[12:37] <nosrednaekim> gnomefreak: ah
[12:37] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: didnt really know where to DL it too in the first place
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: run "cd ~/Desktop"
[12:37] <titanix88_> nerv203: i had 256 few months and blender does not use vdo card. so i was running fine.only rendering time was *!too!* slow :)
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: and then "ls"
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> see if its there
[12:37] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: try sudo dpkg -r automatix2
[12:38] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: still not coming up
[12:38] <nerv203> titanix: Alright, I'll give it a go then.
[12:38] <nerv203> I'm just glad I found a bomberman clone and r-type clone :)
[12:38] <ivan300> nosrednaekim: no one there
[12:38] <elite101> no one ever made a livecd in here?
[12:38] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove automatix2 which isn't installed.
[12:38] <ScarFreewill> if i run kopete and i say connect (with any of my accounts) then nothing happens (the wallet doesn't even open) console outputs nothing too
[12:38] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: good
[12:38] <genii> NickPresta: :)
[12:39] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: open /etc/apt/sources.list in an editor with sudo or kdesu and remove automatix lines
[12:39] <gnomefreak> than save it and close
[12:39] <ScarFreewill> if i go it a site that wants to register me they tell me i need to enable cookies
[12:39] <Sieph> (hello) I tried installing kubuntu after having a GNOME issue with ubuntu (I'm on a thinkpad r51) - having booted up on the kubuntu liveCD should I have got any sort of acknowledgement of it having loaded within, like, 2 hours?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: while in there make sure all your ubuntu repos are enabled
[12:39] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: how exactly?
[12:39] <elite101> ahh you cant make a Kubuntu livecd? only a Ubuntu one xD
[12:39] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: universe multiverse updates restricted ect....
[12:39] <lnx_> google earth is restict software ?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: you have kate?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> lnx_: yes
[12:40] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:40] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: when its open look for all the automatix lines and remove them
[12:40] <gnomefreak> elite101: you can make kubuntu one
[12:40] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: yes and everytime i open kate it says this
[12:40] <jcolvin> Could not find mime type
[12:40] <jcolvin> application/octet-stream
[12:40] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: hmmmmmmmm
[12:40] <gnomefreak> i havent seen that yet
[12:41] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: install kedit
[12:41] <gnomefreak> and use that
[12:41] <lnx_> gnomefreak , restict is all what isnt under gpl ?
[12:41] <titanix88_> lnx_:yes
[12:41] <gnomefreak> not under GPL
[12:41] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:41] <Biovore> jcolvin: I seem a few people are starting to have that problem..
[12:41] <gnomefreak> lnx_: google licensed it under a restricted license
[12:41] <titanix88_> lnx_: no . it means it does not satisfy certain creiterions of free software.
[12:41] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: that was my initial problem, i didnt know how to install programs so i just started putting the link in konsole
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Biovore: can you give him a  hand getting rid of automatix repos and enabling all ubuntu repos?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> jcolvin: sudo apt-get install kedit
[12:42] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:42] <gnomefreak> i have to go for a bit
[12:42] <jcolvin> gnomefreak:
[12:42] <jcolvin> deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main
[12:42] <jcolvin> deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main
[12:42] <jcolvin> i see that in kate
[12:42] <gnomefreak> remove them
[12:43] <jcolvin> gnomefreak: ok did that
[12:43] <lnx_> openoffice is better than koffice ? ( i have never use it and i want to install it ) ?
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> openoffice is , in general, better
[12:44] <jcolvin> IT WORKED!
[12:44] <jcolvin> now that stupid message isnt popping up
[12:44] <titanix88_> lnx_: it's ur opinion as many people prefer IE6 over firefox.
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: great.... lol... now what did you want to install?
[12:45] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: that wine applicaton that will allow me to use microsoft office 2007
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: is it garunteed to run 2007?
[12:45] <Sieph> uum... just installed kubuntu from a CD, is there a way to make the install permanent (i.e. not running from the CD)? I see that ubuntu has a desktop icon on startup for this, but I'm not sure where to look on kubuntu...
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> and as a side note.... why do you need Office 2007?
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> Sieph: you installed it already?
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> Sieph: or just booted it?
[12:46] <lnx_> im just asking . , ,
[12:46] <titanix88_> lnx_: what?
[12:46] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: not sure...for my classes. I tried open office and tried saving as microsoft word documents but it still shows up incompatible when i transfer to my other peers
[12:46] <Sieph> nosrednaekim: well I got the iso file, burnt it to a CD, and just installed it, or booted it (I'm not sure, sorry) - as in I rebooted the computer with the disc in the drive, and selected 'load and install' or whatever the top option is
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> Sieph: ah...no you didn't load it permanantly.
[12:47] <jcolvin> sieph: i did the install from text
[12:47] <jcolvin> sieph: and now i have kubuntu permanately installed
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: thats odd. did you select the file type as "doc"?
[12:47] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: yessir
[12:47] <NickPresta> Sieph, once you select the "Install Kubuntu", you have to wait for the Desktop to load. Then click on the "Install" icon.
[12:48] <Sieph> NickPresta: ah, that's what I feared
[12:48] <Sieph> oh hang on, there's something in the K menu under the heading 'system' which said 'install'
[12:48] <lnx_> someone us mozilla-mplayer plugin for firefox ?
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: did you save it with the ".doc" extension?
[12:48] <Sieph> (that is to say, not on the desktop)
[12:48] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: yes i did save it as .doc
[12:49] <NickPresta> Sieph, it's been a while since I've installed via LiveCD (I've upgraded to the latest versions for about a year) but if there isn't an install icon on the desktop, it is certainly in the KMenu.
[12:50] <Sieph> NickPresta: ok, well we've clicked on that and it's gone back to whirring the CD furiously, so hopefully something will happen :)
[12:50] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: very odd.. i have NEVER had a document be unreadable in  MS office.
[12:51] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: say i wanted to install sophos
[12:51] <Sieph> I'm just a bit paranoid, since I tried to install ubuntu but that didn't work (there was a GNOME problem, or somesuch), so tried kubuntu, and am just a bit resigned to failure by now :P
[12:51] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: i DL and extracted it to my desktop already
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: whats that?
[12:51] <NickPresta> Sieph, heh. If worse comes to worst, you can always use the Alternate Install CD (text based installer). It is faster and it doesn't depend on X/QT/GTK/whatever to install.
[12:51] <frindou> hello room
[12:52] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: virus protection. required by my school if i want to use their internet
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: this is linux! you don't need any of that junk (and it won't work anyway)
[12:52] <Sieph> NickPresta: ooh, although will I need wizard computer-fu to make something like that work?
[12:52] <NickPresta> !hi | frindou
[12:52] <ubotu> frindou: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:53] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: very nice so can you help me install wine so i can use microsoft office?
[12:53] <Sieph> (I do maths, not computers _)
[12:53] <NickPresta> Sieph, the text-installer is fairly straight forward. The options are essentially the same, but there is nothing "fancy" about it. Debian and other distros have a similar installer
[12:53] <frindou> thanks uboto
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: umm sure.
[12:53] <owl> *sigh* i can't change my wallpaper anymore ^^
[12:53] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: thanks
[12:53] <frindou> im new in ubuntu i try it i find it verry nice but i have same problim
[12:53] <NickPresta> !wine | jcolvin
[12:53] <titanix88_> jcolvin: tell them linux does not have virus. if they don't like it install a free avira or avg for linux who checcks for win virus and satisfy them:)
[12:53] <ubotu> jcolvin: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:54] <NickPresta> !ask | frindou
[12:54] <ubotu> frindou: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <frindou> my soon dont work
[12:54] <NickPresta> frindou, what is your native language?
[12:54] <frindou> french
[12:54] <frindou> andarabic
[12:54] <NickPresta> !fr | frindou
[12:54] <ubotu> frindou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:55] <frindou> ok
[12:55] <frindou> but i prefer englais
[12:55] <NickPresta> frindou, okay.
[12:55] <NickPresta> frindou, would I be correct in assuming "soon" means sound?
[12:55] <frindou> yes
[12:55] <jcolvin> nickpresta: !wine | jcolvin in the konsole?
[12:55] <NickPresta> frindou, what doesn't work, specifically?
[12:56] <NickPresta> jcolvin, no, follow the instructions in the link ubot gave you
[12:56] <Sieph> NickPresta: ok, well I'll give this install another few hours and when that fails try the text installer (or just wait until I'm in London and can go and assault my linuxy friend) :P
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: no... look at that link which that command generated...
[12:56] <frindou> if i install ubuntu my sound dont working
[12:56] <jcolvin> nickpresta: thanks will do. is he an automated bot?
[12:56] <NickPresta> Sieph, heh, okay. Good luck
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: yep!
[12:56] <NickPresta> !bot
[12:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> !botnack
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botnack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Sieph> thanks, and thanks for the help, I'll probably be back in about 4 hours _
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[12:56] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:57] <lnx_> someone us mozilla-mplayer plugin for firefox ?
[12:57] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: whats up with repository
[12:57] <frindou> tell me ubotu
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: repository?
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> !repository | jcolvin
[12:58] <ubotu> jcolvin: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:58] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: like it tells me to add the repository http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> jcolvin: you can do that in adept_manager->adept-> manage repositories
[12:59] <frindou> #ubuntu-ar
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> BTW jcolvin https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/12373
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> and I have to go! bye!
[01:00] <jcolvin> nosrednaekim: thanks a lot
 hey i think i knwo why its not working my direct rendering is disabled
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> ivan300: :)
 thanks a lot cya
[01:06] <elpez> hello... how do i tell kubuntu to automatically load a certain program whenever i turn my computer on?
[01:12] <FrankH> elpez System Settings-->Advanced Tab-->Service Manager
[01:14] <FrankH> elpez: maybe not
[01:14] <FrankH> anyone:  looking for the session manager in kubuntu
[01:15] <winbond> where is the option to change single click to doubleclick, when opening/running stuff?
[01:18] <gilad> Hi I've got a problem - when I try to install some programs I get an error msg "wrong architetcture 'i386'" - my computer is 64bit. what can I do?
[01:18] <elpez> FrankH: I see a list of programs that start up there... but i cant figure out how to add one
[01:19] <FrankH> elpez:  i spoke too soon
[01:19] <FrankH> trying to find out what the equivalent to the session manager in ubuntu is in kubuntu
[01:20] <FrankH> or how to do it from terminal
[01:21] <elpez> FrankH: oh... i see
[01:21] <tyler_> kcontrol
[01:21] <tyler_> might be what you're looking for
[01:21] <FrankH> is that in the menu?
[01:22] <tyler_> Alt + F2
[01:22] <FrankH> thanks tyler_
[01:22] <tyler_> sure
[01:24] <FrankH> elpez:  try typing in kcontrol after you press alt+F2
[01:24] <elpez> yes i am now in kcontrol
[01:24] <FrankH> let me know if it works
[01:26] <elpez> well.. maybe im a bit dumb, because i still cant find how to add a program to startup... :S
[01:28] <FrankH> lol...i can't find it either
[01:28] <tyler_> well... from the terminal
[01:28] <tyler_> you can go to .kde/Autostart
[01:28] <tyler_> and add programs there
[01:29] <tyler_> from kcontrol, it's probably under the KDE Components section
[01:30] <FrankH> tyler_:  not in there
[01:31] <elpez> in Autostart there is a.directory file... do i edit that?
[01:31] <FrankH> tyler_:  add an executable that point to where the app is installed in ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:32] <tyler_> I'm not too knowledgeable about that
[01:33] <FrankH> elpez:  where is the app located that you want to install?
[01:34] <elpez> FrankH: /usr/bin/ktemperature
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> ln -s /usr/bin/ktemperature ~/.kde/Autostart/
[01:38] <elpez> that created a link in  autostart... does this mean im done?
[01:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> here's a fun question...  how would i go about changing the *name* of my pc.  dell's so...  impersonal.
[01:38] <FrankH> elpez: try restarting X
[01:39] <FrankH> or reboot
[01:40] <tyler_> You can change your username fairly easily
[01:40] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Laptop: hostname
[01:40] <jhutchins> permanently in /etc/sysconfig
[01:41] <mohamed_> is there  imap client , that is fast when apply filters on mailing lists ?
[01:41] <flaccid> mohamed_: opera
[01:41] <mohamed_> thx flaccid , i will try it
[01:41] <flaccid> coolio
[01:45] <Daisuke-Laptop> well that wasn't very fun
[01:47] <BluesKaj> evening 'nixnuts
[01:51] <drif> evening blues
[01:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> so i've given up on finding jbuilder 2005 for linux.
[01:55] <sk1t3lles> Hi, I have a script I'd like to run at system start up as root, where do I put it so this happens?
[01:55] <Arwen> register it as one of the init.d scripts
[01:55] <sk1t3lles> how do I do that?
[01:56] <Arwen> !init
[01:56] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:56] <Arwen> not entirely sure actually
[02:02] <elite101> hello
[02:07] <FrankH> cd
[02:09] <mohamed_> flaccid, i download opera but only browser  that install, is mail client separate from browser ?
[02:09] <smax> hi ganng
[02:10] <flaccid> mohamed_: why would you want them separate?
[02:10] <smax> i have a recent copy of kubuntu on CD. and am currently running an older version.  is it feasable to install the recent kubuntu with out destroying my files?
[02:10] <smax> i have no means of backing up.
[02:10] <mohamed_> i don't want that, only i can't see mail client under any menu
[02:10] <Jucato> flaccid: I think he's looking for it
[02:10] <smax> too much data.
[02:10] <smax> just need a fresh kubuntu.
[02:11] <flaccid> mohamed_: add a mail account and you will get the mail client
[02:11] <flaccid> mohamed_: but its integrated - so much better
[02:11] <mohamed_> of course only i want to open it, i don't know how :)
[02:11] <Jucato> (and they say Konqueror having all those other "integrated" features is bad :P)
[02:12] <Jucato> I think you have to enable the Mail account in Opera first...
[02:14] <flaccid> mohamed_: Tools | Mail and chat accounts
[02:14] <flaccid> !opera
[02:14] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[02:14] <flaccid> there is also loads of resources on opera.com as well as the help menu..
[02:14] <mohamed_> now i see it :) thx flaccid
[02:14] <flaccid> np
[02:17] <r0y4l> hey guys - anyone here who's using three monitors with two graphic cards (pci & agp) with nvidia and got glx working? i've got several problems starting apps like oowriter if i enable the glx module.
[02:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah, virtualization is enabled
[02:25] <elite101> not much life going on here
[02:25] <flaccid> thats a good thing
[02:25] <elite101> :P
[02:26] <flaccid> `kick elite101
[02:26] <flaccid> :p
[02:26] <flaccid> i wish
[02:33] <elite101> no
[02:33] <elite101> :(
[02:33] <BluesKaj> ppl here in Canada are sitting back and relaxing after dinner...i assume it's the same in the US
[02:33] <intelikey> you can always do like everyone else that feels unwanted, troll !
[02:34] <rodrigo> someone work or knows data structure in java?
[02:34] <BluesKaj> elite101, hmm , somethng tells me you need a diversion for a while :)
[02:34] <elite101> what?
[02:34] <elite101> i didnt say anything like ohh i dunno 15mins ago?
[02:34] <winbond> why does my irc keep disconnecting?
[02:35] <Arwen> gah, doesn't amarok have any audio filtering capabilities?
[02:35] <FrankH> <-- frustrated with amarok
[02:36] <FrankH> have to keep setting podcasts folder
[02:38] <drif> should vmware-player run no probs on feisty?
[02:39] <drif> more like, should it install without problems
[02:40] <winbond> who is the channel operator?
[02:40] <Biovore> I use vmware workstation here..
[02:40] <Biovore> works fine..
[02:40] <Biovore> various people..
[02:40] <Biovore> There watching in the shadows..
[02:41] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to resize a partition, parted keeps saying it has an incompatible feature enabled but doesn't tell me what that feature is. How do I find out?
[02:41] <intelikey> anyone know sshd_conf well enough to tell me if  ListenAddress will allow 192.168.0.0/16 or 192.168.*.*   or exactly what format the addressing needs to be in ?
[02:41] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[02:41] <Biovore> intelikey: I use too.. I ussualy just setup iptables to allow ssh from target networks..
[02:42] <intelikey> Biovore ;/
[02:42] <tekstacy> Yay, fresh install, on a brand new laptop. I feel all manly n sh*t
[02:42] <elite101> lol
[02:42] <elite101> u mean geeky
[02:43] <tekstacy> Yeak, that works
[02:43] <elite101> what kinda laptop?
[02:43] <Lopin> !scanning
[02:43] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:43] <elite101> Scanning?
[02:43] <tekstacy> Gateway, C2 (1.6G ea), 1g ram
[02:44] <elite101> 1.6Ghz on each core?
[02:44] <elite101> 3.2Ghz lappy?
[02:44] <tekstacy> yeh, they advertise it as a 3.2ghz machine
[02:44] <xbehave> i get an xauth error and cant login, any ideas? (my home is on a second (ext3) partition
[02:45] <Biovore> is it mounted?
[02:45] <Biovore> and do you have permission to write to it?
[02:45] <tekstacy> replaces the a64 I broke last week. I miss that machine...  :(
[02:45] <Arwen> elite101, only to well multi-threaded processes
[02:45] <xbehave> yes and yes
[02:45] <elite101> tekstacy, thats like 1..2..3...4...5..6...7.times faster than my Desktop
[02:45] <Arwen> otherwise it's still only 1.6GHz
[02:45] <Daisuke-Laptop> me smashes his svideo-out
[02:45] <elite101> but they have 2cores?
[02:46] <xbehave> everything looks fine when i browse it from a console login
[02:46] <elite101> so its 3.2Ghz? no
[02:46] <Arwen> ...no
[02:46] <Arwen> it's 2x 1.6GHz
[02:46] <gridl0ck> no
[02:46] <Arwen> there's a BIG difference
[02:46] <elite101> ahh so it would still go 3.2Ghz
[02:46] <Arwen> ....no
[02:46] <elite101> k i get what u mean
[02:46] <xbehave> only if its doing two things
[02:46] <elite101> yeah
[02:46] <hydrogen> no
[02:46] <tekstacy> it's not EXACTLY like having 2 1.6 machines, because they share the same cache
[02:46] <hydrogen> two things would be done at 1.6GHZ
[02:46] <hydrogen> each
[02:46] <elite101> is there a single core 3.2Ghz?
[02:47] <elite101> :) i hope
[02:47] <tekstacy> yes
[02:47] <elite101> how much?
[02:47] <Arwen> yes, Xeon Clovertowns for one
[02:47] <elite101> 200$?
[02:47] <Arwen> 2x 3.2 GHz
[02:47] <Arwen> up to 4x
[02:47] <elite101> :) i would be happy
[02:47] <elite101> Core 2x four'oh
[02:48] <elite101> four prossecor all four have doucore each
[02:48] <Arwen> quick test: take a 3.2GHz CPU and a 2x1.6GHz CPU of the same architecture. Run a test. The 3.2GHz one will be ridiculously faster.
[02:48] <elite101> yeah
[02:48] <elite101> cuz the other one is usuing only one core
[02:48] <elite101> wich is clocked @ 1.6Ghz
[02:48] <Arwen> yep, and even if you multi-thread it, there's overhead from managing them
[02:48] <elite101> and the other pc is ussing the whole 3.2Ghz
[02:48] <Daisuke-Laptop> elite101: unless you're using windows
[02:48] <elite101> :) i get it now
[02:48] <elite101> yeha
[02:49] <Daisuke-Laptop> but that's beside the point, there's overhead no matter what
[02:49] <elite101> then both cores are used cuz its like when windoze idles @ 35% cpu usage
[02:49] <elite101> :) wich it feels liek
[02:49] <Arwen> if your Windows idles at 35% CPU, it's time to virusscan :-P
[02:49] <tekstacy> This machine came with Vista
[02:49] <Daisuke-Laptop> i just want my svideo to work (either here OR on my gf's windows laptop)
[02:50] <elite101> I wanna have a Quad prossecor.. so 4 prossecors and each of them has 2cores :)
[02:50] <elite101> each prossecor @-3.2Ghz
[02:50] <Arwen> no, a Quad core is 4 cores
[02:50] <tekstacy> But I ran one of the free "Vista Upgrade" discks I have been passing out to my friends, and here I am
[02:50] <elite101> yeah but i mean a Quad Prosscor
[02:50] <Arwen> you can have 2 quad cores, but that's just overkill
[02:50] <elite101> prossecor*
[02:51] <elite101> yeah wel it wouldnt make 10Ghz cuz yeah..
[02:51] <elite101> they would all have to be running
[02:51] <gridl0ck> without destroying my u3 usb key - is there anyway to read it in kubuntu?
[02:51] <elite101> so wich one should i get a Dou core 2.4Ghz chip or a single core 3.9Ghz chip
[02:51] <elite101> sorry 3.2*
[02:51] <tekstacy> grid, open it on a windows machine, disable the u3
[02:51] <Arwen> gridl0ck, hmm? A U3 key consists of a standard FAT partition and a hidden ISO read-only one.
[02:51] <elite101> 2.4Ghz dou or 3.2Ghz single?
[02:52] <elite101> wich one is better?
[02:52] <Biovore> depends.. you running stuff that can do multithread.
[02:52] <Arwen> best way to fix it is to boot Windows and run the U3 uninstaller
[02:52] <TheRealInsane> Hey
[02:52] <gridl0ck> i realize that - question is it only mounts the FAT partition
[02:52] <Arwen> elite101, the dual-core in most cases since you rarely do 1 thing and only 1 thing.
[02:52] <TheRealInsane> I acn't test it right now, so can anybody tell me if telnet exists on linux?
[02:52] <Arwen> it does
[02:52] <Arwen> telnet ip port
[02:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> telnet exists on everything :)
[02:52] <Arwen> e.g. telnet irc.freenode.net 6667
[02:52] <TheRealInsane> Arwen, if you leave away the port, what does it default to?
[02:52] <Biovore> yup
[02:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> 23
[02:53] <TheRealInsane> Ok, thanks
[02:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> (default telnet port
[02:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> )
[02:53] <TheRealInsane> Yeah
[02:53] <TheRealInsane> xD
[02:53] <TheRealInsane> cya
[02:53] <elite101> i wanna get the 3.2Ghz chip cuz its faster
[02:53] <elite101> and i can brag :)
[02:53] <gridl0ck> arwen: is there anyway to mount the hidden iso?
[02:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> is it netburst?
[02:53] <Arwen> not really
[02:53] <intelikey> telnet exists on everything ???      intelikey looks for telnet on his box
[02:53] <gridl0ck> ok
[02:53] <Arwen> you wouldn't want to anyway
[02:54] <Daisuke-Laptop> intelikey: you don't have a telnet client?
[02:54] <gridl0ck> i need to pull some data off it - hate to mount a win32 system just to get 1 doc
[02:54] <Arwen> all the data is on the FAT part
[02:54] <Arwen> the ISO is just the U3 software
[02:54] <gridl0ck> na, other way round
[02:54] <gridl0ck> fat contains the u3
[02:54] <Biovore> yeah..  the U3 is gay..
[02:54] <intelikey> Daisuke-Laptop actually i do  but i installed it because of a script i wrote that grabs certian wether information.
[02:55] <gridl0ck> i have it in now
[02:55] <Daisuke-Laptop> then there you go
[02:55] <gridl0ck> u3 is less likely to turn gay - it has it's advantages over normal usb keys biovore
[02:55] <intelikey> Daisuke-Laptop but i wasn't on this box for a while.
[02:55] <Biovore> gridl0ck: yes.. it crashes shit...
[02:55] <intelikey> and can easily be removed
[02:55] <Arwen> gridl0ck, it doesn't, the actual software is on ISO, the drive's firmware remaps it so you can see it though
[02:55] <Biovore> and spreads virues automaticly
[02:55] <Daisuke-Laptop> gridl0ck: you can't use it in linux, how is that an "advantage"?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> yes , we musn't forget our brollies :)
[02:56] <Arwen> U3 is proprietary crap :-\
[02:56] <Biovore> crashes virtual machines..
[02:56] <gridl0ck> well on a win32 it has it's advantages if that makes it better
[02:56] <gridl0ck> ;p
[02:56] <Biovore> installing shit my box.. is not an advantage..
[02:56] <Daisuke-Laptop> gridl0ck: notice, this isn't ##windows, there won't be many converts to u3 here :D
[02:57] <Daisuke-Laptop> give me a vfat formatted usb drive
[02:57] <Biovore> give me a ext3 formated usb drive :-P
[02:57] <gridl0ck> wasn't asking to convert daisuke-laptop -- was asking if there was a way to read the u3
[02:57] <Daisuke-Laptop> that right there is all you need for compatibility and portability :)
[02:57] <gridl0ck> glad ppl follow conversations
[02:57] <Biovore> err yes..
[02:57] <gridl0ck> so defensive
[02:57] <intelikey> ext2 here please  :)
[02:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> gridl0ck: heed your own advice.  you said "on win32", i said, "this isn't windows"
[02:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> you're the one that jumped.
[02:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> it has zero advantages in linux, and my question to you is: if you don't want to get an xp machine up and running to get to the U3, why keep the U3 in the first place?
[02:59] <intelikey> children !   play nice, or go to your rooms.
[02:59] <Biovore> yes mommy :-)
[03:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> Biovore and intelikey: i chose vfat because i do work in the computer labs on campus, and they are, by necessity of pandering to the LCD, running windows :)
[03:00] <Biovore> yeah.. your stuck dealing with windows..
[03:00] <winston> hi Biovore
[03:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> i don't like it :(
[03:01] <Biovore> rgr
[03:01] <Daisuke-Laptop> i do have an ext2-formatted 512mb usb drive, but that's gone out of service since i can just use nfs between the laptops and desktop :)
[03:01] <allen_> hi hi
[03:01] <allen_> !themes
[03:01] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:01] <Jucato> !changethemes | allen_
[03:01] <ubotu> allen_: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[03:02] <allen_> ty
[03:04] <gridl0ck> so you know daisuke-laptop - i found my answer without your help, i didn't ask ppl their opinions of a u3 usb key - i asked for support, for those that willing to answer me it was appreciated - in order to read the u3 usb key for your own reference - "a simple diable security feature" would have suffice ;p
[03:04] <gridl0ck> disable*
[03:05] <gridl0ck> sorry for the typos
[03:05] <Daisuke-Laptop> you weren't given opinion, you were given fact.  u3 is proprietary crash-prone crap.
[03:06] <Daisuke-Laptop> but i'm dropping it now and going back to getting this working
[03:06] <gridl0ck> no daisuke-laptop - learn the difference between supporting users and giving your 2 cents - anyway drop it
[03:08] <intelikey> gridl0ck btw, supporting users != supporting M$
[03:08] <Daisuke-Laptop> prone to crashing...  fact.  proprietary...  good hard solid fact.  useless...  opinion, i'll give you that one, you sly boots
[03:08] <gridl0ck> i wasn't asking for ms support intelikey
[03:08] <Daisuke-Laptop> you're asking for u3 support.
[03:09] <gridl0ck> no i was asking for kubuntu support reading the u3
[03:09] <Daisuke-Laptop> six/half dozen
[03:09] <gridl0ck> get off it already
[03:10] <intelikey> what the blind can't see the deaf don't like to hear about
[03:10] <Daisuke-Laptop> intelikey...  so...  does that make gridl0ck...  Helen Keller?
[03:11] <Daisuke-Laptop> okay, i'm done for real this time.  back to jbuilder
[03:11] <Daisuke-Laptop> (btw, confused pauses don't work well on irc)
[03:11] <winbond> who is the channel operator?
[03:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> what do you need?
[03:12] <intelikey> winbond /j #ubuntu-ops
[03:13] <Daisuke-Laptop> yep, we're still here
[03:15] <flaccid> what is u3
[03:19] <kary> Is there a channel for kubuntu gutsy questions?  i know there is a ubuntu+1 chan, but this is kde specific
[03:19] <intelikey> this is odd,  i can't ping my gateway box  but i can access the inet through it just fine...   err second gateway.
[03:19] <intelikey> kary no
[03:19] <intelikey> kary but ask anyway
[03:20] <kary> intelikey: well, i was wondering if everyone else was getting weird k-menu entries for programs off install.  it's happened the last couple of tribe releases
[03:20] <flaccid> there is also #kde
[03:21] <kary> yeah, but i don't think this is kde specific
[03:21] <intelikey> ?
 Is there a channel for kubuntu gutsy questions?  i know there is a ubuntu+1 chan, but this is kde specific<kary> yeah, but i don't think this is kde specific
[03:22] <kary> let me rephrase
[03:22] <kary> heh
[03:22] <kary> it's kubuntu's implementation of it
[03:22] <intelikey> stop talking through your hat
[03:22] <kary> for example, under multimedia in k-menu, amarok is listed as "_:Entries in K-menu: Amarok app name, Audio Player descri...."
[03:23] <kary> and random dialog boxes, instead of "OK" as a button has something like "_:verb:OK"
[03:23] <kary> any new kde applications installed are fine, it's only apps installed off of the kubuntu install.
[03:23] <kary> so no one else has seen this?
[03:24] <flaccid> err #ubuntu+1
[03:24] <kary> ok
[03:24] <Biovore> isn't there a #kubuntu+1 channel around?
[03:24] <flaccid> nope
[03:24] <kary> i just joined it, its empty
[03:25] <Jucato> Biovore: nope. you could try in #kubuntu-devel but most gutsy questions are fielded in #ubuntu+1
[03:25] <intelikey> Biovore hit and miss   there were a few in there one time.   but generally if you join kubuntu+1 you is owner of channel
[03:26] <Jucato> #ubntu+1 is for all *buntus
[03:27] <intelikey> winbond you asked about the client closing    maybe your firewall wont allow ping requests ?
[03:28] <winbond> intelikey: i dont have a firewall (i think i dont) maybe the router is messed up
[03:31] <winbond> intelikey: i have the anonymous ping requests blocked, would this be a anon ping?
[03:32] <flaccid> winbond: yes
[03:33] <flaccid> ping = icmp echo request
[03:33] <flaccid> also called anonymous * requests on some soho routers
[03:33] <freeman> request
[03:33] <mrksbrd> has anyone ever ran into not being able to run install from live cd, but alt cd has no problem????
[03:33] <intelikey> winbond yes,  if freenode can't ping you then you get dropped
[03:34] <intelikey> mrksbrd some  yes
[03:35] <mrksbrd> what would cause it, same cd works on my laptop, but get to the same point on desktop & kicks back an error
[03:36] <elite101> anyone ever heard of a .PRX file befor?
[03:37] <mrksbrd> i get some kind of tty error
[03:37] <mrksbrd> elite....nope
[03:38] <flaccid> google tells you file extensions
[03:38] <flaccid> and first result : http://filext.com/file-extension/PRX
[03:38] <mrksbrd> http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/prx
[03:38] <intelikey> mrksbrd this is just a wild guess, but; it could be either a bug, or a glitch in the programming, or possably even some bad code somewhere...       :)))
[03:39] <mrksbrd> but why would it work on one computer and not another
[03:39] <flaccid> need to cite the error, mrksbrd
[03:39] <intelikey> cause the hardware is different ?
[03:40] <intelikey> i thought that was obious
[03:40] <intelikey> obvious
[03:40] <prak> does anyone know how to mount an external hard drive in kubuntu that is formatted in ntfs format in windows?
[03:40] <intelikey> dubious ?
[03:40] <mrksbrd> yea ........duh!!!! sorry dumb ?
[03:41] <flaccid> !ntfs | prak
[03:41] <ubotu> prak: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:41] <flaccid> prak: basically just need the ntfs support then its the same as any other fs
[03:42] <prak> !ntfs
[03:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:43] <unique>  what type of securty is recommened when using a p2p prog? eg.. ip blocker...
[03:44] <hitmanWilly> unique, i'd say connect it on a non-standard port
[03:44] <flaccid> unique: security is the responsibility of the p2p client
[03:44] <shadowhywind> hay all have a problem, and don't know where else to go to. I have a program (ut2004), that I can not alt-tab to switch to another program from. Any ideas?
[03:45] <flaccid> shadowhywind: thats normal
[03:45] <hitmanWilly> shadowhywind, it's disabled since ut takes over the keyboard
[03:45] <shadowhywind> is there anyway to reenable?
[03:45] <flaccid> shadowhywind: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=440391
[03:46] <unique> ok lets sey i was downloading a movie and dident want the mpaa to see me what whould i use to block them from viewing my ip?
[03:46] <shadowhywind> ctrl-g.... interesting...
[03:46] <unique> like in windows there a prog called peer gardian
[03:46] <flaccid> unique: you can't do anything
[03:47] <shadowhywind> what do you know. That will semi work
[03:47] <hitmanWilly> unique, tor maybe
[03:47] <flaccid> lol peer guardian. im sure it doesn't do what it claims.
[03:47] <flaccid> unique: and thats not security, thats evasion...
[03:47] <shadowhywind> Thanks flaccid and hitmanWilly for the help
[03:48] <flaccid> peer guardian just looks like a packet filter
[03:48] <flaccid> you could use iptables or privoxy to do the same thing probably
[03:48] <flaccid> might also wanna checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoBlock
[03:48] <flaccid> !info moblock
[03:48] <ubotu> Package moblock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:48] <intelikey> unique well first you wouldn't want to go to an irc channel and ask how to do things that would draw the attention of said parties,  secondly anything that </cough> i might sujest can be easily circumvented.   so ....
[03:49] <flaccid> also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtoWall
[03:49] <unique> k ty
[03:50] <reldruh> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm having a problem with rsync. I'm trying to backup a folder on my computer to my server. This works fine as long as I use my user on both computers but I'm trying to back these up to the home folder of a different user on the server and I get permission denied errors for all folders I'm trying to backup. The command I'm using is this: rsync -r -v /home/me/sendingfolder 
[03:50] <matthew_> reldruh, if you're doing it to a remote server, you should probably just have rsync be a cron job that logs into your desktop computer with the various usernames...
[03:51] <matthew_> and, of course, backs up your stuff
[03:51] <reldruh> matthew_: the desktop computer only has my user
[03:51] <muahaha> hi, im looking for a hardware channel
[03:51] <underdog5004> reldruh, oh, you've got a different username on your server?
[03:51] <underdog5004> !compatibility
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compatibility - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <reldruh> underdog5004, the same username for me, but my friend just has an account on the server, not on my desktop and I'm trying to back up stuff to her account
[03:52] <underdog5004> muahaha, there are linux compatibility lists online, if that's what you need
[03:52] <reldruh> from my desktop
[03:53] <Aranel> Hey, the #kubuntu-offtopic channel says "You're banned" , why  I'm banned ? I didn't joined the channel, this is my first time.
[03:53] <muahaha> 10x underdog5004, but I have a graphics card installation problem :p
[03:53] <underdog5004> reldruh, hmmm... rsync --whatever-options hername@heripaddress:/path/to/files username-on-server@serverip:/path/to/filess
[03:53] <underdog5004> muahaha, oh, what kind of card?
[03:53] <underdog5004> reldruh, think that will work?
[03:54] <underdog5004> reldruh, what I've got is my server logs into each computer on my network with whatever username and rsyncs data from them to itself.
[03:55] <reldruh> underdog5004, I'll give it a shot, one second
[03:55] <underdog5004> ok
[03:55] <prak> flaccid: i've managed to mount my hard drive, but I can't access it
[03:55] <muahaha> xfx geforce 7600gs
[03:55] <reldruh> underdog5004, I get a syntax error when I try to do 2 remote locations, even though one is the computer I'm on now
[03:56] <underdog5004> reldruh, try doing it from your server
[03:56] <underdog5004> so, say you're on your server: rsync hername@heripaddress:/path/to/files path/to/destination/
[03:56] <flaccid> prak: can't access it?
[03:56] <flaccid> what does that mean
[03:57] <underdog5004> muahaha, have you tried getting the driver from nvidia.com?
[03:58] <flaccid> prak: i suggest you read: In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
[03:58] <flaccid> oops
[03:59] <muahaha> underdog5004:  I think is more a BIOS config issue or a mobo compatibility, I cant get any video since the boot o_O
[03:59] <flaccid> oops i mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-2a64a964ff8833576586c7216a1199f022c505a6
[03:59] <reldruh> underdog5004, no good. I get a 'connection unexpectedly closed' error
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> muahaha, you may try disabling the onboard video in bios
[03:59] <underdog5004> reldruh, that happens when there's an incomplete backup
[04:00] <prak> prak: i don't want my data in the hard drive that got formated in windows to be wiped out
[04:00] <prak> i meant flaccid
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> muahaha, assuming you have it
[04:00] <underdog5004> reldruh, delete all folders that you've tried to back up
[04:00] <reldruh> underdog5004, it happens instantaneously and I used verbose and got nothing
[04:00] <unique> what is freenode
[04:00] <underdog5004> reldruh, I had the same problem with rdiff-backup, but I can't remember the solution...google it!
[04:01] <Daisuke-Laptop> unique: freenode is the network you're on right now
[04:01] <flaccid> prak: why would it be wiped out?
[04:01] <flaccid> !fuse
[04:01] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[04:01] <flaccid> !ntfs-3g > | prak
[04:01] <sanzanric> !kernel
[04:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:01] <prak> flaccid: i've already installed ntfs-3g
[04:01] <prak> but i still can't open my hard drive
[04:02] <unique> ok what would you take this for " <intelikey> please don't get me into more paper work on you...   thanks."
[04:02] <flaccid> prak: would you mind being specific. i can't read minds.
[04:02] <prak> flaccid: what kind of detail would you like to know?
[04:02] <v1> hi everyone
[04:02] <muahaha> hitmanWilly:  yep I have it, As I read at the mobo manual, selecting AGP as primary graph something on board video is disabled
[04:02] <flaccid> prak: the error returned at least...
[04:03] <flaccid> prak: do you have the right masks set, or did you just ignore reading the link
[04:03] <muahaha> (BTW sorry about my poor english 2nd language)  :p
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> muahaha, did you do that, then?
[04:03] <muahaha> yep I did it
[04:03] <prak> which link, flaccid?
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, weird
[04:03] <prak> the ntfs-3g link?
[04:03] <flaccid> ffs
[04:03] <flaccid> read all the ones i pasted
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> muahaha, as I remember, agp is a little weird on drivers
[04:04] <flaccid> prak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-2a64a964ff8833576586c7216a1199f022c505a6
[04:04] <flaccid> please read what we paste for you, otherwise you are wasting both our times
[04:04] <winbond> whats the name of that photoshop like thing for linux?
[04:04] <Daisuke-Laptop> the gimp
[04:04] <muahaha> u think is a driver issue since I even cant get the card setted?
[04:04] <muahaha> gimp
[04:04] <winbond> ohh, yeah, thanks
[04:04] <faires> winbond: GIMP
[04:05] <winbond> is that in the repos?
[04:05] <Jucato> yes
[04:05] <winbond> k, ty
[04:05] <hitmanWilly> muahaha, not sure, went straight from pci to pci-e
[04:05] <muahaha> ok
[04:05] <faires> Hehehehe
[04:05] <muahaha> Maybe I need to upgrade all the CPU
[04:05] <muahaha> :p
[04:05] <Tm_T> Jucato: no, GIMP is "gimp-like"
[04:05] <faires> Maybe some GIMP developers will be mad... ;)
[04:05] <prak> flaccid: should i read up on the FUSE link too?
[04:05] <Jucato> faires: some or all :)
[04:06] <flaccid> gimp is just as good as ps.. you just have to learn it.. lots of tutorials
[04:06] <Jucato> Tm_T: heh yeah :)
[04:06] <flaccid> prak: read up on the masks. read it all.
[04:06] <v1> any malaysian here
[04:06] <v1> selamat merdeka 50
[04:06] <muahaha> but this one works ok, with the graph card should fly lol
[04:06] <Jucato> !my
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <Jucato> bah no malaysian channel..
[04:07] <faires> Jucato: otoh, they probably will not be here, since they tend to use a GTK-based WM... :)
[04:07] <v1> is it?
[04:07] <faires> Jucato: although the brazilian guy that works on GIMP uses KDE... :)
[04:07] <Jucato> O.o
[04:07] <Jucato> ah the ironies of life
[04:08] <faires> Hehehehe
[04:08] <faires> It's funny to see him working on GIMP code on a KDE... :)
[04:08] <LogicalDash> I moved my Ubuntu partition and now Grub's giving me error 22 and not letting me boot. Anything I can do?
[04:09] <flaccid> !fixboot
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <faires> Does someone knows any software at the repository that opens .gp5 (Guitar Pro) files?
[04:09] <flaccid> !fixgrub
[04:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:09] <flaccid> you can try that LogicalDash, but its most likely a dif problem
[04:09] <unique> whats a good gui for a firewall
[04:09] <flaccid> LogicalDash: see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/749 and  http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=grub+error+22+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[04:10] <LogicalDash> thanks flaccid
[04:10] <wckdkl0wn> what is a good gui ftp client for kubuntu?
[04:10] <faires> wckdkl0wn: konqueror... :)
[04:10] <flaccid> wckdkl0wn: krusader or kftpgrabber
[04:10] <faires> Oh, maybe flaccid's right.
[04:11] <faires> Does someone knows any software at the repository that opens .gp5 (Guitar Pro) files?
[04:11] <Mr_Sonoma> wckdkl0wn, i use kftpgrabber
[04:12] <frindou> hello
[04:12] <wckdkl0wn> Mr_Sonoma: does it suport queues?
[04:12] <unique> whats a good gui for a firewall?
[04:13] <flaccid> it supports queues yes
[04:13] <flaccid> !firestarter > unique
[04:13] <frindou> #ubuntu-fr
[04:13] <winbond> how can i turn off the single click to open?
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse
[04:14] <Jucato> winbond: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[04:14] <Jucato> pfft :P
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> W00t! I win!
[04:14] <Jucato> yours is incomplete :)
[04:15] <winbond> yay, i guess im not the only one that got annoyed by it
[04:15] <nicatron> Erm, where does ndiswrapper install to?
[04:15] <Dragnslcr> Eh, I figured it should be obvious from there
[04:16] <flaccid> nicatron: try a which ndiswrapper or whereis ndiswrapper
[04:16] <muahaha> single clickin is annoying
[04:16] <winbond> why do i disconnect every time the server sends [CTCP]  Received Version request from freenode-connect?
[04:16] <nicatron> kk
[04:16] <flaccid> nicatron: i you look in apt:/show?ndiswrapper-common in konqueror it will give you file list
[04:17] <reldruh> underdog5004: I don't know if you're interested but I ended up getting around the problem by copying the pictures to a folder I own on my server then sudo mv'd them to her folder and changed the ownership of them to her manually. In the future these backups will be done from her computer so I think it'll be OK
[04:17] <Mr_Sonoma> wckdkl0wn, i dont know never tried. most the time i ftp im ftp'n up to a homepage that i've made so its not like its big files
[04:18] <nicatron> hmmm
[04:25] <Daisuke-Laptop> eclipse seems quite lovely
[04:37] <GuyFromHell> Anyone have link to site or want to help me set up a camera that's not in the list in digikam
[04:38] <GuyFromHell> nevermind found it ;)
[04:38] <GuyFromHell> (hurray manual pages)
[04:43] <dthacker-lt> hello folks
[04:44] <winbond> why do i disconnect every time the server sends [CTCP]  Received Version request from freenode-connect?
[04:47] <flaccid> winbond: we don't know. could be anything. its not a normal problem..
[04:47] <flaccid> its possible you are not sending one back
[04:47] <flaccid> winbond: you should ask in #freenode-social
[04:49] <unique_> FIRESTARTER WORKS ON KKKKKKKKKKDE
[04:49] <Jucato> !caps
[04:49] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:49] <flaccid> unique_: i'd be worried if it didn't..
[04:49] <unique_> sorry
[04:50] <unique_> ty
[04:50] <elpez> i cant seem to upgrade my java... i thought i installed version 1.6 but java -version still returns 1.4.2
[04:50] <elpez> can anyone help?
[04:51] <flaccid> elpez: probably need to update-alternatives
[04:51] <flaccid> !java | elpez
[04:51] <ubotu> elpez: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:51] <flaccid> please follow the above guide
[04:51] <elpez> thanks
[04:51] <flaccid> np
[04:52] <valli> hey every one ! ....i have a problem ... my audio doesn't work ... alsamixer and hardware works fine ... and also in Windows ..
[04:52] <valli> any idea ?
[04:53] <flaccid> !sound | valli
[04:53] <ubotu> valli: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:54] <valli> thank's for while
[04:54] <Access> Greetings all
[04:55] <Access> Im having difficulty connecting a Windows machine and my Ubuntu machine.
[04:55] <Access> Vista machine to be specific
[04:55] <flaccid> !samba
[04:55] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:56] <flaccid> Access: which protocol, what is the specific problem
[04:56] <Access> Well I set up a share on my Ubuntu machine which automatically installed samba for me.
[04:56] <Access> I set it to read/write access
[04:57] <Access> Then I right-click properties on it and set everything to allow create-delete files etc etc
[04:57] <Access> On all three groups
[04:57] <Access> however then I go to the windows machine.
[04:57] <Access> try to access my machine by going
[04:57] <Access> /access
[04:57] <Access> it asks for a password
[04:57] <Access> And none seem to work
[04:57] <Access> shane@access
[04:57] <Access> with password doesnt work
[04:57] <Access> as does
[04:57] <Access> /access/shane
[04:58] <flaccid> did you read the above 2 guides
[04:58] <radioaktivstorm> hi, knetworkmanager seems to have broken my automatic configureation
[04:58] <Access> Not yet, will do so now was just answering your question
[04:58] <radioaktivstorm> any suggestions on how to repair it
[04:58] <radioaktivstorm> ?
[04:59] <flaccid> Access: sweet
[04:59] <flaccid> radioaktivstorm: not really. i've observed problems with it since it was put on to ubuntu
[04:59] <flaccid> radioaktivstorm: what is the problem , specifically
[05:00] <radioaktivstorm> well i couldnt connect to an open network.. you know like airports starbucks those kind. so i tried to do a manual config with the ip that worked in windows and it not does not let me automatically detect the wireless networks  and stuff
[05:02] <flaccid> have you confirmed that wireless actually works?
[05:02] <radioaktivstorm> flaccid, ive beenusing the wireless for several months
[05:02] <lavacano201014> i had installed beryl and GNOME to compliment my KDE in Kubuntu (what? i was feeling adventurous). I ran beryl in my GNOME session and it has gone completely white. wouldnt be a problem if it didnt seem locked that way. Any reason why this happened?
[05:03] <flaccid> radioaktivstorm: you would have to diagnose manually. something i don't have time to go through with you. learn how to use iwconfig and iwlist commands ..
[05:04] <Access> Hey my preffered text editor is vi but it doesnt seem to recognise my keyboard properly, which I found odd, since the rest of Ubuntu is working fine?
[05:04] <radioaktivstorm> alright flaccid. i was afraid it would be somethign a bit more dedicated.... i'll attend to it when i have a bit more  time and energy
[05:04] <radioaktivstorm> thanks though
[05:04] <Soulwarp> Hello, I'm having problems getting my dual boot to work with 2 seperate HD
[05:04] <lavacano201014> Access: ive always solved that with a reboot or two
[05:05] <Access> Really?
[05:05] <flaccid> lol
[05:05] <Soulwarp> I'm using Grub
[05:05] <job424> I'm having issues getting ndiswrapper installed on kubuntu... any help?
[05:05] <lavacano201014> Soulwarp: whats it doing?
[05:05] <Access> Is grub a better text editor?
[05:05] <lavacano201014> GRUB is a boot manager?
[05:05] <mrigns> Access, grub is't a editor
[05:05] <Access> oh
[05:05] <Access> :D
[05:05] <lavacano201014> i mean "boot manager."
[05:06] <lavacano201014> but still, what the heck is beryl doing to me?
[05:06] <Access> Well can anyone recommend a text editor I can use besides vi for the mean time?
[05:06] <intelikey> grub is an OS
[05:06] <flaccid> !ndiswrapper | job424
[05:06] <ubotu> job424: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:06] <Access> One thats installed I mean
[05:06] <lavacano201014> !beryl-errors
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl-errors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <kary> Access: nano is my fav
[05:06] <flaccid> lavacano201014: #ubuntu-effects
[05:06] <Access> nano okay will use that
[05:06] <lavacano201014> ok thanks flaccid
[05:06] <lavacano201014> !kate
[05:06] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[05:06] <Soulwarp> lavacano201014 i have windows on one HD as slave and Linux on the other as master. I can't remember the exact error but it will not boot my slave from grub
[05:06] <dotz> hi, why is it that after upgrading to feisty, things in /etc/rc.local isn't running at boot up?
[05:06] <Access> thanks :D
[05:07] <kary> np
[05:07] <lavacano201014> that should solve the text editor thing
[05:07] <Soulwarp> :o
[05:07] <intelikey> Soulwarp chainloader+1 (hd1)  boot ?
[05:08] <Access> Is Pico the same thing as Nano?
[05:08] <Jucato> no
[05:08] <intelikey> Soulwarp can bios boot the slave drive ?
[05:08] <flaccid> is an apple a banana?
[05:08] <Access> Well pico and nano seem to run the same program :S
[05:08] <intelikey> Access pico and nano are the same file on ubuntu systems but they do behave somewhat differently
[05:09] <Soulwarp> intelikey i havn't checked bios, i will do that. and yes i have  chainloader + 1 (d1) boot
[05:09] <Soulwarp> intelikey brb
[05:09] <intelikey> Soulwarp k
[05:09] <Jucato> GNU nano is a free replacement for Pico, the default Pine editor. Pine is copyrighted under a restrictive licence, that makes it unsuitable for Debian's main section. GNU nano is an effort to provide a Pico-like editor, but also includes some features that were missing in the original, such as 'search and replace', 'goto line' or internationalization support.
[05:09] <Jucato> Access: ^^^
[05:10] <Access> Ahhhh thankyou so much Jucato
[05:10] <Access> That clears that up
[05:10] <intelikey> Jucato ls -l `which pico` `which nano`
[05:10] <Access> At Uni we used Pine, Vi and Pico a fair bit.
[05:10] <Access> Actually we didnt call it vi we called it vim
[05:10] <dotz> hi, why is it that after upgrading to feisty, things in /etc/rc.local isn't running at boot up?
[05:10] <hydrogen> vim++
[05:10] <flaccid> i use joe
[05:10] <flaccid> !info joe
[05:11] <ubotu> joe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5-1.1 (feisty), package size 357 kB, installed size 1148 kB
[05:11] <intelikey> vi != vim
[05:11] <Jucato> intelikey: because nano is meant to be a free replacement for pico. but it is not the same as pico...
[05:11] <Jucato> similar probably, but not pico
[05:11] <dotz> does anyone knows about rc.local ?
[05:11] <Access> Is Vi harder to use then Vim?
[05:11] <hydrogen> its less featureful
[05:11] <intelikey> Jucato yes i know.  just clearing up that pico and nano are one on ubuntu systems
[05:11] <hydrogen> personally I use ed for day to day word processing
[05:11] <hydrogen> call me weird but!
[05:11] <hydrogen> !info pico
[05:11] <ubotu> Package pico does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:12] <Jucato> hydrogen: you're weird :)
[05:12] <hydrogen> its your sanity :)
[05:12] <hydrogen> Amarok is a bit crazy you know
[05:12] <hydrogen> ed++
[05:12] <dotz> isit true that whatever i put in /etc/rc.local it will run when i start up my comp?
[05:12] <Access> Damn i felt cool cause I could use Vi :P Now I learn I can only use its little brother VIM
[05:12] <Access> :P
[05:13] <hydrogen> mm
[05:13] <hydrogen> ed's still more awesome
[05:13] <hydrogen> I have to say
[05:13] <Access> Okay, maybe this might be an easy question..... playing DVD's....
[05:14] <hydrogen> !dvd
[05:14] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:14] <Access> I installed VLC
[05:14] <flaccid> dotz: pretty much. its runlevel based
[05:14] <intelikey> odd,   ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.1 port 22: No route to host
[05:14] <intelikey> but 192.168.0.1 is between me and the world
[05:14] <dotz> alright, how do i run something when feisty start up?
[05:14] <flaccid> intelikey: check netstat -r
[05:14] <Access> Wow ubotu knows everything.
[05:15] <Access> does it answer any question? :P
[05:15] <dotz> flaccid: rc.local load on which runlevel?
[05:15] <intelikey> flaccid for ?
[05:15] <flaccid> dotz: can't remember, probably default
[05:15] <Access> !needsawomen
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needsawomen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <Soulwarp> im back, yes the bios is reading my second HD as slave
[05:15] <flaccid> intelikey: see that the route is correct for that subnet
[05:15] <flaccid> bb
[05:15] <Soulwarp> i wrote down the error
[05:15] <intelikey> drif i don't compile kernels much  but no not normally
[05:16] <Soulwarp> Error1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist
[05:16] <dotz> flaccid: ok so how do i run something when it boots?
[05:16] <Tomasu> is there a way to try kde4 apps inside kde3 simply? I installed okular and its dependancies, but I'm getting a error about missing libwalletclient.so.4 lib..
[05:16] <intelikey> flaccid heh   if i do  ifdown eth0  i can then ping 192.168.0.1  :)
[05:17] <Soulwarp> i get the error when trying to load my slave drive with Grub
[05:17] <intelikey> so it's my multi-stack networking...
[05:17] <andresj> Tomasu: you probably need kdelibs5 or kdepimlibs...
[05:18] <intelikey> Soulwarp but can bios boot the drive ?
[05:18] <Tomasu> andresj: which should be dependencies of the okular package right? It installed kdelibs5..
[05:18] <kubuntunewbie> Okay, so i have done everything correctly to the best of my knowledge and I still can not get Pidgin to install.  Any suggestions?
[05:18] <Tomasu> looks like it missed kdepimlibs5
[05:18] <intelikey> Soulwarp if bios can't boot it then grub can't eitherr
[05:18] <Tomasu> odd
[05:18] <Soulwarp> intelikey it can boot it
[05:19] <Soulwarp> it shows up as i can
[05:19] <flaccid> dotz: put it in the rc.local
[05:19] <Soulwarp> intelikey i'll check the grub manpage
[05:19] <flaccid> intelikey: are you using dhcp on this iface?
[05:19] <dotz> flaccid: but it doesn't work... it worked for edgy..after upgrade to feisty it doesn't
[05:19] <intelikey> Soulwarp showing up in the bios and bios being able to boot it are two entirely different things
[05:19] <andresj> Tomasu, I'm not sure if kdepimlibs is needed (its called kdepimlibs4) but there should be no problems *running* kde4 programs into kde3... now, I'm not sure if kde4 programs could overwrite your ~/.kde directory... don't know how the packages are made.
[05:20] <intelikey> flaccid no, no dhcp
[05:20] <flaccid> intelikey: compare the two routing tables
[05:20] <Tomasu> andresj: the foo4 libs are for kde3...
[05:20] <Soulwarp> intelikey i can try booting it, but it is marked as slave
[05:20] <intelikey> Soulwarp just because the drive is there hardly means it's bootable
[05:20] <flaccid> intelikey: netstat -r when it doesn't work, netstat -r when you down and up the iface and it works
[05:20] <hydrogen> Tomasu: only some of them
[05:20] <Soulwarp> intelikey brb
[05:20] <intelikey> Soulwarp so set bios to boot disk two and see if it boots
[05:20] <andresj> Tomasu, i've seen that kde4 is: kdelibs5 and kdepimlibs4; kde3 is only kdelibs4
[05:21] <Tomasu> hydrogen: well there is a kdepimlibs5, so I assume thats for kde4
[05:21] <kubuntunewbie> I have a floppy disk drive in my computer... what chu got intelikey?
[05:21] <intelikey> flaccid errr ummm  you didn't read my post,  i did NOT ifdown and ifup   i only ifdown eth0  to make it accessable
[05:23] <flaccid> intelikey: fair enough. whatever you did... compare the two route tables...
[05:24] <Access> ahh frig. I deleted the Panel... how do I bring it back :(
[05:24] <Tomasu> well, I'm still getting that missing libkwalletclient.so error, tried both kdepimlibs4 and 5..
[05:24] <intelikey> flaccid i have more than one network and more than one nic    it seems that if  eth0 on this box is up  then it trys to access 192.168.0.1 on eth0  but that address only exists through the gateway on eth1.    i understand what's happening,   and not sure i want to change it right now....  just find it strange that the computer can't find the primary gateway to the internet   yet has full inet access through that same gateway
[05:24] <soulwarp> intelikey my bios just booted my slave drive and i am using that atm
[05:25] <soulwarp> intelikey but i figured grub can do it too
[05:25] <flaccid> intelikey: yeah. compare the route tables. if you do have more than iface than the prob is likely the other iface
[05:25] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: that might be sweet if you were interested in hacking something.  Would make it hard to trace
[05:25] <intelikey> soulwarp ok then fixing grub should be as simple as making sure that the settings are correct in /boot/grub/devices.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:26] <soulwarp> intelikey is there a codebin place i can hyperlink my menu.lst?
[05:26] <intelikey> soulwarp yes seeing that bios can.  then grub can.
[05:26] <Jucato> Tomasu: just a hunch, you have kdelibs5 installed right? try kdelibs5-dev too?
[05:26] <intelikey> hyper link...  no pastebin  to paste it in.
[05:26] <intelikey> !paste
[05:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:26] <soulwarp> intelikeyaha
[05:27] <dr_Willis> 'be sure to give the url of the paste' :) heh heh...
[05:27] <soulwarp> gatta swich back now
[05:27] <soulwarp> on windo$
[05:27] <intelikey> kubuntunewbie heh yeah   but only from the lan side.   i can ping this box just fine from the gateway  lol
[05:27] <Tomasu> Jucato: no change
[05:27] <Jucato> hm..
[05:28] <Access> Drats, at the bottom of the page is the Gnome Panel... I right clicked on it and went "Delete Panel" how do I bring it back? Or did it literally mean delete, and needs to be installed??
[05:28] <kubuntunewbie> intelikey: got any roomates? The would never know it was you!!! ;)
[05:28] <intelikey> lol
[05:29] <kubuntunewbie> now a days who uses computers for anything besides porno anymore?
[05:29] <dotz> i got a serious problem here.. rc.local isn't working for 2-3 computers here installed with feisty.. used to be edgy comps
[05:29] <intelikey> again
[05:30] <Soulwarp> !paste
[05:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:30] <intelikey> upstart .....
[05:31] <flaccid> dotz: pastebin your rc.local please
[05:31] <Soulwarp> intelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35746/
[05:32] <Soulwarp> intelikey im a noob but i have it set up root )hd1,1) instead of (hd0,1) because there is a recovery partition
[05:32] <flaccid> dotz:  read see /etc/init.d/README . meant to use /etc/init.d/ apparantly
[05:33] <flaccid> dotz: see http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/ . google brings these things up faster than asking...
[05:34] <intelikey> Soulwarp thought you said windows was on the slave drive ?
[05:34] <Soulwarp> intelikey im wondering if it should be hd2,3 or something
[05:34] <Soulwarp> intelikey it is
[05:34] <Soulwarp> intelikey im sure it's set up wrong
[05:35] <flaccid> if you have a prob with grub locations, heh just try em all
[05:35] <Soulwarp> flaccid lol
[05:35] <Crell> Hi all.  I have Kubuntu Feisty running on a Thinkpad T61.  I'm trying to get KMilo setup and running.  The install process installed KMilo by default, but there is no control center applet for it.  Service Manager says it's running, but I do not see any way to configure it.
[05:35] <flaccid> or just remember 0 is first drive, 0 is first part iirc
[05:35] <Crell> Any idea where it could be hiding?
[05:35] <intelikey> Soulwarp   127 root            (hd1,1)
[05:36] <flaccid> Crell: see apt:/show?kmilo in konqueror
[05:36] <Soulwarp> intelikey ya i tryed that too
[05:37] <flaccid> Crell: i don't think there is a gui
[05:37] <intelikey> Soulwarp did you try root (hd1)
[05:37] <Soulwarp> intelikey then i changed it back to (hd0,1) and got the same error
[05:37] <intelikey> just boot the drive
[05:37] <Soulwarp> hmm
[05:38] <Soulwarp> intelikey i'll try that
[05:38] <sumguy231> Crell: Try doing a 'kcmshell --list' to see if it shows up there. If not, I don't know. I've never used kmilo before.
[05:38] <sumguy231> If it doesn't then I'd guess it doesn't have a control center module.
[05:38] <intelikey> that should just hand the boot process over to what ever bios booted a while afo
[05:38] <intelikey> ago
[05:39] <intelikey> amo
[05:39] <intelikey> imo
[05:39] <Crell> OK, I didn't know about apt:
[05:39] <intelikey> ergo
[05:39] <Crell> That is <expletive deleted> awesome. :-)
[05:39] <Soulwarp> intelikey rebooting >.<
[05:40] <Soulwarp> :P
[05:40] <Crell> sumguy231: No, doesn't show up there.
[05:41] <Crell> flaccid: The docs I've found say that there is one, and it is even called "Thinkpad".
[05:41] <flaccid> Crell: http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=kmilo
[05:41] <flaccid> jriddell ported. he just lacks doco
[05:42] <Crell> flaccid: Yep, I've seen that page.  I am trying to find where that configuration window is.
[05:42] <Crell> That page references KDE 3.2, though, so it's a wee bit dated. ;-)
[05:42] <flaccid> Crell: yeah jriddell is an ubuntu dev guy
[05:42] <Crell> ok...
[05:44] <Access> okay looking through the guide at;
[05:44] <Access> !dvd
[05:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:44] <Access> I have installed libdvdread3 package
[05:44] <flaccid> Crell: yeah fux me. i would email jriddell or something. or ask in #kde
[05:44] <Access> however the command sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:45] <Crell> Hrm.
[05:45] <flaccid> Crell: actually no #kde . #debian people might know
[05:45] <Access> "command not found"
[05:46] <job424> I'm having issues getting ndiswrapper installed on kubuntu... any help?
[05:46] <Crell> #Debian gets cranky if you even mention [k] ubuntu. :-)
[05:46] <sumguy231> Access: It's at /usr/share/doclibdvdread3/install-css.sh on my system.
[05:46] <Access> Sumguy, thanks will look there. Whats the command in liunx to search for a file?
[05:47] <Access> Just for next time, I mean
[05:47] <Crell> Access: locate
[05:47] <hydrogen> locate isn't instantly updated though
[05:47] <flaccid> Crell: its the same package as on debian... nothing to do with kubuntu
[05:47] <Crell> True.  But I could never understand how to use find. :-)
[05:47] <hydrogen> locate uses find to build a database
[05:47] <flaccid> Access: find
[05:47] <sumguy231> Access: locate is probably what you want
[05:48] <flaccid> find / | grep myfilename.ext
[05:48] <hydrogen> mm
[05:48] <hydrogen> thats a bit silly
[05:48] <flaccid> just do a sudo updatedb then use locate
[05:48] <flaccid> hydrogen: its an example
[05:48] <hydrogen> find / -iname "text"
[05:48] <hydrogen> is better than grepping the output
[05:48] <sumguy231> Errr. I missed the first time that got answered. Oops
[05:48] <flaccid> its merely an example
[05:48] <hydrogen> right
[05:48] <hydrogen> but grepping is not a good example
[05:48] <flaccid> it doesn't matter
[05:48] <hydrogen> thats using a needless pipe
[05:48] <flaccid> this is not #trivial
[05:49] <hydrogen> and a needless process
[05:49] <Access> I can vaguely use grep and awk.... havnt in 10 years though haha
[05:49] <flaccid> kubuntu uses many uneeded processes...
[05:49] <hydrogen> why make a bad suggestion in the first place?
[05:49] <flaccid> hydrogen: its not a bad suggestion
[05:49] <hydrogen> sure it is
[05:49] <flaccid> its merely an example
[05:49] <hydrogen> it needlessly complicates the situation
[05:50] <flaccid> hydrogen: you are complicating things more than me. i suggest you stop.
[05:50] <hydrogen> and as an example it will induce the examplee to do that in the future
[05:50] <hydrogen> when they should use find to do what find does
[05:50] <flaccid> whatever..
[05:50] <hydrogen> anyways Access, man find will tell you all about it :)
[05:51] <Access> Yeah I didnt mean to stir everyone up. :P
[05:51] <Access> Will just man find
[05:51] <Access> :D
[05:51] <hydrogen> find is up to date
[05:51] <hydrogen> however its slow to search
[05:51] <hydrogen> locate is fast to search, but lags behind
[05:52] <flaccid> it doesn't lag if you updatedb
[05:52] <Access> However my DVD playing problem :( "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
[05:52] <hydrogen> find allows you to search certain parts of your system, locate searches the whole thing
[05:52] <kubuntunewbie> Did you guys hear that Reebok dropped Michael Vick?
[05:52] <flaccid> and lag is not a good term hydrogen
[05:52] <hydrogen> flaccid: `updatedb` is the lag
[05:52] <pepinux> hello everybody.. Somebody knows where there are a kubunutu channel in spanish?
[05:52] <kubuntunewbie> Thats not even the crazy part. Do you know who picked him up?
[05:52] <flaccid> should i be trivial with you now hydrogen?
[05:52] <Jucato> !offftopic
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offftopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <kubuntunewbie> Hush puppies.
[05:52] <hydrogen> flaccid: whatever makes you happy
[05:52] <Jucato> !es | pepinux
[05:52] <ubotu> pepinux: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:52] <intelikey> updatedb is slower than find / *
[05:52] <kubuntunewbie> ;) Jucato no more banter from me
[05:52] <Access> 13:50:09 (287.38 KB/s) - `/tmp/dvdcss-d14323/libdvdcss.deb' saved [25178/25178] 
[05:52] <Access> Selecting previously deselected package libdvdcss2.
[05:52] <Access> (Reading database ... 117784 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:52] <Access> Unpacking libdvdcss2 (from .../dvdcss-d14323/libdvdcss.deb) ...
[05:52] <Access> Setting up libdvdcss2 (1.2.5-1) ...
[05:52] <Jucato> !paste | Access
[05:52] <ubotu> Access: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:53] <Access> okay
[05:53] <Access> thanks
[05:53] <hydrogen> intelikey: mm, its reusable though
[05:53] <pepinux> gracias ubotu
[05:53] <hydrogen> so if you will be doing a number of searches and then other things
[05:53] <hydrogen> its worth it
[05:53] <Access> Seems like libdvdcss is installed doesnt it?
[05:54] <hydrogen> however once you find once it will cache most of the info in ram, so find will respond lots faster after that anyways
[05:54] <intelikey> hydrogen but once you find /  the inodes are cached so it's faster too      moot point i know.
[05:54] <hydrogen> yea
[05:54] <hydrogen> thats why I threw in the "and other stuff" :)
[05:54] <hydrogen> that may use all your ram
[05:54] <flaccid> meh
[05:54] <prak> is there still no write support for ntfs?
[05:54] <Jucato> !nfts-3g
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <Jucato> bah
[05:54] <hydrogen> like if you have a habbit of locate blah && dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null for a while
[05:54] <hydrogen> ~ntfs
[05:54] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[05:54] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:54] <hydrogen> !ntfs
[05:54] <dr_Willis> prak,  theres been write support for some time. :)
[05:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:55] <hydrogen> whee
[05:55] <Jucato> prak: ^^^
[05:55] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | prak
[05:55] <ubotu> prak: please see above
[05:55] <flaccid> prak: there is if you had of read the pastes i originally did earlier
[05:56] <Access> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35749/ <= That proves livdvdcss is installed doesnt it?
[05:56] <Access> *libdvdcss
[05:56] <prak> !ntfs-3g
[05:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:58] <flaccid> Access: nope. try dpkg -l | grep -i libdvdcss2 and pastebin that
[05:58] <Access> okay
[05:58] <Access> will do
[05:59] <Access> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35750/
[06:00] <flaccid> Access: yep its installed
[06:00] <Access> damn
[06:00] <flaccid> !dvd
[06:00] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:01] <hydrogen> what problem are you having Access? after running the script it still doesn't work?
[06:02] <Access> However my DVD playing problem :( "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
[06:02] <Access> Using Movie Player
[06:02] <Access> Lights dont even flash on my drive
[06:03] <flaccid> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html   <--- they reckon libdvdread3
[06:03] <Access> Using VLC the lights flash for a second but nothing happens
[06:03] <intelikey> ok i have a question.     what's the rest of the /proc/  string in  " dd if=/proc/ of=- bs=1 "   to watch what's being displayed on a remote moitor via ssh  ?
[06:04] <dr_Willis>  watch what's being displayed? You wanting to sort of.. spy on a remote machine?
[06:04] <dr_Willis> If i read that right.
[06:05] <Access> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35749/ <= Thats what I installed, see the command I executed
[06:05] <prak> flaccid: i have installed ntfs-3g and ran the scripts as instructed on the links
[06:06] <prak> also configured in the system settings
[06:06] <flaccid> prak: sweet
[06:06] <prak> i'm still having trouble creating new folders and saving new content on my external hard drive
[06:06] <dr_Willis> isent there a ntfs-config tool that needs to get ran as root?
[06:06] <flaccid> prak: pastebin the output of /etc/fstab and mount
[06:07] <dr_Willis> i recall it had 2 check box's - to enabel it for internal, and external disks.
[06:08] <prak> flaccid: mount output: http://pastebin.ca/676527http://pastebin.ca/676527
[06:08] <prak> http://pastebin.ca/676527
[06:08] <Access> Im gonna try rebooting.. that might fix something :P
[06:08] <Access> Works for windows =P
[06:09] <intelikey> dialup   !
[06:09] <hydrogen> mm
[06:10] <hydrogen> doesn't ntfs-3g mount stuff as either `fuse` or `ntfs-3g` not ntfs?
[06:10] <hydrogen> or did that change
[06:10] <dr_Willis> that fstab is messed up.
[06:10] <intelikey> ntfs-3g mounts as ntfs-3g
[06:10] <dr_Willis> or else he pasted it 2+ times to the pastebin
[06:11] <flaccid> prak: mount options are not like the howto..
[06:11] <hydrogen> looks like its mounted with the read only ntfs driver
[06:11] <prak> flaccid: i need to configure the parameters so that they are write enabled?
[06:12] <Access> wooo!
[06:12] <Access> Reboot Fixed DVD Playing problem
[06:12] <Access> :D
[06:12] <flaccid> for a start setting uid and gid to 0 aint going help
[06:12] <dr_Willis> !info ntfs-config
[06:12] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[06:12] <intelikey> shane welcome back
[06:12] <flaccid> you did options not even mentioned in the howto prak
[06:12] <dr_Willis> I must be lazy. I just run the ntfs-config tool and check the box's :)
[06:13] <flaccid> prak: something like ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000 is fine
[06:13] <Access> thx :D
[06:13] <hydrogen> just do that
[06:13] <ibert> hi. I have a bash question: how can I convert a string, with " " seperators to a list like ls?
[06:13] <prak> flaccid: i did something under disk & file systems in System Settings
[06:13] <flaccid> prak: read and try to understand this again https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-2a64a964ff8833576586c7216a1199f022c505a6 so that you know what each option does
[06:13] <flaccid> prak: yes thats not in the howto...
[06:13] <hydrogen> for i in string; do echo $i\n;done;
[06:13] <hydrogen> i think
[06:14] <intelikey> dr_Willis i think i'm more lazy...  i just did     cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda ;mke2fs /dev/hda   and forgot about ntfs...
[06:14] <ibert> hydrogen: I'll try
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[06:14] <hydrogen> woah
[06:14] <Access> So, anyone know how to put back the bottom Panel? Its really annoying to alt-tab all the time?
[06:14] <hydrogen> flaccid: thats for read only access.
[06:14] <hydrogen> flaccid: that will not help him at all.
[06:15] <dr_Willis> Access,   you got no panels at all?
[06:15] <Access> dr_Willis: Yeah I stupidly went Right-click "Delete Panel"
[06:15] <flaccid> fuck i didn't realise
[06:15] <flaccid> someone needs to update that wiki
[06:15] <hydrogen> ..
[06:16] <ibert> hydrogen: doesn't work
[06:16] <hydrogen> ore follow what ubotu said
[06:16] <flaccid> the ubotu factoid states write, then you go to the page and there is no write options
[06:16] <prak> flaccid: so i should be manually editing fstab?
[06:16] <dr_Willis> Hmmm..  in the control panel applets for panel. i thoguth there was a enable check.. not on kde at the moment.,
[06:16] <hydrogen> err no
[06:16] <flaccid> prak: i'll give you the right options
[06:16] <hydrogen> you are looking at the wrong page.
[06:16] <hydrogen> !ntfs-3g
[06:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:16] <hydrogen> theres the right page
[06:16] <hydrogen> not the one you were following
[06:16] <drif> Access: kicker?
[06:16] <dr_Willis> ntfs-3g is needed for writing. I do belive.
[06:16] <hydrogen> it is
[06:17] <dr_Willis> abd to configure it - i cheat and use that  'ntfs-config' tool. :)
[06:17] <flaccid> notice the lack of write instructions
[06:17] <dr_Willis> takes me all of 20 sec to get it going.
[06:17] <Access> dr_Willis, in System Preference or Administration?
[06:17] <intelikey> right click   creat new pannel
[06:17] <Access> drif: Whats kicker?
[06:17] <dr_Willis> Access,  system preferances for kde i thught.
[06:17] <hydrogen> ibert:
[06:17] <Access> oh
[06:17] <flaccid> prak: rw,auto,user,uid=1000   (make sure you put in your uid)
[06:17] <dr_Willis> but im not on kde to check. :)
[06:17] <intelikey> alt+f2 kicker
[06:17] <drif> Access: like intelikey said
[06:17] <hydrogen> for i in "blah1 blah2 blah3"; do echo ${i}; done
[06:18] <drif> Access: just got here so I might be lost - I just thought you needed the kde panel back
[06:18] <hydrogen> flaccid: once again, that will not help at all
[06:18] <hydrogen> flaccid: the ntfs driver is readonly
[06:18] <hydrogen> flaccid: that is why he is using ntfs-3g
[06:18] <Access> Well drif, the panel at the bottom with the apps, I went "Right Click" Delete Panel.
[06:18] <Access> Am still looking
[06:19] <flaccid> hydrogen: once i again, ack that the wiki needs updating
[06:19] <intelikey> for Q in /dev/hd? /dev/scd? ;do eject $Q && echo "that was disk $Q" ;done
[06:19] <hydrogen> flaccid: no!
[06:19] <flaccid> hydrogen: please get off my back
[06:19] <intelikey> working example   ^
[06:19] <hydrogen> "On the next screen Enable write support for internal device will be selected by default. Click OK."
[06:19] <flaccid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:19] <hydrogen> right
[06:19] <hydrogen> that doesn't mention the fstab at all
[06:19] <prak> flaccid: i've modified my fstab using your recommended options, still doesn't work
[06:19] <prak> looks like i'll have to reformat it as fat
[06:20] <flaccid> read the correct wiki entry i just pasted
[06:20] <hydrogen> prak: hold on
[06:20] <dr_Willis> and paste the NEW fstab somewhere...
[06:20] <flaccid> you also need to make sure that the mount point is owned by you and has the correct write perms
[06:20] <hydrogen> prak: run sudo ntfs-config
[06:20] <flaccid> hydrogen: its not my fault the ubotu factoid says write, but the entry doesnt have the info
[06:20] <hydrogen> no, its your fault you didn't read properly
[06:20] <hydrogen> !ntfs
[06:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:20] <hydrogen> theres the factoid
[06:21] <flaccid> hydrogen: you didn't read what i said so this is your fault as well
[06:21] <prak> ok
[06:21] <prak> thanks
[06:21] <flaccid> !ntfs-3g
[06:21] <prak> i forgot to run ntfs-config
[06:21] <hydrogen> that'd do it :)
[06:21] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:21] <prak> i couldn't find it in the kde menu
[06:21] <hydrogen> sorry this got so convoluted prak
 <mountpoint> ntfs-3g auto,user,users,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[06:22] <intelikey> or do it the hard way...
[06:22] <flaccid> fua!!!
[06:22] <hydrogen> the hard way is overrated :)
[06:22] <prak> i got too used to windows again after not using ubuntu for a while, hydrogen
[06:23] <intelikey> prak see my example for your fstab
[06:23] <intelikey> interpret <>
[06:23] <hydrogen> prak: is it all working after running the tool?
[06:23] <prak> problem solved now, intelikey
[06:23] <prak> thanks
[06:23] <hydrogen> if so don't mess with your fstab
[06:23] <prak> hydrogen, it's all working after running the tool
[06:23] <hydrogen> yay
[06:24] <intelikey> prak np.   just though you might still need that.   wouldn't hurt to be 'somewhat' familear with that string anyway.
[06:25] <prak> intelikey, where's your example fstab again?
[06:25] <intelikey> errrr oh   s/auto/noauto/   heh typo
[06:25] <dr_Willis> learnign the fstab file and how linux mounts things is a top 10 thing to learn in my 'becoming a linux  proficient user' :) guide
 <mountpoint> ntfs-3g noauto,user,users,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[06:26] <intelikey> then as normal user you just   mount <mountpoint>  and shabang you have read/write access
[06:27] <intelikey> the pretty thing about that is it works for all users.
[06:27] <intelikey> but only the user that mounts it has write access at the eimt
[06:27] <intelikey> time
[06:27] <intelikey> lisdexic mi
[06:27] <hayami> hi
[06:28] <hayami> i wanna know how can i connect my laptop to a cannon i have to do an exposition
[06:28] <hayami> but how can i use the proyection mode or something like that?
[06:28] <hydrogen> mm
[06:29] <hydrogen> I think you may need to clarify what kind of cannon
[06:29] <intelikey> you know that switch on the bottom ???
[06:29] <hydrogen> is it a black powder cannon?
[06:29] <hayami> for apresentation
[06:29] <intelikey> that's not it.
[06:29] <intelikey> :)
[06:29] <hydrogen> does it shoot grapeshot or chain?
[06:29] <hayami> =O?
[06:29] <hayami> i don't understand a lot xD
[06:29] <intelikey> lol
[06:29] <hayami> yeah i'm really new
[06:30] <hayami> i have to make a presentation
[06:30] <hayami> in open office
[06:30] <hydrogen> sorry
[06:30] <hydrogen> I'm playing with words
[06:30] <hydrogen> i'm talking about a cannon as in boom
[06:30] <hayami> no man :P
[06:30] <hydrogen> not a cannon as in whatever you may be talking about.
[06:30] <hydrogen> A projector?
[06:30] <elite101> hello
[06:30] <dsmith> for vnc-ssh whats the best way?
[06:30] <hayami> yeah that, sorry
[06:30] <hayami> i'm latin american i don't know a lot of english yet:P
[06:31] <elite101> :)
[06:31] <hayami> if i connect the projector to my lap can i use it or i have to install something
[06:31] <dr_Willis> depends on the laptop.
[06:32] <dr_Willis> and if it has the external display enabled.
[06:32] <dr_Willis> and the chipset on the laptop
[06:32] <elite101> if its true monitor port it should work rite off the bat? no
[06:32] <hayami> it's a dell 9400
[06:32] <elite101> throu*
[06:32] <dr_Willis> elite101,  it MIGHT. :)
[06:32] <hayami> i used to have win xp
[06:32] <hayami> and i don't know if the external display mode is enabled how can i check that?
[06:32] <dr_Willis> on some nvidia sytems. ive seen them default to the external when somthing is plugged in.
[06:32] <dr_Willis> but with using the nvidia drivers. ive had to tweak the x config to clone the 2 displays
[06:32] <elite101> my tech teacher had a HP with a Canon Projector all he did was hook it up via monitor port and it worked no problem.
[06:33] <dr_Willis> hayami,  hook it up and see?
[06:33] <ibert> hydrogen: FYI -> for i in $(echo "a b c d"); do echo $i;done
[06:33] <hayami> well i guess i have to check it later, cuz i don't have any projector around
[06:33] <dr_Willis> elite101,  ive seen nvidia systems also default to the TV out when hooked up and disable the LCD/dvi - which really confused us...
[06:33] <elite101> lol
[06:33] <elite101> wow?
[06:33] <hayami> but there's someway i can verify that?
[06:33] <dr_Willis> hayami,  hook it up to a montor. it dont need to be a prokector
[06:34] <elite101> so u cant have multi display on seprate devices like LCD/TV
[06:34] <dr_Willis> elite101,  also ive seen the same box if hooked ONLY to a tv.. work on the tv. with no config tweaks.
[06:34] <elite101> ahh that sucks
[06:34] <dr_Willis> elite101,  I can.. some times i have to 'tweak' the x config settings
[06:34] <elite101> yeah
[06:34] <dr_Willis> sucks in ways.. good in others. :)
[06:34] <elite101> mhm
[06:34] <elite101> yeah
[06:34] <dr_Willis> for the mythtv box. it was good.
[06:34] <elite101> :)
[06:34] <elite101> so what?
[06:34] <dr_Willis> the point is.. it  Depends on the chipset/card/laptop. :)
[06:34] <elite101> you can hook up the tv to the card and its INput or Output?
[06:34] <elite101> :S
[06:35] <dr_Willis> I have a DVI out, vga out and TV out on my main desktopp
[06:35] <hayami> well i'll see with a monitor
[06:35] <dr_Willis> of course he may be using ATI for all we know. :)
[06:35] <elite101> so tv cant be streamed in?
[06:35] <elite101> yeah
[06:35] <elite101> they tend to have that
[06:35] <hayami> just plug in the monitor?
[06:35] <elite101> S-video/Component
[06:36] <elite101> yeah
[06:36] <dr_Willis> Video IN on a video card - would be a bit rare. :)
[06:36] <dr_Willis> i have a tv TUNER card that has a video in.
[06:36] <elite101> unplug the monitor fire up the Projector and see what it does
[06:36] <elite101> cool
[06:37] <elite101> it should say the Companys Brand (also its searching for input form Component or Monitor) then it should display the PC on the projector
[06:37] <elite101> like @ my tech class
[06:37] <elite101> it will say Canon then it will flash when auto configuring the Display and it shows up
[06:37] <hayami> nope nothing happened
[06:37] <hayami> so what i have to do
[06:38] <elite101> how many connectors on your Card?
[06:38] <elite101> 3-2-1?
[06:38] <hayami> 1? xD
[06:38] <elite101> hayami, what are the connectors on your card?
[06:38] <elite101> thats it
[06:38] <hayami> just for a monitor or projector
[06:38] <elite101> okay
[06:38] <hayami> it's blue colored
[06:38] <elite101> what type of card? ATI-agp? Nvidia-agp?
[06:38] <elite101> yeah
[06:38] <elite101> Or pci?
[06:39] <hayami> it's intel
[06:39] <elite101> ahh ic
[06:39] <elite101> onboard?
[06:39] <hayami> from the chipset series
[06:39] <jcolvin> where do i find the control center in kubuntu?
[06:39] <elite101> is it on board
[06:39] <hayami> on board?
[06:39] <jcolvin> im trying to find the file associations
[06:39] <elite101> jcolvin, alt f2 kcontrol
[06:39] <elite101> ;)
[06:39] <elite101> yeah
[06:39] <hayami> so what to do friends
[06:39] <elite101> hayami, is it an acutal card you installed or is it attached to the motherboard by the serial port/mouse/keyboard
[06:40] <hayami> is the attached one
[06:40] <elite101> okay
[06:40] <elite101> thats onboard
[06:40] <jcolvin> elite101: how do i find file associations?
[06:40] <hayami> it came default with the notebook
[06:40] <jcolvin> im trying to delete some
[06:40] <elite101> jcolvin, im kinda new to linux and stuff im not sure you might wanna ask someone else
[06:40] <elite101> i know you can do that
[06:40] <elite101> but i dont know how
[06:41] <jcolvin> thanks
[06:41] <elite101> hayami, check your projector does it have a LCD screen?
[06:41] <elite101> np
[06:41] <hayami> well i'm checking it with a monitor
[06:41] <hayami> my lap has and lcd screen
[06:41] <elite101> no the projector
[06:41] <hayami> is just an old monitor
[06:41] <elite101> does it have a menu system on it? or is there a switch?
[06:41] <elite101> no the projector xD
[06:42] <elite101> on your projector it might be set @ Compontent in? i dont know about the projector what brand model # is it?
[06:42] <hayami> hahaha
[06:42] <JCDG> hello, does somebody know a game like Age of empires to ubntu?
[06:42] <narg> is konqueror stripped of debug messages by default? (not debug symbols)
[06:42] <carranca> hi, im making an automated script in python to do some "profiling" of a program, i use the time program for that purpose, in my gentoo box it works fine but in kubuntu there seems to be two "time"'s, one is located in /usr/bin/time and the other i dont know... in gentoo i dont know in the first place so i assume is a bash thing. The problem is that /usr/bin/time trhows different msg as the "bash time" so i kind of lost
[06:42] <hayami> it's quiet difficult xD
[06:43] <elite101> omg floood
[06:43] <hayami> lucky me that i have win xp yet hahaha
[06:43] <elite101> lol
[06:43] <elite101> well what kind of projector?
[06:43] <elite101> *i was going to say router :(
[06:43] <hayami> is a monitor
[06:43] <hayami> ibm
[06:43] <elite101> hayami, is it a canon projector? sony?
[06:44] <elite101> PROJECTOR xD
[06:44] <hayami> i don't have the projector yet xD
[06:44] <elite101> ahh ic
[06:44] <hayami> is just a desktop monitor
[06:44] <elite101> ohhh
[06:44] <elite101> sorry im confused here
[06:44] <elite101> what is it exactly your trying to do?
[06:45] <elite101> :P
[06:45] <elite101> he said projector?
[06:45] <hayami> i try to project some diapositives i guess is correct xD
[06:45] <elite101> :S i thought he was trying to get it to work
[06:45] <elite101> lol well
[06:45] <elite101> what are you trying to do ?
[06:46] <elite101> hook up a LCD monitor?
[06:46] <hayami> i hook up a normal monitor
[06:46] <elite101> ahh
[06:46] <hayami> to my notebook
[06:46] <elite101> and does it display out put?
[06:46] <hayami> nope
[06:46] <elite101> to the monitor the external one?
[06:46] <elite101> ahh ic
[06:46] <elite101> well can you shutdown the main screen ?
[06:47] <hayami> can i shutdown the main screen how?
[06:47] <elite101> it might be that you have to shutdown the first screen (lcd) and then the second one (external) will turn on
[06:47] <hayami> how do i do that
[06:47] <elite101> well it wont turn on but send output?
[06:47] <elite101> i dont know
[06:47] <elite101> lol i neverd had a lappy befor :(
[06:48] <elite101> there should be a button on the top of the keyboard kinda thing?
[06:48] <elite101> like a array of buttons underneith of the LCD?
[06:49] <elite101> dr_Willis, do you own a laptop?
[06:49] <elite101> hayamai, what type of lappy?
[06:49] <elite101> sony?hp?accer?
[06:50] <elite101> hayami, can your laptop even handle a extrenal display?
[06:51] <elite101> omg im talking by myself?
[06:52] <elite101> ahhh
[06:52] <elite101> help
[06:52] <elite101> gulp
[06:52] <elite101> ahhhh
[06:52] <elite101> help
[06:52] <elite101> me
[06:52] <elite101> ahhh
[06:52] <elite101> omg
[06:52] <elite101> im sinking
[06:52] <elite101> its a nick tsunami
[06:52] <elite101> help
[06:52] <elite101> lol WOWOWOW
[06:52] <elite101> HAHAHA
[06:53] <elite101> omg
[06:53] <elite101> that was intense
[06:53] <elite101> wow
[06:53] <elite101> anyone else experience that?
[06:53] <elite101> holy crap
[06:54] <elite101> how come only 53nicks?
[06:54] <elite101> hello?
[06:54] <elite101> why only 53nicks?
[06:55] <elite101> omg hello?!?!
[06:56] <elite101> lol netsplite
[06:57] <elite101> weee
[06:57] <nixternal> no doubt
[06:59] <dsmith> irc.smoothwall.org 6667
[06:59] <elite101> wow
[07:00] <elite101> that was instense
[07:00] <elite101> i was @ #ubuntu channel wow
[07:00] <dsmith> what
[07:00] <elite101> it was like a train of nicks passing by
[07:00] <dsmith> lol
[07:00] <dsmith> I've seen that b4
[07:00] <intelikey> /bin/sh: irc.smoothwall.org: not found
[07:00] <dsmith> bah :P
[07:00] <intelikey> ooops.   hehhe
[07:00] <elite101> it was amazing
[07:00] <elite101> holy its like seeing santa lol
[07:00] <dsmith> haha
[07:01] <elite101> that geek in the server room every night hits the switch on and off for 2sec's :)
[07:01] <dsmith> hahah
[07:01] <dsmith> whats this thingy do
[07:01] <elite101> lol
[07:01] <dsmith> hmmm...must turn the fans on
[07:01] <elite101> it was like drowning
[07:02] <dsmith> I can here it come on and Ii can turn it off
[07:02] <elite101> esp in #ubuntu a thousand nicks in there
[07:02] <elite101> it was crazy lasted 2mins
[07:02] <dsmith> most servers start loud with fans running full bore
[07:02] <elite101> i was just helping someone and then it cut out?
[07:03] <dsmith> well i pushed another person into *buntu
[07:03] <elite101> idk know why? then i could seem to get heard and the channel only had 156Nicks
[07:03] <elite101> even in ubuntu lol it was picture this
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> elite101: it's called a netsplit
[07:03] <elite101> i know
[07:03] <elite101> it was great lol
[07:03] <elite101> why didnt i disconnect?
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> a cyber-rush :D
[07:03] <elite101> :)
[07:03] <dsmith> lol
[07:03] <elite101> why didnt i disconnect?
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> it doesn't disconnect anyone, the servers they're on disconnect from each other
[07:04] <dsmith> ou were on one servers
[07:04] <dsmith> exactly
[07:04] <elite101> i was talking to people in ubuntu and then it was like a tsunami hit us and we flew far away
[07:04] <elite101> so why was it only @ 156nicks?
[07:04] <dsmith> *blames
[07:04] <elite101> no dont blame him that was funn :)
[07:04] <elite101> lol i dont know why but wow
[07:04] <dsmith> felt the WOW?
[07:04] <dsmith> lol
[07:05] <intelikey> !netsplit
[07:05] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[07:05] <elite101> lol cool
[07:05] <elite101> so i was on the other server :)
[07:05] <elite101> and the other half was on the...uhh...other..other! server
[07:05] <elite101> does this happen only in IRC?
[07:06] <dsmith> happens in ANY irc
[07:06] <elite101> how many nicks can a IRC server old?
[07:06] <Daisuke-Ido> it's an irc phenomena
[07:06] <elite101> hold*
[07:06] <Daisuke-Ido> and that depends on the server
[07:06] <elite101> lol i experienced it too
[07:06] <dsmith> DALnet hade hundred thousand at one time I thnk
[07:06] <elite101> :) it was great :) will this happen again?
[07:06] <Daisuke-Ido> dalnet at its height...  some servers could hold 30k per server
[07:06] <intelikey> ubotu doesn't "know" anything.  it's just code,  if someone puts the info in and someone asks the right question they will get the info out.
[07:06] <elite101> :) i would love to see a netsplit on 100,000 nicks :)
[07:06] <Daisuke-Ido> 100k is an overall number
[07:06] <dsmith> intelikey: I know that
[07:07] <Daisuke-Ido> elite101: during the downfall of dal you would have seen it daily
[07:07] <Access> !samba
[07:07] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:07] <Daisuke-Ido> several times daily
[07:07] <elite101> :) cool
[07:07] <elite101> i wanna keep IRC online for ever lol
[07:07] <Daisuke-Ido> screw samba, nfs is the way to go
[07:07] <Access> !nfs
[07:07] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:07] <Access> Can windows access NFS?
[07:08] <elite101> i wanna make a network split what channel has the most nicks?
[07:08] <dsmith> Im sure
[07:08] <intelikey> nfs is a little slow mounting  but seems to work ok.
[07:08] <Daisuke-Ido> with an additional download
[07:08] <elite101> what channel has the most nicks out there?
[07:08] <Daisuke-Ido> windows services for unix
[07:08] <dsmith> we ran a smaba server at the office for years
[07:08] <Daisuke-Ido> includes an nfs client
[07:08] <Daisuke-Ido> jen's xp laptop automounts my nfs shares in here on boot
[07:09] <intelikey> elite101 #debian maybe ?      :))))
[07:09] <elite101> lol yeah :)
[07:10] <elite101> i will go there and call the guys @ freenode to cause another network split
[07:11] <intelikey> actually #ubuntu runs close to 1k most of the time
[07:11] <level1> how do you change or disable the background in konqueror?
[07:11] <level1> the little kubuntu watermark?
[07:12] <intelikey> right click ?
[07:12] <elite101> lol the new IRC game IRC:Netsplitter
[07:12] <elite101> :)
[07:12] <level1> intelikey: right click and what?
[07:12] <intelikey> not new.  script kiddys been playing it for uears
[07:13] <intelikey> level1 the background.
[07:13] <level1> intelikey: I'm pretty sure thats not it
[07:13] <intelikey> level1 or use the menu and configure it   or kcontrol
[07:13] <elite101> wow kubuntu is getting more and more nicks i think it went up to 375Nicks today? lol i wanna graphical chart of the traffic :)
[07:14] <level1> intelikey: well, I'm not really sure where that is, but I don't think its in the gui... I remember having to go into some config files to fix it, but I can't find it in konquerorrc
[07:14] <xjkx> can anyone go on #ubuntu and give me an operator name?
[07:15] <Jucato> xjkx: um why?
[07:15] <xjkx> i was banished like two days ago and still not removed, i cant be banished forever for saying a bad word
[07:15] <elite101> lol
[07:15] <elite101> only 1 bad word?
[07:15] <Jucato> xjkx: #ubuntu-ops would be the place to appeal
[07:15] <intelikey> xjkx #ubuntu-ops
[07:15] <xjkx> yea
[07:15] <xjkx> thanks
[07:16] <elite101> lol zero ops in the channel
[07:16] <intelikey> elite101 think again.
[07:16] <elite101> what can u do to be banned forever
[07:16] <elite101> think again there still is none
[07:17] <intelikey> elite101 ummm tell a hot headed op that they are wrong about something ?
[07:17] <xjkx> if they forget removing you cant do something real bad
[07:17] <xjkx> you dont need*
[07:17] <elite101> lol
[07:17] <elite101> haha
[07:17] <intelikey> elite101 there are several in there,   they just are not +o atm
[07:17] <elite101> there is no ops in ubuntu or Kubuntu
[07:17] <elite101> yeah
[07:18] <Jucato> there are ops
[07:18] <elite101> well i know but there not set as Op
[07:18] <Jucato> we just don't stay +o
[07:18] <xjkx> i am in the op channel, i think they will read
[07:18] <Daisuke-Ido> they can be, quickly
[07:18] <elite101> yeah
[07:18] <elite101> im a Op too
[07:18] <elite101> just in my own channel :)
[07:18] <xjkx> :>
[07:18] <elite101> how do i become a Operator?
[07:18] <elite101> for this channel :)
[07:19] <Jucato> xjkx: you will have to be more specific in your request. and try to talk to the person who banned you. we don't usually remove someone else's ban
[07:19] <Daisuke-Ido> elite101: not like that :)
[07:19] <elite101> alotta time and work?
[07:19] <intelikey> /j #bash   everybody is +o there
[07:19] <Jucato> elite101: you don't apply. you get chosen, if there's a need
[07:19] <elite101> ahh ic
[07:19] <elite101> well someone could choose me outta the blue?
[07:19] <Jucato> not out of the blue definitely
[07:19] <elite101> i would do my best *shines OP badge*
[07:19] <elite101> lol
[07:20] <elite101> haha i banned someone
[07:20] <elite101> im taking peoples Ops away
[07:20] <intelikey> /bah *@*
[07:21] <intelikey> /ban *@*
[07:21] <elite101> lolz
[07:21] <elite101> they dont care?
[07:21] <Jucato> ...
[07:21] <elite101> i kicked xlijk
[07:21] <elite101> :)
[07:21] <xjkx> elite101: lol :P
[07:21] <elite101> :) its funn
[07:21] <elite101> lol u can go back thou
[07:21] <xjkx> just went to check :p
[07:22] <intelikey> odd, i didn't think you cared much for it
[07:22] <intelikey> :)
[07:23] <Jucato> O.o
[07:23] <elite101> ohh no there on to me
[07:26] <job424> I'm having issues getting ndiswrapper installed on kubuntu... any help?
[07:26] <intelikey> !ndiswrapper
[07:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:27] <job424> that information doesnt help me... i need information with kubuntu
[07:27] <job424> i've already looked there.
[07:27] <elite101> xjkx, go into bash and give me op pleaseeee...:)
[07:28] <xjkx> elite101: cant find a menu in xchat to op you :P
[07:28] <elite101> lol ahh
[07:28] <elite101> man
[07:29] <xjkx> done
[07:29] <xjkx> its /op lol
[07:29] <xjkx> kinda suggestive
[07:29] <elite101> ;)
[07:29] <elite101> hah i feel like a cyber sarg.
[07:31] <magi> hi all, does anybody know how to configure a wireless adapter?
[07:31] <job424> magi
[07:31] <job424> !wireless
[07:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:34] <magi> thanks!
[07:34] <elite101> well i gotta go lol i had enough fun with ops/netsplite/floods
[07:34] <elite101> netsplits*
[07:34] <elite101> ;) bye
[07:34] <xjkx> elite101: cya
[07:34] <elite101> thanks for the op :)
[07:35] <xjkx> np
[07:36] <intelikey> cd, bzj, *
[07:36] <intelikey> :)
[07:36] <intelikey> that's a script.
[07:36] <intelikey> /plug netsplits*
[07:45] <intelikey> would someone at least talk off topic.   i hate a dead channel.
[07:46] <underdog5004> ok
[07:46] <magi> well, the wireless card can find signals in windows, but not in my ubuntu.
[07:49] <intelikey> what neet fun stuff can i do with the menu key  in a console ???
[07:50] <intelikey> ah could have it run a script to de/mute the sound...   that would be nice i guess
[07:50] <underdog5004> intelikey, I thought you wanted something in -offtopic?
[07:50] <underdog5004> I'll repost it here...
[07:51] <sanzanric> wow http://www.linkinn.com/_Photoshopped_Animals_Very_Cool
[07:51] <underdog5004> My stupid college uses blackboard so students can submit assignments online. The only problem is, they do path-checking on the submission field, so if the line doesn't start out with C:\, it pops up a cute little box that informs me that /home/matthew/Assignment1.rtf is not a valid file.
 And they force me to submit in .doc, .rtf, or .pdf format...nothing else!
 I'm submitting in .pdf...it's the easiest, since openoffice has issues with numbered lists in rtf, and I don't even want to try .doc...
[07:51] <underdog5004> sorry for the flood/spam, any ops in sight...
[07:52] <sanzanric> ud5004: have you tried ff in wine?
[07:52] <intelikey> :)   that sounds like a school alright.
[07:53] <freeman> what is  ff???
[07:53] <sanzanric> firefox
[07:53] <intelikey> !ff
[07:53] <freeman> o
[07:53] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:53] <intelikey> why use wine for ff ?
[07:54] <sanzanric> intelikey: My stupid college uses blackboard so students can submit assignments online. The only problem is, they do path-checking on the submission field, so if the line doesn't start out with C:\, it pops up a cute little box that informs me that /home/matthew/Assignment1.rtf is not a valid file.
[07:54] <intelikey> underdog5004 and yeah if rtf is a no go then pdf is all that's left there.      abiword maybe ?
[07:55] <intelikey> yes i saw that,  or  is that just filler  :)
[07:55] <underdog5004> idk...haven't tried it yet...pdf works for now, though...I hate windows...
[07:55] <freeman> hehe
[07:56] <underdog5004> sanzanric, no, I haven't...I just installed XP in a vm, then shared my desktop with it...risky, but the vm is paused whenever I'm not using it...I used a...paralegal method to install, and I don't want to activate...
[07:56] <sanzanric> what if you have a paper on a usb( e:\ in windows)? do they just don't let you submit it?
[07:57] <intelikey> underdog5004 sudo mkdir 'C:\'  and put your school crap in there
[07:57] <underdog5004> lol
[07:58] <underdog5004> but the path /C:\/path/to/docs would still start with a /
[07:59] <sanzanric> underdog5004: i only have 20 days until my win vm expires. i just reinstall every 30 days. and i use a shared folder for all my data.
[07:59] <underdog5004> sanzanric, I'm pretty sure they're just checking the structure, (eg. $letter:/path/to/dir
[07:59] <underdog5004> although I was thinking about just using the usb stick as a share...but that's kind of hacky
[07:59] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~]  touch 'C:\/something'
[07:59] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~]  echo C\:\\/something
[07:59] <intelikey> C:\/something
[08:00] <intelikey> works here...
[08:00] <underdog5004> lol
[08:00] <underdog5004> I'm happy...well, no, not happy, but satisfie..no...I'm too done to do anything else...XP is on...it's paused, it's ready for me...necessary evil.
[08:02] <sanzanric> i have to processors, what the speed difference between a 32 bit and 64bit os
[08:02] <intelikey> :)
[08:02] <sanzanric> two proceddors
[08:02] <sanzanric> processors, sorry keyboard issues, lol
[08:02] <underdog5004> sanzanric, minimal difference for desktop stuff
[08:02] <intelikey> 1shco6s4asb5an6dda5dt
[08:02] <underdog5004> if you're compiling a lot, there may be a difference
[08:03] <underdog5004> hex you, intelikey
[08:03] <intelikey> no rot13 would be more like it
[08:04] <sanzanric> is it possible to upgrade from 32 bit feisty to 64 gusty?
[08:04] <jussi01> hmmm, what is the legality of using msttcorefonts?
[08:04] <jussi01> ie. can you use the for business stuff no problems??
[08:08] <JCDG>  hello, how do i remove the temp files??
[08:09] <intelikey> jussi01 maybe a leagle team could answer that in five to seven years with billions in research
[08:09] <jussi01> intelikey: lol
[08:09] <intelikey> JCDG which temp files ?
[08:10] <JCDG> all that i can, unfinished downloads, etc..
[08:10] <JCDG>  you know all that temp files that aren't needed
[08:10] <intelikey> jussi01 and i'm sure the answer will be if you will accept the EULA and buy the license then it's ok.
[08:11] <jussi01> intelikey: eula? license?
[08:12] <intelikey> jussi01 yeah.  is there anything M$ that doesn't have an EULA ?
[08:12] <underdog5004> JCDG, sudo rm -rf /tmp/*
[08:12] <JCDG> and it isn't dangerous??
[08:12] <underdog5004> no.
[08:12] <JCDG> ok, thxs
[08:12] <underdog5004> sudo rm -rf /* would be dangerous
[08:13] <jussi01> intelikey: lol
[08:13] <intelikey> JCDG sudo apt-get clean
[08:13] <intelikey> underdog5004 ?
[08:13] <NickPresta> deleting everything in /tmp/ can be dangerous
[08:13] <intelikey> JCDG don't do that unless you are going to follow with resetting the xserver
[08:13] <underdog5004> NickPresta, really? I do it sometimes...
[08:13] <underdog5004> I'm sorry guys, I thought it was ok.
[08:14] <NickPresta> active stuff is in /tmp so it can screw up stuff that is open/writing to tmp
[08:14] <underdog5004> now, where's that millstone?
[08:14] <JCDG> yeah i know, somebody toldme when i was more rookie that if i do rm -rf in teh root file i will change something i don't remeber,
[08:14] <intelikey> JCDG sudo apt-get clean ; open your web browser and in it's configs purge the cache
[08:15] <JCDG> well you know what happened to my system
[08:15] <NickPresta> and just for reference: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/tmp.html
[08:15] <intelikey> yeah   it went away.
[08:16] <JCDG> everythnig.... i just remembered his mother for so much nights!
[08:16] <underdog5004> oh geez, I'm sorry, JCDG...
[08:16] <shade_micro5> hello everyone.. i'm new here.. will someone please help me on private with a connexion problem on kubuntu 7.04 i386 ?
[08:16] <NickPresta> !ask | shade_micro5
[08:16] <ubotu> shade_micro5: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:16] <JCDG> ok, donpt worry, thxs 4 ereverything man
[08:17] <underdog5004> JCDG, what I was doing was removing the kaffiene temp files it made when it downloaded files from my server.
[08:17] <underdog5004> in /tmp
[08:17] <intelikey> JCDG and you can clean out the /var/log dir if you really need space   also empth any trash.
[08:17] <shade_micro5> erm.. i got dsl at home and my windows can configure my conn through dhco but my kubuntu won;t
[08:17] <shade_micro5> */dhcp
[08:18] <shade_micro5> *dhcp
[08:18] <shade_micro5> can anyone tell me what must i do ?
[08:18] <shade_micro5> please?
[08:19] <NickPresta> shade_micro5, what have you tried so far? have you checked out !network
[08:19] <NickPresta> !network
[08:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:19] <shade_micro5> it is not wireless
[08:19] <NickPresta> wireless, the heck. nevermind about Wireless
[08:19] <shade_micro5> i got a dsl modem
[08:19] <intelikey> !modem
[08:20] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[08:20] <shade_micro5> i also tryed to set it up from the netwok... erm that thing in the upper-right corner of the screen
[08:20] <shade_micro5> not dial-up
[08:20] <intelikey> not that either
[08:20] <shade_micro5> it is dsl
[08:20] <shade_micro5> dsl
[08:20] <NickPresta> what thing in the upper right corner?
[08:21] <shade_micro5> where u click and u put ur ip gateway dns and all that
[08:21] <intelikey> yeah what thing ?   upper ?
[08:21] <shade_micro5> i would like to point out that i am a newbie in linux
[08:21] <shade_micro5> :)
[08:21] <killer> I've recently installed kubuntu on my new lenovo laptop.  The wireless nic was recognized and it's working (I'm using it now) but I can't seem to connect to my personally home network (I'm on a neighbors unsecured network).  This nick has WPA support, but for whatever reason it's not connecting.  Where can I find logs to help me find out why?
[08:21] <NickPresta> shade, are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:21] <intelikey> /join #ubuntu
[08:22] <shade_micro5> kubuntu 7.04 i386
[08:22] <underdog5004> !WPA | killer
[08:22] <ubotu> killer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:22] <NickPresta> then which thing in the upper corner are you talking about? By default, the upper right corner is clear.
[08:22] <shade_micro5> no it is not
[08:23] <intelikey> yes it is shade_micro5
[08:23] <shade_micro5> u can get a newtwork connected notification for example
[08:23] <intelikey> shade_micro5 you have ubuntu,  not kubuntu
[08:23] <shade_micro5> oops sorry
[08:23] <shade_micro5> ur right
[08:23] <shade_micro5> :D
[08:24] <shade_micro5> i forgot i use gnome for this one
[08:24] <shade_micro5> :D
[08:24] <shade_micro5> so i guess considering that i have ubuntu.. u guys cannot help me ?
[08:25] <underdog5004> shade_micro5, type this: /join #ubuntu
[08:25] <shade_micro5> ok thanx
[08:25] <intelikey> the "ga no me" channel is  ----->>  over there
[08:25] <shade_micro5> cya
[08:29] <intelikey> what's that command to search the scan codes by pressing the keys ?
[08:31] <intelikey> doesn't matter i don't think i have it installed.
[08:32] <Jucato> xev I think
[08:32] <intelikey> showkey found it but i don't have it installed
[08:33] <intelikey> having 14 boxes on which to search for commands helps some times
[08:34] <intelikey> ls /*bin/ /usr/*bin/ | grep key
[08:34] <underdog5004> whoa...just cleared out my trash...I just lost 16 gigs worth of junk, ha ha
[08:34] <Jucato> O.o
[08:34] <Jucato> you were running a garbage dump site? O.o
[08:35] <intelikey> yeah.   cyber space land fill
[08:35] <underdog5004> lol
[08:38] <intelikey> so for nfs  "/home/archives                 192.168.0.0/16(rw,sync,no_root_squash)"  would be anyone on 192.168.*.*  right ?
[08:39] <flaccid> intelikey: only 192.168.0.*
[08:40] <intelikey> flaccid then what is  192.168.*.*  ???    /24  ?
[08:41] <flaccid> i could be wrong. i'll look up cidr on wikipedia
[08:41] <underdog5004> ugh, I have to learn that stuff this semester
[08:42] <flaccid> cidr is number of hosts, not networks
[08:42] <intelikey> ? backwards not are you sure you are
[08:42] <flaccid> did you ask in #networking
[08:43] <flaccid> cause you need routing to route two networks together
[08:43] <flaccid> eg. 192.168.0.1 can't reach 192.168.1.1
[08:43] <intelikey> i asked in here where all the smart peopel hang out
[08:43] <underdog5004> lol
[08:44] <kozz> intelikey: 192.168.0.0/16 == 192.168.*.*
[08:44] <flaccid> what are you trying to do
[08:44] <intelikey> kozz k ty.
[08:44] <flaccid> i thought cidr was number of hosts, not networks
[08:44] <flaccid> http://infocenter.guardiandigital.com/manuals/IDDS/node9.html
[08:45] <NickPresta> Anyone here have experience with the iRiver Clix 2?
[08:45] <kozz> the first 16 bits are the network part, each number is 8 bits
[08:45] <intelikey> kozz and /24 is 192.168.0.* ?   right ?
[08:45] <kozz> yes
[08:45] <flaccid> the /24 means 256 hosts doesnt it
[08:45] <kozz> yeah
[08:45] <flaccid> oh i think i get it now
[08:45] <kozz> totally 32 bits, 24 are used for the network part and the remaining 8 are for host 2^8 = 256
[08:46] <flaccid> ah
[08:46] <flaccid> and the last two octals are the network and host ?
[08:46] <vers> is there a better audio player
[08:46] <flaccid> vers: yes
[08:46] <kozz> flaccid: "last two octals"?
[08:47] <kr1p1> for ubuntu is metacity
[08:47] <vers> whats the name
[08:47] <kr1p1> what's for kbuntu?
[08:47] <kozz> kr1p1: kwin
[08:47] <flaccid> kozz: x.x.x.x what do they call the x
[08:47] <flaccid> i mean dotted quad
[08:47] <flaccid> heh
[08:48] <kr1p1> kozz: thanx
[08:48] <vers> flaccid: whats the name of it
[08:48] <kozz> flaccid: right, well how many octals that are used for network ro hosts depends on the number after the slash (/)
[08:48] <Access> Flaccid: You have been doing this solidly for hours. I hope your being paid :P
[08:48] <intelikey> vers vlx
[08:48] <intelikey> vers vlc
[08:48] <vers> thanks
[08:49] <flaccid> Access: im the noob in this case heh
[08:49] <kr1p1> does anyone know what's the command to replace some colours in xorg Since I'm an nvidia user and compiz fusion and I can't see borders (no minimize maximize) ??
[08:49] <Access> hehe
[08:49] <flaccid> intelikey: this makes it easy to understand - i always forget myself as you can clearly see. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[08:50] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39322
[08:51] <flaccid> intelikey: you just proving you can get to each?
[08:51] <jussi01> !wifi
[08:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:52] <underdog5004> kr1p1, you need to add "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
[08:52] <intelikey> flaccid yeah
[08:52] <flaccid> sweet
[08:52] <intelikey> flaccid don't burst my bubble.  took me four days to get that working correctly
[08:53] <flaccid> what was the problem
[08:53] <kr1p1> underdog5004: I tryed but no good..
[08:53] <underdog5004> kr1p1, did you restart the Xserver?
[08:53] <kr1p1> underdog5004: it't the same
[08:53] <flaccid> let me know about it coz i suck at networking too
[08:53] <kr1p1> nop
[08:53] <kr1p1> underdog5004: thanx
[08:53] <underdog5004> kr1p1, np
[08:55] <dotz> hi, even if i create a script in /etc/init.d/xxx , and i used update-rc.d xxx defaults , it doesn't seem that when i log in (run level 2) the scripts run....
[08:55] <dario> hello
[08:55] <dotz> i need feisty to run xhost (not for hacking or whatever, its for something else) when it boots up..
[08:56] <flaccid> dotz: did you chmod +x ?
[08:56] <dario> help me
[08:57] <dario> Amarok crsh my kde session
[08:57] <NickPresta> !panic
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <dotz> yes..
[08:57] <dotz> if i do a manual /etc/init.d/xxx start , it works
[08:57] <dotz> !paste
[08:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:58] <intelikey> flaccid diagram  [inet] ---[modem] =[box1] =[eth0_192.168.0.1] ---[switch1] ---[eth0_192.168.0.2] =[box2] =[eth1_192.168.1.2] ---[switch2] ---[eth1_192.168.1.3] =[box3] =[eth0_192.168.2.3] --X--[eth0 box5]           just so you can see what i've been fighting    all working now.  all can access the internet and each other
[08:58] <flaccid> dotz: maybe its running but dying or something or something is wrong with your runlevel startup i guess
[08:58] <intelikey> --X-- == crossover cable
[08:58] <dotz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35755/
[08:58] <dotz> ps: its not for hacking purpose,.. i know of issues on xhost
[08:58] <flaccid> intelikey: why would you put them on dif networks, just because they are on dif switches?
[08:59] <flaccid> intelikey: and why you hook a box up via a xover. weird
[08:59] <dotz> its starts on runlevel 2,3,4,5 , kill on 0,1,6
[09:00] <intelikey> flaccid it's more of a learning exp than anything else  but i didn't mention other lines.  first switch is only 8 port but the switch2 is a stack.
[09:00] <flaccid> fair enough
[09:00] <intelikey> flaccid why --X--  location.
[09:01] <intelikey> run another 80' cat 5 or use a crossover of about 3'
[09:01] <dario> helpme amarok close my kde session
[09:02] <flaccid> dario: #amarok
[09:02] <dario> helpme amarok close my kde session
[09:02] <dotz> maybe i should just put in ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[09:02] <flaccid> dario: don't repeat. we cannot help you.
[09:03] <flaccid> dotz: thats what i would of done in first place, but you set on boot..
[09:03] <flaccid> set=said
[09:03] <dotz> !!!
[09:03] <dotz> ok
[09:03] <dotz> :(
[09:03] <dario> :S
[09:03] <flaccid> i gotta go home
[09:03] <flaccid> cyas
[09:04] <intelikey> flaccid  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39323
[09:04] <intelikey> ooops
[09:06] <dotz> can i name the script in ~/.kde/Autostart in anything, and it will run automatically?
[09:06] <maverick> anyone has any idea how to set konq to permenantly display contents in detailed view ?
[09:06] <dotz> !autostart
[09:06] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:06] <maverick> dotz :  put any script in  ~/.kde/Autostart        i.e: ~/.kde/Autostart/anything  and it will run automatically
[09:06] <dotz> great~
[09:07] <maverick> anyone has any idea how to set konq to permenantly display contents in detailed view ?
[09:07] <dario>  open amarok and close my session
[09:09] <diane> maverick: goto Settings => Save View Profile
[09:09] <maverick> i did and loaded it again ...but nothing
[09:09] <diane> Works here...
[09:09] <diane> I just did it back and forth.
[09:09] <dotz> The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory <-- how do i use kcontrol-autostart ? installed but don't know how to use
[09:09] <maverick> maverick: do i have to do this everytime i open konq
[09:10] <diane> maverick: no
[09:10] <maverick> "load view profile" ?
[09:10] <diane> it saves it under the file profile
[09:10] <intelikey> dotz   alt+f2 kcontrol
[09:10] <vers> how can i see how much space is on my hard drive?
[09:10] <dotz> gotcha
[09:10] <dotz> brb
[09:11] <diane> vers: df -h
[09:11] <vers> diane: thanks
[09:11] <diane> vers: assuming it is mounted
[09:11] <vers> yes
[09:12] <intelikey> really isn't a good way to check an unmounted disk
[09:12] <dario> how to delet amarok configuracion?
[09:13] <diane> dario: open the playlist, and goto Settings > Configure
[09:13] <intelikey> it's probably in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[09:13] <diane> dario: ahh delete
[09:13] <diane> dario: yeah, it is two places actually.
[09:14] <dario> ok
[09:15] <NickPresta> Any idea why libmtp isn't "recognizing" my MTP device?
[09:15] <NickPresta> I have checked the support table, it's supported
[09:15] <diane> Well sometimes there are entries in .kde/cache-$(hostname)/
[09:16] <intelikey> NickPresta dmesg show it ?   maybe modprobe a module for it if not
[09:17] <NickPresta> intelikey, usb 2-9: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd mtp-detect rqt 192 rq 1 len 1024 ret -110
[09:18] <NickPresta> that was after I tried an mtp-detect
[09:18] <NickPresta> It shows that a new high speed USB device is there. It even says it has chosen configuration #1 from 1 choice.
[09:19] <dario> thanks for your tecnical support
[09:19] <intelikey> that bluetooth ?
[09:21] <intelikey> lsmod | grep -q mtp && echo ok || sudo modprobe cmtp
[09:21] <intelikey> i really don't know.
[09:21] <intelikey> Lynoure: i don't know.   so ignore me.
[09:22] <NickPresta> FATAL: Module cmt not found. It's okay. I'm going to do some more digging and search a couple forums where people have my device.
[09:22] <intelikey> no ; i don't know.   so ignore me.
[09:22] <intelikey> cmtp  you turncated it
[09:22] <diane> test
[09:23] <intelikey> no,
[09:24] <intelikey> set
[09:24] <NickPresta> intelikey, no dice.
[09:25] <intelikey> like i said,   i don't know,   i don't have anything usb to play with.
[09:27] <intelikey> no, i think i changed the NICK_COMPLETION_CHAR and this is a test no, if, joe,
[09:27] <intelikey> ok.
[09:27] <diane> test
[09:27] <intelikey> NickPresta: sorry
[09:27] <NickPresta> heh
[09:27] <NickPresta> its fine. I just got this device and luckily it supports UMS mode
[09:28] <intelikey> diane pong
[09:28] <diane> intelikey: thanks :)
[09:29] <diane> intelikey: one more time
[09:29] <intelikey> /msg %name test    or  /ping %name
[09:30] <intelikey> diane flaccid will ping ya
[09:30] <flaccid> ping pong
[09:30] <flaccid> ctcp-ping ?
[09:31] <intelikey> ping pong
[09:31] <diane> heh
[09:31] <flaccid> not getting a reply diane
[09:31] <diane> I am just testing colors and such. Trying to get this purple/grey theme all sorted out
[09:31] <diane> flaccid: I am not registered.
[09:31] <flaccid> diane: your host pings however
[09:32] <diane> flaccid: I have no ident server set up as well
[09:32] <flaccid> you need to be registered for ctcp ping reply?
[09:32] <flaccid> ah ok
[09:32] <diane> flaccid: no
[09:32] <intelikey> that indicates that you will time out in ten minutes tho
[09:32] <flaccid> im on a livecd as my hard disk is borken
[09:32] <diane> I need to find a good dark purple icon set now...
[09:33] <Agent_bob> hd is broskun ???
[09:33] <flaccid> i dunno http://kde-look.org
[09:33] <flaccid> its broken. i dropped my notebook. hard disk damaged
[09:33] <diane> yeah, on there now.
[09:34] <Agent_bob> ouch
[09:34] <Agent_bob> lappy is all crippled up now...
[09:34] <flaccid> would of been ok if hard disk was not on in use
[09:34] <Agent_bob> poor pinguin
[09:34] <flaccid> poor pcbsd as well.. thats on there
[09:35] <Agent_bob> yeah huh
[09:35] <NickPresta> Is there any way to see which options the binaries were compiled with?
[09:36] <dotz> i have problem restarting the computer in feisty.. it just stuck on a black screen.. couldn't ctrl-alt-F1-2-3-4-5-6-7
[09:36] <Agent_bob> NickPresta yes    errr   file ?
[09:36] <flaccid> !info krusader
[09:36] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0~beta1-1 (feisty), package size 2982 kB, installed size 8324 kB
[09:38] <windwalker> Hi all. Can somebody tell me how do I stop the broadcasting of printers in cups?
[09:38] <dotz> !inittab
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <dotz> is there no inittab in feisty?
[09:38] <flaccid> windwalker: try #cups
[09:38] <Agent_bob> eeeek.  i have no real shell installed on this box.  only bash.      i'll have to tend to that.
[09:38] <flaccid> whats wrong with bash
[09:39] <windwalker> flaccid, already tried...
[09:39] <flaccid> its in the docs
[09:39] <flaccid> !cups
[09:39] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:39] <flaccid> good be in there too
[09:39] <Agent_bob> bloat
[09:39] <flaccid> !upstart
[09:39] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:39] <flaccid> dotz: see upstart
[09:39] <flaccid> Agent_bob: what do you like
[09:40] <Agent_bob> dash is ok.  tcsh95 ...
[09:40] <dotz> ok..hope the restart is related
[09:40] <flaccid> yeah i like tcsh
[09:41] <arun> videos dont work for me with compiz fusion. is there any solution for this except using x11 video rendering?
[09:41] <flaccid> dotz: you can still create an inittab and ubuntu will use. checkout http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292507
[09:41] <_4strO> yop
[09:43] <jcolvin> hi guys
[09:43] <flaccid> evening
[09:43] <jcolvin> im having trouble with my internet
[09:43] <jcolvin> i cant seem to see the available wireless networks
[09:44] <flaccid> !wireless > jcolvin
[09:44] <flaccid> is your driver working?
[09:44] <_2> i may like this nick
[09:44] <_2> binary    ya know
[09:45] <jcolvin> yes
[09:45] <flaccid> jcolvin: does iwlist eth1 scanning work?
[09:45] <jcolvin> i mean im on wireless now but im trying to connect to mine
[09:45] <flaccid> right
[09:45] <flaccid> and what happens
[09:46] <jcolvin> im using an unknown internet
[09:46] <dotz> flaccid: any known issues on shutdown/restart hang on black screen? i'm looking at forums but most of them talking about ATI cards..which my computer doesn't use
[09:46] <dotz> if not i'll just keep surfing
[09:47] <flaccid> dotz: there is probably lots, but nothing i know about personally
[09:47] <jcolvin> flaccid: when i put my mouse over the internet icon in the system tray and it shows a wire
[09:47] <flaccid> right click the icon, do you see wireless networks in the list?
[09:47] <jcolvin> nope
[09:48] <dotz> flaccid: which log contain the messages when shutdown? /var/log/syslog ?
[09:49] <flaccid> dotz: not sure check /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages and /var/log/acpid and possibly /var/log/apport will help if its application based
[09:49] <flaccid> jcolvin: not sure how to help..
[09:50] <prak> flaccid: after restarting my computer and running the script previous, i now have trouble mounting my external hard drive properly after typing "sudo mount -a"
[09:50] <prak> should i be editing my fstab again?
[09:51] <_2> maybe  kern.log
[09:51] <flaccid> prak: check that the entry is correct in fstab then do a sudo mount /mnt/mntpoint
[09:51] <flaccid> so you are mounting only that mountpoint
[09:52] <flaccid> ensure there is no noauto option in your fstab entry if you want it to mount on boot
[09:53] <flaccid> check if its actually mounted in the command mount
[09:53] <_2> cat /proc/mounts
[09:54] <diane> the lila icon set is a pretty good match. Looking decent now...
[09:56] <NickPresta> I want to use a Gutsy package in Feisty. Is this possible/safe? The package in question is libmtp5. It reverse depends only amarok and libmtp5-dev. How would I do this without updating everything or breaking packages?
[09:56] <arun> Is there any way to use Compiz Fusion with xv video rendering enabled?
[09:57] <_2> possible yes   safe no
[09:57] <flaccid> NickPresta: quickest thing to do is manually d/l that package then run dpkg -i pkg.deb and see what it wants
[09:57] <flaccid> arun: try #ubuntu-effects
[09:57] <_2> you will probably get into deps issues
[09:58] <flaccid> yes but you get to see what you need and what can conflict without analysing
[09:58] <_2> flaccid what about getting the source from the gutsy repos and going that way ?
[09:58] <NickPresta> flaccid, okay. Thanks. If it's too complicated, I will wait for Gutsy
[09:59] <neusonce_>  guys  do you know of any program that converts Avi. files in to a format that playable on home dvd players ?
[09:59] <flaccid> _2: i don't see how that will help
[09:59] <flaccid> !encode
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <flaccid> !dvd
[09:59] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:00] <prak> flaccid: /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 0
[10:00] <flaccid> neusonce_: i will look
[10:00] <prak> this is the entry concerning my external hard drive
[10:00] <flaccid> prak: its mounted
[10:01] <prak> flaccid: how do you know?
[10:01] <flaccid> neusonce_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring
[10:02] <neusonce_> thanks dude
[10:02] <flaccid> prak: the mount command shows mounted
[10:02] <flaccid> prak: ls -l /media/sdb1
[10:02] <flaccid> np neusonce_
[10:02] <kraut> moin
[10:03] <prak> flaccid: this is what terminal returns me: total 0
[10:03] <flaccid> prak: what does df -h | grep sdb1 output?
[10:04] <prak> nothing
[10:05] <flaccid> prak: do a sudo umount -l /media/sdb1 && sudo mount /media/sdb1
[10:05] <flaccid> your entry in fstab is for sdb1 ?
[10:05] <prak> yes
[10:06] <flaccid> any output from the remount
[10:06] <jdautz> Is somebody know crash of Kmail when I apply filters on all inbox?
[10:09] <prak> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/676634
[10:10] <flaccid> have you ever mounted sdb1 ?
[10:10] <flaccid> please pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[10:10] <jussi01> hmmm, is there a quick key combo for locking the screen?
[10:10] <flaccid> jussi01: ctrl + alt + l usually
[10:11] <jussi01> flaccid: thanks
[10:11] <voln> i need apps for hide firefox in systray, who knows?
[10:12] <flaccid> !find alltray
[10:12] <ubotu> Found: alltray
[10:12] <flaccid> !info alltray
[10:12] <ubotu> alltray: Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.69-1 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 224 kB
[10:12] <flaccid> nice little app that one
[10:12] <voln> thanks
[10:12] <flaccid> np
[10:12] <neusonce_> hye i needed that one 2
[10:12] <neusonce_> yayyyyyyyy
[10:12] <flaccid> sweet
[10:13] <prak> flaccid: haven't ever mounted successfully after i restarted my computer
[10:13] <flaccid> prak: probably wrong dev
[10:13] <flaccid> [08:10]  <flaccid> please pastebin sudo fdisk -l :)
[10:13] <prak> flaccid: wrong dev name?
[10:14] <flaccid> yes ls /dev/ | grep sd
[10:14] <demiwar> help kaffeine has no sound
[10:14] <flaccid> i guess i mean ls /dev/sd*
[10:14] <flaccid> !sound > demiwar
[10:15] <flaccid> prak: it should be in fdisk -l
[10:15] <Access> !samba
[10:15] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:16] <flaccid> thats not a good way of describing. 'way to cooperate'
[10:18] <flaccid> if nobody has questions im going next door to the bottleshop to get more beer
[10:18] <flaccid> !find beer
[10:18] <ubotu> File beer found in gerstensaft
[10:18] <flaccid> !info gerstensaft
[10:18] <ubotu> gerstensaft: Frontend for Simple Asynchronous File Transfer. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3-2 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 268 kB
[10:18] <flaccid> dang bbs
[10:20] <mytles> grzeszczak dziweczko jestes??
[10:20] <flaccid> negative
[10:21] <Jucato> !pl | mytles
[10:21] <ubotu> mytles: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:21] <mytles> :P
[10:25] <prak> !fuse
[10:25] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[10:25] <Access> wow man, getting Samba working is a lot of work!
[10:26] <Access> Is there an easy way to create a folder on this computer with full access so a windows machine can just dump stuff into it?
[10:27] <demiwar> help kaffeine has no sound
[10:27] <demiwar> can anyone help
[10:28] <Access> Switch to decaf
[10:28] <Access> *grins*
[10:28] <demiwar> wft
[10:28] <Access> Its a joke :P Im a n00b
[10:28] <demiwar> very funny
[10:28] <Access> :D
[10:29] <demiwar> do u have kaffeine
[10:30] <flaccid> yes just learn samba Access
[10:31] <flaccid> i'll help if you want Access
[10:33] <flaccid> Access: an easy way is to use the kicker applet
[10:36] <Access> the kicker applet
[10:36] <Access> How do I run that?
[10:37] <prak> flaccid: turns out that there's something screwed up with my fstab
[10:37] <flaccid> add applet by right click on kicker
[10:37] <flaccid> prak: show me the fstab entry..
[10:37] <Access> Sorry, what a kicker?
[10:37] <flaccid> the main bar
[10:37] <Access> Oh
[10:37] <flaccid> add the applet public file server
[10:37] <Access> im using Gnome
[10:38] <Access> That make a difference?
[10:38] <_4strO> yes :p
[10:38] <prak> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/676651
[10:38] <prak> the external hard drive appears to be sdc1
[10:38] <Access> flaccid: Sorry man, Gnome here.. just downloaded Ubuntu from the website an installed.
[10:38] <flaccid> Access: probably. run kicker. need to also check if the applet has write access. im not 100% sure
[10:39] <prak> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/676653 shows the terminal printout
[10:39] <prak> when i tried to mount sdc1
[10:39] <flaccid> prak: simply change the fstab entry to sdc1 then do a sudo mount -a
[10:39] <Access> Add / Remove applications?
[10:39] <flaccid> Access: i think we should confirm if the applet can do write
[10:40] <Access> okay
[10:40] <flaccid> you might as well try it Access
[10:40] <prak> flaccid: i already changed my fstab entry to sdc1
[10:40] <flaccid> Access: run the program kicker
[10:40] <prak> in the fstab pastebin that i sent you
[10:41] <flaccid> prak: what does file /media/sdc1 return?
[10:41] <Access> oh quick question, my friend is bringing around a USB key, im bragging about my hax Ubuntu setup.. am I going to embarise myself when he tries to plug in his USB stick and Linux cant see it or automatically install it?
[10:42] <flaccid> Access: no hald will prompt you in kde what you want to do and automount to /media
[10:42] <Access> What about Gnome?
[10:42] <flaccid> gnome is #ubuntu
[10:42] <prak> flaccid: there's an input/output error
[10:43] <Access> okay
[10:43] <Access> Im only here because Konversion automatically sent me here.
[10:43] <Access> *Konversation
[10:43] <flaccid> prak: run this sudo umount -l /media/sdc1 && sudo umount -l /media/sdc1 && sudo mount /media/sdc1
[10:43] <flaccid> Access: yeah thats because Konversation is a kde application
[10:44] <prak> ok
[10:44] <prak> flaccid: thanks for your help
[10:45] <prak> it's working now
[10:45] <flaccid> if you get i/o error then your disk has physical damage or needs fsck
[10:45] <flaccid> prak: ok mate cool
[10:45] <flaccid> prak: run fsck over it anyway :)
[10:46] <prak> !fsck
[10:46] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[10:46] <flaccid> so in your case after unmounting it, run sudo fsck /dev/sdc1
[10:46] <flaccid> im pretty sure it can support ntfs
[10:48] <flaccid> prak: i would check out http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#questions
[10:49] <flaccid> apparently the defaults provide write, so you should check that and make sure the perms on the mountpoint before mounting are suffice
[10:54] <intelikey> is there an apt or aptitude command for this;   if you have two versions of a package in the cache dir and only want to keep the latest version,  or if only one version keep it,   but remove all other versions of all packages ?
[10:55] <flaccid> i think there is, but i don't know it/remember
[10:55] <flaccid> its done with that apt policy something or other
[10:55] <flaccid> apt-cache policy ?
[10:55] <Jucato> not quite
[10:55] <intelikey> but remove all other versions of all packages /but remove all older versions of all packages  ^
[10:56] <flaccid> hmm im way off
[10:56] <arun> Would you guys recommend using Vi or Emacs as an IDE/text editor
[10:56] <flaccid> arun: ide and text editor are quite different. its not an ide
[10:56] <arun> but it can be used as an ide?
[10:56] <arun> as in, to write programs
[10:57] <flaccid> but can be made to have some ide features
[10:57] <Jucato> arun: I would in all honesty recommend what you would be more comfortable working with :)
[10:57] <flaccid> you can write programs in a text editor
[10:57] <flaccid> use whatever you like most
[10:57] <Jucato> and the only way you'll find out is if you try them both. pick one now
[10:57] <flaccid> the editor is irrelevant. its the programmer that does the coding
[10:57] <Jucato> hm.. I kinda disagree a bit, but anyway :)
[10:58] <flaccid> ive tried like most of the text editors around. i ended up with prefs for kate in gui and joe in cli
[10:58] <arun> i like geany
[10:58] <arun> and kate
[10:58] <Jucato> then use those :)
[10:58] <flaccid> sounds good
[10:59] <flaccid> i like bluefish, but yeah its gtk and needs some externa file opening in same instance behaviourr
[10:59] <Jucato> I use vim in cli only because I got used to it, because someone convinced me to try it out. never got around to trying out emacs, but I plan to do so
[10:59] <SlimeyPete> quanta :)
[10:59] <Jucato> quanta.... hm... ...
[10:59] <flaccid> personally i just need something to update comment headers in php..
[11:01] <emilsedgh> ah Quanta+ is really a grea editor for PHP
[11:01] <emilsedgh> great*
[11:01] <flaccid> so is elipse
[11:01] <flaccid> um eclipse
[11:01] <Jucato> eheheh elipse :)
[11:02] <flaccid> kdevelop is good but its another program that has neglected support for files opening in same instance frome external
[11:06] <shing19m> hello
[11:07] <n00b> sorry
[11:08] <n00b> only one short question: is it possible to install "Kubuntu 7.04 i386" from an USB CDROM? the laptop (X60T) supports booting from USB Cdroms. But after loading kernel and ram disk the system does not do anything more
[11:13] <bionic> hi
[11:13] <n00b> hi bionic
[11:15] <prak> does anyone know of any easy way to install adobe reader in adept or synaptic?
[11:16] <prak> rather than opening the tarball from adobe website?
[11:16] <flaccid> n00b: its very much possible. you may need to try the alternate cd or a dif optical drive
[11:17] <flaccid> prak: you don't like kpdf?
[11:17] <prak> flaccid: no
[11:17] <flaccid> prak: see adobe support
[11:18] <flaccid> the answer to your question is literally no
[11:18] <flaccid> to be installed by adept or synaptics it needs to be a .deb in a repos
[11:18] <jussi01> prak: the tarball _is_ easy
[11:18] <prak> flaccid: i used to be able to install adobe reader from adept
[11:19] <prak> jussi01: i'm having trouble with the install command
[11:19] <prak> !install
[11:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:19] <flaccid> prak: from which repository
[11:19] <flaccid> don't tell us you have a problem, tell us exactly what the problem is
[11:19] <prak> flaccid: i used to be able to do it i think in the universal repository
[11:19] <jussi01> prak: you just need to make the file executable and double click it...
[11:20] <flaccid> prak: its commercial so i don't think it could be there
[11:20] <jussi01> or run the command they say
[11:20] <flaccid> prak: if you are installing something from a 3rd party, read their documentation!!
[11:20] <n00b> flaccid, diff optical drive is no option but ill try the alternative cdrom later
[11:21] <flaccid> ok n00b
[11:21] <prak> jussi01: how do i make a tarball into an executable?
[11:21] <jussi01> prak: its in medibuntu
[11:21] <jussi01> !medibuntu
[11:21] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[11:21] <flaccid> prak: you cannot. a tarball is an archive like a .zip
[11:21] <jussi01> prak: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-pdf-reader-with-plug-in-for-mozilla-firefox-in-feisty-fawn.html
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> prak: if you untar it (tar -xvf tarfile.tar) it probably has executables inside it
[11:26] <prak> thanks jussi01
[11:27] <jussi01> prak: np :)
[11:27] <flaccid> lol
[11:29] <gronbaek> Hi people. I just decided to test opendb on my desktop machine. It installed fine, but how do I login? Theres been no config dialouge, and now it just asks for username / password on the front page,
[11:29] <prak> how do i find out if my kubuntu has ppdev, parport, and parport_pc support?
[11:29] <gronbaek> The opendb page says that you should open install.php, but there's no such file...
[11:29] <SlimeyPete> are those kernel modules, prak ?
[11:29] <SlimeyPete> if so, lsmod
[11:29] <flaccid> gronbaek: i don't think this is the place for help on that sorry
[11:30] <SlimeyPete> gronbaek: do a dpkg -L <package name>
[11:30] <SlimeyPete> see if it lists the file
[11:30] <SlimeyPete> sometimes ubuntu packages put things in funny locations
[11:31] <gronbaek> Hm... nothing. only some patch installations show up. That's pretty strange.
[11:32] <gronbaek> It's in the repositories, and deb-conf asked questions during install... but nothing about users.
[11:34] <flaccid> gronbaek: everything you need here http://opendb.iamvegan.net/wiki/index.php?title=Documentation
[11:34] <flaccid> ie. the manual/wiki
[11:37] <gronbaek> flaccid: uhm... I don't see it. I've installed it by "apt-get install opendb". And theres' no install.php file, as they refer to in the documentation.
[11:37] <flaccid> ok
[11:37] <flaccid> 1sec
[11:37] <gronbaek> And the admin user don't have the password admin.
[11:38] <gronbaek> Deb-conf asked for one... but either I typed it wrong, or it's not the one I typed.
[11:38] <flaccid> gronbaek: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=opendb&version=feisty&arch=all
[11:38] <flaccid> no install.php probably because it doesn't need it. the package does it via deb-conf or whatever
[11:40] <gronbaek> hm... ill try a reconfigure
[11:41] <flaccid> gronbaek: i would also search ubuntu forums and wiki for opendb
[11:42] <ymsg> french room
[11:44] <flaccid> !fr
[11:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:47] <kgx> !ubotu
[11:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:48] <kgx> took you a while :p
[11:48] <flaccid> he must be in demand tonight
[12:01] <flaccid> !ubiquity
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubiquity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <flaccid> !find ubiquity
[12:01] <ubotu> Found: ubiquity, ubiquity-casper, ubiquity-frontend-gtk, ubiquity-frontend-kde, ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork
[12:01] <flaccid> !info ubiquity
[12:01] <ubotu> ubiquity: Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.11 (feisty), package size 1852 kB, installed size 7104 kB
[12:01] <krzysiek> siema
[12:02] <krzysiek> mowi ktos po polsku
[12:02] <krzysiek> ??
[12:02] <krzysiek> elo
[12:02] <flaccid> engish only
[12:02] <flaccid> what language you krzysiek?
[12:02] <flaccid> !pl
[12:02] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:09] <ymsg> why when i wish watch some  youtube video i havenot the song
[12:09] <flaccid> have not the song?
[12:09] <flaccid> !flash
[12:09] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:10] <ymsg> i can  watch  video but not  hear the song
[12:10] <flaccid> also install the package libxine-extracodecs
[12:10] <flaccid> !sound
[12:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:10] <flaccid> oops
[12:10] <flaccid> !codecs
[12:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <flaccid> ie. restricted formats
[12:16] <RichardH> Hi
[12:16] <RichardH> does anyone know about amarok?
[12:17] <Jucato> !anyone
[12:17] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:17] <RichardH> ok
[12:17] <Jucato> and if you don't get an answer here, you could also try in #amarok
[12:17] <RichardH> amarok wont open after a reboot
[12:18] <Jucato> RichardH: can you try running it from Konsole and check the error messages that come out
[12:18] <RichardH> it says 'loading' in the bar at the bottom, then just vanishes again
[12:18] <RichardH> ok
[12:18] <RichardH> do i just type 'amarok', yeah>
[12:18] <RichardH> ?*
[12:18] <Jucato> in Konsole? yeah
[12:18] <RichardH> ok
[12:19] <RichardH> nothing appeared so far
[12:19] <Jucato> hm....
[12:19] <radek> ahoj, mohl by mi tu nekdo poradit, jak zabranit tomu, aby mi Adept updater porad nabizel update pro aplikaci, kterou nechci updatovat? Proste mi nova verze nejde, dekuju
[12:19] <flaccid> !lock
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <flaccid> Jucato: whats that dpkg lock fix command
[12:19] <Jucato> !cz | radek
[12:19] <ubotu> radek: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[12:19] <Jucato> !adeptfix
[12:19] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:20] <flaccid> thanks mate
[12:20] <RichardH> still nothing in Konsole
[12:20] <RichardH> i can type, but i dont have the richard@.... at the start of the line
[12:20] <Jucato> huh?
[12:20] <flaccid> RichardH: control + c ?
[12:21] <Jucato> oh
[12:21] <emilsedgh> RichardH: do you see the Splash Screen? I did have similiar problem...
[12:21] <Jucato> yeah Ctrl+C to cancel/exit
[12:21] <RichardH> emilsedgh: - no, no splash screen
[12:21] <radek> thanx Jucato
[12:21] <Jucato> RichardH: press Ctrl+Esc and check if  there's a running amarok or amarokapp process already?
[12:21] <gronbaek> flaccid: there seems to be a problem with opendb. No matter what I do, I can't use the official package. I'm using the version from sourceforge now, and that works perfect. Thx for the help anyway.
[12:21] <RichardH> ctrl+c has brought a new prompt at the start of the line
[12:21] <flaccid> RichardH: if you are running a gui app from a shell then you need to do eg. amarok & to send it to background
[12:22] <Jucato> flaccid: the problem is that amarok isn't even starting
[12:22] <Jucato> so I asked him to try to run it in Konsole to see if there are error messages
[12:22] <flaccid> gronbaek: could be a package problem. check !bugs for opendb bugs
[12:22] <RichardH> ctrl+esc shows there is an amarok process
[12:22] <RichardH> and an amrokapp
[12:22] <somiran> hello
[12:22] <gronbaek> !bugs
[12:22] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:22] <flaccid> there is no output from running amarok from cli after killall amarok; killall amarokapp ?
[12:22] <Jucato> RichardH: that means amarok is already running. can you see it in your system tray? maybe it's on another virtual desktop
[12:23] <Jucato> flaccid: haven't asked him to kill it yet :)O
[12:23] <flaccid> true, my bad
[12:23] <somiran> there is so many bug
[12:23] <flaccid> lots of spiders too
[12:23] <RichardH> Jucato: too late :P
[12:23] <RichardH> i killed it, restarted it from terminal, and now its opened fine
[12:23] <Jucato> RichardH: hm ok... now try running amarok again :/
[12:24] <Jucato> phooey
[12:24] <Jucato> :P
[12:24] <somiran> but when i am trying to report those something wrong is happenig to my system
[12:24] <RichardH> although there are a couple of warnings in Konsole
[12:24] <Jucato> BadDevice thingies?
[12:24] <flaccid> RichardH: some of amaroks child process/scripts/plugins tend to make amarok freeze up a lot in my experience
[12:24] <Jucato> amarok is nice and all... too big for me sometimes though :(
[12:24] <RichardH> lol
[12:24] <flaccid> yeah its that big factor and extension that makes it not good
[12:25] <Jucato> maybe until I learn this last.fm and smart playlist thingies
[12:25] <somiran> my kstar is not starting
[12:25] <RichardH> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8097d50 ): KAccel                             object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[12:25] <flaccid> eg. python scripts
[12:25] <Jucato> oh yeah, and scripting..
[12:25] <flaccid> RichardH: that warning is fine
[12:25] <RichardH> ok
[12:25] <Jucato> maybe nice I learn how to use/create scripts :)
[12:25] <RichardH> Layout "unnamed" added to QVBox "unnamed", which already has a layout
[12:25] <Jucato> but until then it does more than what I need :)
[12:25] <Jucato> RichardH: are you on Feisty?
[12:25] <RichardH> yeah
[12:26] <flaccid> the scripts have a lot of dev to go in terms of error handling
[12:26] <Jucato> hm...
[12:26] <flaccid> RichardH: they are qt warnings, quite normal for amarok
[12:26] <somiran> when i am trying to report bug my resolution is coming to low grade
[12:26] <RichardH> flaccid: ok, cool
[12:26] <somiran> is there any solution
[12:27] <RichardH> thanks for your help, flaccid, Jucato
[12:27] <Jucato> sure
[12:28] <Shibalba> Hi people, anyone got any idea how i can get my broadcom wireless card to work on Kubuntu?
[12:28] <somiran> hey anyone from india to help me
[12:29] <Jucato> !in
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <Jucato> bah.. hm...
[12:29] <Jucato> !broadcom
[12:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:29] <Jucato> Shibalba: ^^^
[12:29] <Shibalba> Thanks
[12:29] <Shibalba> :)
[12:30] <Jucato> somiran: #ubuntu-in
[12:30] <somiran> ya
[12:30] <somiran> i can not report bug
 I can help you
[12:39] <arctanx> I have a question; has anyone else noticed a "Firefox Web Browser" thing appearing in the panel when clicking on a link from pidgin, xchat, etc., complete with bouncing icon by the cursor, until it times out, since it actually opened in a new tab in an existing window?
[12:39] <arctanx> and if so, how'd you fix it?
[12:39] <RichiH> are there any known issues with kopete on kubuntu feisty when using IRC? it goes to, and stays at, 100% CPU the second it receives a message
[12:42] <flaccid> RichiH: could be a bug, most likely
[12:42] <RichiH> heh
[12:42] <RichiH> yes, that is what i think as well
[12:42] <flaccid> kopete can be a bit bloaty because of its design, but it shouldn't go that bad. what cpu is it
[12:42] <RichiH> but are there any known ones?
[12:42] <flaccid> there are probably lots
[12:42] <flaccid> !bugs
[12:42] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:42] <RichiH> celeron m 520 @ 1.6 GHz
[12:42] <RichiH> i.e. fast enough
[12:42] <flaccid> they are a lot of things to fix up in kopete and there is the never ending problem of proprietory protocols chaning
[12:42] <flaccid> changing
[12:43] <flaccid> which protocol is it
[12:44] <RichiH> flaccid: irc
[12:44] <flaccid> oh yeah, um lets have a look
[12:46] <luke__> hi all, first sry for my terrible english...i need help with vim....who r using vim here?
[12:46] <flaccid> RichiH: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=irc+kopete&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=project&field.scope.target=ubuntu
[12:46] <flaccid> luke__: try #vim
[12:47] <luke__> thx
[12:47] <flaccid> RichiH: also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=kopete+cpu&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=New&field.status%3Alist=Incomplete&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[12:48] <flaccid> RichiH: see if you can get any attention in #kopete
[12:48] <flake> is there any modem I can buy that would work with ubuntu without question .. i only have pci slots :/
[12:49] <flaccid> !modem
[12:49] <flake> i lost the driver to my modem, so ndiswrapper doesn't do me any good without knowing what my modem is
[12:49] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:49] <flaccid> lets have a look
[12:49] <flake> no, i want to fax   lol
[12:49] <flaccid> flake: see if lshw can say what you have. in konsole do sudo apt-get install lswh && sudo lsw | more
[12:49] <RichiH> flaccid: yah, i asked both here and there
[12:50] <RichiH> let me look at the bugs
[12:50] <flaccid> RichiH: the cpu overload happens a lot in these kind of apps ie. reverse engineering protocols
[12:50] <flake> can't find the package flaccid
[12:50] <RichiH> flaccid: but this is irc we are talking about
[12:51] <flaccid> RichiH: what is the name of the process doing 100% ?
[12:51] <flaccid> flake: sorry just sudo lsw | more
[12:51] <flaccid> flake: sorry lshw | more
[12:52] <flake> np,  I have an existing pci modem but it's coxenant.. they want $19..  almost might as well pay it but that's not the policy of my machine
[12:52] <flaccid> flake: you might like to try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/ScanModem
[12:52] <flake> I did, it told me it's coxenant (hsf)
[12:52] <flaccid> !conexant
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conexant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <flaccid> !coxenant
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coxenant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <flake> is there a modem out there you would purchase for pci you know would work?
[12:53] <flake> like at best buy
[12:53] <flaccid> nope
[12:53] <flaccid> flake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant
[12:53] <flaccid> flake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Working_Conexant_Modems
[12:54] <flake> they limit the speed to 14.4, unless you pay them $19 for the 'real' driver
[12:54] <flaccid> so you just want a dif supported modem. wouldn't it be cheaper to buy the driver
[12:54] <RichiH> flaccid: kopete
[12:55] <flaccid> flake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Modems and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/GeneralDiscussion
[12:55] <flaccid> yep so its kopete bug
[12:56] <flaccid> flake: so basically http://xmodem.org
[12:57] <flake> thanks for your help
[12:57] <flaccid> np
[12:57] <flaccid> i have about 10 here
[12:57] <flaccid> but im in austraia
[12:58] <flaccid> australia
[01:00] <flake> how's the weather over there
[01:02] <hayami> hi, can anyone help me? i'm gonna make a presentation and i can't make kubuntu to show the screen in a projector or a monitor what should i do
[01:02] <flaccid> flake: coldish where i am good for the rest. im in tasmania
[01:02] <arctanx> hayami: don't you usually press function-f5 or something? assuming you're on a laptop
[01:03] <arctanx> just as a purely laptop function, OS-independent
[01:03] <hayami> i just need that?
[01:03] <hayami> just push f5
[01:03] <arctanx> function-f5
[01:03] <arctanx> I think
[01:03] <flake> nice, summer is ending here in florida, starting to cool down
[01:03] <hayami> well i have it on function f8
[01:03] <arctanx> look on your keyboard to find out :P
[01:03] <hayami> but the command doesn't wok
[01:03] <hayami> work
[01:03] <hayami> i tried a lot of times
[01:04] <arctanx> not sure then
[01:04] <arctanx> sorry about that
[01:04] <hayami> no problem man
[01:04] <flaccid> summer is gooood
[01:04] <flake> was too hot to do anything in midday for a bit
[01:05] <flaccid> i could imagin
[01:06] <hayami> anyone else:P a sugestion
[01:06] <hayami> xD
[01:09] <flaccid> riverwood
[01:09] <baudthief> Long shot, but is there any way to get EAX to work with Audigy cards under linux? (ie: like creative mixer on windows with all the cool effects like reverb, echo, paramtric EQ)
[01:10] <flake> have to run, thanks again
[01:10] <Dargan> Anyone free to help me with a compiz repo issue ? O_o
[01:11] <Dargan> Ubuntu pwns ^_^
[01:11] <baudthief> compiz was SHIT
[01:11] <IIVQ> hello - is there a kubuntu livecd later than 5.10?
[01:11] <Dargan> Heh, still want to try fusion before i judge it
[01:12] <Dargan> kubuntu has one up to 7.04, yeah ? same as ubuntu
[01:12] <baudthief> IIVQ: Pretty sure the feisty 7.04 installation disc was live bootable
[01:12] <baudthief> Dargan: Haha not stopping you, if you have a nicely configured Feisty + Beryl installation up and running now, back it up before you try Fusion ;p
[01:13] <flaccid> arctanx: yep i love the audigy support too
[01:13] <baudthief> (that was it's easy to recover)
[01:13] <Dargan> Fresh install atm
[01:13] <flaccid> IIVQ: yep feisty
[01:13] <Dargan> Wouldnt upgrade from 6.1 so i had to use my new discs to update to 7.04 with fresh
[01:13] <arctanx> flaccid: used to be pain in the proverbial
[01:13] <baudthief> flaccid: so I'm guessing there isn't and wont be any EAX support for audigy? :\
[01:14] <IIVQ> ah ok - I found separate livecd's for version 5.10 so I thought it still was like that
[01:14] <Dargan> Ive got the repo set up as per instructions on the ubuntu website, and im trying to get the latest 0.5 compiz. The repo is *supposed* to be in /dists/feisty but apt is looking in /pool/feisty for the packages. Im using the moshen.de mirror
[01:15] <baudthief> As much as i'd like to suggest a solution, i've had really shit luck with linux heh (moved from windows a few months back) -- still sufferring :P
[01:16] <baudthief> once you get over the fact that you cant run anything you used to, it's really quite pleasant
[01:16] <Dargan> heh, im trying to fully shift away from winblows
[01:16] <arctanx> baudthief: I've come to the conclusion that everyone has to go through the pain
[01:16] <flaccid> baudthief: you could ask creative. its their product/problem..
[01:16] <IIVQ> I have actually contemplated moving to windows several times
[01:16] <Dargan> Gotta get Cedega to run all my games. Thats my stopper atm
[01:17] <arctanx> even if you're lucky to begin with, sooner or later some issue will crop up and you will drive yourself nuts trying to fix it
[01:17] <flaccid> dual boot is the only way for full support
[01:17] <baudthief> flaccid: thats what pisses linux newbies off :p
[01:17] <IIVQ> I'm a linux user since ... lemme calculate ... 8 or 9 years I think
[01:17] <flaccid> baudthief: yep and its not linux fault
[01:17] <arctanx> dual boot is good and what I have, though I'm in linux 99% of the time, literally
[01:18] <Dargan> Dual boot is where i am atm
[01:18] <dwidmann> :) hurray for voluntary time off!
[01:18] <Dargan> Run games in windows and everything else in linux
[01:18] <flaccid> im on linux or freebsd 98%
[01:18] <arctanx> Dargan: cedega's not worth it in my opinion
[01:18] <baudthief> Not saying it is lol, its just far harder to find help / information for linux than windows. I spent DAYS on google trying to find a solution to video tearing on linux, or problems with K and an ATI X700 to no avail
[01:18] <arctanx> really? I have a shocking time trying to find answers to windows problems online
[01:19] <baudthief> Have you always been a windows user, or mainly linux?
[01:19] <Dargan> The uh, 'subscription' isnt a problem. Its just making it run my games at all
[01:19] <flaccid> there are problems everywhere heh
[01:19] <dwidmann> flaccid: does the other two % involve openbsd or solaris?
[01:19] <client> yop
[01:19] <arctanx> baudthief: to whom are you asking that?
[01:19] <baudthief> you :p
[01:19] <Dargan> Not all of them are run off CD (some are self-installers) and they freeze like a whore hit with spotlights when i run them
[01:19] <flaccid> dwidmann: windows, mac os x. no access to any other bsd or sun systems atm
[01:20] <arctanx> ah, I've been a windows user for some 10 years 3.1 -> xp, using linux on and off, then fell in love with OS X for a year, and now run ubuntu
[01:20] <Dargan> baudthief: I had tearing problems. Underclocking. O/c'd my GPU and CPU and it worked fine. haha
[01:20] <baudthief> Dargan: haha
[01:20] <Dargan> Go figure. All the help i could find was to lower the clock, and im thinking "This IS the lowest they can go"
[01:21] <arctanx> if I can graduate before they feel like putting vista on the uni comps, I might get away without ever really using it
[01:21] <Dargan> Vista is pretty, and can be nice to use, but im sticking with XP MCE atm.
[01:21] <baudthief> arctanx: fair enough, I dunno man - I've always loved linux as a server os, was a windows guru before. Figured i'm sick of MS's bullshit and switched to linux, its a bit weird going from an OS you know back to front to an OS you know nothing about
[01:21] <dwidmann> arctanx: good luck with that one
[01:21] <Dargan> Trying to get some streaming to xbox action from linux though
[01:22] <flaccid> which protocol Dargan
[01:22] <kgx> baudthief: stick in there...soon you'll hate going back to windows
[01:22] <Dargan> Just over the network to my 360
[01:22] <flaccid> Dargan: http?
[01:22] <Dargan> Had mythtv installed before but never got around to trying it
[01:23] <Dargan> No
[01:23] <baudthief> haha I do alrady, I try and do the ctrl+alt cube rotate thing on windows (inadvertantly) all the time :p
[01:23] <arctanx> baudthief: Ya I know what you mean. I did something with OS X similar, except that it doesn't have all the weird issues and errors popping up that you get when you're using linux for the first time. For the first week I was like "wow, shiny new toy!", after a month "eurgh, I'm really a lot better at windows" then after a couple more months "no damn way I'm going back to winblows"
[01:23] <Dargan> Not sure what protocol it is
[01:23] <arctanx> dwidmann: mm -_- oh well
[01:23] <RichardH> Dargan: trying to stream music?
[01:23] <Dargan> video
[01:23] <IIVQ> With Windows, every time I boot, I am busy for 2 hours running updates
[01:23] <kgx> past 3 years or so i had been using linux for 95% of my time..last year, it dropped to 60% as i had to do windows programming. the first few backs with windows was quite annoying!
[01:24] <RichardH> i think WindowsMediaConnect2 is designed to be as closed as possible :P
[01:24] <IIVQ> With Gentoo, every time I update, I spend 2 hours getting it back to work :-P
[01:24] <flaccid> my next job might be packaging windows software lol
[01:24] <arctanx> I also have to say, I have totally not missed running virus scans, defragmenting, removing spyware, and dealing with applications leaking my memory and dragging my system into the ground
[01:24] <Dargan> haha yeah, its why i have MCE installed
[01:24] <dwidmann> flaccid: with or without a baseball bat?
[01:24] <baudthief> arctanx: haha yeah - I've been using linux as a desktop OS for maybe 4 months so far. I still have my windows box beside it, purely for apps that I cant find alternatives for (Altium Designer 6 for PCBs, and FLASHFXP!)
[01:25] <flaccid> dwidmann: its paying more than a lot of baseball bats
[01:25] <arctanx> baudthief: Seriously, just use the best tool for the job. You're never going to completely eliminate windows unless you join the church of st emcs
[01:25] <baudthief> but I'd never go back at this point
[01:25] <arctanx> emacs*
[01:25] <baudthief> LOL
[01:25] <flaccid> baudthief: my electronics mate is in the same position
[01:26] <arctanx> that reminds me
[01:26] <flaccid> he is down in glenfield
[01:26] <arctanx> I must get gfortran running on my ibook sometime
[01:26] <tarntow> how do u deal with sound suddenly gone? apart from logging out?
[01:26] <flaccid> heh
[01:27] <arctanx> and sed
[01:27] <flaccid> cat is not an editor nor is sed
[01:27] <arctanx> sure they are
[01:27] <baudthief> at least now Beryl isn't eating up all my ram after a few hours heh - upgraded nVidia drivers, so now I can leave my PC on overnight without it crashing :p
[01:28] <flaccid> how do you write to a file with cat
[01:28] <arctanx> bash redirect ;)
[01:28] <flaccid> that is not cat
[01:28] <flaccid> and thats appending
[01:28] <arctanx> damn, I've been out pedant-ed
[01:28] <flaccid> sick, i win!
[01:28] <Dargan> Put the cat on the keyboard :P problem solved :D
[01:28] <Dargan> haha
[01:28] <flaccid> that so rarey happens
[01:28] <flaccid> me0w
[01:29] <flaccid> +l
[01:29] <arctanx> :P
[01:29] <flaccid> time for massaman curry
[01:29] <flaccid> yeah im waiting for someone to do !offtopic
[01:29] <baudthief> thats gotta burn on the way out :p
[01:29] <dwidmann> hmm, joe looks like it could be interesting
[01:29] <flaccid> joe is easy and yeah cool
[01:29] <flaccid> simple
[01:30] <flaccid> bbs
[01:31] <Dargan> k, reload x time
[01:34] <Jenna> hey all, am suffering from this screen freeze/blank bug when I logout of my kubuntu session (7.04). was wondering if the kubuntu  7.10 (amd64)  is stable enough to try on my lappy ?
[01:34] <dwidmann> Jenna: should be
[01:35] <dwidmann> well, maybe
[01:35] <Jenna> dwidmann, speaking from experience ?
[01:36] <dwidmann> I have around half of my packages upgraded to gutsy atm ... (mostly because I'm still trying to catch up .... I keep getting FAPd though)
[01:37] <tarntow> any one here dual boot?
[01:37] <dwidmann> Reckon though, at this point, there's less than 2 months left before release. I wouldn't expect everything to be just perfect, but most of the bigger kinks should be worked out.
[01:37] <dwidmann> Until recently I dual booted Ubuntu and Debian :)
[01:40] <tarntow> dwidmann: i dual boot with windows...but each time i go back to ubuntu i would have to realign the screen...is there a less hassle way to sort that out once and for all?
[01:40] <dwidmann> There might be, I'm not sure ... I never heard of anything like that happening before.
[01:41] <arctanx> I've had it before.
[01:41] <arctanx> My solution was to get a screen that remembers the slightly different video modes and settings for each :P
[01:41] <tarntow> arctanx: did u find a fix?
[01:41] <arctanx> i.e., no, not really
[01:42] <tarntow> cheers
[01:42] <drevon> anyone have the adress to the irish ubuntu channel?
[01:42] <Jenna> rrrubutntu maybe
[01:43] <Jenna> rrrubuntu** maybe
[01:45] <tarntow> drevon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:47] <drevon> nice one :D
[01:54] <VoodooCrazy> Anyone any idea why ubuntu kills the power while booting from time to time?
[01:58] <sakthian> i want to run php in kubuntu,pls help how to get it
[02:01] <pag> !lamp | sakthian
[02:01] <ubotu> sakthian: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:01] <RichardH> !ping
[02:01] <ubotu> pong
[02:01] <enry> hi!
[02:02] <mohamed_> !freevo
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freevo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <RichardH> .
[02:04] <RichardH> !ping
[02:04] <ubotu> pong
[02:06] <radek> hi, I have a problem with Adept updater (adept notifier) I don't want to show possible update for SWScanner because new version doesn't work and Adept notifier still show me a possible update. Exist any way how can I disable update for this program? Thanx fo any answer
[02:07] <soa2ii> radek: search for a tutorial on apt-pinning
[02:08] <soa2ii> there you can set up packages that you just want in special versions/sources/etc
 Thanx much!
[02:08] <soa2ii> no prob
[02:15] <sakthian> pls tell how to install apache
[02:15] <Jenna> apt-get install apache maybe ?
[02:17] <aguitel> anyone have riptide driver for the sound?
[02:20] <sakthian> if i do apt-get install apache rpl from system as Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:20] <pag> sakthian, close all instances of Adept
[02:21] <pag> if they're already closed, please see:
[02:21] <pag> !aptfix | sakthian
[02:21] <ubotu> sakthian: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:22] <flaccid> !apache | sakthian
[02:22] <ubotu> sakthian: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:23] <sakthian> i cant get u "Adept"
[02:24] <soa2ii> sakthian: what?
[02:24] <Jenna> sakthian, : Adept install manager just like synaptic
[02:25] <Jenna> skthain: close all instances of any installers that ur using.
[02:26] <sakthian> now im installing lamp-server
[02:27] <flaccid> !find lamp-server
[02:27] <ubotu> Package/file lamp-server does not exist in feisty
[02:28] <soa2ii> :D
[02:28] <soa2ii> sakthian: why don't you install apache2 mysql php5 yourself?
[02:29] <sakthian> i dont no how to install it
[02:29] <soa2ii> sudo aptitude install <package>
[02:29] <soa2ii> for example
[02:29] <soa2ii> sudo aptitude install apache2 mysql php5
[02:29] <sakthian> when i went to the site given by u offered abt only this lamp
[02:29] <soa2ii> hm... one moment...
[02:29] <Jenna> !find apache
[02:29] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 160 others)
[02:30] <Jenna> !find smooch
[02:30] <ubotu> Package/file smooch does not exist in feisty
[02:31] <soa2ii> sakthian: try this packages here:
[02:31] <soa2ii> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/web/apache2
[02:32] <soa2ii> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/mysql-client
[02:32] <soa2ii> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/mysql-server
[02:32] <elitrou> hi
[02:32] <soa2ii> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/web/php5
[02:32] <elitrou> anyone worked with nokia 6288 USB cable?
[02:33] <soa2ii> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/web/libapache2-mod-php5
[02:33] <soa2ii> sakthian: do you need smth else?
[02:33] <soa2ii> this ones are for apache + mysql + php
[02:33] <sakthian> just a min
[02:34] <sakthian> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:34] <soa2ii> ok
[02:34] <soa2ii> :D
[02:34] <soa2ii> close adept and so on
[02:34] <soa2ii> just open a terminal ;)
[02:34] <neusonce> i have an inbuild card reader in my computer in the dvd slot  dose anybody know of  way i can mount it ?
[02:35] <elitrou> anyone ever worked with nokia 6288 here?
[02:35] <soa2ii> elitrou: no sry
[02:37] <flaccid> !adeptfix
[02:37] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:43] <x_link> Hi
[02:43] <x_link> I need some help with the kubuntu repo.
[02:43] <pag> !ask | x_link
[02:43] <ubotu> x_link: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:44] <x_link> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main
[02:44] <x_link> I wanted to ask, I was on my way typing 0)
[02:44] <x_link> =)
[02:44] <x_link> I need the key for that repo, can somebody help m e with that?
[02:44] <Jucato> it's on the kubuntu.org page
[02:44] <pag> x_link, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[02:44] <x_link> Okej, I will try to find it.
[02:44] <x_link> pag: Thanks!!
[02:44] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[02:45] <x_link> pag: Shouldl I right click and choose Save Link As?
[02:45] <Jucato> instructions on that page
[02:46] <pag> x_link, wget -q http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[02:46] <x_link> Damn,. now I have another problem.
[02:46] <x_link> I can't see anythign when I open /Home
[02:46] <x_link> Konqueror.
[02:46] <Jucato> how about ~
[02:47] <Jucato>  and it's /home not /Home
[02:47] <Jucato> case sensitive
[02:47] <x_link>  /home sorry
[02:47] <x_link> brb
[02:48] <x_link> So, now it's fixed.
[02:49] <x_link> pag: I will do that command now
[02:50] <x_link> pag: Thanks alot!
[02:50] <x_link> Now I just need to install KDE 3.5.7 instead of 3.5.6
[02:50] <pag> np :)
[02:51] <x_link> pag: Which KDE version do you use?
[02:52] <pag> x_link, 357
[02:53] <Creed205> morning everyione
[02:53] <pag> !hi | Creed205
[02:53] <ubotu> Creed205: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:54] <arctanx> 11pm here -_-
[02:54] <x_link> pag: Okej.
[02:54] <Creed205> hehe
[02:54] <x_link> pag: Would you like to help me a little bi?
[02:54] <Creed205> sorry... 9am here
[02:55] <Jucato> heh EST :P
[02:55] <pag> x_link, I'll help, if I can :)
[02:55] <x_link> Okej.
[02:55] <x_link> What should I do?
[02:56] <pag> x_link, like in general? go out and enjoy the fresh air :)
[02:56] <x_link> pag: Hehe
[02:56] <x_link> pag: I mean, how do I upgrade to 3.5.7?
[02:56] <pag> x_link, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:56] <x_link> I just re-installed yesterday. But I remember that I upgraded myself the last time. But I really don't remember how I did.
[02:56] <Jucato> x_link: um... you didn't read the link I gave? :(
[02:56] <x_link> Jucato: Which link?
[02:57] <x_link> pag: Ohhh right
[02:57] <x_link> That's the only thing I had to do.
[02:57] <x_link> I'm on 3.5.7 now
[02:57] <x_link> =)
[02:57] <Jucato> [20:44]  <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[02:57] <RichardH> !rpm
[02:57] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:57] <Jucato> bleh :P
[02:57] <x_link> Jucato: Thanks for the link =)
[02:58] <dwuomo> hola
[02:59] <RichardH> !YUM
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <deviance> When is dolphin due to be released
[03:01] <x_link> I really want to try out K DE 4.0 =)
[03:02] <wolfger> I installed 4.0 in Gutsy Tribe 5, but I don't see any option for *using* it...
[03:02] <ubuntu_> hello
[03:03] <ubuntu_> he?
[03:03] <wolfger> logged out, logged back in, (no 4.0 in options menu, just "KDE") and it was still 3.5
[03:03] <x_link> wolfger: Okey.
[03:03] <x_link> wolfger: What a shame =/
[03:04] <wolfger> LOL... at first I was thinking "Hmm. Looks the same"
[03:04] <pag> wolfger, see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php for instructions on how to get it to KDM-login options
[03:04] <wolfger> thanks, pag
[03:06] <kubuntu_58> bye
[03:07] <job424> I'm having issues getting ndiswrapper installed on kubuntu... any help?
[03:07] <job424> and please dont say !wireless
[03:07] <job424> I've been there.
[03:12] <deviance> !wireless
[03:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:12] <wolfger> LOL
[03:12] <wolfger> I saw that coming....
[03:12] <deviance> Yup
[03:13] <wolfger> okay, time to reboot and play with Gutsy/KDE4 for a bit. :-)
[03:13] <emilsedgh> wolfger: Beta2?
[03:14] <wolfger> Tribe 5, and whichever beta of KDE4 is in the repos
[03:15] <wolfger> Pag set me up with the instructions on how to add KDE4 to the login options, which I didn't previously know
[03:17] <emilsedgh> pag: is there Beta2 in the repositories?
[03:17] <pag> emilsedgh, not afaik
[03:18] <pag> emilsedgh, I haven't even seen official KDE announcement on its release..
[03:18] <emilsedgh> pag: oh so still waiting ;), I hope Beta2 packages will better, Beta1 was incomplemete
[03:19] <emilsedgh> pag: announcement will come in 6 days, Beta is being tagged and 1 seven days time for distro's to create packages
[03:19] <alejandro> hi
[03:19] <pag> emilsedgh, ok :)
[03:19] <pag> hello alejandro :)
[03:20] <alejandro> can anyone explain me why my firefox its in english when i m spanish?
[03:21] <pag> alejandro, do you have mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es installed?
[03:21] <emilsedgh> alejandro: maybe you have to install mozilla-firefox-locale-es
[03:22] <alejandro> i can find it in the add remove menu
[03:22] <emilsedgh> !mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es
[03:22] <pag> !info mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es > emilsedgh
[03:22] <emilsedgh> alejandro: go to Adept Package Manager
[03:22] <emilsedgh> pag: ah thanks
[03:24] <alejandro> ahh ok, thanks emilsedgh
[03:24] <emilsedgh> np alejandro
[03:27] <job424> Okay, so sending me !wireless was completely useless... can anyone actually HELP me? Not just type a command to present me with a generic response?
[03:29] <emilsedgh> jono: could I ask whats the problem? I have experience of running a wireless with ndiswrapper
[03:29] <pag> emilsedgh, maybe you mean job424 ? :)
[03:30] <emilsedgh> pag: ah damn! I dunno whats the matter with me today
[03:30] <emilsedgh> job424: yeah could I know whats the problem?
[03:31] <alejandro> !mirrors
[03:31] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[03:34] <Feudster> hello is it possible to dual boot xp and linux from 2 seperate hds?
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> yes, Feudster
[03:35] <Feudster> which hd should be master? the one with xp or linux
[03:35] <alejandro> someone knows a good mirror list?
[03:36] <alejandro> master of the universe
[03:36] <alejandro> xDD
[03:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:44] <pag> hey :)
[03:45] <alejandro> what is the diference between gutsy and fetsy?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> quiet, it seems
[03:45] <alejandro> gutsy must be inestable i think
[03:45] <alejandro> unestable sorry
[03:46] <alejandro> or not?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> Gutsy is still in beta
[03:46] <BluesKaj> not an official release
[03:47] <windwalker> Hi can somebody tell me how do I troubleshoot slow printing from cups 1.2.8 (KUbuntu 7.04) to 1.2.2 (KUbuntu 6.06)  (15 secs) against 1.2.2 to 1.2.2 (6-7 secs)
[03:48] <BluesKaj> !Gutsy | alejandro
[03:48] <ubotu> alejandro: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:49] <Daisuke-Laptop> it's shaping up to be a truly awesome release
[03:49] <alejandro> thanks BluesKaj
[03:51] <emilsedgh> the awesome release will be Kubuntu 8.10 :P
[03:51] <Daisuke-Laptop> looks like mostly incremental fixes, but the two things that impress me the most are the inclusion of the new applet to adjust graphic settings, and the mew print system (cups is a little old)
[03:51] <Daisuke-Laptop> emilsedgh: why's that
[03:51] <emilsedgh> Daisuke-Laptop: it will be the first kubuntu release with KDE4.x
[03:52] <emilsedgh> Daisuke-Laptop: I think KDE 4.1 will bw there as default
[03:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> ah, you're making the assumption that kde4 will be ready by that point
[03:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'm not holding my breath
[03:52] <wolfger> lol
[03:53] <BluesKaj> yes, I tried gutsy tribe 3 (64 bit )for a few days ..the print setp and networking was simple and worked well, not so for ati graphics ...I missed my google earth
[03:54] <radius> i'm using tribe 5 with ati on a laptop BluesKaj
[03:54] <radius> i have 3d working
[03:54] <wolfger> 8.04 is Hardy Heron, 8.10 is I* I*, 9.04 J* J*, so by 9.10 we can have Krazy Kde?
[03:54] <BluesKaj> which ati , radius , some are more equal than others :)
[03:55] <rjune_> what was g?
[03:55] <radius> ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[03:56] <pag> radius, Gutsy Gibbon ( 7.10 )
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yeah, the 9600 series are well supported , but the X200 isn't , yet
[03:56] <rjune_> pag: I asked, but thanks
[03:56] <pag> rjune_, I mean :)
[03:56] <radius> ah
[03:56] <BluesKaj> proprietary driver , radius ?
[03:57] <radius> i just loaded whatever comes with gutsy and this kernel
[03:57] <radius> Linux lnport 2.6.22-10-386 #1 Wed Aug 22 07:43:24 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:00] <BluesKaj> yeah radius , it prolly din't help that I optimistically tried the 64 bit version ...don't think it's been fully "fleshed out " as the saying goes .
[04:00] <radius> BluesKaj, ah could be
[04:01] <radius> BluesKaj, i have gusty on the laptop and feisty on the home pc - ati on the laptop and nvidia on the pc - got both working with 3d which makes for a nice kde
[04:01] <BluesKaj> cool ...sounds nice
[04:01] <radius> i've been using kde for years - kde is truly nice in this day and age
[04:03] <BluesKaj> yeah , agreed, I've even switched to konq as my default browser ...clean and fast :)
[04:12] <Arwen> ...fragmentation is not fun, I'm getting 10MB/s sustained read and even worse random...
[04:18] <sistec1> hola que tal
[04:18] <ubuntu> wtf? why is macromedia flash installing the pluginin firefox
[04:18] <ubuntu> ??
[04:19] <sistec1> soy nuevo en la comunidad linux
[04:19] <m4v3r1ck> sistec1: -> #kubuntu-es
[04:19] <sistec1> que cosa
[04:20] <DaSkreech> elite101: You installed Flash and it's installing firefox? that's quite impressive
[04:20] <m4v3r1ck> sistec1: kubuntu es un canal en ingls, para espaol ve al canal #kubuntu-es
[04:21] <raynerd> hello, got a question. I have just installed edubuntu on my works pc for when I start school next week, but I have no sound! I`ve been looking on net for past few hours and know that linux can see my sound card. I have also identified my soundcard in the Alsaproject. I cant see what I ment to do from here or anything to even download???
[04:22] <elite101> DaSkreech, no it was shockwave player
[04:22] <scribbles> can anyone help with this: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086145.0
[04:22] <windwalker> I asked a question about slow printing between cups 1.2.8 and cups 1.2.2 before 2-3 hours. It turned out to be problem in the cupsd.conf. I found this by editing the cupsd.conf via KDE print manager. It automatically replaces the config file and adds new options. This resulted in two times faster printing. I hope I am helping people using network printing (cups/samba)
[04:22] <raynerd> any help appreciated!!
[04:23] <DaSkreech> !sound | raynerd
[04:23] <ubotu> raynerd: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:24] <sistec1> como hago para conectarme con el servidor kubuntu-es
[04:25] <thingy> !pastebin
[04:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:25] <m4v3r1ck> !es | sistec1
[04:25] <ubotu> sistec1: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:26] <m4v3r1ck> sistec1: tipea "/join #kubuntu-es"
[04:26] <Arwen> Anyone here with a MS Windows installation? Does it choke on files with ':' in the name?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> !net install
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about net install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <BluesKaj> Arwen, what's the command to do a distro net install/upgrade. ? I've already edited my sources liat to Gutsy
[04:29] <Arwen> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:29] <BluesKaj> lis
[04:30] <BluesKaj> guess it is ... seems to be upgrading :)
[04:33] <DaSkreech> !windows | Arwen
[04:33] <ubotu> Arwen: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:33] <Arwen> DaSkreech, ...
[04:33] <Arwen> hint: there's a reason I'm asking
[04:33] <emilsedgh> anybody know that why strigi is not getting informed about my non-text files? audio, video,... ?
[04:33] <Arwen> hint: that link only proves arrogance
[04:33] <zipper> I have 2 soundcards in my pc (/dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1). How do i make amarok (or any other player) use my other soundcard?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Arwen: There is a chan for people who are likely to have windows installed
[04:34] <Arwen> yes I know, I'm in it
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Arwen: Same for any other distro
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Arwen: and no one knows?
[04:34] <fannagoganna> zipper, u have to use ALSA
[04:34] <Arwen> asked a few minutes ago, no reply
[04:34] <fannagoganna> are you using OSS?
[04:34] <dim> hello all, today when I installed kubuntu and when i 'sudo aptitude', i get the list
[04:34] <Arwen> I figure most of the people here have some kind of Windows or used to
[04:34] <zipper> fannagoganna, no idea to be honest. In sound settings it's on "automatic"
[04:34] <zipper> would guess that means ALSA?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Seriously? that chan is noramlly a buzz .. With trolls I'll admit
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Arwen: You want a : in the name?
[04:35] <dim> New Packages, Obsolete and Locally Created Packages and Virtual Packages
[04:35] <dim> only
[04:35] <dim> why is it so few
[04:35] <dim> before the list was more
[04:35] <ymsg> french room pls ubutu
[04:35] <dim> and when i search for firefox to install it,
[04:35] <radius> Arwen, creaeting the : or copying it to windows
[04:35] <Arwen> DaSkreech, I've got some files with that, wondered if Windows would crash or something because of it
[04:35] <Arwen> copying
[04:35] <BluesKaj> zipper, first : sudo asoundconf list , then , : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[04:35] <radius> sec
[04:35] <ymsg> ubotu    give me french room pls
[04:35] <dim> i have only mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb
[04:35] <radius> i'll create one and dump it over
[04:36] <DaSkreech> !fr | ymsg
[04:36] <ubotu> ymsg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:36] <dim> why is aptitude list so little?
[04:36] <excitatory> is there a way to make the kde clock background transparent? (i've been using kicker/panel in transparent mode, which is lovely, but every time i switch wallpaper, i have to manually match the clock colours)
[04:36] <fannagoganna> it might. What amarok uses is the xine engine. In the engine tab choose the output plugin to be ALSA
[04:36] <m4v3r1ck> Arwen: I know that windows chokes on files that start with a dot, dunno about ":"
[04:36] <DaSkreech> dim: you don't have repos ?
[04:36] <dim> DaSkreach: repos? I have only the installation kubuntu disc 7.04
[04:36] <dim> and nothing more
[04:36] <ymsg> ty ubotu
[04:36] <zipper> BluesKaj, hmm.... i know there is a GUI way of doing it, since i've done it before. Too bad i've forgotten =(. But if i use the console to do it, the name of the card would be like /dev/dsp1 ?
[04:37] <zipper> ah
[04:37] <zipper> nevermind
[04:37] <dim> but i want to get packages using aptitude but it doesn't offer enough, as it used before
[04:37] <BluesKaj> zipper ,lspci | grep audio to find the souncards
[04:37] <dim> and also when I am connected with dialup, konqueror doesn't open web sites, which is also strange
[04:38] <BluesKaj> er, lspci | grep audio
[04:38] <dim> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[04:38] <radius> Arwen, it renames the file - from zippy:folder tp Z7Y6H7~7
[04:38] <radius> tp/to*
[04:38] <dim> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[04:38] <dim> very strange things happening
[04:38] <DaSkreech> !repos | dim
[04:38] <ubotu> dim: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:38] <Arwen> radius, ok
[04:38] <dim> please help
[04:39] <dim> ubotu: but i am telling you that I can't open a single web site,
[04:39] <zipper> BluesKaj, asoundconf list and so on worked. Thanks a ton
[04:39] <dim> but the dialup connection is on, beause otherwise i wouldn't be here in irc
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !ubotu | dim
[04:40] <ubotu> dim: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:40] <pag> dim, try disabling knetworkmanager (if you're not using it to connect)
[04:40] <BluesKaj> NP zipper :)
[04:40] <zipper> BluesKaj, while we're at it... would it be possible to use both soundcards at once? output everything on both i mean
[04:41] <dim> pag: strange Knetworkmanager doesn't open, doesn't react
[04:41] <pag> dim, try alt+f2 -> killall knetworkamanager
[04:42] <dim> pag: i did, and tried opening a site with konqueror again, but no success
[04:43] <pag> dim, try restarting konq.
[04:43] <TooEarly> I have an ATI Radeon 9200 and I want to be able to use the svideo out to my tv. but when i plug it in it doesn't have a correct display. anyone know how to solve this?
[04:44] <dim> pag: no, doesn't work again, this is really strange, on my notebook it kubuntu works just fine
[04:44] <dim> the aptitude and konqueror and firefox all work properly
[04:44] <pag> dim, hmm.. dunno then - sorry
[04:44] <dim> pag: thanks for your try though
[04:45] <dwuomo> alguien de espaa
[04:45] <dwuomo> no puedo instalarme el beryl en mi kubuntu
[04:45] <Jucato> !es | dwuomo
[04:45] <ubotu> dwuomo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:46] <BluesKaj> zipper , dunno sorry
[04:46] <dwuomo> gracias
[04:51] <emilsedgh> how could I make Beryl/Aquamarine default?
[04:54] <jhutchins> Hmmmm... What opens .vsd files in linux?
[04:56] <llutz> jhutchins: cat :) what is vsd?
[04:56] <jhutchins> llutz: Danged if I know. Someone sent me a map.
[04:56] <TooEarly> how do i get my svideo output to work for an ATI Radeon 9200
[04:57] <excitatory> emilsedgh: you should really just move to compiz-fusion.. beryl is dead, but supported.  fusion is FAR more stable, and provides everything beryl does and then some.
[04:57] <llutz> jhutchins: .vsd = visio- 5 drawing...  display maybe
[04:57] <emilsedgh> excitatory: youre right, but beryl is in repositories, I really hate to have many repo's, specially unofficial ones
[04:58] <excitatory> emilsedgh: suite yourself.. but you're going to have to move anyway once gutsy is out.. plus the feisty eye-candy repo is damn stable.
[04:59] <emilsedgh> excitatory: yes, you are right, lets search ;)
[04:59] <emilsedgh> excitatory: and it support aquamarine?
[04:59] <excitatory> yes
[05:00] <emilsedgh> very well, so lets find it thanks excitatory
[05:00] <excitatory> emilsedgh: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/eyecandy/
[05:01] <emilsedgh> excitatory: thanks
[05:02] <encore>  anyone speak portuguese?
[05:02] <arash> I wonder if my sound card is correctly detected (my graphics card wasn't), was it some command that made the shell show what it thinks is the sound card I use?
[05:02] <arash> encore, you want help in portugese?
[05:03] <encore> Yeah, becouse my english is not very good
[05:03] <arash> !portugese | encore
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portugese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <llutz> !pt | encore
[05:03] <ubotu> encore: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:03] <encore> hun..
[05:03] <encore> tank's..
[05:03] <arash> portuguese it is :D
[05:03] <encore> than'ks
[05:03] <encore> hauha..=D..
[05:04] <encore> I can't make reight
[05:04] <encore> right
[05:13] <thingy> raynerd, hi..i know it didn't work
[05:13] <fulat2k> hi folks, anyone here using knetworkmanager to configure/maintain a usbwifi connection?
[05:14] <excitatory> so is it possible to make the kicker plain clock transparent?
[05:15] <zipper> excitatory, yes, but i dont know how
[05:28] <pepone> hi all, any body knows the name of the applet that shows cpufreq on kde system try in latest kubuntu
[05:28] <alex_> hi everybody
[05:29] <joco> hi everybody
[05:30] <m4v3r1ck> pepone: karamba?
[05:30] <joco> can somebady speeak in hungarian or romanian ?
[05:30] <pepone> i go to try it thanks m4v3r1ck
[05:31] <alex_> does somebody how to share files between Ubuntu and a windows network?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> superkaramba
[05:31] <DaSkreech> alex_: Samba or ssh if you can sftp
[05:31] <llutz> !samba | alex
[05:31] <ubotu> alex: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:31] <alex_> oops    ...+know
[05:32] <arash> !hungarian | joco
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hungarian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <radek> hi everybody, is there enybody with experience how to install scanner Canon Lide25 under Kubuntu Feisty? Snae doesn't work !
[05:33] <alex_> thanks guys, I've already installed Samba...and I can see the computer with ubuntu from windows, but when I try to get in it ask me for a pass which I haven't set up in ubuntu :-(
[05:33] <joco> ubotut hanks
[05:33] <joco> t
[05:33] <llutz> alex_: set it, smbpasswd
[05:34] <alex_> ok I'll try that llutz, thx
[05:34] <DaSkreech> !ro
[05:34] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[05:36] <DaSkreech> !hun
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <nagyv> could someone point me a good howto for apache. I am building my first server to host the family's websites, and would like to separate the domains in a secure way. I couldn't find anything, is this because virtualhost is secure by design?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> nagyv: when you say secure you mean passwords or hhtps ?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> https
[05:37] <DaSkreech> In any case #apache would probably be helpful
[05:38] <nagyv> DaSkreech: none, I just mean, that is one site is cracked then the others are still relatively safe, and their data is safe
[05:38] <nagyv> is=if
[05:38] <DaSkreech> ah
[05:39] <DaSkreech> depends on if they cracked the protocol the site or the server
[05:39] <DaSkreech> well more like the stream not the protocol
[05:41] <emilsedgh> how could I make Compiz (Fusion) default wm?
[05:42] <DaSkreech> emilsedgh: #ubuntu-effects
[05:42] <emilsedgh> thanks DaSkreech
[05:44] <nagyv> DaSkreech: I'm mainly affraid of my family members that they won't often install upgrades for their websites (mainly wordpress), and someone will crack the site
[05:45] <DaSkreech> nagyv: did you apt-get install wordpress ?
[05:45] <joco> I am new in linux, and i have Kubuntu 7.04, and I want to share files for Windows workstations. i have installed samba but when i want to acces from windows it request username and password
[05:45] <nagyv> DaSkreech: hmm, I am just planning how to do all the install, but this seems to be a good idea :)
[05:45] <joco> what can i do ?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> nagyv: That way anytime they do updates they get all security fixes
[05:46] <nagyv> DaSkreech: I know, I just didn't knew that wp can be accessed as a deb package, thanks!
[05:49] <venik> How do you set File Associations in Kubuntu?  I want .txt files to always open with Kate, for instance
[05:50] <DaSkreech> !default
[05:50] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[05:50] <venik> OK-- let me try it
[05:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[05:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Apparently unicode support is not complete on my machine. For example, when I look at some wikipedia page that has many translation, some symbol (mostly asian) only get shown as boxes
[05:52] <trolioso> in wich repo is the nvidia legacy driver
[05:52] <Chousuke> MilhousePunkRock: you need to install more fonts
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Oh read up on skim i think
[05:53] <Chousuke> nah, skim concerns input.
[05:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Chousuke: That sounds reasonable... Are there any metapackages?
[05:53] <Chousuke> this is purely a font issue
[05:53] <trolioso> and does kubuntu feisty has the restricted ddevices manager
[05:53] <Chousuke> MilhousePunkRock: I'm not sure
[05:53] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: I am not planning to input any kanji here...
[05:53] <Chousuke> MilhousePunkRock: just search the repos :)
[05:54] <MilhousePunkRock> trolioso: In October it will have it...
[05:55] <venik> thanks-- all set
[05:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmmm... Quoting some random wiki about Asian music here:
[05:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Linux
[05:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Many popular Linux distributions, including SuSE and Kubuntu, already have Asian fonts installed by default.
[05:56] <trolioso> MilhousePunkRock: oke but how do i install the nvidia legacy drivers in feisty
[05:56] <MilhousePunkRock> So I should have them...
[05:56] <MilhousePunkRock> !nvidia | trolioso
[05:56] <ubotu> trolioso: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:57] <MilhousePunkRock> trolioso: That should cover the legacy drivers too... It's pretty easy, actually, even without the restricted manager...
[05:58] <sebastien> hello
[05:59] <silivren> hello
[06:01] <ubuntu> do you knew some jabber klient for kubuntu?
[06:02] <llutz> ubuntu: kopete, pidgin
[06:03] <ubuntu> thanks
[06:04] <DaSkreech> !jabber
[06:04] <ubotu> jabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, unlike MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org
[06:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Chousuke: Asian characters aside, there must be something else with my Unicode because german umlauts don't always get displayed too
[06:06] <Chousuke> :/
[06:06] <Chousuke> Well, I have no idea about htat .
[06:06] <vikke> hello im having issues with my nvidia drivers. I use 8500GT. When i do nvidia-xconfig the graphical system stop work, anyone care to help?
[06:06] <Chousuke> that*
[06:16] <meson10> i wish to convert a divx vieo file, can anyone suggest me a tool?
[06:17] <jcolvin> can anybody help me with internet problems?
[06:18] <kary> what is the problem?
[06:18] <jcolvin> I can't view wireless networks
[06:18] <kary> what does iwconfig show ?
[06:18] <kary> in the first line
[06:18] <jcolvin> what's iwconfig? sorry i barely just got kubuntu up and running
[06:19] <kary> ohh, ok
[06:19] <kary> open up Konsole and type "sudo iwconfig"
[06:19] <jcolvin> ok
[06:20] <jussi01> kary: I dont think you need sudo there
[06:20] <kary> just to be safe
[06:20] <jussi01> kary: you dont, and its more unsafe than safe
[06:20] <kary> how is it unsafe
[06:21] <jussi01> kary: running anything as sudo when you dont need to can be unsafe
[06:21] <jcolvin> well it worked doing it both ways
[06:21] <jussi01> hey Jucato
[06:21] <kary> theoretically.  but, realistically in this situation it isn't
[06:21] <Jucato> hey
[06:21] <jussi01> kary: true, but there is absolutely no reason to, so why would you?
[06:21] <jcolvin> kary: i'm just wondering how i can view the available wireless networks in range
[06:21] <meson10> jussi01: in this case it wont'...as simple as sudo cat xyz doesnt hurt anyone, i make sense kary?
[06:24] <jcolvin> does anybody know how to bring back the wireless network icon in the system tray?
[06:25] <meson10> jcolvin: run 'knetworkmanager'
[06:26] <jcolvin> meson10: for some reason it won't open when i click it
[06:26] <meson10> jcolvin: click from the KMenu?
[06:26] <jcolvin> yeah
[06:28] <meson10> jcolvin: Hmm, a relogin works for me here
[06:28] <jcolvin> meson10: like restarting my system or logging out and logging back in?
[06:28] <meson10> log out + log in
[06:29] <meson10> jcolvin: times the icon dissappears for me as well
[06:29] <jcolvin> meson10: it just shows the icon if i was wired but i'm not. I'm connected wirelessly
[06:30] <meson10> jcolvin: aah
[06:30] <jcolvin> meson10: is this bad?
[06:31] <meson10> jcolvin: right click it, and see availbel wireless networks
[06:31] <meson10> jcolvin: state s anything about wireless networks?
[06:32] <jcolvin> nope
[06:32] <meson10> jcolvin: Hmm,  strange
[06:32] <jcolvin> meson10: it just says wired devices but nothing under that
[06:32] <jussi01> is there a bit where you can enable and disable wireless?
[06:33] <jcolvin> jussi01: yes and its enabled (i'm wireless right now) but I just can't view which networks are available
[06:33] <jussi01> if so, try disabling it then enabling it
[06:33] <jcolvin> i'm concerned because when i go to school how will i get to choose the school's wireless connection to connect to
[06:33] <jussi01> jcolvin: you running feisty or gutsy?
[06:34] <jcolvin> jussi01: feisty
[06:34] <jussi01> ok, so did the disable/enable do anything?
[06:34] <ctothej> CUPS-PDF outputs character symbols that are displayed correcly by pdf viewers but I cannot copy or search for text in the pdf! How can I change this? What is this?
[06:35] <jussi01> ctothej: i think this is more a kpdf problem, try installing acrobat reader
[06:36] <ctothej> jussi01: i did, and I get the same thing. display is fine, but i cannot search and when I copy text, it copies the symbols.
[06:37] <jussi01> ctothej: thats weird, has always worked for me.
[06:37] <jussi01> do you have all the fonts installed?
[06:37] <ctothej> jussi01: not sure
[06:37] <VoodooCrazy> i downloaded a new theme for the login window. how do i apply it?
[06:37] <jussi01> ctothej: you could try installing msttcorefonts and see if that helps
[06:38] <aljoscha> Hi, i want to access a network directory on a windows pc. But when I type the logindata, it doesn't work.
[06:38] <jussi01> VoodooCrazy: kmenu->system settings -> splash screen
[06:38] <jussi01> jcolvin: did that help at all?
[06:39] <jcolvin> jussi01: no
[06:39] <ctothej> jussi01: err, its already installed
[06:39] <aljoscha> Which logindata do I need to access the network directory? The login from the Windows PC!??
[06:39] <VoodooCrazy> kmenu?
[06:39] <jussi01> jcolvin: thats weird
[06:39] <jcolvin> jussi01: still cannot view any wireless networks but yet i'm connected to one
[06:40] <jussi01> VoodooCrazy: you know, the thing thats like a start menu in windows?
[06:40] <VoodooCrazy> yup.ah is that what its called
[06:40] <jussi01> jcolvin: I dont knwo right now, if i think of a solution Ill ping you
[06:40] <jcolvin> jussi01: thanks
[06:41] <VoodooCrazy> ok don't seem to have splash screen...
[06:41] <Zee1ot> hi, can someone help me burn a boot cd that is in .img format? K3B doesnt seem to burn .img files and I burned it with neroLinux but it doesnt seem to burn correctly(the cd doesnt boot)
[06:43] <thingy> Zee1ot, Some cd software like easy cd creator and nero don't do a sector by sectory image of the cd and hence don't capture the boot image on the cd...is this a window os cd by chance?
[06:43] <jhutchins> Zee1ot: Do file <filename> and see what it says - it might be an iso.
[06:44] <meson10> jcolvin: did u try relogin?
[06:44] <aljoscha> How can I access a network file of a computer with Windows XP?
[06:44] <jhutchins> Zee1ot: What did the file come from?
[06:44] <Zee1ot> thingy: this is a norton ghost boot disc, burned correctly from my windows machine using nero
[06:45] <jhutchins> What _CREATED_ the file?
[06:45] <jcolvin> meson10: i will in a couple
[06:45] <Zee1ot> pretty sure I did using clonecd? I dont remember
[06:46] <Zee1ot> file filename said 'data'
[06:46] <thingy> Zee1ot, look at this url: to see if it has a bootable image on it. http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp1_cd.htm You will need to download isobuster and follow the gist of the instructions to see if it has a bootable image on it
[06:46] <jhutchins> K, you'll need img2iso or isodump to convert it to an iso, then burn that.
[06:47] <jhutchins> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion#img2iso
[06:48] <jhutchins> Zee1ot: isodump is in genisoimage
[06:48] <jhutchins> !info genisoimage
[06:48] <ubotu> genisoimage: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.2-1 (feisty), package size 549 kB, installed size 1336 kB
[06:49] <Zee1ot> alright thanks
[06:56] <Alonea> its been a while since I have used my linux system and I was wondering if any headway has been made with ati cards? For instance, half the time I could/can not shut down my system due to fglrx (which so far has been the only thing to get any sort of 3d working). Also, majority of the time I cannot connect to my WPA network.
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Alonea: hi
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Depends on the card
[06:58] <DaSkreech> I think the R500 series now has OSS support
[06:58] <Alonea> wifi or ati?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> !wpa
[06:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:59] <DaSkreech> That has a page on WPA
[07:00] <Alonea> sometime it will connect and sometimes it wont. The main thing is I refuse to use knetwork manager cause it caused me more problems than solutions so I have been using wireless assistant. I might give it another go if some of the bugs have been taken care of
[07:01] <Alonea> I would use WEP, but then my Dad's computer has problems connecting to the internet.
[07:06] <ctothej> my CUPS-PDF output encodes pdf with some weird custom encoding. I cannot search or copy the text. The pdf document font properties say Encoding: Custom. How can I change this?
[07:07] <thingy> ctothej, umm try dpkg-reconfigure cups-pdf
[07:07] <drarem> is there a command I can use to do simple math, so I don't have to open up a calculator program, like..    calc 5*(3+2.5)
[07:07] <ctothej> thingy: ill try that now
[07:08] <ctothej> thingy: no change dude
[07:08] <hydrogen> yes
[07:08] <hydrogen> drarem: alt+space
[07:08] <hydrogen> brings up katapult
[07:08] <hydrogen> which can do that
[07:09] <ctothej> things: font details say "DejaVu_Sans.Bold.0.0.Set0(Embedded Subset)" !
[07:09] <Jucato> (katapult is actually more accurate than Alt+F2 in calculations)
[07:09] <llutz> drarem: "bc" in a konsole
[07:10] <thingy> drarem, or on the console you can use the expr command
[07:10] <hydrogen> mm
[07:10] <hydrogen> katapult is nice and quick :)
[07:11] <drarem> nice, thanks
[07:11] <thingy> ctothej, whats the source of the pdf file? are you printing form a browser e.g.
[07:12] <ctothej> thingy: firefox
[07:12] <thingy> ctothej, and the encoding for the page is?
[07:12] <ctothej> using cups-pdf as a printer
[07:12] <thingy> ctothej, View menu bar, character encoding
[07:13] <ctothej> unicode UFT-8
[07:13] <ctothej> *UTF
[07:14] <thingy> ctothej, choose western iso-8859-1 and try again
[07:15] <ctothej> thingy: same thing unfortunately. v-good idea though!
[07:16] <thingy> ctothej, can you rule out the browser as the cause...i.e. print from some other app
[07:16] <piyush_>  can any1 help me vth working of live cd??
[07:16] <ctothej> thingy, ill print from a text editor
[07:17] <ctothej> thingy: the encoding of the pdf ended up different, but still not normal
[07:18] <RichardH>  piyush_ what exactly do you need help with?
[07:18] <ctothej> thingy: Fonts used in pdf: T3Font_0, T3_Font_1 ...
[07:18] <ctothej> thingy: "Encoding: Custom" stilll
[07:18] <jcolvin> so my wireless networks are still not showing up
[07:19] <thingy> ctothej, ok then it does have an effect on the encoding...i couldn't find anything on google about cups pdf encoding
[07:19] <RichardH> jcolvin: have they ever shown up?
[07:19] <piyush_> actually i want to give seminar on working of live cds...linux based...but i have some problems...
[07:20] <RichardH> piyush_: ah, i think that may be way over my head then :P
[07:20] <jcolvin> richardh: they did and what's funny is that i'm connected to one but the network isn't showing up in the system tray
[07:20] <Sanne> ctothej (and thingy): not a solution to cups-pdf, but maybe you can try the pdf printer of kprinter?
[07:20] <RichardH> is it also a different icon?
[07:20] <piyush_> richardH:any direct channel for that?
[07:21] <RichardH> piyush_: not that i know of, sorry - im new though
[07:21] <RichardH> jcolvin: are you using KNetworkManager?
[07:21] <piyush_> richardH: ok fine :)
[07:21] <jcolvin> RichardH: it won't let me up Knetwork manager
[07:21] <ctothej> Sanne: trying now
[07:22] <jcolvin> RichardH: I keep trying to access it through the KMenu but the program won't load
[07:22] <ctothej> Sanne: no luck.
[07:22] <RichardH> jcolvin: hmm - i had this problem with amarok earlier
[07:22] <Sanne> ctothej: sorry to hear that...
[07:22] <RichardH> does it show up in the processes list if you do ctrl+esc?
[07:23] <jcolvin> richardh: yes it does with a green globe next to it
[07:23] <ctothej> thingy, Sanne: could it be due to the driver selected for the cups-pdf printer? my printer configuration says "Generic postscript color printer rev4"
[07:23] <RichardH> jcolvin: my solution with amarok was to kill the process, and then it loaded fine the next time
[07:23] <jcolvin> richardh: should i kill the process and try opening it again?
[07:23] <RichardH> jcolvin: ^ :P
[07:24] <thingy> ctothej, that brings to mind that it could be the cups printer configuration for the cups printer itself that could be setting the encoding...or the filters
[07:24] <jcolvin> richardh: still didn't load up...well i just did a fresh install of feisty could it be because i configured the wireless network manually? is that why no available wireless networks are showing up
[07:25] <ctothej> thingy: i'm not familiar with altering the cups configuration much.
[07:25] <winbond> why do i get disconnected every time i get [CTCP]  Received Version request from freenode-connect.
[07:25] <RichardH> jcolvin: have you got any icon in the system bar at the bottom to do with KNetworkManager? (even if when you click on it it only shows wired networks)
[07:25] <thingy> ctothej, if cups is runnign you use the web interface to connect to it: http://localhost:631
[07:25] <thingy> ctothej, or try: http://localhost:631/admin
[07:26] <ctothej> thingy: ok great im there
[07:26] <jcolvin> richardh: yes it shows wired but i'm connected wirelessly right now
[07:26] <RichardH> ok
[07:26] <RichardH> i had that problem yesterday
[07:26] <RichardH> i think its because i manually did the wireless network
[07:26] <thingy> ctothej, i dont have cups installed right now but see if you can see any config option for the pdf printer that specifies encoding
[07:27] <jcolvin> richardh: i did that too...now i can't see the available wireless networks
[07:27] <RichardH> my solution was to delete the network ESSID/WEP key, and then restart KNetworkManager
[07:27] <RichardH> it took a while
[07:27] <ctothej> thingy: i can only see page size and output resolution for the cups-pdf printer options
[07:27] <RichardH> i think i switched to offline mode, then back to online mode
[07:27] <jcolvin> richardh: how do i do that? i'm new to kubuntu
[07:27] <elite277> hey, for some reason my audio is really quiet, headphones are fine, just speakers.. Anyone have any idea? (system volume is full, mute off, no programs sapping volume)
[07:28] <RichardH> to quit it just right click the icon and click quit
[07:28] <ctothej> thingy: server configuration file has no encoding options in it
[07:28] <RichardH> to go offline, right click the icon>options>offline mode
[07:28] <winbond> why do i get disconnected every time i get [CTCP]  Received Version request from freenode-connect.
[07:29] <RichardH> if you do quit, its K menu thingy in the bottom left>System>KNetworkManager to restart
[07:29] <jcolvin> richardh: how do i delete the network esssid/wep key?
[07:29] <Jucato> winbond: I think you actually receive that CTCP request whenever you recoonect to freenode
[07:29] <wytry> czesc
[07:29] <RichardH> right click>manual configuration> choose your wireless card>configure
[07:29] <RichardH> and then just delete the text in the boxes
[07:30] <wytry> do you speak polish?
[07:30] <RichardH> !pl
[07:30] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:31] <ctothej> thingy: http://www.nabble.com/print-to-pdf-t3966835.html <-- talking about possible cups options with embedding fonts
[07:31] <winbond> elite277: go to mixer, there are usually 2 different tabs to regulate the volume, but in general, because of the drive there is less volume than if used with windows drivers
[07:32] <Lichte> why is there no inittab in /etc ?
[07:32] <elite277> Thankyou winbond, i'll check that now
[07:32] <Lichte> how do I know what the default multiuser mode is ??
[07:32] <thingy> ctothej, did you notice the post byt mathew r lee in the url you pasted? he suggests to replace gs-gpl with gs-esp since it made a difference
[07:33] <ctothej> thingy: i see what you are talking about. ill try that now.
[07:34] <Lichte> is the default multiuser mode 2, 3, 4 or 5 ?
[07:35] <elite277> Annoyingly i cant find mixer.. Someone?
[07:36] <ctothej> thingy, i uninstalled the ghostscript-gpl and reinstalled ghostscript-esp, no change.
[07:36] <ctothej> thingy: what is emerge?
[07:36] <thingy> ctothej, gentoo package management tool
[07:36] <ctothej> thingy: oh ok. i used synaptic, should i try some other command?
[07:38] <elite277> Annoyingly i cant find mixer.. Someone?
[07:38] <thingy> ctothej, did you see an option to embed fonts into the pdf in the cups webinterface. if so, was it enabled or not? if not enabled, enable and test
[07:38] <ctothej> thingy: not in the iterface where the person suggested. maybe I can edit a config file?
[07:39] <RichardBH> elite277: Kmix?
[07:40] <winbond> elite277: click or right click on the sound icon
[07:40] <elite277> I was having a problem with my speakers output being far to low volume whereas my headphones are fine, i was told Mixer may be able to help, i think i found it jsut now however and it's allready maxxed out, and i still dont understand why my headphones are fine and speakers not.
[07:40] <winbond> elite277: volume icon
[07:40] <RichardBH> elite277: do your speakers have their own volume control?
[07:40] <elite277> sweet jesus
[07:41] <elite277> Yes, it was allready maxed, the problem was for some reason Center speaker was set far to low
[07:41] <elite277> just scared myself sh!tless turning it up
[07:41] <RichardBH> lol
[07:41] <RichardBH> have you got surround sound?
[07:41] <elite277> If two speakers is surround sound.
[07:41] <RichardBH> hmm
[07:41] <RichardBH> thats stereo, not surround :p
[07:42] <ctothej> thingy: what should be default CUPS un/pw?
[07:42] <elite277> Then no. ;] 
[07:43] <RichardBH> if you have an option for centre speaker, i think it thinks that you do :P
[07:43] <elite277> meh, etherway problem fixed, now i can listen to Cake in a loud glory more deserving of them.
[07:44] <RichardBH> elite277: lol, ok
[07:45] <tucuna> does wifi with _native_ driver work from live-cd?
[07:46] <thingy> ctothej, un/pw ?
[07:46] <ctothej> thingy: i think it was just my login username and pw
[07:46] <thingy> ctothej, ah
[07:46] <ctothej> thingy: it prompted me to change the config options
[07:47] <ctothej> thingy: as that forum suggested, i changed the ppd to /usr/share/ghostscript/8.15/lib/ghostpdf.ppd. I am trying some of the font embedding options now
[07:47] <thingy> ctothej, ok
[07:49] <ctothej> thingy: no luck with that. i used the embeded font options and the encoding is still messed up
[07:50] <bcmm_> is there some nice GUI way to change my DNS server under kubuntu?
[07:51] <jhutchins> tucuna: Depends on the card I think.
[07:51] <bcmm_> i'm trying to tell someone over IM and knowing his level of skill i'd rather not have him edit resolv.conf
[07:51] <thingy> ctothej, can you upload one of those dummy/test pdf file somewhere i can access it
[07:51] <ctothej> sure
[07:51] <RichardBH> bcmm_: wait a sec
[07:52] <tucuna> jhutchins - ok, but if the card works out-of-the-box when installed (which it does from Dapper to Feisty - bought from Linux Emporium), should it then also work on live-cd?
[07:52] <tucuna> or still depends?
[07:52] <jhutchins> tucuna: There's a way to find out for sure, and it's pretty quick.
[07:52] <RichardBH> bcmm_: right click on the KNetworkManager icon in the system tray, and click manual configuration
[07:53] <RichardBH> put in your password
[07:53] <ctothej> thingy: http://www.uploading.com/files/OMWY79IF/_Nabble___gentoo_user___print_to_pdf_.pdf.html
[07:53] <bcmm_> RichardBH: thanks
[07:53] <RichardBH> then go to the Domain Name System
[07:53] <RichardBH> ill assume you can cope from there :P
[07:53] <bcmm_> RichardBH: i can assign the IP by DHCP and the DNS manually right?
[07:53] <tucuna> jhutchins - pu in the cd? hehe... it is in, but dont seem to work just yet, then I googled and found little, then thought I'd take the easy way out and ask here...
[07:53] <thingy> ctothej, eh? it converted the pdf into an html :-(
[07:54] <ctothej> thingy: its a download service, i just searched for a free file upload service
[07:54] <ctothej> thingy: it should allow you to download the file
[07:54] <jhutchins> tucuna: So it's booted, but not running the card?
[07:54] <ctothej> thingy: granted you have to wait 25 seconds...
[07:55] <RichardBH> bcmm_: i assume so - i only converted to linux last week, so im not sure
[07:55] <thingy> ctothej, does the url work for you?
[07:56] <ctothej> thingy: yes it did, but the long one i sent you is the direct link i get when I wait the 25 seconds
[07:56] <tucuna> jhutchins - yes, booted and the card is recognised in system settings, but cannot configure it to DHCP with the ESSID - it says: default gateway is wrong (or similar error msg) - which is odd, since DHCP should not be assigned a gatway manually, but by ther DHCP server upon request..
[07:56] <ctothej> thingy: using mediafire instead...
[07:57] <ctothej> thingy: http://www.mediafire.com/?3ukmubmvuz5
[07:57] <jhutchins> tucuna: I'd use the console tools to walk through it and see where it's failing.
[07:58] <bcmm_> RichardBH: thanks
[07:59] <bcmm_> i've been using linux a while but don't use kubuntu
[08:00] <RichardBH> bcmm_: no problem
[08:03] <tucuna> jhutchins - hmmm.. did lspci, card is there and recognised, then /etc/init.d/networking restart, which returns: no such device
[08:04] <jhutchins> I guess there's your answer then - either the driver's not there or it's not a working version.
[08:04] <jhutchins> You can always go through the full install process, but you're installing to ram.
[08:05] <jhutchins> I think it's an omission that there's no "permanent storage" with the live CD's that would make a file/folder on a Windows partition to store settings/data.
[08:08] <_Frank_> hello
[08:09] <elvis> tere
[08:15] <snarf> hi
[08:16] <underdog5004> !hi
[08:16] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:18] <elite101> hello
[08:19] <TheInfinity> can anybody solve this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=563910 problem?
[08:19] <TheInfinity> the first post is exacly my problem ...
[08:20] <kaminix2> How do I enable SCIM in OpenOffice?
[08:23] <Alonea> what do I need to play a midi file?
[08:24] <jhutchins> !midi | Alonea
[08:24] <ubotu> Alonea: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:25] <jhutchins> kaminix2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[08:25] <kaminix2> jhutchins: I'll have a look, thanks.
[08:26] <Alonea> thanks
[08:38] <neusonce> hey guys  could any one tell me any easy way to configure wine to pick up my printer ?
[08:40] <neusonce> n/m
[08:40] <Budwaa> neusonce: cups is what you need i think
[08:44] <neusonce> !cups
[08:44] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:45] <hannes999> wohin muss ich die ffentlichen schlssel schreiben fr ein paket? z.b. den gpg keyserver subkeys.pgp.net recv-keys 81836EBF
[08:49] <elite101> omg 389nicks
[08:49] <elite101> 390*
[08:49] <deichgraf> and still counting
[08:49] <elite101> lol
[08:49] <elite101> ahh 389 :(
[08:49] <elite101> i wanna see 500*
[08:51] <ubuntu> hey can someone help me i have installed kubuntu but when i boot from harddisk it says Loading GRUB... Error 18
[08:51] <elite101> 391 :)
[08:51] <elite101> 392
[08:51] <elite277> stole my name omg
[08:51] <elite101> :(
[08:51] <ubuntu> hey can someone help me i have installed kubuntu but when i boot from harddisk it says Loading GRUB... Error 18
[08:51] <elite101> i had it first*
[08:51] <elite101> for like 5months
[08:52] <elite277> lmao, i've been elit2e77 for 7 years
[08:52] <elite101> change it
[08:52] <elite277> *elite277
[08:52] <elite101> please
[08:52] <elite101> :( its confusing
[08:52] <Arwen> /dev/sda5             62579672  61979816    599856 100% /home <-- DO NOT WANT
[08:52] <elite101> plus i password this name
[08:52] <sayanriju> does the KUBUNTU gutsy ver include compiz fusion by default??
[08:52] <llutz> Arwen: rm -rf ~/pr0n :)
[08:52] <elite277> How about this, i'll google elite277, and elite101, whoever has the most relivent hits keeps.
[08:52] <Arwen> #ubuntu+1, but yes
[08:52] <Arwen> sayanriju, ^^
[08:53] <elite101> :(
[08:53] <elite101> okay
[08:53] <elite101> and elite_hacker ;)
[08:53] <elite101> im on youtube and no many sites also
[08:53] <elite277> I could around 11 for you
[08:53] <elite277> *count
[08:54] <elite277> I could over 4 pages of me.
[08:54] <jcolvin> need help about external hard drives
[08:54] <elite101> 11?
[08:54] <elite277> * count
[08:54] <jcolvin> i connected it to my laptop but i can't find it anywhere
[08:54] <elite277> Yup, youtube, abunch of community stuff, and this IRC as well
[08:54] <elite101>  559 pages for elite277  1,090 for elite101 wuuu!!!!!!!! i won
[08:54] <elite101> i won
[08:54] <elite101> change your nick
[08:54] <elite101> :D i won
[08:54] <elite101> thank you google
[08:54] <elite277> incorrect, i said relivent pages
[08:55] <TheInfinity> freaks
[08:55] <TheInfinity> :p
[08:55] <fab> halo
[08:55] <elite101> ohh wel you cant count all pages
[08:55] <elite277> Your name is more common, 101 is a well used number.
[08:55] <elite101> i won
[08:55] <elite101> exact
[08:55] <elite101> i won :)
[08:55] <elite101> change it
[08:55] <elite101> change it to Elite101-isalwaysrite
[08:55] <elite101> ERRRRRr
[08:56] <eliteisgay> ;)
[08:56] <elite277> Clad i'm not elite ;o
[08:56] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> there we go
[08:57] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> 2,620,000 pages off elite :)
[08:57] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> 101*
[08:59] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> i think i will stay with my nick now Elite is overrated :(
[08:59] <MikeMcA> Hi.  I upgraded from dapper to feisty and adept is no longer accessible from kmenu.  Has it been replaced by a new package manager or something?  Thanks!
[09:00] <csanders> MikeMcA: what happens when you try to run it from the command line
[09:00] <cox377> does anyone know a command for restarting all usb devices or a usbdevice? IE KVM switch?
[09:01] <MikeMcA> nothing.  it appears to have been uninstalled.  just wondering (hoping?) if it had been replaced by something else or if I should just reinstall it
[09:01] <dwidmann> MikeMcA: run sudo apt-get install adept
[09:01] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> :( why is there a elite277 :(
[09:01] <dwidmann> MikeMcA: or perhaps sudo apt-get install --reinstall adept
[09:01] <MikeMcA> so, that's a "no" then
[09:01] <dwidmann> Right.
[09:02] <MikeMcA> thx
[09:02] <hannes999> elite277: why do you want a private chat with me?
[09:02] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> :( he is weird i want my nick back
[09:02] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> he ruined my nick
[09:02] <TheInfinity> because he loves you sooo much :)
[09:02] <dwidmann> XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX: should have registered it then.
[09:02] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> i did
[09:02] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> but he has it as 277
[09:02] <dwidmann> XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX: and you had it as?
[09:02] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> :( i wanna register everthing with elite
[09:02] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> elite101
[09:03] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> i will make 5,000 elite names possible and register them all
[09:03] <dwidmann> XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX: Guess it's a popular word.
[09:03] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> yeah but i never ran into another elite befor now i have?
[09:03] <XxD3ATHSLAY3RxX> :S he is coppying
[09:03] <TQuid> Hi folks.
[09:04] <elite101> there we go :(
[09:04] <dwidmann> elite: umm gee, there are only 38,000 people on freenode right now, forbid there should ever be another elite :P
[09:05] <elite101> well i never in my life ever saw the name elite at all now there is lol
[09:06] <elite101> wow 395 nicks
[09:06] <elite101> almost 400
[09:06] <TQuid> So, anyone know how I can get libgcrypt 1.2 without messing up existing apps so I can get bloody pidgin-otr working?
[09:07] <TQuid> Or if there is some other way? i tried the backport from landure but I get an error when I try to turn on otr.
[09:07] <dwidmann> elite101: perhaps after the 404th joins the channel will not be found
[09:08] <dwidmann> TQuid: hmm, these things can always be done the hard way (ie: from source)
[09:09] <TQuid> yeah, that's what i'm looking at dwidmann--no stranger to installing from source but I'm hoping it won't be a primrose path of one dependency after another. if I get libgcrypt & install from source is that gonna screw the pooch on other crypto?
[09:10] <elite101> ahahah this is funny
[09:11] <elite101> someone on my MSN sent me this thing someone likes you its site Image shack and it has a .zip folder its a windows virus lol i will be happy to open it up (im runnning on the livecd too)
[09:11] <dwidmann> TQuid: install it in a different directory (ie: /usr/local, /opt), that way there's zero chance of hosing anything else
[09:12] <dwidmann> elite101:hehehe
[09:12] <elite101> :) i feel imune im extracing the zip folder now
[09:13] <elite101> oh  no dont virus my linux while im runnin on the livecd
[09:13] <TQuid> yeah. OK. Been a while. i've gotten really spoiled with .deb-based distros. Obviously I should be using Gentoo.
[09:13] <dwidmann> TQuid: hahaha. I know that feeling
[09:14] <dwidmann> especially spoiled with Kubuntu really.
[09:14] <TQuid> Now, where the hell is the project page for libgcrypto?
[09:16] <elite101> omg are people who make virus any dumb?
[09:16] <TQuid> Ah, I see, it's part of gnupg.
[09:16] <elite101> dumber lmao IMAGESHACK>LISABABE.exe
[09:16] <elite101> who is going to open that?
[09:16] <elite101> lmao dumb windows "hackers"
[09:17] <dwidmann> http://directory.fsf.org/security/libgcrypt.html
[09:17] <dwidmann> elite101: most of them anymore aren't necessarily dumb, just well paid.
[09:17] <wardancr> Hi, I have a problem with my kubuntu 7.04 setup and install CD. I had to replace my motherboad (asus m2a-vm hdmi) and now I can't boot into kubuntu anymore (but windows will work)
[09:18] <elite101> lol thats soo stupid thou
[09:18] <elite101> haha i laughed my self todeath
[09:18] <elite101> lol so i opend it
[09:18] <dwidmann> wardancr: does the live cd boot?
[09:18] <elite101> :) i will do this at the library
[09:18] <wardancr> I tried booting with recovery and the kernel seems to stop after identifying the hard drives. I also tried booting with the install CD, disabled the quiet option and I see the same results
[09:18] <wardancr> dwidmann: no :(
[09:19] <wardancr> I tried unplugging each hard drive in case that was the problem and it doesn't to help
[09:19] <dwidmann> wardancr: what versions have you tried?
[09:19] <wardancr> so far only 7.04 (that's what I had on hand)
[09:19] <wardancr> but 7.04 was (and is) installed on the very same hardware
[09:19] <dwidmann> wardancr: might not have any luck with older ones, maybe Gutsy Tribe 5 will boot
[09:20] <dwidmann> wardancr: the motherboards a pretty critical component, can't count it out.
[09:20] <wardancr> dwidmann: but it's the same motherboard, I didn't change models
[09:20] <zelva> Is here Freddy Martinez, please?
[09:20] <dwidmann> wardancr: It *could* be a problem with the motherboard, and/or its firmware version.
[09:21] <wardancr> does anybody know what the kernel tries to do after identifying the hard drives in the boot sequence?
[09:21] <|FrOstiE|> its the heart of the system
[09:21] <wardancr> dwidmann: I guess it could, but it's working well enough for Windows. I would have expected at least an error message if something went wrong
[09:22] <nodesert> oh my god i have file system error.Can i fix this. When i try to run fsck without any argument on live CD, there is nothing happened
[09:22] <TQuid> Grrrrr.
[09:23] <wardancr> if it was something like a communication error with one of the devices, there would be some error message, but I have nothing. If I try to boot normally I just have a black screen
[09:23] <TQuid> Now "lib/cpp" fails a san. check.
[09:23] <elite101> lol iknow i can take that virus and then once it destroys there windows machine i can offer them linux
[09:23] <elite101> ^^
[09:23] <TQuid> I should just upgrade to Gutsy.
[09:23] <TQuid> Can that be done without blowing off my existing system?
[09:24] <dwidmann> TQuid: if you have a free partition
[09:25] <dwidmann> elite101: I wouldn't try that, they might try to offer you a boot sandwhich o.O
[09:25] <ymsg> hey ubotu  how are you
[09:26] <elite101> lol
[09:26] <elite101> cant touch me nanahahnahah
[09:26] <TQuid> dwidmann--tell me more. This is under LVM so I could make a new part there. Or does it have to be a fully separate partition?
[09:26] <dwidmann> I've never tried to boot from a partition on an L
[09:26] <dwidmann> **L
[09:27] <dwidmann> **LVM
[09:27] <dwidmann> (this is w hat I get for typing at a weird angle)
[09:27] <TQuid>  /boot has to be !LVM, but the rest is fair game.
[09:27] <dwidmann> Yeah, pretty much
[09:28] <dwidmann> should be anyhow, and if it's not, I'm sure it'll let you know ;)
[09:29] <wardancr> anyway, I'll try downloading gutsy and see if I get different results. I'll come back later once I tried it
[09:29] <dwidmann> good luck wardancr
[09:30] <wardancr> It would suck to not be able to use or at least reinstall kubuntu
[09:30] <wardancr> well thanks anyway, bye
[09:34] <enotee> i keep getting  "OPC failed. Probably the writer does not like the medium."  when i try to burn a cd does anyone have suggestions
[09:36] <dwidmann> I'll be right back. I'm going to reboot into gutsy :)
[09:36] <dwidmann> wait, I'd better check which if any packages got held back first ...
[09:37] <enotee> i keep getting  "OPC failed. Probably the writer does not like the medium."  when i try to burn a cd does anyone have suggestions
[09:38] <dwidmann> Okay, that explains why it stopped detecting my battery o.O
[09:38] <dwidmann> enotee: have you tried it with a different disk?
[09:38] <enotee> yes
[09:38] <dwidmann> (preferably a different brand, or perhaps different type)
[09:43] <mauro_> ciao
[09:43] <dwidmann> enotee: what version of kubuntu are you using? version of growisofs (or cdrecord if you're talking about a cd) version of k3b?
[09:46] <mauro_> italiani?
[09:48] <dwidmann> wow, there are some interesting improvements in the gutsy upgrade system :D
[09:50] <RichardBH> !it
[09:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:50] <RichardBH> mauro_: ^
[09:52] <RoterKobold> hello
[09:52] <RichardBH> hi
[09:53] <dwidmann> ooooh, that's not good, looks like there's a bug in guidance-power-manager in gutsy :O
[09:54] <raynerd> anyone know much about customising an edubuntu CD. I`m a teacher I want to completely remove the install option off the live disk. Please pm if u can help or lent advice
[09:54] <raynerd> :-(
[09:54] <dwidmann> raynerd: I recommend searching the ubuntuforums.org site, this question has come up there before
[09:55] <_moose_> 'lo, everyone.
[09:55] <BrightEyes`> help friends.i want to make my microphone work..any ideas? its a simple microphone connected on my onboard sound card
[09:56] <llutz> raynerd: maybe this helps you http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/
[10:01] <_moose_> BrightEyes`, what hardware are you using?
[10:02] <shark> hi
[10:03] <mike_moose> Hi shark
[10:03] <demonspork> I am having a problem with ktorrent.  I am running Ubuntu 7.04 feisty and ktorrent keeps crashing, it happens sometimes within 30 minutes of launching it, and sometimes it will run for 3 days before crashing.  Here is the KDE Crash Handler Backtrace data http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35828/
[10:03] <BrightEyes`> moose_: emmm asrock is my motherboard.where i can find that info?
[10:04] <shark> i need hlp for broadcom wireless card
[10:04] <mike_moose> BrightEyes`, It's a desktop, then? Custom build?
[10:04] <shark> lappy
[10:04] <RichardBH> shark: any idea which one?
[10:04] <shark> compaq
[10:05] <RichardBH> shark: no, the type of broadcom chipset
[10:05] <RichardBH> !wifi
[10:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:05] <BrightEyes`> mike_moose: yes its a desktop :)
[10:05] <shark> yeah
[10:05] <shark> not connectin
[10:06] <RichardBH> shark: give me a sec, theres a link that might save you a lot of time
[10:06] <mike_moose> shark: You might want to look at the output of `lspci`
[10:06] <shark> k take ur tiime
[10:07] <RichardBH> shark: actually, yeah - can you open a Konsole, type lspci, and try and work out what type of broadcom card it is?
[10:08] <RichardBH> likely to be a line which says 'Broadcom 43xx', where xx is a number
[10:08] <shark> i have a lil problem
[10:08] <shark> thing is m using linux for first time
[10:08] <RichardBH> lol
[10:09] <RichardBH> i was in the same position 5 days ago :P
[10:09] <shark> mm impressed
[10:09] <RichardBH> youre using Kubuntu, yeah?
[10:09] <shark> yeah
[10:09] <RichardBH> and is it that you just cant see any wireless networks?
[10:09] <shark> my wireless card is not detected
[10:09] <RichardBH> ok
[10:09] <shark> i can use thru lan
[10:09] <shark> cable
[10:10] <RichardBH> yeah
[10:10] <RichardBH> basically, the problem is that you havent got the driver
[10:10] <shark> yuo
[10:10] <shark> yup
[10:10] <shark> wer can i find it
[10:10] <RichardBH> now, depending on the exact type of card, either theres a linux driver, or you can use the windows one through a program called NDisWrapper
[10:11] <shark> heard bout it
[10:11] <RichardBH> ok
[10:11] <shark> wer do i get it
[10:11] <RichardBH> you need to work out which one you need first
[10:11] <shark> which is easy
[10:11] <shark> ??
[10:11] <RichardBH> click the blue K bottom left>System>Konsole
[10:11] <RichardBH> yeah, its easy
[10:12] <RichardBH> when the black box opens, type    lspci    (LSPCI in lower case) and hit return
[10:12] <dwidmann> rather than using lspci, you can use "sudo lshw -class network" to get to it.... should work
[10:13] <RichardBH> a whole load of information should scroll past really quickly
[10:13] <shark> hold
[10:13] <shark> wer is k console
[10:14] <RichardBH> blue k icon in the bottom left>System>Konsole
[10:14] <BrightEyes`> help friends.i want to make my microphone work..any ideas? its a simple microphone connected on my onboard sound card(ALi M5455 with ALC850)
[10:14] <shark> k then
[10:16] <shark> got it then
[10:16] <RichardBH> cool
[10:17] <shark> m in consol
[10:17] <RichardBH> right
[10:17] <RichardBH> let me just open my own one
[10:19] <RichardBH> shark: type     lspci          and hit return  (thats ell-ess-pee-see-eye in lower case)
[10:20] <RichardBH> tell me when youve done that
[10:20] <shark> I DID DAT
[10:20] <RichardBH> ok
[10:20] <shark> got my sys info
[10:20] <RichardBH> right
[10:20] <shark> now??
[10:20] <RichardBH> is there any line which has the word 'broadcom' in it?
[10:21] <shark> ya 4311 unknown device
[10:21] <RichardBH> ok
[10:21] <RichardBH> !wifi
[10:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:22] <RichardBH> let me just get the link that you need
[10:22] <shark> k thanx budd
[10:22] <edulix> hi
[10:23] <zgmf-x20a> drif_: hey drif_ are you here?
[10:23] <RichardBH> sorry, this PC is 13 years old, itll take a minute or so
[10:24] <shark> hah chill
[10:24] <shark> wer r u
[10:24] <zgmf-x20a> anyone know where i can find the java runtime environment in the repos WITHOUT having to use the 7.04 cd?
[10:24] <RichardBH> shark: uk
[10:25] <shark> cool
[10:25] <linux_user400354> how can i allow other people on the lan to browse to http://my.ip:631?
[10:25] <RichardBH> have you still got that Konsole open? if you have, could you highighlight the line that says broadcom in it, edit>copy, then paste it in here?
[10:26] <shark> 0000:03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev                    01)
[10:26] <RichardBH> thanks
[10:27] <RichardBH> since youre new to linux like me i guess you want the easy way? :P
[10:27] <zgmf-x20a> anyone know where i can find the java runtime environment in the repos WITHOUT having to use the 7.04 cd?
[10:27] <shark> yeaaaah
[10:28] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[10:28] <RichardBH> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[10:28] <RichardBH> download the 'offline installer'
[10:29] <RichardBH> do everything up to and including instruction #3, but tell me when you get there because it'll actually open the file for editing rather than run it
[10:29] <shark> sudo aptitude update
[10:30] <RichardBH> hmm yeah, youd better do that too
[10:30] <RichardBH> after you type the first line, itll ask you for a password
[10:30] <RichardBH> put in -your- login password
[10:31] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: still get the message in terminal.  Media change: please insert the disc labeled Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417) in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[10:32] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: comment out the CD in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <zgmf-x20a> how do i get around the cd thing?  the reason is my cd rom drive isnt working yet with this version of linux.... argh... its my new laptop
[10:32] <mneptok> then update
[10:33] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: erm, i have no idea how to do that.  do you have any idea how to get the cd rom drive to recognize?
[10:33] <zgmf-x20a> that would make life much easier
[10:34] <mneptok> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:34] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: if that was for me, im nto running gnome
[10:35] <mneptok> what are you running?
[10:35] <aguitel> anyone give me name fo download manager ?
[10:35] <mneptok> oh, duh
[10:35] <mneptok> sorry, missed the # i'm in.
[10:35] <zgmf-x20a> kubuntu 7.04
[10:35] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: lol
[10:35] <mneptok> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <shark> m in step 3
[10:35] <mneptok> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.04 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20070418)] / gutsy main restricted
[10:36] <mneptok> ^^^ make sure thhe # is there ^^^
[10:36] <mneptok> save and exit Kate
[10:36] <ubuntu_> im following a howto it says to make sure  dpkg --configure -a gives no errors but it gives loads
[10:36] <mneptok> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[10:36] <ubuntu_> mneptok isnt gusty gibbon 7.10
[10:36] <mneptok> ubuntu_: yes
[10:37] <mneptok> ubuntu_: my install is a dist-upgrade
[10:37] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: woah,,,,  your getting me really confused.... so this will permanently make my cd rom drive work for every type of media i put in?  b/c it currently doesnt
[10:37] <mneptok> ubuntu_: my sources.list is a thing of horror and pain
[10:38] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: no, it will stap apt from asking for the Ubuntu CD when you want to install stuff
[10:38] <mneptok> *stop
[10:38] <arash> Hi, If I have several headphone and loudspeakers plugged in, can I decide which that should make the sounds? I'ld be really glad if it got fixed, even if switching meant restarting X each time
[10:38] <rc-1> is it possible to replace sources.list with debians list and then dist upgrade?
[10:38] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: ok, so how do i do that, what exactly am i supposed to put in?  its not ugbuntu, its kubuntu btw, feisty
[10:39] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: open a terminal
[10:39] <mneptok> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:40] <mneptok> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070418)] / gutsy main restricted
[10:40] <mneptok> ^^^ make sure thhe # is there ^^^
[10:40] <mneptok> save and exit Kate
[10:40] <prak> does anyone know how to mount an external hard drive with ntfs-config setup and with the hard drive failed to mount during start up again?
[10:40] <mneptok> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[10:40] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: do i put it at the beggining or the end, bc that line is already at the top
[10:40] <prak> i've tried to mount and umount the hard drive and having problems with the fstab
[10:40] <prak> terminal printout: http://www.pastebin.ca/677232
[10:40] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: add the # to the line you have
[10:41] <mneptok> at the beginning of the line
[10:41] <mneptok> save and exit Kate
[10:41] <mneptok> etc tec
[10:43] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: i think doing that messed up my pc...........
[10:43] <AdrianaFox> hi I just installed a dual boot setup with XP and Ubuntu and windows for some reason isn't in the boot loader so I was wondering how I may go about adding it
[10:43] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: not if all you did was type #
[10:44] <RichardBH> shark: hows it going?
[10:44] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: that is all i typed, and then when i did the sudo line to get it, it gave me an error, and now adept wont open either...
[10:44] <shark> hello richard
[10:44] <shark> u der
[10:44] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: what was the error?
[10:45] <RichardBH> yeah
[10:45] <RichardBH> sorry
[10:45] <prak> does anyone know how to mount external hard drives with mount and umount commands?
[10:45] <RichardBH> if you want to get my attention, just put RichardBH at the start of your message and it highlights it
[10:45] <RichardBH> have you got to step3?
[10:46] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:46] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it
[10:47] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: close Adept and any other apps you have open
[10:47] <prak> RichardBH: i'm having problems as displayed on http://www.pastebin.ca/677232
[10:47] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: only one package management app can run at a time
[10:47] <prak> it seems that my external hard drive mount changes every time i boot kubuntu
[10:47] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: yup i knoe that, the only thing i have open is this, konversation
[10:48] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: no terminals, no updater app?
[10:48] <RichardBH> prak: im probably not the person to ask - im new to linux this week
[10:48] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: nothing except this window
[10:48] <RichardBH> i just have first hand experience with shark's problem :P
[10:48] <prak> RichardBH: who would you recommend
[10:48] <prak> ?
[10:49] <RichardBH> anybody who dive in who knows about that kind of thing
[10:49] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[10:49] <shark> hi
[10:50] <shark> m in 3rd step
[10:50] <RichardBH> hey
[10:50] <shark> here
[10:50] <RichardBH> when you clicked th efile, did it open in Kate?
[10:50] <prak> i'm having problems as displayed on http://www.pastebin.ca/677232 with an external hard drive that appears to change mount locations every time
[10:51] <shark> yeah
[10:51] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:51] <mneptok> prak: don't use /dev entries in fstab. use UUIDs.
[10:51] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:51] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: rm that file, too
[10:52] <prak> !uuid
[10:52] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:52] <keith_> test
[10:52] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: sorry, how?
[10:52] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[10:52] <shark> i have kate
[10:52] <RichardBH> shark: ok, bear with me a second
[10:53] <shark> sure
[10:53] <wardancr> I tried booting with the Tribe 5 CD and I get the following error: [0.61600]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14.0
[10:53] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: ok, and then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin???
[10:53] <wardancr> any idea how to determine what device this is?
[10:53] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[10:53] <drif_>  /msg zgmf-x20a what did I say :D just msg me
[10:53] <drif_> :D
[10:54] <prak> mneptok: should i be following the UUIDs instruction as outlined in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?
[10:54] <mneptok> wardancr: /j #ubuntu+1
[10:54] <zgmf-x20a> drif_: heyyyyyyyyyyy whats up!!  lol i tried but i have to register to be able to do that and just got sorted after a few days of chasos
[10:54] <AdrianaFox> ok I still can't get my nvdiai glx driver working
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> zelva was looking for me? how odd. don't know the nick
[10:55] <RichardBH> shark: click the button labelled 'terminal' near the bottom og the kate window
[10:55] <mneptok> prak: just replace the /dev/sd* in your fstab with /dev/uuids
[10:55] <RichardBH> shark: then type         ./installer.py
[10:55] <RichardBH> and see what happens :P
[10:56] <prak> mneptok: like http://www.pastebin.ca/677252 ?
[10:56] <mike_moose> Anyone else running kubuntu gutsy on an X61?
[10:57] <shark> i pressed terminal
[10:57] <shark> nothin much is happenin
[10:57] <AdrianaFox> is there something I have to install with my nvidia glx drivers to get my system to actually boot the gui
[10:58] <RichardBH> shark: a kind of sub window should open over the bottom half of the window
[10:58] <RichardBH> with a thing saying shark@.....
[10:58] <shark> ya
[10:59] <mneptok> prak: no.
[10:59] <shark> shark@shark-laptop:~/Desktop/bcm43xx-gtk-installer-0.3.1$
[10:59] <RichardBH> ok
[10:59] <mneptok> prak: the fstab tells the system what to mount, where, what it is, and what permissions it has
[10:59] <mneptok> prak: you need to create mount points for each disk you want to mount
[11:00] <RichardBH> cool
[11:00] <prak> !uid
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <RichardBH> shark - now type ./installer.py and hit return
[11:00] <prak> !uuid
[11:00] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:00] <mneptok> prak: then you mount /dev/disk/by-uuid to /some/mount/point/you/made
[11:01] <mneptok> prak: /dev/sd* shauld not appear except in lines generated by the installer
[11:01] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: wicked!!!  it worked!!!!!!!!!  thanks mneptok!!!!!!!!!!
[11:01] <mneptok> zgmf-x20a: no worries
[11:01] <shark> ImportError: No module named pygtk
[11:02] <mneptok> prak: the problem you're having is that /dev/sdb is sometimes *this* USB port, sometimes *that* one. the UUID never changes.
[11:02] <AdrianaFox> is there something I have to install with my nvidia glx drivers to get my system to actually boot the gui
[11:02] <shark> shark@shark-laptop:~/Desktop/bcm43xx-gtk-installer-0.3.1$
[11:02] <RichardBH> shark:  i was afraid that was going to happen :)
[11:03] <prak> mneptok: so should i get rid of all external sd*'s and let the installer create a new one by uuid?
[11:04] <RichardBH> shark: i need to close this window because its about to crash my computer
[11:04] <RichardBH> in this program, can you type          /join #temp
[11:04] <RichardBH> (or even just click on the word #temp)
[11:07] <sanzanric> is there a psp emulators  for linux
[11:07] <mike_moose> shark - you might need one of the "python-gtk" packages
[11:07] <shark> oh
[11:07] <shark> from wer do i get dat
[11:07] <BrightEyes`> i can hear my voice when speaking to my mic but when im trying to have a conversation in skype it doesnt work.anyone to help?
[11:07] <mike_moose> Adept Manager, type in python-gtk into the search field.
[11:08] <shark> man sooo many procedures
[11:08] <mike_moose> shark, Thats linux. :)
[11:09] <prak> mneptok: would this help me figure out the uuid stuff with my hard drive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID?
[11:11] <arash> Hi, If I have several headphone and loudspeakers plugged in, can I decide which that should make the sounds?
[11:13] <alejandro> multiplayer games on linux?
[11:13] <enry> goodbye!
[11:13] <arash> alejandro, you want to know about games that are multiplayer on linux?
[11:13] <alejandro> yes
[11:14] <arash> !games | alejandro
[11:14] <ubotu> alejandro: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:14] <arash> there are some there
[11:17] <dk1> Hey
[11:17] <dk1> I need a little help configuring my intel gma 3100
[11:21] <arash> dk1 , this channel is quite dead :p, tried your luck in Ubuntu?, seems like ur prob is one that can happen with any Desktop environment
[11:21] <BrightEyes`> how can i load these modules ? : modprobe snd-pcm-oss & modprobe snd-mixer-oss
[11:22] <prak> if i get mount: unknown filesystem type '' during a mount command, does it mean the hard drive isn't in the fstab file?
[11:22] <VSpike> prak probably .. what's the mount command you were using?
[11:23] <prak> VSpike: sudo mount -l /media/sdb1
[11:24] <prak> tried to umount it too
[11:24] <prak> but terminal says my hard drive is already unmounted
[11:25] <underdog5004> when I try to connect to my isp via dialup, it connects, then kicks me off after 2 seconds. Here is the error log, if anyone wants it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35843/
[11:25] <VSpike> prak: you probably will have to issue a full mount command
[11:26] <VSpike> prak: did you "grep sdb1 /etc/fstab" ?
[11:27] <VSpike> prak: something like "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1"
[11:27] <VSpike> prak: what file system is it?
[11:27] <zgmf-x20a> mneptok: hey do you know anything about installing display drivers at all??
[11:28] <zgmf-x20a> or anyone else in here know anything?  i found the file i need to use, but not sure how to go about installing it
[11:29] <prak> VSpike: formatted in ntfs
[11:29] <prak> !grep
[11:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:29] <prak> VSpike: what does grep do?
[11:30] <VSpike> prak just searches for a pattern
[11:30] <VSpike> prak: just to see if "sdb1" occurs in your fstab
[11:30] <VSpike> prak: you could try "pmount /dev/sdb1"
[11:30] <prak> !pmount
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <prak> VSpike: grep returns "UUID=A8941F97941F675A /media/sdb1"
[11:31] <prak> b/c i tried to mount it by UUID
[11:31] <prak> what does pmount do?
[11:32] <llutz> pmount (1)           - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user
[11:32] <MarcC> When I empty the trash it tells me it can't find a file it's supposed to delete - how do I get it to stop trying to delete it?
[11:33] <prak> VSpike: i've managed to mount it, but i can't read or write from it
[11:33] <VSpike> prak: is that the whole line you pasted above? because that's not a valid fstab line
[11:34] <VSpike> prak: did pmount do it? and how do you know it mounted if you can't read it or write it?
[11:34] <prak> VSpike: UUID=A8941F97941F675A /media/sdb1 defaults,utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1
[11:34] <llutz> ^^ at least missing filesystem
[11:34] <VSpike> agreed
[11:35] <KDEfanboy> im trying to remove a problematic device module.. when i do rmmod -f on it, it givse "Resource temporarily unavailable" anyone know how to unload from the kernel aside from rebooting the entire system
[11:36] <VSpike> prak: try UUID=A8941F97941F675A /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults,utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1
[11:36] <Karti> !ati
[11:36] <prak> VSpike: http://www.pastebin.ca/677292
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:36] <prak> that's after i tried pmount
[11:36] <Pooh22> is anyone experiencing problems with flash (youtube) at the moment? Firefox and konqueror both crash where it worked just fine yesterday...
[11:36] <KDEfanboy> Pooh22: how long ago
[11:37] <prak> thanks, VSpike
[11:37] <prak> got it mounted
[11:37] <Pooh22> KDEfanboy: yesterday morning (from my perspective, it's 23.37 here)
[11:37] <prak> i guess i'll ask if there are more problems
[11:37] <MarcC> uh oh, new kernel upgrade available
[11:38] <VSpike> prak: do you need write access too?
[11:38] <prak> yes
[11:38] <KDEfanboy> Pooh22: but you didnt try videos today except the problem ones
[11:38] <KDEfanboy> ?
[11:38] <VSpike> !ntfs-3g | prak
[11:38] <ubotu> prak: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:38] <prak> VSpike: i already installed and configured ntfs-3g
[11:38] <VSpike> prak: ahh okay
[11:39] <Pooh22> KDEfanboy: I tried videos that worked yesterday, but also the main site and video.google.com
[11:39] <VSpike> prak: unmount it first, then try "UUID=A8941F97941F675A /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 1"
[11:40] <Pooh22> KDEfanboy: hmm, trying again right now, and it seems to work again
[11:40] <x_link> Hi
[11:40] <x_link> Did it come a new kernel to Kubuntu today?
[11:40] <KDEfanboy> ok
[11:40] <x_link> I just did sudo aptitude upgrade and it upgraded my kernel.
[11:40] <x_link> 2.6.21-16-386
[11:40] <MarcC> x_link: yes, there's a new one there
[11:40] <x_link> Before I had -generic at the end.
[11:41] <x_link> But not anymore.
[11:41] <x_link> MarcC: Ohh okej =)
[11:41] <Pooh22> KDEfanboy: yup, also the one that didn't work earlier, I guess it was a problem with the downloaded flash app... (I hate flash apps!)
[11:41] <x_link> When I used Debian I "had" to use a kernel for amd-processors.
[11:41] <x_link> -k7.
[11:41] <x_link> Is there anything like that in Kubuntu as well?
[11:41] <MarcC> x_link: there used to be, not anymore...I think it's an improvement
[11:41] <llutz> x_link: not longer, -generic will suit almost all cpus
[11:42] <NickPresta> x_link, I'm using a generic kernel and I have an AMD processor. It works fine.
[11:42] <x_link> llutz: Well, I don't use -generic anymore.
[11:42] <x_link> I just did sudo aptitude upgrade and it upgraded my kernel.
[11:42] <x_link> NickPresta: I know it works fine, it worked just fine for me without -k7 on Debian as well. But still =)
[11:42] <NickPresta> heh. I understand
[11:43] <x_link> Cause if there is a kernel specificly for AMD 64 x2 processors then I want to use it =)
[11:43] <x_link> NickPresta:  ;D
[11:43] <benutzer> Hallo
[11:43] <x_link> Well well, I just wanted to make sure.
[11:43] <x_link> Thanks!
[11:43] <x_link> Damn I'm bored as hell.
[11:43] <NickPresta> !hi | benutzer
[11:43] <ubotu> benutzer: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:43] <MarcC> x_link: I have different options available: generic, lowlatency, and ___ (blank)
[11:43] <x_link> Just installed gtk-recordmydesktop. But it laggs alot.
[11:43] <MarcC> sounds like you got the blank one
[11:43] <x_link> MarcC: Okej, I don't understand what you mean, but okej =)
[11:44] <NickPresta> x_link, how so? You have to fiddle around with the settings to get the best picture.
[11:44] <benutzer> wie gehts euch
[11:44] <MarcC> x_link: I mean, the one you now have, I have an option for that too (doesn't say "generic")
[11:44] <x_link> NickPresta: There was something like this in Beryl as well, but when I'm recording it's lagging.
[11:44] <bryan_> after a few minutes of just going to youtube the page freezes. What could cause the problem?
[11:44] <MarcC> okej? :D
[11:44] <MarcC> hej hej hej
[11:44] <x_link> MarcC: hehe okej ;D
[11:44] <vlt> Hello. I want to change the resolution and freq of my monitor. when I open "System Settings" -> "Hardware" -> "Display" I get "The module Display could not be loaded". It's the same behavior for al users. What to do now?
[11:44] <x_link> MarcC: Are you swedish?
[11:44] <MarcC> no, I'm Danish, fedt ik'?
[11:44] <x_link> Ahha okej, jag r svensk =)
[11:45] <MarcC> j/k I'm from California
[11:45] <x_link> Ohhh okej.
[11:45] <x_link> I have alot of cousins thre.
[11:45] <x_link> there.
[11:45] <x_link> alot of them.
[11:45] <NickPresta> x_link, I'm using Beryl and gtk-RMD works very well. I made a small youtube video of Beryl in action and it's fairly smooth
[11:45] <MarcC> but my blood is swedish (offtopic)
[11:45] <MarcC> Linde, Oslin, etc.
[11:45] <x_link> NickPresta: When I look at the video it's okey, but during the time I'm recording it's lagging.
[11:45] <x_link> NickPresta: I have a short video on youtube as well.
[11:45] <x_link> MarcC: Okej
[11:45] <x_link> ;D
[11:46] <NickPresta> x_link, I don't know what to say. What video card do you have?
[11:46] <prak> VSpike: it's mounted good for now
[11:46] <prak> we'll find out after it restarts
[11:46] <prak> btw
[11:46] <prak> i have one more problem
[11:46] <x_link> NickPresta: AMD Athlon 64 x2 3600+ @ 3GHz, 2GB DDR2 800Mhz @ 883Mhz, GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3
[11:47] <BrightEyes`> can anyone help me with my microphone?? i can hear my voice from the speakers but i cant record anything!
[11:47] <x_link> NickPresta: It doesn't lagg like ALOT, but it sure does lagg.
[11:47] <NickPresta> x_link, hmm. Sounds fine. I have a similar setup. Let me run gtk-RMD again...
[11:47] <vlt> The version is Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 LTS. What is the name of the Display module program?
[11:47] <MarcC> x_link: I use reKordmydesktop and it works great, try it
[11:47] <MarcC> plus it's a KDE app
[11:47] <x_link> MarcC: That's what I'm using.
[11:47] <x_link> Recordmydesktop.
[11:48] <x_link> NickPresta: Frames Per Second, what did you set that to?
[11:48] <MarcC> x_link: I thought you said GTK-recordmydesktop?
[11:48] <x_link> It's the same thing.
[11:48] <MarcC> x_link: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/reKordmydesktop?content=55760
[11:48] <VSpike> prak: good news - ok read and write?
[11:48] <x_link> gtk is ust graphical fronted.
[11:48] <NickPresta> x_link, I just tried it with video quality to 100. 15 FPS, Encode on the Fly disaled, Zero compression disabled, Quick SS disabled and Full Shots enabled.
[11:48] <prak> VSpike: read and write
[11:48] <VSpike> prak: coolness :)
[11:48] <VSpike> prak: what was the other question?
[11:49] <MarcC> x_link: no, recordmydesktop is the backend, reKordmydesktop is a Kommander script for the front-end
[11:49] <prak> it's related to an IDE called Piklab
[11:49] <MarcC> x_link: I'd recommend you use it instead of the GTK one.
[11:49] <x_link> OKej.
[11:49] <VSpike> prak: don't know it at all
[11:49] <x_link> MarcC: I will try it tomorrow.
[11:49] <sorush20> my keyboard sometimes becomes unresponsive what can I do?
[11:49] <x_link> I will watch a movie now with my girlfriend
[11:49] <MarcC> x_link: I've made many videos with it and it works great
[11:50] <x_link> OKej.
[11:50] <x_link> It works great for me as well when I play the video, but not very good when I'm recording, then it laggs a bit.
[11:50] <x_link> Now I must go.
[11:50] <x_link> Thanks for everything and see you guys tomorrow
[11:51] <MarcC> okej
[11:51] <prak> VSpike: ok
[11:51] <NickPresta> bye
[11:51] <sorush20> can someone help me with my problem my keyboard becomes unresponsive sometimes why?
[11:52] <MarcC> sorush20: does it become unresponsive in any particular app?
[11:52] <MarcC> have you tried a different keyboard?
[11:52] <NickPresta> sorush20, explain more. USB keyboard, Wireless, etc?
[11:52] <sorush20> no not really I usually have amarok running and firefox
[11:52] <sorush20> NickPresta: it's a ps2 keyboard not a year old.
[11:53] <vlt> Any idea how to change KDE's display resolution and display freq settings?
[11:53] <NickPresta> sorush20, does it work flawlessly in other operating systems on another computer?
[11:53] <MarcC> vlt: you mean besides the control center?
[11:53] <sorush20> its responding now
[11:53] <NickPresta> !display | vlt
[11:53] <ubotu> vlt: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:54] <sorush20> NickPresta: I will have to check but one thing is the key point is that the num lock key freezes and will not trun off or on
[11:54] <sorush20> that is how  I know it has crashed
[11:54] <sorush20> but the mouse works find
[11:54] <sorush20> fine
[11:55] <vlt> MarcC: I tried the "Display" dialog in "System Settings" but it says "The module Display could not be loaded".
[11:56] <vlt> MarcC: I also tried as another user. The same problem.
[11:56] <Flare> Weird
[11:57] <vlt> It's Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 LTS (KDE 3.5.2)
[11:58] <krisx> argh crashed my kubuntu gutsy
[11:58] <sorush20> how do I get my other extra function keys on the keyboard to function?
[11:58] <elite101> hello
[11:59] <krisx> hello
[11:59] <elite101> how do i set a password on my nick?
[11:59] <elite101> its like slash something
[11:59] <elite101> "/"
[12:01] <elite101> some people really have band internetconnections
[12:01] <elite101> ^^^^^
[12:02] <MarcC> vlt: graphics card and driver?
[12:02] <elite101> some one is ignoring me*
[12:03] <elite101> MarcC, who is VLT? he hasnt been online since 4mins?
[12:04] <elite101> X_link :)
[12:05] <vlt> MarcC: None.
[12:05] <MarcC> vlt: can you post your xorg.conf at the pastebin?
[12:05] <vlt> MarcC: The clients all do `ssh -X`.
[12:05] <MarcC> oh
[12:06] <dwidmann> :D Gutsy seems to purring along pretty smoothe on my laptop ... even better than Feisty, now I'm impressed.
[12:07] <krisx> yeah its sweet
[12:07] <vlt> MarcC: The X servers run on the clients's machines. One of the users got a weird KDE setting I want to change.
[12:08] <elite101> how do i make it so that i cant see when people sign in and out
[12:08] <zgmf-x20a> hey for 7.04 how do we get mp3 support?
[12:08] <MarcC> vlt: ssh adds a level of obfuscation to your troubleshooting...sorry I can't help much there.
[12:08] <krisx> dwid what version you running
[12:08] <MarcC> vlt: maybe best to check in #kde if nobody here responds
[12:09] <elite101> amourok?
[12:09] <zgmf-x20a> hey for 7.04 how do we get mp3 support?
[12:09] <elite101> amourok?
[12:09] <elite101> vlc mediaplayer?
[12:09] <Sanne> elite101: in konversation, you can right click on a channel tab and deselect "enable notifications". I *guess* tha t does it (never tried)
[12:09] <zgmf-x20a> i am using amarok yah, and simply playing the file doesnt bring up the dialog box to dl the codec anymore
[12:09] <elite101> lol okay
[12:09] <hydrogen> install libxine-extracodecs
[12:10] <hydrogen> Sanne: nah
[12:10] <elite101> it works
[12:10] <hydrogen> Sanne: thats enabled by default
[12:10] <elite101> thanks Sanne,
[12:10] <hydrogen> Sanne: and it highlights the channel if someone talks in it
[12:10] <zgmf-x20a> elite101: sounds good,  that wont mess up my vlc instalation though will it?
[12:10] <hydrogen> so now you won't see if anyone talks in a channel either
[12:10] <elite101> vlc is good
[12:10] <elite101> it plays any file format (well almost any)
[12:11] <zgmf-x20a> yah i know, but i like the gui and development with amarok
[12:11] <elite101> sudo apt-get install vlc (make sure to have universe and multiuniverse resiptores enabled)
[12:11] <elite101> yeah tru
[12:11] <zgmf-x20a> i use vlc for video type files
[12:11] <elite101> yeah
[12:11] <hydrogen> codeine++
[12:11] <elite101> well i dont know but i tried an mp3 file and it downloaded the Codec for me
[12:12] <elite101> in amarok^
[12:13] <krisx> anyone know when creatives gonna release there code for zen vision and xfi
[12:14] <zgmf-x20a> elite101: now amarok wont even open at all............
[12:15] <elite101> XD?
[12:18] <adenicio> i have problems with adept menager,here is the error at this site pastebin"http://pastebin.com/m2e444181"
[12:19] <elite101> lol adenicio
[12:19] <adenicio> i have problems with adept menager it'ss not installing nothing,here is the error at this site pastebin"http://pastebin.com/m2e444181"
[12:19] <adenicio> elite101: no its not a flash problem :-p
[12:19] <elite101> do you speak english?
[12:20] <adenicio> no i dont
[12:20] <mrksbrd> has anyone used ubuntu ultimate?
[12:20] <adenicio> mrksbrd: wa is that?
[12:21] <adenicio> i have problems with adept menager it'ss not installing nothing,here is the error at this site pastebin"http://pastebin.com/m2e444181"
[12:22] <mrksbrd> customized version of ubuntu
[12:22] <adenicio> elite101: to speak english im using a tradiction engine :-/
[12:23] <adenicio> tradiction???
[12:24] <adenicio> i have problems with adept menager it'ss not installing nothing,here is the error at this site pastebin"http://pastebin.com/m2e444181"
[12:24] <mrksbrd> adenicio, u have to post it in english
[12:25] <adenicio> mrksbrd: mmm how to get in the french ch?
[12:27] <mysticgohan> salut les gens
[12:28] <mrksbrd> adenicio, #kubuntu-fr
[12:29] <adenicio> mrksbrd: it say it maybe had problem with downloadin packs.or the aplication of the changing maybe brack
[12:31] <vers> how do you enable 'universe'
[12:32] <vers> anyone?
[12:32] <elite101> lolz
[12:32] <elite101> i know i know
[12:32] <elite101> we all know
[12:32] <elite101> open up adept
[12:32] <vers> lol
[12:32] <vers> ok
[12:32] <elite101> okay?
[12:32] <elite101> just a sec lol
[12:32] <elite101> go into file
[12:32] <elite101> on the top
[12:33] <elite101> then manage res.
[12:33] <vers> ight man...im not 3
[12:33] <elite101> lol
[12:33] <elite101> ;)
[12:33] <elite101> okay are u at the Manage page?
[12:33] <vers> no..i can remember this
[12:33] <vers> lol
[12:33] <elite101> vers, are you at the manage res page
[12:33] <elite101> okay so you got it?
[12:34] <elite101> vers, you got it?
[12:34] <vers> im getting on adept now
[12:35] <elite101> err
[12:35] <elite101> is it loaded?
[12:35] <vers> yeah
[12:35] <vers> im sorry
[12:35] <elite101> okay now go into the Adept tab
[12:35] <vers> ok
[12:35] <jussi01> !kde4
[12:35] <elite101> and then select Manage respitorys
[12:35] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Alpha 2 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php>.
[12:35] <elite101> i cant spell it but w/e
[12:35] <vers> you cant
[12:36] <knapp> Can someone help me figure out how to listen to NPR on their site. For example, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14045422
[12:36] <vers> click it that is
[12:36] <elite101> yeah
[12:36] <fannagoganna> supposedly there is a KDE 4 Live CD based off OpenSUSE. I haven't gotten OpenSUSE's shitty boot loading to recognize my CD drive
[12:36] <vers> its not clickable
[12:36] <fannagoganna> it's an external CD drive.