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mvo | bryce: do you mind if I upload a new displayconfig-gtk soonish | 12:54 |
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bryce | mvo, please do! | 12:54 |
bryce | mvo, yes I just asked glatzor about if we could do a new release yesterday | 12:54 |
bryce | I've done an initial 'does it apply' test for all the fixes proposed for backporting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Fixes_to_Backport | 01:03 |
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ubotu | New bug: #96943 in wine (universe) "wine doesn't work because of 3D driver (VIA) (dup-of: 43154)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96943 | 03:41 |
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ubotu | New bug: #135738 in xorg (main) "DisplaySize setting not honored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135738 | 05:00 |
tepsipakki | yay, pixman got accepted | 05:54 |
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bryce | http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/08/29/ubuntu-xorg-maintainer-demonstrates-bulletproof-x | 09:59 |
bryce | tepsipakki: btw I've rolled a new xorg-server including the portion of patches that applied cleanly | 10:00 |
tepsipakki | bryce: sweet, do you need a sponsor?-) | 10:01 |
bryce | heh, need a tester first ;-) | 10:02 |
tepsipakki | bah :) | 10:10 |
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=== Topic (#ubuntu-x): set by bryce at Fri May 18 23:35:30 2007 | ||
tormod | bryce, btw can you add the verbosity patch from bug fdo 10238? | 07:07 |
bryce | tormod, on brief look it looks sane enough. What's it needed for specifically? | 07:09 |
tormod | bryce, to see in the log if/why edid fails | 07:10 |
bryce | ok | 07:11 |
bryce | yes I'll include it with the next set of patches. I've added this to my todo list | 07:11 |
tormod | bryce, maybe don't use the whole patch, but the pieces he proposes for inclusion. | 07:11 |
bryce | ok I'll review it in detail | 07:14 |
tormod | bryce: running -12ubuntu3feisty now. vesa does not segfault anylonger. Still failed with the old xorg.conf, then removed sync ranges and then it started, although in wrong mode :) | 08:09 |
bryce | interesting! | 08:09 |
tepsipakki | wow | 08:14 |
tormod | is there any easy way to force vesa without having a xorg.conf? | 08:15 |
tepsipakki | it doesn't use that? | 08:16 |
bryce | tepsipakki: well the x autodetect would kick in if the xorg.conf is missing | 08:16 |
bryce | tormod, I don't know of a method to force it to use vesa other than with an xorg.conf | 08:17 |
tormod | this is a X700, which usually would use ati. I force vesa to reproduce the X1?00 problems. | 08:17 |
tepsipakki | bryce: right, so it should use vesa | 08:17 |
tepsipakki | ahh | 08:17 |
tormod | I'll just strip my xorg.conf, needs Device and a minimal Screen section. | 08:18 |
tepsipakki | btw, I cleaned up the -intel bugreports a bit yesterday.. some 10+ bugs closed | 08:19 |
tepsipakki | -ati deserves the same | 08:19 |
bryce | awesome :-) | 08:19 |
bryce | btw, I've been gathering changelog info for recent uploads at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgRecentChanges to help with triaging | 08:19 |
bryce | I'm planning once the xserver backports are done, and bulletproofx is turned on and working, to go through and do some major triaging | 08:20 |
tepsipakki | cool | 08:22 |
tormod | bummer - with a minimal xorg.conf it crashed again :( | 08:22 |
tepsipakki | btw, fedora has ati-6.7.192 | 08:22 |
tepsipakki | tormod: but possibly for another reason | 08:22 |
bryce | is fedora running it straight or do they include any patches? | 08:22 |
tepsipakki | straight | 08:23 |
bryce | interesting | 08:23 |
tormod | tepsipakki: looks the same in the log, but I'll do some gdb | 08:23 |
tepsipakki | releases are coming so quickly | 08:23 |
tepsipakki | hum, should bug 54650 be closed now? | 08:29 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 54650 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "GCC SSP breaks xorg-server" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54650 | 08:29 |
tepsipakki | since the current xserver doesn't disable ssp anymore | 08:29 |
bryce | tepsipakki: yeah sounds like | 08:29 |
bryce | tepsipakki: want me to close it or do you want to? | 08:29 |
tepsipakki | I can do it.. I'll mark the gcc part as invalid | 08:29 |
bryce | ok cool, thx | 08:29 |
tormod | should I rebuild vesa with the new xserver-xorg-dev ? | 08:30 |
tepsipakki | probably doesn't matter | 08:30 |
tormod | hmm gdb is funny again, doesn't say where in vesa it crashes. | 08:31 |
tormod | I mixed up the packages again, seems like my vesa is not debug build... | 08:35 |
tormod | why does some x packages make a -dbg package and some not? | 08:40 |
tormod | segfaults at the very same place :( | 08:42 |
tormod | actually good that it is at the same place at least :) | 08:42 |
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tormod | if someone wants to help out debugging (remotely?) I'll be back | 08:44 |
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tepsipakki | bryce: what do you think is sufficient time between a ping and marking the bug closed?-) | 08:52 |
bryce | bdmurray gives 30 days; I generally have been allowing 90 days | 08:52 |
tepsipakki | ok, I'll honour that | 08:52 |
bryce | sometimes I'll close after 30 days if it looks like the bug is extremely incomplete and I sense there's little chance of anything productive coming out of waiting | 08:53 |
bryce | whereas for bugs that at least some useful debuggable info exists, I'll wait additional time | 08:53 |
tepsipakki | yep, makes sense | 09:11 |
tormod | what's the best fd,o bug reference for that vesa problem? | 09:44 |
tormod | bug fdo 12105? | 09:45 |
tepsipakki | that's one, but I remember there being another one too (could be wrong) | 09:53 |
tormod | for the backported-1.4-to-1.3-to-feisty debs, can I get them hosted somewhere? if they get popular, they'll fill my 50MB/day quota, | 10:19 |
tormod | tepsipakki: (from #xorg-devel) yes I can put the fixed vesa up on XorgOnTheEdge. | 10:22 |
tepsipakki | cool | 10:22 |
bryce | tormod: certainly, I'd be happy to upload them to my people.ubuntu.com...Testing page if you'd like | 10:27 |
tepsipakki | bryce: I'll upload a new vesa shortly | 10:28 |
bryce | btw, I just put in for a discover-data change that will switch -i810 to -intel across the board by default | 10:28 |
tepsipakki | there's a oneliner for the fedora mode-heuristics patch, which should fix the crash | 10:28 |
tormod | bryce, you can find the new vesa for feisty in http://tormod.webhop.org/linux/bryce/ | 10:31 |
tormod | the backport xorg-server is uploading... | 10:32 |
tormod | I guess xserver-xorg-core{,-dbg} and -dev should be enough? | 10:33 |
bryce | tormod: excellent, yes that should probably suffice | 10:33 |
bryce | tormod: let me know when they're finished uploading and I'll mirror them. | 10:34 |
bryce | tormod: I can also put out a call for testers on the X Tester forum if you'd like | 10:34 |
tepsipakki | tormod: just to be sure, does this debdiff look identical to yours? http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/vesa.debdiff | 10:36 |
tormod | tepsipakki: yes they are the same. | 10:39 |
tepsipakki | cool, I'll upload now | 10:40 |
tormod | bryce: upload done, please get them. yes please call for testers. I'll update XorgOnTheEdge. | 10:41 |
bryce | ok great | 10:41 |
bryce | syncing... | 10:43 |
tormod | bryce: can you give me the url for my packages? | 10:45 |
bryce | sure, http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/xorg-server-backports-feisty/ | 10:46 |
bryce | (still syncing) | 10:46 |
bryce | tormod: finished syncing | 11:16 |
tormod | bryce: thanks I saw that a while ago :) the wiki is updated. did you post on the forums? | 11:17 |
bryce | working on a post now | 11:18 |
tepsipakki | I'm off to bed, tomorrow I'll attack the ati-bugs more, gnite | 11:22 |
bryce | tepsipakki: excellent | 11:23 |
bryce | tormod: posted - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3282357&posted=1#post3282357 | 11:23 |
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