[12:35] mhm anyone know how to build/make a livecd? [12:35] elite101, #ubuntu should have instructions on that. there's a factoid [12:35] errr [12:35] i just went from #kubuntu to #ubuntu-motu now #ubuntu xD [12:35] ok well hold on [12:36] <_MMA_> superm1: Whats up? [12:36] TheMuso, ah okay. well hugin svn version is desired for qtpsfgui which just got accepted from REVU. Not necessary, but recommended. So xtknight filed a UVFe, but a few of the functions in hugin svn don't work [12:36] elite101, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization [12:36] xtknight, has the two of the them handy i think === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] urrr. not what i really wanted [12:36] so we wanted to make sure that disabling those two wouldnt hurt ubuntu studio at all [12:36] superm1, TheMuso actually one is fine, it compiles it was just disabled by default. im having trouble getting the other to compile at all [12:37] <_MMA_> superm1: Which functions? [12:37] _MMA_, zhang_undistort currently is the only program which does not compile with hugin SVN [12:37] which should be part of hugin-tools [12:37] blueyed, heheh [12:37] yeh i'm good [12:37] just off to bed [12:37] - zhang_undistort, correct barrel distortion, using zhang's algorithm. [12:37] tired [12:37] I don't think https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+builds has had an i386 build all day [12:38] ossurayynot, mythbuntu-meta's i386 and mythstream's i386 went through today [12:38] cbx33: fine. sleep is good.. in fact I'm drunken so I can sleep "well".. brush your teeth and say goodbye.. :D [12:38] <_MMA_> Personally Im not for crippling functionality in one app to make another work. Does the SVN fix any current bugs? [12:39] superm1, hmm, ok [12:39] ossurayynot, also very very early in the morning today, i submitted mythbuntu-artwork-usplash which built i386 and amd64 [12:39] _MMA_, the SVN has an app which is more or less needed for another program going into Gutsy (align_image_stack for Qtpfsgui). it would be really helpful if this program was in, at least [12:39] superm1, That I think I may have seen before going to bed actually [12:40] _MMA_, i think zhang_undistort was deprecated as it was commented out but i can give you a definitive answer if i get a reply on the hugin mailing list === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] <_MMA_> xtknight: Sure. If we can get an answer that would be great. Honestly Im not even sure how it would impact Hugin but since I use it regularly I would hate to find out. ;) [12:42] elite101: what more did you want? [12:42] _MMA_, heh well only improvements i hope. but all i really need is align_image_stack. maybe there's way to grab that out of the svn and keep the rest of it? === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving."] [12:43] xtknight, you could always grab the sources that contain align_image_stack from svn [12:43] and add that a cdbs/dpatch [12:43] to the hugin source [12:43] ok. was wondering if that was considered "messy" [12:43] <_MMA_> xtknight: Im unsure. Like I said, Im just not for potentially hurting one app to help another into the repo. [12:43] well i mean maintaining it will be a bit messy [12:44] but once you do it once, you can keep up with the patches as long as you remember how you did it [12:44] if the answer i get from the list isnt satisfying then i will go that route [12:45] yea i'd imagine since its just a sep app, you could patch the Makefile to build the other app, and add the directory of sources for the other app too [12:45] i think it's just one cpp file [12:45] even easier then :) [12:45] but you never know how well it works with the rest of the old hugin [12:46] would it be preferable to do [new hugin svn w/ zhang_undistort fix] or [old hugin+align_image_stack] ? [12:47] <_MMA_> I would think the latter. === s4kito [n=s4kito@200.92.206.74] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] ya we would always wait until beta5 to package a whole new hugin. since this is just SVN since beta4 that's already in there. there haven't been any 'releases' since the version in gutsy (beta4) [12:48] <_MMA_> But thats just me because I know "old hugin" works. :) [12:48] could* [12:48] See you later [12:49] actually latter method will make packaging a lot easier too ;) [12:49] <_MMA_> \m/ [12:51] one thing, i didnt know if ripping out part of hugin's other pkg and sticking it in this one was "legal". i know the gpl allows a lot of things but im sure there are some limitations? === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-110-120.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-112-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neh [n=neh@S01060016b619a773.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === s4kito [n=s4kito@200.92.206.74] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Saliendo"] === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] evening [01:45] wb zul [01:45] ty LaserJock [01:47] hello zul, LaserJock [01:47] hi ajmitch how goes it? [01:47] good [01:47] was just watching bzr use >600MB of RAM [01:48] grabbing a copy of an svn branch [01:49] must be fun.. [01:49] im just watching liam roll into book cases [01:49] I need some patches from it [01:49] heh [01:49] I'm trying to get too many things done at once and just want to sit and chat [01:50] isnt that how it usually is? [01:51] no [01:51] I'm usually not getting anything done [01:51] yeah we know that :) [01:51] I wish I was half as productive as ajmitch :-) [01:53] 0.5*0 is a great improvement? :) [01:53] zul: enough of your smart remarks, thanks [01:53] no problem === ajmitch needs a faster computer [01:54] but they are so witty [01:54] :P [01:54] LaserJock: that's an interesting euphemism to use :) [01:55] hmm, so we only get 1 PPA per person [01:55] annoying, isn't it? [01:55] well, kinda [01:56] I was thinking of making package for a variety of subjects [01:56] so it doesn't make much sense to dump them in the same repo [01:57] LaserJock: Just make some dummy teams :) [01:58] that's pretty abusive [01:58] I've got entirely too many teams as it is [01:58] creating ones just for packages seems silly [01:58] I'd think it would depend on the packages, really. [01:59] you may want a "bugfix" PPA, a "zomginsane" PPA, etc [01:59] and not having the packages mix [01:59] well, one thing I've always hated about 3rd party packages [02:00] eg having a modified toolchain in one PPA, doesn't mean you need it for all your packages :) [02:00] is if there's a couple apps that I want, but not *all* of them [02:00] apt pinning [02:00] yeah, or you separate repos like a normal person ;-) === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.233.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] yah know how you can walk into a room and hear something totally out of context and decide you'd better just leave again? I just flipped to here, and saw "apt pinning". time to leave again! [02:02] haha [02:03] keescook: surely we're not *that* bad ;) === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-00cb485f37e864c3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] RAOF: Good news and bad news [02:04] RAOF: Good news: nvidia is going to make another driver release soon [02:04] keescook: I was trying to figure out how to use apt-pinning to work with my 0install build of Automatix ;-) [02:04] RAOF: Bad news: I think it'll only work with xserver 1.4 [02:04] heh, nah, I didn't leave again. I just knew something complex was being discussed. :) === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] LaserJock: don't worry, I've used apt pinning to upgrade from debian to ubuntu in the past :) [02:05] yeah, I think that's when I used it last too === ajmitch is out for lunch, back later [02:05] I think I used it once in the like 1 week I had Debian installed [02:05] Amaranth: Well. Bah! [02:05] like to mix stable and testing or something [02:06] LaserJock: like to add testing to your sources.list but pin the stable packages except for a few exceptions? :) [02:07] something like that [02:07] c/c [02:07] ugh [02:07] ahh [02:07] I missed those [02:07] Wow. That has to be the worst ever apport backtrace. 61 functions on the stack, all but 58,59 & 60 are ?? === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === POX_ [i=piotr@89.248.165.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] oh my [02:38] I just got a fwd from a guy at work. somebody was troubleshooting why their linux was getting slow [02:38] and they noticed that X was taking 50% of their RAM!!! [02:38] and they asked what this X command was and why it was run by root [02:40] o_0 [02:44] yeah... [02:45] isn't that the dangerous memory-eating virus? [02:47] Java? [02:47] no, firefox [02:48] 18912 ajmitch 15 0 1511m 870m 13m S 0 22.0 154:25.42 galeon [02:48] what a wonderful gecko :) [02:49] shesh [02:49] yeah, I had a few too many tabs open [02:49] yeah, this ClassmatePC is teaching me a little bit about memory management [02:50] "do I *really* need another tab for that?" [02:50] launchpad.net refused the connection. [02:51] hm, that's a bad thing [02:52] .c [02:52] ugh? [02:52] hah [02:52] LP works for me again (for the moment) [02:53] Poltergeist Punishment Area (PPA) [02:53] :) [02:53] heh [02:55] geser: yeah, it's probably fragile === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] I hope the motu-uvf team won't try to kill me for bug #136259 [03:05] Launchpad bug 136259 in zeroc-ice-ruby "[UVFe] Sync the zeroc-ice packages to 3.2.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136259 [03:08] why would we do that oh i see now === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] geser: just give them a pony & it'll all be fine [03:16] or beer [03:17] mmm, beer [03:17] it's a friday afternoon sure, surely it's beer o'clock [03:17] yuck [03:18] I find beer to be quite disgusting, sorry [03:18] ok applejuice for LaserJock then [03:19] sweet [03:19] LaserJock: even guinness? :) [03:19] I had a buddy switch my apple juice for beer once, yuck [03:19] ajmitch: never had it [03:19] well we're probably talking about american beer here, so I can sympathise with 'yuck' [03:19] I also find wine and champagne yuck [03:20] depends on the wine, I find === RAOF did also, until quite recently. [03:20] yeah [03:20] there was some wine at at UDS [03:20] maybe Paris [03:20] and it was at least tolerable === ajmitch wonders what else he should branch onto the laptop === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] ajmitch: debian's TeX svn? :-) [03:29] no, I'd rather not [03:35] yay, finally got a mail from the guy who did some authtool stuff === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mattva01 [n=matthew@c-69-143-122-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Administrator [n=chatzill@user-12ldksg.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] hi [04:00] Hello [04:00] i need help [04:00] my workspaces wont work or something [04:00] i only have one for some reason [04:00] and not 4 [04:00] any ideas? === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] if you're using gutsy, ask in #ubuntu+1, otherwise #ubuntu [04:01] im using fiesty === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye!"] [04:01] feisty [04:01] then ask in #ubuntu [04:02] im banned from there [04:02] casue i kept asking questions [04:02] heh === javierder [n=javier@201-213-163-2.net.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] well?? [04:03] well, this isn't the place to ask, this channel is for maintenance of packages in universe [04:03] ok well that dont mean you wont know the answer to that question [04:04] no, but it does mean that you shouldn't pick random ubuntu channels to ask in [04:04] if you feel that you should be unbanned from #ubuntu, ask in #ubuntu-ops [04:04] ok [04:06] perhaps set your IRC nick too. :) [04:08] hmm [04:08] joejaxx: don't ghost :P [04:08] :) [04:08] evil sod === Administrator [n=chatzill@user-12ldksg.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Administrator___ [n=chatzill@user-12ldksg.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Administrator___ [n=chatzill@user-12ldksg.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] superm1, hey, you around? === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] for NEW packages, should the maintainer be MOTU, and the person who created the package be an Uploader? [04:34] nixternal: Uploader isn't used by Ubuntu. [04:35] Generally they should be original maintainer. [04:35] OK, so set maintainer to MOTU, and then have them put their info in the XSBC-Original-Maintainer field then [04:36] Yes [04:36] thanks [04:36] No problem. === ajmitch doesn't always follow that rule [04:37] It's not actually required to have the original maintainer. [04:37] More of a guideline than a rule.... === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] hello bddebian [04:49] Heya folks [04:49] Hi ajmitch [04:50] So what's shakin' ? [04:51] bad stuff [04:52] Uh oh, now what? [04:52] at work [04:54] Ah [05:06] Hmm, quiet tonight [05:07] Everyone is tired from arguing about the NEW queue earlier today. [05:07] heh === ajmitch is fighting an out of control server [05:07] Just shoot it, put it out of it's misery :-) === ScottK recommends a flame thrower. It won't fix the server, but it will be lots of fun. [05:07] Heh. === LongPointyStick reads the discussion about the NEW freeze in -devel [05:12] what fun. [05:12] hello LongPointyStick [05:13] hi ajmitch [05:13] wow this is a change [05:14] imbrandon: ? [05:14] dapper livecd on a 500mhz celeron [05:14] heh [05:14] speedy? [05:14] heh you could say that === apachelogger__ [n=me@N793P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch waits patiently for launchpad [05:14] trying to get a bare system togathr for my 6 year old [05:15] i'm thinking this thing needs fluxbox though [05:15] Tim Hull on ubuntu-devel sure has found a lot wrong with ubuntu :P [05:16] ?? [05:16] archive url ? [05:16] i dunno you'd know if you saw his last post hehe [05:18] well his last post elicited a very rude response i kinda feel sorry for the guy but he created a new thread now [05:18] xtknight: yeah, he was sane enough when on irc [05:19] Hmm, I must not get -devel mail anymore [05:23] xtknight: 'very rude' is putting it nicely === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] Actually I do get them. Am I missing something here? What thread? === ytojack [n=ytojack@59.35.222.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] well any from thully@umich.edu but first was "Ubuntu development..." and second was "Non-"critical" bug fixes/new hardware drivers in stable releases?" [05:35] Hmm weird === ScottK just doesn't read stuff like that. [05:37] weird? [05:37] I don't see those [05:37] the non-critical email dident seem rude, i dont agree with it but it dosent seem incoherant or rude [05:38] Anyway, where's UDS info at? [05:38] it was the reply to his first thread that was rude ("RTFM" from somebody in a private email, etc) [05:38] imbrandon: there was a private email that he quoted [05:38] ahh [05:39] basically along the lines of "you suck, RTFM, FOAD" [05:39] actually not quite sure what replies he expects lol [05:40] bddebian: w.u.c/UDSBOSTON or something [05:40] xtknight: probably what he can work on, how to do it [05:41] xtknight: most people who write that sort of mail underestimate how big ubuntu development is [05:41] LongPointyStick, ya true [05:41] it's like fix #1 fix #2 go do it! :P [05:42] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Boston [05:42] LongPointyStick: I believe he's also made some suggestions to debian as well [05:42] heh [05:42] and tha'ts *so* going to work. [05:42] lol [05:42] but it's not nearly as entertaining as the icelinux threads on debian-devel at the moment [05:43] you have to read them to believe it [05:47] Wow, I recognize like 2 names on the Attendees list so far :-) [05:48] not mine! :) [05:49] Yeah, get it on there :) [05:49] Thanks for the ack LongPointyStick! [05:49] why? [05:49] there's no point adding my name if I don't plan to be there [05:49] RAOF: no problem. jus tmake sure it's not crackful [05:49] Plan to be there [05:50] well, more crackful [05:50] LongPointyStick: Not too crackful :) [05:51] bddebian: easier said than done. I presume you'll be paying? [05:52] I would if I could. I'm poorer these days :-( [05:53] Though to be honest I'm not sure why I would even consider going [05:53] to contribute [05:53] To what? I'm just a small patch/cleanup guy [05:53] I'm sure there'll be some spec there that interests you [05:54] you think I have anything to contribute? [05:54] Yes [05:54] funny [05:54] I can't think of anything [05:55] groan [05:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136277 [05:55] Launchpad bug 136277 in ubuntu "will not install" [Undecided,New] === ajmitch lets LongPointyStick reply graciously [05:55] Heh === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] Heya LaserJock === Frogzoo_ [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] hi bddebian [06:14] LaserJock! === astronouth7303 [n=astronou@jebliss.res.wpi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] does uinput work on ubuntu? 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[06:58] how's that? === StevenK does too. [06:59] [14:53] -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Bixente, ytojack, lucas, sacater, giskard, Pici, heyko, ScottK, fernando, evand, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) [06:59] astronouth7303: ^ [06:59] The rejoin isn't as pretty as the split though [06:59] interesting [06:59] well, sometimes is, sometimes isn't [07:00] I had that zelazny disconnected [07:00] and my bro said that it was kubrick === josephdecock [n=jmdc@24-117-105-29.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] astronouth7303: That's a freenode-ism. It will only show the node you're connected to. [07:00] ah [07:01] has anyone else had problems with uinput? === Frogzoo_ [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:02] halp? [07:04] are debdiffs applied with patch like any other diff? 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[08:25] !info libpam-ssh gutsy [08:25] libpam-ssh: enable SSO behavior for ssh and pam. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.91.0-9.1 (gutsy), package size 46 kB, installed size 180 kB [08:26] not quite sure, if i mentioned it already, but someone might want to update it to 1.91.0-9.2 === ThorstenSick [n=modern_r@HSI-KBW-082-212-046-045.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@88.193.25.129] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === norsetto [n=norsetto@host200-213-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] hiya gang [08:46] Hey norsetto [08:46] hi [08:47] hey! where is your old skin!? [08:47] what happened to ossurayyon? [08:47] ossurayynot even [08:47] That was me chilling at school === tonyyarusso has a handful of linked nicks to choose from === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] Good mornig [09:05] I've got some questions about starting to develop for ubuntu [09:06] The silliest one is: where to start. There are to many options (motu, developer mailing list, ...) [09:07] ThorstenSick: what do you want to do? :) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@mst45-2-82-242-83-37.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:08] I've got some ideas how to improve security and sefety by small programs (backup of usb sticks as soon as they are inserted, ...) [09:08] hey === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] ThorstenSick: You can either choose to fix bugs. That is quite easy to start with. [09:11] On the other hand if you have ideas for new features you can file specifications at LP [09:12] Coding is not the problem. I am earning money this way... === asisak would recommend to start with fixing bugs so that you get used to the processes in the community. On the other hand, all of us are going to fix bugs now, since we have release in 1.5 months. === nuu [n=neuro@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:1893] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:14] Hey folks. [09:15] The idea is good. My problems at the moment are: how does the community work (and where to contribute) [09:16] and where to post my ideas === asisak would say start with fixing bugs in a package you know (or want to get to know). === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-15-50.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] ThorstenSick: did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment? [09:20] (It lists some of the entry points) === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:21] Yes, I did read that. Posted an idea on ubuntu-devel (without any reply) [09:22] Now I am trying the more interactive ways of communicating. [09:22] This time people tend to be busy with freezes and bug fixes [09:22] Submitting new ideas likely get more attention at the start of a new release cycle. [09:23] Therefore I suggest bug fixing for now, again :) [09:23] Or you should wait a bit more, till someone else will answer you as well here :) [09:24] I will do that. After holidays [09:24] I am browsing the bugs at the moment === Zenton [n=vicente@212.166.192.134] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:26] You might consider joining a team based on your interests. E.g., if you want to fix Gnome / KDE / XFCE / Mozilla / ... bugs, you can consider joining their channel and ask if they need any help. [09:26] s/consider for the second time// [09:26] And if you want to write code, you can just write programs and we'll help package them :) === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] Thanks. [09:29] when checking for bugs having to be fixed: Is there any way to filter project by programming language (c/c++/python) ? [09:29] Hey RAOF! [09:29] asisak: Hey! [09:30] ThorstenSick: Not as far as I'm aware, although the project page on launchpad may have such information. [09:30] ThorstenSick: I am afraid there is no way. You can select a source package that is however either in C / C++ / ... [09:30] ThorstenSick: What kind of bugs do you want to fix? [09:30] I mean what language do you prefer? [09:31] Any one of these, and perl. At the moment I am improving my python-fu so I would prefer this. [09:32] ThorstenSick: Hm, if you want to improve your python-fu and have some time on your hands, you could hack on some of the Ubuntu tools :) === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] The installer (Ubiquity), Add/Remove, displayconfig-gtk, restricted-manager, etc. === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] These projects sound interesting [09:38] Then go! Teach ubiquity about LVM! :) [09:39] On a more serious note, you probably want to check with the various teams that manage those tools, and see what needs doing. [09:39] :-) The problem is i will be traveling around almost the whole next month (holiday and conferences) so nothing for the next release. Oh and no LVM on my computers :-( [09:40] Heh. === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] ThorstenSick: no problem. You can join & help us whenever you can :) === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] I will. About my ideas: Is the idea-pool wiki the proper place to post them ? [09:48] If I try to upload a (different version) of a package someone else already uploaded to REVU, but with the same name, will that screw things up? [09:50] Anybody in motu-uvf willing to review bug 131325 (2 acks needed) and/or bug 134552 (1 ack needed)? Many thanks in advance. [09:50] Launchpad bug 131325 in conky "Gutsy uses old version of conky." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131325 [09:50] Launchpad bug 134552 in yappy "Please merge yappy (1.8-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134552 === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] What's the fastest I can upload to REVU? It's not giving any feedback and I have no idea how fast its going === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:56] YokoZar_: you can only upload by FTP. Incoming queue is processed every five minutes. [09:57] asisak: I'm using dput, which seems to be doing ftp...but it's been sitting there for about 30 minutes [09:57] YokoZar_: might be that your network connection has been broken [09:57] If it takes a very long time, consider to talk to a REVU admin to nuke your upload and try to re-submit it [09:57] It's also a 16 meg file. If REVU only lets people upload at like 2k, then... [09:58] Oh, then wait... [09:58] I was just wondering if it is 2k [09:58] Check if your network is active [09:58] Because there's also this weirdness about someone else also uploading a wine pakcage === huats_ [n=huats@194.98.120.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] asisak: spamming ifconfig shows very small increases in bytes uploaded... hmm... [09:59] YokoZar_: Have you contacted the previous uploader to revu to ask if they are still interested in pushing the package into Ubuntu? [09:59] TheMuso: I just found it [10:00] ok [10:00] TheMuso: So, no, not yet. I suspect it's just updating the version though, not integrating the other fixes I did [10:00] I'm the maintainer on it, so it seems kinda weird I didn't get contacted. [10:00] right === ajmitch logs into revu & checks the file size [10:02] YokoZar_: are you *sure* you're uploading to revu? I see no files in the ftp queue [10:02] ajmitch: well it was [10:02] Uploading to revu (via ftp to revu.tauware.de): [10:02] wine_0.9.44-0ubuntu1-1.dsc: done. [10:02] wine_0.9.44-0ubuntu1.orig.tar.gz: [10:02] That's what dput tells me [10:03] I've cancelled and restarted that twice now [10:03] hm, when was that? === jono_ [i=jono@nat/canonical/x-733a77781679ca0d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:03] once at about 12:15, and again just now [10:03] Actually that's still up on my terminal [10:03] Hm..... Soyuz seems confused. I just got a binary upload failure, with it complaining that there was a newer binary uploaded already... [10:04] I suspect it's getting confused by Wendell's (identically named) package [10:04] no, it shouldn't. revu is usually used with identically named packages [10:05] Even if not archived? [10:05] If they're uploaded concurrently it will get thoroughly confused, but otherwise it must be fine. [10:05] hmmm [10:05] REVU is useless otherwise/ [10:05] I just figured his was still in incoming [10:06] or wherever unarchived files are stored [10:06] aha, upload queue is moved === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:06] this is nearly impossible, working over dial-up [10:06] ajmitch: should I try dput again? [10:06] -rw-rw---- 1 revu1 revu 16079137 Aug 31 10:33 wine_0.9.44-0ubuntu1.orig.tar.gz [10:07] dput won't work if there are files in the queue [10:07] I can remove these if you want, since cancelling an upload is a really bad thing to do === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] ok === ajmitch removes [10:08] so now I try dput again, and leave it be [10:09] yes please [10:09] ok now it should be uploading the big file [10:09] hopefully you're in the uploaders keyring === ajmitch has to go offline again soon, modems really suck [10:09] ajmitch: it gave good signature [10:10]