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williammandaanyother ideas?01:44
Davieywilliammanda: my native resolution is "1360x768" and it just works on mine01:47
Davieywanna see my xorg.conf?01:47
williammandatell me how you did it and or what you are using01:47
Davieyhmm.. did it yonks ago01:47
DavieyJust trial 'n error IIRC01:48
williammandawhat is IIRC?01:48
Davieyif i remember correctly01:48
williammandasince useEDID isn't working....I guess I'll need to use modeline?01:49
DavieyThat's using nvidia non-free driver01:51
williammandayour not using the restricted driver?01:53
Davieyam i not?01:54
williammandaoh i see you are using the restricted driver01:54
DavieyI don't know tbh.. I don't use the box for anything other than myth now01:54
Davieyso don't no the insides too well01:54
Davieysorry.. good luck tho01:55
DavieyLet me know how you get on01:55
Davieynight night01:55
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monolithThis might be a little offtopic. But how much lag does a TV capture card produce? I mean. Would i still be able to plug say a Wii or other games console and still be able to play it on my PC?02:45
CBiLLyou mean bypassing mythtv?02:51
CBiLLit gonna lag no matter what if it going thur mythtv because it being written to the hhd before out to monitor or tv02:51
monolithNo, not being written to the HDD first. Just viewing it stright though. Bypassing the recording like you say. Would that cause so much lag as to make it unplayable?02:52
CBiLLnever tried02:53
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Davieysuperm1: ping03:38
superm1 hey03:40
DavieyHave scripted it03:43
Davieycurrently only gutsy03:43
Davieyand haven't implement variables03:43
Davieybut it works03:43
superm1only gutsy?03:46
superm1why is that?03:46
Davieyjust haven't made it work with both yet03:49
superm1interesting way to do things03:56
superm1so you go through and delete the gutsy release03:56
Davieyand re-create it03:56
superm1i like the style03:56
superm1but it needs to be cleaned up variable wise03:56
DavieyIt's kinda rought atm03:56
superm1mind if i change a few things03:56
superm1and repastebin it?03:56
DavieyCan you use variables within cat xyz <EOF etc  $VARIABLE?03:57
superm1it'd be nice too if you could create a mirrors.list03:57
superm1and clean.sh03:57
Davieyclean.sh is auto03:57
superm1that's what i'm gonna show you03:57
superm1its made automatically?03:57
Davieyapt-mirror does it03:57
superm1can you pastebin the mirrors.list too then03:57
Davieybut it's not chmod +x, so you need to use sh /foo/clean.sh03:58
Davieysorry, apt-mirror creates clean.sh03:58
cornellI've just upgraded to 0.20.2, run mythtv-setup and added SchedulesDirect as a source, and connected it to the one input.  Upon exiting, it asks if I want to run mythfilldatabase.  I said yes, and it starts downloading from zap2it, successfully.  It continues and starts hitting schedulesdirect.03:58
Davieymy current mirror.list = http://paste.stgraber.org/316703:58
cornellI'm getting 401 unauthorized, followed by 200 ok, and some data.03:59
cornellSeem right?03:59
superm1okay give me ~10 min03:59
superm1and you'll see :)03:59
cornellAnd I assume that sometime I can just delete zap2it.03:59
Davieysuperm1: I need to go to bed . is 3:00am03:59
superm1oh man Daviey :)03:59
superm1well nice job with all of this today03:59
Davieyjust got up as daughter woke up03:59
superm1you've done great03:59
superm1i'll show you tomorrow03:59
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Davieyemail / pm a pastebin03:59
cornellNight-night Daviey04:00
Davieyso i can see it before you get up04:00
superm1cornell, that sounds about right04:00
superm1you should have just renamed the zap2it source04:00
cornellk, thanks superm1...  now you tell me ;-)04:00
superm1well i thought it was implied :)04:01
cornellShould I delete the SD, and rework zap2it?04:01
cornellOr... rework zap2it and then delete the old SD ;-)04:01
cornellWell... TTFN, Talk to y'all later.04:07
superm1oh ok04:08
superm1sorry stepped out for a few04:08
ubotuNew bug: #134726 in mythtv (multiverse) "MythTV 0.20.2 SRU " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13472604:20
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tgm4883superm1, 200x200 should be great04:55
superm1Daviey, okay i commited the new script to the mythbuntu-weekly-build branch04:57
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superm1tgm4883_laptop, why?05:39
superm1tgm4883, ?05:57
CBiLLhow alpha4 coming along?05:58
superm1CBiLL, pretty good05:58
superm1generated isos a few hours ago05:58
superm1and testing looks good on them thus far05:58
CBiLLwant another beta tester? like right now 8-)05:58
superm1well pushing them out is another story05:58
superm1my bandwidth here is pretty bad05:58
superm1probably tomorrow i'll push them somewhere though05:59
CBiLLah ok05:59
superm1or generate them somewhere05:59
superm1other than here05:59
CBiLLok cool was hoping to try it soon05:59
superm1very soon hopefully :)06:00
bdmurraysuperm1: Is it just me or is keyboard input strange sometimes in mythfrontend and mythtv-setup?06:14
superm1bdmurray, strange in what way?06:14
bdmurrayTabbing doesn't always work the way I'd expect.06:15
superm1oh strange like unintuitive06:15
superm1yes in some plugins06:15
superm1i completely agree06:15
bdmurrayBut right now on Gutsy in the mythfrontend setup I can't enter anything.06:15
superm1multiple monitors?06:16
bdmurrayNo, on my laptop I am just trying to set it up as a frontend only06:16
bdmurrayI can choose the language06:16
bdmurraythen tab into Host name: but can't do anything06:16
superm1tab brings up a virtual keyboard in some cases i think06:16
superm1try hitting escape06:16
bdmurraystill nothing - I can alt+tab out of mythfrontend but can't enter characters or change the field value06:18
superm1well you can always set that info up in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt via dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common like your supposed to :)06:18
bdmurrayThat's crazy talk!06:20
bdmurrayI was reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Frontend_Desktop_O06:20
bdmurrayWhich says "After logging back in, start the frontend again."06:21
superm1i'm surprised :)06:21
superm1someone must have modified that at some point06:21
bdmurraywell, moving on should a gutsy frontend work with a feisty backend?06:28
superm1as long as both are 0.20.206:28
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foxbuntuwow...a MythbuntuGuest ...is a real one, or just someone playing with the website again?06:47
superm1foxbuntu, there has been a lot of them actually06:54
superm1seems as though it was a very good idea to implement06:54
foxbuntusuperm1, nice...sounds good06:54
superm1foxbuntu, it appears the usplash is broken somehow or another.06:54
superm1i'm trying to regenerate it06:54
superm1but its to the the point that it doesnt show at all in my VMs06:55
superm1other than that things are ready to go06:55
superm1so if you want to sneak in a GTK theme or two........06:55
foxbuntusuperm1, that blows...that usplash is a pain06:55
foxbuntuI think I will shoot for Pub 1.006:56
foxbuntuto gloss it up06:56
foxbuntuwhich is Oct now right?06:56
foxbuntuisn't the Mythbuntu offical full release going to be same as Gutsy?06:57
superm1where did you get 1.0 from?06:57
foxbuntu1st Mythbuntu public release06:57
superm1i don't recall ever calling it that06:57
superm1its going to be 7.1006:57
foxbuntuwell I just did06:57
superm1following the gutsy version scheme06:58
foxbuntuthats the ubuntu version tho06:58
foxbuntuwe are the power of.... "MythBuntu"06:58
superm1and this is ubuntu - you can convert mythbuntu -> ubuntu or ubuntu -> mythbuntu06:58
superm1i dont want to be a spinoff that does its own thing, i'd prefer to stay true to the distro and be friendly to it06:58
foxbuntuthat would be the transitive property of Mythbuntufication yes06:59
foxbuntuthats a great word..06:59
superm1the theme needs to be fixed way before that07:00
foxbuntuI knows07:00
superm1depending how well this alpha turns out, we are either going to alpha 5 or beta next release07:00
foxbuntuoh NO!07:00
foxbuntunot "BETA"07:00
foxbuntuwork is getting to me07:00
superm1well you know what i hear calms nerves07:01
superm1GTK Themes.....07:01
foxbuntureally..somehow I seem to differ in opinion there07:01
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, i called someone a filthy pirate after they pretty much said they illegally downloaded movies07:02
foxbuntuGTK = Giant Thundering-Rousembue Kick07:02
superm1tgm4883_laptop, and you got a warning for that?07:03
superm1that's pretty ridiculous07:03
superm1by forum admins?07:03
tgm4883_laptoppretty ridiculous07:03
tgm4883_laptopits not like they baned me though07:03
foxbuntuI would warn tgm4883_laptop too..but that juse because he is tgm4883_laptop07:03
superm1i hate that the 0.20.2 release thread has turned into "put my favorite problem here, and maybe i'll get it answered"07:03
superm1too many unrelated posts in it07:04
foxbuntusuperm1, thats what digg is for07:04
superm1foxbuntu, no i was looking for input to test the -proposed version in feisty07:04
superm1not for everyone's opinion about everything07:05
foxbuntuor appently the strange urge to assign strange wishlist requests to foxbuntu via the mailing list07:05
superm1like what?07:05
tgm4883_laptopi replied and asked if it was because I called him filthy or because I called him a pirate or both.  I want to know in case someone says "I just broke into my neighbors house and stole his tv".  I dont want to get warned for calling them a thief07:05
foxbuntulike the Y button and C button's in lirc gen07:05
superm1isn't that the only one?07:05
foxbuntuor GTK THEMES07:06
foxbuntuwait...I picked that one awhile back07:07
superm1foxbuntu, you want to see all the bugs i'm on?07:07
foxbuntuwell...you are superm1 for a reason...I on the other hand have the nickname slacker07:08
tgm4883_laptopaparently filthy pirate an inappropriate comment07:08
foxbuntu...and besides...damn it I have this naggin pain in the ass about doing all this extra work07:08
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foxbuntusuperm1, did you hear that TorrentSpy will no longer allow U.S. access to their website?07:09
superm1foxbuntu, thats a bit further offtopic than i'd prefer for this channel07:11
AlowishusWhen mythfrontend is auto-run from gdm as configured in Ubuntu, where can I find the frontend log file?  Or do I have to set an option somewhere to get it to log?07:11
Alowishus(how's that for topical? ;)07:12
foxbuntusuperm1, fine...I supposed I could help people...07:12
superm1Alowishus, it logs to ~/.xsession-errors right now07:12
superm1eventually want to set it up to make a proper log somwhere more sensible, but havent yet07:13
Alowishussuperm1: ah hah!  ok cool, that works for now07:13
Alowishusoh hm but .xsession-errors gets overwritten each time X starts huh07:14
superm1exactly why i'd prefer to make a more proper log at some point :)07:14
superm1you can modify the xsession startup script if you want temporarily to add a | tee ~/my_favorite_log.txt07:15
Alowishusah good ol' tee07:15
Alowishusnah no biggie, 98% of the time I'm just going to want to see what's going on underneath currently07:15
AlowishusI just ran Import DVD for the first time and it gave me a strange "encoder not runniing press any number key to try starting it" which I found odd07:15
Alowishus(though it worked)07:16
AlowishusI was just curious what was going on behind the scenes07:16
superm1yea that starts mtd07:16
superm1myth transcoding daemon07:16
Alowishuswhy doesn't myth just start it... what's the magic behind the number key?07:19
superm1well it can start multiple instances of it i think07:20
superm1and no use wasting memory if you dont need to :)07:20
Alowishusah true true07:20
Alowishusis mtd responsible for the transcoding of TV too?07:20
superm1na, that's mythtranscode07:21
superm1they use a common code base i think07:21
superm1but are two sep apps07:21
Alowishushey did your 20.2 builds with the extra SD patches make it to -proposed yet?07:24
superm1Alowishus, let me see07:25
AlowishusI saw earlier that you were having to go through some re-approval process07:25
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superm1archive admins need to re-ack them07:26
superm1looks like they haven't been acked yet07:26
superm1the process is quite annoying, and i can see why very few apps get a SRU done for htem07:26
superm1them even07:26
AlowishusI guess that's a good thing... stable is stable07:27
superm1the extra SD patches only affect very few people too07:29
superm1at least is my understanding07:29
Alowishuswell you had to go through the whole mess for 20.2 in the first place though, no?  I guess a subsequent minor patch to that shouldn't require running the entire gauntlet again...07:30
superm1you would think right?07:31
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Alowishusoh ok I see now... DVD transcoding runs as a daemon so you can go watch other things and then come back through the 10ft UI and see the status07:38
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Alowishusre superm108:02
superm1my wifi is really acting up tonight.08:02
Alowishussun spots :P08:02
superm1its dark outside....08:03
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superm1Daviey, revno 11 of the branch here: https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-weekly-build.  I just realized i forgot to commit earlier :)08:48
lagaweird FTBS in mythbuntu-artwork ;)09:48
superm1laga, yea i fixed it09:49
superm1it was a -fPIC09:49
superm1im surprised that people got CCed on that besides me09:49
lagano worries09:50
lagayou're up late ;)09:50
superm1well i was in bed but heard the laptop beeping09:50
superm1so i got back up09:50
superm1before i went to bed i tested a4 as much as i could09:51
superm1things look good on my end09:51
lagayou need to turn the speakers off and get some rest. sorry for making you get up09:51
superm1the funny thing is it was 2 rooms away09:51
superm1and i still heard it :)09:51
lagai just got up to check my emails, i'll go back to bed now09:51
lagayour geek senses were tingling09:52
superm1well i should leave another note for Daviey anyhow09:52
superm1if he can do an a4 build on uk.weekbuilds.mythbuntu.org09:52
superm1that'd probably be the easiest way to float the ISO around09:52
superm1either that or a torrent, but i think i'd make a poor starting seed09:52
lagai should try the build script again, too09:52
superm1the iso build script?09:52
lagahow much upload have you got?09:52
superm1let me make sure i commited my change to it ttoday09:53
superm1well at home 256kbits up09:53
superm1at school i can probably do much better09:53
superm1but not for a large part of the day09:53
laga256kbit/s.. that's enough ;)09:53
superm1not kb09:53
superm1kbit :)09:53
laga28kb/s IIRC09:54
superm1yea about09:54
superm1that's if i'm quite lucky though09:54
lagaah, cable09:54
superm1okay well if you want to try, its all set to use the new PPA and all09:54
superm1in the script09:54
superm1so it should just be a matter of NEW_DIRECTORY=blah/to/blah/blah sudo sh mythbuntu_install.sh09:55
superm1revno 13 is what i pushed up09:55
lagatrunk packages are 0.20.1-foo while official packages are 0.20.2-foo. can't i just switch trunk over to 0.20.99?09:55
superm1well didnt the trunk libversion number bump too?09:56
superm1or no09:56
superm1but i guess that makes sense09:56
superm1in case there are any subreleases between now and 0.2109:56
superm1you dont have to fight them09:56
lagabecause that's what it is essentially09:57
superm1good call09:57
superm1okay back to bed for me then09:57
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(tgm4883/#ubuntu-mythtv) right, so it is something inside one of the files?07:00
(superm1/#ubuntu-mythtv) beats me where the issue came from :)07:00
(tgm4883/#ubuntu-mythtv) me too07:00
(tgm4883/#ubuntu-mythtv) i'm looking to see if there is a command that will search all files in a dir for a string07:00
(superm1/#ubuntu-mythtv) strings07:01
(superm1/#ubuntu-mythtv) is the command07:01
(tgm4883/#ubuntu-mythtv) see, thats why your super, you know it all :)07:01
jamsgrep would do it as well07:01
superm1or even better, strings | grep liblib07:01
tgm4883grep was the one I saw first07:01
tgm4883i dont know if strings | grep liblib is doing anything07:04
tgm4883if it is, it's very low cpu usage07:04
superm1strings FILE | grep liblib07:04
superm1or grep "liblib" -R directory07:04
tgm4883this is the example i found first07:05
tgm4883grep -R /etc/* | less07:05
superm1yea same basic idea07:05
tgm4883i'll try again07:05
tgm4883but it didn't work last time07:05
superm1it might be happening at compile time07:05
superm1and that's why your not finding it07:05
superm1attaching a prefix somehow07:06
tgm4883could be07:06
superm1that's actually quite probable07:06
tgm4883so what I should do is compile it and send the output of the compiler to a file then search the file?07:06
tgm4883and hopefully that would work?07:06
superm1well you can grab the built binary from the ppa07:08
superm1and search it07:08
tgm4883right, but that wouldn't really show me where it was set in the source to do that would it?07:08
superm1well i guess not07:09
superm1you'll have to play around a bit though07:09
superm1i've gotta jet07:09
superm1i'll be back later07:09
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:09
tgm4883libmythstream is only in this one area07:10
erkaberkaIs mythbuntu supposed to be a dist that should be used for mythtv "only" boxes? cause if thats the case, shouldnt for example gdm be removed to make it faster to load and so on?07:12
tgm4883erkaberka, isn't gdm not installed?07:13
erkaberkahum. gdm is installed07:16
erkaberkaShouldnt gdm and other "unnecessary" stuff be removed if you are supposed to make a mythbox that starts up fast and so on07:17
tgm4883ideally, i believe that you are right, I think what happened is that it is lower on the list of things to do and was pushed back to gutsy +107:18
tgm4883i'm just basing that off of 1 blueprint i see though07:19
erkaberkaah okay. where can I see those blueprints?07:19
tgm4883all blueprints are here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/  the one i see related to this is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/start-fe-from-init07:20
erkaberkanice thank you!07:20
tgm4883we use launchpad for development, so bugs, blueprints, q&a, will all be there07:21
erkaberkaallright =)07:21
laganet outage at home :/07:22
tgm4883thats no fun07:22
tgm4883laga, where is the mythbuntu ppa?07:22
tgm4883erkaberka, thats not saying that it can't be in mythbuntu 7.10, but it's not likely07:23
lagalooked in the build sript?07:23
tgm4883ah just found it07:24
tgm4883laga, I thought you tested the mythstream package I built?07:25
lagai don't remmber, TBH07:25
erkaberkatgm4883: yep allright07:25
tgm4883laga, thats cool, i gotta find out why it's broke07:26
lagaid ont have my dev stuff, i'm at the gf's place07:26
lagalooks like my cable is still offline.07:26
rhpot1991heh, turns out my icons were working fine and I was just being overly paranoid07:26
erkaberkatgm4883: isnt there something thats called directfb or similiar? that would be kinda cool to have as an option maybe07:27
rhpot1991seems mkiconmap.pl is still busted though, even with the nightly build of xmltv07:27
tgm4883erkaberka, not sure07:28
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tgm4883rhpot1991, I thought mkiconmap.pl was depreciated07:28
tgm4883erkaberka, I don't know much about that, but you're welcome to submit a blueprint if you think mythbuntu needs something.  I just don't have the time right now07:29
rhpot1991it is my understanding it is for the svn trunk, but if your running ubuntu packages you can't use the new channel_icons.pl anyways07:30
erkaberkadelivery: deffered, means what? yeah I think i will after some more research =)07:30
rhpot1991my mkiconmap just constanly rejects zip codes, and google tells me that its generaly caused by xmltv being out of date07:31
tgm4883deffered, means at least next release07:32
erkaberkaallright, should be nice with pxe-booting in the future then :D07:34
tgm4883i can't find the problem anywhere07:36
tgm4883hopefully alpha 4 will show me the problem07:37
lagais alpha4 already available for download?07:43
tgm4883laga hasn't checked his email :)07:43
tgm4883we need to build it07:44
tgm4883superm1, sent us instructions to do that.  We need to build and test today07:44
lagai saw them07:44
lagai'm on 1mbit/s right now...07:44
tgm4883well i'm about to build and test, so we will see what happens07:45
lagai'd rather have a centralised build.. better for mirros anyways07:45
tgm4883well thats the benefit of checking the md5sum right?07:45
tgm4883you can download or build it yourself07:46
tgm4883and make sure its right07:46
lagaif i build it myself, i'm almost sure that the md5sum will differ07:46
tgm4883it would be nice if someone would answer my question on launchpad07:47
tgm4883im trying to find out what it takes for mythbuntu to be a distrobution instead of just a project07:48
tgm4883i think then the iso's would be built on launchpad, but im not exactly sure about everything07:48
lagadoes it matter where the isos are built?07:50
lagait can't be that hard to push up 400M07:50
tgm4883no, but i think there are other benefits of being a distrobution07:54
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tgm4883although, it would probably help with building other arch's, ie ppc07:57
tgm4883you can't build amd64 or ppc on a i386 can you?07:57
lagabuilding mythtv packages? no07:58
lagaassembling the iso? probably07:58
lagayou should be able to set up a cross compile environment07:58
lagadunno if it's worth the trouble07:58
tgm4883to do amd64 on an x86?07:59
lagayou can dso mips on i38607:59
lagajust need a cross compiler07:59
Davieylaga: I'm building now07:59
Davieyfor i38607:59
tgm4883Daviey, im also building for i386 right now07:59
tgm4883did superm1, put up his md5sum somewhere?07:59
Davieytgm4883: cool07:59
DavieyI'm building it on uk.cdimage.mythbuntu.org tho :)08:00
tgm4883im building it locally08:00
lagatgm4883: you can build the packages on a ppa08:00
lagai'm building for i386 now08:00
tgm4883yep, you can now08:00
lagawill take a while, though08:00
Davieylaga: we can build the ISO?08:01
Davieyon ppa?08:01
lagaDaviey: no08:01
lagai'm building it locally.08:01
lagagotta go, ttyl08:01
Davieyhmm.. what about liblame ;)08:01
tgm4883hmm, lets try this again08:02
tgm4883my first build failed08:02
tgm4883i think it's because the directories didn't exist08:02
Davieywhat directories?08:03
DavieyThat is a bug in the script.. it should mkdir them08:03
tgm4883where i want the iso to be built in08:03
tgm4883i didn't have /home/thomas/mythbuntu/iso/alpha4/08:04
DavieyNeed to make it so it warns.. but it shouldn't force a make incase you have a bad location imo08:04
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DavieySegmentation fault08:05
Davieydpkg: error processing sysklogd (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 13908:05
tgm4883failed again08:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:06
keescookye-haw: Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2007-08-30 07:35 and ended on 2007-08-30 07:36. Successful.08:11
keescookSD data loading confirmed08:11
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Barry253hi all08:16
Barry253need help with building svn for the first time - anyone want to help an SVN newbie?  :-)08:17
Barry253got 95% of the way...08:17
Davieytgm4883: apt-get install time08:20
ubotuNew bug: #134801 in mythplugins (multiverse) "Mythplugins 0.20.2 SRU " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13480108:20
tgm4883_laptopBarry253, have you looked in #mythtv-users08:21
Barry253tgm - i'm there now - but this is on feisty, so i thought it might be more applicable08:21
Davieysuperm1: ping08:22
Barry253if this room is only for mythbuntu, then i apologize08:22
tgm4883_laptopwell, it sounds as if it has more to do with mythtv than feisty.  Doesn't matter to me where you get help though, I can't help you with svn though08:22
Barry253i'm not sure, that's the thing08:22
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tgm4883_laptophave you asked in mythtv-users?  I would do that, as you're more likely to get help their as there are more users with a better idea of building svn I would think08:23
Barry253Daviey - thanks for the advice. i'm not a total newbie, and i'd like to upgrade to svn (and deal with all the stuff that comes with it)08:29
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DavieyBarry253: i would suggest #mythtv-users atm08:29
DavieyOr check the wiki08:29
DavieyWe are are a lttle busy at the moment trying to build the next mythbuntu release08:29
Barry253will do, thanks. and good luck w/mythbuntu, it's looking like a great project08:29
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lagaanother 30 minutes till the d/l is finished08:35
lagaBarry253: very soon, there'll be trunk builds fr feisty and gutsy08:35
lagabut not tonight08:35
lagayou can get the trunk packaging stuff from the mythbuntu project page in launchpad. however, i can't walk you trhpough building it. it's DVD time ;)08:36
Barry253cool, thanks08:36
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MythbuntuGuest66How do you login into the mysql database for the first time?08:38
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest66, what do you mean?  Where are you try.......08:40
tgm4883I guess he didn't want to stick around08:40
Davieytgm4883: how is the build going?08:43
tgm4883much better, although I wish I would have changed the repo to download from08:43
Davieynot working here..08:44
tgm4883what part?08:44
Davieywait 108:44
Davieyjust restarted it08:46
Davieyyou will see the errors08:46
tgm4883the errors at the top?08:46
tgm4883or i need to wait for it to error again08:47
Davieyi'll tell you when08:47
tgm4883I wonder if mine did that too?08:52
Davieyhalting now08:52
tgm4883is there a log file somewhere or do i need to manually specify that?08:52
Davieyi created that wih NEW_DIRECTORY=/home/mythbuntu/build  sudo sh mythbuntu_install.sh > ~/html/weeklybuilds/buildlog08:52
Davieybasically what would have been onscreen, into a txt file08:52
tgm4883yours downloaded a lot less than mine08:53
tgm4883are you building in a gutsy env?08:53
tgm4883with the gutsy debootstrap08:53
DavieyI'm using an apt-catcher rather than a proper repo08:53
Davieybut that shouldn't matter08:54
tgm4883i am building mine in a gutsy chroot, and I had to d/l 527 packages08:54
Davieytrying again08:55
Daviey-- that looks better08:57
DavieyI: Configuring tasksel...08:57
DavieyW: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.08:57
DavieyI: Configuring module-init-tools...08:57
DavieyW: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.08:57
DavieyW: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.08:57
Davieyneed to sort out --- module-init-tools;08:58
tgm4883f me08:59
tgm4883I just broke it08:59
tgm4883I was going to copy and paste where I was in the build08:59
tgm4883so not thinking, i hit ctrl-c09:00
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tgm4883my mythbuntu iso is only 53 MB09:00
Davieyit 'just worked' on pegasys - the old machine09:01
tgm4883well at least now I can tell it to go into a log09:02
tgm4883there goes 30 minutes of building09:02
Davieycan you make your log avaliable via www?09:02
Davieydo you have apache2/httpd installed?09:03
tgm4883probably not, I would need to open a firewall and set the log onto my fileserver09:03
tgm4883sec, let me check09:03
erkaberkatgm4883: in case you wanted to read some about directfb and mythtv: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV_in_Framebuffer09:04
erkaberkahttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythTV_in_Framebuffer that one is probably better though :P09:05
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batrixhello i'm having issues connecting to my backend server with the frontend on the same machine it says its  unable to connect and asks if the server is running which it is09:08
tgm4883batrix, what ip address are you specifying for your backend?09:08
batrixtgm4883, i'm not using localhost i'm using my ip my router assigned me09:09
tgm4883there is your problem.  You either need to specify, or change mysql to allow connections from other than localhost09:10
tgm4883is this on mythbuntu?09:10
batrixits just plain mythtv09:10
batrixi tried 127....09:10
tgm4883127.0.0.1 didn't work either?09:11
batrixsudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start09:13
batrixmythbackend already running, use restart instead.09:13
tgm4883do you have mythweb installed?09:13
Daviey- sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart09:14
batrixsays upgrade needing tables when i do that09:15
Davieysounds like you need to repair myth database09:17
batrixi forget what i need to run for that09:17
Daviey"MySQL database is corrupt"09:17
Daviey(not deffo that, but won;t hurt to try)09:18
batrixhmmm maybe its the permissions09:19
batrixhow do i set mythtv to default user/pass?09:21
batrixare you there man?09:26
batrixmy database is fine09:27
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lagaisn't "mythtv service" in ubiquity a bit misleading? what does that do?09:46
lagasuperm1: ubiquity in alpah4: even when no proprietary video driver is detected, i can still configure tv-out. is this intentional?09:48
Davieylaga: yours built okay?09:52
batrixhey daviey i'm doing the full install all over again09:53
Davieybatrix: of ubuntu+mythtv or mythbuntu09:57
batrixi fixed it :)10:00
batrixidk i think the setup was messed up somewhere10:01
batrixbut i did a complete removal of everything10:01
batrixwhat card are you using?10:01
batrixodd some of the channels have echos in the sounds and other channels aren't coming in10:02
lagaDaviey: well, it spit out an iso10:19
laga211122 extents written (412 MB)10:20
laga413M /home/remastersys/mythbuntu.iso10:20
lagaubiquity crashed10:20
Davieysounds about right10:20
lagai'm watching "abbel" right now... that movie is annoying me :/10:21
Davieykillall mythfrontend10:22
laganaw, it's on the dvd player10:22
Davieyoh..  that film sucks10:22
laga7.7/10 on IMDB, though10:22
Davieyyeah.. that's why i got it!10:22
lagaon a positive note: my main frontend at home not almost works like it should10:22
Davieybut it has much in common with donkeys10:23
lagatwinview did the trick..10:23
Davieywell.. why isn't my build script working?!10:23
lagai'm not a big fan of african incest10:23
lagawhat's the problem?10:23
lagaworky without your mirror?10:24
DavieyThe script craps out halfway10:25
lagas/worky/does it work/10:25
lagaW: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.10:25
lagado you have a gutsy debootstrap?10:28
tgm4883looks like it built for me10:30
tgm4883and took 17 minutes to build10:30
lagalooks like i don't have my launchpad password here10:31
lagaand FFS! people need to learn to quote emails properly10:31
tgm4883is there a md5sum to check my iso against?10:31
Davieydid install debootstrap, but it was v.small10:31
Davieylet me try again10:31
laga51b44731268ba6efa0ffb7b44a6709bf  mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso10:32
lagatgm4883: but why do you think that the md5sums will be the same?10:33
Daviey 49112 2007-08-21 14:04 debootstrap_1.0.3_all.deb10:33
Davieyinstalled ^10:33
tgm4883why would they not be?  Wouldn't it be a bit for bit match if it's correct?10:33
Davieytgm4883: something minor like 'local' being different may change the md510:34
lagatgm4883: no. different time stamps? updated packages?10:34
tgm4883otherwise, whats the point in everyone building the iso?10:34
lagatgm4883: it's easier to distribute it that way ;) i asusme there'll be master iso later on10:35
tgm4883easier to distribute?  supposedly it takes around 1 hour to build the iso (took me 17 minutes).  I can d/l the iso in 10 minutes10:35
tgm4883so it's not faster10:35
tgm4883Secondly, why would we test something that isn't the alpha4 RC?10:36
lagajust dont ask ;)10:37
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lagaok, my ubiquity crash logs are here: http://www.pastebin.ca/676170 http://www.pastebin.ca/676167 http://www.pastebin.ca/67616810:38
lagayou don't have to click10:38
lagait's jsut for my reference10:38
lagaeasier than writin it down, so i just ssh'ed to my irssi from the VM ;)10:38
Davieylaga: fancy sharing your buildlog10:38
lagaDaviey: my build log is not complete :/10:40
lagakonsole buffer was too small10:40
lagai can rebuild.10:41
lagaassuming the .debs are cached10:41
Davieyyeah.. you might go over your 1TB cap ;)10:41
lagamy 1TB cap is on my rented server10:44
lagathis is a 1mbit/s line.. and rather slow ;)10:44
Davieydon't worry if not cached..10:44
tgm4883Daviey, my buildlog is up at the address i pmed you if you want10:45
Davieytgm4883: cool10:45
tgm4883for some reason I can't write directly to it, but I can copy it over after im done10:45
Davieyyeah.. probably the apache2 user doesn't have NFS access10:46
lagaDaviey: it's not cached, i'm just downloading it again10:46
tgm4883so this one is from my successful build.  At least, I think it is successful10:46
lagathe script *should* cache, but that seems to be broken10:46
lagaah well, back to the movie..10:46
Davieylaga: don't worry - it prob won't show anything helpful10:47
tgm4883would this be the correct way to password mythweb http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-14.html#ss14.210:47
Davieytgm4883: Doesn't seem to help :(10:47
DavieyI'm using an apt-catcher; but that shouldn't make a difference10:49
Davieyconfig of "module-init-tools" is the issue :(10:50
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DavieyHmm.. should it matter that i'm building on an xen(i686) kernel?11:11
lagai doubt it11:14
lagai can't believe that i wasted one hour of my life on this movie.11:14
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lagaDaviey: i'll pastebin the buildlog11:16
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Davieyit *must* be the apt-catcher causing the prob11:17
Davieywhere is superm1?11:18
lagaDaviey: sorry, wrong log11:19
DavieyWell i'm building it @ home now and it's working fine11:20
lagawhat's apt-catcher? some kind of apt procxy?11:22
DavieyBasically.. if i use the apt-catcher it doesn't come out of my bw allowance11:23
Davieyseems to work fine.. except one package11:23
lagaupload is saturated11:23
lagai need to gzip the buiold log11:23
Davieysuperm1 added the ability to use ppa as a 'backup' repo11:24
DavieyI wonder how i can do that with offical repo11:24
DavieyWith 99% coming from the apt-catcher?11:24
lagaah, you don't need the build log anymore i giess11:24
lagadunno :(11:25
lagahow much bw do you have?11:25
Davieylemme check11:25
DavieyI might up it to 50Gb11:26
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lagathat's not a lot11:29
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laganice, looks like a new 26mbit plan will be announced soon by my ISP11:29
lagahi superm111:29
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superm1hi laga11:29
superm1Daviey, i had other things to attend to all day, like courses :)11:29
Davieybah.. you need to drop out of uni/college11:30
Davieydedicate to mythbuntu11:30
superm1well give me some cash for it11:30
superm1and i'll be glad to11:30
Davieyokay.. give me your bank details11:30
Davieynot building on uk.week'11:31
superm1alright so how comes ISO gen?11:31
Davieyerm.. it's quit big11:31
Davieydo you want me to trim it?11:31
superm1yea like 4 megs or so?11:31
superm1that's normal if you use tee11:31
superm1woah um what mirro rdid you use to build this?11:31
lagasuperm1: ubqiuity failed on me. i can't file a bug till tomorrow, but you can look at the logs if you want to11:32
superm1it didnt debootstrap:11:32
Davieyapt-catcher + gb.ubuntu*11:32
superm1W: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.11:32
superm1I: Configuring module-init-tools...11:32
superm1W: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.11:32
superm1W: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.11:32
superm1W: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.11:32
superm1W: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.11:32
superm1I: Base system installed successfully.11:32
Davieysuperm1: gutsy debootstrap is installed11:32
Davieyfrom dpkg -i deboot*.deb11:32
superm1right, but off your mirror it didn't debootstrap right it looks like11:32
superm1because if you get any warnings there, it throws off the entire build11:33
superm1did you change locales or anything too?11:33
superm1that can also throw off items11:33
Davieyarg! ust built at home and it's 54M11:33
superm1it should come out to ~413mb11:34
Davieyoh - genisoimage: No space left on device. cannot fwrite 32768*111:34
superm1laga, ubiquity failed???11:34
superm1doing what?11:34
laga22:28 < laga> ok, my ubiquity crash logs are here: http://www.pastebin.ca/676170 http://www.pastebin.ca/676167 http://www.pastebin.ca/67616811:34
rambo3this is why i like mediaportal11:34
lagasuperm1: when it installed $stuff, after the question marathon11:34
superm1rambo3, mediaportal has to have a development cycle just like all projects, you just might not see it :)11:35
tgm4883superm1, in other news, I think* mine built correctly11:35
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superm1mine built fine.11:35
superm1its those UK folk.11:35
tgm4883you know what it is11:36
tgm4883exactly ^^^11:36
rambo3superm1, offcours i see it am testing RCs.11:36
Davieysuperm1: you probably mispelt something then11:36
superm1laga, what language did you set?11:36
lagasuperm1: german11:37
Davieyrambo3: tell us why < rambo3> this is why i like mediaportal11:37
superm1have you dont that before?11:37
lagasuperm1: don't remember, TBH11:37
superm1laga, okay let me try locally here myself in german and see what i come up with11:37
superm1tgm4883, on yours that you generated, everything working out ok?11:38
tgm4883installing now in vm11:39
lagasweet. looks like people using my ISP will be upgraded to 26mbit/s get to pay 4 less/month next month11:39
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rambo3Daviey, i wont troll but mediaportal is different league. No .py errors no it may work it may not work. 'I used mythtv about 2 years ago. I am just checking to see if there is progress.11:39
Davieylaga: upload speed?11:39
Davieyrambo3: why on earth would we get py errors?11:40
tgm4883superm1, is there a way to tell who reviewed mythstream?11:40
superm1tgm4883, who reviewed it?  Revu's old stuff got nuked11:40
lagaDaviey: 1mbit/s11:40
tgm4883I got an email.....let me forward to you11:41
superm1rambo3, you walked in during some testing between us before we're about to announce alpha411:41
superm1rambo3, so of course we may run into issues11:41
lagarambo3: just a quick FYI: mythbutnu is *alpha*. the stuff we're testing right now is not even alpha, it's the beta version of an alpha release. please troll elsewhere.11:41
tgm4883superm1, ygm11:41
superm1rambo3, i'm sure that mediaportal has similar development discussions11:41
Davieylaga: that's dissapointing..  mine is 768kib for 20mbit11:41
tgm4883its 2 emails, thats the whole convo11:42
lagacan someone please tell me how i am supposed to sign the code of conduct to be come an ubuntero when there are people like that?!11:42
Davieylaga: I see the CoC as11:42
Daviey'best effort' :)11:43
lagaDaviey: it's 768kbit/s upload and 16mbit/s download now. i guess they don't like giving too much upload due to p2p apps11:43
tgm4883superm1, god himself develops mediaportal and there are no flaws11:43
lagaah, mediaportal was abandoned 2000 years ago then ;)11:43
superm1rambo3, i dont mind someone coming in here to compare products, but if your going to compare us, please do so on a release11:44
tgm4883or should I shed a bad light on mediaportal?11:44
superm1guys lets not get into a heated argument in here over products ok :)11:44
tgm4883Just clean fun ;)11:44
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rambo3superm1, no problem. is it easy to conver mp skinns to mythtv11:45
lagarambo3: please try #mythtv-users11:45
superm1laga, no one warned it changes my keyboard locale by default when i choose german :)11:46
rambo3i was banned from #mythtv-users i ll check11:46
lagasuperm1: heh.11:46
tgm4883apparently rambo3 hasn't seen http://mantis.team-mediaportal.com/my_view_page.php11:46
lagai probably remember you then11:46
lagathe chess guy.11:47
tgm4883superm1, it appears to have installed correctly11:48
lagai know i'm being thin-skinned, but we need a closed developers room...11:48
Davieylaga: i think you might have a point11:48
Davieymaybe not closed11:48
Davieyjust -dev talk11:49
tgm4883I just saw a huge flaw in mediaportal11:49
superm1i didn't think we were that big yet that we needed that, but you may be correct11:49
tgm4883Under Requirements Software components11:49
tgm4883Operating System:11:49
tgm4883    * Windows XP SP2: With WindowsXP you are able to use MediaPortal with one DVB TVCard or multiple Analog TVCards.11:49
tgm4883    * Windows MCE 2005 RU2: With Windows MCE you are able to use MediaPortal with more than 1 DVB TV Card!11:49
Davieysuperm1: ie support requests in the middle of dev talk11:50
tgm4883Recommended System Requirements:11:50
tgm4883    * CPU: 2.0 Ghz or higher / 2.8 Ghz for analog software tv-cards11:50
tgm4883^^^ Seriously11:50
lagai don't even follow #mythtv-users anymore that closely11:50
lagai can't stand it anymore after 4 yours :)11:50
Davieylaga: did you get http auth working for mythweb?11:51
jamslaga-  lots of people feel that way11:51
Daviey(and into the package)?11:51
superm1tgm4883, i see the mail now11:52
superm1tgm4883, if you can reinstate those changelog entries11:52
lagajams: especially juski :>11:52
lagaDaviey: fixes or trunk?11:52
superm1and fix the problem that was encountered wtih the liblib, i'll reupload a new revision11:52
jamsi won' tsay anything else11:52
Davieylaga: either?11:52
DavieyJuski is a nice chap really11:53
DavieyI met him a few months ago11:53
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lagaDaviey: trunk gave me some trouble the other day, haven't tried fixes. my installer crashed ;)11:53
lagai'll install again11:54
superm1laga, i wish i knew what step it was really on right now as it progressed :)11:54
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superm1laga, okay looking at this, it might actually be a bug in kde-guidance11:55
superm1because that is where i inherited the xorgconfig.py11:55
superm1but i need to investigate a little closer11:55
lagai can try to reproduce it that'd help11:55
superm1well i just did :)11:56
Davieysuperm1: When you've done that - the build script, is it possible to use a BASE_MIRROR and and a BACKUP_MIRROR, where 99% of packages get downloaded from the BASE?11:56
superm1Daviey, you mean instead of BASE and SUPLEMENTAL?11:57
tgm4883superm1, other than I didn't run mythtv-setup, it looks to be working fine11:57
Davieywell if i use a particular 'mirror' it doesn't deduct from my bandwidth allocation11:57
tgm4883(except mythstream)11:57
Davieybut i think that's what's causing the issue11:58
superm1Daviey, once you have the packages downloaded, they should cache in /var/cache/apt/archives11:58
superm1i link to the filesystem in the script to look there11:58
Davieysuperm1: laga reckons the cache isn't working properly11:58
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tgm4883superm1, where did you say it was looking for liblibmythstream?12:01
Alowishusany idea what might cause schedule browsing on a remote frontend to be *ridiculously* slow?  like 30+ seconds for the guide to come up, and then 2 to 20 seconds for each press of the cursor to browse around on the grid??12:01
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DaveMorrissuperm1: are the backups been created on mythbuntu.org?12:02
DavieyDaveMorris: have you built amd64?12:03
tgm4883DaveMorris, the backups of mythbuntu.org are on a different server12:03
DavieyAlowishus: what theme?  Good network connection?12:03
superm1tgm4883, i saw it in .xsession-errors12:03
DavieyHow many channels?12:03
superm1DaveMorris, something actually went wrong with them12:03
superm1i need to talk to jumpkick12:04
DaveMorrisDaviey: I've not had the mail from superm1 with the instructions12:04
superm1he put a different process in place12:04
superm1DaveMorris, i sent a mail12:04
DavieyDaveMorris: doh!12:04
superm1to the ml12:04
DavieyDaveMorris: subscribe to the ML!12:04
DaveMorrisok, coz I noticed I'd not downloaded any backups so wasn't sure if they where bene created12:04
superm1i thought DaveMorris was subscribed12:04
DaveMorrisI was, with my mythbuntu address ;)12:04
AlowishusDaviey: GANT, but it seems to happen regardless of theme... local home network12:04
superm1of course12:04
superm1DaveMorris, well the mailling list is luckily logged12:05
DaveMorrislink for the lazy?12:05
superm1so see http://lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mythtv12:05
DavieyAlowishus: might be worth trying in #mythtv-users12:05
AlowishusDaviey: this was a working setup under an older Fedora-based install... the backend and frontend were re-done under Ubuntu and this problem has reared its head12:05
AlowishusDaviey: ok yeah I can try in there... might wait until I'm right there in front of it, but was trying to get a general idea of where to look...12:05
DavieyAlowishus: can i suggest you raise a bug on launchpad?12:06
DavieyI've never really heard of tat issue before12:06
AlowishusDaviey: yeah it seems strange12:06
lagaAlowishus: maybe the channel icons vanished and it's still trying to load them - that should show up in the logs12:06
Alowishuslaga: good thought, but have explicitly turned off channel icons12:06
AlowishusDaviey: not necessarily saying it's an Ubuntu problem - could just be an obscure configuration change that happened in the transition12:07
lagado you have a lot of channels? maybe it's a slow mysqld12:07
Alowishuslaga: no... ~70 of basic cable12:07
lagahum :::::(12:07
Alowishusyeah it's a stumper12:07
lagasorry, running out of ideas then12:07
lagai'm going to bed now12:07
Alowishusnite :)12:07
DavieyAlowishus: have you checked the logs?12:08
Davieystart mythfrontend from console12:08
Davieysee if it whinges12:08
AlowishusDaviey: yeah nothing in the logs12:08
williammandahey guys...got a question12:09
Alowishusoh and to counter the MySQLd question - MythWeb works just fine12:09
williammandai'm trying to get a vizio tv working with a nvidia 7300le video card via dvi to hdmi cable.....12:10
williammandaEDID isn't seeing all the hd resolutions....12:10
williammandaI tried using modeline & metamode but no luck...12:10
williammandathe tv has 1366*768 native res but EDID only allows 1280*72012:11
williammandaany ideas?12:11
DaveMorrisbuild is running12:12
tgm4883williammanda, not really any ideas, i think that is what I have mine running at and the tv shows it as 1366*768.  Let me ssh in and find out12:13
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Davieyif the MD5Sum is lucky nuff to be the same - 0f0980287c1823ba53527b6fac74ec93  mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso12:14
DaveMorrisare the mythbuntu mailing address gonna be back up and running soon? Do I have an account to upload the iso?12:14
williammandaHere are my xorg.conf & xorg log http://paste.stgraber.org/3208 http://paste.stgraber.org/320712:14
tgm4883williammanda,  Modes      "1280x768" "1024x768" in my xorg.conf12:14
superm1Daviey, i doubt they will be the same12:14
superm1that owuld be great if they were12:14
superm1but i doubt12:14
DaveMorrisWill Daviey give me an ssh account on the uk mirror ;)12:14
DavieyDaveMorris: Are you trustworth <grin>12:14
superm13a51989eab9ce4a8964471ccc4bbc25e  mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso12:15
DaveMorriswell you shared a room with me ;)12:15
superm1DaveMorris, have to ask foxbuntu if he ever gets his server up :)12:15
Davieyand you snoored all bloody night12:15
superm1that guy is taking ages on it12:15
DaveMorrisI was tired/drunk/slept like a baby12:15
superm1laga, i'm having a hard time tracking that down.  I can't find _setlocale anywhere in python2.512:19
superm1just setlocale12:19
DaveMorrishttp://mirror.cs.umn.edu is a slow mirror ;)12:20
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tgm4883i think that still needs to be changed, as its that mirror in mythbuntu iso12:20
superm1tgm4883, which?12:20
DaveMorris(23:27:36) DaveMorris: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu is a slow mirror ;)12:21
superm1i just lost my web access12:21
superm1oh its fast for anyone on Internet2 :)12:21
superm1the resultant install mirror ends up as a locale specific one12:21
DaveMorrisI'm on SuperJANET and it's only 350KB/s12:21
tgm4883I need to get me some Internet2.  Can I pick that up at walmart?12:22
superm1on campus i get 1-2mb/s when downloading on it12:22
superm1on campus of course12:22
tgm4883so we all need to enroll then12:22
superm1actually that is something else that needs to be looked at12:22
superm1i can't figure out why it still looks for the server when the packages are on the disk12:22
superm1i swear it was installing from on the disk at some poit12:23
DaveMorrishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperJANET is my network, now why can we peer with Internet212:23
DaveMorrisbtw I'm getting perl locale warnings with the build superm112:24
superm1DaveMorris, it must be from the machine you build on12:24
DavieyDaveMorris: that should be fine12:24
DavieyDefault to C12:24
superm1having a different locale set during build12:24
superm1i'm not sure why though12:24
superm1tgm4883, you didnt get those i'm sure?12:24
Davieyit's been a bug with perl since breezy12:25
DaveMorrisI really should set up my hosts file to redirect cs.umn to Daviey's mirror12:26
superm1tgm4883's log is clean12:26
superm1just looked at it12:26
DavieyIsn't that more work than needed?12:27
superm1so its non us people only :)12:27
Davieydavemorris, you have an account12:27
williammandawhen will 20.2 be done?12:29
superm1williammanda, it's released to gutsy, feisty-proposed, edgy-proposed12:29
williammandaso it is ok to upgrade now without issues or is it still testing?12:30
superm1williammanda, it's technically still testing since its in -proposed, but you should be able to upgrade without too much concern12:32
superm1laga, i dont think i can track this translation issue down easily.  i say we advertise it as a known issue12:32
superm1and defer sorting it out12:32
tgm4883superm1, im not getting that in my .xsessions-errors file12:35
tgm4883i get this http://pastebin.ca/67629412:36
cornellSo... setting up source to input (in myth) I hit the "Fetch channels..." no result... presumably... busy?  Keep trying?12:36
superm1tgm4883, you need to launch myth and choose the plugin12:37
tgm4883i did12:37
superm1er k12:37
superm1well then look in the terminal12:37
superm1you launched it from12:37
tgm4883huh.  yep definetly wrong, although i dont know where12:41
tgm4883simply having a liblibmythstream.so doesn't work either12:41
superm1it wouldn't hurt to grab http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue 's build12:41
superm1and double check with that12:41
superm1to make sure it's not PPA's fault12:41
superm1i've had a few weird things happen with PPA12:42
cornellI've lost my sound, again.  I didn't have it when I'd configured my two capture cards, but I got it back when I deleted the one and just had my PVR-350.  I watched TV last evening, and recordings, no problem.  Come home this evening, no sound.  I don't even know where to start.12:54
cornellWell,  I checked that the 350 was still defined as my capture card.12:54
cornellWhen I bring up alsa mixer, it defaults to the other card. Does that mean anything?12:55
DaveMorriswell the iso built but it didn't save, as the script didn't check to make sure the path to save it to existed12:57
superm1DaveMorris, then its in /tmp/mythbuntu_iso12:57
superm1under home/ISOTMP i believe12:57
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DaveMorriswell if I hadn't restarted it ;)12:58
Davieysuperm1: ahh DONT_CLEAN_SYSTEM="no"12:58
superm1Daviey, be careful with that12:58
superm1that's not what cache's packages12:59
superm1caching is automatic12:59
superm1the DONT_CLEAN_SYSTEM can sometimes break builds12:59
superm1that's why its not on by default12:59
DaveMorrissuperm1: run it through an apt-cacher12:59
DavieyDaveMorris: apt-catcher didn't work for me01:00
DaveMorrisI run it on a xen image for my network01:01
Davieyyeah.. i couldn't get it to build on my xen01:01
DaveMorrisbuild?  it's in the repo's :P01:02
Davieyor rather; apt-catcher didn't work when getting all the packages01:02
Davieytesting non-apt-catcher now01:02
DaveMorrisI've had that problem once, and I told it to go direct instead01:03
DaveMorristhe 2nd iso build is almost done :)01:03
DavieyDaveMorris: how?01:03
DaveMorriswhat a difference a fast mirror makes01:03
tgm4883I still can't find the issue, the gutsy build doesn't work either (for mythstream)01:08
tgm4883the iso build was pretty quick though.  Around 17 minutes01:08
tgm4883biab, i have to go mail something01:09
superm117 minutes. man my laptop must be slow.01:10
superm1its an hour here at home01:10
superm130-40 min on campus01:10
DaveMorrisDaviey: they are uploaded into my ~/ now01:10
DaveMorris6.1MB/s upload speed, nice01:11
Davieyffs.. the problem isn't with the apt-cacher01:11
DavieyDaveMorris: v. nice01:12
DavieyI have no idea wh i can't build this!01:12
Davieygutsy debootstrap is installed01:12
cornellCould anybody point me to a reference or something for how/what the configuration should be for a PVR-350?  Should I be working in mythtv-setup?01:13

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