[12:33] have to learn to live. reach into the light. changing all the time. === azeem_ is now known as azeem === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@c9500471.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:47] Hi. I'm looking for Michael Vogt or someone responsible for displayconfig-gtk [12:47] I was wondering why isn't a translation template available for this application [12:47] talk to mvo [12:48] mvo, if you are responsible for displayconfig-gtk, why isn't there a translation template available? [12:48] is a translation still considered a moving target? [12:49] TomaszD: let me have a look [12:49] mvo, sure. It's just that it stands out terribly among other, translated modules in the menu [12:50] and it's an essential part of the system now, so it should be available for translation, I guess === mathiaz [n=mathiaz@dsl-207-112-92-37.tor.primus.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:54] TomaszD: its missing from launchpad (the translation template)? [12:54] mvo, https://translations.launchpad.net/~displayconfig-gtk/ [12:54] it's not there or am I looking in the wrong place? [12:56] TomaszD: it's the wrong URL, but it still seems not to have translations: https://launchpad.net/displayconfig-gtk/ [12:56] it looks like some missing magic in the debian/rules file === mvo goes to fix it [12:56] ah, I see. "Translation setup needed" [12:57] mvo, thank you! I'll be going now, it's 1AM... 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Not exactly on-topic, sorry for that. [05:23] Is that a link to his google talk? [05:24] Yes. [05:25] Way off topic - way old news :-) [05:25] Still a good presentation though! [05:26] Especially where he ridicules code.google, and svn - knowing that the developers for both are in the audience === Clinton__ [n=clinton@c-68-61-79-1.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:50] nice any call to hwclock on my tx1215nr makes the system freeze with "/dev/rtc does not have interrupt functions. Waiting in loop for time to change in /dev/rtc." :/ === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [n=fabbione@217.207.76.231] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-devel === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Parisi [n=jblparis@pool-71-164-72-155.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Parisi [n=jblparis@pool-71-164-72-155.albyny.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Steck [n=Steck@c-24-12-49-58.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lando [n=lando@adsl-074-236-035-138.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-241-163-224.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mat|loin [n=mat@home.virgule.info] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Trewas [i=ilonen@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Ng [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.157] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ant30 [n=aperezar@19.Red-80-59-20.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waves [08:52] It's hobbseemaster flash! === Hobbsee twirls around in a puff of smoke [08:53] RAOF: coming to slug tomorrow? === HeadbangingMan [n=conny@88.134.138.113] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RAOF checks his schedule... [08:54] Awesome. What an excellent conjunction. SpockSoc's playing _Invasion_ which was crap :) [08:54] You may well see me there :) [08:54] haha === Hobbsee pokes TheMuso_ === stub [n=stub@tetkyo018147.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:58] Oooh, lifeless is talking. Cool. [08:58] nice [08:59] RAOF: where is that? [08:59] highvoltage: http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=173-185+Sussex+Street,+Sydney+NSW+2000 [09:00] High-performance python! === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-25-203.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Havis [n=Havis@adsl-d239.87-197-156.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Company [n=Company@e176105120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === moyogo [n=moyogo@host-212-68-229-3.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:22] hi, anybody in charge of xkeyboard-config around? [09:23] probably a little aerly for that [09:24] ok :-) === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-ea7d95e2d6d0cbf7] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:44] good morning seb128, fabbione [09:45] hey Hobbsee [09:48] morning === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-5d9b02a2d9f2bdc9] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:52] hi fabbione [09:52] Hobbsee: do we have a list of bugs nominated for gutsy and waiting to be approved or not somewhere? [09:53] seb128: um, there would be a list somewhere yes, but like i siad on that bugmail, we really dont use it [09:53] we tend to only use it a little for tribes - but choose to use the milestone stuff instead [09:53] what bugmail? [09:53] what tribe? [09:53] maybe my question was not clear ;) [09:54] you know, you can nominate a task for gutsy [09:54] and then it's listed with an approve or decline option === Havis [n=Havis@adsl-dyn191.91-127-110.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=renate@host-82-135-29-2.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:04] re Hobbsee === glatzor [n=renate@host-82-135-29-2.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor_ [n=renate@host-82-135-29-2.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=norsetto@host139-223-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === milli [n=milli@adsl-64-175-41-229.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | UVF in place | Tribe 5 out === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Aug 23 23:56:29 2007 === #ubuntu-devel [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:59] RAOF: what standard does KDE not follow? [10:59] Viewports, IIRC. [11:00] Making the KDE workspace switcher get freaked out under Compiz [11:00] can someone have a look at bug 129572 [11:00] Launchpad bug 129572 in powertop "Please sync powertop (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129572 [11:01] Kmos: is it urgent? [11:01] Hobbsee: ups, it's already acked 2 times [11:01] Hobbsee: no [11:01] Kmos: and why would the general motu-uvf people be here? [11:02] Kmos: i thought seb128 told you about bringing up bugs that were not urgent, but that were $yourpetbugs. [11:02] Hobbsee: because you don't check my bugs? and jono told me to ask anything I want here [11:02] Kmos: i do, occasionally. [11:03] i prefer not to, but i do regardless. [11:03] Hobbsee: i just want to finish these ones, because I won't file syncs anymore. [11:03] they will be finished. just be patient, and accept that people have other things to do too. [11:03] Hobbsee: yeah, like me now.. need to go, and getdeb will have more updates today. [11:03] cool [11:04] Kmos: ubuntu-archive has been subscribed less than 1 day ago, you need a little patience ;) [11:04] seb128: I see that 1 minute ago, sorry.. i just need to wait now [11:05] right === pbn [i=pbn@wopr.geekshells.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-303da122bc064055] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:09] iwj: please could you review the MIRs for drac and libwpg? === Kopfgeldjaeger [n=nicolai@p54AD6081.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:12] hi [11:16] doko, if you rebuild mknbi, you might want mkelfimage as well [11:17] (even though i suspect there are not many netbooting lpia machines with LinuxBIOS yet :) ) [11:17] ogra: already built for lpia [11:17] oh, ok [11:17] i just saw the mknbi one, sorry === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:31] doko: Sure. [11:32] (Morning) [11:36] iwj: thanks, I asked tkamppeter to to write one for cupsddk (b-d of splix) as well === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=norsetto@host139-223-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Demitar [n=demitar@c-212-031-190-120.cust.broadway.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-77c5066acb395cff] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.appl.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:12] seb128: who's usually doing the Gtk Perl stuff? === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] input hot plugging! [12:18] hell has froze over! [12:18] I can't wait for Version 1.4 of the X server :) maybe I'll just built it myself === norsetto [n=norsetto@host139-223-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:25] glatzor_, hey I noticed you're also responsible for displayconfig-gtk. I told mvo yesterday that there's no translation template in rosetta available and he said he'll fix it but nothing changed in Rosetta, so I'm thinking that maybe he forgot and you could do this, there seems to be some missing debian/rules magic missing. The webpage is https://translations.launchpad.net/displayconfig-gtk/ [12:25] *-missing [12:25] :] [12:26] TomaszD: thanks. we just need to upload it. [12:26] glatzor_, ok, ETA on this? This is quite urgent you know :] [12:27] TomaszD: perhaps tomorrow. I want to fix some bugs before. [12:27] glatzor, alright. Thanks. [12:27] just keep in on the radar please, this isn't a thing to forget ;] === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] TomaszD: you don't need to be afraid of this === _TomB [n=tomb@host86-145-195-250.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] TomaszD: if you want to keep track of this issue subscribe to LP #134576 [12:32] glatzor, great tip, thanks [12:32] seb128: upstream says there's a fix to the gtk API change, do you know where I could find it? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463773#c10 [12:34] subscribed === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] doko: nobody [12:37] Riddell: there is no gtk API breakage [12:37] Riddell: it's just making issues with incorrect usage where it was not [12:38] it's on my list of things to look at though [12:38] ok, there's a fix to the change which makes flash and acroread break :) [12:38] that's not upstream [12:38] I think this guy is working for some non major distro [12:38] or bsd or something [12:38] anyway, if you help me find that patch I can test it [12:38] dunno what he patched and where [12:39] hi infinity === jamiemcc [n=jamie@82-32-8-26.cable.ubr02.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:40] in the ubuntu-server meeting the other day, they suggested I issue a bug report for the LAMP test page [12:40] Riddell: well the comment is clear enough, how do one trigger the bug? I can test a change if I know how to test [12:40] if you haven't seen it yet, it is bug #135624 [12:40] seb128: testcase is here https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=294385#c55 [12:40] bug 135624 [12:41] Launchpad bug 135624 in php5 "should provide LAMP test page" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135624 [12:41] Novell bug 294385 in GNOME "glib2 busyloops, blocking Konqueror and Opera on flash sites" [Blocker,Assigned] [12:42] Riddell: have you seen http://people.mandriva.com/~boiko/patches/kdebase-3.5.7-fix_flashplayer_nsplugin.patch ? [12:42] seb128: yes, but adding a dependency from kde to gtk is an ugly ugly workaround [12:42] lol seb128 :) [12:42] hi saispo [12:42] saispo: why "lol"? [12:43] hi ;) [12:43] you use mandriva patches ? :p [12:43] we use patches from wherever they come from, if they fix problems [12:43] Riddell: the comment you pointed shows that libflashplayer is buggy, it doesn't give a way to trigger the bug [12:44] saispo: why not? ;) In fact I don't, GNOME works fine, I suggest a workaround for kubuntu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:44] seb128: yes i see :) [12:45] anybody in charge of xkeyboard-config around? [12:45] seb128: novell 294385#c55? it has test code in it to recreate the issue (regardless of who's fault the issue is) [12:45] Novell bug 294385 in GNOME "glib2 busyloops, blocking Konqueror and Opera on flash sites" [Blocker,Assigned] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=294385 [12:46] Riddell: right, I was being lazy and wondering if that happens with real world applications in Ubuntu [12:46] it would be nice to have the latest xkb-data to have the new keyboard layouts in gusty [12:46] like something I can install, run, notice it's buggy [12:46] seb128: well yes, flash in non gtk browsers and acroread [12:46] like gn which allows to type Nko for example [12:46] that would help localizers to work with gusty [12:47] moyogo: I'll have a look in a bit - on the phone now [12:47] thanks [12:47] (I don't do xkeyboard-config as such but I do console-setup which is related) [12:47] bah [12:47] "expr: syntax error" when running acroread [12:49] Riddell: acroread is not the same issue and will not be fixed by this change [12:49] they access to GTK+ internal structure in a non documented way [12:49] and bad luck for them there is no stability guaranty for those [12:49] seb128: ok, try opera or konqueror with flash then [12:49] and the tooltip API has been deprecated and replaced by a new one [12:49] k, will do that [12:55] ArneGoetje: ping === boggle [n=spindler@modemcable045.37-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === boggle is now known as TeTeT === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:cb36:1c0d:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:08] iwj: cupssdk MIR is now available as well === iwj looks. === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:13] Uh, Apple's CUPS is GPLv2-only ? === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pmatulis [n=pmatulis@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] doko: Also approved. [01:19] I like these nice simple packages. === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:20] iwj: do you want something more demanding, including license review? [01:21] Perhaps. What would I be letting myself in for ? :-) [01:22] licence review is an archive admin function, surely [01:22] it shouldn't be in universe if its licence isn't free [01:22] cjwatson: That was my understanding. [01:23] I've certainly not really been looking at licensing. (My comment above was an aside, prompted by happening to stumble across a GPLv2 notice.) [01:23] not to say it isn't worth sanity-checking, but I don't think it's worth spending lots of time on deciphering legalese at the MIR stage ... [01:24] (some "free" licences have obviously had rather too many lawyers involved.) === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:25] iwj: icedtea [01:26] OMG === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.static.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac__ [n=asac@e177167000.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-87923909229535ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pbn_ [i=pbn@wopr.geekshells.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CicalaMvta [n=CicalaMv@chello062178169104.13.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:56] seb128: gtk compile errors "/home/jr/src/gtk/gtk+2.0-2.11.6/modules/printbackends/cups/gtkcupsutils.c:638: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" === manchicken [n=manchick@ubuntu/member/manchicken] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pedro [n=pedro@pc-88-220-44-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:59] Anybody know who may be able to fix network-manager issues? I'm having a heck of a time with bug #93360. [01:59] Launchpad bug 93360 in dhcdbd "Dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.reason" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93360 [01:59] manchicken: asac === cr3 [n=cr3@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchick@74-134-242-176.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === manchicken__ [n=manchick@74-134-229-145.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3_ [n=cr3@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:12] manchicken: what wifi chipset? === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-78b404d23851f44d] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] Also, anybody around to look at bug 119266? I haven't had out-of-the-box sound since I upgraded this box to gutsy [02:14] Launchpad bug 119266 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Intel HDA Sound device doesn't work in gutsy" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119266 [02:16] Treenaks, it works now, since last linux-ubuntu-modules [02:16] jwendell: oh, I see the reboot icon now.. === somerville32 [n=Guest@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pbn_ is now known as pbn === cr3_ is now known as cr3 === ogra curses debconf ... === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@33-62.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:27] cjwatson, i'm trying to rework my udeb scripts for ltsp http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35650/ results in a ot of text output "... return: ... Illegal number" in the debconf screen, do you have any hints why that happens or where it comes from ? === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel === deadwill [n=deadwill@146037.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=mario@131-44.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanDM_ [n=JanDM@proxy-1.kliksafe.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] ogra: sounds like your debconf communication has got out of sync [02:59] or something else is interfering with stdio [02:59] oh, ok [02:59] I'm prepared to bet large sums of money it's not debconf's fault [03:00] surely my fault :) [03:00] I'm on the phone but I see one problem [03:00] will let you know in a bit [03:00] hi, since alsa 1.0.14 I had a problem with my sound card. So I asked on alsa-devel, and they created a patch, [03:00] but this patch is not included in ubuntus current alsa version [03:00] so i have to compile alsa myself with every kernel update, [03:01] can I ask to include it somewhere? [03:02] JanDM_, i guess best is to discuss that in #ubuntu-kernel [03:02] okay, thank you! [03:02] (not sure though, depends if its for a module) === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:03] ogra: yes it's a kernel module [03:03] then -kernel should be right [03:03] ogra: ok, your problem is probably that 'cat $FIFO | while read line' uses stdio, which is getting in the way of using debconf [03:03] oh, ok [03:03] ogra: I encountered this same problem in the past in archive-copier [03:04] ogra: what you should do instead is: [03:04] so i need to redirect that as well [03:04] while read line <&9; do ...; done 9<$FIFO [03:04] ah, right === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.appl.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] ogra: also why is it all within 'while true'? you should probably remove that otherwise it'll just sit in an infinite loop - the 'while read line' is good enough as a loop [03:05] yeah, thats for playing [03:05] ogra: you also might want to put 'rm $FIFO' before 'exit 0' ;-) [03:05] i had that in two scripts initially, echoing stuff to the fifo :) [03:05] yeap, what i have here locally evolved already a bit :) === JanDM_ [n=JanDM@proxy-1.kliksafe.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-c8dbcdae1b93617e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:08] Mithrandir: If you have a minute to look into a licensing question, I've consulted a couple of other MOTUs and were are unsure if http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=139 would be suitable for multiverse or not. Technically the package is ~OK, so I wanted to get a read on if it could be accepted in the archive before I pushed on the packager to fix it up some more. [03:10] "It is NOT PERMITTED to distribute ANY OF THESE FILES for commercial (or profit) purposes." I think that's ok for multiverse, although elmo will know for sure [03:10] cjwatson, works (outside of d-i at least) thanks a lot :) === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:12] ogra: you're welcome [03:13] Riddell: Thanks. [03:14] Riddell: that's ok for multiverse, assuming permission for non-{commercial,profit} purposes is granted [03:14] elmo: That's, I think, the real question. [03:14] If it says you can't distribute for commerical purposes, can one infer permission to do it for non-commercial? [03:15] ScottK: no [03:15] elmo: Thanks. === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe88fb00-133.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kagou [n=Patrice@77.193.177.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:32] Could someone wave the magic stick at zziplib's sparc build and raise it's priority? I'd like to see if it builds so it can rescued from NEW. === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@33-62.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveira [n=adilson@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@wks227.usinasantoantonio.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tseliot [n=tseliot@host104-14-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:44] ScottK: I'll take a look [03:45] Mithrandir: elmo said he thought not, but a second opinion would be useful. Thanks. === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:48] cjwatson, i assume archive-copier doesnt chroot into a sub-chroot in /target .... seems it doesnt work for me as soon as ltsp-build-client starts to run stuff inide the chroot [03:48] *inside [03:49] ogra: that's irrelevant to debconf [03:50] probably a red herring [03:50] perhaps you lost stdout somewhere else [03:50] well... somehow the chrooted commands end up on the debconf screen again [03:50] yeah [03:50] debconf couldn't care less whether you've chrooted [03:50] obviously ... [03:50] we do it all the time [03:50] all you need to do is send commands down the right fd [03:51] seb128: gnome-power-manager still hates some architectures: [03:51] gpm-profile.c:342: warning: cast increases required alignment of targgpm-profile.c:342: warning: cast increases required alignment of target typeet type [03:51] gpm-profile.c:342: warning: cast increases required alignment of target type [03:51] stupid mouse [03:51] from the code you showed me earlier, it would in fact be unable to tell whether ltsp-build-client is chrooting itself or not [03:51] cjwatson, right, that means ltsp-build-client needs internal redirects ... [03:51] err [03:52] surely absence of internal redirects [03:52] if you don't redirect, fds get left alone [03:52] basic Unix [03:52] right, and the chrooted commands use stdout it seems ... [03:52] instead of my redirect [03:52] so? it's the same stdout that you redirected to the fifo [03:52] no [03:52] that is not possible [03:52] hmm [03:53] "stdout" is just an fd === ssam [n=sam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:53] when you redirect, you *throw away* the old fd [03:53] ltsp-build-client doesn't have it [03:53] /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 42: 3: Bad file descriptor [03:53] thats what i got now [03:53] after it extracted templates for apt from the CD# [03:53] go thunderbird! [03:54] does ltsp-build-client talk to debconf anywhere? [03:54] oh, it's installing packages, isn't it? === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:54] indeed [03:54] andits setting the frontend iirc [03:54] so you cannot do this whole scheme === ogra greps [03:54] it will be a race condition [03:55] you can't run ltsp-build-client in the background and simultaneously talk to debconf from somewhere else [03:55] hmm [03:55] ltsp-build-client needs to handle the debconf interaction itself, and it probably needs to use in-target to chroot [03:55] which will deal with the debconf passthrough gubbins you need [03:55] no, i dont have in-target in normal installs, wont work === giskard_ [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:55] check whether it's there then [03:56] phew ... thats a lot of plugins to change then === ogra looks through them [03:56] that's probably not the right approach [03:56] pick apart in-target and do its chroot setup stuff at the top level if you're being called in a context with a debconf frontend already running [03:57] ok === ogra goes to dig [03:57] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download - the language on the second option "64 bit AMD and Intel computers" seems potentially confusing [03:57] and, on the same condition, have ltsp-build-client source the confmodule and do the progress output itself [03:57] Someone just told me they interpreted it as (64 bit AMD) and Intel computers [03:57] mjg59: I think there's an ubuntu-website project for bug reports on that [03:58] Cool. === sabdfl [i=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tseliot [n=tseliot@host104-14-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:16] ogra: I had to sync the usplash-theme-ubuntu.c in kubuntu usplash with ubuntu to fix verify CD, edubuntu may need the same [04:17] Riddell, thanks fo rteh hint === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mathiaz [n=mathiaz@dsl-207-112-92-37.tor.primus.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:28] Heya === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-613decd1a5ccddcd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@JBrannlund.MathStat.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rulus [n=rulus_|@d54C1A033.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508DBB91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@0x573c0608.boanqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveira [n=adilson@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:38] seb128, around? === eggauah [n=daniel@201.82.10.96] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:46] This is quite tedious. My shiny disk-full logging libc doesn't seem to be very happy. === chrisle [n=chris@e178087069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:48] Is the archive closed off for NEW already or not? === ScottK would guess that as long as it's 30 AUG somewhere, it's OK. === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:50] ScottK: Cool, help me fix up sdlmame then ;-P [04:50] Sorry, trying to do $WORK right now. [04:50] pfft, work, schmurk :-) === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Bye!"] === moyogo [n=moyogo@host-212-68-229-3.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === dendro [n=dendroba@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-75fc50bf310e1ad5] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ImNOTcesarefalco [n=norsetto@host139-223-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:22] doko: ping === atlas95 [n=atlas@84.5.38.248] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gustavold [n=gustavo@atlas-apm.wrk.terra.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === snikker [n=IRC@host136-144-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:40] jwendell: yes [05:41] seb128, did you see my comment on bug 34805? [05:41] Launchpad bug 34805 in vino "ALT GR key don't work." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34805 === evand_ [n=evand@acm.pct.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:42] jwendell: now I did, do you want to get the Ubuntu package patched with it? [05:42] seb128, no, i want to commit it in upstream in order to get it ready for 2.19.92 [05:43] seb128, but i'd like to see some tests before commit [05:43] seb128: mixer_applet2 still seems to be causing wakeups [05:43] mjg59: yes, we got a bug about that, I need to check if the current gstreamer tarball already has the required API or if that's CVS only [05:44] jwendell: gutsy is a good way to get testing ;) [05:44] seb128: It's in the released version, AFAICT [05:45] mjg59: let me have a look === rnorwood [i=rnorwood@nat/redhat/x-54bec1957e862191] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ant30 [n=ant30@85.136.149.28.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Artimus [n=jared@24-240-63-166.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:52] Is anyone able to get in touch with the people that run the Ubuntu Mailing Lists? It's not honoring my unsubscribe requests, it's been 3 days and I still haven't gotten the confirmation email. My inbox is being flooded, I'd like to unsubscribe, but mailman won't honor my choice. === somerville32 [n=cody-som@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:54] Artimus: #canonical-sysadmin [05:57] seb128, the problem is that the patch is insane, and i don't know if i or mark is able to fix some side effect [05:57] seb128, so, if i detect something is wrong, i won't apply it [05:58] k === norsetto [n=norsetto@host139-223-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:12] fabbione: who do you think I should assign bug 61151 to? [06:12] Launchpad bug 61151 in system-config-cluster ""separated" spelt incorrectly" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61151 === cassidy [n=cassidy@126.69-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:13] dholbach: is fix released? [06:13] fabbione: oh sorry - it's all good then [06:14] dholbach: eehheh [06:16] calc: is bug 133793 ok? [06:16] Launchpad bug 133793 in openoffice.org-voikko "Please sync openoffice.org-voikko from Debian" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133793 [06:17] lamont: how does bug 33586 look to you? [06:17] Launchpad bug 33586 in nmap ".desktop file cleanup for nmapfe" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33586 === Artimus [n=jared@24-240-63-166.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [06:19] dholbach: it looks like a bug in lp that I should review. :-) === lamont does so === dholbach hugs lamont [06:21] mjg59: ok, the patch is not working [06:21] seb128: Hm. How so? [06:21] mjg59: it has "#ifdef HAVE_GST_MIXER_NOTIFIES" [06:21] and I'm not sure what should define HAVE_GST_MIXER_NOTIFIES [06:22] greping for it in /usr/include doesn't return anything [06:22] seb128: Can you try just making that true? [06:22] dholbach: I'll be working on my packages this weekend (postfix, bind, nmap, packit, etc.) all of which have some bugs to be fixed... This should get in then. [06:22] if it's still open next week, please poke me. [06:23] lamont: you ROCK [06:23] lamont: hope you don't mind me assigning that bug to you [06:23] please do [06:23] I just thought you were the best one to get it done ;) === Demitar [n=demitar@c-212-031-190-120.cust.broadway.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:24] dholbach: generally speaking, if I'm the debian maintainer, you're welcome to assign it to me. [06:24] the bug patch lists are quite long, so I'll try to badger people some more [06:24] and I'll either assign it back to you, or fix it. :-) [06:24] and yes, I'm in a bit of an interesting mood today [06:24] mjg59: yes, looks like the gst-plugins-base0.10 version we have is enough, I'll do the change and upload [06:24] seb128: Thanks! [06:25] no problem ;) [06:25] iwj: what do you think about bug 63506? [06:25] Launchpad bug 63506 in adduser "Mistake in deluser.conf manpage" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63506 === lamont heads to the office === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:27] thanks lamont === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:33] dholbach: I think we should send the patch to the Debian BTS and we shouldn't bother with it. It's hardly the kind of thing worth carrying a diff for, surely ? [06:33] I mean, shouldn't bother patching our package. [06:33] iwj: ok [06:33] Do you agree ? I'm happy to forward it if you like. [06:34] ("hash" is the correct term.) [06:34] I think that the patch author could do that [06:34] Yes. [06:34] :-) [06:34] ok good [06:35] calc: can you add the patch on bug 134112 to your next upload? [06:35] Launchpad bug 134112 in openoffice.org "added Xb-Npp-xxx tags accordingly to "firefox distro add-on suport" spec" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134112 [06:35] it looks quite straight forward [06:36] we need more people going through the sponsoring queue and assigning reviews to people [06:36] and I need to fix http://daniel.holba.ch/sponsoring/ - I'll do that next week, when I'm home again [06:38] ah, you changed the team to send mails on a list [06:38] that explain why I didn't get sponsoring mails for some time [06:38] yeah, we talked about that a week or two ago [06:38] that was decided in the meeting [06:38] right, I didn't notice it would stop it to send me mails [06:39] I didn't think it'd do that [06:39] well, when a team has no list all the members are mailed === finalbeta [n=viper@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:39] hello, I'm the editor of a special edition Linux+ magazine about the upcoming Ubuntu 7.10. I'm currently writing articles about it and I need to get one answer. Will downloading language packages during installation work for the final version? Because it does not work at the moment [06:40] TomaszD: that's likely a bug we will fix yes [06:40] seb128, ok, thanks. [06:40] calc: also please check out the patch on bug 5462, if you have the time? [06:40] Launchpad bug 5462 in mc "Dutch translation: wrong shortcut" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5462 [06:40] TomaszD: I don't work on ubiquity though, is that known in launchpad? [06:40] TomaszD: maybe evand or cjwatson know about it [06:41] seb128, I'm not sure, but it's a bug that kind of stands out [06:41] so they probably know about it [06:41] I think I even saw it mentioned somewhere, but that's as vague a statement as they get [06:43] TomaszD: I hadn't noticed that bug, but I'd like to fix it; could you file it with details (attach /var/log/syslog to the bug)? [06:43] cjwatson, no problem, does the syslog stay after installation on the drive where I installed ubuntu? [06:43] I believe it's bug 131294 , which is assigned to me, but I haven't had a chance to review yet. [06:43] Launchpad bug 131294 in ubiquity "does not install language packs for the target language" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131294 [06:44] ahh, I knew I saw it somewhere! [06:44] TomaszD: /var/log/installer/syslog after installation [06:45] cjwatson, I'll attach that to this bug report soon === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-bcb17c17071e02fb] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:58] cjwatson, attached [06:58] oops, mixed up your names, requested by cjwatson not seb128 [06:58] I have to go now, bye [06:58] TomaszD: that's ok, thanks === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-241-188-121.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | UVF in place | Tribe 5 out === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Aug 23 23:56:29 2007 === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _wattazoum_ [n=wattazou@ant06-1-82-242-110-34.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora68 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-7d35aecd1f43f74d] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=norsetto@host139-223-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:05] mjg59: the new patch is still buggy, the volume icon is not updated correctly [07:05] seb128: Hm. [07:05] seb128: I'll look into it. [07:05] thanks [07:06] seb128: If you could put your package somewhere, that would help [07:06] mjg59: I'll upload the package with the buggy patch for now [07:06] Ok, cool [07:06] if you have a fix feel free to apply and upload ;) [07:06] Will do === Arby [n=richard@82.153.37.91] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:12] why if a "filename.templates" in (in the po folder) start with a comment (#) or a blank line, the templates file in the packaged version (with debuild) start with 2 blank lines? === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveira is now known as agoliveira_lunch === Arby [n=richard@82.153.37.91] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:26] hi, where the glib's function g_log() sends the data to? stdout? Is there a way to modify it, for example sending it to syslog ? [07:27] why if a "filename.templates" in (in the po folder) start with a comment (#) or a blank line, the templates file in the packaged version (with debuild) start with 2 blank lines? This happen in dapper [07:28] Does it echo in here, or is it just me? [07:29] gustavold: that's not really the right chan to ask coding questions [07:29] seb128: where should I? [07:29] gustavold: by default it sends the log to stdout or stderr, depending of the level [07:29] you can g_log_set_handler () to change the behaviour [07:30] gustavold: not sure, #gnome on gimpnet maybe [07:31] seb128: ok, thank you [07:32] utt [07:32] Whoops === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:33] I was typing :screen mutt, but in the middle of that, the screen window closed and the rest of the line went to the program in the remaining window, namely irssi. :-) === gustavold [n=gustavo@atlas-apm.wrk.terra.com.br] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:37] ogra: do you remember why pitti doesn't want ot use dbconfig-common for moodle ? [07:38] ogra: and also why not use wwwconfig-common ? [07:38] first of all he didnt want it ust for moodle in main [07:38] second he didnt want to *just replace* a security broken system with one thats only slightly better (in his opinion) [07:39] ogra: you're talking about dbcommon-config or wwwconfig-common ? [07:39] the clear advice he made was to replace wwwconfig-common with plain scripts for mysql and postgres creation [07:39] mathiaz, both [07:40] ogra: ok. Thanks for the clarification. [07:40] wwwconfig-common was refised by the security team [07:40] *refused [07:40]