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mjg59kylem: Yeah, -rc4 works as well as alsa hg does01:43
kylemgood. ok.01:45
kylemshould have a fix for that this week.01:45
mjg59Sweet, thanks01:46
mjg59Oh, yeah, the applesmc driver seems to have gone missing at some point01:46
mjg59And I'll try to sort out the uvc/isight issue01:46
kylemthanks.01:46
kylemappreciate your testing.01:46
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mjg59uvcvideo patch is... awkward02:30
mjg59How about we just jam in an isight driver?02:30
mjg59It'll be a damn sight easier02:31
kylemhmm? why?02:31
mjg59The patch is against an older version of the driver02:31
kylemarf :(02:31
mjg59And there's been enough internal refactoring that I really don't want to bodge it02:31
mjg59Especially since I have no uvc hardware to check against02:31
mjg59kylem: How are the lum configs generated?02:35
mjg59kylem: Ok, got it other than that02:47
mjg59Oh, applesmc is actually in the kernel now02:56
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clevertrying to track down a bug in my kernel modules for a card driver02:57
cleveratm im going thru the current kernels(over 5) and seeing where the problem started02:57
cleverthere03:02
cleverreproduced it in every installed kernel(including the oldest apt-get will give)03:03
clevercant test any farther back without messing with sources.list or building from source03:03
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cleverinstalling a 6.06 kernel on 7.0403:22
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bullgard4!seen mjg5906:03
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mjg59bullgard4: Hi06:36
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EndlerHas libata pata_hpt37x been patched in gutsy yet to it initializes the controller properly?07:32
bullgard4mjg59: Resuming from powersave -U does not resume sound on my Ubuntu 7.04 using kernel 2.6.20-16-generic. Gnome menu System > Preferences > Audio tests all do not produce any sound. The linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org seems to discuss kernel version 2.6.22 and higher problems. Where to turn to discuss my problem?07:44
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EndlerThis seems to be a read only room :)07:54
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Chorushow do I submit a bug report when I get different errormessages all the time?12:19
BenCChorus: is it an oops, or just an error message from the kernel?12:34
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Chorusmostly "kernel null pointer" or "invalid opcode"12:41
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BenCChorus: invalid opcode sounds like a userspace program issue01:04
BenCkernel null pointer is an oops, and the backtrace needs to be captured with that for a bug report01:05
BenCif you get a spew of kernel messages (multiple oopses, and irrelevant other messages), only the initial msg/oops is important01:06
BenCthe rest are likely corruption resulting from the first oops01:06
Chorusokay01:14
ChorusI collect a few of them01:14
ChorusI know that the problem is in the highmen-driver btw01:14
BenChighmem?01:20
ChorusCONFIG_HIGHMEM01:22
KeybukBenC: how awake are you feeling?01:24
Keybukawake enough to discuss /sys/class/usb vs. /sys/class/usb_device? :p01:24
mjg59bullgard4: I've no idea how powersave works, I'm afraid02:10
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bullgard4mjg59: So powersave is a project independent from the main Debian/Ubuntu ACPI developments? How can I differentiate between the two?02:34
mjg59bullgard4: I believe kubuntu might use it, but I don't know the details. It's certainly not used in ubuntu.02:42
bullgard4Ok, thank you.02:43
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JanDM_hi, since alsa 1.0.14 I have a problem with my sound card. So I asked on alsa-devel, and they created a patch, but this patch is not included in ubuntus current alsa version, so i have to compile alsa myself with every kernel update. Would it be possible to include this patch in Gutsy?03:05
JanDM_it's a very small patch, written by an alsa developer03:05
zulJanDM_: open up a lp bug report for it and it will get a look at03:05
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JanDM_zul, thanks, I will try it there03:06
zulhey fabbione 03:07
fabbionehi03:07
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dokofabbione, BenC: currently have this soft lock / kernel hang again, it's interesting that it always is the very same process, dpkg-architecture ...03:13
fabbionedoko: we have seen this on debian buildd too. Davem is looking into it03:13
fabbionedoko: also for kernel sparc now it?s pkl the winner :P03:13
dokook, then. on current kernel. will reboot then to be able to use the machine03:14
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johanbrHi. Is there a place to get the Gutsy kernel source as vanilla 2.6.22 + broken-out patches? I think one of the Gutsy ACPI patches breaks suspend for me.04:40
mjg59johanbr: Nope04:41
johanbrOh. So I have to mess with git? I was hoping to avoid that. :)04:42
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kylemjohanbr, you can do it pretty easily04:44
kylemgit log v2.6.22..HEAD -- ${suspicious paths} to see relevant changes04:44
kylemthings should revert cleanly if you do a git revert ${sha1} once you find a commit you think might have broken it.04:45
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johanbrkylem: Great, thank you. And ${suspicious paths} is, say, drivers/acpi ?04:47
kylemyeah.04:47
johanbrI'll give that a go. Thanks again.04:48
kylemnp.04:48
kylemfeel free to prod people here if you have some troubles.04:48
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arno-thi all. I just ran git to get the sources for feisty. should I put them to /usr/src/ or can I compile in a local dir?04:59
mjg59arno-t: Local directory makes more sense05:00
arno-tokay thanks. can I just run make? I tried first to customize with make xconfig then make and so on, but I didn't end up with a booting kernel...05:09
zulBenC: ping http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelBugTriage (alot of good pointers there for debugging)05:21
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dholbachhello06:16
dholbachcan somebody please take a look at bug 114793? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-wlan-ng/+bug/114793)06:16
mjg59dholbach: We shouldn't be building the modules06:19
mjg59They're in the kernel06:20
mjg59Just bodge the build system so it skips them and produces the userland stuff06:20
dholbachok - can you follow up on the bug report? - I don't know much about that to be honest06:20
dholbachkylem: sorry for badgering you, but can you take a look at bug 57755?06:21
kylemit looks fine.06:29
dholbachBenC: I'll retarget bug 124855 for 'later' if you don't mind (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/124855)06:29
dholbachmjg59: what shall we do about  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/laptop-mode-tools/+bug/127273 ?06:31
mjg59Still considering it06:32
mjg59I still lean towards ripping it out entirely06:32
mjg59But that makes for an awkward migration path06:33
dholbachhm - can you let the patch author know?06:33
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dholbachdoes a fix of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/82343 in feisty look likely? if not we should reject it06:41
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zulrtg: ping07:16
rtgzul: png07:16
zulrtg: why didnt the xen bits get pulled in?07:17
rtgzul: I emailed BenC about them. Its his area of expertise.07:17
zulok07:17
BenCrtg: feel free to just pull it in and try a custom-binary-xen build07:18
zulit builds as of yesterday and works fine07:18
rtgBenC: in a bit then. I've gotta run some errands.07:19
BenCrtg: ok07:19
rtgzul: I have not built the xen stuff. How do you do it?07:24
kylemfakeroot debian/rules custom-binary-xen07:27
rtgkylem: Thanks. Almost had it figured out.07:28
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bdmurrayBenC: ping07:48
BenCbdmurray: yeah07:48
bdmurrayI was looking at bug 133823 and I wanted to figure out if it was fixed in Gutsy but don't understand the relationship between devices and kernel modules getting autoloaded.07:51
BenCbdmurray: checking it...07:54
bdmurrayBenC: Okay, thanks.  I'm more curious about the generality than the specific bug though.07:55
BenCbdmurray: most likely a quirk of the "p54 drivers are a mess" issue07:56
BenCthings are a lot cleaner in gutsy07:56
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