44] <xptical> Hi all.
[02:44] <ben> sumguy when i right clicked to explre it said the drive wasnt formatted
[02:44] <xptical> In Ubuntu, I can switch users without logging the first user off.  Does Kybuntu have the same thing?
[02:45] <ivan> genii: ok thankls
[02:45] <sumguy231> ben: From Windows? I could see it as thinking that, since it can't read ext3.
[02:45] <sumguy231> xptical: K -> Switch User.
[02:45] <ben> i left the pc for a while switched off and its fine now
[02:45] <adenicio> genii: there manythings better that tv.witch one is helpin me out
[02:45] <xptical> kk
[02:45] <xptical> Thanks
[02:46] <ben> sumguy it has found linux fine and booted up but im wondering what caused it and if i should take any action to prevent it happening
[02:46] <genii> adenicio: I'm sure he'll return, not logged off yet
[02:46] <adenicio> genii: can u help me?
[02:47] <xptical> Should I use the AMD 64 release?  I have a AMD64 proc.  I ask because WinXP64 is shit.  Just want to know if Kubuntu-64 is also, well, you know, shit.
[02:47] <sumguy231> ben: I don't think it's a formatting problem, but here's a guess: I have a hard drive (system partition) which had a bad cable, and it would regularly disconnect and either freeze the system (kernel panic) or keep it from booting. Maybe check that if it's on a separate physical drive from windows.
[02:47] <genii> adenicio: I'm already helping someone else right now. Besides which i'm not great at troubleshooting flash stuff.
[02:48] <ben> sumguy its not i think if i remember i drive is a partition of the drive windows is on too i think... but i thought i had lost everything on it was a bit worrying
[02:48] <adenicio> genii: were is stbin?or runelevent?they on vacation?stbin helps a lot
[02:49] <genii> ivan: I'm away from my computer for a few minutes but I'm returning. In case you get anxious if no immediate reply :)
[02:49] <sumguy231> Once again, was there an error booting? I don't think this necessarily means your partition is in danger right now, it sounds like it could be a number of things.
[02:49] <genii> adenicio: LOL I think you mean stdin and runleventen. I haven't seen them much tonight
[02:49] <genii> AFK
[02:50] <adenicio> ok
[02:50] <ben> sumguy yeah it wudnt boot at all. nor would it let me see what was on the drive it semed as if i was blank
[02:50] <ben> seems fine now th
[02:50] <ben> though*
[02:51] <elite101> hello
[02:52] <rustalot> can I pause apt downloads in Adept?
[02:53] <Elendil^^> i've installed compiz fusion and even got the fusion icon. my problem now is every time i boot up, theres no window deco. i have to run emerald -replace eveytime. is there a workaround?
[02:53] <sumguy231> ben: see if you have a /var/log/boot.log file. If you do, look at it. I don't for some reason, though I could swear it's supposed to be there. There is a /var/log/boot, though it seems to have binary data in it.
[02:54] <sumguy231> I think it might be fine, but keep an eye on it.
[02:54] <jhutchins> adenicio: RE: Flash, there's no charge for it, but it's not a free license.
[02:55] <sumguy231> Elendil^^: You can put a script that starts emerald --replace in ~/.kde/Autostart as a workaround.
[02:55] <elite101> hello
[02:56] <adenicio> elite101: are u good with helpin domain with flas?
[02:56] <adenicio> jhutchins:
[02:56] <elite101> what?
[02:56] <vers> should i use ktorrent or azureus
[02:56] <elite101> flacs*
[02:56] <elite101> ohh you again
[02:56] <adenicio> lol sorry flash
[02:56] <elite101> no cant say i am? you mean getting flash working?
[02:57] <genii> back
[02:57] <sumguy231> vers: Personal opinion, but I prefer ktorrent by a mile.
[02:57] <Elendil^^> sumguy231: : not sure i know how to do that :) can u help me out?
[02:57] <vers> thanks man
[02:57] <Jork> Can anyone tell my which java I have to install to java on the browser?
[02:57] <sumguy231> Elendil^^: Hold on a minute.
[02:57] <elite101> why is it when i sau hello the room lights up with life?
[02:57] <elite101> lol
[02:57] <Jork> vers: use deluge!
[02:57] <adenicio> weell elite101 konqueror i cant see the video just the sound i can hair
[02:57] <adenicio> hear
[02:58] <vers> where can i get it?
[02:58] <adenicio> sorry for my bad english
[02:58] <vers> im new to this
[02:58] <elite101> lol adenicio do u have it enabled in the broswer?
[02:58] <Jork> http://deluge-torrent.org/
[02:58] <elite101> the flash
[02:58] <vers> cool
[02:58] <sumguy231> Elendil^^: This should do you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35619/ (I hope I'm doing this pastebin thing right. ;) )
[02:59] <KrAmMeR> genii: na i didn't run that
[02:59] <elite101> thast weird i never had that happen only the audio plays and not the movie?
[02:59] <KrAmMeR> i just installed it from apt
[02:59] <elite101> well video*
[02:59] <jhutchins> !java | Jork
[02:59] <ubotu> Jork: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:59] <adenicio> elite101: mm where do u enable it?it shows the video on youtube but not the site i want
[02:59] <sumguy231> Elendil^^: Save that, type 'chmod +x <name of script>' and put it in .kde/Autostart in your home directory.
[02:59] <nico__> quit
[02:59] <Jork> thanks jhutchins
[02:59] <elite101> im sorry not the site?
[03:00] <elite101> adenicio, how did you install flash from? adept?
[03:00] <adenicio> yes
[03:00] <adenicio> i tink
[03:00] <Elendil^^> sumguy231: ok. ill try it. thanks
[03:01] <bomber> anyone have a problem with internet cutting out when you put a load on it in feisty fawn?
[03:01] <genii> KrAmMeR: Perhaps see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/internet.html  where it has Apollon. Dapper centric but likely applicable
[03:01] <elite101> mhm well people have problems with flash for konqueror but what i did if you want is sudo apt-get install firefox then i went to a site requesting flash and then Firefox installed the plugin and it worked on both Konqeuror and fire fox
[03:01] <vers> jork: where do u find your torrents
[03:01] <elite101> i happen to use firefox more than konqueror and vise versa some days
[03:02] <Jork> www.mininova.org
[03:02] <Jork> www.torrentspy.com
[03:02] <elite101> vers, www.thepiratebay.com www.bitoogle.com www.isohunt.com
[03:02] <Jork> www.torrentz.com
[03:02] <elite101> there are like thousands
[03:03] <vers> btjunky.com?
[03:03] <Jork> also
[03:03] <elite101> lol i personally like tpb
[03:03] <Jork> but I dont like it
[03:03] <Jork> bad quality torrents
[03:03] <elite101> there is deminoid torrent
[03:03] <Jork> I like mininova.org
[03:03] <matias> Hi guys
[03:04] <vers> yeah ive noticed
[03:04] <elite101> matias, hello
[03:04] <adenicio> elite101: firefox giving me problem even worst.it give me an error about it cant connetc to this hppt thing watever.only konqueror plays the video well the sound only
[03:04] <matias> I`m having problems installing Vmware
[03:04] <elite101> wow did you happen to mess something up?
[03:04] <vers> thanks jork
[03:04] <elite101> it cant connect to the HTTP server?
[03:05] <Jork> np vers
[03:05] <adenicio> elite101: i tink all started with trying to install real player
[03:05] <elite101> lol realplayer?
[03:05] <adenicio> yes
[03:05] <elite101> the only thing i heard of that was for windoze
[03:05] <Elendil^^> sumguy231: it worked perfectly ( i bet u knew it would) thanks a lot
[03:06] <elite101> why do you need real player adenicio,
[03:06] <adenicio> elite101: well its install on my linux.then everything was playing untill i restart the pc then problems
[03:06] <elite101> ahh well i cant really tell on what the problem is? are you sure it installed properlly?
[03:07] <adenicio> elite101: the website that i wanted to view the flash ask me to install realplayer to view the video from firefox
[03:07] <elite101> adenicio, try removing the realplayer and re-installing it
[03:07] <elite101> realplayer?
[03:07] <elite101> it should be java
[03:07] <elite101> i mean sorry
[03:07] <matias> Guys I`m having problems installing Vmware it told me  where is the C headers
[03:07] <elite101> flash*
[03:07] <Biovore> well I am convinced knetworkmanger is gay.... :-/
[03:07] <elite101> :P
[03:07] <Biovore> Maybe time to make one that dosn't suck..
[03:07] <elite101> who is it gay? or well correct term "stupid"
[03:08] <Biovore> yeah..
[03:08] <elite101> how is it? works good for me
[03:08] <elite101> connects evertime i log on and stuff
[03:08] <adenicio> elite101: i forgot how to install realplayer it was in a bin extention.and real player is install on my descktop
[03:08] <elite101> adenicio, what website
[03:08] <Biovore> Well I unpluged my wired network for 2 seconds then plugged it back in..  knetwork manger went nuts and started sucking 100% CPU..
[03:08] <sanzanric> kubuntunewbie: hey, my wifi was lost when my building lost power, sorry. Were you able to install pidgin?
[03:08] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know what the status of using OOXML files in OpenOffice.org is?
[03:08] <Biovore> Cool Idea.. bad implementation..
[03:09] <adenicio> elite101: if i told u the website they will kick me out like the last time
[03:09] <rustalot> Amarok keeps crashing.. I tried apt-get remove --purge amarok && apt-get install amarok, but it didn't work
[03:09] <elite101> adenicio, meet me in the channel /elite101-help
[03:09] <adenicio> elite101: how do i get in that chanel?
[03:09] <elite101> adenicio, meet me in the #elite101-help channel
[03:09] <elite101> click on it
[03:10] <elite101> or "/join #elite101-help"
[03:10] <elite101> type it in and press enter
[03:11] <sanzanric> did anybody ever helped kubuntunewbie install pidgin?
[03:18] <genii> sanzanric: Looks like not
[03:19] <maria> hi everyone
[03:19] <ivan> genii: my computer fucked up and had to restart what was te url?
[03:21] <genii> ivan: Ah, OK :)
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> !ohmy
[03:21] <spi> stop
[03:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:21] <spi> q
[03:21] <genii> !pastebin | ivan
[03:21] <ubotu> ivan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:21] <adenicio> spi lol
[03:21] <elite101> !adept
[03:21] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:21] <elite101> wtf?
[03:21] <elite101> !adept | broken
[03:21] <ubotu> broken: please see above
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[03:22] <elite101> why isnt it showing the command line ?
[03:22] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:22] <elite101> thanks
[03:22] <maria> I can't start kde
[03:22] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i cant get true to read your name
[03:22] <elite101> adenicio, there you go: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:23] <maria> after I login whit kdm, kdm sart another time
[03:23] <maria> can anybody help me?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> maria: any errors?
[03:23] <maria> no nosrednaekim nothing
[03:23] <genius> como entrar al chanel en espaol
[03:23] <maria> nosrednaekim: just kdm starts again
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:23] <maria> genius: debe ser algo asi como #kubuntu-es
[03:24] <ivan> genii: posted
[03:24] <genius> gracias!!
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> maria: how did you install kde?
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> ivan: link pls
[03:24] <adenicio> !ohmy / elite101
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy / elite101 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <maria> ~osrednaekim: whit kubuntu 7.04
[03:24] <genii> ivan: Ok, please put here the URL pastebin gave you
[03:24] <adenicio> !ohmy
[03:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:24] <adenicio> lol
[03:25] <ivan> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35621/
[03:25] <genii> ivan: Thanks.Reading
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> maria: this is a fresh installation?
[03:25] <maria> nosrednaekim: yes
[03:25] <sanzanric> !ohmy |adenicio
[03:25] <ubotu> adenicio: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:25] <Jucato> !botabuse
[03:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:25] <maria> nosrednaekim: but I have no problem for severals weeks
[03:25] <elite101> :P
[03:25] <adenicio> sanzanric: how do u do the line?
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> maria: did you do any updates, or change anything?
[03:26] <sanzanric> what are we talking about?
[03:26] <genii> hmm
[03:26] <genii> !info compiz-decorator
[03:26] <ubotu> Package compiz-decorator does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:26] <adenicio> sanzanric:  #offtopic
[03:26] <maria> nosrednaekim: yes, the upgrade "automatics" (sorry about me english)
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> the automatic upgrades, or the program automatix?
[03:27] <maria> nosrednaekim: NO with automatix
[03:27] <anon32> heh
[03:27] <elite101> !offtopic | adenicio
[03:27] <ubotu> adenicio: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:27] <sanzanric> adenicio: i just joined the conversation.
[03:27] <maria> nosrednaekim: whit the program that advice you about the upgrades
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> Not with automatix, so with the adept updater?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> maria: ah.. ok.
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> maria: you are on a different computer now?
[03:28] <maria> yes adept updater
[03:28] <adenicio> elite101: tanks but it was for sanzanric
[03:28] <adenicio> lol
[03:28] <elite101> lol
[03:28] <sanzanric> elite101: thanks
[03:28] <maria> no, I do control f1 alt
[03:28] <elite101> np :P i always wanted to do that
[03:28] <adenicio> lol
[03:29] <adenicio> !play
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about play - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> maria: so you are on the command line?
[03:29] <Jucato> adenicio: please stop playing with the bot
[03:29] <maria> nosrednaekim: yes, cli
[03:29] <sanzanric> lol
[03:29] <adenicio> Jucato: i was just about to say that lol
[03:29] <maria> nosrednaekim: sorry for be unclear when I write
[03:29] <elite101> adenicio, why dont you tell them what video and website you wanna get working?
[03:29] <genii> ivan: I think you may find help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2927742
[03:30] <elite101> :P hhahhaa
[03:30] <adenicio> elite101: lol u crayzy
[03:30] <elite101> :P
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> maria: ok, run these two commands "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" and then "startkde" and see what error message it gives you.
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> maria: its fin :)
[03:30] <maria> I'm must sound like Yoda, jajaj
[03:30] <genii> ivan: Are you using the amd64 ubuntu?
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> *its fine
[03:30] <adenicio> elite101: u want me get my butt kick like last time
[03:30] <maria> nosrednaekim: thanks!
[03:30] <elite101> lol really?
[03:30] <elite101> u got kicked
[03:31] <maria> what "fin" means?
[03:31] <ivan> genii: thinkso amd64 kubuntu
[03:31] <elite101> :\ wouldnt blame em'
[03:31] <maria> oh
[03:31] <adenicio> elite101:  stdin lol at me :-D
[03:31] <genii> ivan: I thought so. Then that link is correct for you.
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> maria: not the spanish fin... lol
[03:31] <ivan> genii: thats for gnome isnt it??
[03:32] <elite101> for me it shows "<grin.>? when u do something it shows grin and in between <>?
[03:32] <elite101> probably because of this nIRC
[03:32] <ivan> genii: where do i fing the trevinos repositories??
[03:32] <genii> ivan: For both. Just they are using gksudo gedit there which is for gnome. Use instead kdesu kate wherever it says gksudo gedit. that is all
[03:33] <ivan> gedii: where i find the trevinos repositories??
[03:33] <genii> ivan: At the bottom of that page is what to add to your /etc/apt/sources.list   (the trevino repositories URLs etc)
[03:33] <adenicio> elite101: look wa i did in #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:33] <elite101> adenicio, i *DONT* hope you get your problem fixed but only for youtube purpose's ;)
[03:33] <maria> nosrednaekim: I got it
[03:34] <ivan> gedii: oh ok i got those
[03:34] <elite101> wait
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> maria: whats the error?
[03:34] <maria> nosrednaekim: there was no left space on device
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> maria: you are out of room on your hard drive..
[03:34] <sanzanric> maria
[03:34] <adenicio> elite101: lol kiss a**
[03:34] <maria> yes sanzanric
[03:34] <maria> sanzanric: tell me
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> !ohmy | adenicio
[03:34] <ubotu> adenicio: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:34] <elite101> !language | adenicio
[03:35] <elite101> mhm u beat me :(
[03:35] <adenicio> lol
[03:35] <sanzanric> nosrdnaekim said it before i could
[03:35] <Jucato> !offtopic
[03:35] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:35] <genii> ivan: After you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list  file to add those entries, do: sudo apt-get update   than fater try once more to install compiz-fusion
[03:35] <adenicio> lol
[03:35] <genii> *fater=after
[03:35] <elite101> :P
[03:35] <anon32> say what? what'd he do?
[03:36] <ivan> genii: ok thganks ill try that
[03:36] <elite101> flooded offtopic channel
[03:36] <adenicio> who?
[03:36] <elite101> how did u get back on?
[03:36] <elite101> :\
[03:36] <adenicio> ah ok thats why it disapaere
[03:36] <sanzanric> did kubuntunewbie ever was able to install pidgin
[03:36] <genii> ivan: I'll be here for another couple hours if you have difficulty/errors/concerns
[03:36] <adenicio> i dont know i i got back on
[03:36] <Jucato> again please stop the offtopic chatter. take it to #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> maria: you need to clear some space on your hard drive
[03:36] <ivan> genii: ok thanks man
[03:37] <adenicio> lol
[03:37] <genii> sanzanric: Not that I'm aware of yet :)
[03:38] <genii> kubuntunewbie: You still there?
[03:38] <sanzanric> now i'm am
[03:39] <Jucato> genii: that's trademarked!!!
[03:39] <Jucato> er.. no, it's missing the word "long"...
[03:39] <genii> Jucato: LOL
[03:39] <Tm_T> Jucato: and pointy
[03:39] <Jucato> oh yeah...
[03:39] <sanzanric> lol
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> hobsee was using that in your absence,.,,
[03:39] <sanzanric> too bad
[03:40] <Jucato> that's her trademark actually. :)
[03:40] <genii> Jucato: Better?
[03:40] <genii> heh
[03:40] <zakame> hehe
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:40] <zakame> officer Jucato indeed
[03:40] <adenicio> Jucato: offtopic
[03:40] <Jucato> :P
[03:41] <adenicio> !offtopic
[03:41] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:41] <sanzanric> seriously
[03:41] <genii> sanzanric: Did you ask about pidgin because you need to know how to install it as well?
[03:41] <vers> how can i get rid of ktorrent but keep kubuntu-desktop
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> vers: just uninstall ktorrent, it just uninstalls the meta-package "kubuntu-desktop" right?
[03:42] <sanzanric> genii: no, i was the one who suggested that we install from sourece
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> doe sit uninstall a whole buch of other stuff?
[03:43] <adenicio> Jucato: u look intelegent can u help me in the domain of flash for konqueror?
[03:43] <vers> i hve no idea...sorry for the trouble but im new at this
[03:43] <genii> sanzanric: A better way, http://repository.debuntu.org/ add the repo as it has on the link in contents area, then apt-get update   then install with whatever package manager
[03:43] <Jucato> adenicio: what's the problem?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: you have been complemented..
[03:43] <sanzanric> genii: i've realized
[03:43] <Jucato> er flattered
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> vers: when you tel it to remove ktorrent, it tells you that it will remove kubuntu-desktop, right?
[03:44] <vers> yup
[03:44] <sanzanric> big hammer or something...
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> vers: anything else it says it will remove?
[03:44] <vers> no
[03:44] <adenicio> Jucato: on a website the flash video arent playing anymore with konqueror but it plays youtube videos
[03:44] <genii> *studious
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> vers: then its fine:)
[03:44] <genii> bleh
[03:44] <vers> nice...
[03:45] <Jucato> adenicio: is that the only website where flash isn't working?
[03:45] <chad_> Hi...I was wondering if someone could help me with k9copy.  When I try to launch it I get an error box that states "The application k9copy crash and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[03:46] <ivan> genii: ok now i installed it how do o make it work??
[03:46] <adenicio> Jucato: i dont know the other website like it got hacked and close down
[03:46] <adenicio> Jucato: on the website the video playing but no image just the sound
[03:47] <Jucato> but youtube works ok?
[03:47] <sanzanric> g2g
[03:47] <genii> ivan:  I hate to point you to another URL, but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[03:48] <genii> chad_: If you need some dvd9 to dvd5 utility I suggest instead dvd95
[03:49] <chad_> genii, I would like to have something that can rip a dvd and shrink it in 1 step which I heard k9copy can do
[03:49] <adenicio> Jucato: now if i got on this website http://final-mangas-fantasy.oldiblog.com/ theres a little chat down but its not there,but if i got with firefox its there.the little box with the chat
[03:49] <chad_> can dvd95 also do that?
[03:49] <genii> yup
[03:49] <Jucato> adenicio: wait let me verify
[03:49] <chad_> genii, is that a native linux app?
[03:50] <chad_> have you had good success with it?
[03:50] <genii> chad_: Yes, there is a package for it
[03:50] <chad_> okay, is it pretty simple to use?
[03:50] <chad_> i'm still learning my way around
[03:50] <chad_> looking for something to replace dvd decrypter and dvdshrink on my windoze box
[03:50] <genii> chad_: Yes, pretty simple. I use it with k3b to shrink and make copies of my DVD
[03:51] <chad_> gen
[03:51] <chad_> genii, so do you rip it first with k3b then shrink it?
[03:52] <genii> chad_: Yes
[03:52] <chad_> genii, i installed k3b but it made no sense to me unfortunately
[03:53] <adenicio> Jucato: the website i give u it doesnt have the chat box with konqueror
[03:53] <genii> chad_: k3b ... Tools...Rip Video DVD
[03:53] <genii> chad_: Pretty simple :)
[03:53] <adenicio> Jucato: only with firefox.its like im missing some plugin for flash etc
[03:53] <chad_> genii, sorry. I was thinking of the wrong app. I was thinking of acid rip
[03:53] <chad_> k3b does looks fairly straight forward
[03:54] <chad_> genii, have you ran into problems with any of the newer copy protected dvds?
[03:54] <Jucato> adenicio: the chat box showed up for a few seconds in Konqueror but then disappeared. Unfortunately, the site isn't probably compatible with Konqueror. I don't think it's a Flash problemeither
[03:55] <genii> chad_: Generally I buy second hand ones from the renatl place. No problems yet.
[03:55] <genii> *rental
[03:55] <chad_> genii, i usually do the same to try to save a few bucks
[03:55] <vers> how do i make dulge my default torrent DLer
[03:55] <adenicio> Jucato: well anyway the other website is a flash problem because its videos i want to watch online.it work once then poof nothing
[03:55] <chad_> genii, I will try that out and see how it goes. thank you for the advice!
[03:56] <genii> chad_: np
[03:56] <chad_> take care all...
[03:57] <ivan> genii: i alrady opened the compiz config table but there are no effects taking place
[03:59] <genii> ivan: At this point I have not much more help for you :( I don't use compiz-fusion myself. You may get some more useful advice in the channel #ubuntu-effects
[04:00] <ivan> genii: ok thanks man, but why dont you use it>>
[04:00] <genii> ivan: Running already some unstable stuff :) gutsy+kde4 for example
[04:01] <genii> intelikey: Or coffee, as you prefer :)
[04:01] <ivan> genii: how do they looke like??
[04:01] <intelikey> !!!! genii what happened to the coffee ???
[04:01] <intelikey> :)
[04:02] <genii> intelikey: cofee=for work. beer= for home and relaxing
[04:02] <genii> ivan: kde4 keeps crashing on me. But it looks good so far.
[04:02] <intelikey> actually i don't drink either,  not that it matters  ;/
[04:03] <ivan> genii: do you have screenshots or youtube vids??
[04:04] <genii> ivan: Nah
[04:04] <intelikey> perhaps water
[04:04] <genii> intelikey: I'll remember next time
[04:04] <ivan> genii: do they have similar effects as compiz??
[04:05] <genii> ivan: I have some transparency effects on my desktop. But nothing like rotating cubes etc
[04:06] <sumguy231> From what I can see, KDE4 takes a far more practical approach to desktop compositing. And I like it that way.
[04:06] <sumguy231> Compiz is great and all, but if you step back and look at it, a lot of it doesn't seem necessary.
[04:07] <ivan> genii: are u a developer??
[04:07] <genii> ivan: No. although I am considering some contribution back to ubuntu/kubuntu in that way. For now I just give help here and in #ubuntu
[04:09] <genii> sumguy231: I've always liked keeping my desktop minimalistic with perhaps some cool things here or there. I'm not into the entire thing of going nuts on effects etc
[04:10] <sumguy231> Oops. Anyway, I agree.
[04:10] <sumguy231> I would actually be happy if I could just get real transparency without bothering with the rest of compiz.
[04:11] <NickPresta> sumguy231, I disagree with your opinion of Compiz being "unnecessary".
[04:11] <NickPresta> Compiz is actually aids in productivity.
[04:11] <NickPresta> remove is >_>
[04:11] <Ahmuck> NickPresta: i don't.
[04:12] <drif> NickPresta: in which ways?
[04:12] <sumguy231> Nickpresta: Some of it is unnecessary, some isn't. The expose type thing is an example of something which actually has use, as is the zoom feature.
[04:13] <NickPresta> heh. Sorry Jucato, you're right.
[04:13] <sumguy231> Yeah, yeah. Fine.
[04:14] <drif> ..and then no one ever actually continues on subject there..
[04:15] <NickPresta> To illustrate my point: http://pastebin.ca/675390
[04:15] <intelikey> drif that's probably because the only one that really wanted to talk about * is the one that went there...   and the rest were releaved...   ?
[04:15] <NickPresta> That's all I will say on it.
[04:16] <sumguy231> But nick, that just illustrates my point as well. :)
[04:16] <xjkx> could anyone make thunderbird read hotmail?
[04:17] <xjkx> i tried with hotwayd+wemail extension but didnt work
[04:17] <sumguy231> Not without said extension, as far as I know.
[04:18] <xjkx> sumguy231: but you could do with this extension?
[04:18] <xjkx> you could make it work? here it does not
[04:18] <intelikey> xjkx i dumped hotmail when the changed their EULA to include that they could read your main and publish your address...
[04:18] <intelikey> mail even
[04:18] <sumguy231> Nah, I've never tried it. Maybe it's about time to switch to a webmail service which gives you free POP access... *Cough*GMail*Cough*
[04:19] <xjkx> uhm. i dont use it. i use gmail. its my father's work-email :s
[04:19] <sumguy231> Ah, fair enough.
[04:19] <xjkx> he has two hotmails
[04:19] <ivan> genii: oh ok, hey no one helps in ubuntu effects
[04:21] <genii> ivan: That sucks.
[04:22] <intelikey> genii phone number "br549"  ?
[04:22] <flaccid> gmail should give imap access for a few dollars a year
[04:22] <ivan> genii: i know they dont know crao
[04:23] <dwidmann_> flaccid: agreed, I think I'd switch to them if they did
[04:23] <flaccid> it would be really good yes :)
[04:23] <genii> ivan: Did you try the alt+f2  then put: compiz --replace              ?
[04:24] <genii> intelikey: I dunno that one :) Usually for annoying forms i put the long-distance information telephone number,eg: 555-1212
[04:26] <dwidmann_> genii: I live on 123 wonderful lane, and my phone number is 123-4567 :)
[04:26] <genii> dwidmann_: It sounds idyllic :)
[04:28] <dwidmann_> Oh, it is
[04:28] <drif> genii: so 555 really exists :D I thought just something hollywood had to come up with
[04:28] <dwidmann_> I feel sorry for anyone with a 555 phone number, especially whoever got stuck with 5555.
[04:28] <ubuntu> hello peoples
[04:28] <dwidmann_> hiya
[04:28] <NickPresta> !hi | ubuntu
[04:28] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:29] <ubuntu> >.>
[04:29] <ubuntu> lol
[04:29] <intelikey> 911-0606   :)
[04:29] <ubuntu> i just got a quick question so i can not blow up my computer
[04:29] <dwidmann_> Darn, no explosives today? That's no fun
[04:30] <intelikey> ubuntu if you don't want to blow it up,  don't pack it full of C4
[04:30] <ubuntu> should i make my "user partition" a primary partition or an extended partition
[04:30] <genii> drif: Yeah you can call any long distance operator for whatever area code by: 0-(area code)-555-1212
[04:30] <dwidmann_> ubuntu: won't make a lick of difference.
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: "user"? do you mean /home?
[04:30] <dwidmann_> As far as linux is concerned, you can throw everything in the extended partition (including boot and root and it won't even care)
[04:30] <intelikey> ubuntu linux couldn't care less if it even has a partition
[04:30] <ubuntu> yes
[04:30] <ubuntu> home
[04:31] <mneptok> ubuntu: you can only have 4 primary partitions per physical device
[04:31] <mneptok> bear that in mind
[04:31] <ubuntu> im just wondering which is better
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> if you don;t already have 4 partitions.. primary is better
[04:31] <ubuntu> in case i mess up mdadm by touching xorg.conf again
[04:31] <mneptok> intelikey: yes you do
[04:32] <intelikey> mneptok wana bet ?
[04:32] <mneptok> intelikey: everyone does
[04:32] <intelikey> wrong
[04:32] <mneptok> intelikey: you have no hard disk?
[04:32] <ubuntu> this time ill have the os in the 10 gb part and all my other stuff in the other part
[04:32] <genii> maybe he just has premonitions instead
[04:32] <intelikey> mneptok yes i have hd  but no partitions
[04:32] <anon32> Quick question: how can I change the icon for all files of a certain type?
[04:32] <ubuntu> so i should just have 2 primarys ok
[04:32] <mneptok> intelikey: you do have partitions. they may span the whole drive, but they are there.
[04:32] <intelikey> mneptok no i dont
[04:32] <dwidmann_> intelikey: that sounds interesting, please do explain
[04:33] <ubuntu> another question, what format, ext2 ext3 or any of the others?
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: ext3
[04:33] <mneptok> intelikey: it is impossible to install Linux on raw media
[04:33] <dwidmann_> ubuntu: ext3 will work nicely
[04:33] <genii> ext3 is a good choice
[04:33] <NickPresta> ubuntu, ext3 is reliable and commonly used
[04:33] <intelikey> dwidmann_ just mke2fs /dev/hda  or /dev/sda  or what ever the disk is...
[04:33] <ubuntu> whats the difference, just so i know
[04:33] <mneptok> intelikey: ext3 has to format something. that something is a partition.
[04:33] <intelikey> mneptok nope
[04:34] <mneptok> intelikey: that makes a partition
[04:34] <dwidmann_> intelikey: so what does fdisk -l output?
[04:34] <ubuntu> maybe, he uses someone elses computer, therefore technically he dont have partitions
[04:34] <intelikey> mneptok no it doesn't.  and if you get tired makind a fool of your self you might actually learn something
[04:34] <mneptok> intelikey: ahem
[04:34] <intelikey> dwidmann_ nothing
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: ext2 will not keep a journal, so,if you hard power down.. it can mess up your system
[04:35] <ubuntu> ick
[04:35] <ubuntu> what is xfs?
[04:35] <ubuntu> i know what fat and ntfs is
[04:35] <NickPresta> !xfs
[04:35] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[04:35] <intelikey> dwidmann_ full output of fdisk -l  ran as root  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39282
[04:35] <genii> The ubotu knows (almost) all
[04:35] <ubuntu> !jfs
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <ubuntu> ....
[04:36] <dwidmann_> genii: ubotu would say he knows enough
[04:36] <ubuntu> what about jfs
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> not sure about that..
[04:36] <ubuntu> hmmmm
[04:36] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions | pastebin
[04:36] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39283
[04:36] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~] 
[04:36] <ubuntu> so xfs willl probably blow up my comp
[04:36] <dwidmann_> jfs was developed by ibm IIRC.
[04:36] <mneptok> intelikey: sudo parted
[04:36] <mneptok> intelikey: "print"
[04:36] <mneptok> mhat do you get?
[04:36] <mneptok> *what
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: just stick with ext3, its simpler and safe.
[04:36] <dwidmann_> ubuntu: xfs hasn't blown up mine yet?
[04:36] <intelikey> mneptok look at the last post
[04:37] <ubuntu> ok ext3 simply safe
[04:37] <mneptok> intelikey: exactlry what is wa\s telling you
[04:37] <mneptok> intelikey: you made all of sda a partition
[04:37] <intelikey> there is no partition
[04:37] <mneptok> and that's exactly what your paste tells you
[04:37] <intelikey> look at the pastebin
[04:38] <mneptok> intelikey: the fact it list *anything* from /proc/partitions should tell you something
[04:38] <ubuntu> how big should my os partition be?
[04:38] <ubuntu> 10 gb enough?
[04:38] <mneptok> there is something in /proc/partitions/
[04:38] <mneptok> guess what it is?
[04:38] <ubuntu> a partition?
[04:39] <mneptok> *gasp* a PARTITION!
[04:39] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, 10 GB should be fine. Depends on how big the disk is
[04:39] <ubuntu> like 74 gb
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: I'd make it 15 if you have plenty of room
[04:39] <ubuntu> ok 15
[04:39] <intelikey> ok you have earned the ignor button    mneptok not many people are as ignorant as you   only a few have earned that button.
[04:39] <mneptok> intelikey: /whois mneptok
[04:39] <Dragnslcr> mneptok- my /proc/partitions lists both disks and partitions
[04:39] <mneptok> intelikey: before you start labelling me an idiot, you might want to know with whom you are speaking.
[04:40] <ubuntu> kurt von finck?
[04:40] <mneptok> Dragnslcr: yup, because /partitions will consider a drive as a device if it holds a partition table it can understand.
[04:40] <dwidmann_> Sorry Kurt, never heard of ya ;)
[04:40] <ubuntu> ok im going 15 gb
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: is this having windows on it?
[04:40] <ubuntu> whats a good way to upgrade from dapper to fiesty?
[04:41] <ubuntu> oh hell no
[04:41] <ubuntu> i hate windows
[04:41] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- very carefully
[04:41] <dwidmann_> nosrednaekim: who in their right mind would poison their system with that?
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: you have to go from dapper to edgy to fiesty
[04:41] <ubuntu> i know
[04:41] <mneptok> ubuntu: you can dist-upgrade from one release to the next
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann_: hey.. people have wacky ideas
[04:41] <ubuntu> so it would be sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:41] <intelikey> nosrednaekim you said it.
[04:41] <flaccid> you can go from dapper to feisty
[04:42] <flaccid> i've done it 3 times
[04:42] <dwidmann_> nosrednaekim: those people must be in their left mind and therefore don't count :s
[04:42] <ubuntu> id rather go edgy then to fiesty
[04:42] <ubuntu> i did it once a long time ago
[04:42] <intelikey> :)
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: hey... do you have any serial ports hooked up to something?
[04:42] <ubuntu> and i cant remember how i did it
[04:42] <Dragnslcr> !dist-upgrade
[04:42] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:42] <intelikey> nosrednaekim no  not on this box
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: ah ok.. NM
[04:42] <intelikey> nosrednaekim why ?
[04:42] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- there should be some decent instructions there
[04:42] <mneptok> ubuntu: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all instances of "dapper" with "edgy" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: trying to help someone else out with a problem with their serial ports.
[04:43] <mneptok> ubuntu: then do the same from edgy to feisty
[04:43] <ubuntu> oki i get it, something said it was a bad idea to use sudo apt-get but i unno
[04:43] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ummm module loaded ?
[04:43] <dwidmann_> mneptok: ubuntu: and then you cross your fingers and hope nothing screwed up too bad
[04:43] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- you normally have to use sudo for apt-get
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: indeed... he's a gentoo user.. he know about that sort of thing ;)
[04:43] <ubuntu> no i mean  it  says i should use adept
[04:44] <mneptok> dwidmann_: we've done a lot betterl with Edgy>Feisty
[04:44] <intelikey> nosrednaekim k  then what is the issue ?
[04:44] <ubuntu> or the one for gnome which i dont use  cause i got kde
[04:44] <mneptok> -l
[04:44] <ubuntu> ok i got swap and 2 primarys, i think im ready to go
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: lol, we're not sure... it doesn't seem to recognize his serial ports. (although dmesg says they are detected)
[04:45] <intelikey> nosrednaekim what kind of device is attached ?
[04:45] <ubuntu> i should tell it to use the biggest one to mounth /home correct
[04:45] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- normally, yeah
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: yeah
[04:45] <ubuntu> ok making sure im not gonna totally screw it up
[04:45] <dwidmann_> serial ports ... how ancient
[04:45] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu- 15 GB for /, 2 GB for swap, and the rest for /home should work well
[04:46] <nosrednaekim> ach... AVR programming requires it.
[04:46] <ubuntu> i only got 500 mb for swap
[04:46] <ubuntu> i used to have 2 gb, but it never used it i dont think
[04:46] <Dragnslcr> How much RAM do you have?
[04:46] <ubuntu> 1024 mb
[04:46] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'd go with 2 GB
[04:46] <ubuntu> ok
[04:46] <Dragnslcr> Disk space is dirt cheap these days anyway
[04:46] <intelikey> nosrednaekim does he have something like a seriol mouse he can use for testing ?
[04:47] <nosrednaekim> I can ask :)
[04:47] <Dragnslcr> You can always just pick up an extra 500 GB drive
[04:47] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: oh crap... he left the channel.
[04:47] <nosrednaekim> NM :)
[04:47] <ubuntu> im using a laptop
[04:47] <intelikey> nosrednaekim heh   ok.
[04:47] <Dragnslcr> USB drives are just as cheap
[04:48] <ubuntu> i heard horror stories about em
[04:48] <drif> horror+
[04:48] <drif> ?
[04:48] <ubuntu> about them crashing aot
[04:48] <ubuntu> alot
[04:48] <Dragnslcr> Of course, I don't use laptops, so I can just pile on more disks
[04:48] <mneptok> ubuntu: if you might need to add storage, set up LVM
[04:48] <ubuntu> lvm?
[04:48] <intelikey> most hd's i've had in one box is 8
[04:48] <mneptok> Linux Volume Management
[04:49] <mneptok> easy drive spanning
[04:49] <ubuntu> and how is that done? now or when i need to add storage?
[04:49] <mneptok> the partitioner in the alternate install lets you set up LVMs
[04:49] <ubuntu> i think
[04:49] <mneptok> you need to define the LVM during initial installation
[04:49] <mneptok> then add to it later
[04:50] <ubuntu> ill just get this thing that will let me use ide drives and stick em on my network and use them as extra storage
[04:50] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: SLUG :)
[04:50] <ubuntu> .....what ever works lol
[04:51] <ubuntu> i dont forsee me needing extra space
[04:51] <drif> nosrednaekim: those are handy :) I have a few
[04:51] <ubuntu> and if i do ill just go buy a usb external
[04:51] <nosrednaekim> indeed... my brother wants one really bad.
[04:51] <drif> nosrednaekim: actually my irssi is running on one as we speak :)
[04:51] <ubuntu> ok....wish me luck...and hopefully ill have fiesty kubuntu in a few hours
[04:52] <intelikey> what ?   SLUG ?
[04:52] <drif> intelikey: yup
[04:52] <kubuntunewbie> Could someone please teach me how to install a program from the source file?
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> drif: lol... my brother runs irssi on out Linksys router..
[04:52] <ubuntu> oh hey, does it matter where the partitions are?
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> *our
[04:52] <ubuntu> like in the order
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> genii: kubuntunewbie is back......
[04:52] <ubuntu> i got swap then root then home
[04:52] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim: is that a bad thing?
[04:52] <intelikey> ubuntu only thing that comes into play there is that bios needs to be able to read your kernel
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> lol.. no.. he was looking for you though
[04:52] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: well, first you need to install the dependencies, afterwards it's usually as simple as ./configure && make && sudo make install
[04:52] <ubuntu> so?
[04:52] <drif> intelikey: doesn't consume too much power when left running 24/7, and virtually no noise at all
[04:53] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: it doesn't really matter
[04:53] <ubuntu> ok
[04:53] <ubuntu> lol
[04:53] <ubuntu> im not really retarted
[04:53] <ubuntu> just wanna be cautious
[04:53] <kubuntunewbie> dwidmann_: i got the dependencies downloaded already but what do i do from there?
[04:53] <intelikey> drif nice.
[04:53] <nosrednaekim> you sure ;)?
[04:53] <ubuntu> >.>
[04:53] <ubuntu> <.<
[04:53] <ubuntu> >.<
[04:53] <ubuntu> i think
[04:53] <ubuntu> lol
[04:53] <nosrednaekim> ^.^
[04:53] <intelikey> V~V
[04:53] <ubuntu> oki bai bai im off to my technological adventure
[04:53] <Jucato> O.o
[04:54] <ubuntu> when i return, ill be dranas
[04:54] <ubuntu> >.>
[04:54] <ubuntu> lol
[04:54] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: pull up a terminal, cd into the source directory, and run ./configure
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: you have the tar.gz?
[04:54] <kubuntunewbie> yes i have the tar.gz
[04:55] <dwidmann_> You can extract the tar file with "tar xf *tar.gz"
[04:55] <drif> intelikey: uptime 487 days ;)
[04:55] <dwidmann_> drif: impressive
[04:55] <drif> dwidmann_: was my bad actually, forgot to attach into UPS when I had just moved in
[04:55] <intelikey> yeah is that the totals from several or actually one box  :)
[04:56] <kubuntunewbie> the file i have is pidgin-2.1.1.tar.bz2
[04:56] <kubuntunewbie> whats a bz2 file?
[04:56] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: ah, bzip2 compressed, it's a bit better than gzip but it's slower
[04:57] <dwidmann_> so, "tar xf pidgin-2.1.1.tar.bz2"
[04:57] <intelikey> better ?    higher compression on some things  slower on all    not sure that == better...
[04:57] <kubuntunewbie> dwidmann_: ahh great, i extracted it
[04:57] <dwidmann_> intelikey: very impressive on text compression IIRC
[04:58] <intelikey> yes plain text gets better compression  but takes longer
[04:58] <drif> intelikey: never heard of networked uptime :D but yeah, single tiny box
[04:58] <kubuntunewbie> wow, i wish i knew as much about this OS as you guys.  Did it take you guys a long time?  Is there a good book i should get?
[04:59] <dwidmann_> intelikey: I don't mind the taking longer ... my slowest computer is either this desktop with the fx-60 or my laptop with it's C2D t7200, depending on if the laptop is on battery or not :P
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: I didn;t read a book, but yeah.. there are books
[05:00] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim: to be honest, i hate books, i never read them in college and i dont want to start now, but i sorta feel bad pestering people in this chat room all the time
[05:00] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: didn't really take all that long really. I learned the bulk of what I "had to know" in 3 months or less.
[05:00] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: haha... its ok, I don't think we mind
[05:00] <kubuntunewbie> dwidmann_: 3 months isnt bad at all, im 5 days into it.  Doing okay so far
[05:01] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: if you want to avoid irc rooms (which you don't have to, we don't care), google and the man command are your friend.
[05:01] <intelikey> kubuntunewbie we don't read your text either so it doesn't matter   :)
[05:01] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: hahahaha
[05:02] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: anyway.... so you got it untarred right?
[05:02] <elite101> hello
[05:02] <elite101> lol still installing pidgin?
[05:02] <kubuntunewbie> are the cd commands for konsole anything like the ones for MS Dos?
[05:02] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: I think so.
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> except "dir" is replaced by "ls"
[05:03] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: the basic linux commands put those of dos to shame :D
[05:04] <elite101> no not rele i love to make NetSend messenager with Bat files (using notepad)
[05:04] <intelikey> dwidman_ true dat
[05:04] <kubuntunewbie> dwidmann_: im well aware of that, i can already tell you can do 10x from linux commands then what you could do from dos
[05:04] <elite101> for dos but to bad i cant make em in kubuntu :(
[05:04] <kubuntunewbie> net send, ahhhh the good old days
[05:04] <intelikey> elite101 why can't you ?
[05:05] <intelikey> telnet client ?
[05:06] <kubuntunewbie> could someone please tell me how to make konqueror stop displaying ...entered the server and ... left this server messages?  i have tried settings and cant find it
[05:07] <elite101> ohh
[05:07] <elite101> i cant make .bat files ?
[05:07] <intelikey> kubuntunewbie isn't there a check box in that message window that letes you disable feature messages of the kind ?
[05:07] <elite101> its a :BASH console not a Dosprompt
[05:07] <elite101> so i cant even make any bat files to run in konsole or anything i do in CMD into konsole
[05:08] <intelikey> elite101 sh can exec .bat   just that the syntax is a little different
[05:08] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: what message window? i dont see any check boxes
[05:08] <elite101> mhm i could try it? but i dont think if i run the Netsend messenger to my friends pc it will pickup the message?
[05:08] <intelikey> elite101 anything you can type into a konsole you can put in a plain text file and execute it
[05:08] <elite101> since he has windows
[05:09] <intelikey> and linux cares not about .ext
[05:09] <elite101> well im on DSL and i might beable to score a p4 900Mhz and change the cpu to a 1.7Ghz-2.4Ghz hopefully tomarrow i can get the PC its a sony vaio
[05:09] <elite101> my HDD burnt out and im runnin a computer equal to a cellphone
[05:09] <kubuntunewbie> im thinking of picking up a 3 or 400 buck computer from tigerdirect.com to load linux on
[05:10] <elite101> about 32k of ram and 33Mhz
[05:10] <kubuntunewbie> computers got cheap
[05:10] <elite101> ;) dsl runs slow on it
[05:10] <kubuntunewbie> elite101: 33mhz are u serious?
[05:10] <intelikey> Memory Used/Total Percent: 8/242 MB (3%)
[05:10] <intelikey> Swap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)
[05:10] <elite101> yeah gigabyte board (not sure model#?) 185$ Nvidia 7900GTX onboard
[05:11] <elite101> lolz i have 17.2m/313-10%
[05:11] <elite101> sorry thats wrong i mean
[05:11] <elite101> 1sec
[05:11] <elite101> 17.8-313-8% swap 0/0-%
[05:12] <elite101> file sys 2.3M/2.9M
[05:12] <elite101> i dont know what that means but thats my DSL "specs"
[05:12] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39285
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> ok, bye all!
[05:12] <elite101> lol i have to underclock my computer or else firefox wont run not even a 22Mhz increase :(
[05:12] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: settings -> configure  -> chat window if you meant konversation
[05:14] <elite101> intelikey? is that a program u made to display swap/ram usuage?
[05:14] <elite101> :S
[05:14] <elite101> on ur pastebin
[05:14] <intelikey> kubuntunewbie when the message window pops up telling you that you are leaving a secure host    there (at least used to be) a check box there that you can turn that type messages off
[05:15] <intelikey> elite101 yep
[05:15] <elite101> wow cool :)
[05:15] <elite101> how hard was it?
[05:15] <intelikey> real easy
[05:15] <elite101> now i have one question i have a psp and it can run any code on it, i was wondering if i can use Python to make a custom firmware on the psp? or do something ? is it possible
[05:15] <intelikey> took me about 5 minutes i guess for the rough draft and i probably spent 10 minutes testing and cleaning it up.
[05:16] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: i dont think we are talking about the same thing
[05:16] <elite101> lol nice
[05:16] <intelikey> kubuntunewbie oh...  ok what were you talking about ?
[05:16] <elite101> i wanted to make a custom firmware usuing pythom for my psp
[05:16] <elite101> sory to be in the way
[05:17] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: when people enter or leave this IRC channel it comes up in purple that so and so joined or so and so left this channel, and it kinda spams up my shizznit... i have been looking for a way to make it not anounce that but i cant find it
[05:17] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: settings -> configure  -> chat window if you meant konversation
[05:17] <intelikey> elite101 you are out of my realm there.   sorry
[05:17] <elite101> ahh ic
[05:17] <elite101> well can python code things?
[05:17] <elite101> like GUI/Firmwares?
[05:17] <kubuntunewbie> dwidmann_: im in there but i dont see where it allows me to not see the enter/exit messages
[05:17] <bobby> Have there been any fork projects specifically for laptop installs yet?
[05:17] <intelikey> kubuntunewbie oh that's irc   i though you said konqueror     heh  sorry
[05:17] <flaccid> elite101: offtopic
[05:18] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: should be an option for hiding part/join/etc events
[05:18] <elite101> how?
[05:18] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: i may have said konqueror, i did pop an xannax about 20 minutes ago and am a bit ditzy
[05:18] <intelikey> elite101 probably need  C  for that.
[05:18] <elite101> mhm yeah
[05:18] <Jucato> kubuntunewbie: you're using Konversation?
[05:18] <flaccid> um try #python ?
[05:18] <kubuntunewbie> Jucato: sure am
[05:19] <Jucato> kubuntunewbie:  Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior group -> Chat Window -> Hide Join/Part/Nick events
[05:19] <kubuntunewbie> dwidmann_: ahhhhhh great that works yeah ty Jucato that worked
[05:19] <kubuntunewbie> well i assume it worked
[05:19] <kubuntunewbie> i have not seen join/left thus far
[05:19] <Jucato> there, someone just left and went back in
[05:20] <kubuntunewbie> didnt see that
[05:20] <kubuntunewbie> greeeat!
[05:20] <Jucato> works then
[05:20] <kubuntunewbie> ty
 could someone please tell me how to make konqueror stop  displaying ...entered the server and ... left this server  messages? <<< kubuntunewbie sorry it's hard for us to answer things like that when that's not what you are really asking   :)
[05:21] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: yup, im kinda mashed right now, 2 beers and 2 xannax, not exactly paying much attention to detail.
[05:21] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: bah, excuses excuses :P
[05:21] <Jucato> although it might be those details that could help us help you :)
[05:22] <kubuntunewbie> yeah, sorry bout that
[05:23] <kubuntunewbie> how would i go about checking how much hard drive space i have left?
[05:23] <intelikey> df -h
[05:23] <Jucato> in the command line, df -h
[05:23] <kubuntunewbie> ty
[05:23] <intelikey> or is it mem  ????
[05:23] <intelikey> :)
[05:23] <Jucato> for a fancy way to look, install filelight
[05:23] <kubuntunewbie> RAM it up your @$$ ;)
[05:23] <Jucato> !info filelight | kubuntunewbie
[05:23] <ubotu> kubuntunewbie: filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[05:24] <Jucato> you could also right-click on an empty area in Konqueror (presuming you're in file management mode) and select properties. the bottom part of the dialog window will tell you
[05:25] <Jucato> tsk tsk :P
[05:26] <kubuntunewbie> im not going to even attempt to install my USB CD-R drive right now bout just outta curiosity.. how much of a pain is that going to be?
[05:26] <dwidmann_> One thing almost as good as the bottle of pee idea - fill it with pickle juice :)
[05:26] <elite101> lol\
[05:26] <drif> kubuntunewbie: pretty painless I'd believe
[05:26] <Jucato> kubuntunewbie: hm... most likely you just need to plug it in
[05:27] <elite101> i drank a whole jar of pickle juice for 70$
[05:27] <elite101> lol i felt sick :(
[05:27] <kubuntunewbie> Jucato: i cant use it from across the room?
[05:27] <dwidmann_> elite101: should gag most people, especially if people try to gulp it.
[05:27] <elite101> lol i drank it down like it was water
[05:27] <dwidmann_> elite101: now you know not to do it in one sitting.
[05:27] <elite101> it ran down but man the after taste is nasty
[05:27] <dwidmann_> elite101: probably depends on the brand
[05:28] <elite101> id perfure drinking battery acid :\
[05:28] <elite101> it was bicks pickles
[05:28] <kubuntunewbie> elite101: you got a great deal, i knew someone who drank it down for free
[05:28] <intelikey> elite101 jsut for the record that could actually "kill" a person.   too much acid
[05:28] <elite101> or i mean Bics
[05:28] <elite101> yeah i know and ucan die form pickles juice
[05:28] <elite101> if u cut yourself your blood thins from it so it pours faster
[05:28] <intelikey> enough of it  you can
[05:28] <dwidmann_> You can die from pickle juice? D$#! I'm at risk.
[05:28] <elite101> lol
[05:29] <elite101> no not really depends on the person
[05:29] <elite101> if u cut yourself u can bleed alot since it makes the blood thinner
[05:29] <intelikey> hang em'
[05:29] <dwidmann_> neato, like aspirin, without the risks to the stomach, heck yes.
[05:30] <intelikey> hang em' all.
[05:30] <elite101> !offtopic | elite101
[05:30] <Jucato> O.o
[05:30] <elite101> lol
[05:31] <kubuntunewbie> i am really upset, like 3 days ago torrentspy.com stopped allowing US users
[05:31] <elite101> :) haha
[05:31] <elite101> canada Greatest country in the world
[05:31] <kubuntunewbie> you guys are next frenchie!
[05:31] <elite101> nope
[05:31] <elite101> :)
[05:31] <elite101> we are allowed to back up our DVD's :) and bring camcorders to theatres
[05:32] <elite101> :) wuu anyone wanna see superbad? i gott it on tape
[05:32] <kubuntunewbie> and live in a cold climate all year round.
[05:32] <elite101> :P
[05:32] <dwidmann_> camcorded shows tend to be suck quality.
[05:32] <parameswaran> hello
[05:32] <elite101> u think u live in cold climate?
[05:32] <kubuntunewbie> yes
[05:32] <elite101> lmao ur cold climate is like 1day of winter ours is like 6months of winter
[05:32] <Hiddenrider__> hi
[05:32] <elite101> hello
[05:33] <kubuntunewbie> nooo, i think you live in a cold climate
[05:33] <kubuntunewbie> not me
[05:33] <elite101> :)
[05:33] <intelikey> Hiddenrider__ find a name you can stay with  ?
[05:33] <elite101> 1337-canadian101
[05:33] <kubuntunewbie> but you guys have great pot
[05:33] <dwidmann_> Canada shouldn't be all that far off of Wisconsin weatherwise, if you're in the southpart, I would think.
[05:33] <elite101> sorry
[05:33] <intelikey> Hiddenrider__ what can we do for you ?
[05:33] <kubuntunewbie> Jucato: off topic? how so?!?!?! ;)
[05:33] <drif> Jucato: gesundheit
[05:33] <Hiddenrider__> just looking
[05:34] <dwidmann_> /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:34] <Jucato> I'm there :P
[05:34] <elite-canuck> :)
[05:34] <Jucato> elite-canuck: please stop changing nicks every microsecond? :P
[05:34] <drif> elite-canuck: what's the usual temp there?
[05:34] <intelikey> Hiddenrider__ this is supposed to be the official kubuntu help channel    should you ever need help.    even though it's hard to tell some times
[05:34] <elite-canuck> umm i dont know?
[05:34] <elite-canuck> in summer or winter?
[05:35] <elite-canuck> we get sometimes -39
[05:35] <drif> elite-canuck: you talked about cold.. so guess
[05:35] <elite-canuck> !offtopic | drif
[05:35] <ubotu> drif: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:35] <elite-canuck> :P
[05:35] <Jucato> elite-canuck: why don't you joine #kubuntu-offtopic. drif is there as well
[05:35] <dwidmann_> elite-canuck: sucks to be you guys
[05:35] <elite-canuck> he asked me?
[05:35] <Jucato> elite-canuck: no. but since you're talking offtopic w/ him :)
[05:36] <drif> elite-canuck: back-stabbish action.. first lure into conversation and then suddenly hit with the offtopic card there :D
[05:36] <elite-canuck> :P u asked me after i stopped
[05:36] <intelikey> drif the way of the assian for $200   ?
[05:36] <kubuntunewbie> about how long does it take to "make" a program? cause this has seriously been going on for 15 minutes or more
[05:37] <droach> i have a question but i dont really know how to ask it
[05:37] <elite-canuck> i think im the only person with the name"elite" so i see people ask me questions and after i dont feel so elite :(
[05:37] <drif> elite-canuck: I was actually answering to your question there ;)
[05:37] <BluesKaj> dwidman, wisconsin directly west of me and where I live is considered northern ontario , but of course geography isn't emphasized much in american schools so we don't expect americans to know much about other countries
[05:37] <elite-canuck> well this IRC i cant scroll up :(
[05:37] <intelikey> droach those are some times hard to answer.
[05:37] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: depends how slow your computer is
[05:38] <dwidmann_> I'd say pidgin would probably take about a half hour
[05:38] <kubuntunewbie> dwidmann_: lol, 450 Mhz P3 with 256 mb of ram
[05:38] <droach> i have something plugged into a usb port and i want to know which device it is connected to in /dev
[05:38] <intelikey> elite-canuck the page=up botton no workem' ?
[05:38] <dwidmann_> kubuntunewbie: make that well over an hour, or three
[05:38] <elite-canuck> lol remember the person who won the beauty pagent (what a real shinner) she answerd a question about people in USA who dont know where the country is in a map :P (durhhhURhhh)
[05:38] <intelikey> droach          lsusb
[05:38] <elite-canuck> thanks
[05:38] <elite-canuck> it works
[05:39] <kubuntunewbie> dwidmann_: welp looks like im done with asking technical questions for the night...
[05:39] <droach> i knew it was ls something but i was using lspci -vv
[05:39] <elite-canuck> lol you have some really smart people in USA :)
[05:39] <intelikey> droach   lshw   might also give some info  but probably now what you asked.
[05:39] <elite-canuck> when people from the USA cross border to Canada it says "whatever you do dont opperate heavy machinery"
[05:39] <kubuntunewbie> Anybody want to hire a Recent Graduate with a strong IT background for a logistical or sales position?
[05:40] <kubuntunewbie> sounds good
[05:40] <droach> i want to know where it is in the /dev directory
[05:40] <CPrgmSwR2> Wow is it ever nice to be able to install an operating system while using it
[05:41] <intelikey> droach depends on what it is
[05:41] <BluesKaj> elite-canuck , don't get silly
[05:41] <droach> usb cable modem
[05:41] <dxdt> I'm having a lot of problems formatting a USB flash drive to fat32, could anyone help?
[05:42] <intelikey> droach and that addressing will not be permanant.    /dev/tty'something' maybe       can you not use  kppp  to auto detect it ?
[05:43] <intelikey> i don't have cable.   anyone know the easy way to detect the modem  ???
[05:43] <intelikey> Jucato  ?
[05:43] <Jucato> no idea :(
[05:43] <CPrgmSwR2> what about kppp
[05:44] <CPrgmSwR2> hey jucato
[05:44] <intelikey> i sujested that but don't know for sure if it will detect cable modems
[05:44] <Jucato> hi CPrgmSwR2!
[05:44] <intelikey> CPrgmSwR2 have you used it for that ?
[05:45] <CPrgmSwR2> actually that was bad advice, as thats for using a modem once its detected
[05:45] <intelikey> it has an auto detect too
[05:45] <intelikey> i have used it.  but not for cable
[05:45] <CPrgmSwR2> I wish I could remember the command for listing the hardware stuff
[05:46] <intelikey> lsusb   lshw   lspci   ????
[05:46] <intelikey> something else?
[05:47] <intelikey> ls /proc/bus/usb/
[05:48] <CPrgmSwR2> lspci
[05:48] <intelikey> for a usb device ?
[05:48] <CPrgmSwR2> for your modem
[05:48] <intelikey> for a usb device ?
[05:48] <intelikey> :)   and it's not my modem
[05:50] <intelikey> i really should get something usb so i can learn a little about the usb addressing
[05:51] <intelikey> i should also fix my network.    while it's quiet in here
[06:01] <intelikey> i really really need a good howto that doesn't read like rute-book   on how to make a router out of a pinguin
[06:01] <Jucato> intelikey... needing howto's??? that's a first... :P
[06:02] <flaccid> english?
[06:02] <flaccid> natd?
[06:02] <intelikey> Jucato but you are the network guru and you wont help me...  :(
[06:02] <intelikey> flaccid yeah eng
[06:02] <Jucato> heh
[06:03] <intelikey> :)
[06:03] <flaccid> what do you want to do make an ubuntu router?
[06:04] <BluesKaj> ask , well try to answer
[06:04] <intelikey> well !ubuntu   but yeah
[06:04] <flaccid> !router
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <flaccid> !gateway
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <flaccid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972 <--- maybe that
[06:07] <intelikey> BluesKaj same thing i've been working on for three days.     i'll text diagram the hardware for you      inet--modem-box1-192.168.0.1--switch1--192.168.0.2-box7-192.168.0.2--switch2--192.168.0.3-box8     everything up to switch2 works like a charm  but nothing on that switch can see past box7
[06:08] <alirio> ok
[06:10] <intelikey> remember i'm still network illiterate  so if i say or ask something stupid there, go ahead an laugh but don't get mad.
[06:12] <intelikey> i set up dnsmasq on box1 and that let me use it as a gateway from everything on switch1   but doing the same on box7 didn't work for things on switch2   and i don't understand why
[06:13] <intelikey> boxes 1-7 all have inet acces through box1    so i thought boxes 8->> would be able to access box1 throught box7  same way.... but no.    anyone ever done this before ?
[06:14] <drif> intelikey: is that box7 bridged?
[06:14] <eljefe> does anyone know of a way to add the names in a spreadsheet to an image, one by one, and print it?  basically i want to make seating tags for the people on a list, and each tag has to have their name and a standard image.
[06:15] <jcs7778>  Hey guys, how do you use the themes in aparok, when i apply them nothing happens to amarok.
[06:15] <eljefe> jcs7778: it should change the colours??
[06:15] <eljefe> it works for me
[06:16] <drif> eljefe: should people #openoffice or similar now better..
[06:16] <eljefe> or, is there a way to add an image to a speadsheet cell?  kspread and oo.o_spread both don't allow for an image...
[06:16] <drif> know
[06:16] <intelikey> drif i tried bridging the cards but that just hosed it's connetivity to 192.168.0.1 as well as not making it avalable to switch2    so NO it's not.
[06:16] <eljefe> drif: do you have a suggestion?  there isn't a wizard for it, that i see
[06:17] <eljefe> oh ask in #openoffice.org ok will do!
[06:17] <drif> intelikey: just wondering that both had same ip
[06:17] <intelikey> drif odd thing is i can ping both addresses on box7 from box8  just cant ping through it.
[06:18] <intelikey> did i typo same ip ????
[06:18] <drif> 192.168.0.2 on both sides of box7
[06:18] <intelikey> oh yes that's a typo
[06:18] <intelikey> 192.168.0.2-box7-192.168.0.20
[06:19] <drif> intelikey: lots of boxes there - at home?
[06:19] <File13> im dual booting and the last part of space is coming up as unusable what do i have to do in the partition editor to get the space usable, something with the logical partition
[06:19] <drif> intelikey: or is that just concept you're working on
[06:19] <intelikey> not that many.  but i'd like to learn this anyway...  only about a dozen right now
[06:20] <intelikey> the number varies greatly.
[06:20] <intelikey> i get down to two or three and up to 200 ....
[06:21] <drif> intelikey: I doubt at home..
[06:23] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: hey, how do i download the various sweet codec packs & Divix packs used to view videos?
[06:24] <intelikey> !codecs | kubuntunewbie
[06:24] <ubotu> kubuntunewbie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:26] <intelikey> !ethereal
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethereal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <intelikey> !info ethereal
[06:26] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 21 kB, installed size 60 kB
[06:26] <intelikey> !info ethereal dapper
[06:26] <ubotu> ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[06:32] <drewcipher> !iso
[06:32] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:34] <willluongo> Hello, I am having problems running the live cd on my new system. I have tried safe graphics mode, but that just gets to black screen with a flashing underscore cursor
[06:35] <willluongo> I can put characters in but nothing happens
[06:37] <intelikey> willluongo hmmm 'vesa' driver no workem' ?
[06:39] <intelikey> willluongo at that cursor try   alt+f2  alt+f1   see if you get a console    you could try to   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow   there, if you know much about your hardware and linux you can get the gui up and running that way.
[06:40] <intelikey> boot option  noacpi  acpi=off   or some such might help too
[06:41] <willluongo> I will try those
[06:41] <willluongo> I think it is my video card also
[06:42] <willluongo> BBS
[06:45] <intelikey> yeah i think it is too...  ;/
[06:51] <madera> Hello everybody. I have a rather simple question... I installed kubuntu for the KDE libs but now it changed my Ubuntu orange splash screen (when the computer boots). I happen to preffer the orange one to the new Kubuntu blue one. How do I get my orange one back?
[06:54] <emonkey> !grub
[06:54] <mneptok> madera: the splash screen is part of the Kubuntu packages. if you replace it, it will get overwritten with updates
[06:54] <CPrgmSwR2> What is the command for updating the system with the must current packages
[06:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:54] <drif> madera: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u
[06:55] <drif> madera: and choose the one you want from given options
[06:55] <mneptok> madera: and if that changes, you'll need to run the command again.
[06:56] <mneptok> (like after an initramfs rebuild)
[07:03] <makuseru> are there any programs in kubuntu to take jpg, png, (any other images) and make animated gif's out of them?
[07:04] <dwidmann_> makuseru: the interface for it won't be quite so elegant, but you could use the gimp
[07:04] <makuseru> gimp does animations?
[07:04] <Jucato> yep
[07:04] <makuseru> how?
[07:05] <Jucato> GIMP Animation Plugin
[07:05] <Jucato> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Using_GAP/
[07:06] <makuseru> is there any program besides gimp?
[07:08] <Jucato> for KDE? none that I know of... might want to search in http://kde-apps.org
[07:08] <Jucato> (Krita definitely doesn't do animated GIF's)
[07:17] <intelikey> what's the differanve in   192.168.0.0/16  and   192.168.0.0/24   ?
[07:21] <arun> hey people
[07:21] <Jucato> hmm
[07:22] <JCDG> hey
[07:22] <JCDG> whas't up?
[07:22] <NickPresta> !hi
[07:22] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:25] <Ryuho> meh
[07:25] <JCDG> hello, somebody needs something?
[07:39] <willluongo> Well, I got it installed using the text install process
[07:39] <willluongo> I am 95% sure it is the video card now
[07:39] <willluongo> Using Vesa it makes the noise like it loaded KDE, but then just has a blank screen I can't get any response from.
[07:40] <willluongo> Using the nv driver it says that screens are not setup in a way that is usable (or something to that effect)
[07:45] <willluongo> Is there any way to update the video drivers from the command prompt? I apt-got udate and upgrade already
[07:45] <Agent_bob> is the hardware nvidia
[07:46] <Agent_bob> !nv
[07:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:46] <willluongo> Yeah, nVidia 8500 GT
[07:48] <sparr> linux games that are fun to play with a stylus...  go!
[07:49] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx
[07:49] <willluongo> Ok, I am off to try that. Be back shortly
[07:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> hardy heron :D
[07:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> sorry, just got home and saw that
[08:03] <sparr> i wondered what they were going to do about H
[08:03] <sparr> i think the early release namers werent planning very far ahead
[08:03] <Jucato> ??
[08:05] <sparr> well, now we are on the alphabetical progression
[08:05] <sparr> but thats going to get confusing in hindsight
[08:05] <sparr> when a user a few years from now tries to figure out if heron or hedgehog came after gutsy
[08:05] <boubbin> how to upgrade to the latest kde release ?
[08:05] <sparr> boubbin: wait for gutsy
[08:05] <Jucato> er?
[08:06] <Jucato> the latest KDE is 3.5.7
[08:06] <Jucato> it's available on Feisty now
[08:06] <boubbin> cant have the new version for feisty, i run 3.5.6 now
[08:06] <Jucato> ye syou can
[08:06] <boubbin> how :)
[08:06] <Jucato> er.. yes you*
[08:06] <boubbin> unable to find wiki threads about upgrading
[08:06] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[08:07] <Jucato> kde, amarok, and koffice upgrades are announced on http://kubuntu.org
[08:07] <sparr> oh, didnt realize
[08:07] <Jucato> sparr: considering hoary is dead (reached end of life some time ago), it wouldn't really be a source of confusion
[08:08] <sparr> well, ok, since hardy is LTS that will ease the confusion
[08:08] <sparr> but if it wasnt, then it would EOL eventually too
[08:08] <Jucato> and we also have the "real" names, *buntu 8.04
[08:08] <sparr> sure, but you dont see those when browsing repositories manually
[08:08] <sparr> digging for old packages
[08:08] <Jucato> true
[08:09] <sparr> and now...  i go afk for 6 days
[08:09] <sparr> Dragon*Con or bust!
[08:09] <Jucato> but hoary is no longer on the archives anyway
[08:09] <Jucato> unless some 3rd party outside of ubuntu has some repo/packages.
[08:09] <Jucato> anyway..
[08:15] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <dranas> greetings
[08:21] <dranas> anyone on?
[08:21] <dranas> !xfs
[08:21] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[08:23] <dranas> hello?
[08:23] <dranas> hello
[08:24] <neusonce> !flash
[08:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:24] <dranas> anyone know the commands to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[08:29] <NickPresta> !upgrade | dranas
[08:29] <ubotu> dranas: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:29] <dranas> i found it already thanks
[08:31] <neusonce>  grrrr iv dose anybody know the  cmd  for activating flash on kubuntun 7.4?
[08:35] <NickPresta> !flash
[08:35] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:35] <NickPresta> `sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree` after enabling multiverse
[08:36] <Jucato> multiverse should be enabled by default already
[08:36] <hangthedj> if your using konq, you should be able to go to a flash site, and it will ask if you want to install it.
[09:07] <Agent_bob> i've managed to un-fix almost everything having anything to do with networking...
[09:09] <hangthedj> just installed the new tribe on my laptop, and i have to say, i'm incredibly impressed.  with fiesty it took a month to get everything working.  everything works out of the box with gutsy.
[09:12] <NickPresta> Is there a way to customize "Fill in Tags with MusicBrainz" in Amarok?
[09:13] <hangthedj> i think so, but i don't know off hand.
[09:13] <hangthedj> you could ask in #amarok
[09:14] <NickPresta> hangthedj, yep. I was going there next. I was just curious if anyone knew here off-hand.
[09:16] <Kein> ;/
[09:16] <NickPresta> !hi | Kein
[09:16] <ubotu> Kein: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:18] <Kein> I think I need help learning how to compile...
[09:19] <Jucato> !compile
[09:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:29] <Agent_bob> i converted my subnet to * and now i'm almost totally non-network'd it seems that every thing i do makes it wores.
[09:29] <Agent_bob> se
[09:30] <Agent_bob> and i can't undo any of it...    i put it back like it was but it doesn't work that way now
[09:30] <hangthedj> Agent_bob: whats your subnet?
[09:30] <hangthedj> put it as that.
[09:30] <Agent_bob> *
[09:31] <Agent_bob> using 0 and 1
[09:31] <Agent_bob> atm
[09:31] <Agent_bob> maybe i'll test with 1 and 2    can 0 be messing with things ?
[09:32] <rockets> Anybody here use SoundKonverter?
[09:32] <rockets> and if so do you know how to make it do a V0 rip
[09:32] <Kein> Huh.
[09:32] <Kein> Weird...
[09:33] <Agent_bob> or could one have  192.168.0.0  for one box ?
[09:33] <Kein> I can't get my headphones to work.
[09:33] <Kein> Also, I need an XML parser for perl, but have no clue where I would look in synaptic/adept for it.
[09:36] <Agent_bob> can part of a network be 255.255.0.0 and part be 255.255.255.0 ?
[09:41] <lnx_> how i can make kaffeine to play avi \ mpg \wmv ?
[09:42] <hangthedj> !wmv
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:48] <intelikey> i got partial fix.
[09:50] <lnx_> hangthedj , i have all the free (thora an vorbis and its still doesnt work ) ?
[09:50] <Jucato> lnx_: avi/mpg/wmv are non-free formats. you need the non-free codecs for those
[09:51] <Jucato> lnx_: for avi/mpg, you just need to install libxine-extracodecs
[09:51] <hangthedj> does libxine-extracodecs take care of wmv?  i'm not sure
[09:52] <lnx_> i know  , but there is away that kaffine will suggest me automatic when i try to play unsupported video ( like totem ) ?
[09:52] <Jucato> no, that 's why I said avi/mpg only :)
[09:52] <Hori_Laptop> ah
[09:53] <Jucato> lnx_: there is something like that in Amarok, but  it's a bit buggy. its quite easy. Just go to Add/Remove Programs and search for MP3, or go to Adept Manager and search for libxine-extracodecs
[09:53] <hangthedj> i think if you go to the mplayerhq site, you can get support for wmv
[09:54] <lnx_> Jucat , i have found and i can play ... but how i can play real media ?
[09:54] <Jucato> !wmv
[09:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:54] <Hori_Laptop> Don't suppose anyone is keen on helping me with getting MP3 support for Amarok, (me being almost completely new to Linux (windows user D:) and who hates code) I'm using 6.06 (Dapper Drake I think is the name)
[09:54] <Hori_Laptop> ?
[09:54] <Jucato> lnx_: you need w32codecs
[09:55] <Jucato> Hori_Laptop: install libxine-extracodecs
[09:55] <Jucato> that's all you need for mp3
[09:55] <Hori_Laptop> Jucato: I think I need to edit my source list,
[09:55] <Jucato> Hori_Laptop: ah yes, Dapper... you need to enable multiverse
[09:55] <Jucato> !multiverse
[09:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:55] <Hori_Laptop> Which I tried, however, it wouldn't let me save it due to evilness
[09:56] <Jucato> you need to be admin/root to do that. just follow the instructions given in that link
[09:56] <Hori_Laptop> Danke
[09:57] <Jucato> lnx_: for WMV (and mostly Real) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[09:59] <lnx_> ko i have intsall alot of thing and still , someone can see this video ? http://yes.walla.co.il/?w=1/7042/1151512 , i use firefox and i have flash
[09:59] <intelikey> well by watching the lights blink i can see what's happening when i ping .1.3(eth1 box2) from .1.2(eth1 box3)  box2 replys on eth0  so the ping reply never gets back to box3
[10:00] <Jucato> lnx_: have you installed the w32codecs? it covers wmv and real (it should)
[10:00] <Jucato> you can't find that in the repositories so you should follow the instructions given in the link I gave
[10:02] <hangthedj> lnx_: it works for me, although, i don't know what anything means. ;)
[10:04] <lnx_> hangthedj , you can see it "perfect" (with lags or things like this ) ?
[10:05] <lnx_> i have install all the codecs that you gave and still i have grey screen instead of the video ?
[10:06] <Jucato> lnx_: near the bottom of the grey box (where the video should be) can you see the controls,like play, stop pause, etc
[10:07] <hangthedj> its actually taking along time trying to look up dev.cgroup.co.il, i imagine for the video.
[10:07] <hangthedj> on my computer at least.
[10:10] <lnx_> Jucato , i dont see even this controls
[10:58] <gronbaek> Hi people. I have problem with ALSA, and hope you could help.
[10:58] <gronbaek> When starting the Last.FM player, it complains that ALSA is busy or not present, and when setting Amarok to use ALSA there is no sound.
[10:59] <gronbaek> Additionally there is no sound on Flash when viewing web sites, like Youtube etc.
[10:59] <gronbaek> But alsaplayer can play MP3 alright... any suggestions?
[10:59] <hangthedj> i had a problem with sound in flash, and i installed the newest version of lib-alsa.
[11:00] <hangthedj> http://www.alsa-project.org
[11:01] <Jucato> !sound
[11:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:03] <gronbaek> Jucato: it's checked. And Amarok can play music as log as it's set to "auto-detect", but no sound when manually set to ALSA. Kaffeine also has sound.
[11:03] <gronbaek> So it seems it's alsa that's the problem.
[11:05] <hangthedj> http://www.alsa-project.org
[11:05] <gronbaek> Yeah, im trying the alsa-lib now.
[11:05] <hangthedj> gronbaek: what dist are you running?
[11:06] <gronbaek> Why isn't that in the repositories? Is it included in some other form? 7.10
[11:06] <gronbaek> So it's sort of my own fault, I know :-)
[11:06] <hangthedj> gronbaek: libsound2
[11:06] <hangthedj> in the reps
[11:06] <lnx_> how i can CLEAR the alt+f2 menu ?
[11:07] <grul> use backspace
[11:07] <lnx_> grul , i mean to clear all the command that i have ever typed
[11:07] <gronbaek> hm... I don't have a libsound2
[11:08] <freeman> ???
[11:08] <freeman> 
[11:09] <hangthedj> sorry libasound2
[11:09] <freeman> 
[11:09] <gronbaek> Ah, that's installed.
[11:10] <freeman>  ubuntu
[11:10] <freeman> apy-get libasound2
[11:11] <freeman> apt-get install libasound2
[11:11] <freeman> 
[11:11] <gronbaek> Yeah, that's done. I just tried a --reinstall, but that didn't help.
[11:12] <freeman>   goole
[11:17] <lnx_> grul , i mean to clear all the command that i have ever typed
[11:17] <lnx_> how i can CLEAR the alt+f2 menu ?
[11:19] <hangthedj> lnx_ : not sure, sorry
[11:20] <praecox> hello, anyone here familiar with KMail?
[11:20] <Jucato> lnx_: Alt+F2, right-click
[11:20] <Jucato> not so familiar but I do use it
[11:21] <praecox> Jucato, I've got problem with KMail after my last daily upgrade. it started saying: Unable to complete LIST operation. Invalid Response From Server.
[11:21] <praecox> after that it just crashes, here's backtrace: http://pastebin.ca/675581
[11:21] <Jucato> oh...
[11:21] <lnx_> Jucato yes its work
[11:21] <praecox> it simply never happened before.
[11:22] <Jucato> oh... sorry no idea then :(
[11:23] <Jucato> might want to try out #kontact but the backtrace isn't usable at all
[11:24] <Jucato> praecox: you might want to install kdepim-dbg to get a more usable backtrace
[11:26] <hangthedj> praecox: what dist are you using, because recently there have been lots of problems with kontact.
[11:28] <praecox> hangthedj, it's Kubuntu Gutsy.
[11:28] <hangthedj> praecox: have you tried updating kontact?
[11:28] <lnx_> what is the best kde   ?
[11:29] <lnx_> what is the best kde irc client ?
[11:29] <praecox> hangthedj, I believe it's up to date.
[11:29] <praecox> hangthedj, as I said before, I just finished daily upgrade this morning.
[11:30] <hangthedj> praecox: there are lots of problems with kontact in gutsy, you should go report your bug to launchpad.net
[11:30] <Carnage\> lnx_: I use Konversation though it's not perfect...
[11:31] <hangthedj> there was a problem with kontact and basket, and i reported svn worked, and they updated the package, and now it works.
[11:31] <hangthedj> launchpad.net is very helpful
[11:31] <Jucato> lnx_: graphical IRC clients, I'd say Konversation
[11:31] <praecox> hangthedj, I see. well, will try then.
[11:31] <lnx_> Carnage/ i also and it have all i want
[11:31] <hangthedj> i've tried many irc clients, and BitchX is always my favorite.
[11:32] <praecox> I do prefer irssi to BitchX.
[11:33] <hangthedj> see, i'm a simpleton, i love BitchX
[11:35] <diane> What is the best way to install the nvidia drivers for the 8600GT? It is not in the list of supported cards for the ubuntu nvidia binary driver. Should I just install from nvidia's site?
[11:35] <Jucato> diane: which driver did you check? there are 3 drivers for nvidia
[11:35] <diane> It is not listed here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[11:35] <diane> Jucato: it is not in the latest one
[11:36] <Jucato> nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new
[11:36] <diane> Jucato: the glx-new
[11:36] <Jucato> hm..
[11:36] <Jucato> GeForce 6800 GT  0x0045
[11:36] <Jucato> it's the 5th from the top
[11:36] <hangthedj> !nvidia
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:36] <diane> Jucato: 8600GT
[11:36] <lnx_> what is the command to run the default kde email client ?
[11:36] <Jucato> oh sorry
[11:36] <hangthedj> kmail
[11:37] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:37] <Jucato> lnx_: kmail which is in kontact when you run it
[11:38] <hangthedj> !hi | Ace2016
[11:38] <ubotu> Ace2016: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:38] <Ace2016> anyone know how to shrink the display on an lcd, there is a line about 20px from the right that i need to get rid of so i want to shrink the display to fix say 800x600 in the middle of my 1024x768 display so my desktop is in the middle 800x600, then an empty black area and
[11:38] <Jucato> diane: hm... might have to either manually install the driver or wait for Gutsy...
[11:38] <diane> Jucato: It is in this version: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/appendix-a.html
[11:38] <enry> hi
[11:39] <diane> Do you know if the nv driver supports widescreen resolutions
[11:40] <diane> GeForce 8600 GT  0x0402
[11:40] <Ace2016> like this:http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktoptm2.jpg
[11:40] <Ace2016> diane: why not just install the nvidia driver?
[11:40] <Ace2016> and you can use custom resolutions in your xorg.conf, it'll just do what you tell it to do
[11:41] <diane> Ace2016: yes I am going to do that. I just wanted to see if there was an alternative.
[11:41] <diane> Ace2016: since the nvidia driver provided by ubuntu does not support my card...
[11:42] <intelikey> well i'm on the second lan now.     finally got it going.
[11:43] <intelikey> i can't believe that anyone would waste this much time on something like this....   pitiful
[11:43] <Ace2016> oh well envy can install a driver that'll work perfectly with it, i should know, i'm using it
[11:44] <Ace2016> intelikey: second lan?
[11:44] <Ace2016> one not enough?
[11:45] <intelikey> Ace2016 yeah
[11:45] <intelikey> Ace2016 size matters
[11:46] <lnx_> i can somehow improove the preformance with disabling of cisual effect in kde ?
[11:47] <intelikey> Ace2016 lan on flour 1 with switch and boxes  lan on flour 2 with switch and boxes lan per flour...
[11:47] <intelikey> inx_ kcontrol   yes
[11:48] <lnx_> intelikey , i know but what to change there ?
[11:49] <hangthedj> intelikey: flour 2 and 1 of your house?
[11:50] <Jucato> ssshhhh don't mind him :)
[11:50] <intelikey> hangthedj well,    umm  sort of.
[11:50] <Jucato> (his house is actually made of ginger bread)
[11:50] <intelikey> lol
[11:50] <hangthedj> neat
[11:50] <Jucato> ever heard of hansel & gretel? :)
[11:50] <intelikey> Jucato you think i live in big house ?
[11:51] <hangthedj> anyway me and Jucato, held down the fort while you were gone :p
[11:51] <intelikey> hangthedj thank you.
[11:53] <hangthedj> man, i hate when i put commas where they don't belong.
[11:55] <Kanniball> hi!
[11:56] <hangthedj> !hi | Kanniball
[11:58] <Kanniball> is it possible to install kubuntu from the desktop cd, without a live session (start only the installer, not a kde session)?
[11:58] <Jucato> nope
[11:58] <hangthedj> Kanniball : you could grab the kubuntu alternate install cd
[11:59] <hangthedj> all ncurses.
[11:59] <SlimeyPete> Kanniball: nope. But you can use the alternate CD for that.
[11:59] <Kanniball> and the alternate only has a ncurses installer?
[11:59] <Jucato> yep
[12:00] <Jucato> text based + lots more options
[12:00] <Kanniball> ok....
[12:00] <Jucato> desktop cd = live cd + basic install
[12:00] <ert> how do i set up tor
[12:00] <Jucato> !tor
[12:00] <Kanniball> but I think it should be an option to have graphical installer without a Desktop Session
[12:00] <Jucato> dang
[12:00] <Jucato> !tor
[12:01] <Jucato> dang bot's down
[12:01] <hangthedj> yeah
[12:01] <hangthedj> @t
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Kanniball> because on computers with 256MB of ram, it could be damn slow
[12:02] <Kanniball> ert: I don't know the specifics for Kubuntu
[12:02] <Jucato> Kanniball: that's what the alternate installers are for
[12:02] <hangthedj> @T
[12:02] <Kanniball> but the basics behind it, it setting a proxy, and then make the applications use that proxy
[12:02] <Jucato> if you had only 256MB of RAM, a live cd of Kubuntu would practically be useless anyway
[12:04] <praecox> hangthedj, well, seems like it's already reported bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/135787
[12:04] <Kanniball> Jucato: ok, i will download the alternate version... but since this is was intended to give to someone else to install alone, I need to go and install it myself
[12:04] <hangthedj> praecox: kontact is making me crazy right now too.
[12:05] <Kanniball> because the process it's scary for computer begginners
[12:06] <hangthedj> dell sells computers now with freedos, thats cool.
[12:06] <Kanniball> hangthedj: and with linux too... at least in US
[12:06] <hangthedj> well i knew about the ubuntu, but i didn't know about the freedos.
[12:07] <Jenna> morning all, I've just installed kubuntu, no I wan to apt-get gnome desktop onto it as well. is there a 1 package which completly install gnome desktop or do I have to manually choose 1 by 1
[12:07] <hangthedj> Jenna: ubuntu-desktop
[12:07] <hangthedj> i think
[12:07] <Jucato> Jenna: ubuntu-desktop to install all the default ubuntu stuff
[12:07] <Jucato> Jenna: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[12:07] <hangthedj> Jenna, but why are you asking how to install gnome, in a kde channel?
[12:07] <Jenna> hmm. I did that . but my side bars (minimize/ maximize) are missing
[12:08] <hangthedj> Jenna: you have to logout and choose Gnome, and log back in.
[12:08] <HOLLOWMA_N> i want to setup my internet connection in Kubuntu. in windows i dail using pppoe with my user password but its not dailup. Its braoadband. how to setup it up in ubuntu
[12:08] <Jenna> hangthedj, just wanted show off to people that kubuntu is so good that it can you can install gnome desktop onto it as well
[12:09] <hangthedj> i am going to punch kontact in the face.
[12:09] <Jucato> HOLLOWMA_N: in the terminal (K Menu -> System -> Konsole) type in: sudo pppoeconf
[12:09] <Jucato> HOLLOWMA_N: just follow the instructions.
[12:09] <HOLLOWMA_N> does'nt work :(
[12:09] <owl> i guess i found a bug
[12:10] <Jucato> HOLLOWMA_N: what doesn't work?
[12:10] <praecox> hangthedj, right, do it for me, too.
[12:10] <HOLLOWMA_N> Jucato that does'nt work :(
[12:11] <Jucato> HOLLOWMA_N: how doesn't it work?
[12:11] <HOLLOWMA_N> it says no pppoe dectected in etho or something
[12:11] <hangthedj> praecox: everytime i reload kontact, i get like 12 new messages in my inbox from, Unknown, date Unknown
[12:11] <hangthedj> its making me crazy.
[12:11] <hangthedj> i'm gonna punch it.
[12:11] <praecox> hangthedj, exactly. plus appearance as described in that bug report.
[12:11] <praecox> hangthedj, punch it hard!
[12:11] <HOLLOWMA_N> Jucato if u have n e idea about windows i can tell u what i do in windows.. so that u can understand the problem
[12:12] <hangthedj> HOLLOWMA_N : explain it in "windows terms"
[12:12] <Jucato> HOLLOWMA_N: hm... haven't used Windows in a long time. But that's just how I configure my internet connection. I was also using PPPoE ADSL
[12:12] <Jucato> or rather still am, but now with a router so I use DHCP
[12:12] <Jenna> thanx guys
[12:13] <Jenna> but one more thing. has anyone been experiencing screen freezes (blank/black) when u logout of ur kubuntu desktop ? (Im on amd64 lappy) ?
[12:14] <hangthedj> Jenna: thats a problem thats being addressed i think.  what distro are you using?
[12:14] <HOLLOWMA_N> hangthedj : what i do is if u go to network connection > creat a new connection > connect to internet > manual setup > connect using broadband connection that required user pass > user n pass thats it then i just lunch it and its connected to net
[12:15] <Jenna> hangthedj, kubuntu. 7.04 (patched)
[12:15] <hangthedj> patched?
[12:16] <Jenna> hangthedj, so thats an issue with all of u guys ? *screen freeze"
[12:16] <Jenna> hangthedj, updated
[12:16] <HOLLOWMA_N> hangthedj :(
[12:16] <hangthedj> HOLLOWMA_N : so your on dialup?
[12:17] <HOLLOWMA_N> NO NO
[12:17] <HOLLOWMA_N> broadband
[12:17] <Jucato> PPPoE ADSL. needs username and password
[12:17] <HOLLOWMA_N> yes
[12:17] <hangthedj> Jenna : on laptops, for some reason, every once in a while, shutting down doesn't shut down.
[12:17] <hangthedj> ah
[12:17] <HOLLOWMA_N> user pass required
[12:17] <HOLLOWMA_N> but not using phn line
[12:18] <HOLLOWMA_N> n e suggestion :(
[12:18] <hangthedj> HOLLOWMA_N: i'm sorry its been a long time for me. you might try talking to ubotu
[12:18] <hangthedj> !pppoe
[12:19] <hangthedj> !stupidubotu
[12:19] <freeman> ho
[12:20] <hangthedj> !botabuse
[12:20] <HOLLOWMA_N> ubotu ? :S
[12:20] <HOLLOWMA_N> ??
[12:21] <hangthedj> !botabuse >> hangthedj
[12:21] <HOLLOWMA_N> !botabuse
[12:21] <HOLLOWMA_N> :P
[12:21] <Jucato> ok you can stop that now :)
[12:21] <hangthedj> :(
[12:21] <Jucato> HOLLOWMA_N: I'm not really sure why pppoeconf isn't working
[12:21] <HOLLOWMA_N> :'(
[12:21] <HOLLOWMA_N> :((
[12:21] <Jucato> is your dsl modem connected and turned on when you run the command?
[12:22] <HOLLOWMA_N> i dont have n e modem in my home :S what i have is a fibar optic media converter :S :S :S i UTP cable came from my it to my lan card thats it
[12:23] <Jucato> well whatever that is. is it connected and turned on?
[12:23] <HOLLOWMA_N> lol
[12:23] <HOLLOWMA_N> 100$
[12:23] <HOLLOWMA_N> 100%*
[12:23] <Jucato> hm...
[12:23] <Jucato> try the command again? :(
[12:23] <Jucato> it has never failed me before
[12:23] <Chousuke> PPPoE :(
[12:24] <freeman> what?
[12:24] <Jenna> hangthedj, any idea when  that thing will be fixed/issued ?
[12:24] <Chousuke> what's wrong with a simple ethernet connection that doesn't ask for passwords? :P
[12:24] <Jucato> Chousuke: ask our ISP's :(
[12:24] <hangthedj> Jenna: not sure at all, Tribe 5 of gutsy seems to work very well.
[12:25] <HOLLOWMA_N> :(
[12:26] <eduard> hello, does anyone know how to rename files that have spaces, using prefixsuffix ?
[12:27] <Jucato> huh?
[12:27] <owl> mv this\ is-a-file foobar
[12:27] <owl> ?
[12:28] <eduard> i'm using prefixsuffix in order to rename a batch of files
[12:28] <Jucato> oh prefixsuffix is a program?
[12:28] <eduard> yes
[12:28] <eduard> for example 1 2.mp3
[12:28] <SlimeyPete> enclose the name in double-quotes?
[12:28] <eduard> hmm
[12:28] <eduard> leme try
[12:28] <Jucato> there's krename too btw
[12:29] <Jucato> gwenrename - Batch renamer tool for KDE
[12:29] <Jucato> krename - Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x
[12:29] <eduard> nop, double-quotes do not work. guess i'll try krename
[12:29] <eduard> 10x
[12:29] <Jucato> gotta love these abbreviated words :P
[12:29] <eduard> :)
[12:30] <Jucato> yw
[12:31] <soa2ii> Hi... i just statred my Kubuntu and my keyboard is weird....
[12:31] <soa2ii> somtimes if i enter a char
[12:31] <soa2ii> a lot of those chars are printed
[12:31] <Turazoor> hey peeps, having some problems with a usb adaptor!
[12:32] <soa2ii> everything else is fine
[12:32] <Turazoor> does anyone know why plugging a Wireless adaptor would slow up da system?
[12:32] <soa2ii> and the system is at normal speed
[12:32] <Jucato> soa2ii: check the keyboard repeat rate in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard
[12:32] <soa2ii> Jucato: nono....
[12:32] <soa2ii> it is just sometimes
[12:32] <soa2ii> i tried it really lowly
[12:33] <soa2ii> i cant even login
[12:33] <soa2ii> because entering passwords became impossible
[12:33] <HOLLOWMA_N> hangthedj can u tell me what i need to setup a DSL or cabale modem in Kubuntu ?
[12:33] <eduard> but does the chars apear quick, or is there a delay
[12:33] <eduard> because i'm thinking that the buttons might get stuck
[12:33] <eduard> or something
[12:33] <soa2ii> everything is normal.....
[12:33] <soa2ii> no
[12:34] <soa2ii> it's like that...
[12:34] <soa2ii> (every char is typed with 1 sec break and really fast)
[12:34] <HOLLOWMA_N> n e one plz tell me the general info that i need to setup my dsl or cable modem in Kubuntu
[12:34] <soa2ii> Hello thhhhhhhhhhhhhere
[12:34] <SlimeyPete> !adsl
[12:34] <SlimeyPete> !dsl
[12:34] <soa2ii> and if i'll do it again
[12:34] <SlimeyPete> hrm, nada
[12:34] <freeman> HELLO
[12:34] <soa2ii> it would maybe llok like
[12:34] <HOLLOWMA_N> !dsl
[12:35] <hangthedj> ubotus depressed
[12:35] <soa2ii> Helllllllllllllllllllllo there
[12:35] <Jucato> I'm guessing it might be a keyboard problem though
[12:35] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:35] <Jucato> hardware*
[12:35] <hangthedj> HOLLOWMA_N: i'm sorry i really can't.  as far as login stuff.
[12:35] <soa2ii> hm...
[12:35] <gronbaek> !vpn
[12:35] <eduard> do you have an usb keyboard?
[12:36] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[12:36] <hangthedj> does anybody know what package has il.h?
[12:36] <soa2ii> yesterday i tried to enable udma for dev/hdc no
[12:36] <Jucato> hangthedj: a header file?
[12:36] <soa2ii> eduard: PS2 keyboard
[12:36] <soa2ii> with sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc
[12:36] <hangthedj> right.
[12:37] <hangthedj> i'm getting a compile error, missing il.H
[12:37] <Jucato> hangthedj: libdevil-dev
[12:37] <Jucato> hangthedj: http://packages.ubuntu.com is a very nice site ;)
[12:38] <hangthedj> i know :p, i'm a lazy
[12:38] <Jucato> next time you ask, I'll be too lazy to answer :P
[12:38] <Jucato> fair 'nuff? :)
[12:39] <soa2ii> Jucato: what can i do now?
[12:39] <hangthedj> ok fine :D
[12:39] <Jucato> soa2ii: sorry I have no idea, because I don't even know what the source of the problem is.
[12:39] <Jucato> if you have an extra keyboard lying around...
[12:40] <soa2ii> but hdparm got nothing to do with it... or?
[12:40] <Jucato> hm... hdparm is for hard disks... don't think it should affect it
[12:41] <phimic> hi all i use compiz with kubuntu 7.10, i have a small shadow in kicker and kde-startmenu, someone know how i can disable that
[12:45] <hangthedj> alright, gotta sleep
[12:45] <Turazoor> hi there, i'm a little new to linux, can anyone tell me why typing "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper" does not work?
[12:45] <SlimeyPete> Turazoor: do you get an error message?
[12:46] <Turazoor> SlimeyPete: yeah, COuldn't find package
[12:46] <soa2ii> hehe
[12:46] <soa2ii> then the name is wrong
[12:46] <soa2ii> Turazoor: what do you get with
[12:46] <eduard> try sudo apt-get update
[12:46] <soa2ii> aptitude search ndiswrapper
[12:46] <Turazoor> kk
[12:47] <Turazoor> ah ha.... the search reveals multiple versions, cheers soa2ii
[12:47] <soa2ii> i hope you'll take the right one ;)
[12:48] <Turazoor> Yay... gonna take the source one, seems to right course of action lol
[12:48] <soa2ii> :P
[12:48] <soa2ii> i don't know... never used ndiswrapper
[12:48] <Turazoor> anyone know how to use Ndiswrapper ha ha ha ha ha
[12:49] <soa2ii> i think the wiki knows ;)
[12:49] <Jucato> !ndiswrapper
[12:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:49] <owl> .oO( somehow i like this channel/community )
[12:51] <Turazoor> errr... i'm hoping this Ndiswrapper will stop the buggyness when I plug my usb wireless in, because linux goes to an almost stand still everytime I plug it in! Would that have anything to do with the drivers, because it worked perfectly on the live cd
[12:53] <soa2ii> hm...
[12:53] <soa2ii> what card is it?
[12:53] <Turazoor> Belkin 54g USB Adaptor
[12:55] <soa2ii> hm mom
[12:56] <bhaskark> how to add gtalk voice support to kopete?
[12:56] <soa2ii> Turazoor: a more special dscription?
[12:56] <Turazoor> errrr....?
[12:56] <soa2ii> F5D6051 ?
[12:57] <soa2ii> if you plug the stick in...
[12:57] <Turazoor> nope hang on... will find u it on the net... if u want
[12:57] <soa2ii> what does lsusb show?
[12:58] <Turazoor> isusb?
[12:58] <soa2ii> lsusb
[12:59] <soa2ii> in the terminal
[12:59] <Turazoor> well theres the stick itself and i'll check the lsusb.............http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211
[01:00] <Turazoor> ahhh... thats cool! err... it's not plugged in at da mo cos it slows it up too much did u need to definetly know what lsusb says wen its plugged in, cos i'll have to reboot to revive
[01:01] <Turazoor> ....it does say there's something on Bus 005 tho, and i have no USB plugged in
[01:01] <soa2ii> hm... one moment
[01:01] <Turazoor> kk
[01:01] <soa2ii> the stick uses a broadcom chipset
[01:01] <Turazoor> ok...... lol.... and that means?
[01:03] <soa2ii> lsusb or lspci do not say smth else?
[01:04] <soa2ii> damn... you better shoul have bought smth with "real" linux drivers ;)
[01:04] <Turazoor> lspci lists lots of USB controllers, and ethernet port, and vga, firewire, host and pci bridge etc... etc...
[01:05] <soa2ii> smth that looks like you wlan?
[01:05] <hayami> hi how can i upgrade my wine version? =o
[01:05] <Turazoor> i'll plug it in, if i disappear it's because i got annoyed with the slowness lol, i'll run lsusb then....
[01:05] <soa2ii> ok (:
[01:05] <soa2ii> and lspci
[01:05] <Turazoor> kk
[01:05] <Turazoor> its in and the lag begins lol
[01:06] <soa2ii> fine (:
[01:07] <kewl_> hallo
[01:07] <Turazoor> ok then lsusb has the deivce in the list, Bus 005, device, 003, ID 050d:705a Belkin Components
[01:08] <Turazoor> incedently there are another 2 Buss 005 entries
[01:08] <soa2ii> and lspci?
[01:08] <soa2ii> lshw maybe says smth too...
[01:08] <Turazoor> kk cant see anything different i nthat list
[01:08] <soa2ii> hm ok...
[01:09] <Turazoor> should there be sumthing different in lspci?
[01:09] <soa2ii> because it would be interesting wich chipset the wlan uses....
[01:09] <soa2ii> because there are different drivers
[01:09] <soa2ii> :/
[01:09] <Turazoor> ok
[01:09] <Fusion_> does anyone have any ideas how to make my pcmcia capture card work in feisty? thanks
[01:10] <jussi01> hmmm, Im trying to play an mp3, however the dialogue for no mp3 support for amorak has no text.... help?
[01:10] <soa2ii> everyone got wlan probs.... :P
[01:10] <soa2ii> hehe
[01:10] <Turazoor> so if i got ndiswrapper working properly, do u reckon that solve da problem.... the interesting point is that  the usb didn't slow the system at all
[01:10] <soa2ii> jussi01: try sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs ;)
[01:10] <Turazoor> wen i was using the live cd...
[01:11] <jussi01> soa2ii: yeah, I know, however, I still would want this to work...
[01:11] <soa2ii> Turazoor: maybe you should watch lsusb once with the live cd
[01:11] <kewl_> i want to check which modem is in use, which command shld i use?
[01:12] <soa2ii> kewl_: ifconfig maybe...
[01:12] <Turazoor> soa2ii: the usb device worked on my dodgy live cd lol! so i'll try that first followed by my other live cd that works lol! see u all in a bit
[01:12] <kewl_> soa2ii:ok
[01:13] <soa2ii> jussi01: and... does it work?
[01:13] <soa2ii> (dont forget torestart amarok)
[01:13] <kewl_> soa2ii:command not found :)
[01:13] <soa2ii> ifconfig??
[01:13] <soa2ii> mom
[01:13] <soa2ii> are you sure?
[01:14] <jussi01> soa2ii: of course it works. However, If there is something wrong,I want to report a bug and have it fixed, not just a work around.
[01:14] <goban_> i installed compiz fusion how do i start it?
[01:14] <goban_> just restart x?
[01:14] <hayami> you can put a frontend
[01:14] <kewl_> actually i m on debian base
[01:14] <soa2ii> goban_: compiz and kde is a little complicated...
[01:14] <soa2ii> kewl_: even debian got ifconfig ;)
[01:14] <lnx__> in mandriva when i start the first time kde i gave me wizard that autoconfig for me the effects\preformance settings how i can run it in kubuntu ?
[01:14] <hayami> anyone can help me? i'm trying to install a game with wine
[01:15] <jussi01> goban_: #ubuntu-effects for more help
[01:15] <goban_> soa2ii: i see! thanks
[01:15] <kewl_> soa2ii: its dream linux ;)
[01:15] <soa2ii> goban_: i think with kde4 everything would be better....
[01:16] <goban_> soa2ii: installing that :) tyty!
[01:17] <kewl_> ,
[01:18] <lnx__> someone ?
[01:23] <goban_> network settings isnt in the gnome menu?
[01:23] <goban_> inx
[01:25] <goban_> or kde menu sry
[01:27] <Turazoor> hi peeps, errr... it's not lagging the system and now it says its on Bus 004 in lsusb as apposed to bus005
[01:29] <Turazoor> ??
[01:31] <king> hello
[01:31] <Turazoor> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[01:31] <Turazoor> he's gone!
[01:32] <Turazoor> Mr_Sonoma: u there?
[01:33] <Turazoor> someone please help before i go crazy, how do i setup the Buses in lsusb
[01:33] <Turazoor> my wireless usb adaptor lags kubuntu 7.04 out, but when in the live cd works with out bug!
[01:34] <Turazoor> but it goes onto bus 5 when on hd copy, and bus 4 when on live cd???? WHY??? and how do i chang it
[01:34] <Ace2016> hi all
[01:35] <Turazoor> GOD DAMN IT!
[01:35] <Turazoor> lol
[01:35] <dthacker> !language | Turazoor
[01:35] <ubotu> Turazoor: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:35] <Turazoor> soz
[01:35] <Turazoor> didn't realise...
[01:35] <Turazoor> fort that applied to da "other" words
[01:35] <Turazoor> but can someone please help
[01:36] <dthacker> np ;)
[01:36] <Turazoor> lol
[01:42] <ScarFreewill> what is the command to reset apt/adept/apitude
[01:43] <ScarFreewill> archive locked.. but there is no prosesses running
[01:44] <ScarFreewill> hello Cyclone[w] 
[01:45] <SlimeyPete> ScarFreewill: sudo touch /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[01:45] <SlimeyPete> (iirc)
[01:45] <ScarFreewill> thanks
[01:47] <bhaskark> is ther any error in this "sudo ln - s libdbus-1.so.2 - > /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.2.0" iam getting permission denied
[01:48] <jussi01> ScarFreewill: did you get it fixed?
[01:48] <jussi01> if not...
[01:48] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[01:48] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:49] <ScarFreewill> ok
[01:50] <Turazoor> would anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"
[01:51] <kewl_> hallo i need help about modem
[01:52] <manchicken> bhaskark: Don't do that.
[01:52] <Turazoor> would anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"
[01:53] <rc-1> from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php, what does put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde (what lines and put them where?)
[01:54] <manchicken> Turazoor: I'd ask that question around in #ubuntu as well.  I think more folks dealing with hardware issues may be here.
[01:55] <Turazoor> ah ha cheers
[01:55] <kewl_> turazoor:i m not linux geek but i m using net from my cell....so i thnk i might b able to help u
[01:57] <jussi01> rc-1: its the 4 lines starting with export - the dot in front, that are just abve that
[01:57] <jussi01> and put them at the start of that file
[01:57] <bjwebb> hi
[01:57] <bjwebb> does kubuntu include pppd by default?
[01:57] <jussi01> bjwebb: I think so
[01:58] <jussi01> it has kppp included...
[01:58] <bjwebb> hmm its for the eciadsl driver
[01:58] <bjwebb> (for winmodems)
[01:58] <bjwebb> these are the packages i need: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/doc.php?file=eciadsl_install&doc_lang=en&view=html#Pre_002drequisites
[01:58] <jussi01> oh, probably not then
[01:58] <jussi01> !info pppd
[01:58] <ubotu> Package pppd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:59] <jussi01> !info pppd gutsy
[01:59] <ubotu> Package pppd does not exist in gutsy
[01:59] <jussi01> doesnt look like it
[01:59] <jussi01> sorry
[01:59] <bjwebb> hmm
[01:59] <jussi01> oh hang on
[01:59] <jussi01> kppp should do the same thing aspppd
[02:00] <bjwebb> hmmm
[02:00] <bjwebb> but will eciadsl see it?
[02:00] <jussi01> as that site says: PPP support (including usermode pppd package >=2.4.0)
[02:00] <bjwebb> how do i search the packages i have installed?
[02:00] <jussi01> !info kppp
[02:00] <ubotu> kppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 675 kB, installed size 3696 kB
[02:00] <bjwebb> optional? does that mean it would arrive off the cd?
[02:01] <enry> hi. someone can help?
[02:01] <pag> !ask | enry
[02:01] <ubotu> enry: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:01] <enry> oh well.
[02:01] <enry> connection problem:
[02:02] <jussi01> bjwebb: it just means that it isnt essential for a system to run...
[02:02] <bjwebb> jussi01: right
[02:02] <enry> sometimes it is as connection is "blocked"
[02:02] <enry> i'll explain better
[02:03] <bjwebb> is there a way to find out what packages are in feisty default install? - would be useful in future too
[02:03] <enry> ethernet modem, connection is ok, but sometimes, for example, browsing stops for a while
[02:03] <jussi01> enry: if you need support in italian there is quite an active italian channel...
[02:03] <enry> and then is comes ok again
[02:04] <enry> oh...
[02:04] <jussi01> !it | enry
[02:04] <ubotu> enry: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:04] <enry> thanks, what is channel's name?
[02:04] <jussi01> hope that is helpful :)
[02:04] <enry> well, thanks!
[02:05] <enry> but i should understand also english :D
[02:05] <jussi01> enry: are you sure it isnt just a site problem?
[02:05] <enry> no, i have the same problem for every sites
[02:06] <enry> but connection doesn't really brake, is's just as it is blocked for some seconds sometimes
[02:06] <jussi01> enry: which version of kubuntu are you running?
[02:06] <enry> feisty
[02:06] <jussi01> and how long is this pause?
[02:06] <enry> just some seconds
[02:06] <enry> but
[02:06] <bjwebb> is there a way to find out what packages are in feisty default install? - would be useful in future too
[02:06] <enry> it comes rather frequently
[02:07] <jussi01> enry: thats weird, I had that issue on edgy, but not now. which browser do you use?
[02:07] <enry> ff
[02:08] <jussi01> enry: doe it do the same in konq?
[02:08] <enry> yeah
[02:09] <jussi01> enry: Im sorry, I dont know. maybe wait around and ask agin in 15-30 mins. hopefully someone will be here to help then. sorry
[02:09] <enry> ok, thanks :)
[02:10] <enry> another problem:
[02:10] <enry> shutdown
[02:10] <jussi01> yes?
[02:10] <Cyclone_nb> whats the default mysql pass?
[02:10] <zipper> enry, i havent followed the discussion, but as far as i can tell you have a problem with your connection "dropping" once in a while yes?
[02:10] <enry> when i shutdown through kde
[02:10] <enry> zipper
[02:10] <enry> it doesn't really drop
[02:11] <enry> it's like frozen for some seconds
[02:11] <enry> and then it comes back ok
[02:11] <zipper> enry, if it also happends in windows, you might want to consider trying lowering the MTU on your router. At least that helped for me (dropped it from 1500 to 1300)
[02:11] <zipper> no guarantee that it will work, but i guess its worth a shot
[02:11] <enry> i have a modem
[02:11] <zipper> oh
[02:12] <zipper> hmm, it might have a MTU setting anyway
[02:12] <enry> mtu?
[02:12] <zipper> google
[02:12] <bjwebb> where would there be a list packages on kubuntu feisty default install
[02:12] <jussi01> enry: the reason I suggested the italian channel is you may find someone in there that has the same modem/operator/problem...
[02:12] <enry> i see...
[02:13] <enry> could it be related to ethernet card?
[02:15] <kubuntux> chicco
[02:15] <kubuntux> chre
[02:15] <kubuntux> cvwev
[02:15] <kubuntux> salve
[02:15] <enry> ok, thanks!
[02:15] <kubuntux> a tutti
[02:16] <Jucato> !it | kubuntux
[02:16] <ubotu> kubuntux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:16] <kubuntux> grazie e scusate
[02:23] <tatters> anyone got a centrino b/g card (ipw2200) runnig gusty fails to power up card  "ipw2200: Failed to send TX_POWER: Command timed out."
[02:24] <xerri> join #ungi
[02:29] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all  :)
[02:30] <pag> hello BluesKaj :)
[02:30] <BluesKaj> hi pag
[02:30] <BluesKaj> coffee!
[02:32] <owl> moin. coffee? *looking innocently arround* where?
[02:33] <Turazoor> would anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"
[02:33] <sammy> Hallo
[02:34] <sammy> Hat hier jemand ahnung von css
[02:34] <miles> hi
[02:35] <Jucato> !de | sammy
[02:35] <ubotu> sammy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:36] <Turazoor> would anyone be able to help me with a usb adaptor thats playing up?.. it lags the system out on the my hd copy of kubuntu 7.04 but on the live cd version doesn't lag out (haven't been able to connect to anything/haven't tried) but there are only two differences i can make out and that is the bus number in "lsusb"
[02:36] <sammy> Test
[02:36] <owl> is there a hidden sense in double-posting?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> !nl
[02:36] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:37] <Turazoor> owl: yeah wen nobody replies to my questions
[02:37] <Turazoor> i've tried in several IRC rooms now, so i'm posting in all of em!
[02:37] <Turazoor> the problem is driving me crazy
[02:37] <owl> ^^
[02:38] <jussi01> Turazoor: if you are being helped in one channel, it is considered rude to ask at the same time in another channel
[02:38] <owl> maybe nobody knows a solution? double-posting won't fix the problem. everyone can read it 10 lines above...
[02:38] <jussi01> owl: to be fair, his last post was 40 mins ago
[02:38] <Turazoor> ok peeps....! I'm sorry just annoyed dat all!
[02:38] <Turazoor> thankyou jussi
[02:38] <jussi01> ;)
[02:39] <owl> jussi01: no? 14:32+14:35
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Turazoor, usb external drive ?
[02:39] <Turazoor> nah wieless
[02:39] <Turazoor> *wireless
[02:39] <jussi01> owl: hehe... i didnt even see that one....look about 40 mins ago...lol
[02:39] <Turazoor> kk peeps so it wasn't 40mins, i'm sorry i shan't do it again!
[02:39] <owl> jussi01: hehehe
[02:40] <Turazoor> kk peeps so it wasn't 40mins, i'm sorry i shan't do it again!
[02:40] <Turazoor> lol
[02:40] <jussi01> lol
[02:40] <Turazoor> ouch
[02:40] <jussi01> !hobbsee | Turazoor
[02:40] <ubotu> Turazoor: I phear the stick so shhhhh
[02:40] <Turazoor> what?
[02:41] <Turazoor> lol is that the room bot?
[02:41] <Jucato> !ubotu | Turazoor
[02:41] <ubotu> Turazoor: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:42] <BluesKaj> uhmm Turazoor , wireless isn't as fast as a normal setup...and expecting it be so is very optimistic
[02:43] <Turazoor> BluesKaj: ei, but my device set itself up and worked in the live cd version without any hassle/well me do anything lol! Now once installed it bugs the system out, how does that make sense
[02:44] <BluesKaj> is the live cddrive wireless like the HDD ?
[02:44] <Turazoor> .....wot?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> nm, obviously I can't understand you
[02:46] <Turazoor> basically, when i plug my USB adpator into the PC using the installed version of ubuntu, it lags out, and becomes very sluggish! however if i use the live cd, there's no lag and it places the wireless usb device on a different bus to the one it is on when it lags
[02:46] <phimic> someone in here who use kubuntu 7.10 with compitz and emerald?
[02:47] <BluesKaj> !compiz | phimic
[02:47] <ubotu> phimic: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:47] <jussi01> hehe
[02:47] <jussi01> beat me to iot
[02:48] <BluesKaj> Turazoor, wirelss usb adaptor ?
[02:49] <Turazoor> yeah
[02:50] <BluesKaj> wireless is much slower transmitting the drive info than a normal, even wired usb drive can be
[02:51] <Turazoor> it's a WI-FI usb network adaptor
[02:52] <Turazoor> lol
[02:52] <BluesKaj> yup, expecting it to have no lag is very optimistic as I said previously
[02:53] <Turazoor> no but the whole system lags out!
[02:53] <Turazoor> like the mouse, the icons, the stuff on screen leaves horrible trails etc
[02:55] <Cyclone_nb> is there a php5 mssql extention for kubuntu?
[02:56] <Turazoor> errr... apache lol!
[02:57] <Cyclone_nb> ?
[02:58] <Turazoor> nm
[02:58] <Turazoor> ...wrong channel
[02:59] <kubuntux> sono riuscito ad installare il modem sul mio portatile
[03:00] <drif> !kubuntu-it | kubuntux
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <Turazoor> !peripherals
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peripherals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <kubuntux> ma funziona solo con interfaccia kde   normale?
[03:00] <Jucato> !it | kubuntux
[03:00] <ubotu> kubuntux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:01] <kubuntux> sorry
[03:01] <drif> Jucato: yup :D realised it after I had typed it..
[03:01] <JCDG> so, en verdad usemos solo inlges es mejor para todos, GRACIAS
[03:01] <Jucato> !es | JCDG
[03:01] <ubotu> JCDG: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:02] <zipper> I have 2 soundcards in my pc (both works). How do i select which should be used (for amarok especially)?
[03:02] <JCDG> i was just joking, i0ve already join those channels
[03:02] <zipper> i've been searching the "sound settings", but been unable to find anything
[03:03] <Jucato> :/
[03:06] <blizzz> how can i perform hyphenation in kword? i do net see any menu entry, but a place to make a hook for autmoativ hyphenation. but it did not divide any words..
[03:07] <BluesKaj> Turazoor, your system memory is prolly very busy dealing with heavy wireless traffic the internal HD and all the other devices at once. Run ' top' to see what system processes are using up all your resources
[03:08] <Turazoor> using 7% lol
[03:09] <ubuntu_> I thought of having 2 linux partitions (Kubuntu and the other one for testing different distros). If I make one swap partition, do both of the distros automatically use it, or is it reserved for just one?
[03:09] <hydrogen> both can use it
[03:10] <ubuntu_> Alright thanks. :)
[03:11] <BluesKaj> yeah , but you're on live cd , run top with the external HDD
[03:12] <BluesKaj> well you run ine distro at atime so why have 2 swaps ?
[03:12] <BluesKaj> one
[03:13] <BluesKaj> now my ssytem is lagging  :)
[03:18] <Angelus> who you talkin to BluesKaj?
[03:18] <Angelus> lol
[03:19] <job424> Is there a method for support in this room, or just ask questions?
[03:19] <BluesKaj> everyone Angelus
[03:19] <BluesKaj> !ask
[03:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:19] <hydrogen> well
[03:19] <hydrogen> first you give me a cake
[03:19] <hydrogen> then you ask someone else a question
[03:20] <hydrogen> then you give me a steak
[03:20] <hydrogen> then you ask someone else a question
[03:20] <Angelus> lofl!!
[03:20] <BluesKaj> desert before the steak ?
[03:20] <hydrogen> no
[03:20] <hydrogen> steaks the desert
[03:20] <hydrogen> ofcourse
[03:21] <BluesKaj> must be a sugar freak
[03:21] <job424> wow... hydrogen... Dr Suess here, eh?
[03:22] <job424> Okay, in that case.... I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 and having wireless issues.
[03:22] <BluesKaj> !wireless | job424
[03:22] <ubotu> job424: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:22] <job424> I go to load the networks listed, and it shows the adapter as disabled... I go to re-enable it, and it just disables again... nothing worls
[03:22] <job424> ah
[03:24] <dr_Willis> Right now i got an issue with ktorrent (i think) i can get 99.90% of a torrent - but it WONT get that last little bit.
[03:25] <dr_Willis> I saw a similer issue MONTHS ago. but it got fixed.. the bug has reappeared?
[03:25] <dwidmann_> hydrogen: sounds like a wonderful procedure, so brilliant that I wish I had thought of it myself :D
[03:25] <pag> dr_Willis, are you sure that the issue isn't with that specific torrent?
[03:25] <dr_Willis> pag,  been doing it with 2 torrents now.
[03:25] <Jucato> genii: it's coffee now eh? :)
[03:25] <dr_Willis> both stopped at 99.90 %
[03:26] <dr_Willis> well they dident Stop.. they are still trying to download.
[03:26] <dwidmann_> genii: switched back from beer?
[03:26] <genii> Jucato: At work, it's coffee
[03:26] <Jucato> hhehe
[03:26] <dr_Willis> at .01 k/s and they keepo getting a reset message
[03:26] <genii> dwidmann: See above :)
[03:26] <dr_Willis> Tryin ga differnet torrent client now to 'prove' its a ktorrent issue
[03:26] <BluesKaj> dr_Willis, you got one of those locked torrents that uses you as a server ...i had one that went on for days and it wouldn't finish up , the file was 700mb but i seeded about 4gig before i realized what was going on
[03:27] <dwidmann_> BluesKaj: I envy your internet connection
[03:27] <dr_Willis> BluesKaj,  Huh? 2 in a row tho? and the files are not done.  still missing one 'block' or whatever it is.
[03:27] <BluesKaj> BTW it was also corrupted
[03:27] <dr_Willis> Its possible this one is currupted. :) never can tell
[03:27] <dr_Willis> gotta love split up rars' that contain 100+ zip files
[03:28] <BluesKaj> dwidmann , I wasn't paying much attn at the time :)
[03:28] <Biovore> ^ check the check sum
[03:28] <dwidmann> Now for the big decision, whether to stay on on my laptop or my desktop :s
[03:29] <genii> *answer
[03:29] <genii> I must need more coffee
[03:29] <BluesKaj> dwidmann , my net connection is 550kbs down in real numbers and 300kbs up ..supposedly ultra hi-speed ADSL
[03:29] <dwidmann> laptop it is
[03:30] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: that's fantastic upspeed, and still very good download speed.
[03:31] <dwidmann> I'm more like 100kbs down, 2kbs up, and I get FAPd after about 120-150mb
[03:31] <SlimeyPete> eh? those are terrible speeds
[03:31] <Chousuke> if it's kbs it's not very fantastic, so I'm assuming you mean kBs?
[03:31] <BluesKaj> beats the dialup I had back in '99 when that's all that was available :)
[03:31] <drif> Chousuke: my thoughts exactly..
[03:31] <genii> BluesKaj: Nothing like trying to download an iso over 14.4 modem connection
[03:31] <dwidmann> so wait, yes, definitely answer Chousuke's question BluesKaj, that'd clear something up.
[03:31] <Chousuke> if it's kbs then it's about equivalent to the lowest speed ADSL available here :P
[03:32] <egon> hello, 1 question i guess that kde 4 beta 2 sould release on 27th aug but now it is the 30th aug and i cant see anything like kde 4 beta 2 ... wath happend?
[03:32] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, well i'm paying $50/mos for it
[03:32] <dwidmann> genii: I've done that before, fun times.
[03:32] <egon> xD
[03:32] <drif> Chousuke: they made those connections illegal here.. ;)
[03:32] <Jucato> egon: patience is a virtue :)
[03:32] <genii> dwidmann: Me too :)
[03:32] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: and mine is crappier yet I pay $60/month :( One thing that sucks about living 5 miles out of town.
[03:32] <Chousuke> drif: illegal? :|
[03:32] <Chousuke> uhh.
[03:32] <Chousuke> wtf
[03:33] <egon> Jucato: i know but im so exited about it :D
[03:33] <Jucato> egon: there might be some delays, so best not to wait too much :)
[03:33] <drif> Chousuke: well, operators can't sell so low quality services  :D don't take anything so literally
[03:33] <ksivaji> !info gtk
[03:33] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:33] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: seriously, tell me, is this a 0.5Mbps or a 5Mbps connection :P
[03:33] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, i live in a small town of 5500 ppl , but we have most services that much larger centers have .
[03:33] <ksivaji> !gtk
[03:33] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[03:33] <Chousuke> because 5Mbps is pretty fast, while 0.5Mbps is slow as hell.
[03:34] <dwidmann> I used to have a 5.5MBs connection. I miss those days :(
[03:34] <egon> Jucato: so do you mean it may come Tomorrow?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> Chousuke, real world is 550 kbs , adverted at 5mbs ...different calcs tho , I think
[03:35] <Jucato> egon: it may or it may not. the schedule is for "tagging", not for "release"
[03:35] <egon> Im so excited!!! xD
[03:35] <Jucato> two different things
[03:35] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: What you need to specify is bits or bytes
[03:35] <egon> Jucato: k thx for infomation :D
[03:35] <Jucato> egon: there might be a deloy for the actual release itself, so try to calm down just a bit more :)
[03:35] <BluesKaj> yea the 5mbs is bits methinks
[03:35] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: 5Mbps (megabits per second) would be ~550 megabytes per second
[03:35] <Jucato> actual stable 4.0 release
[03:36] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: what they advertise in is kbps/mbps, what you look at when downloading someting is KBs/MBs
[03:36] <SlimeyPete> Chousuke: kilobytes ;p
[03:36] <egon> Jucato: k i try to but i would be hard xD
[03:36] <Chousuke> SlimeyPete: riight
[03:36] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: well, then it's quite speedy. :)
[03:36] <egon> it will xD
[03:36] <Jucato> heh
[03:36] <egon> ( gramma xD )
[03:36] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, yeah I'm aware of that
[03:36] <Chousuke> 550 megabytes per second would be fun
[03:36] <Jucato> egon: if you really can't wait and willing to take the risks and pains, just compile it all :P
[03:36] <drif> rather
[03:36] <dwidmann> I don't get why exactly they do that, must be the bigger number :(
[03:36] <Chousuke> you'd need 10Gbps ethernet and *fast* hard drives.
[03:37] <Chousuke> or loads and loads of RAM
[03:37] <BluesKaj> I live about 500meters from the switch , which helps
[03:37] <SlimeyPete> dwidmann: that's exactly it.
[03:37] <drif> BluesKaj: not soo speedy then, but atleast upspeed is decent, mine is the bottleneck :-\ 8/1Mbps
[03:37] <egon> Jucato: xD nono that to much work for me im Putridly
[03:37] <dwidmann> They like to sell big numbers ... I can only imagine what Intel went through with some of their less educated customers when they switched to the Core Duos & Cure 2 Duos
[03:37] <Chousuke> heh
[03:37] <Chousuke> <3 Core2Duo
[03:38] <dwidmann> Yes
[03:38] <dwidmann> That
[03:38] <egon> MouldMouldMouldMouldMouldMould
[03:38] <egon> xD
[03:38] <Chousuke> AMD needs to one-up intel again so they'll make even better processors.
[03:38] <dwidmann> My fingers are dyslexic and they don't speel terribbbly weell.
[03:38] <dr_Willis> Chousuke,  yep. gotta love the leapfrogging cpu makers.
[03:39] <dr_Willis> I cant even keep todays cpu's straight...
[03:39] <Chousuke> At least we have two of them, kicking each other in the behind. :P
[03:39] <dr_Willis> the quad core s seem a bit slower..but would they be worth the extra cost.. and so forth.
[03:39] <Ace2016> omg i just found the best thing ever, xgl + ut2004 gives rendering problems!!!
[03:40] <dr_Willis> dont even get me started on the HUGE mess of nvidia cards/chips/makes now in video cards.
[03:40] <dwidmann> Ace2016: sounds fantastic
[03:40] <Ace2016> everything is very dark apart from players and lights and some textures, and you can shoot the enemy from far away, i got kicked fo spawn killing!!! :D
[03:40] <SlimeyPete> xgl + opengl gives rendering problems ;)
[03:40] <Chousuke> Ace2016: :P
[03:40] <Ace2016> you can see everyone very clearly
[03:40] <Ace2016> but framerate sucks
[03:40] <job424> Okay, I'm back... and I couldnt find a single bit of information in relevance to *MY* wireless issue
[03:40] <Chousuke> that's unintentional cheating I suppose.
[03:40] <Ace2016> yea but its great
[03:41] <Chousuke> though xgl having rendering trouble isn't exactly news.
[03:41] <dwidmann> Kind of like the turbo button deal of the past?
[03:42] <dr_Willis> dwidmann,  a friend at work some how got "EverQuest1" to go in to turbo mode by starting the game on his laptop, on battery power.. (thus the cpu was slower) Then pluigging it into the outlet.
[03:42] <dwidmann> How to spell xgl: t-r-o-u-b-l-e
[03:42] <Chousuke> dwidmann: the turbo button was great! My friend overclocked his Pentium to 999MHz with it!
[03:42] <dr_Willis> The game then speed up the clock, and his mana regen and so forth skyrocketd.
[03:43] <Chousuke> (if you held the button for long enough, the MHz would never stop increasing)
[03:43] <dwidmann> dr_Willis: interesting
[03:43] <dwidmann> Chousuke: That's insanely fast for a P1 :O
[03:43] <drif> Chousuke: you mean just tweaked the actual numbers on panel? ;)
[03:43] <Chousuke> drif: yeah ;P
[03:43] <dr_Willis> Ok.. letting another torrent client try my torrent.
[03:43] <Chousuke> but hey, it was an LCD panel!
[03:43] <Chousuke> and it said "999"
[03:43] <drif> so it must be true.
[03:44] <Chousuke> yes.
[03:44] <drif> everything written is solid
[03:44] <dr_Willis> turn the lcd upside down = evil pc. ;)
[03:44] <dwidmann> But of course, the things we read would never lie to us.
[03:44] <Chousuke> drif: everything written on lcd displays
[03:44] <Chousuke> drif: my old powerbook ran at 666MHz in power saving mode. :)
[03:44] <drif> Chousuke: especially those - and for some people maybe occasionally found carved on rocks
[03:45] <job424> Can anyone assist me with that issue?
[03:45] <drif> Chousuke: I smell #offtopic :D
[03:45] <dwidmann> job424: sure thing
[03:45] <job424> I was referred to the wireless community pages
[03:46] <Chousuke> drif: true.
[03:46] <job424> and didnt find any information on the problem I'm having
[03:46] <dwidmann> /j #kubuntu-offtopic dr_Willis dwidmann Chousuke drif :)
[03:46] <job424> and have been searching for 2 days
[03:46] <BluesKaj> job424, broadcom ?
[03:46] <job424> ack... i want to say so... let me check to be 100% sure
[03:46] <job424> its a gateway lappy
[03:46] <drif> dwidmann: interesting way of 'telling' yourself to join as well :D
[03:47] <dwidmann> drif: I found it amusing anyhow
[03:47] <dr_Willis> Is it offtopic to say theres a Cricket in my computer room on a shelf right next to me..making LOUD chirping noises? :)
[03:48] <dr_Willis> Gotta find him and.. remove him. BRB.
[03:48] <job424> Yes, broadcom I believe
[03:48] <job424> Right now I pull up the KNetworkManager... do the manual configuration...
[03:48] <job424> and it shows the eth0 (wired) as enabled, and the eth1 (wireless) as disabled
[03:48] <BluesKaj> job424, there ppl here who can help if you tell us which wireless card your laptop has
[03:49] <job424> I just did above, Broadcom
[03:49] <venik> Why do programs disappear all of a sudden, spontaneously?  Basket (Notes utility) has disappeared several times...
[03:49] <job424> then when I go to re-enable the wireless... it just disables instantly again
[03:50] <BluesKaj> oh sorry , was typing and not reading at the same time ...terrible habit to have :)
[03:50] <job424> :)
[03:50] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[03:51] <dr_Willis> well my Ktorrent Issues seem to be ktorrent related. The torrent is finishing in Deluge.
[03:51] <dr_Willis> Still not sure how to report the bug.   Or if it was really a bug.
[03:51] <dr_Willis> could of been some tracker/seeders being dumb.
[03:52] <drif> dr_Willis: I've noticed those as well
[03:52] <dwidmann> job424: sudo lshw -class network
[03:52] <drif> dr_Willis: need to finish the last percentages (sometimes) with another client
[03:52] <dr_Willis> drif,  yep. Bingo.
[03:53] <job424> Yes, 100% broadcom adapter :)
[03:53] <dr_Willis> drif,  had similer issue ages ago.. then it was fixed.. now its back
[03:53] <drif> dr_Willis: which version are you using?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[03:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:54] <dr_Willis> 2.2.1 i think. got deluge going at themoment.
[03:54] <job424> yeah, we've establihed that ubotu... didnt help
[03:54] <job424> They were working on actualy helping me.
[03:54] <BluesKaj> c'mon you wireless experts .. job424 needs help !
[03:54] <dr_Willis> !bot
[03:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:55] <job424> yeah... ps i'm kubuntu illiterate :D
[03:55] <job424> *everyone runs out of the room*
[03:56] <BluesKaj> <---knows dick about wireless ...I'm old school , I beleive in wired conns
[03:56] <job424> I would wire it, but the woman wont want a 50 foot wire in the house.
[03:56] <job424> hell, theres already a 100 ft cat6 in the attic from an abandoned project.. haha
[03:56] <drif> dr_Willis: would you recommend it?
[03:56] <dwidmann>  BluesKaj: if you get a laptop that will change
[03:57] <Jucato> anyone here familiar with Add/Remove Programs (Adept Installer)?
[03:58] <Jucato> just wondering if anyone knew under what name build-essential would be there
[03:58] <SlimeyPete> it's just called "build-essential"
[03:58] <BluesKaj> i have 50 ft of cat 5 running under the floor from router on wifes pc to this one
[03:58] <dr_Willis> ive hjad very few issues with ktorrent, other then this hanging at the last % bug.
[03:58] <Murlis> howdy!
[03:58] <BluesKaj> I could move the router but this setup works ok
[03:58] <drif> dr_Willis: which is quite annoying one..
[03:59] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: maybe in adept manager, but not in Add/remove programs
[03:59] <Murlis> Guess whos back :)
[03:59] <drif> Jucato: why stick with add/remove :-\
[03:59] <Murlis> I still have problem with that freebsd drive under Ubuntu...
[03:59] <Jucato> drif: because I'm trying to sort of confirm a "bug" :)
[03:59] <drif> Jucato: ah, got ya
[03:59] <Jucato> or rather, confirm an undesirable behavior
[03:59] <Murlis> But I have another question, easier I hope
[04:00] <dr_Willis> Yea. My torrent is Done, :)
[04:00] <dwidmann> now to pause that upgrade again lest I want to get FAPd :(
[04:00] <Murlis> I have folder that is shared to windows users via samba and I also need rw access to that folder via ftp for authorised users
[04:01] <dranas> good morning
[04:01] <Murlis> samba is configured that all local network machines have access, no user/pass
[04:01] <Murlis> and then changed files or new files belong to nobody
[04:02] <Murlis> but then users from ftp (one user) can't change nor delete the file
[04:02] <dwidmann> morning dranas
[04:02] <Murlis> how should I configure the folder permissions or samba or ftp so that everybody has rw access?
[04:03] <dr_Willis> for samba its one way. :) for ftp its not the same I think
[04:03] <dr_Willis> that 'samba doc' package has the using samba book  in it- that has examples of a public share.
[04:03] <dr_Willis> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    19 2007-07-12 17:44 Public -> /media/sda1/Public/
[04:03] <dr_Willis> is my Public samba dir.
[04:04] <dr_Willis> but i dont think i got it working where ANYONE can get in with no name/password
[04:04] <dr_Willis> theusers have tohave an account
[04:04] <Murlis> so then windows users will receive password promt upon opening share?
[04:05] <dr_Willis> Yes they do. Well actually windows uses their xp password by de4fault IU think. so it uses that - so they never see a requestor.
[04:05] <dr_Willis> but somt times it gets confused.
[04:05] <Murlis> so then I will create user accounts on ubuntu for users, add them to one group and add ftp user to the same group?
[04:05] <dr_Willis> I set up windows users/liunux users/passwords identical on my lan.
[04:06] <dr_Willis> I just set a smbpasswd -a USERNAME for each windows users i want to access the shares. (and make them a linux account also)
[04:06] <Murlis> ok, I see
[04:06] <dr_Willis> I dont use ftp.
[04:06] <dr_Willis> SSH is much better for my needs. :)
[04:06] <owl> ssh? sftp?
[04:06] <job424> okay.. well let me ask a question then about the issue...
[04:06] <Murlis> what's the difference?
[04:06] <job424> http://i-eat-noobs.blogspot.com/2007/08/get-wireless-working-in-ubuntu-704.html
[04:07] <drif> dr_Willis: with smaller files it's ok - but large quantities - not really
[04:07] <dwidmann> ssh = a secure shell, things can also be tunneled through it
[04:07] <dwidmann> !ssh
[04:07] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:07] <job424> On this page, it says "place them in the same folder, and run the commands from the terminal server"
[04:07] <job424> what folder should they be in?
[04:08] <dr_Willis> drif,  vista has been such a pain. I use winscp and ssh on it . over samba. :) silly vista
[04:08] <drif> dr_Willis: I haven't had a single encounter with vista ;) and proud of it
[04:08] <Murlis> dr_Willis thank you! I will try your suggestion!
[04:08] <dr_Willis> drif,  i fixed vista on the wifes laptop ... by instlling xp.
[04:08] <job424> "requested operation requires superuser privlege" ?????
[04:08] <dr_Willis> WIndows 95 booted on her laptop - then crashed on installing drivers.
[04:09] <dr_Willis> job424,  sounds like a root needing task. use sudo, or gksu, or kdesu
[04:09] <owl> wtf are you doing with your wifes' laptop?
[04:09] <drif> job424: sudo yourcommandwhichfailshere
[04:09] <dr_Willis> owl,  makingit work at a useable speed for her. Vista + 512ram = bad.
[04:09] <dwidmann> "yes | sudo apt-get install openssh-server", life made easy :)
[04:09] <dr_Willis> owl,  so in went a new clean hd + xp on it.
[04:10] <owl> *cough* but win 95?
[04:10] <job424> sudo dpkg
[04:10] <Datradan> Hi!
[04:10] <owl> hi *
[04:10] <dwidmann> dr_willis: or in gutsy, kdesudo :)
[04:10] <Datradan> i'm new on this channel :-)
[04:10] <dr_Willis> owl,  she just plays solitare and web surfes on it.
[04:10] <owl> *sigh*
[04:10] <Datradan> sorry for my eghlish+
[04:10] <dwidmann> Datradan: hi
[04:10] <job424> i mean.... sudo dpkg -i --force-depends nsdisgtk_*.deb
[04:10] <dr_Willis> owl,  a big new $350 laptop. :) it was on sale.
[04:10] <drif> dr_Willis: yeah, I refused to buy laptop to my mother - all of'em bundled with vista these days :D so I gave her mine which had oem xp
[04:10] <Datradan> but i've hidden the menu bar in konqueror and now i can't restore it XD
[04:11] <dranas> oi i just upgraded from dapper to edgy, and it seems adept has vanished
[04:11] <owl> dr_Willis: yeah... might you want give me the laptop of your wife? :)
[04:11] <dwidmann> drif: http://www.dell.com/open
[04:11] <dwidmann> drif: http://www.system76.com
[04:11] <dwidmann> Not all;)
[04:11] <Datradan> nobody can help me?
[04:11] <owl> dr_Willis: oeeeeeeeeeeeh. no, thx, i don't need a wife, but a laptop :)
[04:12] <rustalot> how do I upgrade to gutsy tribe 5?
[04:12] <drif> dwidmann: true, but using some linux derivate wouldn't be wise - I'm living too far away if vnc/network fails and then no one locally couldn't help her out
[04:12] <dwidmann> Datradan: ctrl + m
[04:13] <radioaktivstorm> hello, ubuntu's pretty busy. maybe you all can help. I cannot connect to open networks using my linux. i can connect to ones ive been on before. but for example it will see the free wireless at the airport.. but it will not connect to them it gets partway through and then quits... suggestions?
[04:13] <owl> .oO( radioaktivstorm ?! strange nicknames... )
[04:14] <rafal__> g
[04:14] <aguitel> anyone helpme ?
[04:14] <Datradan> thanks now i try
[04:15] <dwidmann> radioaktivstorm: ever since I upgraded (partially) to gutsy I don't even get that much, the wireless section has disappeared from my knetworkmanager :(
[04:15] <dranas> oh wow it uninstalled adept
[04:15] <GuyFromHell> any way to get the system try icon thingies that didn't properly load into the system tray thingie to dock in there afterwords?
[04:15] <drif> people using their kubuntu for music/midi/audio production here?
[04:15] <radioaktivstorm> owl, it doesnt ever need a number on the webs when i feel like using it :P
[04:15] <radioaktivstorm> dwidmann ouch :( thats not cool at all
[04:16] <GuyFromHell> nevermind... reloading... compiz.... fixed it
[04:16] <dwidmann> radioaktivstorm: much to my dismay I've now turned off wpa on my router and I'm connecting manually ...
[04:16] <blekos> hi, anyone could tell me how to upgrade to gutsy from command line?
[04:17] <dranas> yes
[04:17] <drif> and if I install ubuntustudio - am I under wrath of gnome? :-\
[04:17] <dr_Willis> !upgrade
[04:17] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:17] <Jucato> blekos: manually change all "feisty" to "gutsy" in /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:17] <dr_Willis> Yea.. what he said. :)
[04:18] <Jucato> dr_Willis: although he did say "to gutsy"....
[04:18] <dwidmann> blekos: sudo sed s/feisty/gutsy/ -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:18] <Jucato> :)
[04:18] <blekos> ok thx
[04:18] <dwidmann> drat, beaten to it
[04:18] <dranas> use sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list in the shell to edit it
[04:18] <Jucato> dwidmann: dist-upgrade :)
[04:18] <Jucato> dranas: in the shell? how can he run kate? :)
[04:18] <dwidmann> Jucato: magic?
[04:18] <Jucato> imagemagick or graphicsmagick? :)
[04:18] <blekos> what does sed s does?
[04:18] <dranas> ipen up konsole and try it youll see
[04:19] <dranas> open*
[04:19] <blekos> just to know
[04:19] <dranas> otherwise it wont let you save
[04:19] <radioaktivstorm> drif, im sure you can install the kde packages if you want them on ubuntu studio
[04:19] <Jucato> dranas: he's on the command line, right? so presuming he doesn'thave GUI running
[04:19] <dwidmann> blekos: search and replace all instances of feisty with gutsy :)
[04:19] <blekos> kool, i must write it down :)
[04:19] <dwidmann> be back in 5
[04:19] <dranas> i really dont think hes on the command line right now
[04:19] <Jucato> blekos: sed - filter and transform text, basically search and replace
[04:20] <Jucato> dranas: not right now. but his question implies that when he makes the upgrade he would be
[04:20] <Jucato> also
[04:20] <Jucato> !kdesu | dranas
[04:20] <ubotu> dranas: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:20] <dranas> or perhaps hes just gonna open a terminal and type the command in
[04:21] <Jucato> if you say so
[04:22] <radioaktivstorm> ooo good info ubotu. ill remember that one for the kde apps
[04:22] <dranas> thats funny it uninstalled adept
[04:22] <radioaktivstorm> :P
[04:22] <genii> *coffee
[04:22] <owl> thx genii :)
[04:22] <genii> owl: np :)
[04:23] <radioaktivstorm> using this windows is killing me >_< so slow... so unresponsive.
[04:23] <blekos> s is for subtitue and i?
[04:24] <stephane> join #ungi_cgt
[04:24] <The_Machine> anyone have this problem with Krdc where it just says "Establishing connection" and hangs there?
[04:24] <Jucato> blekos: man:/sed in konqueror to find out
[04:24] <Jucato> or man sed in konsole
[04:25] <sebbar> hi, I remember there was a package to have video previews in konqueror, can anybody tell me what its name was? tnx
[04:25] <radioaktivstorm> you can read the man graphically in konqueror O_O
[04:25] <radioaktivstorm> awesome.
[04:25] <blekos> ok thnx
[04:25] <Jucato> radioaktivstorm: man:/ and info:/
[04:26] <Jucato> there's also a special apt:/ in Kubuntu (only)
[04:27] <radioaktivstorm> Jucato: very interesting.... konqueror is more powerful than i thought. i was impressed by the ftp and sftp and stuff... but wow. thanks for the info :D
[04:27] <dwidmann> blekos: i for "in place"
[04:27] <blekos> thank u
[04:28] <Jucato> radioaktivstorm: system:/ applications:/ sftp:/ fish:/
[04:29] <dwidmann> radioaktivstorm: pull up khelp, look at the "KIO Slaves section" for a more or less complete list of those
[04:29] <Jucato> of course, SUSE has another very useful one, sysinfo:/
[04:30] <dwidmann> Jucato: yeah, that one did look pretty nice, can't you get it off of kde-apps.org though?
[04:30] <Jucato> you can I think. someone made a kubuntu package
[04:30] <dranas> im going back to sleep good....umm...morning i guess
[04:31] <Jucato> sebbar: libarts1-xine
[04:31] <dwidmann> I wish I could go back to sleep :(
[04:31] <Jucato> I wish I could sleep early
[04:31] <radioaktivstorm> thanks Jucato, dwidmann :)  still need to get the wifi up and running so i can connect to the internet :\
[04:32] <Jucato> aw...
[04:32] <underdog5004> genii, darn it, I recompiled with all the default options, but I still screwed up cron...it fails to load.bleagh
[04:32] <radioaktivstorm> wifi works.. but only on the nets that i have configured... not open ones.... starbucks airports etc etc etc no wifi :(
[04:33] <genii> underdog5004: Thats bizarre
[04:33] <underdog5004> yeah, I know
[04:33] <underdog5004> when I do sudo /etc/init.d/cron start, it says [fail] 
[04:34] <dwidmann> underdog5004: if cron is giving you trouble, perhaps anacron will work?
[04:35] <underdog5004> dwidmann, it may work, but it's just not worth my time
[04:35] <underdog5004> I'll just reinstall the old kernel I haed
[04:35] <turazoor> hi all,
[04:35] <ubuntu> hi
[04:36] <underdog5004> actually, instead of rolling back that far, I'm gonna try out the -lowlatency build that's in the repos
[04:36] <turazoor> .... anyone know why whilst on the live cd for Kubuntu 7.04, my wireless network usb adaptor works, but when i install kubuntu why it glitches and slows the system
[04:36] <snowdonkey> Hey, can someone tell me how to access Power Management options in Dapper? Like here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowerManagementFeedback  I can only find the laptop power configuration
[04:39] <flake> how do I check to see if my modem is working, it's not in the kde/settings/periphereal menu
[04:39] <turazoor> it has something to do with the Bus
[04:39] <turazoor> anyone know how i can change these Buses?
[04:40] <turazoor> grrr
[04:40] <turazoor> lol
[04:43] <Mr_Sonoma> turazoor, you were looking for me earlier?
[04:43] <dwidmann> turazoor: try checking your /var/log/syslog file, it may give you some hints that someone more experienced may be able to decipher (or that you can google :) )
[04:45] <dwidmann> flake: well, if it's a modem, to see if it's working, just connect to and/or use the net? I would imagine ...
[04:45] <bbeck_> I use AIM through Kopete, and I've noticed that for the past week or so, I'll just get dropped off the AIM network after long periods of inactivity, and when I want to get back on I have to exit Kopete wait a couple minutes then start Kopete back up before I can connect.  Has anyone else noticed this issue?
[04:45] <flake> umm.. i have broadband
[04:45] <flake> want to fax
[04:46] <flake> it's not configured in networking option
[04:46] <dwidmann> attempt to fax?
[04:46] <dwidmann> flake: to see if linux sees it, you can use the command "sudo lspci -v"
[04:46] <dwidmann> or perhaps "sudo lshw"
[04:47] <flake> us robotics unknown device, Communication Controller
[04:48] <flake> unclaimed communication controller
[04:51] <dwidmann> Wow! Setting up openssh-server and using fish:/ in konqueror is 100x easier than trying to use samba or nfs!
[04:51] <Jucato> you could also use sftp:/
[04:51] <Jucato> :)
[04:51] <dwidmann> Jucato: how much setup does that requiree?
[04:51] <radioaktivstorm> oh hey, why cannot i use file transfer in kopete under aim?
[04:52] <Jucato> dwidmann: nothing
[04:52] <underdog5004> genii, I just installed the -lowlatency kernel, and cron is still messed up
[04:52] <dwidmann> (openssh required me to install the package, and I was good to go ... I was really impressed after trying to force samba and nfs to work ...)
[04:52] <underdog5004> I'm going for a reinstall
[04:52] <dwidmann> (samba used to work well, then feisty came along)
[04:52] <genii> hmm
[04:53] <Mr_Sonoma> lol i thought i was the only one that went about blind setting up samba
[04:53] <jucato-kubu> oh....
[04:53] <bbeck_> radioaktivstorm: file transfer isn't supported for AIM in Kopete yet.
[04:53] <radioaktivstorm> bbeck_ oh.
[04:53] <TonserPerson> hello :)
[04:53] <jucato-kubu> dwidmann: just install openssh-server on the machine that will run the ssh daemon, then on the client machine, just sftp:/ to the server
[04:53] <dwidmann> !adeptfix | dwidmann
[04:54] <TonserPerson> i get an error when i try to boot the Kubuntu install CD with my mouse plugged in
[04:54] <TonserPerson> and it seems like i cant start the installer with my keyboard
[04:55] <TonserPerson> what to do?
[04:55] <dwidmann> jucato-kubu: come to think of it, I should probably also get rid of nfs and samba to close a few security holes .. oh, and what differences will I see between using fish and using sftp?
[04:55] <jucato-kubu> hehe I always forget the answer to that
[04:56] <jucato-kubu> but afaik, sftp is much safer and fish relies on perl hacks
[04:56] <dwidmann> hmm, what's safer about it, you've aroused my curiosity :)
[04:57] <jucato-kubu> SFTP is a Secure file transfer protocol. sftp is an interactive file transfer program, similar to ftp, but it performs all operations over an encrypted ssh transport. It may use many of the features of ssh, including public key authentication and compression.
[04:57] <tim__> hello, I need to find which proccess (ID) is using a file, so I can kill that proccess. is there a command?
[04:57] <jucato-kubu> dwidmann: there are some descriptions in KHelpCenter
[04:59] <TonserPerson> can anyone help me?
[04:59] <bbeck_> tim__: try using lsof
[05:00] <tim__> tnks
[05:01] <lnx_> how i cam make the the tasks in the taskbar to have borders and not to fade  ?
[05:04] <venik> Why do programs disappear all of a sudden, spontaneously?  Basket (Notes utility) has disappeared several times...
[05:04] <arash> venik,  eh, is this happening all the time or just happens this sesson?
[05:04] <venik> It happened several times
[05:05] <venik> with this program
[05:05] <dwidmann> Jucato: I don't really see it saying anywhere in there either comparing the two or their security :\ (just read both help pages, and the sftp man page)
[05:05] <arash> venik, is it just basket?
[05:05] <venik> It did happen with other programs, but only with basket more than once
[05:06] <venik> when I re-installed Basket, it still had all the notes I stored in it
[05:06] <arash> hmmm, do you think it can be crashes (I'm actually noob :p, so I have no idea)
[05:06] <Jucato> dwidmann: sorry couldn't give you anymore info. but I've read/heard that somewhere before
[05:06] <arash> venik, yea, you have to remove it's application data from your home folder
[05:07] <venik> No-- I was grateful that it did not lose the data-- I nned these data!
[05:07] <venik> need even
[05:08] <philipp__> hi
[05:08] <dwidmann> Jucato: I guess this is as good a time to stress test my new wireless network as ever eh? (copying back and forth between my desktop and my laptop)
[05:09] <dwidmann> (only 13 gb :D)
[05:09] <Jucato> ok. you use fish. i'm using sftp
[05:09] <Jucato> heheh half that size :)
[05:09] <Jucato> no wait, 10GB after all hahah
[05:09] <dwidmann> I'm using sftp atm, I'm going to take your word for it until I find out more, seems to work the same anyhow.
[05:10] <dwidmann> crap, I'm only getting 1.2MB/s
[05:10] <dwidmann> I wonder if that's related to the problems I've had since the last reboot most likely regarding my partial upgrade to gutsy.
[05:10] <SlimeyPete> transferring files over ssh = slow
[05:11] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: that's true too.
[05:11] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: though both computers are quite fast and should be able to handle the encryption relatively well
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> dwidmann: I've never got better than 1.3mbytes/sec using ssh, even on fast computers.
[05:12] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: I see
[05:12] <Jucato> I have 1.5 MB/s
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> though my experience is by no means exhaustive ;)
[05:12] <dwidmann> So I guess maybe it isn't the network :(
[05:13] <Jucato> wireless to wired..
[05:13] <dwidmann> Yup
[05:13] <Jucato> laptop to desktop heh :)
[05:13] <egon> hello, 1 question Kde 4 is now a little bit late so is it still right tath kde 4 comes to kubuntu 7.10? i hope so xD
[05:13] <Jucato> nope
[05:13] <SlimeyPete> egon: not by default
[05:13] <egon> OO
[05:13] <Jucato> it was never planned that KDE 4 will be on 7.10 by default
[05:13] <egon> way?
[05:13] <egon> :(
[05:13] <Jucato> way
[05:13] <SlimeyPete> but you will be able to install it
[05:13] <dwidmann> egon: it might be available in 8.04, time will tell
[05:14] <Jucato> dwidmann: not by default again
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> egon: 4.0 will only have been out a month at most so it will be very immature
[05:14] <egon> -.- i hate it
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> lots of bugs
[05:14] <dwidmann> drat, I know it had been discussed to death :(
[05:14] <Jucato> egon: BUT, the big BUTT is that there will be KDE 4.0 packages as soon as possible
[05:14] <Jucato> egon: there's really no problem. you can just install it over 7.10
[05:15] <egon> way dont they do 2 kubuntu 7.10 versions 1 with kde 3.5.7 and 1 with kde 4 rc1/2 xD
[05:15] <Jucato> (and 8.04 for that matter)
[05:15] <Jucato> egon: because that is terribly inefficient
[05:15] <dwidmann> What's the current KDE 4.0 "release schedule" anyhow, last I read it was supposed to be sometime not too far in the future
[05:15] <SlimeyPete> egon: I wouldn't worry too much. The initial release isn't likely to be much bett than KDE3 - a lot of the work has gone on "behind the scenes" and the advances won't show up till later on
[05:15] <Jucato> and why would we release a Kubuntu with an RC desktop?
[05:16] <egon> is it hard to install kde 4 bye adept?
[05:16] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: er... that's not entirely correct either
[05:16] <Jucato> egon: right now? KDE 4 Beta? not that hard.
[05:16] <dwidmann> Jucato: egon, hmm, shouldn't be, I might try that after I finish my upgrade to gutsy (on my laptop)
[05:16] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: no? It's the impression I've got so far
[05:16] <dwidmann> I got FAPd again :(
[05:17] <egon> i mean in the final of 7.10
[05:17] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: most of the advances will already be there in KDE 4.0, but 1) not all and 2) not in their "perfect" form
[05:17] <egon> so it is hard ( for a linux noob ) to install kde 4.0 on kubuntu 7.10
[05:17] <Jucato> egon: we'll have to see how it pans out
[05:18] <egon> or not?
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: mmm, but most of them are not user-visible, right?
[05:18] <dr_Willis> a noob dosent need to be messing with kde4.
[05:18] <Jucato> egon: at this point in time, it's too early to determine how the transition will go for any distro
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> that's what I meant
[05:18] <dr_Willis> :) theres not a lot to it
[05:18] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: Oxygen is there (all of it), Plasma (most of it). Phonon and Solid will be visible in some ways
[05:18] <egon> hmmmm :(
[05:18] <Jucato> Strigit too
[05:18] <Jucato> Strigi*
[05:18] <egon> i want to have kde 4.0 :((((((((((((
[05:18] <Jucato> egon: word of advice, don't get too hyped on KDE 4.0
[05:19] <arash> alsamixer has any respective program for Kubuntu, orshould i use it on Kubuntu too?
[05:19] <egon> but someone told me that kubuntu 7.10 have 2 versions 1 with kde 3 and 1 with kde 4
[05:19] <Jucato> egon: nothing definite yet. what's certain is that KDE 4.0 "packages" will be made available
[05:19] <egon> k
[05:20] <Jucato> whether or not we release ISO's of 7.10 with KDE 4.0 by default... that depends on a lot of variables
[05:20] <egon> but wath do you thing yes or no? :D
[05:20] <Jucato> we're not even sure when 4.0 will *really* be released at this point
[05:20] <Jucato> egon: can you predict with exact binary truth what will happen to you tomorrow? :)
[05:20] <dr_Willis> Dont evenknow whats in it.. but people want it. :)
[05:20] <egon> xD
[05:20] <Jucato> dr_Willis: one word: hype
[05:21] <dr_Willis> Jucato,  'the next great hype' :)
[05:21] <dr_Willis> Marketing!
[05:21] <tim__> the desktop widget things look nice, a lot like ensemble DM or whatever it was called
[05:21] <tim__> or vista
[05:21] <egon> yes but the beta 1 works good on live cd :D
[05:21] <Jucato> DM?
[05:21] <Jucato> er... vista is the one that came late into the game :)
[05:22] <tim__> desktop thing, it doesnt have icons, it has a sort of active desktop, a bit like igoogle on your desktop
[05:22] <egon> so thats a good
[05:22] <egon> thing
[05:22] <egon> xD
[05:22] <tim__> so what have people heard is in KDE4?
[05:23] <tim__> DW: yeah your right, because of that, and lack of taskbar ensemble is a bit naff
[05:23] <Jucato> it goes like this: you ignore your desktop or maxmize windows because your desktop is practically useless except as a dumping site...
[05:24] <Jucato> transform your desktop as something not just "beneath" all your other apps, and give it dyanmic usefulness, and you'll use it
[05:25] <tim__> talking of cool but impractical, look at this: http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid=3693940921097010804&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=BumpTop&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DM0ODskdEPnQ&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D3693940921097010804%26q%3DBumpTop%26total%3D35%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H22Yly9ok22UYvMGj0z_jsJibU0JeA
[05:25] <dr_Willis> I perfer panel applets. :)
[05:25] <dr_Willis> i can see them
[05:25] <tim__> (3d desktop thing)
[05:25] <dr_Willis> ive not seen many 3d desktopp things that make my productivity higher. :)
[05:26] <Jucato> don't confuse Plasma w/ those things :)
[05:26] <Jucato> Plasma != 3D desktop
[05:26] <dr_Willis> Ithink they need to work on namoing things. :)
[05:26] <dr_Willis> They should name stuff after.. cheeses! :)
[05:27] <Jucato> the theme for this release seems to be "elements" at least for the pillars
[05:27] <dr_Willis> is thers also a 'solid, liquid,gas' apps? :)
[05:27] <Jucato> Solid, Phonon, Oxygen, Plasma
[05:28] <tim__> whats phonon? I mean in physics
[05:28] <dr_Willis> Bah! id perfer cheese names! :)
[05:28] <dr_Willis> some partical i belive.
[05:28] <Jucato> yeah that one
[05:28] <Jucato> physics
[05:28] <dr_Willis> so their 'theme' is rather broad. :)
[05:29] <Jucato> yeah elements, physics, whatever
[05:29] <tim__> well at least they dont all have a k in front this time.
[05:29] <Jucato> I'm not a scientist
[05:29] <dr_Willis> The them is 'geeky things' :)
[05:30] <owl> .oO( geek, physics? )
[05:30] <owl> *scrollback*
[05:30] <dr_Willis> Greek :_
[05:30] <Jucato> poor greeks :(
[05:30] <dr_Willis> Yep. fires seem bad.
[05:30] <Jucato> omg! I'm bad :(
[05:31] <Jucato> too much offtopic... sorry :(
[05:31] <dr_Willis> tim__,  i sort of Perfered the K In front. :)
[05:31] <owl> .oO( guess i'm mentally demaged. that must be a side-effect of having a boyfriend who is physicist ^^ )
[05:31] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d2a705571       help me i am not getting second button
[05:31] <dr_Willis> I just wish gnome and kde would get together on naming the common apps similarty
[05:32] <Jucato> boy...friend...?
[05:32] <Jucato> ksivaji: er wrong place to ask
[05:32] <owl> *g* no, i'm not gay. but female :P
[05:32] <Jucato> hah ok!
[05:32] <Jucato> lol sorry about that
[05:32] <owl> np ;)
[05:32] <Jucato> ksivaji: #gtk or whatever
[05:32] <cybrhuman> Hi, I copied my xorg.conf to another folder using konqueror and that caused some configuration to point to the newly created file for xorg.conf. I would like to change X to use the original file again. could someone tell me how?
[05:32] <ksivaji> Jucato ok
[05:33] <dr_Willis> cybrhuman,  that shouldent of changed anything to point to the new created file
[05:33] <xbehave> i cant get a graphical login on my system, i get an error for a freefontpath
[05:33] <dr_Willis> unless you made a 'link' and not a copy
[05:33] <Jucato> xbehave: feisty or gutsy?
[05:33] <xbehave> fesity
[05:33] <dwidmann> xbehave: an error about a font path, like one not existing? I get that all the time, I think it can be safely ignored
[05:34] <xbehave> dwidmann, i get to see the error if i startx after login, because xorg crashes, and i think a similar thing happens when i login after kdm starts because it crashes me back to login
[05:34] <dwidmann> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[05:35] <dr_Willis> dwidmann,  thats just a warning.
[05:35] <dr_Willis> you dont have the russian fonts inzstalled.
[05:35] <dwidmann> exactly
[05:35] <dr_Willis> (WW) = warning.
[05:35] <xbehave> thats a warning, im not sure what i have but it crashes xorg
[05:35] <dr_Willis> not going to keep the system from booting.
[05:35] <dr_Willis> theres proberly somthing else crashing it.
[05:35] <dr_Willis> start from the begining.. what video card do you have.
[05:35] <dwidmann> xbehave: grep EE /var/log/xorg.0.log
[05:36] <xbehave> well ive reconfigured and restored xorgs, i have an nvidia
[05:36] <bogdomania> hello all!im new on using linux,so i dont know much..im trying to install yahoo messenger .deb package and i get in terminal that the dependencies are not satisfied and then libgdk-pixbuf2..what should i do?
[05:36] <dr_Willis> xbehave,  what nvidia card.
[05:36] <cybrhuman> dr_willis: when i then write in terminal "sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite" it says it is using the file I copied to my home directory.
[05:36] <dwidmann> wait, capitol X on Xorg
[05:36] <dr_Willis> cybrhuman,  Hmm...  i cant say that ive ever seen it do that that way. Tell the command which xorg.conf to use.  that tool is using that file.. not X. :)
[05:37] <dr_Willis> cybrhuman,  it may be defaulting to the one in the home diur because it exiusts.. and is 'safer' to test with.
[05:37] <cybrhuman> dr_willis, how do I tell the tool which file to use?
[05:38] <xbehave> and i hade to restroe my filesystem on my root partition since then ive been unable to login, im running nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600]  (rev a1)
[05:38] <dwidmann> xbehave: , pastebin the results of "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and we may be more able to help :)
[05:40] <vbgunz> anyone know whats up with K3Bs DVD ripper? it never proceeds to rip anything, it appears it stays stuck "resizing" but it is not frozen. I am trying to rip home movies. anyone know whats up?
[05:40] <xbehave> dwidmann, it only gives me (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom which is a useless device error
[05:40] <dwidmann> xbehave: that's odd
[05:41] <dwidmann> xbehave: try this: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/backup.xorg.conf && startx
[05:42] <dwidmann> in Feisty/Gutsy it should get you a minimally working X
[05:42] <xbehave> ill need to restart ill be back soon
[05:43] <t4m1n0> hello there
[05:44] <t4m1n0> Where exactly do I have to put "profile" in my groob.list so indexing will remember my settings and boot time will be shorter?? I write it at the and of line "kernel/vlminuz..." but with upper case so it can be noted. Did I write profile on the correct places ???
[05:44] <t4m1n0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35670/
[05:44] <t4m1n0> output of grub.list
[05:47] <ubunturos> how do I start compiz from the GUI
[05:47] <ubunturos> ?
[05:47] <dwidmann> t4m1n0: the profile deal is a one-time thing, you boot with profile once, then you don't boot with profile in the list anymore
[05:47] <t4m1n0> dwidmann, I know
[05:47] <TonserPerson> i get an error when i try to boot the Kubuntu install CD with my mouse plugged in
[05:48] <TonserPerson> and it seems like i cant start the installer with my keyboard
[05:48] <TonserPerson> can anyone help me?
[05:48] <t4m1n0> dwidmann, but every next time is faster
[05:48] <alex_> hola
[05:48] <ubunturos> how do I start Compiz via the GUI? If I'm already logged in GUI
[05:48] <ubunturos> ?
[05:48] <dwidmann> t4m1n0: yes, so when booting, press e to edit the boot entry, go to the kernel line, press e again, add profile on the end, then press enter once, then b to boot
[05:49] <t4m1n0> dwidmann, I just weite profile?
[05:49] <t4m1n0> at the end of line?
[05:49] <dwidmann> yeah
[05:49] <t4m1n0> weite= profile
[05:49] <t4m1n0> kul
[05:49] <alex_> some chat for spanih?
[05:49] <dwidmann> !es
[05:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:50] <ubunturos> !compiz
[05:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:00] <ubunturos> how do I start compiz? when I try and replace Kwin's window manager, the title bars min, max buttons disappear
[06:02] <benni> join xfce
[06:02] <ubunturos> :-/
[06:05] <Jucato> beer, coffee, grapejuice??
[06:05] <Jucato> O.o
[06:05] <Jucato> oh well... brb
[06:06] <soa2ii> Hi there... i need again your help my keyboards still weird
[06:06] <soa2ii> do you remember Jucato ?
[06:07] <soa2ii> i just bootet from an install disk and typed in a console... it seems to be a kde problem...
[06:08] <soa2ii> when i type a char the same char appears sommetimes up to 10 times...
[06:08] <soa2ii> someone an idea why?
[06:10] <turazoor> peeps
[06:10] <t4m1n0> would anyone know how can I check what RAM do I have. I know there is 512MBs of ram. But I don't know how fast it is how many HZs ??
[06:11] <zipper> t4m1n0, use memtest86
[06:11] <turazoor> can anyone explain why after mounting my second hard drive to /media i now cannot access my media folders, it says "you do not have access rights"!!
[06:11] <zipper> t4m1n0, it's in the boot loader (probably GRUB)
[06:11] <t4m1n0> zipper, yes it's there
[06:12] <t4m1n0> zipper, is this the only chance? cause I have to reboot my comp..
[06:12] <turazoor> t4m1n0: reboot your pc, when it comes up with Esc to enter menu, press Esc lol!, then hit Memtest
[06:12] <turazoor> ah ok ^^^^^ lol
[06:12] <zipper> t4m1n0, probably not, but its the easiest way of getting all the info you want (and then some)
[06:12] <zipper> that said, i dont know how to check otherwise
[06:12] <zipper> so replace "easiest" with "easy"
[06:13] <soa2ii> noona an idea whats wrong with my keyboard?
[06:13] <turazoor> soa2ii: your back!
[06:14] <turazoor> soa2ii: still haven't got my wireless USB to work! it's an odd one lol !
[06:14] <turazoor> wots with ya keyboard?
[06:19] <turazoor> soa2ii: u there>
[06:20] <xbehave> dr_Willis, its still the same, it found out i can login under root, it will start but theres no desktop (i assume thats just because root doesnt get a desktop tho)
[06:21] <soa2ii> turazoor: sry
[06:21] <soa2ii> if i type on char sometime a lot of those chars appear...
[06:21] <turazoor> soa2ii: hi ya dude
[06:21] <flake> hsf modems are limited to 14.4??
[06:21] <soa2ii> i changed the keyboard.... it's a system error...
[06:21] <turazoor> soa2ii: does it do it anywhere particular...?
[06:22] <turazoor> ahh ok!
[06:22] <soa2ii> hm... it seems to a kde error
[06:22] <xbehave> i cant login but can startx without logging in or as root
[06:22] <soa2ii> because i just bootet a console and everything seemed to be alright
[06:22] <turazoor> soa2ii: hmmm... surely you can reinstall Kde
[06:23] <turazoor> soa2ii: dont suppose u know much about this Nickserv thing do you, ie how to reset ur password, cos it isn't recognising mine anymore lol!
[06:23] <soa2ii> hm...
[06:24] <soa2ii> ok i'll just save my files...
[06:24] <soa2ii> damn it... the first really weird problem i got...
[06:24] <turazoor> soa2ii: lucky u, i got loads of em, and i've only been using for a day
[06:24] <turazoor> lol
[06:26] <turazoor> soa2ii:  the usb device, screen resolution, and mounting at the moment lol!
[06:26] <soa2ii> rofl... ok if oure new some things are not like windows but no real problems...
[06:27] <soa2ii> you can solve them without probs...
[06:27] <soa2ii> but this keyboard prob is really weird...
[06:27] <soa2ii> well i'll get smth to eat... brb
[06:28] <turazoor> soa2ii: kk dude!
[06:29] <turazoor> peeps, can someone check whether this is ok lol!.... i pretty much just made it up lol!   "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media"
[06:29] <turazoor> .... i want to mount a second drive so that i can retrieve stuff off it!
[06:29] <turazoor> it used to be a windows drive
[06:29] <genii> turazoor: You want a directory inside directory /media
[06:30] <xbehave> its better as mount /dev/hdb1 /media/win
[06:30] <turazoor> genii: lol, err how do i unmount it then
[06:30] <xbehave> but youd need to sudo mkdir /media/win 1st
[06:30] <turazoor> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:30] <xbehave> umount /media
[06:30] <turazoor> thats what i tried to do first i.e. put it in a folder but it didnt work lol!
[06:31] <turazoor> so i assumed it wanted to make its own folder lol!
[06:31] <tim_away> what file system was the drive using?
[06:31] <tim_away> NTFS or FAT
[06:31] <xbehave> nope mount cant make directories
[06:31] <turazoor> i think it's NTFS
[06:31] <Angelus> have anyone here gave a try to kde4 beta?
[06:32] <tim_away> ok, to get read write on a windows drive I think you need to install fuse NTFS (search fuse in adept)
[06:32] <xbehave> !ntfs
[06:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:32] <tim_away> I'll be back in a mo, and I'll pase in a line for your /etc/fstab
[06:32] <Angelus> fuese ntfs?
[06:32] <Angelus> dude
[06:32] <hydrogen> !fuse
[06:32] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[06:32] <Angelus> use ntfs-3g
[06:32] <tim_away> yeah thats the one
[06:32] <Angelus> :/
[06:32] <hydrogen> !ntfs-3g
[06:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:33] <xbehave> ntfs-3g is the easier way to go
[06:33] <hydrogen> either works
[06:33] <hydrogen> err
[06:33] <hydrogen> ntfs-3g is a fuse fs
[06:33] <Angelus> i dunno
[06:33] <tim_away> turazoor: install ntfs-3g in adept
[06:33] <owl> re
[06:33] <Angelus> ntfs-3g always worked for meh
[06:33] <tim_away> its what I meant either way
[06:33] <turazoor> tim_away: i'll use aptitude if dat ok!
[06:34] <turazoor> lol
[06:35] <elite101> hello
[06:35] <turazoor> ok aptitude is now installing it
[06:35] <turazoor> and its done!
[06:36] <tim_away> ok, now add a line to your fstab like:
[06:36] <stephanh> An error occurred while loading http://www.nordic-t.org:
[06:36] <stephanh> Timeout on server
[06:36] <stephanh>  Connection was to www.nordic-t.org at port 80
[06:36] <stephanh> anyone who can tell me the problem??:S
[06:37] <tim_away>  /dev/hdb1 /media/win ntfs-3g users 0 0
[06:37] <tim_away> turazoor: /dev/hdb1 /media/win ntfs-3g users 0 0
[06:37] <tim_away> you'll need to be root so sudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:38] <stephanh> tim me?
[06:38] <tim_away> then paste that line in at the bottom, read it so it makes sense, and make sure /media/win exists
[06:38] <tim_away> no soz
[06:38] <tim_away> another guy
[06:38] <stephanh> kk
[06:38] <turazoor> err... ok hang on
[06:38] <tim_away> turazoor: then go sudo mount /media/win
[06:38] <tim_away> should auto mount every boot
[06:39] <flake> is there another provider of hsx modems besides Conexant, they want to charge for their drivers
[06:39] <hydrogen> err
[06:39] <tim_away> tuz: and now I'm going for a smoke
[06:39] <hydrogen> and make sure that your windows partition is /dev/hdb1
[06:39] <hydrogen> oh
[06:39] <hydrogen> nvm
[06:39] <turazoor> ok quickly remind me how to open my fstab lol
[06:39] <hydrogen> I read up
[06:39] <hydrogen> :)
[06:39] <hydrogen> sudo vi /etc/fstab
[06:39] <turazoor> ty
[06:40] <hydrogen> or kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:40] <hydrogen> if you want an editor that is a bit more intuitive
[06:40] <hydrogen> and graphical
[06:40] <tim_away> bah console people, user interfaces exist for a reason
[06:40] <tim_away> or is this the wrong place to say that
[06:41] <ScorpKing> yes
[06:41] <turazoor> lol
[06:41] <shinobi> each to his own...terminal has it's place
[06:41] <stephanh> haha:D
[06:41] <turazoor> i'll use the interface
[06:41] <hydrogen> the console is a user interface :)
[06:41] <hydrogen> and vi is much quicker than kate once you figure out how to use it
[06:41] <shinobi> and you gotta love vi
[06:41] <ScorpKing> true
[06:42] <Jucato> vi..
[06:42] <Jucato> m
[06:44] <turazoor> ok my fstab wont save
[06:44] <turazoor> apparently kate can write to the file
[06:45] <Jucato> you need to edit it as root.
[06:45] <tim_away> you need to be root, sudo
[06:45] <Jucato> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:45] <Jucato> !kdesu
[06:45] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:46] <tim_away> well I never knew that
[06:46] <Goop> hey all, I was wondering; is there any advantage of using Kubuntu over the regular Ubuntu?
[06:46] <turazoor> ah ha
[06:46] <turazoor> cool
[06:46] <tim_away> I'v always used xfce tll recently
[06:46] <Jucato> as they said in G.I. Joe, "Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!"
[06:46] <tim_away> goop: its got kde, if you like kde
[06:46] <Jucato> well on GNOME and Xfce, it would be gksu or gksudo
[06:58] <Jucato> Goop: Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE. Both have the same underlying (non-graphical) systems, but above that everything else is different
[06:58] <Jucato> except for OpenOffice.org
[06:58] <Goop> tim_away, I've never used it before
[06:58] <Goop> The regular Ubuntu won't boot properly from the livecd on one pc
[06:58] <tim> try xubuntu?
[06:58] <tim> its lighter
[06:58] <Goop> I have a feeling it may be my cd drive
[06:58] <Goop> in windows it often gives "cyclic redunancy errors"
[06:58] <Goop> althouhg at the moment i don't have access to a drive cleaner cd
[06:58] <tim> drive transplant?
[06:58] <Goop> no other drive that I can use, and to be honest I don't plan to install it
[06:58] <Goop> my family is paranoid that I will screw up the PC
[06:58] <tim> er... flashdrive boot? if anyone know how to do that
[06:58] <turazoor> tim: nice one buddy, it's up and running...
[06:58] <mluser> is there a kubuntu Gutsy specific irc channel?
[06:58] <turazoor> tim: u might be able to help with an on-going "wierd" problem of mine, if ur not too busy
[06:58] <genii> mluser: #kubuntu #ubuntu+1 for gutsy and best for gutsty kubuntu is #kubuntu-devel
[06:58] <mluser> genii: thanks
[06:58] <genii> mluser: np
[06:58] <tim> tuz: possibly, I'm not that good though
[06:58] <Goop> genii, I think it's a philips drive, although it's probably just got a bit of dust on the lens
[06:58] <DjDarkman> hy how can I set up a samba share to work like a windows one? currently it keeps bugging me for password...
[06:58] <tim> darkman: you need to change it from the samba conf file
[06:58] <tim> you got access to that PC?
[06:58] <DjDarkman> it`s my pc
[06:58] <DjDarkman> no frontend for this?
[06:58] <genii> Goop: When it's a decent drive and the cyclic redundancy error crops up a lot of the time the motor inside is slowing down (or pulley belt stretched out, causing slowdown)
[06:58] <tim> ok, I'll log onto my pc and have a look at the file
[06:58] <tim> yeah there is, probably, but its just a small change
[06:58] <DjDarkman> that would be nice
[06:58] <DjDarkman> I  want to set this up for my home network
[06:58] <tim> I have similar setup. its possible
[06:58] <Elite101> what is the command to show connected PCI cards?
[06:58] <Goop> genii: the drive is supposed to be a cd-rw drive and can read DVDs, but it gives that error when reading DVDs and writing cds
[06:58] <Elite101> is it Ispci?
[06:58] <genii> lspci
[06:58] <Elite101> okay
[06:58] <turazoor> tim: kk i'll explain and see!... basically, i've narrowed the problem down to my USB Bus i think! when i plugged my wireless network adaptor into the pc when i tried the live cd version, it worked!... so i installed.... and now it lags the system.. but the the only difference is that the usb device is on a different bus
[06:58] <Goop> genii: sometimes even reading cds
[06:58] <turazoor> Elite101: i think is lspci
[06:58] <genii> Goop: Likely the motor is dying
[06:58] <turazoor> ...but i am a newbie lol
[06:58] <tim> ok, open the file /etc/samba/smb.conf in a root editer (kdesu kate?)
[06:58] <tim> (darkman)
[06:58] <genii> bah work. AFK
[06:58] <tim> under "authentication" set "security" to share
[06:58] <tim> make sure its uncommented
[06:58] <dev__> how to use ssh with particular port no ?
[06:58] <Raven> salut tous le monde
[06:58] <genii> tim: Make sure he does testparm
[06:59] (Goop/#kubuntu) Raven: salut
[07:00] (tim/#kubuntu) darkman: let us know if it works when thats done
[07:00] (tim/#kubuntu) er, smb should refresh its settings about once a minute
[07:00] (ScorpKing/#kubuntu) using samba with security = user is also easy with a bit more security.
[07:01] <tim> no he specificaly wants no password
[07:01] <ScorpKing> ok
[07:02] <stephanh> anyone who can help me install beryl?
[07:03] <tim> turazoor: if your still there, USB is a bit funny, on your motherboard are devices called USB controllers. bandwidth is per USB controller. If the port you have it plugged in on is owned by the same controller as say the one handling your external hard drive or mayb mouse it can mean trouble
[07:03] <turazoor> your kidding lol!
[07:03] <genii> back
[07:03] <Goop> so does KDE use different config tools than GNOME?
[07:04] <genii> tim: testparm dblchecks your smb.conf and makes sure syntax is OK and no glarin errors
[07:04] <Goop> and can I use GNOME applications in Kubuntu?
[07:04] <venik212> my keyboard died in the weirdest way: it works fine for the password, but once Kubuntu comes up, the keyboard is dead
[07:04] <turazoor> i have 8 USB ports, are they all going to do the same or is there going to be 1/2 that it may not bug on then?
[07:04] <coreymon77> Goop: gnome applications are still linux applications
[07:04] <tim> in kinfocenter (kdesu kinfocenter) you can browse through and see if your wireless device is connected to the same controller as something else
[07:04] <coreymon77> Goop: you can use gnome apps on kde andkde apps on gnome
[07:05] <turazoor> ok.... that requires plugging it in lol! and handling the ludicrous lag lol! GRRRR!
[07:05] <Goop> coreymon77: ok, thanks
[07:05] <tim> in kinfocenter, go to usb. if its under the same host controller, could be a problem
[07:05] <tim> maybe not though
[07:05] <genii> goop: If you have a low end computer you may want to stick with just all kde or all gnome. Loading the extra libraries and so on from one while using the other can strain old computers
[07:06] <venik212> can anyone help me fix the keyboard?  I did not edit the xorg.conf or anything else
[07:06] <turazoor> if something else USB works in the same port that the Belkin doesnt does that rule that out?
[07:06] <tim> if in doubt try using its windows drivers under ndiswrapper
[07:06] <Goop> genii: well this computer isn't old, but does 256MB of RAM count as old?
[07:06] <Chousuke> yes.
[07:07] <coreymon77> whose having the wifi problems?
[07:07] <genii> Goop: If the cpu is better than a Pentium 2 class with that much ram you should be OK
[07:07] <turazoor> ndiswrapper doesn't support it, as it works plug 'n' play thru ubuntu i think
[07:07] <Goop> I want to get any *ubuntu working on that "old" pc properly, because this PC has graphics card issues
[07:07] <genii> goop: If you had under 192 it might be a prob
[07:07] <Goop> any 3D app gives corruption in windows or linux...
[07:07] <DjDarkman> tim: why do I get the permission denied error?
[07:08] <Goop> genii: I think it's a pentium 3 or 4
[07:08] <Goop> genii: it was originally windows NT I think
[07:08] <tim> no its about data bandwidth. USB dong wireless devices are mostly softmac, that is the computer handles most of the stuff usualy handled by chips on the acutal dongle. therefore it needs to poll the dongle frequently. a mouse makes a suprisingly huge amount of traffic across the bus, which on USB1 only supports 30 MBS
[07:09] <tim> you can still use ndiswrapper if you suppress the default driver
[07:09] <tim> darkman: you mean when saving the file?
[07:09] <tim> DJdarkman: you mean when saving the file?
[07:09] <tim> you need to be root, in the console: sudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:10] <DjDarkman> no the samba deamon has problems but I think I know what`s the problem
[07:10] <genii> Goop: You should be OK to run both kinds of apps then, KDE and Gnome ones from the same window manager.
[07:11] <coreymon77> turazoor: whats the matter?
[07:11] <Goop> genii: I heard about fluxbox, apparently it is faster for machines with older graphics cards
[07:11] <Goop> but there are no desktop effects for that
[07:11] <Angelus> how come Adept is only giving me the source of spca5xxx webcam driver? if im not wrong there was a package that installs the driver?
[07:11] <tim> his dongle causes lag and he things its the USB bus
[07:11] <Goop> and I want eyecandy :D
[07:12] <stephanh> is there any msn looking program for linux?? and wahts its name?
[07:13] <tim> msn: kopete, and its installed by default
[07:13] <Angelus> stephanh:
[07:13] <Goop> stephanh: GAIM can be used for MSN
[07:13] <Angelus> amsn :) stephanh its the nicest and best one :)
[07:13] <coreymon77> stephanh: i use mercury
[07:13] <Angelus> stephanh: http://amsn-project.net :)
[07:13] <Goop> stephanh: I don't think it supports Windows Live  Messenger features like scripts
[07:13] <coreymon77> stephanh: mercury.to
[07:13] <coreymon77> stephanh: mercury is on apt
[07:14] <Angelus> stephanh:  amsn looks the most like MSN so yeah, if you want something like windows live messenger download aMSN from amsn-project.net
[07:14] <coreymon77> stephanh: youre not gonna get something that supports all of the windows live messenger features though
[07:14] <genii> Goop: Yes, fluxbox and xfce are good for older equipment and take up less overhead to run.
[07:14] <stephanh> okay thanks guys!:) do any of you know how to install beryl cant get it work...
[07:14] <turazoor> coreymon77: hi, errr... there's something causing kubuntu to slow up to an almost stand still when i plug my belkin wireless network adaptor in! it worked fine whilst in live cd versio
[07:14] <coreymon77> stephanh: driver problems?
[07:14] <stephanh> no idea:S
[07:14] <coreymon77> stephanh: sorry, wrong person
[07:14] <stephanh> im all new to linux!!!:P (first day)
[07:14] <stephanh> ^ok
[07:14] <coreymon77> turazoor: driver problems?
[07:15] <tim> turazoor: I really suggest you suppress the default driver and use ndiswrapper
[07:15] <tim> what chipset
[07:15] <turazoor> ra something.... hang on
[07:15] <tim> is it a belkin FD7050
[07:15] <turazoor> coreymon77: ndiswrapper dont support it
[07:15] <coreymon77> stephanh: one thing about the msn client, this is linux not windows, you are not going to get something exactly like wlm
[07:16] <turazoor> tim: yeah, version 3001uk
[07:16] <coreymon77> stephanh: or something that supports all of the features
[07:16] <tim> I think I'm using V3, and I'm on NDIS
[07:16] <coreymon77> stephanh: so dont expect it to be exactly like the microsoft version
[07:16] <coreymon77> turazoor: can you find out the chipset?
[07:17] <turazoor> coreymon77: yeah hang on a second
[07:17] <tim> turazoor: can you write the FCC ID number off the back
[07:17] <venik212> I just tested my keyboard on the same hardware, booting in XP-- works fine, but it is dead in Kubuntu
[07:17] <coreymon77> tim: let him find the chipset first
[07:17] <tim> well the FCCID will tell us which version it is, and we can find the chipset from there
[07:17] <turazoor> tim: it's K7S-f5D7050b
[07:18] <Angelus> can someone tell me the driver name pls for Logitech webcam?
[07:18] <coreymon77> turazoor: chip?
[07:18] <turazoor> coreymon77: yep now looking it up
[07:18] <tim> yeah under that there is a line reading "fcc ID"
[07:18] <Goop> venik212: what type of keyboard is it? USB or PS2?
[07:18] <tim> what does that say
[07:18] <venik212> I tried both
[07:18] <venik212> same death
[07:19] <venik212> It is a software problem, since it works fine for the password
[07:19] <tim> is it "K7SF5D7050B"
[07:19] <lunitik> In Gutsy, what does the 'enterprise' tag on some packages entail? I thought Ubuntu doesn't make any differentiation between home and enterprise packages?
[07:20] <turazoor> coreymon77: it's the rt73 chip
[07:20] <coreymon77> lunitik: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:20] <tim> turazoor, yes thats V3
[07:20] <lunitik> coreymon77: It's not a support question.
[07:20] <turazoor> tim: yeah ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[07:20] <tim> turazoor: I'm using ndiswrapper for that without complant
[07:21] <turazoor> ok then
[07:21] <tim> but you might have a problem getting it to un autodetect
[07:21] <tim> anyone know how to supress a driver?
[07:21] <turazoor> coreymon77 does i beleive
[07:21] <tim> *finaly going for that smoke before the girlfriend gets back, disapearing
[07:21] <turazoor> kk dude
[07:21] <turazoor> sorry
[07:22] <anthronaut> Hi everyone. All of my windows, task bar and so on just disappeared, the desktop's showing only my wallpaper. The processes are still running in the background. Does anyone know how I can get back the programs to the desktop to save my data?
[07:23] <venik212> When I hit any key, I hear a faint beep, but no other response from Kubuntu
[07:23] <turazoor> coreymon77: would u be able to talk me through supressing the driver?
[07:24] <rustalot> when will KDE4 go into beta?
[07:24] <venik212> since hte kb is dead, I cannot even do anything with the terminal
[07:24] <xbehave> i cant login but can startx without logging in or as root
[07:25] <GuyFromHell> Can someone point me in the right direction for the config file i'd want to change to get my wireless to connect to a specific essid and then run vpnc?
[07:26] <turazoor> coreymon77: u there?
[07:26] <tim> wfconfig wlan0 essid ESSID
[07:26] <tim> oh like as in a script?
[07:26] <GuyFromHell> yea
[07:26] <GuyFromHell> as in
[07:26] <GuyFromHell> at startup
[07:26] <GuyFromHell> i know how to do it by hand
[07:26] <turazoor> tim: thought u were going for smoke lol
[07:26] <tim> er put in in your bash profile
[07:26] <tim> I did, I'm just quick
[07:26] <turazoor> lol
[07:27] <GuyFromHell> tim: user or system?
[07:27] <Goop> venik212: I'm searching for a solution for ya :)
[07:27] <venik212> thanks
[07:27] <venik212> I am dead in the water
[07:27] <turazoor> anyone know how to suppress a driver?
[07:27] <tim> user, I'd assume
[07:27] <tim> thats what will come on when you log in
[07:28] <llutz> turazoor: prevent loading? blacklist it
[07:28] <GuyFromHell> tim: k i'll give it a shot
[07:28] <turazoor> llutz: ok then how do i do that?
[07:29] <tim> best of all you can test it by logging in and out rather than a full reboot
[07:29] <llutz> turazoor: add it to /etc/modprobe/blacklist or create a new blacklist-file there
[07:29] <tim> oh but hang on, it will do it every time you open a terminal
[07:29] <tim> so dont do that
[07:29] <Goop> venik212: meanshile you keep searching, there's probably an on-screen keyboard somewhere
[07:29] <Goop> *meanwhile
[07:29] <tim> put it in an RC script instead
[07:29] <tim> specificaly (I think) rc.5
[07:30] <turazoor> llutz: i'm a newbie, soz but the blacklist is empty so what am i writing and how do i find out what driver itis i need to suppress it's for a USB wireless network adaptor
[07:31] <venik212> using an on screen kb is too slow for work....
[07:32] <venik212> I booted the same machine in XP and everything works fine
[07:32] <llutz> turazoor: it's /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist  sry
[07:32] <dwidmann> turazoor: put in "blacklist somedriver" (where somedriver is the driver you want to  blacklist)
[07:33] <llutz> turazoor: you should know the name of the unwanted driver, just add a line "blacklist <module>"
[07:33] <tim> clear
[07:33] <tim> I meant /clear
[07:33] <venik212> this happened while I was editing a simple text file
[07:34] <llutz> venik212: use XP then
[07:34] <turazoor> lol
[07:34] <venik212> very funny
[07:34] <turazoor> ^^
[07:34] <venik212> also, very helpful
[07:34] <llutz> venik212: no joke: if something works with <OS of you choice>, use it
[07:35] <genii> llutz: Exactly
[07:35] <venik212> you mean, it is OK for Ubuntu to kill the keyboard, and the solution is to switch back to XP?
[07:35] <turazoor> llutz: errr.... sorry but i am a dipshit when it comes to linux, tis my first day lol! so where would i find the name for the driver in question...
[07:36] <dwidmann> :\ this sftp file transfer is *still* going ... man is this slow
[07:36] <llutz> turazoor: why do you think you have to blacklist a special module, if you even don't know its name?
[07:36] <genii> turazoor: How did you come to the conclusion there is a driver you need to blacklist?
[07:36] <turazoor> lol
[07:37] <turazoor> cos i was told to blacklist the driver for my wireless usb adaptor because as soon as i plug it in, it slows up the system so someone suggested blacklisting it and trying ndiswrapper
[07:37] <llutz> turazoor: then ask the one who told you for the module name
[07:37] <turazoor> nobody told me the module name lol!
[07:38] <llutz> turazoor: of compare the output of "lsmod" before and after you plugin your stick
[07:38] <turazoor> llutz: cheers
[07:38] <genii> better yet plug it in, then unplug it. then look at dmesg
[07:38] <llutz> of=or
[07:40] <gekco> hi
[07:40] <gekco> why
[07:41] <gekco> why when I put the movie in fullscreen still a little square ?
[07:41] <venik212> OK-- I found the problem.  SOMEHOW, Kubuntu chose to activate SLOW KEYS, something that is hidden in the ACCESSIBILITY tab in system setting
[07:41] <Goop> venik212: I'd dual-boot XP and Ubuntu, that way you have an alternative if one of them crashes
[07:41] <venik212> I unchecked the box, and all is well
[07:41] <gekco> I want the movie to fill the entire screen
[07:42] <venik212> I really do not need to be told to move to XP when I have a problem in Ubuntu-- it is the opposite of helpful
[07:42] <Goop> venik212:  good for you :D
[07:42] <venik212> I dual boot
[07:42] <Goop> venik212:  I wasn't telling yo to switch, sorry, just some general advice
[07:43] <tim> turazoor: the driver is called R2*00 or something, at least in the package repository
[07:44] <stephanh> hmm can anyone tell me why my azures program is closing as soon as i opens it?:S
[07:45] <tim> *rt2x00
[07:46] <turazoor> i have got rt2570, rt2x00lib, rt73USB, rt25USB
[07:46] <tim> rt2x00lib I think
[07:46] <turazoor> ok i'm gonna do the same in live cd version be back in bit peeps!
[07:46] <tim> but you can literaly blacklist all of them
[07:47] <turazoor> #
[07:47] <turazoor> brb
[07:50] <toki> I've updated kde to gutsy and my kcontrol is empty. Please help me fix this?
[07:52] <tim> can anyone got a fstab line for mounting an anonymous samba network share?
[07:52] <Alloosh> guys, I see that my modem is blicking so it means that there is someone who is downloading or uploading something to my compu, where can I find out what is going on?
[07:52] <tim> netstat
[07:52] <tim> netstat -a
[07:53] <xbehave> x starts but wont let me login, what should i do?
[07:54] <Dr_willis_>  can you login at the console?
[07:54] <xbehave> Dr_willis_,  yes but then it wont start
[07:54] <Dr_willis_> 'it wont start' ? huh?
[07:54] <jessen> hey, I just installed kubuntu after trying many, many distros for my thinkpad t60, and man, what a difference!! I'm really glad I decided to try it out
[07:55] <Dr_willis_> Its possible your caps lock/keyboard/keymap is wrong for X. messing things up.
[07:55] <xbehave> startx crashes if i run it when loged in
[07:55] <Dr_willis_> you can try killing the kdm service. then using 'startx' as a user.
[07:55] <jessen> just thought i'd pop in and express my gratitude to all the devs
[07:55] <xbehave> Dr_willis_, no it logs me in thencrashes and takes me back to the login screen
[07:55] <Dr_willis_> and the crash/error messages are?
[07:56] <xbehave> well the only 1 i see is to do with freefontpath and everybody says it cant be causeing the error
[07:56] <Dr_willis_> xbehave,  back to the login screen? you dident try it with KDM NOT running then. Or are you refering to the Console Login: prompt?
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> Somthing seems very odd. here. I think ya need to sumamrize the problem.
[07:57] <xbehave> i shut down kdm (by choosing console login) then loged in and it loged me in to tty6 fine
[07:57] <turazoor> right.... i logged into live version and it doesn't load one of the modules that this version does, so where was that blacklist again lol
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> KDM starts - but you cant login,  'startx' from a console = crashes?
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> as a test. make a new user, see if they can login into X from KDM.
[07:57] <xbehave> yes, and sudo startx from console = it starts but i cant do anything usefull
[07:58] <xbehave> how do i make a new user from console?
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> make a .xinitrc file in the root users home dir /root with the line 'startkde' :)
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> adduser bgates
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> will add a user.
[07:58] <dwidmann> hmm, that's interesting ... the slowness of these sftp file transfers seems to be linked to a problem in the kio slave ...
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> startx reads the .xinitrc file normalluy
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> well work time for me. byeeeeeeeeee.
[07:59] <turazoor> can someone tell me where the blacklist has disappeared off too, i cant find it lol!
[07:59] <tim> :( I clearscreened
[07:59] <turazoor> tim: lol
[07:59] <tim> someone copy paste the blacklist file path from a few minutes ago?
[08:00] <turazoor> tim: y can u lol
[08:00] <turazoor> oh yeah u cleared
[08:00] <genii> I think /etc/modprobe.d
[08:00] <turazoor> i think there was a bit on the end genii
[08:00] <marciomra> how do you do?
[08:01] <tim> so go "ls /etc/modprobe.d" to get a list
[08:01] <genii> turazoor: /etc/modprobe.d is the directory you want. In there make the file blacklist
[08:01] <marciomra> wht hi counter amsn mi?
[08:02] <turazoor> do i need to logoff to activate the new blacklist??
[08:03] <tim> can anyone got a fstab line for mounting an anonymous samba network share?
[08:03] <dwidmann> turazoor: should probably reboot, or at least modprobe -r the module
[08:03] <turazoor> module not found, i'm guessing that mean its blacklisted
[08:04] <tim> fstab: just a copy paste, known working
[08:06] <Menda> hi
[08:11] <meekus> is there a way to log out in KDE via a konsole command?
[08:11] <tsdgeos> via dcop yes
[08:12] <tsdgeos> not sure of the actual command line you need though
[08:12] <meekus> kk.  at least that points me in the right direction :) ty kindly
[08:13] <meekus> excellent - think I found it: dcop kdesktop default logout
[08:13] <flake> I need to talk to a vi user
[08:13] <tinin>  Hi, could someone explain me what should I do to know if my soundcard supports midis?
[08:14] <ptfd9100> vmplayer problems, anyone help?
[08:14] <flake> i think i have an extra LF or CR on the end of a line, how do I fix it using vi ?   I know J will join the lines..
[08:14] <NickPresta> !midi | tinin
[08:14] <ubotu> tinin: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:14] <tinin> thanx
[08:15] <tinin> But is timidity always needed to play midi?
[08:15] <owl> hmmm. how to integrate a kdm-theme?
[08:16] <tinin> even windows and my chap cellphone supports midi out of the box
[08:16] <tinin> *cheap
[08:17] <Turazoor> ok, why isn't this blacklisting i've placed RT25usb into the blacklist but it's still loading
[08:21] <Turazoor> is /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, just for Modules? and is RT25usb different from a module as it appears to be a driver, if it is does anyone know how to disable it
[08:21] <dwidmann> Turazoor: that's interesting, keep in mind also that it is *case sensitive*
[08:22] <Turazoor> yep! fort that the first time it didn't blacklist lol
[08:29] <Turazoor> dwidmann: so how can i go about removing it?
[08:29] <dwidmann> Turazoor: well, "sudo modprobe -r modulename", make sure that the case is correct (ie: it's case sensitive), same goes for in the blacklist file (case sensitive)
[08:29] <genii> everything in *nix is case sensitive
[08:29] <dwidmann> pretty much yeah
[08:29] <Turazoor> dwidmann: it's says it cant be found!
[08:29] <Turazoor> but i know it's correct because i have seen it in dmesg
[08:29] <dwidmann> :s
[08:29] <dwidmann> turazoor, check it in lsmod?
[08:29] <genii> Turazoor: Also make sure you put a newline after the last entry you have there. in other words, go to the end of the last word of the last line and then hit enter once or twice to put some empty lines under that one.
[08:29] <emilsedgh> is there any plan to replace OO.o with Koffice2 after its release?
[08:29] <Turazoor> dwidmann: it's not appearing in lsmod but it isn't loaded at the moment because its casuing problems it loads as soon as i plug the device in
[08:29] <chris_> hi all. Just installed fiesty and have got really quiet and distorred sound - anyone had this?
[08:29] <NickPresta> !sound
[08:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:29] <chris_> thanks, i'll check those out
[08:30] <Turazoor> dwidmann: and i have put a newline lol!
[08:30] <meekus> Where can I change my network card speed down to 10mbs half duplex?
[08:31] <Turazoor> meekus: eiwwww.... 10mbps y wud u wanna do that?
[08:32] <meekus> for testing :)
[08:32] <Turazoor> meekus: kk
[08:32] <Turazoor> meekus: lol.... good for u
[08:32] <dwidmann> Turazoor: plug it in, then lsmod, copy _ paste me the relevant line, also copy + paste the relevant line from your blacklist file.
[08:32] <meekus> I am getting weird networking issues, and think it may be network speed.  (I am grasping at straws lol)
[08:33] <Turazoor> dwidmann: will take me awhile cos its slow when i plug in
[08:33] <Turazoor> dwidmann: blacklist line = blacklist RT25usb
[08:36] <Turazoor> dwidmann: ok, the other three modules that i want installed are there but no RT25usb in lsmod
[08:37] <NickPresta> meekus, you can use `ethtool` or `mii-tool` to change duplex settings and such. Don't forget to restart the network after
[08:37] <meekus> NickPresta: ahh kk.  ty kindly :)
[08:39] <Turazoor> ?
[08:42] <genii> meekus: Or you can do:  sudo ifconfig eth0 down speed 10       then just sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[08:43] <genii> meekus: speeds: 10=10Mb/half 20=10Mb/full 100=100Mb/half 200=200Mb/full
[08:43] <Turazoor> dwidmann: heres it in dmesg  1178.601942]  RT25usb  Driver version 1.0.0
[08:44] <genii> meekus: 200=100Mb/full   rather :)
[08:44] <Turazoor> anywhere on the internet that i can check what files in kubuntu are?
[08:52] <turazoor> does anyone know anything about RT25usb, and how i might go about blocking it?
[08:54] <paco> xorg restarts everytime i login, and i get an error to do with xauth locking ~/.xauthority when i startx while already loged in
[08:54] <SubNet> Guten Abend!
[08:56] <jake_> Hello
[08:56] <titanix88> hi
[08:56] <SubNet> Hab ein Problem mit Kaffeine: Der Player zeigt nur vllig verschobene Videos an ...
[08:56] <titanix88> english plz.
[08:56] <jake_> Does anyone know if there is a Graphic User Interfaced MUSH or MUD client for Kubuntu?
[08:56] <SubNet> Das sieht aus, als wrde er jede Pixel-Zeile verschieben
[08:57] <jake_> And if not, I need help installing TinyFugue
[08:57] <titanix88> what's the prob?
[08:57] <llutz> !de |  SubNet
[08:57] <ubotu> SubNet: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> llutz: Thanks. I had forgotten weither it was "de" or "ge" for some reason...
[08:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Started to type ge...
[08:58] <jake_> I've unpacked the file, compiled and installed, but for some reason, I am still unable to use the tf command from it's location
[08:59] <titanix88> any error?
[08:59] <jake_> Say's it doesn't recognize the command
[09:00] <titanix88> jake_: a paste plz.
[09:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jake_: "gnome-mud" and "gmoo" are the only graphical MUD clients that show up for me in apt-search
[09:00] <jake_> bash: tf: command not found
[09:01] <titanix88> jake_: maybe ./tf
[09:01] <titanix88> or do what WhtWolfTeraDyne says.
[09:02] <jake_> Alright, I'll try that. I'm a little new to Linux, but I thought a gnome app wouldn't run on a KDE desktop?
[09:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jake_: Any linux app will run on any desktop, as long as the needed libraries are installed.
[09:02] <jake_> or am I getting desktops and kernals mixed up again or something?
[09:03] <Arwen> a GNOME app will not run on a normal KDE desktop
[09:03] <Arwen> but if you install enough parts of GNOME, it will work
[09:03] <titanix88> jake_: i am having a edubuntu+kubuntu mixup.running amarok firefox konsole simutaneously!!
[09:03] <jake_> ah. So, where did you find gnome-mud then? on Adept?
[09:03] <dwidmann> installing that program will drag all its gnome dependencies along with it, so nothing to worry about arwen, jake_
[09:04] <dwidmann> jake_: sure
[09:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jake_: Using a Konsole window, I used "apt-search". It should be in Adept, though.
[09:04] <jake_> I can't find it in adept. I'll try konsole.
[09:05] <jake_> thanks for your help everyone :)
[09:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info gnome-mud
[09:05] <ubotu> gnome-mud: The GNOME MUD client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.7-1build2 (feisty), package size 363 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[09:05] <titanix88> jake_: we don't accept prepaid thnx ;)
[09:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jake_: You need the Universe repositories enabled to get it.
[09:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !repos | jake_
[09:06] <ubotu> jake_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:06] <jake_> Suddenly I remember what I did wrong. I've yet to enable the other ones.
[09:07] <jake_> I've just got the default set up. I've used Kubuntu before but I;m rusty :p
[09:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> O_o; Konsole just exploded on me. No traceback or anything...
[09:07] <titanix88> jake_: sudo apt-get update ???
[09:08] <jake_> Hmm?
[09:09] <Remo_A> sudo sudoku
[09:09] <Remo_A> man -o man
[09:10] <jake_> Hmm... I've activated all of the repertoirs, is this wise?
[09:10] <titanix88> just make sure ur packages list is updated(incase of live cds)
[09:10] <titanix88> wise as me :)
[09:11] <tinin> !midi
[09:11] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[09:11] <dwidmann> Remo_A: man -k woman
[09:11] <owl> ^^
[09:12] <Remo_A> get string from object
[09:12] <owl> might Remo_A wanna strip a bit? ^^
[09:12] <Remo_A> hehe
[09:13] <jake_> Hmm. I appear to be upgrading Kubuntu itself, so I'll be logging out so I can restart in a moment. I installed from a rather old CD.
[09:14] <jake_> Heh, it's going to take over an hour to download anyway.
[09:14] <jcolvin> Hey you guys
[09:14] <titanix88> jake_: 0_O
[09:14] <jcolvin> Im a newbie and am having problems installing apps
[09:14] <dwidmann> jcolvin: do tell
[09:15] <owl> *sigh* apt-get install empty-trash-can coffee
[09:15] <owl> apt-get clean
[09:15] <owl> i want this for my room
[09:15] <Angelus> can someone help me with the folowwing error please??? http://rafb.net/p/eAh4Ao56.html :|
[09:15] <Angelus> i really need to install this driver for my webcam
[09:15] <jcolvin> im new to linux and dont even know where to start
[09:15] <dwidmann> jake_: how old is rather old, because in that case it may be more efficient to download and burn an iso image.
[09:15] <jcolvin> with installing apps
[09:16] <dwidmann> jcolvin, first place to start should be k-menu -> add/remove programs :)
[09:16] <titanix88> jcolvin : hi
[09:16] <jcolvin> ok
[09:16] <jake_> About a month or so. But I don't think it'll be any quicker to download and burn a fresh iso
[09:16] <jcolvin> the downloaded file looks like this...
[09:16] <jcolvin> sav-linux-6-i386.tgz
[09:17] <dwidmann> jcolvin, not to scare you away or anything, but it looks like you'll have to compile that yourself
[09:17] <jcolvin> oh really
[09:17] <titanix88> jcolvin : try default repository.it's not like windows where u dload a .exe and install it.
[09:18] <dwidmann> titanix88: it's not in the repos, I just checked.
[09:18] <jcolvin> any documentation that would help me so you dont have to explain it all to me
[09:18] <dwidmann> erm, that would be handy, let me check around for that
[09:18] <dwidmann> this will be a good start
[09:19] <dwidmann> !compile
[09:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:20] <jake_> Hehe, because I have a nice fast internet connection, it's only going to take another 20 minutes
[09:21] <Angelus> !webcam
[09:21] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:21] <dwidmann> jake_: typically a dist-upgrade is about 500mb, you said you think you're upgrading, to which version of kubuntu?
[09:22] <jake_> 7.04
[09:24] <dwidmann> jake_: if you're upgrading from something older than edgy, then I wish you luck, they advise against going straight from dapper or edgy (or older versions) to feisty
[09:25] <jake_> This is definitely feisty
[09:25] <jake_> I think I'm just upgrading from an older version of feisty
[09:26] <dwidmann> jake_: just grabbing the small backports and updates that have popped up since it came out then ... I see.
[09:26] <dwidmann> I still have a 122mb download to go on my laptops upgrade to gutsy :(
[09:27] <d0uglas> would someone kindly recommend an imap server for a machine that will be heavy on "public" folders rather than just inboxes? ... ideally something that isn't too tricky to configure
[09:27] <genii> There should be something like DownThemAll for the apt downloads....
[09:29] <dwidmann> genii: closest you'll come is to put 5 mirrors in your sources.list ..... hehehe
[09:29] <genii> dwidmann: I'm getting the glimmering of an idea now though :)
[09:31] <dwidmann> genii: ooh, do tell.
[09:32] <genii> dwidmann: A replacement for whatever apt-get is using to d/l off the mirrors, one that can split the d/l into 5 parts like DTA does for instance
[09:32] <genii> likely wget or get
[09:33] <dwidmann> genii: something like axel maybe?
[09:33] <genii> hmm
[09:34] <genii> Or maybe to cal wget with -c option 5 times etc. but then how to splice...
[09:36] <dwidmann> I noticed something interesting about apt when I installed debian etch a while back ... instead of redownloading the Packages file from the server everytime it uses patches instead. I wonder how long til we get to see this in ubuntu ....
[09:36] <jake_> Is it safe to download packages on adept while the distribution package is also running?
[09:36] <jake_> distribution upgrade*
[09:37] <genii> jake_: no
[09:37] <dwidmann> jake_: it's okay, because it won't let you do anything dangerous
[09:37] <genii> dwidmann: Yes, diffs make much more sense
[09:37] <dwidmann> the apt lock file will stop you.
[09:38] <jake_> Gotcha. Only 5 minutes left on the upgrade anyway. I'm gonna log out, restart and all that fun stuff. Be back in a few.
[09:38] <dwidmann> hope he didn't try to restart while it was still mid-upgrade, oh well.
[09:39] <enry> goodbye
[09:40] <lnx_> what are the best graphical icq clients ( gnome and kde and xfce if there are ) ?
[09:40] <dwidmann> inx_: kopete works well enough for me, gaim/pidgin should work also
[09:40] <hak5fan> I've just installed compiz fusion How can I get it to start when I log in?
[09:40] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, i use kopete for all my IM stuff
[09:41] <lnx_> Mr_Sonoma , its almost perfect just i doesnt allow me to copy user away message
[09:41] <Mr_Sonoma> hak5fan, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:42] <lnx_> hak5fan , click ALT + F2 and type there "compiz --replace"
[09:42] <hak5fan> Mr_Sonoma: Thanks
[09:42] <genii> AFK experimenting
[09:43] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, it dont let you copy away messages?
[09:43] <hak5fan> lnx_: I've started it like that but I want it to auto start when I log on
[09:44] <lnx_> Mr_Sonoma , you know what i mean i away message ?
[09:44] <flavia> hi, what do I need to rip mp3s from an audio cd with k3b?
[09:44] <rjune_> k3b doesn't rip mp3s
[09:45] <Mr_Sonoma> hak5fan, there was a wiki i used to have for beryl to add it to your session types when your logging on. but i dont have that bookmarked anymore. like i said #ubuntu-effects should be able to help
[09:45] <rjune_> there's an IO Slave you can use to do it, audiocd:// or some such If I remember right
[09:45] <genii> Bah. Forgot i had a 200Gb hd nfs mounted and did updatedb
[09:46] <rjune_> ouch
[09:46] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, you mean you cant save your away reason/message?? or when you recieve a message while you are away?
[09:47] <flavia> rjune_: I found that it's possible, I suppose I just need some additional library
[09:47] <lnx_> Mr_Sonoma , no for example some one of my friends have
[09:48] <lnx_> "i will back in 30 mins" , and i want to copy it i cant
[09:48] <flavia> rjune: ok found it, tnx anyway
[09:50] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I create a trashcan on my desktop in kubuntu?
[09:52] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: mspaint? j/k ... anyhow, right click the desktop, create a link to a location, for the location use trash:/ and for the name call it Trash
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> CPrgmSwR2 > create a simple textfile
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> an fill it with: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35702/
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> and name it for.ex trash.desktop
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> dwidmann > that's not enough
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> that isn't indicates the stat of the trash (empty or not)
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> but this does.
[09:53] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, theres the set status message icon looks like a pencil and piece of paper, you can do it there. seems like there's a way to save them too but im not finding it right now.
[09:53] <Mr_Sonoma> lnx_, but it will use your last away message next time you set your status to away
[09:53] <CPrgmSwR2> MetaMorfoziS: where did you get that information?
[09:53] <Minnozz> I was trying to compile the drivers for my wireless network adapter (RTL8187) and I got this error: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=931
[09:53] <MetaMorfoziS> from my desktop:)
[09:54] <Minnozz> what do I have to do?
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> But first somewhere from google:)
[09:54] <CPrgmSwR2> ah okay
[09:54] <lnx_> Mr_Sonoma , im not talking about my status message , see my friend have URL in his status message and i want to copy it to the browser do you under stand what i want todo ?
[09:54] <turazoor> anyone know a good driver download site, so i can download win drivers for ndiswrapper, cos the girlfriend lost the cd
[09:55] <CPrgmSwR2> MetaMorfoziS: Thnx
[09:55] <MetaMorfoziS> np
[09:55] <turazoor> lnx_: y dont u just write it out, its not usually possible
[09:55] <soa2ii> turazoor: still not runningn??
[09:55] <soa2ii> running
[09:55] <turazoor> soa2ii: nope! its going to drive me insane
[09:55] <lnx_> turazoor , waht you mean write it out ?
[09:56] <turazoor> just look at the PM and write it straight into ur browser
[09:56] <soa2ii> lnx_: turazoor searches his driver for his wlan chipset...
[09:56] <soa2ii> i think he uses a broadcom chipset but i do not really know wich particular veriosn...
[09:56] <soa2ii> version...
[09:57] <turazoor> nah its ralink
[09:57] <soa2ii> sure?
[09:57] <turazoor> its the r23 or summit hang on
[09:57] <lnx_> turazoor , :( i know that i can copy it by hand but it slower . . .
[09:57] <soa2ii> hm... turazoor you really should watch for linux drivers first ;)
[09:57] <turazoor> ok
[09:58] <prak> does anyone know how to unlock the database in kubuntu for adept?
[09:58] <soa2ii> go and get some atheros chipsets... then you'll be able to crack some wlans, too ;)
[09:58] <soa2ii> prak: what do you mean?
[09:58] <soa2ii> do you want to add new repositories?
[09:58] <jughead> I took the "auto eth1" line out of my /etc/network/interfaces file in order to decrease boot time - and it worked.  Howecver, knetworkmanager doesn't have options for wireless networks anymore.  How can I fix it?
[09:58] <soa2ii> maybe you should have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <prak> soa2ii: my adept/synaptic crashed and when i reopened it, it asks me to unlock the database
[09:59] <turazoor> ok then peeps! Where the cheapest wlan adaptor thats going to work straight away!
[09:59] <soa2ii> hm... weird...
[10:00] <soa2ii> what do you get if you do "sudo aptitude update" in a console?
[10:01] <soa2ii> and prak?
[10:01] <Minnozz> Does anybody know why linux/config.h can't be found?
[10:01] <soa2ii> no sorry...
[10:01] <llutz> Minnozz: because you haven't installed and configured kernel-sources
[10:01] <soa2ii> has this smth to do with your kernel?
[10:02] <soa2ii> i would have a look at the kernel packages....
[10:02] <soa2ii> linux-src-generic or so...
[10:02] <Minnozz> hmm how can I do that?
[10:02] <soa2ii> open a terminal
[10:03] <soa2ii> and try
[10:03] <soa2ii> aptitude search linux
[10:03] <Minnozz> done
[10:03] <soa2ii> and look for packages with src in its name
[10:03] <llutz> linux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches
[10:03] <soa2ii> yes maybe this one (:
[10:04] <prak> soa2ii: http://pastebin.ca/676123
[10:04] <soa2ii> i'm sorry... i am at my girfriend and just sitting here with my macbook
[10:04] <turazoor> soa2ii: it's the Ralink r73 chipset, the system has set it up, hence i think the presence of RT73usb module in lsmod but its the bloody rt25usb driver thats f**king it up
[10:04] <Minnozz> yes it's in the list
[10:05] <soa2ii> turazoor: sry... i dont have any further ideas right now...
[10:05] <turazoor> soa2ii dat kewl
[10:05] <soa2ii> Minnozz: try th sources then
[10:05] <turazoor> just explaining ova and ova in the hope that someone on here will lol
[10:05] <soa2ii> well prag ill see...
[10:06] <soa2ii> prak: have you already add some new repositories?
[10:06] <prak> no
[10:06] <soa2ii> hm ok
[10:06] <prak> i freshly reinstalled kubuntu a while ago
[10:06] <soa2ii> have you tried dpkg --configure -a ?
[10:06] <Minnozz> soa2ii: you mean aptitude search sources ?
[10:06] <soa2ii> no Minnozz
[10:07] <soa2ii> sudo aptitude install linux-source
[10:07] <soa2ii> and then try to make your module again
[10:08] <Minnozz> thanks a lot
[10:08] <Minnozz> downloading now
[10:08] <soa2ii> Minnozz
[10:08] <soa2ii> you do not knowwheter it works...
[10:08] <llutz> Minnozz: you have to configure the sources and at least to start compiling the kernel. then config.h will be created
[10:08] <soa2ii> wait with your cheers ;)
[10:08] <syst> hello how do i do to join a serveur in french with Konversation
[10:08] <soa2ii> Minnozz: what are you going to install?
[10:08] <llutz> !fr | syst
[10:09] <ubotu> syst: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:09] <Minnozz> soa2ii: driver for my WLAN
[10:09] <soa2ii> what is its name?
[10:09] <syst> thanks a lot
[10:09] <Minnozz> Realtek RTL8187
[10:09] <soa2ii> well i think this one should work fine out of the box.... doesnt it?
[10:10] <Minnozz> i can't connect to my network
[10:10] <Minnozz> timeout while connecting
[10:10] <soa2ii> hm... i'll see... mom
[10:10] <Minnozz> and a friend said i had to install the drivers
[10:11] <Minnozz> this is actually my first day at Linux
[10:11] <soa2ii> Minnozz: have you tried sudo modprobe r818x ?
[10:11] <Minnozz> no, not yet, what's that?
[10:12] <soa2ii> it loads the module for your chipset...
[10:12] <soa2ii> maybe you should try this one first ;)
[10:13] <Minnozz> doesn't give any output, is that right? =\
[10:13] <llutz> Minnozz: no output=no error
[10:13] <Minnozz> but it didn't even ask for my password
[10:13] <soa2ii> moment...
[10:14] <soa2ii> does lsmod | grep 818x offer any output?
[10:14] <Minnozz> yes it does
[10:14] <lysdexia> Hi all. I'm trying to set up a feisty box as a wireless access point. I'm fairly sure the crapulous linksys USB (wusb54g) adapter I have been playing with will not actually do the trick. Is there a list of adapters that can successfully be used in an AP?
[10:14] <soa2ii> fine
[10:14] <soa2ii> lysdexia: are you sure ubuntu is the right OS for setting up an AP?
[10:15] <soa2ii> Minnozz: does you wlan work now?
[10:15] <llutz> lysdexia: use an atheros-chipset. madwifi does the trick in 10 seconds
[10:15] <lysdexia> The adapter works fine if there is an ap in range.
[10:16] <lysdexia> But I can't seem to find info on setting it up as an ap.
[10:16] <lysdexia> brb
[10:16] <Minnozz> it hangs at 28% (activation stage: configuring device) ...
[10:16] <soa2ii> hm....
[10:16] <figdor> hi! i'm noob ^^ i got two problems using kubuntu. first is my screen resolution, its 1024*768 - can i get it higher? second theres my mousesensitivity, it's way to high (already 1.0 in the options) can i get it lower? please. THANKS :)
[10:17] <soa2ii> what does iwconfig say?
[10:17] <soa2ii> figdor: these are all X-Server settings...
[10:17] <turazoor> Calling All Geniuses.................!
[10:17] <soa2ii> you can set you screen resolution directly in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <figdor> hmm
[10:18] <figdor> i have to type that in the command menu?
[10:18] <soa2ii> figdor:
[10:18] <soa2ii> try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <waylandbill> turazoor: I'm sure everyone thinks they're a genius. :-D
[10:18] <Minnozz> soa2ii: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=932
[10:19] <waylandbill> figdor: in a konsole
[10:19] <turazoor> waylandbill: well i need a genius, that is actually a genius when it comes to killing things in kubuntu
[10:19] <soa2ii> Minnozz: maybe just restart... windows like :P
[10:19] <waylandbill> turazoor: what's your trouble?
[10:19] <soa2ii> figdor: do ou have your texteditor open?
[10:20] <Minnozz> lol
[10:20] <Minnozz> i'll try
[10:20] <figdor> bash: sudo: command not found
[10:20] <soa2ii> ?? :D
[10:20] <figdor> i can open it?
[10:20] <soa2ii> figdor: open a terminal
[10:20] <soa2ii> like "Konsole"
[10:20] <figdor> ok
[10:20] <llutz> Minnozz: type "iwlist s"
[10:20] <soa2ii> and then type
[10:20] <soa2ii> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:21] <rustalot> KNetworkManager isn't working properly: It doesn't show any wireless networks, even though iwlist scan shows 6.
[10:21] <lysdexia> iwconfig shows the interface, no problem. My problem is not with the device itself as a client, but actually finding a device that will work properly as an access point.
[10:21] <lysdexia> (sorry for the delay)
[10:21] <figdor> hmm
[10:21] <llutz> lysdexia: you need special hardware/drivers which support AP-mode
[10:21] <soa2ii> figdor: ok?
[10:21] <llutz> lysdexia: like madwifi
[10:21] <Minnozz> llutz: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=933
[10:22] <figdor> yeah
[10:22] <soa2ii> fine
[10:22] <figdor> theres alot of
[10:22] <figdor> text :/
[10:22] <lysdexia> Ah. Thanks very much llutz.
[10:22] <phpcode> is there a command that gives me info about the system, system memory ect??
[10:22] <soa2ii> figdor: yes great
[10:22] <soa2ii> go down with ypur curser
[10:22] <llutz> Minnozz: your AP is switched on and works?
[10:22] <soa2ii> until you reach the resolution section
[10:22] <waylandbill> figdor: conf(iguration) files tend to.
[10:22] <Minnozz> it worked an hour ago on windows....
[10:23] <figdor> 2sec
[10:23] <waylandbill> Minnozz: you could try ndiswrapper possibly.
[10:23] <Minnozz> that's the windows driver emulator, right?
[10:23] <llutz> Minnozz: then your driver seems not to work, follow waylandbill
[10:24] <Fusion_> hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. i didn;t have this problem with edgy. thanks
[10:24] <figdor> yeah, section "screen"
[10:24] <lysdexia> Ah. That's got it. I can get it from here. Appreciate the help llutz. (sometimes it just takes the word ... ya know? :-)
[10:24] <soa2ii> figdor: right...
[10:24] <godstorm> i have a ?
[10:24] <godstorm> how can i use the same Sound Card
[10:24] <godstorm> to Listen and Talk On TS
[10:24] <soa2ii> figdor: just add under the depth 24 section the resolution you want
[10:24] <godstorm> ?
[10:24] <figdor> ?
[10:24] <figdor> and that
[10:24] <figdor> is just that?
[10:25] <figdor> and then just close the window?
[10:25] <soa2ii> n
[10:25] <soa2ii> no
[10:25] <soa2ii> strg + x is exit
[10:25] <soa2ii> and you eed to save the file
[10:25] <godstorm> can you help me?
[10:25] <soa2ii> then you have to restart you x-server
[10:26] <soa2ii> figdor: do ou have a second pc there?
[10:26] <figdor> nope
[10:26] <llutz> Minnozz: "sudo rmmod r818x"
[10:26] <soa2ii> figdor: damn...
[10:26] <Minnozz> gives no output
[10:26] <figdor> ?!
[10:26] <llutz> Minnozz: fine
[10:26] <soa2ii> maybe, if you've made a mistake, you get a console on restart...
[10:27] <llutz> Minnozz: you'll need the xp-drivers for ndiswrapper
[10:27] <figdor> wtf
[10:27] <Fusion_> hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. i didn't have this problem with edgy. thanks
[10:27] <soa2ii> just change your things and everything will be fine again... ok?
[10:27] <godstorm> ?
[10:27] <soa2ii> figdor: if you get an error
[10:27] <figdor> my linux is fucked
[10:27] <godstorm> lol
[10:27] <soa2ii> do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf again
[10:27] <Minnozz> llutz: is that hard to install?
[10:27] <llutz> Minnozz: if you speak italian :) http://lucaberna.netsons.org/2007/04/23/ubuntu-festy-ndiswrapper-realtek-rtl-8187-asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/
[10:27] <figdor> ok
[10:27] <llutz> Minnozz: not really
[10:28] <soa2ii> and remove your changes
[10:28] <figdor> gr8
[10:28] <godstorm> any one here?
[10:28] <soa2ii> then everything will like now
[10:28] <figdor> and how do i restart the xserver?
[10:28] <soa2ii> now you can restart your x-server
[10:28] <figdor> how?
[10:28] <soa2ii> logout
[10:28] <figdor> hmm
[10:28] <soa2ii> and choose "restart x-server"
[10:28] <Minnozz> llutz: too bad, only Dutch, English and a little German, French and Latin
[10:28] <soa2ii> from the menu
[10:29] <figdor> can i close the konsole
[10:29] <figdor> ?
[10:29] <soa2ii> yes
[10:29] <soa2ii> i thing nano is away
[10:29] <soa2ii> isnt it?
[10:29] <llutz> Minnozz: important in that link are only the blue-underlayed commands, follow them if you have got your win.drivers ready
[10:29] <Minnozz> llutz: ok i'll try
[10:29] <soa2ii> i hope figdor will be back (:
[10:30] <Minnozz> llutz: do I need to have anything installed before i follow that guide?
[10:30] <llutz> Minnozz: i guess ndiswrapper is already installed
[10:30] <Turazoor> soa2ii: I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:30] <Turazoor> YAY!
[10:30] <soa2ii> Turazoor: yes?
[10:30] <soa2ii> what was it? (:
[10:30] <llutz> Minnozz: otherwise: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper
[10:31] <Turazoor> i blacklisted rt2570 cos that was what was loading the rt25usb
[10:31] <Turazoor> soa2ii: but now it stalls on connection, trying to configure device lol!
[10:32] <soa2ii> :/
[10:32] <Turazoor> soa2ii: its just problem after problem lol !
[10:32] <soa2ii> yes... linux and wlan...
[10:32] <Turazoor> but at least it aint lagging da system lol!
[10:32] <soa2ii> i hate those restrictive manufactures...
[10:32] <Turazoor> soa2ii: so u reckon belkin have stopped it against use from linux?
[10:33] <soa2ii> figdor is away such a long time... i think he destructs his xorg.conf :(
[10:33] <soa2ii> Turazoor: no not really... but there are "nice" manufactures and those who are not so nice...
[10:33] <Turazoor> ok then
[10:34] <Minnozz> what exactly is gksu
[10:34] <knuffi> hallo
[10:34] <llutz> Minnozz: forget that line
[10:35] <soa2ii> Minnozz: i think some sudo frontend for GNOME
[10:35] <Minnozz> can I just skip it?
[10:35] <llutz> Minnozz: use "sudo nano /etc/...."
[10:35] <soa2ii> Minnozz: where does it appear?
[10:35] <llutz> soa2ii: http://lucaberna.netsons.org/2007/04/23/ubuntu-festy-ndiswrapper-realtek-rtl-8187-asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/
[10:36] <Minnozz> I don't speak Italian so I can't read the comments
[10:36] <llutz> Minnozz: open nano and add a line "blacklist rt8187"
[10:37] <soa2ii> he all... i am sorry but my girlfriend has smth better to do ;)
[10:37] <Minnozz> what's nano?
[10:37] <llutz> soa2ii: let's do her alone
[10:37] <soa2ii> i hope you "understand" ;)
[10:37] <llutz> Minnozz: an editor
[10:37] <soa2ii> llutz: i don't know if that works ;)
[10:37] <soa2ii> Minnozz: nano is like terminal-kate ;)
[10:37] <llutz> Minnozz:"sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[10:38] <llutz> soa2ii: scary IF it works
[10:38] <soa2ii> well... have fun then and greet figdor if he'll be back once ;)
[10:38] <soa2ii> llutz: :P (:
[10:38] <soa2ii> good night
[10:38] <llutz> gn
[10:38] <Minnozz> lol
[10:38] <Minnozz> this explains
[10:39] <llutz> Minnozz: enter above command into a konsole
[10:39] <vc> daaaamn
[10:39] <Minnozz> yeah I did
[10:39] <vc> the OS is sooooo slow now....
[10:39] <Minnozz> they're already blacklisted
[10:39] <Minnozz> that probably why it doesn't work
[10:39] <llutz> Minnozz: fine, CTRL-X to leave
[10:40] <Minnozz> # buggy driver causes kernel BUG on load (Ubuntu: #78255, #88430)
[10:40] <llutz> Minnozz: hehe, known crap
[10:40] <Minnozz> so I can follow the guide from there on?
[10:40] <apocalypto> Hi everyone, quick question. My university has a WPA2 Enterprise with Dynamic WEP type wireless. Knetworkmanager doesnt connect to such networks. Rather I cant specify key type as dynamic WEP. Is there some other *GUI* front end which can be used?
[10:41] <sk1t3lles> Hi I am looking to setup a basic firewall for kubuntu like i want to block X11 ports, disable source routing, icmp packets, syn and smurf attacks, can anyone point me to a site that offers information on doing this for kubuntu or ubuntu
[10:41] <llutz> Minnozz: follow from "ndiswrapper..." after you got the win.driver unpacked to a directory
[10:42] <Minnozz> llutz: do I need win98 driver?
[10:43] <llutz> Minnozz: win98 or xp
[10:43] <Minnozz> good
[10:43] <llutz> Minnozz: i'm not sure, never used ndiswrapper myself
[10:43] <Minnozz> because there is no 98
[10:43] <figdor> wheres that dude that helped me before
[10:43] <llutz> figdor: he has to do a hard job in real-life
[10:43] <Fusion_> hi. i need help. can someone tell me why the only way i can play VCDs is by typing - mplayer vcd://2 - in a terminal. mplayer, xine ui, gxine, totem, kaffeine - all of these can't. thanks
[10:43] <cbtis155> hola atodos , decasualidad alguien abla espaol
[10:44] <llutz> !es | cbtis155
[10:44] <ubotu> cbtis155: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:44] <figdor> hmm
[10:44] <figdor> its just
[10:44] <figdor> i made a change in the
[10:44] <figdor> config?
[10:44] <cbtis155> gracias
[10:44] <figdor> now i can boot two of the same OS'
[10:44] <figdor> before there was only one
[10:44] <figdor> and its veeeeery slow now
[10:49] <Turazoor> can anyone help!
[10:49] <Turazoor> i have some source gzs
[10:49] <buti> hi.
[10:50] <Turazoor> being a noob to linux, i'm not quite sure what to do with em, i need to use ndiswrapper for my wlan card, but wot do i do lol
[10:50] <apocalypto> Please help. Is there a way I could connect to a wireless connection that has WPA2 Enterprise with Dynamic WEP? I want a GUI tool
[10:50] <buti> how can i help improve (k)ubuntu for the macbookpro3
[10:52] <lnx_> someone know how to print in kubuntu with CANON PIXMA IP1500 ?
[10:57] <blackchaos> can sum 1 give me the command so that i can be able 2 edit my grub boot menu list
[10:58] <llutz> blackchaos: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:58] <blackchaos> k thx alot
[10:58] <drif> blackchaos: or kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:58] <Turazoor> hi peeps.... what this mean
[10:58] <Turazoor>     4. Check your install (load module, bring interface up and scan):
[10:58] <Turazoor>         # modprobe rt73 [debug=<mask>
[10:59] <Turazoor> what is the debug all about?
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: thats all it gave you?
[10:59] <go11um> Hi everybody
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: and as well... is that a manual page, or a error message?
[11:00] <go11um> may i ask a question about wifi ?
[11:00] <Turazoor> thats a manual
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> hey go11um
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> go ahead
[11:00] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: it's part of a manual for setting up wlan rt73 source files!
[11:00] <go11um> i ve kubuntu feisty with a wag311 (atheros AR5212 a/b/G)
[11:00] <prak> does anyone know how to mount a new external hard drive?
[11:01] <prak> that's already formatted?
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: ah ok... first you have to modprobe the kernel module with the command "sudo modprobe rt73"
[11:01] <Turazoor> ah ha
[11:01] <Turazoor> *huh#
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: and the run "iwconfig and see if it sees your device
[11:01] <go11um> if i stop to use my wifi connexion for 5 minutes then no more surf.
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: # ussually means "run as root" in manual files
[11:01] <go11um> KNetworkmanager seems connected
[11:02] <Turazoor> kk i get nothing back after running sudo modp....
[11:02] <blackchaos> is there a notepad in kubuntu so that i can backup the original grub menu list just in case
[11:02] <Turazoor> is that normal?
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> go11um: it just dies on you?
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> go11um: or doesn't work at all?
[11:02] <go11um> but no more surf. till i refresh x time mye web page and then, knetwork manager reconnect
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: thats good. :)
[11:03] <Turazoor> then
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> blackchaos: kate?
[11:03] <Turazoor> iwconfig right
[11:03] <go11um> yep
[11:03] <go11um> all is ok as i was connected
[11:03] <blackchaos> is that the name of it?
[11:03] <go11um> disable ipv6
[11:03] <go11um> change nsswitch to file dns
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: in Linux... generally the less feedback, the better.
[11:04] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: if i run iwconfig, wlan0 is there
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> blackchaos: yeah.
[11:04] <blackchaos> kk
[11:04] <blackchaos> thx
[11:04] <brs> hi a--
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: good! run "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[11:04] <apocalypto> WPA2 Enterprise Dynamic WEP wireless support possible in kubuntu?
[11:04] <prak> does anyone know how to mount a new external hard drive that's already formatted?
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> hey brs
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> apocalypto: WEP for sure.. WPA should work too
[11:05] <brs> WPA no problem
[11:05] <Turazoor> thats the feedback:    wlan0     No scan results
[11:05] <lnx_> someone know how to print in kubuntu with CANON PIXMA IP1500 ?
[11:05] <ivan300> does anyone here has kubuntu installe?
[11:06] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: the other thing it says is run is ifconfig wlan0 up but that produces wlan0     No scan results
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: most of us do
[11:07] <Turazoor> **** no sorry that produces SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: you can see your AP in windows?
[11:07] <Turazoor> yep
[11:07] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: can you help me make it run??
[11:07] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: knetworkmanager is saying it can see anything either
[11:08] <apocalypto> @nosrednaekim: It doesnt.. My univ uses WPA2 Enterprose with Dynamic WEP. I cant specify Dynamic WEP as keytype in knetworkmanager. The option is there in nm-applet
[11:08] <go11um> could'u help me ??
[11:09] <jake__> Wheee. it's me again. Thanks for your help earlier everyone. I'm finally upgraded and back in action :)
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: you want to install?
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> apocalypto: oh.. dynamic WEP. IDK.
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: you have to run ifconfig commands as root
[11:10] <Turazoor> ok
[11:10] <joseph1110216> i set u a network on windows, how do i get rid of it now?
[11:10] <go11um> ok so no solution for my wifi issue.....
[11:10] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: no i got it installed and i can open the configurator but it wont run i dont know how to make it run and make the effects take place
[11:11] <brs> gollum - whats your issue? didnt get it
[11:11] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: still showing no access points
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: is this a laptop?
[11:11] <apocalypto> @nosrednaekim: Thanks anyways. nm-applet works in KDE as well. But it doesnt remember my settings. I have to type it everytime
[11:11] <go11um> have an issue with an atheros AR5212 pci board
[11:11] <brs> ok
[11:11] <go11um> it's not a laptop....
[11:11] <brs> whats the prob?
[11:11] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: no desktop
[11:12] <jake__> Hmm. I love Adept package manager.
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: I was thinking wireless swtiches.. but OK.
[11:12] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: the wlan is usb
[11:12] <go11um> if i use my connexion no probs... but if i stop to use my wifi connexion for 5 minutes then no more surf
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> oh.... usb. is it known to be suported?
[11:12] <brs> hmmm
[11:12] <go11um> knetwork manager is connected
[11:12] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: yep
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: oh.. you want beryl?
[11:13] <go11um> if i refresh x time a web page then knetwork manager reconnect to my ap
[11:13] <brs> it stays connected but no traffic goes through?
[11:13] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: i got compiz fusion
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor:ok.. is there a tutorial somehwere for that cipset?
[11:13] <go11um> yrp
[11:13] <go11um> yep
[11:13] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: i just wanna run it
[11:13] <go11um> i have disabled thipv6
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> !compiz | ivan300
[11:13] <ubotu> ivan300: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:13] <brs> ok
[11:14] <go11um> and modified nsswitch hosts entry to file dns
[11:14] <brs> i had a very similar problem on my laptop
[11:14] <brs> turned out to be a setting on the router though
[11:14] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: yes i used it for install but i cant run it with compiz --replace
[11:14] <go11um> yep i can understand that on a laptop
[11:14] <brs> what router or ap is it?
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: what video card do you have?
[11:15] <go11um> it a french ap FREEBOX
[11:15] <go11um> i'm using WPA TKIP/AES
[11:15] <brs> ok, never came across one of these
[11:15] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: i dont know, u can try looking is u wish, its a ralink rt73 chipset
[11:15] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: ati radeon xpress 200 i did run it on ubuntu but im new to kubuntu
[11:15] <brs> i used a workaround then
[11:15] <brs> until i figured it out
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: ah ok. you need XGL to get that running.
[11:16] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: it's the Belkin 54g USB Network adaptor F5D7050 rev/version 3001uk
[11:16] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: got it
[11:16] <brs> sort of a keep alive signal
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: did you log in in a XGL session?
[11:16] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: yes
[11:16] <brs> but of course thats no solution
[11:16] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: be back in a sec ill make sure
[11:16] <go11um> yep its not a solution
[11:17] <brs> did you check if there are any settings on the ap that could cuse this
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: what happens when you run compiz --replace?
[11:17] <brs> cause
[11:17] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: nothing
[11:17] <go11um> it's like an energy saving mode
[11:17] <brs> sounds like it
[11:17] <brs> but wasnt with me
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: if you run it from the console..it must spit out some errors..
[11:17] <brs> thats what i thought first
[11:17] <go11um> it's not the ap !!
[11:17] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: found a sort of manual to installation here: http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html
[11:18] <brs> it works fine under another OS?
[11:18] <go11um> my wife is actually using kubuntu and me im on windows XP
[11:18] <brs> ah, ic
[11:18] <go11um> i've no issue with my ap
[11:18] <brs> so xp it works fine then?
[11:18] <go11um> but my wife not
[11:18] <go11um> yes !
[11:18] <ivan300> ok w8
[11:18] <brs> ok
[11:18] <go11um> it's not the ap
[11:18] <brs> i see ;)
[11:19] <go11um> actually no more surf from kubuntu
[11:19] <go11um> but for me its ok
[11:19] <brs> hmmm
[11:19] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: ok im gonna call it a night, i've spent all day doing this!
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: ok. :)
[11:20] <brs> really strange thing with a desktop
[11:20] <go11um> yes
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> g'day mate!
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: we'll be around when you want to try again
[11:20] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: kk cheers
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: hey.. hows it going?
[11:20] <jcolvin> I need some help!
[11:20] <brs> wait a moment
[11:20] <jcolvin> Im a newbie and keep getting an error
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> not too bad, loving the lappy, though there are a few things that could have been a little better thought out
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> jcolvin: what's the error?
[11:20] <elite101> hello
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> and is there smoke emanating from your pc?
[11:21] <elite101> :P what?
[11:21] <jcolvin> it reads...The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: lol... manchicken loves his System76... hates dell ;)
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> lol
[11:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> o_O...   let's take a look at this, shall we?
[11:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> !aptfix
[11:21] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> perhaps
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[11:22] <brs> gollum - u speak french?
[11:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> jcolvin: did either of the commands it suggested help?  (bear in mind you have to preface them with sudo to run with superuser priveleges.
[11:22] <go11um> yep
[11:23] <jcolvin> how do you run with superuser privileges?
[11:23] <brs> check if that is something
[11:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> jcolvin: sudo <command>
[11:23] <jcolvin> sorry im really new to using linux
[11:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> not a problem, that's why we're here
[11:23] <jake__> type 'sudo' then the command in Konsole
[11:23] <brs> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=137500
[11:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, today i'll be playing the role of a long-time debian user
[11:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> rtfm!
[11:23] <brs> sounded similar but my french is long gone :D
[11:24] <jcolvin> so i go to run command and then type sudo <command>
[11:24] <drif> Daisuke_Laptop: ehm..bit stereotypical ;)
[11:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> drif: that was the idea :P
[11:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> jcolvin: it would be beneficial to open a terminal for this
[11:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> don't be afraid of it, learn to embrace it :)
[11:24] <jcolvin> how do you open a terminal?
[11:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> alt+f2 and type konsole
[11:25] <drif> Daisuke_Laptop: not sure about debian but that performance reminds me of #linux atleast
[11:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> drif: i just picked an old-school established distro.  could have done slackware, suse, or red hat
[11:25] <jcolvin> i get this syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[11:25] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: ints in the kmenu under system
[11:27] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: hey i entered on my xgl and it lookd alll messed up not like last night
[11:27] <jcolvin> I found it
[11:27] <brs> gollum - was that of any use - it sounded like a similar problem :D
[11:27] <jcolvin> now what do i type in?
[11:27] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: like what looked messed up?
[11:27] <pablitox> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:27] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: couldnt read anything everything was like lined
[11:27] <prak> does anyone know how to mount a new external hard drive that's already formatted?
[11:28] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: could you see any windows or anything?
[11:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> jcolvin: try sudo apt-get update
[11:28] <tatters> I got a centrino ipw2200 b/g wireless card it is being detected as eth1 but I am unable to enable the radio dmesg gives me [  159.368000]  ipw2200: Failed to send TX_POWER: Command timed out.
[11:28] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: try doing Alt+f2 and then "compiz --replace"
[11:28] <pablitox> como instalo messenger
[11:29] <nosrednaekim> tatters: your wireless switch on?
[11:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> tatters: this is going to sound dumb.  is it on?
[11:29] <jcolvin> Type 'deb' is not known on line 48 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah
[11:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's the problem
[11:29] <pablitox> auxilio  s.o.s
[11:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're going to need to do a little editing.  this is pretty painless
[11:29] <jcolvin> ok
[11:29] <tatters> yes it is enabled in BIOS and ifconfig eth1 up shows it enabled
[11:29] <jcolvin> i have faith
[11:29] <jcolvin> lol
[11:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> not in bios, on the front of the laptop.
[11:30] <tatters> the button ?
[11:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> aye
[11:30] <nosrednaekim> tatters: isn't there a wifi button on your laptop?
[11:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> jcolvin: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <tatters> well the button not work with feisty without script , the button just turns on off in BIOS
[11:31] <jcolvin> Could not find mime type
[11:31] <jcolvin> application/octet-stream
[11:31] <nosrednaekim> tatters: so push the switch and reboot.... I had to do that once.
[11:31] <go11um> ive turned off avahi
[11:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> uhbuh...  okay, i think my head just exploded
[11:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> looks like something happened to your sources.list
[11:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> is my best guess
[11:32] <brs> gollum - was that of any use to you?
[11:32] <go11um> on my ath0 PowerManagement is off
[11:32] <tatters> strange my touchpad worked also in dapper but cannot drop n drag in feisty
[11:32] <jcolvin> can it be fixed?
[11:33] <go11um> don't know
[11:33] <brs> sounded like a hit and it said resolved :D
[11:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> gonna try something here
[11:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> !source-o-matic
[11:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is a site you should visit :)
[11:34] <brs> its also all i could think off - not many more settings that could cause such a behavior unless the hardware is defective
[11:34] <brs> i mean the card in the PC
[11:36] <go11um> ok thank very much
[11:36] <go11um> See Ulater
[11:36] <jcolvin> Daisuke: it is still giving me errors when i went to source-o-matic and tried to make a new source list.
[11:36] <jcolvin> it said
[11:36] <jcolvin> Could not find mime type
[11:36] <jcolvin> application/octet-stream
[11:36] <brs> sure
[11:36] <brs> hope it works it out
[11:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: got any ideas on this one?
[11:38] <jake__> I'm out. Bye everyone.
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> who? jcolvin? when do these errors occur?
[11:39] <jcolvin> when kate tries to open a file
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: run "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm seeing some odd markings around some things from jcolvin, am i the only one?
[11:42] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: i still getting an error
[11:42] <jcolvin> jcolvin@JC:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <jcolvin> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:42] <jcolvin>   Major opcode:  145
[11:42] <jcolvin>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's not an error to worry about
[11:42] <genii> Daisuke_Laptop: Like the umlat over some letters etc?
[11:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's typical if you don't have a wacom tablet installed
[11:42] <jcolvin>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:42] <NickPresta> jcolvin, remove your wacom devices from your xorg.conf if you want to remove those. Don't worry about it
[11:42] <jcolvin> Failed to open device
[11:42] <jcolvin> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Major opcode:  145
[11:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> genii: yep
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:43] <jcolvin> Failed to open device
[11:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> whoa there pardner!
[11:43] <jcolvin> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Major opcode:  145
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> be a little less free about pasting a ton to the channel
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:43] <jcolvin> Failed to open device
[11:43] <jcolvin> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Major opcode:  145
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:43] <jcolvin>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:43] <jcolvin> Failed to open device
[11:43] <jcolvin> NickPresta: i new so youe going to have to tell me how to do that
[11:43] <jcolvin> daisuke: sorry
[11:43] <NickPresta> jcolvin, don't worry about it right now. Fix your first problem
[11:44] <jcolvin> NickPresta: how do i remove wacom from xorg.conf?
[11:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> at this point, it's not a huge issue, it's completely harmless and will cause no problems
[11:45] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: ok, what are you trying to do?
[11:45] <jcolvin> jcolvin, remove your wacom devices from your xorg.conf if you want to remove those. Don't worry about it
[11:46] <elite101> yahh* i just received Kubuntu 7.04 lol about 4of em'
[11:46] <elite101> they smell brand new*
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: those are harmless, wat were you trying to do before that?
[11:47] <jcolvin> to install a program
[11:47] <jcolvin> I was trying to open the adept installer and the error message came up
[11:48] <jcolvin> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:48] <jcolvin> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:49] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: I heard something about modifying your sources.list?
[11:49] <genii> I think sudo apt-get update is in order
[11:49] <nosrednaekim> IDK...i'm lost lol
[11:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> scratch the source-o-matic step
[11:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> apparently there's a not-nice line in his sources.list that begins with "deb
[11:50] <jcolvin> sudo apt-get update does not work
[11:50] <jcolvin> i get Type 'deb' is not known on line 48 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:51] <genii> typo in sources.list then
[11:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, not " (that's just how it kindasorta looks here)
[11:52] <jcolvin> so should i just reinstall kubuntu?
[11:52] <genii> jcolvin: no
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. looks like an extra quote there.
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: no.
[11:52] <jcolvin> lol
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" fo to line 48 and you will see a " character. remove it.
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> *go
[11:53] <genii> jcolvin: Just reopen again the file /etc/apt/sources.list for editing with:    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list        then go to line 48 where it has "deb   instead of just deb with no quote. Remove the quote. also if at the end of that line is a quote remove that too
[11:54] <nosrednaekim> genii: kate doesn't work for him... nano.
[11:54] <genii> nosrednaekim: Sorry, was typing all that before I looke dup at scroll LOL
[11:54] <genii> nosrednaekim: Ah, OK
[11:54] <nosrednaekim> quite all right my dear chap.
[11:55] <nosrednaekim> :)
[11:55] <nosrednaekim> and no, i'm not British :)
[11:55] <jcolvin> i have gotten into the sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:55] <genii> Me either
[11:55] <genii> nosrednaekim: I'll just spectate
[11:55] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: go to line 48
[11:56] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: how do i go to line 48?
[11:56] <jcolvin> i see
[11:56] <jcolvin>      [ line 1/51 (1%), col 1/1 (100%), char 0/2662 (0%) ] 
[11:56] <jcolvin> ^G Get Help  ^O WriteOut  ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text  ^C Cur Pos
[11:56] <jcolvin> ^X Exit      ^J Justify   ^W Where Is  ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell
[11:56] <nosrednaekim> down arrow?
[11:57] <jcolvin> oh
[11:57] <jcolvin> whoops
[11:57] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: how do i know which line is 48?
[11:57] <genii> jcolvin: The ^G and so on are tips for some shortcuts in nano. the ^ means the ctrl key.
[11:57] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: use the down arrow...
[11:58] <nosrednaekim> ummm when you scroll down, that "1/51" will change to "2/51"etc
[11:58] <lnx_> how i can choose my screen resulution ?
[11:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> 1024x768, i choose you!
[12:00] <nosrednaekim> lnx_: system settings-> display
[12:00] <nosrednaekim> my bad... "monitor& display"
[12:00] <jcolvin> line 48/51 reads
[12:00] <jcolvin>      [ line 1/51 (1%), col 1/1 (100%), char 0/2662 (0%) ] 
[12:00] <jcolvin> ^G Get Help  ^O WriteOut  ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text  ^C Cur Pos
[12:00] <jcolvin> ^X Exit      ^J Justify   ^W Where Is  ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell
[12:00] <jcolvin> whoops
[12:01] <jcolvin> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security multiverse
[12:02] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: no quotes anywhere near that line?maybe at the end of the previous line?
[12:02] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: quotes on the next line 49 deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main
[12:02] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: ah.. ther you go... remove those.
[12:03] <nosrednaekim> uhh oh... automatix..
[12:03] <nosrednaekim> :)
[12:03] <ivan300> nosrednaekim:hey im back
[12:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> and this ^^ is why this vv exists
[12:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> !automatix
[12:03] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:03] <ivan300> so what should i do??
[12:03] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: how do i save it now? or can i just exit the shell?
[12:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, the factoid for automatix has been updated
[12:04] <hellking> hi what is the  fast 2 put linux in  new pc with nothing in it?
[12:04] <genii> jcolvin: By remove those    he means delete the " at front of the line   and the " at the end of the line
[12:04] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: what you wanted me to do??
[12:04] <jcolvin> genii: i have removed/deleted the quotes
[12:04] <genii> jcolvin: You exit by ctr-q   then it will ask about saving. put Y for yes.
[12:05] <genii> jcolvin: then after Y for yes hit enter to not change the filename
[12:05] <genii> *ctr-q=ctrl-q
[12:05] <jcolvin> [ XON ignored, mumble mumble ] 
[12:06] <jcolvin> genii: thats what it said when i hit ctrl-q
[12:06] <genii> jcolvin: Make sure you did ctrl-q and not alt-q
[12:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> i thought exit in nano was ctrl-x
[12:06] <winbond> do i need to compile firefox to run it on the 64bit kubuntu?
[12:07] <genii> Daisuke_Laptop: Dammit yer right
[12:07] <genii> jcolvin: ctrl-x
[12:07] <genii> feel free to smack me around some
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: what did the XGL session look like?
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> I think its ctrl +o
[12:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> you should know by now that while i'm not always right, it happens every so often -_-
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: ctrl+o
[12:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> ctrl-o saves
[12:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> ctrl-x prompts to save then exits
[12:08] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: ctrl-x worked
[12:09] <cj__> hi. is there a regex i can use to match a group of patterns in any order? kinda like (foo|bar) but rather than or - and?
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: ah.. gotcha..
[12:09] <genii> Daisuke_Laptop: I like the ctrl-x since then you don't have to do 2 steps like save then go back and exit
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> cj__: I'm SURE there is... but this might not be the best cahennl for that question.
[12:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> genii: same here
[12:09] <genii> jcolvin: Anyhow now you should try again:    sudo apt-get update
[12:10] <nosrednaekim> same here too :)
[12:10] <fale_> hello
[12:10] <khaije1> anyone know the difference between miro and democracy players?
[12:11] <jcolvin> genii: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:11] <jcolvin> am i supposed to be in adminstrative mode?
[12:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes
[12:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> but this is a simpler issue
[12:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> is adept open?
[12:11] <genii> jcolvin: If you have adept open someplace on desktop close that window
[12:11] <jcolvin> oh
[12:12] <jcolvin> Failed to fetch http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[12:12] <jcolvin> Failed to fetch http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[12:12] <jcolvin> Reading package lists... Done
[12:12] <jcolvin> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:12] <jcolvin> is that good?
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: not if you want any automatix stuff
[12:13] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: how do i delete that automatix thing
[12:13] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: we dont support automatix nor thier repos please see thier website for info on how to get support
[12:13] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: its not easy if you installed anything from it
[12:13] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[12:13] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: i haven installed anything from it
[12:13] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> i love that analysis of automatix there
[12:14] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: than remove the repos from sources.list file and if you installed the automatix.deb remove it
[12:14] <titanix88_> nosrednaekim: hi
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> hello.
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> so technically cutting eh?
[12:14] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: im a newbie and you might have to explain that to me
[12:15] <gnomefreak> but they may know if there are little peices handing out somewhere else
[12:15] <jcolvin> how do i remove that automatix.deb?
[12:15] <genii> Towards the vat of Advil and coffee
[12:15] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: do you still have the full name of it
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: did you install anything via automatix?
[12:15] <WonDerBoy> hello
[12:15] <gnomefreak> nosrednaekim: he said no but automatix has a deb to install and it puts the repos in your sources.lsit
[12:15] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: no
[12:15] <gnomefreak> list even
[12:15] <WonDerBoy> im new to the whole ubuntu/kubuntu thing
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> WonDerBoy: ok...
[12:16] <titanix88_> hey i just upgreded myself from user to contributor! i sumitted an wallpaper.tang da da
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: gnomefreak: ah ok
[12:17] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: if you have the .deb somehwere just sudo dpkg -r filename.deb
[12:17] <titanix88_> lame pesky contribution though...:(
[12:17] <gnomefreak> replace filename with the file name of the automatix deb
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> :)
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> titanix88_: if you are an artist, Kubuntu needs you!
[12:20] <titanix88_> nosrednaekim: it was about edubuntu.plz give some comment. see the last pic(wiredubuntu) on the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/GutsyIdeas#preview
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> ok
[12:21] <t4m1n0> How can I set GRUB time to 3 seconds? now I have to wait automatically 8 seconds untill linux starts .. ??
[12:21] <gnomefreak> t4m1n0: theres a setting in /boot/grub/menu/lst
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> t4m1n0: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:22] <gnomefreak> t4m1n0: open it up in your fav. editor as sudo or kdesu and its right there maybe 4th section (depending on your set up)
[12:22] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: i have no idea where the .deb is
[12:23] <t4m1n0> gnomefreak, nosrednaekim thanks
[12:23] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: well i cant see your folders but try find automatix or look where you download the rest of your files
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> titanix88_: lol.. they ALL look great
[12:24] <gnomefreak> find automatix being a command
[12:24] <jake__> Hi everyone. It's me again.
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> as in "find automatix"
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> :)
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> hey
[12:24] <Biovore> !automatix
[12:24] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> Biovore: in this case we are eradicating it :)
[12:25] <Biovore> yay
[12:25] <jake__> I'd like some advice.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> jake__: what you need?
[12:25] <Biovore> Its a good idea..  but it implementation is horrible..
[12:25] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: i download files to my desktop and the only ones i see are sophos-av and wine-0.9.44
[12:25] <jake__> I don't have a problem, as such, I was just wondering if anyone knows any fun utilities I can add and play with on a low memory machine.
[12:25] <NickPresta> jake__, I like Supertux
[12:25] <jake__> Plenty fo HDD Space, very little RAM on this machine.
[12:26] <NickPresta> or did you actually mean utilities?
[12:26] <titanix88_> nosrednaekim: u can order me a high res version as of our special irc acquintance;) lol
[12:26] <jake__> Games and Utilities
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: open a terminal and type "cd Desktop" and then "ls"
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> titanix88_: :)
[12:26] <jake__> I've grabbed a few games already, but I like playing with utilities as well
[12:26] <titanix88_> hi jake__
[12:26] <jake__> Hey again titanix88
[12:27] <jake__> particularly, any ascii art utilities?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: that you most likely deleted it go into /var/cache/apt/archives and see if you see it if you do open anther terminal cd to home and sudo dpkg -r
[12:27] <titanix88_> jake__: art utilities?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> you just wan tto look in /var/cache/apt/archives dont delete anything
[12:27] <gnomefreak> from inside there
[12:27] <gnomefreak> jake__: imagemagic?
[12:28] <jake__> not so much graphics, but letter art.
[12:28] <gnomefreak> gimp maybe try apt-cache search ascii art
[12:28] <jake__> like I said, just things that are fun to mess around with in general. Games, Utilities. Whatever.
[12:29] <gnomefreak> and look through them
[12:29] <jake__> got the gimp already :)
[12:29] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: bash: /var/cache/apt/archives: is a directory
[12:29] <gnomefreak> that should be a good start atleast
[12:29] <elite101> hello
[12:29] <jake__> I used the gimp on my windows machine already
[12:29] <elite101> yes im finally off DSL :)
[12:29] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: if using a temrinal type cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:29] <gnomefreak> than once cd'ed there use ls
[12:30] <gnomefreak> or better yet cd there than ls | grep automatix
[12:30] <gnomefreak> maybe
[12:30] <titanix88_> jake__: inkscape?
[12:30] <elite101> how do i make my own livecd?
[12:30] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: now im on this jcolvin@JC:/var/cache/apt/archives$
[12:30] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: type ls
[12:31] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: than look through the list scroll up to the start of it if you cant you might want to use ls | less
[12:31] <elite101> i dont wanna make a Linux from scratch but i could make that my next project? i wanna take Kubuntu and say add and remove stuff then make it into a livecd again, how do i do that?
[12:31] <jake__> titnix88: I'm having a look now :)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> that will allow you to move down list with page down key or arrow
[12:31] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: didnt find anything pertaining to automatix
[12:31] <ivan300> could anyone help me with my compiz fusion??
[12:31] <titanix88_> jake__:  also blender. My favourite app.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ivan300: try in #ubuntu-effects
[12:32] <ScarFreewill> i closed kwallet and now it doesn't want to come back
[12:32] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: than im not sure the name of it look on thier site for the name
[12:32] <gnomefreak> ScarFreewill: is it already using a process?
[12:32] <ivan300> gnomefreaks: yes but they all got ubuntu i got kubuntu
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: there is no difference
[12:32] <jake__> vectors, that's like Coral right?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> ivan300: doesnt matter really
[12:32] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: well its not in my processes
[12:32] <elite101> anyone know how to make a livecd?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> elite101: try asking in #ubuntu-motu
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> !reconstructor | elite101
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconstructor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: do you know what the application name is for kwallet because its not kwallet
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ScarFreewill: i know its not and im trying to remember
[12:33] <jake__> titanix88: I'm not sure about Blender, I'm running this on a very low spec system
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: "kwalletmanager"
[12:33] <ScarFreewill> thanks
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ScarFreewill: what does starting it from terminal say?
[12:34] <jcolvin> gnome: i went to their site and i remember doing something with this link...http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/automatix2_1.1-4.12-7.04feisty_i386.deb
[12:34] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: in a terminal type sudo dpkg -r automatix2_1.1-4.12-7.04feisty_i386.deb
[12:34] <elite101> whats automatix used for?
[12:34] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: its comes back now (when i run the app kwalletmanager) but there is not wallets
[12:34] <gnomefreak> !automatix | elite101
[12:34] <soniczip> hello
[12:34] <titanix88_> jake__: lower than me? 2.26GHz P4,512MB,Geforce4MX4000(i hate it!)
[12:35] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: hey i opened my xgl and it looked lined i pressed alt f2 and i put compiz --replace the screen went blue like my background and then returned to the crappy on
[12:35] <ubotu> elite101: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:35] <nerv203> titanix: Yup :)
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: hmmm ok
[12:35] <elite101> ahh i remember it now*
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: again... ask in #ubuntu-effects... they know more about this.
[12:35] <nerv203> titanix: 256 mb RAM, integrated video  P3
[12:35] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[12:35] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: after you do that open editor as sudo kdesu and remove all automatix repos
[12:36] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: did you type exactly what i did
[12:36] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: copied and pasted
[12:36] <gnomefreak> automatix2_1.1-4.12-7.04feisty_i386.deb is the package name
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: where did you DL it to?
[12:36] <NickPresta> genii, the world would implode!
[12:36] <gnomefreak> nosrednaekim: its gone
[12:36] <gnomefreak> nosrednaekim: he said desktop