[01:29] <Aethelred> I'd like to propose a change in the doc here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[01:29] <Aethelred> ... to include an alternative.
[01:30] <Aethelred> For 64-bit users, the existing solution boils down to "There was really no point in using AMD-64, so just regress to 32-bit apps"
[01:31] <Aethelred> For Browser Plugins, there is a compatability wrapper
[01:31] <Aethelred> The project is here:  http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/nspluginwrapper/
[01:32] <Aethelred> It's popular enough that there are many entires around the Ubuntu forums recommending it, and also some install scripts being advertised (also in the forums).
[01:32] <Aethelred> There are debs available.
[01:33] <Aethelred> I don't know if it's yet a suitable replacement for the existing g solution (regress to 32-bit browsers), but I think it warrants at least a mention in the official doc.
[01:38] <Aethelred> ...
[01:39] <Aethelred> righty-ho then.  Cheers.
[02:09] <jjesse> nixternal: this svn checkout of qt-copy is the slwoest ever
[02:09] <nixternal> hehe
[02:09] <nixternal> I am sitting in javascript class right now fighting sleep
[02:09] <jjesse> or maybe it just my crappy internet connection
[02:10] <nixternal> no, qt-copy is 100+mb I think
[02:10] <nixternal> or right around 80mb
[02:10] <nixternal> err, 100mb I mean
[02:10] <jjesse> wow
[02:10] <jjesse> watching family guy right now... man i love that show
[02:11] <nixternal> haha, stuey (spelling?) rocks
[02:11] <nixternal> I haven't watched it in a while
[02:11] <jjesse> yeah he does
[06:08] <CIA-33> Ubuntu Documentation: sbalneav * r4303 edubuntu/handbook/C/server.xml: Documented NBD chroots, and moved around format of lts.conf section
[06:08] <sbalneav> \o/ for docs
[06:09] <nixternal> you go!
[06:09] <sbalneav> Hey, any idea on how to build the edubuntu-docs package from the svn?
[06:09] <LaserJock> shesh
[06:09] <LaserJock> gimme a minute ;-)
[06:09] <sbalneav> hehehehehe
[06:10] <sbalneav> Demanding ***hole, aren't I? :)
[06:10] <nixternal> make all
[06:10] <LaserJock> well, I do a svn export first of all
[06:11] <LaserJock> then I look at the previous edubuntu-docs package
[06:11] <LaserJock> and see what I took out last time
[06:11] <LaserJock> then move edubuntu/debian up
[06:11] <LaserJock> :-)
[06:11] <nixternal> I just pull everything from Kubuntu, run my magic script to remove .svn and the other files I don't need, dch -i, and rock on
[06:12] <LaserJock> bah, svn export rocks
[06:12] <nixternal> can't say that I have ever used it
[06:12] <nixternal> how does that work?
[06:12] <LaserJock> it takes out all the .svn stuff
[06:12] <LaserJock> you go svn export <directory you want to export to>
[06:13] <nixternal> oh, I thought it did more...that is what my script does
[08:58] <mdke_> morning all
[09:26] <CIA-33> Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r4304 ubuntu/ (20 files in 20 dirs): updating pot templates
[09:26] <CIA-33> Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r4305 ubuntu/hardware/hardware.pot: new pot file for new document
[05:27] <j1mc> hi all
[05:28] <sbalneav> Hello
[05:29] <j1mc> i was curious - do you think we'll do a test build of all flavors of ubuntu docs for the tribe 6 release?
[05:29] <j1mc> so that we can iron-out any last minute bugs before string freeze?
[05:30] <j1mc> tribe 6 is set to be released on 9/6, and string freeze is set for 9/13.
[05:33] <j1mc> I guess I'll send a note out to the ML about it.  See what people say.
[06:18] <somerville32> Is the procedure that we wait until the last minute to upload the docs or would it be ok if I uploaded a snap-shot for Xubuntu?
[06:29] <nixternal> snapshots
[06:29] <nixternal> that way there translations can start
[06:29] <nixternal> although, I am upset with the current status of kubuntu-docs translations
[06:30] <somerville32> Do I need the entire repo to build
[06:30] <somerville32> I just grabed trunk/xubuntu/
[06:30] <somerville32> Or does Xubuntu still not build at all?
[06:31] <nixternal> hrmm, Xubuntu needs an updated makefile...reason I haven't tweaked it is because the xubuntu/ directory is loaded with all kinds of stuff and I don't know what needs to be built and what doesn't need to be built
[06:31] <nixternal> someone needs to do some spring cleaning on that directory
[06:34] <j1mc> yes, we need to so spring cleaning on that directory.
[06:34] <somerville32> I think I need to get my svn passwd reset
[06:34] <j1mc> nixternal: ^^
[06:35] <j1mc> should i just email the doc list about what we want removed?
[06:35] <nixternal> j1mc: are you comfortable with knowing your way around svn yet?
[06:35] <somerville32> nixternal, What is the status of the bzr migration?
[06:35] <nixternal> like removing directories/files, exporting, and other stuff
[06:35] <nixternal> I have no idea on bzr
[06:35] <nixternal> I tend to hide from it :)
[06:36] <j1mc> nixternal: not really.  i haven't done much more than svn co and svn diff
[06:36] <j1mc> if i know the commands, i can of course enter them, though.
[06:36] <somerville32> svn help
[06:36] <nixternal> j1mc: see if you can get access to svn so you can break it, and then fix it...although it doesn't really happen...just need to know how to really move around files/directories w/o doubling efforts and breaking branches
[06:36] <nixternal> very easy though
[06:37] <j1mc> well, i'm up for membership on tuesday.
[06:37] <somerville32> basically, svn <unix fs cmd>
[06:37] <j1mc> somerville32: thx.
[06:37] <nixternal> svn rm, svn mv, svn export (this is what some of us use when exporting our branches to build a package)
[06:37] <j1mc> i'm on a windows box now, though.
[06:37] <nixternal> don't ever cuss i this channel again
[06:37] <j1mc> tunneling through to my home server, which is running ubuntu :)
[06:37] <nixternal> s/i/in
[06:38] <nixternal> OK, I am getting ready to head home...tty later
[06:38] <j1mc> nixternal: would i do an 'svn rm foldername' and then do an svn diff on the whole trunk of xubuntu?
[06:38] <j1mc> to show that i had removed a folder?
[06:39] <nixternal> just give me a list of stuff to remove
[06:39] <j1mc> ok
[06:39] <j1mc> thanks.
[06:39] <nixternal> because a diff with rm'ing a dir or file can get very big very quick
[06:39] <j1mc> yeah
[06:39] <nixternal> I should setup SVN on my server and hook you up with an account so you can get comfortable messing with stuff
[06:40] <nixternal> that is all you need truthfully...you are getting the docbook/xml stuff and you are obviously making sure that your patches all validate
[06:40] <nixternal> anywho, I need to shutdown here and run to my truck which is like 2 miles away from this classromm :)
[06:41] <somerville32> If you install svn, you can easily setup an svn repo on your computer
[06:44] <j1mc> nixternal: somerville32 i can just set up svn on my server at home.  thanks for the suggestion.
[06:58] <j1mc> somerville32: heh.  i just checked out the most recent version of the docs via my home server.
[06:58] <j1mc> i could've done that a long time ago, and been able to work on docs from wherever i was, using whatever OS i was on, as long as i had access to ssh into my server.
[06:58] <j1mc> *face palm*
[06:58] <CIA-33> Ubuntu Documentation: sbalneav * r4306 edubuntu/handbook/C/server.xml: Move more handbook stuff to topic, corrections and additions
[07:43] <Lhademmor> Hey people. Is the WikiTeam still active?
[07:49] <Lhademmor> guess not...
[07:51] <somerville32> lol
[07:51] <somerville32> It is!
[07:51] <somerville32> It lives! :)
[07:51] <somerville32> You can make it better too
[07:53] <Lhademmor> Cool. I'll see what I can import...
[07:53] <Lhademmor> Is the gwos.org thing down?
[07:56] <Lhademmor> Damn, gtg
[08:37] <nixternal> I wish he didn't think we ran gwos