[01:26] <FranciscoPadilla> Hi
[01:26] <cheeseboy> TheSheep you still there?
[01:27] <FranciscoPadilla> I just installed Xubuntu and I'm loving it. Just have a question. What package should I install to get a "volume control" like in Windows.
[01:28] <cheeseboy> FranciscoPadilla: alsamixergui
[01:29] <FranciscoPadilla> Thanks
[01:36] <cheeseboy> np
[01:39] <FranciscoPadilla> I have a USB optical mouse with two extra buttons at the side that used to take me BACK and FORWARD in Firefox under Windows. Is there any way I can enable those buttons under Xubuntu?
[01:41] <cheeseboy> TheSheep you there?
[01:42] <FranciscoPadilla> One button does open a context menu, but it's supposed to take me BACK.
[01:54] <KlrSpz> where's the proper place to file bugs?
[01:57] <rici> KlrSpz: wanna give us a hint first? if not, http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/
[01:57] <KlrSpz> for xubuntu?
[01:57] <rici> oops, sorry, wrong channel
[01:57] <KlrSpz> figured that was obvious sine we're in the xubuntu channel and all
[01:57] <rici> let me dig that one out for you.
[01:58] <rici> i have it at hand, too :)
[01:58] <KlrSpz> all i'm finding is this "launchpad' side
[01:58] <KlrSpz> site
[01:58] <KlrSpz> which looks 3rd party, so i'm not sure if the xubuntu devs really look at that
[01:58] <rici> no, the launchpad site is correct
[01:59] <rici> if you've already got that, go for it
[01:59] <KlrSpz> ok nm then.. the bug is already filed.. just no action
[01:59] <rici> which bug is it?
[02:00] <KlrSpz> let me find the exact one real quick
[02:01] <KlrSpz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+bug/108785
[02:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108785 in mplayer "gmplayer says 'gnome_screensaver_control()'" [Undecided,New] 
[02:02] <KlrSpz> that's the one bugging me
[02:02] <rici> oh, right.
[02:06] <R[a] ndom> hey I'm having a weird issue I'm trying to troubleshoot.  I'm trying to find out what causes it during boot.  I booted into single user, and have been /etc/init.d/service start'ing things one by one but cant find it.  Where can I locate some sort of startup script that lists everything run during bootup.
[02:06] <R[a] ndom> I'm looking for something around the time GDM is loaded
[02:06] <R[a] ndom> slightly after it is called actually
[02:07] <KlrSpz> R[a] ndom: there's no one central script, as there are many runlevels
[02:08] <R[a] ndom> ..
[02:08] <KlrSpz> check out sysv-rc-conf
[02:08] <KlrSpz> install that, that is
[02:08] <R[a] ndom> installing
[02:09] <R[a] ndom> hm.
[02:09] <R[a] ndom> but the order in which they are executed is really what I need :/
[02:09] <R[a] ndom> as I know it happens shortly after gdm is called
[02:10] <R[a] ndom> any idea for that?
[02:10] <rici> the order is essentially lexicographical within the /etc/rcX.d directory
[02:10] <rici> S means Start and K means Kill
[02:13] <R[a] ndom> hm. it looks like its wicd
[02:13] <R[a] ndom> i hope so
[02:13] <R[a] ndom> cause I can find another solution for that
[02:13] <R[a] ndom> its causing a ticking noise in my laptop speaker, after a bios update.
[02:13] <R[a] ndom> one of those nice random errors :P
[02:20] <KlrSpz> food time, bbl
[02:30] <R[a] ndom> agh
[02:30] <R[a] ndom> ok so that fixed my problem
[02:31] <R[a] ndom> now for #2.  when I click the logout button, instead of asking me what I want to do, it just quits xfce
[02:31] <R[a] ndom> instead of popping up the restart/logout/suspend/hibernate/etc window
[02:31] <R[a] ndom> any ideas?  google isnt being helpful
[02:37] <R[a] ndom> "no APM support in kernel"
[02:37] <R[a] ndom> ..
[02:37] <R[a] ndom> I guess the bios update was a bad idea afterall
[02:40] <R[a] ndom> how do I tell it to suspend from the console?
[02:40] <R[a] ndom> im curious if the button is just gone, or it actually can't do it anymore
[03:08] <R[a] ndom> :/
[03:26] <cheeseboy> vidd_laptop you know python?
[03:26] <vidd_laptop> not really
[03:26] <cheeseboy> :(
[03:29] <R[a] ndom> know how to ask xubuntu to suspend from command line? :P
[03:41] <vidd_laptop> R[a] ndom, you could try apmsleep http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_apmsleep.htm
[03:41] <R[a] ndom> hm. shouldn't there be just a command tho?
[03:42] <R[a] ndom> cause I used to have a suspend button
[03:42] <R[a] ndom> but now I dont seem to
[03:47] <vidd_laptop> R[a] ndom, apmsleep is a command
[03:51] <cheeseboy> how do i restart usb ?
[03:51] <R[a] ndom> oh sorry. I thought you were telling me to download a program by that name
[03:52] <vidd_laptop> unplug it and plug it back in cheeseboy
[03:52] <R[a] ndom> kk ill try that when I boot back into nix. thx
[03:53] <cheeseboy> vidd_laptop: i keep pluggin my mouse in then it freezes
[03:54] <vidd_laptop> cheeseboy, did you think maybe its the mouse?
[03:56] <cheeseboy> nope
[03:56] <cheeseboy> it magiALLY FIXED THO
[03:56] <cheeseboy> opps caps
[04:05] <illu45> ;lo
[04:05] <illu45> 'lo, even
[04:13] <xjkx> could anyone make thunderbird read hotmail?
[04:17] <R[a] ndom> vidd_laptop, your kernel does not support APM
[04:17] <R[a] ndom> so I guess the bios update killed apm support
[04:18] <vidd_laptop> hrm
[04:18] <R[a] ndom> ibm t23 btw
[04:19] <vidd_laptop> i dunno
[04:19] <Armadillio> hey guys, what's a good CD ripping program real quick?
[04:19] <vidd_laptop> acidrip
[04:19] <R[a] ndom> I use grip
[04:19] <Armadillio> banshee depends on a lot of gnome stuff, so I thought I'd try something else
[04:19] <R[a] ndom> I also like abcde
[04:19] <Armadillio> I thought acidrip was for DVDs? and i'll try grip
[04:20] <Armadillio> is there a gui?
[04:20] <R[a] ndom> abcde is command line, takes a second to configure first time, but is fast afterwards
[04:20] <R[a] ndom> grip is gui
[04:20] <Armadillio> alright, i'll try abcde later. thanks guys.
[04:20] <R[a] ndom> I just like abcde cause I can rip to multiple formats
[04:20] <R[a] ndom> np
[04:20] <R[a] ndom> abcde -o flac,ogg,mp3
[04:21] <Armadillio> can you make abcde rip exclusive (certain) tracks?
[04:21] <R[a] ndom> dunno. never tried
[04:21] <R[a] ndom> ripping for torrent site
[04:21] <R[a] ndom> grip can easily tho
[04:23] <Armadillio> so whats up people, i'm bored as hell
[04:24] <Armadillio> grips annoying me, i'm just trying to tell it where to set the files when they are done
[04:25] <R[a] ndom> config -> encode -> encode file format
[04:25] <R[a] ndom> I did it that way
[04:25] <R[a] ndom> ~/newmp3/%A - %d/%t-%n.%x
[04:27] <Armadillio> alright i'll give that a go then
[04:27] <Armadillio> thanks again
[04:27] <R[a] ndom> np
[04:57] <mattgyver83> Hey room!  I am running Xubuntu on a p2 with minimal ram, is there anything i can do within xubuntu to make it operate a tad faster excluding upgrading my ram?
[05:06] <illu45> mattgyver83, not sure... Here are a few links you could take a look at, though: http://jozmak.blogspot.com/2007/04/optimizing-xubuntus-user-interface.html
[05:06] <illu45> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Optimization
[05:07] <illu45> That's pretty well all I can see. Maybe try a ubuntuforums.org search for "optimization" or "improving speed", or something like that.
[05:08] <mattgyver83> Great, thanks
[05:08] <mattgyver83> someone else suggested trying a different window manager as well
[05:08] <illu45> No trouble, good luck with xubuntu. Feel free to ask again here when its a bit more... active.
[05:08] <illu45> Ah, yes, you can try fluxbox or openbox.
[05:08] <mattgyver83> Yeah i know right ';) everyones asleep
[05:09] <mattgyver83> yeah i will probably try that
[05:09] <mattgyver83> I have the GTK libraries installed so technically i can still install Gnome and KDE apps.  Would that cause any problems though, as far as lag and sys processes?
[05:09] <illu45> They're a fair bit faster, especially to boot. They look pretty slick, too, IMO, I just could never quite set them up quite how I wanted, but I'm sure with some patience and reading its possible.
[05:10] <mattgyver83> My only experience with them is when trying to setup DSL which that was a pain in the neck
[05:10] <illu45> Ah :(... I take it you have a wifi network?
[05:10] <mattgyver83> but i believe that was strictly because DSL doesnt seem to remember much .... by choice
[05:11] <mattgyver83> Well yes i do, but i am speaking of Damn Small Linux
[05:11] <illu45> Ahhh
[05:11] <illu45> As far as I know, it shouldn't cause any lag when launching the programs, although some of the gnome and especially kde apps are quite bulky in themselves and would cause slowdown.
[05:11] <mattgyver83> that coudl be it
[05:12] <mattgyver83> Realistically i just want to use Evolution as a calendar program
[05:12] <mattgyver83> Thats it
[05:12] <illu45> You'll probably want to check about the libraries with someone else though, I'm not sure if a program calling previously sleeping or non-running libraries would cause slowdown.
[05:12] <illu45> Ah, ok
[05:12] <mattgyver83> The laptop that i am using is ancient, however its amazing how with linux it boots faster then a PC that is running windows 2k about 3 years newer than it
[05:13] <illu45> hehe
[05:14] <mattgyver83> I would like to ask an unrelated question pertaining to a DSL connection however
[05:14] <illu45> Yes, linux is nice like that :). Especially if you've not reformatted the windows partition in a while, it gets quite sluggish, as I'm sure you know :P
[05:14] <mattgyver83> (and i mean direct service link)
[05:14] <illu45> hehe, sure, not sure if I'll be able to answer, but ask away
[05:14] <mattgyver83> On reboot i have to ifdown and ifup my network interface... i hope i said that right
[05:14] <mattgyver83> it does not automatically obtain a connection
[05:15] <mattgyver83> and i dont know why that is.  I have set everything correctly in the network controls, i am using a USB wifi adapter.  I either have to ifdown and ifup it, or restart my router.  Any suggestions... i am already using a static IP.
[05:15] <mattgyver83> (thats the first thing everyone tells me)
[05:17] <illu45> Ah... Not sure what the problem could be, sorry. My solution to something like that would be to write a small script that does ifdown and ifup and make it launch at startup. Again, I'd suggest asking when more people are around, I must be one of the few people who uses still uses a wired LAN :P
[05:18] <mattgyver83> I am not too keen on scripting quite yet
[05:18] <mattgyver83> I have read some things and have some programming experience, but not with bash
[05:19] <mikubuntu> cellofellow: how's it going.  what's the best way to get wine?
[05:19] <cellofellow> mattgyver83: add ifup and ifdown to /etc/rc.local
[05:20] <illu45> that would work, yes
[05:20] <mattgyver83> cellofellow; what role does the rc.local file play?
[05:20] <illu45> mikubuntu, sudo apt-get install wine?
[05:20] <cellofellow> mikubuntu: you can download from the Feisty repos, and there are third-party repos with more recent files.
[05:20] <mattgyver83> n/m, i will just google
[05:21] <cellofellow> mattgyver83: it runs certain commands after the whole init system has been gone through. That is after it goes through the Startup and 2 runlevels.
[05:21] <cellofellow> mattgyver83: it's just a simple shell script really.
[05:21] <mattgyver83> Thanks.
[05:21] <mikubuntu> illu45: have you installed that way before?
[05:22] <illu45> mikubuntu, yep. Works fine for me, although I don't use wine much.
[05:22] <mikubuntu> illu45: it's just for like reading windows docs and stuff right?
[05:23] <cellofellow> it's for running Windows code really.
[05:23] <illu45> cellofellow, hm, out of curiosity, what is the difference between putting something into rc.local and putting it into a seperate file into /etc/init.d/ ? runlevel?
[05:23] <cellofellow> um, simplicity.
[05:24] <illu45> ah, ok. Both will run at the same runlevel, then?
[05:24] <cellofellow> You get less control with rc.local. I only put commands that are run and be done in rc.local. /etc/init.d/ is for scripts to start daemons.
[05:24] <mattgyver83> illu45, how could i go about setting a 'default' window manager if i choose to use one different than xfce?
[05:26] <mikubuntu> cellofellow: i thought it was for like if you have documents written in ms word, stuff like that that open office doesn't recognise?
[05:26] <illu45> mattgyver83, well, when you install a new window manager, you should also create a new session  (if the install doesn't do it for you). On login, you select your session (Fluxbox, for example). If it is different than your current default, Ubuntu will ask if you want to make that (Fluxbox) your default session. Simply answer yes :)
[05:26] <cellofellow> mikubuntu: yeah, you could use it for that, but only by installing MS Word on top of Wine.
[05:26] <illu45> cellofellow, ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me :)
[05:27] <illu45> mikubuntu, yes, you'd need to install Word through Wine. Afaik, OOo should be able to read word documents just fine, though.
[05:27] <mikubuntu> cellofellow: hmmmmm. maybe i dint need to just install 45 megs of it then.  sounds like 45 kegs of wine might be better.
[05:28] <illu45> hehe
[05:28] <cellofellow> I've only ever run in to really ugly, stupidly laid out MS Word pages that OOo didn't mess up.
[05:28] <cellofellow> or, did
[05:29] <Jester45> cellofellow, you wouldnt mind helping me with ssh tunnels and ftp
[05:29] <mikubuntu> is there any other way of reading windows stuff that you know of?  i know in google docs you can convert files from one kind to another, but i havent figured out how to port the files into it in the first place.
[05:30] <Jester45> i can connect to the ftp server via a ssh tunnel but the file names never show up
[05:30] <cellofellow> Jester45: who needs to tunnel FTP over SSH? Why not just use SFTP?
[05:30] <Jester45> but if i dont use a tunnel then its fine
[05:30] <mikubuntu> illu45: so if i want to take wine off would be sudo apt-get uninstall wine?
[05:30] <illu45> remove, yes
[05:31] <illu45> "sudo apt-get remove wine"
[05:31] <Jester45> or... install wine-
[05:31] <cellofellow> Jester45: why tunnel?
[05:31] <mikubuntu> sudo apt-get remove wine?
[05:31] <Jester45> just to conduse things :)
[05:31] <Jester45> confuse*
[05:31] <Jester45> cellofellow, join #viddandme
[05:31] <cellofellow> Jester45: SFTP so much simpler. Just use the SSH2 protocol in GFTP.
[05:32] <illu45> mikubuntu, yes
[05:32] <mikubuntu> illu45: thanks
[05:32] <illu45> mikubuntu, any time :)
[05:33] <mikubuntu> gonna go check it out though, while i've got it in front of me.  see yas in a while no doubt
[05:37] <mikubuntu> what does it mean that my curser suddenly went black?
[05:37] <mikubuntu> cursor
[05:37] <cellofellow> you've a problem
[05:38] <cellofellow> restarting X should fix it.
[05:38] <mikubuntu> cellofellow: how?
[05:38] <cellofellow> ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:38] <cellofellow> everyone should know that one.
[05:38] <mikubuntu> is it something i did installing and removing wine?
[05:39] <cellofellow> prolly not
[05:39] <mikubuntu> hmmmm... now that you mention it, i think someone had me do that last nite and x didn't restart, i had to reboot... but i'll try
[09:45] <michaelpo> i just installed weather wallpaper... why only status icon only? not showing at the wallpaper?
[07:03] <albert> hey what torrent program do yall use?
[07:14] <SrRaven> utorrent
[07:26] <albert> have yall heard about deluge?
[08:36] <cheeseboy> whats a good python ide ?
[08:36] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: vim
[08:37] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: the ones listed on pthon.org are nice too
[08:37] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: and I know at least one serious developer using eclipse for python
[08:37] <TheSheep> python.org, sorry
[08:38] <cheeseboy> TheSheep:  i dont know any language but i want to fix that script it still didn't work :(
[08:39] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: what error this time?
[08:39] <cheeseboy> TheSheep none
[08:39] <cheeseboy> but it didnt play a video
[08:39] <TheSheep> fun
[08:39] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: maybe you should contact the author?
[08:40] <cheeseboy> TheSheep: i have but he cant fix it
[08:40] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: how so?
[08:41] <cheeseboy> TheSheep: he doesnt know whats wrong / how to fix it
[08:42] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: tough luck
[08:42] <cheeseboy> unless u fix it im not gonna have it for a long time
[08:43] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: if the author himself can't, then I'm afraid I stand a much slimmer chance
[08:44] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: and since I hate to fail, and on top of that I'm very lazy...
[08:45] <cheeseboy> TheSheep: everyone ive talked to said script is horrible
[08:45] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: that it is
[08:52] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: which is actually a good reason to not touch it in itself :)
[08:52] <cheeseboy> ?
[08:52] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: working with ugly code ain't pleasant
[08:52] <cheeseboy> i want to write a new one just use that on as refrence
[08:52] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: you still have to read it
[08:52] <cheeseboy> TheSheep: read what?
[08:52] <vidd_laptop> the script...in all its uglyness
[08:52] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: the old, ugly code
[08:53] <TheSheep> ooh, the places plugin is so extremeally cool now
[08:53] <vidd_laptop> btw..what script are you having issues with?
[08:53] <cheeseboy> well i know no python so itd be harder to do it completly from scratch
[08:53] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: something that checks a web page, gets some urls from it and launches mplayer with them
[08:53] <cheeseboy> on my xbox
[08:54] <vidd_laptop> gee...good luck with that!
[08:54] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[08:55] <vidd_laptop> i guess just dl'ing the data file doesnt work?
[08:55] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: you need to extract the url to it first
[08:55] <vidd_laptop> so you cant wget it?
[08:56] <razvan23> i just installed xubuntu but i couldn't manage how can i add some apps to taskbar ?
[08:56] <cheeseboy> it streams it
[08:56] <TheSheep> razvan23: right click on it
[08:56] <cheeseboy> vidd_laptop: my xbox doesnt run linux
[08:56] <vidd_laptop> then why are you asking about it here????
[08:56] <razvan23> TheSheep, when i right click it the app starts
[08:57] <cheeseboy> vidd_laptop: beacause i was asking for a good python ide
[08:57] <TheSheep> razvan23: that's funny, you should get a menu instead
[08:57] <TheSheep> razvan23: where do you want to add the applications, again?
[08:57] <razvan23> TheSheep, i have a menu called applications but i want some apps to be added to task bar or desktop also to gdesklets
[08:58] <vidd_laptop> razvan23, do you have the mouse buttons reversed (left-handed settings)?
[08:58] <TheSheep> razvan23: just add them in those programs
[08:58] <razvan23> vidd_laptop, no
[08:58] <TheSheep> razvan23: right click on the panel, select 'add item', then 'launcher'
[09:19] <razvan23> well i have just installed beagle but i dont know how to start it?
[09:26] <TheSheep> razvan23: I'm sure it came with documentation of some kind
[09:26] <TheSheep> razvan23: check /usr/share/doc/beagle*
[09:51] <Ben_Cs> pidgin doesn't support video right? so what messenger/prog does?
[09:54] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: Ekiga, Skype, Gizmo
[09:54] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: the first one is open
[09:55] <Ben_Cs> how do i video in skype? don't see the option
[09:55] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: maybe I spoke too early
[09:55] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: sorry
[09:56] <Ben_Cs> next versions should have it i hear
[09:56] <Ben_Cs> so what do u thinks is better? ekiga or gizmo?
[09:58] <Ben_Cs> does ekiga have msn protocol?
[10:02] <somerville32> ekiga is VOIP, isn't it?
[10:02] <somerville32> not a messenger client
[10:06] <hyper_ch> huhu somerville32
[10:06] <j1mc> somerville32: yeah
[10:06] <hyper_ch> huhu j1mc
[10:06] <hyper_ch> huhu archangelpetro
[10:06] <j1mc> huhu?
[10:07] <hyper_ch> huhu Jester45
[10:07] <hyper_ch> huhu kalikiana
[10:07] <somerville32> moogles
[10:07] <hyper_ch> huhu maxamillion
[10:07] <hyper_ch> huhu Pumpernickel
[10:07] <hyper_ch> huhu TheSheep
[10:07] <hyper_ch> huhu ubotu
[10:07] <hyper_ch> ;)
[10:07] <hyper_ch> j1mc: huhu is just a "hi" ;)
[10:08] <hyper_ch> everything is packed and ready to be moved tomorrow... except my computer ;)
[10:08] <archangelpetro> hi
[10:08] <archangelpetro> enlightenment kinda sucks
[10:09] <hyper_ch> archangelpetro: why?
[10:09] <archangelpetro> lol
[10:09] <archangelpetro> it wont even save my settings
[10:09] <archangelpetro> i changed my bg
[10:09] <archangelpetro> and every time i start afresh it resets
[10:09] <archangelpetro> to the default..
[10:09] <archangelpetro> the menu icons are fucked
[10:10] <archangelpetro> and the navigation is kinda bad
[10:11] <hyper_ch> archangelpetro: that's it? ;)
[10:11] <archangelpetro> well
[10:11] <archangelpetro> yea
[10:11] <archangelpetro> i like the whole 'free window' type feel of WMs
[10:11] <archangelpetro> but, tbh
[10:11] <archangelpetro> i think FVWM is just better
[10:12] <hyper_ch> each one his own
[10:12] <archangelpetro> indeed
[10:14] <Ben_Cs> it seems Gizmo has msn protocol
[10:28] <hyper_ch> how can I restart my wifi?
[10:29] <neozen> hyper_ch: sudo ifdown yourcardhere
[10:29] <neozen> that'll bring it down
[10:30] <neozen> then to reconnect just perform whatever steps you usually do to connect
[10:31] <hyper_ch> neozen: iwconfig still shows the old ESSID
[10:31] <neozen> so you using network manager?
[10:31] <hyper_ch> neozen: tried to... changed it there
[10:32] <neozen> so ... it worked....
[10:32] <neozen> what's the problem?
[10:32] <hyper_ch> and ifdown on the wifi card didn't really work
[10:32] <hyper_ch> neozen: no, iwconfig still displays the old ESSID
[10:32] <hyper_ch> neozen: not the new one
[10:32] <neozen> ah
[10:34] <neozen> what kind of card?
[10:35] <hyper_ch> linksys - rt2500 chip
[10:35] <hyper_ch> don't worry
[10:35] <neozen> I'm really not the person to ask to be honest
[10:36] <neozen> I just whack the wireless button on my laptop when I need to reset the card
[10:36] <neozen> works quite nicely
[10:36] <neozen> driver gets a tad mad....
[10:36] <neozen> but plays nice soon after
[10:40] <hyper_ch> ;)
[10:48] <corrupt> i just recently installed xubuntu and i'm running into a problem--how do i connect to the internet via 802.11x?
[10:49] <TheSheep> !wifi | corrupt
[10:49] <ubotu> corrupt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:58] <corrupt> cool, i'm now connected to the internet on my laptop; however, why isn't my network manager on any of the panels? why doesn't my network manager show any incoming or outgoing traffic?
[11:00] <TheSheep> corrupt: you need to add it yourself
[11:00] <TheSheep> corrupt: right-click on the panel and select 'add new item'
[11:09] <Ben_Cs> one of the advantages of being familiar with xfce is that it's used commonly as the desktop environment in terminal services, like in my college for example. that is: windows is the main os but you can remote to linux.
[11:28] <murat_> i want to add beryl at startup but i cant find where is the system>preferences?
[11:29] <corrupt> there's no way for me to select the network manager to add to my panel, it isn't shown in the list.
[11:29] <corrupt> is there an alternative to network manager such as the one ubuntu (gnome) uses?
[11:31] <murat_> is there anyone who can help me?
[11:32] <TheSheep> murat_: settings->autostarted applications
[11:33] <TheSheep> corrupt: yes, you can install the gnome's one, you can also use a number of others -- I think I remember things like "wifi radar" mentioned here before
[11:33] <murat_> but it says autostart/beryl.desktop couldn't write
[11:33] <TheSheep> corrupt: I'm sure you'll find more information on the forums
[11:33] <murat_> TheSheep, but it says autostart/beryl.desktop couldn't write
[11:34] <TheSheep> murat_: check the file permissions in your home directory and subdirectories
[11:34] <TheSheep> murat_: you must have done something nasty with sudo
[11:34] <murat_> TheSheep, i have just installed xubuntu so i didnt do anything bad i guess
[11:39] <darwin81> How do I install an icon set?
[12:09] <corrupt> what's the default shell for ubuntu?
[12:10] <Jester45>  bash
[12:10] <Jester45> i would also say that sh is linked to dash
[12:10] <Jester45> !info mpd
[12:10] <ubotu> mpd: Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.2-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 127 kB, installed size 404 kB
[12:10] <corrupt> thanks Jester45
[12:10] <Jester45> o good its uptodate
[12:11] <Jester45> well kinda
[12:11] <Jester45> hey tommy
[12:16] <gnomefreak> bash is default user shell daash is default system shell